Podcast: The Ride - The Great Movie Ride

Episode Date: November 10, 2017

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There we go. That is good, yeah. Score already. My name is Scott Gairdner, and that guy you heard laughing was Jason Sheridan. And Mike Carlson is here. I'm here too. We have a softer laugh. Yeah, yeah. I'm withholding with my laughter, I've been told.

You have? Yes. Multiple sources have told you this, and I might agree with them. Yeah. Appreciate some support as we record future episodes of this Podcast the Ride. So, folks, today we're going to talk about the great movie ride which it feels strange to say it is a dearly departed attraction from the former disney mgm studios today's disney's hollywood studios and tomorrow's disney uh hyperia disney's xl yeah we should talk about that there's a survey just went out uh because they're thinking about renaming this park, this Disney's Hollywood.

It started out as Disney's MGM Studios and it's been Disney's Hollywood Studios for many years. But there's a list of ideas they've got and they're terrible. Each one better than the last, I would say. These are the names. Yeah, these were tested on guests. They did a poll to see what guests

liked the most uh the one that was kind of the most in line with what things have been named in the past at movie theme parks was disney's cinemagic i think was the name of is that correct yeah yeah no disney's hollywood adventure i feel like that was floating around as a rumor for a while that it was going to be called that seems pretty clean and clear is part of me is like just don't rename it like what a uh incredible amount of work for them to do and rebranding and re uh merchandising uh maybe they want to though now they get new money from that new merch with the the cool new logo i've got the names here these are the potential names there we go disney Disney Kaleidoscope Park.

What the hell? What does that mean? Yeah, I don't know. A kaleidoscope is just a mix of shapes and colors. What else? Which is what the park is becoming, just a mishmash of Star Wars and Marvel. Disney Storyverse Park, which like what is a... That was a

name by committee if I ever heard one.ney hyperia park made up word disney beyond park i mean that's nothing you know where you ride the rides about beyond movies disney beyond or disney hyperia a play on a local street name around where we are recording this podcast bizarre disneyre. Disney Cinemagic. Disney Legends Park. Which really, if it's called Disney Legends it should be like rides

devoted to all of the Disney legends. Like Dick Van Dyke and Imagineer Tony Baxter. And Whoopi Goldberg. And Whoopi Goldberg. Fess Parker. A virtual Fess Parker winery. He's the guy who played Davy Crockett and now he makes great wine that you can enjoy at the Disney parks. We all know who Fess Parker winery. He's the guy who played Davy Crockett and now he makes great wine that you can enjoy

at the Disney parks. We all know who Fess Parker is. Is he still alive? Not sure. I say he makes the wine. Probably he never made the wine. At some point he was alive and may not be alive today. There's my favorite potential name

Disney XL Park because I'm a big boy and I like a big park. You've described yourself as husky before. I'm a husky man, husky lad. I don't think you are, though. Do you just like in spirit you are? Like you have your jovial, you have. Well, at the very least, when I was a preteen, I definitely had some husky clothes.

I mean, husky is a size category for young boys in department stores. Not the dog, the Husky. No, no. It just means fat little boys. I'm so sorry. But this would be a place you as a child would have felt comfortable buying clothes that don't demean you. Yeah, big boy, big adventures, big thrills. That would be a good tagline.

Big boys, big adventures. Yeah, that's true. Meet the hosts. This is Jason Sheridan. He lives his life XL style. XL style. One thing you got to know about Jason, he's an XL kind of guy. He excels in living XL.

It also reminds me of the Disney, not Disney, the McDonald's Mighty Kids meal which was another thing aimed at husky kids It's like a happy meal, but if you're a little more hungry Was only your local McDonald's testing that out like they knew This is one XL kid, he'll come in and try this thing

I believe that was a national branding effort I have no memory. Mighty Kids? Yeah. The Mighty Kids meal had like, it would be like a double cheeseburger and not a regular cheeseburger. Yeah, for sure.

And it was just to fill that fucker up a little more. And a toy you could eat, I guess. A toy you could eat. Yeah. And what was the last, Disney Cinemagic? Cinemagine. Cinemagine. Oh, man. So if you can imagine theagine. Cinemagine. Oh, man.

So if you can imagine the cinema. Magine. It also sounds like cinema. It feels like a weird, well, doesn't it have a weird sort of vaginal quality to it? Cinemagine? Like, what is the, there's some comedy thing where somebody calls something a vagine and it reminds you. Borat.

Borat. Oh, okay. Borat. So unless they're opening a Borat right like a French man might see all the

most famous vaginas in film history Julianne Moore in Shortcuts is that correct there will be a Julianne Moore in Shortcuts animatronic think back to your Mr. Skin days and I know There will be a Julianne Moore in shortcuts animatronic. Think back to your Mr. Skin days, and I know we all have them. The Robert Altman movie based on Raymond Carver's short story, Shortcuts, will have a new attraction at Disney's XL Park.

For all fans of Julianne Moore's Another Region. I kind of agree with you, Scott. I think they should just keep it as disney's hollywood studios because even like in real life in modern day like movie studios mostly exist in popular culture like most movie studios they just keep bulldozing the sound stages because so much is shot on green screens not that we're all you know for those listeners who don't know, our body of work, sometimes we all do things for TV shows or something. Can't you count

on one hand the amount of times you've been at a real studio? It's so rare. You're always in some odd soundstage warehouse off the two in some awful Highland Park crumbling facility.

The studios are kind of a fake thing anyway, a little bit. And everything's shot in Atlanta, New Orleans. Also, my reasoning for why you should keep it just the same name is that, except for us and a thousand people, no one gives a shit.

No one cares. There's not a father that comes to Florida and it's like, well, the theme of this park is unclear and the name doesn't really match the rides that I've been going on. This is very bothersome to me. What productions are currently shooting here? I don't

see a soundstage anywhere. I don't see any... The famous hangar shape of a soundstage. I don't see any Teamsters or craft services anywhere. This isn't like the movies at all. I didn't need a special pass with my face on it to get in. I didn't need a drive-on. Mike and I were recently at a working movie studio, Universal Studios Orlando. Not together.

We were not there together. We were both there within the last few weeks. Separate trips. I'm so jealous. How did it go? What did you find? Some stuff looks really good and some stuff does not. You're talking about just Universal exclusively?

Just Universal Orlando in general. Yeah, yeah. I had a very weird experience where I was down there and, you know, Orlando gets a lot of rain, but the first few days I was there, it just rained so much,

like all the time. And usually it's like hot and sunny in the morning and then thunderstorms roll in. This was like waking up and there were thunderstorms. I like that we were talking about Universal Orlando

and the first thing you just talk about was the rain. I mean, it was just, it was very weird for Orlando because I've gone to Orlando so much. You were like, oh, what's he going to talk about? The rides or the restaurants? No, no, no.

Florida's rainy, folks. Let's cut to the chase. We want to hear about your naps. Did you get some good naps soon? Spider-Man still looks great. Yes, it does. I agree. Spider-Man still looks great.

The E.T. adventure, Scott, you'll be happy to hear, was running great. When I was there, it looked really good. Some of the other attractions, like some of the screen-based rides, Universal has a lot of screen-based rides, and some of them are not aging well. What's suffering right now? I mean, the Terminator ride needs a new screen. Oh, they still have Terminator.

I think that's going away, though. That's going away soon. The thing with the screen rides is some of them are aging poorly, but it's mostly screen rides. It's so depressing. It's a lot of screen rides. It's the same crap. It's the same stupid trick every time to make you feel like you're going forward. You get sprayed in the face with water at the same spot to me

like, oh, whoa, a guy just spills a soda on you from the Jimmy Fallon ride and water hits you in the face. But it's all the same pleasurable sensation in the world, getting water sprayed at you that you don't expect. The Kong ride is a lot of screens with a

great animatronic at the end. The giant Kong animatronic looks awesome. There's one robot on the new Kong ride and it is awesome but the rest is just like the crappy Kong

that's out here now. The thing, and it's just the same stupid water where it's like, oh, weird bugs and she's shooting at the bugs and the bug like,

oh, we got hit with water and like the bugs, like blood is on you now but it's just water. Let's see. What else? Fast and the Furious is coming by the way. Supposedly not a screen ride though. Supposedly a real ride and not

a screen ride. Ah, wonderful. I heard it here first. I found a lot of the big roller coasters in Universal Orlando I might just be getting too old for that. I had headaches walking off of them, and they just redid. Now we're getting back into the Incredible Hulk.

This is stuff that Jason's still talking about. The headaches I had in the rain. I used to go on the Hulk multiple times a day when I was there, and I walked off this time going, ooh, I feel really bad. I will say that I got a little headache on the Hulk as well. But that's a new track too so maybe the track is faster or more aggressive somehow. Maybe it's something like that.

Nobody had a seizure like Mission Space style. No, which was killing people. Which you've been right for the first few weeks. The Hulk ride, I do like that they've sort of changed the idea of it. It's just sort of like, hey, you get in line, we're going to turn you into a Hulk. It used to be like

Banner had an experiment and something was going wrong and then he was transforming. But now it's just like you get in line and here's what we're going to do. We're going to turn you guys into a fucking Hulk and you're going to shoot out and it's going to be great. It's totally a different context. That being said, it's just a roller coaster. There's no robots.

To bring it back to what we were talking about with the studios re-theming and everything, I haven't been to Universal Studios proper in a while, as opposed to Islands of Adventure. Is it getting confused at all, being that they have taken out, there's no tram tour, there's less behind the scenes, there's a roller coaster

where all the sound stages used to be did you does it matter is it it seems like it matters because that park i feel like they always got away with like this set is next to this set is next to this set because it's like it's like a movie it's always yeah it's always a back lot um it's still the park doesn't make any sense though and it's just a jumbled mess of like New York Street and there's the Blues Brothers But then Shrek is down the street In his own fairytale theater And isn't like T2 3D is in like the Schwab's

Pharmacy or something It doesn't make sense It's a lot, Islands of Adventure I mean my family Has always really liked Islands of Adventure We always had a lot of nice times. It really hasn't changed a lot, which is nice. Like, personally, I'm like, oh, it's nice that this is still here.

But also, like, it really hasn't changed a lot since 1999. It's bizarre because of the comic strip area most specifically. Like, you still have, like, Beetle Bailey and Nancy and like, just like little Nemo, like comic strips that were too old for when I was little, like, I don't know what the hell little Nemo was. But by Nancy, do you mean Kathy?

Did I say no? No, there's Nancy. No, no, no. Nancy. There's Kathy and Nancy.

What's Nancy? Nancy has like a big, she has like a big poofy, like black poofy hair. She looks kind of like Little Dot. Remember Little Dot from the Harvey Comics? Oh, okay. She's not an older woman.

She's not like the Hallmark card mean lady? No, she's a little girl. No, no. What's that woman's name? It was a very weird... Oh, Mary Worth? No, no, no. The Hallmark card lady.

Oh, the cranky old lady. Yeah, I can't remember her name. We should leave this to the podcast that assuredly exists or will soon exist about the great heroines of comic strips. One thing I did really like was spending time, and I know I kind of clowned on it in the stunt show episode, but like I enjoyed being in the Lost Continent. And when I saw the Sinbad show this time, like there was a lot less jokes and a lot more fighting. Like I feel like there was a lot more.

Oh, did they give, what's his name? Punjab less to do? They gave Kabob a lot less to do. Kabob was Kabob. Sinbad's, if you didn't hear the stunt show episode, go back and learn about

Sindbad. Sindbad. Voyage of the Lost Beyonds. I don't know the subtitle of the stunt show. Something like that. And everyone else was doing a lot more

intensive fight choreography. So I was impressed by that. Also packed. The Sindbad show was packed and the kind of weird Poseidon walkthrough adventure was like packed but not a lot of crowds this is great it's cool that almost 20 years into the game the classics are still uh yeah hard at Islands of Adventure but um but not so at Disney's

Hollywood Studios exactly and it's it's uh this this is a, Disney's Hollywood Studios is a park that has had its troubles lately, that it's in transition. A lot of the original opening day attractions have been let go or turned into some awkward iteration, like when there was an American Idol attraction, and now that's gone. And so we have bid adieu to the great movie ride, but we are going to resuscitate it today, bring it back to life on this episode. But why should I tell the tale? Why not leave it to some TV station from Tampa from 1989? One of the most entertaining of all Disney MGM Studios theme park attractions is the great movie ride inside

the Chinese theater. It was the first idea that surfaced from the original concept team to take guests through the most golden moments in film history and actually put them in the middle of the scenes. Of course, the first obstacle was deciding which of all the moments are most golden. Tough work for the Imagineers. Which moment is the most golden? They had to move, they probably had a big board

up moving from golden to silver to bronze, and if you were bronze, you're out of the ride. Only the most golden moments. Should we talk about the rumors about this park, like how this park got started? The park in general? Do you know this story about how Universal Orlando,

they were in development for a few years of building in Orlando and brought in the heads of other studios to see if they were interested in getting in on the park somehow. At the time, Michael Eisner was the head of Paramount and essentially saw the model for Universal Studios Florida. Then when he became the head of Disney a few years later, he was like,

we should build a movie studio park. No kidding. Really? He kept that in his pocket, which is similar to how it's rumored that Katzenberg saw the early development of A Bug's Life and sort of brought that over to DreamWorks. Oh, to the ants. He caught it in a meeting and then just kind of kept it in the pocket, smuggled it out of the building. This is all allegedly.

Please don't sue us, rich, wealthy men. Please still be on the podcast, Michael Eisner. Please be on our podcast. Our ultimate guest, we were just saying. Someday. Anyone with a BoJack connection who might be listening, please hook us up. I know you probably party with him all the time,

and we want to party with him too. I've read that he just wanted people to be like, well, we could go to Universal Studios, but if we have our own Universal Studios, they won't go to Universal Studios. So we'll just make it here. We'll just make Universal Studios, but if we have our own Universal Studios, they won't go to Universal Studios. So we'll just make it here. We'll just make Universal Studios here. That was his idea when he said yes to this park.

So that's the whole point. The movies are at Disney. And it for sure, the park did take a lot of elements from the original Universal Studios here in Hollywood. There was a tram tour initially which that's gone now right yeah oh yeah yeah where you went through a thing called catastrophe canyon which we can cover at some point uh sort of equivalent to earthquake one of these like experiences where your tram shakes in this fire and water yeah when the park first

opened it was very odd there was the great movie ride and like an hour and a half two hour back lot tour and that was it which is sort of um that is in universal studios history that is kind of how that park was where like there weren't all the individual rides the your day at universal studios was you did the tour and that's like a four or five hour experience and and in fact the great movie ride is kind of a remnant of that era because it is a very very long it was like a 20 to 30 minute ride something like there do we know the type probably like 20 minutes around 20 minutes 24 minutes or so but seemingly like in that more universal studios tradition now i feel like we're in an era of extremely fast rides. Oh, like three minutes. Three minutes, possibly. But I don't know.

I kind of miss that era. And I like it on Pirates of the Caribbean or Haunted Mansion or some of those classic attractions that you're sitting on this thing for a very long time. And closed, like, both the Ellen's Energy Adventure and Great Movie Ride closed on the same day. Both, like, moving theater rides. Both 20-minute. 22-minute. 22-minute show rides.

Ellen's Energy Adventure is 45 minutes. Is it really? It felt like it when I rode it. Extremely long, slow-moving rides. The opposite of thrills. There is not a thrill to be found on this ride. That was part of the chart. It's something that you can go on. If you were a

wimpy little kid like me, you knew nothing would scare you until the alien popped out. I'd just sink down into the seat and close my eyes. I did not like that alien. I was scared of that creature. I sobbed on the ride.

My mom said my sister and I were sobbing when the alien came. No one else sobbed on the ride my mom said my sister and I were sobbing when the alien came so no one else sobbed? okay I cried in those parks a lot I didn't so the alien was the only thing that made me cry really?

I feel like a universal earthquake probably freaked me out especially because as a child of Los Angeles we all lived under the shadow of real earthquakes. Sure, sure. Let's talk you through the attraction. Are we missing any other basics we haven't said? It was the opening day.

This was an opening day attraction. The original attraction was made in 1989. It was the last, because now it's gone, but it was the last opening day attraction that was still there. That's crazy. The centerpiece was the last, because now it's gone, but it was the last opening day attraction that was still there. That's crazy. Really, the centerpiece of the park, especially because it was in the Chinese theater,

which is the, what's that Disney term? Weenie? Do you know that? The big thing at the center of the main street that takes you down, it's the castle in Magic Kingdom, or the Epcot ball, the spaceship Earth in Epcot. And in that park, it is the Chinese theater.

But yes, the primary symbol of the park that's leading you. The thing that's on the T-shirt. Yes, that's a better thing to say. Also, that phrase weenie is extremely irritating. I don't even know if I've ever heard weenie. Maybe I'm making it up. I don't know. It I've ever heard weenie. Maybe I'm making it up. I don't know. It's somewhere

in theme park lore. That's funny you say that because I, when I watched a ride through of the great movie ride today and I, for whatever reason in my mind, had convinced myself

that the ride goes in chronological order of the history of the movies and it pretty quickly does not. Like the early scenes are very like the early days of movies but and it pretty quickly does not. The early scenes are very like the early days of movies but then it just jumps around. Oh, because you're into Mary Poppins

very quickly. Well, let's talk you through it. The line is a lot of fun. You get to see real props from some of the movies you're going to go into, like the Mary Poppins carousel horses. The first thing I noticed when you're walking around there is that it's nicer than the actual

Chinese theater. The outside from living in Los Angeles, outside, much cleaner. There's no guys walking around in superhero costumes. I was like, well, this is what it should look like. This is the one out here should look like this. It's much nicer. Sticky Elmos.

It is very much an idealized version of Hollywood. Yeah, yeah, which is great. The Hollywood of our dreams that has disappeared so long ago. I mean, when this ride was closing, I feel like there was a lot of tributes and blog posts written about, like, this is how, when I was a kid, I got interested in classic movies. And I know for me, I was a kid I got interested in classic movies and I know for me like that was a big this was a big thing like this made me I went and like hunted down the movies that

show up in this ride ah so you've seen you've seen like parade I've seen footlight parade three times in the last five years I have a lot of thought a life you leave live in excel but I was a weird 12 year old who had a VHS copy of Singing in the Rain, and I would just watch it over and over. Two tapes, right? Is that a two-taper? It might be. It is long. But between the Gene Kelly animatronic and the ride, and then there was like a photo op in the park

where you could, with a lamppost with an umbrella on it, and rain would come down. And I'm like this chubby 12-year-old kid going, I want to be like Gene Kelly. I can't fit under the umbrella. I can't fit under. I am still getting wet. My sides are damp.

But I love that cue, like looking at that montage of the trailers, the original trailers of these movies. Oh, that's right, yeah. Because in the ride, you go into, what, 12 to 14 different movies, and on the way in, in the Chinese theater, where the big theater screen would be, you watch all of the original trailers, which is fun, and that was probably

an early me realizing that trailers were not always the way they are today. Like, the fact that trailers used to have those crazy like, spectacular, amazical, today. The fact that trailers used to have those crazy spectacular amazical The spectacle of our time. And the number of dancers.

Over 200 dancers. Could you imagine if trailers were still like that and it's like the one to not miss the emoji movie coming to your local movie palace. It would be better, honestly. Over 500 different emojis represented in full Technicolor.

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Now, those trailers, that giant screen showing those trailers, in the last couple years of the ride operating, that's the first place you see Robert Osborne, right? Robert Osborne, God rest his soul, showed up in this a lot. A couple years ago, they sponsored the ride. They added Robert Osborne, the now deceased host of that channel. And he just, like, there's a lot of him now, or there was a lot of him explaining the movies. And, like, his narration is all over the ride.

So, like, he does so much of the heavy lifting with the ride as far as, like, explaining what's going on. Did he, like, take away some of what the guides were supposed to do. This is the thing that irked me when I got my job as a tour guide at Universal Studios in 2006, was so much of the fun stuff was given over to Whoopi Goldberg and Billy Bush. And now Jimmy Fallon. And now Jimmy Fallon, that's correct. The most infuriating thing for me was that Billy Bush, now Trump-related philanderer. I guess he's not, but he's been exiled from television. That creep got to say, we'll see you in the movies.

And I didn't get to say it. I'm still real. You had gotten to say it, and then they changed it? Or it just never happened? If I had started working there one summer prior, I would have gotten to say the classic line, we'll see you in the movies. Which is why now that's my common goodbye if I'm hanging out with people at a bar or something. I'll see you in the movies. Always close with, all right, see you in the movies.

I don't say I love you to my wife. I say see you in the movies. It's an important phrase to me. As you go to sleep at night praying you wake up in the morning. Or not. I say see you in the movies. It's an important phrase to me. As you go to sleep at night, praying you wake up in the morning. Or not. I hope so. Yeah, we're scared about, all right, well, hopefully see you in the movies. Anyway, where were we?

Robert Osborne. You're in the queue. Yeah, so he's taken over a lot of information on the ride now. Honestly, the update was a little too much. And did not salvage the ride. It was not enough of a hip update to make them keep it in the park. I don't know if it was. First off, I have to say, Turner Classic Movies rules.

It's great that there's just a channel that shows like uncut classic movies that are very well curated and uh there's no commercials or minimal commerce just commercials for other movies no dumb original series no yeah uh but yeah i mean i didn't ride it with robert osborne uh in there but from what i saw yeah it seemed like seemed like a lot. And like an elderly man dryly discussing movie facts was not the boost of energy. Yeah, I can't imagine that they were like, well, we know what will bring more kids in is that this old man will tell them about a 1930s movie.

Like this will really reignite the children. I think it probably came down to like, you know, they needed a sponsor and Turner classic movies gave this ride a few more years of life. Right. Like it was probably a practical concern. Like a pure sponsorship money issue. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, well, but the thing that, uh, maintained throughout the entire history was that you entered this wonderful room with this big,

bright marquee and you got onto a big uh big cardboard box looking uh vehicle uh that moved very very slowly and uh you were whisked away by your guide a uh flat speaking 18 year old uh wearing an usher vest well hooray for hollywood played which as a kid just got me so excited. I loved this. I was a little movie dork. I was so excited. Take it away, CB, they say at the start.

Like Cecil B. DeMille says, like action. Oh yeah, they call action on the ride. Quiet on the set. You start moving. And I'm glad they never changed that. They never updated directors on that. I was always taking it. Quiet on the set. You start moving. And I'm glad they never changed that. They never updated directors on that. It was... I was always saying...

Take it, AJ. Take it away, Gareth Edwards. Like, no one... I mean, it would have been... Take it away, Colin Trevorrow. Wait, maybe don't, actually. Scratch that, Colin. So then you go through, under the marquee,

essentially into a movie, and you start off with the golden age of musical movies. We mentioned Footlight Parade. There's a giant statue of all the dancers. Bathing beauties. Bathing beauties in Footlight Parade. There's a ton of them. There's like a ton of,

there's like 30. Yeah, and then there's projections from I think other Busby Berkeley movies. So a few years ago, I got a copy of Footlight Parade and watched it, and it is an insane movie. It stars James Cagney,

and it is like two and a half hours long i think and it is about a theater company who like back in the day giant movie palaces would have like musical numbers in between like the different movies and stuff and you would see like a fully produced broadway number really and this theater theater company is in danger of going under. So the whole movie is them trying to figure out what they're going to do, what they're going to do. And then the solution is they have to perform three different giant musical numbers at three different theaters in one town in one night.

And the movie ends with three giant set pieces back to back, including the last song in the movie, a song called Shanghai Lil, which he doesn't sing and dance the whole movie, and then the last number, he tumbles into, he accidentally falls into doing this number, and his character nails it. But it includes Ruby Keeler playing an Asian character named Shang-Hai Lil, and any number of other racial uh stereo let me ask you this question what from the because the uh the scene in the ride which number is that

from is that the racist number no that's if you haven't been on the ride or you don't recall it's like a kind of a tiered cake that a lot of dancers are

it's a lot of ladies on a giant cake on yeah and and like the spectacle of these of footlight paradeade and 42nd Street, it's also kind of like, this shows up in a lot of Busby Berkeley movies with just a few dozen dancers

doing an amazing choreographed number. And that's really what the ride is pulling from. But yeah, really glosses over some of the racial stereotypes and uh there's also a giant sequence where they make a big picture of FDR in the movie like a bunch of men

in sailor outfits like hold up signs and like there's a lot of like our boys in uniforms stuff well that sounds good movies were terrible in the past. There was no good movie, I don't think, to fill in Jaws. It's amazing to witness and think about they were doing it all practically, but yeah, in terms of like, ooh, this has not exactly held up.

So tourists every day from 1989 until several weeks ago were being whisked into this film, Footlight Parade, featuring a song called Shanghai Lil. And then you see a Gene Kelly animatronic, and then it goes right to Singing in the Rain, which was another childhood. That's a giant jump in film history, yes. Because Singing in the Rain, oddly enough, is essentially a jukebox musical. Most of those songs appeared in other lesser-remembered MGF musicals. Oh, is that right? Really?

Yeah, and then they were brought back for Singing in the Rain 15, 20 years later. You are like our own personal Robert Osborne today. I am, yeah. A comforting old man telling us about the old films. Would it surprise you to find out I played Robert Osborne once in a show at the UCB Theater? It would not. Okay. How long

was the standing ovation afterwards? Longer than the show. Two and a half hours, the length of Footlight Parade. Anyway, this has been your musical history. Interlude. Well, then you been your musical history. Get her a loot.

Well, then you go into one of the other great film musicals, Mary Poppins, which is, I believe, the only representation of Mary Poppins in the theme park. Which is crazy. I had that thought, too, because there's a video online that everyone should look that where Tony Baxter is showing, Tony Baxter, one of the most famous Imagineers, he had a whole book that he made a Mary Poppins ride in sketches that's really incredible that would have been an amazing dark ride.

It was kind of his way into Disney. For this to be the only Mary Poppins, Mary Poppins should be a ride. It's weird that this is the only thing we've got. Now it's gone. I think they're going to put some like, here's my fear, is they're going to put like Emily Bunt and Lin-Manuel animatronics

in the British World Showcase in Epcot. That's my concern. Because they're going to put something in there. A Mary Poppins thing when the sequel comes out. Yeah, when the new one comes out. And it's like, oh, don't, please, please, just put the old characters in. Or, you know, how about this? Let's do the attraction based on Saving Mr. Banks in Disneyland.

So you go through a ride in Disneyland where you watch Tom Hanks Walt Disney take Mary L. Travers through Disneyland. So you're in Disneyland. You're in 60s Disneyland in this Disneyland ride. And Walt is a folksy southern man like Tom Hanks. Well, hello, Mrs. Travers. It's good to see you, Mrs. Travers. Why come on in?

There's a five-minute scene where you just see a very tired Walt listening to the entirety of Feed the Birds. Thinking about his life and the weight of the world on his shoulders. And like, I have to build this experimental city. Cancer had infected his brain to the point where the city has got the city. I've got to build this ski lodge in the mountains. I've got to build this city of tomorrow. Sierra Club is screwing my ass.

That voice is so weird. A trip through Walt Disney's collapsing mind. We're going to do a lot of ride pitches over the course of these episodes, and there's one. At this point is where the ride gets really exciting because you board with two different ride vehicles, and at this point they split off. One keeps going into the old west and another goes into sort of like an old New York world. And at this point, the guide who we have been with gets caught in a shootout. And he gets replaced basically by either an old cowboy or a 1940s...

What do we got here? Oh, God. What? Hey, what do we got here? Is this a podcast? Somebody's just broken into the studio, folks. Hey, who are you? Stick him up, see? Oh, God. Okay, okay. I'm going to be here hijacking this podcast the ride.

Excuse me, how did you know we were here? How did you find us? The name's Bugsy. Bugsy Malone. And I'm going to take over this podcast. Give me these mics. Hang on. Hey, whoa, whoa.

Hey, hey, please. Wait. Now you know I mean business. No, he's got a Tommy gun. Stick him up. For those of you who cannot see what's happening, and most of you cannot, a pinstripe suit wearing 40s gangster has broken into the studio. He has a Tommy gun.

Oh, jeez. Hey, what's that over there? Is that a red on-air podcast light? I hate red on-air podcast lights. We shot out our red on-air podcast lights. We shot out our red on-air podcast lights. There's no way to know whether we're on the air or not now. No more red on-air podcast lights. Please, you've already robbed us of the most precious experience of hosting a podcast.

What are you trying to do here, Muggsy? Hey, now mind your P's and Q's, okay? Are you minding them? Yeah, I'm minding them. Okay. You're minding the P's. I think I'm minding the P's. And the Q's.

And the Q's. Yes. Okay. And put your valuables in my mouth. Oh, God. In your mouth? What? What counts as a valuable?

I want to suck on them. Yeah. Give me them jewels. Oh, my God. Here, take this aux cord. It's not want to suck on them. Yeah, give me them jewels. Oh, my God. Here, take this aux cord. It's not connected to a microphone. Here, shove that in your mouth. Folks, again, it appears a 1940s gangster has hijacked our podcast.

I might take this podcast to ride for a little ride myself. No, no, no, please. Oh, there's no way of knowing what this monster has in mind. Mind them. Okay, okay, wait, wait. Which R's and S's? The P's and the Q's. The P's and the Q knowing what this monster has in mind. Mind them. Okay, okay. Wait, wait. Which R's and S's? Which letters?

The P's and the Q's. The P's and the Q's. I'm so sorry. All right. Let's take this podcast a ride to another zone here. Oh, no. He's in control. Muggsy's in control now.

That's right. Wait, that's your name, right? Your name's Muggsy? It's Bugsy. Bugsy. Bugsy. I hate bugs. That's right. It's funny. On the ride, it's Muggsy. No, but now it's Bugsy Bugsy Bugsy Bugsy Right

It's funny In the ride It's Mugsy No But now it's Bugsy Okay Here it's Bugsy Bugsy

Why don't you Buzz off No Hey Hey Stick them up I'm sorry I don't mean to be a hero

I'm not a hero I'm a coward I'm crying Just like I did When I was a child On this ride Okay You're in control

I'm gonna put some money In Bugsy's mouth And let him suck on it. Okay, that's calmed him down. Bugsy is now eating money. Let's go. We got to get out of here. I'm not wanted. I'll be sent to Sing Sing if I don't get out of here.

I'll be sent to a thousand years in Sing Sing. Let's get out of here. Guys, Jason, Mike, we could be accomplices if we aren't careful. Okay, let's just try to lay low as we keep explaining the history of the great movie. Is that okay if we just keep doing... There's a James Cagney animatronic, public enemy James Cagney, not Footlight Prey James Cagney. Which is kind of interesting. He's a good friend of mine.

Oh, really? Oh, yeah. We gangsta all the way back to the roaring 20s. Have you been on heists together? Is that what you're saying? That's right. We were sent to Sing Sing before. Oh, okay.

Did you help him bust out, and that's how he can be on the ride today? Yeah, I busted out a Sing Sing. Oh, okay. Well, I guess thank you, because the James Cagney animatronic's really good. Yeah. It's good. It's a good robot. Thanks, Bugsy.

There's also in this section here, I looked up, and the names of the other gangsters are Brains, Legs, and Weasel. Are you familiar with these three? These are also your comrades? You're talking about my gang. Oh, okay. My gang of thieves. Go on.

We busted out of Sing Sing together. So Brains, Legs, and Weasel, they were all in Sing Sing with you and James Cagney. Yeah. Yeah, we busted out, you see. Hightailed it out of there to Shanghai ourselves this year podcast. Did you hide in a laundry truck? Yeah. Oh, okay.

We jumped right into it. That's usually how it happens. Legs was there too. You know what? I'm going to say it. I don't believe your story. Scott, be careful. I'm not telling the truth. Do you believe this?

That's what I taught. Oh, God. To you at home, that may sound like just a wave file of a Tommy gun, but if you were here in person, he has absolutely demolished the studio. This isn't even, we're new here. This is going to mess it up for all the other feral podcasts. Dope boys are going to come in here, and they're not going to have sonic clarity anymore.

Yeah, I stole all the Animalisa puppets from this here. You gotta give those Animalisa puppets back. I might get a bucket or two on the black market from these Animalisa puppets. No, no, no, don't. And do not, take your eyes off of that Rick and Morty autographed poster.

Maybe I'll put my eyes on it. No, no, no, no. Now my hands. Justin Roiland did not sign that, no, no, no Now my hands Justin Roiland did not sign that for it to be stolen Now my mouth Oh no, he's putting it in his mouth again This gangster and his disgusting oral fixation Here, put some of my rings that I wear on my fingers in your mouth, Bugsy

So you don't touch all this priceless memorabilia Oh, it's clanging around against his gold teeth Oh, my wedding ring is ruined. I got these gold teeth at Sing Sing. Oh, God. You're a truly vile man. Wait, wait, wait. Where are we now?

This ain't Kansas anymore, folks. No, we are, of course, looking at the man with no name, a.k.a. Clint Eastwood, standing outside of a saloon atop his great horse. Do you know about him? I know you know Jimmy Cagney, but do you know John Wayne?

I've never been here before. This guy doesn't look so tough. Well, he's the toughest, roughest, rudest, tunest cowboy in all of cinema. Show him some respect, buggy. The toughest World War II draft dodger there was, John Wayne. Where are we right now? Are we in Jersey?

I've never seen these horses and these cantinas. What are we in, Jersey? A lot has changed in the world in the time that you were trapped in Sing Sing. You don't know about the gold rush. A lot has happened. Oh, well, maybe I can get myself a few Ben Franklins while I'm here. Oh, no, don't do that. He was out of money at that point.

Put him in my mouth. Oh, no. That's what I like to do. Oh, my God. Folks, you should really not have to watch a man put money and tools and artifacts in his mouth. This is like that picture of the guy with all the billiard balls in his mouth. Like, this gangster's mouth is just insanely... Oh, Jason!

I'm sorry. Don't insult him. It's nothing like that photo. It's nothing like that silly photo. No, no, no. You don't look silly. You look very cool with those puffed out cheeks. You have minded those P's and Q's.

I will continue to mind them. I will go back to minding them. Okay, okay. Yeah, okay, all right, all right. P's and Q's in mind. continue to mind them. I will go back to minding them. Okay, okay. All right, all right, all right. P's and Q's in mind. Let's just try to... Oh, look over there. A cowboy from a different Western era, Clint Eastwood.

Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. I noticed this guy, Clint Eastwood. There's also this guy, Ethan, from a film that I like called The Soy Cheese. Oh, so are you a film fan? Oh, I love the movies. Oh, what are some of your favorites? 10,000 Years in Sing Sing.

That one doesn't have a lot of mass appeal. It might only relate to folks like you. Was that your sentence, 10,000 years? I got 10,000 years. How many did you serve? Heck, poof, hoof, hoof, not even a week. Wow. That's how fast I busted out of there.

Jeez, you got the lay of the land immediately. That's crazy. You know what? I'm starting to think maybe this guy's not so bad to have around. He's a smart guy. He's a real character. Just like all of us. What did you get set up the river for?

Hey, I got set for putting jewels in my mouth. Oh, okay. It's against the law around where I'm from. It's a sanitary concern. Yeah, that's right. I also like going on the Great Movie Ride. Oh, wow. So you're a theme park fan, too.

That's exactly what we're talking about. Yeah, it's a shame it's gone. Yeah, it's a shame it's gone. Do you think Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railroad might be a good attraction? The ride that's taking its place? Hey, the only Mickey and Minnie's I know, I saved in 10,000 years in Sing Sing. No. Well, I know if there's one thing, maybe you might enjoy a mouse or two, but I know you don't like a rat. Hey, the last thing Bugsy Malone wants to see is a rat.

Are you a rat? No. Jason, tell him you're not a rat. I'm not a rat. Snitches get stitches. How about a stool pigeon? Are you a stool pigeon? No, no, no.

I swear, I'm no stool pigeon. Mike, are you a stool pigeon? No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm just trying to call the police real quick. I'm suddenly worried that you're on the way to the cops. I'm going to call the cops. What's all that mumbling over there?

That's just some studio stuff. Just like disturbances on the mic. Feedback. You don't know how it works. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're getting radio signals from a different place. All right, all right. Well, keep minding your P's and Q's and nobody will get hoiked.

All right. Okay. Where does this podcast or I go to next? Well, the next part of the attraction is the, this is probably the scariest part of the attraction, even more scary than having a Tommy gun pointed at your head. This is where you go into the spaceship Nostromo from the 1979 film Alien. Spaceship? Now, what's a spaceship? Oh, well, so what's a space ship?

Oh, well, so that's a new thing since the 40s when you're from. We've opened up a whole new part of the universe that we can go to up above the Earth. It's called space. And to get up there, we use space ships. They're highly advanced technological vessels. It's like a car. It's a car that takes you to the stars. Wow. The moon?

The moon, sure. The man has walked on the moon. Maybe that man saw my old lady because I sent her there last night. Oh, no. Bugsy. You can't wait. We should remember it was acceptable in his time, but it's not

today. No. Especially not when we're talking about Alien starring Sigourney Weaver, Ripley, one of the coolest heroines in cinematic history. Like ass kickers in movie history. I don't know if you know this, women star in movies today. That's a new development since your time as well. Sigourney Weaver, I'd like to challenge you to a boxing match.

No, no. Oh, she'd clean your whistle, Bugsy. She'd clean your clock. Yeah. You mind your P's and Q's. You were talking about that kind of thing. All right. And even this alien. Hey, he got woke. This alien is a lady, too.

Oh, no. Hey, Scott. I think that alien up there likes you. You don't say, huh? Yeah, why don't you give her a big smooch? Oh, ew, no. That's disgusting, yeah. It makes me want to barf.

Don't say that. Why don't you smooch both of her mouths? The inside one and the outside one. I will not. I'm married. I have one mouth at a time for me. That acid blood could really chew through some bars at Sing Sing. All right, Jason will kiss the alien, but Scott doesn't have to.

Go ahead. choose to do some buzz at Sing Sing. All right, Jason will kiss the alien, but Scott doesn't have to. There is a full-sized alien alien here. You're in feral audio studios. Constantly peeking through the ceiling, like in the ride. It's unnerving. Nobody noticed until Bugsy showed up. Hook her up. Jason, come on, kiss the alien and get it over with.

Come on, do it for all of us. Be a man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, come on. Kiss the alien and get it over with. Come on. Do it for all of us. Be a man. Mmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you put your tongue in it? Yeah, he's so cute. For those of you who can't see, the gangster has put

his Tommy gun down. He's quite aroused and maybe this is my chance to get the drop on him. Just grab. No, no, no. Okay, okay, okay. I'm sorry. Go back to watching Jason kiss the alien

with a multiple mask. Yeah, take the inner mouth with your two hands there. This is really nice. Hold that inside alien mouth with your two hands. How do you know how it's done immediately?

Put the whole inner mouth in your mouth. Why did it take us this long to do this? All the way up to its outer mouth so that the outer mouth can give your face a little kiss when you go down the inner...

Yeah, like that. Jason is just... You see him positively euphoric right now while he's kissing the alien's tiny mouth. So right. Yeah, all right. Well, that was... You've helped one of our hosts...

Again, Bugsy is very helpful. He's helped one of our hosts discover who he really is and what he's into sexually. It's good for both of us. You guys go ahead. I'm going to stay here and get to know the alien. All right. Jason is going to go up into the rafters with the alien.

All right. Fucking an alien? That's pretty woke. Hey, I would say fucking an alien is the wokest thing you could do. Yeah, I guess he's right. Whatever that word means. All right. He's an extraterrestrial, I guess.

Yeah, an extraterrestrial. I like it. I like the sound of that. Okay, now, so let's leave Jason behind. Hopefully we'll catch up with him at some point. But now we're heading into the Indiana Jones experience. Do you know about it? He's from your time. You ever bump into him?

Yeah, I knew a guy named Indiana Jones. Yeah, he fixed the races over in the Indianapolis 500 for me. We made great. All the sacks of money and dollars. So he would fix horse races and then you would

win money. Yeah, same guy who did the white socks. Yeah, I'm into fixing things. See? You ever run into a guy named Williams? Williams? Oh my... Yeah, that guy, he's a real greaser. Yeah, he is.

He's a real greaser. Yeah, we would have fights with him and his greaser gang. Oh, geez. So you had to watch out for switchblades. Yeah, yeah. We would put point switchblades at each other.

My gang versus Mutt Williams' gang. But sometimes his switchblade was a comb and he would just comb his hair back. And I thought that was pretty smart and funny. Yeah, that sounds exactly like Mutt Williams. That's exactly And I thought that was pretty smart and funny.

Yeah, that sounds exactly like Moat Williams. That's exactly... I thought it was a switchblade. You for sure have dealt with the real Moat Williams. I thought it was a switchblade, but it was a comb. And he used it to comb his greasy, greaser hair back. Now, I don't suppose your weapon is secretly a comb as well. Oh, you mean this?

Clearly it's not. It's not. It's a real Tommy gun. If, you mean this? Clearly it's not. It's a real Tommy gun. If anything more must by the bullets. Bugsy doesn't like to get too familiar with the common folk that he's robbing, kindly. All right, well, let's keep a comfortable distance then. All right. So tell me about this Indiana Jones guy.

Okay, so this is interesting because this is the first appearance of Indiana Jones in the theme parks, predates the Indiana Jones ride. There's a couple of rooms, which are pretty impressive rooms, obviously littered with snakes, and the first Indiana Jones animatronic, which is carrying the

ark out of he's lifting up this big golden thing with John Rhys- Goldaylor. Gold? Did someone say gold? Yeah, well, that room on that attraction does have a lot of gold. A lot of valuables in it. But we've already given you all of ours.

I've given you all my money, all my rings on my finger. Why do you need more? Hey, Bugsy likes to make as much dough as possible, you know? Before he makes a pizza made out of jewels, he's got to get the dough. I mean, look, looking around this recording studio, there's not much value left to you. I mean, except maybe for that ruby that magically powers our mixing board. Whoa! Yeah, look, I think you should not look at that. Even looking at that magical ruby that's really big and, like, it's illuminated and it's been here for a long time. A bright red.

Get a load of that. A magical type of red. It's magical. That's a chunk of ice. Yeah, I really think you shouldn't go. You shouldn't do it. Stop. Oh.

Do not touch that ruby. Whoa, that, oh. For people who cannot hear or cannot see what's happening, the pinstripe suit-wearing 40s gangster has now been joined by a hooded man. A man in a cloak. Hey, stand back. I'm trying to get this here ravioli chunk of ice and put my lips on it. This ruby is cursed. All who have tried have perished.

That's why Farrell got such a great rate on this building's rent. So they had to build a studio around the ruby. You better listen to him. It seems like he knows what he's talking about. Bugsy doesn't care about a quise. A quise doesn't scare Bugsy Malone. He's walking over to it. I guess he's going to take it.

I'm sorry. It's a bad idea, man. Put my lips on it. I don't care about a quise. Oh, he's buck the ice. It's a bad idea, man. Put my lips on it. I don't care about a quiz. Oh, he's puckering up. Oh, no. Oh, boy. Oh.

Oh, no, no. Oh, my God. The power briefly flashed on and off here at Feral, and the 40s gangster has just turned into an ashen pile of rubble, a coal black skeleton. And that's the magic of podcasts. Whoa, Jason. It was me all along.

You were in the cloak. The guy was you? Yeah. Wow. I thought you were busy kissing that alien. I made love to the alien and then I ran back in here, threw a cloak on and hit by the cursed ruby that haunts and powers Feral Audio. Wow.

Oh, my God. I have to say, I mean, I don't know how well you guys remember the other episodes that we've recorded, but it seems like we just talked about rides, and today seems very high in terms of magical content. A lot of crazy stuff is happening. A lot of surprise to me. I thought we would just dryly walk through the ride like we normally do, but today, yeah. And air our grievances about changes to the park. Maybe drop

some mild profanities, but instead all these most special guests of all have showed up. Hold on, I'm going to go try to pry my rings and money out of this dead man's mouth. Oh, yeah, yeah. Don't touch the Rubik. Here, I got it.

Here's your stuff, too. Oh, Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Don't touch the Rubik. You can work on that, please. Here, I got it. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay, great. Here's your stuff, too. Oh, thanks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And let's give back that ox cord and all those. Where'd all the hundreds come from? Were those all yours?

I guess you keep those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, I don't want to touch them. Full of saliva. I bet all the saliva surrounding all the jewels in his mouth helped him get electrocuted. Yeah, that probably makes a lot of sense. Makes a lot of sense. Anyway, then there's a Tarzan room.

Yes, then you go into the Tarzan. Yeah, there's a cool Tarzan room. Johnny Weissmuller and Maureen O'Sullivan. It is crazy that there was a ride for 30 years, 20 plus years, featuring a Johnny Weissmuller animatronic. Yeah, you could go to the parks, kids could see Anna and Elsa and Johnny Weissmuller. The magic of Disney World. I was thinking it's weird that they didn't just re-theme it to the cartoon Tarzan. Like when Disney's Tarzan came out, it would have been such a simple thing to like switch it to the cartoon. Like that seems like a thing they would do.

Put like a Disney store level, a kind of dummy. Just a mask, just a cartoon mask on the same thing and be like, it's Disney's Tarzan. And like no one would have given a shit. Or Brendan Fraser's George of the Jungle. Oh, sure. That's a Disney property. A lot of 90s properties could have filled in. Well, this is the whole problem with the ride is that they did not keep updating the films.

You can only assume that in the original conception of the Great Movie Ride, it was like, oh, and we'll update it once every five years. But they didn't particularly do it. But a cool room when I was going through. One of the better rooms, honestly. Jungle Room. He flies back and forth. He does the yell,

the famous yell. We all know it. It also could have been Mighty Joe Young with Charlize Theron. I didn't know she was in that. I don't know if I ever saw that. I just heard her on a Bill Simmons podcast and he brought that up and she was like, let's get moving.

She did not activate and talk about George of the jungle. Uh, anyway, yeah, they missed this. So they missed a lot of, uh, opportunities that were the new Tarzan,

uh, Kellen Lutz Tarzan. There's been a ton of Tarzans they could have updated with, but, um, no, uh, but they,

they stayed in the past and we stay in the past with the Casablanca, uh, scene. That was another movie a 12 year old me like hunted down at the video store and i feel like i did not understand a lot of the context of it like i remember watching that a bunch when i was younger and like casablanca to a little kid in 1996 like doesn't really you mean the nazi stuff yeah like i don't think i knew understood i knew about World War II

a little, but I didn't know about, like, Vichy France and that sort of thing. And, like, the bit at the end where they throw

the Vichy water in the trash can and the song plays. See, I don't remember all this stuff. If that, before these gangsters were still around,

he probably could share his film buffering. Yeah, he knows. That's right around his era. That's right around the same time. So, like, he probably could share his film buffering. He knows. That's right around his era. That's right around the same time. So he probably saw that movie and maybe lived the same time. So it's possible. Is that also the plane?

Is that also the plane? Wasn't there a rumor that that is really the plane from Casablanca? I don't mean to interrupt you. I don't mean to interrupt Jason, but right behind you. Oh, my God. The smoking, ashy skeleton of the gangster. I'm big. Oh, no. The smoking, ashy skeleton of the gangster. I'm back! Oh no!

His bones are shattering. He's doing a graveyard dance. I'm back! This is not canon. So, as you were saying, Jason, that is the actual plane from Casablanca. Oh, yeah, okay. That they use in the movie ride. How about that? Yeah, stick him up! Okaylanca. Oh, yeah, okay. That they use in the movie ride.

How about that? Yeah, stick them up. Okay, okay. Oh, he still is, but now it's firing bones instead of bullets. Okay. Clinkity clinkities. This is a lot like Walt Disney's The Skeleton Dance. Did you see that?

You're a movie buff. That would have been our new release. No. Oh, okay. Well, can't see them all, and they don't, uh, not too many movie screenings in Sing Sing, I'd imagine. Hey, well, glad you're back. Glad you could join us, and

I'm glad that your soul somehow survived in that, uh, ashen rubble of a skeleton that you now pilot as a body. I saw all my old gang members up there. Oh, it was Bugsy and Mugsy. Squint and Beans? Squint and Beans were all up there.

What about Brains, Legs, and Weasel? Brains and Legs. Oh, it was wonderful. All my old gangster friends, we were reunited. But then did God send you back here because of your unfinished business? They wanted me to set the record

straight on the Casablanca plane. Oh, great. So it was the real plane. Was it? Actually, do we know if that was the real plane on the ride or not? Half of it. Bugsy says.

Message straight from God. So God sent you back to give us that message and only that message. No, Bogey himself sent me back. Oh. Bogey himself. A cine. Oh. Bogey himself. A cinephile's dream you've experienced. And I fenced with Douglas Fairbanks Jr. as well.

You can't believe it. I don't mean to pimp you out for your entire heaven experience, but you didn't by chance swing on a vine with Johnny Weissmuller. Oh, did I? Wow. Wow, you know, because even two minutes up there was an eternity. Hey, while we're talking about Casablanca,

that famous scene in Casablanca actually shot indoors on a soundstage right here in Burbank at Warner Brothers Studios. Is that right? Wow. Another Robert Osborne style fact. Another Robert Osborne. Did. Another Robert Osborne. Did you see Robert Osborne

up there? How's he doing up in heaven? Hey, Robert, he's, he's, he, he's,

no, he's not doing too good, actually. What? You can do bad in heaven? Yeah. What a horrible revelation. He's very sick.

Oh my God, that's sick. So he's not walking around introducing things to his first delight? No, no, it's really sad to watch him. You know, he's getting all his facts wrong. He's very sick. He's going to around introducing things to his heart's delight? No, no. It's really sad to watch him.

You know, he's getting all his facts wrong. He's very sick. He's going to go to the next one. The next what? They're sending him down to hell? Purgatory or hell? The next level of heaven? There's another one.

Is he going to other heavens? That's what you don't know. There's other ones. Oh. There's multiple heavens? Is he being punished? Or is God unhappy with his incorrect movie facts? He couldn't save the ride, so he's got one strike against him.

Oh, God was a big fan of the great movie ride, because God loves the classics. God's a good man. He would like such a great ride. Hey, God's no man. God's a woman. We all know that. Of course. Bugsy's woke.

Bugsy's woke. Of course. Hey, all right. Well, now that. Bugsy is woke. Of course. Well, you know, now we're heading towards the finale. Slap God in the mouth. That's the worst. That's crazy. You can't fight God. You got sent back here because you're going down

to meet the man downstairs. I think you're on the way back to hell. No, I'm going to go to the other level. There's another level? The levels go both ways. There's about three of them. So there's multiple areas just like Disney World. Heaven's kind of like Disney World

where there's multiple parks and you get around via... A boat. Yes. You were sent down in a boat. What a very fun leap. It's pretty nice to know that. Just so you know. Yeah, okay.

Well, now we're heading to the Wizard of Oz with the witch, which is a really great animatronic character. One of the best, I think, in the history of the parks. A lot of points of mobility. Yeah. And those creepy, the munchkin animatronics always kind of creeped me out as a kid in that, too.

Because they talk to you, and they sing along, and they ask you where you're going. They make eye contact with you in a strange way. Bugsy, are there short people in heaven? Oh, what do you think heaven is? It's not going to exclude the little freaks of the world. Bugsy, Bugsy, no. In his language, that's nice. On his spectrum, that's an inclusive statement.

All right, let me tell you. Everyone gets a cloud. Everyone gets their own cloud. I had a pinstriped cloud. And the munchkins have little tiny clouds. They don't need to be as big. That's how it works. As a shorter man, I'm happy to hear this. That I't need to be as big. That's how it works. As a shorter man, I'm happy to hear this,

that I'll have an appropriate size cloud. You'll get a little cloud. You won't feel bad for hogging cloud space. But I bet Manute Boll, or which one of the tall basketball players has passed away, George Mirashan. Oh, they have the biggest clouds. They must be eye-bogglingly big.

Is that where the Lakitu from Mario Kart, is that where the idea came from? The character in the Mario games? Oh yeah, do you see any little creatures tossing shells out from a cloud? No, but that is where they got the idea. Oh, okay.

So whoever designed Lakitu must have died and gone to heaven, come back with that notion. Yeah, and now that all the munchkins are dead, they all have their little tiny munchkin clouds up there. They're all dead now. They're all there. They're still singing. They're singing their songs. Oh, that's nice.

Yeah. You're giving us some hope for the future. I hope we all as one day... In heaven they sing, follow the yellow brick cloud. Oh. That's very charming. See how they changed that?

That's very charming. Because clouds are the street in heaven. Yeah, yeah. I'm still concerned that you can be sick in heaven though. That's bothering me

to be honest with you. I'm concerned about Robert Osborne. Yeah, Judy Garland too. She's a little sick. She's sick? Didn't she live a hard enough life on earth?

Yeah, she's been sucking too much munchkin come up there. I mean, what? Yeah, she's been sucking too much munchkin cum up there. I mean, what? Jesus. Oh, Bugsy. Oh, Jesus Christ. Bugsy, that's, uh, now you've pushed it too far. Hey, you know all the Bugsy. Bugsy man, Bugsy man,

this is, that's way too far. No, no, no, no. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That's just, it's his nature, what he's built. It's all a joke. We better hide something out of Wizard of Oz town before we hear more of this. Did you guys catch the rumor that it seemed unclear? Some sources very confidently said Liza Minnelli

is the voice of Judy Garland in the Wizard of Oz sequence, but that did not seem confirmed. I don't know if that's true. I have never seen that, so that's interesting. I don't know if that's true or not. I feel like that's a fact. All us little freak kids would have known for sure as children, as children interested in Judy Garland and Liza Minnelli.

I feel like if that were true, we would have known that. So I'm going to say no. I think that's a false rumor. If Liza Minnelli was dead, I could have told you. That's true. She's not dead. She's very much alive. You didn't see her.

She hasn't climbed upon the boat to heaven yet. The rules of Bugsy are now that I only know about things from heaven. So that's the new thing that happens with Bugsy. At least you're not haunted by your less than a week in Sing Sing anymore. No, no, no. That's so far in the past. Now I'm a messenger from beyond. But not of anything profound of just sort of odd trivia from heaven.

About how celebrities are doing. The sort of mundane life of heaven. Yeah, you're not spreading the word of the gospel or the word of Christ. He threatened to smack God, so I don't think he's a religious man. Yeah, I guess not. Although you believe in God. Hey, same bad for AMC's preacher, right guys? AMC's Preacher, right guys? AMC's Preacher.

Now that you're back on Earth, you can get caught up on AMC's Preacher. Start binge watching. Oh, I can't wait to binge watch the Ozarks. That's what I was waiting for when I was in heaven. Better than heaven, they say. That's what all the critics have been saying, so I'm glad you get to do it. So you make it now. The great movie ride finishes,

and we get to the movie at the end of the ride, where you get to experience all, you get to binge watch, really, all of cinematic history in one sitting, several glorious minutes, in which you see, you know, what's in that? What I remember is that that movie at the end,

the montage of all the great films it was very oddly heavy in like 80s Bette Midler movies yeah Bette Midler shows up a few times they were really pushing Bette Midler in the 80s at Disney World in general like there was a heavy Bette Midler presence and she was like at the opening

and everything have you ever seen any of those big business the like touchstone movies of the 80s? For some reason, Good Morning Vietnam is highly featured in this montage. That's a great point. Good Morning Vietnam.

They give a lot of real estate. I have never seen that movie, but that scene is burned into my brain from riding that ride so much as a kid also the cut from like uh al jolson going you ain't heard nothing yet to a shot from showboat and like the i'm really glad that disney and michael eisner would uh put into al jolson al jolson and it's a great movie ride you can You can't ignore it, can you? But then in a more recent edit... It's part of our history. Yeah, we have to acknowledge it

and move on. In a more recent edit, they took out showboat but put in, is it Laurence Olivier from Marathon Man going, is it safe,

Laurence Olivier? Oh, of course. Was the old Nazi going like, is it safe? Yeah, the old death camp. Yeah, the old torture. SS officer who's about to pull his teeth out

and looking for the diamonds that he stole from the Jews during the Holocaust. Really? Yeah, your film buffery is I'm glad you came back. That's the plot of that movie. Although a big shot of Woody Allen in that movie. I forget from Take the Money and Run, maybe. I don't know. Because they have to represent like comedy in general so you see buster keaton and woody allen and like uh robin williams or

like uh or like pat they were like they made it when they were plugging it's pat so just all i was trying to watch it today and see what sexual maniacs were in it besides Woody Allen I was trying to see there's a shot of Johnny Depp I was trying to see if they had removed anyone there's no Jefferson Davis film that they included

there's a chance they had to get rid of the great movie ride because there's a problematic element in every movie in the great movie ride so it's just easier to replace it with Mickey Mouse. Footlight Parade. As we've experienced today, Bugsy, the 40s gangster

who's visited us, has shown us his very problematic views from the past. So this might all indicate why they needed to take the ride out. Maybe it was archaic. Maybe there were offensive viewpoints within it. And also maybe licensing a couple dozen movie properties from other studios started to add up archaic maybe there are offensive viewpoints within it yeah and also maybe uh licensing uh a couple dozen uh movie properties from other studios started to add up over 30 years yeah

yeah yeah and they did lose the mgm license you know we do we do a thing uh where on the when we've reviewed rides in the past we've used our our system of uh keep it uh uh What were the choices? Keep it, plus it up. Mysterious fire for the insurance money. Burn it down for insurance money. Now, the choice has been made for us. The ride basically was burn down, essentially. But if there was a way

to salvage the great movie ride, do you guys have... And Bugsy, I include you in this. Is there a... Yes, you're welcome. Is there a... Yeah. Yes, you're welcome. Was there a way... Is there a way they could have salvaged this ride? More Bugsy.

That's what I think. So your suggestion is maybe turn a lot of the other scenes into 40s gangster scenes or at least put the animatronic James Cagney maybe in like the Wizard of Oz scene as well and make that a through line. Like you pop up in one of the munchkin windows. Maybe you go bother Glinda the Good Witch.

Yeah, Bugsy Bones, which is my new name. Because I'm a skeleton. Bugsy Bones' great movie adventure. Now that's something I would pay to see. A cursed skeleton from the 40s who's been to heaven. That's right. And it's on his way to hell. Where the great movie ride is now in hell

and Bugsy's on his way to hell. Me and Al Jolson and John Wilkes Booth take you around the great adventure of acting and film history. Yeah, I like the sound of that. With brief touches of offensive opinions, but not so much, certainly is not any sort of demented history lesson.

Right, right. That's just what you think. A manageable amount of offensive opinions, I think. Also, all the old, you know, great studio heads, you know, the Warner Brothers and Thalberg and Mayer, and they're probably definitely in hell. They did horrible things. They probably laundered money through you.

That's probably one of the many things you went to. Yeah, I've taken care of Irving Thalberg. I've gotten a kickback from the Warner Brothers. Yeah. The budget overage of D.W. Griffith's tolerance or intolerance was slid to you Buzzy that man couldn't

tolerate a ting not a ting not a ting you know you are you've proven yourself such a cinephile you've proven yourself such an important part of the Great Movie Riot experience. It's too bad that you can't now leave your handprints or your bone prints, as it were, in the cement outside the Chinese theater.

I know. It would stick and my bony bone fingers would fall off and stick to the cement. Or here's an idea. It might prevent your finger flexibility in the future, but maybe cement is a good way to cover up those fingers and give you a full hand again. And you have, like, cement hands, and you could punch guys. No, no, no.

We don't want them to punch. I'm so sorry I even suggested that. No, no, no, no, no. Don't do it. Don't do that. The only cement I'm familiar with are cement shoes. Oh, no, no, no. Don't do it. Don't do that. The only cement I'm familiar with are cement shoes. Oh, no, no, no. And you guys keep choking around with your little ride opinions. I might have to fit you all for a pair of cement shoes yourself.

Wait a minute. So I thought we were friends now. We bonded over movies, and you're still mad at us? You're still threatening us? I'm gonna toss you in the river and drown you faster than Robert Wagner drowned Natalie Wood.

She told me in heaven, by the way. Once again. That it was him. Again, it's part of our history. You have to acknowledge it. That's probably what happened. Jesus. Allegedly. It was a weird story. We never found out what happened Jesus allegedly

it was a weird story we never found out what happened she told me you don't see the I know the real Casablanca plane is in the great movie ride

the real Robert Wagner boat isn't in there somewhere too so that was on the backlot tour when they after they closed it down oh that was like

teetering above catastrophe canyon yeah and it got left out in the rain with the spectra magic floats and the rocket rods. So it got destroyed. Oh, it just rusted away. Too bad.

Well, that's why we have to preserve our history and not let it rust away. All that remains is the horrible memories left in Christopher Walken's brain. Another theme park ride idea. Journey into Christopher Walkogan's brain. Well, I mean, that pretty much takes us through the history of the great movie ride. And how wonderful to get to have encountered one of the characters from the ride. Bugsy, thank you so much for being here. A pleasure.

Absolutely. Is there anything you'd like to plug? Yeah. Got a new book. Bugsy. Got a bone to pick coming out in about two weeks. Well. Yeah, doing some other podcasts. That's very clever.

Did you think of that, or did you have a ghostwriter who thought of some of the jokes for you? No, no, no. Well, I have to say, when I was in heaven, I did meet one ghostwriter. That's Tennessee Williams. Oh, how's he doing? See, because he's dead. Well, yeah. Why did you go with him over Trumbo?

He saw who he saw, Mike. Don't plug our ears. I just wanted to know. Because he was dead, I consider him a ghost writer is what I'm saying. Oh, I see. I get it. I'm sorry.

Has he written dozens of new plays up in heaven that only you got to read? Yeah, Cat on a Hot Tin Cloud. Wow. Oh, great. That's a heaven exclusive. You're not going to hear it here on Earth, folks. Seems like he's kind of resting on his laurels there

and going over old material, to be honest. Wouldn't you? Let me ask you this, though. Yeah, I guess I would. Is he sick as well? No. Oh, good. Oh, to be honest. Wouldn't you? Let me ask you this, though. Yeah, I guess I would. Is he sick as well? No. Oh, good. Oh, that's good.

Some people, here's something we've learned. Some people are well in heaven. Some people are struggling. So, hey, the struggle never ends. Ain't that right, Bugsy? That's right. The struggle is real. Hashtag Bugsy.

Hashtag Bugsy. Hashtag Bugsy. So hashtag Bugsy. If you want to see Bugsy back on the show for potentially an unrelated ride, I know you only appear in one ride, but if you ever, what could Bugsy talk about? If you want to come back and talk about Horizons or. Or the never built Dick Tracy's Crime Stoppers. Oh, that'd be great. Yes.

Yeah. That's another guy. I don't like that Dick Tracy. Oh, yeah. Wait, that'd be great. Yes. Yeah. That's another guy. I don't like that Dick Tracy. Oh, yeah. Wait. Let's not parallel. Okay. I'm getting mad.

When I take up Dick Tracy, my trigger finger gets a little tight. Oh, okay. None of us are Dick Tracy's not here. Yeah, yeah. We hate him. Take care, everyone. Hey, all right. Bye.

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