Podcast: The Ride - The PeopleMover

Episode Date: January 13, 2023

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FOREVER! DOG! Warning! You're about to embark on a grand circle tour of the podcast kingdom. You may encounter panoramic views of Tron characters no one can name, mice screeching like beasts from hell, and a company founder plotting to kill God. Breeze into 2023 with The People Mover on Podcast The Ride, a podcast about theme parks that some might find slow-moving or long or meandering,

but real fans know that's kind of the appeal. I'm Scott Gairdner, joined by Mike Carlson. What a good reset for the new year. What a good mission statement for the podcast is this something qualifier a good qualifier is this something we replaced because uh uh if in case everybody doesn't know we used to be a podcast that was uh hosted by three childless men in their 30s about the import not the case anymore obviously two of us have children so maybe what you've stumbled upon here Is sort of the new tagline

I'm gonna do that one Every time It was kind of a reference To today's topic But if you think it generally I think it does Is what I'm saying I mean I'm being funny

But also now that I Kind of think it's the Actually it's about the show The true fans Might have teared up When I said Yeah that's right That is how I feel

Jason Sheridan What do you think Saluted their podcast Right That's right He said it I'm getting Right. That's right. He said it. I'm getting that tattoo. That's it.

Right. Well, then that is a good sign if that's the- I think so. And in that case, we're talking about the perfect thing here today, the PeopleMover. It's our first main feed topic of 2023 that I guess shares a lot in common. Right. I mean, it's a great thing and i'm excited to be talking about it at the at the top of the year here because it is like it is at the

same time nothing and everything you know what i mean yes it's like that you know we love our rides with our robots and scenes and stuff happening and we're going to talk about a ride here that has none of that but we love it i assume i don't think there's a i don't think there's a people mover hater laying in wake here well it depends on how you describe like tiny baby show scenes and later versions that's true there are little things yeah no i don't mean to say that there's nothing i hope that what i said doesn't sound like a a. I'm just saying, like, it is a, like, comparatively to a lot of other things, it is gentle, it is low stakes, it is low thrills, but what a wonderful attraction it is. And I'm excited to talk about it for a little while.

A Sheridan family favorite. Well, a Carlson family favorite, too. I think everyone. But my brother, especially, because he didn't like roller coasters when he was younger. So my dad and I would ride Space Mountain, and my mom and brother would just, and later when he was older, just my brother, like, would ride the PeopleMover over and over again. Yeah, yeah. And if you hit it at the right time, when it used to be a walk-on, you could just flag the cast member, like, hey, can I stay?

Can I? One more round. Which worked in 2019, too. It was empty when I wrote it in 2019, and I did that. Can I stay? And they're like, yeah, sure. Did you ever do one of those, and they give you the cutoff signal? They do, like, oh, my manager's here, or like, oh, we're getting a little busy.

My manager's here. Mr. Stevens is here. Mr. Stevens is just behind me he's gonna be mad at me response i've got like uh not not right now sorry or like yeah no please stay on did you get to see the manager did the man look imposing did he look like somebody who would like lay the smack down like some imposing looking people and ridiculous chaos was it like the boss on deal or no deal and the like there's just a window with like darkness it's like um uh who was the bond was odd job the hat or the big guy hat jaws is the big guy yeah oh it was jaws okay it was like it was not like deal or no deal monster

imposing like wow it's some six five six six manager of the people mover boy if that boy if that guy's still there, if there's a listener who works the People Mover, it's possible. He just grabbed Jason by the shirt collar and picked him up off of the ride and then threw him away. That's right.

Ranked him off, threw him off Rocket Tower Plaza. When he goes up to the loading, it's less of a speed ramp and more a slow ramp. Yeah. Look, I've done the turn turner i've done it twice in florida of course i'd never done the disneyland version because it was not there the first time i went yeah uh and yeah we we would ride it uh especially at night because obviously everything's better at night when you're talking rides especially outdoor rides uh we would ride i feel

like maybe we did it three times once Which felt like Oh my god What a treat We're getting here Yeah Yeah Definitely more than once In a day Maybe recently I have I don't

I don't recall But for sure In the family trip Where you're planted there For a while Yes What a great thing And something you know

Like you can jump on While other people Are doing something Or And you know Everybody in the family Can do it um it's a i don't know it's a unifier it's a it's a it brings people together yeah yeah oh best

and one of the best like you can still do this even with the weight now uh you might have to factor in the longer weight that happens a lot but get on right before the fireworks catching the fireworks from the people mover oh can we all do the chef like that thing yeah like at once what a wonderful yeah like that's yeah that's great i did that last time i was there i believe i wrote alone and i was happy i didn't want anyone with me i wanted to be alone and watch the fireworks from the people mover alone i know i've been on there i know like when i was like 14 or so i went on it alone i it is a great it's a ride where you can get some some solitude yeah get some work done so you have some work done yeah you can bring a

laptop on there nobody i don't think sure uh uh well we're done with the episode we like it and we're good we like it so much can i you know what all right i was we're kind of right into the people mover but i did look we're at the top of the year here, too. Yeah. And the first topic of the year is a big thing, but I think equally important is the first non-topic tangent of the year. Oh, okay.

I'm going to slide something in real quick at the top here. It's not a Frank Marshall. It's not going to take up the whole thing, I don't think. I think only Frank Marshall raises all of our agitation that much operationally this is perfect because the florida one nowadays uh from what i've read uh i haven't experienced it myself maybe once or twice breaks down a lot oh yeah sure a lot of pauses yeah seemingly last time i went on it yeah we had a long pause in a hallway where there was nothing to do i was really open there to be a walk-off but i didn't realize how commonly it just stops for for a little while so let's we're but we're just gonna

it's gonna be a short delay it's not we're gonna say this will not be a walk-off but i've this something's been sitting with me for for a little bit and this is how i want to kick the year off is with a question that is a disney related question i think it's a pretty simple question it's a simple it's a question for you too um do you know mickey mouse's first words not sure not quickly i'm trying to think of this sounds for this does sound familiar um mickey mouse's first words now when you say first words do you mean the first words spoken in an animated short? Yeah, that's what it would have to be. Yeah, in terms of chronological Mickey Mouse material released into the world,

do you know the first? And look, and I don't mean sounds. He made sounds. Because when you think that, you think, oh, yeah, Steamboat Willie. No, no, no. He didn't talk in it. He whistles. We know that.

But it's one of those things. You think you know, but then you think about it and you don't know jason any any thoughts i knew there would be like some fine print on is it like in plain crazy is it like in another i mean it's it's not in steamboat and it's not it's not in one of the it's not in one of the primaries i don't think it's not one that i knew offhand um it's why i thought it'd be interesting to bring it up because we've we found a lot of great mickey mouse quotes over the years from i use the den to you asked for it to go soak your head fresh boy soak your head fresh but i think we if i i think it's been a good little mission of the podcast to uh find mickey's most notable quotes and what could

be more notable than the first one. This is something I found over the break and I'll tell you how I found it and I'll present it in context. So, by the way, this year, 2023, is I think Mickey's 95th birthday. So we're at an anniversary year.

He's as old as George Burns was when he died, I think. We're around there. Are we talking ronnie burns i think so i think the ronnie burns episode is yeah yeah yeah yeah episode about george burns son we just talked about ronnie burns more george burns in 2023 though for sure coming up this is our vow as much not enough burns content the first five years of the show very little as long as we get to sergeant pepper's only arts club band oh yeah uh then i won't complain um no but so you know we'll see what disney does for the 95th birthday of mickey but back in 1988 um they celebrated mickey's 60th birthday and they did this with a very odd special uh i don't know if

you've seen this particular special but there's a live tv broadcast that goes awry and director carl reiner is furious nothing's on camera too uh everything goes haywire and then mickey mouse gets lost and then it becomes about america's search for mickey mouse no i have not seen this special uh highly recommend it we should talk about it more then you then Then you traverse all these different shows. All the cast members of NBC shows try to find Mickey because they didn't have the ABC deal yet. So it's the Cheers gang and family ties with some Cousin Oliver type character I've never seen before. The latter day cast member. It's really odd but uh uh the main

wraparounds of it are from uh john ritter who's a news anchor in it and he gives you a little mickey mouse refresher and of course you get the you know here's his history and here's steamboat willie you get the clip that you know but then you get this and i'm gonna so you're gonna hear john ritter and then you're going to hear mickey mouse's first words then came the talkies millions waited breathlessly for mickey's first immortal words on is he saying hot dogs yes he's saying hot dogs wow mickey mouse's first words were hot dogs how did we not know this i don't know it's crazy sung i did not know that screeched in fact i here's what i think though i've seen that clip uh-huh but uh now i understand why i may not have retained what he was saying Because if it's not

If you don't know that It's his first words Right Who cares Right But now by this point And the full context here This is the short

The Carnival Kid Spelled with K's From 1929 It is the ninth Mickey Mouse short So you know We're making a ton of these now America's falling in love With this lovable mouse

When he finally gets to speak What is he going to say? Uh huh And he says So, you know, we're making a ton of these now. America's falling in love with this lovable mouse. When he finally gets to speak, what is he going to say? Uh-huh. And he says, A primal scream from a dirty carny. He was a carny, yes. This is Walt maybe illustratingrating this is an early iteration of him saying this is the kind this is the filth that ruins america and if i have my say i will

wipe this from the face of the earth yeah how early did walt's contempt for carnival people begin like but this is also what we've discussed we talked about it i think on the red uh red robin episode of on our patreon is that red robin is now sort of a generic type mascot whatever you don't think much about red robin but in the old days he was kind of like a stonery weirdo guy yeah if you haven't heard this episode we found the first picture of red robin and his eyes are beat red right he's high yeah he's and he looks like out of it his pupils are huge yeah that's why he was red is that his eyes were red because he was stoned right so i feel like again the history this again the history of a lot of mascot characters as they start out as like uh weasels weasels not shady shady weasels trustworthy roustabouts yeah i mean in a you know he's also just doing his job here

in a way but it's the entire moment and for the listeners he's those little sounds you heard in between i'll play it one more time i got it the the the barks that you, he's stabbing a bunch of wieners on a grill. And when he stabs them, they all form a mouth that barks a note. The Franks are also screaming, is what you're saying. Yes, they're barking. They're barking. Mickey's main hellish screams. And then he provokes five more screams through stabbing.

The hot dogs are alive. Yes. Yeah. stabbing the hot dogs are alive yes yeah so they are living hot dogs which makes it strange when then he goes to see his uh you know if not his lover yet then his dream lover yeah mini mouse who's presented in this as mini the shimmy dancer she is a carnival dancer and he offers her a hot dog and the process of doing this is that he has to coax a hot dog over and get it to be in a bun like a blanket and have we yes have we checked in uh the year this came out was that not standard practice for hot dogs were they is that just something maybe we

don't know about 80 years ago or 95 years ago excuse me the standards have shifted yeah it's possible that it was like a lobstog's like lobster yeah they were alive and you would have to coax you would get to go into our restaurant and choose your hot dog it was alive and then they take it in the back and cook it line them up stab them and make them sing whichever one hits the loudest note yeah this is the one for me all pre-geneva conventions so like a lot of this would be considered war crimes nowadays you know against biting into an animal and just ripping its mouth off yeah yeah wouldn't maybe wouldn't fly as much well speaking of that jay's if you

think this is violating certain protocols then what happens is the hot dog wriggles away when minnie tries to take a bite of it and then mickey has to chase the hot dog down and it's not just a matter of a tsk tsk he punishes this hot dog and he does it by pulling the hot dog's casing down like its pants revealing a little butt the hot dog has a little now i have not seen this and mickey spanks the hot dog's bare butt what jason and i are speechless i'm showing you a frame of this you can see why we had our little break i've been waiting i need to get this out of this has been burned into my head i have to like infect wow this image so now let me ask you came across

this because you were watching this old 60th special. Yeah, I was trying to watch an 80s special with, you know, nothing but nice graphics and pleasantry. And then I find this 1920s horror show. Mickey has pulled the hot dog's little pants down and is spanking its little hot dog butt. His pants, which are his body. Right. dog butt his pants which are his body right and just before that there's a reveal mini goes to get changed to pay for the hot dog and she pulls her leg down like her black leg is revealed to be stocking oh i've seen yeah you see the top of her leg and it has big old hairs sticking out of it

okay so mini's legs are hosiery and the hot dog casing is his pants and it has a under butt that is i'm looking at photos of this and it's really disturbing and he's so angry also he yeah yeah he's screaming at this not fuck with this guy he's screaming at them these things look like really tiny little sand worms like and this is look this is a main feed and i don't want to also get disgusting they look like uncircumcised penises as well these things are horrifying i'm not saying uncircumcised penises are i'm not saying those are horrifying i'm just saying like in a car context of a cartoon is something you're eating you don't expect to go to a carnival and see four uncircumcised penises lined up right and they're all like standing at attention getting screamed

at by a mouse who can oh here you can barely understand why he comes up to mini oh first of all he walks up to mini and then takes off the top of his skull like a hat and like tips his hat i like that yeah no was like make sure you say that's good that she did okay good yeah because um and then so he's friendly lay look mini the shimmy dancer i'm a nice guy and then immediately pivots to screaming at the hot dogs sit down it's not even it's not even mickey sit down sit down yeah it sounds like uh charlie chappell it sounds like what's the uh what's the charlie chappell movie i'm thinking of uh gold rush there's a scene there's a dubbed version of gold rush i'm sure i've said this before where the he's he did the voiceover later because it

was initially just a silent movie uh and then he's doing like get out get out get out get out said black lawson which was like the bad guy so it sounds very old-timey oh sort of movie or whatever you know what else is weird about this the voice is not walt disney he is not doing mickey's first words were not done by original voice walt disney he is voiced in this by carl stalling the the music man who the composer who the year after this defected to warner brothers oh wow and created the warner brothers signature sound and their music vocabulary that's such a huge part of Warner Brothers.

So Mickey's first words were, screeched by a man who Walt lost the talents of, presumably, but at the same time, he lost Ub Iwerks. So he's just letting talent fly out the door. Sleeping two hours a night, like amphetamined out the eyeballs while everyone's like we need someone to scream we we need the track we need the voiceover track okay someone

do it music man you do it okay he went and stabbed him like one of those hot dogs yeah do the voice stand up it's just i just come back to with all of these things how like he's america's favorite mouth the most famous well you can go to the the you know the like the the deepest cave in the world and people still know who mickey mouse is everybody loves and here's a clip one of their first interactions with him was that yeah this is this is the juncture where america people like this guy's great this guy this this guy who screams hot dogs like a hound from hell and then tortures a hot a spanks a hot dog like an unruly child more of this 100 more years of this character please that's so much weirder and more interesting than most cartoons in the last 30 years.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So things for children. There's plenty of nice stuff my kid watches. Sure. But none of it's going to have anything as inventive as pulling your hand off of your just, yeah, it's body horror. It is body horror.

Body horror for children these days. I saw, there's this accounts across a bunch of social media. There is a group or a person who's restoring a lot of the Fleischer cartoons. Oh. A lot of the Popeye and Betty Boop cartoons. And I watched a clip of one that they were live streaming. And it is so weird. Like she's in hell.

People are making her sing. Everything on screen is bouncing. the fleischer oh yeah everything was always bouncing all those like wobbling knees swaying back and forth and yeah it's so far removed from the betty boop on tin signs that like the the souvenir shop in like the kind of mall that used to be an old mill at the tourism stop. The Antiques Mall. Betty Boop's the queen of the Antiques Mall. We're doing Boop this year on our second case. This is great.

Keep making these. I disagreed with one yet. I'm sure it will. Boop is coming. I've got one that might drive everyone insane. Okay. Speed Ramp. Speed?

You mean? Speed Ramp. Speed Round? No, Speed Ramp. Speed ramp. Speed, you mean? Speed ramp. Speed round? No, speed ramp. Speed ramp. Because it became a marketing thing for Disney at some point. Take the speed ramp to Space Mountain. Okay.

And it's just the, you use it for the People Mover in Florida, too. It's the ramp escalator. That got you up to Space Mountain originally. That got you up to things. Yeah. And I'm wondering, I really can't think of these existing in places outside of the disney parks and i'm like there must be is that thing where i don't know but i it feels like there's an inkling my spider sense is tingling speed ramp speed ramp

okay so singular speed ramp yeah speed speed ramp speed i mean The other thing is the thing that I've been hiding from myself. Not hiding, but I've been restraining myself from watching you. Do you have some dark thoughts on this? And I found it, which is the Ford Magic Skyway. I've never watched the full ride

through, but there is an industrial video, I think, from Ford that covers it all. That captured the entire whole thing. One of the original, one of the World's Fair attractions where you sat in a car that overlaps with this. And we'll get to this. Here, we'll come around to the people over now.

I'll real quick declare, this is a year that we do a net singing career. Sorry. Silence. It's their time, Michael. In the year 2023, I think we're getting to a net. That's a big year. We just made a long list already. Annette Funicello's singing career is coming.

This is a thing that you keep bringing it up. You even use the phrase, I'm calling my shot Annette's singing career. You dressed it up with this kind of sports terminology. Well, I'm a sports guy. And we've had all of these things where now the audience can suggest topics. We do it on Clove 3. There's never been a swell. There's been a little swell for Annette.

I have seen Annette popped up. A little swell. A little swell. It has been a little swell. But that's because people don't know what's coming. That's what I think. I'm not against doing it. I just think like, sure, doing it would be great.

But then we end Mike's plight you're kevin mccarthy-esque well that's true you need to do 15 references of annette's singing career and then we'll do it that's true well we could you know we can go album by album episode for her album so wait we're we're now booking how many how many are we talking i actually got a good amount i mean like there was a hawaiianette which is a Hawaiian album. Listed these before. Italianette. Go ahead.

List them again. Then there was the ones from the movies specifically. Also, Annette in Disney context, I'm sure we can find a ton of interesting stuff, too. And you want to cover all the UNICEF things. Yeah. I think she was UNICEF. Or that might have been Shirley Temple Black. I'm sure they both did. I think that is correct. Well, Jason's calling it a shot now. Shirley Temple Black, UNICEF, or that might have been Shirley Temple Black. I'm sure they both did.

Well, Jason's calling a shot now. Shirley Temple Black, UNICEF episode. Not Shirley Temple. Shirley Temple Black era specifically. Right, when she was married. Post-marriage. Right. Okay, we'll keep calling shots.

As we go on this episode, we'll call more. Great, great. All right, yeah. Let's call them out when you can. Anyway, starting the year with hot dogs and but now to move to officially to the people mover aka the good year people mover aka the wedway people mover aka people mover through the world of tron aka people aka tomorrowland transit authority aka tomorrowland transit authority people mover and that is i don't even know if that's i still might be missing one there have been a lot of official, but also unofficial names of this attraction.

But you only call it one thing, really, I think. Yeah. Well, my family occasionally, early on, I think we would occasionally call it the Wedway People Mover. You would say the full phrase? Well, really. We got to do the Wedway People Mover. Yeah, because my parents went a number of times before we were born my brother and i were born and that's how it was always called back then and then eventually i i wrote it before the redo the 94 redo a couple times i would think

um but yeah every now and then we'd call it the Wedway People Mover. That's for kicks. That's nerd shit. Wow. Now that's a shot called. Mike calling the nerd shot? Yeah, I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying that's some nerd cred. That's a nerd parent still. Game recognized game.

That's right. All this said, I know canon wise, it is called the Tomorrowland Transit Authority. I've never in my life out loud called it to a person. Let's go ride the Tomorrowland Transit Authority. You want to hit the Tomorrowland Transit Authority. I've never in my life out loud called it to a person. Let's go ride the Tomorrowland Transit Authority. You want to hit the Tomorrowland Transit Authority? Yeah. TTA? The TTA? Yeah, the TTA.

No, I've never called it that. Yeah, we've only said PeopleMover. My mom was obsessed with the PeopleMover, so she always, like, early on, it was like, we gotta do the PeopleMover. But I had never... So this is a big, because it does go back just to, and we'll go through history, but 75 in Disney World, 67 in Disneyland, and has not been there for a long time. But, you know, over on the West Coast, my mom loved it. So, like, an early one, like, we're going to Disneyland, oh, you have to do.

It was probably part of my first visit, I'm sure yours too. This is like, this was the original Soarin'. I think, was yours too This is like This was the original Soarin' I think Who Did Matt Apodaca call Soarin' The Josh Groban of rides? Or am I attributing that to somebody else? But it's a good quote

Because it is true Everyone's mom I know loves Soarin' And it seems like it might be similar For the People Mover I think so As well Yeah Well not

I think you know It's a ride that That anybody can still do it's very much an all ages ride but then also they probably got to do it uh when there was less in the park yeah like not to say it's like still one of like i must do this i can't be in one of those parks and not do it but they're in 67 and 75 this was like major attraction one of the primary attractions it must have felt like a self-driving car it must have truly felt very because you were in tomorrowland also so at the

time when you went on it it probably did feel like the future it did feel like well i'm in this like tiny little square that's moving and there's no one driving it i've never been in something like this before like it must have felt really cool at the time i think so for sure especially with the rise of like science fiction uh as a popular you know uh book genre and movie and tv genre and stuff and then you see this futuristic looking thing um even though as it went on it progressively became more cage like sure yes breezy futuristic outing scott i yeah i guess i i was wondering what was it like growing up riding the disney land one until 1995 where it was a stake was put through its heart you know it was jason it was wonderful what can i say

it was great it was one of my favorite things to do yeah um one thing i don't really remember is if it ever, oh, no, it did get a paint job. So I don't remember. I don't know if I ever did it with, because it had initially the Disney primary colors, like the Autopia, like the Skyway. It was another one of those attractions where it's bright red and bright yellow and bright blue. And then I like the, you know, the unified future vibe of it too but they're just they're delightful vehicles to sit in it's that great disney rounded plastic it was a ride i could do

the first time i went when i was three or so and that i do every time and a long ride yeah the thing like and we'll talk about the things that you can see on the people mover but the what one leg up i think the disneyland one has had oh god longer and and and some of that longer being that you actually go out into the octopia slash submarine right area and you're whizzing in and out of skyway cars and the monorail um it just made that whole you know that upper right corner that we've complained about a number of times that feels a little inessential these days it didn't used to be there were four really pleasant rides going yeah at all tire five did i count submarines i i guess if you in that oh and the motorboats there was oh such an active zone i just i, I loved it.

I love the people. The kinetic energy of like all these modes of transit running at once, and you could see them all at once. Yeah. It's wild to watch in the old videos on YouTube. Yeah. And we've talked about before, like the train going through Splash Mountain or something, rides going through rides is the greatest.

And we've tried to break down why and i don't know if we've ever completely solidified it but it just there's something about it that makes you feel like i don't know like you're flying through you're like it's like a dream i don't know this is less of a good investigative thinking about it you probably have a better like emotional argument to it i feel like maybe i admire it from like a planning perspective you know it like makes it feel like um you know you want to feel like disney admire it from a planning perspective. It makes it feel like you want to feel like Disneyland and any theme park is one coherent vision. Well, then this thing broke, so we put something there. And we needed to do a movie tie-in, so we put something there.

It's by nature a little more haphazard. And places we live, cities are haphazard and places we live cities are haphazard but the people move like this through line it which is what it was supposed to be in the world if it was a real public transit system it just felt smart like well we have this store and this ride but also we have the space for this uh this little train thing to go through and uh we built a new roller coaster but we made sure it also leaves space for the little ride to go through yes yeah the i'm trying to think like i guess like with the railroad even it does feel like that specifically and i guess maybe with the subs too even though the subs are the subs never feel like tomorrowland to me even though they are sure but it feels like especially like railroad through splash mountain stuff it's like

the different worlds are connecting a little bit you get a little peak you get a little piece a train in the river boat with all the yeah on it those don't really make sense together but why not that's you get a little peak and you like zoom in and out and then it feels like uh you're getting a different also a big part of it i think you're getting uh views of things from different vantage points which is because we all the walk out of the walk walk off yeah walk off is like the most desired thing is getting to see robots up close or from a different angle. So when you get to see like the kick line on splash mountain from high up, well,

look at that's different. Sure. Yes. Those tools in the log think there's only one way to see this, but we smarted them. So the whole people mover is that going through things. And when you got to see like space mountain before you even were brave enough to ride it. Well, and before it was even done.

I mean, this poster, I think, is pretty iconic. The one in Florida that says preview Space Mountain. The scenic way? The scenic way. Wow. Aboard the Wedway PeopleMover. And so they would use that, the seeing stuff from other angles. It was a marketing technique.

Yeah, and it works. It's great. If you had to synopsize the attraction, in case people have not done it or are not super familiar, my vague attempt would be that it is a network of little trains, of little futuristic cars that give you a scenic tour of Tomorrowland from an elevated vantage point, from the second story that lets you see scenic views of the outside of Tomorrowland, but also weaves in and out of both stores and rides

and probably other things you could classify. Yeah, I think that's good. I think there is a word missing from that description that is overused by me on this podcast think there is a word missing from that description that is overused by me on this podcast it is a more intimate little train car essentially you know it can fit like your family and that's it and it's open it's much more open than generally than a train car not much more i guess but it just feels like that because there's only a few people in there and it floats you by things from a high up perspective which is fun to be

high up as jason knows yes yes um so yeah you're on a tiny intimate little train futuristic train car squeezing through little tunnels little tunnels yeah could fit anything um yeah seeing views that other people don't get tomorrow Tomorrow's Transportation Today. This is the Disneyland poster. Also, I think, pretty iconic. Beautiful. The people mover presented by... Look how much fun those people are having. They're having fun.

These 60s mod characters are having. They've not been caged in yet. Mm-hmm. There's a little more freedom, yes. Open air. You're getting a... I like making the emotional arguments here because you start going like,

if that, you know, that synopsis that we gave, that might not sound like a ride that we all have a lot of feelings about, but you start adding up. It's all the little things. One being like the breeze. You get a nice breeze on these things. Oh, yeah. And I'm less familiar with the Florida one, but I know that the elements are crazier in Florida. You get pretty crazy heat and rain too and with this this is a

ride that you can do and not be too affected by those things that's that's great yeah the breeze we've many times we've said air conditioning big deal breeze also a big deal you're gonna breeze on a ride outside drop my phone excuse me uh i also will say this we just mentioned the height i think if this thing's on the ground we're not as excited about it who cares yes absolutely you know what and you know what i think it's like something we've never talked about on the show i don't know if i'm gonna call a shot on this one but we'll do it okay point you know that thing the view liner 50s attraction early early disneyland attraction that was kind of next to the train but it was a colder steel train a future train yeah uh where you saw less as far as i know it was a shorter route and you don't get to see

the rivers and the critters and all that it's just a like a grounded future train that barely goes anywhere unless i'm wrong and we look into it and the view liner was great, but if it was so great, why is it gone? Right, good point. I think it's like the, there used to, like an early episode, I think I said

Disneyland used to be dirty with trains. There were so many trains. You certainly did say that, yes. And that was the little one, the similar, more of a bullet train kind of look, but similar to the one that Walt had in his more of a bullet train kind of look, but similar to the one that Walt had in his backyard.

I think they kind of squat sat on. Oh, okay. Is that right? The view liner? No, that's a different, the view liner was this like unfriendly kind of steel thing. Because yeah, there's another kind of, yeah, the thing in his yard was a, it was an old West style, but you sat over the whole thing instead of an enclosed train.

Can I say, can I say this, Jason? I, I, I'm sorry. I don't want to make you upset this early in the podcast, but when I was a little kid, I didn't care about the train, the Walt, the Disneyland rail or Disney world rail. I didn't care about going on the train when I was at Disney world. Well, I wanted to go on the people mover all the time i loved the people mover well i always loved the people mover more the train sure but i'm just saying i was not a train a little train boy that's fine because the disney world train practical for

getting from location to location right um uh good for like okay everything's got a long wait and it's 100 degrees outside we need to cool down somehow this train there's no way for the train a little more boring than to disneyland well that's true yes but i would say now like say we had a functioning people mover out here i mean i think i'm i go on the train if i'm with you and you want to go on it i'm happy to do it if i'm if i have my druthers maybe every 10thth, 7th trip to Disneyland is when I go, go on the train. Yeah. It's not that frequent. You got a little girl, not a little boy.

I got a little boy. We'll see how she turns out. We're going to do the train a lot when we start going. She might super take to it. But my boy loved it so much. Yes. And I'm not. I can stomach a train ride if my daughter wants to do it. Yes. And I'm not, I can stomach a train ride if my daughter wants to do it.

Yes. And it is a thing you'll find when you go to Disneyland. It's very exciting to be at Disneyland with a two-year-old. But then like, what do we do though? There are a lot of things not on the table. And the people mover would have been one. Would have been perfect. Yeah.

It's such a bummer it can't. I'm sure we'll continue bringing stuff like this up. But the People Mover, there's an article on Mice Chat from Sam Genoway, the Disney historian we've talked about his books before. And this is where, I'm sure a lot of places say this, but this is where I saw this number. The attraction could host up to 4,885 guests per hour. Yeah.

Could you imagine if we still had the people mover at Disneyland? All those pieces taken off the chessboard. Oh, my God. It would save for crowds. It would be nice. It's like a real public transit situation that would lift traffic away, hopefully. If it would do it in a city and it would do it in Disneyland. Yeah, because the practical reality of the Disneyland People Mover, as I know it, is garbage.

It's trash. It's just unused tracks, unused awnings, unused second levels. Because I never got to ride it. I don't have the affection for it that I do in the Florida one. When we were texting, you were very cold. I would like to talk about disney world a lot because the current one is crap it is tracks that are rusting away and i have nothing to say about it i mean that's true that's also a bad habit of how i used to text at old jobs where everyone's like sneaking their phones out doing it real fast and putting it away why were you doing it really fast and putting it away uh because uh insane mpaa regulations no but no with us why were you

secret it's just a bad old habit i fall into when i'm trying to be clear and concise so you weren't hiding your phone from some like people mover sort of a manager yeah yeah yeah six five fred gwynn in my bed i had made a little fort a research fort and was typing on my computer oh my god oh ho ho ho ho ho ho you made a little i'm erasing everything previous to this so we have enough room to talk about please explain the little research i was just i had pillows on for my back and jason jason i hate to say slow slow down again how many pillows leisurely trip how many pillows what type of pillows we need we need bed pillows great so

full size four three or four yeah and you've got your arms i've got my arms are you are you lying down are you kind of seated up i'm sitting up with a pillow on my back one pillow is pillows is for garfield to also sleep on oh that's adorable there's a little dog there too he doesn't even need the bed he doesn't even just the bed is not soft enough for him he needs a pillow he likes to use a pillow he puts his head on i love that like a man sometimes we share a pillow oh adorable yeah okay so he's on one of the pillows you are propped up with one of the pillows and then where the other pillows being used for and i think i had my computer on one okay and was uh using a bluetooth keyboard okay wow um because the macbook air keyboard makes my hand cramp sometimes okay um well you need to invest you need a minority report situation where you can pull up all of your screens and your websites and your Sam Gannaways and then just slide them around.

Basically, yeah. We can get you a hands-free way to, I mean, that's the way to take the research forward into the next century. Did you finish what it is or did you put like a blanket over the top with a flashlight? No, no. Okay. All right. It was freezing out and it was pouring rain outside So I was just cozy

This is interesting We haven't talked about this In a year or whatever this is Six What are we doing I think so I am I will sometimes like

Kind of like Cleopatra style Lie across the bed With the computer And do my research like that I don't plan out Like what you're talking about I don't always

But I was doing it Before we recorded In a bed With my with my cat bunny next to me. Okay. Lying down like Jason or? No, wait, hold on. I was sitting upright. Okay, sitting. Well, right.

Yo, sorry, sorry. I mean like sitting sort of. It might have been similar. Hospital bed. Hospital bed style like Jason. Slight incline. Yeah, yeah. I end up on my like left side.

It's a bad thing. It's my, probably hurts my shoulder and like my left abs, whatever is left of them. I end up kind of like leaning, doing stuff on the bed sometimes. That sounds very uncomfortable. You got to invest in a fort. The fort is better, yes. I agree with that. Please, any artist listeners please uh visualize let us see what

what what you saw when jason said research for it i love the sound of it yeah we would yeah we need to see it we you you love to see it but uh yeah feel free to draw me like cleopatra though if you want and draw scott with his little cat with my little guy i should post a picture wow it's fun we all research in cute little ways different cute ways with animal comforts and with with cushions and the dog won't get my dog he won't get in the bed with me he does early in the morning and that's it he will not come into the bed until the next morning he refuses i don't know why weird um i uh also my note for you mike

would be uh grapes you should get grapes and if you oh yeah and it sounds like the dog's uncooperative so i'm this is i'm extrapolating way too far but if the dog could serve you the grapes now we're now we're for cleopatra mode i would love that and watch out for asps that your uh enemies may sick on you oh okay bumper car boys their people mover episode is gonna be way better than ours because we haven't heard of what that is yeah um wow okay um let me swing it back to uh from that to dry stats let's do dry stats would you that that number you said 4800,800? Yeah, basically 4,800. Anybody know what the current Disneyland highest, you don't have to say a number,

but if you had to guess highest capacity attraction. Is it Haunted Mansion? Mansion or Pirates? Pirates. Yeah, yeah. Any guess of the number? It's longer than Pirates. I did know this at one point.

Is it 3,000 something? That's right. Yeah. 3, 3 430 not anywhere close to the people mover yeah and that's right still feels a little like slow i mean it's like the length certainly helps but then it's small world not a mansion the only two that are above 3 000 are pirates in small world yeah i should know because the boat rides are slower yeah so people are on the longer two rides and they're important to have and the longer that they can be and i i think that when we did the navi river journey episode it didn't dawn on me until uh i was driving home that like oh i think the thing that we i i wish was i wish it was longer it is an average length ride for like standard theme park attractions but for boat oh yeah short boat it is a short yeah or three times as long you know what yeah

well my whole note was just more scenes and moods and changes and i think our notes go hand in hand if there was just but isn't the whole ride does i saw roadie i don't know if we specifically said this but i think i saw roadie saying that the ride was born out of we have extra space in the flight of passage facility right so it was almost an afterthought in a way not to you know uh that's not fair to that ride but uh you know roadie implied that a little bit um so you know if they ever built a new pandora which they should given the smash success of my right let's get it into the other parks let's get it into disneyland forward i want hotels demolished and i want pandora built i want small businesses out of business i want your shopkeepers yes people on harbor out of business i want bob

eiger to rule harbor boulevard and everything around it. Tony Roma's gone. Dr. Steven's in Dr. Steven's in. Yes. Same video. A lot of those restaurants are the chain. Let's get rid of the chain.

If it's a mom and pop, that's doing its best. Gone. Gone. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah.

Mom and pop. So you're saying in the same way the little man of disneyland golden book where they explain to little man that he lives in the place they're going to build disneyland and it's going to be great if you just stay here and make a deal with us maybe mom and pop they just build pandora around them say they have a diner sure you build the pandora around a little diner and let mom and pop still run it well now we're now we're in the pandora spirit right because you know the interlopers shouldn't kick out the people who live there already so that's you know and and the the land of pandora is post-war where humans and not you're getting along so yes that's it should be post-war where disney and harbor residents are getting along right but disney has taken over yeah yeah first things first yeah yeah uh pandora inspire that cold stone

to uh be a better cold stone that's true yeah it'll be good for the cold stones bad um well when we do the harbor row down no which i'm calling the shots for 2025. Oh, great. Let your daughter get older, and then we'll deal with the harbor hoedown. Okay. Anyway, look, high capacity. What else is like a important?

Oh, I know, I know. Mike, you already said it, that if it's on the ground, maybe you don't care, but in the air, you more than care. That's the rule. That's good, yeah. It's not just that it's elevated, but I think, so this attraction comes in in 67,

the first time that they radically revamp Tomorrowland, and it was a little chintzy before. It was a little unfinished before. And it's all these like Monsanto exhibits that are half thought out. And I don't know, we need something to fill this room. God, just someone give us money and you can do whatever ad you want in here.

Now Tomorrowland in 67 is actually thought out. And I think at that point, it gets a big leg up the other lands because you think about the other lands, uh, main street, there's all those windows up there, but you can't go up there and it's built to a seven eighths scale or I don't

remember the scale, but you know, it's fake, uh, fantasy land. You can't go up into the windows with the queen or whatever frontier land. You can't go into the offices above the golden horseshoe. This is the only land with a

second story yes good point it just like dimensionalizes it and makes it this this full little town which they really ran with in the 94 redo right tomorrowland isn't just this hypothetical fantasy world that it is it is a an actual like bustling metro there's so much of my childhood and i assume a lot of kids whether they've thought about it or not is spent uh playing video games and going to places that uh have some promise but you can't actually enter like okay here let me say this better main street is a great example you want to go in every store on main street when you're especially when you're little you want to believe everything is real when you see the exterior of certain houses or when i went

to santa's village and put out santa's house i want to go in santa's house it's a facade you can't go in it playing the especially early video games you want to be able to go in all the locations you want to feel like you have a complete access to this whole world but you do not yeah so there's so much of it so when like we didn't have toontown in florida so when it was like mickey's birthday land and you could go in mickey's house that idea is so attractive to a kid and what you're saying makes sense with tomorrowland where you get the extra dimension of it yeah that you don't get in the other land so you do feel like it's a little more real than the other place more like a city a city isn't just one level and that's it

yeah sure a city has a second level at least and it finally got it you want to feel like everything's infinite yeah yeah yeah and it really helps that and you really you feel the the lack of it right i think um one thing when it opens in 67 is that it is part of, okay, the 67 Tomorrowland is People Mover. It's Adventure Through Inner Space. It's Carousel of Progress. And it's the Rocket Jets. And the Rocket Jets are put on top of this platform on the third store. We have a third store now.

So Disneyland is expanding upward. And I loved that so much that there is this tower that is a ride sandwich there are two rides on this same structure and you talk about your kinetic energy you got a ton there and now that they've let tomorrowland go to hell and the people mover is gone and they moved that they changed it from rocket jets to astro orbiter which is now on the ground who cares just like you said before why would you not want it to be up super high and there's that weird sculpture quote unquote that doesn't even move anymore they have taken a tower that was a ride sandwich that had two rides on it

and now there are zero rides on it insane you go to disney world what do you get there how many rides you get the astro orbiter on top of the people mover it still looks great right sandwich two two to zero yeah it's it's how could you let how could you let a situation transpire where it goes from two to zero this is one of the strangest decisions yeah i am you know it's it's this is a baxter choice um do we know i don't look i don't want to put this on him i don't you mean the astro orbiter thing i yeah maybe um i mean look i possibly i think so they would again to use the world say this kinetic energy phrase again that was the idea is that the hub and being right with a trick now that these jets are flying by and look the astro orbiter is great in paris it so he's coming

off of that he's like it's cool there so it'd be cool here and then what you lose is that the the crazy thing about that tower in disneyland is they just stripped all of the rockets and the ride parts right out of that and then just put a bunch of satellite dishes on it and painted it gold yeah it used to work it was cool when it worked for a year yeah i don't do it anymore any version of it when i first came in 2006 maybe in 2007 it would play like a medley it would play music and it would rise and fall like they were still doing it then they were doing it i think that the whole the tomorrow that tomorrowland redo i think that most people involved the lack of budget you know rocket rods of course not that gets working but i mean everything i think the whole thing there was some regret just like there was a lack of budget in general so i think there were probably people

would make different decisions if they had to do over again and i think disney world got in there right on time their 90s redo was kind of before everything got shut down so thoroughly so they got the money and it and it shows what a like incredibly built and fleshed out world yeah it still is and yeah pretty well received aging pretty well i comparing videos like oh yeah it's a lot more of the old blues they've gotten rid of a lot of the neon purple and greens they've taken down some of the fins but it still looks pretty good yeah it's still pretty still mostly coherent and looks like it did use the theme that it you know the the you know i think tomorrowland in florida at the moment gets points for having

people mover uh tomorrowland and disney moment gets points for having a people mover. Tomorrowland in Disneyland gets points for having the more pleasant Space Mountain experience. That's true, yeah. Disney World might get the bump when they get the fucking Tron coaster, and they have two roller coasters. That's pretty big. I don't want to tangent too much. Has everyone seen the video of this weird Florida holiday space mountain? That is incredible.

No. It is wild. It's like red and green lights playing loud Christmas music while you're on Space Mountain in Florida. And I don't know that it works, but boy, did I want to try to do it because it seems so strange. It is just like techno Christmas carols at at 11 turned up to 11 insane blaring and it's so weird looking but i'm like this is i want to do this i only learned about it this year apparently they do it at the christmas parties and then the week leading the week around christmas everyone gets it like that's the exchange for the christmas parties it seems like

an overlay done with absolutely no finesse whatsoever which is why i like it looks awesome it's kind of like it's it's a little stupid it's a little like very stupid i think it's like you know it's cosmic bowling just like champion yes uv lights and now it's uh right it's a teen experience like the star wars overlay for the space mountain out here feels like they did their very best to figure out ways to subtly put in it's still like there's obviously it's not perfect but like they really figured out like ways to do things and make you know lasers from an x-wing look kind of like they're you know alongside your car or whatever this is nothing like that this is like i just blast some fucking music

wow what is this like music like also is it i'm trying to think what is it like tubular bells like a techno or something it's man i'm steamroller i don't know that it's that but like yeah we should find if i'm we'll find a video of it i'm not sure but it's it's i'm also like blown away looking at the video of this the overlay feels like a cast member like comes up to you while you're on the ride vehicle and goes uh what color you want the lights in there you're like uh purple and orange and they're like great all right can you give me your iphone and just like get your give it a spotify playlist whatever you want to play is fine and i'll be like all right and like that's how much care it seems like which now makes me want that version of space mountain which i guess

is like the rip ride rocket or whatever but even more personalized that's music that is not synced in any way just there is no sync if it's cool but next to the ride then it is there should be like a vote you collectively vote on what color you want the lights and then just like you turn around and be like anybody got any uh spotify playlist i like and somebody just raise their hand and then that's what you're listening to on Space Mountain. Okay, we're listening to the Pitbull mix. Oh, my God. Do you have Three to Tango, his song about a menage a trois

with a music video that has John Travolta in it? Yeah, I got it. All right, great, perfect. Okay, great. And then we'll unload at Timber. When Timber starts, it's time to go. Oh, man. Pitbull needs to be on Space Mountain.

That would be so good. We've all been thinking it. Yeah. That's a more difficult shot that you're calling, but maybe. Pitbull, Space Mountain. Mr. Worldwide. Mr. 405, right? Miami's not that far from Orlando.

No, and I don't even think that matters. I think he's so universal. I think he's got to be at least on Space Mountain. That's the issue. I think he's so universal i think he's got to be well that's the issue i think he i think he's so universal i think that's where his allegiance lies because he played a great match of uh duff beer pong giant but all right with jimmy fallon in a clip that only i remember all right well that's true uh okay well we'll figure out a spot for him on Universal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is a major theme park IP waiting to be grabbed,

and it's Pitbull. Oh, man. Do you want to go backwards and talk, like, where this comes from a little bit? Sure. Like, we've made the emotional argument, but how do you end up with this ride? Besides that it is the the bit the first big redo of tomorrowland and a major one one that gave it the bones that kind of that it still

has and that um the disney world very much took over but it has its roots in the ride that you were mentioning earlier jason the ford magic skyway yeah Yeah Where that is a ride Yeah we do have to do this one It's so weird that you would sit in a Ford car And I guess actually this answers I was always wondering is the car on Is the car in neutral

But the answer is this ride system There's a conveyor belt Apparently this goes back to the 39 Worlds Fair In New York Where they would give people test drives in Fords ride system there's a conveyor belt apparently this goes back to the 39 worlds fair in new york where they would give people test drives and fords but they have to wait in hours long lines because there's only so much track and only so many cars ah and so when uh i think john hench went and toured like the ford facility with walt they were like, look at that conveyor belt with those ingots on it. You know, look at, those look pretty

What's an ingot? Like a piece of metal, like a metal, like a bolt. So along the lines of, I think, bolts and things. I'm not 100% sure. I just saw the phrase. Ingots. But like a big hunk of metal. And they're like, well, that can hold

pretty big hunks of metal do you think it could hold a mustang hold an entire car that's pretty cool and then it was like i really need to know like well i may well do it soon the you to like it is a you're in a 60s car that is on a car conveyor belt that is taking you to see dinosaurs what a strange ride i sort of wish that they had just gotten to move that ride lock stock and lock stock and ingot to disneyland um because like because everything else from the world of worlds fair rides again small world carousel progress uh lincoln lincoln right right yeah um those all show up kind of as they were at the 64 worlds fair tower of the four winds garbage

throw it away did not bring it over throw it to the wind now and in pieces some of that ride made it the dinosaurs made it to the train tunnel but they did not do the the full you sit in a car and see dinosaurs which i wish they did i think the reason that they didn't they were full you sit in a car and see dinosaurs, which I wish they did. I think the reason that they didn't, they were like, well, we'd like to do something like this, something that with this ride system, which was very innovative, where you're in a vehicle that does have wheels,

and the wheels are propelling you forward, but the engine is not on. There's no engine in your vehicle, it's in it is the track that is doing all of the work yeah and and a specifically a bunch of spaced out tires that kind of grab your tires and propel them forward and then when it needs another boost you go past another set of tires well what i read because i think that was on the table, like, Ford, do you want to sponsor the people mover? Walt, at that point, was using it as a test for a public transit system in the first version of Epcot. Right.

And there was resistance from the Ford people of, we do not want to sponsor a ride that shows the future of transportation is not our automobiles. And that is, yeah's that's uh electric it doesn't involve uh motors and engines yeah yeah but tires well good year tires are happy to sponsor this tire based ride of course good year tires will be the key to great public transportation of course there will have to be goododyear tires involved so Goodyear gets involved I think you talk about what our parents used to call it I don't know that my mom did but I think I think a lot of people in the 60s and 70s would call it the Goodyear people mover even though it was not ever specifically called that but it was heavily branded enough um but yes so it also the idea of this right is to showcase this real idea that walt has

for public transportation the uh you know he's there's this uh this this master plan that he made and this uh this thing progress city which then is part of this attraction you see a big model of progress city and his whole notion was that cars are not part of the downtown of the city that monorails do the heavy lifting those take you those do like the big traversing of distances but then going from building to building are these little people movers yes and another part of it was that he i think think he said, and well, you know, I'll just temporarily call them people movers, but you guys will come up with a better term. And they did not ever. And this term stuck.

Now it's kind of a generic term. That's used by other things. Cleanups or whatever. Yeah. Because I've written people movers all over the place. In Vegas at the Newark airport. Yeah. I've written the one at the Newark airport. Yeah. I've ridden the one at the US Capitol.

There is one under the US Capitol connecting buildings, but that'll come back around later. Sure, sure. With the airport, with the George Bush intercontinental airport people mover. We can put a pause on that.

But anyways, yeah, no, there's things that are probably monorails but you end up calling people movers yeah usually it's shorthand for like this looks like a monorail maybe but it's automated there's no conductor it's funny if walt had lived in like because we've the only way you he walt ever got to make his like super villain city that was the original epcot was if he lived and forced probably the company into bankruptcy destroyed everything in pursuit of like his perfect city but it feels like there's no way that would have been like lobbied into the ground

because of the fact that cars were not an important part of it oh you're like cars are such a strong lobby that they've decimated public transit in so many different places yeah and keep it from keep things from actually being efficient well they'd be underground where they couldn't be seen the cars would well that's true on the exterior you could drive around i believe because that's what's called a shot original walt epcot special this year somebody needs to like this is me this is me using the audience as a personal assistant which isn't fair but like can somebody make write them down someone out there yeah they're getting called uh-huh we talked about that epcot special when

we did the anniversary yeah we've been last fall we're like okay next year maybe the epcot's the hour-long special um where he is like on death's door like that's it but and it's if you watch it there's like i swear he says something about weather controlled city like he says something where you're like uh wait a minute what was that it's as if he said like and we have a death ray and the death ray will shoot at other cities and you're like wait hold on what did he say like there's a few of the a few there little drops despotic stuff um we have our own military for this city and we will attack other cities american cities if we have to our own son the cold war is heating up but if i have my druthers you know some of the buildings can move they have legs and they will they can get up and

walk to other cities and and kick other cities buildings some skyscrapers can cry i'm not going to explain how but they can feel feelings may have already killed god in advance of this city your new god is commerce and progress god is buried under epcot center come to florida and visit god's grave jason is just legit choking on his drink lost his tea and we're not breaking we're gonna hear him suffer through this because of scott's scott's tagline all right all right jason's gonna recover on the air. He's going to fight through it. He's going to need a long time in the research fort tonight to decompress for that one.

Oh, glad there was cinnamon in that tea. That was great. Oh, that's why. Yeah, you're getting spice in the throat. That's a tough combo. Jason just swallowed a bunch of cinnamon. Didn't even get to drink it. Took an unwanted cinnamon challenge. Yeah, I took a cinnamon challenge every other episode.

Yeah, so look. Yeah, bizarre super city with God's grave. Yeah, there's an odd sound to it. But hey, at the same time, weather controlled. Hey, with everything that's happening. And what do you call these crazy rains that we're getting right the scary term for the rains currently i mean other states are getting it worse but like directo or the arctic front yeah i forget what tunnels or something i for what is no i don't know what is this weather term but um i don't know but

look hey in general climate change wouldn't we kill for a weather controlled city right right about now yeah if yeah the magic whatever his magic weather-changing ray was that he had, yeah, it would be great. Who really is carrying out the dream but Dubai? That's true. That's where we all need to go. That's true. Just live in weird Dubai malls and theme parks.

Well, we can get the free tickets to the Warner Brothers world there. We can? We were offered it. We were? Yeah, not a free trip out there, but. Listeners, put this on the list. Let's follow up on this. Why did we forget about the free tickets?

All we have to do is go to Dubai. That's right. You and me with our toddlers. And Jason will climb the building. With his Twitter account. Whatever news stories from Jackman he's posted. I want Jason to climb that building that Tom Cruise did in Ghost Protocol. I forget what the name of the building is, but if Jason could do that, reenact that scene.

He can have a short bungee. Not like all the way down, but we'll give you like five stories. All right, fine. It's so convenient here in Dubai. They take your passport right when you get off the plane. They must keep it warm for you they must hold on to it i'll be here at the airport when i return to re-achieve my freedom surely um okay where the hell were we i know bizarre like uh uh all right we're going to demonstrate this public transit system but it's also going to be a ride um it's uh it's it's great it's relaxing it's one of these

great bob gerr inventions and uh of course the system of it is cool but i think the little touch is the coolest thing at least about the disneyland one tilted roof it tilts when it comes back into the station to let people in and out so they don't bang their head on the top really hard like weiger did on mickey and friends when we went for Doughboys. Oh, yeah. You guys were in for that. I heard about this. Got a concussion getting off the tram.

Poor Weiger, apologies. Jeez. Wouldn't have happened. Even clumsy Weiger would have been able to enter the people mover without issue. So it looks great uh these these little innovations and you get to go through these to you know you're seeing the the line of adventure through inner space which becomes star tours later um and and the big like midpoint thing to see on this route initially was

walt's vision of the super city this gigantic model of progress city uh um which is now which ended up moving to florida where it remains to this day correct yes it is there that is a portion of the model that's not the whole thing it's not even the whole thing yeah oh my god that's so did disneyland have more of it or did it stay in at the imagineering or something i think um at least at the world's fair when you would exit the carousel of progress you would see this massive model wow i don't know where it's fully ever been exhibited after that i think well at least disneyland for a while and it shows you this cool future city with the transit moving in and out and it also shows you churches.

It asserts that there are churches, and specifically Catholic churches, really near the city center. I was looking at a website showing all the details of it. I'm like, oh, all right. The Catholic church is represented in Walt's Superville and City. Wow. And it was just, they're just Catholic churches. There's no other. There may have been.

There may be other types, but I think the only specified one interesting again i could be wrong i don't know if it's i don't know if they wrote out catholic in little letters i would believe this you can hear voices saying now we actually believe that it is the body of christ and not right it's not a metaphor not symbolic well when we go through this epcot video there might be a quick thing where he goes and catholicism which is the only sect of Christianity, that's correct? You're like, what are you saying? He's on to the next thing, and you're like. I don't even think he was Catholic.

Yeah, what was he? He was not. That was my question, my next question. I think it was kind of a, I don't want to say lazy Protestantism, but a lot of them are. Like, yeah, I think it was like a generic god generic christian i see well i'm calling our shot figuring out what religion walt was religion in 2023 he go to what were his praying habits yeah let's figure that out did his children remain in the faith right there did there's children's children

are do you know walt's grandchildren are they going to church right now if not what can we do to get them back in there okay he was a member the family was a member of a congregational church yeah okay what does that mean i don't know it honestly it asks more questions than it answers questions that need to be answered in another episode. It does sound like, because we did Walt's polo injury, so what is the Walt's religion? Walt's religious gods. Walt's God.

Yeah. That's the name of the episode. Okay, going in. Walt's God. He had a strict religious upbringing, but never attended church during his adult life, believing that the love of God was all one needed. All right.

That's pretty convenient. Walt Disney and religion from the website Mickey News. Sorry. Walt Disney believed that all you needed was God's love? Huh. The man who invented all the ways that every corporation has revenue streams today? A devoted congregationalist christian hmm interesting yeah i don't know much about the congregationalist church well we're putting the ptr microscope on congregationalists this year it does seem like a generic enough term

that like reverend lovejoy was a congregationalist yeah well that's another what kind of christians were the simpsons i say were because i don't think they're spending a lot of time at church these days yeah i was gonna yeah do they go to church um you know they probably you know because they probably need stories with love joy right and it was in the movie right so somewhat i'm sure yeah yeah we just don't they they're not as many serious church scenes to steal a Doughboy's observation how much the early show is about them going to and enjoying church. So you see a model of a city that has plenty of churches in it, but then that disappears.

That moves over to Florida. So what do you do in the middle then? Because mostly, look, this ride isn't about uh the cheap thrills right it's about a breeze in your face and a leisurely little tour through through mostly the outdoors but when the carousel of progress building is built now there's this big empty space that the track has to pass through it used to be filled with the model but uh what do we fill it with now and this is where the middle beats of the original people mover start coming in uh 1977 jason you were showing some of those posters

and i'm going to show one um oh wait well before i say that um a very thoughtful present from my dad when i graduated college uh and i'm moving into a house with my friends and he's like you need real art you shouldn't have crappy posters up on the wall like it's a dorm so i'm gonna get you some nice poster artwork whatever you want it to be and i will frame it very great thoughtful present from my dad uh and i said oh you know what it should be because it combines silly with actually cool visuals, the Disneyland attraction posters, like you see under the train in that train tunnel, which then made me think, well, how do I narrow that down? What posters of all that great artwork,

which ones do I want to see every day? And I chose Haunted Mansion, the iconic Hitchhiking Ghost poster, and I chose People Mover, Ride the People Mover Through Space Mountain and the Fantastic Super Speed Tunnel. hitchhiking ghost poster and i chose people mover ride the people mover through space mountain and the fantastic super speed tunnel and i still have this up in my office um in this is a very exciting poster that is very minimal but also really conveys motion because there's our people mover car but now it's like being sucked into a wormhole all the way in the

in the back of the frame and there are race cars whizzing by and so many lines indicating speed it's a dynamic poster i still really love it um i and then i was curious wait but i have this poster but then i don't know what the super speed tunnel was other than oh you know it's it's a big empty room and they project stuff on the walls and now it looks like there's race cars going by and i think i just said it because i think so and i looked up message boards where people were asking did anyone ever bother to film this and other people said no because it wasn't good the effects did not really work it was kind of like the speeds just felt weird more

than anything the projections weren't good and it did not live up to the promise of the very exciting poster uh unfortunately but i still like the idea of it and that's like early simulator stuff right yes and that i mean the early like i still want when they doing like trying to find inner space videos it's like so hard to figure out what's going on in there those are yeah incredibly obtuse like yeah and understand because people didn't have phones to film everything very clearly you had to rely on like old eight millimeter cameras or whatever and that's still i think thought of pretty fondly for people that went on it definitely um but this yeah this especially

if no one had a good equipment and the thing looked like shit yeah forget it and like that's like you know what what camera do you have in the 70s that can film a movie off a wall right that's that does not work yeah work um but then so super Tunnel doesn't make it very long. So, but then in 1982, they switched to something much more exciting. And that is, and they add a sign that now makes the ride, perhaps technically casually called People Mover Through the World of Tron. This is the first Tron attraction was this brief moment on the people mover yes and in the sound of it i think it like because there's video of this yeah and it lasted a long time it was there till closing i because i remember i definitely went on this oh yeah that makes sense

because i think the video i watched was nine it's like 1990 okay yeah and that's yeah so so would have been there this was not this was not an elaborate re-theme of the people mover but uh no they already had an empty room and projectors it's something to interrupt the music yes yeah yeah plays for a lot the very pleasant music that plays for a lot of the rest of the ride oh my god wait really quick because i go for these i like i can't not um wait here the the youtube user if you want to look up okay the disneyland wedway people mover music collection as posted by steve k where you will hear the most pleasant library of specifically early 70s like music library tracks easy listening this stuff but let me just

recommend what i did if you can imagine which was crack open a nice bottle of wine listen to the entire all of these library tracks pay but i'm gonna call that shot for you the listener if you want to chill out and you know oh yeah make like jason build yourself a little fort but don't you don't have to do any research just put on this beautiful this with this wonderful music and just just quick hits of this this is the i think the sky walt disney's vision for a oh the best this is like this is a huge part of it to me is this i agree and there should be there should still be hints of that places in the park and i'm trying to think of there are i don't i feel like the only place that they're, like Main Street will always have the old time music,

but not that type of old time music. This kind of music is tough to find at the park. We want match game era, horns, Herb Albert-like style. Yeah, oh, Herb Albert's a perfect name. Staccato trumpet. Like we want. Those little hits.

Yeah, it's not blaring trumpets backerack yes carpenters yes i don't know how much i've expressed my love of the carpenters on this podcast love the carpenters so much they filmed a really pleasant music video in disneyland in the 70s which is a rare thing to do to film something that isn't a disney right ad there and richard carpenter played in main street also like in that coke corner kind of area so i fit like this music is very carpenters they're synonymous with like the good sides of 70s disney-esque americana just this vibe is so great to me because the carpenters came up something very much like up our alley jane and i got really into watching the carpenters variety show oh the tv show

which is alphabet themed like a through z so they would have to come up with intros to segments with the it's it is wild what is an example of that i don't i well obviously they're songs like they would use you know song title but then like other just like moments for like xylophone it's just a light comedy patter it's very straight it's like really like what could you possibly do besides xylophone you got no other options you're doing a music special that's that's what you're that sounds good is that a shot are you calling that i don't i don't know i you know i gotta twist my arm to do some carpenters do you guys know the carpenter's space song we must have talked about at least i don't know actually

calling occupants of interplanetary craft i don't they made a song about aliens and how like aliens are uh okay full and reaching out to us for uh peace and harmony it's like truly like a jaw-dropping piece of music that you think maybe you're putting on as kitchen to laugh at it and by the end you are really weeping like it's avatar way of water oh my god inter species harmony love the carpenters glad i got a chance to say it that's great um scott that that youtube channel you mentioned with the uh some uh people mover audio also has tons of inner space stuff like stems like stems and music for that right i think that and like the people mover there's a bunch of other videos and it says tomorrowland 2055 stuff so wow i don't know worth looking into um i just is there can you think of

a place that has any where with that seven that 70s vibe that's left in any of the parks? With that just music wise. Do any monorails play anything like that? I don't think so. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like that's a little piece of retro that should live somewhere. the mute the tomorrowland music loop that i love so much uh that you can hear in the people mover in florida has elements of those songs but a lot of it's more techno yeah it's more like 80s and beeps and boops and i like all that stuff but there's that breezy 70s horn that's missing yeah something i don't like about some of the more recent florida music is it just feels

current to me so it doesn't have like the magic as much of this like vid that just places it tomorrow in an era in tomorrowland tomorrowland or epcot are really the only spots that it would still be appropriate i guess probably yeah so i guess yeah i would have to just be somewhere in there but yeah no that's that's vibe is missing from the park preserve the easy listening we need it somewhere at least just somewhere some little kardashian gardens type corner if there's anywhere that still exists yeah like that uh please love this music anyway that was all a sidetrack from the tron thing another something i like uh equally as much as the carpenters uh so this is i mean this aesthetically

boy early uh people mover i love but i i'm glad you brought up the music because what i'm going to play is the interruption of the music with a very jarring quite different aggressive voice in popular culture just a sightseeing uh too much of it but hey yeah who's complaining yeah warning you have invaded the electronic realm of the master computer program prepare for the game grid of tron and then just weird whistly nothing um very strange very like extreme right turn in the vibe and another thing about that is the master computer program is not what the thing in tron is called yeah i was gonna say what is the master control program i know this only because

i made a sketch about tron the 1982 tron holiday special which combines all these vibes that i like the great rip taylor and and uh uh aaron my wife is in this video and she was like oh i remember that because i kept saying the wrong thing and you had to correct me no no it is i think she was saying master control wait what else would what would the pb i don't remember she got the other word wrong uh master control panel maybe and i said no no no the iconic character master control program who's the kind of like squat tunnel of light with a face right yeah second to the villain of tron like the zo the pre-zordon of power ranger like oh it's so zordon yeah voice is very zordon in a big tube yes same

deal um i want to say i consider myself in the like higher rankings of tron fans and yet i didn't know that what that character was called and for a long time even well past me considering myself a tron fan i didn't know if tron was a character or a place or a thing i truly did not know even saying through the world of tron i'm like so tron must be where you go in the movie no no tron is a guy played by bruce box leitner but again i don't think that's what it's about with tron i think tron is all vibe tron is aesthetic yeah yeah which. Tron is a way of life. It's a feeling. It's not a movie. It's like a... It's a lifestyle.

It's a word. Yeah. It's a lifestyle. It's got motion. That's what Tron... Tron's bigger than the two movies that are okay. That are just okay. I don't really care for...

I know. Tron is not about the movies. Are you kidding? Right, right. That's certainly what people are hoping... What Disney is hoping for the ride. Like, don't worry about the movies ride the roller coaster and it's true yeah it's true that's gonna be the most

popular tron thing it's honestly perfect you do not even have to ask like why would they make a ride out of these movies that are okay no you're you are you're overthinking yeah yeah it's neon lights and stuff it's great i think the cartoon series has more passionate fans than the movies oh yeah that's supposed to be cool it's got a really interesting look to it and it came out around the time of tron legacy yeah i should check it out um but anyway uh oh and then he then like all you do is you go through a big tunnel that projects just footage from the movie tron which is great it's like this the whole the trippy sequence when you enter the computer world and then the uh the light cycle the original light cycle sequence which is so great and then like right at the end clang clang you have escaped tron's game grid for now users but take heed next time you may not fare so well.

Anyway, forget about all that. Forget that noise. Terrific transition. It's also funny because he doesn't say like a play. He doesn't call them like players. He calls them users. Users. Which is funny because I understand what he means, but it just sounds like he's accusing them of being like you're using me or something.

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not. I don't know. It strikes me as funny, but maybe that's just me. Very strange. It all made me think, like, first of all, you know why this is important? And I bet Tron locked into me because of this

and my love of this kind of aesthetic and neon. I mean, I know loving kind of like retro future 80s aesthetics comes from going to Tomorrowland as a kid but like this must have been a big one where like that tunnel was kind of scary right i'm three years old that's not like going on uh you know mr toad or small world right like like being in this big spacious gray tunnel with these kind of like imposing digital effects and a scary voice. It definitely, it was like

maybe my first entry into a scary Disney vibe. Oh, yeah. Which the listeners know I've had trouble onboarding with the whole length of doing the podcast with my launches and my Splash Mountain struggles. But I think it's maybe cool. It is a Disney, it's a ride that is

scary that little kids could go on and get get that little blast of tron right there's only a little small part of it yeah yeah so that's a nice yeah you get your outfit you see a light at the end of the tunnel you're gonna be out of there pretty quick yeah that's interesting yeah if you yeah if you could ease kids into the scare because most of the rides that are scared like all the dark rides which are scary for a little kid a little scaredy kid that's your i don't think i said on the show we did try i forgot that mr toad has i just listed it as a pleasant attraction but i did take my two-year-old on it oh god oh right train comes at you dark hell loud oh he was so upset uh-huh and it was even it was a last minute flip do i do alice or do i do toad and boy did i fuck up that was the wrong choice yeah yeah yeah uh i mean you'd probably

be scared of alice too um maybe but it's you know but it's less scary i think the turn i like and i was on a different vehicle than him and mom. And I was behind them. And I was like, oh, wait, train. Oh, this is probably scaring the shit out of him. Well, I hope he is not red in the face and weeping when we get off this thing. Sure enough. Oh, God.

Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. No. Yeah. I was much older. I feel like I was five and I hated every dark ride except for Peter Pan because I think it's just because of the distance. It felt like there was enough room space between me and the characters.

Oh, sure. Okay. Okay. Because I love that. I opened my eyes on that. I want to go on again, but it's too long. So we didn't go twice. At the time, you did not want intimacy.

I did not. Intimacy. I feared it. A fear of intimacy. So now I've tried to embrace it in my old age. So that's what I'm working on myself. Beautiful, the shot you've slowly called. That's right.

Anyway, you know, like, there's not much else specific to say about the Disneyland one, because then you're just, you know, then you get this leisurely tour through the, through the outdoor part through the atopia part which which is so uh so pleasant um what else is there to say about it um well they the i think we've said this before but apparently the reason is so this eventually was replaced by a ride called the rocket rods if you don't know it was a fast version of the people mover because it was on the same track uh it broke down a lot yeah it was uh this is one of the most i guess one of the most

prominent disasters i think as far as like a big hyped new thing that pretty quickly went away and if you haven't guessed yet that's its own episode yeah yeah that's not this episode we will deal with that as a thing but what i oh so were you heading somewhere yeah i was just gonna say that if you're one so yeah we've made mention that these tracks are still a lot of them are still up so you go like why is there a track here nothing is running on it especially right down the middle of as you're entering tomorrowland from the hub from the castle area, you were like, it's covering you. Like, it's so present, that first big people mover track. So people, I think, have often said,

well, why don't you just put the old people mover back up? And I guess the track has decayed so much at this point that they would have to completely redo all of it. And what's the stand? What's the? OSHA. OSHA, thank you. Safety regulations.

The safety regulations now are such that you couldn't fit the cars in the tunnels because people could touch the walls too easily right so now you can't do a new version of it because it would be against the rules like stuff that gets grandfathered in is okay which is really funny if they left it running right all these years it would have been fine right which doesn't make sense but i guess that's the way it works so yeah there's stuff at disneyland that i think yes is grandfathered in as far as like ride code or whatever it falls under building code but because of this dumb reset they did because we talked about it a little bit

um there was the there was a rumor that this year a big D23. Of course. Parks announcement would be the people movers coming back. And just something with Tomorrowland. Obviously. We want and need something to happen there. And they're even teasing. Daddy DeMauro is teasing us by making this speech where he keeps saying tomorrow.

I know. It's this awful, like we're being strung along i know and then nothing is said of course there's no people move i'm seeing bloggers so confident about why i saw a guy in a hard hat walking around over there we must be getting a new people mover well that was the before the pandemic that was like you know what d23 tomorrow here's what i think we saw joe roadie up on the people mover track the other day people telling us we saw joe rody up on the people mover track the other day people telling us we saw joe rody now around the people mover track for a couple of hours to be fair he probably was working on a tomorrowland redo that just didn't get green lit but still it's just it's

how many lucy and footballs do we need and now i'll call my shot podcast the ride episode fixing tomorrowland yeah that's a big one that's coming good we will fix it in the hypothetical disneyland disneyland yeah tomorrowland is in or i'm sorry in disney world i yeah we're still in we're still in pretty good shape but we've you know obviously this comes up there is some tomorrowland complaints uh maybe every other episode i don't know i don't know how often but we've never completely focused on it and there's a lot of tomorrowland things that we have missed and in terms of a broader call of shot i think 2023 is the year to deal with tomorrowland exactly what you said mike

um over the course of that also how did we get here what is the stuff that happened sure yeah and you know where are the tomorrowlands that did it right and what can we learn from those lessons what were the tomorrowlands that never were um and certainly this bizarre thing the rocket rods that ripped the guts of this pleasant ride out of disneyland the only thing i want to say about the rocket rods is that the the sound of the people mover a very pleasant aspect and then still in the disney world one um it's just this like i mean it's silent mostly but also if you're on it there's just this kind of like nice clunk clunk you get those as you're like going

past the little you know the what's giving you speed um and that's so much part of the pleasantness it's little clunk clunks and it's this music that is so great the rocket rods was like a ride based on leaf blowers leaf blowers the ride could not have been more just like the off like it was like a foghorn playthrough uh amps that were turned up to the point of distortion horrible sounding ride that then would like speed up and then have to stop and just crawl past the turn because they couldn't afford to make the turns we will get into all this we'll deal with because i did do the rocket rods and i have rocket rods thoughts oh you did i did i did get to do it yeah yeah yeah um it's uh it it was interesting i were like it had a real it had a vibe to it and

and uh i don't know my thoughts might surprise you on it when we get to it but let me you know as we're winding this one down pause on that we'll explain um this is a quote from theme park tourist they did a good article about people the people mover uh in some ways the people mover proves that not every starring attraction has to be a thrilling e-ticket perhaps the most appropriate lesson to learn from the case of the people mover is one of the oldest adages in the book if it ain't broke don't fix it absolutely look at the mistake they made basically here's what i'm getting at in the 90s there was a juncture point for all the tomorrow lands and there's this question of like well but tomorrow is here how do we keep tomorrow land fresh forever and disney world went one path

and disneyland went another the disney world path the people mover is still there everyone is smiling as they get off it uh new elements have been added to it that are a lot of fun. The People Mover is like a key part of the story of 90s Tomorrowland. In Disneyland, they added Leaf Blowers the ride. It broke after a year, and now we have rusting tracks and have four. Oh, this is why it's the year of Tomorrowland. This year, 25 years since that redo, since Tomorrowland 98. It has been this bizarre way for 25 years. Oh redo, since Tomorrowland 98. It has been this bizarre way for 25 years.

Oh my God. I don't want to go another 25. Something has to be done. The PTR boys are going to put their heads together and fix it. Yes, if we have to bring a hammer and nails to Tomorrowland and just start working ourselves, we will. The ingots ourselves. We will fully map out what the ride

is and the three of us will build it by hand with drag bob ger down there with us he'll he'll shout directions at us and we'll do it tomorrowland 94 and tomorrowland 98 it is literally the two-faced coin one is the nice head and the one is carved out scratched out and they i bet they thought they were doing because 90 really florida got lucky because the imagineers were like well let's do something fun for for here and for disneyland yeah so they kind of got lucky i think i think you know i think the ultimate and we'll probably we should try to learn what should have been with that 90 years redo uh and there were a number of plans for that but i think even the one we got i think i think tony had a good idea for it and it just did well yeah budget cuts and corporate greed you see and

i'll call another shot we're gonna get michael eisner this year and he'll tell us what he was thinking oh this is a perfect time to get him when we're talking about the the folly that's often prescribed to michael eisner and paul pressler looking for getting him on the show expensive rides and that was a big impetus for closing he would love to talk about this with us the episode will mostly be about bazooka joe which he owns but it will have a tomorrowland section okay great yeah we're gonna learn we're gonna find out what we're gonna hear it straight from the horse's mouth wait Wait, not the horse's mouth. From the very handsome man's mouth. That mouth that is aging so well.

Please come on the show, Mike. Please, sir. We need you. Anyway, well, is this... Now, you're probably looking at the time code and thinking, what the hell? This isn't the podcast, the ride that I know. It's over. No, no, no.

You see, we're making a bank down a whole other tunnel that you didn't know about we had a feeling this was not going to be we had there's going to be a lot of people mover to go so at this point there is a split much as there were it was with the different types of tomorrowlands we now split off here and over on the second gate we are going to deep dive into the ins and outs of uh the the florida version which jason is chomping at the bit i it's one of my favorites the tomorrowland transit authority i was fully prepared coming in today of like all right scott knows a lot more about california i'm sure he's written it a a bunch. I don't know anything about it. I just know the history, but I know the Florida one in and out.

And then I learned there are a lot more things I didn't know about Florida. Boy, oh boy. In the texts about it, there was the brief mention of like, well, maybe we do this one and then we do a shorter one. And then Jason like,

well, no, that one's going to be longer. It's going to be much, if you guys, you guys need to be okay with sitting around for a while because this is going to take a while. Do we even want to do like a lighter sillier episode because this is going to be an intense one to do this is what jason is promising on the second gate i thought it was very constructive conversation i thought it was very collaborative conversation i mean mike at

the time was holding like a fire extinguisher in one hand and a baby in another so he was kind of out for it but um i was yeah it was a busy morning for me yeah i remember checking in on the thing and i had the baby in the hands and i'm like what is going on here and there's like i was like all right i will respond to that but i have a lot of texts the baby has been very upset lately the baby has uh and sorry also did somebody burn a roast in the house? Did I miss something? Did you have to, was somebody's boss coming over for dinner and you had to put it out with a fire extinguisher quickly? Well, not figuratively, not literally.

So, yeah. Anyway, we got there. Okay. Yeah, yes. We know the plan, so we veer off at this point, but a lot of promises made we're going to solve tomorrow, and part of that is going to be discussing how did people mover florida do it better how they do it right and why is it a stalwart that remains there to this day so look for the episode tomorrowland

transit authority a different thing by the way let me in this discussion this was my thought i did text tomorrowland transit authority be its own thing that's what i found odd is that i said that and the answer was not yes the answer was many more questions and concerns well i think that answers your question yourself i because i remember i i was i remember going insane trying to cram in uh monorail like florida and monorail yeah this is a specter that comes every once in a while so one of you guys says well remember how stressed out we were trying to do all the monorails in one episode uh so and i know i see it comes up in therapy uh every four months you

think i don't deal with this what we did to those poor monorails flashback well stuff often comes back around you never know when things are going to bubble back up and it's best to address them and not let them lie absolutely well and it's and clearly it is best to split topics into as many subtopics as possible the show is all about it is really what we have learned the show is about and with that you survived the first main feed podcast, the ride of 2023. A lot of promises made a lot of fun stuff to do. So to check out Tomorrowland Transit Authority and as well as three bonus episodes every month, check out podcast around the second gate at patreon.com slash podcast, the ride,

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