Podcast: The Ride - The CityWalk Saga - Sector 13 with Jack Allison

Episode Date: September 26, 2018

Twitter bad boy Jack Allison (Jimmy Kimmel Live!, JackAM) stops by to take us on an old tyme mine cart ride. The CityWalk Saga - Sector 13 consists of: Things From Another World Universal Cinema Simulator Ride (retired) Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/ FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! When your town has let you down When your porch has fallen short When you're too worn out to run And need some ribs or a Cinnabon You need a place, a need a place A place for rock A place for roll

A place where Oakland Raiders Merch is sold A sublime hot topic And billabong A place where you can purchase A candy thong So let's go take a walk Let's all go to CityWalk.

Tonight. Podcast The Ride presents the CityWalk Saga, a daily 19 part, extremely necessary series exploring the stores, restaurants, and wonderful magic that make up universal city walk hollywood podcast the ride city walk saga sector 13 and if you thought that the pace was going to start to pick up at this point and we'll knock out some quick ones you're dead wrong because there is a

lot to this sector and let's let's dive right in i'm scott gardner mike carlson is here yeah i think a lot of the ones that are like coming up too i like we have to do two hours on them so like the notion that we were going to do a lot of mini episodes is bullshit out the door um so uh yeah clear a lot of space and you're fucking in your megabytes jason sheridan's joining us as well yes i would advise people to use uh personal days pay time off to start clearing out some of these uh on their listening cues or just you know maybe less sleep for the uh duration of this just like carve out some time you know uh yeah you you can just sleep from like three to five a.m. And the rest of it should be filled with CityWalk.

So that is if after two weeks, people are still listening. There's a good chance these are just sitting on listen to now and people's podcast app for years for years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've unsubscribed and just sitting there now. And they're like when they're like, why did my phone? My phone is out of space. It's out of storage. And then they like look and they think where you go to five phone storage.

And it's like, why is there five gigabytes of, of podcasts? And then they just delete it. And then that's it. I hope this inspires people to get some bigger phones and that we've been creators of commerce in the world and for, for Apple or whatever phone provider, uh,

and joining us, uh, for the first time, uh, uh, it landing in a big way in the in the city walk saga uh what an honor to start this way uh you you may know him from jimmy kim alive from his podcast struggle session uh or for uh giving no fucks on twitter it's uh it's jack allison uh

well thanks for having me guys and uh you know there's just something kind of freeing, you know, piggyback on what Mike was saying about this episode going on, listen to in people's podcast app. Like there's something just freeing about being on a lost episode and knowing that as it's being recorded, it's a lost episode. We can really say anything here. No one can be mad at you. No one can be mad at me for the stuff I say on this podcast.

I finally feel free to say my opinions. Unlike the pressure of a regular podcast, which is guaranteed to be listened to by millions upon millions of people. You guys have gone to the effort here of winnowing away all the listeners so that we can finally say the things we really want to say about city walk uh-huh yes as long as as long as that's the case you know this is you're a uh you're a politically active person and your podcast is uh is very political i don't um i'm trying to think how this overlays onto city walk it's not a proper uh you know governed body yeah uh necessarily and maybe the question is maybe it should be better that way or oh yeah that's the yeah should it be more uh more regulated should there be regular elections walk is obviously a

classic example of a corpocracy you know what i mean this is what happens when the fat cats at the top make all the decisions and the little people the activists the voters you got to get out there and vote november you have to vote you must vote get out there and vote everybody get out there raise your voice and get out there and vote um without a voice you know city walk has just ran roughshod over you know i mean you have to get a permit to do uh like a dance number there you know what i mean and twirl around with some uh with some chains and necklaces you know the kind of street performance i think we're seeing an unfettered corpocracy and i and i think section 13 actually is a good example of uh some of the gentrification

we see happening at city walk for the worse for the worse i do there is a story that i'll that i'll bring up uh where city walk and and the movie theater actually do intersect with legitimate L.A. politics. We can get into that. There's been some, I don't know if you guys know all this, like acts of violence have taken place at that theater. There's a lot there. But before we get into that, we should find out what it is we're talking about at all. And so we turn to the sector keeper. Boys, boys, and Jack, today's sector is sector 13.

Things from another world. Universal cinema. Five towers outdoor stage in the former simulator ride. Good luck, boys. So we're talking things from currently things from another world, the universal cinema and but before that uh but i think in i think in the around the things from another world space the simulator ride yeah that was up there probably until the mid-2000s i couldn't tell you exactly should we start with that one? Should we start with the past?

And GameStop. Right? It became a GameStop afterwards? Oh, good point. I missed that entirely. Okay. We got a couple, yeah. You know your history, kid. And Jack, just to get you at speed, our listeners have heard this every day for many days.

The Sector Keeper is simultaneously a child who died of a staff infection uh in the dancing fountains he's the ghost of that child but he's also an endless being for sure yeah timeless being who represents the spirit of city walk i you know i i'm well aware of the sector keeper and i have been aware you know i've gone to city walk for my entire life so you know i've heard the lore of the sector keeper actually i think for the first time from a grizzled waiter at the Gladstones when I was but a boy. So I'm well aware of the Sector Keeper and the lore surrounding it. It's good of him to start getting the word out and to even tell such a tragic tale to a child. But you're never too young to find out.

I never stepped into those fountains again because of the tragic tale of the sector keeper that's smart good thing you got every time i go up there to city walk now i start yelling at all the kids like get out of there get out of there you don't know what might happen but uh it hasn't gone it's been fine no one's yeah they they still play but people are happy that you're yelling at their kids for safety they think i'm a street performer yeah sure yeah you got a permit to do it um yeah that's right so you're you're a valley native so you've gone to city walk forever sure um uh any before we get specific any uh any particular uh cherished city walk memories well you know when i was in a middle school i lived in uh sherman oaks there and so you know you we had the rapid bus that

would basically just you know five stops or so like directly from uh you know right where i lived at like ventura and woodman you know you could for just a few dollars get on the rapid bus and it would let out right at the bottom of city walk it would let it let out right there and you can take the tram up and so what i would do uh uh during that time is like for a while one of us had a season pass and it was like before the way the season passes are now so we would like try to like sneak that one in and out and whatever oh you could trade it you didn't like have somebody like sneak it out in a pocket or something like that i'm remembering correctly okay but then the scam i really started to run was that you could like just put highlighter on your hand and smear it really bad and then say

you went in the water fountain and like get yourself wet and you'd be like it got smeared and they would just like let you in because that was a theme park trope for years is that you you would get your hand stamps when you were leaving and that was the only thing and that was the only thing now they check the ticket again they check everything again you still get your hand stamp but it's perfunctory i don't know why you still get your hand stamp, to be honest with you. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. There's no reason because you have to show the ticket again. But yeah, so the thing back then was to just do highlighter in the hand,

smear it up, or if you could get one person in, like I would say that I lost my hat on the Jurassic Park ride, and then they would walk you into Lost and Found, and then stop paying attention to you. So then you could just go walk out through the line get your hand stamped and if you really quick like put the hand stamp on someone else's hand then they would also have the stamp and so you could just keep running that over and over you press back of hands yeah so if it's fresh you just go bam and then you both walk in we so on the podcast we all are very good boys, especially when we were children.

What was the age when you started feeling comfortable lying to strangers? I don't know that there's a time in my life I didn't feel comfortable lying to strangers. I don't know. Another one, and this one is not that nice. I don't say that anybody should do this or whatever, but you could ostensibly get a front of the line. If you just, they rented wheelchairs for like $14 at universal. And so if you just rented a wheelchair, you would get to go to the front of the line for every single ride, like your whole party.

This was before the fast pass and everything like that. And the extra cool part about that was that you don't have to go down the escalators. They have like a secret like monorail thing and it takes you down like you take an elevator and then you take a little private monorail to the bottom and uh you know so so we did that as well and you know i you know i don't think we took away any opportunities from people with actual disabilities uh from getting to the front of the line uh there was a much more grander garish version of that where people would you know run group tour groups with like

uh handicapped or mentally disabled people essentially like rich people would rent them for the day how nice and go through yeah so yeah oh that's right yeah in florida it was a big scandal i think it was as easy as for us we were just like he like sprained his ankle and like i don't know save your money you don't have to rent a disabled person to get to the phone lines like now we're taking work away from that is true also this whole impersonating uh disabled people uh for pretending you're in a wheelchair this is all something sasha baron cohen would do yeah yeah and i think that that's a little bit unpalatable to be honest with you like i think in this era it's not really the time to be doing comedy like that so you know i think that you know we should right to be upset

and to not allow it we should stand strong against sasha baron cohen here and say that what he did was mean and i don't condone any kind of meanness in comedy ever but again but luckily his new uh series and probably a little old by the time people hear this that is is on showtime which like these episodes it makes all his entire show a lost show so if you're worried about being offended by it you won't see it seen it i thought that the announcement said uh on bit torrent when they were any show you see announced yes the secret text we're gonna be launching on uh uh show time and all right well let's let's get into the as i I said, let's go into the past here of this sector. So, when did this open?

I want to say early 90s. We were saying right before we started recording, it was very difficult to even find the name of the simulator attraction that used to be up there. It's where the comic book store is now i i uh looked a little but like i yeah i didn't know that i didn't really know how to start searching for it and it seemed like you you already had so much on the simulator scott or like it seemed like you already knew it sounds like you quit when scott said he had a lot of stuff I wasn't sure how much it was going to be, so I spent more time writing about other stuff. It's not necessarily a ton, but I found a little more than I thought.

The name of this thing evidently was Show Scan Presents Cinemania. One of these catchy theme park names. We all know Show Scan. A company that's famously still around today. Of course, yeah. Also, Show show scan as far as i knew was a process and not necessarily a company but i guess it was a company it's like tivo you know it became so synonymous with the technology sure the technology being uh moving chairs unviewed ride films so this

company started in the early 80s and if you ever went on a simulator ride that was not in a Disney or Universal park it was probably show scan I remember doing these freestanding rides in like the Luxor

or the Excalibur in Vegas they were all over the placealibur in Vegas. They were, they were all over the place, but here's the, here's what blew my mind today that this technology was developed by the way, by Doug Trumbull, eventual director of the back to the future ride. And the whole thing with show scan is it's 60 frames a second,

which lets you do more realistic and less filmy movement. And it's bigger at 70 millimeter bigger than other movies are. And they were looking for a place to start exhibiting this technology. And I found a big article from 1984 that claims that show scan, if a couple early tests get off the ground, that it will start being displayed in showbiz pizza palaces. Oh, wow.

Our nation. And it didn't really work out i think they tried it in dallas and they tried it in fairfax virginia where there still is a chucky cheese it having at some point been switched from showbiz pizza palace um and i read about the movie that they showed there which now i think it's i think it was called new magic i didn't write the title down because it's hard to remember uh that was a sudden register with me that was the thing they showed in the chucky cheese this was a movie shown exclusively at not chucky cheese but showbiz pizza right and the story of this movie of new magic is that you're watching very simple you're you're in the back of a showbiz pizza watching a

70 millimeter film about fireworks and then the projector breaks and the projectionist comes on to the screen and apologizes and says really sorry um what else can i do while i have it here it's going to take forever to fix the film well i could show you this new technology that my boss a sorcerer is working on and the sorcerer is played by christopher lee christopher lee is in a thing that only played at a showbiz pizza in fairfax virginia and i didn't read the plot of it too carefully but like this guy ends up the projectionist it's it's similar to mickey and the sorcerer's apprentice the right the sorcerer is furious that he would dare try out this magic sure without explicit permission i mean that's in the public domain angry sorcerer

that's like a go-to it's it's a it's a big tv tropes area if you go to that site um among the things that happens is that the god the sorcerer makes the the projectionist go into a guillotine and the guillotine doesn't cut his head off but it does it put his head on the body of a spider which is there's a still of this on a website i found it's very disturbing and then the sorcerer in the final indignity, turns him into Billy Bob, the mascot of Showbiz Pizza. From the Rock and Fire Explosion. Yes. Wow.

And then it ends with the sorcerer saying, go get out there and entertain the kids. So then when you leave the movie, if you see Billy Bob walking around, you know that he is a punished projectionist. Oh, my God. Wow. All new info to me this morning. And you know there's one thing children love. It's body horror. Cronenberg. It's body horror.

The kids would be like mommy rescue him. He's a slave mommy. Let me ask you guys because I remember these existing but I never did them. Did your Dave and Buster's growing up, were there simulator theaters in your Dave and Buster's? Because there was in the Philadelphia one. Growing up?

When you say growing up, I was not privileged. I did not have a Dave and Buster's growing up. Really? Nor did we. They are new arrivals in Los Angeles. I was at one the other night at hollywood and highland and those have not uh yeah that's that's the last couple years we had a place called game works i got when i was 16 which is very similar to it but no dave and busters until many years

later what about uh funscape because that leaves larger my mind did no i don't know what is funscape was like a um funscape was like a family kind of version of dave and busters it is a it was a massive facility uh in wilmington delaware it was like three stories tall uh mini golf a 18th screen movie theater wow laser tag virtual reality a simulator star tours kind of simulator thing uh where you're in a car as opposed to a theater yeah where you're in a car um i only ever remember i think we did the mini golf once uh the movie theater was like the first regal movie theater in the philadelphia area and was notable for like being the first movie theater where my family was like oh wow this is full back seats.

Like a thing that is now ubiquitous now. Really? It used to be like really. How did they have seats before? It just like kind of like halfway. Up your back. It was mostly like kind of like dumpier AMCs where we were. And this was like the first theater with like stadium kind of seat, tiered seating.

Maybe I just don't remember that seats used to be like that yeah i guess i remember when we had like amc in schaumburg went to like stadium seating right i remember that it was like it was a summer of stadium seating everyone was obsessed more to do with the the height of the you know the rows not being you know on one level that's what i thought stadium seating had more to do with the chair you know stadiums don't have you're right you're stadium seating had more to do with. Rather than the back of the chair. Because stadiums don't have high-end chairs. No, you're right. You're right. It has more to do with it. It's not all just a flat space.

It's like a stadium. Like how the Vista is just a big, flat, you know, not stadium-style seating. And in fact, that theater is trash because it's not stadium-style. Stadium-ify yourself. Stadium or nothing. I hated it when it first started because I did not have a growth spurt yet. I mean, I had one growth spurt and kind of tapped out there. Right.

But it was hard for me to see over these high-back chairs until a certain point. Well, that's why you got to have the stadium seating, actually. I remember being actually very happy about stadium seating as a similarly short man because it did help a lot, actually. It used to be a problem with people being too tall in front of me in movies. So Funscape went under. It lasted a few years, but the movie theater is still open

and going strong, but it was on the third floor. So for a few years, you used to have to walk through an abandoned arcade walk through an abandoned arcade like an abandoned minigolf at a bit like a haunted house essentially you had to walk through the creepiest thing and then they reopened some of the arcade and then they just massively just redid it so that the lobby was on the other side of the building and then they turned a lot of it

into office space. And you still had to go up a bunch of escalators to get to the screening, you know, to get to the theaters. But it was like, yeah, it was a big thing. It was like the era of laser tag was everywhere.

There was like a, a wonderful time down the street. Yeah. A wonderful time. That laser tag also too, I remember was just uh people sat in uh chairs it was split in half and there were chair and you were like sitting in chairs zapping at targets and each other seated laser tag it's the only time i had ever seen it the

lazy man's laser laser tag we're really committed to the no running i did the the vr once and i they're like right as they put the helmet on they're like oh you got to take your glasses off and i'm like oh no and i so i was just a blurry laser like starfox original starfox quality graphics laser tag or not a vr vr this is okay so we'll do the funscape episode we'll do the schomburg mall episode yeah yeah yeah we gotta we have to start saving our our if we start talking about other other malls and arcades yeah uh we'll never get through 19 you guys do a whole a whole month on that mall the schomburg mall that's where it's heading we're like that's i think it's we're building it up into an event i'm excited it's like the mcdonald's for no boys we're gonna wear tuxedos when we do

the podcast in tuxedos no one will see it but okay so this so the simulator ride you did this at some point yeah i did the simulator ride a couple times i remember that it was a devil's mine ride and i also remember that it was you know sort of one of these things that is such a city walk classic uh something that it you know is fun to do but not that fun that is just obscenely overpriced and will make your parents mad that you want to do like these rides were like at most like i want to say like 10 minutes long like they were not these are not long rides and i think they cost like 15 or something like that so this is like it's like 2018 movie prices for like a you know uh i think it's over in seven minutes and was there any i heard five read five minutes was how long. Okay. I was trying to be generous. Yeah.

I don't want to slow us down here, but I did. I found the Devil's Mine Ride on YouTube. Would you guys like to pause very briefly, go on the Devil's Mine together, and then pick it back up? Yeah. Absolutely. This used to cost $15. You can do this for free now?

Now we're doing it in our apartment during a Podcast Lost episode. We'll take a quick break and be right back with our thoughts on Devil's Mine Ride. And we're back. We've just survived the Devil's Mine Ride. And actually, if you want to pause it here and go on it yourself, just go to YouTube and search Devil's Mine Ride 1991, and you can know what we're talking about. But in case you don't feel like stopping,

do you want to describe what we just uh experienced um it was an experience that is the best way to uh so a grizzled old prospector says you you're in a mine cart right and you get to the point where you would start the tour and he says they fixed it fixed real nice for you. We fixed you're here to tour the mine. We fixed it up real nice for you. It's gonna be real smooth and fun. The old prospector I'm looking at is IMDB right now.

His name is Paul Harper and he apparently plays a lot of old prospector types. Is he still with us? This doesn't say but he's been in things like ghost rock which is a cowboy thing sure wild side which is a cowboy thing the blue and the gray which appears to be a civil war thing you know he's a guy who he's a type is what i'm trying to say character actor like royal dano who often played lincoln as well as in the theme park world um so you're a wild bunch oh wow hey that's a legit nine how about that um so paul harper the old prospector

uh is about to usher you into a nice mine ride seems like it's going to be a very calm and sort of normal mine ride at this point tour of a historic mine and you can see the facilities and how uh mining is done but he has no name he uh no no name he's not introduced it's unclear how you got the tickets for this not from him i don't think um and what you're doing like if where are you some kind of mine inspector why are you just sitting you know in a mine cart already when you're just arriving before introducing yourself or meeting anybody at the you know the in a mine cart already when you're just arriving. Before introducing yourself or meeting anybody at the, you know, the actual mining facility, you just took the liberty to jump right into a mine cart

and start rolling on down the rail there. Yeah, which it kind of serves you right to end up going on a madcap adventure because, like, this is in your mind. You have no right to. Typically, you want to have them choose. I mean, I don't want to spoil what comes next, but typically you would have, you know, the mine operator, I would say, choose the typically you want to have them choose i mean i don't want to spoil what comes next but typically you would have you know the mine operator i would say choose the path you want to go before you decide to step on into the mine cart there but that's not what happens here yeah yeah you might you might have made a presumption that there was only one mine car

path when in fact there is a second and it is quote my kind of mine which is to say harper's poorly built and with giant gaps and uh probably more bats than the other i don't know how much nicer was that other mine gonna be well i don't even want to say that it's poorly built necessarily it's just built to be an exciting roller coaster it's a madcap adventure really i mean well it's really i mean it's didn't to put it in our terms it's jason's kind of mine not scott's kind of mine right me liking very mild thrills exactly so jason's and probably you're not alarmed getting in this mine i just seems like the normal type of thrilling mine ride i usually take on vacations the other mind might have been like a dark mine ride where

you just see like animatronic miners mining at like the walls this was more a cg you know what it reminded me of uh uh it reminded me of like the graphics in uh if you know the twitter account the share zone sure yeah it's like the share zone uh which is a lot of cgi skeletons yeah uh the uh what the graphics of so yeah so when you go on the mine uh from my uh just you know the naked eye i think that's all cgi i don't think there's any practical effects being displayed uh it reminds me of superman 64 with all the sure the fog that's going on because they didn't want to have to render backgrounds all right so it's like a very fog full the draw distance you can't get that much right it's a real foggy mine is what i'm trying to say which actually sort of heightens the danger of it i mean

you're careening around on this roller coaster that's built been built inside of a mine you can't even see a few feet ahead of you uh because of you know technological limitations but also because of art direction there's not even music to remind you of the uh upstairs world the world outside of this mind well that would break from the reality of it that would that would uh it's it's really just it's nothing but mezzzzanine once you get into the actual mind. They made this with very specific filmmaking rules, and it wouldn't be Prospector Paul's kind of mind if it had music. An odd thing also is that I found another video of a Devil's Mind Ride, and it's the

same intro and outro, which is live action with the old Prospector, but the middle is a different mine ride with updated cgi which i found worse i thought the 2000 cgi was kind of showier and stupider than 1991 as we in keeping with the general feeling of we've made great advancements but then a 2000 movie is unwatchable whereas jur Jurassic Park still really holds up. Kind of like Fantasia 2000, you know? Oh, yeah. The original Devil's Mine Ride is just timeless, and Devil's Mine Ride 2000, you know,

it went a little too far with the technology. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I can't remember offhand who introduces all the segments in Fantasia 2000, but why do I want to say one of them has been me too'd? That might be a false accusation. We have to check that. I think just statistically that's a good bet.

Any film with multiple celebrities. Is it John Lasseter, perhaps? I don't think he does an introduction, but maybe I'm thinking that because... I could see Matt Lauer doing an introduction to Fantasia 2000. Is it Morgan Freeman? He could be in there. I don't know.

James Toback? Charlie Rose? James Toback? Disney legend, James Toback. A very young T.J. Miller. He's a curlman. I think he's fine. Yeah, he's fine.

Who was in Fantasia 2000? Steve Martin, James Levine, Bette Midler, James Earl Jones, etoc perlman i i think he's fine yeah he's fine this is a pretty uh uh steve martin james levine bett midler james errol jones etoc perlman angela lansbury quincy jones teller pen and teller okay james levine isn't one of the conductors who's run afoul of the law he's not one of the bad conductors the new conductors bad boy club yes few bad conductors. I think that's what they're used to. The new conductor's bad boy club. Is he okay? I don't know. He seems okay. I shouldn't be besmirching James Levine without proof. I don't want to start getting that

out there. This is turning into a witch hunt. You're just trying to find phantoms where they aren't there in Fantasia 2000's IMDb. Oh, nope. On December 2nd, 2017, the New York Times published a front page story containing detailed accounts of four men

in their 40s and 60s alleging long-term sexual abuse of them by Levine. Levine! I thought so! Scott Gairdner for the win. All right, I did it. Right when you called it a witch hunt and I was starting to get red in

the face i'm so sorry yeah i should know better than you know let me just show that picture i showed you again and how would this man be ever be accused of anything he looks like the old prospector he does this man is one of the scariest looking man i've ever seen yeah conductors you don't want to conduct by looking at him um so anyway what is going on with conductors that took as many twists and turns as the devil's mind right did you you didn't go on any other uh of the show scan you know i i do remember going on another one and i don't remember what it was i did want to say you know i mentioned very astutely during the when we were watching devil's mind ride and i think it was a smart thing that i want to mention now on the podcast proper uh that you know the devil's mine ride kind of has in it

a lot of the dna that you now see in a lot of these other rides where you're watching a movie and sitting in a chair universal screen rights despicable me simpsons yeah absolutely you have the track ending and the the car you know falling and landing on another track later which you see in the simpsons and also in um minion minion mayhem minion even you just did kung fu panda and there's all the same stupid tricks they've been doing since 1991 yeah so i mean in a lot of ways, like, yeah, like the Devil's Mine ride was, you know, an innovator. The Velvet Underground

of roller coasters. It's both of a nation of roller coasters. Perfect. Everyone, the Devil's Mine ride was not a big hit, but everyone who rode it,

they started a ride. I don't remember what other ride I went on there but it was some i went on some ride i feel like it was like tron ish or something and afterwards me and my friend got interviewed by like a film crew because they were trying to like get like um you know uh testimonials about how it was good and And I remember just stupidly being like, I didn't think it was very good. And they got rid of me right away. And my friend who was a kid actor was very emotive.

He was like, whoa, it was cool. Swoosh, swoosh, and all this stuff. See, Jack? They didn't even have me sign a release. They did not even go through the perfunctory. They had him sign and all this shit. Even back then, you were a provocateur. I was.

And your buddy knew how to play the game. I know. I know. What a fool. You couldn't do it. You couldn't bring yourself to do it. That friend is Colin Trevorrow. Did you ever think about a way, did you ever get to write it for free by like sneaking

on or lying to the- I never, you know, it was locked down. The scene sense, what was it called again the cinema cinema sense no no that's a different center family right show scene cinemania i think it was pretty locked down there i mean that's like uh i mean i was able to sneak into the movie theater, which we'll talk about shortly. That's a pretty easy one to get into. But never, never, never, never the movie. It is wild to me that they built a simulator ride next to a theme park. I know this isn't the first time I've heard of that happening.

Yeah. I mean, I guess Star Wars The Void is built next to a theme park, but that is a very different experience. But at the time, when it opened, no simulators in Universal Studios. I guess that's true. Universal, that's all it is. It's a pilot program. And really, it takes kind of the same place as, I would say that the skydiving thing, the iFly thing now takes,

which is like stupid, really expensive shit that kids are going to beg to do and then the parents have to do it. You know what I mean? It's actually even in Sector 13, just as the iFly is now. So maybe there's something psychologically about that area that puts it in a good spot for that kind of thing. iFly is now. So maybe there's something psychologically about that area that, you know, puts it in a good spot for that kind of thing. It's on the way out the door. You might

be heading to the parking garage and it's like one last thing to suck your money up on the way out. Just like Margaritaville, the final stop for the Raiders store. The Raiders store is really the final stop. I never got a souvenir. Alright, looks like you're getting a Raiders t-shirt.

Well, you want to move into the movie theater? Or up to you. You guys freestyle it. The sector keeper isn't here. He doesn't have us by the balls right now, so we can go whichever way we want. Movie theater, comic store, what's there? This is a path like the old prospector presents.

I would go, let's talk about Things from Another World. Sure, yeah. I have some background on Things from Another World. This is a, it's a comic store chain out of Portland, Oregon, much like Voodoo Donuts came out of Portland. Founded by Mike Richardson,

who would go on to found Dark Horse Comics. Oh, I didn't know that. The longtime, before Marvel, the longtime home of the Star Wars comics and Aliens and Predators comics and a bunch of original work. Things from Another World, currently the third largest comic chain in the country. I think Mile High Comics is number one, and I would guess Midtown Comics might be number two. It's also, by the way, not that hard to be

on the top five comic retailer list in America. Yeah, I mean, if you're still hanging on to the 90s. I think number three and four only have one shop. So this used to be down by where the studio store is now. It is now, the studio store expanded into the original things from another world space. But like. The spaceship bursting out of it. Yeah, with the spaceship bursting out.

But I think it was a cordial agreement. They're like, well, we want to expand the studio store. We can move you down to a bigger space sort of thing so uh they moved down a couple years ago the rarely achieved city walk move pulled off by tony romas um by things from another world is there another one uh have we have we found well in florida the hard rock the original hard rock moved oh that's right it was kind of in the park by the psycho house and now it's the that glorious coliseum through the kid zone to get to either the hard rock cafe or the psycho house that's right that's right so um well it's so good on you

things from another world you did it uh things from another world the original one i honestly think had more actual comics than the current one it is for sure it had a much bigger like stock of comics the current one is kind of uh suffers from what i'll call barnes and nobles syndrome where it's like it's just for a bookstore but we're we have a lot of statues and funko pops right there's a toy store it's a toy store and a few you know walls of comics a few racks of yeah it does does the uh current things from another world even have like weekly comics are they releasing they're in the back it's like on the back wall yeah but like it's just like it's like a whole list there or i i like the old things from another world to be

honest with you and i think that that little corner of universal was actually kind of universal city walk you know um not to be like a city walk hater but that kind of corner over there like was one of the spots that had some kind of like unique flair to it it felt like to me like but like between ruben's red hots and uh was that there ruben's red hots was right next to what things from another world rubens i think is still there right the little hot dog place i think it'd be sorry no no i'm sorry then it was jody maroney's the entire time but now it's ludo is it ludo now okay so like i remember jody maroney's and uh uh and and things from another world kind of being the spot like that was the thing to do is you would go over to Universal CityWalk. The rest, that's just corporate trash. That's all for the tourists. The real CityWalk heads know that you go into the crowded, the very, you know, small

corridor things from another world, which I'm not. It was horrendous in there. Like, it was bad. It was like too crowded in there. They had to squeeze too much stuff in there. But like, that was like how a in there but like that was like how a comic shop is it was like how comic shops are like it was actually kind of weird that there was a like kind semi you know like i'm not gonna say like fully as good as other comic shops but like

a 70 80 comic shop was like in universal city walk yeah because that's the recurring thing is how few of these stores have anything you would actually need sure day to day it is not a shopping center with functional items uh and they did and i believe i think the upstart crow used to be a better bookstore a more legitimate bookstore oh yeah so it's like slowly peeled away from having uh anything yeah this has to do with the gentrification of uh the universalalk. We're losing the local flair up there. I feel like now the new things from Mother World just has

it's all Iron Man, it's all Game of Thrones. It's a lot of Alden Han Solo. It's a lot of Alden Han Solo. My Han Solo. The big forehead Han Solo. The Han Solo. I have a really good feeling that we're going to find a lot of my toys in six months at this comic store. It's going to be like in Vegas, like how they have the E.T. graveyard for the E.T. video game.

They're going to have to bury like a million alden hand solo uh uh action figures in vegas i mean i just think the funko pop invasion of city walk like you know how some some stores in la now you see a little sign that says like we take bitcoin in city walk soon you will be able to pay with funko pops are the only uh alden hand solo toy that's getting the forehead correct to be honest well you know, you know where would be the perfect place to bury all the Alden toys? Where's that? In the old mine. They could just add it digitally

to a new special edition. A big pile of Aldens as you're careening through this mine. Yeah, once the mine went under, we turned it into a public storage rental. You used to be, like in the old store, though, you used to be able to, they would have like, what I like about old comic stores, you would have like a 1991 Star Trek The Next Generation toys just sitting on the shelf. Because they've been there since that time. They've been there that long.

It's like Troy's mother toy. No one bought it at the time, but I like going to see Troy's mother toy. No one bought it at the time, but I like the dedication of comic shops that are like, this is never going down until somebody buys it. This Watto toy from 1999. We will not sacrifice shelf space until somebody takes that away. And honestly, at this point, somebody would buy the Watto toy. This fat bastard. Todd McFarlane. Toddto toy. This fat bastard.

Todd McFarlane. Todd McFarlane fat bastard. I have those. I don't have fat bastard, though, but I have the others. The other things from Another World in Portland are more traditional, you know, comic stores with pull lists and subscriptions and all that. It's like it felt like, things from Another World felt like it was a real comic shop. And now it feels kind of similarly to how other stuff in city walk feels like where it's like the dubai version of it like everything is at city walk because like the flight they just have

to have the name of it up there or whatever like it feels like it's things from another world in the sense that like they bought a sign that says things from another world i'm repeating material here but i i went up with a friend of mine who's a law professor and an intellectual and his he proposed the theory that like sephora i bet this sephora does not do the business that a typical one does but it's about people pass by the word sephora on the way to universal studios visiting los angeles and they're maybe from out of the country and they they're like, oh, this is like, it's Epcot is actually what it is. City Walk is Epcot. It's meant to represent what America is to visiting foreigners.

And you're on vacation. You might be a little more willing to part with a little treat for yourself. Yeah, absolutely. There's expensive sunglasses there and stuff. It's like, oh, I want to go. I'll get like the john varvado sunglasses while i'm in america like you know what a little bit of fun for me i'm like a real celebrity but the oh the difference though is with epcot though in those stores it's not been

just rooted out all like the like it's not just in the japanese pavilion like right it's just not funko pops of like japanese disney characters epcot is a less accurate representation of america i mean epcot is like this planned economy kind of like disney thing like it's like they're trying to keep like the purity of epcot as being a representative of america but that's not that's not really what america is like universal represents it better where it's like what like you know what what america is is like capital taking over and so like that's universal like who has the most money like has representation at universal city walk and you know it's not like you go to epcot i've never been to epcot but i assume it's like

you know farmers milking cows and shit i don't know what is that it's a world recreation there's some america and you get an american there's this thing i'm sure it's like a guy like doing steel or some shit or something and yeah it's not true that in the robot show you see like steel workers what america is is a service economy you're getting a better sense walking through universal city walk of what the whole of america is like it's like people working at sephora's is what it is i mean we i think we had talked before about how it's you can see in city walk tastes changing from like oh the candy store went away and now it's cupcakes and now it's frozen yogurt and now it's fancy donuts and crepes will always be there crepes will never ever

crepes will never subside yeah we all know the place that crepes hold in america at large and it's never going away i think that's probably just because of like the high number of european tourists that are walking through there and like that's the option like how when you're in japan there's a mcdonald's or something like that like that's the option of like oh let's not go crazy like and go to hard rock cafe let's just get a crepe right now or whatever crepes and belgian fries that's the other thing in the crepe place. There's fries with a lot of dipping sauce options. Yeah, with the mayonnaise and shit. Yeah.

Oh, and styrofoam plates. I know I talked about that on that sector. You are served a crepe, not traditionally easy to cut. I mean, you can cut it, but it's very thin and kind of spongy. And then if you cut too hard, you are cutting directly into styrofoam. Yeah. Nice bit of styrofoam yeah nice table yeah yeah uh is there

more in the comic book store because i could i have a decent i just think it was when i was first coming to la for like internships and stuff in school i remember looking up because i lived down the road at the oak woods and i was looking up what comic stores are close you're a child actor right i was a child actor uh i was in um uh uh i was in the

space show no i can't even remember space cases space cases yeah um uh uh driving that little robot trash can suit yeah that's right the suit uh and i remember going like wow there's a comic store right there's two like right down the road and one of which was house of secrets uh which i ended up going to and still go to a lot which is probably like the sixth biggest comic store in the world just because it's always busy it's because it exists but i remember going oh there's one in another direction too and then i like zoomed in on the map and i'm like it's in the middle of city walk like because i had only known the orlando city walk uh and sure enough i was like oh yeah this is a place but i am wondering

i'm wondering is there anyone who goes every wednesday like that is or was like well that's my shop i go every wednesday i guess if you work at universal i theorize people that work on the lot i theorize that perhaps now not maybe now maybe now that it's a new one but if there was anyone going every wednesday i bet it's like people that are working on the lot every day and walk over there so universal president ron meyer looking for new comic properties to adoption strolls up the hill each week. When they made the Night Thrasher, do you guys know about this?

I feel like I found out about this at an old job. There was a Night Thrasher pilot with Terrence Howard. Wow. A long time ago. I don't know if it ever got made, but there was news stories about it in the trades. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Weird. That's too bad it didn't happen. I know. Well, fingers crossed. it ever got made but there was like news stories about it in the trades jesus christ yeah weird that's too bad it didn't happen i know well we fingers crossed it probably will happen though

yeah well if you make it to the end of the the you know the the great procedure of trying to get things made in hollywood then you're the the the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow potentially is having your work displayed at the Universal Cinemas Theater. Sure. And this is a place that has been home to many, many premieres over the years. And there's a ton to talk about with this theater, but that seemed like a very unique aspect to me. And here's what I did with my limited time on the earth i went on getty editorial images and i found photos of all the premieres that ever took place at the universal uh the universal studios cineplex odeon now the cineplex odeon predates city walk it was there before city

walk was built i think we talked about many days ago so city was all just orange groves there was no yeah there you had to like make it through a forest back in the day you used either by tropicana florida's best or universal brand orange juice made in hollywood and avoid a lot of b's on the way into the theater but if you made it a great film was your reward um so i found photo this going through photo after photo i'm gonna have to post like an imgur is that the name yeah oh yeah i will post a gallery of all of the stolen watermarks editorial Getty editorial images I found

because the... You should pay the license. Come on. Okay, yeah, you're right. Alright, so $500 each. Hey, support artists. Support Getty images, please. Even though he didn't want to get his grandson back, we need to support the Getty's. Oh, is that that Getty?

Yeah, it's the same as all the other ones. I never thought about that. All these great old newspaper Getty? Is Getty Images? That's a family. I never thought about that. All these great old newspaper, the Gettys, the Hursts, are good friends. A lot of fun. A lot of fun. I love that they're all still around. It's just fun that we still get them around all the time.

They're still affecting our day-to-day. It's cool. American royalty. People say the Kennedys. I think it's the weird old newspaper berries. The Gettys, the DuPonts, the Hearst. Whose descendants all have a very specific breed.

There are Habsburgs. Well, okay, so when I buy the licenses in perpetuity to all these photographs, which at about $500 each, you'll see a gallery that's about $8,000 total out of Scott Gardner's

pocket. Get a Lexus Nexus logit. You know what I think? You guys should do an Indiegogo to raise the money for buying the pictures. So if everybody out there just pitches in a little bit, you guys could raise the $8,000 to finally post these pictures. You're right. Okay, so go to

Indiegogo.com slash Odeon Memories so we can do this all on the up and up. So look on Twitter and we'll have posted this once the goal's been reached. Okay, let me just list some of the movie premieres that happened up there. Some of the finest films of the 90s and 2000s. We're talking The Quest, The Frighteners dudley do right with brendan fraser ed primary colors live action flipper the battle of shaker heights oh project green light season

two cop and a half uh we're talking we're back a dinosaur story uh we're talking mo better blues was peter frampton at the premiere of mo better blues you better believe it ninja turtles three well two and three but three had the added attraction of george went in a t-shirt and gym shorts just dressed like like he's sitting on the couch. So that'll be in the gallery. The premiere of The Lost World was up there. Was Billy Idol at the premiere in an Arizona Diamondbacks

XXL t-shirt and sweatpants? No way. There's no way. Hate to tell you guys. You're all struck out. What? Like the Diamondbacks never would. And finally the premiere of uh i know this is an important film to all of us cull the conqueror uh with kevin sorbo oh sure yeah of course and uh foundational yeah uh yeah one of the big properties of our time of course you'll be happy to know gene simmons was at the premiere and yes

of course kevin sorbo rode into the premiere on a horse through city walk so if you want to see some of these photos as well as some of the craziest fashions you've ever seen the entire band dishwalla at the premiere of american pie wearing like mesh t-shirts nipple exposing mesh t-shirts it's a hell of a gallery so please donate today um but you know this but the cineplex is a place of the the people it's not just for big old movie stars and dupponts they even give you the money back you know for the parking there they're the most generous vendor in all of city walk they give you they hand you a like a bill right give you like five bucks they changed it if you they're trying to change it because they're like oh did you buy when we

went up last time to go see a movie they were like did you did you buy the tickets on like movie, whatever, tickets.com? Or I was like, no, I bought them on Fandango. And they go, oh, nevermind. You're just going to have to get the $5. Like there's a new, they're trying to do it where like it refunds you in app. But for what? But Fandango still has the old system of just throwing you a five. I like just getting the crisp $5 bill every single time.

I feel like for once the movie industry is giving back to you yeah um what are some of your guys favorite memories of god of this theater i'll say this this is the i've this is the theater in los angeles i've seen the most movies at wow i go we have seen i wrote we've seen like the last five marvel movies there every movie that's like a big movie it's almost a tenth of them but i've seen wait jack we've seen dc movies there. Every movie that's like a big movie It's almost a tenth of them. But I've seen, wait Jack, we've seen DC movies there too. I've seen The Dark Knight there. I saw

my first screening of Batman vs. Superman there. That was big. That was huge. I got the best movie going experience of my life was there. Opening a night, and we mentioned him earlier, opening night Borat house the audience loving it so into it it was so much fun i'll tell you similarly this is not borat uh uh which i saw

at comic-con and had a similar experience that was one of the most funny also the uh the jackass movies all are just so much fun never skip a jackass in the theaters yeah but what i saw at universal which was a really fun experience actually was i saw soul plane on opening night and i like still think soul plane is funny because of like yeah how much fun that theater experience was uh wow yeah i actually ran into uh uh kevin hart at the grocery store this was before he was very famous as kevin hart like shortly after soul plane and i was like i like you in soul plane and he looked at me like really and was like thanks like that's before uh before you know the kevin hart the luminary you know that

towers above us uh today you might have given him the gumption to keep going he might have given up he might have been down that way yeah yeah um i'm trying to think i did the mission impossible before oh yeah four and five and six i did two up there i want to say maybe my 14th birthday was mi2 at city walk very very pleasant i saw south park bigger longer uncut at city walk i remember that I remember that, actually. Was it good with an audience? I saw it was great with an audience. And also, my mom was one of the moms that brought other people's kids to see South Park. Oh, cool.

Without permission. So that was fun, too. You didn't sneak into South Park. No, my mom took us to South Park. Because I watched it once with her. And she was like, okay, this is good, actually. And then she was like, okay, I'll just tell... I'll bring all your friends in. I used to go a lot.

I'm sure they do something like this now. But for a while, they would do the first show on Sundays with $6. Oh. So, I saw Coraline and Tropic Thunder. Sure. Casino Royale. Yeah, I just remember going because it was like cheap there. And I think AMC still does on like Tuesdays or something.

But now it's probably like it's only $12 instead of $18. These tickets have gotten so expensive. They are literally like if you want an IMAX, it's like $27, $26 now. Okay, we're talking about, you know, prices being out of hand, about the parking being difficult, about missing the quality of movies like Moe Better Blues and Ninja Turtles 3. Movies were better. I will say, Jack, you mentioned the Vista earlier.

Vista still does 650 matinees seven days a week. They've got to get the stadium seating in there. They have to rebuild the entire interior of the theater to my specification so that it's to get the stadium seating in there. They have to, you know, rebuild the entire interior of the theater to my specification so that it's more like the Ark-like. There's only one way forward

for the Vista. But the only way that we're going to get a truly good movie deal is to do a little time traveling. Let me explain. Here's another thing I did while alive on the planet Earth.

I went to, on web.archive.org, the Wayback Machine, to citywalkhollywood.com. And I discovered that in 2004, CityWalk had a movie and meal deal. For $19.95, you would get a selected menu item from one of CityWalk's fine restaurants. You would see a movie. Yeah, there's a minimum two persons. So you do it on a date. But $19.95, a meal, a movie, and an $8 parking rebate. And what I thought is that we should all together travel back to 2004

and pick out our individual ideal movie meal deals. So what I have with me, let me reach into my laptop case. I will distribute these. I've printed out from the Wayback Machine. If you could pass this down to Mike Jason. When you said you had a lot, it's all becoming crystal clear. Yes, indeed. Wow, you stapled papers together.

I stapled and collated them because that would be so much shuffling on the podcast. A lot of black ink, too. Yeah, yeah. I wasted my own gray and black ink. What you have in front of you is a list of all of the qualifying menu items at Fine City Walk establishments that you could have picked. Choose one only. And a list of the 100 top grossing films of 2004 now i don't know if these films actually played at city walk at the time but let's make an assumption and by the way i'm no uh you know i'm no blockbuster you know big wig if there is a more obscure film of 2004 that you would like to select

uh feel free but let's all say our idealized 2004 night i'm gonna go first so you guys have a second to look um the i thought the most appetizing meal to me was the tradition the classic combo at the hard rock cafe of a hamburger with French fries and a coffee. Sure. Sounds great to me. And I will... And it's also the closest restaurant to the movie theater. You get a good seat.

Yes, yeah, I can get there. Because you weren't... Seat reservation was not so much a thing back then. So you have to be on time. And I am going to get there, and I am going to see a movie I still have never seen, and what better way than seeing it in time travel is uh i'm going to see tom hanks in the terminal because

i feel like i can really relate to the tale of a man trapped in a small retail area with limited dining and shopping options so you don't get to bring in the meal with you this is like you go for a meal at the restaurant yeah it's a it's a dinner and a movie and you have to you have to bring a date so you know uh maybe keep that in mind uh maybe it's well it doesn't it doesn't have to be could be something what year was this again 2004 so feel free to apply if you were dating somebody at the time or if you just want to bring one of your bros. It's up to you. I think I'm ready. I'll bring my 2004 girlfriend. She's coming along.

Jenna, let's have fun at the terminal. So you guys feel free to also say who you'd select for this. Well, I think I'm going to go with Carl Strauss and get the New Orleans Dirty Rice. Usually a solid food choice. I'm having a tough time deciding

though whether I want to see Shrek 2 or The Passion of the Christ. Two movies I did see in the theaters. Yeah, I understand. That's a tough one. That's a pickle. Don't you have to see The Passion though? Don't you have to see The Passion of the Christ?

Just for the theater experience experience like we were talking about with borat like oh yeah it's like passion is better with a crowd you know what i mean hooting and hollering you're gonna hear in the theater you're gonna be laughing as much at home as you would be in the theater i'm gonna laugh wherever i have the shrek 2 experience i could be on a plane and be having that experience who's going with it Who's special to you in 2004? You want to take on a nice passion date? Probably just one of my high school roommates or college roommates that people I hung out with in 2004. Hey, sounds good.

Well, have a good time, guys. Mike, you ready? All right. Well, I think I figured out. So I'm trying to really get in the head of me in 2004. That's like, I'm not trying to do what would be fun now. I'm trying to think where I was at. I was 20 figured out. So I'm trying to really get in the head of me in 2004. That's like, I'm not trying to do what would be fun now. I'm trying to think where I was at. I was 20 years old.

I had literally just gotten my first girlfriend. Oh, nice. And we were together. And look, we were very into independent stuff. Oh, yes. We were into indie music, all the coolest indie music all the coolest indie films oh i think i know where you're going with it so i think you know we're not maybe gonna have a hamburger or or a cheeseburger we're gonna get something a lot more exotic like salmon teriyaki

wasabi okay we don't just have like the normal meal we have something a little bit more uh creative and innovative and of course we're going to see the hippest indie film with the hippest indie music. I think I know what that is. Number 93, Garden State. Wow. That's the one. We are going to tear up when the Fru Fru song comes on. Right.

When he talks about his mom hitting her head on the dishwasher. When was this time? When was this time when we were happy and we're gonna be like that was good like that really kind of spoke to a generation and that's a hell of a soundtrack the shins are wonderful it'll change your life i swear and they did change our life they changed it i mean you guys i mean it's hard to say but could you like it would just adding up all the concrete ways that the shins changed all of our lives.

Well, I did purchase shoots too narrow, which was their followup album. The first album was like three years old at the point the guarded state came out. By the way, most of those songs were a few had been around for a while. The song was what? Carrying is creepy. Is that there's two? I forget whatrying is Creepy? There's two. I forget what the other one was. There's two on there.

Am I going to have to pay royalties now? I got to pay Getty and pay the Shins for singing all their songs. The Shins did a good job of hitting all the parameters for young men around that time. Because as somebody who's not that into or knows about music, I know about the Shins because of their music appearing in the anime flcl so no matter what type of weird little young man you were around the turn of the century but you were gonna be aware of the shins that's a different what are they called i think they just use shins music in in throughout the series unless i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure they or maybe it's the pillows that are used the pillows okay well because i was a big fan of yeah just so i can cut this uh you can't see that it's uh

the cineplex odeon canyon no no no probably not it's like you're back in 2004 again yeah fully coolly progressive currently airing on adult swim well okay so so to start with you know i'm putting myself in my shoes when i was in 2004, just like Mike as well. I also don't want to brag, but I did have a girlfriend as well. This would have been coming right to the end of- Well, well, well. Look at the millionaires. Well, this would have been coming to the end of high school where I did not date a single

person. So right at the end of high school, I think for about a couple months, I did find a way to get a girlfriend. So I did have a girlfriend in high school, and I'm going a couple months i did find a way to get a girlfriend so i did have a girlfriend in high school and uh i'm gonna beat you guys up after this scott had one that he saw twice oh wow high school wait oh yes i was in a long distance relationship where i saw her once a year yeah we just did a little fist bump over here long distance so but nadia uh was a vegetarian a vegetarian who I joined the recycling club to impress. And so that, just the fact that she's a vegetarian knocks out Gladstones, which doesn't have a

vegetarian option. It knocks out, well, not a hard rock. It doesn't knock out a hard rock. There's stuff there. There's some options there. You want to trade her something that's not a little rock it doesn't knock out a hard rock uh stuff there there's some options you want to treat yourself just on a little it's gonna it's gonna knock out tony roma's it's gonna knock out the wasabi at city walk um so i think that for us we probably would have been going with shanghai and maine around that time oh nice i think that i would have been

very happy with the mongolian beef or the sweet and sour chicken, any of the meat options, really. I guess I'll just choose the sweet and sour chicken for the purposes of this. And she would, of course, be relegated to the vegetable chow mein as her only option. And as far as the films we could see, I mean, it's also hard for me to pick one as well um but uh going with who i knew i was in 2004 um i'm gonna have to go with just the movie that comes in right after mike's garden state and that of course is jersey girl i don't think that i would have liked it after having seen the movie but uh being well aware of how big a fan i was of kevin smith around that time i think uh i think i definitely would have checked out jersey girl was that the first film past the quadrilogy the quinn trilogy yeah they had closed

the book on the view of skewed it was far over it's never coming back and then which is six months later it was back yeah yeah after right after jersey girl coincidentally he decided we're opening the book back up and there's more tales tales to tell in the view of skewniverse features the great jersey specific of george carlin saying don't throw out that grease i needed to cook the pork roll uh-huh a type of rolled meat uh specific to north and south jersey in the philadelphia area i i really like everybody's choices there i think we're all having all having fun nights what's a great night i don't that's maybe a high note to to take it out on but i also i do want to wrap back around

to the the legitimate uh political quagmire that happened at this theater uh hopefully this isn't too much of a bummer but here's what happened pre-city walk when it's just that theater up there amidst the orange groves uh boys in the hood is released and there was a shooting at city walk a non-deadly shooting but the movie this the screening did not happen there was like gun gunfire rang out before the movie even started screening canceled uh so then that was the first film i believe by john singleton uh uh when his next movie poetic justice came out the cineplex odeon refused to show it citing the previous example of what happened when we showed uh boys

in the hood uh the naacp was really upset about it they reached out to la mayor richard reardon saying what do you think about this and he said let business do its thing if that's their judgment that's their judgment uh the naacp called reardon's comments appalling we can't just let business uh do its thing called it a blatantly racist uh move um and so, yeah, actually, the cross-section of City Walk politics and films. Sure, here we are. I mean, this has echoes that reverberate even today to

cakes shops refusing to make wedding cakes for gay people. And then also, you know, Sarah Huckabee Sanders not getting served at the Red Hen in Lexington, Virginia. I don't think, I think everywhere at CityWalk would be very cordial to Sarah. I think she can walk in.

I think that there are some spots in CityWalk that maybe wouldn't serve Sarah Huckabee Sanders. If we had to eyeball it, yeah. Voodoo, I think Voodoo. Voodoo would not. Voodoo. Voodoo would not. Voodoo shouldn't. Yeah, they wouldn't. The Hard Rock Cafe. Love All Serve All.

They might have been hoisted by their own petard. They have to. They have no choice. Margaritaville, she's like, she's a queen of Margaritaville. She's fine in Margaritaville. Though Buffett himself is liberal.

Yeah. But probably, but not so. But millionaire liberal it's a big tent it's a big tent she probably wouldn't be allowed to do the i fly indoor skydiving because people would throw things at the yeah that's true break the glass i'd be worried that if she went to do the zen zone that if the though the very nice people at the zen zone they have some crazy tools and stuff they can like ramp up and get going at full speed and they might be able to like suffocate her they attached

electrodes to me and they shot electricity through me and then when i tried to put it up to 10 it was truly like i was being tortured oh is that the didn't they used to have that at the when it was the the the arcade there uh where uh margaritaville was did they have what they had like a chair that you would like hold the handles and it was supposed to be electrocuted i remember those in arcades yeah no this is like more like a holistic kind of massage thing oh gotcha it's literally like a thing that sends a jolt of electricity through your body yeah so if somebody relax you if some if a zen zone employee was upset and took their anger out on sarah sanders they could they could crank some of those electrical implements

up all the way yeah um that's the power that the zen so we were putting a lot of trust in the hands of the zen zone people that they weren't mad at us about like our review of a previous universal ride like they disagreed with our views on uh what had we done by then back to the future or or they're like no we hate et how dare you talk about how much you love it scott when you alluded earlier uh that there was like political stuff about city walk i thought you were talking about the universal evolution plan which is constantly being updated and never fulfilled about how they wanted to add extra lanes to barham boulevard and build apartments on the back lot oh that's right i'd love to live in the back lot the former the former spot of the psycho house yeah i'd love to live i would love to live in

the exact place where king kong burned down well i believe they wanted to build them and more shops and a pedestrian mall on top of what is now the superstore itself oh man i was gonna say that no matter where sarah huckabee sanders got kicked out at universal the thing that i put forward i theorize that uh no matter where it is chris pratt would come to her defense chris pratt a member of the jurassic family i think would like make a comment being like we should welcome you know sarah sanders and he's like famously a you know he sang margaritaville at the op at the opening of jurassic world with jimmy buffett and producer frank marshall so he might be hanging out at margaritaville already when it happens also i don't think we talk about this he might come up doing his dino hand stance and be like letter e letter e sarah sarah it's me it's me chris um i he also

by the way worked at the not the city walk uh bubba gumps but he worked at the uh the maui one the one where my grandfather had a heart attack oh god i God. I'm so sorry to hear that. He was literally, Chris Pratt was literally discovered by, it's like he was being a charming waiter and a director. He was waiting on somebody who said, you know, I'm a director. Would you want to be in my movie? Yeah, sure. Was it James Toback? Yeah, it's like he was serving a table for Jeffrey Epstein.

Discovered in Hawaii. No, you know what's weird david gordon green because he shows up in one of those early movies the strange thing is it was ray don chong uh the female lead of commando uh wow yeah and she she took him up on it flew him out to la four days later and that's the true that can't be true he's in the movie and he was a waiter there so what the fuck like you're like you're just literally like come to like fly from hawaii to whatever i guess but we're not this isn't a major who knows what this movie is you used to just sit at the counter at schwab's pharmacy and then uh you know i don't believe that tale i think that that's grown in the telling is what i think uh perhaps yeah yeah there's there's no way to know but we do

know that he would everyone leap to sarah's defense most of these stories everyone leaves out like a rich parent or like a connected parent to like an agent or something and then there's like just like this charming story where like i was living in my car and i didn't know and somebody saw me and i waved to them and they said i look cute on screen and then i was in a movie and it's like my aunt told me to go to this restaurant seek out this person and represent them george glutey was just in that studio apartment with his little pig right all the iron rick was just at the the bar mitzvah where steven spielberg discovered him that's true do you guys know that that's true that's a very yeah his first spielberg saw him in a video that was made specifically that forehead needs to be on

the silver screen on the widest on that forehead if you saw it at the city walk right max one of the biggest screens in the city you know the actual uh alden iron rike's forehead was the size of a regular screen if you watch it in imax that's actually the size of you could project a regular size movie well let's get that that event moving uh up at cineplex od on and we're in with that jack allison you survived podcast the ride uh uh see there was a there was a ton there i didn't even tell the story about uh when i waited late at night uh at the game stop before it was things from another world to buy buy, I think, Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. And some comedy guy interviewed me in line for some like, for like funny.com or something like that.

And then tried to edit it to make me look like a fool for staying up so late buying a video game. What a nerd I was. Comedy websites would never make people look foolish or take advantage of you. You have no experience with that. I'm well guilty of it myself. That's what we do.

That's the same location where you got interviewed about the simulator ride. Crazily enough, that is true. You spend enough time around that area in CityWalk and you get a camera shoved in your face. That's just the magic of show business. I was just hanging out up at CityWalk and somebody put a camera on me and before I knew it, I was a star. Yeah, I was a star of a funny.com video.

I just wanted to go to Gladstones for some fried fish and I got caught up in a jaywalking segment. That's the gold standard. That's the gold standard. Funny.com and on there like, you know, custom flash player that can't embed or whatever that's that's kid stuff like uh jaywalking that is that's really that's what we all shoot for

you want to get roasted because you don't know who like the 22nd president was right exactly yeah i want jay leno of all people uh decked out in nothing but denim to call me a fucking idiot on tv because i don't know can't name like all the supreme court justices in the 90s um yeah that that was the if you that was the world cup of looking like an idiot on in in for comedy i don't know where you go now if you want to be a a celebrated idiot without the without jaywalking well uh trevor noah just plays a clip of you it says like this guy looks ridiculous yeah you'd be lucky to get onto uh the joel mckale show uh if you maybe so what has to happen is that

someone needs to do a video of you where you look stupid and that goes viral and then you're on every show and then you're on every single show and everybody's got their little comment for you oh yeah and if it doesn't happen in a timely fashion you're like crossing your fingers for next season of tosh yeah yeah well that's i mean you know it is that's huge it's huge to get tosh but yeah it's a little more on a uh a longer timeline you know one time i i made a little i made a video that was a sketch that was intended to be funny it was on my youtube and i got called by a tosh producer who wanted to use it on the show as if it was like found a found object he found it he found it yeah yeah him a real hollywood guy and me some rube somewhere and he called me i was working at funny or die at the time so i had a hollywood guy and me some rube somewhere and he called me i was working at funny or die at the

time so i had a hollywood job and he and this guy called me and and like could not have been more condescending on the phone could not have thought i was more of like a kansas kid and he was like so you know so what we can do we can pay you uh we could pay you a hundred dollars for that and i know that's not a lot of money but you know what Maybe that's a little bit You could buy a new camera You could buy yourself a new camera That might be nice And I'm just like

I'm in the parking lot And Snoop Dogg pulls up right then A lot of times with Tosh though They're just dealing with people Who own a video they took of someone dying And so it's less like a personal investment From the videographer Because mostly they just took a video they took of someone dying and so it's less like a personal investment from the videographer because mostly they just took a video of somebody getting killed and then put that online whereas you are just there like hey man i think i'm down the street from you

i can see you i'm waving can you see me are you sitting at the daily grill outside calling me I can see you Jack thanks for being here anything you'd like to plug you know

well not really I mean I do the struggle session podcast which is at patreon.com slash struggle

session and I'm on Twitter at Jack Allison lol and you know there's all you know I'm doing Mitch Live pretty soon,

which is going to be like... Oh, that may have happened by the time this is airing out. Yeah, well, we'll have done Mitch Live recently, which is like we're doing a brand new show that's based on kind of similar, you know, theme. Like another show we did before. But yeah, it's with Mike Mitchell, famously on the doughboys podcast

interviewing people and all that kind of bullshit so you know enjoy it if it's happening still you you're streaming that on twitch are you going to archive it like yeah i think so i'm not sure what we're going to do with that archive i think we're going to have an archive i'm not sure if we'll like have it live immediately or what the fuck we'll throw it in the bug main llc vault or something like that but uh or if you'll play it if you'll sneak in with a projector to the dimex theater and play it on alden's for the next time there's an alden movie well i mean of course the uh the tale of the what the fuck were they called like the the bad guys in solo oh yeah like yeah. Who Darth Maul is in charge of. Crimson Dawn. The tale of Crimson Dawn needs to

continue. Solo 2 Crimson Dawn. Yeah, Solo 2 Crimson Dawn. So look for Mitch live playing exclusively inside a frame of Solo 2 Crimson Dawn. Finally, the gaudy of Star Wars movies. Finally something about organized crime.

Fellas, you know where we're at let's we gotta wrap this we'll see you tomorrow we'll keep plugging our stuff tomorrow also we just got the stone i heard oh yeah oh my god i totally forgot 13 stone is finally appearing oh wow and uh and the stone is in the shape i can't quite see it guys guys. What's it in the shape of? This one is oval-shaped, like that classic 90s oval logo that a lot of things use. And it's just got a picture of all the members of Dishwalla in mesh t-shirts. Yeah, it's weird that it still has a picture on it. Oh, now I see it. I'm sorry.

My vision is blurry today. Now it's in front of us. We completed Sector 13. The Sector Keeper is on his way to being resuscitated, and we're on our way to our next sector. We'll see you tomorrow. Does this come out like seven days a week, this podcast? Yes.

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