Podcast: The Ride - The Purge with Jacquis Neal

Episode Date: October 22, 2021

Jacquis Neal (Culture Kings, What If...?) joins us to discuss the scarezones, mazes, and Terror Trams based on The Purge movies. Muppets Haunted Mansion episode up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/Pod...castTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:22 Forever. Dog. This is not a test. This is your emergency podcast system announcing the commencement of a Purge episode, sanctioned by Hotcast the Fright. Commencing at the theme song, any and all body topics, including murder, will be legal for 90 continuous minutes. Blessed be our guest, Jacquees Neal, and Halloween Horror Nights, a Universal Studios seasonal event by three men who would use a real-life purge scenario to switch clothes with the robots on Pirates of the Caribbean. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Twelve hours. All crime is legal for twelve hours. That's right. I think I could get in and out of there. Easily. I think. Yeah, we get a few outfits. Scott Gardner here. Are you already scheming for what outfits you would steal from which robot?
Starting point is 00:01:35 Well, I'd want to wear, isn't there one balancing five hats? I mean, I'd want to like, just to get bang for the most clothes that I could get. Let's get under those five hats. You would steal the five hats. Jason, do you have a pirate you would his outfit? Well, maybe the one with the pigs. The one who's rolling in the slop? The one who's rolling in the slop.
Starting point is 00:01:57 You know, it feels appropriate, you know, for the night, for the events of Purge Night. To then have a slot code on yeah you would do all your murders wearing the uh pirates outfit covered in well and explaining like guess what this is that would be like your version of like do you know how i got these scars or did you ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight and with like 15 minutes left i'll flip it what do you mean with whatever unscrupulous disneyana collectors are out and about doing deals of like stolen. Oh, flip it for money. Oh, I thought you were going to flip like the phrase on its head.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And I was like, oh, you're going to. Or your clothes. Yeah. Flip it inside out. So I look nicer. Yeah. So the mud is on the inside. When the sun comes up, the second siren.
Starting point is 00:02:41 When the second siren sounds, I want to look nice. Right. I'm glad you know more of the rules of the Purge. I know the rules, but I'm a little rusty. It's a thing where I have seen cumulatively one Purge movie. Pieces of every movie adds up to one movie, but I know a lot about the lore, about the new Founding Fathers. Of course.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I know about the new... Well, let's bring our guest in. Let's bring our guest in. He knows probably more. Actor, podcaster. You know him from marvel's what if and culture kings this is jakeez neil oh what's up fellas hey man how we doing pretty good thanks for being here we ready to talk some rides everybody yes we are thanks for reaching out we never know who's a theme park guy and you hit us up, and now we know. Now we know.
Starting point is 00:03:25 We're always happy. We want to know all of them. We want to know everybody. We hear. Yep. It's kind of wild, too. I went to, I've been a theme park person my whole life. I went to Disney World the first time in my life at 21.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Okay. And became a Disney park guy. That's an adult Disney. That's an adult Disney experience. I'm always impressed with that. Yeah. Yeah. Because you didn't have the little kid brain for it.
Starting point is 00:03:46 If I ever have kids, you know, listen, ladies, if you want to have a kid with me, I'm always impressed with that Yeah Yeah Cause you didn't have The little kid Like brain for it If I ever have kids You know Listen Ladies If you wanna have a kid with me I'm telling you now Telling you now We ain't taking the kids To Disney World
Starting point is 00:03:53 Until they're at least 13 I don't think it's a place for kids I think it's a place for adults Yeah yeah yeah I mean you know A lot of people listening To this just went like Yes
Starting point is 00:04:02 Yes They pumped their fist at that Almost all the times I've spent like Like significant hours I've spent away from my child so far as 18 months have been at theme parks without him. Yeah. It's great. So much leaving him to go on kiddie rides. Yeah. Disneyland, I'll take the kids.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Disney World is a vacation. That's for me. Oh, yeah, yeah. And they've got to be able to handle it and rough and do it. You do it you were saying you're going you're gonna go you're gonna do nine days you're gonna do a big like kids have to be ready to deal with a big a big old and they can't they're not yeah yeah they're not they're finicky you don't want tantrums uh when you were 21 you went yeah what was like the like handful of things you were like whoa this is this is so this uh all right so i so i went um it was my graduation present to myself i just graduated
Starting point is 00:04:53 college columbia college which i'm sure you know you're from chicago i'm familiar um and it was also me and my girlfriends at the time's one year anniversary so we went together she hadn't went when she was a kid but she hadn't been since she was like around 12 or some shit um and i went and i didn't know what to expect but i was excited to go magic kingdom i don't remember exactly the first park i went to but i think the first firework show i was like oh man this is like dreams at the time was going on. This is the 08. This is 08. So I was like, oh, this is like crazy. This is dope. And then I saw Fantasmic and I was like,
Starting point is 00:05:31 I love this shit. Fantasmic was the coolest. I mean, I'm from the South side of Chicago. We don't see no shit like Fantasmic in Chicago. Like I'm up here watching this and then this show, all these, this water and then Mickey's down below and then a little fireworks and he pops back up at watching this and then this show, all these, there's water and then Mickey's down below and then little fireworks
Starting point is 00:05:46 and he pops back up at the top and pop. I'm like, this is the best thing I've ever seen in my life. I think that's the moment I fell in love like with the Disney parks
Starting point is 00:05:54 and Disney in general. I get that. The music, I assume, also is very memorable. It's great. Do you ever listen to Fantasmic theme
Starting point is 00:06:01 just in the car? Not in the car. I have. I have. Okay, sure, sure. In the last 24 hours? I mean, you know, listened to phantasmic theme just in the car not not in the car i have i have okay sure sure you know in the last 24 hours i mean you know uh add a couple add 10 hours to that you know and then then you got the answer no i've listened to i've listened to them i mean it's good music it makes me feel like i'm in the park i've been to disney world five times now and like i miss it sometimes so every once in a while i'll like
Starting point is 00:06:26 listen to like the firework theme music or something right all right this is cool this is cool yeah um yeah that's i mean we have you seen like and maybe i'm introducing something that'll be like you'll get sucked in like loops they have just sort of like long multi-hour loops for sort of like walking around in tomorrowland the area music yeah the background music no i have not done that it's all on youtube i don't know if i can that might be that might be that's dangerous it is dangerous really yeah i i hate loops um i like it's a small world it's the worst ride of all time um like i immediately fall asleep when i it's my nap time whenever i go i go every time i go to any disney park because that is a 15 minute allotted nap period yeah i was just talking up i like uh we can take a little nap on the the
Starting point is 00:07:21 mexico bow ride or i accidentally fell asleep on the Haunted Mansion my first time after pandemic. A little ride nap I've been advocating for. A ride nap is quintessential for a long day at any park. Oh, yeah. And there's like that. We've talked about it before, too. The Orlando air conditioning.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Specifically, there's something about getting from humid inside. There's a weird smell to it but i like it i don't know how to even describe that smell you know what i'm talking about i know what you're talking about well in the orlando elements you need the ride naps because the the heat and the sun and the humidity will just beat you up it will beat your ass oh yeah i was straight first time i went and oh wait it was june which is dumb. Yo, yo. So hot. I remember at one point, I was just in the little tight tank tops that you used to wear, and I'm pulling my shorts up.
Starting point is 00:08:14 It is hot. And I'm from Chicago. We got humidity. Oh, yeah. I feel like that Florida shit. Yeah, yeah. That's another level. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:21 You were just saying, too, and we get to like the scary stuff in a bit but you said something that we all like gasped right before we started recording that you have done a voice a voice that is currently being used somewhere in disney world we don't know anything about this so yeah reveal it here yeah so um i i have a voice at Epcot right now, and it's actually Donald Duck, but not like the traditional, like, not that Donald Duck. So in DuckTales, DuckTales came back recently, and in that TV show, there are episodes where Donald Duck shows up, and he puts a voice modulator in his, and then he can speak regularly, and on a cartoon, that's Don Cheadle.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Don Cheadle was like, I ain't doing this shit for y'all, for Disney World. And so I got it. Wow. You're a voice match for Don Cheadle. You're a voice match for Don Cheadle as Donald, which is funny because my role in Marvel's What If
Starting point is 00:09:24 is also Rhodey. So for whatever reason, people think I sound like Don Cheadle as Donald, which is funny because my role in Marvel's What If is also Rhodey. So for whatever reason, people think I sound like Don Cheadle. Wow. Or I can do his voice well when I try. But I guess, I don't know. I don't want to put you on the spot, but like, do you have any,
Starting point is 00:09:37 like, what do you do to make yourself him? So, I mean, like, it's been a minute since I've done it, but like, so Don Cheadle, like, Don Cheadle, like, first, like, he like softens his voice up. He'll say, hey, we all about that superhero life here. It's way softer than my voice.
Starting point is 00:09:55 A little hushed. A little hushed. Very slick, very together. Very slick, very together. Tony Stank. Stank, I like that. I like that i like that so like just with a little like little like little swag but like a little articulate slag as swag is what i called it
Starting point is 00:10:12 wow damn that's really good i hear that like when i when if i have a job then i'll like listen to it and like really get into it but like yeah i got that which was the cool. I've been very lucky over the past two years booking a lot of dope VO things. And the coolest thing I've booked, which is nowhere near as much money as I made for other things. The coolest thing I've booked is the thing at Epcot. Wow. Yeah. Where is it? What's the thing?
Starting point is 00:10:43 So that I don't exactly know because i haven't been to actually see it i do know that it is so they were doing it's like a new interactive thing in one of their new building because they are revamping i've got quite a bit or we may be in the play pavilion is that which maybe is not open is that open well it was open last year oh okay I know they had it in something last year because I recorded that in summer for Christmas of 2020
Starting point is 00:11:10 okay okay um so it is up DuckTales World Showcase Adventure does that sound right yes that is exactly it
Starting point is 00:11:16 I think it's coming oh it's not open yet 2022 oh shit it's not even open yet it's not open yet it was supposed to open 2020 and it was one of the things
Starting point is 00:11:26 That got pushed back So I haven't missed it yet Maybe I should go for the opening day It's gotta be dope So it's not at Disney World yet apparently This is the thing about voiceover Especially for animation or animated stuff You'll do it a year plus
Starting point is 00:11:44 Before it even drops so you kind of forget about it i had no idea it didn't open yet yeah you probably did in there like oh yeah it's opening in like three months you're like oh cool okay yeah i was yeah exactly i was like well i'm not going so yeah i kind of just i didn't forget about it but i didn't like follow up to make sure it actually opened yeah uh we're we're we're it's in the world showcase does it say where it specifically is there i think it's gonna be throughout world showcase because there used to be like a phineas and ferb like kind of um scavenger hunt sort of thing possible at one point and kim possible so i think this is the technological upgrade where very cool there's
Starting point is 00:12:21 spots and the play disney parks app is very cool they were very hush there's spots and the Play Disney Parks app is involved. Very cool. They were very hush-hush. There's probably more information on it now because when I booked it, it was very hush-hush. It was just, these are your lines. Working for Disney is crazy. These are your lines. This is your own password to log in. It will self-destruct in 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:12:40 You will never be able to go on this site again. And I'm not even joking like that's exactly how they work um wow but you're i mean it's crazy you're donald that's pretty it's crazy it is crazy parks it is crazy i don't equate it as i'm donald duck like that would be the easiest thing to say is yeah i'm donald duck atcot. But because it's not the Donald Duck voice, you know, so. People are asking you to do that voice, which is nearly impossible.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Which is nearly impossible. We've been talking about it for a while. It is impossible. Yeah, it is hard. It is very hard. And it kills your voice. Kudos to whoever does it. I think he has,
Starting point is 00:13:20 I heard some intel that he has like a limit. He says like, clock starts now. I can't do it. Literally can intel that he has like a limit. He says like, clock starts now. I can't do it. Literally can't do it. Past a certain. With Tony and Selma, I think is the name. That's smart.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah. Because they be pushing your limit. They're like, hey, give me a series. Do three. Do ABC. And you're probably like, you getting the A. And that's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:43 You can't blame them. Yeah. Hopefully they'll just Replace Donald's voice Permanently with With you That would be nice That would be Hey listen
Starting point is 00:13:50 Disney I know you're listening We know they're listening They don't like to respond They don't like to respond But I know you're listening I know If by they
Starting point is 00:13:58 Then people who work At various stores And restaurants In the parks Are all cast members We've met a few Inside We've met a few people Who are like At varying levels various stores and restaurants in the parks. We've met a few inside. We've met a few people who are like in levels of varying levels. Yeah. Like it's like,
Starting point is 00:14:11 I work in some levels that have made us go, Oh no. What did they hear us say? Oh, no, that's fine. I know what you're talking about. Hint to me.
Starting point is 00:14:22 What level were we? What? Oh, I don't know that it meant legal legal yeah i wasn't as scared as jason made it seem they also talked to somebody who has the last name eiger we were that's easy that's talking about varying levels he's not even the ceo anymore who cares it's even not even anything to brag Yeah, and I hear it's because we said some bad stuff about him that he's gone. I hear he's trying to get through our back catalog before
Starting point is 00:14:49 he finally leaves. That's why he's extending it by six months. He's stuck on the CityWalk. Yeah, he's stuck a lot to get through. CityWalk gag. He can't get through it. Yeah. Okay, so let's talk scary. Let's talk the Halloween season.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah. Let's do it. When we asked if you had thoughts about scary stuff or haunt cast the fright here, the scary month, and you sure did. It seems like you're into haunts in general. I'm into it. Listen, today is a Thursday. Tomorrow, I'm going to the Hayride.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Okay. Saturday, I'm going to knott's berries scary or not scary oh great two weeks ago i was at horror nights i'm in i'm there i love it fresh from it did you did you do fright fest i haven't done fright fest in years which is funny because i have uh six flags season pass uh i have a crazy story with fright for us that i can tell you guys we would love to hear pretty love love Fright Fest on this podcast. So Fright Fest, I used to love Fright Fest. Obviously, Great America.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Sure, yeah. We had Fright Fest at in Gurney, Illinois. And so we were there one time. And this is back in the OG days where they could touch you and shit. And they were really trying to scare you it was not sanitized to the degree it kind of is now rule wasn't in place recently i thought that was always a rule no they used to i i specifically remember i mean they couldn't like molest you or like uh but they could like tap you on your shoulders and like
Starting point is 00:16:23 really get in your face and like put their little hands on you and stuff like that. It was crazy. Yeah. So we were in line for a maze. It was me and like four people. And we get in line. We're kind of like as we're like at the back of the line, like we walk in with the back of the line. And as we get in line, this girl, Solo, gets in line behind us.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And it's a long line, about an hour, 10-minute wait. And like about 10, 15 minutes of us talking, she like reaches out. She like interjects herself into our conversation. It's like, do you guys mind if I go in with you? Like I don't want to go into this ride by myself. It's like,'s like oh yeah yeah so we got to know jasmine um you know because like i said it's an hour long wait so we're talking we're laughing you know we're chopping it up we're enjoying the the wait uh and we finally get in
Starting point is 00:17:16 and then like they put it they take us in in the group it's like a group right in front of us and us um so it's only like eight people because that's before they used to cattle you into and we're in there and then about 30 seconds into like the the actual like maze something jumps out of out at us and grabs her and takes her back so we're all like what the what but like we don't know this girl. So we kind of just like, uh, and now we're on edge. Now we're on edge and we're walking through and like, we're like, what do we do? And so we just kind of keep going and we're just, so now, now we're extra jumpy. Yeah, of course. And then like toward the end of the maze, this pops out and it's jasmine and she's like
Starting point is 00:18:05 bloody now and she's like she was a part of the fucking ride wow she was a part of the maze uh she was a part of the maze like she's like help me please please she's calling our name specifically and like take and then like they like grab her back and like you know apparently kill her yeah yeah but yeah she was a part of the ride I was like, this is the dopest thing I've ever experienced. I was maybe like 15 at that point. Oh, yeah. It was a minute ago. It was pretty dope.
Starting point is 00:18:33 So yeah, what a job. She only does that probably like what, twice a day, twice a night? Yeah. I wonder like how many times they had, I'm sure now, because as you're saying now, they just like everybody kind of walks through. It's just sort of like. It's probably really hard to do it now. How many times they had, I'm sure now, because as you're saying, now they just like, everybody kind of walks through. Yeah. It's probably really hard to do it now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Because you'd really have to like, make sure everyone was in groups. And then there's like, that have to be an interval between groups. Yeah. Yeah. They probably can't do that. But that is such a great trick. It was pretty great. It was pretty great.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Yeah. I loved it. So I love Fright Fest. I have not been to the one out here yet. Okay. I should go. Yeah. We did go two years ago.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And there's a lot of uh teens and a lot of fog and uh yeah you know i don't want to i don't want to ruin it but we're going back next year okay uh and it is uh junky but good okay i mean that sounds like six flags yeah there's tat if you're worried that the tasmanian devil is still not well represented he is he's still everywhere at six flags magic beautiful so yeah you were saying uh you were into that stuff you're into disney haunted mansion yeah love that mansion love it all man i i love the haunted like live stuff was not a fan of haunted movies for a long time. But I'm starting to get back into them.
Starting point is 00:19:48 But, like, live in the flesh, I'm there for it. I'm there for it. It makes me want to fight. Oh, they love to hear that. Oh, they love to hear that. I would never touch a scare actor, okay? I'm a professional myself. I get it.
Starting point is 00:20:07 But I guess I like their adrenaline. it gets your adrenaline going yeah but if you had if it came to that you would be ready i'm ready i'm ready now i make a joke out of it like i'll go through horror nights and i'll like dude like the fake like fight stance uh just like as a joke like just to make people laugh around me but like it's uh it's a good time it's always a good time i love it yeah i get that i'm i it's i don't know if i've ever thought about like oh this is fighting energy for me but it's definitely like i just like sky i never sky dove or anything but it feels like that or you're like it's a safe way to get your adrenaline up it is a safe way to. I truly do think it's fight energy. People are jumping in your face.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah, no, you're... As close to fight energy as you can get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Think about it. If a stranger jumps in your face on the street... There was, yeah, I'm trying to think of the closest, because I've never been in a fight. Believe it or not, a guy who does a theme park podcast
Starting point is 00:21:03 has not ever had a real fight. Oh, man, we got to get you in a fight believe it or not a guy who does a theme park podcast has not ever had a real fight oh man we gotta get you we gotta get you in the fight oh that's right my gloves fights if we can get me into fighting for real i like pro wrestling but real fights um this is your path to become the rogan of this show there you go been two years you look like him the hair hair's gone. HGH. And I'm getting in fights after Horror Nights. Yeah. I mean, look, if we lack for content in a couple of years, yes, I will do it.
Starting point is 00:21:35 You know what to do for the $7 tier. Yeah. I need that extra $2. Closest I've ever been to a fight, it was at a wedding. Oh, wow. I think it was like not so long. I'm just trying to think of it yeah and i it isn't it's it is the same feeling it is like uh like your body's like i'm ready to do something with all of this yeah yeah yeah and it is yeah when frankenstein attacks you or i can imagine though i wonder like obviously not i usually only
Starting point is 00:22:02 go to these big corporate these these not scary, the universal. I wonder, there's got to be still places that can push you around a little bit. They're 100%. Yeah. The desert, there's some weird ones, like 40 minutes off the strip that I've never been to that I'm like, they probably. They mess with you. There's somebody, I've never been to this and I would never go because I'm not insane. But, like, there's somebody, I don't know the name of it but they were like yeah and like their goal is to torture you like to get you to
Starting point is 00:22:29 mentally break and like you're there for like four hours and yeah like i'm not i'm not that's true fighting now i'm ready to fight i will be ready to fight yeah at that point there's no choice there's no choice i think a lot of those you usually have to sign a waiver but there were and there was one downtown for years downtown la where they're like okay so they start by putting a bag over your head and then they lock you in a room and i'm like okay i already am uncomfortable like that sounds like a nightmare yeah you're you're you're off kilter already yeah yeah that makes sense um The Indie Haunt Circuit. That's a question. Are you going to start before your UFC days?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Do you get into the Indie Haunt Circuit? Before a 40-year-old man gets into the UFC in a few years. Although, you know, other 40-year-olds have tried it. Do I do the Indie Haunt? I mean, I've done a little. Last week, we talked about how i failed at one i had an anxiety attack before uh doing an escape room oh uh but threat of a minotaur like it's gonna be a really i wasn't afraid of the minotaur it's not really that's not that's a misrepresentation
Starting point is 00:23:37 yeah it was you were having this other issue but i it's certainly in my head turned into that you like flat you had very vivid nightmares of a 30-foot-tall Minotaur. For the fun of the podcast, yes, the narrative is that I was afraid of the Minotaur. Not the communal hoods that had been passed around all night for you to put over your head. No, they did pass hoods to us to put on our heads to get walked in. Yes, because it was a horror escape room. So they walked you in with a hood on, and I was having some claustrophobia in regards to the mask and then the idea of a 90 minute tight quarters um it was not the minotaur that was scaring me although it didn't help that it was a minotaur yeah i'm sure i mean
Starting point is 00:24:15 this sounds awful yeah i mean my friend was fun my friends did it they sounded like they were wearing a ball because it was literally happening just outside the room while i waited in the most pathetic way possible all right but here is here is the only part of the story not that matters but that like dictates whether you were right or wrong in this situation to sit it out did they escape uh they they did escape they had a lot of problems with the first room and it's one of the escape rooms i think where like the mad scientist was like well why don't you look over here why don't you come over to the right side of the room i'm going to give you a hint uh yeah so i think they did but i think it was maybe i
Starting point is 00:24:56 think they said after they were done that it was clear that at a certain point at a certain time uh the whole game clicked into easy mode oh okay okay i think that's how they put it so they did it escaped earlier if you were in there that you know what someone in the group was being nice and said the same thing we needed you man we needed we got to the wire bro we got to the wire we'll have to do it again with you i gotta do it again unfortunately i have to conquer my fears here But Indy yeah I've done a little of the Indy haunt scene
Starting point is 00:25:28 Phrase that we just made up The Indy haunt scene It sounds cool though When we did the delirium show we had to like hide under a bed Cause the good robot told us To us he was dying because the bad Robot was coming Yes we did an immersive thing that was like very intense and like you have to
Starting point is 00:25:45 like roll under beds while like officers come somewhere. That sounds fun to me. It was fun. That sounds very fun. We were climbing. We swung our rope. Yeah, you guys swung on a rope. We went on a different path and had to like crawl into rocks and stuff. But there's this thing
Starting point is 00:26:01 called Delirium and there's a horror version of it now, which we probably should go try as well but okay you're giving me you let me mental note i love that i've done more and all that type of stuff i bet you would love this yeah probably it's such a long thing but it's not yeah not in the tight quarters and i don't know if there's a minute term do you eat food three times the points do you go anywhere three times the points do you stream stuff three times the points well then get the rbc ion plus visa and earn three times the points at grocery stores and restaurants as well as on gas ev charging daily transit streaming services digital gaming and more all the time three get the rbc ion plus visa three times the points conditions apply
Starting point is 00:26:47 visit rbc.com slash ion cards but um how's how's the stuff this year i guess most of it you're about to do but you did horror nights i did horror nights yeah man horror nights horror nights is weird man because i i do enjoy it um like the first time i ever went to horror nights was 13 2013 um i was fresh out to la i moved in 2012 so um and at that point it wasn't like i went off peak season i always go off peak season and it was fine like it was still kind of like we're putting groups in instead of like yeah cattle and then like around 2016 around that time i don't know like everybody just decided you know what i'm gonna do horror nights too uh even though it's been around for a long time it's gotten so much more popular it feels like in the
Starting point is 00:27:37 past like four or five years where it's kind of miserable now so like it's really miserable because it's just too packed um i'm talking lines of like two and a half hours to get to be just cattled in um so i didn't go to horror nights in like 17 or 18 because i went to horror nights in orlando which was great because it's so much bigger yeah and it just seems like a party it's's a party. It's a 100% party. It's so much fun. Yeah. It's so fun.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And they also had, I mean, I think now they, I know now they do, they've opened up Wizarding World during Horror Nights, but at that point they weren't. But in Orlando they did. So you can go into like Wizarding World and it was like horror themed still too. And it was pretty dope. I went this week. it was just as packed it's like there's covet never existed um it was just as packed as it's ever been just like off-putting for sure like just when even if there's not you don't even if there's no actual danger you're just like i've not been in a crowd of this nature in a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:28:45 It's pretty wild, man. It's pretty wild. I will say this. If you are lucky enough to afford it, do express. Yeah, yeah. We got there and we saw the line and we was like, let's pull the trigger. We still did it after you were in because Mike didn't get to. Mike was too late.
Starting point is 00:29:02 It was sold out. It was sold out. We did it literally as before they opened the doors at 7 p.m. Oh, yeah. That's why it was later. We just saw how packed it was to get in. Yeah. The lines were all the way to the security line.
Starting point is 00:29:16 So we was like, let's just do it. And when I tell you, I'm an asshole when I get to express lanes. I do a Vince McMahon walk as I'm an asshole when I get to express lanes Like I do a Vince McMahon walk As I'm passing everybody With the wiggle I do the straight power walk It is my thing I love it I think it's so funny and I eventually
Starting point is 00:29:35 I felt bad because I was like this is Terrible because they Shuttle you in front of that entire Line and like just Put you right in and you're walking past two hour lines and cutting all of them. Fastpass is a little different because you eventually merge in with the real line
Starting point is 00:29:53 and sometimes you can have your own line. It was none of that. And you're going by the people that have waited the longest because they're at the front of the line. So it's not even like the back of the line that just got in line. They don't know. They don't know. They don't know. They don't know the front of the line. Yeah. So it's not even like you're waiting. You're like the back of the line who just got in line. They don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:05 They don't know. They don't know. They don't know the pain. These people. They have set up the fajita effect, like Chili's, but for theme park. Like everyone in the line waiting can see the express going to the front of the line and just going like, oh, I should do that. I should have done that
Starting point is 00:30:25 what can i ask what the fajita effect is do you know you know what this means yeah yeah so the fajita effect at places like chili's and stuff is the sizzling they put it on the sizzling skillet and they purposely from the kitchen to the table take a circuitous route so that it like wafts the like wafts, the smell wafts throughout the room. And then they sell more fajitas. Cause people go like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:30:49 I should order that. I'm a big Chili's fan. And I actually didn't, wasn't familiar with that right away. Yeah. So that's awesome. The fajitas at Chili's have to be superb. Correct?
Starting point is 00:31:01 I can only imagine. I mean, the fajitas, they're everywhere pretty much. They smell amazing, but they smell better than it tastes. Yeah. Yeah. correct yeah okay um so so you did front of the line which yeah that is the way to go if you can it's the way to go otherwise it would have been a miserable night so that's kind of where it is now and that was september i went on the day of my birthday, September 30th. So going even now, now that it's October, closer to Halloween. It's crazier, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:31:29 Yeah, it gets crazier. Look at Halloween. Yeah, we did it last weekend. I mean, the only other thing I could say you could do is get the frequent fear pass, which is like 200, and then just go like the last two hours every night. Yeah, that's smart. And then that's like way down. The line will be way down that way.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I guess you have to figure out parking if you want to save up you can park down on lancashire i guess walk up take the tram if you want to be frugal which believe me i've done it a few times yeah you also you can also take like the bus there you know i've done that i mean i live close so it's not that bad hard for me but subway subway stop right subway stop is right there yeah yeah so there's ways you can do it there's ways you can experience it and not be miserable uh this year were their highlight we talked a little bit about it last week um but what were your highlights at uh horror nights at horror nights um the frankenstein maze was very good frankenstein maze was very good i actually like
Starting point is 00:32:27 i wasn't expecting to like it because it was seemingly like the most unpopular one as far as the wait time no it's zero waits yeah um so that was pretty cool um i should i'm at this point i've started to forget though. There was Pandora's Box. There was Halloween 4. Halloween 4, Pandora's Box. There was the ghost or the Haunting Hill. Haunting Hill House. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I think Frankenstein was my favorite thing. Jabberwockies, which is not horror, but. Oh, you saw that? I did not get to see the show. Oh, really? It was so good. It was so, so good. Is there any horror because yeah this i mean people probably know this is a dance troupe but like the it is do they halloween it up
Starting point is 00:33:14 not really they do like a like what like a a a 30 second maybe a minute long like they'll do like a little dance to like that or some shit it's not it's not horror based at all it is just straight up it's a show and a reason to sit down for a half an hour um so that that was the theme uh yeah i don't know i'm having a hard time remembering which i guess is not a good sign what about for you like oh um i was talking i liked uh halloween four i like the end when the five michael myers attack you oh yes halloween halloween was fun i i tend to like the ones where there are more actual people instead of like fake yeah yeah popping out at you like when there's actually a human because that's scarier yeah yeah yeah so those are those are the ones i enjoy and there was a lot of michael myers and the michael and the
Starting point is 00:34:18 halloween one yeah because there were yeah there were like five at the end in the house of mirrors which scared me yes that was a good one. That was definitely a good one. In general, when you're in these mazes, what is your strategy? Because I've seen people do a lot of different things. My strategy still is a pretty cowardly one where I would prefer if I was behind a group to not get the scare, even though I can see the scare coming. Yeah. I've done that strategy before yeah i've definitely implemented that i hate being last maybe last i've done a couple like indie
Starting point is 00:34:50 haunts where when i'm last there was one like creepy clown that followed me for five minutes uh one time and like at first it was funny then it it was cool. I was like, all right, bro, stop following me. Leave me alone, man. Like, shit. But, yeah, so I don't like being, I don't mind being in the front. Yeah. Because the front rarely gets it. Yeah, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:35:22 The front rarely, it's always like two, three, or four, like, behind. Because they'll see the front coming. And, like, they don't want to blow their load on like the first two people so they'll like wait like just a couple um but now it's hard for me to like the last few times i've gone i've gone with like people i've dated i'm dating sure and so i'm just like a shield at that point well you have to do that. You have to be the shield in this scenario. Yeah, I'm the shield. I've been the shield lately.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Okay. So it's been hard for me to have a strategy because I have one shoulder. Your full body you can't access. Yeah, I have a whole side of my body i can't access so you know like there'll be some times where i'll like get surprised and actually jump and scare but most of it is just like oh there's something right there trying to get the other person to get off my body yeah i've seen people do and i saw we had one person or a group in front of us do this
Starting point is 00:36:25 And then a couple years ago We ran into Justin Michael and Betsy Sedaro And they did this too They hold the line themselves In the maze In order to clear The people in front Maybe from a full room
Starting point is 00:36:39 So then they go into the room Completely alone So they get the scares themselves Because now there's no one in front of them because they want fresh scares each time. And somebody did it. I think it was on, maybe it was the exorcist. I forget which one somebody did that to us.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And I noticed the behavior. I knew what it was because they were in front of us. And then I was with my friend, Tim and he was like, what is it? Oh, they're, they're trying to hold because they want the full scare. And it is smart if you're like if you like that type of thing yeah um that's
Starting point is 00:37:09 pretty smart uh i was like when when betsy and justin were first doing it i was like what are they doing it's crazy what uh we're gonna get all the scares like yeah but then i go oh that's what you see michael it's precisely the idea just the scariest man i know justin michael said to me yeah most fearsome person scariest man and the cool thing about that is like nobody's gonna be really mad at you because everybody's so disarmed you're not even realizing like right right these people ain't moving yeah like in front of me go go you ain't even like clocking that that much yeah it's not like a drive-through right right but yeah so that is another strategy i guess cool yeah it's not it's it's good because also like i do wish you had a little more time is what we were talking about in the old days where you could kind of take your time a little more versus now how they're just like you're
Starting point is 00:38:00 literally just speed walking through them the i will say the last couple times i've been to the hayride um which i really enjoy actually i think the hayride is pretty fun um with park yeah okay okay yeah the hayride is pretty fun but they also have mazes there too oh really i didn't know that okay okay just like two or three and every year they have the big one, which is not a, it's a true maze. So it's not like you have a direction to go is go in, find your way out. That's the maze. And so because of that, like you get, I mean, you get lost. You truly get lost. And like, so you will get multiple scares.
Starting point is 00:38:44 So that's actually very fun i do i actually have not done that that does sound really scary i'm going tomorrow so i was hopefully they'll have it again because that's always generally my favorite thing to do there but and then like once you do finally find your at least the last two years i went finally find the end you have to basically go through a birth canal it feels like where like you're walking and then it's tighter and you're squeezing through it and it's just like all up on you and then you finally pop out outside canal made of what of leaves corn what's this canal it's made of it's made of human body parts.
Starting point is 00:39:27 It's big plastic. Is that like inflated garbage bag material? That's exactly what it is. It's like a balloon. Oh, I see. Yeah, it's like a big balloon or something you're going through. Oh, interesting. They have that at, what's, there's, I think it's Paranormal Ink at Not Scary Farm. That's sort of how the end is, I think.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I think I'm probably messing around. And you've not been to knots that's great i'm going saturday okay yeah that's great yeah um there's an outdoor there's a hallway did you do terror tram this yes um the uh uh since since the topic is the purge yes i'll spoil this for people because it's been open for a while but there's i watched the walkthrough i actually watched someone live streaming it opening night but it was like 5 30 in the afternoon and the sun hadn't set yet so i've seen the terror tram in uh broad daylight and also in pitch black okay scarier in pitch black i'll say that but there is one there's that outdoor hallway of like netting and people in what i believe are called ghillie suits jumping out of yet i was like oh my god yeah yeah that got me a couple times oh that got me a couple
Starting point is 00:40:33 times the the tram was generally not as exciting because it's very short yes um or once you get off the tram but like once you get to that part you're talking about uh the first that was my first real like oh oh no oh yeah you got me so yeah if you haven't done halloween horror nights universal hollywood the the the tram tour drops you off on a part of the back lot that you wouldn't normally be walking around it's like towards the end of the the typical tram route and it seems like they still do it in the same place where you're going through now whoville's gone so they don't have to make a demented grinch world anymore like how do we justify clowns i don't know how do we justify christmas here
Starting point is 00:41:21 we don't have jack skeleton as our property property. Yeah, we do a scary Christmas without all of the scary Christmas characters that everybody knows. That's a mystery. But it is, you know, it's scarier stuff on the route because you got the
Starting point is 00:41:34 Psycho House and the Bates Motel and then the War of the Worlds plane crash set, which is really brutal. And the theme changes of what this is. They seem to incorporate
Starting point is 00:41:44 different horror properties into the videos that you watch on the way down. really really brutal and the theme changes of what this is they seem to incorporate different horror properties into the videos that you watch on the way down and i think chucky's been a part of it or i i forget all chucky was a part of it my favorite one i mean since this is what we're talking about uh was the purge which is this year no it's not this year but that's my favorite one they had this year is no theme, really. Oh, I mean, overall. Overall. So we have Purge down there and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Yeah, yeah. So there was, yeah, so 2018, is that right, was the one you're talking about, which was like the whole theme, basically. Yeah, like they've done Chucky and they've done the Purge as the theme of the Terra Tram at some point. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, this year, it's the second time it's the Purge.
Starting point is 00:42:28 It's mostly the Purge. Is it mostly the Purge still? They're calling it the ultimate Purge, but then Norman Bates is also hanging around. Yeah. It confuses it, yes. I'm like, wait a second. Why Norman still?
Starting point is 00:42:39 Yeah, you're absolutely right, because I took a picture of it. Me and a friend go watch every purge movie in the theaters when they come out uh so like i took a picture of the ultimate purge and sent it to her so i forgot that probably because most of it didn't feel like the purge like the shit you're talking about when they jumped out at you that don't that's not the purge it could in theory happen in a purge it does does, but you know. A lot can happen. The purge is just general.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I guess if somebody wanted to dress up as leaves and jump out of a bush, then I can. And then slink back into it. I guess that is the purge. And then reset. Not kill you. Not kill you. Just scare you. We stole the ghillie suits.
Starting point is 00:43:21 This is not my property. It is a crime. We have 12 hours. Or it's already 7 a.m. We have 12 hours to jump scare anyone we want that's what the new purge is move very suddenly yes ways we've been trained to move but still like our weapons never get that close to you yeah but we jerk only move everyone's trained to move in a very jerky fashion that is unnerving to watch a human do it is yeah yeah so i think that's what made me fall in love with horror nights and i to talk about the purge a little bit
Starting point is 00:43:52 i don't want to jump ahead or anything like that but like i was pleasantly surprised by the movie the first one the ethan hawk one uh i thought it was going to be a steaming pile and like it was actually very good i was like this is good like the concept is like interesting and the movie was well executed and you you root for him you hate people you like people and shit i was like okay i like him he's good i watched it a couple nights ago in preparation for this having not released i did watch election year and i remember absolutely zero of it so so I can't speak to Election Year. I remember being entertained by it, but yeah, Purge is a real movie. Yeah, the first one is like a true story.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah, yeah. My qualm with it maybe is that it does become like people are trapped in a house, and other people are trying to kill them and get into the house it becomes that kind of movie and it's a good version of that kind of movie but i am just so obsessed with the premise and that america would adopt this purge plan yeah that i just want to see like periphery i want to see congressional hearings like how did they get to this point well that? What did the various parties think? How did that vote go?
Starting point is 00:45:09 What was the debate like on CNN and the lead up or podcasts saying about it? Sounds like maybe there's something. I think you need to watch the first purge. I was wondering if I should. The first purge is exactly that. They do go into dry. I want logistics. Okay, okay. They go into dry logistics. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:45:25 They go into the logistics. You see what? Because, all right, here's the thing. If the purge happened in real life, what would we all do? Nobody's going to be kidding. I mean, somebody, I guess, would murder people, but we're going to be fucking on the streets and stealing and shit. Like, we ain't going to be murdering people, like, for the most part.
Starting point is 00:45:40 You still think people still don't have it in them to, like, it seems like in the purge-averse, 70% of people are murdering, at least at least yes and we all have a secret no of course i would all like most of us would do it but but in reality probably it's just like it gets a little kooky it's a little kooky like you know because in my mind is like all right i i murdered this person and then what tomorrow i gotta go like to, you know, rouse with your nephew. Like, I don't want to play. Yeah, right. Oh, how they happening here? I killed your auntie last night, man.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You can't do nothing. It was legal. It was legal. It was legal. You know the rules. You know the rules.
Starting point is 00:46:21 They sit on TV and everything. In the first one, they have to all still live in the same cul-de-sac they all live in this fancy neighborhood together and like yeah what's and then things do go very badly so yeah what's the rest of the year like for this community bad terrible horrible but the first purge the actual movie so not the first purge purge movie but the movie that's called the first Purge, which I think is the Purge 4 or something like that.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Yeah, you're right. Because election year kind of wraps it. I don't want to spoil anything for you, Scott. Election year kind of wraps... Ironically, the Purge election year
Starting point is 00:46:57 had a happy ending, but then in 2016 in real life, Americans voted for a real life Purge. Yeah. So the movie had a happier ending But then Yeah they go back to see it
Starting point is 00:47:11 And then there was a TV series That's ongoing I think Or did it get cancelled? I think it got cancelled and then Whatever idea he had for the third Season He's like I guess I gotta make another movie like it seems like they're always like you want to keep making more movies and they're like
Starting point is 00:47:29 hell i wasn't going to but then i had an idea an idea purge ever after or purge forever if you want the things you're explaining you want to see is basically purge two through five where it's just like murder and debauchery uh-huh and then you even get one in there that explains like that you know this is the thing we want to do oh it's not working what can we do to make it work and like yes boardrooms logistics schematics overheads yeah i'd watch a whole movie where there is no purging is there just watch like kind of a just a dry like a you want like the senate parliamentarian is that what the position is making all the problems right the one who like says oh yeah you can't pass this bill today and they go oh i guess that person's right the negotiating with i want to see who the
Starting point is 00:48:20 the fucking who are these best cinema and the mansion yeah i want to see who's holding up the purge right like what do they want in return they don't want anything they just want chaos i guess yeah um right if we give you this you want to see who's the mcconnell of the purge yeah yeah and where does he where does he land i i forgot that there was there weren't um i didn't realize that the founding fathers, the new founding fathers of America is a party. I knew that premise that that is exists in the, that it is, you have Democrats, you have Republicans, and then the new founding fathers show up and like, no, no, no, we're wiping the, we're wiping the room like in a maze.
Starting point is 00:48:59 You're all gone. We stand for purge. And it did. Boy, it works too. It fixes. I mean, listen, they, I guess, I guess it works in their world. You know, 364 days of the year. Everybody's happy.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Somehow unemployment goes down specifically. It's not just like... Because there's less people. There is less people. They get a little into the later ones. I remember it's like like oh they they explain the less people part yeah there's other stuff going on well there's a lot of there's like a big seasonal employment in like post purge morning blood sprayer downers yes yes if it does can't
Starting point is 00:49:38 even if you only work one day out of the year uh you end up severed arms in real life they're employing frank grillo just constantly so they have like eliminated unemployment for one guy who works seemingly works a lot so there was a thing going around twitter a while back it's like here's like eight action movies frank grillo did in the last two years that you have never seen yeah yeah yeah it funny. I wonder, is he in any with Bruce Willis? He has to be. Oh yeah. That shows up.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I'm too much of a sidetrack, but Bruce Willis is movies. He works. He works. Like how are we like on a completely, he's one of the biggest movie stars of all time. And he's made probably 20 movies we've never heard of in the last two years. Well,
Starting point is 00:50:22 him, him, Nicholas Cage and Schwarzenegger are no less of stars. They're all as famous as they were and are in hit movies sometimes. Sometimes. But also sometimes they are maybe a lot of times they're in movies that don't exist, essentially. Yeah. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Anyway. I can't think of the last Bruce Willis movie I saw was Glass. Oh, yeah. I don't think I've done one since over the hedge uh oh just just cause no no i'm gonna read a few here uh out of death survive the game nope these are words midnight in the switchgrass. Nope. Breach. Cosmic Sin. Now, these his first movies? These are from 2021.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Oh. We all have nothing to do but watch stuff, and we haven't even heard of. We haven't seen a YouTube video promoting one of these. I thought it was Grillo, but it's a different guy, I think. All right, just a few more. Just indulge me, please. Hard Kill. I've actually heard of that.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Is Tracy Morgan in that? No. No. Who's in that? Selena Gomez. Jesse Metcalf. I don't know. I haven't heard of it.
Starting point is 00:51:35 You just think you've heard of it maybe because that's like, you're like, a movie must have been called Hard Kill by now. Movies have been going for many years. I will say this. He plays Chalmers in Hard Kill. Chalmers. Simpson's name.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Survive the Night. I've never heard of Survive the Night. Trauma Center. Survive the Night is the name of, that's what they called the Purge event one of the years of following Horror Nights. It's all tying together. Wow. That's kind of that
Starting point is 00:52:07 phrase. Oh no, it's for the it's a pretty common phrase. Survival tonight? Yeah. Matt, we should say that at Universe Studios Hollywood's Horror Nights, the purge has been used a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:23 The purge is very popular when you put your brothers up yeah there's been so many purge things there's been a lot since so i went to the first one in 2014 because the first purge movie is 2013 2013 and there was a scare zone simultaneously so i i definitely i mean at this point that was almost 10 years ago. So I vaguely remember that. But I remember when, like, The Purge was, like, the theme of horror, seemingly. And the reason I loved it so much, because I saw the movie, and it was one of those fun things where you kind of get, where you see a movie and you're just like, hmm, I wonder what that would be like, right?
Starting point is 00:53:01 That, as outlandish as it is, is somewhat conceivable. You know, like, Michael Myers is not conceivable. Like, Jason is not conceivable. But, like, that, we can see a world where shit falls apart. Like, this is conceivable, right? Much closer since the movies started coming out. Exactly, right?
Starting point is 00:53:22 And so, like, being in the in horror nights you know before they let you in everybody's just kind of huddled in the front there and so as it's getting time to open at 7 p.m once 7 p.m hits the first thing that hits is those sirens and so you kind of like oh shit like it kind of like puts you in that like and then you hear tonight is the founding like the same message they do in the movie is what they do and then when it's like blessed be the founding fathers then a big explosion goes up the doors open and fucking all the scare actors go at it yeah like it was dope as hell it was dope as hell i i was like oh this is cool as shit that sounds really good it was very fun and now it's time
Starting point is 00:54:12 for it is 7 p.m like in the movie that's nuts yeah it really it really worked and like the people i were with we were freaking out because the thing that too when they do the chainsaws you can actually smell the gas and like it was pretty it was pretty dope so at first it was great now it's just kind of like the go to the well right we have this lying around yeah we have this lying around you know i guess it works so and i still enjoy it it's still fun but now it's pretty old but like orlando over like yeah about 10 8 or 10 years they did they've done two scare zones and one like haunted house out here there's seven different yeah one year there was a scare zone and a maze like in the same year yep yeah they kind of tie like they did i'm trying to think of this year
Starting point is 00:55:05 they had like they sort of the bride of frankenstein lives was kind of tied into the scare zone with like the cirque de soleil performers yeah kind of yeah kind of things were a little muddled this year yeah at horror nights which was fine it It was fine. Yeah. Um, but they, they, there were no like true scare zones. It felt like where like, you know, you're in this section and this is the per section. This is this section. Well,
Starting point is 00:55:34 yes, to be super clear also, cause I haven't been, and I'm still parsing this myself, a scare there, there's mazes in their scare zones and scary zones are like general areas of the park that are not just like thorough fares. Like you're going to walk through here and there are going zones and scary zones are like general areas of the park that are not just like thoroughfares like you're gonna walk through here and there are gonna be chainsaw people or people
Starting point is 00:55:50 jumping out of here whatever so it's it's like it's the equivalent of like they would turn like like main street would be a scare zone sure you know like during the day it's pleasant yeah so like that's how is so it's just like the areas you walk through to get to stuff. Yeah. Or the different lands or whatever are scare zones. And not everything is. There are certain areas of the park that are just a place. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:15 But a lot of the upper lot up there is. They tell you on the map which places usually are scare zones. Knott's has the very robust scare zones this still this year oh good i'm excited for that and that's like too you'll be knots is good because when we were going on the scare zone all of a sudden like fog got pumped like first of all we were like we're the only people out here in this area then fog pumped we walked through the fog and then we're like there are 20 scare actors just for two of us and we just walk through scare actors yeah like that's pretty good yeah and they followed us for uh yeah a little too long but uh a little sometimes if you follow you too and if like after
Starting point is 00:56:59 a while you're like all right bro there's like yeah you're like 20 seconds ago and if you left it would have been perfect but this extra 20 seconds i cannot uh i cannot appreciate yeah um so yeah so like two years ago at um horror nights they had a full did you say you went to a night two years ago no i went i went 2019 i went the year before covid shut down so it was like one of the yes us and ghostbusters because like they had a full scare zone when you would walk down by like transformers on the lower lot you would have to walk from basically transformers to another section on the back lot to get to ghostbusters and get to two other mazes i think and there was a hole in that tunnel yeah and it was a huge scare zone which was really cool and that was purged i think right was that purged yeah was that what that was i should double check that to make sure is that toxic tunnel was that what that
Starting point is 00:57:48 was called isn't there just one thing that there was something called zombies or mutants oh maybe that's what it is toxic uh yeah i gotta check that's where someone accidentally hit me with a lead pipe yeah they can't listen like you know scare actors, when there's not purge, you know, they get close and this stuff. But the purge specific scare actors, I mean, kudos to their training because they are literally trained to push it an inch in front of your face. Oh, wow. This hit me somehow. Like, it hit me and I looked around and no one was, the guy was like 15 feet. And I was like, it's your own purpose, man.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Like, did you really like Tanya Harding style or what was that? I was okay, but I was like, that wasn't supposed to happen. That guy got, like maybe it was like his first night and he's like, I'm going to take a swing and then it flew out of his hand, hit me in the
Starting point is 00:58:40 leg. Maybe you didn't tip somebody. Or I didn't tip at Hornets. Look, I didn't think we were supposed to tip at Horn there a was there a thing outside at the end i am always conscientious of tipping well when you go through a maze you're just supposed to have some like small change small bills in your hands and you're like i'm in the chaos and they'll pick it up after you're gone it's a strip club you don't notice all the money on the ground when you go through the maze? I didn't notice all the money. You're just throwing money at Michael Myers as you go through each maze.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Thanks for the scares. Oh, that was a good one. Thank you. You know what? Just look at the movie. I was wondering why the website facts section said, like, arrive early, make sure to allow time to park, consider express, bring ones.
Starting point is 00:59:24 I think, Jason, I think you are correct it was called the toxic that's the specific one we're talking is toxic tunnel okay but is it so different than the purge i don't really yeah the guy with a pipe and a mask it's where the purge i guess just fits like something universal needed it's just the we need a property that is mayhem and people run around in scary masks. Yeah. But that's what they were doing anyway. And now they can say, oh, yeah, that's a theme. That's a purge is what that is.
Starting point is 00:59:50 And it allows them to have, like, realistic weapons, like lead pipes. Yeah. Right, right. And the chainsaws, like, they are really revving those things up. I'm sure they're not real, but they smell it. Yeah. Well, they take the blade off of the um it's something oh but it's a real that's why it still has the grind is that right yeah uh they yeah they take
Starting point is 01:00:11 the blade off and also my girlfriend used to work at universal she ran into someone she used to work with and he's like oh yeah i'm back in universe i'm working the horror night shift i'm in charge of the chainsaws like there's a guy whose job is just to make sure the chainsaws don't kill people. Make sure they're all gassed up. The blade is on this one. Oh, the blade. Okay. One out of every ten.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Whoops. They take the chain off. Those masks are scary. Those masks are creepy. Like the white, I mean, you know, I'm a black black man so white masks scare me uh but like the the white the the pretty blonde white i'm like that shit is terrifying yeah it's terrifying they are yeah it does all play into that like in the i've kind of only recently seen that first one but since that is like upper crust shitty snooty housing development and that is yeah it's this like sneery like and that main guy who is
Starting point is 01:01:07 like depicted in in various mazes like the the sort of like uh the button-up suits a little patch yeah yeah yeah smiling like yeah yeah i i love this he has uh he's referred to in multiple different ways he's called the polite stranger He's also called the smiling purger. And one wiki page listed him as the appropriate gentleman. Yeah. Isn't the polite stranger the thing where you sit on your hand? You know what I'm talking about? I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Sorry to be lewd on the podcast. You mean and it goes up your butt? And it goes numb? No, no, no. No, and then you you're talking about. Sorry to be lewd on the podcast. You mean and it goes up your butt? And it goes numb? No, no, no. No, no. Scott, you're thinking of the proper gentleman. That's what that's called.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Up your butt is a gentleman. The stranger takes the front. The gentleman takes the back. Okay, okay. Now I know. Yeah, yeah. Now you know. Now you know.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Scott, I'm going to edit yours out because that was lewd. That was gross to talk about that. That's what I thought you were saying. No, no, no, no. Where you sit on your own hand and put it up your butt? You sit on it for so long it eventually goes up your butt? Look, I mean, somebody has for sure done that. I'm sure they have.
Starting point is 01:02:21 People probably do that every day. I'm sure they have. Not what i was talking about uh so what's this gentleman jason was talking about oh that's that's the guy yeah the general smiling guy kind of yeah but like i reading i mean the the fandom page for halloween horror nights it's so funny to see all the scare actor characters listed out of like teeth mask purger yeah big daddy's minions it's weird though because like the reason and like this the last movie that came out this year uh which i was very high for when i went to go see it i was very high when i went to go see it. It was a delight. I enjoyed it. You would not, Jason?
Starting point is 01:03:05 I couldn't. I like what I've seen of these movies. Like, I want to do them all the way through. I really like this world. I think they're very current. It's like a great example of genre movies that you can force topical. You put topical stuff into, and it works, and it feels very modern. The first Purge was very topical.
Starting point is 01:03:26 It involves, like, black lives like that is very top and this last one is very top it might as well be called purge trump is president that's pretty much what it should be they were so psyched when Trump got elected. Now we can put it all in the movies. Now we can put it all in there. Yeah. Because election year does seem like they thought the other result was going to happen. Of course. That was one of those things. And this was like, this was what could have been. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the reason the first, I mean, they use just the first one, really, because the first two through the rest of them gets a little wild. Like, yeah, people are tripping out of their mind. The murders are a lot more brutal. There's a lot more sexual assault. There's a lot of things in that purge world that aren't universal horror night.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yes. Right. But the first one, there's nothing really in that outside of killing people, which we love murder. So like we can kill people. Murder is fine.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Murder is fine. We can put that around all your kids. Murder is cool. So that's easy. So that's why you get a lot of those characters or you get big daddy's minions instead of big daddy because big daddy was fucking people when does big daddy come in what's what movie is i can't remember multiple names they don't they don't name them in the
Starting point is 01:04:57 movies that's just the name i yeah just in like the credits or like fan pages they probably have to go through like when they're like looking at the new movie or something they're trying to apply it and they're like okay let's get the politics out of this let's get the message out of it okay but can we keep all of the murder yes yes we cannot say anything political yeah okay good uh i think one of the reasons scott the first one you're saying like it is a little more tame and all, was it had a $3 million budget, which is very small. Oh, okay. And then it made a box office of $89 million. Geez, wow.
Starting point is 01:05:35 So a grand slam. Wow. So there's a grand slam. Yeah. Because it is like, yeah, it does become an all-in-a-house, one-night movie. Kind of the easiest you can do. It is like, yeah, it's a, it does become a all in a house, like a locked room movie. So the budgets for the following ones kind of went pretty high up, but I think all pretty successful. They keep doing them.
Starting point is 01:05:52 They still keep doing it. I mean, I don't know how this last one did, because, you know, pandemic and everything. And the last one was pretty, I also want to preface this by saying this. I really love the Purge movies. They're very fun. I enjoy them.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Like I said, I have a Purge friend. We go see each enjoy them i have like i said i have a purge friend we go see each movie with uh but like as i say that make no mistake they aren't they not they aren't like great movies yeah they are like it's not like you know they are you know what you're going into like as you sit down in the theater to watch these movies right of course um so i think they just keep making them because they're just fun movies and like you said it's very easy to put a topic on it and although i don't know where they can go after purge forever it does feel like that felt like the end it feels like like a blumhouse it's like come on come on and he's like no and then there was an interview where it was like well i kind of had an idea like there was stuff we didn't use on the tv show so yeah yeah now the the way it and
Starting point is 01:06:50 i don't want to spoil it i mean purge forever is self-explanatory sure it's like is it in a town where they've decided like oh we're just gonna like or is or a whole state? What is the reach of the place where the purge never stops? I guess they don't do very well with... It always stays in just kind of like one part of the town or whatever. I guess the last one does kind of go to different states or whatever. But I would probably say it's a national movement. I see. It's a national movement. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Oh, no. It's a metaphor. It is 100% a fucking metaphor. It's a metaphor. Number one. Yeah. The first one was very much like, what if the future was like this?
Starting point is 01:07:42 Now it's kind of like, damn, y'all been living it what if this is a solution for getting out of yeah it's pretty crazy so i i don't know what they're gonna do in the parks you know because it's very fun it seems like they're gonna keep going to that well i don't know how they can heighten it in the parks it feels like what you're saying is the correct me if i'm wrong it never got better than that first 7 p.m siren with all the scare actors for me no uh and i guess part of that is because like i went to the first one and went to multiple ones after that so maybe if you go for the first time i don't think they're doing that anymore we're like right right you know the open of universal is the open of like
Starting point is 01:08:30 the purge uh they haven't done that in the past couple years because they even did that like three years in a row um but that first time they did that specifically felt super special and it legitimately freaked me out it freaked people out because you were because as you're walking through there is like a hundred scare actors all purge related yeah like just coming at you with chainsaws and bats and swords and like all types of like the weapons that they had in the first purge movie. Yeah. Because it's pretty wild. Yeah, that sounds like, because we've talked about, like, when they're adapting,
Starting point is 01:09:15 either they're a, excuse me, a ride or a themed experience, like, what do you want from it? If you like this movie, what do you want from it? That sounds like the ultimate version of what you want. Yeah. So, until they, if they don't do that, you're just getting okay little tastes of it but it's like you're not like maybe i would assume to with like you know we we've seen this many times nothing uh no property stays dead so maybe it needs like a five-year break i think that's probably best yeah it needs a nice break and then the sirens can blare again in five years at Horror Nights. It is, you know what I equated to? And I not purposefully did this, but it actually works.
Starting point is 01:09:51 For whatever reason today, I decided to watch Final Destination 3. And then it made me think about that franchise, because they put out about four or five of those in a 10-year span, too. And then after a while you're just like okay like we kind of got to stop doing this right yeah where else do we go with this right yeah and and they did they there hasn't been a final destination movie in like 10 years until there's now one being filmed uh so it's good and now it feels like all right we kind of went away from that well for about five ten years it will feel a little more fresh now you said yeah yeah give the audience a
Starting point is 01:10:31 little just you know a few of us have done improv training they say rest the game the game yeah this means to you know put whatever thing you're doing on hold for a few a matter of minutes or seconds seconds yeah uh scream that happened with screen yes they did a bunch of screen movies um they did a tv show on mtv i think kind of only tangentially related and now there's like scream sort of like the um david gordon green halloweens where it's like everyone's back they've aged in real time yeah and there's a new generation also dealing with the killer yeah so which means you know when when when uh the purge comes back ethan hawk will be back in it uh senator charlie rowan uh our favorites all your favorites big daddy big daddy frank will be back but they'll
Starting point is 01:11:22 all be a little wiser a little older a little more gray everybody's got beards poking through the masks i'll say this to the listeners i i don't know that the tv show is as good but if you want something a little less gruesome the two-season purge tv show that was on usa by nature is less brutal than the movies because it was on broadcast cable yeah yeah the movies are i mean like after the first one the first one isn't so bad but like the rest of them are brutal like they are pretty pulpy and schlocky yeah yeah but then that what i could tell because i threw on a second of the tv show and it's just like once you've once you're at like a Canadian TV production value, you kind of like the pulpiness out of it. I felt like maybe it'd be interesting to watch some of the show.
Starting point is 01:12:11 And it's like so much slower. It's not all boring. And then like you just watch a trailer of election year and like, oh, yes, a style like I think is meant to be movies. Probably because it's meant I mean, because it's supposed to simulate a night right which is much easier to simulate in a movie as opposed to over a season uh now i haven't seen the actual tv show so i don't know if they're still doing like i don't know how i'm sure it's probably like they lead up to the night and maybe the aftermath i don't know i i'll probably watch flash forward yeah dreams everything else we can do.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Where the movie is very easily lends itself to say, the start of the movie is the beginning of the purge, and the end of the movie is the end. Or the start of the movie is the beginning, and the end of the movie is the end. That's it. That's it. It's pretty tight.
Starting point is 01:12:59 You have a siren that begins your movie, and a siren that ends your movie yeah the movie has commenced should i add the siren at the start of the episode i think you should a lot of people i think you should yeah all right i'll do it yeah yeah but also you should leave you asking that question into the episode so people can hear that you're like ah pull behind the curtain yes and the intro has to be oh that's to be the intro oh yeah i wrote it already oh did you great oh wow scott wrote the grades i love it you'll have heard it already yeah yeah oh the creative process i'd be remiss if we didn't mention uh one of the more infamous halloween horror
Starting point is 01:13:46 nights purge uh a little halloween horror nights whoopsie that happened a few years ago yes um yeah i i found this on las but it was on uh most news websites at the time yep so uh in one of the purge movies they they recreated this in the park in one of the scare zones where an auctioneer is auctioning off victims for purgers to then purge uh and the auctioneers are very uh crass and bawdy of course and um uh a this is from the laist a trio of 13 year old girls and their mothers are not very happy about a Universal Halloween Horror Nights actor
Starting point is 01:14:27 who referred to the girls as hookers and sluts. During a press conference yesterday, two of the girls and their mothers, along with feminist lawyer Gloria Alred, said the incident occurred
Starting point is 01:14:40 while they were visiting a hut based on the Purge anarchy, according to the Hollywood Reporter. So, if you are at a press conference if there is a press conference being called with uh a number of people and gloria alred and it is about you you fucked up yeah that's a person i'd like to never say my name listen i will say that's one thing I do appreciate about Horror Nights.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Fright Fest is probably the first, like, big entity of, like, horror that I went to as a teenager. And I don't remember them being able to curse and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Obviously, and not cursing at Disney, it's not even a real Halloween. But, like, the... Yeah, what is? We've never even talked about it. Who cares, man? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:25 He's boogie very not so scary. I will never pay for that in my life. Boo and I love Disney. I will never pay for that. Boo bash. Yeah, boo bash. Boo bash? Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:15:42 But they like could get crass. I remember chucky like cursing people out one year yeah oh yeah and you know i we mentioned it already it is on game for purgers to say stuff like that because again all crime is legal for 12 hours so they're not really thinking about a decorum and nothing about decorum at all yeah there's a lot of stuff in those movies that it's like oh we can't really even with the horror night standards we can't uh we can't really do this yeah you should probably like id everybody make how old are they all right what am i allowed okay there's an age limit i thought it was i didn't think it was as young as 13 but maybe i think is. I think you can go younger. I saw a very young child going to the house in front of me with father or parent. Some of them look very excited to be there.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Well, that's when I'm like this the whole time, and I'm like, this child appears to be not phased at all by any of this. Yeah. I don't know if it says more about me That if I would have heard that Live in the park I would have lost my mind laughing I mean it's absurd Because I think
Starting point is 01:16:52 I mean like I think I mean maybe you have to just kind of say On the ticket Wish nobody reads Like hey this is gonna be You're gonna get some profanity here You're gonna get some of theseity here you're gonna get some of
Starting point is 01:17:05 these things right this is this is pg-13 or you know at high pg-13 this is tv-14 well yeah um the problem is no one reads the ticket well i mean yes the problem that's exactly it nobody reads the ticket but like you said it makes sense that they would say wild shit. I mean, maybe don't call a person a hooker and a slut. Yeah. But if I would have heard that, I wouldn't have thought it was as jarring. Well, if I like, because on the regular day, they have the New York street performers who are like, Hey, look at this guy or whatever. Like if one of those guys called me a dickhead,
Starting point is 01:17:47 I would have loved it. Yeah. Look at this guy. Look at this dickhead right here. And I'd be like, Whoa, what? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:53 The star way called you the, the evil star way. Oh, you know about this, that the escalator turns, uh, yes. Mean.
Starting point is 01:18:02 It talks about you and like like not like it's not life specific but it does get mean what's the thing about because they reference drugs they i was on it they do not mention weed anymore they mentioned it multiple years in a row at least not in the i was doing the whole thing you like a couple years ago when wherever we did it it was like in like no smoking on the starway and that goes for weed yep i remember that no much so funny it was great i again i was like whoa weed in universal they said weed yeah they did not say weed this time when i was on the starway and i was crestfallen i was so upset and i mentioned it to tim chang who i was with and i was like tim. I was so upset. And I mentioned it to Tim Chang who I was with and I was like, Tim, they usually say weed.
Starting point is 01:18:47 They talk about weed and he goes, what? He goes, it's legal. Oh, yeah. That kind of hurts the con. Yeah, I guess it's not such a big... No weed! Narc! Yeah. Please hold on to the handrail. That means you, hookers.
Starting point is 01:19:06 I mean, look, I guess if you're going to call anybody a hooker, call everybody a hooker. Don't just single out the 13-year-old. That's safer. Don't single out a 13-year-old. And it specifies that like the actors are like, come here, come here. Hey, you hooker. And also, at least just go because we're pro-sex work.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Go, and that's a good thing. And we're fine with that. Yeah. Right. It should be legal outside the 12 hour, but you have to be 18. Right. We met mom and we say, go mom. To be a working mother.
Starting point is 01:19:36 You get to purge. Instead of be purged, you get to purge. Get it out of your system. Yeah. I can see why mom was mad. I laughed. I'm not going to lie. I laughed. It was funny. But I can see why mom was mad 100%. Well, and the moms, they
Starting point is 01:19:52 didn't immediately call Gloria Alra. They tried to complain through email and phone calls. We're getting no response. And one of them's like, well, we could try. The ultimate report. I know someone we could reach out to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Did they settle? What happened? I don't, I think it was probably just like an apology or whatever. Alan only got an apology? Like in the way they just stopped doing Bill and Ted. They might have stopped like doing the auction or like just told the actors like, all right, dial it back, dial it back. They got to go back with a megaphone and call the auctioneer a hooker and a slut.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And then it was even revenge. What were they? I was going to say, are they like donkey apologized or something, another character? Can you imagine them specifically calling Eddie, you busy? So we need you to voice something for us real quick. It's really going to help us out of a bind. It's really going to help us out of a bind.
Starting point is 01:20:45 It's really going to help us out of a bind. I make one movie every five years. You think I'm going to come up with this? Right. This will count toward your contract, okay? This is one movie. It's a whole movie. It's a whole movie just to do Donkey in the Park one day.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Well, actually, their contracts for the first Shrek movie did specify. That's how they ended up being the actual voices in Shrek 4D. It specified they had to do any theme park attractions. And then, of course, it was another massive hit that, like, of course, they renegotiated for more money as they kept making Shrek movies. Hey, we haven't said officially. R&P Shrek 4D in Orlando. Do you know Shrek 4D is going to run? I just saw that.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Yeah. I just saw they're closing it down uh man look i don't know what they're gonna put in there but i did like shrek i did like shrek listen i'm a fan of a show i love a show at a theme park it's a chance to rest it's a chance to get some ac yeah um it's a chance to actually you know we're we're performers it's a chance to actually i you know we're we're performers it's a chance to see some performances or see like some content i love i love a good show so i really enjoyed the strike 4d it was cool yeah they put it in there yeah yeah they they got rid of it out here already um but yeah the last is it do we know this strike 40 will be somewhere around the world still right oh there's got to be a few places still showing it. It's in that giant castle.
Starting point is 01:22:06 It's in a much better venue in one of the Asian parks. I don't remember which one. Right. Japan? I think that's the only other Universal, isn't it? No, there are. There's a couple. There's a couple?
Starting point is 01:22:17 Beijing? Beijing? Oh, really? Just open Singapore. What's the other one? Singapore. Singapore. Is there Japan?
Starting point is 01:22:23 Am I wrong? No, there is. There's Universal. Oh, okay. In Kyoto. Okay. No, one? Singapore. Singapore. Is there Japan? Am I wrong? No, there is. There's Universal. Oh, okay. In Kyoto. Okay. No, it's Osaka. Osaka.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Osaka? Yeah. Okay. That's interesting. That's cool. All right. As long as Shrek. Shrek will be somewhere in the world still.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Shrek will be somewhere in the world. He's big in Japan. Yeah. He's got great music, Curtis. Yeah. I think that's one thing I really love about Horror Nights. While I'll keep going and I'll complain how long the lines are or shell out $200 to get Express.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Of course. Absolutely asinine how much it is. But I do like that. Unlike other horror-based things, they are taking properties that you know and then you can be a little bit more adult sure like of a better word right sure um you know they could take it too far which they obviously did uh but they can also have chucky running around uh in this i mean i think they're
Starting point is 01:23:21 a kid or it's a short actor but it's like somebody this like three feet tall. That's how they do Chucky, really? It's somebody like three feet tall, like running around with a knife, getting scares on. And it is funny, but it also kind of freaks you out because you just like see this thing coming at your kneecaps. Oh, yeah. They're all the old house of horrors. I think I said this.
Starting point is 01:23:44 The first haunted house i had gone into in years was like six years ago and they had a guy playing chucky they had someone playing chucky and at first they made them look like a robot like with some like jerky movements and then chucky just came to life and threw a knife in my friend's throat oh and i was really freaked because i had not been in a haunted house in years ever maybe a very mild one when I was like little probably yeah so it's what you were saying though about theme parks not being for kids because then it finally feels a little bit more like now you have options for something that's a little bit more adult. Because like Universal Disney, I have to cater to tiny children and families.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Of course. We get it. Makes sense. I don't want everything to be like murderous and bawdy. But. I like magic. Of course. We all love magic.
Starting point is 01:24:37 You equate murder and bawdiness also. Those are two equal things for me. The two worst sins. Sex and death. Exactly. Yeah. Those are two equal things for me The two worst sins Sex and death Exactly yeah And I want a little time for both of them In my parks
Starting point is 01:24:52 But it's just a certain There's a time and a place for it So yeah you get that with Horror Nights Yeah You do I mean I remember I don't know my first Horror Nights They literally had Go-go dancers like in cages Yeah, you do. I mean, I remember, I don't know, my first Horror Nights, they literally had go-go dancers, like, in cages down in that area.
Starting point is 01:25:12 This is when The Walking Dead was very popular, too. So it was the first year they had The Walking Dead maze. And, like, down there in that area where, like, New York is near or something like that, they had, like, cage dancers. And, like, I'm like, this is wild. This is wild. Yes, that will only usually barely ever dance on the line. Because that's the whole, isn't,
Starting point is 01:25:34 it was forever ago that we talked about the horror water world, slaughter world. Yes. But isn't there kind of like a leather babe in it, basically? Like what was the, I don't remember the specifics. They can find a way to work in some sort of like a leather babe in it, basically. What was the... I don't remember the specifics. They can find a way to work in some sort of, like, bawdy burlesque to any franchise at our nights. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:54 They can. Uh-huh. They can. Chucky's already got the bride, so that's to give in that one. I don't quite know how they would have done it for Ghostbusters or Us, and the licensing
Starting point is 01:26:06 they might not have been allowed. Us is hard. Us is hard. Ghostbusters, I don't know. Yeah, probably not. Dana, I guess Gozer. Gozer, yeah. Dancing Gozers. We'll just recreate the Dan Aykroyd scene in the first.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Just gotta say just have a whole bunch of people going and unbuckling people's pants instead of a room full of mannequins and one of the move one of these ghosts starts going to town on the ackroyd statue there's
Starting point is 01:26:40 five ackroyd statues in this room yeah they don't even do it to the guests it's just a dan ackroyd statues in this room. Yeah, they don't even do it to the guests. It's just a Dan Ackroyd statue. A statue doesn't move. But his eyes do. That's right.
Starting point is 01:26:58 That's the only thing his eyes just keep rolling. A recording of his actual voice coming. That's how you assume the noise he makes. just keep rolling a recording a recording of his actual voice coming ah ah as I assume the noise he makes
Starting point is 01:27:09 probably a crystal a crystalline vodka endorsement in between you think accurate sounds like oh
Starting point is 01:27:15 that would that would actually be very funny yeah I was gonna ask you probably wrapping up soon but what is there a thing from
Starting point is 01:27:22 like if you were envisioning Purge yeah what would you do would it be a were envisioning purge yeah what would you do would it be a ride would it be a walk what would it be so at are we keeping this in horror nights can we take it can be anywhere you want it could be a whole theme park so if i was if i was to do it now that now that you know universal has uh limitations right yeah of course and and i also know an hour ago i said man i would never do the shit where they
Starting point is 01:27:45 like and touch you and do all this but you know i'm a hypocrite so like that's the type of like purge that i would you like purge i would do like sign the waiver yeah get the get the waiver put it in the area and make it a night like sure make it an overnight because they have that they have an overnight thing was designed to scare you um so making an overnight make you feel like you are fighting for your life uh and you get to hide places and see if people catch you and like if you get caught so there's so i would make a game out of it if you get caught and you get killed then you're out you know and then you go to like then you go to like just just, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:28:25 the holding area where now you can just relax for the rest of the night and drink and have fun or do whatever. But I would want it to be something where you can feel a little sense of the danger. You can feel people actually chasing you. Somebody can put their hands on you, which I know sounds daunting and crazy, but like... But that's what you're there for like that's what you're there for that's what
Starting point is 01:28:46 you're there for right um you you might get messy you know what i'm saying uh so i would do something in that realm uh they can lock you in a room yeah like shit like that where or things like that i guess i should ask if i could curse i'm so so sorry. Oh, no. We're good. Hey, just like Horror Nights. Yeah, just like... Each of their team. H's and S's. But only in October.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Only in October. So I think that would be my ideal thing because I think the fun... And then it starts exactly how it starts. 7 p.m. The sirens go off. We hear it. And you have to disperse. if you've ever been asleep no more i have not but i've heard yes sleep no more is a five-story immersive theater
Starting point is 01:29:33 where you can go anywhere and things like that i would make it something similar to that uh so i don't know if i would do it outdoors because that would be indoors and it would be something similar to that where you can go anywhere in this building. People can grab you so you can hide. You could do what you got to do and try to strategize surviving the night, which is for those of you who forgot a Bruce Willis movie. I got to double check. 2021.
Starting point is 01:30:04 It came out an hour ago. It came out an hour ago an hour ago exclusive to 2b survive the night too yeah already so yeah that would be my i think that would be my ideal thing i would i would want to make it an immersive thing where you truly feel like yeah to survive tonight um gamifying it is interesting definitely like making it i don't know how you would figure that out maybe you could even have people reintroduced it's a point thing even i don't know something like that yeah yeah yeah because i guess if you get killed in the first five minutes yeah you would be salty uh sure but so maybe like if you get killed you you get to and then obviously the actors And then obviously the actors will rotate.
Starting point is 01:30:46 The scare actors will rotate. You become a... You could become one of the bad guys. Maybe you can become a purger. That might get dangerous. We can't do this completely flesh this out on Mike. We have to sit and really crack this somewhere else. But I think that there's a foundation there for something like that.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think there was... Maybe it was 2019 or it was gonna happen in 2020 and it got canceled but there was going to be an overnight kind of not officially camp crystal lake yes sort of thing about right thought about doing it yeah because you could buy different levels of ticket where they'd be like oh you would roast you know do s'mores it would be like a camp you would have
Starting point is 01:31:26 a tent there would be s'mores but like certain zones like and you will go to sleep in your tent and then a monster will pull you out of your like you will go to sleep and you will be hooking up my ghoulies and scaries like Yeah. Yeah. You still try to sleep? How could you go to bed knowing it was, oh, boy. I mean, like, the thing with those is mental, right? Yeah. Like, in your heart of hearts or deep in the recesses of your brain, you know they're not going to kill you.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Yeah. Right. Yes. Yes. But, like, there's an element of that where like it gets to a point where you start questioning like am i in danger here or this doesn't i don't like the way this feels something can go wrong yeah i could be the first accident of this event or something like that, right?
Starting point is 01:32:25 Which I was thinking, I mean, maybe we were talking about needing to put the franchise aside and bring it back. What if the way it comes back is there is a successful, it's a movie where the Purge movies exist in the world of the movie. And this scenario, now there's a thing where you can do a fake Purge night, but then it becomes, thanks to a bunch of narrative wills. Yeah, yeah, but it's real like an adaptation sort of meta yeah yeah the fake purge becomes a real purge that's fun that's good yeah do that with the movie this is the end uh where you remember the movie where i changed franco and seth rogan and all those guys were playing themselves. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:06 They were going to do a sequel to that movie. And the sequel was going to start with them at the premiere of This Is The End. Whoa. And basically just restart the whole concept of the movie. Oh, really? I heard that. So the sequel was going to start with them. Like, one was a movie.
Starting point is 01:33:22 But two was really happening. Wow. And they didn't. Obviously, but two was really happening. Wow. And they didn't, obviously they didn't do that. But I read like that was like the plan for what that was supposed to be. We've got that a little bit. There's something like that in another one of the great horror franchises, somehow untouched by Halloween Horror Nights, The Human Centipede, where in the second one, it's I think like a guy who sees the movie and is obsessed
Starting point is 01:33:45 with it and then he gets the actress from the movie to be in his right human centipede um i don't know why universal is not people like scary they want to hire up scary why not have a 40 person human centipede you're demanding that yeah i think it would be fun get a centipede i think it would be fun yeah yeah well if theyede. I think it would be fun. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if they bring it. Give them breaks to give them a chance to breathe. Yeah. They make another movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:09 They just gotta make another movie, right? There's been a couple of years since they've made one of those. And you just, you shop the title and you do what they do with movies. You just call it centipede. But everyone knows. Oh, good. Yeah. And then you play the human centipede theme just on a single piano key.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Yes. Can I pitch this too? Yeah. Yeah, of course. So I pitched what I would do for The Purge. That's me. Yeah. For Universal, if they're going to keep bringing The Purge in, which this is a very easy franchise
Starting point is 01:34:37 for them to marry to Horror Nights. I get that. I get it. And it's fun. I'm not acting like it's so boring now where it's like, this has got to go. It's still very fun, especially if you're not into the movies or it's your first time going. Like, they get you. I think what they should do, because we know Disney is listening, but we also know Universal is listening.
Starting point is 01:34:55 We do know that. NBC. NBC, I know y'all hear this. I think what they should do is allow the purge scare actors to go loose on the other scare actors in the park. Like, let's see, let's see, let's see, like, somebody from the purge grab Chucky and beat the
Starting point is 01:35:13 shit out of him. And, like, see a shit, and, like, you sitting there watching, like, are you seeing what I'm seeing? Like, that would be fun, like, because, like like that is the world right like the purge is supposed to be real and all these other things are moving into these like let the purge free let them like go do some stuff yeah i'm walking line in the month let them
Starting point is 01:35:35 go into the rides yeah like let them free i think that's the only phase that's the only logical thing they can do at universal right you've learned i think you're taking what you learned from that first fright fest yeah line and applying it to the actually is yeah defying again from right defying expectations for the for the this is actually i mean that's actually very good i think it would be fun that's a natural heightening of that magic the jasmine uh with you and like which is just a magic trick it's playing with your expectations and something totally shocking happens and it's like yeah and it would still mess with us and things like that too like nobody's off limits for them uh and obviously
Starting point is 01:36:16 the people who are also actors those are planned events but for people watching they don't know that right i think it would be dope i think that's their i think that's their next step if they want to keep it going it's a great idea let's all let them go like kill the the indominus rex and let them go to the jurassic world putting arrows in their throat yeah this is so fun this is a blast thank you so much for being here For the founding fathers! This is so fun. This is a blast. Thank you so much for being here.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Man, this is a pleasure. Jekyll's Nearly Survived podcast, the Hauntcast, the Fright. Oh, almost through it. A perilous one, a scary one, a bawdy one, and thanks for bringing us this topic. Let's exit through the... We haven't horrified the gift shop. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:37:04 The gift shop? Thank you, Phil, a few. Perfect. Let's exitified the gift shop yeah you're right um the gift chop the let's say thank you for a few perfect let's exit through the gift shop is there anything that you would like to plug oh thanks to plug um yeah you know i think uh it's really hard because like i've been doing a lot of vo things like i said so come out in 2023 so i i think the easiest way to say for things that i'm not allowed to talk about yet is social media once things pop then i'll like let people know but there's a video game coming out that i might be in there's a couple there's a feature that I might be in soon and I might I am I record and there are things coming
Starting point is 01:37:49 out that that that are that are going to be viewable and I'm able to watch so I'm excited for some future stuff nice do you want to plug your social like yeah yeah at Jackie's nail on everything okay and also in these streets
Starting point is 01:38:06 nice so you can always find me in these streets in burbank hey well you can find us on everything as well at podcast the ride merch is available in our t public store and for three bonus episodes every month, then this month, it is HauntCast the Fright, the Cemetery Gate at patreon.com slash podcast the ride. Super fun. The Purge episode is now complete. Your HauntCast
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