Podcast: The Ride - The CityWalk Saga - Sector 8 with Evan Susser

Episode Date: September 21, 2018

Evan Susser (Fist Fight, Doughboys Commissioner) joins us to talk bawdy candy stores and that famous King Kong Sign. The CityWalk Saga - Sector 8 consists of: Abercrombie & Fitch The Fountains ITSUGAR Sam Goody (retired) Former NASCAR Thing King Kong Sign on the ITSUGAR Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/ FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! Or a Cinnabon You need a place A place for rock A place for roll A place where Oakland Raiders Merch is sold A sublime hot topic And billabong

A place where you can purchase A candy thong So let's go take a walk Let's all go to CityWalk, tonight, tonight. Podcast The Ride presents the CityWalk Saga, a daily, 19-part, extremely necessary series exploring the stores, restaurants, and wonderful magic that make up Universal CityWalk Hollywood. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, the CityWalk saga. My name is Mike Carlson. This is Sector 8.

Joining me, as always, Jason Sheridan and Scott Gairdner. Hi. 8's gonna be great. 8's gonna be great. I was really all business there on that intro. Yeah, that was nice. Yeah, we look, these don't We got to get to the guests. We got to get to this because let's be honest.

They can be direct and free of filler. This is a lot of content. Yeah. So let's bring him in. Ladies and gentlemen, you know him as a screenwriter. You know him from Doughboys. You know him from just being a good guy. His name is Evan Susser.

Hey, guys. Happy to be here. I was trying to guest welcome back i was trying to think of my own hosted by three men who come on what guys we got to have one i feel like that's a signature we kind of retired it for these so that we could just get to business and also so we didn't have to think of 19 jokes guys i'm honored i love it a big special event it's important obviously i'm associated with uh a big you know a podcast event spectacular yeah the doughboys tournament of champions so that's why i was very honored when you guys asked me to be the sector keeper um and i'm thrilled

what bad news for you my my man we had uh president sector keeper okay well we've there's a guy i mean look how could we not choose this guy to be the sector keeper he is the sector keeper that's his name yeah he's the real child he's this ghost child who died and died in the fountain so it's this is rough okay we'll power through do you do you think you can adjust i can this is like getting news of a tragedy yeah i mean i don't know this has probably come out already in the episodes i've already aired we were recording this this this spectacular has not yet begun i really thought i we agreed that i was i was gonna be the sector keeper i don't know who this new the original sector keeper is well didn't you wonder why we hadn't asked you to do anything

yeah now well i kind of figured it was kind of my place to decide what i wanted to do well does every anytime you go on a podcast that ends an event do you assume that you'll be some sort of uh basically i think that i think that's a reasonable assumption for me to make. I mean, you can't argue with success guys. That's true, but after the stunts you pulled on that ice cream invitational, I don't know. I don't want to hear it.

Guys, let's get into it. You said on the other podcast you did, our podcast, this is a different type of podcast. This isn't full of antics this is this is a full straight ahead rule followers and when the sector keeper has already been set up and dictated all the the confines of this thing we can't switch that now yes but i mean also feel free to if you boss us around in any regard okay Okay, I'll do a little bit of bossing.

We're too timid to say anything. To clarify, my bit did not work as well because I didn't realize in the lore of this podcast you're doing it that just the sector keeper is just a person. Oh, you didn't know that? I thought it was like an actor or a person who has that title. Oh, he's a real child. He's a boy. I didn't claim as the second keeper. Were you thinking that this podcast

hasn't gotten fantastical yet? Because it has. I did not know. There's a precedent. I'm saying that the podcast is fantastical. I am thrilled to hear it's fantastical.

So episode four was a fantastical episode. That's fantastic. So that's what I'm saying. After the smash hit debut Of our first character Bugsy Bones We figured why not go full tilt character

Well I could show you a reddit message board That might explain why Oh but you can show me that About anything Well here Why don't we then turn to our character I mean our real boy that we know, to give us the assignment of today's sector.

Boys, boys, and you. Today's sector is Sector 8, Abercrombie and Fitch, It's Sugar, Sam Goody, a former NASCAR thing, the King Kong on the It's Sugar, and the fountains I died in good luck boys all right there we have it well that one's complicated and it's it's it's rough for him to talk about because this sector does include the dancing fountains that gave the sector keeper yeah his staff infection that brought him into the limbo state that he is currently in i

have a question yes in that short pause that we just did right did something play yes for the listener yes because here there was just silence the obviously you didn't let the power of the sector keeper into your heart he spoke to us in that moment. It's kind of like the Peter Pan play where you have to clap and believe in fairies. You didn't see him? It's exactly like that. I guess you don't believe and I guess you aren't an eternal child like

we are. Now I see what's going on. You came in here thinking you were like a Deadpool like character and you were going to break the fourth wall left and right, call stuff out, not play into the reality of the situation and and kudos to you i know where this is going i can see what's going to happen here so yes he's a chop buster you're a chop buster all right guys someone's getting ready for his deadpool 3 meeting i'm coming in hot i'm coming in hot to this podcast i'm sorry i was a much

better guest the first time i did it where i wanted to play in your playground now i'm asking you to play in mine but let us get to the sector okay well we we can experiment in a 19 part series you're gonna cut this is gonna be bailed on listening to it there's no time to cut things for this series we gotta get it up and out well so well here do you maybe we should talk a little bit about the dancing fountains which well let's let's inform our guests this sector just a reminder i'm worried that we've done the reminders in every single one every single time but you're probably right that we should because people might have zoned out people skip justoned out in the podcast. People skipped just four.

I don't know why anyone would bail out. Well, a lot of Susser fans are going to be tuning in just for this one. All right. For all the Susserinos out there. Abercrombie, The Dancing Fountains, It's Sugar. Well, no, he read the sectors. We don't have to read them again. I was doing it for the guest.

Oh, man, this is a disaster. You caused chaos. This all stays in. This all stays in. Do you want to play? Do you want to play your Vince McMahon music? He has a boombox on him. We recapped before we started.

You know what's in the sector. I know what's in my sector. I came prepared. I did research. If you had concentrated and listened to the sector keeper, he would have reminded you. Okay. That's on me. But what you maybe don't know is that the disease-ridden fountain gave him a staph infection.

Oh, sure, sure, sure. And that's why he's in this limbo state. No, I know that. But how do you guys, who have not been killed by the fountains, feel about the fountains? We're starting with the fountains. We're starting with the fountains. We're starting with the fountains. Well, how do I feel about the fountains? I by the fountains feel about the fountain we're starting with the fountain we're starting with the fountains yeah well how do i feel about the fountains i love the fountains i mean the fountains like that adds some what they call kinetic energy you know when you're talking about a theme park but you need movement okay so when you get in that big square there's

all these little the water's moving there's lights going like that's great what what is there not to like about the fountain yeah and uh recently redone in the last few years by the same company Disney uses for the World of Color. Here's my one, and I'm very happy with the sector that I have. I'll just say that off the top. I think that when you think CityWalk, the things in my sector, I think, are probably pretty close to the front of your mind. Absolutely. It's in the dead center. It's in the dead center pretty close to the front of your mind. Absolutely. It's in the dead center. It's in the dead center.

It is the heart of CityWalk. The fountains, here's the thing with fountains. There are two types of fountains, I think. There are fountains that you play in as kids, and there are fountains like the Bellagio fountains that you watch. The fountains at CityWalk are kind of in between, where kids do play in them, but also they're kind of like you watch the fountains at city walk are kind of in between where it's like kids do play in them but also they're kind of like you watch them for me i wonder what would be the ideal fountain for for do you think they're perfect as is you mean like is there a plus up to this fountain you do you want something more are you saying it's caught in between you'd rather either participate

or view to view yes okay i mean i think though the here's what i think your problem is is that we cannot participate as adult as adult men in their 30s men who embrace theme parks and love them i would agree with that that's a line you can't it's a little yeah the closest i came to participating in something that i shouldn't have is when jason and i went in that tunnel uh that's in the grizzly challenge trail at disney's california adventure that's usually just like a chucky cheese tunnel it's out where you can like climb on ropes and bridges and stuff and you and i went in this tunnel oh right because that's where you go to find out your spirit animal right exactly but that's fine to do but i went in the tunnel and i went i should not have gone in that tunnel that's for children so that's where you go to find out your spirit animal. Right, exactly. But that's fine to do. But I went in a tunnel and I went, I should not have gone in that tunnel. That's for children. So that's the closest I've come to doing something like this.

An enclosed space that is meant to be for children. Do you think it's okay to goof around in like a water area with a significant other? Wait a minute. So if like your girlfriend, two 30-year- olds were frolicking around in the city. Like 500 days of summer. Wouldn't it be cute? I think if it feels organic, but if you, if it's obvious that you plan to do this and are like staying there for a while, I think the size of the fountain at city walk, it's

pretty small. That dictates the size of the person that should be. I agree with that bigger fountain that was fun and shooting water than maybe you and the you and zoe de chanel could frolic but no i don't not this one this is not appropriate frolic for 30 year olds yeah it doesn't feel like a romantic fountain it does feel kid oriented but i see what you're saying that the colors are the cult the light show that's been added makes it seem like a show right it makes it feel like a nightclub or something yeah

but a bunch of if like you know a dozen adults all stormed that thing that'd be creepy as hell so you want firmer fountain lines is what you're saying do you do you have a fountain you prefer anywhere? Bellagio. That's what I want. Yeah, we're all about Vegas, baby. But it's so big. There's not the room.

Well, yes, that's an issue. I wish I could play in the Bellagio fountains. Hey, I'm not going to argue with that. Hey, all right. I wish you could play there also. But be careful, as the sector keeper knows. Let me say this. I wish you could play there also. But be careful, as the sector keeper knows. Let me say this.

Those fountains, as you mentioned, Jason, although I saw information saying they did not do the World of Color. Oh. I saw that specifically pointed out on a message board. What sources? That person could be wrong. I'm not totally sure. Yours was a message board? It is a dense. The website for wet design is dense and has every possible credit

of everything they did so that would be so what are they credited they're credited as the city walk fountains city walk fountains but not world of color not world of color is what i saw should we also make this a world of color episode or is that going to run too long we have to ask the sector keeper i think it's probably a different sector being that it's in a different city and place and county. Also, we try to be conscious of sustainability of not doing five things and have five attractions.

World of Color Material, though. Go for it. No, it's fine. So the fountains at the Grove, also made by this company, the Bellagio fountains, made by the same company, and the Americana, buzz buzz made by the same company and the

americana buzz buzz and the largest fountain in the world uh in dubai which is at a mall i think also called city walk though it's not affiliated with wow really city walks but these were all done by a place called wet design let me tell you another thing about wet design uh a couple years ago i think 2012 um the headquarters up in burbank burnt to the ground whoa yeah wow um so all of ironically the one water show they forgot the design so a car in the middle of the night crashed into a power transformer and uh which and all and live wires in the building got tripped, and it burnt to the ground. Is it possible this is the age-old theme park trick of burning something down for insurance money? Mike, you're one step ahead of me.

Because about 10 years prior, the company's former headquarters also burnt to the ground. What? I was right. Something weird, eh? Yep. Yep. This company, too, also. This is a theme park trick, though.

Yeah. This is a classic theme park trick. Their headquarters used to be at Universal Studios. Oh, interesting. And Universal Studios has been prone, as we've discussed, to many odd fires over the years. Odd fires. Now, I don't want to start throwing know any libelous words about the people behind wet design but it's a little odd it was in the middle of the night no one was there so nobody died in a mysterious car just crashed into a pole doesn't that seem like the kind of thing that could be

yes it's very suspicious staged like a water fountain show it's the first thing i think of water fountain i was thinking of like disaster i was thinking of like a disaster like the underground subway crash yeah that's what it does sound like the pole falls awkwardly the pole tilted there's stuttered a couple times and then hit the transformer. They had five 10-gallon drums just sitting there that shot flames out of them. And a voice somewhere said, oh, no, look. But nobody could see who said it. Wow.

It seemed prerecorded. Man. So, some oddity when you look into the old fountains. So, do we know that their headquarters has been rebuilt? Is it in Burbank still? when you look into the old fountains. So they have still, do we know that their headquarters has been rebuilt? Is it in Burbank still? I think so, because as I said, a robust list of dancing fountains.

This is the dancing fountain place. Also Epcot Center back in the day. The Journey into Imagination. The Leapfrog Fountain. I would play in those as a child, even though you weren't really supposed. They were kind of on planters andters and stuff so easy to jump so easy to jump yeah the water as it goes me and my brother would just kill like an hour just like doing that so is that a superior fountain

to you yeah i mean i think all of the fountains that you've named them they've done are better than the city walk one but do you i mean are better than the CityWalk one. But do you... I mean, it's like the classic, like, when they, like, hire, like, someone who's, like, done really good stuff. It's like, oh, this is, like, the guy who, like, you know, who directed this movie and that movie. Oh, it's going to be great. I was like, ugh. We got the Bellagio guy. And that's the way this was sold.

We got the Bellagio guys to do the CityWalk fountains. Is that your fear going into a meeting that F. We got the Bellagio guys to do the CityWalk fountains. Is that your fear going into a meeting that Fistfight is your Bellagio fountains and people will be disappointed by your pathetic spurts on future projects? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I think he had a limited amount of space. They had a limited amount of space to work with here. And I think they should not be held accountable for not living up to the standard of the Bellagio

fountain. It's like a tiny rectangle. I like the fountains, and I like that they've kept them there as opposed to the cowards behind Cosmic Waves at New Tomorrowland, which was replaced long ago. It's only that rotating orb. I guess just because the area under it became a receptacle of piss and poo,

and I don't even want to say the other fluids no don't say it um bad fluids and this is one of the they took away one of the water the bodies of water outside of the billabong store so this is one of the last water things left at city walk yeah yeah so i say keep it up i I think, do you, are you just, do you think no color? No, the color is good. I guess the fountains are fine. But you just wanted something more impressive. You want something more. I feel like left, first of all, left out of playing in them.

Yes. I feel left out of playing in them. And I want to be a little more wowed by them. I think that, and we'll get to uh you know the other parts but like you know i think that it's not one of the like premier attractions of city walk the fountains yeah uh well they're still redoing stuff they this is not in the sector but the dragon could like shoot water out of its mouth or something toward the fountain like there's probably some yeah yeah yeah yeah

yes and the dragon should have it they should have a light on it to make it orange so it looks like it's like fire yeah it's like literally pointed at yeah the fountain maybe at a certain point they were thinking they would now we're talking but then of course like dropping like a gallon of water from two stories up might like knock a kid down also in california is constantly in drought might seem that doesn't bother me as much as the kid getting hit in the head we need this but that's it could be like it could be misting and then the red and it would look like breathing fire yeah well we plus that up yeah that's a really good plus yeah i'm into it um well let's talk about the thing right behind the

fountains which is the clothing store abercrombie and fitch you guys have a lot of abercrombie and fitch i spent a half hour in this abercrombie and fitch is it because you got lost because it's uh no no it is it is and weaving it. Yeah, I never went in it before. And it is like every other Abercrombie & Fitch store. It smells of cologne, very strong cologne or perfume. I don't think I lasted 10 minutes because of that fucking smell. The smell is so aggressive. I've heard the jokes for years. I never really shopped at Abercrombie, and so I went into this one.

And, yeah, I lasted about 10 minutes. And I was like this smells awful they used to have just like a shirtless guy shirtless guy and that wasn't just city walk that was all abercrombies and i think it maybe was the movie neighbors where you know zach efron that's the job that he gets and zach efron and seth rogan does it at the end i think that maybe was like the final lampooning of that thing of having the dudes outside. Because I will say, with the shirtless guys,

I feel like, of course, it belongs at City Walk. Without the shirtless guys, it's kind of like, why is this here? It felt like the ghost of like 10 years ago. Like none of the, all of the styles were very old. There was just so many like rugby shirt, like an abundance of rugby shirts. Everything is priced like at a higher rate. Everything felt like unique low quality, but priced like $20 more.

They had floral prints, which some listeners might know i'm way into floral now which is not i'm not sure i'm not at the forefront of this i'm just saying in the last few months i got way into the floral stuff so they had some styles that looked a little bit more current a little better one shirt i did want to buy they did not have in my size so i have to mark them down for that mark i was looking at like, they just had regular, you know, Oxford casual button up shirts. They were so thick. It was like really weird.

It was like a Oxford beefy tea. Yeah. Essentially it was, I don't know. Everything, everything about this place rubs me the wrong way and how empty it was. Mine was not empty when I was in there. I do think this is going to like accidentally

fit in the new CityWalk that seems to be coming, which is more like Fossil and Sephora. It's going to look more like a regular mall. So it's going, it is,

I feel like it sticks out in the old CityWalk, but now I think it's going to magically fit because it's going to just be a lot of stores that are in a regular

shopping mall. So... How disappointing. It's very's very disappointing yeah there's no this thing never you this doesn't have what does this have a fun thing outside is there a surfboard or anything over the top of it a kayak inside i will say to go back a little bit the neighbor scene to which you refer was filmed at that location so of course if this if you consider this the the peak of abercrombie in culture you would have to call this like the ultimate abercrombie because that moment was captured for that film i think they also had some lawsuits about their hiring and employee practices i think that's correct. Were you one of them? No.

Well, no. I wasn't even in consideration. Because that was what the lawsuits were about. Like, only hot people work here. Only people willing to take their shirts off in the shirtless audition. Mm-hmm. Yeah. If they were still doing that, we should all go and try to get the job.

Sure. That would be good good but they're not doing it anymore so well yeah we can't uh i don't know that's about it someone else will have to sell their dog shit clothing the other thing that i don't like about abercrombie being at city walk is i feel like city walk is la california baby and abercrombie i feel like it's such an east coast look and style it yeah it's like you know it's like cape cod the hamptons you're calling jost in the hamptons it's calling jost in the hamptons yeah i see what you're saying yeah the pole because i know he is fashion

yeah wait now is he not football not football but he is fashion all right is there any way is there some video that would prove which one he is or not i guess we can only dream right i i hope if one exists let me know um but but yeah i guess because they have bill labong which is very california surfer dude guy and there's that other one that's i can't think of the name of it that's like that oh the skate shop yeah the other skate shop that's very skate shoes california this area is covered and this is in a prime sector as we said the heart of city walk heart of city it's a real it's a real bar that yep and uh as you were now the evan you are the heart of this series but it's covering the heart of city not the sector keeper not the second he's not he's the the brains or the speed he's the soul of this series yeah yeah you're the brains um i i think it's a bummer that that's like this primary location right

in the center especially because it used to be a sam goody and this was like a a um the landmark what's the word for a flagship? It's a flagship. It was a flagship, Sam Goody. Multiple stories. And you feel, when you're in that Abercrombie, it feels claustrophobic. Yeah, low ceilings, but big floor space. Sam Goody makes

more sense. It used to be multiple stories. I think they've turned some of that space into CityWalk or Universal Offices. I think some of that is probably where I took my test and got my training to be a tour guide. It was a former Sam Goody section. Yes, I think so. But it was big enough.

It was like the Times Square Virgin Megastore. It felt very Megastore-esque in that like there were events and signings there i tried to find out what some of those were i didn't find a lot but here's a quick list some of peak culture of the 90s and 2000s happened at the same goodie uh hansen performed in store no authority performed in store were they like a also run boy band or i don't remember what no authority i mean it's i'm looking it up that doesn't even they were a boy band though they were in the mold of i wanted i but i could be wrong uh also could be like oc skater punk but i'm not totally sure uh todd mcfarland oh signing there smash mouth in store performance. And this legitimately cool that Ricardo Maltabon did a signing for the DVD release of Wrath of Khan.

Wow. Sam Goody. I'd like to go to that still. Hey, Scott's going to be very excited about this. No Authority was an American boy band who was signed to Michael Jackson's record label, MJJ Music. What? I don't think I know about his record label michael jackson's record label what else is on mjj well we got to go down the rabbit hole all right um hmm so they like yeah

because there was this other one that was comprised of like tito and jermaine's kids um and and michael does a hook on one of their songs that one's's a, that one's iffy. Um, well, we're no, we're no authority. Kind of like, were they like a bunch of like Aaron Carter? They look like that.

Yeah. Blonde, bleach, blonde kids. Uh, right. Um, Brownstone.

Don't know that. No authority. Rebby Jackson. Okay. Well, that's a Jackson. Tatiana Ali. Oh yeah. She did music.

Oh yeah. Men of vision. V I Z I O N. Hmm. Good spelling. Uh, Brownstone. lots of jackson tatiana ali oh yes she did oh yeah men of vision v-i-z-i-o-n good spelling uh browns uh uh quo q-u-o quo uh 3t quo is a new star wars character that's that's in episode nine greg grunberg is playing quo i wish they would put yeah i wish greg uh would be a new character in each episode uh yeah that looks like the major ones if we're talking about the heavy hitters of mjj music uh so yeah this that's about when did that close um late 90s early 2000s um but that was bad i also what i remember is a lot of like really good like uh bit like the

big row of listening stations. Just a thing I hadn't thought about in a minute. I miss the CD store listening stations. I understand why there's no reason to have them now. What is a new music store? Because they're not selling CDs. What could go? Because I feel like that would be great at CityWalk.

Like a music. Well, like Amoeba. If there was an amoeba location amoeba is too dirty for city right yeah not used it can't be used at city walk music experience i don't know what this is but they gotta have some music at city walk well because i miss this in general i i would go kill a lot of time at music stores and because you know you had books to leaf through in magazines and the listening stations,

and you could spend a lot of time in them. I guess I understand why they're not around, but I guess posters and T-shirts, but that's what Sam Goody had. That's what some of those other music land. Well, records, vinyls made a big comeback in the last decade or so so yeah i guess it's like probably like vinyl and t-shirts and funko pops funko pops of like

lemmy from motorhead another store that sells funko pop i mean city walk needs more funko pops yeah but they've also got the hard rock retail store so music's a little covered and hot topic has a lot of bands and socks with bands and there's plenty of sock stores it's pretty hard to think of an all-new experience yeah for city walk to have and just putting in an apple i think would be would be dull yeah but they might do that because they're doing dull stuff now music brings up an experience I had when I was up there sort of walking through this heart of CityWalk. I saw a band.

There was a band set up. They got the live music throughout the walkways and stuff. And this band had an accordion player, two violinists, and they were playing All-Star. Wait, that's it? I think there was a guy on either keyboards or bass but it was just the oddest combination and the park had just let out so there was a huge crowd that was giving them a very wide berth to like there was like a huge group watching them but gave them like 20 feet of space all-star might be the perfect song

for city walk that's got me thinking because the other all-star you're in the shadow of shrek as it is uh uh uh despacito is another thing that i i think of city walk but then of course the song yeah gasolina uh has been mentioned uh but also A Different Way by DJ Snake featuring Lauv. I looked the name up of this song. I Shazam this song because it's been playing so many times when I was at CityWalk. Can we play five seconds of it real quick? Yeah, it samples like Bollywood music too.

I've heard it. Yeah, it's called A Different Way. A Different Way. Okay. And what can we play three seconds before we get sued i don't know we've broken that rule review service we played much of the winnie the pooh for president yeah and that's let's see here okay it's the video this sounds familiar it's like that same production on the justin bieber sorry or something where it's got that like very yeah yeah those little plunks um i'll tell you some music

i've heard at city what i mean come on we have to play a little bit of it. Oh, man. We gotta play a legally clearable amount of one of the finest songs. A band that I've seen at City Walk that I've spent a lot of time thinking about is a guy named C.G. Reich. If you're at not only Universal City Walk. I went to Jewish summer camp with him. I'm kidding. He barely got it out. uh universal i went to a jewish summer camp with him i'm kidding like i think he's significantly older but uh i don't know uh he's a counselor or something cg cg reich uh at universal city walk or downtown disney at disneyland if you're ever walking past and you see a guy with just a giant armada of every type of drum and bongo and

gong and wind chime making like super generic world question mark music it's usually cg reich the the pilot the first episode uh of moonbeam city was devoted to this kind of music and the fact that you hear this kind of inane wavy stuff in uh in that like third street prom i mean i love that kind of bullshit really another thing that i like you know the guys let the glasses where it's like they fill in like different levels of water they're just putting their finger around the glass and it's i love that yeah yeah guys that like they have to set up it takes an hour and a half to set up what they're doing they can't be getting paid that much money for it 79 drums and the first time you see something like that you were blown away and then every time after you just walk by

it it doesn't even register only with that stuff like playing the saw as well fun ones but I would just encourage everyone to street performers at City Walk huh yeah they have them they do yeah because that's this guy that's what Jason was saying too yeah the accordion and the violin

they're on like the stage are you saying they're in the center accordion across from the fountains oh I guess I have seen this a little bit and then a little further down there was a guy playing like jazz sax no yeah i guess i have seen music and then a one burst just want a single person watching them for like multiple songs but they were into it i wish they would have more like dance acts like in the third street promenade because it's always usually just like an acoustic singer songwriter or a musician but like on the third street promenade you'll see like a guy in a bodysuit with a cage and you won't know what's going on and like he's setting something up i left

my left the volume on uh he'll be setting something up and it's like usually a letdown this happens over in burbank too there'll be guys in like glow suits and they'll like warm it up for something and you're like holy shit what's gonna happen here and then like it comes out and they're like just bad break dancing for 15 minutes you're like okay well that wasn't worth it well burbank also gives uh street licenses to the um tell it to like the evangelists to like people screaming about the the power of the lord yeah i'm not advocating that city walk have those people i'm not advocating but you know have those people i'm not advocating but you know what maybe wouldn't be so bad make it feel like like a real city well yeah that comic

con vibe right you got a lot of people yelling about repent center at comic con one of the best parts actually they're actually legitimately seeing then like you know like a hundred spider men all jog by in some flash mob, some forced viral event past all the people with sinners repent signs. I've never seen any jogging from the Comic-Con crew.

A hundred Spider-Men eating hamburgers and I believe you. A hundred Spider-Men doing a very lazy rendition of the backpack kid dance um um so you're saying up the street performance game yeah we were covered in the 79 drums territory but let's get some crazy yeah let's get some contortionists yeah some dancers and some just performance art in general because you have to audition for it i've looked at the form some comedians like in the new york subway like comedians does that happen well i think that i mean those you have to like how you're trapped in the space

you do i've seen the form to apply i think i did say we should apply and do something well because we've discussed well what we really wanted was to play at Margaritaville. Right. To be like a band that plays on that little Margaritaville stage. I think as long as Margaritaville stays open for another year, we can do it. Will it? I don't know. And especially as desperation climbs.

Yes. They will need to lower the bar to people who are what i'm like i would describe myself as like a uh like a 12 musician what percentage would you put yourself at oh i got 60 yeah i know 70 maybe right and jason scott susser's making a face like that's not right trumpet guitar i can kind of play the drums. Piano. Get a trumpet right now. I don't have one with me.

I didn't know about the trumpet. I played in a band for years. Well, a mark of a good trumpeter would be owning a trumpet. I do own it. It's in my pairs. Someone who's a 70% of a trumpet player owns a trumpet. I break out in sweat when having to sing in like performance spaces oh and we made you we gave you a solo in the live show that may have been what i prepared for the

most in that live show that's very funny ah here we go go go um so i don't know but why shouldn't we be allowed oh yeah we should Together, those percentages equal nearly three quarters of one musician. And Jason takes us down a little bit, but that's okay. It's not that much. All right. So, if you want to hear some Jimmy Buffett fan fiction songs, think about how he hates the moon because it's the opposite of the sun. And what's one of yours, Mike?

One of my songs, these are real songs we've written. Mine is called Hiding Out in a Pelican's Beak. And it's about when you cheat on your wife or girlfriend and then you have to get away from her and you hide out in a pelican's beak. Does this imply that you shrink yourself to do so? No, it's a giant pelican because they have a big beak. Neat. Yeah, so we'll do that eventually

yeah and if you let us know on twitter if you want to hear those songs or if we should shut up forever susser vote i have heard hanging out in a pelican's beak and i will say it's beautiful wow and it is it is the kind of thing that makes you say, well, the person who did this is at least 60 or 70% a musician. Well, you haven't heard I Hate the Moon. It's the opposite of the sun because it is not written. I like the direction. I like the direction. Yeah, it's a good area.

I'll keep at it. Well, let's keep at this sector. Moving on to, well, I guess It on to well i guess it's sugar oh well how would you guys say the name of this store because written out if the audience doesn't have it in front of them it's it apostrophe s u g a r but what how what do you think is the proper pronunciation you know i'm not 100 sure but i do want to make sure to get it right in order to you know pay proper respect to a modern day playground dedicated to immersing its customers in content that they just can't keep to themselves is that

what it's is that real that is there this is us that is there about us created to satisfy a universal sweet tooth uh uh a place as the place where candy obsessed come to indulge in the sights smells and tastes of their favorite sweets and get immersed in the brand's irreverent voice and fun loving nature and come is spelled c-o-m-e right yes okay good they did not they did not take my note but with apostrophes after every letter yeah uh i say it it's sugar but i guess you could say it sugar it like sugar it sugar it like it girl yeah sugar but you don't space i guess that implies that it's one thing there's no it's not it's sugar it's it's sugar it's sugar no i say it's sugar i say it too i know you're not supposed to but i'm an adult but is it like a sassy is it like a sassy f it's sugar it's sugar like is it a sassy affect you know what i'm saying

yeah like it's sugar no i don't think so no you, it's sugar. No, I don't think so. No? You think it's attitude? I think it's it sugar. You think it's that? Yeah. I think, no, no. It's sugar.

I think it's kind of sultry. I know, it's maybe like that. Jason, what do you think? How do you think you say it? I think it's just it's sugar. That's not right. That's for sure not right. Because it's like it.

It is. It's sugar. Like, that's what it is to me, I think. It's sugar. That's what I think it is. There's no wrong way to because it's like it it is it's sugar like that's what it is to me i think it's sugar that's what i think it is no wrong way to say it except jason jason's is for sure wrong it's too sterile but here is my thought about it it sugar is both the best and worst candy shop in the world yeah yes i agree with that thank you i'm glad you guys are on board yeah i i wish uh jeff rubin ceo and chief gummy bear i just read that now whoa what wait this is title this is the title jeff rubin founder ceo and chief gummy bear so this you are the chief gummy bear of this podcast yeah that goes without saying i'm not arguing with that

um i i've been kind of i was more distracted the reason i probably didn't process that is because uh he created he also created a candy business for fao schwartz long since gone under called fao sweets coming back though fao shorts is it yeah Is it? Yeah. Where? But is Schweets out of the oven? But is FAO Schweets coming out of the oven? FAO Schwartz. Perfect for CityWalk. FAO Schweets. That is great. Yeah.

Back over Abercrombie. There it is. And also, sorry, New York. You lose. You lose. The new FAO Schwartz is going into Times Square. This is probably we're careful about not saying anything slanderous about anyone but uh i would not in 2018 if i was a male powerful ceo call myself the chief gummy bear i just i'm not implying it

was you said jeff rubin was or i'm not implying anything about je Rubin. I just think that a lot of these stories, you just, I don't think you want to be going around telling people to call you. I'm Chief Lil Hugger. I just think it's a bad territory to be in. I'll tell you this. There's a place where that sort of bawdiness flies a little more, and that's where It's Sugar was founded. Atlantic City, New Jersey, baby. I've been to that store. a little more flies a little more and that's where it sugar was founded atlantic city new jersey

baby i've been to that store i don't know if it's the original location but i've been to the it sugar in atlantic city it looks like all of the other it sugars which is kind of uh a knock against it another thing that a knock against it you don't see any candy being made all of this stuff is boxed or in bulk yes but how often do you candy store do you see candy being made oh let me do in in the yeah decades and decades old atlantic city saltwater taffy and fudge shops it's right in the front window i mean that's a feature but it's a different type you know different type like you're not there's not a bunch of people like making runts in the front of the store that's true but wasn't that's a detailed process

so you couldn't you need a factory even if they're not making it you could have like they do have the bulk candy but it's not as like overwhelming and seeing the candy here's this sums up it sugar to me i bought for my dear friend and your dear friend mike mitchell one of the big novelty boxes of sour patch kids yes and it's big and it's funny and what are you imagining i don't know if you've ever gotten that what are you imagining if you open that up i know the answer to this yes a full box overflowing overflowing or like just one big one because they sell like some just one big one one no no instead it's just a somewhat large bag of sour patch kids that's it it's just like it's so much box and nothing else it's just empty space of the box it's the most disappointing

thing to open but man how fun is that big box it's very fun how fun is it to see all those big novelty candies seeing a giant there was a giant watermelon slice made out made out of gummy yeah that would be great it was like yeah maybe i was scared of it because of because i'm scared of big things in small spaces i think i was just like it was just so thick it was like a deep dish pizza but gummy which seems like you would get in what scenario you have to like wrap that up and save it for later you're never gonna in one sitting eat right old thick two inch thick gummy slice yeah yeah to bring this back to what we talked about in my first episode when i was here

hershey park yeah those big hershey bars like now you're talking very satisfied very satisfying wonderful everything from it sugar or it sugar not so satisfying but fun my wife and i are many times when we've had like a birthday party or something that work that's coming up we've said let's get something like if we're by city walk and we know that's like happening we're like oh let's get something from for them at it sugar it'll be like a funny gift to show up with and it's kind of always disappointing no one's really ever that happy to get it uh um i uh speaking of disappointment i uh for all of you for this record bought a bag of candy there uh which was a bag of orange trumps um it it was uh the packaging explains that the flavor is

is huge it explained that it is it is made in china um There was a lot of fun going on there. And then I forgot I left it. So no Trumps. I also thought I was to get something. And then I forgot to do that. I thought so too, but I didn't. Wait. Yeah.

So you bring up my point, I guess, that I was going to make is that this is pretty close to like a Spencer's Gifts as well. And that's some of the least fun things in my mind but also fun to talk about like the the amount of like there's so if you've never been here inside in the middle is essentially the bulk candy is you what i'm talking about like a lot of gummy stuff runs you know candy covered chocolate covered stuff oh i got a lot on those that's all the bulk candy bins on the outside is like more box stuff you have your like giant novelty boxes your regular boxes of things

and then in the back toward the back like right like straight back are all of like your spencer's gag gifts and stuff and that's you know as i say as we say in the song the candy thought you can buy a candy thong and bathing suit for who. I don't know who it would be. I also thought, what if in the episode I opened my shirt and revealed I was wearing a candy bikini top? That would be funny. Yeah, but then I would have had to. You also probably would have heard it rattling around under my shirt. I forget if I hugged any of you upon seeing you tonight, but you would have heard a big crunch as our bodies pressed against each other.

You are our chief hugger. Chief little hugger. You're a Lassiter of the podcast. I don't know what that word is. I just like hugs. But anyway, I'm sure the CEO who founded his company in Atlantic City and goes by Chief Gummy Bear,

there's nothing sketchy about him there's nothing weird but here's what i'll say about it sugar it it can disappoint yes but if i go to city walk i am walking in you gotta go there's no way i don't walk in it might be my favorite retail store at city walk yeah i mean that is like you guys right, FAO Schwartz would be perfect for CityWalk. These stores that like, they might not necessarily sell a lot of stuff, but a lot of people like to window shop there. I like the bulk candy in this store. I like, you know, being able to mix and match stuff.

And like, if you don't want that much, you can just get a little. Sure. But a couple things happened when I was up there. One, I saw them open up the cabinets underneath the bulk candy are you about to ruin something for me because i have a ritual of before we go to movies i get candy and i don't want to it was it well just the magic because i'm in those bulk cabinets magic i didn't think like elves put the candy in there underneath but what are you gonna say it's gonna be so shocking it's just it's they're just filled with garbage bags of the bulk candy it's just white garbage bags white

yeah are they clear yeah like clear white clear ish what like because clear makes sense to me i like yes white grosses me out i agree kind of like cloudy like clear but you can see like if you get fruit at a supermarket yeah that kind of that's okay that's fine it was just a little garbage bag where you couldn't see that would be bad but it was just bulk and i was like how much do you want to transport them canisters barrels i think those are more dignified. That costs money. That's true. Because they can't then store it under the thing. Well, like a smaller babble. Like a pony keg.

Like a pony keg full of ruts. Okay, this might be more upsetting to you. I thought, like, I will go get one of my favorites. I always mispronounce it. Non-pareils? Yep. Like snow caps? And I went to look in the bin and the whole top level of them chalky like dark chalky chocolatey but they're dark chocolate

nonpareils and they're like really light brown and chalky like that's when you know chocolate is like chocolate keeps for a while but when it starts to get chalky you gotta toss it like that bummed me out it sounds like not a lot of people are having that candy no i mean i think it's a thing that old people like little people of me so well look i all i know if we look if we want to get right to it i'll tell you what i get when i go in okay i'll tell you my order let's hash it out uh i go in and i get one bag gummy one bag chocolate no i don't even do chocolate. I rarely do chocolate. And that's nothing against chocolate. I like chocolate now, but I go for everything I would like as a child.

I get the runts. I get the sour balls. And then I like the fact that you can get the separate things of sour balls. It's not just multi-flavored. It's the one where you can just get cherry. You can just get blueberry. And then they have a pink flavor of some pink lemonade or something and then i get the lego candies maybe my favorite of all the candies yes like because you can i don't i don't do this but you can like the real legos you can build

things with them but i do not do that i just eat them and you like the taste of them i love the taste of them i i think it is also a texture thing. I think I like a hard piece of candy in my mouth. Because you wanted to eat Legos. Because as a child, I had a fetish for eating Legos. And now I get to do it because of its sugar. Well, I put Legos in my mouth as a kid. Those are interesting to rattle around. Yeah.

So that's the type. That's the lane I'm usually in when I go to its sugar. Mm-hmm. What is your? Well, in my ideal scenario, I'm doing three bags. Have you done three bags before? Yes. Okay.

And the three bags are chocolate, gummy, sour gummy. Because you don't want them mixing. Hey, big spender. Jason has heard that you would have three bags of candy and his head is rolling with the money that you would have three bags of candy and his head is rolling with the money that you must have. You know, it's still, they don't charge you by the bag. It's just charging by the way.

Yeah. But I can afford 29 in candy rather than my standard six 54. I do gummy too. I will put gummy in, but it's usually just sour gummy. What I like with gummy. I like that. The like cherry Coke gummies. Yeah. That sugar. I I will put gummy in, but it's usually just sour gummy. What I like with gummy, I like the cherry Coke gummies with that sugar on it. I like to put those in. I like some of that stuff, but I do not like gummy without sugar around the circumference of it.

Oh, man. I've really just gotten into kind of simple gummy. Just like a big chunk of something gummy that's even like, what even? Not even gummy bears, like a gummy snake, like not not even uh gummy bears like a gummy snake like a giant snake yeah what about the sharks the blue sharks are great yeah very good i just like these gross things that are like these are like just gross gummy creations that taste like nothing that's honestly what i'm leaning towards these days don't please tell me nobody here likes the one the kinds where it's sort of gummy on the

top and then it's like a white some other stuff that's the blue shark blue shark that white flavor that's not good flavor oh yeah oh yeah maybe i think the white flavor is okay i've had a couple of those i don't dislike that it's not egregious i shouldn't bring that up like that's the worst thing but i don't know what i don't like is, which when I saw it, which I think it was only a few years ago, blew my mind, was chocolate gummy bears, which I was like, oh, whoa. They did it. You know, they flew high and touched the face of God.

And then I had it. And I said, I guess it is what it is. But I don't actually like you know what the problem with those are they're all kind of the same flavor it's not a different it's not the different flavors of gummy bears usually it's just kind of one generic it also it feels like too much chocolate not enough gummy that's fair like i don't know what they don't they did it but it doesn't taste like how i want it to taste yeah i usually go pretty i usually get like a scoop of like dark chocolate almonds and milk chocolate pretzels i think those

are so much restraint that's basically all you get no i'll get a little gummy sometime but i just like those are like i think when you're covering stuff in chocolate pretzels get milk chocolate and almonds get dark chocolate my issue with peanut butter cups can go either way my issue with it sugar is it's the same buffet thing where i will get like one or two of yes absolutely 25 candies i won't just say oh my favorite are the swedish fish and whatever and i'll get like even though maybe that's what i want i will for some reason not like i've never had these things before, I have to taste everything. I'll do that sometimes.

That I'm mildly interested in, I'm getting at least one of. Ikea, and I don't know if they're still, does the new Ikea have this, the candy? Yes, they have this candy as well, yeah. Where you just scoop it, then I had to do like two of everything to try all these weird Swedish gummies and stuff.

I'm more of a conservative when it comes to taking the candy from a sugar. I will oftentimes go only 80% candy that I know I like and then I will experiment a bit. But I don't go nuts like what you're saying. But honestly, the experiment's over because all these

I've had before. You've tasted every single candy and a sugar. Which by the way, there's a lot. And also Jason, thank you. You called me on it because I said just one of each one, but you've got to do two. Because what if you really like it? Yeah, if you really like it, it's satisfying.

Then you're going to really be kicking yourself that you don't have a second. On occasion, I will throw in one of those giant hardball pieces. I'm trying to think what they're called even. Like, they're not gobstoppers. They're not, what is it called? A jawbreaker not Gobstoppers they're not What is it called a jawbreaker But it's similar to that and it's giant And like that's maybe the weirdest

I go if I'm feeling You know I'm in a mood I will go for like The giant thing that you have to like hold in your mouth for Like 10 minutes when you experiment if you think of your bag Of candy as an episode of SNL You have your topical Your standbys at the top And then you got your topical material your standbys at the top right and and then you get your weird

1250 sketch that's mine to you is this is the weird too yes this is the big odd ball is the big odd sugar ball right yeah that's right which of course and which sex into snl uh candies at that is another yes they have you want to literally create an episode an episode of snl in your mouth they have sweaty balls edit sugar they have colon blow edit sugar what is colon blow oh that was a was that phil hartman i know he knows the sketch what is he's probably just bran flakes right uh oh let me find the picture because that would be a very weird brand cereal now that i say that that's weird because also brand flakes are like a dollar a box well that wouldn't be um no one's

ever eaten a box of novelty colon blow to me they look like um like ribbon candy it just says snack treats but i guess maybe they're just like that kind of looks like fiddle faddle it could be fiddle faddle guess who's buying some colon blow as soon as we're done see uh maybe a colon blow ain't so bad mr gummy bear jason shard what's his name chief gummy bear sorry i'm gonna call gummy bear as wade in you are chief gummy oh they have uh ambiguously gay duo which is just licorice candy because rainbow means gay i guess is that's their feeling maybe you think that's odd oh it is i mean that sketches age so well sweaty balls does make the most sense to be in here yeah you're curious you know from the sketch let's remove the double entendre letre. I think the sweaty balls sound pretty good.

From all of the description that is meant to... They are describing a very good sounding candy or dessert or whatever. But I bet those are not as good as the homemade. I would like to follow the sketch and make whatever is described. Take it as a recipe. I agree with that uh they have dick in a box um which that's like a bunch of little dicks it's a bunch of little dicks yes uh they're like gummy dicks i think um and there was one other but i can't find it um but this is this is all

in the novelty this is all in the the Spencer's gift section of the store. And I don't know if you guys saw this, but next to the SNL stuff is something called Dingleberries. And here's a picture of the box. It's a little cut off. Oh, a little poop candy. It is poop candy. And the picture is a giant cartoon butt with like brown on it and like like a piece of shit hanging out of the butt and it's called dingleberries and it's chocolate covered gummy

you're showing me if it were a full-on poop log come like kind of like with a little poof coming out of a butt that'd be less gross to me than the little like hanging off yes lake because that i don't that's like a it's just it's like a more accurate biologically type of poop and that's not right not a fun cartoon so they have that they have um this is the type of humor they find funny uh they have a coffee mug that says coffee makes me poop so there's i know you say that i know you said that in a way where you like these these people think they're funny and that but you you also kind of out of context it just sounded like a prude this is the kind of thing people think is funny that

might be more of what i'm talking about is i'm offended by this in my candy store and i would prefer if it was a cleaner thing i've never seen anyone laughing at a sugar like if all you walk into people like oh oh check this out hey hey march check this out like i don't i don't say honey get over here yeah i don't know and i don't see those scenes happening actually do you think um kevin smith witnessed the box of dingleberries and that inspired him to send his famous uh clit brown taint area tweet all those many years ago and this is a real walk there you have to really get a walk over to this of the three of you who knows what jason's i know what he's talking about i'm sorry i think this reference he's really shoehorning this probably isn't the last kevin smith reference

once we get to love it, you know. There's nothing about dingleberries in that tweet. There's nothing about it. I think it's just that picture of the butt. This is a real reach for Captain Gummy Bear. He was up there recording a cast, you know. Maybe. Some of the other stuff is there's hand sanitizer

and they have funny names on them like oops i sharted myself and this one just says my job gives me diarrhea hand sanitizer which you kind of have to appreciate yeah we just disproved it we all laughed i think that was a nervous laugh mark can you come into my office? Hey, listen, gotten some complaints about my job gives you diarrhea. Keep it in your suitcase, but don't have it floating around. What if that was an earnest plea from the person who makes novelty bathroom sprays

for its sugar? Like the chemicals they use in the factory. That was like an SOS. I hope someone helped them if so if there's a picture of a woman staring into the distance so perhaps it's her and that's the photo of the person it says the number one antibacterial for work-induced diarrhea so that's that is very very funny that's pretty good um uh so uh probably less interesting but more interesting in my interest uh a thing i noticed

the last time i was at sugar um well two things one another appearance of the knockoff butter beer the copyright free like butter glass bottle butter beer the other thing they have a freezer of ice cream novelties you know your your snicker ice cream bar your twix ice cream bar uh and that's fun because sometimes like i i don't necessarily want a whole dish ice cream bar your twix ice cream bar uh and that's fun because sometimes like i i don't necessarily want a whole dish ice cream sometimes i just want like did you say chocolate ice cream huh a dish of ice cream oh i thought you called it dish ice cream also two dollar bottles of water which at city walk prices that's a steal so if you're going into the park stop and eat sugar buy a bottle of water for the day a future a spin-off podcast

jason dishes ice cream would probably be i mean sure get off the turf now we've run afoul of your rules i don't know this hey look pretty well established your temporary tournaments are one thing we're talking about jason laying claim to a four hour weekly treat discussion podcast i'm thinking about the clonide bars in my house right now when i go home way after this flavor another nice ice cream novelties left off of the what's hussar ice cream international summer invitational whatever it's called it was called the evan ser Ice Cream Invitational. Sure.

Summer Ice Cream Invitational. Get the name fucking right. Reese's. Reese's. Huh? Reese's. Oh, whatever. You have Reese's Klondike Bars?

Yeah. I thought that sounded good. Reese's too. They are really good. It's peanut butter ice cream inside with chunks of peanut butter. Those aren't good, but they're mispronouncing it. So you'll go home and like talk to him for a little while. Hey, you.

Dance around it. Seduce it for 15 minutes. Well, what do you say we get down to it? I go to line. The last thing I had about it, Sugar, is that there is a weird trend for the sexy candy store because outside there's like school girl dressed up and there's like lollipops and there's this weird thing and there's it's not as bad there's a place that at least was in vegas i don't know if it still is but a place in vegas called lick and it was the exact same store but just called lick and it

was very it was even more sexual and i don't know why people think adults won't go into a candy store unless it's like dirty or something i feel like they're overcompensating candy is not for children it's for adults and they're horny like i think you are i think you are, in general, bothered by PG-13 words being anywhere within 500 yards of a themed attraction. It seems unnecessary is what I'm saying. I think people have fun with it. People want to express themselves. I think people have less fun with it. I think they're overestimating people's enjoyment of sex and candy,

the Marcy Playground song. No, the song is good. The concept is bad. Probably often played at Sam Goody, one of their best sellers. So everyone is against this? They all like the sex theme with candy stores? I don't know if I like it. I feel like you're offended.

It sounds like you like it. I feel like you, and you say sexy candy with a lot of disdain. Well, look, I think that you need to candy is its own thing it's no sexual connotation to it i don't think it's fun it's sugary you also want you know like hrq gob humbers yes thank you that is exactly what i want you want you want a smiley mustache man with uh lollipops for hands yes thank you that's what i want you want a smiley mustache man with uh lollipops for hands yes thank you that's what i want licorice mustache you know i said i disagree because i said i don't see people running around in it sugar being like oh this is so funny but here's what i do see right outside

it sugar all the time is a bunch of kids being like hey let hey, let's go, let's go, let's go get sugar. And then the dad is like, no. And then he sees it and he's like, uh, yeah, we'll give it a stop. I see that happen all the time. Look, Mike, sex sells, okay? It's the 21st century. Get with the time. You got something for the kids. You got to get something for daddy.

Something for daddy. Let's be honest. I know why they're doing it. I'm just lamenting the fact that it has to be this way and that I can't get Colonel Gobstopper's Emporium. A good old sweet factory. A simple name tells you what you're getting. I mean, the rumor is Toothsome is coming to the old Saddle Ranch.

But that's not a candy store. There is candy. Well, there's a confectionery. Yeah, but it's not the same candy store. Right. It's like a chocolate place. I'm fine with that. Chocolate boy likes that.

If the lawsuit doesn't, if they don't put them out of business with that lawsuit from the Wonka thing. Oh, from the Wonka thing. Or the health code violations. Or the health code. They found a bunch of cockroaches in the Orlando one. Yeah.

What if you made it a, what if you get your initials in there and you invent a character named like GBHQ Candy Lickers? Now is it? What is Candy Lickers? Lick Suckers. What does Lick Sucker look like? What does the character look like?

Describe. Is it a sexy character? Or is he just like a stodgy old man character, but his head is a gummy bear? Well, I know that's the answer you want and i like a guy i like a man with a human body and a gummy bear head oh you have to to be honest yeah and if that if that's what the chief gummy bear was then for sure if that's a if that's a ceo pick making a phone call in a suit but he has a gummy bear head um no but no in this scenario i just described a beautiful woman is it like lola bunny from space jam or is it like a sexy kind of bunny it's sugar it's it's

sugar is what it is but it's grb hq lick suck but i'm saying like how sex is it like a on flux like what level of is it heavy metal level warehouse it's just like a rabbit level no just like a girl in a bikini top like it like that's too much for me i think i think the jessica rabbit or the lola bunny i'm in for you want like a 40s yes like a pin-up yes that is what that is yes that is yes that is what i want. So you require old-timey sexuality. So you're not anti-sex, you're just into weird sex. I'm into

specific, yeah, yeah, uses of sexuality. Mike just likes things how it used to be, you know? Back in the day. Where they left things to the imagination. It was plenty tantalizing without them taking their clothes off. That's right. Just show a little leg and the leg also happens to be... I'm trying to think of a candy that looks like a leg.

The leg has varicose veins that are licorice. That's gross, but I'll be all right with that. Okay, no one wants that. The big gumball breasts. Now we're getting warmer. I'm confused about what the character looks like. We're kind of changing it as we go.

It's been a lot of things. She could be made of gummy. She could be made of candy. G.R.B.H. Cullick sucker is now a 40s woman in a Jessica Rabbit dress. But she's made of candy. She's made entirely of candy.

A candy Frankenstein. A candy Frankenstein, but she's very sexy for dad. The first day she's like out walking around torn apart. She walks around with a truck. She's a walk around character. The physics seem impossible.

She's like a sexy version of the AM PM character. A walk-around character, but then gets ripped apart by people carpooled up there from Friday Night Bod's Big Boy. You know, the Wop-Op-A-Loo-Bop rockabilly maniacs. A very Burbank-heavy episode. Very Burbank-heavy. And a candy-heavy episode. Yeah, I guess we should have known. We're very passionate about this though.

Really digging into. We love regular candy not forming a human body. And we like the other as well. Really digging into It's Sugar. We should have known that would reveal Mike's sexual pathologies. Here's something that would be fun. Because you guys talk about Los Angeles. And you talk about the theme parks a lot. lot i'm gonna throw it out to the listeners people who don't live in los angeles

i would love to see people draw maps of where they think everything is where is city walk where's disneyland where's burbank where's beverly hills where's the beach i want to know how everyone's imagining all where's disneyland you know where is how are people right in our backyard i had a very different idea before i moved uh maps are not going to be good to look at don't draw the map it's a bad idea this is just a thought exercise this is all i was i just thought that was interesting. Well, seeing what we paint as our Los Angeles, which includes no nightclub districts, no Silver Lake.

Don't forget about it. You never heard that word. But there is the Tam O'Shanter. There's no places to play sports. There's no places to exercise. There's no gyms. The LA Forum. Nope, forget it.

No, it's all Ferris wheels and uh factories of candy women that's our los angeles yeah um all right well we look forward to getting a lot of art um i yeah i we should it's a bad idea i am the maps are bored of the sexy characters that's good that's a better thing where was that well i guess it was though it's not it's i thought it was a drawing but it's actually a walk-around character so we need 3d models yeah if we can get a 3d model yeah yeah it starts as a blue sky drawing and then we 3d okay okay yeah that's good um all right we should keep we should talk probably quickly about the thing that used to be in the it sugar space which was something called the nascar speedway people would be screaming at us if we did not talk about the nascar speedway

though i you know what i looked at they did not do a good job of keeping it in the public consciousness or in google results i know that there were two nascars speeding down the facade of the store which makes it i believe at that point four cars all told in all of city walk on the outside of buildings i could be getting my count wrong but that's a lot for pure square footage how many cars are on building outsides they should have kept that i would like that so much of cars outside is one of the best things about city walk is the fact that every store should have one yeah every car yeah every source of car abercrombie one should be exploding with shirtless men yeah i agree they're all jumping out to save themselves from the crash yeah uh nest does anyone know anything about i don't know i

googled it i do saucers claimed i don't know he's joking that he has anything about it i know quite a bit about it okay he's smiling uh he could be you could uh they had cars they had nascar cars okay this isn't going anywhere inside you could get in in the car you could you could drive the car i no i was not able to find anything about it but uh i think that nascar well i agree that the ideas of the cars on the outside and all of that and the more cars the better again nascar is i wonder does that quite fit with the city walk idea of like is that la i mean it's just fun so maybe it is sure well have you guys covered this what is the governing philosophy of city walk

well it is they have like some sort of they try to pretend it's a city because they have like they had a college there at one point there's all this highfalutin stuff about like it's the los angeles that never was and always will be just like you know, putting all of kooky LA into one little space and shaking it all up and whatever. The car's flying out of the building. Who cares? Hey, that's the way we are.

Los Angeles, we improvise. It's like the U2 song in Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark about New York. It's like, all the weirdos are here tonight. This is what we do. We're the strange parts of of los angeles some might even go so far as called a simulation um does that answer your question a little bit yeah sure or was it a bunch of confusing

gobbledygook yeah which is sort of what city walk is i mean that's the philosophy of city walk anything about nascar sir no i mean well i have my memory of it is that was it like a simulator or like like sort of souped up arcade games uh sort of like that's what i because i remember walking into it once i was always afraid the cars on the building were going to fall down those two cars you were those two i like the other ones but you mean because they were pointed down well because they were yeah that's the effect they're intending to produce yeah i guess so so you would run away you would run in there because you didn't want it to be bad timing i would either run in or one run past like a house with a scary dog in the yard so you were afraid of this place

yeah i also just don't have i don't really have a take on nascar i don't really all right well we don't have to talk about anything you know what i'm going to talk about we're i think we're heading to the final thing but i i realized something that we need to add to the sector which like the final thing is uh is some of that city walk famous street art and now now you'd have to turn you'd have to go past it sugar and then look back towards the fountains in abercrack but when you do you see up on the second level bridge you see that neon sign which i'll show to you guys you know this thing and anybody who's been up to city walk it's kind of a circular design that's a neon woman and it says through these portals pass the most beautiful girls in the world

and memory number one i feel like i may have said this on the show before apologies but i i remember when i was like 13 or 14 and thinking i would never go on a date ever in my life i remember passing by that and thinking someday i'm gonna be on a date ever in my life I remember passing by that and thinking someday I'm gonna be on a date up here and I'm gonna I'm gonna point to that to the girl I'm with and say they're they're talking about you and I I don't though the for we'll get to this the first date of my whole life was at Citywide and did you do that I did not do it no I chickened out did you but you but at the time were you like i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it and then you didn't i think so oh man that's so great like going on rides yeah i think i i do kind of recall like pulse pounding now's the time

your dream is coming true you could also what planned your own life for the line and you have not done it to this day even with your wife or if if i did it to my wife it was like as sarcastic as humanly possible not about her beauty but about the the idea that you would say it but maybe i need to cut away all these layers of irony and just say what i'm feeling to my wife while you're standing under it looking up standing next to the dirty shrimp man dirty bubblegum shrimp while i hear a muffled laughter come from the inside of a shrimp suit that's funny because yeah you're mocking when you said your wife like ironically sarcastic could you imagine the late piece of shit who thinks that's a good idea but that was you yes that way yeah it's not

also like it's not really this is not a type that we know the person who says that there is no type the type was me also what kid is dreaming of my fantasy about being with a girl was not about anything sexual it was about commenting on a city walk sign while on a nice date um dear god what else was part of the city walk date in your fantasy um maybe well i i'm not sure that it was but now i want to include a playful romp through the fountains there we go pointing to the king kong sign and being like well if king kong were here he would surely want to grab you and bring you up a building. You're as beautiful as Fay Wray. You're more beautiful than Fay ever was.

T'was beauty killed the beast, babe. I feel a heart attack coming on. Please, God, I feel a heart attack coming on. I'm a very unhealthy 15-year-old. 15-year-old with a murmur. Okay, let me say some stuff about uh this sign really quickly on my way out the door before this episode i was like is there anything up with this sign there's so much more than i expected but i'll say it very fast because we've been talking for a long

time this is a sign that is a reproduction of a neon sign that was outside a place called the earl carol theater this was on let's go in la insider again this was around sunset and gower across from the palladium gulch right near gower gulch uh and it's it was it's a theater space that for a long time in the recent past has been nickelodeon studios i think like all that and i carly and uh victorious and these kinds of shows were filmed uh in this space currently on the side of an ongoing police sure sure um uh but at the time in the in the like 30s 40s 50s this was a great classic la supper club considered one of the best and outside the theater was this sign through these

portals past most beautiful girls in the world um so this was like a real this was like a part of classic hollywood nightlife was passing by this sign uh this exact center is that a recreation it was a recreation because by the time by the 60, this thing was like turning to dust, but they recreated it for CityWalk. But currently, and I didn't know this until tonight, they are restoring that theater, which on the inside still is beautiful, pristine, looks like the 30s art deco. There's footage of a KTLA news broadcast of it.

Like still like, you know, beautiful staircases and crazy statues it's like so when they get this thing tuned up this will hopefully be a new cool concert venue in la and they're going to put this sign back up so there's going to be a second too that's so crazy because that sign i've seen it does not feel authentic no it feels like made like 15 years ago to be like this looks like kind of the stuff that was around la so i'm kind of surprised to hear that well maybe the old one would have somehow felt more of the time i know what you mean it feels a little 90s so it's not original we haven't seen a picture of the actual one right um there are some you know this put it

and there's footage like from the 50s when it's hopping. But let me say also real quick, Earl Carroll, the owner of the theater, started dating one of the showgirls in one of his shows, Beryl Wallace, who is this girl. She was a real person, became the girlfriend of the owner of the theater and then in 1948 both of them died in a plane crash together a plane crash that also killed the co-founder of esquire magazine whoa there were only 48 people on the plane and one of them was a popular nightclub owner one of them owned a square magazine and the other is a famous neon girl guys i gotta leave and write my hot screenplay well i have i have a tiny bit more which is uh in 1926 during prohibition earl carroll uh was hosting a party and liquor was not allowed but as part of the entertainment he brought out a full bathtub with a naked woman in it and the bathtub was full of liquor she's bathing in the

liquor which first of all that's so funny i was like prohibition people are like they're dying for alcohol i got a bunch and there's like a naked one i was like do you have any other alcohol hey splash around in it why don't you um so but it's, you know, he's doing like a cool little private prohibition party. He thinks the guests are going to be cool with this. One of them was the editor of the New York Mirror. He ratted him out, wrote a story about it. Federal authorities subpoenaed Carroll. He denied that it happened, but there were so many witnesses,

and he was sent to jail for six months. Whoa. Yeah, for not selling liquor, but putting a lady in it and over a lady story i would lock him up for that yeah sexuality yeah wait hold on the lady was jessica rapid and then top of this story this party was held in honor of someone named Harry Kendall Thaw and quote Wikipedia in honor of Harry Kendall Thaw who 20 years earlier had murdered Stanford

White what so this was a prohibition party in honor of a murderer happy 20th anniversary of the murder you did my man wow what a crazy time women in bathtubs and jails and casual murder parties. Celebrating murderers.

Insane. And then let me fast forward all the way up to this theater, his theater that I'm talking about, which eventually became Nickelodeon Studios. But before that, in 1993, was rechristened in honor of an exciting new late night endeavor. His theater became the Chevy Chase Theater. Wow. For five and a half spectacular movies. Wow.

What a reveal at the end. How much, this is so much stuff. You're right, there is plenty for a transcript or something. What a crazy world of stuff. Also, the Jerry Lewis telethon was held there for many years. Also, we glossed over, because it turns out this sign was much more interesting, but the King Kong neon sign above is sugar.

No, that's for... Hold on, that's a main course. We didn't close by it. The King Kong. Oh, okay. I thought you wanted to go out on this. I feel like we've been caught. That's the main event. That's why I wanted this sector.

The King Kong is amazing. Here's my hot take. Better LA tourist attraction than the Walk of Fame. Absolutely. Yeah, you're right. The Walk of Fame is confusing. You don't know where it even is. You can't drive by it.

You can't take a picture of the walk of fame you can take a picture of individual stars it's confusing it's multiple michael jackson so you're at the wrong one it's like oh that's actually an old like radio broadcaster that's not the musician one it's miles long there's some very problematic people on that walk of fame destroyed our beloved president hold on um and anything really what i think people are thinking of when they think of the walk of fame is the man's theater and the handprints that is that's better that at least is at least that's more of something um but still kind of small a little disappointed yes a little disappointing also uh then this is not only i

don't mean to only trash walk of fame because i'll also talk about uh king kong and how great that is sure but uh also walk of fame people who are not out here in la don't know there are a million walk of fames there's a studio city walk of fame there's like a pasadena walk of fame there's one in palm springs there's a palm springs walk oh Fame. This area is lousy with Walk of Fame. The King Kong neon sign, on the other hand, is just like, wow, this is LA. It's a great picture. It's fun. I noticed when you guys, you had your picture announcing the teaser, and you had to have him in you had to have

kong in it's it's now we now have a logo just for the city walk saga and it's our little icon uh done in kind of a frazier nod and the king kong is hanging off of the side so it's the logo it's the teaser photo it's everything it's everything you want to say but i love i love everything about that i love that you're recognizing the Frasier influence and I love that King Kong absolutely I mean you know I think that let me just say that that logo was made by

one of the most beautiful girls in the world ever to pass through any portal there I said it could you imagine someone saying that my wife Erin is swooning right now and Mike is sweating There I said it. Could you imagine someone saying that? My wife, Erin, is swooning right now. And Mike is sweating at the thought of intimacy. I don't like this. Of a woman?

This phrase. Beautiful, a little risque, don't you think? And I just love you. It's positioned perfectly where, like we said, it's in the heart of CityWalk. So you can see it and you see it is in the heart of the city. So you can see the stores before it you see the stores after it it really feels like king kong is just in the middle of the action yes and i you know i've thought about it i've thought about like are there things you know the plus up like could he be bigger could he be like moving you know but honestly it maybe is just perfect

it's really it's really wonderful and it is like you walk in the city walk and you see king kong and you're like this is fun we're having fun it's insane how much it is to park it's also not really easy to get to city you walk It's not very much good there. But you see King Kong, and you're smiling. And it's not even a thing to do. You can't pay money to this King Kong. He's not asking for money. So sorry.

You can't pay money. You can't. It's not an attraction. You can't buy him. You can't buy him. Oddly enough, you can just look at him. You can't buy miniature versions hey hey they gotta sell those airbrush five nights at freddy's like t-shirts yeah they're

not selling t-shirts with him that's okay well they should be making more money but in this gross uh you know city walk thing where they're grasping for your dollar at every opportunity somehow this one piece of art just exists and is wonderful is this king kong just looming above us all and i you know i've never i don't know anyone who's annoyed by king Kong. No. Like, you hear a lot of different, like, points of view about everything in L.A. And, you know, like, oh, that thing that you like, that actually sucks. I've never heard anyone say King Kong at CityWalk sucks. I think you're right. Everybody likes King Kong at CityWalk.

And this is why I wanted to do the sector, because it's great. I love this passion what a what a wonderful note to go down you made me so happy to go to note to go down on it's been an honor playing with you what a wonderful note to go out on like i guess i've got a dirty mind wrapping up the episode high t you're always making dirty. You're the alpha of the podcast and you're so horny all the time. And I

we see it all appearing Susser just to loop you in a stone. We get a stone at the end of every City Walks. I think we're wrapping up, aren't we? There's nothing after King Kong. I was told this was a mini-sode. I've been hearing it for an hour and a half.

Susser, don't forget they There's nothing after King Kong. I was told this was a mini-sod. I've been here an hour and a half. Susser, don't forget they have the, there's a Santa hat for Christmas, and in the summer, you wear sunglasses and swim trunks. Right, it's great. And beyond that, I have nothing to say, and that's great and cool. Susser said it in a way that I could never say any better. Your enthusiasm made me so

happy. Thank you. That was a blast. I was a little loopy coming in guys i was coming in a little hot but i was i did have genuine passion for king kong at city well i 100 agree and the stone has appears and of course what else is it it's a little miniature king kong and he's holding a little pennant that says, congratulations on your murder. What? A murder? Is that from the bathtub woman?

From the person they were celebrating. The party. The party. The party. Yeah, it's King Kong celebrating. Because King Kong celebrates everyone. And wait a minute. His face doesn't look like King Kong's regular face. It looks like it's made out of gummy.

King Kong's got a gummy bear in it. And it's all a stone. Well, thanks, Sector Keeper. It's a wonderful stone. One of the best. And Susser, you've been a wonderful guest. Thanks, guys. You survived Podcast the Ride.

Wow. You flipped the script. That's what we do on podcasts you flip the script thanks for flipping the script on us Jimmy Chonga Jimmy Chonga we'll see you tomorrow forever

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