Podcast: The Ride - The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

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Forever Dog. all across the world on today's podcast, The Ride. deep in the hundred podcast woods lived a boy named mike stiffer carlson like most 40 year old boys mike stiffer has many toys many many a lot of many toys but his favorite of all is his rumbly tumblied littlely little pal, Jason the Pooh. Now, when Jason the Pooh speaks, he sounds exactly like the Disney character Winnie the Pooh. I mean, exactly. So, when he speaks in just a second, get ready for a voice that's 100% just like Winnie the Pooh. So, here he is now, Jason the Pooh. Oh, bother. So here he is now Jason the Pooh Oh bother Start the party without me

That's a little You know I think it's You are with a twinge Of Lorne Michaels Yeah It is Yeah it's a little Lorne But that's

You know the thing about Rabbit is You know Rabbit needs to Take the energy down And you know Because there's a Mellowness to the

Hundred acre wood You know when Danny And Johnny and I Were trying to And, you know, because there's a mellowness to the 100-acre wood. You know, when Danny and Johnny and I were trying to go get the beehive from the top of the tree, you know, we really just got stung a lot. We wanted practical beehives in the bee sketches. And we got that at the Disneyland version of this ride. Every other one, they went with honeypots. You know, they say that when you're the voice actors, when they're creating they combine two voices and that's what jason just did yeah so poo is eeyore

plus lauren michaels right his poo version of poo is eeyore plus lauren michaels so we'll check in with that poo constantly during this episode i guess i guess we'll have to yeah i was wondering i was like oh man i feel like there's a number of characters in the 100 Acre Woods that could be. Who is he going to nail my ass with? Just the main one. Probably Pooh. It could be Dior.

You made it sound like one of them, at least. You're not Dior. You're not the gopher. Could be the American original character, Gopher. Pooh, though, is the most popular popular character so it's not all bad you think more popular than taker i think so okay taker's a little much well when tigger joined you know tigger broke out and you know because tigger was very physical and brought an energy you know um but poo is that thing where the cast can't evolve you you know. And when we made it to Heffalump movie, Tigger is the sex.

Tigger is the draw for the ladies. Tigger is the sex. Tigger is the bounce. We replaced him with Billy and Tigger. And I feel like they both hit pretty quickly. But yeah, Pooh, I feel like Pooh, Pooh is like your Bill Haters. He's the Phil hartman of this like

those these are like the some of the mainstays of the show yeah winnie the poo cast onto i'm saying just like sort of like reliable dependable consistent and that's poo bear that's what jason is well rue i think would be rue is like the pete davidson due to youth you see oh of course yes rue that's another one i'm like oh i i whatever my childlike wonder or naivete what whatever you want to call it uh you would vote you would identify with rue i think i identify a little with rue and eeyore and poo and piglet and piglet oh i see piglet with you yeah yeah yeah there is probably there's certain times when i feel like jason and i maybe trade off being like piglet and poo and poo sometimes jason's like oh why are we doing this why are we doing this michael what do you mean we're trying

to get into this comic-con party we're going to get arrested what do you mean michael gets really excited about like or tigger yeah a deal you know you get tigger energy you like when you said on this podcast uh who gives a shit or who gives a fuck about grapefruit that's almost sort of like kind of a piglet like what are we what do you mean grapefruit this who gives a shit about grapefruit i still i think it was coming from a much angrier place i think it was coming from an angrier place than any winnie the pooh character fair enough there's not that much anger but also i hate to tell you this mike you're rabbit oh yeah i am rabbit stress true yeah yeah in if we're going on the yeah the equal playing field with no dynamics versus another person yes i am rabbit

yeah uh yeah yeah i think so it's like when there's a and jason but that's where jason's poo because jason's trying to get into your place to steal snacks and i'm trying to explain something to jason and he falls asleep like poo bear he's just like he just zones out when i'm saying that i mean that happens to me that look let's be honest that happens to all of us when we're talking talking to partners about theme park stuff we are all a little bit rabbit where we're trying to explain the new ride or what we're happy about or upset about and then they all turn into eeyores just energy wise right so we all three years poo multitudes we all contain many poo characters this is sort of a new religion i'm workshopping right now we all kind of do you know what you know

what's something i think we'll all fall into also is like i think we can all have an owl about us in that you know owl will like oh i know all about that and then he'll go get the book and then pontificate and here's everything i know about this and we the viewer knows that he has the book turned upside down right that's us with our pronunciations and our falsehoods yes everything that we get wrong on a regular i say yes i say we all think honey is spelled h-u-n-n-y in real life i think i was trying to figure out the poo astrology of like poo sun eeyore moon tigger uh piglet rise and i'm like i don't remember enough of the specifics about like well everyone knows your sun sign but then your moon sign is really what you are and rising sign

influences you and i'm like oh i don't know this well enough i don't know you got you got it better than me you're more of an owl on that than i am i don't know himself he was trying to be like an authority but then he just explained that he doesn't know. So like owl has shown his owl butt yet again. Yeah. His owl butt? Yeah, showing your ass. That's the phrase, right? Sure.

It is? Isn't the phrase showing your ass when you like embarrass yourself? Oh. Am I wrong? It is, but I also, I think my intent to be an authority was undone by the second half of my sentence where I admit my foolishness. That's true. You did admit. You're right. I was pining of like, oh, I wish I knew this a little bit. already was undone by the second half of my sentence where i that's true you were you did

admit you're right i was pining of like oh i wish i knew this a little bit you self-owled or something you you i don't know what the phrase would be self-owled that's maybe not it but something like that um well we all have affinity for these characters in this world seemingly and we're here by the way in case because there's a lot of like generic winnie the pooh things are always named many adventures and event i even forgot i forget what the saturday morning cartoon was called and they all win which is which and all blends together to be clear we are talking about the ride which is at uh both american parks it's in hong kong and it's in shanghai uh just so you know but i think it's fair to keep on the table here uh fondness for the world fondness for the characters because that might help us calibrate

how we feel about these uh attractions yes for sure and you brought up the saturday morning the abc poo bear because like i think we all grew up with the original cartoons all those songs the right way the poo that stuff i think passed generationally yeah excellently i can say because my mom really wanted to show me those and i loved them and i've passed them to my son yes those those of all the things that don't uh transcend generations mike love uh quote i'll say uh winnie the pooh definitely winnie the pooh is the beach boys of uh cartoons in a lot of ways um i think in early brian is poo another one in early disney channel where they would chop it up maybe or or chop up the segments and air it or just air the original movie in its entirety it got re-released on vh it was released on vhs in the

early 80s and then re-released in the mid 90s because it was all these it was these like separate shorts like if you were watching this in real time all the shorts came out separately but then all uh got combined into sort of the unofficial feature many adventures of winnie the pooh which is three of them that's tigger two and blustery day and whichever one is the bees i think yeah uh yeah but then you're yes mike also the saturday morning cartoon which i thought was wonderful and i love that theme the theme theme hits me like haunts me in a good way yeah and it's what a start that is no like drug there's no like little uh prelude it's just gotta get it Wow Yes Slams in High energy

Just like What's with his homie It's you know Like no No little fill To get you in there Yeah Starts with the words

Yeah I think a lot I think everybody Sees the symmetry Between Weezer And the Winnie the Pooh Yeah yeah Sure

Same yeah Well the 90s Around the same era Written around the same time So one influenced The other Weezer yes Yeah River's presumably Influenced by the Winnie the Pooh Who did use Well, the 90s, around the same era, written around the same time, so one influenced the other. Yeah, River's presumably influenced by the Many Adventures theme. Pooh did use some of his success, you know, his money to go back to an Ivy League school and get a degree.

Like Rivers. I hate to say it, he needed it. Pooh needed it. There's a big education gap with Pooh. Since we were talking about the original Many Adventures of winnie the pooh i i didn't know a couple things one i didn't know it came out in 1977 like i didn't know it was so recent like so close to the 80s i also didn't know was originally released uh on a double bill with a movie called escape from the dark aka the.k.a. The Littlest Horse Thieves.

Those are the same movie? The same movie. Really? In England, it's called Escape from the Dark, and in America, it was called The Littlest Horse Thieves. These are very different tones of title. Yeah. And there's multiple thieves?

Are all the people in the photo or the poster thieves? I think all the people. the photo or the poster thieves? I think all the people. They can't all be thieves. There have to be some good guys. Are the thieves good? No, the thieves are good. They're little. Yeah, yeah.

I think they're trying to rescue horses from going to the slaughterhouse. Oh, they're good thieves. They're good thieves. What a scary premise of a movie. You're getting kids in to see Winnie the Pooh, and now we're thinking about horse slaughter? You're going to be worried about Eeyore the whole time. Is there some plant that wants to melt Eeyore down? Use his tail to make belts?

Well, that's probably in that Winnie the Who Blood and Honey R-rated Pooh Bear public domain shit. That's too twisted for me. Sorry, I'm just saying that now that the characters public The characters are public domain you can do stuff like that Blood and honey is a kind of cool phrase It is a good I mean blood and anything Elvis Costello's blood and chocolate Blood and anything is actually kind of a cool title

I guess we could find one that isn't Like Blood and Blood and insulin It's not as interesting Blood and Blood and insulin It's not as interesting They're in the family of Blood and certs You know the candy certs

I don't think that's very cool It's okay Blood and Swedish Fish I say because there's Swedish Fish Blood and Swedish Fish is okay Depending on what you're titling I think That would be the name of a really irritating stand up special Yeah that's true

Like a Scottish comedian from 2004 put a dvd out you americans i can't believe he's certainly he's certainly fighting let's talk about the crusades your your president is so dumb that was not scottish i can't do scottish this is really hard yeah littlest horse thieves my god uh uh geez uh oh and alistair simms last movie it's sad on several levels you gotta be sad not that i know who that is oh he played scrooge oh all right well he must be a great he was a british character actor shakespearean actor probably i saw the phrase they're trying to rescue pit ponies and i'd never encountered that but i have no idea what that means ponies i'm assuming racing horses that can't race anymore farming horses that can't farm my minds they're in the mind they're in the

mind i didn't know horses went in the minds i guess they have to pull the cards. Makes sense. Yeah. Welcome to Pooh Corner also. Yes. Looms large. Welcome to Pooh Corner, the live action suited character show that was on early Disney Channel that had this really like specific kind of haunting kind of creepy vibe with its painted backdrops look at the poo face on this picture who has this like thousand yard stare this mascot suited character yeah jason you watch this i yeah i i vaguely remember this i saw that one because that looks very similar to the one walking around the park uh there's a video on youtube just called poo falls down and it was just the

person in the suit was walking along with twit tigger and they just kind of eat shit and everyone no no he fell cast members help him up and get him off stage you know get him backstage to like collect themselves i feel like on this show if there'd been the episode when poo fell it would be to like addiction peer pressure uh mental illness i this this show feels so heavy to me and i don't think it always was but i feel like we probably all to some extent are aware of the one about strangers and not talking to strangers yeah and just see seeing the the notion of strangers even puncture the world of winnie the pooh yeah at all is so like no his his fluff and stuff brain can't handle these these scary concepts don't put poo through these paces yeah the, the 100 Acre Woods was this special place where no danger like that existed.

Mm-hmm. I guess some danger existed, but it wasn't. Yeah, this is too real world. Piglet, this is crack. That's where you don't. It's too. But also then, just the vibe of this show and the show dumbo circus which was similar suited characters yes um scary they just are both scary shows that were in the same way other you know

shows almost in hindsight are creepy zoobly zoo or something even though those weren't quite those weren't suited characters they had face paint on but they're a different type of a different type of creepy that you go back and you watch and you're like this is so unnerving but i do think the unnervingness uh was making me extra interested in it i think there is something compelling about some of these old shows because of it lodged in your brain more than like a more normal cartoon or show that didn't have that that yes eerie air do you think it was probably just like cheapy shows made at pmgm studios yeah in florida yeah i think for sure yeah i don't think that well i don't know if we know that oh no i don't know where they were made i just i i am agreeing with you that they were cheapy shows oh okay i

don't think there's any way they weren't cheapy shows because they kind of had like a couple sets knock them out yeah yeah yeah i don't know where they were shot the word unnerving because i wrote that down because like there's like uh uh stuff in the ride like i like the effect when poo falls asleep and starts to dream and it's like a projection thing and then you go into the half lumps and woozles as a kid the half lumps and woozles dream sequence i found so unnerving uh when you would see it on the on the tv on the disney channel or whatever like it just gave me the creeps i didn't song was haunting i don't like why is this bear he lives in the woods with his friend like why is he haunted in his dreams i don't think i liked it i don't remember

exactly i think i but i think it was more like we don't need to watch this part i wasn't like so scared of it but it was not the stuff i liked right um i want to say that this is maybe a rare area where i was not particularly scared my perhaps my mother could point me to many terrible incidents involving efflumps and woozles and i'm wrong but i don't yeah i was thinking that because it's you know within on this spectrum it's kind of like a psychedelic sequence right yeah and you know you know the way we are we'd be psychedelic sequences for kids tsk tsk yeah i was like is it gonna go that way and i don't i don't feel that way but because because it's like uh i i think uh um obvious precedence um pink elephants on parade

is way scarier more upsetting i think heffalumps and woozles first of all they're smiling and i find the smiles creepy and it's such just like fun eye-popping animation i don't think i was ever upset by it i don't think it makes all the sense in the world that you guys were anybody uh would yeah i wasn't i don't have such a scare like i don't have a memory of like the end of pinocchio or anything like that where i was so freaked out by donkey stuff pleasure island and other things and the witch and snow white and stuff so i don't have that memory but i don but I don't feel it in my brain that I had any big affection for this. I could be wrong, but I just don't remember.

The psychedelic stuff. And then also, it's in The Wind in the Willows and some of the Pooh stuff. There's this melancholy, now I recognize, melancholy british countryside oh yeah yeah pining and i'm like as a kid that i did not like that i like the funny stuff yeah yeah you know like like the feeling of like long you're getting like the feeling of longing longing and you're five years old which now i'm realizing it's like people longing for a world before the great war sure sure of course this is the perspective brings to the show that's what i that's i didn't recognize that at the time i was just like christopher robin lives in a post-war he lives in a war-torn

england that's true so if you ever think it feels sad this I'm surprised there's this much heaviness being brought to that. I think they're all a blast. I love all the old Winnie the Poohs. You don't think there's sort of a sadness, like a melancholy, even to the song? No, to the main song? I think so. I think it's sweet and fun and nice.

I think it's that too. I'll be the first to feel. Look, everything you're saying About yeah I'm definitely Get odd feelings From Pooh Corner And

But I And But even like I don't think it even has The like To me it doesn't Quite have the melancholy Of peanuts or anything

I think of like That's a different I think of fun And physical and silly And he's flying around On the balloon He's spitting bees Out of his mouth I think there's a lot Of like Pure joy I think of fun and physical and silly and he's flying around on the balloon. He's spitting bees out of his mouth.

I think there's a lot of like pure joy. I have trouble ascribing the notion to Winnie the Pooh that it's like melancholy and sad. At least not like as its primary facets. I am talking about like there's probably five or ten minutes like cumulative. Okay, sure. That happens at the beginning or end of some of this stuff. That book, like when the book opens and it's the theme and it's like Christopher Robin, there is something there. There is, I don't know if longing is even the right word that I feel, but there is something wistful. There is some extra feeling. It's not like the ABC Pooh Bear where it's like, let's fucking go.

Like, that's the energy of the Pooh Bear. That's the energy you're ascribing to. Of the ABC. Pooh Bear, Winnie the Pooh Bear. Let's fucking go. Let's fucking go. Let's have some fun and shit. What would Pooh Bear sound like if he said, let's fucking go?

Like Deadpool or Wolverine are going to say in this upcoming film. Or it may come out depending on when we release this. let's fucking go like deadpool or wolverine are gonna say in this upcoming film or it may come out depending on when we release this let's fucking go he's so celsius grab the celsius energy drink and let's go it has to be higher first things first yeah that did it right there he's more like this pooh bear I can get it sometimes I think that's pretty good That's pretty good Jason Oh rabbit

Ow That helps a ton That nudge That's all That's what it needed Okay let's fucking go Piglet That's

That's pretty good I'm pretty impressed by your poo Yes That's pretty good Yeah yeah There's like a little That's the more the Sterling Hollow Like this

Gotta get way back there Can I without saying the phrase to let you say it yeah what if winnie the pooh shared your one of maybe your primary interest in what you like to do when you go to las vegas the kind of thing that you like to to go to pool party but other words there yeah you're missing one key word in that. Yeah, the adjectives. Do she pool party? Great, yes. Piglet, I want to go to... What DJ's spinning tonight, Pooh?

DJ Tigger. T1, GG8, that'll number eight, and then an R. What republic hasn't been the same years? It's i lose after a little bit yeah the poo bear it's it's interesting it's really easy to lose yeah oh bother you kind of can i can reset like on oh bother like piglet saying piglet or something yeah i don't know yeah that's what's the video i keep those key phrases yeah and just go back to him oh let's fucking go oh father maybe does poo bear say let's fucking go in any of these uh r-rated public domain movies i wonder he might and he should now if if nobody's done it we could make a poo bear movie i just want to let everyone in the audience know in case you hadn't heard you can make a poo bear movie tomorrow you can announce it you can

shoot it you will not get sued. You probably can't put the red shirt on that he wears in the Disney specific stuff, but yeah, you can use the characters. Yeah. Yeah. We can... Yeah, we could... All of our darkest visions can come to life. We can swear once.

I believe there's a sequel coming to Blood and Honey because Tigger went and published Well, the same people are also making an an evil steamboat willie movie too right steamboat willie specific version of mickey is now in the public domain i've i've i'm trying to find i was like can i i'm on the imdb quotes for the uh the twisted winnie the pooh blood and honey oh yeah because i was like maybe i can hand you some crazy phrase that he says but unfortunately the craziest phrase there's only two quotes everybody's sleeping on this imdb but the craziest quote is from christopher robin and it's this poo you've got to help me something's wrong with piglet he killed my wife and that doesn't show up in the ewan mcgregor christopher robin maybe you're mixing up the quotes and it's from the ewan mcgregor yeah yeah christopher rollin maybe you're mixing up the quotes and it's from the ewan mcgregor yeah yeah

christopher robin movie yeah they could have a twisted maybe that movie's good i forgot about that movie existed and i was like oh i wonder they should make a grown-up christopher robin movie and i thought five more minutes about it and i was like they did that uh four years ago and you have you seen it? I have not seen it. I don't know if I've seen a trailer of it. I've watched it. Now, that is a sad movie. That's very sad.

That seems like a philia. Yeah, I didn't want that. I don't want to be sad about that. Yeah, that's kind of a bummer. I'm not going to sign up for something that looks sad from that. I mean, when I was a kid and saw Hook in theaters, I was like, there's a lot of sad parts of this. Yeah, no, and I wanted to run away.

I say Hook is to be avoided at all costs. Well, sure. Especially knowing that the man who played Hook is a real life Hook. Sure. And it's a creepy movie on so many levels and also this isn't it weird that thing that like julia spielberg hated julio roberts they did not get along right and i think it'd be hard to watch it and all it's already got the creepy patina and now you're going like this but spielberg i thought spielberg is great i thought he was

everybody's friend right what happened why was why did he, how did that happen? It stresses me out that he was mad at Julia Roberts. He does. Yeah. He's Mr. Like everything, like everyone likes him. You would think. Yeah.

So yeah, it is weird to think of him as like a person, a normal person. Not that I don't know why, like a normal person should be able to get along with Julia Roberts. I would think, but I don't know. I'm not sure. So I don't know i'm not sure so

i don't know that makes that humanizes spielberg in some ways in my mind because yes i you just think of him as like mr movies yeah and he's just like this sort of inoffensive character and like i don't even know like what is the spielberg like george lugas that's you could do a character you could do a voice you could do kind of a bit but i don't even know what the spielberg bit is that he's just sort of could do kind of a bit, but I don't even know what the Spielberg bit is. That he's just sort of talking about lenses and talking about, like, I don't have a good lock on what he's like even. There's not a lot of Spielberg impressions, are there? Right.

And I don't know what it would be. Well, the only way in is that we don't have much time and E.T. needs your help. Right. That's the only thing that I know that he says. Right, right. And he says it kind of hurried, he says it kind of flat, we don't have much time, E.T. needs your help Right That's the only thing That I know that he says Right right And he says it kind of hurried He says it kind of flat We don't have much time

E.T. needs your help Mmhmm So These magic bikes This Magic passport Oh hi E.T. Short clips

Not good on camera So imagine him like Screaming at Julie Roberts But it's actually like that Maybe it wasn't screaming Right not screaming Just being mad at her Yeah yeah yeah

Light up I don't have much time I don't like your vibe mm-hmm we'll be are my notes to you will be submitted via form

so long big personalities to manage that movie right I mean what do you mean Robin Williams me

uh Hoskins I think Hoskins is probably the most low maintenance maybe feel like he worked in a lot of low budget British stuff I think Hoskins is probably the most low maintenance. Maybe. I feel like he worked in a lot of low budget British stuff where he would probably be pretty chill now.

I don't know. But you can also hear his voice going, this production's a madhouse. Nothing works right around here. Go stick it up your ass. I don't know who to blame, Stephen or Julia, but I don't like either of you. I thought the bloody kids would be the problem. The grown-ups are acting like kids, and the kids are acting like adults. This whole movie sets topsy-turvy. Robin Williams is the most level-headed one of us all.

What's that saying? I thought he was a loon. I seen him in Popeye. I thought this guy's a loon. It turns out he's acting. It would be really good if there was like a director after they were done, in the same way that Schumacher was talking about all the actors on Batman Forever and who he liked and who he didn't and who worked well.

If every director would just put that on record and then maybe 50 years later, that would all become released. Yeah. That would be so interesting to know. Or like who you didn't get along with who you didn't like who you thought did a bad job i'm always fascinated by that yeah because like movies see you feel so like there's just no other way these famous movies could have been there's no other actor that could have played this i'm sure like any creative person or like like certain casting decisions drove them nuts sure it's still like i fucking hate the way this person played this yeah yeah years and years from now the russo

brothers list comes out and there's only one name on it and it's you they liked every every adventure and only me i was that the one where you were on the big plane or the with the wings or what were you doing for the russo brothers no i was doing i doing, I did a Smirnoff commercial for the Russo brothers for Canada only. I was going to be in both an American spot and a Canadian spot. And they brought me back twice for the callback. I improvised in front of the Russos twice. They said, they want you for both. They booked me for both.

I said, well, that's good. Captain America's coming out. I'm surely going to be Captain America's friend next movie. Then they do one. And then they call. Just so you guys know, I do a Winnie the Pooh. If you need that. If you want a Pooh bear.

I have a Donald, but I can't get words out. It's just going to sound like, but I'll work on it for you guys. I'll work on it. I got nine seconds of Pooh until it starts struggling. And then I got a call from my agent saying there's some sort of rule where you can't do two country spots you can only do one they want you for the canadian smirnoff because that is the more people in this and this was a whole big like adam scott i was an adam scott i think so like campaign with a bunch of famous people in it so they said we want you for the canada one because we don't have any famous people,

and that's going to be more of a featured spot. So I said, that sounds great. So I did the spot. It was advertising the, I'm trying to think, it's a tomato sauce, tomatoes, like, I'm trying to think. It's a drink that's just like celery and tomato juice and vodka. Clamato? Is it a clamato is it that clams there's

some other name for it i think i saw the other name for it is the shit i hate it's not a good it's a caesar thank you it's a bloody it's a twist on a bloody i saw dan akroyd advertising so i did this popular and cam i had i got a couple lines in it obviously commercial short a couple lines in it i talked to a couple people who are like these russo brothers they love to improvise they're gonna let you it's gonna be so much fun you'll be able to improvise and i go well this sounds fantastic this sounds like you're not even gonna have to stay focused on the seizure you can go off seizure i can go off seizure now i had done this already a few times so i know that like you're not really allowed to like really go off that hard this is 30 seconds but still i was like all

right interesting uh i got there uh my lines were all cut they had already been cut and then i go but improvising is in the face it's in the expressions you make and how wide your eyes go and uh i did the thing and it was fine it was a perfectly pleasant day and then one time i think i just went like like i'm gonna go okay and i did it in like a funny way and joe russo laughed and then the commercial never aired and i never got paid for it you never got paid for it well i got the day right sorry sorry i just the day rate's fine you get a day basically all works i don't know why i'm talking about the day right you get once if it doesn't air then that's all you get which is fine but you know so no it never aired and then i was not captain america's buddy in the next one in case anyone didn't know insult to injury uh-huh so

which sounds like a joke but i feel like captain america does pal around with rick jones he sure does i think we talked i think at the time i go jason i've booked two commercials rick jones a role is incoming for me i think did you say that out loud i didn't say it in that like i was completely delusional but i was i was probably like who can i play jason what do you think and we were trying to figure it out or something wow and we hit on the early 20s kind of like eventually you get superpowers and you like and you know why i actually with a lot of you know why i even went down this train like went down this trail was because Dominic Dirkus has, no, no, D.C. Pearson.

D.C. Pearson. I thought of another Derek person. I mixed them up. D.C. Pearson is in Winter Soldier. Oh. In the Apple store.

They did get comedy riffraff. You could have riffraffed your way in there. Oh, geez. So, there's still time. Yeah. Yeah. Well, something else there's still time for is talking about the ride

in this episode about the ride. We can cut the last part of this. We can cut that out. Don't have to. I don't know. No, we're going to watch. Yeah, but we're

we can cut the last part, but we're going to watch all of the littlest horses. The littlest horse thieves. Littlest horse thieves. All right. So edit. I've already forgotten

the name of the movie. Edit here. And when we come back, we'll have watched all of the littlest horse thieves. Littlest Horse Thieves. All right, so edit. I've already forgotten the name of the movie. So edit here, and when we come back, we'll have watched all of The Littlest Horse Thieves. The Littlest Horse Thieves. Guys, I'm a little upset. We just finished Littlest Horse Thieves, and they're so little, and the horses were so scared. They were afraid.

And I don't know if we can go on with this boo episode, but we're going to have to muscle through. It's what the horse thieves would have wanted. Let's fucking go. Let's fucking go. Let's fucking fucking go let's talk about the ride this ride uh showed up in the magic kingdom 25 years ago this summer uh and it was a disneyland not long after it's been added to the new parks that they've built since but never made it to uh disneyland paris tokyo a whole other situation i imagine we'll talk yeah

yeah um i think we probably know the disneyland version the best magic kingdom it's in fantasy land it replaced mr toad disneyland it is in critter country where it replaced the country bears yeah it's a killer it's killed twice who is a killer but the signs of blood and honey were there yeah yeah um he still has his souvenirs his trophies the heads are still in the disneyland mr toad's head is dripping with both blood and honey um i think that if this ride gets a bad rap at all some of it might come from those initial uh uh kill it kickings out what do you got when a landlord kicks out a oh eviction evictions um i think that that might be like a sting still to some people because these are these are beloved attractions built. That was, I think, a superior Mr. Toad, an excellent Mr. Toad in Disney World with the two tracks.

Yes, big and expansive, different experiences, depending on which side that you did. It goes down to one ride with one track. And then, and Country Bears, two Country Bear theaters took up a lot of space, and it it became this one of the poo ride now i think at the time there was the feeling that this was crass and that poo is cute and poo is moving a lot of merch in the parks and we'll move a lot more merch if we can get an established poo attraction and poo zone yeah and then we can really make the merch fly off the show this is i remember the feeling on the internet at the time felt like it's just crass and poo is cute i though love winning the poo growing up to me it makes all the sense in the world that there could have been a

winnie the pooh ride well there wouldn't have been because poo was made after the 50s but it's like uh uh you know if there if there's been a poo ride in either any of these parks much earlier mid 80s i think it would have made a lot of sense poo of course deserves a place in uh yeah there were potentially plans for one okay but it kept getting shelved okay sure so they were trying they're trying to figure it out i on, on the other hand, loved Mr. Toad so much as a weird little child, I was very upset to find Toad clothes at a coming soon Whitty the Pooh ride. And the more I thought about it, I was like, I don't think I've ridden the Florida Pooh since the 90s.

Maybe I haven't either. Or early 2000s maybe. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know that i have either are we discover it well look we've been on the disneyland one so we're not in such bad shape here and i watched ride throughs of all of them uh yeah i've been on it but yeah not for a while you're not alone jason and uh if you have not made it all the way to club three the the deepest acreage in our hundred acre wood uh then you have not heard our episode about toadins a pretty inexplicable phrase yeah until you break it apart and learn that that

is those were the protests when toad mr toad's wild ride was going away in the magic kingdom uh toad hall was going to be demolished and that was definitely the angle on these things basically like what was interesting about the episode why people wanted us to do it was that these were essentially sanctioned protests in the park that the that they sort of let slide it was like all right these are a bunch of nerds from the internet they can do it they're not getting unruly we'll let them do we'll probably make it worse we'll rile it up more if we try to stop it so there was like a guy who worked there and like okay be safe fellas be good and the and the protests went fine and then they ultimately had no effect and mr toad went away and poo came in

but uh genuinely there was uh some some definite anti-poo sentiment at least in the magic kingdom and i'd say here too and on the west coast as well less so i think just from reading archival stuff like it seems like the toad thing obviously was a big thing a big bigger deal because it was had a name and there was a movement more but there was certainly country bear fans that were not pleased and as you're saying it was like and then the gift shop goes in it's it's interesting because yeah well you're there's no reason like poo shouldn't have a ride those two things though uh happen that kind of put a cloud over the two rides and then the the japanese ride also now has a cloud over our american poo rides head in the same way so it's like it's not really fully fair to say these rides in america are bad they're not bad

no they're fun i think you'd be hard pressed to like actually just go on it with no if you have no knowledge of any of this history or what was there yeah if you are my then three-year-old going on this ride it's a delight you love this ride like there's nothing there's nothing wrong with this attraction right but maybe there's sometimes there this ride. Like, there's nothing wrong with this attraction. Right. But maybe sometimes there's the feeling of that there's not enough right about it. Well, right. I long for the Tokyo Disney Pooh's Honey Hunt, which is an amazing attraction.

And, of course, the lore of we could have had this, but we didn't get that. Like, there's no reason we should have a version just as good. yes there's this there's all this baggage that the poo rides in america have and it's not fully fair it's not completely fair because yes for your average park goer your average child and my child who's just watched the video of the poo ride she loves this like video just the video the video when poo floats away she laughs and laughs and then goes again she goes again and i go okay so we go back and i'm like like ride i go wow this is i know and and i i've said i've said before i don't like like like drill it on like i don't drill her with this stuff but i'll put something on and see what she responds to and immediately she responded tooh and all the characters on the ride through of the Disneyland version.

Jason has a kid, and it's like, this is William Holden. Learn. Learn to be good. Learn about culture. Garfield is not interested. He just wanders away. Oh, you're doing it with your dog. I'm doing it to the dog yeah i i did try to get him

on the big you know bigger screens try to get him to watch uh bluey uh because i i saw videos online that dogs respond well to it because the color palette is like bright it's like a shade not that they can necessarily see the colors but they can kind of see they like it a little more he did not care okay yeah our dog doesn't care about tv although my i say my my parents dog recognizes animals on the screen and will go nuts so he for some reason has like he has the ability to see TV and know what he's seeing. Our dog does not have that.

He's never, ever looked at the TV and cared. I don't know why, but if there is a horse in the very background of a shot, my parent's dog will hop up on the ottoman and go nuts. Just bark at full volume until that horse is gone.

He has such good vision. It's really weird. Garfield is like 10 now and only recently he started like noticing his reflection in mirrors and one day i caught him chasing it and he has also started doing whimpers when he wants attention or a treat he never did this he never ever did this new behavior so it's new old man behavior i guess okay your dog's becoming an old man um he is it happens edwin's old yeah um yeah uh do your listeners do your animals respond to media in this way and do you ever play this podcast around your dog or cat do they respond to our voices do they like some do they recoil at others what do animals think of our voices it's time to find out sound off in the comments i hope by

asking that question it's not going to be one of it's like not going to be like that story that just came out of the bitcoin mine in texas that's like it's emitting such an awful noise that it's hurting people in a like the vicinity of the mine oh god and animals are upset. So hopefully our podcast is not doing that. The whole town is a debacle on the town. Yeah, people are getting headaches and inner ear infections. But it could be happening because of us too. They're going to have to piece it together

like all these doctors across the world. Yeah. But the reason is that. Actually, the mine was fine. We all blamed the mine. What was really going on is that everyone in that town were ardent part podcast the ride fans yeah the dogs howl along when we start explaining new

reservation system a doctor is like let me ask you this question what do you think of king features syndicate and the person just passes out and they're like i knew it podcast the ride fan and they're like we got we have to get you off this. You have to listen to something like SmartList. We have to unimprint you. You need to listen to better podcasts. The good stuff. Yeah.

Yes. And doctors recommend SmartList. Right. Exactly. That's what I was saying. It's never caused an aneurysm. Right. So I am excited because I am like priming my daughter for a ride now, which is kind

of cool. Yeah. I'm very excited to see that when she does it in person, what that's going to be like, which it's closed right now. We're also, we can't go because we have the cheap pass. Oh, so all summer is kind of screwed. I think we're back in August. We could be back in August.

Yeah, I'm back in August. We've been looking at going and all of July is blacked out, which fair enough. Sure. That indicates a place you maybe don't want to be anyway. Even though I've heard it's been empty all summer. That's what people have been saying. It's a lot emptier this summer than Disney would like. Yeah.

So there's not as many people going. Well, I was reading some accounts that have american flags in their usernames and they're saying that's because of this new t-hunter oh and even though that's in disney world and not disneyland just the whole brand has such a stink at this point that people are avoiding it like a like the plague user brayer ryan yeah yeah 1776 uh-huh with uh there are a couple of those by the way if you haven't seen this people that have brayer something or they're like icon is it is real and you guys have made that joke and i assume no that is real i've seen a handful of that going on and it's like the person on tiktok who, they closed the ride. I need my daughter Briar.

I've seen people try to trash the Tiana ride by taking a video of the ride that has like stalled or like the lights have come on because they needed to evacuate and use like a piece of the video where there's not much going on and the lights on and people evacuating to like make it look bad like they're using yeah they're strategically using pictures to try to like get a narrative going and then they just and then they insert video of biden just staring off into the distance like and then they just play this and you go by a screen and just plays biden that doesn't help anything yeah no there's a lot of screens on the right now and most most of them are just Biden staring.

Yep. That's what's happening. Occasionally MSNBC. And frankly, that takes me out of it. Yeah. That's not what I want on a ride. They don't even own that channel. So they must.

They're being synergistic. Truly, it makes no sense. Sorry. So you're getting ready for this one. And let me see here. I think I can speak to the disneyland one yeah more and i watched ride throughs of all of them just to understand the differences and you know there aren't vast differences i would say between the four versions of the obviously tokyo not included um but it's it's very uh it is many adventures

the title is correct in in tradition of the the original feature that put shorts together you kind of jump through greatest hits winnie the pooh adventures it's blustery day it's rainy you meet tigger have the lumps and woozles poo has a party poo at the end is uh in hog heaven uh in a little little honey pit with all the honey he could ever want. In some of the other ones, but in the Disneyland one, it just goes, it's your birthday!

Happy birthday! That does kind of come out of nowhere, doesn't it? Yeah, it's a little sudden, but watching the Florida one and the Disneyland one back to back, I'm like, oh, I think they either had more room or more money in the budget. Like it just seemed a little less cheap in the way that Disneyland one is fun,

but a lot of it is peanut flats. Yes. True. I, I though want to stand up for the charm of the Disneyland one. Oh, sure. I now,

yeah, look, if I take out of it that it took out country bears and that's not so hard to do i like country bears but was i so addicted to this attraction that that's a problem i don't remember being like upset uh when it went away i remember being confused because it was right before the movie came out and is that not the worst time in the world to take the why would you take out a living ad for a movie you're putting into theaters um very strange uh didn't hurt the film which turned out glorious and is a esteemed classic that we revisit to this day um jason didn't look up from his ipad once while i was saying that oh no i was trying to read a screen grab i had a text

just catching up on some business, going through text. Text is a spreadsheet. Look at some receipts. No, no, about Pooh. It was screen grabs of Wikipedia. I was just double checking. Pooh, P-O-O-H. Got it.

Yes. Yeah, no, it wasn't just a big, my Dookie note is different. Your what? My Dookie, dookie note. My dookie note. Do you know what that is? Dookie? Like doo-doo.

Like poop? Yeah. You never heard it called a dookie? You, if anyone, should know what dookie is. I know. I'm slow. I didn't put the poo connection to it. I'm sorry.

Oh, okay. You had to wrap your head around the idea that Jason keeps a dookie note, which presumably is some way that he tracks the color consistency. I thought it was just thing the youth say. I thought it was like some youthful thing he was saying. And I was like, well, I'm lost again.

Well, you said it a long time ago. Listen to that album. All right. You're right. That's when you were with it is when kids were saying Dookie. I bought Dookie like six years after it came out. I was not ready for Dookie i bought dookie like six years after it came out i was not ready for no when i was that old 1994 i was not ready for the explosive raw punk rock of green day

yeah so i can't do it i agree with every one of those words that you yeah i bought blood sugar sex magic in the year 2001 and that's many many years after this is part of it these are because it's all so it's all your high school music that's in some ways it is because i because because like the first green day on my ball was warning i think which is like 2000 yeah i know you know of course yeah it's afternoon you can't start with warning i learned how to play crazy i learned how to play the guitar from listening to warning like that like there's still like pieces of warning in the way i play guitar so warning really ultimately warning was an indelible influence on the guitar work of my girls yeah yeah learning how to play power chords

from like the song cast away and it was actually like i picked it up fairly fast, which I think like made me keep playing. So I owe a lot to Green Day. Future Club 3 topic. If you want, anybody wants to throw it into a poll. Mike just plays guitar. Scott and Jason sit and listen and shut the fuck up. Yeah. My dream.

And we have to, with photographic evidence, prove that we didn't leave. Okay. I guess it could be a video. We could do a video. Yeah. We'll just, yeah. At least proof. At least with a timestamp be a video. We could do a video. Yeah. We'll just, yeah. At least, at least proof with a timestamp,

several timestamps, beginning and end. Sitting our asses down and listening to you playing guitar. Listening to me play guitar, specifically the songs from Warning. Podcaster, podcasting is conversations and conversations are about listening. And sometimes conversations are about listening to your co-worker jam on guitar yeah

nail warn it you also you're like maybe it could be a video if you kept going into like uh you know and maybe it could be like you know down low on me and maybe there's like a fan that's blasting in my hair and maybe uh you know the smoke machine maybe it could be at the will turn also you can shoot at the will turn do sit off on sale. Sure. Uh-huh. There's a song called Blood, Sex, and Booze on Warning as well. And that's not quite blood and chocolate or blood. There's two words there.

So that's pretty good. Yeah. Before we get into the ride, not to bring it back too long to Country Bears, did anyone else come across, I never saw this before i have no idea about this proposal or how far it got there was a proposal for a country bear racing attraction oh yeah yeah called critter country 500 oh right we talked a little bit about this i think in the country bear week oh okay um yeah there was an idea to take the characters and the country bear characters soapbox racers type attraction and there's some art from it and i wish that was there that would be awesome sounds really cool sounds really good um it seems like if the ride

is cool enough that you don't doesn't matter that people know the mythology or don't or they know winnie the pooh better or not that's the thing yeah that's the thing you would i would like argue till i was blue in the face with any executive where i was like do you understand that the ride has to be awesome and if the ride is awesome people will tell other people it's awesome and they will come here to do the ride yeah this is this is how all of your like lore was created it's all original stuff that's all that people thought was awesome so they said you should got to see a haunted the haunted mansion or pirates like yeah yes i don't know why it was an ip then it was just a new ride they did i don't know why this will never happen again i mean i know why but i don't also

don't know why i don't know why you would be like we just have to make something that's so amazing that's like feels original and people have never seen before and they will go nuts for it more so than an ip thing or at least as equal as a good everybody because people just want to keep their jobs people and i know why and because it's disney they still don't um yeah so actually on the on the end of not built stuff for this space i remember the rumor and maybe i said this back then when this all came up i feel like i heard the possibility that something that they were exploring which and this is going to sound a lot cooler than what we got is that the winnie the pooh ride would have taken advantage of the riverfront

nature of the of the building and that you would have like splash mountain gone into the river a little bit and what this might have been it was a gentle kids rapid flume type attraction where you're in i'm gonna guess a honeypot because that is round like a like a rapids raft yeah that's the term uh uh but doesn't that sound nice like a little like because i like any attraction like that you know and with a young kid now uh and being a scaredy cat kid myself, anything to help me in, lure me into the water. So if there had been a tiny flume or a tiny rapids ride, that would have helped me. And the way the tiny coasters help a lot. The gateway ride.

A gateway ride, yeah. To another more intense. They wouldn't like that phrase on Welcome to Pooh Corner. That's true. They would advise against that. But also what you're describing is like what we always talk about liking. It's just something that kind of intersects with a different part of the park in a way. Yeah, it uses what was there and ties it all together.

Absolutely. That is like what I would pitch at any time. If I worked on Imagineering, I would be yelling a lot at the executives. And then I'd also be pitching stuff that goes into other rides. Yeah. Like we say it all the time. It's just like the train going through Splash Mountain or- Skyway through Matterhorn.

People mover going into Star Tours. Yeah. So yeah, a little boat ride that started outside of the rivers, but then like kind of went in it or a little bit around it and you could kind of see the Mark Twain or something. Yeah. I think it would have spun down a little bit that far bobbed into i think i think man that's awesome yeah imagine a tiny version of that drop on uh river rapids that's awesome i don't know where i'm pulling that from though that might maybe that was just a rumor i don't know if that was ever anything the idea is cool cool idea though of like because it's not inherent that a poo ride

would be a dark ride a fantasyland right style ride and that's a that's an innovative way to do one now i what i was gonna head for is kind of defending the the critter country version that to me is part of it i i still have a tough time getting my head around winnie the pooh in fantasy land it feels weird to me winnie the pooh feels like nature pastoral i think this critter country placement makes more sense than the fantasy land version i don't like the critter country placement though really really i agree with you aboutland, but I also don't think he belongs in Critter Country. I think he does because I think the placemaking, and some of it is left over from Country Bears being there before. But I like the trees there.

I like the little waterfall. That's one of my little happy places in the park. The little waterfall, right when you get off that ride, it's kind of between the ride and the, and the shops really like actually like actually gentle, relaxing, contemplative, a thoughtful spot as Pooh would say in the park. Um, I don't know. I like the rock work and I think those big, I like those vehicles as opposed to honey pots. What the, what these are, they're beehives. They're're beehives they're big beehives yeah i

like i like being in this line i find the line the outdoor queue very pleasant i agree with all that loading outside like alice doesn't too you get in outside and then you go inside totally yes i never thought about that but i like that too yeah i agree with all of that and i like the disneyland stuff better i like every i like that whole area i like hungry bear all of that is a little more quiet than like a normal disney spot in general gentle browns it's a little autumn zone and over there i'm glad it's all kind of it seems like uh tiana's retaining the the vibe yeah like that corner is still really nice yes and they made it fit and it it's better, but I do think of Pooh Bear as a big book that you open up, and that's what I think of with the Fantasyland rides. Oh, okay, so this is a good debate point.

Yeah. I also like the big book. I was happy when the new Winnie the Pooh movie came out in what, 2010, 2011? When was that? You know, very like quiet movie. That is not a blockbuster, that new Winnie the Pooh they did. But that's not the vibe of Winnie the Pooh either, which makes sense.

That's where the ride landed. It's gentle. It's aiming for gentle. But I think they did a really good job with that movie, making it feel like the shorts and making the book a big part of it. and because that is like he bounces on the words and the narrator it's meta we go outside and he uses the words to climb to things or the words get all bunched up i love that stuff now uh my counter to you mike is gonna be i don't think they have enough fun with that stuff oh i think that i i look at the hong kong shanghai magic kingdom and there are story books but he's not interacting it's just

open books and we're not having fun with that characters in this world can like hang off of a queue or go bouncing across a paragraph if that stuff stuff's happening, now I like the book stuff. I know that they do the book interaction in Tokyo. Yes. And that's one of the many things that makes Tokyo a superior experience. Yes, there for sure is that in Tokyo. I think I'm more so saying that I understand thematically why it makes sense to me more that Pooh is in Fantasyland. Even though it doesn't...

Because it's a storybook. It's a story book it's a story book and all of these are with books like all the fairy tales do and it's kind of a dumb it's a dumb thing to be like they all start with books so they all go in the same place which is what i'm saying but that is kind of how i justify it to myself but i feel like it's different types of books i think this is a you know this is a book in a kid's nursery in this idyllic bedroom as opposed to Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, where these are the Bible. These are like these ornate works. It feels too like Victorian medieval. I can't square poo in medieval.

That's what's weird to me. And you think Toad fits better in that, you think? Yeah, I think so. Because it's like Spires and English and countryside. And I guess I'm... I don't know. I think because it's like structures, buildings, halls. That makes sense next to a castle as opposed to Winnie the Pooh lives in like a tree stump.

That doesn't make sense for a castle. They kind of... 2010 in Disney World, they added an interactive queue where you can go in little houses and you play in gardens. And I think that Florida queue, there are giant pages, but you just kind of walk by them. I don't like this. You don't really play with it really play with i mean maybe play with it and by the way if this wasn't if this wasn't said part of why i was doing that big argument was i i don't think i clocked this before that the critter country one is the only one that doesn't have the book and i think it's good i think it's good that they didn't do book here and they just kept it kept theept, yeah. Forest, leaves, that vibe.

Here's what I think would actually be the ultimate, is if it was some of more of the theming from the Disneyland version, but placed in Fantasyland, not by the castle stuff. More like Little Mermaid-wise. Oh, sure. Yes. Little Mermaid's in- Alice in Wonderland. Yeah.

Yes. Little Mermaid is Fantasyland in Florida, but it is not connected to the castle in the way that those rides are. I feel like they're almost doors you're entering in the castle in a way. Yeah. In some ways, I thought of it like that when I was a kid in Disneyland as well. Oh, sure. Yeah.

Little rooms in the castle. You're kind of going in the rooms in the castle. So that makes sense that Pooh shouldn't have anything to do with the castle. Yeah. So that's right. All right. We're saying the same thing. We're anything to do with a castle. Yeah. So that's right. All right. We're saying the same thing. We're coming to an agreement.

Right. But yeah, it's interesting. Because yeah, Critter Country, I'm like, Pooh's not a critter. I know he's a stuffed animal, but I don't know. Critter is from the South or something. And there's a little animal with a country accent and they're playing a fiddle or something. And he's English.

He's English. It's not the same vibe. Critter. Critter. You got to say the word. You got to be there. You got to say the word critter like this or whatever. And poo is not, that's not poo.

We need a dang poo. Yeah. Now, if they wanted to do that ride where they just had like a Slim Pickens style voice, like do the poo story or something and sure all the characters had southern accents yeah then good okay let's fucking go let's do that because that sounds funny that would tie it all that sounds good yeah but yeah so i i am like a bear i get it they were bears there before but the country bears are critters they're critters on that stage do we

got somewhere better in disneyland to put this space wise no i guess fantasy but fantasy land somewhere it's got maybe if if if if you could carve out space somehow in like parade route autopia side of fantasy land if autopia fantasy land side goes away yeah you're like fantasy land but somewhere else that's kind of your ideal spot is that not kind of what it is in japan yeah it is not connected fantasy land adjacent you right it's sort of i'm trying to think maybe i'm getting the geography wrong in my memory but it feels like it's where the storybook boats are in disneyland almost sure kind of like that something like that would work too not that i'm trying to evict those no no but yeah that feels more right because you could build up a little like hilly sort of facade totally if they decided to get rid of the

theater the former videopolis that could be oh yeah that would be perfect up in the hills yeah yeah yeah so it's not that fantasyland doesn't work it's the we agree that castle is i think castle is strange yes well and the ideal is that something like that happens and that it doesn't evict country bears but it happened it happened yeah i think it was probably the right move for them ultimately i think so i'm what i almost it feels like the poo bear ride is never long like that long of a wait it feels like it's not that popular and i don't know if that's true or not i i was thinking how i think this is a ride that you could use as i don't know if this is the right term but uh canary in the coal mine

potentially yeah because if you're if you are not that this happens anymore because you have to book many days in advance but in the old pop down days uh where you're like do i but do i feel like popping down today how are those wait times that could be a right that's a wait time that you look at and you go that's pretty big maybe i don't bother if who's making the trip do you guys have those do you have uh because my big one uh is uh monsters inc if i saw monsters inc at like 45 to an hour then all right i'm not i'm not going anywhere i think that's different now i think that could be on a normal day it's 45 or an hour i think it's sort of how they load now yeah i don't know i feel like that's changed and that's maybe just that's not right i don't know do we have the do you guys know what i'm

talking about like or is there no number that will make you not go to Disney? Well, certainly. I think I'd go the other way and I'd look at what the e-tickets are at. Oh. Like if they are like unreasonable. That's what I think I'd do too. But I think what you're doing actually maybe makes more sense. It indicates like if it's stressful over in Monsters, Inc., then it's going to be really stressful over in Big Thunder or whatever.

It is funny that we all have these sort of general ideas that still, I think, kind of make sense as far as what a wait time should be. Because, like, the last time I was there with my family, I'm looking at the, or I think with Lindsay and I, actually, were just alone the last time we went for a couple hours. And we were looking, and it was like, Guardians was 90 minutes. And I was like like something is wrong this isn't it's never not it's always an hour guardians is always an hour 45 minutes or an hour oh really unless it's like end of the day or start of the day and and i kept checking and kept checking and we had i we did do genie plus and i was trying to find a genie plus didn't work and i was like something's wrong and then sure enough later i learned that one of the um elevator shafts is shut down now or they had to fix it or whatever and i'm like of course it's never 90

minutes something's wrong and i have it in my head diagnosed a problem and i have because i just know the wait time for guardians and it's still that way wow so i yeah i think i'm more like i'll take a look at space mountain space mountain is, Space Mountain sometimes can be 90 minutes during the day, I feel like, or longer. And if it's like, oh, Space Mountain's 35 minutes or 40 minutes or whatever, 45 minutes, you're like, that's not so bad. Sure. Because that one's always a pretty long wait. But yeah, poo is an hour. Forget it.

We're in a lot of trouble. Yeah. Because I think poo being around half hour is probably more than it should be. Yeah. And I wouldn't wait half hour no no 15 maybe i did kind of a long uh the maybe in the 25 minute range and it was a little hot and i didn't leave the best taste in my mouth however on this particular day this was my family meeting up at at disneyland with just accidentally there Like we got to do at least one ride together with friend of the show, bug main buzz buzz and mama bug.

Wow. Mama bug. I don't know how you say it. I was going to say biz biz. Biz biz. Biz biz, dear. It was a delight to hang with all the whole family.

All that. That's a group of five. That's exactly what fits in in the the honey pot or no in the i was in the beehive rather so it was perfect that that's a that's a very fond memory yeah yeah this is a good um corner of the part i mean obviously now it connects to galaxy's edge it's not a dead end anymore but it's sort of there it's sort of off to the side and like i'm sure this will change when tiana opens out here because that'll be packed for the foreseeable future um but like yeah hungry bear has a lot of seating it's it's the food's okay, it's, the food's okay. Sometimes it's better than others.

And there's a ride without too long a wake and some shops, a candy store. You can wander through. You can get the candy. Just waxing idyllic about Critter Country. Do you find longing for the candy store? You find Critter Country just to be like basically a pleasant place to be. Yeah, it is pleasant well because new orleans square really gets out of hand sometimes with the crowd yes yeah that

gets that gets really nuts yeah um difficulty you have though with critter country is that dead-end nature and that i remember in like early uh kid visits like, okay, I think of all the things in this park, I think he would dig poo. I think poo could be good. But it's way out of the way. It's not on the way to anything. It is a gamble. If a day where it's getting hot and it's getting like, that's going all the way into a corner

and all the way back and you're nowhere near Main Street and the Hub. It ended up being worth it. We've had positive experiences on that. The meet and greets are there. You can go buy it on the train. Now, that's one, like, oh, the train will be even better when Tiana's opens back up. Because I think right now it's just pitch black

when you go through. Oh, you get to see the finale again. You get to see the finale. finale that will be nice yeah i'm looking forward to that toontown though is a similar way where it's like toontown it's almost like you're you're doing a voyage if you have a kid you're doing a voyage to the moon and you're like okay it's going to take a long time to get back to toontown whatever we do in toontown then we got to get back out if this goes wrong yeah so it's like there's not an easy escape in Toontown

there's not an easy escape in Critter Country yeah and depending on if there's parades what's going on it's like there is a feeling of like

well here goes nothing when we go we're going to Toontown yeah Toontown much worse though cause you coming back in a parade route

it's a lot of garish colors terrible food well that's a whole yes that's another discovery but yes you're right one great ride one pretty good ride back there but uh yeah it's i think it's more of a gamble than critter country yes i think so and it's a little more yeah it's a little more unpleasant a little more loud a little more aggressive um it's an interest these are different ways that we are viewing the parks that i don't think we ever thought about like making the trek if we're gonna make the journey over to it's like getting

stranded on an island overnight or something or like having to do a layover like are we really are we gonna really want to be laid over in toontown yes but with you know with kids in play yes it's just a different i mean in a similar way you would be like toontown is like ah toontown yes but you know with kids in play yes it's just a different i mean in a similar way you would be like toontown is like ah toontown so far away that's so loud but now with a kid you're like oh and especially now yeah if we get stranded there the meltdown happens in toontown we're in trouble yeah yeah so it's like we got a long way to go we stick yeah stick closer um yeah i i apparently like people are saying that if they do do disneyland forward where they build up like next to the hotel disneyland hotel oh

right that there would be like that dead end in critter country would not be a dead end any longer that would be the place that's what i've heard people say how would you have to demolish would it go through like i have to look at the stores i've thought about the listener if you don't know what we're talking about that they approved all of this land over across disneyland drive that is going to start getting converted into theme park land but what we don't know yet is if it's a full third gate over there or if it's expansions of disneyland and californ California Adventure connected by weird bridges. This all is going to make it...

I've always thought of Disneyland as kind of this nice, clean little circle, and now it's going to be very strange. There's this extra appendage. Disneyland's going to look like it's got an extra vestigial tail. Yes. Both parks will have little tails if it's just that we're like expanding the current parks yeah so like splash mountains here and the parking lot stuff is all here so you

would have to go out you would have to go out i think you don't would uh wouldn't you would you have to blow up the stores the poo stores or would it be like i don't know because that's kind of like a a backstage exit entrance enough room um on the other side i forget whether it's the other side of new orleans square or the other side of critter country there is precedent that that was the area where walt would have company picnics early on okay like we would entertain large groups those were the kind of beer gardens. Is there... Well, what's there now?

I think the downtown Disney parking lot. Oh. So, yeah. So, there's just... So, that's Pooh Corner. That's the gift shop. And then the road is here, Disneyland Drive. So, you could probably just have, like, a tunnel or a bridge or something.

It can't be a tunnel, can it? I don't know. Can they blow up a tunnel under the road? Maybe. time but it can't be a tunnel can it and they blow up a tunnel under the road maybe i am confused because i saw someone stayed in that new tower at the disneyland hotel and there are rooms at that tower that exit out onto a walkway that looks onto just a road and a park behind it. So I'm like, wait, how would they wrap Disneyland forward? There's no room. There's just a public road here.

You mean behind it? Like, what do you... Behind the Vacation Club Tower. Oh. I don't know. I think the hotel is like a dead end. Yeah. Okay.

Like the hotel, because the hotel's not going anywhere. Right, the hotel. So just be north of hotel is disneyland south is california event i think that's why it can't be like a clean third gate right unless they switch that to the other parking lot yeah or they build a land that goes up above the hotel and those towers are about 20 stories or so oh yeah so but if they could build a floating land that casts shadow like mr burns's sun machine on to everything at the hotel yeah maybe that works do we have go up 20 20 stories do we have a preference third gate or expanding out on the sides of the hotel like that

it seems weird but i think my preference is always third gate if it's the parking lot if it's the current uh toy story parking lot i guess my preference is that and new gate just because there's more of an opportunity i feel like for interesting stuff but yeah that's sounding i thought that was like more of a disney springs that's what there's that's what the talk is that's what the plans are but that was a while ago too they're zoning it all to be something like it could be anything i just want to know what the new because like to get a new park name under the current name structure right right yeah you know i'm just looking my chops thinking about how much punctuation is going to be in that maybe disney wish world colon slash hyphen uh uh okay what what else about these ride moments in it anything anything that we like i like heffalumps and woozles in general i like i think it's very clever

like sure it's all flats but i think they're clever with the flats. I like that there are those silhouettes that they've cut the shapes of the Heffalumps and Woozles, and then behind it, the pattern rotates and changes, so it looks like they're changing stripes and colors. I think that is a very clever... I think we're doing some fun house, cheap but effective little tricks in there well there's a whole different vibe i think to the disneyland version versus disney world version and that

way you're talking about fun like a fun house there's like a day glow neon thing going on a little bit i mean as far as let me see here like like Heffalumps and Woozles, this is from 2022. They didn't, unless they changed it in the last two years at Disney World, but I don't believe that's the case. But there is very much more of like a bright kind of neon happen. Like this is Heffalumps and Woozle in Florida. Okay. Yeah. So more like the Pleasure Island sequence in Pinocchio or something.

And then the Disneyland one is is this this is the color scheme which is a lot more neon right a lot more like yeah black light poster yeah style is it the whole ride kind of like that yeah wait no god i know i'm confused about which is which i feel like i was it always that way here or that's a good question are the shanghai ones it's these are the micro differences between these are very hard to parse i know that owl's house is not in disneyland but it's in disney world well and it's got the picture on the wall of toad giving al the deed to toad hall great yes which is nice we like that yes yeah uh i think i like the more uh weird like at disneyland if you look up and over your shoulder you can see max melvin and buff mounted on the wall around the

heffalum sequence yeah uh uh that is weirder that does seem like something you'd see in a nightmare uh just a bunch of non-moving animal heads yeah they're dead they are finally dead yeah they were reanimated for the show but they ain't singing no more uh also in disneyland apparently the mechanism of poo is in a hot air balloon at some point. Oh, right. The repurpose mechanism that Teddy Barra used to Wow. That's cool. Yes. Use to get up and down.

Well, that's smart. Yeah. You have to applaud the Imagineers for reuse. Yes. I guess not the most exciting thing to applaud them for. And that is something

you really can make someone zone out with when you explain why you're on the ride. Yeah. That is just, that fact couldn't excite me more and be more nothing to an average person. This is really so cool. This is the mechanism from the country bear show that used to be here. Swinging Teddy Bar used to be this. She would come down from the ceiling and she started saying,

and then Henry would kind of want to go up there and he was horny for her. But like, they're still using it. Like, no way. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Then you have the question, what are country bears?

Right, right. What's Teddy Barra? Right. Why are the bears horny? Right. Why did you whisper all that? Why did you whisper so long? You said it so fast too i

couldn't even keep track of what you were saying you were so excited another language this is a first date and it is ruined you were losing them when you were like there's a buffalo and a moose head like and if you're losing with that you sealed the deal uh when you start talking about reusing sealed the deal in a bad way. Yeah, sealed the deal in losing them. I see. Yeah, yeah. Got it.

You sealed the deal of the breakup. Of checking out. Yeah. Yes. This is the final straw. You sealed the deal of the let's not do this again via text. Yeah. I know this is first date, but I feel the need to tell you I'm taking the kids to my mother's some reason.

I don't think that Disney World, we were talking about right before we started recording and Jason said the Disney World version is like better. You said it was more elaborate. It just looked in video. I was like, this one looks more built up. And I think there's elements of it like. They might have had more room or a larger budget. in video i was like this one looks and i think there's there's elements of it like when it might have had more room or a larger budget i think that i think there were more there's more room and like when you when you go in or when you first kind of enter the the ride there is like

i don't know kind of like these three-dimensional like uh i don't know what you call them it's like part of like a shed or oh owls yeah yeah's House. Yeah. Owl's House. Yeah. Owl's House, like, giant pieces seem to shift and shake around you. Right. Versus Disneyland version where you just have these flats of, like, a barn door with some leaves on them. Yes. And that's like... Well, we're not comparing the same sequence here.

No, I know. I know. Actually, I like when you go past the barn doors. Well, I'm about... That's just an introductory sequence, and I think that's something you might see in any... That's not too different than Alice in Wonderland. I think that's an unfair comparison. However, I understand that there are more complex aesthetics and craft going on.

Right, and I'm just trying to compare a version of going through something. That being said, I still think I like Disneyland better. I like the color scheme better, even though it's not quite the color scheme of the cartoon. Sure. But it is a much more fun-looking color scheme. They play up the blustery day. I think blustery day is nice. It's just all nice.

It's a weird ride to be mad at. I don't know if anybody now is mad at it. Somebody probably remembers any of the scandals from years ago. Look at this. Tigger here, and this is Disneyland. Tigger in Disney World. Oh, so they do more ultraviolet light

stuff. Yes. Better lit. Yeah. I will say, in the Shanghai, the newer versions they've built, I think the rain effects look really nice yeah I don't maybe they've plus them up here in ways I don't realize

but like all of the projected stuff seems pretty sharp otherwise nothing there's nothing that insane going on in the other ones Hong Kong though deeply popular usually

runs out of fast passes and wait times over a hundred and twenty minutes wow how about that? We're saying I wouldn't do more than 30. I know. They will gladly do 120 minutes.

Not gladly. They will forcibly do 120 minutes in Hong Kong. That's very interesting. The last button, Florida, they're trying to start the party, and they're like, where's Poo? And he's in a big honeycomb. He goes, start the party without me. Like really quick as he's like chowing down on honey yeah start the party without start the party without me he's got a mouthful of honey he's got a mouthful of honey and he's just having

the time of his life like that's good a little less abrupt kind of a good joke you mentioned shanghai shanghai almost got into there there was i don't know how much concern on disney's end there was worry they might have to change it in the late uh 2017 2018 there was a bit of an issue uh the in china people were making memes of Xi Jinping, the president, and comparing him to Winnie the Pooh. Right. Especially after this picture of Xi Jinping and Obama walking looks very much like Pooh and Tigger.

I mean, kind of. One's taller than the other tall i uh i can think of two people here who might look like poo and tigger i i don't disagree with that but i think people just were like tweeting a lot of pictures of winnie the pooh and they're like we're gonna make the president mad if we yeah they're gonna have winnie the pooh here they were banning it on uh uh they're very they're you know heavily fired while internet um heavily censored internet and so there was like is disney gonna have to redo this i think it probably would have made him look very stupid if disneyland park was we have to retheme the Winnie the Pooh ride.

The party and the president don't like this. Yeah. That would have made them look worse. Well, I think they should have just kissed up all the way and just made it an animatronic of the president. Yeah, put him in the ride. Just make it his.

He's caught in a tree trunk. He's caught in a honeycomb. Xi Jinping has a rumbly tumbly. Uh-huh. Problem solved. Yeah, there's some cool stuff in that version of the ride. And, like, it's all just, like, a little different from each other, which I like. I appreciate it.

It's not quite the, like, neon of the Disneyland, but it does kind of have its own lighting, its own kind of color scheme. Pooh floating off seems like a really good effect in Shanghai. They seem to do that well, but I like this beat in all of them. I like that you follow a projection for a little bit in the Disneyland one, and it reminds me of following the croquet ball in Alice in Wonderland. I think the whole thing reminds me of Alice in Wonderland, which I like. I like that it's a similar length of vehicle.

It's in an odd place. It feels like kind of outside of the main four Fantasyland attractions. That might be a lot of why I like the one here. It feels like of a piece of Alice lot of why i like the one here it feels like of a piece of alice in wonderland like yeah the oddballs you know but still good dark rides that have like little little clever effects and also just isn't just like the next time you're trying to go to sleep just like picture yourself being winnie the pooh yeah i can't imagine a more

relaxing way to just imagine yourself becoming opaque and floating off into the air in just a shirt, pants. Yes. He's so, that is the deepest sleep. I am, boy, would I love to get that Winnie the Pooh sleep. I know. I want that sleep. Yeah. Yeah.

The medication has to be involved to get that kind of sleep. Yeah. Like they have to put me, induce a coma to get me to actually relax and fully like have the healing effects of sleep happen to my body it's just like i yeah i cannot sleep i i stopped drinking caffeine to try to do that i'm like you know what that's got to be what it is i'm going to stop drinking caffeine and the sleep is going to get so good and it's going to be so restful that didn didn't change at all. No. What the hell?

This was supposed to fix all my problems. It fixed none of them. What time did you used to stop caffeine? Would you have the afternoon caffeine? I would try to stop it by one, but once in a while I'd go up to three or four. Okay. But no, it almost didn't change anything. Yeah.

I was expecting some crazy cool thing that was going to happen, and I was going to be like a different person. No, same person. Same shit. Same stuff happened to me. I have an Ambien problem. Yes. Ben, NyQuil doesn't work so well anymore.

I have to do the harder stuff. I have to do the things that really put you on your ass. I'll sleep for 24 hours straight. It's a little bit creepy. It got to the point where Unison was keeping me up. Where are you even getting these pills, they say? I really can't. You really do have a, like, it's just like an inward whistly thing to it.

I don't know how you're doing it. Yeah, I don't know. I would annoy Lindsay with it like 10 years ago when I would just say, oh, piglet. I think it was like most of my impressions, it just turns cloying after a while and like weird and creepy. So I think he was like, I think he might have been strung out when I was doing it 10 years ago. Excuse me. It's really hurting my voice for a gentle impression for some reason oh bother oh my wait just say i'm just gonna feed him to you just say my throat's torn to shit my throat is torn to shit i'll get me uh get me a lozenge

i do think i used to be like oh this is what i used to do i used to be like piglet i'm sick piglet piglet i need help i need help piglet please and it's like stop doing that that's annoying and creepy and everything no you don't understand something's wrong with me piglet i have a tear in my anus poo i don't that doesn't are you sure about that? We all have tears Poo we're made of stuff and fluff Oh you don't understand The stress has ripped me open again I need to fix It's not the same thing As if it were to happen

To the humans I need you to fix me I need you to fix me Get the string Get the needle and thread Out of the cupboard I'm gonna head to the creek For a little bit

I'm gonna go for a round Of poo sticks Why don't you take a breather The door's locked You'll be here with me tonight fixing me there's not enough air for two people in the stump poo i hope christopher robin taught you how to sew poo and piglet are fighting again we're not fighting we're just having a disagreement yelling about his anus that is is what it was. It was

a bit where Pooh was really, like something was wrong with him, and I would just do that for a while. And Lindsay didn't like it. I think you need more help than a little pig can give you, Pooh. I don't think so. I think you have everything I need. I need a blood

transplant. A stuffing transplant, please. That requires a doctor. You can't just do that. I'm a doctor now. Your body might reject mine. I'm a doctor. I'll put on my stethoscope.

No offense, Pooh, and this is a bad time to tell you this. You're not smart. Pooh and Piglet haven't been the same since they got into a challenger situation with kangaroo i want to make love to you and kangaroo this is all in blood and honey we're doing blood and honey scenes i think yeah yeah we're just doing it this no this this will this will just occur we just we said superior churros scene at the start of this episode we see anybody can make a poo movie and we just made our little poo movie.

We did it. Yeah. And it's legal, finally. Sleeping pills have driven poo insane to where he maybe wants to eat piglet. And Eeyore is just keeping far away from the whole thing. I'm kind of acting like a Greek chorus. These two, right? Again. We should wind it down i i uh anything else we want to shout out about these or like do you want to i mean maybe this is poo's honey hunt

episode at some point down the road but like is that like in terms of, like, basic jealousies. I mean... Oh, oh. Now, okay, here's my defense versus Pooh's Honey Hunt, is that sometimes you have a space where a ride could go, but it's not the massive warehouse that is needed to build big, state-of-the-art trackless attractions. Sometimes there are weird little plots of land that have the same amount of acreage as like a Burbank dentist's office would. And would you rather have a ride in there or not? Now, that said, why could they not do a, you know, a little ride that's on a regular kind of track that has some of the more innovative animatronics that Pooh's Honey Hunt has?

I mean, I'd love the whole thing i want i want a trackless honeypot that sounds great but um you know the elevated stuff they do is really cool there's no i mean like there's no reason to not have that but uh yeah advanced electronics animatronics besides money yeah and i'm yes this we just used to be a theater on this land so it was not a dark ride or anything so i'm sure yeah there's not a ton of land here but yes there were elements that were are much more expensive in tokyo that they didn't go with because it's cheaper and we know blah blah we've complained many times before but boy is like pooh's honey hunt almost like an e-ticket to

me after going on it yeah and it's just that is a 45 minute wait that i'll do that i would do i think right fairly regularly 30 45 there is a difference yes now they might have something pretty right about the trackless ride system and this is the first disney one correct i believe so yeah uh that you know uh of your myriad of rise of the resistance complaints yeah the one that i could get the closest to is it i don't know if i agree with your phrasing about it not fucking me up i don't think i want the vehicle to fuck me up but sometimes these trackless vehicles are a little bit lacking in thrill because they can't like really turn you and pivot you and shake you up the way that a regular track can right so a trackless vehicle being gentle makes a lot of sense and beauty and the beast seems very successful we haven't gotten to go on it uh and and this does too maybe trackless

vehicles more often should be aiming for gentle it might be what they're the best at i do agree with that and like mickey and minnie they work pretty well but like the my my favorite scene or one of my favorite scenes is the dancing section and it is because the vehicle does kind of a different thing because you're taking dance lessons with daisy and it's kind of jolting you back and forth in a kind of an aggressive manner yeah you slide around you slide around and you're like that there's like a variation on what you're feeling on a ride i is depending on the ride important and poo there's a bouncy section of the poos honey hunt that i'm actually not even sure

if the whole floor is but i'm not sure what's happening it just feels like you're all doesn't it i don't know i don't know maybe that's something to investigate when we do the full poo thing but like that's the most jealous i am of that it's because you go in this little room there's like screens of tigger and then it's the tigger song and you're bouncing up and down in the vehicle and you know you're already like if that was your first time going on a trackless ride vehicle which at the time it was for us but like then you go this thing go up and down and that felt like just such a unique way to to use that ride system too and i again i don't know if the whole maybe the whole floor is bouncing i'm not sure because like

why wouldn't you use that bouncing thing how does the entire there's no way the entire floor is bouncing it seems silly i agree propel the entire or is it an illusion up isn't an illusion it has to be in the vehicle let's think why have none of the other trackless rides use something because there wasn't a character that bounced that called for it i don't know but you could get shot and bounce me a picture how is the entire floor moving? There's no way. That seems silly. You're right. Yes. It's too heavy. Every trackless ride vehicle is very heavy, and there's people on it.

It probably wouldn't be reliable either. Mm-hmm. That everyone bounces. Maybe you go right on a big trampoline, and there's a couple people under just pushing, or there's a big robot arm. No, I mean, I think- No, I like the people pitch. I think they have full-time employees.

I guess it has to be in the vehicle, but it's- I just think they would have used another- used that somewhere else. See, but once you introduce a trampoline, you up the likelihood of hearing the phrase, oh no, Tommy fell off and broke his arm. That's just automatically introduced. What is that from?

Just kids fucking themselves up in backyard trampolines. that's just automatically introduced what is that from i just you're just saying oh in general i see backyard trampoline yeah yeah just produce uh the injuries you're right broken arms yeah so but that room i think is the one i'm most jealous of um yeah and in addition to just in addition to just fancier looking robots yeah and and and yes like a perfect use of that ride system. The gentleness, yeah. Because yeah, I think now I'm a little bit sick of that ride system in some ways where I'm like, yeah, Mickey and Minnie

could have maybe been different if it was a different ride system. I really like Mickey, by the way. I'm not putting that ride down. I think that's a very successful trackless ride vehicle. Yeah, I think Mickey and Minnie might be the best one at the big american parks that feels organically i think any of them use this thing that they can go into

different paths uh uh you know and i have the uh bizarre leftist opinion that rise of the resistance is an excellent ride so i will stick to that and say that also is a very well bernie bro biden bro lieutenant beck bro they should build a trackless ride vehicle that has like an arm like a kook arm on the part on the ground and then that could like whip you around aggressively yeah but you can still have that smoothness i mean this is not out of the question well you know what'd be cool is if a trackless ride vehicle went inside kind of a bigger shell that drops you and it becomes a drop ride as well and then you leave in a different way oh that is what happens in this ride that is a good ride yeah Another one where you End up outside It's just You could have

Counterpoint A couple letter gray I didn't get to see my friends Friends I didn't get to see my friends There could have been friends And you could get fucked up Those are two things

You want to get fucked up With your friends And you don't get fucked up With your friends When you go on Rise of the Resistance So that's just a fact You can't

You can't deny that I want to dislocate My shoulder While Han Solo Watches I want to dislocate my shoulder while Han Solo watches. I want him to see me in pain. Han, I hurt myself. I don't care. That's exactly what I'd want you to say, you my friend. This ride is great.

Luke, the giant sliding cannons grievously injured me. Yeah. And Luke's just like, ha ha. He's giving you one of the like yeah good work young jedi you know so so yeah i think that those that's just a plus that's a plus up they can do it well they can't fuck you up but they can they can add your friends one of those classic luke skywalker chill lines chill cool lines is always saying well if it's post return of the jedi when he's kind of that got that calm sort of jedi thing going before he goes to act two and does betrays everyone for 20 years uh

then he would have that calm he would be able to give you a chill line yeah yeah yeah so give you a chill lime chill lime that's nice that's i mean i can't argue with what of course look i like the ride but what i like to drink a nice refreshing cocktail with Luke Skywalker? Here's a Pooh Bear plus up. I would love that 90s Pooh Bear song somewhere, somewhere. I know it doesn't fit the vibe of a lot of these things, but I wish that, even throw me a bone and put that in Toontown now, because they're doing kind of music or music or jazzy versions of Disney afternoon songs.

And there's like a jazzy version of Eye to eye playing in toontown which i like and there's a rescue like a jazzy rescue rangers a little we need a little more poo bear they have turned their back on this song this is a fantastic song i really agree yeah uh uh i don't know anyone i don't know who was involved in it uh i don't know who put it together but boy boy, is it great. And like, I just, yeah, when you think about like towards the end, like Pooh Bear, I gotta be there. Oh man, I like it. As with all of these songs,

they influence my music taste in a big way. I am chasing pop songs that feel like the new adventures of Winnie the Pooh. It feels in the family of those, the Rescue Rangers and the DuckTales. Like it feels and the family of those the the rescue rangers and the duct tape like it feels and it's under acknowledged yeah it does yeah you're right it doesn't show up anywhere right i'm glad we took this time to say how great that song is yeah completely under acknowledged yeah uh uh yeah um you know uh play i would say play it at

the beginning and end of the day at the park at large yeah uh many times throughout just on the uh uh you know uh if main street electrical parade comes back ditch the song play that song instead use it as the fireworks backdrop use it as the score to rise the resistance there we fixed it and you like the ride now oh my god that would be awesome star wars movie star wars yeah looking for maps always looking for mcguffin star wars and silly old lieutenant beck maybe we do we deep dive on that song That's a second gate somewhere along the line.

The Pooh Bear song from the 90s cartoon. Yeah. Who did this for us? Or just the themes in general, I bet. That is a good episode idea. Oh, just go through the themes. Yeah. You're right.

And try to determine a best one officially. I have an opinion already, but it could be swayed. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Well, yeah. Hey, that's a good one let's do that i love that i'm glad we talked about that but for now you survived podcast the ride uh and i think i think we

i think we kept things positive about this attraction yeah uh really quick let me say your rocket launcher thing mike mike's been i forget if that's been on main feed ever that you yeah you take out a rocket launcher you pick pick two rides. Which one do you? You've got no time to decide. If it was between this and Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear's gone. I think that's more flat, less charming. Yeah, I would buzz you out. Jason, what do you think?

Between those two? Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's a tough one. I don't know. Three might be one it might be buzz even though it's enough buzz is better than florida's buzz yeah i guess i guess i say buzz too i guess because there's other toy story to toy representation in the park but I do I rarely go on Buzz anymore also probably less so than Pooh so yeah I guess Buzz

even though I don't I'm not like happy about it great I'm not gonna be gleeful when the rocket hits it or whatever but at least Zurg is dead

that villainous Zurg finally got what was coming to him hey but Fez for us check out for three bonus episodes every month check out podcast the ride the second gate or get one more bonus episode on our vip tier club three you'll find all of that at patreon.com slash podcast the ride you want to hear a an even better winnie the

pooh related song though oh yeah please mike i wonder if this is something you know already um i wonder do you know all right i did the show you know, all right, I did the show, the intro, in kind of a Winnie the Pooh narrator way. The Winnie the Pooh narrator is Sebastian Cabot, who played Mr. French on Family Affair, correct? Which came up on a second gate. Of course, yeah. As an idea of the kind of boring.

Boring stuff Jason and I were talking about, yeah. Here's what a boring tangent would be about, affair anyway he was kind of a pre-mr belvedere right yes stuffy english guy great narrator for winnie the pooh do you know about his album i don't know oh boy i'm glad i can uh holy shit never in a million years could you guess what the sebastian cabot album is so all you need to know is that he's, it's the narrator of Deep in the Hundred Acre Way. That's all you need to know. And he decided to get with the times, address what the kids are thinking about and liking.

Good. And he did an album called Sebastian Cabot Actor, Bob Dylan Poet. Really? It is a front to back, full spoken word, Bob Dylan covers album. Wow. And I think this would be good exit music.

Here now, through the same voice that gives you Winnie the Pooh, is the song Like a Rolling Stone. No way. Once upon a time, you dressed so fine. You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you? People call, say, beware, doll, you're bound to fall. You thought they were all kidding you. You used to laugh

about everybody that was hanging out. Now, you don't talk so loud. Now, you don't seem so proud about having to be scrounging for your next meal. How does it feel? How does it feel to be without a home?

Like a complete unknown. Like a rolling stone. Oh, you've gone to the finest school, all right, Miss Lonely. But you know you only used to get juiced in it. Full album of that. Wow. That's every track is that. This little whimsical arrangement of the Bob Dylan song.

Yeah, yeah, it chimes a little like. And this is pre-Rocketman. It's very Rocketman-ish. Yeah, as much as Dylan inspired many after him, Sebastian Cabot certainly inspired William Shatner. In that story of the hurricane, the man the authorities came to blame.

How's it feel? I'm gonna listen to that. I'm gonna listen to that. And then roll. Make sure, alright, let's start when you really hit rolling. Like a rolling stone. Hey, Winnie the Pooh, how's it feel i don't know what did i do can you cut that together with a poo opening the clips of that with the winnie the pooh yeah

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