Podcast: The Ride - The Haunted Mansion 8

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

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Ma' team. Forever. Dog. Ah, there you are. And just in time. Year 8, that is. There's a little matter I forgot to mention. Beware

of time-wasting hosts. Ha-ha-ha. They have selected you to hear some facts about the graveyard. That's right. We're still in the graveyard. Perhaps we'll move further this year?

We'll see. Now we will lower the quality bar. It's Haunted Mansion 8 on Hotcast the Fright. Ha ha ha! Okay, I'm waiting and go. I think, well, okay, here's what I think. It's, I think we said it was just for Jason, but I think if you're asking for 10 Belgian names.

Yeah, that is what I'm asking for. Okay, I'm ready. Is Jason ready? I prefer them to be from Jason. Uh, no, I listened to the whole episode in this. We didn't listen to the whole episode. Yeah, you did it was tough. I listened and it did not make enough of an impact on me.

Is this the average listener who doesn't pay attention to the- This is what we did. This is our little brown M&Ms. This is way to make sure that every host is listening and that every listener is listening. Right. There was a brief mention of Belgian names. Yes. You got that.

Yeah. And then nothing else for the rest of the episode. Okay. Well, no, because the full thing that was, you know, usually that's this, it was tough this time. And I knew it'd be tough because it was buried in the middle. Usually we leave our little year-to-year continuity assignments at the end. And I noted this. I was like, this will be tough because it's in the middle.

And the assignment was to start the. episode by saying 10 Belgian names inspired by your bringing up Etienne Gaspar-Rabere, the famed Belgian phantasmagoras. Yeah. So a simple assignment, an easy assignment, a very easy to remember. I have the top. Top names. Great.

Male names, Lucas. This is great. This is like we're playing as a team. I'm sure Jason dropped the ball, but you came right in and picked it up and you're about to dunk it ten times. Let's hear it. Arthur, Noah, Jules, female names Emma, Olivia, Luis. I wish they felt a little more Belgian, but I guess I can't be picky.

There are any of them a little? Where in here, I'll let you do the list. Well, I was it, really. I just like five male, five female. That's, yeah, I was a little at the, I guess I could have dug harder. I want to hear Jason do one. Can we care or can see, can we look up who's the president of Belgium? Oh, maybe.

Is it presidents in Belgium? That's a great question. I didn't look that up. Prime Minister of Belgium. Minister. Let's see. Prime Minister of Belgium. He is Bart de Weaver. Well, that's not so fun. Oh, all right. Well, there used to be one named Paul Vanden Bui-Nance. Are you hoping for like some guy named Gort or something? That would help me. Yeah, yeah. Well, past prime ministers, Gaston Ixsons or Mark X-Sens. I guess that was a bit of a dynasty.

Yeah. Anyway, that's not what this is about. This is just one of these things designed to seamlessly bridge the gap between the year to year as we try to build a series that functions perfectly seamlessly all the way through despite that there is an entire year in between every time. I'm of course talking about our haunted mansion series as we are joined as we have been all for all of Hauntcast the Fright by me, Scart the Clown, you Michael Richmond Myers and you Horneau the Candyman. Yeah, you know, last year I did listen back. and make a note that I was briefly Benjamin Bud. I don't remember.

Now there's the thing I don't remember. I don't remember how we got there and why. Well, because I said I had Benjamin Button disease. Okay. And I believe Mike yelled out, no, you're Benjamin Bud.

That seems a little bit of random. Wasn't there? There's had to be a little connective tissue there somewhere. Maybe not? I, it was, again, a very quick run. It's confusing because in the last year,

if you're the kind of listener who only listens to the, and not everything else we do. It's really been in the last year that Mike has been trying to rev up the old sleaze bag that he believed that claims that Horneau the Candyman once was. That name may be even a way

to try to rev it up. But I guess you're doing it last year with Benjamin Butt too. Wow, okay. So maybe it goes back farther than I remember. I don't remember why I said, I mean, I know I understand button and butt. I get that, but I'm just saying,

was there an extra thing? He'll be talking about butts on the haunted Manchin episode? I don't think so. No, I was talking about how I was aging backwards like Benjamin Button and I believe you said like more like Benjamin Butt or something like that's really all it was. Yeah, it was just that. Something else. I could be wrong, but I swear there's one other it's like a comedy club heckle. Yeah. Like Benjamin Butt. I mean, I'm not saying I wouldn't laugh at that. I'm just saying I feel like it was the next step. I know. And I think we all did laugh at it when it was. Yeah, maybe it was. Maybe brought up. Maybe I just did it. Well, you know,

I can't be responsible. Anyway, the more dignified name of Corno. Horno, Hornow. Horno, not corno. Yeah, I said Horno. After Horno, the Hornow Plenty, that's where it came from. Here we'll try to, like, plant the seeds and connect the dots. Horns of Plenty.

Horno Plenties, yes. But, you know, as in every year of this series, I think there's, you know, you can tell that there's been a lot of personal growth, a lot of change between the episodes. Here is we enter the eighth year. of the Haunted Mansion series. It has been, I mean, you talk about how we've changed. I mean, the first time we did one of these, there were no children among us.

Now there are three. Yeah. When we first began this, all of us were in our 30s. We now are all in our 40s, despite looking very youthful and despite our interest in Youngblood, but not his music. That's correct. Is he no artist? Tom.

Again, I'm curious where you'll be with Youngblood by then. if you will continue to avoid his music, but be interested in him as a person. We'll see, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see in Haunted Mansion 9. It's really the stats when you start stacking them up. I mean,

this is a series that has stretched across increasingly worse Trump presidencies. And I hope we'll see increasingly more kick-ass avatar sequels. That's what we're going to find out in six weeks. You know, back when we were dealing with the Hapbox Ghost, we were six weeks away from Way of Water and now we're about to meet Varang and Palak you know we're gonna meet all our buddies

and Fire and Ash and Miley Cyrus original Avatar song has just learned has just been teased as James Cameron the one thing about the franchise that's weird and incoherent the musical identity yeah that changes radically every time

is that is that like a whole lover from the 90s of like every movie soundtrack had like one big single They spent all the money on one big single. I was texting friend of the show, Van Roeb's show, about this very issue. And that's exactly what he said. I don't consider this an incoherent thing.

I consider this like a, you know, as James Cameron is the last man standing blockbuster-wise. It is kind of a hearkening back to the era of Kiss from a Rose and the big songs from the movies. Titanic. Assuming, yes, yeah, indeed. Yeah, he really had the biggest. Will the Miley Cyrus song be the new? My Heart will go on. Again, something to assess next year.

I don't know. We'll see, yeah. We'll see. There's lots to see. But you know what? Just as we are sure to see a lot of conflict between the Ash people and Jake Sully, there is always with this series a lot of conflict among us. Oh, okay.

You know, I don't know how you guys are feeling today, but I, you know, it's somebody feels sort of in the past, but, you know, maybe it's not in the past for somebody who just listens to the haunted mansion seven. Right. And I feel like a couple things need to be addressed. You know, it's been a tumultuous series for us, interpersonally, and, you know, that swings wildly with each year. You know, just to recap things really quick, you know, this series was my idea. It was my idea to cover the Haunted Mansion every year for Halloween. And this year on actual Halloween, it's one of those.

Right, right. People are hearing it if it drops. But, you know, at various times I've had questions about, you know, the pace that we're going or the level of minutia of the series. that kind of thing. But even that sort of feels a little bit far in the past because last year, talking about your personal growth,

that was probably the biggest personal growth that there's been in the entire series. If you guys even recall that far back. I listened to the whole episode a few times.

You just did. Jason, Jason. I mean, Jason wasn't a song. He listened to, yeah, selectively. But I think you will... Oh, yeah, I missed the biggest part. Yeah.

It's important. The assignment. The assignment. But the, But the big, I think that was impossible to miss is that, you know, after a lot of years of going, maybe we need to go faster, maybe we need to go faster. Last year was the year that I finally realized you guys have been right all along and that it was time to start taking our time as we go room to room and time to slow down. Let's slow down finally. And that was a result of becoming changed Scott. Right. It was really the dominant narrative of haunted mansion seven. And here, now I thought that was going to be exactly what you guys. wanted what you've been dreaming of the whole time sure but then what i found you know i come in with all the you know a changed man and you guys were just more on edge than ever you you thought i was gonna like hurt you or kill you i thought they ended up being strangely more tense than the other

it's like side show bob when he said he was good all of a sudden that's what and he was what i mean i assume it was undone in later years but in that case yes he was not trying to kill barton lisa but Bart and Lisa just couldn't trust him for at least most of the episode. Well, I am also a nerve now because I don't think I've ever seen you coming without a bag and a laptop. But I have a laptop today.

Well, look, you know, that's a little thing. I'm trying to, I'm trying to pare down. I'm trying to simplify. Nothing to be unnerved to be. See, once again, we're just like, you know, the weird, weird spike of, and what I'm trying to do is like ease the tensions here at the top,

especially, you know, given the even greater run of personal growth that I've gone on in the last year, much greater than the year before that. Sure. And what struck me in this year of personal growth is I don't blame you guys at all for how you responded to change Scott. I completely understand. After like, after dealing with me for seven of these, like, I know exactly where you were coming from. Because here's the thing. changed Scott was still at the end of the day Scott you know don't you think I mean that really the thing was I I didn't change enough I didn't go far enough

right and true meaningful change is never going to come to this haunted mansion series until I am honestly and sincerely a different guy right that's what that's what I've landed on That's what I think. This is intense. Jason's looking behind him, waiting for... Again, I don't know what you're... I don't know what you're after, but that's okay. But, because that's...

Look, it's all water under the bridge, especially because... Is there a Minotar waiting in that hallway for... I don't know why that would be... A trigger word. Look, I know that's something that has happened. I know that's something that has happened in the past. But again, this is... That was several Scots ago.

This is a... We're heading for a whole new Scott here. Okay. And I think one... I think here's what I'm vowing today. Okay. A change that is far beyond anything that you've witnessed from me. So called change, Scott, that's going to pale in comparison to what you're going to be dealing with today.

Real change, palpable change, that you and the listeners cannot possibly ignore. You, Michael, you Horneau, you are going to experience the change today. And I'm really, I'm very excited about it. Do you feel good about this? You know what? I'm willing, I'm opening up my heart. I'm willing to accept this change into my heart Okay

I'm willing to yeah I think it's fine I think it's good I've accepted it into mine Yeah and I and there's I see no reason why you shouldn't accept it I think I think you're gonna be very happy with the way Great but you know by the end of this episode sure you're gonna be very very happy Jason are you feeling good I am curious as to where this wind up is going okay because you can be going that way whatever if you want to view it as a wind up you know I just view it as is as because I got a gentle ripping about wind-ups on a recent episode

and now the shoe is on the other foot if you want to rib me for what for if this is a wind up I don't want to speak to that all I can speak from is from my heart and that's what I'm doing but there's still there is there's something that I that I want to do and need to do before the change can truly sit in

okay if you'll allow if I here's what I I'm going to propose. You guys just, you keep rolling, talk amongst yourselves. I'm just going to, I'm just going to step out for a minute. And I, you know, maybe you were right to look at the door. Maybe you knew that, you know, that I was going to need, I was going to need a second. I'm just going to, I'm just going to, I'm just going to, I'm just going to, I'm just going to, like, take a breather, maybe splash some water on my face, just kind of like connect with the change that, that I've been going through. And then, then, once that has happened, I promise you guys, I promise you both. Yeah.

A different guy is going to watch. in that door. Okay. A different, a different guy. I promise you this. This is what you've been asking for for, I don't know what that,

I don't know what that laugh referred to. I guess I'm getting, I'm getting ribbed and if that's what it is, but I take it very seriously. Sure. And I accept any response that you guys have to this. But so that's, that's what I'm going to propose here.

Sure. You know, you guys, just keep it, as I said, just keep it rolling, talk amongst yourselves, about whatever you, you know,

if you want to start digging into the haunted mansion, go ahead. If you want to, if you want to talk about young blood, but not his music, you know, go right ahead. I redeemed two. Collins is back in New York, so I know it's not him.

I readeem to him, I don't know what. Well, I just need to, I just need to talk about, I just want to talk about McDonald's while you're going. That's perfect. Okay, okay. That's right. I think that's perfect and that's valid. Yeah.

And I'll, you know, I'll leave you to it and I'll give you a minute. I will give myself a minute. And then, guys, real change. Real change is finally, this is exciting. Year 8 is the year of change. And I feel, I feel great about it. I hope you guys feel great about it, too. This is exciting.

I feel so good about it. Yeah. Fantastic. Okay. You left your water here. But I guess she's coming back, so he'll take his water, yeah. Huh. So I got two McDonald's breakfast sandwiches.

I don't think he's coming back. What? I think he's just leaving. You think he sprung a secret, fries on us? He didn't have any stuff. He always comes in with a bag. That is good. That's a good detective work.

You're right about that. It would be funny if he just left. I think that is what he's going to do. I think so because we. can just... I think this is going to be an epic prank. I mean, waste not, whatnot, but we can either reuse or throw that water bottle away. Well, sure.

You could drink it. Yeah. Or Bug Main's going to walk in. That's what I think's going to happen. Yeah. That's my best guess, or he's faking it out. Anyway, I got two redemptions on breakfast sandwiches today. Yeah, how did you do that?

You just, just 15 minutes between redemptions. And I have a bunch from the McDonald's Monopoly. So, have you played? Okay. Have you played McDonald's Monopoly? I haven't played well. I thought it was back regionally. I wasn't sure it was back nationally.

What do you mean regionally? Like they were testing it out somewhere. Really? Why? No, it's back. I only kind of half caught the news. What kind of news sources are you watching? What am I watching?

I'm looking at the many snack accounts. But how would you not know then? That's what I'm saying. How would you not know that it was a nationwide campaign? I thought it was like a hypothetical. What? I didn't know. I haven't seen a TV commercial.

This is shocking to me, honestly. I haven't, I've been watching baseball, like baseball seasons wrapping up. I haven't seen any McDonald's commercials. Oh, wait. Hello. Hey, is this new, new Scott? Hey, a guy Selga has walked in. Hello, yes.

Scott has summoned me. I received his sympathetic vibrations. Oh, my gosh. Wow. And I materialized. Oh, interesting. Hey, guy. A new guy.

An actual guy. An actual new. guy, literal guy. Wow. So, um, I guess do you just want to start from the beginning of haunted mansion? Oh, wow. Raleigh Crump with the Museum of the Weird. Oh, sorry, you guys are a little bit more ahead. We're a little bit more ahead, but if you want to go back, because, you know, Scott isn't, I suppose Scott has just went home right now, which is, so I guess we could really start at the beginning. Here's what I, I mean, look, you look like you have a lot of, like, notes and stuff prepared, but I think we can start wherever we want. Well, I mean, you know, I, you know, Scott,

Scott is gone. Scott has gone. So we should say, legitimately, I believe Scott has left the building and has sent Guy Selga in. You want to give your credits. I mean, you work for touring plans. You've been on podcast to ride a few times. Yes. Scott, as I was walking in and he gave me the signal, I saw his car drive off dust and leaves blown in the air like a cartoon.

He was gone so fast. It's not even that dusty. Yeah. We're windy out right now. I don't know how we did. So he was really hauling us. Yeah. I mean, you know, Scott's not here, though, so we can get sidetracked just a little bit.

We could get really sidetracked. Can I call the wife and tell her I may not be coming home on time? Because we really can spread out here. Can I talk about a puppet real quick? Yeah, do you have a puppets of? Yeah. We should say, just for your credentials, if people don't know, you are a man who works in Disneyland, what, five days out of the week? Too many.

Yeah, Disney blogging, Disney writing, Disney wait time collecting is much. Are we keeping you from Disneyland? You know, some things are more important than collecting the current wait time for the Matterhorn. Okay. Sure. But like this, yeah, you were summoned here today. So appears that you are now subbing in for Scott. This is truly news to Jason and I.

We were not prepared for this. We're happy to see you. This is great. This will be really fun. Yeah. I mean, I was fully prepared to, like, extend the episode by talking about my. experience is with the newer accessible loading and unloading. Well, we can get there, which I'm sure we'll get there.

That's fascinating. Yeah. So, yeah, that's an interesting topic. Well, they read it a hallway, apparently. Yeah. Well, so, okay. There's an elevator. Now that we've said that and we've reset, I think we're ready to go.

Let's, whatever you were about to say, let's, let's get into it with the haunted mansion. Oh, you know, I know, I know Mike, you love puppets and Jason, you're an appreciator of puppets. Sure, yeah. And I actually re-listened to the Mike gets all this puppet puppet business. out of the out of his uh sure that was a club three suggestion on the patreon i re listened to that to make sure you didn't mention this one so this is uh rod hall and emu okay so here's a couple pictures of rod hall and emu um i don't know if if one of you wants to describe uh mr hall and

well emu is like a i mean i guess is it an emu is it the animal an emu which looks kind of like a crane or like a goose or something yes it is a giant emu very furry with a big yellow beak and big pac-man eyes i guess you can describe that as sure so rod hall is uh he is a mild-mannered fellow right and emu is of course the comic uh comic relief really sure yeah uh but he's mute but his whole thing is he pecks at people and he attacks them right and emu is uncontrollable by rod hall so um he was uh he was very he got very big in the uk okay and the videos i watched of emu and rod hall the audience was laughing at it like it was the first time they discovered laughing oh it was the funniest thing they'd ever seen right

there was just a fall like crazy yeah and uh so some of his antics so rod hall uh was uh doing a show which the royal mother was at. Okay. Is that the queen? The queen's mother. Oh, wow. Why wouldn't she be the queen? That's a good question.

I don't really know how anything in the UK works. We'll figure this out in a different haunted mansion episode. That'll be a Club 3. That'll be an exclusive for the listener if they want to pay us money to hear us, like, stammer our way through the hierarchy of the English monarchy. So, yeah, the royal mother attended a performance. And Rod Hall gave her a bouquet of flowers and the emu snatched it back. Ah, that wily emu. Yeah, just a total scamp.

So the funniest example I found, so just like I said, huge in the UK. Right. Was the queen mom the into it? Oh, yeah. She appreciate the bit. She was all smiles. Great. So huge in the UK, not so much in the U.S., but he got a gig on the Johnny Carson show.

Oh, wow. With the specific instructions to not touch Johnny or the guest. guest Richard Pryor who had just gotten facial reconstruction surgery. Right, from getting lit on fire. Right. Yeah. So what do you think Emu did? He attacked his face.

He attacked both of them. U.S. career did not take off after that. Wow. Johnny did not look happy if you look up that clip. Johnny was a mean guy. Yeah. So Rod Hall, very successful in the 70s and then in the 80s, I think, a lot of people just kind of woke up and were like,

maybe this isn't the funniest thing we've ever seen. So he had bought a huge mansion at the height of his career and then had to sell it and downgrade. Oh, no. And, you know, since we're talking about the haunted mansion and, you know, mortality and all that. Right.

Mr. Hall died by going on his roof and adjusting his antenna because the signal was going out when him and his son were trying to watch a soccer game. Oh, no. And he fell off the roof and he passed away. No, right. So, sorry to be a downer. Wow.

But it was a mansion and a death, so it does tie into the topic. Exactly. And I thought that's why this would be a good public to bring up. Although he fell off his regular house's roof, not the mansion's roof. But still, they're both related. Well, no, it sounds like his regular house was kind of mansion-esque. Does it? Didn't you say he bought it at the height of his...

But he said he downgraded. Oh, he downrated. I guess I don't know how big the new house was. I lost track of Rod Hall's house in housing. That's okay. That's me. Well, I love learning about a new puppet and puppet man. I love the idea that a man could buy a mansion off the success of a puppet that just got into mischief.

That didn't even talk. That didn't even talk. It wasn't a ventriloquist. Yeah, it didn't have to do voices or anything. Didn't have to come up with a character. Just grabbed his crotch every once in a while and people loved it. Simpler time, I suppose. Yeah.

But maybe that's still possible to come up with some sort of puppet. I'm thinking for myself here, come up with some sort of an animal that just gets into mischief. and then I could buy a mansion one day. As long as I don't want to attack a talk show host. I think we're ripe for that as a society, a new puppet. A new mischievous puppet. Wow. Well, thank you for bringing that up.

Did you know about this before listening to the Mike Gets all the puppet business out of a system episode or were you just like inspired to look into famous puppets? This was one of those random YouTube recommendations that said like, the puppet ruined his life. And I was like, I, you know, I'm trying to work here, but I got to click on that. That is a good clickbait title of the puppet ruined his life. Which I don't know how often that happens if a puppet ruined your life, but... Sherry Lewis isn't saying that. Sherry Lewis would not say that.

And her daughter, Mallory, is definitely not saying that. Keeping it alive, keeping the spirit alive. You know, it does feel good to say Mallory Lewis and not feel like we have to rush past it. I will say that. With Scott not being here, I say Mallory Lewis and I just get two big smiles reflected back at me. Of course. You know, not a glare. like when Scott's here.

And the millions at home smiling at their podcast. Right. And everyone, of course, understanding why we're talking about this. Well, this is great. I mean, we'll weave in maybe more puppet talk throughout this whole episode, this haunted mansion eight episode. If you can think of any other puppets we haven't covered on the show, I'd love to hear them. Or points talk, you know, I'm all into points too.

Points Talk, too. Great. Can you believe Jason Sheridan, we were dialoguing when Scott left, we were dialoguing. He didn't know that there was a monopoly McDonald's going on. right now. Oh, I've been signing up for the free every single day. Me too. My girlfriend, shout up Jenny, shout out. Jenny. She's been doing it every day also. You can get 10 free coup, 10 free codes every day. Of course, I know. Jason, I have so much free McDonald's food. It's truly sickening. Have you seen they limit you to one every 15 minutes though? Guy, I know how to get around

this. Really? You place an order at home, you wait 15 minutes, you go to the store, and as soon as you park, place another order immediately. It's so obvious. My hand is on my forehead. And you could go inside and I believe if you go to the kiosk and scan your phone it doesn't even count. So I think you may be able to do three, four. You really can go to town. I did two today just by driving to two different

McDonald's. That's brilliant because one of the prizes is only four chicken McNuggets. And that's not enough. Well it's not, well I'm a smaller guy. So it's enough for me. But I'm probably, I feel like

one of my default orders is one cheeseburger and four McNuggets because one of those is going to be free. They're always given those away. Of course. Well, I don't mean to make Jason feel bad that you didn't know about this. It's my fault, Jason. I should have told you to make sure you were... You were ill for a few days. We shifted this around.

Sure, but I'm well aware. I've been Yeah, sorry about that if you got pushed. Oh, yeah. I just moved your schedule. I'm sorry about that. I turned around on the five freeway and came right back on. Oh my God. I didn't even think about that. I honestly, I wasn't even that sick, but I just wanted to make sure I didn't get anyone sick. So I said, oh, since we don't have a guest today, we can...

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gift shop that have gone in and then we would we would be done we would be done talking about the haunted mansion i think i proposed the Disneyland haunted mansion of course and then i proposed the following year we would sort of do an imaginering exercise where we all went in and separately decided what we like what we don't like. I feel like it wasn't that well received by my two co-hosts, but I'm not saying they were against it. No, I actually do. I, that makes sense to me. And I. So that discussion, we'll see if we do that next year. I would like to do, but we'll see. But anyway, so we are at the hitchhiking ghost part, which is obviously one of the biggest, most iconic moments of the haunted mansion. I think no one doesn't like, yes, the crypt, thank you.

That's the more specific way, place. So I think we should just maybe start there and then go outside to the gift shop and the queue. That's the way I'm thinking of it. I will say this. The ghosts have names, these hitchhiking ghosts. Now, if you're not familiar with this, three ghosts who are hitchhiking, your doom buggy twirls around. You see these three silly-looking ghosts, they got their thumbs out. Your doom-bucky whips around to these like mirror-looking things. And these ghosts now are in your car. They're in the buggies themselves. And yes, the ghosts are going to follow you home. That's the gag. it's been that way forever the Disneyland they haven't really changed

that effect in Disneyland ever I don't think Right it's different other places But in Disneyland it's sort of the same It's what do you probably know the specific effect they're using here Is it just a mirror Is it just a two way mirror

The mirror with the physical prop inside Of course in Florida it's all projected I mean would you even call it projected But CG I guess yeah it's CG Right there's I wanted to say one thing to a couple things there have been so many

pieces of merchandise throughout the years where with the hitchhiking ghosts where it says three thumbs up and I'm like has nobody actually seen these ghosts their thumbs are clearly sideways their hands are sideways they're hitchhiking they're not giving thumbs up like it's

right and then another thing is with the names you mentioned yes which are which are unofficial yes and kind of became official sort of. Yes. And I wanted to be sure to bring up Fox Nalti, the author of Boundless Realm. Oh, okay. Probably the best book ever written about Haunted Mansion, the most in-depth book. It's wonderful. She says that these names probably came from cast members originally, and then they kept spreading from generation to generation, and then eventually Disney just said, screw it, and made them the official names. Much like the Sally Slater, the stretching portrait names.

Right, yes. No one had names before because it wasn't important at all. Yes. And these are, what, Gus? Ezra. Ezra. Ezra. And Phineas.

And Phineas. And I guess we could describe what the three look like. Yes. There's the contrast between them, almost like the podcast, the ride hosts. Or the chipmunks. Or the Chippmunks. Or the Henson brothers. Yes, especially the same thing, basically.

But the first one is what we base the logo for the series. Yes, yes, yes. And they're very, I mean, these are outside of what, the bride and the hatbox ghost. These are like the famous ghosts, I would say. Yeah. And I mean, speaking of the had box ghosts, I think one of them has a very similar face. Yes, which one is that? It's Ezra, I think.

Ezra, yes. The face was reused The face was reused throughout the ride, I think. Yeah. And that multiple ghosts in haunted mansion have been used in other things. The grandma in the party scene, for example, is the grandma from Carousel of Progress.

Oh, sure. Oh, yeah, right, right, right. I have read that before. Yeah. I mean, this is the thing I think as a kid that I liked the most, just from your child brain. Because, like, the idea that the ghosts

are sitting next to you was fun and scary. and these guys you can see these guys so much more clear I feel like than most of the ghosts in the graveyard so you do get

more personality from them because they're much more clear and then they're just showcased a lot more than the party scene of the graveyard yeah it's almost like you can reach out

and touch them it's very yes yeah yes can I say something and I don't want to okay I don't like the names

no I don't either okay you don't so this is not an unpopular thing Jason what do you feel about these names I don't love It feels a little heavy-handed of, like, old-timey names, gang.

This is good, because I thought I was maybe going to be in the minority here. But for years, I have never really even thought, like, I know I don't like them, but I've never really thought through why I don't like them. But I did spend a lot of time the last few days thinking about why don't I like these. And I think it's because Mansion and Pirates specifically, most of the characters I like have a very generic sounding title. It's the bride,

it's the auctioneer, it's, or yeah, the redhead. It's hatbox ghost. That's not like a proper name. Yeah. That's just like a description. So these three having real first names bothers me. It's like Star Wars where you started out in the 70s

and, you know, it was Walrus Man, but now his name is. Oh, yeah, right, right. Stuff like that. They gave all of those characters. in the background, just every random character and official name. It's like, no, I want to call him yak face. Come on.

Right. Is this popular thinking in Disney like fandom? I think it was like, it speaks to everybody wanting to be in the know. Right. I'm like, oh, I'm a hardcore, I know their name. Do you know their name, Normie? No,

you don't. Right. I will say I love their vibes. Yeah, oh yeah. Don't get me wrong. The carpet bag and the ball and chain and like all that stuff is great yes they're great ghosts don't get me wrong i'm i'm just saying that the naming of them and then the recent like merchandise with the actual names has bothered me and i haven't put it together why until this week yeah and that is what it is i feel like it's i feel like we need more generic names or generic descriptions really you just want like hatbox

ghost i don't need hatbox ghost to be named like brian that would be a bummer it was it was like You said bummer. It was like why Solo a Star Wars story was a bummer. It's like... Too much. We don't need to know any of this. This is all stupid. Right.

When he's like, oh, you're traveling solo, huh? And then the dice in the cockpit, it's like... Oh, the dice. Are we supposed to know what these are? The dice. Don't get me started on Solo a Star Wars. Or the holograph, the force projection dice that Luke puts in to Leia's hand in Last Jedi. he hands remember luke's a force ghost in last jett i hands lea hans dice before he goes out in the middle

and fights kaila ren and it's but it's he's not there he's a ghost so he hands her anyway i'm sorry but uh to last jadda of all of it but yeah so i'm like this does taint these three great ghosts yeah and i want to take it back can we unofficial can we unname them is that been ever done in the history of Disney Parks. Somebody, some character had a name and we take it back. Yeah, I agree.

I'm for this. Because, like, these should just be the hitchhiking ghosts. That's what, that's who they are. We don't need names for them. They don't need,

we put our own, we put our own lore into it. Every guest puts their own lore into all the ghosts. I like, I will say a name. I like Madame Leota. But that's, yes, I agree with that.

Madam Leota, but that is different. I don't know why, but that's different. Maybe because it's original. That feels different to me. Yeah. Yeah, and the original creators thought of the name.

Yes, that's why that does make it more right, I feel like. Yeah. I do, okay, I do like the pickwick. I do like the name pickwick. Yes. So that contradicts that. But there's a couple exceptions. But on pirates, are there any other than Captain Jack, are there any characters with like names?

Or is it just like dirty foot pirate or pig in the pig slot pirate? Yeah. Do they name the mayor? I don't remember. I don't know. It doesn't come to mind that I've ever heard it. But yeah, that's a good point. Like, we don't need to know any of these fools names.

Right. We just have to see them tomfoolery. Right. It's more fun the other way. Yeah. And maybe if all the old Imagineers named them would feel better. If it's like internal and it's like, oh, that's rod. And so there's something wrong.

We need to repair rod. And so that gives someone to shorthand to go like, oh, animatronic number six in that room. Yeah, that makes total sense. That makes sense. Right, but we don't want, is there? So, like, I'm trying to think wrong.

Tiki Room, those characters are named. They've always been named. They have their little name tag. Just the four. Just the four, yeah. And Rosita. That's all we need. Just the security council,

the UN Security Council of Tiki birds. Of Victors and World War II. What other old? Yeah, there's a prospect around Big Thunder. I'm just trying to think of things before, like, 19, what, 80? Yeah, the goat on Big Thunder. The goat on Big Thunder. We don't know the goat on Big Thunder's name now is Stu.

And his mom died in the grove. This is, and this is the danger because we do love C. We do love Society of Explores and Adventures and we like some of that linkage and especially the Tokyo Disney stuff that from the get-go, they had that lore built into this like, oh, Harrison High Tower and this. So I think maybe it ends up being just like the original creators of the ride have to put the stamp on it or it doesn't quite feel authentic. Or it's a nod to them like Barnabas T. Bullion. That's true.

That's a new thing that I do like. That's a good one. But that's an exception. Yeah. Remember, even with C though, if you go to Disney Sea and Fortress Explorations, there's paintings of all the original C members and it's like Galileo and Leonardo and all that. So these were real people that were members, and then Disney started to add on Harrison High Tower and... So you're saying that came a couple years later? Yeah.

Oh, okay. Because Tower Terror opened, I believe, in 2005 or six. The Tokyo version. Yeah, the Tokyo version, yeah. So they added... So initially it was just they had used real people in their, like, fun little evil club. Yeah. And then started adding fictional.

There's one random evil dude for some reason. Yeah. Well, they're all, I mean, there's colonizer. and there's evil hotel owners. Yeah. So that is, it's interesting, though. Because is Leonardo da Vinci still in it? Or has he been retconed out of sea?

Well, now I don't think they officially mention the real people anywhere. But when you go into Fortress Explorations, they're still their paintings. Okay. So, yeah, I think they've been retconned out because anytime they show like a picture of all the members, I don't think you see any, I don't think you see Galileo. Do you know the original list off the top of your head? Not off the top of my head. But was like Plato in there? was Albert Einstein in sea?

That's a good question. We'll have to look into that. That's interesting. I didn't realize that. I thought some of that was more baked in initially. So that is an exception too, I guess. Newer Imagineers, although it's within a couple years. So something else about the hitchhiking ghosts.

Like in the Jason Sorrell book, there's a lot of Mark Davis concept art of like ghosts that didn't make it in. Yes, right, right, right. One of them smoking a big stogie. over here oh you would hate them man if they were Jason hates it once people are smoking big stogies I don't like cigars that irritate my eyes because of the Jersey shore

yeah because people would smoke like the nastiest cigaros or cigars Jason would be lounging at the beach now you're not now you can't smoke on the beach in Jersey and I think a lot of places Jason vacationed at a place called CEO Beach as a child where CEOs

would be surrounding them smoking big stogies It was not the cave. Anyway. Well, you know they would be pumping in that smell in the ride, too. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Right, right. Yeah.

Anyway, you were saying, Jason. Oh, but the one thing, the one hitchhugging ghosts that didn't make it, there's kind of like a, trying to make this big enough. So you can see, there's kind of one that's more like a classic ghost, like the sheet ghost in the middle there. And he made it to a concept art. He made it to a mechette. but did not make it in the ride. Are there, what is the closest, that's a great question.

What is the closest to like a sheet ghost in the haunted mansion, a classic like Charlie Brown, great pumpkin costume, guy with a sheet over him? By the opera band in the graveyard scene, in the little crypt to the right of them, there's a spooky, wavy.

Oh, okay. I can't even picture that. Let me look and see if I can find it online. I wanted to say, too, so this also comes from Fox Nalti again, The official, they didn't have official names until the early 2000s. And then in the 2010s, their tombstones were added outside the ride. In the original maintenance logs from when the ride opened, they were known as Little Man, Skeleton, and Hunchback.

Yeah, that works. Yeah, I like it more. Hunts, I mean, yeah, Little Man, Skeleton. Yeah, because the middle guy is skeleton-faced. Yeah. Can I make a Jason-style deep pool reference here? Please, go ahead. With the multiple faces being used on multiple ghosts,

or the same face being used on multiple ghosts. What do they think they are? Frank Nelson? So that's an actor who is in all seasons of I Love Lucy as multiple characters, including Freddie Fillmore. He was, of course, he would say, yes.

Exactly. and then he like he's multiple roles and then his final one was the ricardo's neighbors when they moved to connecticut yes right i forget who was he married to forget the actress he was married to on that and then he's in a lot of things you can find a good frank nelson like super cut online yeah he did his yes and a lot of things including he was in the uh tootsie roll commercial oh yeah it was like mr owl or he's one of those animated characters and he goes yes and the famous one were like how many lixes take to get this center of a tootsie roll. And I never realized that was him, but you can find go, look up Frank Nelson super cuts. Please do. That was a great pull. I'm something for Mike, something for me.

Yeah. I mean, anytime I can talk about anything I love Lucy related, I, so you're on a Lucy train. Oh. So have we made podcasts the ride for you specifically? Is that what you're telling us? Yeah. Well, I mean, I will say my favorite episode is the Lucy a tribute episode. Oh, is it? Okay. Even though I got a couple things wrong. Well, you know, nobody's perfect. Yeah. So I really. Yeah, but I got a nice handwritten note and a souvenir spoon out of that so it all worked out if anyone else has souvenir spoons

to send a Jason please send them care of Forever Dog and you could find the address Yes just be careful delivery times are getting weird out here yes but yes I mean make sure to mark on the package They're just going very late delivery companies in LA

be at UPS or the Post Service or FedEx are delivering later and later in the evening after buildings close and it's becoming a problem. Jason's calling out the hardworking UPS drivers for being late and I think that's... No, their union, not calling out the FedEx driver. But if you, if you send Jason a spoon, you know, obviously write the address, pay the postage, and then just write in big Sharpie, spoon for Jason on the outside. I think they'll make it a priority to deliver that. They love cryptic words on the outside of envelopes. Delivery companies love that.

four you can write it they'll like it they'll all have a chuckle because there'll be so many spoons coming in i think that all the drivers will recognize it and they'll all have a chuckle together oh another spoon for jason it's just going to be a million of those sticky like we tried to reach you like once on the front door it's got to be covered in that right because they delivered after apm yeah and if you send in a spoon jason will upload a video of him eating like pudding with it yes he will you're right guy he will do that that that Every spoon he gets, very good plus-up. I'm glad Scott left because we wouldn't have had that plus-up. Retroactively have to take out my souvenir spoons. We're going to have to get you a tub of pudding when we get all these spoons in. Custard bread pudding, you know, whatever. Oh, any type of pudding. I have one.

Jane gave me one for Christmas one year. A pudding spoon? No, a little souvenir Disney World spoon. Oh, okay. Or Disneyland spoon. It's on my desk, and I bought one of those little small. stands for it so you can stand it up a spoon stand a spoon a spoon a souvenir spoon stand the only thing is the Disneyland and singdale is too big to fit uh in the carve out what does your spoon

stand look like is it a little like I see like this just it's just a little like this right it's just a no that's Mike that's a shelving unit that's a big cabinet for all your decorative spoons which you're going to need once the listener's just a little clear plastic stand Okay, it's just one stand for one spoon. I didn't know you could buy a single spoon display stand. I wonder how the spoon display stand industry is going these days. Well, Jason's keeping them in business. Yeah.

Guy, do you have any souvenir spoons? You have a lot of, like, memorabilia merchandise from the parks. Yeah, I think I have a Tokyo Disneyland one from the 80s that I picked up. There's definitely a lot of 50s, 60s, 70s, Disneyland and Disney World was on eBay though. That's definitely an old look no shade but that's an older person's

collectible I believe like all those cabinets who were looking at those looked like they would be in your grandma's house that for sure for Disney World 70th that was one of the ones they did a dupe of like classic souvenirs the Mickey Backscratcher

souvenir plate souvenir spoon and like I can't remember I may have bought one or two things, but, like, when I was in there looking at it, I pulled up eBay and just searched for it. And all the originals are, like, a third of the price on eBay. I was just going to say that, like, with the Disneyland 70s stuff, too.

Like, they reproduced all this stuff, and you can just go on eBay and get the original. Like, there's a visor in Disneyland right now that is, like, very 80s-looking. Right. And it's $37, and you could just go on eBay and get one for $15. Yeah. Right.

Is that, but like, yeah, just a bootleg version of it, or is it, or legit? No, like a legit, original. Yeah, like I have a metal tray at home that's a Disney World trail. I think you got someone gave me a Florida version of that. Yeah, so I have that as well, yeah. So anyway, do they sell spoons, decorative spoons in the parks anymore? I don't. Probably somewhere.

They had, but that's what I was saying for the 70, they won very elaborate. souvenir spoon and it was like in a big box and it may have came with a pen and it's like this is kind of missing the point of like a simple tiny souvenir you could bring someone you know what they do now is those keys not not the the big plastic ones that light up and stuff but like little decorative keys of of like space mountain and it's got really space mountain on the on the on the near the end or the key poles would got it away i haven't seen these at all are they key chain kind of fit but they're like too big

to fit in that one of key chain right they're meant to put on a shelf yeah yeah huh okay

well we're gonna have to look into that I mean don't send those to Jason just send the spoons but I'm gonna have to look into the keys

do not make Jason eat pudding with a key no no that would be that's getting into like the senator who was eating a salad

with a comb or something was there a whatever yeah what's her face the mean one who was like all the rumors few of them.

They were, it was bad to work. She was hard to work for. She would throw binders and staplers. She ran for president. I'm just totally blank. We'll have to look into this who ate salad with a comb. Yeah, that was a big thing during the last Democratic. I actually never heard that.

Two Democratic primaries ago. All right. Well, back to the ghost. All right, back to the ghost. Yes, so she ghost didn't make it in. He's pretty cool looking. There was talk also of like a four. ghost that could have made it in there but they three they felt like was a better

whatever so which ghost do you guys like to get when he oh when we get in the yeah that's a great question oh the little guy I think so yeah yeah with the with the long beard yeah he's he's my favorite and you you you pretend to stroke his beard and yeah he seems the most kind yeah oh yeah Ezra's a little intimidating well you're using his name I think we shouldn't use their name sorry I think that we are trying to It's a little intimidating. I like skeleton, I think. I think I like the skeleton man.

If you start using a ghost's real name, you might summon another one like Scott summoned me. Oh, right. That's a good point. Yeah. So we don't want to do that. We want to keep using these old names. Because, yeah, I think that,

I think what it is is I like, skeleton, I guess, since he's the thinnest, I like feeling like he could fit for real. In between, if you're sitting, like, two people in there. So I think I like that more Because I am trying to I think you will see that I'll kind of nudge And like leave room for the ghost too

Yeah Because I do want to believe I mean this is part of it I want to believe in UFOs It does feel like we're closer to disclosure every day It feels good to say that when Scott's gone We can talk UFOs He doesn't matter

Can we talk about Dan Ackford We could talk about Dan Aykroy But I want ghosts to be real I want aliens I want all of it And I'm open to it So I think I like skeleton Because it My brain can get tricked

a little bit into me like he's here he's sitting with us wow there's a documentary coming to netflix is that right about about disclosure you oh i think it's going to be in theaters geo and i think are going to go oh okay i think we're going to go see it yeah i don't know it's interesting there's uh there's a lot of things floating around right now and there's some people that are like oh my god we're days away from people admitting yeah yeah yeah there's aliens we got him here they are can you imagine the dan acroyd video when he's proven correct about all this God, it's all I want. Because, yeah, he's proven, yes, he's getting, he looked a little cookier 15 years ago whenever Christmas with a crank shot when he shot that interview with the guy asking him about UFOs.

But yeah, I want him to take a victory lap. I want him to be right about almost everything. And maybe, yeah, within a few days, he will be. But it's interesting. I want ghosts. I almost think UAP are more real than ghosts. I almost think like UFOs, whatever those things are, are real. I'm still not sure about ghosts.

Do you think aliens are real, guy? You know, I wouldn't be surprised if there's unexplained things in this big galaxy we live in. Look, I don't want to, it's kind of generic a statement. I mean, like, we just need a yes or no here. Have I been driving through the desert late at night sometimes and see something odd that I can't explain? This is what I want, yes. So the answer is yes. You do think so.

I wouldn't be surprised, but I, I, I believe, I want to, I want to believe. We're not talking just about, you were talking, uh, talking, posting about your Vegas, like, so you're in Vegas regularly. Yeah, my, my girlfriend lives there. Lives there. Okay. Yeah. So lucky. Do you find yourself driving?

Oh, yeah. To it. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. So do you, I mean, you were not, there's a place, uh, on the way to Vegas called alien jerky. Yeah. That is building a UFO hotel. Yeah.

It seems like it's been building it for like five years. I don't know the status. I haven't been out there in a little bit. I believe the owner of this alien jerky place is a guy, by the way. There's no doubt. I don't know that, but you said that and nothing felt truer to me than what you just said is that the man who owns a weird space station jerky store in the middle of the desert and is building a big UFO as a guy.

There's 100%. That's correct. He's not a name. He's a guy. Yeah. Not a guy like you, a guy guy. I went in there once and I picked up some of the jerky and it was like $27. It's expensive, yeah.

I sent some three packs home, I think, the one Christmas. I was at maybe 2020 Christmas, like, oh, here's a little extra fun thing. And because they have an Amazon store from where they would send, like, assortment packs and all. Yeah, so if you're on the way, if you're driving to or from Vegas toward L.A. or wherever, stop at Alien, it is worth a stop. Yeah. There's a bunch of weird stuff on the way, but you may as well. Well, and then also in competition in the in the jerky space on that road is Eddie World. Oh, I love Eddie World too.

Gas Station. Have you ever been to Eddie World, Jason? I think I've been to Eddie. Does I have the big, like, tower outside, like the big, a big Sunday. Sunday. Yeah, the big ice cream. I. Yeah, they don't sell ice cream sunda world. There's like half a block of bulk candy bins and stuff. A lot of bulk candy. Yeah, big ice cream Sunday, but they don't sell ice cream sundays inside. They do not. weird and they have a they have the largest piece of the lakers former floor that they won six championship oh really i didn't know this yeah wow it's huge it's in the back corner by the

the cooler there's definitely a like episode or two on the stuff to on the way to Vegas oh yeah yeah let me ask this we're talking about food yeah have you ever snuck a little treat onto the mansion and eaten or drank something. I am a Disneyland local. I've lived here my entire life. There used to be a candy cart outside of the exit of Parks the Caribbean. I would go and I would get Pop Rocks, Peanut M&Ms.

Wow, they would have just like a movie theater concession area. Yeah, just normal candy. And I was much younger, so I didn't have a lot of money, so I could afford these little candies. And yeah, I'd be going on Pirates the Caribbean, popping my pop rocks in. Oh, that sounds delightful. I mean, I think eating on pirates is even more fun than a mansion, but that both seem like good experiences.

You got to make sure the drops are done or else you could choke. Yeah, that's true. You could hurt yourself. I think I'll be all right. I think I could do a gobstopper while there was a, on the waterfall in the Pirates of Caribbean. I could, these rides are too dark. I would make, I've always been a messy boy. And I could not be trusted.

Oh, my God. You like ripping open a pixie stick right. before the waterfall on Pirates of the Caribbean. It sprays everywhere, hitting the whole, when the lights come back on, every guest is covered in blue pixie dust. Imagine you've got your bag of Eminem's, and you're just going to pour a bunch in your mouth,

like a drink. And then you get to the part of the Honda Mansion where you're going out of the attic, and you're laying back, and you just, Eminem's go everywhere, and they're clacking all over the place. Everybody's looking at you. What is the skull say right before you hit the drop on pirates?

Like, are there be treasure down? there whatever and Jason's like well time the break into this pudding cup opens it up right before the waterfall I forgot a spoon do any of you folks have a spoon hey blue by you've tossed me a spoon right down the waterfall and right into like some sort of snooty rich lady's hat or something does the pudding cup go once the dark when you putting cup and chlorinated water oh yeah if you get a bunch of a chlorinated water in your pudding cup yeah Well, it would clean the pudding if the pudding was dirty, I suppose. Would you do, so you're saying you would never eat?

Have you ever eaten on either of these rides? I'm sure I've taken a sip of water. Okay, but it sounds like you're anti-eating on these rides. Well, because I'm a good boy. You're not supposed to bring food and beverage on these attractions. You're not supposed to, but right now, like, the first thing that hits me and I've never done this, I don't think unless when I was a younger man, when I wore a younger man's clothes, to quote Jason, not Billy Joel. I would love to eat a roll of shock tarts on wanted mansion.

I just had like a hankering for shock tarts. You remember shock tarts, right? Yeah, of course. Yeah, Guy, are you a shock tarts fan? I like sour candies. I'm a fan, yeah. Do they still make these, right? Or no?

I don't know. Oh, it looks like they might not. Oh, this is heartbreaking. I'm learning this for the first time. They don't make shock tarts anymore? It looks like they're not making them. There's got to be some country out there. That's still a shock to us.

Yeah. Like in Belgium? Can you buy it in bulk? Because I've been watching people refill vending machines a lot on YouTube. Refill vending machines collect money. And it was so fascinating. See, like just a giant box of gumballs and then just the little card that goes in the gumball machine so you know what you're buying. And I'm like, wow, it's just a giant cardboard box with a plastic bag inside and just dumped.

it in. Wow. So maybe you can buy shock tarts in like giant box. I don't know. I'm not seeing it. I think they've been discontinued and this is upsetting to me. I don't remember the last roll of shock tarts I had, but basically like shock tarts were like sweet tarts but more sour and they were like a shinier exterior. They weren't the, they weren't the matte finish of a sweet tart. But anyway, listeners, let us know what you've eaten on the haunted mansion. You know, there's, I've heard dirty stories about the haunted mansion of people doing gross sexual things i don't care for it i don't like it i don't even want you to smooch even though the when you tip backwards i that was maybe the i believe that's the most romantic moment in rides yeah is when you tip over as you're headed out the

window into the actual graveyard on haunted mansion but i don't think you should do that but i do think it's okay if you were to do a little treat a clean like not messy treat i think that's okay I don't want to be a bad Jason's glaring in me right He's upset But I'm just saying Be careful with those Forward backwards

Turns like don't be dropping stuff You have to be in the mansion You gotta be secure You have to be careful Yeah Now but what do you think about kissing When you're in the Doom buggy I think a little kiss is okay

How much kissing is okay though Like a little Soft makeout Like a quick makeout Oh a soft how many seconds Like five seconds Like no tongue You can have a little

You can have a little playful tongue With don't extract from the show Right You need like 20 seconds To call it a makeout don't you Five seems like I guess so Two kisses

You think that's more a peck A couple pecks Five seconds Five seconds is a couple pecks But no placing your hand on your partner's knee Because that could lead to a little bit more So maybe just a couple packs I think it's got to be fast and giggling

if you do a hand like maybe a playful squeeze right so you can't it has to be giggly you can't be like you can't like have that like no that's for the ghost to make those noises so you can touch your partner's knee if you go like if you give a little bit of like a gleeful but not too loud to disturb riders around you well i agree with that so okay five seconds of pecking a little playful knee grab this is jason's rules i don't know guy you've been on i'm sure the hona mention like 50 times more than we have. Yeah. So I don't know what your rules are.

If you would even want to share them, maybe that's private. Well, I, I, what I was going to ask is what you think about the hitchhagging ghost in the mirrors. Yes. And sometimes you see a little maybe rambunctious teen doing things that. Oh, right. Maybe aren't appropriate for a family audience. I'm just going to say it.

Yeah. Like making it look like the ghost is jerking off. Yeah. Do we support teens making it look like the ghost is jerking off? jerking off or they're jerking the ghost off. I mean, that's really... Now, now it's, you pretend like you're picking the ghost nose or the... That's a little more harmless fun. Yeah. A five-year-old sees that they're going to laugh, but... This is a great question, and I'm really working it out right now. Do I think it's okay to masturbate

the ghosts? It's really bright there. It's really bright in there. It's really bright in there. It's really bright in there. I do, here's what I think. I think of you got a big, group and you know you got friends in both sides of the car, then I think it might be a little harmless fun. Now, the security cameras will see you. Yeah. But okay, maybe a little harmless fun to pretend you're jerking off the skeleton coast. But you need to have that buffer. You don't want to chance it that there's a family next to you. You don't need them to see it because you can't see into the cars. You can't see into the mirrors. So, and I'll give the five, I'll give it three second rule you can only jerk the ghost off for like three seconds or less you can't do it five seconds

do it quick also that leaves like a question in the mind of the security cameras guards or whoever they are like oh did he do that or maybe he was just was he was he trying to open up a soda or something maybe was he trying to do maybe there was something i missed i didn't see that did i and that's where you want to be i think with some mischief mischievous fun now let me ask you something yeah go ahead you're you're riding with a bunch of friends you think the coast is clear. You jerk off the ghost for three seconds. Go ahead. But then at the end of your party,

your friend sees it. And he yells out, look at Mike jerking off the ghost. And then the rest of the ride, a bunch of families can hear. I don't get on board with that. Support any yelling. I can't get on board with any yelling. The only thing you could yell is Jason spilled his pudding on the ride.

That's the only thing I think you could yell, but nothing sexual. I mean, my point is it's a risk though. Sure. It is a risk. I think if the coast is clear. It is a risk, and you're about to come upon a cast member very quickly after that whole way. By the way, I'm not going to do it. I'm not either. I'm not going to pretend to jerk the ghost off.

That is not my style. No. I have never even pretended to pick its nose. Oh. I'm too respectful of the ghosts to do that. Maybe I've put my arm around the ghost. Of course. Now, did I do like hover hand?

Like I'm taking a photo with a female actress at Comic-Con. Maybe. I don't want to like hug the ghost tight. because I don't know the ghost out well but I will like kind of put my arm around to see like what the three dimensions look like on the ride so I've done that but I don't think I've done anything

where I like really mess with the ghost because I also like on some level you think it's real even though you know the illusion's happening I don't really want to tempt fate it's like pro wrestling you have to buy in yes all of this stuff you have to buy in on some level you can't be just looking going on the rides looking going I know how that's done I know how that's done

some of the snooty fans do but I don't like that I like that I don't even like to take a photo without flash because it's going to take a while for my eyes to readjust to the dark and I don't want to disturb anyone around me who could see like giant lit up iPhone screen. I never take photos on these rides. I mean I guess it's part of the luxury of like getting to go somewhat often

but also just like it doesn't the photo is never going to look very good because actually seeing what things look like in a photo, it's going to, it looks worse than your memory. And then also, yeah, if it's a flash, like, forget it. It's going to ruin everybody's moment and it'll look horrible. Yeah. You'll see how shitty everything actually looks. So don't do that.

But if they're teens and having fun and there's buffers, that's the only way I'm getting behind the jerking off the ghost. I don't know. We haven't addressed this on the Haunted Mansion series before I don't think. But have you seen it? Have you seen it? Oh, I've seen it. I have definitely seen it.

I'm assuming you've seen everything. How many times do you think you've been on Haunted Mansion in your life? Oh, my God. And again, this is his job, ladies and gentlemen. He's been doing it for a long time. And I've been going since I was a baby in my mom's belly. Is it 500 times? It has to be around there because that was one of my favorites as a kid growing up.

It's got to be more, right? It's got to be like, how many times have you been this year on the Haunted Mansion? Oh, I mean, five times a week, maybe? Five times a week. I don't know. Maybe not that much. Because part of my job is collecting wait time, so I wait in the line, I time it, I submit it, and then our data scientists and my job uses the data to predict wait times.

You work for a friend of the show, Lentesta. Yeah. Oh, yeah, go ahead. Sorry. I was just saying that context. It's been under construction on and off recently. Yeah, that too. And then down to flip it on a mansion holiday.

Yeah. Right. So, but yeah, five, I mean, yeah. Yeah, so you have, yeah, you have the big, like, other than, I'm trying to think of any job that is more, sounds like a child made it up than yours, that like, like an eight-year-old writes on like a paper when he's in school. But my job when I get older is be in Disneyland all day, ride all the rides five or more times a week. Like, that is what a child would say. So, you know, it's funny because before this, I worked at DirecTV, and when I was interviewing, I was like, oh, yeah, so all you guys do is sit around and watch TV thinking, like, they were going to be like, no, it's actually very technical.

Right. And they were like, oh, yeah. So anyway, and then before that, I worked in the game industry, and it was the joke was, you sit around and play video games all that. You really don't. It's mostly paperwork. Right. It's mostly paperwork at Torn Plans also. Sure.

I am behind the scenes quite a bit. When I was waiting for Scott to come out before this, I was answering customer service emails. so you were so but you do get to do like data input at disney oh yeah constantly so that is a plus yeah yeah because as we've said many times on the show going and like doing work at Disneyland is great yes even the worst work most annoying shit doing your taxes if you're at the grand Californian and doing your taxes it's so much better yeah everything is so much better when you get to as I said sniff the magic you don't even have to go into the parks just you get a little of the songs, the mood, the music, whatever.

It's better. Yesterday, I drove out to Disneyland, and my only task was I was going to go to downtown Disney and eat at Parkside Market because I'm trying to collect pictures so I can review it eventually. Well, and this is a whole thing we haven't talked about on the show yet. This is breaking news. Jason, do you know this? I'm telling you for the first time today.

No, I think I know it, but I can't pull it off my head. I prepare, prepare for this earth-shattering news. This is huge. This is big. Downtown Disney's newish coffee place. Yes. Sip and Sonder has closed. Already.

Already. Eight months or nine months. Right. This was a local L.A. started business. Yes. A black-owned business. I think there were seven locations. I could be wrong.

Yes. There's one in Santa Monica. I forget where specifically. I have not been to one. outside of the one in downtown Disney. A, like, higher-end, well-received, uh, cafe. Like, I guess a little more expensive than the Starbucks, which is right near there, of course.

Yes, and this was a pickup window facing the Star Wars store to the right. Yes, the former Rainforest Cafe. Yes. I have not been to downtown Disney since it's been like half-opened, uh, new stuff and that a bunch of construction walls still. but I did like oh there's a document Disney video of walking through it I'm like wait what is it like what is that like I uh yeah so I would because there is like this parkside market you would are on your phone I thought you were gonna talk about the Gordon Ramsey thing going

above that's news but this is this is a difference this is like uh oh what happened yeah it is called parkside market coffee and tea i believe right so the rest of it's just like i'm absorbed yeah by d and so it's a disney run i assume i assume but i i think that whole building is third party so oh it is okay so a different company absorbed that the sip and sonder area of it and and look does everything i've eaten there taste like airport food yeah um sure is it really expensive. Did I pay $27 for a chicken sandwich fries and a cookie? I did. Sure. I did. Okay. Maybe, yeah, maybe too expensive. Did it communicate from a solely video that that was kind of the vibe? Yes, it did. I like that little area. I like the, I like going upstairs. I like all that. So. And the rolling hills

outside with the grass, fake grass is fun. It's interesting because I assume what happened. It's probably similar to what happened at CityWalk with Popcornopolis. Popcornopolis up here at CityWalk Hollywood closed a couple months ago. Yeah. And there was like, oh my God, what's going to roll in there? And what replaced Popcornopolis was Universal, I assume, just kept all the infrastructure, opened up a new popcorn store called CityWalk Pop, I believe. And it's almost exactly the same. Well, but no, it's like a third of the flavor. Yes, you're right.

There's not as many flavors. Butter, caramel and cheese. It's not, you're right. They opened a worse version of Popcornopolis that they own, and they're running. It's theme park popcorn in Citiwock. Yes. By the way, speaking of popcorn in Universal, did you see, like, all the Halloween popcorn buckets are like 70% off now, the mega one and the art one? Yes, I did send you that, right?

There's an art the clown. I think about three people sent me. I think I'm going to go up to Citywalk after this to that 70% off store. So if you guys want some art popcorn buckets, I'll pick some up. Jason's the big art fan over here. They kind of went all in on the Terrifier 3, which is set at Christmas. Because I was looking for more kind of generic art merchandise when we did Hard Nights. I was really looking for his tiny hat.

And I didn't find any, like, Clown Cafe merch and a tiny hat. I think that's Orlando, I think, went a little more all out with the merch. So you, that's a great question, because you were looking for Art the Clown's tiny hat because you wanted to wear it. Yeah. But did you actually see it? No, I was working under the assumption of like, well, if you need one art thing to sell as a souvenir, or his tiny hat would be a funny. So you imagine. It's okay.

Yeah. So you don't have more confirmation on that existing. Do you have confirmation on the separate cupcake line for the Five Nights at Freddy's Cupcake that's sold on the lower lot a universal during Horace? Just a half-remembered live stream. Guy, have you done Horror Nights? I have not. I've done Universal Horror Unleashed. Oh, you have, right? We talked a little bit about that two weeks ago. Yeah. I think you had a more negative review than Landon, if I recall correctly. We have not done it yet. Landon seemed a little mixed on it overall, but I think you were a little more negative. There were some operational things, including one of the mazes closing over an hour early with no notice. That's a bummer, yeah. I wouldn't like that. That's true. Well, still, we're going to get there. I'm going to get there sometime.

I want to say, still, Backstreet Boys keep adding dates. So I think maybe there's a good chance we'll get to a Backstreet Boys show. Is that the residency you're like eyeing the most? Because you've talked about it. Well, no doubt is playing in the spring, which would be fun. I've never seen No Doubt live. At this sphere. Yep.

No doubt's doing it. It's like Zach Bryan doing. Not that I know anything about Zach Brian. I don't Sphere is the show You know I don't even I would see the Eagles

At Sveer What they're playing again I like the Eagles fine But yeah I Backstreet Boys seems Most fun Backstub boys also seems like You see the most

Social media of like People going and they dress up And it seems like a to do That seems like one of the biggest One since they opened it So I think that Millennium album Had a lot of visual elements It sure did

The music video And the outfits And so I think that was easy to expand out to sphere size. We're finally expanding the world of Backstreet Boys' Millennium. That's, yes, very exciting. Larger than life, I would, I think it would be a ball. I think you'd have a ball doing that.

Guy, have you done this sphere yet? I have done the sphere. I did an electronic artist named Enema. Oh my God, I was talking about Enema months ago. I sent you videos from when I went. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, like a big robot smashes the screen at one point. I talked about this a couple months ago.

Yeah, there was very elaborate electronic. yeah music show and he had he had Cuka arms that played like violin on the stage

with him yeah it was very cool and so the seats vibrate with with the music right oh like a D box yeah with like the baseline

oh and so for electronic music there's a lot of bass so you're sitting there the entire time and it's just like it was very cool if I feel like that would like jostle any gas

that you have in your lower intestine that was also we went at almost the last minute because they just had tickets on the resale market for $25. I would love to do a $25 sphere, whatever it is.

Yeah, it was the cheapest way to get to the sphere by far. Because Wizard of Oz is like $200. Wizard of Oz is insane. And apparently it's successful. It seems, unless they're lying, it seems like people love it. People can't get enough of the weird wizard.

I hear it successful, but I get a lot of YouTube recommendations of like where the JPEG preview is just like Vegas is dying. Yeah. Like there's been so many of those. Yeah. I think the economy, Vegas economy is a little bit down. It sure seems less busy when I go there.

Yeah. Not that I hang around the strip a lot when I'm there, but you can, and I did search, my parents just went to Paul McCartney in Vegas and we, that day was expensive everywhere, was the concert day. He did not sell out in Vegas. My girlfriend went also. Yes, it was, the tickets were surprisingly affordable. You could have gone for $22.

Yeah. And it's a Legion Stadium. It's a big place. But, yeah, they sat not so far back for 100 something. Like nothing too nuts. But like you can go to Park MGM in the middle of the week for like 30 bucks a night. Yeah. There's probably fees there, but still, like, that's not bad.

Yeah. And so I want to go to Park MGM in the middle of the week. They offered the one year and we were there for Jane's birthday. So I didn't want to, like, mess around, too. I wanted to make sure she had a nice trip, a nice birthday. But I did the $20 trick, which they did not. They did not, they did not even look at it. But I asked, were there any upgrades?

And it was like 2021. So there were plenty of empty rooms. And the one suite they offered us was like, the only thing, it's big, it's really nice. The bed is a Murphy bed. And she kind of, like, she vetoed that immediately because I was like, oh, boy, Murphy bed. And she's like, absolutely not. And I find Disney, the modern Murphy beds are pretty manageable. Like, they're nice.

I was just a couple weeks ago, I stayed at the Grand Californian in one of the new refurbished DVC studios. Okay. They have a Murphy bed now instead of a pull-out couch. And it was very nice. So the Murphy bed was good. Yeah. We haven't done enough Murphy bed talk on podcast. the ride in general because like my I'm always thinking of like an old like I Love Lucy episode where

like a Murphy bed comes out of the wall and it's rickety and then like while you're sleeping it folds back into the wall and hurts you badly it's like a cartoon I mean we've seen Looney Tunes cartoons where this has happened I think Ricky yells at it in Spanish like it's right but I so I do have a bad opinion of Murphy beds but you're you're both telling me I'm this is something I'm learning for the first time that Murphy beds have improved over the years Murphy bed technology has come a long way since it's come a long way and the um like uh when i stayed at pop century they have the ones that are a murphy bed when you fold it up like a table yeah comes out that's like at grand california it's a couch a couch just all of a sudden pops up wow yeah i know the cruises too or

oh yeah yeah right so you get out the ghosts have followed you home you get out on the walkway I will say as a kid going out on the walkway, I was like, well, the ghost is gone. Yeah. If there was some sort of effect where the ghost actually kind of followed with you, that would have sold that to me more. Like, oh my God, it's following this. But like seeing that part, I always like,

I felt a little bit like, yeah, I could do so. There could be something else after that. Yeah. I will say, though, this area is very cool. It is very cool. If you actually look around, there's like crumbling, crips and a cool torch and... Yeah, the arm torch

that was like a roly crump design, kind of a nod to a French filmmaker, I believe, who did an adaptation of beauty and the beast. Oh, interesting. Huh, and was that an initial, like, one of the museum of the weird things that just, like, made its way into the mansion?

Yeah. Because there's all these different little weird things that, like, ended up in places, but they never... I think, like, the more, like, not ominous. Just weird. Melty stuff. The melting candy man. He's artist.

The candle man, I think is what you're talking about? You said candy man. You're the candy man, my friend. He got candy on the brain. We got, like, we got assorted bags of Halloween candy at home. And we're like, and we'll put out a bowl of candy for the neighbors, as we always do. And it's like, I don't know if this is going to last. We might need another trip.

What kind of candy did you crack in? Well, like, you know, fun size, Reese. or Kit Katz Pretty standard Yeah, pretty standard stuff We were always like A Reese's Kit Kat family When giving out candy

That's what would be around the house You gotta buy the candy like two hours Before trick-or-treating starts On the 31st To make sure you don't break into it early Oh yeah I mean we're close to a CVS They can always run in there

Always run out and get it Yes, don't get me wrong I'm just sharing like I always wish they followed me longer that's the only gripe I would have. But yes, this is a pretty cool place. I always love moving walkways as a kid. I still do.

I did too. So there is something, I don't know what that is about, like, I, I, escalators are fun, but moving walkways. I don't know why. Oh, at airports, I would always, like, steer my family immediately onto the moving. They're so futuristic. Yeah, maybe that's what it is. And then city walk in Orlando.

Yeah. A lot of moving walkways there as you're entering. Sure, yeah. from the parking garage or wherever. Little Leota. I saw that name a lot. Yeah, for the tiny version of Leota that greet you as her says goodbye. The Muppet Babies.

The Jason Sorrel book, I feel like, used the phrase Little Leota. And I don't know if that's an unofficial one or what. It sounds too cute. It sounds too Muppet Babies for me. It's a little cute. Yeah, I know she doesn't have a name beyond that. Yeah, yeah.

But by the way, one more thing about the moving walkways is how they still, this nice little detail, how they paint them to look like a carpet. Oh, all right, right. There's the designs from the carpet on the actual walkway. And that's one of those things where that's that Disney difference. Right. Yeah. And those things do get faded and it fades away, but then they'll do the refurbion and they'll paint that sucker right back up and it looks as good as new. Yeah.

There's a new. Has anyone watches, there's like a 25 minute one. Mansion video on the Imagineerring YouTube account. Recent video. Very recent. Yes, I did watch it. And there's not enough time spent on the Disneyland Mansion. They go to all the other ones fast.

They go to all the other ones fast. But the most fascinating thing was the Imagineer, the early Imagineer who designed the wallpaper. Canya Norris. Yes. And she's the most dignified, like, fancy lady. And I'm like, it's so funny. comparing this to like

the millennial imagineers talking and she's just like well working working with Walt was very inspiring and he inspired everyone around and she just is so dignified and everyone else is just using

the Disney buzzwords like when we want people to feel emotions like all the buzzy Disney the Disney terms and then there's just one like dignified older woman

just so composed it's very funny she's been back in the sort of I don't know what you'd call it like Disney family for a few years I saw her at midsummer scream like five years ago and I feel like the word was that she hadn't really done much as far as interviews for Disney in a long time

and she was lady and I think I've said it on the show before at the very end of the panel she said something like in a very stern like proper way like Disneyland is not for children it is for people like you that appreciate details that's who it's really for that's what we did

when we were putting it together like she gave this like very strict stern speech which really validated a bunch of old nerds in that room of like yeah you're right like yeah hooting and hollering

of like this lady's right kids don't belong at Disneyland I think that's a little bit too far but still I think she probably back in the like rotation of people speaking

for Disney because she's one of the last of the original generations that worked directly with Walt Disney. Yeah, she was running out of... They are running out. They are running out. And so she seemed very cool. She had a very interesting vibe.

But she did seem like her blouse, her shirt sleeves had the wallpaper on it. So she thought, she's got it. She was wearing that so that suggests she may be more fun than what, we're saying uh no i think she's fun but i she was she's just very thoughtful i thought it was very cool she's very interesting and it gave a break between the manic editing style these recent imaginering videos they really are all over the place they're not as bad as that one show on uh we

know what you're talking about that was very just like okay slow down yeah yeah but yeah she's yeah tanya norris she might be 90 years old i mean she would have to be up there if she was because I think when she was very young she was on the plane with like Walt and Lillian going to New Orleans to the head up yes going to New Orleans to like research things and see when they were putting New Orleans

square together so she was like finding wallpaper I think she at that panel said she was upset because the wallpaper is not quite the same as it was back then yeah so there's been some changes that she wasn't happy with but I think five years ago she had been in Disneyland she hadn't been in Disneyland for a long time

so she went like she had just been back and maybe back in the family recently. But she made a great point of, like, I designed that wallpaper. There's not an imaginary and dry building in such a collective effort, but she's like, I am one of the people who can go, that's me. That's impressive because it's arguably one of the most famous things in all of Disney theme park history. Yeah.

I just wish that Disney would do a few things for the sickos. Like all the stuff they put together is for a job. general audience and I get why you need a lot of that but I want like get back length like interviews and just archival footage like in the way that the Beatles get back was like we're going to listen to Paul play the intro to the song get back while he's developing it 15 20 times over and over and over if there's a piece of footage you're seeing it I want that with all the archival footage oh yeah I want that with every interview with an old Imagineer I want some like 25 hour sprawling monotonous documentary

and you know they could do something like that but it's just like they don't produce content like that for us I have the so with the imagine when the imaginering story came out they published a book like companion

and James Baum gave it to me for Christmas one year and I thought it was going to be a coffee table book it is like 1,000 page hardcover. Really good yeah I have yes so like stuff like that I want in video form.

Yeah. But they don't, yeah, they're not going to do that, I guess. Imagine getting to like the 70s Disney and there's six hours on like, car walker,

some late golden eggs, you know? Yeah. That's what I want. Oh, yeah. That's, yeah.

And like just like every Imagineer that's still alive, like sitting them down for a week. Yeah. And just getting like eight hour days, eight hour blocks. And I know Disney will edit out like anything interesting, but still there would be a lot of content there. There's still stuff like when we had,

when we interviewed Tony, Bexter and I was just like, what happened to Figment? How did this happen? And he goes, you tell me. And I'm like, but wait, what does that mean? You mentioned Disney editing out things. One of the, my all-time holy grails of Disney things is an unedited Michael Eisener work in progress. Because that book got chopped up so bad by lawyers. There's like a few paragraphs about Jeffrey Katzenberg when it used to be like a whole chapter. I want to see the original unedited Michael Eisner

because he hated him and you know he was like just he's still got he look he still got the bite the Eisner bite he laid it did you hear the episode do you hear my question when I asked Michael Eisner I mean people are still talking about it so yeah it's a good question but you know he gave me

the business which I appreciated yeah I'm sure I'm sure he would I want all of it I want to hear the truth I want people to tell us the truth like when Jason, I mean, Tony Baxter said stuff on interviews that he's forgotten. Like when Jason said something about somebody throwing a chair at him and he said, how do you know that? And Jason goes, I heard it on a podcast.

Yeah, I heard it from you. Yeah. But he should probably shouldn't have been saying that. Yeah. But yeah, anyway, I just, I want to get into the, like, needy, gritty of all of it. Oh, yeah. Little Leota. I like Little Yoda.

It's kind of sinister. It freaks me out as a kid. Oh, my mom used to, when I was a little kid, used to do the voice and just scare the hell out of me. Yeah. At night. Yeah. Yeah. It is great.

And it really, I'm trying to think if there's anything else in parks that leaves you with a feeling like little Yoda does. Don't forget your death certificate. Like, that's perfect. That's great. But just the vibe of it and the one last little thing to make you remember it. Just a sinister. Hurry back. Hurry back.

I'm trying to think arguably the best little ending of a ride. And you're still kind of trapped there. It is a ramp you can walk up, but you're usually surrounded by people, so you can't run up the ramp and get away. You have to stand there and listen to Little Yoda. And absorb it, right. And there is, when you step off,

like as you're walking out at the mansion, I feel like I always walk right by it, but like I watch, a video and there's a final laugh. The last laugh, yeah. Yeah, the last laugh. Which was disconnected for 20 years, 10 or 20 years, and then they, on a refurbishment in the, I think it was the early

2000s, they plugged it back in, the last laugh was working again. You know what I'm talking about, right? Yes, but I'm now, I'm trying to think, is it have anything to do with Walt's last laugh, which is a phrase we've recently heard? About Country Bear Javier, no, completely different. Okay, but they name it the last laugh because

of this Disney lore that The last laugh vault ever gave in the offices, is that what it is? Yeah. Was seeing a country bear, like, mock up or something? Yeah. I don't think they're, maybe they're connected. You never know. Yeah, maybe.

This is why we got to get the 80-year-olds. I know. On video for seven hours. Right, or more. Wow. That's, I mean, I'm glad they brought it back. This is where I will jump in and discuss accessibility on this attraction. Right.

Because I'd never done this before. When I went in June. The mansion had reopened after the long refurbishment. And there's a lot of people reviewing the accessibility on the redo. Because you can now just go through the whole line. The queue's been expanded, the outdoor extended queue. So it's very easy to maneuver with wheelchair or an ECV. And then you go down the normal elevator, go by the portraits that are changing.

and then you don't do the full wraparound line. There's a little gate and there's cast member and they will wait for a good moment and then stop the doom buggies. Right, because sometimes, yeah, you'll be in there on the right and they'll stop and that's usually what it's for. Yeah, and apparently there is a larger accessibility doom buggy

because there are some people uh i mean my one like swings a bit but some people need a little more room to get in than a standard doom buggy like they need a little more room to maneuver um but we just they stopped it we got in did the mansion you don't get off by little leota oh really stay in the doom buggy and you ride up into essentially blackness into a dark roof. Oh, really? Looking back, I'm like, were there cobwebs or little wist? But you go up into this dark room and then you go down into the loading. Go down that little stairway that's in the loading on the far right.

Yeah, okay. Yeah, you come back into the loading and get back out at the gate. I picture there being like blades back there that kill anyone that stays in the ride. So I guess there's not. I guess you just can smoothly go. You just smoothly go because I was like, oh, where the fuck is this go? That's cool. So then they pause the ride again and you get out at the gate. But then they're like the elevator exit is over there. And there's a long hallway, which now I think they have themed more because you get the lightning effects in there. And you go by like the

bells the bells to summon the servants. Right. Like we saw in Florida. Yes, we got to go in the little special room in Florida. So they have that now in that hallway. And then you get in a regular ass elevator. Oh, not themed? It seems.

It seems. But when the elevator doors open, there is a spooky painting in there. And when the elevator store closed and start moving, you hear hurry back. Oh, wow, really? back so you do get a little of it so you're in a regular elevator but you hear the little leota

you hear little leota and the death certificate well that's good and then you come out to a regular ass door which i think is the big point of criticism because it's just a door handle and for people navigating it without assistance it's a bit hard to reach one of those it's like so it should be like oh a push bar or a button would be great for that door but it was crazy to like so like oh my god there's other parts of the mansion yeah no i mean that was when we did that in florida that was very exciting i mean we were lucky we've yeah go ahead and that door lets you out by the train station so you come out on the other side of the house interesting and i think previously the way the accessibility line worked was you went up the elevator the stretching room yes

you had to go back through the ground and they go up in the stretching room so i think they got a bit of criticism for that option. Yeah, this sounds much better in almost every way. So, okay, so you would go in the empty stretching room elevator and go back up? Yeah. Yeah. That kind of sounds cool, though, doesn't it? Yes.

I think you're just beating against the current. I think one of the things they got rid of was there was kind of like a separate line through the portrait gallery. Yeah. And that would be easier to navigate. Interesting. Wow, so you've gotten to see different parts. That's cool.

Yeah, so I like the accessibility. I haven't done it for on a mansion holiday yet. Right. If there's a little jack at the end, like a jack voice at the end. Well, it's a little Sally, isn't it? Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. Little Sally.

I would assume they replicate that in the elevator, but I can't say, let's hope. Let's hope. Can I ask a question about Lil Yoda? Yeah. Is she supposed to be in the distance or is she supposed to be tiny? I've always wondered this as well. Unclear to me. And by the way, little Leota,

Harriet Tooms, and her actual voice. It's the original Madame Leota voice, I'm saying, yeah. But Madam Leota, the voice isn't hers, isn't Harriet Toombs. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I know this. Yeah, but then Little Leota, that is her voice.

And then her daughter, Kim, is a face of what again? Isn't she have her face somewhere? Am I wrong? the Honda Mansion Holiday Okay that's what it is Lyota and Honda Mansion Holiday Got it got it okay So okay So that's the original

Imagineer It was little Leota Right I always think of her as in the distance Not as a tiny version of the ghost I thought she was tiny In the way that like ghosts Can appear and disappear

Like I was giving them credit For like oh they hitchhagen ghosts You don't see them following you home Because they're ghosts They can disappear and reappear at will Like I thought this was a ghost Changing their size I guess ghosts can change their size

I don't like it I don't like the idea of that But I guess that's something they do do It's kind of it could be in the distance So guy what do you think So It doesn't look like there's any Forced perspective

Right there's nothing that suggests that she's in the distance Right there would be like she would be on like standing on something right and correct me if I'm wrong in Florida she's in you're on the ride still when you see her and she's up above you yeah right right right but she's in a crypt a room with a bunch of holes for the caskets or whatever right and again I don't think there's any force perspective there either oh a mazilea she must just be tiny she must have shrunk herself to fit yeah and say a scary thing to you as you leave a spooky thing to you as you leave I guess I don't I like the idea though that she's in the distance

like on like the hillside or something which wouldn't make sense indoors but I like the idea that she's far away but I guess she's tiny I think it is disorienting whether she's far away or tiny it definitely succeeds in a sense of uneasiness that's true yes I mean she almost seems like a little doll version yeah that's some maybe that's kind of how I read it sometimes where it's like a little doll of her

is saying hurry back. But, yeah, I don't like, I'm uncomfortable by the idea that ghosts can change size because then they could be giant. You could be opening up a bag of chips and there could be a little ghost in there. Right, and then they could grow.

Yeah. The ghost could grow and scare you. Yeah. I don't like that. I don't like that play with us in Beetlejuice or in the Casper, the live action Casper. Does Casper get big in Casper?

Don't they get small at one point? Are they? Yeah, maybe. Shop and do a million pieces. Am I thinking of a stay puff? Well, there's little stay puffs now. I haven't seen either of these new Ghostbusters. I watched 10 minutes of the new one.

That scene with the little stay puffs. Yeah, is it cute? I mean, the movie basically slams on its brakes and then they just go to Walmart for 40 minutes. Well, now Jason has to watch this. Retail shopping in a Ghostbusters film? Yeah. And then, yeah, they just cause havoc with,

what's his name? Paul Rudd? Paul Rudd, yeah. Okay. I mean, I like little stay puffs. And the movie just resumes. Okay. No, you've really sold us on it.

Yeah. I like that. But yeah, you're probably, I'm sure there's ghost media where they grow big. I just don't like, I don't know. I don't like the idea of it. I wish they were just their size

that they were when they were alive. Yeah. But like, yeah, that would indicate that Casper could like get his, make his arms like jacked or something. Yeah. Because like then they could just change their form. I mean,

I guess they have to be able to change their form. if they're ghosts. So what I'm saying is absurd here. So, but she's made herself tiny to haunt you more effectively because if she was a full-sized ghost, it would actually be a little bit less alarming. Yeah. I think if she was just full-size there, it'd be scary, but it wouldn't be quite as haunting. And I guess it makes sense, too, because this was in the 60s and they maybe don't want

you that close to a ghost animatronic. Yeah, you would have. Because you'd be like, that looks like crap, you know. Or some teens would do something lewd with it. We don't want that. These disgusting teens So yeah Anyway she's great

I love that I just wish there was some clarity On exactly what I'm looking at Yeah So maybe maybe a narrator Maybe the ghost host Comes back on And he explains what's going on

She's shrunken down Because she has that ability Did you know ghosts can change their size And then he goes on and on A little bit more And explains the logic behind it And you're like the ramp's almost over Can you wrap this up ghost host please

Yeah It would be it's actually a lot of what we're saying we don't like at the start of the episode of explaining things too much. But I want it here. I'm confused. I'm stopping the ramp

because I have more to talk to you about. I'm sorry if you have dining reservations. Let me explain to you how heaven works. Yeah, so if they could do that, that would be nice. But it's a great exit for a ride. I mean, like, pirates has its charm because now you're back on land. I like the idea that, oh, that was a dream.

But it is a little bit once you get up there And you're just like, yeah, I'm kind of stuck in the boat And there's not much to look at other than people I've been slammed by the other boats five or six times I'm getting slammed by boats Get out, they're running too much Sometimes the slamming on pirates is more violent than the Matterhorn ride That's a good point, depending, yeah, depending

That's for sure But yes, the haunted mansion is a really nice ease out into the real world Yeah So that's, yes I wanted to just say one line that I really liked, again, from Fox Nalti. Oh, please. She said that the Pirates of the Caribbean is a mortality play where the wicked cannot outrun their fate. Okay.

Haunted Mansion is a mortality play where we face down death and death is make silly faces at us. I think that's so true. And the fact that they're both in the same land in Disneyland with such contrasts is. It is, it kind of makes it the best land ever in all of Disney. Yeah, I mean, it's also like why I end up just like comparing the two so much. It's just they feel of a piece. They feel of like so obviously they're a couple of years apart, but like they definitely feel all part of the same world in a way. But not in the like strict cohesive we need lore and backstory way that like is modern storytelling at large in a lot of ways.

It has to be like, oh, we've explained that this pirate is actually this ghost. Yeah. We actually don't need that for this. So stop doing things like that in Disneyland, at the very least in Disneyland. Agree. But that's an interesting way to look at it. It's so funny, too, because, like, that is such a perfect, like, beautiful way to describe these rides. And I always wonder, did anyone putting the ride together at the time think of it that way?

The people that put these rights together were smart and we're making good choices. and but it is funny because I wonder if sometimes like you see like with comic books like there's a great clip of Jason and I's favorite writer Grant Morrison talking about the X-Men and talking about what X-Men means and Stanley is right next to Grant and Grant goes on this long explanation of what X-Men is and what it represents and Stan is sitting there dumbfounded he doesn't know what to make of this this man has thought like so much more about this than he ever Stan ever did and he goes well I don't know what to do with all that that's what you got yourself into this mess and it's like there is something beautiful about just talented people putting stuff together and then other people like kind of putting the beauty putting it into words that are beautiful like I've seen that a lot and that's something I I enjoy that aspect of creativity and whatever and stuff we like yeah and you see the old interviews and it's like why did you put a hat with one land on with One foot on the land and one in the boat, and he's rocking. It was like, it was funny. It's funny. Right, exactly. And that's the explanation for almost everything in all those old rides.

Right. It's funny. It's a good gag. But, yeah, you can take great meaning from these things if you want. I think over time, too, the way people perceive stuff, does stuff takes on its own importance. And then that's like, it's, you know, a volleyball being hit back and forth because then the next generation of, writers or imaginers with their meaning

they took from it they work it in right they go back to the original because that clip I mean that you're discussing about Stan Lee and Grant Morrison Stan probably hadn't written the X-Men in 40-50 years right but didn't think very much past

we need new guys with powers what do we call X is a fun letter like let's call them the X-Men and it's like well we've done like gamma rays and you go mutants he probably like saw some like book or something you'd even read a book you just saw that there were mutants in a book and he went call them mutants well it even goes back to the names of these rides what is it Pirates of the Caribbean what is this thing it's a haunted mansion

there's no further thought yes exactly yes that is a really good way to put it and I think it goes back to what we're talking about with the names where it's like it is a little bit better when you can sort of put your own feelings into it and your own story into it yeah and it It's not like obviously IP rides have to be the story and you have to see the characters. But the beauty of these rides is that they're not generic, but they're open to such interpretation that if you want to go in and you want to see like a very meaningful lesson about life, you can. Like you don't necessarily, like you're going to get more out of these rides than Frozen. Maybe you love Frozen and it's amazing to go on the ride or Frozen. But everyone now has assembled a different meaning for Haunted Man.

for pirates over these decades of going on them so the more you try to like put actual specific narratives or characters it takes something away from them so that is what's fun about these and what we'll never get again in Disney parks is a ride with a generic name that doesn't even obviously haunted as ghosts but you don't know what the vibe is you don't it doesn't suggest something like that uh and that is that is sort of not sort of it is sad because you're like there is something awesome about that and no one will just do like what's a good like a hole there's a whole there's a whole lot of these pirates there's like we've done mobs boys or like i mean that's very loaded nowadays cowboy adventure or something right yeah yeah just something that sounds generic

and then like you go on there's a bunch of cool shit happening and then like if you're looking for meaning it's everywhere if you're looking to just see like a gag where a guy gets his hat shot off it's there too so that's what's like you know we're we're being very philosophical now. I don't know if that it's necessarily any of the episode because I have some things to gripe about, but it is a nice ending if we were to end here. I want to know what these gripes are.

Well, the gift shop that they built in the last couple years outside the Haunted Mansion, or last year, I should say. I forgot to get the actual name, but the building is literally a building you can go on a website and buy. It's like a prefabbed building. It's like when Sears robot catalogs used to

have like here's buy a house and assemble it yourself we are we should say so anyway we're outside of the mansion i guess we're done with the haunted mansion itself but they built this gift shop outside in between tiana and haunted mansion yes now there's a gift shop in florida that i like a lot memento mori yeah memento mori i think it's very well done yeah yeah um but they it's what is it called leotas something yeah ifs or something and because it it's this pre-fabricated building, it, uh, it doesn't match the scale of really anything around. It stinks. It's, it's very tall. I wanted to, because I saw a lot of negativity when it was being built of like, this isn't going to work. And I want, I'm trying to be Mr. like reasonable. Hey,

let's see how it is. All of these people are being annoying, blah, blah, blah. It's built, it's open. I don't like it. Yeah. I think it stinks. It ruins the like perspective of mansion and Tiana's Bayou Adventure. Very much so. It's a, it's a, it's a, It's a carriage house. Sure. And it's just a bunch of trinkets that it looks like you can buy off Amazon kind of all over the place, but then a couple of haunted mansion. Well, they ran into some trouble because some of the art in there was like prefab AI.

Yeah. Just junk. And it's like you have, you might be the company, the biggest, the company in the world that employs the most artists. Yeah. Surely they could have grinded something out because the old guys grinded stuff. out over a weekend. Yeah, and

Kim Irvine did an interview with Todd, Todd Martins, I think. Yeah, yeah. Where she said, like, well, we, we were in a rush and we had to get it open

and, you know, we needed art up in there and we got the EA art and then we put the real art. It's like, what? I mean, okay. I mean, they replaced it. Did they really expect to replace it?

I don't know. Who knows? Exactly. But I also right like oh this wasn't even like an imaginering job yeah it was opening this because it's like a pre-fabbed right so it's like that's i don't know so i've been around this shop now a couple times handful of times and i think it's got to go yeah i think they got to get rid of it nothing about it matches the tone of haunted mansion right it doesn't look like the building it doesn't look like the same era and again the scale of it

and i know they needed like a dedicated gift shop for haunted mansion crap that is the thing as a kid i was like, why is there just a cart? Why doesn't the haunted mansion have a gift shop? Right. So I was kind of like, oh, that'll be cool. There'll be a little thing here, but tear it out. Yeah. I want it gone.

Do you feel strongly about this? I, when I was there earlier in the summer, I just kind of, like, I didn't even allocate. I mean, we did have a reservation to get to, but I did not allocate limited time and energy to go through it. We have to go over here and I have to get mad. I kind of eyeballed it. I was like, I don't know if this is worth it. Like, I could see some of the merch.

And with the design of Tiana, as I've said this before, I think that not having the tree stump on the top also takes away the scale or the fake scale for its perspective. So then this, in addition to that, does make Tiana seem so much smaller to me than how Splash Mountain looked. So I don't know. I don't think it's coming out. I think it's here to stay for a while. Yeah. But it does bum me out.

I don't like it. Yeah. I wish I could be more agnostic about it. But this is your feeling, too, but you're in Disneyland all the time. Oh, absolutely. Okay. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Yeah.

Yeah. It really does. I really, I wanted to, and I didn't want to be reactionary because I kind of felt that way the first time, but multiple trips now I go, this sucks. Yeah. I don't like this. Do I, I wonder if they would do it now. It almost feels like a weird era of decision making, which I like to tell.

I like talk about this often where I'm like, I don't think they would get rid of Jaws in Universal Florida now, but there was a couple of years there where they were like doing like the Fest and Furious ride where... Yeah, I always say that about the People Mover in Disneyland, I think if it would have held on for another five years... Right, it would be then, we can't touch it. Yes, that's a good, a very good example of what I'm talking about.

So I almost feel like if they were about to do it now, it wouldn't have looked like this, or they just wouldn't have done it now. I think it took a little while. Oh, it took forever because I wanted to talk. to beef back up staffing and Imagineering staffing and projects and stuff. Yeah, I think they're still a little bit understaffed over there. But yes, like Iger came back and they like brought some old names back.

And I wonder if this would have been an imaginary project now to try to figure out something that looked better. I don't know how to do it. I'm not an engineer. I'm not a magic maker. I make magic on a podcast, of course, every week, two times a week, in fact. But no, I can't build a building. that looks like it's in scale with these two rides. Well, I love the, like, we were in a rush.

We had to get it open. It's like, what, brunt? What did, like, your Disneyland? There is no, you are saying rush by, like, fiscal cord? Like, we don't care. Guests don't care about that. Well, and also it took forever, because remember last year on the Haunted Mansion episode,

I said I was expecting to be able to review the queue, which I don't know, we'll talk about that later, the queue and the gift shop on, last year's episode, but they hadn't even broken ground on it, or they just started, and they had announced it a year prior. So they weren't, what rush were they in? There was no rush. This is one of those things, too, where we can only talk about this amongst theme park

nerds, because if I try to explain this to my neighbor or something, it's like, I'm mad about a theme park gift shop. Oh my gosh, yeah. Or you say like the hatbox goes placement in Florida's Hunter Mansion, which drives me insane too. And I feel like those were the same era decisions as this. Yeah. So, and then, like, I've heard beacon the barrel, which I know it's not a gift shop, it's a bar. That seems like very well received.

Yeah, it looks awesome. Perfectly imaginered. Everyone who I've spoken to has gone loves it. So I don't know. It's a bummer. Now we've ended the haunted mansion on a negative note. We could have left everybody feeling good. I think we were all surprised.

We finished that. Sure. I mean, we expected to be done, I think, last year. But I don't know how to get us out of this hole is what I'm saying. Guy, do you have any other facts? Do you have any other information? You have something. You always show up so prepared, and we appreciate it so much.

So you're going to have to save the podcast to write a haunted mansion series. Well, look, I have a couple things. Oh, okay, go ahead. One of the things was, as we were talking, Scott said he wants to FaceTime Mike. Just me? Well, on the air. Oh, okay. But just first I wanted to say the other, a couple episodes ago, you were talking about fun summer overlays for rides.

Yes, yes. I think the haunted mansion graveyard scene would make a great summer overlay. It is a great idea. They could be at the beach. That is a great idea. All the ghosts could be wearing sunglasses. I would love to see them in floaties in old-time amazing. Exactly.

They could do the copper tone ad where the skeleton ghost dog is pulling on the bathing scene. That's great. It would have been perfect. What music do you envision? Oh, wow. I didn't even think about that. I guess. Would it be like a jaunty, like it sounds like the haunted mansion music.

It sounds like Grim Grin' Ghosts, but it's like surfing USA or something. Yeah, like a surf rock. Surfrot Grimgearing and Ghost Or surf rock Grim Grin and Ghost Yeah go the other way with it It is so funny when we hit upon these ideas Where it's like Yeah put them in like swim caps

And goggles But it's like God I hate our gift shop What you're saying Some of our opinions are all over the place So we're gonna face time Scott That's gonna be the big finish here Yeah I'm gonna he's gonna face time you Oh he's gonna face time me okay sure

I'm gonna inform him right now Do I have to get him on mic, I guess. Well, Guy can put his phone up to the mic. Well, he's going to FaceTime me, though. That's what he said. He's specifically requesting to FaceTime Mike. I don't know why. Oh, okay.

I mean, he probably just wants us to know where he's, I don't think he's only going to talk to me. Do you think he's at Slice House in City Walk? I know it's been a source of controversy. No, because we went up there with Scallens and he didn't even eat at Slice House. I know. He ate at home. I missed out, and then there was K-pop, and I'm like, I just didn't have the energy for it. Yeah, there was a cape house.

pop group up there. Yeah. Yeah. So he's going to face-time us now. Okay, I'm getting a call right now. We're being face-timed. In the K-Fabe, we haven't been playing. Oh, Scott is in a park somewhere or by a tree. Hold on. Hi, hi. I'm in nature here. I'm doing a little bit of further self-reflection. What's going on, guys? You know, I apologize for the way that played out. It must have been very surprising. I didn't telegraph that whatsoever. It's very subtle. So, uh, it was a little bit surprising. Uh,

uh, guy, I, I've said this to guy off, Mike. Uh, when guy walked in, uh, I, I, I sighed with relief. What do you mean? As opposed to who? Well, the people that we know or the minotars that we know. Yeah, there was just not a, there was not a minotar. I, not that, look, not that we couldn't have done a fun show with a minotaur or any other

characters. I'm just saying, I go, okay. I mean, I mean, I mean, who are you worried? about BuzzBuzz Skittles. I mean, I wasn't worried, but I decided, okay, I know what to do. I know how this is going to go. We're going to have a lovely chat. That's what I'm saying. Well, yes, absolutely. And just, and if guy can hear me, Guy, I want to thank you for being the different guy that I've never been able to be for all these eight years. And I hope that the difference was palpable. I know you could tell. I hope you could tell. How did you guys feel? Did you have fun? We had a great time. I mean, we ended, so we got out of the mansion and I felt like we were

really speaking in a beautiful way sort of about what the ride means to us and what it can mean to people and the meaning, the great meaning you could get from it. But then I had to start yelling about that gift shop, which I hate. I hate the gift shop. I don't know how you feel. I would love to ask you, too, because I think we're all sort of disappointed in that gift shop. Do you have any feelings about the gift shop now they built in the last year or two? You know, I don't at this time. I'm going to have to check it out.

And I, you know, maybe I will in the near future because I, you know, it might be a good time to kind of explain what happened with me because I, you know, I really was going to just like, you know, splash water on my face, a reset. Like that really was the, I wanted to come back and join you guys. But I realized that I had more self-reflecting to do, even more than in the last year and even more than in the year before that. And I had so much self-reflection to do, in fact, that it kept going and going over the course of hours. and a drive and long story short as you can see i am at the haunted mansion i am i am in front of the haunted mansion right now uh i made it guys this is i mean but i'm so glad that the reflection

took me here because now what we have is the in eight years it's the first time that we've had content recorded on actual haunted mansion soil can you believe it wow this is exciting can i take a photo of the three of us with you yes yes in the background here. This will be good. I'll take a screenshot. The hallowed halls. I made it.

I mean, what a contribution to bring to the table. I mean, this is better than me staying in that room with you guys, isn't it? This is something. This is something. You're right about that. I'm having a hard time. We weren't set up for this,

but I think this will be all right. The three of us... Hey, guys. There we go. We got it. We got it. Wonderful. Great to see you, Guy. Great to see you, Hornow.

And I, you know, again, I know this didn't play out exactly. uh you know the way you might have expected but but i think it had to be this way because if you guys if i'm hearing this right you actually are out of the mansion that that that's wild uh we are out of the mansion yes and i and i'm i'm sorry i missed that moment but what better way to celebrate than by being outside of the mansion myself i mean it's it's incredible getting to lay eyes on it and actually look at the you know i'm looking at the columns i'm looking at the veranda i can almost see into the foyer i can almost see into the foyer jason which which many american

homes have but this is the most special play of all and i and i'm just i am filled with haunted mansion spirit as i'm sure you are staying in that room and talking about it and i it just feels wonderful and i hope this is the the best possible way to close things out well i mean it's it's a great surprise that you're down there and i think everybody's going to be very happy with the episode um i will say just take take take a look at that building though and give us a quick a quick uh review of does it fit or not? Well, you know what? Why don't you just come along with me and I'll just like, I'll just go in there right now. Why about this? That's what, that would be perfect. Can you hear a lot of the atmospheric sound? People are going to think you're a vlogger. Yeah, yeah. Well, oh, finally. I mean,

like, I don't look cool enough to be one. I don't have hats cool enough to be one. But, you know, but maybe I can steal a little bit of the valor. Can you say hello friends? Can you do a little of that, like Mr. Morrow's type? Oh, don't steal Mr. Morrow's. It's a loving homage. All right, as long as it's a loving homage. What's up, guys? That's just an homage to 10,000 people. I don't know how to do an impression of Bricky.

I don't know how to impersonate all of the vloggers. But look at this. Behind me right here is the gift shop. I guess I can go in right now. What's kind of the problem? Does it look a little too modern? I guess it feels a bit modern to me. It doesn't fit aesthetically with the Honda Mansion.

It's too big and I think it ruins the scale of Tiana. This is a thing that Bricky actually said that I agree with. It ruins the scale of Tiana. and Haunted Mansion. It's like too big and it looks strange and it makes those two things look small. Ah, well, you got a tarot card sign and a lot of jack skillings. The ceiling looks nice. I don't know. I think I'm mixed. I mean, I, you know, it's tough when I'm navigating a bunch of eyelines here, but I don't, hey, it does feel a little modern. They have to, they have to gunk it up, I think, a bit. The, the kind of elephant doors are a little too clean. But look at this.

I'm going to dive you right into a big pile of zeros. Watch this. Here you go. All right, get ready. Whoa. Wow. Blum, blum, blum, plum, plum, plum. And that's the kind of thing that couldn't have happened unless I went on that journey of

self-discovery that began at 1124 and has ended here. At 124. Yeah. Is that what time it is? There was two hours ago? Yeah, it is. You made that commute pretty good. I, you know, I was really concerned with, like, making sure that I had enough time and, like, am I going to get there?

And should I park in downtown Disney or should I do garden walk? Which security line is going to be like. And then I got here. I got to my spot in front of the haunted mansion, and I sat there for half an hour, and I was still waiting for you guys. And we didn't even get too long. I think it'll be close to two hour. I think it's, you know, we didn't do a three hour. It would have been funny.

Well, wait, did you guys like, did you take a bathroom break or something? We did, yes. Yeah. Okay, that's because I asked guys strategically to take a bathroom break. to buy me more time. I really did have to go to the bathroom. Yeah, I think he all did. Did you have a bag of pee in your pants

to make it sound like you were peeing in the toilet, like you were trying to pass a drug test? I left my house at 9.30 a.m. Well, the deceptions never end. Boy, yeah. You know, it was not intended as deception. It was intended as self-reflection. And look at this, the sun shining

from behind the beautiful building that I'm so glad that we devoted these eight years to. I'm going to declare this to you, now this series this haunted mansion series that was my idea this is my greatest creation even more so than my two sons wow it's their they're two and three the ranking not age wise their numbers two and three and number one is this haunted mansion series and i can't wait to listen to all the adventures you guys got up to thank you guy for for taking my my place uh and i guess you survived hauntcast the fright unless you already said that mike no i haven't said it yet so

you're doing that uh you can even do you want to do the plus you want to do the plus or should I do that after you're off the phone? Oh, geez. Do I have it memorized enough to do? I can say, I can I stick to the shop. Oh, yeah, Guy. Not that I'll hear it very well, but Guy, let's exit through the gift shop

that we're divided about if it's good or not, if it's too modern and ruins the area. Guy Selga, you survived on Cast the Fright, let's exit through the gift shop. Is there anything you'd like to plug? Sure, I'll plug Touringplans.com and the unofficial guide to Disneyland for all your Disney World, Disneyland,

and Disney Cruise Line trip planning needs. And all my social media is at Guy Selga. I just post about theme parks pretty much constantly. Yeah, check them out. Yes, great posts. And you've been a great partner in this adventure and in my adventure of self-discovery. I knew you were the guy to be the different guy.

Thank you, Guy Selga. Much appreciate it. I also understand that you came in with the Belgian names. Is that correct? Yes, we did not get to the seat. Scott's assignment last year was 10 Belgian names. I don't, come on. I prepared them in case you didn't go over them before I got in here.

Well, that's, you were very prepared. Yeah. Wow, yes, you know, he asked if he should do the Belgian names. And yes, Guy remembered, Guy did it. He was prepared in every way. He could have been prepared between the names and the false bathroom break. This couldn't have worked out better. And you know what?

Now I'm going to, I'm going to go take a ride. After eight years of talking, it's time to start doing some writing. And I'm sorry you guys aren't. with me, but you had to, you know, keep doing the episode. That's okay, yeah. Enjoy the ride, and I just want to let you know that Jason didn't know the Monopoly was back at McDonald's. He had missed that. I'm learning. Okay. Is that the kind of thing you would be mad at him for not knowing, or was it just kind of benign? No, I've been upset the whole episode.

Okay, that sounds right. It's come up multiple times. All right, look, I'll go give the mansion a kiss for you. Hey, for the full Hauntcast, the Fright Experience, head to the cemetery. gate or join our RIPC3 at patreon.com slash podcast the right that really got a look out of a couple people around me I think now that I'm loudly plugging they really do think I'm a vlogger I'm finally there I'm in I'm in Bricky territory hey Bricky I'll let you I'll let you wind it down any further than that though thank you thank you thank you Michael thank you thank you guy thank you Hornell thank you Scott have a good ride bye and I mean look when the

AI takes over that's what we're all going to be doing down there we're all going to be at Disneyland doing video content we're going to have to that's just the only job that's going to be left is theme park vlogger when AI and like robots take over I've said this before unless the AI writes the food review and then hire someone on fiber to go buy the item and then take a picture of it on top of a trash can in the park right so I guess we all have recession proof yeah and AI robot proof jobs and then quickly throws the food away without eating again. Yes.

So anyway, thank you, Guy, for doing this. This is a big triumph. I feel like us finishing the Disneyland version of haunted mansion. And we are not even, we haven't even talked about the upgrades, the changes. And the queue,

we didn't get to the queue today. Holiday overlay. I thought we were pretty good mentioning, you know, some slight changes of the queue and the gift shop. The new bride? The new bride. Oh, my God. You're right.

We didn't even talk about the new bride. Hey, guys, to eight more years of Haunted Mansion. Hey, eight men, brother. Yeah, we're not done with the Haunted Mansion yet. Forever. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gerdner, Brett Boehm, Joe Silio, and Alex Ramsey.

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