Podcast: The Ride - The Teacups

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

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Forever Dog. Warning, the following podcast may contain incredible anniversary ribbons, colander nightmares, wrist punishing rides, and big coat tea smuggling. We return to the Disneyland class of 55 for an episode about the teacups. Hey, it's a very merry Podcast The Ride, where conversation goes round and round in circles and leaves you feeling a little bit nauseous. I'm Scott Gairdner, joined by Jason Sheridan. Let's do that order. And occasionally we put in a guard, so it's harder to go round and round.

We do? Eh, not that often. What does that mean metaphorically? In the metaphor of the show. I haven't quite figured that out yet. One of the guards is like one of Jason's comments that calms the listener's stomach down from feeling too upset by the other discussions.

No, mine are the chaos comments. So I don't know. You never know. This guy might bring up Dr. Odyssey for 10 minutes. You never know the chaos that comes. Mike Carlson, hey there. I'm here, yeah. I just, you know, who knows?

I think every different type of, like any person could be allergic to any one of us at any time. You don't know. As far as allergic or just make we could they could feel motion sickness from the allergic though you say well allergic in the sense to the type of conversation one of us would have often you know what i'm saying but we're all nice that has nothing to do with it though i'm just saying that you are nice but i'm just saying once in a while maybe the discussion somebody listening, I don't want to hear about this old time.

I don't want to hear about some old Starz estate sale. I don't want to hear about this. And they go, I'm turning this off. Maybe they don't puke, but they do feel, oh, I'm angry at Jason. But the person might still know that you're nice. I guess I have noticed something like this at even the mere mention of Bugmane. That's true. That is a little familiar to me.

That even saying these two words that are just seven letters, that are seven letters in the English language that we've always used and will continue to use. Yes. Somehow these letters have this power to just drive people mad. Everyone has- As it were. Right? Everyone has their own different set of words and topics that they might say,

oh, it makes me angry. Like people will hear me and I'll be like, I want to talk about Long December by the Counting Crows. And they'll be like, oh, no more and turn it right off. Well, what you're referring to is me. You're referring to one of your co-hosts. I wasn't going to say it, but you're allergic to a lot of the stuff Jason and I say on a regular basis.

I know. I just want to talk about Hedy Lamarr's scientific discoveries that would go on to form the basis of Wi-Fi and radar. Well, and I just want to talk about the song Johnny Depp wrote about Hedy Lamarr. So that's a different thing, too. So we both are in the same zone. Still the Johnny Depp album. Still, yeah. It's been a while. that's a different thing too so we both are in the same zone still the johnny depp album what if i were to tell you i did not intend to set you up for that i was just there was no doubt in my mind you did not mean to say that was pure heady on that was yeah i'm all in on heady no i

wasn't looking i didn't think that was a lob you were lobbing that thing up for me to smash well i just i don't like the idea of allergy, because that seems- That seems, sure. I hear you. It's a bit of an aggressive term. You're allergic to a host. I don't know. There's no pill that we can prescribe that's going to fix that.

What's the weaker? Aversion? Food aversion? Food averse? You're not fully allergic, but it sometimes doesn't sit well with you. Is that the term? I don't know. I guess it doesn't sit well with you is this thing you say about food a lot, I feel like.

So that might be your term. Oh, well, you know, teach their own. You'll say something doesn't sit well with me. I don't do well. I do remain confused with how that Taco Bell made you numb. It was Chipotle. It was Chipotle. Oh, no, no.

No, no, no. Taco Bell made him numb. Excuse me. I was not going to call him numb. There's too many things lately that he said hurt him. That Chipotle made me bloated. For two days. Yeah, I felt bad.

Two straight days of bloating from Chipotle, and then Taco Bell made you numb. Two days is a long time. That is wild. It was pretty bad. Huh. Huh. Could you see the bloating, or you felt bloated? I felt bloated.

You felt pregnant. You wondered if you were pregnant. I was pregnant with a burrito bowl. A burrito. I like the way you said that. Burrito. Yeah. It was just the bowl.

The bowl made you bloated? Well, it was the bowl and we, you know, I think you can get the tortilla on the side. Oh, okay. And that was just really gummy. And remember, we had gotten the incorrect order and they're just like, just keep it. And we're like, this is not. Well, I don't remember that. This is good.

Surely you do. And remember from the now classic tale. But we, yeah, we didn't really dig into it much because our correct order that came was so unpleasant. Well, look at the, my opening joke has just proven, this is what I was saying, is that the conversation ends up making you a little bit nauseous because we often describe being a little bit nauseous.

So yeah, it all ended up in the right place. It all went round and round back to where we started. Literal nausea. Which I guess takes us right back to the opening and to the point of today's episode, which is the teacups. The goddamn teacups. Wow. It's Podcast the Ride is doing the teacups.

This is a big deal. Year eight here. Disneyland teacups, I mean. Are you putting up a border where we can't talk about the other teacups? When are we ever going to do the other teacups? I'm leaving it open. This is what I'm allergic to, is this kind of thing. It's class of 55.

Once again, you're on Podcast to Ride and the others weren't built. The others weren't built in 55. Well, here, it's class of 55! Yeah! It's really up to me when we cut that off.

I'll go longer. You'd be fine to just play the entire. And get sued by the man himself. You know, he's sort of, I got curious knowing that I was going to play that, what Hagar's been up to lately recording wise. Because that seemed like something that could be up your alley. The great Sammy Hagar, of course, the red rocker. Why is he called that? Because he has red i don't think not really no good question i don't know um no blonde hair right uh sunburn it could be from sunburn did he wear red a lot i feel like

in that music video jumpsuit yeah um anyway i got curious what he was what he's been up to like what are the last couple records? He has a band now called Sammy Hagar and the Circle. Oh, yeah. I know the Circle. You know the Circle. Okay. Well, do you know they're, this is sort of in the Johnny Depp area,

is like an all-covers album that he put out called Lockdown 2020 that is entirely covers of like won't get fooled again and heroes heroes i believe also covered by johnny tip frequently yeah of course uh but uh but with one original uh called funky feng shui so at some point i might i don't know if it's going to be too confusing to, in the class of 55, drop, start inserting just a little taste of funky feng shui. Oh, yeah. I think you can. It might be a lot for the listeners to connect the dots down the road. He's got a band, too, like Sammy Hagar and the Wabos or something.

He also, I believe, is another one. And then he's also got a slightly different band for his Van Halen tribute. I he was in van halen but he has a van halen tribute concert and i think he replaced a guitarist with like joe satriani but it's the same band as the circle with like jason bonham john bonham's son on drums and then michael anthony i think plays bass from van halen in the circle and in the van Halen tribute as well. He's got a lot of things, a lot of irons in the fire. Oh, but here I'm looking at the website of Sammy and the Wabos, which has a female member. And the photo that they-

Well, I didn't say anything about the Wabo membership. Well, Mona Nodder seems to be in Sammy and the Wabos. Okay. And they introduce her. This is all of our introduction, I guess, to Sammy and the Wabos is that there's a group, all the band is there, but it's the female member who's standing up at a urinal. And Sammy and the other guys are going, what the hell? Okay. What's all this then?

Excuse me, the girl is? I'm just gonna give a sammy credit this is some sort of progressive statement he's making that's what i'm gonna hope that what it is yeah yeah and then how do you then how do you calculate into that the drummer who is not paying attention to the situation in any way uh i don't know of the wobbles are responsive to this female urinal situation he thought this was a test photo and then they ended up using it. Yeah. It was just everyone else looked better, so they wanted to just go with that one. I think it works that David's just staring off.

Yeah. I think it's interesting. Okay. It shows he marches to the beat of his own drum, and he is the drummer, which is what you want. That's perfect. Anyway, we're doing a great job of staying on topic with this. With the class of 55.

Yes, this is an opening day Disneyland attraction, July 17th, 1955. And that's when we're going to be covering opening day attractions throughout the year. Opening day madness and nonsense as Disneyland celebrates its 70th anniversary. And it's also

a good excuse, I think, to check in here and there on Disneyland's 70th anniversary, which has not officially begun yet. But what we are starting to get is little glimmers of information about what this celebration is going to entail. That's something that's happened since the last class of 55 that we did, which was Sleeping Beauty Castle. uh back then we were just speculating we were flying blind now we know some of what disney is offering did you guys see any of this i'm sure the announcements of what's coming uh you know what i probably have but i i'm i'm wondering what the ones you're gonna say are um well i mean there's so many that I don't even know where to begin. Well, like the refurbishment of the Carthay Circle is underway. Oh, that's not even one of them.

That's not what you're talking about. Okay. So there's sort of art of what it will look like with sort of different trim around it. They're repainting it. Well, it's not a Disneyland anniversary if it's not like hanging new ribbons around. That's what a lot of their anniversary stuff is. New ribbons, a little bit different paint. Colors.

They've never done the shade of maroon on the castle before. Right. Slightly different color t-shirts and sweatshirts. Yes. And popcorn buckets that they would have done anyway. Well, yeah, I think that is, that's definitely one that I noticed was new outfits for the characters. Did I pull this?

Have you seen the new outfits? Oh, yeah. These have been out for a long time. These are the same ones you're talking about. Okay. Are you talking about Mickey with his not symmetrical coat? Yes, yes, yes.

That's been out. His coat that hangs down longer on one side. Yes, that's been out for months actually so i hate to i hate to make you feel bad that you've missed something important but that's been out since early in the year is mickey doing half tuck now it's not a tuck it's a long here jason do you not see the coat either i didn't know about i don't know the coat either look at this coat mickey on the right side the coat goes down longer than on the left and he's not tucking the left he just has a like a symmetrical coat that looks like a manufacturing error more than

anything than fashion or style some sort of style um he's okay i was gonna say he's kind of got like um great like blue that that turns into purple pants. He's got big, bright yellow shoes, but they're more like sneakers than his normal big, solid yellow shoes. Well, here's what I think about what he's wearing, and I don't know if you've seen the group of what everybody is wearing. I have, yes.

I think this is all, I think they're aiming for you with all this. I think this is all shit you would want to wear. Very colorful. I would like to wear all of this. Yes, I agree. I mean, it's a little bit too much for me just to wear to Ralph's, maybe. You don't want sparkly swirls on your pants and bright yellow shoes.

And bedazzled berets, which is what Donald seems to be wearing. Yeah, Donald. So Donald still has the no pants, which I like. But it has a very like- Which I also wouldn't recommend for going to rounds. No. And Pluto just has a sort of stylish collar in the same style.

I like Donald's shirt. And then Minnie has a really, Minnie probably looks the coolest of all of them because it just, you would wear that in a normal non-anniversary year, I think too. In what photo would you not say Minnie looks the coolest? Well, that's true. of that because it just you would wear that in a normal non-anniversary year i think too in what in what photo would you not say minnie looks the coolest well that's true but i'm just saying

specifically here this one like even maybe kind of blends in it's the same style as the rest of them but it almost kind of blends in it is not as flashy as the others i guess um but yes i would wear i would love to wear one of these pieces just just Mickey's shirt, just Mickey's pants. But would you, if you wore, well, you didn't put in your list the asymmetrical coat. Would you wear the asymmetrical coat? It depends how much it costs. Because I don't want to spend like a hundred, north of a hundred on an asymmetrical coat that I'm only going to wear once in a while. What if you're, you know,

sometimes you go to events where fashion is specified. This is a black tie event. What if you get invited to an asymmetrical coat event? Oh, of course I would wear that Mickey's asymmetrical coat. Yeah. Cut to a lot of people with nice coats. Like, oh shit, I didn't realize. And I got to be there in an hour.

All right snip snip and they just have to like take a giant wedge out of their own jacket well yeah you don't want to stand out in a bad way um yeah no 30 35 dollars old navy version of this coat i'm in i think okay and then and then yes i would wear only at specific events now i'm interested in the fact that there's a practical there's a a zipper up near Mickey's head. Like, why does Mickey need a pocket on his 70th anniversary wardrobe? It's just interesting to me because, like,

none of the other characters have any pockets, literal pockets, as far as I can tell. Yeah. And then he has a zippered pocket up by his head. Lighter joints. I mean, that's getting high. Yeah, is that a true? The pills of ecstasy?

Sparking up. 70th. 70 pills in here. Molly. One for each. With all my friends. Yeah. I don't know.

It's an interesting style choice. I've worked my ass off for 70 years. You're telling me I can't enjoy a little E for 70? I got cash and Molly in here. Got $500 in bills. Non-sequential bills. They're dirty. They've been washed.

You know? I guess it could have a cell phone in there, I suppose. It doesn't look like anything's in there from the look of it. It just looks kind of flat.

Now, but you know, you'd want to have the option. Yeah. But it's and the zipper is a regular zipper too it's not like a little lightning bolt or a little sun or moon you know what i mean if it was a the the spirit of this feels very much colorful but then also there's a lot of stars and moons yeah on the and the design you would think that they would want to make the zipper very specific as well. We've made it 70 years. American history. We're an American institution. And you, the guests, multiple generations have passed through these gates.

And you've passed it on to your children and their children and their children. And to say thank you, we just want to tell you, Mickey has a zipper now. Mommy, mommy. Mickey's got an affectation zipper. Mickey's got a zipper. It's not really practical. It's just visual. He's got a superfluous zipper, Mommy. Mickey's got an affectation zipper. Mickey's got a zipper. It's not really practical. It's just visual. He's got a superfluous zipper, Mommy.

There's no need for it. I love this. Happy 70th. Happy 70th. Mommy, let's go watch the Walt animatronic again. Let's go to Walter's office like our candles. So, yeah, I like the office. This is exciting stuff for you how do we feel about i like that i

like this degree of announcement of disney announce it not just announcing that there will be a song not saying here's the song right they have announced celebrate happy a new song performed by the jonas brothers right we will be getting stay on alert everyone j alert the jonas brothers will be striking any day now with a new song to help you celebrate happy right so that's it yes so we already knew about the new verse as far as uh it's a small world is concerned i need a little more explanation so you're gonna leave it there yes the new verse yes i'm a Going to leave it there Yes the new verse Yes

I'm a little slow today Sorry But yes the new verse And it's a small world I've heard that Small world is now delayed They're installing Some new figures

But they're also Installing the new verse Okay So that's going to Take a few more weeks I read How long does it Take to install a verse

I don't know But it's been delayed The new verse Has been delayed I think into May now. I think it was going to be open maybe this month, actually. Okay.

So much is retrofitted there. They have to figure out how to flip an MP3 to a WAV file. That's probably right. Something close to that is, I mean, probably it's like, it's running on a record album, I think, probably.

Well, no, they're up to Windows ME. Oh, you think so? If you recall that one. Yeah, probably. Well, no, they're up to Windows, if you recall that one. Yeah, yeah. So, yes. There's a lot of stuff going on. New verses, new clothing. What else? And just to be clear, because I looked up,

does the song exist? Did they even release a preview of the song, and they did not. But what's confusing is Jonas Brothers already put out a song called Celebrate a couple years ago. So Celebrate is not Celebrate Happy. Oh, wow. Let's be clear. Okay.

That's a thin slice for them to have to try to reinvent what celebrating means as far as Jonas Brothers. So it's not like Candle in the Wind or something, just reusing the song. No, I don't think so. Yeah, okay. Hopefully happier than that. If it's about celebrating, yeah. Hopefully, yeah. Yeah, different. Hopefully happier than that. If it's about celebrating.

Yeah, different. Pelton's doing a new version for Walt. What's that? He's doing a new- He's doing Candle in the Wind for Walt. Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, Candle in the Wind. I didn't hear. He's just-

It's a little bit late. His performance on the, what was it? The Christmas Parade. Everyone was like, that was really good. It was pretty good. His kids got something. Yeah. Got anything in the pocket?

Mm-hmm. Could you write a song about a man who died 70 years ago? Could you rewrite a song? You should really. Yeah, he should do more. There's a lot of people. There's a lot of people who died. A lot of legends.

And he's only written about two. Yeah, come on. Lazy. Lazy. There's a, we're getting a special rendition of Rainbow Connection for World of Color performed by Boys to Men. Yes, I did see that too.

And a new original song called Makes Me Wanna Move. I can't tell if that's Boys to Men or if it's performed by no artist. Will it make us want to move? Time will tell. And then this one, I'm, I mean,

oof, let me like take a deep breath just to like quell the excitement I won't be able to get through the sentence I don't know if you guys have heard but ahead of the first world of color happiness showing guests inside Disney California Adventure can vote on the Disneyland app for one of four different emotions

sadness anger disgust or envy to see which is featured in special scenes throughout both days shows I get to we get to choose wait hold on democracy works so what didn't you understand about that sentence that was very clear i understand they made two versions and they've uh created a fake voting system that does nothing of well i guess i don't four i think it's four versions inside out. Four versions. Inside Out has landed, the world of Inside Out has invaded World of Color.

And four of the characters, not Joy. Joy is not in this list. Joy's side emotions only. Okay. Sadness, anger, disgust, and envy. You get to pick which one, are you feeling disgust today? Then you get to put disg one is are are you feeling disgust today then you get to put disgust in the show huh and then so it's the the majority wins yeah i guess that's what they're

saying yeah you get to be one of one of a bunch of people voting on the app and we know the app and we know this is going to be a very clean voting system we know that it's going to be easy as hell for you to register your anger by putting anger into the world of color happiness show won't the same thing win every time because it'll just be the most popular character from inside out maybe but i don't know maybe not you know like if if we're feeling you know there's some days where we're feeling particularly angry about the state of this nation. Oh, you think that would influence it? Or maybe we're feeling disgusted by the state of this nation. Or we're feeling envy on behalf of other countries who are not dealing with what we're dealing with.

I think it's how is the news striking the general populace every day when they're going to Disneyland? How does that reflect in their votes? I think people have been there all day, sometimes by the time it gets around to the nighttime show, anger and or disgust might already be an emotion they're experiencing. Because they're

tired from the day. I love my kids, but they are a handful. Gosh, they are a handful. I'm disgusted by the behavior of my i'm today i'm voting disgust opened all those ketchup packets and i he knew he was just going to use one so then it's just a pile on the plate and then i gotta take it to the trash i like this picture you're painting of the Disneyland dad. It was pizza.

Why do you even need ketchup? He just wanted to play with it, damn it. That was not a good fake ketchup opening. And now he stinks like Heinz. My stinky kid. My stinky ketchup kid. So mad of this stinky kid. This is a phrase that you're saying with disgust,

but I could easily see either of you saying, now when I was growing up, I was a little stinky ketchup kid. Jason was a little stinky ketchup kid. I was a big ketchup kid. He's the one with all the stinky kids around him, as we've established. Well, that was a second game. That was Club 3.

I don't know if that was a good point. That was Club 3. You didn't hear that. Breaking news on Club 3, and if this doesn't get you over to Club 3, then I don't know what will. Breaking news is Jason would sometimes get headaches at school because of how bad all the kids around him smelled. The kids smelled.

There was very little ventilation, obviously no air conditioning in that old, you know, Works Progress Administration building. Ultimately, it goes back to the 30s. Your headache was born in the 1930s. Yeah, my headache. And the conditions, and it also led to the conditions that, you know, and the poor nutrition in this nation

that caused those children to stink. That's a good point. Yeah. It all makes sense now. Curse you, FDR. You know, the dairy surplus that America constantly has, all that extra cheese and milk produced that the schools have to take.

And the kids were secreting the milk and cheese, do you think? Well, no, it was the lunches, the school lunches, and they'd all be farting and smelly from all the dairy. Is this a problem that persists to this day? Do you think this is a problem that... Why didn't Mike have this problem growing up? Was this like your area specifically? No, this is countrywide.

The farting epidemic. School lunches had a lot of cheese and cartons of milk were the default drink. And because that was just from so much surplus dairy and government funding for dairy farmers. They forced all of us to eat so much dairy. Now, this is a facet of this conversation that didn't come up in the Club 3 episode. Was Jason's blame of the government

for the stinky children in his class well looking back i mean it was more like the parents just hadn't been like yeah we should probably get you bathing more would probably get you a deodorant stick here's a here's a question yeah did were you part of the problem uh were you a stinky kid yourself or were you the lone not stinky kid i think my mom did a good job of like you need to start showering more or bathing more and this is like nine this is no these are all systemic never mind it's fascinating because i just wasn't other than the one kid that sat next to me for a couple months in third grade that smelled like bologna,

I don't have a strong memory of those... My classroom's stinking a lot. The kid's stinking. I've always had kind of a sensitive sense of smell. Either my nose is stuffy or I just... I have that too. Smell hates me hard. So I would have to be a bologna kid.

And I would also be curious if you were to go go back home go to that classroom would you find that the ghost of the smells i think the building was demolished and rebuilt oh might be more there was at least an opportunity more air conditioning and do current habits cause the children in area, like kind of matching the demographics, are they still as stinky today as they were? Well, now they all just smell like Mr. Beast's Feastable Chocolate Bars. The nasty chocolate bars

that always seem to be on clearance that people are posting pictures. Every single child's lunch. Every single store. Can I trade your beast for my beast well we got the same beast yeah i want to feel something all right well again well again we've wrapped back around to the nausea we've talked about jason's stinky kit i do i do think it was i'm getting i'm gonna get four hundred thousand dollars if i can put up with a month's worth of stinky kids.

Mr. B's told me that. That's the subject of the next. That's what entertainment is now. Mr. B's stinky kid challenge is the next show. He's lying though because it's $400 in Robux. Like, I don't know what to do with that. Roblox? Oh, Roblox.

Roblox books. Whatever it's called. I have one more question. Do you, because you seem to answer to my question that you were the lone non-stinky kid out of what, 30? Would you agree with that? Or do you think there's maybe like four or five who are not stinky?

No, I think we all took turns being a little stinky. You know, kids start to sweat more and your body starts to change and there's some stink, you know? I feel like my memory is maybe junior high is when I started becoming aware of, maybe that's just maybe my awareness, but that's when I really sort of remember like,

oh, now it's time to really like fix the stink. Hygienic and yes, maybe somebody smells a little bit. I don't recall it so strongly in elementary school. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Jason. But maybe that's me. I don't know.

Jason is scared. Jason goes back like Martin Sheen in Apocalypse Now. Just cold sweat middle of the night recalling the stink. I'm lying. Yeah, I'm lying. Eyes wide awake, ceiling fan slowly rotating. Oh, God. I do imagine just you in a room full of pig pens

from Peanuts. Just stink lines coming off of all these kids. Yeah. Right. And remember, of course, we met Pigpen at the livery stable at Knott's Berry Farm right before the pandemic. And he didn't... If he smelled, I didn't

notice because all those farm animals were a little stinky. I don't think that they would make the costumed characters stink in order to complete the illusion. This is not something that you find a lot in theme park mascot characters. Yeah, that's a good point. But it would have been nice.

It'd be an interesting innovation. And something that they could do for the 70th. That's true. Sure, colorful fun clothes. What colorful fun smells are these characters bringing to the table? Right. What does Pluto smell like this year?

Let's be honest. Goofy should smell a little. You know he doesn't take care of himself so well. He's very chaotic. And I'm not saying it's a specific type of smell, but whatever. He forgot he was cooking or something and he got a bunch of batter all over him and it's just been drying on his pants and he didn't notice. He forgot he was, like, cooking or something, and he, like, got a bunch of batter all over him,

and it's just been drying on his pants, and he didn't notice. I forgot to change. Is that Bane from Batman? Gorsh. I was going to say. I was too invested in listening to Kill Tony while I ate my batter.

Oh, he's problematic. Oh, no. Goofy, no. No. I think it's a little bit of Bane, but a little bit of Lorne Michaels. Hello, Batman. Hello, Mickey Mouse.

My skis don't go on because they're ready. They go on because it's 11. All right. Well, let's bring it back. So a lot to look forward to for the 70th. We will keep giving you these updates. We will check in as soon as the actual Jonas Brothers song has been released. Yeah, I am excited.

We'll try to be more timely. Mike, I'm sorry that these clothes have been out for, although, you know what? I put the blame right back on you. You could have been talking about these clothes all year. None of those clothes. You would have been allergic to the discussion if I had brought up the clothing, I think. And by now, you would have been really allergic to it. Also, let's call it out.

None of those clothes, platinum. Well, but that is true. No one's getting a platinum gift. But again, the idea of platinum is a thing that Mike made up that is not anything they were ever going to do. Yes, the platinum celebration. That's why you should have brought it.

Did you forget that I made up platinum celebration? I thought we looked up what the 70th anniversary of a marriage would be. But that doesn't mean that Disney ever thought of it. But 60 was diamonds. Yes, that's why I said that the 70th will be a platinum.

So that would lead to the discussion. I guess, but that doesn't oblige Disney to call it something. They've never called it the platinum. Because they did the wood anniversary, they did the paper anniversary. Who on earth has ever followed these? I don't know.

This poor wife who's getting so paper, I get. We have to do it. Buy the books, darling. I get a paper necklace this year. Yeah. Yeah, it was pouring on our anniversary, and my gift smelt it. All right. Well, there's no easy way to transition, So I will just hard pivot back into the topic proper today, which is this is a discussion that we have to have, I think, is that there's, you know, if we're being all if we're being all proper and by the books, then we call this episode Mad Tea Party.

Right. But who on earth has ever called it that? Teacups. This is the teacups. Yeah. The teacups is what we are talking about which and i think there's a lot of firsts with this attraction and i think that is one of them i think the this is the first attraction that has an official name that no one uses that's a good

point ever said you want to hit mad tea party it is like it it paves the way for tiana's by tiana's bio adventure for names that will never be used in full. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, Mike hears that and he's like, are we going to hear an Imagine Dragons cover tonight or a Hoosier cover? When I hear Mantee Party. When you hear Mantee Party. Was his name Hoosier? Hoosier. Hoosier?

Oh, I didn't even know he was talking about it. He was so off. Yeah, yeah. Are we going to hear a cover of a speech from the movie Hoosiers? I guess Hoosiers, is that a- It's a movie. Yeah. Well, that's a team, a college team? Yeah.

Yeah? Hoosiers, yeah. It's not the name of that artist. Hoosier, yeah. Hoosier, yeah. Now I get it. By which you're referring to, I mean, I knew we weren't going to make it too far with that Mad Tea Party coming up, Mike's favorite band in the world.

It goes, it goes mad tea party, Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Sammy and the Wabos, Sammy and the Wabos, Sammy Agar and the Circle, Jonas Brothers,

but just celebrate happy. And then Hoosier and his band. By the way, Hoosier's band, Hoosier and the Hoosiers. Sorry to dwell on this, but I don't know that, or that is celebrate happy going to live up to come on everybody get your ears on well that is an

interesting I don't remember what that is or when it's from it's from Mickey's Mix Magic yes it was a song that I forgot was an actual like song that they put yeah I thought it was just from an ad campaign and then it was in the Mix Magic it is also on Spotify so you can hear I thought it was just from an ad campaign, and then it was in the Mixed Magic. It is also on Spotify, so you can hear it. Yes, it was for a show, though. It was not for an anniversary, so it's not necessarily. I can't hear it, you're saying. It is available to be heard, yes. Well, Scott, careful.

You're going to drop your phone. You're getting it out. Fuck. I could have been listening to this song for months and knowing about Mickey's Irregular Coat. Yep. I should get off the band, but knowing that the band was going to come up,

I was like, can I find a song by this band I haven't heard? And then I looked it up, and I found them doing a cover of Razor Glass by Pink. Oh, yeah. Oh, I've heard. Yeah. heard yeah i don't it was the funniest thing to me when you were you've been talking up and this was a band that played at an event in california adventure that's like a crazy that's malice in wonderland meets evanescence a g-rated rave top hits from the 70s through 80s through now yeah Yeah. And I still find it so funny

that when they appeared on a very public stage before D23, that multiple people were texting, what the hell is this shit that Mike likes? Those were bad streams. It wasn't an official live stream that was plugged into the soundboard. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Well, then how do you account for the person who was in the room who texted me the same comment? Where were they seated? Were they seated by the band or were they seated? Because depending on the room. They weren't used to arena sound. They play smaller venues, so that was unfair. They didn't get to properly do the sound mix.

It's a hockey arena. We don't know. No acoustics in there. Yeah, no band has ever sounded good. I think everyone in there. Yeah, no band has ever sounded good. I think everyone can attest no band has ever sounded good at the Honda Center. The only song you can even hear in there

is Blur's Song No. 2. Song No. 2. Also known as Woo! It's called Song 2. I don't know. It's called Song Hoosier 2. I thought the fact that I was pretty close was pretty good. You were pretty close on that one. You did get the number right. Iier 2. I thought the fact that I was pretty close was pretty good.

You were pretty close on that one. You did get the number right. This is correct. I'm Big Damon Albert boy. Look, I hear you. Can you say you're a fan, not boy? What is this, boy? Why do we do this?

We are adults. You are so close to 40. You're not an anything boy. The movie 43. the song number two that sound appears on the criteria that is not in the title it will be added i'm a little article adding boy yes yes that is what he is a little article adding boy mad tea party this is we're gonna have to we're gonna have to focus up because and look because there's a lot to talk about here because keep in mind maybe you haven't thought this through this ride goes round and round right so that's two giant facets that we have

now an hour remaining to cover i don't know if we're going to get to both. Maybe we only get to the first round. There's multiple turntables in play, too. There sure are. And it's been in a different spot. It's moved. It's moved. And you know the original was manufactured by Arrow Development. As many early Disneyland

attractions were. I like that cool street phrase. And you know Arrow Development man, you know aerodevelopment put that motherfucker together. Not aerodynamics. That was the company's later name. Eventually bought up by S&S.

Undone by the complications of building X, the rotating ride at Six Flagsags Magic Mountain, and the unbuilt Stratosphere roller coaster. They were undone by that? What is that? Just like they didn't have a lot lined up after that,

and they were kind of put all their eggs in a basket. There's a great storybook amusement video on this, and there's an expedition theme park as well about unbuilt and built stratosphere stuff of course stratosphere the big space needle looking kind of casino that used to have a roller coaster that would circle the top of it a nice uh badly put together roller coaster oh long gone long gone and never built the one the roller coaster that was going to go down the side of the building and across the road. Jeez.

Residents were not wild about that idea. Sure, sure. Sounds cool, though. Well, similar. I mean, look, it was uncharted territory in building the teacups. So you can, you know, maybe you don't blame them too much. But I think it was kind of poorly put together back then. So probably something we all ran into.

But just as we dive in here, this is truly fundamental. It is a big one. And not just a big one for Disney, but a big one for all the various parks that ripped it off for years and years. There was even a part of me that was like, was this a type of ride that existed called the teacups and then they took it one step further by making it literal teacups and to play into alice in wonderland uh and the answer is no they nothing was ever called the teacups before this and everything else that does that because plenty of other theme parks call call

these things teacups uh it's all ripping disney off and you have to this it seems odd that it's an area where they have not been super litigious where it seems like they they could and would be yes that's true i mean it feels like yeah it feels like to invent this which now just feels like part of any park like it feels like having something that looks like this in every theme park is just like that's what you do It's like law that you do it. But since Disney started it, you would think that they would be a little more like, no, that's what we invent.

Making people dizzy like this is what we invented. Right, right. Because it's a big thing they could take off the table for competitors. Although I think I saw somewhere that they don't own the patent on it. So I think they can't stop people from doing a ride of this nature. Right. Because maybe there was one. Maybe there were a few that existed before, but nothing that called it teacups.

I think what they have a patent on is like the design, the type of cup. Right. The type of squiggle that is on the side of the cup. So you could do like a glass, like a clear glass, like you drink water out of and you could spin people around in that. Yeah. Because it doesn't look like a teacup.

And I think you could just have a general bucket but still call it the teacups. But I think maybe, I don't know, I could be wrong. Cups themselves. I don't know what the copyright entails, but maybe you can't do handles.

Maybe you can't do little plates. Saucers? Maybe you can't do handles. Maybe you can't do little plates. Saucers? Maybe you can't do saucers. Only Disney can do saucers. You could do little dishes, like a dish, a candy dish. It's hard for me to picture how a plate is different than a dish. Well, it's like a little bowl. A dish is a little bowl.

A candy dish would be a little bowl. A candy. I was going to say dishes aren't. Yeah, no, the concept of dishes themselves, yes, there's a lot of things. But like a dish or like a dish for like a cat or they sometimes call dog dish is a little bowl. Yeah. Jason, is there another thing that you would want to be spun around in, a big version of some sort of kitchen dish? Oh.

Kitchen. Well, we have saucer and teacups, so those are off the table. That's off the table, right, because we can do that. You just mentioned water glass, so I guess that's off the table. Glass, bowls, is, right? Because we can do that. You just mentioned water glass. So I guess that's off the table. Glass, bowls. Is there any other? Oh, maybe like a colander?

You could spin and then go through at the end. You would go through it? Yeah. You would be, oh, okay. I guess they kind of already have that. It's like a gravitron kind of, isn't it? Well, those water slides where you kind of go around the big funnel and you go out the bottom. Oh, okay.

Yeah, I guess. I think that's a different ride. I think you spinning around a colander coming out of one of the holes is a different ride than the teacups. Yeah. I don't know how they aim you through the holes. I think it's just like hand up and kind of spinning through. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think there's much precision in that. A dinner plate, potentially you could fly off that could be fun you're picking the most dangerous terrible not fine i was thinking something simple here well if you want to if you want if the way you want to go out is flying off a giant dinner plate into an audience in a crowd wait why is there a crowd you're waiting to go on the ride there could could be some mattresses or like paddles. Oh, okay. Well, I was picturing the way you wanted to go out. So that's the plan.

The plan is for people to fly off and then land on mattresses. I see, I see. Okay, this is a really haphazard. Yeah. I was just hoping you were going to say a juice glass or something you were going to answer, but you're coming up with a bunch of Action Park-style rides here. A juice glass is awfully similar to a water glass. It is similar.

You're just talking a little four ounces. You're right. Or like a sippy cup, two handles. Yeah. Like a baby sippy cup or a toddler sippy cup. Oh, a baby sippy cup is good. Or being like an adult, I don't drink a lot of Moscow mules, but I like these glasses.

Oh, and a copper mug of some kind. It'd be nice to... If those were like... That's a good idea. Those would shimmer in the sun. Yes. Those would look very pretty. They'd look good under moonlight.

That'd be a nice adult way to do it. The sun would probably damage the copper pretty quickly. I mean, you could probably figure out a way to paint it. It's for if it's faux copper. Yeah, sure. It doesn't have to be legit copper, but that would be cool. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, for a full like alcohol themed theme park. Duffland. Yeah. Or like a bro-y park or something. Put it in there. I don't know if they're going to attract bros to the bro-y park. I think bros are maybe going to rebel against the notion that this is where they're supposed to go.

Maybe. But then I don't know. I'm not a bro, and I haven't known a lot over the years. I can't get into the head of one. Well, let's ask the bros out there. Would you go to a bro park where you could get in a big copper mug that spun you around? Yo, bros. Need your feedback, bros.

Are you listening to this show and you're a bro? First of all, why? Secondly. When you're done picking all the sauces for your big wing box, you know? Fucking bros getting big wings, getting a 30 rack of Keystone. I mean, you're right about the bros getting their wing sauce, but don't you and I like to get our wing sauce too? I was about to say, you love your chicken guy sauces.

Oh, that's true. What's the difference? Those are genteel dipping sauces. Oh, it's a different thing. That's a whole other realm of sauce. No, I'm talking about they're getting tossed in the sauce. But I'm a B-dubs guy. I'm a Buffalo Wild Wings guy. That's true.

I'm a little Buffalo Wild Wings boy. I'm a little sauce boy. This allergy that you described before, there is no worse phraseology to me. It truly is. I think the hairs inside my ear all stand up. Yeah. They try to block the words

from getting in there again. Look, you don't understand. Mike's still young. He can still go. He does understand that. He does know that. I've been made to understand it from how often it's been said. When I grab his wrist and I let go.

You're not leaving jelly rolls until that door closes and locks. I do think, I guess all this to say, I do think the teacup perhaps is the best of all the different things in a kitchen you could ride in and spin in a circle. I would have to agree. Yeah. I think it makes sense within the storytelling.

Of course. And I think that it's a, you almost have to, you know, look, this is like, you you know maybe there's more like excitement about a big e-ticket type attraction uh and maybe there's more bean on the bone to talk about even with a big e-ticket attraction but i've really uh i i don't know if it's just a parenting thing i don't know if like now bringing uh young children into the parks has affected my thinking but i think it has because you gravitate to different rides when you do that and and this really struck me a couple weeks ago when we talked about epic universe and how much it all clicked with me yoshi's adventure this ride that seems like nothing on its face is like the

heart of the land and you wish they had a lot more of these uh um i i i do i think there is some just like basic fun and creativity to all right one of our most popular movies we have to represent is alice in wonderland what are we going to do will we put people in a car that takes you through the scenes of the movie i mean yes they ended up doing that but even that you're in a big cool caterpillar that's neat but like that we're going to abstractify the movie and put not not just have you be a passive participant looking at characters and scenes that you aren't a part of, but you're in a cup. Yeah. You're in the tea party.

You are the tea. Right. when the narrative is fleshed out and the story is told, like in a Rise of the Resistance, or not, I'm sorry, in a Galaxy's Edge or an Avengers Campus or whatever, that when the narrative is too strong, you can't, there's not opportunity to just have a silly, stupid ride that doesn't make any narrative sense, but that is great fun for everybody. Does all that make sense? Yes, I think what you're saying is that they're,

like especially in the last 10, 20 years, the obsession with the idea of story. Yes. And story this. Being immersed in this world. And this has led to some wonderful things, but I think there's also like a place for, yeah, you're in the tea.

Yes. You're in this silly vehicle and it's fun what it does to you. Right. Now, obviously, Cars Land, Radiator Springs did a great job with that. I think Radiator Springs took the teacup-style D-ticket, C-ticket, whatever you want to call it, and updated it, took it into the new millennium to the next level and i just wish that there were i i i think we park should not neglect this kind of thing where it's like yes it's simple but it's

effective people have loved it just as much for 70 years and always will yeah i mean there should be like a star wars land it should be like yeah and you ride a lightsaber like it doesn't like it's silly like i know there's gotta be something like that yeah it like it's yeah I know like I know like gotta really make that yeah it's it's just to people that it or what if you're what's their what's their chess call is there something with that with what's the what's the hologram chess yeah but

there's some other there's some sabbath is that it that's the card game the holographic chess games yeah yeah that's what it is what if you were one of those what if you were moving around oh if you're saying? Yeah, that's what it is. What if you were one of those? What if you were moving around? What if you're on a big board? That would be really good. Sliding around and knocking other figures.

Yeah. That's fun. I think people in the 50s did not ask, but how does this work in terms of the broader narrative? I think they said, I get to be in a teacup that spins around? Sounds great. Sign me up yeah i think this what is the story uh you know what story behind this can be helpful but like it has a like infected like what is the story of this gastropubs like what is the story of this clothing line

yeah you know sure there's too much especially parks, there's too much logicking of everything instead of just figuring out what the coolest version of every room is, the coolest version of every ride in space. I think I said this before on the show in a Tony Baxter interview. He claims that Mark Davis was complaining about people calling rides stories

and going, they're not stories. Wow. They're just stuff happening, like fun stuff happening like he was really irritated by it i think tony was using it to illustrate that he felt similarly about it huh i think of the same interview he was also talking about how jar jar binks should be in galaxy's edge and even though jar jar binks was like controversial or people didn't like him at the time people he was like people would go nuts seeing jar jar binks in galaxy's edge and he's absolutely right that's definitely 100% right and yeah well he's he's Star Wars goofy is what he is yeah yeah and I'd love to see him there and I'd love to see what colorful vests he's wearing of course for the 70th anniversary but there's a

lot less of that these days I feel like the thinking is more just like the perfectly crafted narrative and the ride is so, makes so much sense. And this ride connects to this. And some of that's cool, but some of it's just like, I think we're missing out on just like the most fun version of things. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't, yeah.

And it's not better. Yeah. Well, it's where you think. Not always better. It's where you got to be thankful for this perennial. Isn't Disneyland really built on the back of, when people were leaving that place in 55, and I'm sure there was a lot to complain about in that first day,

in that first month and all that, but I think the big headlines were, oh, it's cool, there's this one thing where you fly around and an elephant goes round and round. There's this other thing where you sit in a teacup and it spins round and around yeah it's really where they're not these uh and maybe people were as excited about uh you know i mean what are the big like what did you leave what was as we as epic universe opens yeah uh and and knowing that the

all the all the heat and all the pressure is going to be on potter and the monsters uh what do you think people were leaving Disneyland talking about? Was it this? Opening day? Was it Jungle Cruise? Pretty new, immersive. That might have really tricked people in terms of, I don't know how they made a jungle.

Train? Train probably did. I bet the whole thing, though, since it was so crazy, too. There was just nothing like it. There was nothing like it. So I can imagine everybody a different thing. Now that we're so jaded with all of our themed entertainment now, you're like picking things apart a little more.

But I have to imagine people like, look at that thing they built, that big crazy thing they built. Yeah. This is wild. Yeah. I think one thing I'm looking forward to that seems like they got right in this sense for it. You mentioned Epic Universe in the monsters area. It's like, yeah, Egor is here and Dracula

and Frankenstein and the Wolfman. Yeah. And fuck it, the creature from the Black Lagoon and the Phantom of the, like everyone's here. Yes. And they figured it out with the construct of Darkmoor. just yeah it's still it is still technically it's a coherent story right even if that you know you could poke holes in it if you thought too hard but do you want to think too hard or do you want all the monsters to be right the movie dark universe the line of

movies that never got off the ground where it's like okay and so there's a mummy but it's not tom cruise at the beginning but made by the end and dr jekyll and mr hyder there and he runs a secret like shield organization this who's going to be frankenstein this is going to be dracula and blah blah blah and it's like that's so complicated than just this ride is all the guys yes yeah yeah i think they've got the right idea i mean we haven't gotten to do it yet, but it definitely seems promising. In one of the alleyways near one of the windows, there's a whole audio track playing

of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde getting into an argument. Oh, wow. There's a whole couple minutes of like, what are you doing? You're out of control. Like in this whole dramatic thing. There's a sign too for like Dr. Jekyll and Pop. I saw that.

Yes, all the characters are there. Smart. And they have, yes, they have figured out their logic for it. Well I don't know if I'm just trying to ham-fistedly go back to what we're talking about, but that is, they also had the right idea with Fantasyland where they don't go,

but how would Snow White know Mr. To toad and you're saying they're neighbors and well that there has to be some construct that allows you to jump from realm to realm at like or i don't know there's just place all storybooks live yeah they all the story all the princesses are here they didn't uh yeah they didn't ever think yeah dumbo is in old england that's fine right no problem is this an uh necessity of invention kind of thing where it's like, we have a space. We don't have much time. We have some money. Hopefully more money is coming.

Yeah. I mean, I just think they weren't. I mean, we like completely themed to one thing, big lands. Yeah. But yeah, it was was not this was not a there was just yeah anything that's sort of like in a book and i've looked i've complained i don't like poo and bayou country but i just think that's because bayou country is too specific sure sure i mean that's retro it has been retrofit so many times yeah they've changed the name of it

i'm just saying that like that bothers me now because the land is so specific fantasy land is a pretty broad name what does that even mean really other than just fictional yeah i guess fantasy is in that way like it really does give a i almost feel like maybe what we just want is a new fantasy land today one that doesn't take itself as seriously yeah it is just kind of like and plop it's all here but just sort of what like seuss landing or whatever which is like that's all here every it doesn't matter if the characters never met or wouldn't know each other just put them all there i guess fantasy springs is the souped up version in japan of fantasy land where it's still little mini lands connected they're still, I think they're still in the mindset of like land or mini land.

Cause it does feel like, yeah, are we ever going to get just a land opening up that is multiple? I mean, I guess kind of that area in animal kingdom that's got Indiana Jones and. Oh sure. That seems like a good mishmash. Yeah.

That's, yeah, that's closer to what I think we're saying. We're saying we like our mishmashes. We can still do mishmashes. And actually, well, let me tie things together with Epic Universe and teacups here. And another first that I think the teacups does. Because I thought Epic Universe did a great job of using attractions as the kinetic energy in the land.

As, you know, things work if you're not on the ride because you're watching it pass by and it's fun to look at and it obviously works to be on it because it's fun to be on a ride yeah and i think the teacups are probably an early attraction where it is sort of this kinetic sculpture as well as uh being a fun ride to go on itself and and i i'm sure that was evident in day one, but what you didn't have in day one yet was attractions up in the air. And by the time you add Skyway and Monorail,

and I guess Matterhorn, you catch glimpses of it, but that you can look down on this thing and that it's well-designed just to look at as well, and that there's psychedelic swirls and the like and the colors are fun and just like watching the mecca watching the mechanism watching the turntables yeah uh it was really neat so i i think like yeah i i don't know it paves it paves the way in that regard too that it's just a you know cool experience to look at it yeah i mean i i hate this episode

turning into a complete just complain about everything else episode but that is where my head is at now because i'm like spider-man ride in avengers campus it's like that ride is okay some people say bad i say okay but would it have been better for them to build what is a very expensive ride that ride or would it have been like make some like little swing ride with some like cheap like simple looking buildings that makes you kind of like dip in and out of the buildings and it's like your web yeah as if your web's swinging and there's a couple static figures but the the movement of it looks cool from like the street so you get the swoop that's spidey and you get the swoop that Spidey used to do.

And you get the swoop, and it's just a simple ride, probably a lot cheaper than what they put in there. It gives that zone a lot more energy. People take a lot of pictures of it. People take a lot of pictures of it, and it ultimately is at least as popular as what's there. God, that does sound really good. Doesn't that, like, there's got to be some little swing.

It's a good premise, and then you've got that going all around the land instead of this like kind of clinical these are offices these are work heroes go to do work right and i'm sort of basing it on that like patent that they put for like a crazy looking swing ride yeah that never got made or hopefully will eventually get made with like big practical buildings but like make a kind of kiddie version of it and i don't know maybe it makes the land better yeah in a way yeah and and it's it's not as complained about yes possibly yeah um but let's let's talk basics here let's make sure we get just like the stuff out we got 18 cups we got three big turntables. Let's not forget those plates. We got those little plates as well. Handles.

Only Disney can do those handles. Plate steps that you could trip on. Yes, very easily. Yes. Yeah, I'm always cautious. Everybody should be cautious with the kids. That is a kid. Oh, yeah.

The height of a kid. That's a magnet for uh for a slip um i had not thought about how the breakdown of the spinning happens that so your cups can spin the cups go counterclockwise they are then there's three turntables with six cups each those all all go clockwise. Then all of it is on one big turntable, which goes counterclockwise. So you got a lot of competing directions, which I don't think I really clocked or appreciated is part of the dizzying effect,

that you're spinning in three different ways, essentially, at all times. Yeah. I guess, I mean, it makes complete sense, but I guess I never thought of it in that way. But it definitely felt like you're going against the grain. It doesn't feel, I guess, I mean, it makes complete sense, but I guess I never thought of it in that way. But it definitely felt like you're going against the grain. It doesn't feel, to me, I don't know about you guys, and I don't ever feel that dizzy on it.

This particular thing doesn't make me dizzy or queasy in the way that Guardians does a little bit. This is a good question. How much does this affect? Because there's, I think, the notoriety through the years of that this is the queasy maker. This is like, don't get on the... If you were writing a sitcom joke about Disneyland and you didn't know anything about Disneyland,

it'd probably be something about barfing when you get off the teacups. Yes. How do people feel? Has this ever affected you in a nauseous way? This was a big childhood favorite of mine great and uh would be at disneyland or be at smaller park knockoffs and i wanted to spin it fast yeah oh yeah you know i think when i got older i did have the

impression of like were these always so hard to spin? Now I learned, I guess I never really thought about why and learning about this. Reading about it, it was like a purposeful choice after someone fell getting off of one. Yes. Or I think a kid stood up

and flew out of the thing. Something that they, like theoretically, if you were sitting, because this ride does not have seat belts. Right. And theoretically, gravity should keep you inside. But that is undone if you stand up. If you're going crazy with it. In 2004, it was made more difficult to spin fast after a disabled rider lost his balance and slipped from a teacup okay so you could go like as fast as you possibly wanted before 2004 like your strength was the only thing holding you

back well kind of this is also part of the history and you guys probably ran into this too that if you go all the way back um when the park opens, July 55, there is literally nothing stopping you from cranking this thing up as fast as it can go. I think in the early days also, maybe they didn't limit how many people could be in there because I think there's photos where you could see six people in. Or, I mean, you're limited by just how many can physically fit. Yeah. But I think maybe they keep it in the four range. I don't actually know that. i don't know but uh i think yeah i think six people could jump on there and there was absolutely nothing slowing it down so you could just spin and spin and spin and spin

in the reveal of the ride the reveal of the ride to an abc television audience in the opening day special they kind of like uh, characters run to this ride and they run over here and they run over here. And the Alice in Wonderland characters run on to the turntable and you see the March Hare just like nudge a cup

and it like, vroom, it like, it spins so fast from being like, accidentally touched for balance, basically. And it really gives you a sense

of how this thing, you could just crank in 55. You could go really fast, you buy tobacco on Main Street, no gum. No gum. No gum and no booze. You're saying that the things you were allowed. Yeah. You're saying gum was the least

dangerous, perhaps, of the three. I'm just saying, like, Walt said no gum. He said no booze yeah so you had to yeah you couldn't you couldn't drink you had to get the natural high of spinning right really really fast in there so i think that led to probably a lot of early vomiting from people who had never been on anything remotely like this and you had no built-in measures to stop themselves from doing it yeah i think it also led to a lot of wear and tear on the attraction this is some of the history and

backstory that you could find is that very early on in the first month they are sending welders to weld the ride back together for two hours a day every day day. That is the amount that this thing was just cracking apart due to zero regulations on the spin. Yeah. Now we go to an often looming figure in Disneyland history, Bob Gurr. Bob Gurr helped put this together as well as everything. I think the entire thing was hanging on his shoulder. He was like the handyman in the building. If anything breaks, you call this one guy and it might not get fixed for a while because it is all on the one guy and he's got a long list and a bunch of other buildings to go to right so that

is what bob gerr seems like for early disneyland and he describes having to fix the thing and like try to get like get under the hood basically and figure out what the hell is going on. Why does this thing keep cracking apart so often? And he describes doing this, getting under the attraction while the ride is in motion. Now, I don't know what you got under there. Maybe it's very comfortable. Maybe you've got 10 feet down there.

I don't know. But my suspicion is you do not. These guys are built differently. Yeah, yes. When men suspicion is you do not. These guys are built differently. Yeah, yes. When men were men, you see. Yeah, completely insane. And then there's a recent video, because Bob is still with us. And he, like a month or so ago, went on the teacups for the first time.

And the person he's with is like, what do you mean you've never been on it? And he's like, I don't know. Look, I built the thing do you mean you've never been on it and he's like i don't know i look i built the thing that made me want to go on at the least never had any desire i know too much and then interesting in the video that he he has a very particular method of spinning he's like i know how to do this for maximum pleasure i know when to do it and i know when to stop and they're like how i built it i don't know i just know i know from looking i like so bob gurr so if you watch this video he like his method because you might think just spin and spin and spin and spin and maybe that is the most pleasurable way to do it but bob gurr having never been on it just like is here's my here's my method i don't know what it is did he explain he didn't explain it it'd be hard it was hard for me to parse and i think you'd have to

watch it to understand but it was not dissimilar from what i do these days i think i'm a kid and i'm just spinning and spinning spinning i think now what i like to do is like put in a big run and then like coast ease off and then like kind of like not worry about it for a second and just cruise and then we lose a little bit of speed and we come back to it we crank it up again but i like i really like all right like a sprint sprint sprint sprint now relax and uh and so on and so forth because it's nice to just like while it's fun to spin it's also fun to like just lean back put your arms up on the side just kind of just just cruise just just let momentum do it Because you can really tire out your arms. Completely.

Yeah. Which is why, I mean, I imagine you must have done this with your brother. If you're with another kid or a group of kids, and you can just collectively use all of your little energy and probably not lay back and enjoy the sights, just try to get that thing going as fast as you can. It seems like fun. That's what, yeah,

every time there was a bunch of kids, that would be the case. Yeah. I think. Classic Disneyland experience, I think. Yeah, but I'm more what you're saying now. I don't need to go nuts with it. Because I also like to like,

give me a second to like take in the Matterhorn and kind of like enjoy, because it is always spinning, even if you weren't spinning it. Like let me enjoy the wide. Let me do the macro spin. Now go in and do the micro spin. Well, and especially if it's at night.

Yes. Oh my gosh. It's great at night. Disneyland at night. That's really the- Yes. The lanterns that were added are wonderful. I think the placemaking here is fantastic.

Yes. That they created this little Alice mini land. Because Alice, I've said before, I think might be my favorite of the dark rides. And I really like it. The exterior and the caterpillars are coming in and out. And I like that it's all in the shadow of the Matterhorn. I like that monorails are passing by. Yeah.

And storybook land, those boats are launching. It's kind of that like, I can get a little stressed out in main drag fantasy land oh yeah because it's like two rides here two rides here like lines that pile up real fast uh carousel clogging up the way and i kind of like let me relax a little let me go over to chill fantasy land too this is your oasis side no yeah. Where it's more like pastoral, you know? Yeah, I know. And then you can get out a little bit easier. That sort of toward the, out toward the main.

Convenient Alice bathrooms with a lot of built-in wall seating. By the Cheshire Cat. One of the best. They've put them back. One of the best bathrooms. You hear all kinds of, you hear music from every direction. It's all kind of different. Yeah, that is a fun,

you get a fun carnival kind of atmosphere. Yeah, yeah. A bunch of different cues coming in and out. Maybe a little monorail honk. Maybe I hear a little bit of Swiss Alps music from Matterhorn. Yeah. It's just, it's a magic zone in the park.

I agree. And I think you gotta credit Tony Baxter for this, unless he, who knows the breakdown of what people do in these land overhauls but this where the teacups are now is a post 83 thing a post new fantasy land thing because in the 50s you go through the castle that's

carousel right there and then it's teacups right behind it barely any room between and I think Dumbo right in there too Dumbo move yeah it was kind of a flip almost where the carousel is now is where the teacups was yes yes i believe okay yeah yeah so then they just yeah um the carousel moved but it was sort of like early teacups seem maybe a little unpleasant because you don't have the lighting fixtures yeah there's nothing above it yeah yes yeah uh when and it does it is just it did just seem like kind of like a big open hot kind of area that's true i think they didn't paint it originally yeah it was just kind of brown wood

gray yeah yeah and then they painted the spiral yes underneath yeah red and yellow which may look cool for Skyway, I'm sure. yeah. Yeah, but I don't know, I think that move had some magic to it. I agree.

I think that new little nook is just great. I think where it moved to was kind of empty space. Right, right. From what I saw. I still think, yeah,

visually, especially if you're a kid, you walk in and there's big teacups, the old version still looks pretty awesome. Yeah. If that's your your expectation like but yes the new version added an extra layer of of disney magic to it for sure yeah i believe um so the the teacups are in five of the six um magic kingdom disneyland style parks correct i don't think they're in shanghai yeah this is

the only one that's uncovered by like a pavilion yes yeah which the pavilions kind of help they can run in the rain because it's covered yeah and the hot beating sun it's some relief some shade from the sun right right uh i'm gonna do a little gotcha i've been looking up i've been looking at some maps i've been looking at some over was i wrong about the carousel wrong about the carousel has not moved i think you are i think you're thinking of unless oh wait or am i crazy was it you know what i can't tell what i'm looking at i don't know if it was dumbo that was right past the no wasn't it always carousel? I know. I think it was always carousel. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. That, that, that is correct. Uh, what did I read then on yesterland? I think I misread something.

I've seen that. It's like the only attraction that did, did like a full flip, but I think what that is, is the flip of Dumbo and, uh, um, and teacups.

I believe this is what I, this is what I am seeing. Um, did I need to say that? Was that a fight that I needed to win? No, I believe. This is what I am seeing. Did I need to say that? Was that a fight that I needed to win? No. I guess so. I like to be accurate.

Yes, it was. I think. Hozier needs to be pronounced correctly, and I need to know where the teacups were. Dizzyland, Fantasyland, I feel like it's the sort of thing people think, well, this has been there forever. This has been just like this forever. And it has been there since 55. Yeah, yeah.

But it's important to correct those people and say they're wrong. They're dead wrong. And it's important to shame them and make them know where they're incorrect. I don't know. I'll look it up. I think so. Disney World, too, you might be confusing stuff. And Disney World, Fantasylandanded in the 2010s.

Maybe I, okay. And stuff open and closed. Mad Tea Party was located where the King Arthur carousel sits today. That's what it says on Yesterland. Okay. But I do think here, I'm looking at 59. This is just a piece of art, by the way. But what I'm looking at is that you walk in and carousel's right there.

Now maybe carousel moved a little bit. Maybe it backed up a little bit. That might be what happened. Yeah. That might be what it's saying then. Yeah, yeah. I wish I'd put a financial value on this correction, though. Oh, you wanted to bet?

Yeah. Oh, okay. It's too late. It is too late, yeah. I mean, you can't bet in reverse. No, it wouldn't really make sense. I think you just have to look in your heart and think about what you owe me. Well, but isn't it unclear? It's unclear versus this.

So I don't know. The bet would have completely gone through. Maybe we haven't officially solved it yet. I don't know that we've officially solved it. Well, look, and to go back and be looking at different... I already got... I got so many tabs open. I still got Wabos open. I got Lockdown 2020 open. Yeah, no, and to go back and be looking at different... I got so many tabs open. I still got Wabos open. I got Lockdown 2020 open.

And we should still keep talking, I guess. I guess so. What do we think about Disneyland as opposed to the other versions, especially Magic Kingdom version? Well, I like the little pavilion that Magic Kingdom's kind of in. But I

like the lantern. I mean, the lanterns at night are really lovely. Yeah. That said, can't operate in the rain. Has to do some cleanup after a rain. Is this still the case or is that an old? Because I saw that reported, but I feel like I've been there in the rain and it is going. It might be heavy rain, but there is something with the turntables in the rain, at least in the past.

Right. I mean, I think it's better open air. Yeah. But yeah, I'm not mad at it with the thing, with the coverings, but yeah, I think it's better open air. I'm mad. I am mad at it.

I think that they're cowardly to put those overhangs on. Disney World did. Actually, Disney World opened, I think, with it open air. And then a couple of years, well, with the weather and the hurricanes, they decided maybe we need something. And I think that's a fear-based move. And I think you can't run forever. And I think there was a lot of cowardice on the part of those people.

Scott's been watching a lot of Silicon Valley hustle grind set, can't live a fear-based life kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. I think that we should start our own Save Splash Mountain campaign to get rid of that covering. We should do a whole like yeah a petition there was when they uh you know made it harder to spin in the early 2000s i saw an excerpt from like the associated press sacramento b about like people like it's just not as fun you know it's all these lawsuits and everyone's so safety conscious now

and it's just like god damn it history really does rhyme this shit never changes wait go wait go on i mean i mean just every time there's a change people go like it's just not the same as it used to be sure you know yeah but aren't we here complaining about all the new shit they've done lately? Well, I think I meant more like safety-minded stuff. Finally, though, we're right about it. That's what's interesting. The thing is, yes, everyone who did it before

was not right, and that's what makes us special and cool is that we are right and everything we say is right. We are precision complainers, too. We complain about the exact right things to complain about. No, never incorrect.

It's like the Tobias Arrested Development. Has that ever worked before? No. But this time, this time for us, it might just work. Similar, yes. But yes, I think open air, cooler, nicer. But yeah, the other ones, they want to save money, I bet. Save maintenance money.

You think it's that too? Well, probably. I mean, if it gets a beating during a storm, they're probably covering it. They can run it, I guess, during a storm too. That's part of it. Well, we as guests shouldn't be fear-based either. It is our duty to go on this ride in the rain. I'd love to go on it in the rain. And then you get the closest

to an actual teacup experience if the ride vehicle is flooding. Oh, it's filled up. Yeah. And you're waist deep in water. Dirty water resembling tea. Smacked in the face by dirty tea water. Wow. Yeah. Jason, what liquid would you want

in your teacup if you could choose? If you had to do the ride with a liquid. Michael, I feel like I would put tea bags in all my pockets. It's early in the day, English breakfast. Late in the day, like chamomile. Okay. I'm just saying you don't have to do this on the sly. This is an official Disney sponsored event where you could just put in Diet Pepsi if you wanted.

You could do the ride with Diet Pepsi. Well, I think the bubbles would be irritating. That's fair. Even on a two and a half, three minute. Orange juice, cranberry juice. Well, that's definitely going to be irritating. Yeah, cranberry juice. I like what he's thinking with his first answer, too, which is saving money on expensive tea,

not having to buy tea at the parks by bringing your own from home letting the tea cup fill up and then just sopping it up from the inside you got some milk jugs like okay you can bring that home for later yeah you can scoop it up like yeah i need i'm moving slow i get now the tea cup and then just out of a backpack just start scooping the tea into milk jugs. Yeah, and then you're just leaving the park. Then all you have to do is leave the park with just a conspicuous backpack

that you just play it cool and pretend that you don't have eight full jugs in there of dirty, of tea bags mixed with rainwater. You just get like, oh, I'm a sponsorship from Lipton, the official tea of Disney. I've got the Lammy. I've got a laminate. It says Lipton on it.

Little Lipton boy. By the way, that's a little Lipton boy I love. And I love saying, I'm so sick of saying the big complicated word laminate. Why? There's never been a cute nickname

for laminate. Lammy, adorable. Well, people say, yeah, you get a Lammy, you go backstage for the Wobbo, the Wobbo gang. why there's never been a cute nickname for laminate lamby adorable people say yeah you get a lamby you go backstage for the wobbo the wobbo gang for the wobbo show yeah yeah um i no i do like this though and then i like that two months later maybe you have a friend over you want to actually you know what the uh let's keep hanging out you want to come up are you thirsty yeah you want to drive 90 minutes to anaheim and help me with some-

Well, I'm saying this is, I think, that you're just in your apartment two months later, and you want to come up? You want some tea or something? Yeah, I do. And then they're drinking it like, oh, this is delicious. I really like this. Who makes this? Well, it's funny.

I put a bunch of tea bags in my pocket at Disneyland and mixed it with rainwater two months ago. They call me the human tea bag. And there's nothing around. i don't mean that in any sort of suspicious sexual sense that said i was i do mean that in the in the sexual erotic sense as well i'm just saying separately two different things apply one name two things uh do you was the did the skyway go right over the buckets? Could you have dumped scalding hot water From the Skyway bucket into one of the teacups?

Or is it a little bit to the side? I don't know the geography of that At least some sugar Could you have run an empty Skyway bucket With hot water Tipped it Dropped it into one of the teacups I think you are in prime position.

Yeah, I think so. And then the next one- Maybe you need a little bit of projection. It's not directly under you, but- Okay. And then one of the buckets would have a bunch of sugar and we could have honey in another one. So you could sort of make your perfect tea.

So you're terrorizing the teacup riders. Well, in my mind, it's sort of a fun, cute little thing. You don't have to have a rider in there necessarily. You could make tea perfectly with two rides. It would be kind of a cute Rube Goldberg style. So this would have to be arranged with the park. I think so. Half an hour.

But yeah, I guess you could do the gorilla version of it with people, with somebody who says a bucket of scalding hot water on the skyway and dumps it out of there. And then somebody just throws handfuls. Well, that's why Obama's friend got escorted out at Disneyland, but Obama got escorted out cause he was puffing on a sea. They were trying to tea cup.

They were trying to, yeah. Yeah. Excuse me. No, no drinks on the skyway. Oh no, it's fine.

This is, Oh, you mean my, my gigantic bucket of scalding hot fine. This is, oh, you mean my gigantic bucket of scalding hot water? This is therapeutic. I'm gonna put my feet in this on the, feet are killing me. Go ahead, sir.

Just to be able to walk for the rest of the day. Yeah, it's bunion treatment. Oh, very well. Okay, I didn't realize. What else about this? They also, in terms of early day aggro cups, which I think it was either late 55 or 56 that they added breaks,

like something to a max speed. But you got a good six months where you could just go as fast as you cared to go. I knew there was something left off the checklist. What do you mean? Of building the teacups oh i forgot to write the word praise i put everything else uh there's very funny old archival footage of the disneyland band riding the teacups like one instrumentalist in each one that's fun yeah

like that um they also. When this thing opened, half teacups weren't decorated. They didn't have doors. There wasn't the disc inside, so you just had to find another weighted. I guess, okay, so that stopped people from spinning just crazily. Right.

You could just... How else would you do it? I've definitely ridden some off-brand teacups without the doors. It's just a hole and like they got gravitron with the spinning you're being pushed back yeah yeah you guys ever been anywhere because i i feel like i found this i found this at knots i think i found this at uh elitch gardens have you been anywhere is it's really it's kitty rides especially where you have to be it's it's like the uh the person at the grocery store uh on like taking the the the cap off of the bottle off of the liquor bottle where like

only the special little key does it that this is a thing on rides that likes the the ride operator who also starts it does the announcement at the beginning then has to go around to every single person in the ride with their special key in order to let them out. You ever been in on anything like that? I feel like. I think I have. Is that just a simple clock key, though?

A clock, well, I don't know. Do you know what a clock key is? What is a clock key? Like if you are winding a clock, like an old-fashioned mantelpiece clock. I have one in my office. You have a clock key. I've not bought a clock key because the mantelpiece,

we had one on the fireplace when I was growing up, and you had to wind it once a week or every couple weeks or something. Well, I'm going to say that the swing ride doesn't operate with a clock key. I think, you know, there's different sizes of clock key. On Amazon you can buy clock keys. Is a clock key bigger than a normal key? Wouldn't it just be a regular key that just does

a different thing? No, it's kind of like a tubular. It reminds me. That's all I was going to say. Of a very specific type of key not just a regular door a weird shaped key but the thing is with like an old style

clock you have to wind it will chime every hour on the hour and sometimes in the half hour do you have an old style clock? I did when someone was moving out and left a bunch of stuff you know where people leave like freebies stuff. Okay.

How big is this clock? I got this old clothes about two feet. Not a full like grandfather clock. No, no. Grandfather clocks, I think, operate differently, but you might have to watch. There are keys for grandfather clocks. There are keys. Okay.

I recall my grandmother having a grandfather clock that had a key you would insert. Michael, stop eating the grandfather clock key. Like Ducky, the Disney duck? Oh, the official magic key? I wasn't here for that episode. He eats a key? Yes, so Ducky is the official magic key mascot for Disneyland's magic keys. And there's a story that Ducky lived in Disneyland and loved it for many, many years.

And then a couple years ago, he ate a key at the bottom of the river. Bottom of the moat. Bottom of the moat. He ate it and now he can go a lot of different places in Disneyland. That is what they said. The narrative really, I was complaining about story. This is a real shitty story. It doesn't make any sense.

Ducky seems to exist primarily on Instagram reels and some website posts. But Ducky, yeah, he ate the key for no reason. We don't know why he ate the key. I know that you did this episode and I saw people saying, what are they talking about? I cannot find the source material. There are about three Instagram posts about Ducky and I wanted to get on top of it before anybody else did. Well, that was also, I think, a good good like scott's gone ducky time ducky gets his due yes come on out ducky scott and his allergic ears we can be little ducky boys that's the kind of thing you get on our patreon this is

what you get you get to hear about ducky the disney magic key duck 90 minutes about three videos of a duck that are that's right possible for you to find we have another one where we i was like hey you're rubbing your hands yeah like a little mischief boy well because i was mike we were driving home from here once i think and i was like what about an episode of this and he was like yeah i also was thinking about that. What was it? Maybe when Scott's, no, I'll tell you later. I'll remind you later. Come on, tell him.

Oh, just come on. Tell him, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Statue of Lew Wasserman. Statue of Lew Wasserman at Universal. You're not going to believe the statue of Lew Wasserman at Universal. He disappeared right after he moved to Trimedot.

I haven't checked in on Lew Wasserman. These motherfuckers be so crazy. As soon as their dad, the narc, is gone, they start rubbing the, you know, we can do this and do Lou Wasser, but... What is it? Where was this? This was originally in Universal Studios Florida, kind of as the San Francisco area transitions into New York.

It was moved to open up the space for like crowds and parade floats. And now he has since gotten a pedestal in the central park area by the water. But at some point he disappeared from there. And so I don't know if he's been put back. Lou Wasserman, of course, uh,

an early head of Universal Films. Something like that. To encourage the development of the ride. We haven't done the episode yet. We haven't done the episode yet. Guess what? I just tricked you. You just said all of the pertinent information in the episode.

There will be no episode. Never stopped us before. Back to the teacups. Yeah, shit. Have you seen... I found a website of a bunch of knockoff teacups that you could get yes let's hear them i i have i have a couple well these are the one i have doesn't have any fun names but it's like it's like sinorides.com and you can buy s-i-n-o-r-i-d-e-s and you can get like um this

is for like renting them yeah oh i see or sale i mean i have not seen sino rides like you can get one that kind of looks like you've got like paint coming out of all the cups it's like very carnival style jason here look at blue and red and yeah it looks paint is yeah jason's like i know teacups i think yeah yeah i'm looking up blue wasterman shit you but you guys have your fun. The real fun's over here. Yeah, and there's a fancy, there's like, you can get like a fancier

like teacup ride with like a, you know, this is more like the great mother would have. That's what you would take the queen on. Right, exactly.

This is the queen's teacup ride. So, yeah, there's. Because it is often like a flat ride. I mean, usually, yeah. Once in a while. It can be put on a flat and moved, you know. Yeah, so there's a lot ride. I mean, usually, yeah. Once in a while. It can be put on a flat and moved. Yeah, so there's a lot of different knockoff versions.

I guess, yeah, they want you to buy this. They don't want you to rent these. These are like they want you to permanently install them. There's ones that I've found. There's one that used to be at Fiesta Village at Knott's Berry Farm. I don't think it's still there anymore. There's one called Hat Dance. I don't think that's still there anymore. There's one called Hat Dance. I don't think that's there.

In a sombrero, I think. I went on this one in Gilroy Gardens. This is one of the more odd, fun, just simple rides ever. Garlic Twirl, where you're in a big garlic knob. That's fun. Bulb? Bulb.

Oh, right. Bulb, I think. Garlic knot is like a thing you get in an Italian restaurant. That's a good idea, though, too. Jason. Oh, right. Bulb, I think. Garlic knot is like a thing you get at an Italian restaurant. That's a good idea, though, too. Jason. Yeah, yeah. Garlic knot ride? You're in the mechanism that's getting all of the seasoning onto the garlic knots.

Oh, yeah. Well, are you saying this is at Gilroy Gardens? No, no. This is raw garlic. Oh, okay. But a hypothetical garlic knot ride would be good. Yeah. In a Pizza Hut theme park oh now i've got a lot of ideas immediately well they should really do honestly they should do the what is the yum brands it should be it should be yum yum lands yeah i would help them with

portals that take you or like if you're in i don't know, like, I don't know how you get from one to the other, but the realms of KFC. Well, okay. Well, hold on. I'll fight you to get my idea out first. No, you go ahead. Then you both say the same thing at the Luxor Hotel and Casino that was practical but also a boat ride. It took you to the room, yeah. It took you around the casino floor.

So if you rode a river of Pepsi around the outside of the park and you could get off at each land similar to the disneyland railroad yeah yeah and go to the colonel's kingdom and that's good i was gonna say you get into you can either come into pizza hut land or exit pizza land through a big stuffed crust tunnel oh that's great which is yeah like they're hollowed out crust with a little cheese on the walls yes yeah well and i guess what big tipped over bucket, obviously, for Colonel's Kingdom. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Who would you want to see reflected in Pizza Hut? Are there characters from Pizza Hut? And we aren't even, I forgot Taco Bell. I mean, obviously, that opens up an entire thing. Scott, do not ruin this for us. Pizza Hut. Do not ruin this with big New Yorker m mishmash stuff what are you talking about oh i thought you were getting to donald trump being the spokesman for pizza huts the big new

yorker no i can't do you not remember this commercial basically but what are you what i guess because you say because he asked where like if there were any characters and the first character you thought of was Donald Trump. With the president. Yeah. Because I couldn't remember a Burger King's kids club. Well, right. Pizza Hut is low on big, famous mascot characters, but that is so funny that the one mascot you think of when Pizza Hut comes up is the president.

Well, that and the bucket logo. Well, what about the Ringo Starr Pizza Hut commercial with the monkeys? That's a famous oh i'm sorry mine was too obscure yeah i think we i think everyone i do remember it but i didn't say that's like as popular as the noid was from dominoes i'm just saying well okay so that would be that would be a facet of uh of pizza hut land is the uh a walk around donald trump but with a sign somebody else somebody's walking around Donald Trump with a sign. Somebody else.

Somebody's walking next to him with a sign with an arrow. That's an apology sign that says this is Trump due to his appearance in a pizza commercial. This does not reference his presidency. Right. Right. Don't be mad. Yeah. That'll fix it.

I mean, it could be the Chinese Donald Trump. What? The guy. There's a guy. What's happened in the last five minutes there's a guy in china who does a very good donald it's very funny how does that get around the issue he walks huh he can be okay fix it he can be the character ad we will do a chinese we will do the chinese donald trump no further explanation needed. He walks around Chengdu and he shows people the sights. And he works at the American

Pizza Hut Park, but no one's mad at him because he's not. What is the type of online where you find the things that we've never heard of? Well, this is pretty popular. This is a TikTok. Cut to comments. Jason is right. He knows the thing and Joy and Scott are dumb. They don't know

the thing. And also all the sex things he mentions, Mike and Scott should know too. All right. We should, if we commit to how we're going to, although I think, I think Yumlands is worth fleshing out. That's a whole other episode.

Further in the future. But if we're going to stick to the construct that we have done for Class of 55, where we have brought back our old mechanism of keep it as is as is plus it up burn it down for the insurance money how do we feel after 70 years of the teacups yeah i mean i really was thinking about this of like what is any what is a way to plus it up it's hard to improve on perfection i guess maybe you could make the mechanism a little easier to turn it somehow yeah like the way you bring that back a little bit like the way you turn it now yes there's a

lot of resistance and it does feel like you work have to work pretty hard to turn it is there a way to make you turn it but that doesn't it's not like you actually are using like one-to-one energy to turn it with resistance is there a way to just kind of like turn it and make it feel like you're turning it but there's some sort of motor underneath that's actually doing the turning that doesn't make it as hard on your wrists and your arms huh do you know i'm saying like i guess like like don't like right now you are putting in the work to turn yes i guess it would be fake in some ways i'm not saying i want i'm i'm thinking about this like because yeah you if you really want to go fast it feels like you get off with sore arms maybe that's not good i'm just saying that you could change it to make it was probably an easier

mechanism but i think we overrate how sore you get on these okay it's not so much was made of the canoes and then we did the canoes, and I'm like, what has everybody been complaining about? This is not so. The canoes, I think you guys. It's not like I'm Mr. Strong Man. I just think it's not so great. A little more of a workout with the canoes than the teacups. Yes, certainly.

I do feel it on web slingers, another complaint that I do feel very exhausted. But I guess that's because nobody's guiding me. No mechanism is, I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing. I just throw my arms around, and I guess i do it in a way that hurts when kermit's upset like that's what you do on spider-man or excited uh often excited well nothing destroys my arms like toy story uh by the end of toy story my wrists my wrists and my arm feel feel crazy yeah i'm going so fast i'm going so hard on that. I want to win so badly that I'm going sicko mode.

That's what I'm doing. Which I'm going to guess gets you the fourth one up. Yeah, I'm not even- The only one that is possible to get. I know. If you work incredibly hard. Once in a while, I will get a couple of the secret things that open up the boards. Those are fun to get.

And if you get those and I can do pretty well, then maybe I can get up the third tier. Yeah. But God, that's so difficult. Yeah. So other than that, it's like the ride vehicles are perfect. The setting is pretty perfect. The music, which is kind of like, which is really fun and is very Alice in Wonderland appropriate. It's the unbirthday song.

I suppose once in a while they could give me a different song. Now it doesn't have to be a popular rock and roll so it doesn't have to be Pink's Raise a Glass. It could be a different Disney song perhaps. A different Pink song. Any Pink song would be fine. Any Pink song. Let's get would be fine. Any Pink song.

Let's get this party started, whatever it was called. I know four or five Pink songs. If you won an after hours event that's all Pink songs and the limiters on the teacups are removed. Well, I want Reckless Night at Disneyland or something where you pay $200 and you sign a waiver. And then, but I don't want pink. Full force teacups.

If it's Reckless Night, I don't want, I want something crazy being played. You want the perch. I want Slayer being played while I'm on the teacups or something. That's a different vibe. Well, you know what? It's funny you mention this because in pre-thinking about what a plus it up might be, and also in looking up uh weird off model not off model but just other places that have done teacup type attractions uh six flags great america is the one in chicago yes um they have a ride that during the day is called chubasco and it's a pretty standard teacup i would say with some notably good cups and a big i it's

what i'm looking at is too dark to see what's in the middle, but just good glassware sculpture in the middle. But at night, or at least at Fright Fest, they have remade it into something called Terror Twister. And let me give you guys a vibe. For the listener, just picture very dark lighting, strobe lights, and then this kind of music. Ooh, that's like purple lighting what is that song right here i don't know what the song is offhand it is called my invisible

friend they also seem to play something called wolves of darkness okay that's now it's a scary title if i've ever heard one yeah but i could see, that did just open up, well, Six Flags can do it. Doing like a scary, an after dark version of the teacups where you feel as though you are trapped in some kind of horrible saw mechanism. Yeah. And almost made to spin. Like if someone's yelling at you, faster, faster. Yeah. Make it, I think it's, it's it very easily i think lends to terrifying

experience yeah i think so too i think music yeah especially the music and a little lighting change could really do it i mean a full fantasy land halloween villains overlay of some kind feels like a kind of simple idea that would be very popular. There's a lot of villain songs. That's true, yeah. Or lines or speeches or stuff. Is there one that sticks out to you that you'd want to hear on the teacups? Oh, probably something from Wish.

Oh, okay. Is there a villain in Wish? There is a villain in Wish. I forget who the villain is. Okay. Because I want to hear help. What's the opposite of a star? A moon.

A twin. A moon. Oh, my God. A moon. A big scary moon wants to eat the star yeah that's yeah perfect oh that's i'm glad i haven't seen wish too scared what about uh hellfire on the teacups oh there we go oh and then it kind of becomes what is it within like then you're kind of like you are just inside the tumultuous feelings of. You're inside lust.

What's his character? Frodo. Frodo. Frollo. I don't think that's now Frodo. Frollo. I think it's Hoosier. Frollo is close.

Claude Frollo. Claude. So, all right, so the overlay is Claude Frollo. Claude. So, all right. So the overlay is Claude Frollo's erotic nightmares. Oh, God. Yeah. Yeah. And then you light it with fire colors.

Right. Just put some orange and red. And then like, you know, sexy silhouettes of Esmeralda projected on the side of the Matterhorn. And there's maybe, you know, maybe there's something phallic about that. That's like, you know, it's not explicitly said, but if you want to imagine that the Matterhorn is Claude Frollo's misshapen dick. I mean, I do want to imagine that.

You stupid fool. Like the Matterhorn is just, I was going to imagine that. You stupid fool. Like the Matterhorn. I'll never. I was going to say it's him. It's a giant version of him where it's his big mouth when it's goofy hat. Hellfire. You know, we've never, we've talked, we recently, you know, we've talked about like feeling like we want rides with different emotions, not just thrills and chills.

And we were talking about wanting to feel melancholy, sadness, sort of tranquility. But we really don't have a good lust ride. We don't have a ride that really simulates lust. Well, we had Nights in White Satin, but it's gone. Well, right. But that wasn't, was that lust? Did you feel lust? That was more of a-

I don't know. When you were thinking about that- Lights and candles turned the lights down. Oh, you think of that one. Nights in White Satin. I think we just discovered Jason's biggest makeout song. Oh, yeah, wow. Not a lot happening at those dorm rooms.

Oh, he's playing Nights in White Satin again, and I heard a door slam. That's one of the more newer songs you've been listening to, though. More recent. Pre-Jane, before all the 2020s music and oh he's parking back up i hear boogie woogie boogie boogie boogie boogie boogie oh boy i'm just too excited by my songs um anyway yeah no i i i think that's it i think what was the name of it again, just for my brain?

Claude Frollo's erotic nightmares of Claude Frollo. We need a Frollo ride in the park, in American Park. And then it just ends with a blood-curdling scream. And you're left to determine, is that him stabbing himself in the heart or ejaculating? It is up to- Choose your own adventure. Yeah, yeah. Your interpretation.

I did a search on Twitter. It seems like the Lou Asterman statue came back at the beginning of the year, but as of late March, it's gone again. I was correct. Do people keep stealing it? Is there a whole thing? Is there a high school graduating class that Dr. Phillips High School right behind Universal is playing some pranks?

It's like a whole senior prank, as they say. Yeah, seniors rule. Every year in Orlando, there's a senior prank to steal the Lou Wasserman. On rival school, Universal Studios. Right. Yeah. prank to steal the on rival school universal studios right yeah uh i mean oh man if you're a high school senior oh what i wouldn't give to get my hands on lou wasser yeah seniors roll lou wasser and drools well that's true all right uh unless there's closing thoughts on the way out

the door i think you survived so podcast the ride well i was just gonna say capacity wise i feel like i couldn't see a good number because i think per ride it said 72 which be four people per teacup that's too many all right i don't think that i think that's too much on that note you survived podcast the right maybe it's too what do you how do you feel about that i I think, well, and then I saw 1,400 people per hour and I'm like, that's, I feel like if everything's running exactly, like the ride is exactly as long.

It takes everyone like 90 seconds to get in, in and out, you know. Hellfire. This false capacity makes me burn. You survived podcast the Ride. For three bonus episodes every month, check out Podcast the Ride, The Second Gate,

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