Podcast: The Ride - Tivoli Gardens with Beth Appel

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

Beth Appel (The Sex Lives of College Girls) is here to recap her trip to Denmark's finest, quaintest theme park, Tivoli Gardens. A park that was so good, many elements of it were stolen by that unscrupulous thief Walt Disney. "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (Tokyo DisneySea Version) with Matt Mazany" episode is up at: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide  FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever Dog Warning, the following podcast may contain a clumsy ballerina, big beers, a horse with a bright smile, and an elderly clown's wedding ring. All this plus Beth Appel joins us to talk Tivoli Gardens on today's podcast, The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, or as it's called today, Podcast Turin. I'm Jason Chardon, joined as always, Mike Harlson. I'm here, and I'm not Danish at all, but I will try to pronounce some of the words and embarrass myself, I'm afraid. Oh, I'm gonna 100% guarantee I'm gonna be mispronouncing stuff left and right. On a recent episode, I called the actor Barry Keoghan, Barry Keegan.

I thought it was Barry Keogh. So I'm just saying like recently I felt like I've been doing a bad job pronouncing a lot of things, including this poor actor's name who I'm mistreating with my knowledge, my lack of knowledge. So prepare for it is what I'm telling the audience today. To get mad at me and to be upset with me. Okay. Especially our Danish listeners. Yeah.

Well, welcome to our Danish listeners. We're talking about the historic Tivoli Gardens today, among other attractions in Denmark and around the world. Our guest today, I didn't even ask what credit she like she's a writer on the sex lives of college girls the former artist director of the ucb theater it's beth appell hi beth hello are those credits right were those good uh those were both accurate okay cool yeah okay and i i like that you've had so many Sex Lives of College Girls writers on this podcast. We have.

Yes. Well, you and Matt Warburton. That's right. This is a test. I've been going back and forth. Justin Noble, we've been emailing. Oh, he still has not gone on. He has not.

Because I think I initially emailed him a year went by and he emailed me back saying, I'm so sorry. He's a very busy man. I'm sure he is. And then we were just trying to pinpoint and then we just got. So Justin, we'll have you on soon. Eventually, yeah.

So Scott Gairott garner not here today he's out on assignment uh but we're so happy to have you here yes and you to be here you um uh pitched these topics to me the denmark topics but before we get to that, we have covered Las Vegas attractions in the past. Themed casinos, former themed parks in Vegas. Yeah. But one of the blank spots that we haven't covered is the Excalibur Hotel, the very themed Excalibur Hotel. And I wanted to ask you if you would tell the story. You have a very specific Excalibur Hotel. And I wanted you to ask you if you would tell the story. You have a very specific Excalibur experience.

I do, but it might not be as much Excalibur related as you think it is. Really? Possibly. Oh, okay. Because you mean about getting married? Yes. I didn't get married there. You didn't get married there?

No, but I did stay there for two nights. Oh, okay. So can you tell us about the pillows? Can you tell us about the blankets? Because that could be interesting. No, I don't remember those. But I eloped to Vegas to do an Elvis wedding because it was not possible to get a marriage license in the correct amount of time to then do a city hall marriage during COVID. And it was just easier to drive to Vegas and quickly get married there.

And I was in a hurry to get married. I was like, I got to do this now. So we stayed at the Excalibur in deep, deep, deep COVID. Because that was one of the hotels you could stay at where you could get the limo package to take you to the chapel where we got married. Okay's good that's a connection to the excalibur the connection yeah which we we chose this chapel because we had randomly seen on instagram that david harbour and lily allen got married there and we were like that looks fun um not really a fan per se of either of them but they did get married at the same place and then

so we did that we stayed at the Excalibur it was like the we thought it would be a cheap cheesy place to stay and it was it was and it really was and we had to we had brought like champagne with us we had to request a um refrigerator and they brought it on like an AV cart that like a TV would have been brought in on in like, you know, a middle school class. And it just was so loud. We eventually had to unplug it. The fridge? Yeah, it was like a mini fridge on an AV cart

that made so much noise. So I would say the Excalibur has maybe seen better days. Yeah, my experience there has always been losing at the penny slots in very bad vibes. Yeah. Well, the vibes during COVID were especially bad. I would say maybe worse than ever.

Yeah. Yeah. Did you have your wedding meal at the Dick's last resort in Excalibur? Most of the restaurants were closed when we were there. Great. So we went to a restaurant called Tommy Bahamas. Whoa, yeah. And then we went to the Yard House.

There was not a lot of places that we could eat. Tommy Bahamas, we've talked about this on the show, is a clothing brand. I didn't know you could, yes. You can also eat a place, they'll serve you a hamburger as well. I couldn't know it was you could yes you can also eat a place where they'll serve you a hamburger as well i couldn't believe it i was like why where's their dinner at tommy bahamas right but it was just a restaurant and we wore bride and groom masks and the purpose was give

us free things and it totally worked yeah absolutely and i wish masks were still a little more normalized so that we could lie oh yeah like any sort of occasion you could put on a mask yeah and sort of get yeah birthdays right yeah uh anniversary in mourning in mourning r.i.p grandma please yeah give me a free mai tai at tommy bahamas my grandma died tropical mozzarella sticks. What do they do at Dick's Last Resort when they're trying to mourn, help you mourn? Do they still call you gay, but then also say, I'm so sorry for your loss? They have to keep in character and what the tradition of Dick's is, which is just to call

you gay. Yeah. But then, yeah, they have to show some sort of respect for whoever you lost. Absolutely. This is really a side note, but I worked at ed de bevics in high school yeah yeah and um so i'm no stranger to a place where you're supposed to kind of razz the customers um are you from chicago no they open an ed de bevics in denver wow really and yeah and i worked there for like um a couple months weeks maybe and um they brought in a specialist from the beverly hills ed to bevics to try to rehabilitate the restaurant and like teach the waiters like how to perform and stuff and then um it and then

i showed up to work one day and it was closed forever and they didn't tell you ahead of time they did not tell me i just showed up for my shift and there was like a sign on the door that was like closed forever that is in like apropos with the vibe of ed it's like fuck you we're closed it was on theme for sure wasn't it did the sign say fuck you were closed or something or no? No. I didn't say fuck you. It would say like, screw you probably.

Yeah. It said, yeah, it did. It said, screw you, we're closed. Screw you, we're closed. Wow. Okay. So Jason, were you expecting like she was going to say we got married on the top of the Excalibur?

Yeah. I don't know why I could tell that you thought something different happened at Excalibur, but I knew it was not right. Dressed as a king and queen on the top with an inflatable dragon or something. We took pictures. Yeah, well, you had posted on Instagram ages ago. And I'm like, I guess they have a wedding chapel with an Elvis inside the Excalibur. I think I just saw the details and mushed it together.

Now, this is one of, it does cover one of our favorite vacation topics, which is a bunch of crazy pain in the ass shit, like a giant loud refrigerator on a high school AV cart and a limo from Excalibur to the Elvis wedding chapel. Yeah, and a limo from excalibur to the elvis wedding chapel yeah and the limo was disgusting

and there were open beers in it when we got in it from the previous people and the limo driver was very mean to us like very similar to edna bevick yeah it was an edna bevick style limo ride wow yeah are you sure they were just not opening the beers to be polite? So you could just get in and have a sip of cold one? I didn't test it because, again, it was October of 2020. So whether or not it was just a polite beer, too risky. Okay. Yeah.

Well, in case, yeah. So would you recommend the limo service from the Excalibur in general or perhaps not? I think if you are getting married at a chapel in Vegas, your standards are such, and I include myself in this, so I'm allowed to say this, that you don't care that much about the classiness of your wedding. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's look into if there is any sort. I don't even know if there's a wedding chapels in the main strip hotels.

I feel like there's not. I've never seen one. no in the big own stuff owned by like mgm grand and stuff i don't think so i think you that would be a different wedding experience than that yes that would be like shut like it down like that would be very expensive i feel like yeah to get the full king and queen ceremony at the excalibur even david harbour and lily allen couldn't afford that right and. And they're rich. And they're rich. Yeah. Rich with friends and money.

Yeah. Well, great. Well, I'm glad we cleared that up. I'm sorry. I should have told you sooner. You actively, I feel like, did not tell me. I forgot you even mentioned it. And then as soon as you brought it up just now, I was like, oh, there's been a misunderstanding.

Look, it's all gravy i mean the story was worth it i can tell you're mad at me but we'll work it out he's furious i can tell yeah i'm all like the hulk i'm always angry to be fair jason will say well i have a big story about a hotel and then it'll be like the story is that the sheets weren't on the bed or something and that'll be it so like this is actually this is right in the zone of what he is interested in oh great okay yeah but now hold on a minute if the sheets were not on the bed and i checked into a hotel room that would be very unusual it would be unusual but it's not like oh my god an amazing story well it depends on you know you've only said the beginning of it i'd like to hear the middle and the end

i just told the story though that jason'd like to hear the middle and the end. I just told the story, though, that Jason's like, that is exciting. What you're talking about is exciting. So I should have stepped it down. There was a time when you went to an Airbnb in San Diego and the sheets were wet. Oh, yes. The sheets were wet and there were dabs of hand lotion. And I was like, I don't think I want to stay here.

How did you know it was hand lotion? He tasted it. I think I saw the bottle sitting out. Okay. And the guy had also said like oh you're my second Airbnb guest the first was last night and he's like yeah sorry man I just threw the comforter in the

wash and I put it on the bed and I'm like I feel like you buy a second set yeah my first guest was last night it was Buffalo Bill he greased himself up he got into bed he put the lotion in the bed I mean he also was very late giving me the keys and instead of meeting in the lobby he pulled up a giant SUV on a street corner and kind of tossed them to me. And I was like, this is not a great experience already. One star. All right.

Well, we'll think about this and we'll remember, Jason. You know what we should do an episode on your top five hotel stories? Here's my Excalibur story. Oh, wait. We're doing more Excalibur content? Oh we're doing more excalibur came up i well no because i the one time i went there was when i i kept doing the my vegas get there's these games you can play on your phone and earn like rewards like free nights or free play okay and i had racked up a lot and i could just kept cashing in free play and i got to the

excalibur and there was a long line for the players club and we were in line there was a much older woman with long braided purple and blonde hair making out with a much younger man in line like full-on teenagers in line at a theme park making out uh-huh and so we're in this long line and we get up to the window and they're like you have cashed in too much free play you cannot claim this i don't understand how an app and a what is happening it's an app you play at a casino no you play at home. It's like slot machine games you play on your phone, and then it gives you a free appetizer or a free $25 in slot play. I see.

So then you go to the place where you got the free thing from your app. And then you have to activate it at the counter. Okay, is the story finished? Yeah, that's it. And that was at Excalibur. Yeah. I just want you to recalibrate like cigarettes i want you to recalibrate what you think is interesting now going forward on the podcast

because what jason just told us his excalibur story was that he was in line to cash in at points and he saw a lady kissing a man like and that was the story like nasty kissing and she had interesting colored hair right but she didn't like go, hey, Jason, join us or something. It was just like we saw people kissing. So I just like going forward, that's the bar is what I'm saying. This is summer 2021. So still very weird vibes in Vegas. Yeah. But I had racked up so many points because I was sitting at home during 2020 just playing these Vegas games.

Where were you trying to use the points? A restaurant? No, I was trying to use slot play. I was trying to use Excalibur. You were in line for a slot machine? Huh? If Scott were here, he would be so upset by now that we were talking about an app. He would be screaming at Jason right now.

Stop talking about points. I am taking advantage of his absence. All right. Okay. I'll ask further questions later. I had already cashed in free play at Luxor, Bellagio, and New York, New York, and they said you can only do three casinos. They cut him off.

Like a bartender cutting off a drunk. I understand. They cut him off from his free points via an app. I did win like $100 at Luxor so it wasn't always not lost. It's like if a mom was it's like if a mom was couponing too much and she went to a Ralph's and they were like, lady,

look, you're cut off. No more deals for you right now. You're too good at this. And then she saw a woman and a man kissing. And then told all of her friends about it. It was nasty. It was a May December. It was an expression and a man kissing. And then told all her friends about it. It was nasty. It was a May, December. It was an expression of love, Jason.

No, it was weird. There was nothing. You don't know what ages they were. Could have been 25 and 60. Madonna's dating a young man right now. Cher is dating a 30-year-old. Cher is 77 years old. Are you going to say Cher is inappropriate?

No, I'm not. One of our national treasures? She is a national treasure. You better not say that. Look, we all got through 2020 in our own way. Some of us were playing flash games on our phone. Some of us were like quickly eloping to Vegas. That's right.

Out of boredom? Out of necessity love? Beth, did you get married out of boredom? I was like, God, I'm bored. I got to get married. I got to get the fuck out of LA. It was a good diversion. Absolutely.

If you're bored, I recommend eloping to Vegas. Yeah. I think our listeners, yeah. If you're bored right now, turn this episode off and head to the Excalibur. Drive. Well, you can't get married there. Well, right. I did get the limo deal.

Yeah. I want you to have your experience. To get the limo deal. Yeah. Okay. Great. Well, let's get on the planeo deal. Yeah. I want you to have your experience. To get the limo deal. Yeah. Okay. Great. Well, let's get on the plane at Harry Reid International and fly to Denmark. Oh.

That used to be McCarran Airport. They changed Harry Reid after he passed. Yeah. The Vegas airport. Yeah. Senator Harry Reid. Senator, yeah. You were in Denmark.

Yes. And you would text me that you're like have you done episodes on tivoli tivoli gardens yeah and uh the other place that you always seem more excited about is a park called bakken i would say i'm equally excited about equally excited okay okay tell us about bakken okay so bakken mean, you tell me about it. Bakken is the oldest amusement park in the world? Yes, they tout themselves as the oldest amusement park in the world. Tivoli Gardens, I saw conflicting reports that it is the second oldest theme park in the world.

Or third, I think. Third after a park in Vienna, Austria is number two. Yeah. I've only seen the third, the version where it's the third. I have seen second. I don't know. I don't know if Tivoli is trying to keep this narrative going that they're the second. I feel like it might be somewhere on their website

that they're claiming this, but I don't know. I didn't see any sort of write-up about a controversy. Well, I did carbon date some items that i found at each amusement park great and um i'll let you know when the results come back thank you yeah we would appreciate that that's what our listeners want is more carbon dating on this show to really be factual i you know honestly that's not too far off because bachan was established in 1583. And I believe there was some, like we had to go to the king and get permission. Right.

To make this an amusement area. You had to get permission from the king to do most things though in 1583, I would assume. You couldn't just go and get married in Vegas without the consent of the king. Well, sure. He's got to arrange the dirty limousine to arrive. Well, the king did officiate my wedding. Oh, okay. Oh, right.

The king. The king Elvis Presley. Right, of course. Yeah, it was by permission of the king that the guy built Tivoli Gardens, right? Bakken. Oh, and Tivoli Gardens. And Tivoli Gardens. Yes, both.

Both had permission of their, yes. Royalty. But yeah, Bakken is spring. I think both, yes. Both. Both. Royalty. But yeah, Bakken is spring. Freshwater spring was discovered. And it seemed like entertainment kind of sprung up around that. Oh, cool. Didn't know that. Yeah.

Well, yeah. So Bakken, I love amusement parks and theme parks of all kinds. And Bakken was like a 45-minute train ride outside of Copenhagen when we were there. So I was like, let's go to Bakken. And it's weird because it's a combination of like really old looking things and buildings and the demon clown Puro, which is like a whole thing, like a nightmare Commedia dell'arte mascot, like absolutely a terrifying,

every image of Puro at Bakken and Tivoli Gardens was a different kind of scary clown nightmare. You would say he almost has like a nun's, what do you call it? Habit? Habit. On his head. Yeah.

And then he's got like a white outfit. Like it almost looks religious. And then he has big like white poofs on the front of his big jacket. Yeah. Giant like dark eyebrows. Yes. In a lot of images.

And then like white face paint. Right. Yeah. he is scary. Yeah. We're covering this when Scott's not here because he would just be screaming. Is he scared of clowns? He doesn't care for them. Yeah, he would really hate Puro.

There's a lot of Puro. There's even, there's cartoon Puro and this other mascot, this moose mascot. Oh yeah. We didn't see the moose. Is that aachan or tivoli that's bachan yeah so bachan has like that old kind of old school stuff but the rides are like new ish and they look like they're from like a traveling fair kind of like they're the kind of rides you would expect if you were like driving through iowa and you're like oh there's a fair here right so it's it's just like it's like one loop of rides there's a fun house that was pretty cool that was kind of um like a little bit like the fun house in

greece at the end of greece which is my measure of a fun house and um but otherwise it's just like one loop and you get like we kind of got like bamboozled into getting like a full pass which was like really expensive it's like you can ride as many rides as you want although we were then told that I think you could only go on a ride like there was like a limit of like like 40 time like you could only you could only go 40 times a day yeah right of your past 40 times or something they just paid you as americans and like we know you're gonna get excessive so only 40 times okay yeah exactly they were like we we know your type. But I did immediately get motion sickness, which I've never gotten before. Really? But Bakken took me down so hard that I only went on maybe like four rides before I then just had to like sit and watch my husband go on rides without me.

He didn't care. He was like, I'm going on the rides. Sure. What ride took you down great question so do you know you know the kind of ride where you're you're in like your own little like airplane kind of thing and you control the wings and you can flip upside down yes yes have you seen the video of the woman who went and have you talked about her on the pod? I know what you're talking about. She went to the Mall of America and she would go every day and ride the like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles version of this ride.

And she's like, I've gotten up to a hundred flips. She was just like obsessed with it. She was like, one time the ride stopped and I kept flipping. They told me not to do that anymore. She is amazing. So we had seen that. And my husband was husband was like i want to go on this is a ride like that and i want to try to flip right so i was like let's go and although i was not trying to flip myself you like use your like body weight to shift from side to side and you put one wing up and one wing down and you just try to like it's like a competition there's like a leaderboard how many

who got the most flips that oh i didn't realize there was like a competition aspect to it. So this is a thing where like it spins around, but then also your individual like cars or whatever spins in like a circular motion, right? So it's like, it just goes around on an axis like the like regular, like an airplane ride, like a Dumbo ride or whatever. And then, yeah yeah you can spin upside down flip upside down right so i was not trying to flip because i'm not a daredevil but i was watching my husband try to flip and because i was looking to the side for the entire ride my

my brain's equilibrium got really messed up right so i got off that ride and i was like i feel weird and then i wrote a ride called polyp that was like a octopus ride that was very spinny and i got off that and i was like that's it for me in general i try to avoid polyps of all times yeah polyps are never good it turns out there's never a positive polyp yeah um uh bach in uh it's very unfortunate that you uh got the like unlimited ride risk because bach in is unique you see this in a lot of older parks where admission is free. Yeah. And then you pay per ride. That's right.

Or you just buy a full day pass. And then ride four rides. And then ride four rides. But there are weird, I watched some videos, there are weird nasty machines in the queue for like ATMs or like you can buy the single ride ticket. But many of them are like cash or coins only. Yeah, it was kind of overwhelming. And it's also like every single person in Scandinavia speaks English.

It's, of course, a shameful thing to be an American there and speak no other languages. Until we got to Bakken and the woman at the ticket counter, suddenly she't know oh yeah yeah we she can't answer a single question about whether or not we should get the all-day pass very convenient she's like i don't understand what you're saying so um so so she's so she's like i don't want to call you a mark but she maybe saw you as a mark perhaps she? She looked at us. She saw a couple of Commedia dell'arte clowns. And she said, I'm going to get... Yeah, she was like a teenager. She didn't care.

But the other thing that was really weird and fun and interesting was we were there during graduation time. Wow. And do you know about Danish teens when they graduate? I think I've seen some tech docs jason list everything you know about danish teens uh well i i think i think it's in danish teens but do they just get really hammered and just go crazy that's one thing they do okay yeah okay so he's partly right do you know one other thing about them from TikTok? No, but no, I'm excited and afraid to hear about it.

They wear little caps. They wear special little caps for like a week all around town that look kind of like train conductor caps, like decorated with their name and embroidered and stuff. So we were at Bakken with a ton of teens in like captain hats well now i'm interested wow so yeah truly like little like yeah like i'm trying to think of an example of a character that like a skipper from gilligan's island hats if that yes that does help a 50 year old show does that help wait what's his hat it's like it's like a captain he is like he wears the captain he wears captain um so to the captain's his hat it's like it's like a captain he is he wears the captain he

wears captain um so do the captain's hats worn by the teens do they like style each of them differently or are they all sort of the same they have they are similar they all kind of different colors okay but otherwise they look pretty much the same except they have names embroidered and the teens wear them everywhere with no real sense of irony. It seems like we were in the park and there were like, like, you know, 18 year old boys or whatever. And they were playing like park games, like the game where you throw the ball on a little trampoline. Have you seen that? I don't think so.

What do you mean? you bounce the ball you bounce the ball on a trampoline and then the person across from you has to like slam it back onto the trampoline and it bounces around okay they're tiny trampolines or a big it's a tiny trampoline okay and anyway so these guys were wearing you know teens wear big giant like jankos now basically yes so it's these teenage boys in big giant jeans shirtless captain hats shirtless captain hats on wow really yes and do you know is this is just like they've done this for hundreds of years or is this a newer teen trend this is an old school wow um tradition in denmark and they wear their captain hats they go around and they get super drunk and shirtless well the shirtless thing was it was like hot and they wear their captain hats they go around and they get super drunk and shirtless

well the shirtless thing was it was like hot and they were in the park so maybe that's just a danish thing in general well it's a teenage thing like teenage boy thing didn't you used to go slam a ball on a trampoline shirtless when you were a teenager i don't know maybe we slammed the ball not on a trampoline but somewhere we slam balls somewhere but i don't i wasn't we slammed the ball, not on a trampoline, but somewhere. We slammed balls somewhere. But I don't know. I wasn't looking to be shirtless a lot when I was a teen. Scandinavian people are fit, outdoorsy. Right, that's true.

Shirtless. And in general, like a higher quality of life from all the poles. Yeah, exactly. Happy, satisfied. Yeah. 37-hour work week from what I understand. Yeah, and it was the summer so like the sun's out all right you know never goes down and all yeah it gets dark very late yes there yeah

yeah we never saw full dark while we were awake like it's just like blackout curtains and you go to bed oh okay yeah interesting yeah well i think i've been begging jason to wear like a captain's hat regularly for years. That's not a joke. I just need to buy him one, I think, to make it happen. Wait, what do you, I have one. That's true, you do. But it's not, but that's more of like a bit captain's hat.

I want like a nice fitted one for you. Oh, yeah. These are nice. Yes. They're nice. It sounds because they're embroidered. So. Yeah, they're, they're like high end.

Yeah. Yeah, they're like high end. At first I was imagining like, you know that thing like colleges, freshmen all had to wear little beanies? What? You know, I thought this was like a new thing. At colleges like back in the like early 20th century, the freshmen all had to wear these little like beanie caps but like jughead caps like with the propeller um yeah what do you which uh no propeller um but kind of similar like it would just be like cover the top of their head. Are you thinking of a yarmulke? It's similar to a...

Are you thinking of a synagogue, Jason? I'm familiar with what a yarmulke is. It is slightly bigger, but similar size-wise. Got it. Imagine a baseball cap, and it was shrunk down to a third of its size. And I think it was just a way to like identify who you could rag on yeah like the freshmen were all ed devics customers i really want to fact check this but i now it's not the time i mean i'm sure it was individual at each college i just remember

okay you're walking it back now display case of historical. I think it dates back to the time when it's like sit on top of a flagpole. Cram got as many people into a phone booth. Wasn't that the 60s? Huh? Wasn't that the 60s when you were crammed? I think some of that tradition carried on to the 60s. Wait, what? The phone booth thing?

Yeah, wasn't that more of like a 60s thing? I don't know. I don't know when the phone booth thing was. I don't even know what the phone booth thing yeah wasn't that more of like a 60s thing i don't know i don't know when the phone booth thing was i don't even know what the phone booth thing the people would try this before television and the internet people would try to cram in a phone booth okay as many people as i am gonna fact check when telephone phone booth stuff started at colleges that's a good idea because i need to know that um but yeah so danish teens shirtless embroidered captain's hat yeah in the park but they're hammered hammered are they polite or are they rowdy they were not

in not they neither nor they were just like there they we didn't interact with them i did keep thinking like are we gonna get bullied by these teens yeah but they seemed to be um weirdly unconcerned with us they weren't like like clocking us they weren't clocking me with my head in my lap from motion sickness uh waiting for my husband to get off a roller coaster so um we just all minded our own business oh Oh, okay. But that was one very kind of unique and interesting thing about when we were specifically at Bakken. And another thing was one of the roller coasters my husband went on after I could no longer go on a roller coaster. There's like a tunnel you go into and the roller coaster was not themed however when you got to this tunnel there was a naked above it a naked woman and it was as though you were going into her vagina okay hmm and he said when they

got there the teens behind him yelled pussy so he gets off the roller coaster he was like i know you feel really sick and you want to leave i need to go on again to get a video. It is very interesting to see. Yeah. Because it seems like the rest of the roller coaster, there's nothing else. It wasn't themed. It's just that. Yeah.

It was just a roller coaster. Yeah. So happy to share that video with you if it's of interest. We could put that on social media. That's interesting. So happy to share that video with you if it's of interest. We could put that on social media, yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Like, is it, I actually do, I missed this. Is it like a, just sort of a cartoon version of this? Or is it just sort of to like, is it like an abstraction of what it is?

Of a vagina? Of going into the vagina, yeah. Well. Is it detailed, I guess is really what I'm asking. The tunnel is not adorned. it's a tunnel right but just you understand it to be a woman's vagina because of the like cut out like the wooden art cut out above it okay which is like a painting of a naked woman okay with her legs open it's pretty graphic that's what we're getting at it's's cartoon. It's a caricature.

It's a photorealistic depiction. It's like a health science, like health book or something. Yeah, I wouldn't say that, but it's whatever you want to picture. Okay. When you picture riding a roller coaster into a vagina, which I assume when you both close your eyes to go to sleep at night, that's kind of- Well, that's how I fall asleep. Yeah, yeah.

You visualize that. It's like counting sheep for you. You sent me a photo of Bakken. And I'm trying to, oh, okay, it downloaded. It's kind of like, it's a horse with a lot of teeth. Yeah. I don't know how else to describe it painting of that yeah okay it feels like it should be said did you say a horse with a lot of teeth

that's right well you'll see why a toothy horse is what you're talking about he was he's smiling big okay yeah he's smiling big um uh i'm just gonna send it to you uh do you know what the words next to it translate to? I do not. Did you look it up? I did not. Oh. I forgot there were words.

I was just picturing the horse. Yeah. That was a nightmare one night. I was trying to ride my favorite roller coaster, but then I kept thinking about the tooth horse. It's the last thing you want to see in a vagina. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, in this, you know, I actually missed it.

How old is this ride? Do you know offhand? Or is this, like, this has been here for a while. The woman, we're still talking about the woman. We're still talking about the woman. I don't know. Well, the woman is of age. Okay.

None of the rides, I thought we would go and it would be like that exhibit about with the vintage amusement park stuff. Right. That was just in LA or maybe still is. Oh, the art exhibit. Yeah. That Drake. Yeah.

Yeah. Luna Luna. Luna Luna. I thought it would be like quaint, like old, you know, cogs and things, but it was new. The rides felt very new new right yeah yeah because some of the ones at least in uh uh tivoli gardens are like 100 years there's a 100 year old ride there yes um but yeah so i mean this is another thing i'll check i'm checking on beanies i'm checking on the uh phone booth stuffing and i'll check on the age of this ride i say i'm a good tooth horse

oh thank you thank you. I have not seen it yet. I turned my text off on my computer, but I'll take a look at this right now, and I will react live. Oh, wow. That is a toothy horse. Whoa. It's just a lot of teeth. It's like a human mouth's worth of teeth.

It's like you got veneers or something. It's a horse with veneers. It's a he got veneers or something. It's a horse with veneers. I think that's what the word- It's a fine Danish tradition. Yeah, the words next to it say veneer horse if you translate them. That's partly why people have such a happy experience living in Denmark is because the horses smile at them so broadly. Even the horses have beautiful smiles in Denmark.

Yeah, and that cheers everybody up. Yeah, exactly. It makes you feel good. Yeah, throw a little captain's hat on that horse shit that would be amazing yeah this is scary though this is yeah the art a lot of it was like a little bit especially of the clown was like just a little bit freaky how often did you see that clown walking around never not once i took a picture of his little house where it's like you would do a meet and greet and it was shuttered i mean there's a little stage where he does little commedia dell'arte yeah that was not in session when we were there sadly i have some sad news

about the horse photo oh no no i mean I mean, I guess it's boring news. The translation of the words is entrance to the stables. Oh. Why is that sad? Well, because I thought it'd be weirder. Like veneer horse with veneers. Yeah, veneer horse here. Yeah.

Come smile with the horse or something? Like smile with him? I didn't even know there were stables. That's fun. There aren't any more i don't think i can't tell if it was literal or if it was just like a little doodle well it is kind of a park you know bachan is a park as well that you could just walk around and it's pretty much like tovilli gardens yeah so probably at a point. I mean, there were stables everywhere, I assume. Bakken, it seems like the gist of reading about it, watching videos. A lot of people go there to hang out.

There's a lot of restaurants. There's a lot of green space. Yeah. And for the amusement park element, they build up because they can't really expand out. Right, yeah. That sounds accurate. There's a lot of different levels. Yeah. I think there is some

nature restrictions like it's protected area so they can't really just expand. Yeah, nor should they. It's fine. It's enough. Yeah, it's enough yeah it's enough people like it how was the food did you eat there at all um we had some gigantic beers um there was a the the candy selection was incredible yeah um i my favorite candy is like a filled rope and you know like a licorice rope but it has like sugar kind of inside it okay yeah a little bit not like a nerd's rope no okay that's

a that's a covered rope okay yeah it's more like a jelly filled donut but it's a rope yeah yeah um and they had a lot of options of that um in general i thought that the merch and food situation at both parks was not good okay oh well tivoli has like all these fancy restaurants that you could go to okay but it wasn't like disneyland where it's like you could casually go get like a burger or yeah, or a big turkey leg. Maybe they did have that and I just missed it. But yeah, so we didn't eat much at and also I was dying. Oh, I did have some really good fries to try to curb my motion sickness. Did it work?

No, no, It was just time. Okay, okay. Just needed time, maybe some water. Fries does seem safer than a schnitzel with gravy. Yeah, exactly. Settle it down with some macro snacks.

There's a picture on the website of what looks like a teen with partial clown face paint. Did you see any of that going on? No. Like a teen what looks like a teen with partial clown face paint did you see any of that going on no like a face painter or anything no no also like all of the rides that we have videos of there was like no one there that was the other crazy thing yeah never await often they would operate the ride with like one or two people on it right um so i don't know why why in school it just got now it's the high season there when we were there and june but it just wasn't it wasn't really maybe that's the version

of like crowded that it gets or something but we didn't there weren't like the extra things like pierrot wasn't there doing his performances and his meet and greets and we didn't see anyone doing like face painting and stuff what you but so you didn't consider like all right I'm motion sickness I can't do more rides I may as well get a full Puro face. No I didn't think about that but if I hadn't I think the motion sickness was taking up a lot of my brain space so if I had it to do over again I would have gotten my face painted like Puro for sure. Did your husband Dave consider getting a full Puro face? He was busy getting,

he was really focused on that vagina rollercoaster. So we both kind of had our own things going on. Right. Yeah. Maybe Puro wasn't there and the people didn't want to come because he wasn't around. That's true.

Maybe they had heard he wouldn't be there that day. This elderly clown isn't here. The upsetting clown, they heard he wasn't there. So the Americans are like, oh, thank God he's not there. Yeah. But the Dutch. Like this picture of him. The Danish.

He's an old man clown. He looks like he's hanging out by a garbage or like a ball wash at a, like a putting green or something. Like, I can't tell. It's like a little, like a little basket with a little hole on the top. I don't know what it's for.

Is he pulling something out of it? Yeah. Maybe he's doing like some like scarf trick or something. But he's, yeah, he's, he looks a little feeble, but he's giving a thumbs up and he appears to be married.

So. Okay. He's got a ring on the ring. I'm but he's giving a thumbs up, and he appears to be married. So he's got a ring on the ring finger. I'm guessing. He doesn't necessarily have to be married. Do you think potentially he's married to the stage? Do you think he has a formal ceremony? Is there a Mrs. Pirro? Yes, it's the stage.

Yeah, it's the boards. He's devoted his life to performing. And yeah, he had an official ceremony. I wonder if clowning in the style that has become what L.A. people think of clowning will make its way over and take over. And suddenly instead of Pierrot, it's like Natalie Palamides. Taking a dump. Doing a Fringe Festival-esque performance by taking a dump, as she famously does on stage. Is that what she does?

I haven't seen one of these shows. She does eat raw eggs sometimes, and she hatches eggs and lays eggs. That was just that one show about eggs. That was just the one show. Yeah. So sometimes she wrestles audience members in the Nate show. Yeah, she was like partially naked wrestling. Anyway, I'd like to see maybe her.

I would like to see Puro partially naked playing eggs on stage at this park. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't know. Maybe Clowning's passed him by at this point. Maybe. If he changes. Maybe. But maybe, yeah, I don't know.

I would think he would be there if he's the mascot so i hope nothing's wrong with him yeah it must have just been an off day yeah for him maybe he accidentally looked to the side on the on the flippy ride oh yeah to take some time he had to try to eat some fries yeah and calm down yeah exactly huh so this overall like uh uh did your husband like all of the riser was he just sort of he wanted to get it done no no we loved we both had a blast on all the rights we did and he went on a couple more than once but and that's how he found out that you can there is a limit right even with the unlimited pass you're at two or three you can't get to 40 exactly and

there was a it they scan like a barcode so it is like keeping track oh interesting yeah because you would think it would be old school but i guess these are very updated and and that was although it was really fun that was like the most disappointing i thought it would be like quaint and old school and it was not that yeah yeah right so yeah it's almost like too modern you would want it to be like more rickety well that is the trade-off is like the rides felt safe that's true for the most part but yeah i kind of wanted them to be really rusty, rickety, built a hundred years ago. I feel like if it's like a flat ride that doesn't spin you, I would want it to be as old as possible. Yeah.

If you're not going to lose your life if it malfunctions. Yeah. So yeah, I get that. That makes sense to me. But yeah, because looking even like there's a big duck ride that looks like a family thing where you spin it, like the Teacups Disneyland. Yeah. But the duck looks makes sense to me. But yeah, because like looking even like there's like a big duck ride that looks like a family thing where you spin it like the teacups Disneyland. Yeah. But the duck looks too new for me.

Yeah. It's all very snazzy and like, yeah. Even like the carnival, you know, throw a thing or whatever. Some of those are like older, but yeah. Yeah. You would want, yeah, you would want like the duck to be falling apart more. I think. Yeah. You would want his like beak to be falling apart more, I think. You would want his beak to be falling a little bit.

Yeah. There was an amusement park growing up in Denver that's still there, I assume called Lakeside. And it was the alternative to the nice amusement park. It was the cheap, bad amusement park, and everything was falling apart. And that was kind of its charm. Right. Yeah. Yeah. amusement park and everything was falling apart and that was kind of its charm right yeah yeah i mean that there is a fine line though between a bad park because sometimes it's good that it's

falling apart yeah and then sometimes it's like depressing yes yeah you you gotta hit it in its sweet spot while it's on its way to becoming a depressing place yes right and like six flags is like their mission statement was to always make it a little depressing. Yeah. But it doesn't, I don't think it ever had a, like, not, I shouldn't say this. Their mission statement. It's always, depending on, some of the parks were like acquired later. So some of the parks actually started with some quaintness. Yes.

And then they got sad. But then some of them I think were just built whole cloth as Six Flags. And I feel like those maybe lack the old school charm. Well, that is the good park in denver was called elitch gardens oh yes of course uh yeah i just made that connection and i've got some bad news because scott went there just went to elitch gardens just went to elitch gardens you know it became then a six flags yes it was a six flags briefly and then it unbecame a six flags yeah wait what happened oh it's kind of it just seems to be it sounds depressing it seems like oh no that was the good

one i know i i was afraid that's what you were gonna say it just seems like there was a lot of stuff down when he was there yeah and there was a lot of uh like pre-teen group like tour groups like middle school high school yes groups and try i think trying to navigate them all half the park is down that's fair they have a four-year-old with them and it just kind of was like a little overwhelming i see well they have a meow wolf dark ride meow wolf is now yeah at yulich garden yeah they meow wolf was given a full reign to redo a dark ride great so well that looks kind of cool that's cool yeah um well yeah i maybe lakeside's the place to go now the formerly bad one oh it could be who knows who knows can i real quick did you play this game um that appears to be shooting water at somebody

holding their nose in a bathtub we we played a shooting water game i can't remember if it was that one okay yeah because i'm trying to figure out what the like narrative of the game is because it's like a person with like different colored hair there's all the people have different colored hair like one's orange or red one's green one's purple are those not bath caps hold oh maybe they i don't know they look almost like a part but maybe they are bath caps that's not in focus on this photo so yeah perhaps not but then they're holding their nose and you're shooting. I'm trying to figure out, are you trying to wash them fast?

Maybe you're trying to fill up the bath. Maybe, but they've covered their, their lower half is covered in bubbles. Yeah. So they've already done some of it. But I wonder if you're trying to, I don't know if there's like holes in their feet. I don't know if you're trying to wash their feet and wash their chest and then wash their hand. Well, they represent the start of the school year. So you graduate and you wear the little caps and you get drunk and then-

You're saying you're washing a bunch of teens before they start the school year? Well, they're shirtless like the teens I saw. Right. Okay, so this is like wash a teen for their first day of school. Wash a teen for their first day of school. Yeah, and then you're given a pierrot.

You're given a stuffed pierrot, and you have to pass it on. Oh, my God. And it's cursed. It's alive. Yeah, it's a prize. It's also cursed. It's cursed. Okay.

Cursed clown. Lots of fine Danish traditions. Yeah. Well, let's talk Tivoli Gardens. Yes. This is a historic park. Yes. Very.

It was a wonderful time because I'm like, what are the odds someone just got back from Tivoli, the park that Walt Disney visited multiple times and heavily influenced Disneyland. um disneyland heavily influenced all he apparently took a trip there with art link ladder the uh television broadcaster and art would just catch him like screw up scribbling down notes yeah yeah he would ask art like what do you think about this what do you think about this idea as he you think about this idea? As he was, like, stealing ideas from Tivoli. Yeah.

He was, like, the bad guy from Bring It On. Yeah, very similar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was sinister, you know, like a Perot type. He saw Perot and he said, I could learn a lot from that scary clown. Yeah. And it is like it totally lives up to that. Like it's like clear.

There's just a lot of clear influence. Although I guess I don't know what rides were built when. So I don't know like what he saw like i think it seemed like the things that sat with him well or like very family friendly yeah good customer service the ambience and the landscaping are very beautiful because it is like a gardens it is a public space you have to pay a nominal like twenty dollars to get in. Something like that. Yeah.

I thought you could walk around and not ride any rides. I thought it was Bakken rules. And so I did get in a bit of a tiff with the ticket taker. Oh, wow. I think it's like $20 to get in and then like $20 or $30 for like unlimited rides. Yeah. Which was not an issue for me because i uh continued to have motion sickness oh no oh no so it was a walk around situation for me but there's a lot of stuff there's like the nim hotel at nimb which on the outside looks kind of like the taj mahal

and to me was like clearly a potential inspiration for the It's a Small World building from the outside. But then there's this amazing dark ride called the Flying Suitcase. Trunk or suitcase is how it translates.

And the inside of that seems to have maybe been the inspiration for It's a Small World slash the Haunted Mansion, etc. It is like a weird mashup of the two styles. Yes. You would think that was like a big ripoff or something. Yeah, go ahead.

Yeah, I have the sign outside the flying trunk. It says a fairy tale journey. And it says, here you will meet numbskull Jack, Thumbelina, the top and the ball, the soldier and the dog with the eyes as big as teacups. The ice kingdom to the north with the snow queen and the robber girl. That's all one. Yeah. The little mermaid and her sisters in the kingdom of the sea king we all know that the emperor of china with the artificial nightingale again i don't know about the translation on this but this is in english like this wasn't

translated the princess and the pea and many more in hans christian anderson's wonderful fairy tale world it is like um it's a lot of hans christian anderson uh stories in one like condensed into one ride yes and hans christian anderson himself was apparently so taken by tivoli gardens it inspired that story the nightingale um so uh tivoli was opened it's much more modern it was opened in 1843 uh much more modern much more modern it's brand new practically it's 180 something years old um but yeah that a lot of just like very like this drooping tree is covered in lights at night it's very beautiful yeah although it seems like it doesn't get dark till two in the morning yeah we didn't get to experience darkness there but but yeah it's it's stunning. It's beautiful. It's like even the carousels are like the most beautiful, elaborate, ornate things. Yeah, everything is just like really, really pretty.

There's like a lake that was like part of like the moat originally. Yeah. The city. Yeah, it's just really nice. and there's swan boats and stuff yeah did you do there is a add-on haunted house that you can walk through did you do via vendetta we did not wait is that like a fun house or a haunted it's like a haunt that must be during halloween or is it year-round hell it seemed like it might be here i think it's i don't addition to whatever you have to pay another fee for that i don't think that was

running when we were there i think it might be seasonal because they have like halloween and christmas stuff too that i think would be very fun but we didn't see that it's such a from what just video it's such it's a vibes park to me it just feels like that's the draw is like just how scenic it is and being there especially if you can be there during the nighttime but yeah it's not a rides park right if that's kind of what that's what you're saying it is a vibes park it's like there's also the best thing we saw by far was there's this theater and it's like a giant outdoor it's a proscenium stage and then an outdoor seating area with like there's like some chairs i guess you could reserve but then there's just like a hill where people are just watching and the theater is like in the style of almost

like a chinese palace like the proscenium yeah so beautiful and then the curtain is like a big peacock. Feathers. Yeah. And it opens like a peacock's feathers would go down. Yeah. It's like. I guess that's. I know what you mean.

I don't know how else to say it. It takes like a number of people to operate it. I think they may have it automated now. Oh, do they um to me it didn't look man operated person operated complicated i guess mechanical or something but yeah it's really beautiful and ornate and then there's a show that we saw called clumsy hans that's great that's a ballet like a pantom-y, almost like commedia dell'arte ballet about a guy named Clumsy Hans. And there was just a huge crowd just watching like a gentle ballet.

Wow. Yeah. It looks like they put up shows like this all the time. Yeah. Like for the last 180 years. But is Clumsy Hans, is that Hans Christian Andersen? is he clumsy or is it just that's a guy's name? I think that's just a guy's name. It's like Clumsy John.

And are his eyes as big as teacups or are they normal? We were kind of far away, but it's more his clumsiness that's his defining feature more so than big eyes. Fair enough. Fair enough. But his dad wants his brothers to marry a princess, and he's going to take them on horses, and then Clumsy Hans wants to go too, and dad's like, I don't want you to meet the princess. And then Clumsy Hans has to ride a goat. Does he do it well?

Because he's clumsy. Well, here's the twist. Clumsy Hans is only clumsy in that, I mean, the person that played Clumsy Hans was like a great ballet dancer. Right. But he kind of like tumbles in a graceful way. Okay. But it's still clear ballet, like graceful ballet. He's not taking like hard Chevy Chase style falls.

Yeah, I was going to say Chris Farley. He's not like falling through a coffee table or whatever. He falls, but he rolls out of it probably in a beautiful way. Yeah, and the fall is, like, it's like West Side Story dancing, fight dancing. You know, where you're, like, no one's really, they're just, like, dancing. Right. So, Clumsy Hans is maybe, like, a nickname he created to like pretend he's like faux humble or something because he sounds like he's very graceful hans very graceful actually

other people are the ones calling him clumsy hans but i guess he i didn't delve too deep into it maybe he is perpetuating that to be like right i'm just clumsy and oh my god did i just do a perfect pirouette okay that, that makes sense. Yeah. Clumsy Hans. Is the goat cantagorous? They're fickle creatures. The goat is a two-dimensional painted goat head on a stick. Okay.

So does he ride it just like a little hobby horse? That's right. All right. You can go either way with one of those. You mean it could be friendly or not? Well, I'm saying you could really eat shit or you could just go about your business. That's right. Yeah. But he has full control over the goat character because of just the simpleness of that apparatus.

Yeah. Yeah. Is Clumsy Hans, is he good looking? Is he also just like, I picture him hot. Yeah, Clumsy Hans has kind of, I picture him hot. Yeah. Clumsy Hans has like a kind of a boyish good looks. Yeah. Not like a manly, like his brothers were more like manly, hot.

Okay. Like brooding, whatever, princes. And then he's kind of like a boyish. He might be hot for American standards, but by Danish standards, he's kind of like a boyish he might be hot for american standards but by danish standards he's not quite they're looking for like a more tough guy or something i don't know you don't think that's right trying to figure out how fuckable hans is in addition to being clumsy i would say if you saw hans in vegas with an older woman okay go ahead come on you would think this is gonna be a good story later okay got it yeah i know now i know

what he looks like got it got it uh well that's yeah i we've we oftentimes lament the fact that disneyland and disney seems to be going away from a lot of live entertainment oh is it well just? Well, just like they close shows and there's an empty, the Hyperion Theater in California Ventures has been empty for a while and that used to have a big elaborate Aladdin show and a Frozen show. Oh, yeah. I think it's going to get demolished for Avatar in the next five years. And there's other examples of live entertainment being cut, which is very important. Well, yeah.

To me in these parks. I'm curious what you think. I was with someone at Disneyland recently that has a conspiracy theory about the fireworks. Oh, can we hear it? So, no. Next question. Got it.

Oh, okay. So when I was there, they canceled the fireworks because of quote unquote wind. Right, right. Now, we could not detect any wind. We're looking at the trees. We're not seeing the trees blowing enough that fireworks couldn't happen.

Right. And he is like, goes there quite a bit, this person I was with. And he's like, the fireworks are always canceled these days. And then we looked up how much it costs to do a firework show. And he's like, they're just trying to save money by pretending it's the wind.

I would believe that. I believe it. Yeah. Yeah. Usually when I've seen them cancel it, it's because it feels like it's windy, but yeah, I would believe that. Yeah.

There can be a lot of costs, like downing live shows or running it a lot less sporadically, canceling fireworks, closing restaurants before the park closes. There's lots of ways to nickel and dime. It's the Disneyland version

of saying the ice cream machine is broken at a McDonald's. Exactly. It's exactly that. It's exactly that. And I look, I know there's articles about those being hard to fix.

You've sent them to me, listeners, and I don't care. I still don't believe it. That was like a new thing, I feel like, that just came out. Yes. Like some article about the ice cream machines.

Yes. Some sort of impossible contract and impossible, like one company makes machines and only they can serve it. Jason believes this lie, and I think it's wrong. This feels like Big Donald's planting kind of a news story with their power. I agree. Yeah. So I don't believe it either. But yeah, the big attraction

that's like clearly a Disneyland thing is the big roller coaster that looks, it's like a mountain. It looks like the Matterhorn and it like towers above everything else and it's just, you can see it from a lot of parts of Copenhagen

because, or downtown, it's like this, Tivoli's in the middle of copenhagen and you can just see like basically the matterhorn um it's very cool but it's like that's clearly where disney got that idea wait i'm confused is that the one with the person that operates it on the car yeah okay because a hand cart uh handbrake there's a brake this is very rare there's only a few left in the world but the roller coasters left in the world, but the roller coasters,

we're right in the middle of the roller coasters. A guy operates a handbrake. And I saw videos where he's like standing up and waving. Yes, that's what I saw, yes. Yeah. Which seems like, I don't know if I like it better that there's a human being doing it.

I don't think I do. I don't like it at all. Yeah, I don't think, right? No. Because what if he, right? No. Because like, what if he forgets? Okay. I just mean like,

a computer is just going to do it unless something, like a virus happens. Yes. Yeah. It's terrifying. Human error. Yeah.

You would think, yeah, because there's literally like an old train, like a big crank, like an old train. There's not like a coal section where he's putting coal

into an engine, but. It's crazy. I wonder if there's videos where he has like one ear pod in like he's listening to a podcast he's listening to a murder podcast yes right yeah and then he gets so excited he forgets to break the thing yeah because the climax of the podcast happens and he gets yeah he just gets distracted i wonder what the worst thing that would happen if he doesn't do the break right would be i mean it would go sailing off the track i'm assuming the whole thing it's only one thing that could happen yeah right it would have to go yeah or i mean maybe the worst thing is just you go around again maybe actually now they think about it he has to break it though at certain points in the roller It's not just to end it at the end.

Yeah, it's throughout. Throughout. Yeah. I mean, imagine every roller coaster at Disneyland, and imagine there's the guy on it who has to, every time there's a turn or something where they have to slow down, he has to hit a button or pull a lever. That should be the highest pay.

They should make baseball player salaries to do that. Yes, I agree. You have many people's lives in your hands. Yes. Yeah. Every roller coaster has a conductor. Yeah. Every roller coaster has a person.

Imagine if that was on the vagina roller coaster and the guy had to focus. And he couldn't. He couldn't. He'd get distracted. Dead man's curve. That's what I call my vagina. Yeah, it yeah so scary I think I would want

one on Big Thunder at Disneyland not a vagina a conductor really? like that would be fun because he could dress up like an old prospector

he'd have a big hat and a big beard and then like he could say stuff while the ride was going on you get like a live performer aspect

I'm serious like a live performer aspect. I'm serious. Yeah. A live performer aspect to Big Thunder. But you want someone going like, hold on tight, folks. Yeah. I want him to give me the business while the roller coaster is happening. Yeah. Yeah.

Like roast me gently. That would be fun. Yeah. A little Ed DeBevick style roasting. Right. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

Well, yeah, the live performances are like the most special thing for sure we also went to an open-air museum in um stockholm that had like the greatest musical i've ever seen in my life it was set in the 50s i mean in like a in like in like a campy way yeah and it was just about a guy who whose job gave him a washing machine as like a reward for doing a good job at work and his family being confused in the 50s about what the washing machine is and like his wife worrying that if she used the washing machine she would have too much time on her hands to think about other things it's like very existential wow there's a whole song about the man can't not being able to find his hat he's a hat man

and he needs to find his hat this sounds good it was honestly so good we were like actually laughing the performers were great and it was just in the middle of this like random like reenactmenty kind of open air museum in stockholm so that kind of stuff is very special yeah yeah yeah that's like like looking through that was the stuff even just the tivoli like made excited to be more than just the old ride that seems like it could fly off a track um and will and my yeah well although that one's been around for like 100 years so yeah i guess they're all experts at it i don't know i don't know if this happened i don't know what day of the week you were there.

I'm excited by something at Tivoli called Friday Rock. We were not there for Friday Rock. What's Friday Rock? Friday Rock seems to be some sort of a concert series where you will get rock and roll. One of my favorite music genres. But what I was most excited is they have tribute bands like billy joel the piano man from new york a tribute to billy joel and it looks like it also has some sort of a narrative about

his career like they're doing a little story about like billy joel like starting out a jukebox musical that's what it seems i could not find a video of it so i don't know that's cool and it seems like maybe it only happens at tivoli they have the names of some of the performers and i looked those up and that didn't seem to be we did see a list of names of performers yeah but we weren't there for any of the performances yeah the piano man from new york tells the musical story of billy joel's life and career about ups and downs and how a boy from the Bronx who would have preferred to be a professional boxer instead went on to become the world's most popular piano man with album sales of over 150 million copies and with hits such

as Uptown Girl, Just The Way You Are, Tell Her About It, Honesty, New York State of Mind, and of course, the signature song, Piano Man. Wow. So you get like a full bio of Billy Joel if you go to Friday Rock. They have a Tina Turner show as well. I don't know if I would trust them. You don't think in Denmark that's a safe trip? I'm just wondering how they would cast that.

You know, it's a good question. I did not see a video and maybe there's a reason why. Yeah, they're like phones down. That's like I see, I think Hamilton is starting to be done by high schools, including some high schools in the Midwest. And I think I think I see an issue. Listen, I was in the whiz in high school. So this has come up. He's saying a lot of ways in high school.

He's on down the road in like middle school chorus. Yeah. And like spiritual, like weed in the water. Yes. Yeah. And yeah, looking back, I'm like, well, this spirit was correct, you know, like exposing us to new things. Yeah.

But it is very funny to look back on. I know. Yeah. Hamilton taking on that role now is very special. They list like this Friday Rocks. They like in their history, they have like sort of a history on the website of different moments. And they added Friday Rock. Like this was a big deal.

1997. I got to go back. And then you have to go back. And they list the first performers, the first few performers, including Danish rappers, Den Gale Pose, I guess. And I did look up what Den Gale Pose's big hit was. And this is the vibe of them. They are all in straight jackets. Yeah.

Which, honestly, I don't know that the music really sounds like, but it sounds like this. Wait for the Danish rapping. Rock and roll. Yeah, we're rocking now. So that's one of the first groups that played Friday Rock. Wow, imagine you get to watch Clumsy Hans the Ballet and then go over to the bandstand and listen to that. Right. I didn't understand a lick of that.

But you understood the vibe of it. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. You felt it. I have a couple more Walt Disney things. Okay, great. One, there's this picture. So if you go on a Disney cruise that has a port stops in Copenhagen. Oh. As a day on land.

Yeah. I'm losing the word. I can't think of the words right now. I don't know what the cruise ship calls it. A day on the land? It's called a day on the land. It's a port. It's like, oh, we're stopping here

and we're stopping here. And then you have to pay to get off the ship. Off the Disney cruise? I think so. I think there's an up charge if you want to go and do their like tivoli gardens day like a shore day there is uh the tivoli gardens packet it's like you get oh you get driven to tivoli gardens you get the ride thing i think you get a tour and like lunch and a beer yeah um so but on that page where they were talking about the tivoli option uh there's this

picture walt disney wearing a bearskin hat and tivoli gardens while a drummer boy stands by and it's about what you'd think it would be it's a big hat oh yeah he's smiling and it's huge it's like a um buckingham Palace guard hat. Yeah, and then the drummer boy, is he seated at a full drum kit? No, he's got the drum they wear. Oh, to be in a parade, a marching band or whatever.

Okay. And I believe these two are members of the Tivoli Boys Guard. Yes. Which is like a long, they've had this forever, it's just a bunch of boys that are like a marching band yeah and it seems like some sort of a grand tradition yeah and i oh did you see the tivoli boys guard we did not see the tivoli boys guard however the changing of the guard in copenhagen i'm i'm like to, you don't want to mistake the Stockholm and the Copenhagen change.

People would come for me so fast. But so the one in Copenhagen is pretty young people and they march every day like a long ways through the city. Okay. It's like the biggest waste of time. They seem kind of proud to be doing it, but's like why are you all doing like it's so antiquated but it is just this grand tradition so they love to march in formation from place to place and have it be like a daily tradition so they're like passing an apple store and h&m yes. It's through like the shopping district of Copenhagen. Well, then you can be like,

hey, sorry, I was late getting back from lunch. The marching was going on. I got stuck by the changing of the guard. Yeah.

Interesting. I don't, I mean, Disneyland still has marching band. Yeah. There is still like a holdover like feeling

of like the people want to see people march and play their instruments. Feel sinister. Well, that's the way I put it yes you could say they enjoy the music they want to hear brass yes i want to hear a big brass version of i just can't wait to be king or something right um but yeah the tivoli but i don't know i should have looked up like what age you have to leave the tivoli boys guard because like it feels like you can't be an older man and be in the boys guard anymore. There's just a guy every day shaving his five o'clock show off.

Please let me stay. They force him out and he's shell-shocked PTSD. So he just goes and joins the French Foreign Legion. There's that one place in Paris you can just show up and knock on the door and join the French Foreign Legion. Yeah, there's like a gateway right from the boys' garden to that. It's a straight line.

Yeah. Another Disney connection. The founder of Tivoli Gardens, George Carstensen, said in 1844, Tivoli will never, so to speak, be finished. And then 100 plus years later, Walt Disney says, Disneyland will never be complete. It will continue to grow as long as there is imagination left in the world. Whoa.

He sort of stole it, yeah. Sort of stole it. He did steal it. I wonder if it's, it's definitely true of Disneyland. Yeah. Yeah.

They're always tweaking that thing. They're always doing something. Yeah. Yeah. They're always up to no good over there. They're always,

they're keeping all the fireworks to themselves. I do wonder if they're like, renovate, like, I don't know, Tivoli felt done or something.

Like, but it is in the middle of the city. So there's kind of only so I guess they could like redo things. Somewhat recently they added a little bit, but it's like, I think real estate is hard to come by. So yes, it's not. There's not an easy way to expand it. Yeah. You're going to run into like a monument pretty fast. Yes.

You can't do anything about it is i think it's called it's called demon damon yes yes which is like a b&m full-on like metal roller coaster that's the big roller coaster manufacturer oh okay um so that is there next to like the beautiful pagoda and the pond or lake or whatever. Yeah. It's part of a whole like, like Asian style. There's like Midway games, but it's like, like Asian, like, it's just like this beautifully themed lanterns and like dragons and stuff. Um, and then there's like an old West themed part like a vaguely old west part too

yeah can i say something about george carstensen and i don't want to get off on a whole thing here and maybe this is just because the glasses are similar but jason do you resemble george carstensen like i just i think there's no picture of you there's a picture of him with glass when you used to have small glasses i think that's what i'm responding to i don't think you look like him necessarily but there is like a high school photo of you that i've seen where i do think you resemble tivoli gardens founder george carstensen do you see what i'm saying at least i'm not saying this is an exact double situation unfortunately see what you're saying okay there's i think i think it's mostly glasses you never had your hair like this

oh dude did you not on purpose but i i think like 2011 2012 i let my hair i just let my hair and it kind of feathered it kind of curled at the ends. Right. So, oh boy. I think there's an old photo that just, there's a, and I think really what it is, it's not even necessarily features. It's more the vibe of the photo. I was going to say it's the vibe. It's the vibe of the photo and the glasses.

Yeah. Thank you so much. And I think we got to put the pictures next to each other. You have kind of the vibe of a Danish man who died at age 44 in 1857 thank you so much you're so welcome i did but he created he created magic he's the reason we have disneyland in the current condition you know what i'll take it and i looked i looked for bad stuff about him and i didn't find it because i usually when we do this you're like okay what did he do yeah but i don't there was i maybe i didn't dig deep enough, but it seemed like he served

in the military. He started this. He went to the king. Uh-huh. He got permission for this. All above board. All above board. Yeah.

And then 44, he died of pneumonia. Yeah. But yes, that's, that's, there's, we'll post this online and you can tell us. We need a picture. Yeah. Side by side. Yeah. That would be good.

We'll do a side by side. I was looking, some of this park was destroyed during World War II. Yeah. Well, it's old enough because I was like, wait, did either of the wars

affect and the Nazis, sure enough, did destroy it. Denmark said, we're not getting involved. They were probably taken over by the Nazis. Yes. They're too close to Germany. They're right butt up against Germany.

Right. But then they were attacked because they were Nazi territory. Yes. It doesn't seem like the damage was great. They were closed for like two weeks. It just burned down like one roller coaster or something. Or one couple buildings. Yeah, quickly rebuilt

and reopened yeah i was like i had that two weeks is nothing well one fun thing about copenhagen and this is not really about tivoli but is and it wasn't nazis in general but every building in copenhagen has burned down oh yeah multiple times and um I don't know if this is true, but we went on like a tour and our tour guide said that it was a combination of like, it's cold, you know, it's cold and dark.

You have to like have a fire going at all times. It's cold and dark. People are drinking a lot and the water is frozen. So they can't like put out the fires. Right. And so it wasn't a Nazi thing in that way, but at Tivoli, it was a Nazi thing. So one way or another, a building in Copenhagen is going to burn down and be rebuilt at least once. The talk of old rides was making me think about the early, early days of coney island and some of the original coney island stuff is uh you were

really taking your life in your hands like they were not 100 on the physics of like sending someone upside down like um and some of that stuff is not around anymore just because they would just constantly burn down in Coney Island. There was just so many cheapy slapdash haunted houses or shoot the shoots or roller coaster, whatever. Like it's a miracle the cyclone has survived. Well, the cyclone is so painful to ride. I hear that. I threw my back out so badly on the cyclone is so painful to ride i hear that i threw my back out so badly on the cyclone and when i was in new york before i went to scandinavia we went to coney island we were

like should we take our lives into our hands and go on the cyclone we were like no we have like a two-week trip ahead of us let's not throw our back out today but it's the most painful ride i've ever been on wow yeah geez yeah it seems like you love amusement parks but they really have not been treating you well i think i'm just a weak feeble okay easily rattled person maybe so you have to like toughen up before you go to your next one yeah i'm gonna need to go into some training some combat training okay before i go back uh can i real quick i've gone back to karstensen just real quick uh he he obtained a five-year charter to creatively by telling king christian that when the people are amusing

themselves they do not think about politics so that was his big sales pitch is that they're not going to hassle you king if they're on a little ride or if they're seeing like fun lights yeah i guess he's right yeah so i, I don't know that he was like helping the king do anything nefarious, but it kind of seems like he could have been. Yeah, throw him on the polyp. They'll never think about anything ever again. They won't notice you stealing from them.

Yeah. If they're eating a big churro or whatever version of that they had 100 years ago, 180 years ago. Let me ask, because obviously we talked about Perrault and being the mascot of Bakken. Did you meet Rasmus Klump and his friends? I thought you might ask about Rasmus Klump and his friends. I knew it would come to this.

I knew Rasmus would weasel his little way in here. And no. But we saw little sculptures of them and took a lot of pictures in like kind of the kids area. In the Rasmus Klump area. And it's adorable. Yeah. The other thing we saw over there and I don't know when it was built and I was like trying to figure it out. Is you know like Monstro the whale?

Yes. And there's like a similar looking thing at Tivoli Gardens. Oh. And you go inside the mouth? It's a little like souvenir store, so it's not a ride. Right. Right. Present day, and I don't know how it it started but it is a giant whale where it

looks the same as just a different color and you go in the mouth. So that could be a similar theft. It could be although I guess it's also the story. It's from the story. Pinocchio, yeah. I thought that was interesting. That was near Ross Misklump and friends.

The merchandise in the whale's mouth did not live up to your expectations no the merch was quite weak a lot of it was just general like danish like national merch okay i wouldn't need to ever buy lego like they're really into legos of course oh yeah um and like just like a tie with like with the Danish flag on it and stuff. So I wanted some kitschier. Yeah. I really wanted kitschy Bakken merch, but that simply did not exist.

What would your dream merch have been from either place? Oh, that's a good question. Maybe a t-shirt with a poorly translated... Maybe a t-shirt with the Hans Christian Andersen spiel on it from the flying trunk ride okay or like yeah I like a thing that's like specific to one ride yeah yes I agree maybe some socks with like the whale on it or I don't know there's a lot of options merchandising options that they're not tapping into yeah would you have bought a clumsy han action figure i would have bought a clumsy hans anything i would have i would have stocked up i would have bought a second suitcase to get home with just clumsy

hans stuff in it wow yeah it's like a series of plush like a plush hans plush hans yeah uh the hobby or a hobby goat he rides That's a no-brainer. Goat on a stick. That's an easy thing to make. Oh, that's your carry-on. Yeah, you ride that thing onto the plane. I would have gotten a second seat for my goat on a stick. Yeah.

If they had been selling that. Oh, on an international flight? Ah, it's fine. You can afford it. Yeah, who cares? Who cares? You should. And do you think anyone's actively pitching a a clumsy hans tv show in america

does who owns do they own the ip of clumsy clumsy hans it must be well the government maybe owns it is it a hans christian anderson that's a good question it might be public domain at this point clumsy hans it might be you this might be on you to pitch this. Well, yeah, you should pitch it, but I... I'm going to buy it real quick, so you have to pay me. Yeah, we should. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Hans Christian Andersen, Clumsy Hans. It is one of his stories. Oh, that's interesting.

And he named him Hans. Right. So I wonder if he felt he was clumsy. But then that makes a lot more sense because he actually thinks he's, like, cool. So he's right. Oh, this guy's so... Oh, my God. I'm so clumsy. I'm so quirky. It's probably thinks he's like cool so he's right oh this guy's so oh my god i'm so clumsy i'm so quirky it's probably darker in the fairy tale though right like he probably died of he killed a bunch of people or killed people yeah oh it's clumsy is a short story for children by danish author hans christian anderson it was first published

as part of an anthology stories 1855 public domain Ooh baby We're each going to have competing pitches in this room For clumsy Hans going forward So we can do Jason will do like a horror movie version Like those Winnie the Pooh Like those Winnie the Pooh ones And then there's the Steamboat Willie of course now coming out

Direct to DV He's a killer Wait is that real? Yeah it is real A killer steamboat Willie I'm not sure what just steamboat Willie he just is in the public domain I see so not the other

Mickey's oh yeah but why is he a kid that didn't why is he a murder sorry because people are just like running with the public domain like what if it was fucked up cool yeah yeah yeah so you can do that with clumsy hans okay that's good to know i have more rasmus clump stuff

would you have bought a plush of clump no because it's just a bear oh okay i didn't go through all 80 of the books uh but uh on the website it says learn more learn more about Pelican, Pingo Penguin, and all the other good friends. Discover who Rasmus Klump's ship is named after, what Skig, sea lion's, most prized possession is, and who loves playing cards but hates losing. Wait, so Rasmus Klump is a gambler? Well, we don't know. We don't know. There's mysteries to be solved. It could be Pingo. It could be Pele. It could be Skag.

Skank? It could be Skank. It could be Pingo. Wow. So there's a series of books? Yeah, I think they're a beloved series of children's books. They're comic strips, I see. Oh, okay. They don't use speech balloons. Oh, interesting.

It can be classified as a text comic. And it was 1951 when it started, so that is now public domain yet. Well, I have to say Rasmus Klump was to me reminiscent of the cartoons and mascots at Knott's. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

That bear family and then like like naughty foxes or whatever that are trying to steal their boys and berry pies yes yes uh it felt that a little bit to me okay without the naughty foxes the berry the berry tails bears the boys yeah there's boys marrying girls and berry girls and berry yes um and what's that we all know so maybe mr knots also paid a visit oh walter walter knots yeah walter not actually not yeah yeah it's a apostrophe is right possessive right yeah or yeah i that's a good, did Walter not ever visit Tivoli Gardens? Because Walt also stole from Knott's. Yeah. So I wonder if Walter also did some theft.

That's interesting. But I don't know. He passed on some proprietary information to both of them, perhaps. Yeah. That's a good question. Yeah. We'll have to look into that. There's a lot of things I got to look into now after this episode.

The wonders of Europe, of Scandinavia. I don't know anything about world history, but I do want to know more about Rasmus Klump and his friends. That is a priority. His nasty, weird friends. One of them likes to gamble. But you have to read all the books to find out who it is. Oh, boy. Or look at the books.

There's never words? No, there is words. It says, yeah, it says there are words. It seems like a lot of captions, but not word bubbles. Not word bubbles. The words are underneath. Right. Underneath the pictures.

They're underneath the cards. I've read. The books look, the books look, I don't, there's, I don't know what else to describe it. But the book, picture of the books, I go, oh, there's got to be something bad in here. Like, it's old school, like, cartoon stuff where I just start immediately going, oh, those feel like there's going to be something inappropriate or racist in one of these. Almost certainly. Yeah. 1951, yeah.

Yeah, some children smoking cigarettes at best. Maybe they're fine. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm thinking something bad about Rasmus Klum. But those, like, all the Tintin books. Yeah. There's some rough stuff. Yeah, I'm sure there Maybe I'm thinking something bad about Rasmus Klump. But those like all the tin tin books. Yeah. There's some rough stuff. I'm sure there's bad stuff.

Jason will read all these books and report back to us. Oh shit. You could read them so fast. It would only take you like three years to read all of these children's books. Oh man, Jason, I don't want to say again that you might resemble a character, but this picture of Rasmus Klump looking at all these pancakes,

that really gives me a Jason vibe right there. Yeah, that's kind of like you. And he's got like a knit cap on and no shirt, but overall. Oh, he's like a freshman. Rasmus Klump. His cap, yeah, he has a freshman cap on. He's wearing,

I have answered to the freshman cap question that I will say at the end. He's wearing a Mike Nesmith from the Monkees hat. That's, again, reference that's older than Gilligan's Island. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, he's fun looking. So it's a shame you didn't see him in person. Yeah.

I feel like also the need to say that I didn't just go to theme parks. I did so much highbrow stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah oh the museums i've sure looked at sure the inside was this trip uh uh anything specific you were going for or it was no no just just for fun just visiting europe just visiting a part of europe i hadn't been to oh okay yeah what is and if you're uncomfortable saying that's okay but what was the percentage Just visiting Europe. Just visiting a part of Europe I hadn't been to. Oh, okay. Yeah. What is, and if you're uncomfortable saying, that's okay, but what was the percentage of theme parks to actual museums and historical sites? I went to only two theme parks total.

Okay. And it was Bakken and Tivoli. One day each. One, not even a full day. Okay. Half a day. Okay. Tops each.

That's better. Because they're little, which is nice. Right. It's not like Disneyland or Disney World. That's better than when Lindsay and I went to Japan

and it was like half Disney, half Japan. Yeah. That would be a concern for me. Yeah. I would have to build in many extra days. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, we went to a, well, I guess going to Sanrio Pearl land in my mind counts that's like a museum as a museum right yes exactly and there was only half day so that was fine yeah but yeah we were it was a more shameful visit in a lot of ways than what you're describing okay good yeah i feel great about myself yeah because also disney it being i mean on one hand you have to DisneySea,

which is the best theme park in the world, supposedly. I mean, it's amazing. I haven't been to every park. But then on the other hand, you're going to like

an American Disney park in another country. Yeah. And even though they're very proud of it, I'm just saying, it's not like I went to see the sights

and the culture as much. Yeah. It's, yeah. You did fine, is what I'm saying. Okay. Well,

I hope you're going to do some introspection about your shameful trip. His choices his choices yeah that's what this podcast is for in general me saying out loud what i've done yeah and reckoning with it and um jason what have you done oh uh very little comparatively oh okay i'm not been to Japan. Did you have, and you did bring notes. Did we hit all of your notes, by the way? Oh, well, that's just because it's a lot of Danish words and stuff. I think we did pretty good pronunciation-wise. I wouldn't agree with that.

Oh, okay. Not on my end, at least. Maybe I'm not thinking quality. Maybe I'm just thinking quantity. Those Danish rappers, I know I did a bad job naming them. There's no way that was right. No. I've already forgotten what I said.

But I think you both leapt in with fearlessness. Oh. Like a clumsy Hans. I'm proud of you both. Thank you. Thank you. That's rare that a guest says that about us. Oh, you know what?

The main ride, I think, at Tivoli that we haven't talked't talked about like the big other than like the mountain coaster that you can see is the star flyer that's like the oh yeah you would picture which is the swings that swing around you know and you know what i'm talking about i kind of do it yeah like the big like swing ride yeah big swing ride where you know you have little seats and you're outside swing switch okay i i was picturing no i was picturing i was trying to remember which ride you got ill on and i oh that's it i thought it was similar but actual swings actual little one seat yeah yeah i like those it's humongous it's so tall right it looks scary to me.

Yeah, I didn't go on it again due to my lingering motion sickness, but it looked, even if I had been able to, it might have been too scary, too high. Because I get very stressed when my legs are dangling. Yeah. And especially if it feels like you're on a rickety piece of metal. Hanging from a chain? Yes. Oh, thank you.

Hanging from old chains. Dirty old chains. piece of metal hanging hanging from a chain yes oh thank you hanging from like old chains it's like dirty old chains dirty old Tivoli chains I mean Disneyland has one

the California Ventures got something like that and we did it a couple years ago and I hadn't done it for a while and I was like I'm scared was it scary yes

yeah I'm flying right out into the water or on the pavement this goes like twice as high as anyone's in America. It is high.

Isn't that insane? I want to ride this right now. Really? He loves being high. I like to be up high. I like to be very high. Yeah. He wants to jump off the, what, Stratosphere in Las Vegas?

Well, the more, okay, I do. He's declared that. I'm not lying. Can your app points get you there? Oh. No, it's actually a different owner. It's not lying. Can your app points get you there? Oh. No. It's actually a different owner. It's not an MGM.

Oh, okay. All of them, all the big, Caesars has their own app. MGM has their own app. This is complicated. The more I've learned about this stratosphere, the more it seems like real Excalibur vibes, like seen better days. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

So you're saying it's not a professional jumping off the hotel operation? So I'm a little more trepidatious about jumping off. Have you gone bungee jumping? No. But you want to. I would consider it. Well, that's the same as, isn't it the same thing? I know.

I'm just saying. It makes me nervous learning about the stratosphere. What element of the stratosphere, though, makes you nervous? Like just stuff being broken or closed so much. An Elledge Gardens vibe. So you're saying like a bar closes down in the stratosphere and that makes you doubt the quality of the safety running the bungee thing. I think just overall.

So I'm going to look into it more. Yeah. I also would need to get contacts to do it this is what he's been saying for years i've been saying that this is an excuse for why i'm blind as a bat without my glasses okay um so i would want to see everything right because you you have like a panoramic view of the city and the surrounding area. You know what it looks like. Come on. But I want to see what I'm falling towards, too.

I have a new theory. You don't actually want to do it. I think this contact thing is a sneaky little excuse to have a big, big talk. The contact is not a make or break thing. Oh, okay. Okay. The safety. Okay. The safety, I feel like they close the rides a lot or there's issues.

It just makes me a little more nervous than I was a few years ago. Would you have done the Tom Cruise end of Olympics stunt where he kind of like zip line down from the top of like whatever arena they were in or stadium? Yeah. That seemed like pretty casual for him. Yeah. I'm wondering if he wanted it to be more hardcore. In what way? He didn't stand on the Hollywood sign. He did, yeah. That was cool. Yeah, but that's not as crazy as ziplining from the top of a stadium. That looked kind of fun. It did look fun. Wait, would you go on or

did you go on it probably doesn't exist anymore the new jersey six flags the like what was it called the kundaka or whatever king kundaka is still i haven't gone on it because every time i went there it was closed often broken yeah it's kind of um uh logistically difficult ride, it would often shoot up and not make it all the way up. It's built in to slide back. Oh, good. That means it's working right. It's built to not work. It's built to

occasionally work. They should have somebody on the ride at all times, though. Yeah, a guy with a little lever. Yeah. Yeah. We talked talked I think with Dan Klein about that years ago yeah and

I cannot remember if he successfully got on but it wasn't from a lack of trying yeah but I haven't been there I think I was there when it was open and was just down it just wasn't running so but I would totally do that oh would there when it was open and was just down. It just wasn't running. But I would totally do that. Oh, would you?

But it was down. Very convenient. Very convenient. Very convenient. He lost his glasses before, too. So he couldn't see where he was going. He wanted to see all of that big specific part of New Jersey. The parking lot in New Jersey.

That beautiful part. Yeah. I have the answer for the beanies. Oh, yeah. I have the answer for the beanies. Oh, good. 100 years ago, according to OSU, I forget what, what am I in? The Lantern, which is some sort of college website. Who cares what it is?

That is probably the college newspaper. The cap tradition began in 1912, and its looks changed throughout its lifetime at OSU. But this is what they look like. Okay. And it's going to load. These are the caps. That is a beanie beanie yeah it's a little beanie like uh uh what character on fat albert wore one of these i forget uh one of them did maybe yes i forget which one i mean it's literally the thing that would have a propeller but it just doesn't exactly yeah um and then

foam book uh foam booth stuffing was most prominent in the 1950s, but it fizzled out by 1959. So that was the heyday. Okay. When people would stuff as many people into a phone booth as possible. And sorry, were the hats so you could know who to look down upon and make fun of? I believe so. I don't know. I think this was actually a good thing.

I don't think it was like a dunce camp. The hats were a good thing? Yes. Like they would say, like, we're proud of you for being here. We're proud of you for getting in. Well, you know what? This says freshman men were required to wear beanies. So perhaps if there was a rude upperclassman, they would make fun of the freshman for being.

Carry my books. Yeah. Yeah. So perhaps, yeah, you could spot like a newbie that way okay but i don't know those don't like this i mean i guess beanies were happening during phone booth stuffing so i wonder why it fell out of favor phone booth stuffing i just the wikipedia says it fizzled in 1959 i guess it just fizzled i mean maybe it was like we did an episode on Tunnel of Loves, which still occupies such a big place in TV and movies. But they fizzled out around the 50s because public displays of affection and car culture just kind of...

You didn't have to go to a carnival and sit in a dark boat ride to make out. No, you can be in line at a casino. Right. For all to see. They really should have. The policy was to wear masks at the time so i don't know why they were doing that they were in love that's why they were doing they were like uh angelina jolie and billy bob thornton remember how all over they were all over each other they were oh who could forget okay real uh the phone booth stuffing was referred to one of

the all-time great fads by the Bridgeport Post, but it had become regarded as passé by the end of 1959. It was akin to the meteoric rise and fall to the earlier fads of flagpole sitting, goldfish swallowing, and panty raids, and to the later fad of streaking. While still practiced contemporarily, it has not again achieved the social currency it had in the late 1950s. Wow. So this really makes it sound like it was a big deal to cram a bunch of people into a phone booth.

And then there was just one day a guy was like, who wants to get in the phone booth? And they were like, please. Yeah, and they laughed at him. Hans. Yeah. So 1959. please yeah and they laughed at him Hans yeah so 1959 I like this just another example of like the flattening of history and it's like yeah caps were in the 1910s and 20s and then flagpole sitting was in the 50s yeah but in my mind history yeah I fled and in my mind just like

ah the past yeah you must not have had your glasses on when you were describing those historical things goldfish swallowing 40s swallow goldfish before every episode

for good luck I feel like shit by the end of every episode too yeah cause the thing is still alive for the first 15 minutes or so

oh no you're swallowing that alive um so yeah anyway uh we'll put up that george karstensen photo with jason and yeah and the tooth horse and the tooth horse yeah maybe you pick someone you think looks like the tooth horse and put up a side by side oh good yeah who has a lot like a big toothy smile yeah that's a good question when you don't like probably yeah yeah well we'll think about our enemies and think about who looks like the horse uh do we have what else do we have anything else anything else say goodbye from your lovely trip

no okay well then i'll go ahead and say beth and pelelle, you survived Podcast The Ride. Let's exit through the gift shop. Do you have anything you'd like to plug? Oh, no. Okay. Well, I don't know what I would plug. You can plug somebody else's thing. I mean, anything. Sex Lives of College Girls is back.

It's back in November. November. Yes, watch season three of the Sex Lives of College Girls. I just watched Popstar Academy, which I thought was a pretty good reality show. That's just a thing you like? Yeah, that's right. But yeah, watch the Sex Lives of College Girls season three in November. Okay, great.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And as for us, you'll find us at podcast The Ride, or patreon.com slash podcasttheride, if you want to do more, if you want to get, there's that Elitch Gardens episode behind the paywall, if you want to go back and listen to that, and all the somewhat depressing antics that happened that day. I won't elaborate on what happened to Scott, but we're on all the socials at Podcast The Ride, and yeah, look for the comparison photos soon.

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