Podcast: The Ride - The Funtastic World of Hanna-Barbera

Episode Date: February 8, 2019

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Hi, I'm Lindsay K. Tai. And I'm Kelly Nugent, and we co-host the podcast Teen Creeps. We talk about YA pulp fiction, but this week we took a little detour to talk about the 1996 classic, The Craft. And we were joined by our movie expert, Oscar Montoya. Yes, yes. Hi, guys. Thanks for having me.

It's so fun. We covered a lot. We talked about how Ski Ulrich is hot now for some of us, but also maybe this is the last time we'll ever podcast together. We talked about what we would do if we had the power of Mademoiselle within us. We talked about the real black girl magic, which is never aging. We talked about how the scariest part of kissing someone is if you are wearing a heavy lip and the lipstick is gone after you kiss. We talked about wet pet San Pablo. We talked about Farooza Balk being truly a goddess. Legendary. So if any of that appeals to you, which it does and should and also does,

you should check us out this week on Teen Creeps right here on the Forever Dog podcast network, wherever you get your podcasts. Keep it creepy. Forever Dog. Warning. The following episode contains a mercurial casino magnate a guest crushing parade dozens of animals wearing neckties and two elderly men in sweaters playing god with their pencils yabba dabba doo it's the fantastic world of hannah barbara on podcast the ride welcome to podcast the ride the theme park podcast hosted by Mike Carlson, Scott Gairner, and Elroy Jetson himself, Jason Sheridan.

Let's get it out of the way. See, I thought you were going to go with a line about a double-decker salami and cheese sandwich. I could have done that. That's something that he's uh after in the show in the pre-show yeah in the pre-show yogi is like eyeing a guy's sandwich in the queue line you're kind of i mean it's tempting to say you have boo-boo aspects but i think i think yogi has the greater hunger so you have to merge some characters to make it work and i am a little peckish so uh i've always said to your that you're peckish i describe you as that yes yeah uh i enjoyed that

that's great okay it was i felt a little bit like blunt but i got like i was trying to be clever or something i'm like i'll just call j Elroy. Don't stop there, Mr. Barbera. Yeah, I know. Well, thanks so much, Mike, for drawing both of us before we started recording. Sure. Filling in our body and using the paintbrush that contains all of the colors. Of course. But not erasing us, because then you would get a lawsuit from the uh looney tunes

uh warner brothers animation for that gimmick you mean like you're talking about like there's that one where they draw daffy duck and then they erase the famous one i see yes the cartoon oh yeah yeah it is kind of in that zone yeah well we're talking about some gags that are in the pre-show of today's topic the funtastic world of hannah barbara yeah and i'll go ahead and tell you guys right now my all the vast majority of what i have to talk about is the pre-show i'm very pre-show focused there's yeah the pre-show is the more interesting part of the ride i was to me no but i i would agree with you because I spent a lot more time looking at that. I watched the ride itself, which is a 3D ride.

It's very universal, universal-ish in its tricks and its 3D simulator type thing. But it's fine. It's fine. Yeah. All right, everybody. We're going on a fine ride today. I got very interested in the history of of the company hannah barbara because they really saw every every iteration of animation in america like post-war i guess even

some pre-war or some during the war america but well that that's that's all news to me this will be stuff that that i don't know um but really fast before we get into all that jason you're talking about studios and lawsuits there's a big thing going on right now that i wanted to uh to address that our listeners might not know about uh a little bit less smooth of a uh an agreement than the one between universal studios and hannah barbara and i'm talking about something that's going on right now with a place called Fox World Malaysia. This is a really fun story that's fun for us to listen to,

probably not fun for the residents of Kuala Lumpur. Or an hour or so outside of it, which is where this park is being built. We're going to have to put the pause button on what exactly is going on because i think nobody's sure at this point what's going on but yeah this is a it's intended to be the first fox theme park uh in the world they've never they've licensed their properties to other things but they've never specifically made an entire Fox World. And in 2013, they set out to do so and reached out to a company called Genting, Resorts World Genting.

And the list of what they have done is very long. There's like a ton of, but it's mostly international stuff in Singapore that I they uh are mostly owned or entirely on universal in singapore um in america here in america they own the foxwoods casino and uh sure uh-huh and uh and norwegian cruises they're ultimately the parent company of sure wow um yeah but so but they're mainly like a casino entity, and their most ambitious campus is in the mountains up above Kuala Lumpur. You have to take essentially, what's the Disney thing, the Skyliner? Yeah. It's those kind of cars to get up into the mountains.

The gondola. The gondolas, yeah, yeah. To get to this magical world Of a giant casino There's indoor skiing Up there There's already an indoor theme park There called Skytropolis Which is confusing

That a sky themed Park would have a roof on it But that's what they went with They have the void there There's all kinds of crazy stuff but the crown jewel of it was to be fox world malaysia however in the last few months it has all fallen apart with a series of lawsuits that goes both ways fox v genting genting v fox and we sent we were passing this link around because of a couple pretty interesting details of what Fox is alleging.

Yeah. Feel free to say what I mean. I can say. Well, I just the Variety article has a wonderful sentence in it where it says in a counter lawsuit filed on Wednesday, Fox alleges that the project was doomed by Lim Kok Thei, the mercurial chairman of casino conglomerate Genting Malaysia Bearhead. Now, who among us has not been fooled or tricked by the mercurial Lim Kok The? They say he's been around for thousands of years, inhabiting new bodies and being reincarnated, tricking people left and right. It was just a little like I sometimes like the journalistic language of like these dry reporting articles end up with these weird turn of phrases where it's like, yes, that

is not too judgmental. That's it seems, quote unquote, objective. But like the mercurial chairman really makes him sound mischievous. The mercurial Malaysian makes him sound mischievous. The mercurial Malaysian casino chairman, Limcock Thay, you think has a ring to it that it's hard to be objective about. Right. Yeah. It's well, you know, this brings me to my bigger point, which is that we came across an article that is very much on the Fox side of things, presumably because it was in a Hollywood trade.

So they're going to take the side of the studio. And the evidence they present, admittedly, does not look good for Resorts World Genting. Some of the things that the lawsuit alleges is that there are cars on some rides with bubbling paint. It's set to open, by the way. They've pushed back the date it was going to open several times the original goal was like fall 2017 now they and then they just kept keep kicking it down the curve it was maybe looking like february 2019 clearly not going to happen uh so bubbling paint on a car is a problem uh there was a ride built without an emergency exit that's my favorite detail even though all of the plans that they had looked at

contained the emergency exit somehow they're walking around the physical space and there is not one well the bubbling paint they just call pixar peering it we allow it when it's companies we trust sure when it's they at least built emergency exit and pixar well those were the last we've never had to try one they were already there they didn't have to build new ones when are they going to plus up the emergency x they need to add garland's voice uh to the midway maniac you can do it uh they i would think that we should do an episode on emergency exit this is a certain point maybe patreon only let's hope that episode is not forced by some traumatic events that we all that we participate in that would be inappropriate let's make it our

our decision when we do the emergency exit trampoline oh no this is too real i feel like it's extremely possible yeah will star wars galaxy's edge make it a year without a death because it's not going to be a ride i don't think i don't think the ad at's gonna fall on anybody yeah the rides don't seem like they're that dangerous but the massive humanity yes very yeah yeah extremely possible will it be us could it be us uh time will tell it wouldn't be the worst way to go at least i got to see, you know, half of a fake cliff, but I didn't make it in. But and then, well, I'll save my two favorite things for last. Amazingly, this is not my favorite shitty detail.

A ride called Scratch Nutty Adventure based on Ice Age was built with visible patchwork on the mountain facade. Not Galaxy's Edge quality. No. visible patchwork on the mountain facade not galaxy's edge quality no um uh but and then also there were parade floats built that were so wide that spectators would not fit on the sidewalk it's so it's amazing this is so great and the problem was flagged apparently they said isn't that gonna be too wide? Eh, don't worry. And then they brought them in.

And they did fit down the street, yes, but without any room for anyone to stand on the street. And I think in the legal document, by the way, I read both legal documents. I'm not word for word. There's a lot of legalese in there. I'll go to law school and then be able to fully comprehend it but uh but seeing that explain that like you know uh there was no room for spectators thus defeating the purpose of a parade um i really enjoyed seeing that in a legal document but i also enjoyed imagining like look honey here comes the parade oh god no no what was do we know what the float was

I don't know I mean it's something Fox affiliated so it could have been I'm hoping okay there were going to be Things in this park Centered around the film epic An epic Features

My favorite character my favorite anime Character of the last decade the famous nimgaloo uh voiced by steven tyler oh yeah um which i may have talked about before if i haven't there's this epk that i love where he where steven tyler says like i've always wanted to be one of those animated characters i got my wish i'm i'm nimgaloo And then he scats for a while Which one was epic? I only know it Because I saw it randomly in a hotel room

Oh well the characters I watched a press conference Of the announcing Fox World Malaysia And a bunch of characters come out and a voice over Person is like please welcome Scrat from rio uh you know uh pepe i don't know who's in rio and then like and then the leaf soldiers from epic oh i do know this i forgot one of my uh things at my old job i used to have to

put uh like master archival digital copies of 20th Century Fox under multiple levels of encryption on hard drives to ship across the city. Whoa. I don't quite know why they weren't sending these digitally. But I remember Epic in a dozen different languages. If anyone found out what happened to each Leaf soldier before the events of Epic played out. So what I think maybe like the park has not opened, but there was a strong risk of a child suffocating on the Nimgaloo's big foot. So you can't open a park in those conditions and then finally the

one i actually grazed over this jason but you pointed out the best detail in the article which is the the show oh yeah that there was uh i'll just read from the legal document demonstrating how little thought it gave to the integrity of Fox's intellectual property Genting Proposed taking some of Fox's most significant Science fiction film properties Alien predator and alien Versus predator and using the Main characters in a cruise ship style

Dance show featuring a dancing Alien and predator I mean There's so many levels one That they're concerned about the quote unquote Integrity of alien And predator and alien versus I mean, there's so many levels. One, that they're concerned about the quote unquote integrity of Alien and Predator and Alien vs. Predator. We all know Alien vs. Predator. There is no film with higher integrity, more integrity per second than in anything else committed to celluloid. And the other thing, what is the phrase cruise ship style dance show?

Now, I have been on one cruise in my life actually a new norwegian cruise line cruise many many years ago thanks you um and i don't i i guess it would just be like all right we're gonna have a dance contest and maybe limbo and maybe like people join along like oh my god like a conga line with the predator with the predator i mean that's all i can think of when they say cruise ship doesn't that mean like kind of almost a review type show where it's not a full broadway production oh that's possible it's the greatest hit sort of sort of what i think but maybe i'm wrong who knows i think disney's trying to do more like full musicals on the cruises but so would have been like a history of broadway

right as done via alien xenomorph yeah yeah xenomorph says things uh we're in the money he like picks up the knit like the fit like in 42nd street picks up and like oh gosh it's a nickel and that's how they go we were in the body the xenomorph would it have sung like would it have like like because it never has a voice in the movies that's true so would they have just done a fun funny voice i bet you could fake it i bet it would start like that and then clear clear it's the road and then it's got a beautiful little slime in there. Sorry. And then... One chorus line of people.

Right at the moment, the little mouth comes out and sings, We've got a lot of what it takes to get along. Holy shit, you should be writing this. Yeah. The idea that this was going to be a bad show. No, yeah. Fox, get over over yourselves this would have been great every every it would have been viral people would have been

talking about it yeah the audience would standing ovation for the little mouth alien a predator doing the floss dance hitting the dab i mean people would have been losing their minds i got like all of this. So many of the stuff we talked about and liked and like the, the commentary we did on the parades, like so much of that has fallen by the wayside because companies are concerned about the integrity of their intellectual property. And it's so boring.

Yeah. Bullshit. I'm a big proponent of the star Wars holiday special. I wish things were that fun ever. mean does it suck yeah but it's such a blast i don't want to weigh in either way i don't hate the the new movies or the or the prequels as much as any but you know whatever i will say this i would rather watch the star wars holiday special than any of one through three or seven and eight i think that's for star wars story sure uh i don't think we'll ever have a fun star wars movie ever i don't think it'll ever happen yeah i'm damn sure if they did a holiday overlay of galaxy's edge of life day

of the wookiee holiday life people would lose their minds Like doing like just a purposefully kind of campy, like just for this we know that it's a little silly. I mean look what Spider-Verse did. Spider-Verse had fun. They put the fun on to Spider Ham. He gets to have fun. Yeah. And then

but Miles Morales can still be vaguely serious. Vaguely. They need to like find, like if there was a if just for the holidays, cantina overlay of Life Day. Of course. And it's a little like it's a little show over in the corner. Yeah, that would be wonderful. I don't know. I think Star Wars is going to have to really had it like money wise head into the toilet before we get fun stuff.

Yeah, they have to like be throwing everything at the wall yeah because that's when fun stuff happens which I have a perfect transition back to Hanna-Barbera but I don't know are we done talking about Malaysia I've got a tiny bit more yeah let's go more then I'll remind me of how good the transition would have been okay okay so we'll go

but keep going with I'm still going to give you the transition point well yeah maybe give it to me again or whatever. We'll keep talking about Fox Malaysia. Okay, well, you know, there's not much more to say other than just a couple points. It was, as I said, very one-sided, seemed like Genting's problem.

However, Genting was the first to sue Fox, and I read that legal document, and what that paints is a picture of a giant conglomerate that is not being responsive. That's not being helpful. That's not giving like style guides of characters and logos. They didn't even like send a proper 3D rendering of what the 20th century Fox, you know, the sign with the searchlights. That was going to be the big fountain at the entrance entrance they didn't send like the specs on that so it got built weird because they had deadlines to hit and they were like this is wrong well why didn't you send us anything

and they'd you know like like they'd say things like this character is too chubby or this shade of yellow is too saturated but then not provide the proper color to use instead or presiding more precise direction. If anyone listening has ever dealt with a major company of Fox level and can imagine that company being very disorganized and unhelpful, I can believe this very easily. Oh, yeah. And putting all of the blame on this place and and like noting things to there's all this stuff where they like rejected an entire attraction design because they didn't like where the ac unit went or they'd go like where are the speakers going and they were like well we don't address that till like three months down the line rejected so the park being a disaster and not

opening for many many months very very possibly due to fox like incompetence and uh and things like them saying we want a percy jackson ride and they thought of a percy jackson ride and then changed their mind and said never mind we wanted this to be an independence day ride not an easy change to make um however it would have resulted in the attraction independence day defiance hell of a ride i want that ride whatever that is well and so let me tell you then like this whole thing this is beyond just like you know as a couple attraction this is like a 25 attractions at least and about a year ago we did a whole like what if there was a fox theme park thanks to the disney

merger a lot of it was going to be there. There's alien rides. There's something called Aliens Terra Forma. There's the epic Hummingbird Flyer. There's ESD Global Defenders. You, of course, know that in the second Independence Day, ESD stands for Earth Space Defender. Yeah.

We all know that. Yeah. I watched that. I watched that movie all the way through. Oof. And yeah, it's not great. Once the giant alien starts chasing the school bus driven by Judd Hirsch around the desert. Hurry, Judd. Hurry, Judd.

As we go back to Area 51. Is that what the ride is? You're on the school bus with Judd Hirsch? I mean, could you imagine? Oh, man. There's a robot Judd Hirsch driving a bus and then you have to load onto it? the ride is you're on the school bus with judd hirsch i mean could you imagine oh man there's a robot judd hirsch driving a bus and then you have to load onto it that would be amazing and he has to keep like breaking and adjusting his glasses and popping heart medicine talking about

his son david he's very impressive he knows everything about cable i wish he was around now but we didn't get the license for him um there was a ride called big welds zeppelins you know big weld guys obviously mel brooks's carrick beloved uh uh ceo character from robots no of course you're gonna need big well there was a planet of the apes thing there was a a a big Water show called the Century City Lake Spectacular There's no lake in the real Century City What could that be based on?

Don't know the general notion Of Century City existing Being a cool name And a Night at the Museum Shooting game Like their Midway Mania was for Night at the Museum So All of this stuff was getting prepared Shooting game like their Midway mania was for night at the museum So So all of this stuff was getting prepared

And I'm sorry there's more here than I even Realized there was going to be Okay let me spell this out A ride built by the company Dynamic attractions and what this Was going to be was very much a Radiator Springs racers and it's Even in like a canyon area which

They have built there is this fully built canyon and a track on top of a hill in malaysia and it was going to have this special type of ride vehicle that can do jumps and is articulated what i'm saying is this is the donkey kong ride vehicle and it was going to open there first for a ride based on Sons of Anarchy. What? Yeah. I mean, that's not a bad idea, honestly. But yeah.

A motorcycle ride. And they built this entire canyon. This is Ice Age Mountain, like a coaster that goes in and out of the mountain. Yeah, the concept already is cool on the Ice Age thing. I would love to ride the Sons of Anarchy colon riding down this road e-ticket attraction like is that the name i don't know i'm guessing that's the first lyric of the theme song um i man that is crazy dynamic attractions not a dog like a two-bit dog and that's a real themed entertainment yeah design company this i think this park was going to be good.

It seems like claustrophobic, like it's jammed into a very small space. But there's overheads. And what's so crazy is these gondolas have been passing over the construction area for months. So anybody can get up there, take pictures of this thing. And it looks better than California Adventure did on day one. So anyway, what ends up happening is Fox is not happy with the quality of things, but Genting is blaming them. And I don't know.

I hear what they're saying. They seems like Fox was kind of difficult. And then suddenly Disney swoops in. We're buying Fox. Wait a minute. Sorry, you're building a theme park with a casino company in a casino, like next to a casino in a casino town. I don't think so, because apparently I didn't know this

Disney has a lot of problems with casinos in general and has tried to push them out of Orlando and anywhere near a Disney park yeah they're part of a massive like group in Orlando trying to keep casinos out oh really okay of Disney

and various other businesses trying to keep casinos out. Oh, really? Of Disney and various other businesses trying to keep them out. I see. Are there casinos on the Disney cruise ships? That's a question. I would have to think not. I would guess not. But most cruise ships usually do have them. Do we know why Disney is trying to keep the casinos out?

I would imagine there has to be some sort of reason of like, it's not some altruistic reason. It's probably of reason of like, it's not some altruistic reason. It's probably some reason of like, I would think optics at the very least of like Mickey mouse, like Mickey mouse on tokens or Mickey mouse. Oh, well I understand like not having a Disney casino, but I mean like just having a casinos around,

they don't have, it's not only that they don't want casinos around, they, when they bought star Wars and Lucasfilm, they got rid of all slot machines. Oh, interesting. Related to Star Wars. So they want zero crossover to this area. Okay.

I guess you're right. So maybe it's morality, quote unquote. But it's, yeah, I know. It's got to be something more. Like in Orlando's case, they just don't want the competition for people going there instead of Disney World. Right. kendo's case they just don't want the competition for people going there instead of disney world right but is it like the casinos then have to like we'll end up giving more like taxes to the local government you know what i mean isn't there something there's i feel like there's always some

secret reason of like if people swoop in all of a sudden like those people are going to be giving the government taxes and that disney will have to pay like there's something now it raises the wealth of the state and now the minimum wage goes up or uh right there's some tricky thing in there that's what my guess is but i could be wrong maybe it's just a holdover thing from years ago i think so so in order to uphold their family friendly morality they have to break billion dollar contracts and leave theme parks sit rotting on top of a mountain. So there's all this back and forth. And now what you have is a fully built, good looking theme park.

That's just like, well, I don't know. We're going to keep building it and see what happens. And it's a possibility that another company like Universal or maybe even Six Flags moves in just has like you know it's like it's like moving into a house you didn't have to pay for the construction of yeah is there a chance that it just becomes a freestyle music park oh man well tell us well or if we keep going i mean come on why maybe this is the place to launch well yeah hard rock park0. Because, yeah, you could do like, turn the Sons of Anarchy ride into the Leader of the Pack ride.

You know, I think. There's a lot of stuff. It doesn't end too well, though. We could change it. We're changing it to a happy ending. Or it's like Toad and you end up in hell. That's true. Truthfully, I'm not quite sure how Sons of Anarchy ended I've only seen like

Stray episodes here or there oh but We don't we're leader of the packs the IP Yeah your goal is to be Not the leader of the pet like you Don't want to be the one exactly yes exactly So the loot unlike creator springs Racer the loser dies but at least you get A song written about you and I

Also think with a mountain With a coaster weaving in and out of it Perfect place for Led Zeppelin the ride too Of course Because you've got all kind of In the mountains, no It's like exactly It's perfect for that

And you've already got a Zeppelin ride You just convert What's his name? Hotbot Mel Brooks' character The Brooks-a-tron Big Weld What's his name? Hotbot? Mel Brooks' character. The Brooks-a-tron. Big Weld?

Big Weld, thank you. Big Weld. That's a Zeppelin ride already. Yeah. I think it's easy. I think it's easy. Let's get Binkowski. I know Binkowski didn't buy. He wasn't responsible for freestyle music, but maybe he could put us in touch with the freestyle music.

Or no, no, wait. Binkowski? We've got to get Binkowski. What am I saying? Of course weowski we gotta get binkowski what am i saying of course we gotta get binkowski and you go and he's probably already like on top of a mountain in malaysia he's like been living in solitude for five years oh yeah meditating and like and you know perfecting his martial arts skills so he's gonna be like like excuse me are you are you john binkowski and he turns around like yeah right like the nomad who like i used to be i haven't been for a long time that name in a lifetime excuse me sir are you made of pure light yes i've been up here meditating for so long i'm just pure

energy i mean i'm gonna toss out a new generation ride uh ride because it's perplexingly such a huge hit Bohemian Rhapsody ride just based on that one scene that's been going around Twitter the last few days of like they're at a restaurant and there's just so many edits they cut to everyone talking

I know exactly what we are we're a band for outcasts and anyone who feels like an outcast goes well because we are yeah we're a band for outcasts and anyone who feels like an outcast is uh because we are outcasts ourselves what is this voice i don't this what is this oscar winning i don't know i still haven't watched it yet um so you're saying um i mean one of these probably some other mountain that is you know it's scaramooch's lair uh um i don't know who's considered the villain of the song bohemian rhapsody that's a good question uh um but you you know you meet all of them uh uh and you do and there's a dance show where you learn how to do the fandango well it's a cruise ship

style conga line and then you are turned around and given a mic stand and you have to do the Live Aid performance. Remember, you haven't played together in many years, although that's not true. Now go. Maybe, okay, instead of Alien vs. Predator, how about Freddie Mercury, not Freddie the villain, Freddie

Mercury vs. the villainous music executive Ray Foster is played by Mike Myers not a real person who existed in real life oh man really there's fictional people in this too have you seen the whole movie no no I haven't

it's a composite character to be fair to the movie based on generally the idea of a bad executive that could exist on the real head of their bad executive. Based on a bad executive that could exist. Based partially on the real head of their record label and based partially on Chairman Lim Cockthay, who also found time in the same way. Mercurial.

Oh, wow. You know, very mercurial. Freddie, I would say. You know, every time there's some funny business in the theme park world and there's plenty of funny business in the domestic parks, the American parks. I try not to to, you know, I try to be cognizant of like a Western worldview. And it's like, look, not every theme park outside of America is a scam. There has been a number of scams that said the big announcement recently about lions gate opening in asia park and i i meant to tweet this out recently have we seen any updates

on that times square lions gate thing from our very first episode i don't know so it seems like lions gate asia further along than a lions gate times square so this is the type of i think i said this on our text chain i said this is the type of project i imagine we could have a shot at designing something maybe not this level but something overseas with some properties like just some very rich person like is fooled into somebody else by getting us and then we just design the whole park and the whole thing falls apart very quickly. Maybe like literally it opens and all the walls just collapse.

It's like they didn't hire any engineers. They just hired us. And then they like fly us out and we're like, Oh great. We'll supervise the engineers. And they're like, no, it's you three.

You're building it. Like something weird like that. I do feel like that's possible where we get hired to do something. Sure. Yeah. Well, that's what I said. There was another a smaller indoor thing that the Marvel theme thing that fell apart in Thailand.

And it seemed to mostly be like one or two simulators and then a large shop and some very, very poorly made statues. But it cost a lot to get into. Essentially essentially you had to pay essentially to get it you were essentially paying to go into a large store but a significant amount of money based on like this is what the average resident of thailand makes in a day you you had to pay that to get into this glorified shopping experience there's something there they're like well it fell apart we don't know what happened and everyone else is like yeah we we know what happened sure there's something weirder about the foreign ones or that the universal uh dubai where they built only the gates and then none of the rest so it's just a field with the universal okay so there's some

pretty funny yeah this is all episode said down the line like all of the bizarre collapses um but you know yeah not all of them are like they even the fox lawsuit mentions how we trusted this place genting because they did a pretty good job with universal singapore it's fairly well regarded um so what happened here so genti again we don't know exactly no but genting did a good job it's but Ganty did a good job. It's not necessarily, maybe they did a good job. But on the flip side, you talk about us building the place. According to this thing, buildings would get built like many feet taller than the facade that they were stored in. So that makes me feel like, let us add it.

So yeah, I think we could build this thing well it seemed like they also too were kind of hearkening back to the original disney method of like build it it doesn't work okay scrap it rebuild it like a little more finding it on your feet yeah with construction that's kind of a weird thing to say it's really weird because it seems like there are several buildings in this park that were fully built they had complaints there i tear it all down the disney does still disney like tries to repurpose a building instead of rebuilding it from scratch that's so weird yeah how they have the money to just and there's a lot the lawsuits that are going around are all like they're in the billion dollar territory this is so much money we're talking about um so next don't make this mistake again any other studio call ptr construction us

yeah i mean we've heard we've we get some rumblings we get some emails that you know some imagine your types uh listen to the show um but do any very rich saudi princes listen to the show do any head do any mercurial leaders listen to the show if they if that if that's you and you want your own theme park and you want it to be designed by some real experts contact us at podcast the ride at gmail.com our official email address subject line i am a nigerian billionaire i'm interested in helping you with your endeavors. I have 30 million dollars in a bank account for you. PTR, come to Brazil.

Help us build Bolsonaro land. All right. Now we'll let the offers slide in. All right. Let's open every email on all of our computers. Yeah. Viruses be damned Mike that transition That was 20 minutes ago but I was going to say DJ run this back

We were talking about how Star Wars wasn't going to be fun Until it tanked The Hanna-Barbera characters are in this spot Right now where they haven't Been used in interesting ways Or no excuse me they just haven't been used in a while In any like big media So they've been used in interesting ways. Or no, excuse me. They just haven't been used in a while in any big media. So they've been used in interesting ways in the comics. We talked a little bit about this.

Oh, yeah. Because you had a copy of something that caught my eye on your table. It was a graphic novel where Snagglepuss is a gay playwright. And he's like a very like kind of. Truman Capote type. Truman Capote type. And like Huckleberry Hound is gay in it. And he's like a very like kind of Truman Capote type. And like Huckleberry Hound is gay in it. And he's like his good friend.

And it's like a very heavy. It's a real. It sounds like, you know, Snagglepuss. You think it's going to be fun and silly, but it's a very heavy story. It's good. There's a cool. I haven't read it, but I suppose a cool Flintstones thing that I think Tom King wrote. Yeah.

There's a rough and ready comic where it's like the sunshine boys where they're like getting back together uh they were the stars of an old tv show and they're getting back together even though they kind of hate each other uh which i didn't realize rough and ready was the original hannah barbara tv show uh reading about this oh yeah oh interesting so yeah so hannah barbera is in that spot right now where like they haven't been used. There isn't like a big Hanna-Barbera movie in the last so many years. No.

Yeah. So let's have some fun with them absolutely. Yeah why not. Loosen those reins. I would love to take a crack at it. I was a big Hanna-Barbera kid because they made I mean it's like 50 years this company making cartoons and like the rise of cable tv um i feel like the hannah barbara stuff was just in syndication all

the time yeah until it kind of all got vacuumed up by uh turner and used as the backbone to start Cartoon Network because like the Hanna-Barbera cartoons were like the main stuff on Cartoon Network and even I believe helped Cartoon Network start to make their own original stuff like Johnny Bravo and everything let's just for in case there's kids listening that might not even know

what Hanna-Barbera is let's list some of the main properties I mean their first thing they created Tom and Jerry. Is that right? Is that right? Yeah. That's how they made their name, making the Tom and Jerry cartoons for like 12 years. So it wasn't their company, but their...

No, they were making them for one of the studios. I forget whether it was MGM or Paramount. I didn't... So they were making it for one of the... They were making all this stuff and then struck out on their own with a third guy. Gotcha. To start their own company.

Ah. Now, the interesting thing is there, the budget for like the average Tom and Jerry short was about $35,000, I was reading. To make a five minute rough and ready, maybe the Tom and Jerry shorts were like seven minutes, five minute rough and ready short. Their budget was $3,000. So they, that's,

they, they kind of got known for the, the limited animation style where it's like a cell. You would only be animating like the top half of top cat or snaggle puss, but the bottom half would be stationary maybe people aren't walking if they don't have to walk if we're doing they i feel like i associate hannah barbara with the the chasing that repeats the hallway yeah scooby-doo thing um what's rough and ready rough and ready when they uh it was a cat and a dog yeah they were like I don't have a Oh that's a tiny picture

If you can see that I'm so far away from it It's comically small That's the one on Wikipedia What am I going to do here I mean It's a cat and a dog Cat and a dog I mean the big Warner Brothers

Things Flintstones The first prime time cartoon The Jetsons, another primetime cartoon. Huckleberry Hound. Huckleberry Hound. They did a lot of... This didn't dawn on me until reading about it. They had these longer length shows.

And then they had other shows where it was like three shorts packaged together. That's a good... Because I don't always know. Obviously, there was the Flintstones and the Jetsons. Yeah. But a lot of these other characters, I don't know where they live and how they existed and were even the characters in

the ride, Dick Dastardly and Muttley, I wasn't exactly sure how they factored in. So, some of these things were... They were from Wacky Racers? Wacky racers but i they would just start churning out like stuff once the saturday morning cartoon boom started like hannah barbara was just churning out characters and shows it's crazy because if i just like we've mentioned the big ones but like if these name mcgilla gorilla, Johnny Quest, they had a Laurel and Hardy show.

They were a space ghost. They had Birdman. They had Shazam, which is like a genie man who I think is the model for Robert Smigel's Shazam cartoon. Oh, yes. That's my favorite.

Where he beats up. They did a Fantastic Four cartoon. They did Wacky Races. They did the Smurfs. The Smurfs, originally a Belgian comic adapted Fantastic Four cartoon. They did Wacky Races. They did the Smurfs. The Smurfs, originally a Belgian comic adapted into a cartoon by Hanna-Barbera. They did Laverne and Shirley in the Army. What? And Fonzie, the Fonzie and the Happy Days Gang cartoon.

And they did Partridge Family 2200 AD. Hold on. What? We should go it was overwhelming reading everything Hanna-Barbera made a tiny graphic I'm gonna show you Scott but it's obviously Jetsons with the Partridge family

cartoon like wow insane also possibly the impetus for another Smigel one that I love Lady Smith Black Mambazo in outer space in the top 10 of Smigel one that i love lady smith black mombozzo and addersberg in the top 10 of smigel yeah um yeah there's there's a even in the 90s i didn't realize they did swat cats they did swat cats they would play swat cats uh commercials in the line for the funtastic world of how to

barbara ride and swat cats was just like a ninja turtle ripoff, like biker mice from Mars or just anthropomorphic animals. But they were like tough guys, animals. Huh. Also worth mentioning the studio. If you're in the Los Angeles area, I don't remember which building, if it is the literal L.A. Fitness at the bottom of the hill on on Barham, like below Universal Studios. But like right under Universal Studios if either it's the LA Fitness or like the adjacent buildings the buildings are there but it's not Ana Barbera and hasn't been for a long time but like yeah they were they were

next door neighbors of Universal Studios and they're in and the buildings around there are very like 60s mod so you can't imagine this is where the Jetsons was made or whatever. Okay. Yeah. The Wikipedia page for Hanna-Barbera had a picture of the studio building in, like, 2007 and mentioned it was in the Coanga Pass. It might have still been at that point. Yeah.

I'm not totally sure. It looked really neat. And it's crazy that... And they were there for a long time until they got absorbed into whatever Turner entity. Yeah, I don't know where they ended up. Hanna-Barbera owned for many years by Taft Communications. They came up on the Kings Island episode. Oh, that's right, which is why they were featured. That was their first theme park featuring was in Kings Island.

And then Taft got bought by Turner, and then Turner got bought by Time Warner. It kind of gets murky in the 90s. They trade hands a lot, and their theme park history changes

a lot, which is why it's, you know, the fantastic world of hannah barbarianza being their like primary theme park entry they exist in all there's a bunch of odd little rides but this is probably the most concerted and there's a lot of bizarre like flintstones is all over the map and there's this flintstones park somewhere that just closed yes but this one's this is probably oddly the main way the flintstones exist in theme park worlds even though they're only only a third of the ride is the flintstones i really i wish it also maybe account for the very possibly people do not know this ride and i wouldn't blame them

because it's been closed since yeah i didn't know it was under something uh 2002 it was it was open a lot longer than i thought it opened it was an open day universal orlando attraction the kids attraction in addition to et and the nickelodeon studios and it it closed in 2002 so it was there 1990 to 2002 it's like 12 years and that's also about how long uh the jimmy neutron ride that replaced it lasted about 11 okay years or so gotcha a long time yeah yeah it's it's i did not know it existed i never went to universal when i was young so i'm not kidding it was yeah wow i love this ride yeah it's pretty large to me and i probably wasn't willing to go on everything there.

And I was probably scared of some of the things I did. I think the first time I went, I did not brave Jaws. Or maybe it wasn't open yet. Or it was in that period where it was closed. But yeah, this was an opening day attraction. One that worked for kids. And as the Defunctland episode about it really pushes. One of the only rides that had no problems opening day of Universal Studios because all of their major attractions were big old disasters.

Because they were all attempting all these things mechanically that were probably outside the realm of possibilities for the industry at the time. And this thing was like it kind of helped the park through the rough first couple months couple months because it was it was fine it was the one you didn't have to worry about yeah um i i read a little about this in that that um disney versus universal sam genoway book uh i here's a from it he says uh peter alexander came up with the idea of a motion theater in a conversation with bar Upson, Alexander said, you know, these theme park attractions don't make any sense. It's like every time you want to change out and put a new television show on, you have to buy a new television.

Let's see. He continued, yeah, change out some of the props and we would have something new so like this was like an early if not the first motion theater ride and like sure enough when it was time to change out this for another ride it took them less

than six months to swap out Jimmy Neutron for Hanna-Barbera oh no kidding so the full history of this space at universal studios started as hannah barbara became jimmy neutron and today is despicable me minion mayhem uh which one day we will get to in uh seven parts uh nine parts we'll uh we'll determine that at a later time but the uh but if you go on that so this santa barbara ride we're talking about never made it to hollywood yeah um but the despicable me ride did so if you've been on that

but not any of the rest of what we're talking about you may know that as opposed to star tours where you're in a cabin of a of a simulator uh this one is like a big theater with a lot of little cars uh which is how that's how the Despicable Me ride is. And that's how this Hanna-Barbera one was. So instead of the whole theater moves all at once, it's like benches and like two or four. I'm not sure how it works exactly. Are the seats the same or have they changed? Like, is it the same basic configuration?

I think same basic configuration. I'm sure they've changed the vehicles over the years and they certainly changed the aesthetic but it seems like the modular nature of it like if one of those benches goes down if one of those uh ride vehicles goes down they just put a tarp over it you just don't go in that one oh yeah good so i can see why this did work so well you're saying opening day because it's like well it was built to be modular it was clearly built to be simple very like yeah very mechanically friendly

and also and mom friendly because there was if you didn't want to get shaken around if you have a problem with motion sickness they have benches that don't move so you could just sit up in the front of the bed I think it was in the front You could just sit and watch the movie and not get shaken

Around which I remember my mom doing My mom and little brother definitely sat on some Benches at some theme park rides Sure I was going to say it's mom friendly Because my mom goes on still to this Day about how good the Hanna-Barbera cartoons Were those are like her favorite cartoons Okay she loves Top Cat she

Loves McGillilla gorilla she's she she'll tell you about it she'll tell you about top cat for we got a big dvd set of top cat a couple years ago loves it now i'm not sure i've ever seen one second of top cat top cat is fun i like top cat yeah my mom was also uh she said she was physically she was attracted to one of the cats on top Cat when she was young. One of the supporting cast members? Yeah, not Top Cat himself. Not Top Cat. But I forget which one it is.

I can look it up. He had a whole gang of cats because they were all like kind of cool cats. Like they were all like they were up to mischief. They wouldn't do anything like real dangerous, but they would mess with some cops. Well, I think Hanna-Barbara has some attractive characters throughout because obviously uh uh daphne and uh oh yeah and scooby doo sure and i think hey you know what i think those guys are lookers as well uh what's fred hey fred's a classic all-american lunkhead uh prom king uh and and i'll say this i think the i guess i'm not like specifically super attracted

to judy jetson but i think judy jetson is like a well rendered character and the and the i'm a big fan of the jetsons movie oh yeah i was gonna say i like that too about the devastation of mining ore for sprockets yeah that's right that's a dark movie oh yeah and it kind of does and it's sort of like dealing with the natives or whatever like those creatures who it's actually robbed i forget the mechanics of how it works but yeah the first isn't the first thing that they move their house up from the pollution is that right remember there is a shot yeah it's not the start of them i haven't seen in many many years but isn't that it's not really commented on that much but isn't that what it is yeah one of the first shots in the movie they just rise above any smock because they're on that weird house oh okay i remember i i don't know if i've

ever put that together before right now huh huh now that is that movie was coming out around the time this ride was opening so there was what we what we would now call synergy uh that was happening and i'm wondering if they thought like well this is the start of a hannah barbara filmed renaissance because like flintstone maybe flintstones was in the works i mean it was probably for sure in the works yeah at least yeah though if maybe as a live action thing instead feature length tom and jerry movie came a few years later, which I remember seeing in theaters and liking as a kid. I have zero memory of that.

Did I see that? Probably, but I don't, I'll be honest with you, never a big Tom and Jerry fan. Didn't care for it as a kid. I find them sort of unpleasant for some reason. Yeah. And the movie, I feel like they didn't really, they just, it was, and now here's a big Tom and Jerry cartoon. It wasn't really like elevated.

And they talk, I mean, they talked in the cartoon later or the newer cartoon as well. Yeah. I think that's right. But it's like, it clearly were like, well, what are we going to do? Like these were short cartoons where they would just beat each other up. Uh huh. Uh huh. And then they're like, well, I guess they talk now.

And I think that nothing, nothing ever really grabbed me about it. I used to, and here's why I was extra mad at it think that nothing, nothing ever really grabbed me about it. I used to. And here's why I was extra mad at it. It would air right before Ninja Turtles. Oh, oh, God, be done. So you're resenting anything that's not. So there's an extra level of frustration I think of when I think of Tom and Jerry. Did you guys? I think I knew TV schedules.

I think I could tell what time it was by what was on TV. Like before I could tell time on a watch face, I could go like, well, it's about 1030 because the Muppet Babies are on and that'll be on again at two. Yeah, I remember patterns like that. And I definitely remember that Ren and Stimpy was on at 11 on Saturdays and I have to go help my dad like sweep up outside. And I was always eyeing that clock. Like I better be in by 11.

Right. Um, and I think Rugrats, I think it was Rugrats 10, Doug 1030 or maybe flip those. Oh yes. Yeah. Which again, what, like what a run. Those three in a row. Those three in a row. The original Nick Toons. what a run those three in a row original original nick tunes i would remember two and i i can't

pinpoint exactly what but i would remember the blocks of commercials would air in the same order and i'm like i don't like this commercial but there's a toy commercial coming up i'm very fond of and there would be with the right oh maybe i I know what you're saying I do know what you're saying I think there would be yeah I think they would like play stuff yeah in a row no I that does seem familiar now that you say that for like X-Men toys or Batman or Toxic

Avenger so I was really obsessed with the Toxic Avenger toys based on the short lived cartoon did you like the cartoon I like the cartoon too but the toys were very toys still look good very you like the cartoon i like the cartoon too but the toys were very toys still look good very detailed did you have the toys yeah okay do you remember any of the carrot because i'm not i know nothing of the toxic event i don't remember any of their names okay but i remember being a little grossed out by it a little gross yeah can i can i say again going back to a uh a sort of

like heartthrob hannah barbaric yeah please i would like to shout out the uh the object of judy jetson's affection in the jetsons movie of course blue the space rock star uh which in general i've i feel like i've caught that people had like childhood crushes on apollo blue and in general the all the like the songs from the jetsons movie i think are fantastic it's these there's this one especially that i think because tiffany the pop star oh yeah the voice of judy they would have recorded the actual woman janet waldo who voiced uh judy and then kicked her out of the movie Because they thought they could sell more tickets With Tiffany so Tiffany did songs

And that's good so they got that But Tiffany also then had to speak And her I don't I'm not Sure puberty had finished Because her voice is cracking the whole It's like her voice is really Annoying in the movie it's really Strange how old was Tiffany when she

Was putting out songs not sure very young Really I don't think I ever realized that Young enough to for her To get a lot of horrifying stalkers And a documentary about those Stalkers gonna think we're alone now That plot in the movie is based on An old episode of the Jetsons I think

Oh It's like my mom's favorite Jetsons episode Which I will, she'll tell you all about Judy is obsessed with a singer named jet screamer. And it's a very similar kind of a thing where like, and I think my mom liked it so much. Cause like,

I think she identified with Judy and being obsessed with like rock and roll men. So this was sort of a Bobby Sherman stand in. I don't know what style jet screamer was but he was uh can we see this tiny graphic i sure can't and no one at home can see it at all you can see it even worse than me tiny photos those jet screamer pinups you're after i'm getting bad luck with the pictures um but i just like this this one music video that's like Judy and Apollo Blue falling in love is so fucking awesome. They like turn into like cubist paintings and like and like a like like constellations form.

And then it turns into their into their face. It's like it's so rad. I name checked it when I was pitching Moonbeam City. Like I wanted to look like the Jetsons movie. I really like the Jetsons movie aesthetically. And to bring it back to the ride, one thing that I like is that it's an early combo of 2D characters and 3D environments. And it's pretty dated, but not horrifically so you can just tell it's from an era uh from a bygone era but it's like not uh it's kind of cool and i think the ride's that way too i like it yeah because the 2d animation

looks like classic hannah barbara uh 2d animation and then the cgi environments are very basic and stylized and kind of caricature-y but it's not trying to be realistic it's not trying to be photo realistic it's just trying to be cartoony and like uh sort of like the it reminded me almost of that a little later but that video game vector man just a bunch of ball you you were a man but he was just made up of different balls and you could change shapes and it was just like very simplistic cgi i was impressed because i was watching it and i was like if somebody said this was made in 2000 i would have been like oh yeah of course like i wouldn't have like doubted the the technology but like 90 is pretty impressive like for it to look

like that which again it's early work from rhythm and hughes with a major like a cgi studio i i'm i'm confused on my history i just know they became a major operation in the 90s i don't know what they did well i i wrote down rhythm and hughes too because ramon hughes just a few years ago was kind of infamous because they did like award-winning work on the life of pie movie oh that was them that was them and as the movie was winning all these awards Rhythm and Hughes went under. Wow. So like they're winning Oscars and

like people are like getting severance checks and packing up boxes. That sucks. Horrible oh my god that's terrible well gee well hey great we're everything from Life of Pi to the Jetsons part of the ride. Good work.

Well, yeah. I also really like the I like the Scooby Doo zone. And it reminds me of when you go into the castle part of the ride, it feels very much like Bowser's Castle or like a Mario Kart level. Yeah, it's it's really neat and i also now while you you can tell something's up like the 2d characters don't blend perfectly with the 3d like it does feel like one thing laid on top of the other however you got a 3d ship spinning all around and your camera view is changing and uh and bending and everything to animate the perspective of these characters and

particularly uh mutley and uh what dick dastardly like that they're like you're tracking them flying around just like the perspective that these 2d animators had to keep in mind many of whom went on to work for don bluth not long after this. I don't know. I'm just like, I'm very impressed by the, like, people might look up this riot and go, this looks stupid. What are they talking about? But for the era.

For 1990. For 1990. And Sylvan Bluth company working on this. Oh, okay. Working on this. Some of them came, they were in Ireland, i think at that point it was saying and then some of the animators came to burbank to work on this while the rest stayed in ireland to work on the dreaded rockadoodle oh no and maybe that other the thing dinosaur in central park one of their other things troll in central park i think i saw in their credits something

like that there was a movie called the troll in central park they were making like two other movies at the time we're back a dinosaur story maybe it was we're back these are weird yeah these are there's a whole genre almost of well hannibal barbara was doing some of these kind of kids lost kids movies too and yeah company yeah um weird time and you can't like i feel like some of these things like you knew that they were uh bombs you know people did not like these movies today i feel like the pr machine for every in my mind there has not been a bombed kids cartoon in two decades because you're like getting screamed about that you're getting screamed at about them so much i'm like i don't know how much if you ask me how much did small

foot make i don't know probably a 1.2 billion dollars i have no idea i don't know what was a hit or what wasn't a hit was rango a hit a problem no idea maybe that one wasn't let's assume it was yeah if it was if it's a cartoon from the last 20 years It was a gigantic hit And you also hear all these stats Every movie that comes out is like That's like 7 times Jurassic Park Is it? How could that be?

But it's not $94 It's Maybe There's cheats I'm pining for those days back when movies could eat shit. Back in my day, there were unpleasant movies that scared young Jason and young Scott and young Mike

and they lost money and people got fired. Yeah, people should be fired. What am I nostalgic for? So it was a troll in Central Park. Some of Bluestine stayed in Dublin and some of them to work on Rock-A-Dadoodle and a troll in central park so uh-huh don bluthman's he bopped around a lot he was at disney he made his own

company that company went under he made another company and then i think he went to start the fox animation that weird video game too oh dragon dragon's lair yeah i think so i could never figure out how to play that I would put a quarter in and I was just like What it's a cartoon I feel like I was confused too It was like one of those weird Sega CD games Or something

Or like that Scotty Pippin basketball game Where like it was so impossible To play like it was like a video It was video of Scotty Pippin And it just obviously didn't work It it was like a video it was video of Scottie Pippen and it just obviously didn't work like it was just like a strategy based game or a turn based basketball game with Scottie Pippen

every now and then my mom would order a Nintendo game off QVC or the home shopping network and it would just be befuddling like I'd be like what is this game and it'd be like a puzzle thing or I feel like there was a matchbox one that we had to send back because it would stop working after the first level nothing frustrated me more

because i always put the blame on myself this is my fault yeah you're not smart scott you're fucking up any a better kid could outsmart this game. That sucks. Maybe a lot of these games were impenetrable. Yeah, I think there was a lot of garbage back. I mean, there's still a lot of garbage games, but yeah, I think. Yeah, you would rent a game from the store and you would know nothing about it. Maybe Nintendo Power had a blurb, but it would be just the controls were horrible. Stuck in a corner on the James Bond Jr. video game. Not even a tenth of the way through the first level, and then you're just stuck

with it all weekend. I feel like Nintendo 64 is the first system where we're self-aware enough to know that this game is bad. It's not your fault. Yeah. It's because this game is poorly made. Like, Superman, this famous one, Superman 64, Mission Impossible at Nintendo 64. Like, famously bad games. Oh, that game was 64. Mission Impossible at Nintendo 60. Famously bad games.

Oh, that game was fun. Mission Impossible? Yeah, I beat that a bunch of times. Oh, Jason, Mission Impossible is horrible. Stop bragging! We were so excited for Goldeneye and Mission Impossible. Goldeneye came out first and then Mission Impossible kept getting delayed.

And Mission Impossible blew. It was so bad. It was very close to the movie, which is like a terse potboiler. And not exactly filled with video game-like-esque scenes. It's a noir game. It's just about mood and pacing. You could do nothing in that game. You changed costumes a lot.

GoldenEye, you could shoot a scientist in the head you could go in different cool places you could really like have a lot of freedom in mission impossible like you had one gun you had one gun you couldn't you like turn around and you could barely do anything the whole idea was you're supposed to sneak places and like you would you couldn't do it wasn't no but you could do the break-ins. You did do the wire scene. Yeah, but that wasn't fun either. It was fun. I'm going to get this game and you're going to play it now. We're going to play

Goldeneye and Mission Impossible. It's not even a contest. It's not even the same level. I just hope you enjoy it. That's the most unfair thing you just proposed. We're going to play what everyone, the game everyone agrees is the best of the era and then this thing you're talking about. We'll just play Mission Impossible.

It's garbage. It's horrible. GoldenEye might still be the gold standard for me. Because I, I mean, I had the, all the Bond games that came out after that too. The other GoldenEye game and like, The World Is Not Enough video game. Oh yeah.

Very similar to GoldenEye, but it was, it wasn't as good, but it was more detailed. So it was like, oh, look, you can see him reloading. I can get a dirty used copy of Nintendo 64's Mission Impossible for $4.70 with free shipping. Oh, we could Twitch that. We could Twitch that game. Sure we could. Yeah, we could. Is that theme park related maybe tangentially

paramount park will have a mission boss there's gonna be mission impossible ride soon i think also that would be cool then we've been waiting long enough all right so well i'll look into the cheapest maybe that's not the cheapest way i can get either I can find a cheaper one than 420 Let's get back to The fantastic world of Hanna-Barbera And I Would like to start talking about This my beloved pre-show I don't think I knew how much

I liked it until re-watching it It's such a blast So you get You get into a line Where you're watching Hanna Anna Barbera clips. And what was that one? The Cats show. No, crazy.

Oh, Swat Cats. Swat Cats. You're watching Swat Cats clips. And you're starting to wonder, well, how are these dazzling cartoons made? That's what I'm here to find out. Because my entire day universal studios florida is about finding out how movies are made this is i'm trying to just do like an educational museum trip and then the real things from the movies keep interrupting yeah my knowledge uh very

frustrating obviously but maybe this one will be different i'm gonna learn how cartoons are made it's very on point with the early universal uh premise of like ride the movie learn how this stuff is made learn then ride learn some more uh so you get into i don't remember what the room was like but it was sort of like i feel like there was like a rocket i don't it was like It's an odd cartoony room. But so you meet Yogi who wants to eat a sandwich. He's eyeing a sandwich. And Boo Boo reminds him that these people aren't just here to see him eat a sandwich. They're here to learn about how cartoons are made. And he's like, oh, really?

Also, I was very Yogi voice. Not great. Not the classic, I think, what's his dog's butler did Yogi, and he had just died and was replaced. Some of the Jetsons people died. Mel Blanc. Mel Blanc had just died, too. And I was immediately, when I was listening to the video, I was like, that's not Yogi. Yeah, yeah.

No, it was a latter day Yogi. But you do, I was going to say, you do get a couple original voices in this. You get Gene Vanderpill, who played Wilma and Rosie, the robot, and you get Casey Kasem. Yep. Who did it up until a few years before he died. Wow. Really? Yeah.

Oh, he was still, and it's him in taking Matthew Lillard to task in the commissary in the famous scene in looney tunes back in action which i i say just because i only learned about it like a month ago and i find it very funny that they did that wow looney tunes landed the matthew lillard cameo hell yeah um uh also uh not the original dick dastardly sadly there's There's a guy named Michael Bell who's like a prolific voice actor, but only was Dick Dastardly in this. I didn't know Dick Dastardly was Paul Winchell, the voice of the time. Oh, I missed that. That's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Great voice actor. Only on this podcast will somebody go, yeah, did you know he was Paul Winchell? And I'd be like, whoa, that's awesome. Holy shit. Wow. Paul Winchell. I got one more in this area too um in this ride uh it's an early performance of uh jeff bergman as fred flintstone jeff bergman's a guy who like does a ton of the voices now he's like one of those uh like cory burton in the

disney world who uh does pitch perfect versions of the original, you know, the voices from the forties through the seventies and beyond. Yeah. Like Billy West with Looney Tunes. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. This guy also was bugs. I don't know why it's Billy West sometimes and Jeff Bergman sometimes. Yeah. I'm wondering, I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. Um,

but he's Fred Flintstone in this and the, when he started taking over the beloved voices maybe the first one that he he jumped on was jeff bergman took over as the pillsbury dough boy for paul freeze did you know that the ghost host in the haunted mansion did know that pillsbury dough boy i think i went on went down the rabbit hole a couple years ago and was like, oh yeah, wow. That's crazy. I don't hear that at all. Yeah, I don't. He does have a couple voices that are way out

there because he's Ludwig von Drake too, which I would never have thought was the same as a ghost host. So like he does have some range there. Also Thurl being Tony the Tiger blew my mind. Yeah. Thurl Ravenscroft being Tony the Tiger. So like these guys would go back and forth between doing, like, these Disney jobs and then cereal.

Yeah, I guess a lot of them are cereal. And I think Paul Freese was the Toucan. It was Toucan Sam, maybe, too. Oh, that sounds right. But that was... Don't quote me on that. I'm not totally sure. Can I try something real quick?

Yeah. Ooh, you're a Cardinian. Oh, no, I fucked it up already That was going to be that Pillsbury Doughboy doing The ghost toast dialogue Oh try it again Your carnivorous pallor betrays An aura for moaning

Nothing says loving I have been doing This is a whole thing with Lindsay and I For years I've been doing this voice But she goes he's very cloying. He sounds like... Nothing says loving like... Well, we know what this sounds like.

This is Olaf. Well, it does sound like Olaf. Yeah, it's basically... I have like four moves. Is his room actually stretching? I'm a bad snowman. Nothing says loving so alright I just had to do the oohing and aahing about these

voice names so we had to get it out but anyway so Yogi realizes he needs we need to get back we need to get on track we gotta learn how cartoons are made cause he doesn't know how emanation is made he like fucks it up so

it is pretty funny it goes out of his way yeah to say it wrong yeah yogi's funny and so he turns it over to a different monitor where we're introduced to Hannah and Barbera themselves old men in sweaters and

Oxford shirts and this is like I don't say this lightly, pretty neck and neck with Michael Eisner in terms of like wonderfully lovable stilted acting from people who are not on camera very often. Right. I love anything like this. And these theme parks obviously are full of this.

They're close to Spielberg you know what you got the E.T. adventure right down the street I've been underrating this Hanna-Barbera video for a long time excellent pre-show they're both like 80 they're they I think one of them died at 95 and the other died at 92 no one of them died in like

2001 yeah no I know I mean their ages they died at 95 yeah yeah No kidding. But yeah, you're right. 2006 or 2002 as well. And they were connected to the company that shared their name pretty much, I feel like, until they died. Like some stuff, like the one who was still alive was given a creative consultant credit

on the Tom and Jerry movie. So, I don't know that they were like hands-on with everything but for a company that was sold to like two or three different major communications concerns like they never walked away they never walked away yeah huh wow uh well and they were hands-on on this thing obviously and appearing in it and so when it cuts to them they are as heads of an animation studio want to do they are surrounded by their characters uh of fred and barney and scooby-doo and george and george and uh wait who's the jane george and jane judson jane his wife jane his wife and uh and they are all it's this weird angle because you're looking at

fred and barney from behind and they're all waiting for orders from their creators and they're being told like okay fred you get it they need you on stage four all right george and jane remember to take your scripts this time as a precocious child I thought that was very funny like this is not the first time like I'm sure there's Looney Tunes stuff where they're sitting around in a break room waiting for something to do but I always like the joke of like the cartoon characters going to a soundstage to work like they were actors yes all sitting around a trailer checking yeah checking their phones doing their taxes and they don't speak they just lovingly wait and listen and then just dopey fred and barney just turn around and walk away okay and then once the characters have been cleared out

they start talking to us uh and they're very warm and reminiscing about the wonderful times making cartoons. And they're looking at the story. But while they tell you how cartoons are made, cartoons are a series of drawings all done in rapid order to make it look like it's moving. And then they show us first. It starts with the storyboards. Oh, remember that old villain Dick Dastardly? I sure do. I guess to remind you of who Dick Dastardly is,

because Wacky Racers was 20 years ago. I'm still not even sure. Well, there was a new Wacky Race. It's Wacky Races, right? Races. Isn't it Wacky Races? It might be races, but I always called them the Wacky Racers because they were the race

i don't know if i could be wrong i remember there was a newer one a couple years ago like a couple years ago like around the 90s time might have been a couple years after i remember there were 3d cartoons in the morning at like 7 a.m and i remember because i had to set a tape for it and i think there was a new yogi bear and it was 3D and you had to get your glasses off a cereal box. Now, that was definitely a thing that like Fox Kids or Warner Brothers kids would program like 8 to noon. But then there would also be cartoons from 7 to 8. And I always like to try and I would always miss them. But if I was up really early, I would see them.

And it was always something weird. It was like, yeah, Wacky Racers 2.0 or some shit. Yeah, there was like new so kids should have kind of known who Dick Dastardly is he wasn't the most popular character I think he shows up in the one where they steal the spruce

moose what is that they steal a plane and they meet a bunch of other cartoon characters am I crazy Dick Dastardly kind of a go-to for like, if there's a crossover, he would be the bad guy. He would be the bad guy. He's like Loki in the first Avengers or something.

He crosses over. Oh, he straddles the worlds. Absolutely. Yeah. So, yeah, they're reintroducing Dick Dastardly, but he had been around or he was going to be around soon. I don't know. It's interesting.

They're taking no chances. I understand. People come from out of the country. They don't know dick dastardly like just in his mustache and his look he's got a um snidely whiplash quality yeah he is sort of looks exactly my mind he just looks like snidely whiplash it's the same design and he's kind of a pre-wario like a real gangly uh i passed a certain point like tall characters are fine but the ganglier you get you're probably a villain if you're short and stout you're a villain maybe like mutley wario is still short and stout morris waluigi is ganglier yeah yeah yeah so these are

the original wario and waluigi essentially and then they're deciding how to demonstrate uh the process of animation which is many drawings put together and how do they do it by drawing elroy jetson and which they do and he comes to life on the piece of paper and is alive as fred and barney already were thus negating the information the cartoons or many drawings put together so they have uh overturned well either you do lots of drawings and you photograph them rapidly or you create a living being and fred and barney are alive today and they were just in the room but elroy uh is it does not exist until we make him exist they're like i don't know now he exists

and now he can walk around there we have a living boy in the pages don't forget my anti-gravity backpack oh look at him go there he's got the personality that we all know but well right once you draw a cartoon they're only alive for for seven months and then you got to shoot them and start anew. In seven months, they start to feel pain. It's like the end of the prestige. You run them through the prestige machine. You got a pile of Elroy Jetsons. Piles of Elroys.

You got to buy all these tanks to keep them in. The last Elroy has to murder the new Elroy has to murder the previous Elroy. All right. Hop to it, Elroy. Blast him with your jetpack. Shoot your flames onto your clone. So to backtrack, they set out to draw Elroy Jetson. Let's draw Elroy Jetson.

Great. It'll be easy. We've been animating the Jetson since 1962. I like them assessing that it will be easy to do it. Like, what should we draw, Bill? A new character? No, that'll be hard. Draw the 28-year-old one.

Remember back then when our friends Fred and Barney were still hocking cigarettes in between commercial breaks? Those were the days. Those were the days. Now we gotta leave it to other characters to teach kids how to smoke. I'd kill to draw Joe Camel, my favorite

cartoon character. It destroys me. We didn't make him up. We've been at, we, okay. We've been at it since 1962. Has it really been that long? It sure has.

Yep. But it has all been fun. It sure has. They have now said three times within 30 seconds. I sure do. It sure has. it sure has it sure has these delightful old timers so much sure they're so sure that's the thing when you get to be that age you are so sure they're not we you we're all wracked with doubt at all times but these guys are so sure they know is there ever a pre-show with

two older guys in it i don't think so this people at theme park anywhere well what if they're dead like hitch hitch was in his but not custom not original maybe uh charlton heston hosted earthquake ride i don't think he was older though yeah i don't think he was older, though. No, I don't think he was older. It sure has been a fun ride. I sure did torture Janet Leigh. I drove her to insanity. The sexual harassment fun. It sure was.

I sure did harass many. So, anyway, they draw elroy he's alive before he has a body he requests his jet pack as jason's or his anti-gravity uh backpack backpack i think yeah cool uh which he doesn't really use i thought that was gonna be like a check Chekhov's gun thing. It's like, that's how he'll get away. Oh, yeah. They're setting up nothing there, huh? Nope. They sure are. They sure are. It sure doesn't pay off. So then they explain that animation is also done via computers these days.

And which, once again, they present a fact and then illustrate the opposite of that fact. Right. Which is that, like, why computers do the animation today. Let me show you. Then one of them has magic in his finger, fires the magic into the corner and creates a big weird space computer. In fact, Elroy says it's the spaciest.

And then the computer draws Dick Dastardly's ship. In 3D. In 3D. In 3D. But then 2D Dick Dastardly pops out of it. Yes. Correct. But you get mix-ups like that when you shoot magic out of your finger. Well, sure.

So he comes to life. He says that he's tired of being called old Dick Dastardly. And he requests to be the star of the next Hanna-Barbera. Star of the next project. Project. Kind of a TV show, short subject doesn't matter. Educational thing. Kind of a big ask.

Yeah, absolutely. Not unreasonable. You don't just demand to be the star of things, especially if you're more of a character actor. Right. And they correct him right away and they say you can't Elroy's next followed by Fred Flintstone

and then the other one then Scooby Doo and they kind of were right Jetsons movie then live action Flintstones and eventually live action Scooby Doo it goes in the order I don't know that that is how they intended i have a feeling that if the jetsons movie was like a huge huge hit we would have seen

hannah barbara feature movies like that yeah yeah yeah in the cartoon like the style the new updated version of their style version theatrical because it was a theatrical release yeah yeah i believe i saw it at the mall i talked about on a past episode with the waterfall oh yeah nice what a day i think i saw that one in the i know i had that and the ducktales movie on vhs and so i have a lot of affection for those because i could just watch them over and over again those are good ones for sure wow well let's make a video let's make like a weird youtube conspiracy video where they point out how this predicts the order of the

of all the movies coming out and that somehow something in the hannibal bear ride also predicted 9-11 so uh scooby look scooby doo we'd love to we'd love to break rank, but Scooby-Doo's next. And he is not satisfied with this answer, so he kidnaps Elroy and takes him into a swirling vortex. Dick Dastardly and Muttly come to life and kidnap, abduct a child. They abduct a child who they don't know. I don't think. They've never interacted before. Like, there are some interactions in this ride. Like, George Jetson knows Yogi.

Right. But Yogi and Boo Boo don't seem to know Scooby and Shaggy. Well, it depends on if they've been summoned to the same, like, taking of orders meeting by Hannah and Barbera. So, Flintstones meets the Jetsons, which we have to briefly mention at least, was a couple of years before this. I think that's right. The other, the Yogi Bear thing I was thinking of was called Yogi Bear and the Magical Flight of the Spruce Goose.

Oh, wow. The Spruce Moose was a big plane in Tailspin, another show I liked a lot. Right. But the Spruce Goose is the real plane. This is the real plane. Where you stayed on the Queen Mary. This was a 1987 animated made-for-TV film produced for syndication as part of the Hanna-Barbera Superstars 10 series.

So, again, they were just churning stuff out for syndication. This show featured Yogi Berra, the Flint flintstones the jetsons scooby-doo huckleberry hound and top cat wow damn now all stars but just a-listers in this ride just scooby and the flintstones and the jetsons and yogi and boo-boo all right all right fred you're next then scooby-doo then the partridge family from the year 2060 then secret squirrel and laverne and shirley in the army then the wonder twins then apollo blue uh space age rock star uh hannah barbara also i think we may have mentioned earlier responsible for like not just the backbone of of cartoon network the early backboat of adult swim space goes coast to coast the brack show sea lab um and a very limited animation on a

lot of those shows a lot of archival animation that they just redubbed but it's so it shows you how i feel like the original intent was let's design some characters who are cool and compelling to look at because we will not be animating them too much and that ethos made it into obviously space goes coast to coast and some of those other shows and they are it's a real credit to that the designs are good because that's all you're looking at yeah well and a lot of that credit goes to alex toff uh oh yeah author toth the renowned t-o-t-h t-o-t-h renowned uh comics artist and designer for hannah barbara really did a lot of work and uh widely regarded as like one of the best draftsmen in in american comics it is funny because space coast does look cool absolutely oh yeah him just

him smiling when it just cuts back and forth between silent shots on Space Coast. It's fantastic. Yeah, really funny. So anyway, look, there's a pecking order. Dastardly breaks it and kidnaps a child and they go into a vortex and then the computer machine explodes. A computer that was created by Hanna-Barbera out of thin air five seconds ago. Then it's sparking and lighting the room on fire they react to the explosion for so long because it has to cover i love it yogi dialogue

i pause just of them like reacting to obviously like nothing and it's just so funny oh please look it up if you don't know this my god the highlight is when is it hannah is that the dark haired one uh-huh the way he trots out of the room yes this like cartoon like jaunt to get out of the room yeah

if you know what that sounds imagine that sound but visualize yeah really funny but i think that's funny on purpose i think that's him like let me get out of here he's having fun doing that it's really fun and I really like Stooges thing they invented a machine that caught on fire and

then in their own office and then they say let's get out of here they just abandon the they burn the place for insurance money we spend so much time with them I really wish they Just went on the ride with us

That's the problem The only problem I can see with it Is setting them up so hard in the early part of it Wow we're going fast We sure are Wow I feel like we've been traveling At 15 miles an hour We sure are

But that'll be easy that's there's much more difficult speeds than that there sure are oh what a what a ride that would last an extra decade like statler and waldorf oh yeah and i also want suited characters walk around of them oh man and one to tell me like boy boy scott you're a handsome young lad. You sure are. Keep working on your drafting skills kid. If Lucille Ball is still walking around they should have

Hanna and Barbaro walking around. Yeah. We gotta repopularize them as characters. Were they like are there other instances of them like doing this thing? Because I think they would introduce stuff every now and then. I don't have much of a memory of the two of them like introing stuff on VHSs or DVDs.

And I think the memory would have lingered because as we've established in many episodes of this podcast, I care about that stuff way more than the actual movies. Much more. Much, much more. Yeah. So I would have thought i would have remembered these like kindly old men just like elroy's dads elroy's two dads like i think i would remember that but i don't i feel like there was not that much of them doing this but i could totally be wrong they introduced me to the concept that there could be two dads

this is how i learned yeah yes and they they made me an open-minded very progressive yeah so now you enter the ride and you know what you guys take it from here because who cares i'm like it's kind of yeah i mean it's the fun is kind of the real fun is over the real fun of watching two old men two sweater explaining basic emanation concepts I mean you go you get well this is a I always thought this was a funny like you know what he's boo boo says like what's our how do we power this thing

like what's our source energy like and he makes up some you know anti-matter rocket fuelers on them Yogi goes a big old rubber band boo boo buddy and it is like you are put in a slingshot and it shot out like i thought that was really funny i like that yes big old rubber band i have a question where is yogi during this you hear his voice he's commenting and you're on one of 60 rockets inside a room so where's yogogi well I think the logic is you are in one

rocket you are in specifically the rocket from the outside of the building oh which Yogi is in which Yogi is in so you're in the rocket with Yogi this was really I do not remember these giant children

sitting in this horrifying marquee yeah they're scary Is that me Is that what I look like These mannequin dolls That were just on the outside of The universe That's you and your childhood crush Scott That girl

That girl She's kind of a looker And then these A-listers The Hanna-Barbera A-listers They're um George, Scooby, Fred, Yogi Boo Boo Most of whom have ties

Most of whom have ties Hanna-Barbera's characters were professional That's what I like at the end of the day George clocked in to a job McGillicuddy had a tie too didn't he Yes This was a period where people respected each other George clocked in to a job. McGillicudrilla had a tie too, didn't he? Yes. Hey, this was a period where people respected

each other and dressed right. Did Top Cat have a tie as well? I think he had a collar. He had a collar. He had a hat. He certainly had a hat. Back when people wore hats. They had a collars only policy in their cartoons. You didn't get also a mark against Dick Dastardly.

Sorry, Top Cat only had a vest. Still pretty sharp. A waistcoat, a purple waistcoat. Pants they don't care about. In fact, no Anna Barbera characters wear pants. But as long as your shirt is nice. One of his friends had like a kind of

a makeshift tie. One of his gang. Huckleberry Hound, respected law man was he a policeman he was a sheriff wasn't he oh huckleberry hound had a bow tie wow yeah he had a bow tie uh but then sometimes he would wild out as el cabang right that was his alter ego when he would hit people with his guitar that is right this is very interesting to me hannah barbara and ties um yeah i'm looking at a big picture i don't think had a tie they also did the banana splits cartoon uh yeah so they did so i mean yeah

a deep dive hannah barbara here i'm looking uh smurfs oh it looks like they did a richie rich cartoon they did one of the richie richie riffs richie rich revivals el cabal is just a um that is just a soro oh okay oh wait okay what i'm i just went to a website called now i know.com having googled hannah barbara ties and this is a time and money saving trick because as this says think about how your torso arms legs change when your expression changes when your face is smiling the rest of your body reacts or if you're like turning to look at something and like a lot of the difficulty of animation is the boring like middle parts so this was like a way around having to have their head do the same thing as their body the tie is a reset point interesting so it's it helped with the limited animation i guess so interesting because there's like there's a dog on here with

has like a neckerchief snagglepuss has a little bow tie. Wally Gator has the collar. That's what you were thinking. And let's talk females. Wilma has pearls. Jane has a big triangle on her neck. Everyone has something on their neck. Yes. And doesn't Daphne have a little neckerchief as well?

I think so. Maybe Velma as well. Sorry, El Cabong was not Huckleberry Hound's alter ego. I think it was a horse. Oh, but no, what was the horse's real name? The horse was also a cowboy. Oh, man. There's so many Hanna-Barbera characters.

People are going to be pissed. People have probably been so mad this whole time we were talking. But I'm correcting myself in real time about the thousands of Hanna-Barbera characters that are out there. There's a lot to keep straight. I think it was smart of them though to just stick to the big ones for the ride. Because I think kids now in King's Dominion and the Virginia Paramount Park, like you

could meet, I think Top Cat was Pink Panther not Pink Panther. Yeah, Pink Panther? Is he Anabarbera? Is he Anabarbera? Oh, I don't know about that. If you were mad before, you're really mad now. But Huckleberry Hound was definitely walking around.

Oh, and Kong Fu Louie, right? No, no, no, no, no. Kong Kong Fooey. Kong Kong Fooey. What did you just call him? Kong Fong Louie. It was Kong, first of all. Kong Fong Louie. Kong Foo Louie. Oh was Kong, first of all. Hong Fong Louie.

Kong Fu Louie. Oh, okay. Is what you said. Oh, okay. Which is a thing, too, where you say, instead of Kung Fu, you always say Kong Fu for some reason. I don't know where I got that. Hong Kong Fooey, I liked watching as a kid, but now I'm realizing there's got to be something

problematic about it. Oh, yeah. But it was like Scatman Carr scamming carothers i think doing his voice i think all representations of asians and asian americans in carts in all media of the 20th century is fine let's say there's no need to relitigate anything i'm sure if you go back there's not a bunch of bizarre uh wardrobe and teeth it's all fine marvel comics famously i just learned this recently because marvel comics announced they're doing a shang chi the master of kung fu movie so you said kung fu again i think it's fine let's just we're not if we stop every time i say it um

so but what they wanted to make was the carrot they wanted the comic rights to the caridin uh tv show oh that was very popular in the 70s they kung fu yeah they could not they could not attain those rights but what was affordable was the rights to the character fu manchu so they created a new character named shang chi who was the hero son of fu manchu and often fe it with his father so Marvel he's making like Shang-Chi has stuck around and has been on the Avengers and the comics and stuff so Marvel

is making a movie out of a character that dates back to like I don't know let's make the Carradine people don't want to do it to see we can get Fu Manchu and then well it's his kid and he's good at karate a copyright workaround yes character huh as we have learned the ties are neck workarounds

yes apparently the heart one of the hardest things to draw is a neck so i've learned i guess yeah if you're like an aspiring animator of hand-drawn animation uh just put a tie on the character make it make it easier on you and the people overseas that'll be animated or a pearl necklace or like uh might be some prince art in your apartment a big prince uh ruffle collar oh yeah that would be great yeah it doesn't have to be a tie but just something on the neck an ascot and yeah if you're also if you want to look sharp when you go out wear any of these things quick draw mcgraw was the horse cowboy oh yeah yeah so many characters and unbelievable it is crazy how many characters they have yeah If you want to look sharp when you go out, wear any of these things. Quick Draw McGraw was the horse cowboy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So many characters.

Unbelievable. It is crazy how many characters they have. Yeah. Like, the library is pretty insane. But some of them, like, writing about Hanna-Barbera, pretty open of, like, all the animation studios were just stealing from each other at the time. So, like... And everything's based on old movies.

Yeah, and everything's based on old... Okay. The rubber band launches you... Launches you... Into the world of the Flintstones. Into bedrock. like and everything's based on old movies yeah and everything's based on old um okay the rubber band launches you launches you into the world of the bedrock you avoid it there's a elephant slips around let me say this as soon as we got into like this area and this will be like in the first like couple seconds of the ride i really got a pod racer vibe An episode one pod racer vibe From this thing Because it's sort of dirt and canyon Like a Tatooine

Before you get to full bedrock It's like a little Tatooine-ish And you're in kind of a little pod racer I think that this ride In general has some Pre Some qualities Of the Simpsons ride Before the Simpsons ride yes that there is that it's a

chase of a villain i guess as is the back to the future right ride uh and that there's weird it's a world that you know as 2d but rendered as 3d uh and i find it equally exciting uh just on some base level that you're you're on a ride and getting a grand vista and as in the simpsons ride when the when you're hearing the the real theme or the kind of the glow of the simpsons and you're you're gonna fly into springfield uh similar to hearing the big flintstones theme which is a wonderful theme uh and you're entering bed right i think that's that's actually exciting moment yeah because also you're kind of doing it theme uh and you're entering bedrock i think that's that's actually exciting moment yeah because also you're kind of doing it's similar what you're saying the simpsons is

like you get to go up the dinosaur i hope everyone knows what we're taught like how our listeners are young but maybe known this weird stuff like the opening of the flintstones it's like fred's leaving work and you're like now we're gonna start explaining i know i'm just like trying to think everything is available out every you can find most of shit on youtube uploaded legally the flintstones i don't want to be like i'm not talking down let me throw this out there because i'm sure disney plus will pave the way for the disney like short back catalog of all the mickey cartoons and silly symphony stuff do any of the streaming services have the hannah barbara library up uh it's a good question i don't know uh does warner brothers have i mean cartoon network has some version of

it but i don't think there's a big one in the night there was cartoon network and there was boomerang and that's where they later put a lot of the older cartoons on the boomerang channel and then i think boomerang is now an app with like some archive stuff there's something called vrv now now where the flintstones live we're gonna ride to bring them back isn't that where some cso stuff landed yeah some anime stuff there's anime on there there's cartoon network stuff on there it's very confusing everything's you can't i don't know where the hell you watch anything anymore. And that's why nobody sees anything anymore, as opposed to all these shows that were just on all the time. And if you didn't grow up with Flintstones and Yogi Bear just on, you might not know about them.

I don't disagree, Mike, with your premise. You might have to explain the Flintstones. But we also operate from a world where, you know, everyone, we assume our listeners know the names of every bear in the country. Yeah, that's fair. Sometimes I get out and I start to think like, what if just a random person walked by the apartment right now and listened to what we were saying? Would they know we're speaking? And then I like start to go, oh, we should fill them in. But it's like, what are we

even? Why would I even bother? What did your friend Newman say to us? There's a girlfriend said that it's that she listened to the podcast and that it was as if this is like listening to a movie podcast where you have no idea what movies are. Right. Yeah.

You have to be acquainted to movies in general. Uh, it looks like you can watch 24 seasons, 332 episodes of the Flintstones on boomerang. Oh, okay. Boomerang might be the way to go. So if you're so ranked is yabba dabba doomerang. Yeah. Yabba dabba do is a phrase that is yelled when the clock goes off and Fred has to, Fred is leaving work.

Yeah, he's a construction worker. But the clock is a bird. Mm-hmm. Yes. Just to catch everybody up. The animals also have jobs. The animals have jobs and you run into some The animals also have jobs. The animals have jobs and you run into some of the animals with

jobs. And they're resigned that it is a living. Yes. But yeah, they don't leave though. They don't leave. And actually this brings me to something I was going to say about the not to jump around too much, but at the end of this ride, you go into this little room

of interactive games that's themed to some of the places that you've been like bedrock and uh space city where do they live where are the jetsons i don't know the name of the jets it's not as memorable as space rock just was like an itinerant wanderer so you were just in a spooky graveyard and then a spooky castle yeah yeah yeah a haunted amusement park which we're already in an amusement park so that's supposed to be a haunted amusement park not that one not the one in the ride but that's just

common where they are and hanging out with Dick Van Dyke and the castle that big castle that you go into looks a little like Cinderella castle oh you think it's maybe a little dig maybe it's a little I think Castle. Oh, you think it's maybe a little dig? Maybe it's a little. I think it might be. But the stones are black. Yes. I see what you're

saying. I can see that. Now, I look, I'm entering into 90s stand-up territory if I break down too much logic of the Flintstones animals and their jobs. However, I would like to point out specifically that in the thing after this there's a keyboard

that you jump around on like big and when you step on the keys a different bird squawks a note and there's a video where they squawk the flintstones theme wah wah wah wah wah wah it's awful it is awful to listen to and that's like a coordinated song being played by this bird organ let alone just the clap trap a bunch of kids stepping on it I'm gonna go ahead and say I think maybe the worst place to work in

1990s oh yeah studios must have been anywhere near this fucking bird organ but all right all the flintstone animal jobs don't make sense but in this case there's nine birds and they all have to wait for a key to be stepped on and they have to hit a note and they can't do any other note because or else the thing won't work and this is how music was made in flintstone times and then recorded onto a different stone which was put on a turntable and played by a different bird by a bird's beak which i think

they did once an episode they got a lot of mileage out of that gag the bird beak on the record on the record yeah i believe so maybe maybe seven times uh yeah and what the what always disturbed me is that the the animals were always like aware of this horrible existence they it's a living joke when like they would dump garbage in the bird's mouth like wasn't that what they would do they'd like dump their garbage in their bird's mouth and go you know it's all living and he'd look over at you or like the one isn't it like it's like a is it a hippo or a dinosaur where Fred punches his time card it when he's leaving I forget I think in the movie it's a hippo

yeah chunk and it's like they're all like they're all self-aware and they can talk but they're like just my job is to bite time cards eat garbage and eat garbage which to be fair what the cavemen are eating at that time is probably close to garbage

yeah that's true so it's probably okay it's not like highly concentrated sugars or anything it's probably stuff from the land at the very least and once again like with the paradox of goofy and pluto where goofy is their friend and speaks but pluto also a dog is that they own. It's similar where Dino can't speak, so he's like a dog. However, probably has a better situation because he doesn't have to work. Oh, yeah. Yeah, as opposed to Fred's bulldozer he operates that is a brontosaurus. But his car is just a car. His car, yeah, yeah.

I mean, they have to run they that's where they get a taste of their own medicine and have to make it function themselves if you were a dinosaur who could speak and move things and build objects why wouldn't you just build a better big world for dinosaurs to live in yeah keep humans out yeah it doesn't make any sense also it doesn't make sense why their car isn't a dinosaur yeah that's true because like a bus is a elephant probably i think i think there's a bus elephant in this ride can we agree the settings of the jetsons and scooby-doo do not have the level of detail that bedrock does like bedrock i feel like a living breathing place the jetsons living situation interesting yeah but i don't remember i always remember they always had lots of gadgets that would serve their needs but george was always fucking up like he would try to do a treadmill and

it would go too fast and he would eat shit. Yeah. Yeah. He's like any of our parents dealing with tech. Yeah. Except Rosie. Rosie was good at her job. Rosie is tech. She is tech. But she's also an employee technically. That is true. Kind of one of the family like Alice. Rosie is

Alice for sure. Yeah. It's a very similar dynamic. And she's kind of like the to go in further back the character hazel oh sort of like a maid with attitude she almost she kind of sounds like hazel they were just stealing from each other this is what they did this is what we did in the old days we stole from each other yeah but yeah but you end up up, the ride ends in Space Rock. The ride ends in Space Rock. I mean, the Scooby-Doo segment is fun.

There's not as, like I said, not as much of a living, breathing world like Bedrock. And also, it's just Scooby and Shaggy. Yeah, none of the other. No Fred, Velma, or Daphne. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Disappointment if you like eye candy. Or Scrappy-Doo. velma or daphne yeah yeah yeah disappointment if you like eye candy or scrappy do uh yeah sadly and no great gazoo no great certainly no great from the flintstones

yeah also all alternate people who could have been mad like dick dastardly that that's maybe a plus up yeah all of the left out characters and all of the fan disliked characters all team up together and kidnap a different child that's fantastic world what was dick dastardly's end game abducting that child uh holding him hostage to be the star of the next project contract until he got like a sag contract yeah it was to give us he was holding out for sag minimum yeah he wants like 920 dollars yeah sure it is crazy kazoo would have been perfect for this ride because he can make any he's like q on star trek he can like make anything happen so like you could really like because this is is as fine as this ride is it's it's pretty by the

numbers maybe it's because we've sort of seen versions better now after 25 years. That may be true, yeah. Like, at the time, it might have been, oh, cool, we're now in this land, and we're in this. But, like, it's very, like, okay, now we're in a very sort of boring version of bedrock. And, okay, now we're here. And there's nothing, like, no surprises, no fun. Story-wise, yeah. You go through, like, this haunted house and graveyard and Scooby and Shag are there,

and then you get transported to the future somehow or to space, whatever it is. The whole time, Gazoo equipping and transporting you to places and, like, changing you into different things. The real hero of this ride, though, is Rosie. Rosie has an extendable arm, and she plucks Dick Dastardly and Muttley out of the car. Oh, yeah. And that lets George catch Elroy and then she puts him back in the car. And then they plow into an amusement park ride vehicle and that are surrounded by police. Boy, we got to just synopsize the basics of the ride more often because, man, what a story.

And Dick Dastardly ends up with a wig on his head. Boy what a rough run for him. Yeah. He looks silly at the end. He looks so silly with that wig. The Jetson scene I think visually is very like there's a lot of moving pieces in the Jetson scene. Yeah and then that future amusement park is cool though is that a thing

from the Jetsons? I don't know. Or do they have to kind of manufacture a new place they would go to anything in like it's a gym but the future it's a restaurant but the future so i'm sure there was like the state fair but the future judy went to an amusement park with jet screamer like that has to have happened in that episode i don't know i'll call my mother constantly going on dates that's's fine. What's wrong with that? Jet screamer one day, Apollo blue another. You sound like her dad or something. Well, I just, when is she getting her school

work done? She's fine. She's got straight A's. I thought Elroy was the smart one. Who said Judy wasn't? Judy was smart too. I mean, I guess they were both, I mean, they, well, let's hope they got Jane's genes and not too many of george she was george was george had a good heart wasn't the brightest one yeah that's true

always making spacely uh mr spacely mad well that spacely uh he was a tyrant yeah it's true he was yeah he was like uh uh elon musk or bezos sir like some like a howard schultz kind of dumb ass schultz sure michael bloomberg spacely was there ever a spacely for president that would have been a good oh i wonder yeah i yeah and like a predictive like that would like this move this thing that was going around of this Old TV show that predicted Trump And the character's name was Trump And he swindled a town Like if there was a Spacely episode

That predicted everything Beat by beat What is that called there's a dark Andy Griffith movie oh yeah it's like that too Is that right Yeah I think so yeah yeah I've seen that Did you do I didn't know this do you know mr spacely's full name nope i don't cosmo g spacely oh i feel like now i'm mad i know

yeah cosmo space of course god damn it and then the other character was mr cogswell who owned the other company who i think was nicer. Remember this guy? There's a tiny graphic for you guys to look at. Remember this guy? I do remember Cogswell. He was always smiling. Yeah, he was not like Mr. Spacely, who was a true asshole. Spacely and Slate are like the same guys.

Yes, 100% the same guy. Mr. Slate was Fred's boss. What an interesting construct that was. It is still in entertainment where it's like, well, if you work in this industry, there's your boss. What an interesting construct that was and it is still in entertainment where it's like well if you work in this industry there's your boss and then there's the rival company. Like there was always a Pepsi Coke situation.

This implied that anyone works for a company or has the luxury of working for a company and staying there for more than nine months. We're recording this amidst massive layoffs massive media you wish any of these buzzfeeds had just the clean simple there's a mean man like slate but hey i've been here for 25 years yeah not bad work if you can get it yeah yeah

boy everybody should be jealous of uh fred fred. Good, honest living. It's a living. That's what's going to happen to our generation. We're all going to have to start working as record players for richer people. Oh, no. We're going to have to buy records with our teeth. Someone's going to put garbage in my mouth for $8 an hour. You're going to be working for Howard Schultz. I'm going to be full of garb of howard

schultz's garbage i'm gonna be drawn in and out of being for a rich man's amusement that sounds fun yeah you got a good job because i start to learn pain at seven months and then i'm erased and you have to kill the other one nothing that's right so will you really be you because you're a copy of a copy of a copy of you yeah and mike when you you'll eat garbage and say it's a living but it won't be as fun as in the cartoon like you'll try to say it it's and you'll just cough blood because the tin can scraped up your throat um it's not as fun as in the cartoon uh can i say a thing i liked the ending in this ride when like yogi lands on like a big cushion that says the end he seems like visibly winded

i'm happy for him he can get comfy thanks for joining me here like he's just like so he's kind of out of it like it's like oh i like that it's this took a this did a number on it he's gonna go rest are you upset that it's a thread left hanging did a number on it he's gonna go rest are you upset that it's a thread left hanging that you don't know whether or not he got the sandwich well i'm just happy he's freed from the the tyrant ranger smith like ranger smith was his spacely kind of kind of yeah quite the same dynamic because he was always trying to chase him out of the jellystone national park yeah i mean i i guess Yogi wasn't supposed to be eating those picnic baskets. Right.

No, he was stealing. But that ranger was just like a joyless man. If they were, I don't, I didn't see the new Yogi Bear, which is a couple of years old. Did anyone see that? The movie? Yeah. Oh, it's good. It's the voices of Dan Aykroyd and Justin Timberlake.

Yes. It's so good. It's really good. No, I don't know. That movie's sick, man. Could it be? Does he still steal picnic baskets? Because I feel like that would be a modern studio note of like, he can't steal the baskets

because that makes Yogi a thief, but he could steal the baskets and give to the poor. We have to root for, why are we rooting for Yogi? It's theft. What he's committing is theft. Yogi is committing theft. Well, the ranger is Ed, right? Isn't it the guy who played Ed? He's the character Ed.

Yes, from the show Ed. From the show Ed. And then, of course, noted psychopath T.J. Miller. Oh, yeah. show ed and then of course uh noted psychopath tj miller oh yeah this podcast goes there uh why not i don't know that there that is a big of a swig uh no i don't yeah even yeah that's it look he might admit to such himself. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. And well, the studio, the note that they did have to take about the picnic baskets is that they had to contain crystal head vodka. Well, sure.

It's on his rider. Did he sound like Dan Aykroyd? Was that guy a milky bear? He kind of did. So he did do a voice. He sort of did. Do you think he and Murray ever get together And go man we were just a couple

Of dreamers once Just running around the streets of New York High as shit And now I'm Yogi And you're Garfield Can you believe it We really made it I mean those characters have brought joy

To generations of people. So I hope they're respectful to that, those intellectual properties. I hope they are aware. And if they get together, then maybe they're having this wistful moment. And then they bump into Amy Poehler, who is, of course, one of the Chipettes. Yeah. I couldn't come up with it. Is she Britney?

Is she Althea? What are their names? I'm bawling out on my cartoon facts. I can't remember. I think as a kid, I was like, this is preposterous. There are the chipmunks and the chipettes. You weren't into the chipettes? I know I liked the chipettes, just the conceit bothered me as a kid.

I was like, so there's three perfect female doppelgangers. Were it only that simple? Were it only that simple? In this world. Yeah. Jeanette, Brittany, and Eleanor. Okay. I like them as characters, but I like the Chipmunks and the Chipettes.

And Dave had a lot on his hands raising three chipmunk boys with no other as a single parent. Did we ever meet like the Chipettes version of Dave? Did they have like a female Dave or were they part of Dave's? Was she in love with Dave? Well, no one was in love with Dave. That was probably the problem. He's in love with his work. Who was sadder, Dave or John?

John Arbuckle. John Arbuckle. I think Dave's more aware of being sad, which is sad in its own right, but John is not self-aware. He doesn't realize what a cruddy life he has. But also he has a girlfriend, right? Yeah, Dave's got a girlfriend. He's got a

steady thing going on. John or Dave? Not John. I think John had flames on and off. Yeah sure but dave had to manage those chipmunks career too and that's another headache yeah and that's the scene i'd like to see in the movie is like do you have any idea the sacrifice i've made for you i've given up everything i don't i haven't i haven't had sex in 20 years it It's everyday contracts, booking stadiums. Getting the rights to cover songs for you to sing because you don't ever write original songs.

Driving all night to get to state fairs. Chaperoning dates with your exact equivalents. And then there's a scene where the chipmunks are in the room with, and I can't think of the Mike Myers character from... Ray Foster. Ray Foster. A bunch of chipmunks in a hit band. Teenagers will never bang

their heads to a bunch of chipmunks. Christmas time is here is how many minutes long? It's a musical opera. I couldn't go as high as the chipmunks. Well, we ended up on another, the wrong cartoon characters. We ended up with the wrong. And we also, look, there's probably a lot more we could say, but I'll be damned if this

is the longest episode of the podcast. That doesn't make any sense. We're about two hours. Boy. Well, I guess now's the time. Any, um, hmm. Well, I, boy, I gotta, I gotta say guys, I gotta say, guys, I had a fun time. I had a fun time.

I sure did. I sure did. I sure did. Did I have a good time? Yes, I sure did. Well, two things I want to say. Well, one, in terms of a plus up, a plus up for a different ride, I think they should have done the Simpsons like this.

It should have been CGI Springfield and 2D Simpsons. Yes. I think that would have been very interesting to see with 2007, 2008 era technology. Great. I think it's a little weird that there's, I get why they did it, but it's, wasn't it surprising the first time you went on it when you get up to the top of that hill and like, whoa, what? Yeah.

I think CGI. I think, I don't remember if I thought that it looks like the treehouse of horror episode where their computer or Comer is at least computer animated. All right. Yeah. So I thought about that. But then it's like, yeah, seeing them that way the whole time. I get that. They're thinking like, oh, three dimensions makes you feel more like you're in it.

But it doesn't really. Yeah. As long as the background kind of has some dimension to it. I feel like. Here's my other thing that makes Fantastic World of Hanna-Barbera stand out from all other theme park rides. When this ride closed, Paramount Parks got the license to run it in their parks.

Oh, right. So this showed up in other parks. Canada's Wonderland. Canada's Wonderland. Canada's Wonderland and the other Paramount parks. And then when that license expired, it was replaced with Spongebob Squarepants 4D. The film also showed at Kentucky Kingdom

with its original name, the park at MOA under the name Yogi's Big Rescue. And for one... What a diss to the other characters. They just make it Yogi's thing and then it showed up pigeon forge tennessee baby dollywood under the name yogi's wild ride 2007 2007 2007 that's for a while wow i think 2009 was when the paramount parks kind of got stripped of all

the paramount and other licensed stuff. Universal's trash is Dollywood's treasure. Treasure. Hey. All I would say is I want to underline how much I love the great kazoo. And I want him in more media. Get him in there. Okay.

My plus up is just that you get to the next land. You get to the next room. You get into get to the next Room you get into the vehicle And the screen comes on and it's Hanna and Barbera again and they say Just kidding you're just gonna Watch us eat our lunch And then they're silent For a minute and a half

And then finally like boy This horseradish tastes good It sure does We've been eating horseradish tastes good. It sure does. We've been eating horseradish since 1962. Horseradish and sardines on rye. Is there a better lunch? I ain't found it yet. I sure ain't.

And then I'll make you happy, Mike, and the great kazoo can show up. All right, thank you. And then you're like, hey, can't you see we're eating? We sure are. And then he goes away. Oh, sorry. Keep eating your slop, dum-dums. Alright, you survived Podcast The Ride. That was a blast.

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Great podcast. I would add, you know, a Dickie like big bird wears when he's dressed up five stars info always accurate they remember their cartoon character names perfectly and i'm a boa man yes great and uh if we didn't touch on any hannah barbaric characters obscure ones or popular ones that are your favorites uh i'm gonna say this uh tweet them at us because i am so cute now i'm worried i'm gonna spend the next seven days just going down hannah barbara wormholes and i would like some assistance of finding oddball hannah barbara and there might be a big i am worried there's a big one that we missed but we'll find we'll talk about it later maybe

we haven't done one lost and found episode Maybe we'll cover some of your favorites. There's a lot more Hanna-Barbera theme park stuff. Like once just crawling around, like you'd find little things. And I don't know if I were to go down that rabbit hole, how much there is. But just the Flintstones thing that closed like in the last couple of days is this weird roadside attraction thing that was around for 50 years. And there's got to be something in there. Like we'll touch up on this. Probably rats and raccoons in there yeah there will be soon that's all that'll be there soon and they love to eat that trash

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