Podcast: The Ride - Tokyo Disney Resort with Lindsay Katai

Episode Date: November 16, 2018

Lindsay Katai (Teen Creeps, Infinity Train) joins us to recap her and Mike's trip to Japan. Enjoy their many hijinks in a country filled with theme parks! Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forev...er Dog Plus: https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/ FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FOREVER! DOG! welcome to podcast the ride the theme park podcast that will tell you definitively how many days you must spend at the Tokyo Disney Resort. The answer will be revealed when we get to that part of the story. My name is Mike Carlson. What a tease, you guys. Always joining me, Jason Sheridan. Yeah, I set that up so nicely. Did you think I was going to say?
Starting point is 00:01:01 No, I didn't think you were going to say. But I don't think it dawned on me. Did I get you? I don't think it dawned on me the significance that this is the episode where we finally. Yeah, this is where it will be revealed. Yeah. But didn't we got the answer from our almighty Tony already? That's true.
Starting point is 00:01:17 That is true. That's Scott Gerdner. Hi. Yes, Tony did. And obviously, Tony is a bigger, better authority than me. But for the purposes of this podcast and to pay off a narrative thread that we have been threading along for months now, since March, this is like a finale of a season in a way, like of TV, like where you blow off something like Walt versus Gus Fring,
Starting point is 00:01:41 like it ends here. It's that big of a an event and entertainment well and it's been a spoiler kiss oh that's a guy i know i haven't been introduced yet i just really needed to say that okay i'll give you your intro real quick so you can join in on this uh writer performer we this is our special guest she hosts the podcast teen creeps and public domain theater she works on the upcoming cartoon network show infinity train is also my love my girlfriend lindsey k tie i say that we i always refer to her as my love in common conversation it's a natural phrase that's some yeah i definitely familiar with that and was not at all taken aback no i thought that
Starting point is 00:02:16 was fun i thought it was a fun way to say it everyone's here mom dad uncle scott all of my west all of my west coast guardians all my west coast uh never not disturbing i love that definition of me that makes me very happy yeah yeah yeah i think it helps to find my role i feel like it should be uncle scotty uncle scotty if you're gonna go that way let's know that's the scotty part of Scott. Now I'm disturbed. So yeah, Jason thinks of us as his family, not his friends. Sure. But like his authority. No, your friends.
Starting point is 00:02:51 But like authority family. Not like, oh, you're my family or something. We're brothers. We're not none of you. We're all above you. No, he would say like, you're my family. You take care of me. I look to you for guidance.
Starting point is 00:03:06 That's the family you're talking about. I got the feigning disease from mom. I got the feigning disease from Lindsay. Well, this is what's exciting here among many other things. Finally, Lindsay, you're here on the podcast. And you're the person who's been on, the person who's around us the most doing all of these things who has not been on yet. And I'm so I'm so glad you're here.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Thank you. Yeah. I've been here. The fans are calling for it. Every episode. It's like footprints in the sand. When you only saw one pair, I was holding you. And footsteps on the way out the door because often we are here
Starting point is 00:03:45 in your living room yes taking up your space while you were trying to go about your day and do things so thanks for uh letting us invade yours not mike mike is a permanent invader of your space but i we're uh yeah uncle scott's a guest so uh thanks faye thanks for giving us the studio as jason said your family hey oh geez you make a lot of appearances if if like eagle eared listeners like they can hear in the background often like and then like a lock on like opens up taking the dog are you coming back or like who knows laundry um the most the most you've been felt on the show just in addition to stories is the city walk episode where we recorded drunk after howl at the moon yeah and you texted me you were being too loud and then also we all were like very hushed about the whole thing we got quiet
Starting point is 00:04:36 for about four minutes yeah then we forgot got right back it wasn't even i guess i guess it was because i was trying to sleep yeah yeah of of course. It was one in the morning. It was late. And I think if we want to like really attack somebody, I think I said Jason's being too loud. No, I don't believe that. I was trying to protect our son. I was trying to say we were all too loud, but now he knows.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I'm a mean mother. I'm one of those strict like holding a martinis. Yeah. Like, oh, are we doing that today? That general tone. The only way to learn. Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:05:10 So, yeah. So, this is the, this is very, well, let's, like, real quick, we'll talk. There's going to be other episodes where we get into more maybe history of our theme park journeys together. Let's get real quick, though, just just a little a brief version of the anecdote about duffy because duffy relates very strongly to tokyo disney sea there were i promise everyone there will be a full duffy episode i have material i've been preparing for a duffy something for years and this is no joke years and years on my desktop is a file that says duffy and i've been going through message boards and you've
Starting point is 00:05:45 had to move that to multiple computers yes it's been moved multiple evenings where you have read aloud uh posts from the duffy message boards in bed late at night yes that's 100 by the way if if you don't know duffy is a teddy bear fair enough this is a teddy bear. Fair enough. This is a teddy bear character who mainly came from Tokyo originally. He didn't come from there originally. He was originally in the States, I believe, and he was not popular. And then they moved him to Tokyo, and he was the second only to Mickey in popularity. And there's a whole Cape Cod section of Tokyo DisneySea where Duffy and his friends now. There's a whole Duffy universe.
Starting point is 00:06:29 They love Duffy. You seeuffy on all everyone's purse there'll be a big like fluffy duffy head or duffy's friend shelly may duffy head purses that they wear not on the side or even across their chest but hanging around their necks like a necklace right so yeah so so we when we first started going to lindsey and i started going to dis Lindsay and I started going to Disneyland together, we would make jokes. Everyone is made, I'm not saying this makes us unique, but everyone would make a joke about Duffy. And like, oh, who is Duffy? What is this, like the Disney bear? Right.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So we make Duffy jokes and blah, blah, blah. And it was a nice time. And then Mike, of course, had to take it. It was a nice time. I took it too far. I still don't think this is... I wouldn't say too far. I wouldn't say too far.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I'll give context. You tell it. I'm not sure exactly how you're going to put it. Well, I think it was your 30th birthday. Yeah, that was the problem. And... Uh-oh. But the thing here is the thing.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I had gotten you other gifts and we went out to dinner. Oh, yeah. Now I remember. We had gone out to dinner. So it wasn't like this was the only thing. But I remember i was down there on like a weekday my mom was visiting and my sister and i were all down there and i was like it'd be funny lindsey and i were always joking about duffy i'll go i'll get her a duffy so i bought you a duffy and i bought two outfits i bought his like sombrero and like yeah poncho outfit and then a full like uh pit cars cars outfit for him uh that it looked like lightning
Starting point is 00:07:48 mcqueen's colors like he was on lightning mcqueen's pit crew i was like this is so funny and like my mom was even like oh it's a cute bear like my mom wasn't like what are you doing what would you do that so i felt like i was feeling like i was getting um uh you know support from my family for doing it which so I got it for you and you were like you were like it was just not that you said it like that but it was definitely like I imagine it came out like oh yeah and I'm good I think I'm not even bragging when I'm usually pretty good at gifts I usually do a decent job and first year dating I was blown away by the Christmas present you got me, which was also Disney related. Disney related.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But I've gotten other, there's other gifts that have been very, I can't think of one off the top of my head, but they're all pretty thoughtful. No, I think you're far better at gifts than I am. Yeah, so it's not like I'm a total heel, but for the 30th birthday, you were not thrilled to get Duffy in a pit crew outfit.
Starting point is 00:08:44 It wasn't even, it was sort of like, that was like the big gift. I mean, I was so excited about the Duffy. And I felt terrible for giving a lukewarm reaction. Right, right, right. No, it was not a big deal. I wanted to be more excited about it. I think if it were now,
Starting point is 00:09:02 where I'm like- Now that you've gotten more used to my garbage. Yeah, where I've been like just broken down yeah taught to expect less for myself um like just learned that i'm deserving of like less love than i originally thought now i'd get that and be like, oh my God. Thank you so much. This is the best gift I've ever gotten. That's good. But at the time, I still was like, right? Like pearl earrings, right?
Starting point is 00:09:32 30th birthday is a big deal. Right. And also I think I was just like, to get maybe a little too personal. I get very personal on my podcast and I talk about you and I talk about us. So I don't know. Oh, really? Probably far less than happens here. That's a plug for teen creeds just go back and listen for my conventions yeah we tell we certainly tell stories but i think you get into it a little
Starting point is 00:09:55 deeper yeah um but it was like a couple years into our relationship and, and it's possible. I don't exactly remember the timeline. Go ahead. Possible. We had yet to say, I love you to each other. Yes, that is. I think that might be right.
Starting point is 00:10:14 It took us two years, so it could have happened. Whoa. Wow. We're both weird. What? Do it like me and say it after a week and not know the gravity was that after a week uh i know you said it after like hearing lionel richie's hello or something yes
Starting point is 00:10:32 technically our first time was during yeah we were doing karaoke and the part in lionel richie's hello came up where i'm saying i love you and we did look each other in the eye like i know this is fake but do is this kind of really the first time uh so that was kind of nice but I mean more the other I think I told on the podcast about a year ago that I the first time I ever said I love you to anyone was uh after a kiss in a hot tub at a San Antonio Hilton oh yeah yeah yeah uh and that when I'm 15 like you're tossing out I love you willy nilly it's like it's waiting until you know it is a good
Starting point is 00:11:09 is a good thing or waiting until Richie's playing or waiting until you get Duffy he's a magical bear it's because I hadn't said it before so I was just like to anyone oh I see so it was a big deal for me and that's why i was like
Starting point is 00:11:25 holding out and i don't know we've always phrased it like when we first started dating we were like two nervous kittens circling each other that's fair yeah so that added to it so i think that might have been part of it it's all what is this relationship for my 30th birthday i got a duffy right well i i kind of remember though like any negative feelings mike would have felt about the duffy thing were probably overcome pretty quickly when like uh me and some other friends were over and he's like look at this look what i did and he was showing off the duffy was so pleased with himself yeah i mean again it wasn't like you were like so mad i mean it was just like a little bit of a deflated balloon so like i think if it hadn't been like what's supposed to be like a landmark birthday yes it was that wouldn't have
Starting point is 00:12:14 happened yeah you weren't like so furious at me or whatever and then like you felt bad that like i just was like did oh this is a funny silly thing that's an inside joke so it wasn't like some so it wasn't like it was some like horrible atom bomb in the relationship and then jason came over i was like look what a little stinker i am no that was not what the the tone of it did we did go look what a little stinker yeah but it wasn't like it wasn't in the context of like you did tell it was very funny to hear you go like i she gets, she, it was fine. Anything in a comedian's life, it's like, even if it doesn't, like, it becomes funny 30 seconds after the fact. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Like, it immediately is a funny story that you tell. So even if in the moment I was like, wow, thank you. Was it the grand finale? Was it presented as a now your final gift? It might have been. It probably was. That is maybe the issue. It was the biggest part.
Starting point is 00:13:10 It was the centerpiece. I was the most excited about it. I thought it was going to be funny, but also he's a cute bear. It was funny and cute. It's a fun piece of weird Disney. I had an ex who I was at Disneyland. I knew she liked Eeyore and i thought oh you know it'd be fun like i found some eeyore earrings this is fun i hadn't really been buying
Starting point is 00:13:31 her i still am i'm no i i'm afraid of jewelry gifts i will vouch for mike and say what a stressful uh i don't i don't know that i have done it for her i think my gift to her is not buying her horrible jewelry no I feel like you need to I feel like you need a link. I feel like they must supply a link of like, this is something I like or it's something you know I know they have this in
Starting point is 00:13:56 X color stone. I will get them the complimentary like another color something. I'm just saying pearl earrings are classic and I don't know why everybody's so resistant. It's hard to mess up pearl. If I gave you... Did you ever get the fucking pearl earrings?
Starting point is 00:14:10 No. This wasn't something I'd said to him. She didn't vocalize it. I'm saying this because one year I did get pearl earrings for my birthday. From who? We don't need to talk about that. If I had gotten you a Shelley May with pearl pearl earrings what about that i don't think she existed yet oh yeah maybe she was pretty new i called on our first orlando trip and our first
Starting point is 00:14:33 trip to orlando which is four or five five years ago i guess uh i called customer service and asked if there's any way they could have a shelly may waiting for us in the room. Oh, yeah. But they only sold it in Japan. I would like to say that on a birthday or maybe Valentine's Day or something after that, I shipped a Shelly Mae. Yes, you bought me Shelly Mae. I got you Shelly Mae from Japan. Wow. And then my sister got me Gelatoni, the Italian painter cat.
Starting point is 00:15:01 And then Marissa Strickland. Yes, got me Tippi Blue. And me too. And Jason Tippi Blue. So Jason and I both have Tippi Blue. You have multiple. The bird painter cat. And then Marissa Strickland. Yes, got me Tippi Blue. And me too. And Jason Tippi Blue. So Jason and I both have Tippi Blue as the bird mailman. Your primary gift. I have four Duffies. I have not kept up.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I don't have Cookie. I don't have, what's the turtle? Oh, I forget the turtle. Olanu? Yeah, but just at Olani. Olani, yeah. I did not remember. Oh, that's why I didn't remember.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And Cookie is exclusive to Hong Kong. And then the other character is Stella Liu, the bunny. But she's available at Tokyo Disney. Anyway. Oh, can I say really fast? Does Mike quiz me on these names? Yes. Just now and then.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I am also annoying in the sense that I quiz. All of this also makes you tied as our most patient guest. Tied with one Aaron Gare certainly yeah yeah I am bummed at like how typically like male female yeah binary idea of gender
Starting point is 00:15:56 like these relationships are where it's like oh our men talk about sports and we listen politely yeah it is except that Aaron and i do both like really like the theme parks it's up just obviously oh yeah yeah absolutely no that's that's exceedingly that is what i try to tell people because they're i'm like you know she doesn't like it as much and they're like oh okay i know what you're saying i'm like no no i think but like she's
Starting point is 00:16:17 in the percentile of people that really like it like for the average person just saying you go as much to disneyland as you they'd be like what's wrong with you why would you do that yeah so like for a nor again a normal person you're a high in a high level of fandom and interest i think lindsey and aaron are in like in the in the 90 percent zone yeah we are like 140 that's the issue. You're at the highest tier. We're at an untenable, not sustainable high tier. If after 90 it started increasing
Starting point is 00:16:52 exponentially. It's a half-life. The reverse half-life maybe? That's exponential. Can I finish something really fast? It's not a straight detail. Your earrings. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Oh, right. I'm sorry. This is cute. I know. It's just a fun little thing. Who cares if they're cheap and whatever? And I gave her your earrings. And her response was, do you really think I would wear these?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Wow. Ouch. Heartbreaking. Crazy. Was that hot tub girl? No, no, no. Different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:26 She might have been nice about the earrings. But it certainly was an Erin who is so nice, who I appreciate so much. Who you buy her poo earrings all the time, and she wears them proudly. She works in her top everywhere she goes. It's like those pig cufflinks in that episode of The Simpsons, Lisa's wedding. We did, you know, our wedding cake topper was, I think I said this on the show, there was an R2-D2 and an Ernie who was this robot who was the mascot for the 1982 World's Fair.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Right, which I would never have heard of. What's that? Which I would never have heard of myself. Uh-huh, if we were not carrying the torch for Ernie. Big Ernie fans. Had the most important day of our lives. So anyway, look, Disney-oriented gift giving
Starting point is 00:18:07 can be tough and there's pitfalls. Yeah. But look, you survived. You made it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I think you're great now. You just have to do it responsibly. Right. And I've done it more responsibly buying gifts. That Disney soundtrack,
Starting point is 00:18:21 is that the gift you were talking about? That was the big Christmas gift. The soundtrack thing I got you, and it was very cool. Also, can I just say, you were talking about the disneyland soundtrack thing i got you very and it was very it's very cool you also can i just say you were talking about like things falling in a traditional gender binary right after your boyfriend went on and on about
Starting point is 00:18:33 how many teddy bears he has i just meant that dynamic yeah sure like traditionally like women in the kitchen talking about their things men in the living room talking about their things kind of a kind of except your things are also the disney parks yeah separate but i think also it's like um part of that dynamic is that it tends not to be a two-way street well i think it i think a lot of it and i try to pick my battles a lot of it is that i think for years i'm too dumb or oblivious to realize that like you didn't care about hey did you know here's what the speculation is on the tomorrowland redo so i think a lot of the it's not a two-way street in that way specifically because you at a certain point would be like i
Starting point is 00:19:24 don't really care about this i don't necessarily care so like i think at a certain point i was sending you every single website i read yeah and i was telling you every single rumor and at a certain point you're like i don't need this much you just redirected he built the dam and redirected that stream to me and scott yeah yeah here we are yeah scott is uh me replacement for that okay great like jason was already in the picture i'm too much for scott with the information i think too i think there's i i think i only a little there's a couple there's a couple levels of not level but like a couple areas you and i love the horse race and i jason and i think bond over the fact that we will we can do we can do any version of it
Starting point is 00:20:06 he'll listen to me talk about the Fast Pass program whether he's that interested or not he is happy to hear 30 minutes on different ways to get Fast Pass and Max Pass and the benefits of it and why that's the difference I think which does make you and I
Starting point is 00:20:22 more mentally ill than everyone I think yes correct I think, which does make you and I more mentally ill than everyone, I think. Yes. Correct. I just need to think if something could be framed as a story, maybe that's what you need to like distill instead of like reporting every little thing. It's like, how do we frame it? Yeah, there's not like a beginning, middle and end. It's an interesting thing because I think everyone has different, I think we've talked
Starting point is 00:20:44 about everyone has different friends for different parts of their lives and different Interests and I'm a very I text A lot I like to share stuff Daily with different people Yeah but I'm trying to think now I'm looking All three of you it's like all three of you are looking at me It's a weird configuration now that I'm Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:58 Because usually that chair is moved over a little more So it's more of a square but right now it feels like I'm on trial and all our mic stands moved over a little more so it's more of a square. But right now it feels like I'm on trial. And all our mic stands are pointed right at you. It's like the part in Captain EO where they're all like shoving those sticks in your face. This is a scary experience for you. Your guys' are pointed at Mike
Starting point is 00:21:15 and Mike and mine are pointed parallel. You're both pointed at Donald. It is true. I am realizing now we should have definitely moved Scott's chair over there so that we were in a circle. Yeah, it's fine. It doesn't matter. I'm usually like right here and the green chair I think historically is actually more
Starting point is 00:21:34 like there. So then it ends up being kind of more of a circle. Well, you know what else is going on? Not to jump too far ahead, but since we are talking today about your guys' trip to Tokyo Disney, and I think part of the reason maybe that I'm further out than typical is that at some point in this episode,
Starting point is 00:21:52 I mean, I'm excited to hear everything that happened to you guys, but at some point, I want to give you guys the freedom to talk about rides that I have not been on and that I want to go on and I will be going in April. And it's such,
Starting point is 00:22:02 as I was saying before we started recording, it's a rare experience to get to go on rides that i know absolutely zero about so there will be a spoiler divide at some point in this episode and when the spoiler divide begins i'm going to literally get up and leave so you will hear for that so listeners that will also be a point for you to shut it off if you want to experience rides fresh but there are especially this right this sindbad ride i don't know a single thing about i don't know what kind of right it is i have no clue about it and i want to keep that intact and other rides there too so uh we're doing like 40 minutes on sindbad alone oh okay well then i'll sure you don't i because i brought a map i brought Because I brought paper reference material.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I brought maps of these parks that I've never been to. That Marissa and Justin brought back for me a couple of years ago with the tippy blue. Here's what I think is going to happen. I'm going to leave about an hour and a half in. And the podcast will continue for about three and a half hours beyond that. We'll be at season pass. And then I will be the Scott. We're all just replacing each other. We're all trying to fill each other's roles um just slowly but surely my shirt i'm uh wearing now will turn into a short sleeve button up
Starting point is 00:23:16 it'll sprout a collar and then we're just going into uh because we have the right number for this production a production of david mammoth speed the plow speed the plow he was play uh two men one women really is only uh jason and me type reference yeah i mean i know of it the spheres of people's uh uh yeah i topics and areas of interest mine doesn't cross into david i would bet it's venn diagrams i think it's a safe bet there's some broadway people venn diagrams i think it's a safe bet there's some broadway people in our audience i know there's some in your audience sure on your podcast so what some theater broadway people he's saying people that like broadway for sure um yeah this is this is we're gonna try to do i mean we went to pearl land which is like should be an
Starting point is 00:24:00 episode maybe we'll do pearl land are you guys going in april yeah yeah. Maybe we'll do Pearl Land. Are you guys going in April? Yeah, yeah. So maybe we'll do Pearl Land then. We all get together when we're back. When we're all back. We'll do it again. With Aaron. So we won't. Yeah, right. With Aaron, it'll come on.
Starting point is 00:24:13 We'll do five. Sure, who cares? We've done five before. It's, yeah, Pearl Land's great. So we went to Japan. We should start now. Yeah. We went to Japan.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I guess. We could talk. We'll talk a little bit about the trip. The trip started out a little rocky for a couple, like three reasons. First of all, there was a massive hurricane. No, no, no. Typhoon. Oh, typhoon.
Starting point is 00:24:34 You're right. Sorry. Massive typhoon the day before. Flights getting canceled constantly. Oh, yeah. Which my dad texted me about. He's like, hey, isn't Mike going to Japan this week? Yes. does he know
Starting point is 00:24:46 there's a massive massive typhoon the day before your lindsey's mom would come up to watch the dog and it was like like we we were like what are we gonna do if the flight is just canceled because like an international it's a little bit more of a to-do than just a regular and i was like can we get on a trip can we get on a trip? Can we get on a plane to Orlando? But there was also a hurricane. But there was also a hurricane happening in Florida. So we were like, okay, wait. And it was truly like,
Starting point is 00:25:12 the typhoon was the likes of which Japan hadn't seen in 25 years. Come on. It was a bad typhoon. So I just hit the dog. I just punched the dog in the head accidentally. He's fine. Well, well.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Is that evidence? I brushed up against his tail with my foot earlier and everyone was like, hey, watch the foot. And even the dog like nudged me a little at the end. Well, the dog liked me punching him in the head. So that was difference there. The dog has also been taught not
Starting point is 00:25:43 to expect as much love. Oh, okay you only give the dog look i am withholding that's true that's why sometimes nick called me withholding years ago and that's true so i yeah he says you aren't supportive with your laughs that's what nick mundy that is what he said yes i am not supportive and lindsey agrees with him i've always thought you were very supportive of, at least of my bullshit. Oh, that's because you're a goofy little character. I am. I'm a real cat. He laughs at goofy characters, not so much as hilarious comments that I make.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I laugh. This kind of explains why sometimes when I come over and sit down, the dog pretty much throws himself into my lap. Like, just god down and it's adorable michael pets michael pets edwin all day long constantly whereas i can really only do about 30 seconds why are you staring at me speaking of she's talking to the dog not me or any of us edwin wandered over here so i was talking anyway the type so so we're like i get well we'll just play it by ear obviously there's nothing else we can do so everything seemed fine we went to the airport we made okay time we got into the lounge because i've talked about the chase point the
Starting point is 00:26:56 chase credit card i have that gets access to i guess i leave now actually we didn't exactly that we didn't even make okay time because we barely missed that bus. Well, right. Yes. But I'm saying we barely made, we made at least for 35 minutes in the lounge, which Jason would love because there's free food there and as much as you want. Wait, wait, hold on. What bus did you take? The flyway? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 But we were like, we should have been five minutes earlier. You're going to the greatest theme park on the planet. And we're talking about the bus to the croissant place. We'll try to speed it up. Well, because the Van Nuys fly is much more reliable than a hot pot. I'm also setting up a big thing. We're in the lounge. We're having a nice little relaxing food.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Now I'm like, yeah, this is great. It seems like the trip's going to be great or whatever. In the middle of eating, you say something to me that just shoots my blood pressure through the roof this is after mine is already shut of course because that you realized that of course because it was happening to you so yeah so all of a sudden and i'm not sure what triggered the realization but i realized that i have left all of my psych meds at home i am on two mood stabilizers and i have left i all of them at home i i it was crazy and i like i had to hold on to the table as i realized it i was like no no no no no no no no no no no and you're in this dream about michael it's crazy well i'm just saying it was a crazy intense. I'm not crazy as five.
Starting point is 00:28:26 The Chase lounge is a she-creen. That's my word and I say it's okay. Well, it wasn't a Chase specific lounge. It was a different airline. They don't have their own lounges, Scott. I've explained this to you via text several times. Oh, that's another of your favorite subjects. It's called the priority pass.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Anyway, so at that point, yeah, I'm getting on the phone, seeing if we can delay the trip, seeing if there's any like situation, like what are the options here? I'm calling to see if Kaiser can mail me my medication. The answer is no. So there are post mates for psych meds. My sister was like, how much time do you have? I'll drive down there.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And if we had made that fly away, she might have been able to make it there with my meds but as it was there wasn't enough time so we're like walking and like we're walking toward the terminal because like the flight is about to leave like everyone had boarded like the like the the commotion and the calamity of like getting on the phone and you trying to figure everything out I looked and I was like we have to if we're getting on a plane, we need to go to the plane now. So we're walking and like, I'm saying, I don't think we should go.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I think we should stop because like you need those meds. Those meds are important. And I looked at it and it's also not just that I need them, but if I go off of them, you go into withdrawal. And then I would have had to slowly get back onto them when we got back so i'm like in a blind panic it seems to me like my mom is going to be able to ship them next day by ups but i'm not positive and so so we're we're at the counter everyone has boarded the plane there's no one else we're there waiting for us to get on the plane and we're at the desk and like we're like like not thinking completely straight and then we're like can we
Starting point is 00:30:09 get on another flight is there like something they're like this is the only flight today you'd have to call you booked it through american we were on a japan airlines flight you have to call american they can maybe see what what you can do and then you were and you started going i will be fine i'm gonna be fine well that's because i had made the mistake of telling her in hopes that like it might help us get a different flight yeah kind of i go and i say a medical emergency has come up i realized that i didn't bring my medication with me and they now now think I'm going to have a fucking seizure on the plane or something.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And so then I have to keep reassuring them like, no, no, no, I'm going to be fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. That you should not use the term medical emergency if there's not a true medical emergency happening in front of an airplane. So then you were like, we need to,
Starting point is 00:31:04 after it was clear that like there's not because we were hoping oh maybe there's a flight that leaves in three hours we can get on or something because then everything won't be affected which of course there's not yeah one of those international yeah they fly in japan you don't know whatever yeah so so once it was clear that like it's because then at that point i was like if it's a day or two delayed, like, we should probably cancel. Like, I don't like, we have a certain whatever. So then you were like, no, I'll be fine. We'll figure, it'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:31:31 We'll figure it out. I was like, are you sure? Snap decision. And then the two women are like, medical emergency? Are like, are you going to be okay on this flight? And then we would be like, no, no, it's fine. It's going to be great. She's not going to.
Starting point is 00:31:43 No, I just mean, I just meant. Yeah, yeah. I need it, but like, I'm not going to need it but like she does this all the time you are embarrassing me so we get on the again like for sure the last two people yeah and they close the door like behind us when we're like on the plane and i'm just like oh my god like what's gonna because we don't know like they're like this is sort of the behavior they expect from two wily gaijin coming to their country what blanking on your well that's uh that's what they call white people that's yeah yeah i was convinced you were making a star wars reference yeah it's just wily gaijin famous character it's uh he'll be on that too non-japanese and foreign people is what they call them i know the term because they use it
Starting point is 00:32:32 uh in wrestling over there which is a brief thing we'll touch on so we get on the plane and the japan airlines flight i enjoyed i kind of enjoyed myself it was great it was fun you're an economy but like there was a decent amount of leg room i kind of took a nap there was that weird mickey game if anyone follows me on twitter where you have to like fix fix mickey's pipes before he's having a party and i finished half of uh les miserables yeah um and then i was taking a nap and i realized that man my nose is really running and by the end of the flight i was sick i had a cold not a bad cold but a minor cold and but i was like we got we get off in tokyo it's a long flight thing is a minor cold with you i understand i'm also a pain in the ass when i'm sick of any like any type
Starting point is 00:33:17 of sick so upset i really yeah i hate it i think i was always very scared as a kid of being sick. So I'll blame it on my mom, I guess, for really being like, you shouldn't go to school if you're even sick at all. It's a big deal. You stay here and you sleep and you get better. See, I got the opposite. I think you're fine. Because sometimes I would make myself sick with worry. Well, I would do that too, sure.
Starting point is 00:33:43 If we get you a little breakfast and get you on the bus and get you set again you and take school you will feel better usually right sure yeah your medication treats was established at an early age yes a big plate of waffles yes uh yeah i mean basically what what you ate as a child in the 90s for breakfast before school was sugary cereal or waffles covered in syrup or, in my case, a lot of Jimmy Dean-based sausage on a stick wrapped in pancake. Sounds right. Oh, did you have the pancake, like the pig in a blanket on a stick that Jimmy Dean made? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Also, that wasn't... They had been around for years. Do you know what I'm talking about? The daily show did a whole bit about this yeah but it's like i was eating pancakes it was like a breakfast sausage link on a stick yeah like a corn dog and then pancake wrapped around it and you would dip it in syrup reminder this episode is about the greatest theme park on the planet just want to remind you. And we are talking about Jimmy Dean. Jon Stewart got a hold of this. We're painting a picture, Scott.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Four years ago and was like, isn't this insane? And it's like, that has been around since 1992. Like, it's like not a new. Anyway, that was you ate that every day. Got it. So we're in. We get big boy. So we're in.
Starting point is 00:35:08 We're in Tokyo. we're in we're in tokyo we're in the airport and like people gave us so much good stuff to like recommend but there's still there could be a better paragraph about navigating where to go out of the airport because it's an hour away from tokyo itself so like i'm in a haze i'm very cranky now because I'm worried. I'm sick. Your meds, who knows what's going to happen. Yeah, both of our brains are just taken up by other things. And then we're like just staring around at everything. And so many things are in English. And it was amazing to me. I was like, wow, we are being catered to in a way that we do not deserve.
Starting point is 00:35:40 It's so much easier than it feels right when you get there. Yeah, but there's just so much going on. we're like barely able to think yes so so we got there we do figure it out we get yen we exchange or whatever get to the hotel we stayed in a very tiny room hotel and very tiny insanely like two sides of the bed were not accessible. Only one side of the bed. There was only one side of the bed. Three sides of the bed weren't. There was only one side of the bed. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:36:10 You're right. I'm thinking the headboard part is never accessible. But you did make sure you didn't sleep in the entryway like the Hills did. Oh, I always climb over a headboard to get into bed. But you don't notice that. I guess I didn't. You didn't sleep just in the hallway like the Hills did on that great two parking the Hill episode where they go to Japan.
Starting point is 00:36:29 We saw those different hotels where like you're in a pod or something, but we did not do that. But that would have been almost the same. Yeah, I was going to say. Felt like. It wouldn't have been much different. And you're tall. It was just like too much. It was bad.
Starting point is 00:36:42 It was too small. And especially like sick, whatever. Excuse me. Not enough. Not too much. So we figured thank you we figured out the next day like we were looking at websites online and there are two websites that specialize in getting drugs to you if you've lost your drugs or forgotten them and you're in a foreign country whoa so we found a thing and you called and it was like, go to this doctor. It wasn't shady at all either. I was worried it was going to be some weird. Well, you found the site.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Like we both found stuff, but I liked the one that you found more. And I call and there's a clinic and we were able to go in two hours and I saw a doctor. I paid like 30 American dollars to see the doctor. It was like a copay. All he did was I showed him my prescription off my phone and he wrote up a new prescription with the, you know, formulaic equivalent. And I paid like 100 bucks for seven days worth of my two medications. Yeah. So thank God.
Starting point is 00:37:44 But also the harm was two medications. Yeah, so thank God. But also the harm was already done. Yeah, what do you mean? Well, I mean in like missing a day or so and in the medications being slightly different. So even if it's equivalent, I don't know how much you guys know about medication, but even if it's equivalent when it comes to psych meds, you might not respond to it exactly the same. so i spent the trip still being like kind of like with racing thoughts and paranoia
Starting point is 00:38:11 and not being able to get to sleep at night it was better than nothing yes for sure so but still yeah so you were so mixed up you thought gelatoni was the best bear. Yeah. He's a cat. Is he not? Oh, far right. I have no idea. Oh, I thought that was part of the joke. I was like, yeah, I thought a cat was a bear. I don't. I haven't been quizzed about Duffy. Yeah, I haven't quizzed you about that.
Starting point is 00:38:36 This all plays into my theory that as Mike gets older, he gets more caught up in hijinks than when we were young. I feel like Mike, because we have friends who deal, feel like they have a lot of hijinks uh uh than when we were i feel like mike because we have friends who deal feel like they have a lot of hijinks going on in like anytime they have planning stuff and mike seems to like yeah maybe i was gonna say it depends i think this was my hijink if you want to refer to forgetting my necessary psych meds i think it's a hijink jason what a fun little like wow boy i'm really up to something now like as i like move my arm and a little caught in the orbits of his this was my hijink there's people we know that seem very chaotic and I think that I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I kind of know what you're saying, but I don't think that chaos surrounds me like some people we know. No, I don't think it is. But then I feel awful when I hear these sorts of things happen. Mike's dealing with a hijink.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I'm so upset about Mike's hijink. But you are very, I think of you, you are very responsible. And you do plan well. Yeah, I think sometimes maybe like, my hijinks are like the city walk where I order a drink that's gross and too big and I don't know how to throw it away. I think I have like very low stakes hijinks. Low stakes hijinks. Like that. I think that's maybe what you're talking about more.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because I, because yeah, I, oh no, I ordered too big of a banana
Starting point is 00:40:10 from, from the popcornopolis. How am I going to eat this big banana? Oh no, I forgot my psych meds. Whoa. Mike and Lindsay's
Starting point is 00:40:21 Tokyo hijinks. The Benny Hill theme plays as we're in and out of Tokyo doctor's offices. I mean, that is a game show over there. Sure. Depriving people of their psych meds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Folks, it's Michael. I'm back to interrupt all this wonderful theme park talk to tell you just a little bit about a product called Eero Plus. Now, you're asking, what is Eero Plus? Well, it is a home Wi-Fi system, and it's designed to provide simple, reliable security that defends all your home's devices against a growing number of threats such as malware, spyware, phishing attacks, as well as unsuitable content. The combination of Eero with Eero Plus provides complete protection for your network and all the devices and those who use them as they connect to the Internet. All right. Now you're asking, Mike, what is included? I will tell you.
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Starting point is 00:42:07 And I say, no, that is archaic. That is outdated, okay? You need a whole distributed system like Eero Plus. That's basically what people have been doing in offices for years. So now you have to get with the program is what I'm saying. Here's another thing that's great about Eero. It's got incredible customer support. You can get somebody on the phone within like 30 seconds. I just tried to get on the phone with a ticket place.
Starting point is 00:42:26 It took me 30 minutes, not Eero Plus. All right, so let me tell you about my personal experience. I got the box. First of all, the box is awesome. The box is very sleek. It's very satisfying opening it up. And it's like a very nice design, which also the product's very nicely designed.
Starting point is 00:42:43 It looks good. So I take it i start installing it 15 minutes that's crazy i thought it was gonna take me like three hours because i usually screw everything up i did not screw this up and it's mostly because it was easy not because i'm skilled or anything so here's the thing i had a dead spot as far as wi-fi was concerned in this room where i keep most of my toys so now after euro plus i can get wi- concerned in this room where I keep most of my toys. So now after Eero Plus, I can get Wi-Fi in the room where all my toys are. So it's very good. I highly recommend this thing. And let me just tell you right now about this special offer for Podcast to Ride listeners.
Starting point is 00:43:18 You can get $100 off the Eero base unit and two beacons packages and one year of Eero if you visit Eero.com slash theme park and at checkout enter theme park I think you're going to be very glad you did make sure your figure room has full wi-fi coverage so so yeah so we luckily again the cold was not so bad. Luckily, you were working at like, what, 70% capacity? Yeah, sure. Something like that. And then right across the street from the medical clinic was the Tokyo Tower. Yeah, so the Tokyo Tower, which is a landmark in Tokyo we had no idea.
Starting point is 00:43:56 It's actually not that famous, but it looks exactly like the Eiffel Tower, only it's orange. It's black and orange. It's orange? It was so weird. So we'll try, you know, like this is a, there's, this is very touristy themed experience. You go up to the top,
Starting point is 00:44:10 but we paid to go to the very top of it. And before you go, there's a themed little show where like the creator of the Tokyo Tower talks to a different painting of another man. It was actually very Disney-like. Yeah, very, very. Like we got there and we're like
Starting point is 00:44:25 oh because like yeah this is great you can feel when the like your imagineering pre-show is happening and that's definitely happened there and then like you're wearing like all of the walls of the little room we went in for the little like tokyo tower creator guy talking to you from a moving portrait there were these just 2d walls just flat walls made to look like it was a library and then one of the books was hurry potter not harry potter hurry potter i don't know you don't know what that that wasn't a pun that was clear not clear i don't know huh i think it, and not all the books had the titles clear. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:07 But one jumped out at me and it was Harry Potter. Mm-hmm. Strange. So, yeah, and we have like headphones in that had English translation of everything. And you go up to this, the very top, which is scary a little bit. You love it. You love those heights. Yeah, I didn't mind. The elevator was scary.
Starting point is 00:45:20 The elevator is the scary part because you're just like going in the middle of the giant Tokyo Tower, which feels like the Eiffel tower um and then that was fun and there was we should have there's a there was a theme park in the tokyo tower we didn't go to yeah because we were trying to get to some other place by six o'clock and this whole thing was just a yeah we're trying to get to flying by the seat of our pants because of the prescriptions and whatever but there was a full like weird not like it's like not rides but like pirate theme theme park that we almost went into but we didn't have time there's a lot of that in tokyo where you all just happen upon a theme park and you're like we don't have time for this theme park we can't we're going to another theme park in two
Starting point is 00:45:59 hours and that is the thing i think we we shouldize. Like when Disney opened in Tokyo, like everyone was on board. Like immediately the culture was on board for it. The people were on board. They loved it. Unlike Paris. Yeah, unlike Paris where it was like treated with disdain and suspicion and stuff. And yeah, there's all of these theme parks in Japan now. So the next day we went and again,
Starting point is 00:46:26 we tried to get to Tokyo Disney as quickly as possible. We walked, we were going to go see Japanese wrestling, New Japan wrestling to see the greatest professional wrestlers in the world in the main event, Kenny Omega, Tamiro Ishii, Kazuchika Okada, and Kota Bushi. And Jelatoni. The Italian wrestler. And theyatoni. The Italian wrestler. And they were wrestling.
Starting point is 00:46:47 The Italian-Japanese wrestler. They were wrestling at a place called Kuriken Hall, which is right by Tokyo Dome, which is where they play a lot of baseball games. And honestly, we were just going to get tickets and then go do something else. And we were walking toward the area on the Google map, and we look up and we see the Ferris wheel
Starting point is 00:47:04 and a roller coaster goddamn amusement park and we go nowhere is a room like amusement park here and we so we walk in and it's just like we couldn't tell if everything was running or not it's it was very strange it almost felt almost in parts of it abandoned but then we see like power rangers show tomorrow and we're like oh we can't go to that we're going to another theme park tomorrow and like there's just too much there's too many rides here and we're like holy shit what is this place and it's a very touristy place called tokyo dome city and it's by far i think my favorite day in tokyo itself we only had four days three or four days i forget in tokyo like all the areas of tokyo we went to were very cool but we just didn't have enough time with them but we spent tokyo dome we ended up we were there all
Starting point is 00:47:50 day in tokyo dome basically city and which was not people have sent me lists of like here's what you should do when you go in april and this has not been on lists no i mean no one has ever talked about this we know this is just because of the magic of professional wrestling. Touches our lives once again. Of course. So there was a Taco Bell there that I ate at. And it was fascinating because you could order your heat level on the menu there. So you could pick your meat or whatever. And then you could say medium or mild, medium, or spicy.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I was like, this is amazing. This is the greatest. Greatest theme park in the world. Greatest theme park in the world. We went to a space museum world we went to a space museum we went to a space so then there's another building that's like has five levels and there's a roller skating rink that you skated on for like 45 minutes and it looks like it's straight from the 80s because all this stuff is built in the 80s and it's barely touched but everything is very clean but it's not touched everything's clean everything
Starting point is 00:48:42 is clean in japan it's great. Bathrooms are immaculate. Oh, I miss the bathroom. Yeah, bathrooms are amazing. Every time I go into a bathroom now, I'm just disgusted. People have so much respect there. Yes. And then we went to the space-themed tourist trappy thing where it was like two different experiences where you're in a room and the wall kind of looks like kind of three-dimensional.
Starting point is 00:49:04 It's like boxy. but then all of a sudden like the cubes all turn into stuff and it's it's a they're actually screens they're all yeah they're all screens and then there might be some projections as well and they're just we didn't we made the mistake of not getting like the headphone that told us what was happening in english yeah it was so there's no way to know what it was but it was cool looking yeah and then we went into a room that was supposed to like simulate you're flying through the galaxy so it was just a big screen in this in the like the bottom of the floor and you like lean over it was like looking down into a circular imax screen right and that was not as cool as the other one but it was fine and then there's a whole like there's like photo ops where like i took i made a i think i made the video on
Starting point is 00:49:50 twitter where i was talking to the little prince yes you did yes and there i think it was like hey it's your boy michael here with the little prince in tokyo yeah yeah yeah uh and then there's like picture like we have pictures with aliens and we're like everything's a theme park here this is the greatest little lab or like work room in the in the space museum or whatever it would be called that was actually like university of tokyo like oh yeah yeah physicists like right there were like there were like calculations on a whiteboard and people at desks and i was like what the hell it was science labs or theme parks as well yeah everything's a theme park yeah it was like in the old days i guess surrounded by a theme park yeah like when you could see animators at mgm studios basically yeah it kind of was yeah so
Starting point is 00:50:40 we um so then yeah and then there's there basically, it's a weird configuration. It all feels like it was built up piecemeal. There's not a grand design. So there'll be store, store, bubblegum shrimp restaurant, then a ride just in a section that looks like it should be just another store. There's a ride. There's a log flume ride. There's a log flume ride that just goes right by stores. And people work or whatever. Yeah, people work.
Starting point is 00:51:06 And like it's not themed at all. It's just the track and a log or not even a log theme. It's like just a piece of plastic that you're surfing down. And we went into this weird like kind of Buzz Lightyear ride. And it's, let me bring up the picture of it. What is it called? Oh, yeah. it's not the depths that's the maze i love the haunted maze um you love haunts i love haunts now oh please don't
Starting point is 00:51:32 encourage this uh it was called haunts now he's told me did he tell you about that that he liked it's one of the funniest things he's i don't know what it was, but he just like sort of apropos of nothing went, I love haunts now. It was just silence and then cracked up. Like we had been talking about something. It was like, oh, do you want to? We were like maybe scrolling through Netflix looking for a horror movie to watch. And maybe that's when you said, yeah, I love haunts now. I was serious.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Scott, is this okay if I give you some spoilers from the ride, the dive at Tokyo Dome City? You're fine with this. Okay, so like the dive is like kind of like a steampunky thing and you're in a vehicle that looks like this. What does that look like? It's a big, tall, I should have a picture. It kind of looks rocket. It's like a big, tall, like, I mean, it's like a big tall like i mean it's like it's like an underwater type some undersea exploring right or something and you uh stand in it when you hold guns out
Starting point is 00:52:34 the window whoa yeah and like what yeah well there's like this is the skull captain he's a character it's it's hard to see it probably but like there's kind of very cool designed like steampunky like evil like underwater characters and uh damn so like it was very it's too short it's very very short but it was cool not dissimilar from um don't spoiler from a dream i had yeah great okay very good uh so the dot this is what the outside of it looks like it's like just a weird like this is themed but this is just a the top of another mall park or something and you're next to like yeah yeah exactly that's actually the training mechanism for the japan self-defense forceefense Force because they don't have a standing army. The dive?
Starting point is 00:53:28 Yeah, the dive. It's like that America's Army video game or stuff. You have to go through it 500 times. Now you are an official member of the Japanese Army. Now the thing with my love of haunts is that now I'm regretting because
Starting point is 00:53:43 we walked by a terrifying looking haunted house and lindsey wanted to go in it more than i did but she couldn't bring herself to go in um but it was it was one in which you would be given rope and you would have to bind a ghost's feet and also she was like under you and could grab at your feet. Yeah. And it was the story was this woman. You had to take your shoes off, right? Yeah, you had to take your shoes off. You had to take your shoes off in this maze. So the story of the haunted house was that this woman accidentally destroyed a moth specimen of her husband's and to punish her he put like moth powder or ground up moths in her face powder
Starting point is 00:54:28 and she used the powder and it disfigured her and then he and it turned out no she hadn't destroyed the moth specimen he and his lover just wanted to get her out of the picture and so she dies and then they but then she haunts the house and you have to bind her feet to free her spirit ironically so you would bind like an actor's feet yeah whoa to get out of there you don't rub moth powder into an actor's face no she already got hurt by the moth powder there's not some some new component no no yeah we're giving you moth powder so we didn't do it i i think i would have done it now i do think i would have done it even though it sounds post not scary post not scary farm i love feet binding now i love oh no bad reference in relation to japan
Starting point is 00:55:17 they have the thing there there are the ones with the psychosexual madness of like let's make the feet binding a haunted house. Might be a Chinese thing now that I think about it. Well, we'll cut it out if we look at it. I feel like it's in the good earth. If it's racist, we'll cut it out. So, yeah. So we were like just running around that place like children. Like, whoa, look over here.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Look what this is. This is weird. And then you went roller skating while I waited in line for tickets. They only have cash for the wrestling show. And then while I was waiting for you to be done, I went and had a drink and cheese sticks at the TGI Fridays next to Currican Hall. And I was like, this is the greatest day of my life.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Going to Japan and going to a TGI Friday. You remind me of home. And to Taco Bell. Yes, I did. It was a very American day. And then we went to see how Japanese wrestling in this just old ass
Starting point is 00:56:13 like gym-ish type place. And we had just the worst beer and popcorn. It was great. We stood in the back. The main event was incredible. Maybe five star match. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:56:24 So then we went to Tokyo Dome City Hotel or Tokyo Dome Hotel. And they have an amazing view of the theme park. It's the colors. They sent a picture to Scott. I've shown it to him. I'm like, you got to go here. Yeah, as soon as we went in there, we're like, oh, my God. Scott and Aaron would love this place.
Starting point is 00:56:37 It was like very my taste. Weston Bond adventure. Yeah, it was like mid-'80s. Oh, baby. Like luxury. Yeah, that hotel looked great. And it's not like been – it's like the exact same like mid 80s yeah oh baby luxury that hotel looks great and it's not and it's not like been it's not it's like this exact same in the 80s it's like the nice version of what it
Starting point is 00:56:50 looked like in the lobby and there's a sizzler in the lobby and like we went up to this lounge and it's like there's too many people working there and there's only like it was like club 33 and there's like six people maybe 12 people like they pull the chairs out for you and you're just sitting at the bar looking at this crazy weird theme park and we're like this is the best how many days do you spend in the Tokyo Ducks? Four that's my answer
Starting point is 00:57:15 I thought so. Maybe we stay there we were talking about staying there the next time we go. I think that is probably what will happen. I'll keep in mind and maybe during like new japan's g1 when there's like a lot of shows wrestling shows uh so uh so yeah we did that uh scrolling through your phone right now i was checking the show twitter account don't do that during the show i do it during the show all the time and you don't say anything.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I had no sight notes. Lindsay came in here to razz and roast. That's something a mom's allowed to do. I wonder where she got that from. She did it before me. So we went to Pearl Land. We'll talk about Pearl Land on the episode.
Starting point is 00:58:01 We'll probably do a full Tokyo Dome City episode and a full pearl end of someone yeah yeah for sure yeah but perlin is great we were running around the gutatama the lazy egg area like again like children like we were like oh my goodness jason's yeah my beloved jason's favorite character in fiction the listless uh lazy egg your role model gutatama shows his there are so many different versions of kudetama showing his butt his little egg butt his little butt like there's 20 plus different ways he shows you his butt over the whole thing and his his human friend in the egg costume oh yeah what is that weird
Starting point is 00:58:40 perverts i don't know i don't know. The weird gimp looking egg man. Well, we'll figure that out for the Pearl Island episode. Is that an appropriate word? Gimp? Gimp? I think gimp is fine, I think, right? Yeah. We'll look that up too.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Research to do. But I mean in like the Pulp Fiction sense. Yeah, yeah, the sex gimp. Looks like that. That's fine. The sex gimp. I don't know. I don't know what you're thinking gimp is.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Yeah, no, I don't know. We'll look it up. All right. So, yeah. So then we did Pearl Island. And what you're thinking, Gimpies. Yeah, no, I don't know. We'll look it up. All right. So, yeah. So then we did Pearl Land. And then we went to, we did amazing, Mario Kart Virtual Reality, incredible themed experience. Like if that's like the Wreck-It Ralph thing,
Starting point is 00:59:13 they're built like amazing. Really? Like I think people will go nuts for it because it's truly, of all the VR stuff we did there too, like head and shoulders above the others. Yeah, it was really fun. People screaming. Me screaming as soon as every race on it yeah like john i mean scott's mic gonna be maybe a little uncomfortable because there's giant bullets oh i'm scared but that was one oh yeah talk about
Starting point is 00:59:36 that i hate when the big bullet goes by so like when you're immersed in the land okay and vr so yeah or take a xanax before yeah um so that was awesome another theme thing we got too late to robot restaurant as far as another themed again everything's a theme park we were too late to many things i feel like yes that's true so all right let's let's we'll get there so so we take the the subway The subway takes us into Tokyo Disney. And the difference with the monorail at Tokyo Disney is that you have to pay for it because it has to be a real line of transit. Yes. It is included in the transit system.
Starting point is 01:00:16 State owned. Right. So we had to buy a pass for days. And I guess, look, I'll say it now. How many days we spent at Tokyo Disney as we record this you guys went months ago we've not I haven't heard anything about a month and a half
Starting point is 01:00:33 we've been out a bunch of times I haven't heard anything about any of this because you've been saving it for the episode but also you don't want to hear half of it yeah although I will literally leave for half but this is yeah so we ended up spending at the tokyo disney resort three and a half days okay i'll take it and then you know what are you saying that i wanted five i will say
Starting point is 01:00:58 at least four at least four at least i would have loved five five would have been really great wow um but i do think i think there's a version of tokyo disney you can do and another thing we screwed up is i think we this trip was a sleepy one because of all like the hiccups at the rough start so we never quite got up as early as everyone says to get up. For sure, you can hit all the big rides that you want to do in two days. And I'm sure if you were being real on top of it, you could do just the big heavy hitters in a day. But I think to really absorb the atmosphere, three days, because there's still stuff we didn't do.
Starting point is 01:01:41 We want to see all the shows. We didn't get to go to the downtown Disney type area. we didn't even touch not even close yeah and then somebody was somebody messaged me and said there was a theme park close very close to it another one i don't even know what it's called so i was like oh that's not like it would have been great to explore that area and also it's right by the ocean and we were so happy just being a hotel room where we we slept in separate beds a couple nights. We were so excited to have space. It was like, no, get me under bed.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Stretching out. Like Lucy and Desi. No, I'm serious. Yeah. We weren't fighting or anything. It was just like, nope. But it was also good because then I could not fall asleep. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:20 That's true. So I would have kept you up. So, yeah. So we did three and a half days because the trip was ending. And at first i was like well we'll do something for a half day but then it was like the way the park hopper adds up it's like 30 more dollars for the fourth day and it's like what i may as well yeah because it's not a full ticket if well maybe it was a full day of like the same amount or like because also tickets are not as expensive there. They're like 70 bucks, I think. I forget.
Starting point is 01:02:46 60 bucks. Which that used to be the price for like 10, 11 years ago. That was the price for a single day Disney, a single day, single park. Sure. Can I say one thing? Yeah, of course. When I talk about days and planning,
Starting point is 01:02:59 I don't mean to be some virtuous, valorous hero for the people, for the less fortunate. But some of my thing with the days is spending. It's a relief to hear that Tokyo Disney is cheaper. But I would like to voice that when we talk about what's an ideal Disney World trip, well, it's 14 days and you spend $5,000. There are some people listening who do have to think about things financially.
Starting point is 01:03:26 But we are saying ideal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, some of my argument in all of this is a little bit like, what if you don't want to spend? Or you can't spend. Man of the people, Scott, does make the point. It's nice to hear that it's cheap. Scott, just cut your wine.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Cut your wine consumption in like half for once. There's this new bit about Scott and his wine. Old Ronnie Gardner. Unhelpful wino. The weekly wine budget of two grand. certainly it's not a it's not like the budget trip but an ideal we didn't do also i will to to speak to budget obviously if
Starting point is 01:04:15 you only have a certain amount you're you're i mean any of us have a certain amount yeah but if you have a budget and a limit obviously like do what you can do but like this also isn't like you can do a hotel room for 100 something bucks and then it's 60 extra dollars for two people to go so i'm saying it's not like you're spending extra grand that's all that's all no and i'm saying it's nice to know that it is yeah i just like you know i've i've had the thought when we've talked about what isn't it like that Disney World trip has to involve like just a mind boggling amount of money. Well, it doesn't always work. But we're always talking about in the, I think we were talking about in like the. We are both unemployed right now.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. You made this work. It's all good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was mostly, it was a trip based on points. Which a lot of which we got because I froze my eggs. That is true. We put Lindsay's egg freezing on credit cards.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Although I did not, if I'm going to be very specific, those are the SPG points that we haven't used yet. Is your egg card. Edwin is having a bad dream. So yeah. Having to deal with a future child in the house. Besides Jason. Yeah, besides me.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Edwin and I keep the same sleep schedule. Fighting over scraps. Which is a lot. So yeah, ideally, yes. Where you get to see it, especially with Japan, where it's like, it's not as easy to go to Japan as it is to go to Florida. So like, and Tokyo DisneySea, I will say, theme-wise, the best theme park.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Theme-wise. Awesome. Straight up, theme-wise, immersiveness. Are you disagreeing? I'm just, I'm trying to figure it out. And I realize this is something I should have decided on before the episode. Keep going. I was going to say like Diagon Alley might be my favorite themed area ever.
Starting point is 01:06:09 That's it. That's the one that I think is the absolute best themed area, even though there's not much space and there's really only like two, one ride. Yeah. Yeah. Diagon Alley specifically. But I think that that. But I'm saying theme park overall just everything everything added up the most like oh wow like oh there's this awesome thing and the
Starting point is 01:06:31 most amazing amount of like views and care oh care for sure but like views too where you would be would be in like the cape cod section and be like holy shit look at the view of the tower of terror from here and look at the boat from like it felt such like such i guess care is the word had been taken to make sure that everything was so scenic because like when you go in cars land there's that the one view when you're coming out of like that food area the boat like whatever the pier and that's like such an amazing cool view of that of the radiator springs racer ride yeah yeah it seems like such a wide epic vista and like it's tokyo disney sea is full of it and stuff like that where you all of a sudden turn around and you go whoa that's clearly they did this on purpose this was clearly built to be an
Starting point is 01:07:14 amazing picture and like a reveal it's all very cinematic it's very cinematic and there's so much transportation yeah just so like so much like so great i was looking at the maps today and just seeing like there is a boat that does the whole like laps the whole tokyo disney sea yes oh yeah we took that i think we took well we took half like we would go it like goes through the middle it goes through the middle yeah it doesn't go around it yeah it's not like the disneyland train yeah and the real i mean i got a lot of questions about the train scott i'll wait for you to leave honestly you got a lot of questions about the rail if you don't want the trains you're gonna be disappointed because we didn't go on that train no which in what park either of them
Starting point is 01:07:59 we just there were rides we i'm saying there were rides we did not get to. We needed five days. I love when Jason says the full Michael. Those are my favorite moments. I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. I am disappointed, too. I do want to ask. So what hotel did you...
Starting point is 01:08:15 Hold on. Let me just say this just so we get it out of the way. Didn't go on Big Thunder. Didn't go on Splash Mountain. Wow. The lines are so long. But also, there is a complication, which is that I had injured myself. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Oh, yes. Well, that happens. Hold on. That happens on TV. I struck my lightning, too. I guess this is, you know, this is a- I don't have the best health luck or- Accident luck.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Yeah. Because you injured yourself in Florida, too, when we were in Florida, and we had to go to the Disney doctor. I kicked a suitcase by accident, and then my toe was just fucked up the whole rest of the trip. But this is maybe, it was a very rainy day and you slipped down the stairs of the dozer. I slipped on a step and then landed hard on my butt on a step. We were in the middle of a giant crowd. You slipped and fell and it made such a loud noise and impact everyone
Starting point is 01:09:06 in the station stopped yeah they froze froze and turned in horror and not just turned they gasped yes in unison for the same duration of time it was like oh yes the behavior of a graceless guy gin display for all of the trans calling my legitimate health scares hijinks
Starting point is 01:09:35 no traits for you after dinner financial situation would change drastically at least like cut back on wine Jason is out of control. He's a real Gaijin heel today. Hey, we fight. Yeah, this is a good phrase.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Let's put it back on you. Oh, sure. Well, I am the most. Yeah, I am the Gaijin of this episode. Well, let me. So what when you. Well, you have a shirt out And a pen Okay so
Starting point is 01:10:05 Just to finish up So it hurt to even walk So I didn't want to go on Big Thunder You hit the stair So hard I was I remember
Starting point is 01:10:14 I froze too Because of the way In which it happened And the noise And everything For And you said You had the same thought
Starting point is 01:10:23 I go What's broken And we're hospital like i everything flashed of like okay can she even walk there was a moment where i couldn't feel my body and i thought i might not be able to walk again jesus it was so intense like and i've like taken a spill before like in a puddle like the clearest one i remember is like i slipped in a puddle in front of a target and then stood up and just laughed it off so any times that any time i have slipped before i've immediately stood up and just laughed it off this time i was like no i can't move for a second it was terrifying yes was terrifying. It was the most terrified I've been of you falling, I guess.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I don't know. You were worried of my well-being? Yeah, maybe, yeah. You were worried it would be your last hijink. Yeah, the final hijink to end all hijinks. At least go out with a bang. Oh, like I said, like, whoa! It was that, but literally.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Jason, yes, you have a question my paperwork uh so when you uh moved to the tokyo disney area oh yeah what hotel did you stay at the we're never gonna talk about rides the sheridan we went to sheridan tokyo bay we just want to keep you here as long as possible i I literally have to leave at some point. How deep are we? We were like first... Oh, time-wise? It's 4.51. Hour and eight minutes. The Sheraton Grand
Starting point is 01:11:56 Tokyo Bay Hotel, which is a Tokyo Disney Resort official hotel. That's correct. But not a Disney hotel. Correct. Tell me about a ride. Please, tell me about one ride please tell me about one ride all right what is the ride you want to hear about uh let me see hold on let me give it let me give you guys your souvenirs they're just they're tiny honestly i was looking i was looking for losing energy like a little two children here take me to a ride i don't even i don't even remember
Starting point is 01:12:22 um what's in these oh um i was looking for something very specific but they don't even remember what's in these I was looking for something very specific but they don't have everything's very general in a different way there so I was looking for something really cool and specific to rides but it's lacking in that department but I got something that I thought was a
Starting point is 01:12:37 you pointed this out when we were in the gift shop the candy shop that there was a funny phrase on this and then I just got two of them I shop, that there was a funny phrase on this. And then I just got two of them. I was like, oh, this is a funny little thing. Oh, I do remember. I don't even know what's in here, if it's good or not.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Are we gone? I'm going to read the phrase that's on this and why we enjoyed it. Oh, it all started in 1983. Thank you, guys, so much. Tokyo did and Everything I Love did. There's extra bags. If you want a bag here, you can have a bag. They give you extra
Starting point is 01:13:12 bags since you're buying it for souvenirs. What's in this tin? I have no idea. Open it. The bags are beautiful. We bought it because of the phrase. You know me well. I'm sorry. I really feel intense. The park started in 1983. We bought it because of the phrase. You know me well. I'm sorry. What is the...
Starting point is 01:13:25 I don't... I'm really feeling dense. The park started in 1983. But it's like a funny thing. But that's not when it all started. The Disney phrase is always, it's all started with a mouse or something. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Okay. And then we're like, what? It didn't all start in 1983. But it's similar to my favorite phrase that Epcot, the 21st century begins October 1st, 1982. This is like a cousin of that but it's similar to my favorite phrase that epcot the the 21st century begins october 1st 1982 this is like a cousin of that yes yes yes me very happy okay tell me this all
Starting point is 01:13:52 right all right what's the red uh i'm so excited to go because it seems like tomorrowland is locked in 1983 perfection how is their tomorrowland uh it it better. It's better than Disneyland. Well, I don't know though because the layout of it I don't love. There's awesome... There's just not much to it. There's not much to it. But if there's big old spires and fountains
Starting point is 01:14:17 then I'm set. I think that... And weird tubes and shit. Don't put your expectations too high for Tomorrowland and Tokyo Disneyland. I've seen photos. I think they're right where they need to be. tubes and shit. Don't, don't, don't put your expectations too high for tomorrow and, and Tokyo. I've seen photos there. I think they're right where they need to be.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Maybe you're good. Maybe you're going to love it. All right. So I guess, uh, you asking the question and us giving you an answer was unnecessary. I'm not satisfied with your answer. Uh,
Starting point is 01:14:38 um, how's their star tours? Uh, star tours. Oh, uh, it's well, there's a,
Starting point is 01:14:44 you don't want any spoilers We can't say that We shouldn't tell you We can't tell you that The ride itself Is the ride It's the same There's an area
Starting point is 01:14:53 That's fun And we shouldn't Tell you about Okay There's an area Okay we'll say this There's an area That's like an extra area
Starting point is 01:15:00 In the queue And there's An amazing line Thing That we didn't realize was there and we turned a corner went whoa yeah all right it's like very visually jason you want to write this down and as soon as scott's gone we'll reveal all the things we're saying oh yeah let me hear oh that's actually a really good idea yeah go for it do you want to make a note
Starting point is 01:15:24 on your phone? I'll write them down. When you're scrolling through Twitter, you can pretend you're writing it down. Jason just frowned at me. This is going to be a hard time. We all have our processes. Processes. We're all professional podcasters here.
Starting point is 01:15:42 We all do it a little differently. What is in there? Oh, the tin contains, they look like odd little espresso bean kind of thing. Individually wrapped. Beautifully wrapped. I'm not totally sure. Everything there is individually wrapped. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Okay. This wouldn't be a spoiler, but I hear that that Aquatopia is a very pleasant thing. The water-otopia. Oh, in DisneySea. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We went on that. It's over by the Nemo and Friends Sea Rider. It's very pleasant thing. The water Autopia. Oh, in DisneySea. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We went on that. It's over by the Nemo and Friends Searider.
Starting point is 01:16:08 It's the outdoor thing. I have such a bad memory. He's reminding me right now. It's the Wi-Fi. It's Wi-Fi basically controlled, but it's on the water. It's in the back towards Discovery Bay. Hold on. I got to show you a picture of this.
Starting point is 01:16:20 This candy is delicious, by the way. I'm not even sure the flavor. It's wonderful. It's a wonderful tin thing. Oh, good. Oh, while we're talking about that and michael is looking up the thing to jog my terrible memory um i bought what is i guess a very tokyo disneyland item which is their chocolate rice candies or chocolate crunch they call it chocolate crunch candies and they all came individually wrapped i bought it in a little uh 35th anniversary bag zip it open and there are all these individually wrapped chocolate crunch things
Starting point is 01:16:52 and uh they were fine okay disappointing every all the lists were like get these oh i loved that yeah really fun little boats yeah they're yeah yeah that thing was great high tech looking bumper boats essentially yeah they don't bump into anything they just sort of to that thing. Yeah, really fun. Little boats. Yeah, that thing was great. Super high-tech looking bumper boats, essentially. Yeah, they don't bump into anything. They just sort of do a Wi-Fi control little dance in the water. And they spin you around. And they spin you around. It's very fun. I would do it at night if you can.
Starting point is 01:17:15 That's when we did it. Candy is amazing. It's really good. What is it? It's like kind of coffee-y and kind of butter-rummy. Is it like a melt-in-your-mouth thing or is it crunchy? No, it's more like a Werther's kind of texture. Is it like a melt in your mouth thing or is it crunchy? No, it's more like a Werther's kind of texture. Oh, okay. It is.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Yeah, it's like a higher quality Werther's. That's excellent. Yeah, these chocolate crunch things are like a Nestle bar, but like lighter and fluffier. This is not particularly, you know, I think from what I can tell, it's a very similar ride. What do you think of Indiana Jones? Oh, my God. Yeah. The tiny...
Starting point is 01:17:48 It's basically the same, but the tiny touches that dress it up more. You don't want to know the tiny touches, though, right? I've watched the video. Oh, you have? Oh, okay. Okay. So the temple is incredible. Much better because of them.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I like the intimacy of our queue, how small it is. But the temple... And the queue is very cool, how small it is. But the temple, we did it, by the way. And the queue is very cool, though. Oh, it's great. It's like a big cavern with skulls and skeletons everywhere. Yeah, we did single rider in Tokyo each time. So that's a good tip. You may as well just do that because it's very fast.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Barely anybody does it. And we kept getting put on cars at the same time anyway. Different cars, but. Yeah, I mean mean it was very yeah very simple and that line is always very long so we did the three times okay um and immediately you're like oh it feels like the ride is new it feels like the track is brand new and you're like well why isn't ours feel like this track is brand new yeah and like it moves everything is smooth everything was smoother but like threw you around a little more, I felt like.
Starting point is 01:18:46 I think that's just, yeah, the smoothness of the ride. Who knows? Maybe there's some difference. Somebody was talking online, I read about the fact that like they light the one in Disneyland with more black lights. And I don't know if they just, I don't know what the other lights they use in Tokyo are,
Starting point is 01:19:01 but it's kind of a cooler, creepier lighting in tokyo honestly the only thing that i like more here about indiana jones is mara yeah there's a cool crystal skull yeah in that spot where mara is but other than that i like mara much more but the but that's it but in terms of like the the balance on on the scales yeah for florida indiana jones definitely better indiana jones crystal skull thing is inferior in some way uh it's just the skull when you come in and where mara usually is it's a tiny you're making a joke you're being funny i get it i see i see i'm sorry but that crystal skull predates the movie it does yeah it does
Starting point is 01:19:45 it is no mutt there's no mutt but then the big thing and I guess we're getting into spoilers already so if anyone turn this off is the fact that
Starting point is 01:19:54 and the thing we said on the Indiana Jones episode is that that last room or the second to last room really or third to last room whatever where the darts are happening
Starting point is 01:20:02 is lacking not as much here yeah skip that I do know this from a video the thing darts are happening. It's lacking. Not as much here. Yeah, skip that. I do know this from a video. The thing that happens in there rules. It's so cool. You guys know more than me because you went in person, but I'm like so excited to experience it. And you don't want to watch it, just describe it.
Starting point is 01:20:15 I didn't know either. I didn't watch it. Skip ahead if you don't. The bigger spoiler section will come soon because I have to leave for dinner. Sure. Right. So the, and wine. Look at his lips again. leave for dinner sure right so the uh and wine uh uh the new joke is that scott's a wino this will stick to my uh infinite uh torment uh so uh instead of the dart room what do we got there
Starting point is 01:20:40 is there's still a dart but at the end of the dart room. The start of the dart room. It is? Yep. On the way to the dart room. On the way to the dart room. Okay. Your vehicle stops. I'm all turned around. Your vehicle stops before the dart room, which is in our Indiana Jones, just blank, nothing.
Starting point is 01:20:56 You just zoom through. You stop and there's a smallish Mara, a kind of head with a giant mouth that threatens you in Japanese. And then much like the effect. Crazy bellow. Yeah. I wouldn't begin to know the words. I won't do my typical, take my opportunity to do a bellow.
Starting point is 01:21:14 But that voice is like this insane high energy scream. And we didn't know. So to be going through a thing that you know so well and then having a whole new section or character or something appear was so cool. And it stops. And then it's the same effect as I think on the end of the Big Thunder refurb, where it's like, it shoots fire at you.
Starting point is 01:21:37 It shoots a fireball at you. Yeah. And you zoom through it. And I was genuinely frightened for a moment. I was like, ah. And then you go into the dart room and the dart room is the same setup, except there's some dimension to it. There's like heads.
Starting point is 01:21:51 There's three dimensional heads. It feels more like they're coming out of the wall instead of just these 2D skeletons. And then like every, all three times we went on, like the ball effect immediately works it was seamless the last time i just when i went into indiana jones like a week ago we waited there under indy for a while you're waiting for something to happen then all of a sudden oh then the lighting starts and the ball comes in it's cool but like all like for whatever reason the ride worked perfectly each time you get off indiana jones's animatronic is like fucked up more his like clothes are really ripped and he looks like beat up in like a way that the one out here doesn't because i was just
Starting point is 01:22:30 looking like i made a point to look at him and i'm like he looks fine and the california indiana jones so like he looks real messed up indiana jones is so good great in tokyo disney sea that's very exciting um yeah here let me let's do one more thing before I hit the road. Talk about this boat, the ship. Oh, the Roosevelt? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Well, I'll start by saying the only bit of weirdness we had with anyone in Japan was in the Teddy Roosevelt Lounge. That's a real bummer. So, yeah, there's the big steamship that's parked and it's not really like a ship, but it's made to look like it's a real ship, but it's in like the harbor of like old New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:14 And it's giant and they do like a Mickey review New York show out in front. And I was very excited because they have the Teddy Roosevelt Lounge, which is what we always saw, a theme bar we all are looking for. Yeah, you excited about it so excited about it and i liked it um i think i was very tired i was extra tired that day too and i think i was trying to and i feel like we didn't get up we weren't seated in the that's in a very cool part we
Starting point is 01:23:39 were like right in front of the bar and there wasn't a lot going on around us yeah um but the lounge itself there's is really i think much like we we could see the better part we're like oh we only were there we should have gone back again five days we would have been back to the teddy roosevelt lounge look just uh everybody you know like you all make millions of dollars um if you're in the middle class uh if you're in the lower class i just can't speak to you about it but yeah the warlocks and the eloy what the what the what the what the time machine the hg well what's the second one oh my god jace all right i haven't read
Starting point is 01:24:20 it i'm sorry okay i thought that was one everyone read in school i know more locks from hg wells i know more locks from x-men but what did you mean by saying more like more locks it's a metaphor for like fear yeah all right i got it and the e-law we gotta go what are we i can't speak to the proletariat but yeah 120 we're doing fine um so we were we were we were we did like a two drinks each and i they were they have such delicious sugary yeah drinks like you got that drink menu was so intense there were so many cocktails and what did you get that cool purple one yeah oh fuck what was it called i don't know what it's called do you have a picture of it somewhere um we'll post a picture of it um but like special like purple sugar or something like around the rim it was just it was amazing
Starting point is 01:25:06 yeah it was maybe like some kind of lavender syrup maybe there was something yeah it was something like that and great about it and but they also i felt like they don't put a lot of alcohol in the drinks that tokyo disney perfect well yeah i mean you would have been real bummed and and i'm sure you've experienced this before, but we were really being judged for how much we were drinking. that's what we think happened. You know how it is.
Starting point is 01:25:31 You know how it is. We had two, so basically what happened was there was some confusion and they brought the check after one round and we wanted, we just wanted another,
Starting point is 01:25:40 we wanted to have two other drinks and then we tried to flag someone and like, we had an app to write down in English what we want and show it in Japanese because not everybody speaks English. Okay. But a lot of people do. And most of the time when you're ordering food, if they don't, you just point to the menu. But since it's like we got a checker ready, it was sort of hard to convey.
Starting point is 01:26:00 No, we just we want more. So we found somebody like there was a whole confusion like another waitress we told we wanted another drink and then she ran to tell somebody else and then the other waitress came back and took it away and then there was like an like some there was an energy coming off of the guy who was in charge when he came back that seemed weird and angry like angry or like okay like here you go and then we we were like, did we do something? Are we not supposed to have more than one drink in here? It was so confusing.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Because we hadn't had any weirdness with anyone. Everyone is so nice and polite and helpful. Like if you're not from the country and for whatever reason, that was the one place where we were like, uh, what did we do wrong? So we like, we drank the drink and we're like, like quietlytoed out of there drinking it as fast as possible i guess we did something wrong channeling the gruff mannerisms of teddy roosevelt himself uh so we'll post the post the photos of the drinks and whatever all the photos from the trip um so i like if we sat in the other cooler area i think would have been better and just there was some confusion and we have to look up online if we like made some faux pas or something yeah I don't know
Starting point is 01:27:09 what maybe we did something really irritated but like in in their quiet respectful way right now it was just like this energy of we had done something I messed up in asking for another drink and they and and i i don't know i'm not sure i have no quaggan gins yeah i'm just choosing to think that was the word because i'm not containing it uh that is interesting because i think of japan uh of japanese culture as a drinking culture of like i mean you buy beer on the vending machine the japanese whiskeys are very good disney thing yeah i don't know yeah maybe there was just a rule like, oh, everyone gets, who knows? I'm not exactly sure. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's people drink.
Starting point is 01:27:51 It's not a big deal. So, yeah, I'm not sure. I had other cocktails around the resort, but no one was upset ever other than this one time. You were getting blared out otherwise. But Tokyo, for sure, Teddy Roosevelt Lounge is like, if we had Teddy Roosevelt, we would be there as much as we were at Carthay, I think. Really?
Starting point is 01:28:09 Yeah. Hey, that's nice. It's in league with that. Okay. Yeah, you got to do it theming-wise, and you got to do it. And I didn't see the full Mickey New York show. At this point, I mean, what do we even...
Starting point is 01:28:21 I'm just going to say some highlights of things because there's too much to even talk about. Yeah. I mean, I think I need to get out of things because there's too much to even talk about. Yeah. I mean, I think I need to get out of here. Oh, you want to do it now? Yeah. Okay. I, so, well, in that case, I survived the podcast.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Yes. Easily. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got off a little easier than the rest of y'all. So, hey, this is great. Spoil away. Yes. Listeners, beyond this threshold, there may be things that if you don't spoil for your trip,
Starting point is 01:28:51 then, yeah, you guys have at it. I won't hold you back. Spoil away. You better run. When you get to the door, run, because I'm going to immediately yell the Star Tours stuff. Oh, God. Okay, okay. I have 30 seconds to clear out of the room.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Here's what's great about Santa Pad. Let's talk about... Okay. Here's what we'll do. We'll have a 30-second Jimmy Dean sausage discussion with Jason as a buffer. As a buffer. And that will be the buffer and a buffer for the listeners as well. Guys, this is great.
Starting point is 01:29:18 I'm glad you had a good trip. I'm glad all of the issues got solved. Thank you. And remember to end the episode at some point. I'm going to sneak out of here. Without you here. Without you here. I have nothing to, you can't blame me at this point.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Here, I'll put the mic towards the ground so you can hear me walk away. Okay, bye guys. Start the sausage. All right, so Jason. All right, what questions you got all right so so do you think that like you ate those sausage uh like once a week or like five a week like how often were you eating the jimmy dean sausage yes excellent question um i think because they were microwavable and quick to make uh i would eat them a lot of weekdays so i don't think five but maybe three or
Starting point is 01:30:06 four maybe three or four wow and also that's too many it's too many you got the candy in your mouth right now which is funny too yeah this is the longest lasting hard candy i've ever had it is shrunk so little five stars so delightful yeah five stars uh on this candy um what okay uh i know i haven't talked about this uh but the other thing uh lunch i was a very weird lunch kid in elementary school like i didn't buy lunch at school until like 30 seconds is up though okay there was one year i took egg salad every day for a year oh wow and i gotta get to that later we'll get to that later all right we'll get to that at a different one um it's not as weird all right star tours line spoiler time uh there's an extra room when you wait in the queue which is themed and very cool but the big thing is we walk
Starting point is 01:30:57 around the corner in the star tours queue and there are three hitchhiking robots three hitchhiking droids yeah and we were like whoa wow like that like we were blown away that was so cool um as in haunted mansion mansion hitchhiking oh yeah sorry i think nerds that listen to this show they know what if it's the first time fair enough did know about i forgot about that but i had seen that i'll hit some highlights here country bears vacation jamboree holy shit so fucking funny i understand that it's the same show just some of it's in japanese as they used to do in disneyland they used to do the shows three different shows in disneyland which they don't do in florida right um but it's
Starting point is 01:31:35 the vacation jamboree they sing like garth brooks and they sing like on the road again and they're all in little fun outfits and like like scuba gear and bathing suits and it is we saw it twice we should have seen it more if we did the five days we would have seen it two more times i think the highlight for me is i wish they all could be california bears instead of girls the it was great the sun bonnet trio is singing california bears uh so good oh although there's the song with, and I don't remember all the bears names because you haven't quizzed me as often,
Starting point is 01:32:09 but he's like having an affair with like a squid. He had a summer fling with like a squid, I think. Yeah, that is sort of what the idea is, is that this bear is having a romance with a squid. Which bear was that? It's not Henry. Is it Wendell? I think it's Wendell.
Starting point is 01:32:27 It's the second one. The second box over from the end. Yeah. Whoever usually is there. Wendell is the one you thought you were. Yeah. Really? I don't see you as a that bear.
Starting point is 01:32:40 I'm liver lips? No. Okay. All right. Let's keep moving. It's not when it's not window i'll look it up i'll look at it so um well i guess tell me highlights let's go park by park so let's start with tokyo disneyland because i know disney sea so we get so we get to tokyo disneyland and their main street has like kind of a roof over the top of it and it's interesting and different and as we're walking down main street all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:33:06 streamers shoot out of this big like pop out of this like kind of place setting thing in the in the center of main street and children and adults run towards the streamers yeah and like this big like centerpiece and the big the theme of and the theme of Tokyo Disneyland starts like the 35th anniversary. Like that, that big over like a song theme that they play a lot now because of this 35th anniversary starts playing. And it truly felt like we walked into magic. Like it really felt like we walked into some amazing place.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Do you have that song up? You should play a bit of that song. This is your world, come play inside. This is the story that we'll write. These are your friends, they light the way. A different adventure, brand new day. They call that entrance to the park World Bazaar. It's not a main street there. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Yeah, World Bazaar. And it's covered, too. Yeah. It's a big awning. Yeah, a big iron awning so yeah so that was immediately that was such a cool way um to to enter um i'm trying to think others do you have questions you want me to well i think it i mean you got the man realizing how funny it is now that scott is like i can't believe we haven't gotten to Tokyo Disney stuff yet. But like, he doesn't want to hear any of this.
Starting point is 01:34:28 I know. True. It's okay. Interesting to me. I mean, you didn't ride it, but the train in Tokyo Disneyland only goes through. Right, because it can't be a full loop. It can't be a full loop. Another transit, Japanese transit thing.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Oh, that's a rule? Yes. Yeah, it's weird. If it's a full loop then it's a full loop i think you have to charge right they would have had to pay yeah yeah it's weird um so it hits up adventureland western land which they call frontier i'm just gonna go a little bit of crater country i'm just gonna go off stuff that i notice that i find interesting or cool i find it interesting that certain rides are the disneyland version certain rides are the disney world version
Starting point is 01:35:04 so pirates is the Disneyland version, but it's like a minute cut. So it's actually kind of, I don't know, kind of cool. Yeah, I didn't have a problem with that minute. You zoom a little through it. There's a blue bayou, which I didn't realize. So it's the same sort of intro vibe, which is cool. And then you do the drops.
Starting point is 01:35:21 And I was like, oh, that's cool. Disneyland version of Space Mountain. Great. And that's cool uh disneyland version of space mountain great the best the best one too yeah i hate that florida space mountain i refuse a little rocky i'll go on anytime my back um but haunted mansion florida version interesting but we went on with the nightmare before christmas overlay oh Oh. They do that there. Because they had already started Halloween stuff. So it was interesting seeing, and there were more,
Starting point is 01:35:51 there was like an extra couple Sally animatronics, or at least one. Which we were both like, as there should be. Well, sure. Yeah, Sally is hardly in. She's a huge part of the plot of Nightmare Before Christmas. They added like a static one to the graveyard out here,
Starting point is 01:36:07 but there's a moving Sally, a big Sally at the start of this one. So it was interesting seeing the Nightmare Before Christmas overlay on the Florida version, because you never see that. That's a nerdy thing to say, but I found that interesting.
Starting point is 01:36:18 That is very interesting. But it's very similar to the one in Disneyland. Looking at the map, I am amazed how much of Toontown they replicated. Yeah, and we barely spent any time there. Yeah, we did a quick walkthrough. But yes, a lot of it's similar. That's never our priority, though.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Sure. Right, yeah. So a lot of Toontown. Oh, that restaurant next to... Was that what you were going to say? We barely talked about food at all. Yeah, for one thing there the quality of all food in japan is so much better and i don't know if it's because like it's more like farm to table because there's just not as much ground to cover and they probably have uh stricter standards about like preservatives. And I don't know, but everything was better.
Starting point is 01:37:07 And I don't like, I have a big problem with seafood. I don't like it. I'm a big baby about trying new things. And still, but like everything I would eat was so much better. Yeah. And this is just tangentially, just food wise. Now we're talking food. All the packaging at Tokyo Disney, specific restaurant packaging for the food so we went in like the camp woodchuck area to eat in
Starting point is 01:37:32 disneyland and on like whatever like the burger as a rapper and it's got the junior woodchucks huey doomy and louie and it's cute little art wonderful and like duffy area and tokyo disney see as duffy specific and the trays, right? The trays too, yeah. Restaurants with trays. So like stuff like detail. Yeah, it wasn't all 35th anniversary stuff. Like it would be like blanket here in the States. Now here's a knock.
Starting point is 01:37:54 All of the drink sizes are smaller. Which I fully support. Which you were totally fine. But I was like a true disgusting American. Wanted your big old soda drinks. Griping about the fact that I couldn't get a big large iced tea or a big large soda. And it was everywhere in Japan. Because you want that caffeine kick.
Starting point is 01:38:15 No, Michael is not a caffeine person at all. He just likes a big drink and he likes to chew the ice. I like to chew the ice and I like business. I like keeping myself occupied. Like instead of smoking. Yes, it is. You have a big drink. Absolutely. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Oh yeah, you're right. I like having a big drink. I like just to do something especially if you're anxious or nervous. Having a lot of it means it lasts longer and then having more of it means there's more ice to chew. Yeah, whereas I'm just constantly
Starting point is 01:38:42 chewing the skin off my lips. For sure. Oh yeah, I do that. That's what's what i do so yeah we could not get so basically a medium was a large there as far as a drink so that's one of the only things i was complaining about but i was like damn right there should be smaller well sure of course too much sugar i could have gotten used to it with a few more weeks did you have any of the like like the sugary kind of boba drinks there or the popcorn i know like we had some popcorn on the map popcorn i was not blown away by the strength of the flavors because i got a like a chocolate one popcorn and i was like it's like it smelled so good yeah it smelled like buttery chocolate through the air pulled me to the little cart and then
Starting point is 01:39:26 i got it and it like kind of barely tasted like anything yeah it was a real shame um yeah i had some of it was not bad though it was just i think the smell probably built it up yes very high expectations because of that smell wafting through the air i found a picture of the purple drink from the i don't think i took one took one. I think you took it. I mean, look, it was so delicious. I wish I could remember what it was called. That is like made for you. Well, Lindsay got it.
Starting point is 01:39:50 It wasn't even mine. I got it twice because I think. No, maybe I took it. I had a nice little scoop of ice cream in a little cone. Perfectly cylindrical. Oh, my God. Everything is perfect in a creepy way my google history violet fizz oh violet fizz there you go it was so good um everything there
Starting point is 01:40:13 shape food shape wise i almost found it to a creepy degree is perfect like ice cream but even like we got first of all they have a lot of curry there which is cool we ate curry in agrabah and tokyo disney city we ate curry and frontier land that was always my favorite meal and like the curry was good but like everything looks perfect like it's like there's a uniform look to the meal itself and it must look exactly the same so they like even like everything is just i'm into that like curry and rice like oh yeah i wish that was a staple in america oh my gosh so great yeah we were eating watching the parade and frontier oh yeah wish that was a staple in america oh my gosh so great yeah we were eating watching the parade in frontierland yeah so there was just better food
Starting point is 01:40:50 in the park did you get the buns or the the mochi that looks like the little green aliens from toy story that's adorable no i got a guttama mochi though oh wonderful and it was pretty good um so the restaurant lindsey was referring to is a big highlighter the first day we were there next to splash mountain is grandma sarah's kitchen oh yeah and that was so good i mean the restaurant the food was good but the restaurant was good and it's like grandma sarah which like, what is she? She's the possum? She's an old possum that's like an animatronic on Splash Mountain. And it's a fully themed Splash Mountain restaurant. I did not know it existed.
Starting point is 01:41:33 We were running around in there. It's two floors. And it looks like Splash Mountain. The walls look like Splash Mountain. And it looks like Grandma Sarah lives there and like her husband, her old husband who's a farmer is on the wall here
Starting point is 01:41:49 on the bathroom. That's good because she's just standing with like little possums in the ride and I was always concerned she was a widow. No, no.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Here's me and her husband. Question finally answered. Oh, he's a working man. They've got a little statue there he's sleeping. Oh, not working too hard. Not too hard. But we were running around there like, oh my God, this is the greatest. finally answered oh he's a working man they've got a little statue there he's sleeping oh not working too hard not too hard um but we were running around there like oh my god there's so many levels and details uh yes and it's just fantastic also just like a slight side note i
Starting point is 01:42:16 think on the culture at large but everything was so much quieter in the food service area because people weren't like tossing things around and doing things like as quickly as possible everything is just done with so much more care so it's like a plate everything is lifted and moved with two hands and set on the plate and then carefully lifted and handed over everything is like done with two hands you hand over your card they take it with two hands they hand back your receipt and the card with two hands everything is just so deliberately done i'm sure i'm sure we did like we handed people things and it was offensive yeah and they have little trays and i think that's where you're supposed to set your card like you're not supposed to hand it off yeah i screwed i'm sure i think i did it like every time
Starting point is 01:43:00 like randy quaid from vacation um did you find it doesn't sound like you experienced much culture shock or friction or anything no i was very i really expected a culture shock there was one restaurant we went but when not in first of all if you're in disney it's everything is idiot english all these maps are just are english yeah so like but like one restaurant we went to we thought there was no english and we just had to point to a picture on the menu because no one spoke english then we realized there was an english part of the menu that we hadn't seen until we ordered but that was literally the only restaurant i could even remember which this was the one where we were walking down the
Starting point is 01:43:39 like kind of narrow area arrow uh excuse me area ways or pathways um alleyways is really what i was looking yeah there we go and i'm an idiot um and we went into that place with the ramen with the tomato soup oh yeah yeah we couldn't order we couldn't figure out how to order because there was no english so dumb and then we were just like pointed at one thing that had a picture but it was like the thing everyone was getting anyway right not a big not a big deal but then we realized there was english on another part of the menu so most even the smaller places obviously i think if you go outside of the city it's probably a little harder but like everything is so geared to america and so many people at least speak a little english did you have any um allergy issues i know
Starting point is 01:44:19 you i did avoid the baked goods because I am allergic to tree nuts. So, yeah. I just didn't want to deal with it on top of all the other things I was dealing with. Yeah. I feel like there's no way we actually can get into everything here, but we're just trying to go. Yeah. So, Disney Sea. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:44:41 We're not there yet. Pooh's Honey Hut. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's so good. That's what the word was always, that the no, no, no. We're not there yet. Pooh's Honey Hut. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. It's so good. That's what the word was always that Pooh, the Pooh ride there was so much better than the one here.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Trackless. Trackless ride system. And boy, is it better. It far exceeded my expectations. Yeah. Not that I knew a lot going in, but my expectations just of a a Disney dark ride type thing in general, just what I would expect to be in the park that is that same type of ride. Yeah, it felt like a game-changer-y kind of ride.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Not that it's so big or long, but it's just the system itself. Because you're on Wi-Fi and you're not on a track, and you basically come in in a row of three cars and it feels like all the cars are connected because the way they move so you load in and so it feels like any other ride gliding around it feels yeah but it feels like i think my initial thought was like okay you're in these three line like this these cars and they just kind of move in this formation but as soon as you're out of the loading area, all three cars split apart in a very exciting way. So like immediately you go, whoa, what is this?
Starting point is 01:45:49 Yeah. So instead of like following in a usual line, you split up and all of them turn and are next to each other now facing the same screen. Great. Yeah. And there's like a cool screen. Everything. Also, the line is so much. There's no queue out here at all for the poo ride.
Starting point is 01:46:03 It's just outdoors. But also no one goes on it ever. So it doesn't really need one. Well, but that's because it's not as good. No, I know. I go on it a lot because there usually is not a line. You go on the, but yeah, you go on, like there's a cool storybook outside where it looks like the people walking through the line are in the story if you're looking outside.
Starting point is 01:46:18 Yeah, we're like inside the pages. And then inside it's like Christopher Robin's room and like you walk into the store. Like the line is so cool and then the ride itself is just so it feels it feels so free it feels like there's different paths you can go on yeah you're just like whirling around and yeah it does it feels just like so open and smooth and it's it does feel like you're living in it more than a normal ride on a track because it's like it doesn't feel so linear. Yeah, you're exploring all through it instead of just moving at a steady pace through the rooms. And then you're getting into the Heffalump and Woozle room.
Starting point is 01:46:57 And I guess this is the last thing I'll say because we could talk about this forever. is that the Heffalump and Woozle Room is a big fun zooming in and out party between like four or five cars and then a car full of Heffalumps and Woozles. Yes. That is all of a sudden spinning around with you and the other two cars. In the same ride vehicle. It's on the ride too. It just pops in and out. What? Jason's making googly eyes.
Starting point is 01:47:22 Yes, I agree. We went, oh, look, there's a car of just the Heffalumps and Woozles. That's so great. Yeah, as if they were riding with us. Yeah, so like that one, really, we did it twice, and that one blew us away. Yeah, that was one where there was just like my eyes lit up, and there was a smile on my face the whole time. Yeah, that one was really awesome. All the rides they take better.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Like we went on Peter Pan, and I had been on peter pan six months ago or something and the track feels like there's a part in the track when you you come down and like full jerky it's jerky and you go oh and i go hopefully this is not going to fall apart not any of that the track was perfect wow yeah yeah everything is just really kept up so it feels newer even though it's it's not that new right any jason we were saying oh i was gonna say i showed you this earlier but on the map i have uh the monsters inc ride and go seek ride the description delighted me and it just says board a train and search for the funny monsters that's it wonderful yes that ride was a little underwhelming. Yeah, I heard people talked it up, but then when we,
Starting point is 01:48:27 and the animatronics are all very good, but it's a ride where you have like flashlights. It's like a Buzz Lightyear style thing, but there's no points. You don't score points, but you shine the flashlight and then like stuff happens. You're supposed to find the monsters
Starting point is 01:48:41 and when you shine the light on them, they like pop up and reveal themselves but it was like not that satisfying when it happened yeah it was not satisfying and it was like in a similar way where i was criticizing men in black which is a much slower i think more satisfying ride it felt like there wasn't even time to enjoy the animatronics while you're trying to figure out what to put your flashlight on that sounds to me like some of the harry potter like rfid wand effects where it's like the effect is cool but you see kids like licking the wrist like five times to like try and get it to work you know yeah i mean a little bit of that i mean at least
Starting point is 01:49:15 though that is just like one thing to focus on this is just you're too like yeah it was too task oriented yeah and again it's like too fat it was too fast to sort of enjoy it so but it was too task-oriented. Yeah, and again, it was too fast to sort of enjoy it. But it was not bad. It was not a bad ride. Space Mountain has the Spawn logo font for some reason. I'll post a picture of that. Oh, yeah. I don't know that it's exactly that, but it looks like that to me.
Starting point is 01:49:36 It's a very 90s-looking font. That hits me right in the gut. You got emotional. Right in the heart. Yeah, right in the heart. It's in your eye when I said Spawn. 90s comic character spawn. Tokyo Disney itself,
Starting point is 01:49:52 Disneyland itself is cool. The shows we went to see, Party Gra, Let's Party Gra. We were never, we never got there in time to get a good seat for anything. We needed to get there at 8 a.m. every day. But every show was very cool.
Starting point is 01:50:03 One of the weirdest things is that we, Let's.m. every day. But every show was very cool. One of the weirdest things is that we, let's party, Grah. Oh, yeah. Jose and Donald come out back sort of toward the back of the theater and they kind of clown around with people that are watching. Because we watch not inside the theater, but outside the theater. You can still see pretty well. Jose and Donald walk around. They kind of clown around.
Starting point is 01:50:20 They say, like, be quiet. Don't show, don't tell the people that are in the theater we're here. And I have video and pictures of this to prove it. Is that all of a sudden, Donald, I don't remember which order it went. Donald starts patting Jose's back down. And then he starts just patting him on the butt. Like fluffing up his little feather. Fluffing up his tail on his butt.
Starting point is 01:50:38 He really doesn't go on. He wants to make sure the butt looks good. And then Jose turns Donald around and starts doing the same thing. So just like fluffing each other's butts. So I. So I have pictures of fluffing each other's butts. So I have pictures of Jose and Donald fluffing each other's butts, which was very funny and weird. Jungle Cruise. Very good.
Starting point is 01:50:54 I'll say this. Jungle Cruise. Very good. I like it better than the one out in Disneyland. It's similar to the Florida one. Yeah. All right. I guess we go to DisneySea now because I feel like we're racing against the clock.
Starting point is 01:51:04 I mean, where to start? I mean, tell me what you terror terror big band beat oh big oh guys i'm sorry i'm like i feel frantic right now you are like talking well this is the problem like scott again scott was like when are we going to get to it and it's like well we want to like we're we need to rush through everything but it's all going to be a spoiler yeah right right and also the two days like going for two i mean god everything but it's all going to be a spoiler yeah right right and also the two days like going for two days i mean god bless you there's just so much stuff there's so much stuff we're talking about you need more than two days my goodness um so yeah so we get with him gone we can draw up the shirt someone suggested of scott is wrong again
Starting point is 01:51:40 uh yeah we'll do that we like scott we like scott uh we all take turns playing the villain and the fool and the hero of this podcast we all make fun of each other that's true uh so we got in tokyo disney sea and it is really your brain has to figure out what am i looking at yeah there's a big volcano in the distance and it's a giant massive like water massive body of water right there, which we come to learn, and I didn't even realize, there is a hotel when you walk in. Miracosta? Hotel Miracosta.
Starting point is 01:52:12 Yeah, I didn't know. I guess that slipped by me when I was reading about this stuff. It's expensive. It is expensive. But it is staying inside the park. And we didn't realize it until we were leaving, and everybody staying at the hotel does this cute thing where they turn their flashlights on their phones and they just wave at all the people leaving and so then everybody leaving pulls out their phones with their flashlights and waves back
Starting point is 01:52:34 at the people it was so cute jason's eyes again going wide so it was just this like sweet exchange of all these strangers saying like goodbye you're lucky you can get someone at the staying at the grand california on the balconies to like blast a blast a big plume from their jewels from their faiths let alone wave you know everyone does it because we were like wait because it was before we even realized that was the hotel we were like oh is that are those just people hanging what is up there and then we're like oh it's a hotel in an office oh it's a five-star hotel yeah those those especially the park view rooms oh my gosh i'm sure like incredible yeah a grand a night two grand and got it yeah at least yeah um so then yeah we went in there which we of course did because we have so much money
Starting point is 01:53:20 that's true well sure yeah that's how we can do four days uh so we were crazy to hear someone not me complaining about money on the podcast that was an experience i don't often have that's true you're usually the miser of the three yes yeah so we walked it's also like everything's forced perspective too so like when we were it was another day where i was still recuperating from having a little cold and i remember going how long is the walk gonna be to the volcano and it's not as long as you think it is but it is still a bit of a walk it's like i think california venture what do we say is like five acres bigger than california adventure or disneyland or something yeah it was it's like like i should look it up how it was like much bigger it was like at least a quarter bigger
Starting point is 01:54:05 yeah so like it is a lot of no it was like a third bigger closer to like an Epcot in size than like a California Adventure in size it sounds like California Adventure size is 72 acres and Tokyo Disney
Starting point is 01:54:21 size is 121. Okay, so I said four acres. Jesus, 50 acres. 50 acres. Yeah. Is more than California Adventure. And you can see Tokyo Bay.
Starting point is 01:54:32 There's a seawall. Oh, yeah. But the ocean is there. Yeah, it's right there. You can see the ocean. There's a fake ocean and then a real ocean. Yeah. It's great.
Starting point is 01:54:39 I mean, I love any sorts of nature, bodies of water, and especially the kinetic energy of like boats and trains and stuff in the parks. That is what to me is a thing that's really special. What a delightful statement. The kinetic energy of the boats and trains. It goes back to the devil in the white city. It was a big focus of the Chicago Ferris that would have a lot of movements and colors and lights and nature all together. Yeah, it's one of them. A lot of Imagineers talk about it.
Starting point is 01:55:09 And I'm sure I think Walt for sure talked about it, too, because having a lot of modes of transportation in parks and areas makes it feel alive. Yeah. Which is why Tomorrowland out here sucks, because the people mover's not running. If there was so much movement, it makes everything feel so much cooler and bustling. Side note, there is a biography of the environmental designer who planned the World's Fair Park. The Chicago one? Mm-hmm. The is it landscape architect?
Starting point is 01:55:39 Is that the term? Maybe that's what. Yeah. Yeah. Landscape architect. That guy seemed fascinating. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:42 And he wasn't even he was like the fifth main character of the book. Yep. So the first thing we did is we went to the 20,000 Leagues ride. Yeah. Okay. Well, we rushed to get our fast passes for Journey. And then to the center of the earth. Yep.
Starting point is 01:55:59 So you go to the like... This is the thing I have been sitting on since the 20,000 Leagues episode. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The ride system of the Tokyo 20,000 Leagues is so much more efficient. Oh, my gosh. It's so cool. There's no giant body of water to tend to. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:17 It's just bubbles and water in the screen. In the window, not the screen. It's so much smarter. It's brilliant. It's so much smarter it's brilliant more sustainable and it also made it actually feel more fun oh yeah and you can see more yeah because it's just you can get the effects of going underwater without the actual boringness of going underwater yeah right so yeah i mean that like the only like for yeah so you're it's basically like peter pan you're on the yeah i think right similar like you're hung from the ceiling yes the track is
Starting point is 01:56:51 above you yeah which is very yeah very smart um and like i got a little scared the lights went out in the first time there's like a like a like a electric eel shocks you um and you're not like strapped in either, which is fun. Yeah. It's not like you're getting bumped around a lot. Yeah. And everybody's, um,
Starting point is 01:57:10 like not facing each other. Everybody's facing out in a circle. Right. Yeah. Um, so yeah, so we did that. There's an octopus in there,
Starting point is 01:57:21 which is fun. And then like you get carried by fairies. They save you at the end. The only gripe I would have with that is i was like i wanted like a crazy giant monster at the end or something yeah there wasn't like a good big i don't know what the word i'm looking for is but like a big um well like the boulder at the end of indiana jones you want a big moment i guess set piece, that's good. Same with Journey. Well, look, let's just, now that you mentioned.
Starting point is 01:57:52 So Journey was the one, I didn't know anything about it. I do know there was some sort of monster. Do you read about it? Yeah, that one is interesting to me because it uses the test track, that ride system that's used on test track in Raider Springs Racers, is that right? Yes, yeah, yeah. Which is, I always think that is an interesting choice that ride system that's used on test track and Raider Springs racers. Is that right? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Yeah. Uh, which is, I always think that is an interesting choice cause that is so, uh, malfunction prone. Yeah. And it did.
Starting point is 01:58:13 It was. Yeah. It was when we, because we, the last thing we tried to do before we left was go on journey one more time. We had a fast pass for it and it broke down. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:58:24 And we sat waiting there for 50 we only had such a time crunch there to get to the airport and it was like we can wait for 10 minutes but when did not open that and i think we even were like we can wait for 10 minutes and so we waited for like 20 just hoping yeah i know it was very sad day you had to get to the airport yes right yeah is that easy and is it close the airport to tokyo bay uh the the resort the the resort is not close but the there's a we didn't take a train we took oh yeah we took a bus there's a bus they have a bus system and it's like 10 bucks and it's just a bus takes you right directly from the hotel and it's very simple that's cheaper than any ways to
Starting point is 01:59:03 get to the los angeles airport oh yeah absolutely so so yeah journey in the center of the earth it's got a bunch of cool jewels verne shit in the line the ride vehicle is what you're saying it's it's the chest track like cars but it looks like this cool steampunky like drill thing and it's very cool so we went on and i my expectations were too high way too high because you're going through like underground things and like there's some robots well i mean everything was amazing and yes yeah yeah just such a disappointing end yeah so yeah we're going through which i don't know the exact number of rooms but you go through like three or four rooms and it's a very cool vibe and it's i don't like maybe there's some music i think there's some music on it probably um and like
Starting point is 01:59:49 all the it feels like very much like that first part of big thunder where you're going through like oh these are cool caves and right the ambience is very cool and then all of a sudden there's a problem and you're like racing a little faster through it and then you zoom by this crazy awesome lava monster yeah and at that point i think we both felt oh now the ride really begins yeah this is going to be amazing because i expected like we're going to blow through rocks and we're going to be in a room now where it's lava everywhere like indiana jones like drawbridge or something and then basically right after you hit that monster, you shoot out into like a really fun drop. Oh yeah. And a fun little short drop into the open air.
Starting point is 02:00:32 And you can see that from when you're standing around in the mysterious Island area, you shoot back through some rocks and there's nothing really to see in there. And then you shoot your back out in the open air again. And the ride is over. Yeah. I expected it to be like,
Starting point is 02:00:46 Oh God, I just forgot what i was gonna compare it to but you think once you encounter the lava monster and you hit that first drop that then oh i guess i expected to be like space mountain after that where you you're climbing climbing climbing climbing climbing lava monster scares you and you zoom away on a longer experience yes that's a bunch of turns and drops and stuff yes i think that's absolutely what i expected just from like cool ride pacing and then expectations from how cool everything else is and theming and stuff so again it's a good ride it's just that was always what everyone was talking about like that's the crown jewel all right of tokyo disney sea and it was
Starting point is 02:01:25 like half of an amazing ride yeah exactly so it was like oh yeah because you're like oh man it's what what's crazy shit is gonna happen now and it's like no no nothing nothing no crazy shit yeah but there is a ride that you both have alluded to oh well hold on a second yeah oh okay i just wanted to say i thought that was such a good say it was a good job just unfortunately yeah no no no fault to you i just wanted to mention that these both of these two rides are in the mysterious island which might be the most impressive area to stand in because you're in the middle of like a volcano and mountains and they got like steam venting constantly i have like it seems
Starting point is 02:02:05 like there's a huge drill in the center of it yes and there's like nautilus i think there's a nautilus sort of parked down there and like you walk kind of down to 20 000 leagues all of that is so cool and just such a weird like where am i kind of a situation so now you segue well first i have to ask did you have the goyoza dog no no i'm sorry it's essentially a hot dog or a sausage in a i know i saw it i think we saw it yeah oh i will so so here i'll help set it up even more so then when you leave the crap what is that area called mysterious island then you walk out into a further area with... It's like, what's the first thing you see when you walk out of the Mysterious Island area?
Starting point is 02:02:50 Is it Ariel? Yeah. Is it the sea area? Yeah, yeah. There's an Ariel's area, basically, whatever you call it. It's, let's see, the official... Mermaid Lagoon is the official name. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:02 And it's kind of an indoor area and it's got a fun mermaid mermaid show that we saw outside it looks like king triton's castle yeah so what is that and then and then you keep going and you reach um what is that area called with the aladdin stuff agrabah the arabian coast arabian coast yeah um and so then that brings up what jason was segwaying into and now we're here finally yeah okay oh you want me to just go we were trying to let you do it again yeah but that's fine i'll do it okay so i didn't have the it's okay sorry bad storybook voice okay so we heard from our friend andrew because he had been he had a day in tokyo disney and he did like all the big stuff and he said you have to go on sinbad and i had no
Starting point is 02:03:45 like scott was saying i had no idea what sinbad was i didn't know that it was there i said okay we'll just go on sinbad well it's based on a stunt show in universal no it's not a sidekick kebab it is not there's no kebab kebab is the character sidekick oh yeah okay uh so so we went on sinbad and you get in a boat and there was no weight so much at this resort has just massive weight so many rides have massive weights not Sinbad it's a boat ride you get like right on immediately you feel like oh it's small world I can see there's like I can see the scale of all the animatronics is like everyone thinks small yeah and you're like okay like what I was like I basically got in the boat going like, it might be a good like small world ride or something.
Starting point is 02:04:28 But then this music swells. So yeah, immediately like you're going to the boat ride and there's music swelling and like you don't realize it right away. But like you go through like a normal town and like, hey, you're like Sinbad and he's got like this fun, cheery voice. Good luck Sinbad and everybody in the town is like out you're like sinbad and he's got like this fun cheery voice good luck
Starting point is 02:04:45 sinbad and everybody in the town is like out to see him off like people are dancing people are holding signs have a good voyage uh-huh and like it's a very like classic setup of i don't know disney movie-ish kind of a thing yeah the hero's journey begins right and i think it was scene two or three on the ride and i didn't i all i think what i said to you is i say i turn and i went i really like this in bed guy yeah and here's i think i do remember when it happened and here is for me the moment where i went okay and it was when you leave him you leave the little town and you are about to get out onto a rocky sea and it's like storming and you see Sinbad standing on his boat. Oh, yeah. And it's like clouds and ominous. And when you go through the little tunnel, it all of a sudden rains on you.
Starting point is 02:05:41 Yeah. rains on you like there's this like it kind of yeah it kind of like hits you with some rain as you go through and i was like well that was a surprise and then you see sinbad singing this song that plays yes plays through the rest of the ride and i think a little after that and so he's singing this exciting song about going on this journey and i think that's when you turned to me and you were like i really like sinbad and i meant him because i meant it personally at the time i didn't mean the ride i meant that this character sinbad after three scenes i had it like i felt a very strong connection to him i was like this guy feels like a friend of mine now or maybe it was just before he saves the birds yeah maybe yeah after the mermaids help him on so there's just like so so it's it very much is
Starting point is 02:06:26 a small world like ride sister you're on a boat and there's little tiny characters but all the robots are great all so basically the idea of the ride is and we'll do a full two hours on it is that you're going into scenes where sinbad has just done something great and saved something save somebody help somebody and you're sort of seeing the aftermath and he's like ha ha look what i just did i like and he's singing this wonderful little song um and like there's a scene with like a big genie and like or an ogre ogre and it's the best scene in the whole ride and he's playing a little good sinbad's playing this little guitar yeah the genie's playing a big bass like and
Starting point is 02:07:05 they're singing to each other from across the way and you're like yeah and the ogre is huge so the robot is fantastic really good animatronic yeah yes so like we go through the whole thing and i it was a situation like we felt like high from it and like we were trying to even sort out what was going on wide-eyed huge smile on my face the whole time like what is this this song is amazing so yeah so we were getting going down the stairs and you're like i think you said on the ride you're like what song is this who is this from another thing so you're googling it and you're like it's alan fucking mencken yeah yeah it's an original composition for that ride for the ride for the ride i had no origin For the ride. I had no clue. That didn't originate with the ride.
Starting point is 02:07:47 Right. I had no clue of this. Yep. So we're like, oh, I see now why that song is incredible. It's an Alan Menken song. Yeah, because immediately it felt like something you knew from childhood. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:58 And it's like, it's maybe the best song. I said maybe next to Party World, the best song he's ever written. It's called Compass of Your Heart. And you played it for, we were driving, when you were driving down to Disneyland, you're like, listen to this, because you bought the two disc, three disc soundtrack set for the 35th anniversary of Tokyo Disney. But it was not on there. It's not on there.
Starting point is 02:08:20 It's not? Not on there. I played it off of YouTube for you. You played it off of YouTube? Oh my God. I was hoping it would be on there. Yeah. And you were trying to find the 12 disc.
Starting point is 02:08:29 Yes. They didn't have it at the resort. They did not have. Yeah. We went to multiple gift shops for that. People tried so hard to help me when I showed them pictures of it and they were like, we don't know. So yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:38 So Sinbad. So we went on Sinbad three times. Yeah. We just didn't love the song. And it's mostly in Japanese, unlike a lot of the other songs in the park, except for the title of the song, which is Compass of Your Heart. Right. So he's like, whatever. And then Compass of Your Heart.
Starting point is 02:08:54 So we were singing the song. We didn't have it down until maybe the third ride, exactly what the melody was. But it is, I have an emotion, like a strong emotional reaction to it now. It really feels like now Sinbad was a Disney movie that I saw a ton in childhood. And when I hear it now, I get nostalgic for a time that didn't exist. Yeah, it is. If I hear it, I imagine I'm like a child being on the ride too. Like there's something extra odd that happens to me about
Starting point is 02:09:25 the ride and the music now alan menken magic where he just really hit it out of the park with this song and and again we'll do it on the full sim episode but this was a reformatted ride this ride this was a open with i don't know if it opened i can't remember when it opened but it opened as a much like there was no cool song it's a lot more um straight it's truer to the sinbad stories right where sinbad is not necessarily like the plucky hero right that we met on the ride that we fell in love it was a bearded that stole my heart um and and the sinbad stories are a lot darker. Like when we were on the ride, the mermaids are helping him because he's crashed his boat. Whereas obviously the traditional story is the mermaids lure you onto the rocks. Whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 02:10:15 They do, mermaids do what? They lure you onto rocks, Jason. Oh, that explains all those boats I've destroyed. Jason always falling for the siren song of yeah pack of mermaids but you love that kinetic energy of the boat and you can't help yourself i can't help i you know i gotta go on a boat you know the boat's running i'm going on it he loves treats and kinetic energy yes that's true um so yeah so we can talk about sinbad all day uh is incredible our favorite ride but we didn't fully address the fact that so it was much truer to the
Starting point is 02:10:46 original sinbad tales and then it was nobody liked it because it was dark and unpleasant yeah so originally like in the ride we saw sinbad is saving all of these birds from these like rogue um like marauders who were trying to steal these birds for their own greedy purposes. But Sinbad is setting the birds free and tying up the guys. But in the original stories, that's his crew doing that out of greed. And the ogre, instead of being locked up by the pirates, the ogre is just looking on laughing at the greed of these men. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:23 And. But Disney took care of it. They sanitized the whole thing. They made it so much more family friendly. They gave him a cute little tiger cub sidekick. Chandu. Chandu is great. They don't have any Sinbad plush.
Starting point is 02:11:37 They have Chandu, which is great. Yeah, popular. And then Chandu tails. We should have gotten him. Why didn't we get him? I don't know. I think we got the same money to get me the sun bonnet, the stuffed sun bonnet girls.
Starting point is 02:11:49 Oh, yeah. I bet they have. I got them for my sister. Oh, okay. Sorry. Sorry. I got you a tiny tin, though. That's fine.
Starting point is 02:11:57 They cheered up the whole story and then had Alan Menken write this song. That is truly... And it just blew us away. Top Alan Menken write this song. That is truly... And it just blew us away. Top five Menken, if not top three Menken. Like you've argued that it's the first. I argued it might be the best. And then you keep going, maybe Part of Your World is...
Starting point is 02:12:16 Part of Your World, probably best Menken, but... But I agree that it's definitely in the top five. It's top five Alan Menken songs, which is wild. And then there's like, look up Compass of Your Heart. Listen to the official Tokyo Disney version from the ride. Because we also love this singer. It's a Japanese singer of the song. And you can't really find him in anything else.
Starting point is 02:12:37 He's like a stage actor in Japan. But his voice is so like lush and beautiful. Yeah, amazing. So yeah, look yeah look all that there's also a clip of alan menken singing it at d23 in japan and there are people like weeping in the audience yeah the one woman we talked to uh who was working at the 20 000 leagues she was like what's your favorite ride here and we were like well she's like did she say she suggested sinbad right i think she said Sinbad. And we were like, yes, Sinbad.
Starting point is 02:13:06 She goes, oh, it's my favorite, too. Yeah, I can't remember the interaction quite. But there's never a wait for it, which was interesting. Yeah, never. So that was odd. And then, like, even though it's great not to have a wait, we were angry that there weren't more people on the Sinbad, right? Because we don't want people. Yeah, because they haven't, I feel like they don't, like, flip attractions as much.
Starting point is 02:13:24 No. But they did the, was it Storm Rider? That had changed by the time. Oh yeah, Nemo and Friends. Yeah. And that was a fun little overlay thing they did. It was like kids star tours. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:36 Oh, cute. So, okay, let's see. We can't get to every, there's plenty left. I mean, Tower of Terror, we haven't even touched. We have to do a little Tower. We're going to have to do a full Tower episode. I'll say this just overall before we get into, we'll end with Tower.
Starting point is 02:13:53 The Tokyo DisneySea, what makes it so amazing is that especially in like the New York area and stuff, like the Imagineers clearly were able to go wild with every whim they had. There are so many different billboards and posters for fake products from the 20s. And like Scrooge McDuck's, a department store that he owns. McDuck's. Yes.
Starting point is 02:14:16 McDuck's is the name of one of the gift shops. Like they wrote paragraphs on, like I think we were looking at like when we were eating i was eating like i don't know if it was uh what was it soup or something we were eating in the 1920s like area and they had all this like they had all this like ad dialogue on like the tray or something yeah yeah just like the amount of detail in places and it was funny yes it was funny post a picture of it i think i have it the amount just yeah it was a deli yeah it was a deli in new york thank you we've been recording for four hours and i've forgotten already what i'm talking about um but it's just so clear that they were able to get the budget for all of this ancillary
Starting point is 02:15:01 stuff yeah this stuff that i think they probably skimp out on all that, like a lot of times. Yeah. And we were talking about how it was like, oh man, these guys just got to go to town with jokes because everything's so detailed. Everything's so detailed.
Starting point is 02:15:13 And if you want to stop and read every billboard, it's they're funny. They're like funny, weird gags and jokes and stuff. And it's just so clear. Like when you're watching a movie and you're like, oh, this feels like a real auteur.
Starting point is 02:15:26 Like this director and writer. Yeah, their vision was executed. This is completely what they wanted to do. And I can feel their personality in it. It's like you can feel that when you're in this place. That's interesting. That sort of thing I feel like is what, whether it it's conscious or subconscious that is what makes people like really moves people yes people come back and feel like what a trip what a vacation
Starting point is 02:15:52 what an experience that was really something special yeah and i think tony baxter and other imagineers talk about it like it's stuff that even if you're not a nerd like we are, you can feel it if you don't even notice it. Yeah. You can feel detail and you can feel things like that and it makes you feel a certain way, but it's not a conscious thought necessarily. Yeah, you pick up on it regardless. But it's hard to quantify with metrics.
Starting point is 02:16:17 Oh, yeah, yeah. Corporate entities need a chart or a spreadsheet they can point to and say this will cause this ticker tape where their heart should be limited time market desserts limited time mugs that no one can buy the mugs but you can only buy two of the mugs yeah it's it's like it's probably corporate culture like it's hard to explain to like money people why you need money for 40 gag product billboards in the 1920s but as uh moneyed people ourselves we understand it the upper crust the upper crust of fans for sure the one percent um staying at your mid-range chain hotels
Starting point is 02:17:05 and you're going to possibly the most affordable Disney parks in the world due to government subsidies. Thanks to points you earned freezing your girlfriend's eggs because it was more affordable than having a child now. Sure. When Michael needs his toy budget for his toys as opposed to the child's toys my budget will be higher than the child's um so yeah i mean you can just feel it you can feel it there's so much detail so much detail i'll say if i have to knock tokyo disney
Starting point is 02:17:39 i will say they need more rides they need a they need better endings like there's not much catharsis to the story of their rides and some of them don't feel as long and i will say that's about tower of terror which i just realized there's a overlay of tower of terror that happens in january to march where the ride is twice as long that's what i'm talking about the normal ride is only three drops in tokyo disney sea yeah which again like very anticlimactic right so yeah they don't nail the climax right so i think they are a couple like if there was a real crazy i think they should add some sort of i mean they're adding they are injecting a billion two billion dollars frozen and something else
Starting point is 02:18:16 land there and i'm sure it'll be amazing however the queue is so good well for a terror tower yes yes so tower of terror it has a different narrative. It's not Twilight Zone. It's not Guardians of the Galaxy. It is a completely new narrative about a character named Harrison Hightower. And he is, of course, based on Imagineering legend Joe Rohde.
Starting point is 02:18:37 Getting there. I don't think officially or game. Not officially. I say it. He's body of work, I think. He's in his 60s. He's been working there forever. I'll say he's a legend. Oh, I think. He's in his 60s. He's been working there forever. I'll say he's a legend.
Starting point is 02:18:46 Oh, I just mean in terms of Disney hasn't done the ceremony with the plaque in the window. Oh, there's a literal ceremony where you are knighted? Disney legends, yeah. They put a plaque. Wow. I walked through the legends courtyard on the lot the other day. Oh, so you mean in very literal literal terms he's not yet been deemed yeah yeah he's not up there with like tony baxter and whoopi goldberg but i'll throw him in there
Starting point is 02:19:12 there's some oddballs in there they're all they all come from the range like edwin got in the same year tony baxter did yeah um it's like the rock and roll hall of fame where you never know yeah some people don't get in right away some people don't get early. Some people don't. It was very weird though that Walt insisted the first one of these be Lenny Riefenstahl my favorite director.
Starting point is 02:19:33 It is weird. I agree. It's weird. So Tower of Terror Harrison Hightower Hotel Hightower. Now I am forgotten again we're talking
Starting point is 02:19:43 detail. And this feels like roadie i will have him on the show and i have mostly want to talk to him about this yeah done so many other great things but there's so much detail in this so we waited we we went in twice once fast pass once not and we were walking we were waiting outside in the garden outside, and I noticed one thing right away. So his character is like a robber baron, and he's a monster, really. He goes into other cultures and steals all of their most prized artifacts. So yeah, there's paintings, these immaculate paintings of him stealing. So fucking funny.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Stealing like the, every single painting it is him and his manservant escaping from the native peoples of a culture yes and it's and like carrying off with a prized artifact of their culture so like uh for it would be something like one of the easter island heads or something yeah something right it's comparable and there's paint they're so the paintings are so amazing looking they're all like oil paintings right i don't know how they did it it's amazing um every single one like there's one where it's him and his manservant smelting smelting it's so good he has a man serving for smelting let's get the hashtag jason for smelting um but like escaping in a hot air balloon with smelting like i think like desperately trying to keep the artifact inside the balloon yeah there's just every time being chased and they're
Starting point is 02:21:19 so funny and that easter island head in a very tiny boat is so... One of them isn't the Easter Island head. It is. It is. You're right, yeah. Okay, well, sometimes my memory is bad and then I think I've invented something. Right. But there's like immaculate stained glass of him.
Starting point is 02:21:36 Yeah, it's so great. There's just great portraits of him inside. Everything is a monument to Harrison Hightower. There's no monster. They didn't have the context for the twilight like the twilight zone wasn't a big hit in japan or something that makes sense um so i also noticed in the line he has so many busty women's statues like busty like it'll be like um like mythical creatures like kind of sphinxes and stuff like that and they are all very well endowed it is very funny
Starting point is 02:22:06 and like he's just like paints this picture you know how horrible this i mean it's funny because of how you're reading against it yeah but it's also like real but it's elevated to the point yeah of him being real so funny yeah so like and of course he died like he gets his comeuppance in the ride because he's such a whole story character um so yeah because one of the one of the things he steals is a tiki god yeah a little tiki god from an african tribe he brings it back to the hotel and also what's great is that the whole narrative of the ride is that the new york uh like preservation society has deemed this hotel like a site since the accident like a historical thank you a historical site since the accident where high tower was killed okay so you're going back like you're going in a thing that's been preserved
Starting point is 02:22:55 as if you're going on tour right a tour of the of the tower oh that's such a good justification goddamn good i don't know if it's the best cue and the best narrative of all rides i think the paintings to me it might take it oh but then yeah because then it's awesome when you get inside the place yes it's amazing when you get it's why and i didn't mean to correct you there i was like it's amazing no yeah it's incredible yeah so um yeah you go through the line and then i tried to take a picture and someone yelled at me they're not supposed to do that i don't know why the line yeah so i think you only got a couple pictures maybe so then the pre-show which is usually the rod serling pre-show
Starting point is 02:23:35 is in a big big room and who the person says something in japanese and we're not sure yeah exactly his office and then there's a big like portrait of him and they kind of tell you his story through this portrait in like very reverent tones they were like oh the
Starting point is 02:23:50 the amazing Mr. Hightower like practically like our hero our wonderful like New York legend benefactor
Starting point is 02:23:59 like philanthropist kind of a vibe um and it's yeah it's very it's very funny and in the room
Starting point is 02:24:07 and very self aware like if you know that you know Joe Rohde as a person like travels the world to do research for these rides and he's certainly not a plunderer or anything no I mean that's what he's like yeah but it's funny to see the
Starting point is 02:24:24 polar opposite of him in the fictional character and lampooning him into a monster yeah i'm sure that was everyone was enjoying turning joe road who's like very much a man who like i want to go live with indigenous people and i want to learn about their culture and i've adopted their culture like turning him into just the biggest crazy horrible capitalist monster who like desecrates culture. It's very, it is. I mean,
Starting point is 02:24:48 I'm sure they all thought that was fun. And it's sort of like in the, the like employees on tower of terror, their bit is to be like very spooky and ominous if they're really committing to working the ride. And here it was like, they're committed to respecting Harrison. It's so funny. It's so great. And then the pre-show so there's the the tiki god is in the room they
Starting point is 02:25:10 show this is the god that um that you know was the here the night that harrison died or whatever and then the story god yeah the story is um that um so what happened the night that he was uh like killed is that he he was having what was it like a new year's eve party or something something like that and a and a bunch of people were there and he put his cigar out on the tiki god yes and the thing was it got angry and killed him in the elevator shaft trapped him in like another dimension of the elevator shaft yes so then the god comes to life in the pre-show threatens all of us and at that point after whatever it's evil smile appears the thing disappears it fully disappears it disappears we don't know how it happened we went up to it and we're like it's not there it must have been a projection i guess i think i gasped yes you did gasp this would be in like the study
Starting point is 02:26:10 this yeah but it's three times the size of the study like in the normal tower of terror they put on a recording of maybe harrison hightower or maybe a tour guide explaining like what happened that night and then harrison hightower's like ghost uh emerges from the painting and is like giving a warning about everything and that's when the tiki god wakes up it is so great and then you go into the next room is tiki god the right way to put it if it's from an african culture uh that's a good question or a talisman yeah i feel like i've read tiki though on websites so who knows they could all be wrong maybe it's not from an african culture then oh i don't know i think it we'll look into it or something yeah um so then the next in the loading
Starting point is 02:26:56 area every different elevator loading shaft is a different sort of collection of stuff he's got in the big area there's so many files there's so many files so many little drawers there's just a room where a full of like rugs one of the elevator shafts like you walk in it's just all these rugs he's taken and it's just and there's also little hints of of the god like his evil eyes appear in places and when you're in the loading zone and it's so big and immaculate and all the drawers have a bunch of jokes on them too of like things he's stolen and put into a drawer in this huge storage hangar it is unbelievable um and then the ride is really it's the exact same ride it's the
Starting point is 02:27:38 florida version it's not or it's excuse me the california version of tower of terror not the florida yeah so you don't like move forward through a room. And like you see like- Could you imagine if you did? Oh my God, it'd be great. I don't know why they didn't do it. I wish they had done that. It's crazy that that's the one-
Starting point is 02:27:52 Florida is definitely the superior. Oh, sure. The one disappointing thing about the ride is that it's the short version of Tower of Terror. So like you see the cool, like you see him putting the cigar out on the God and then you see him getting trapped and then you drop but not as many drops not as many drops not as intense i think the the main thing that jumped out at me was that when you drop there's not the then intense
Starting point is 02:28:17 like zoom back up zooming back up right it's just dropping and then you lift again and then dropping right lift again instead of because in in california it's almost like you you feel weightless and you can't tell which direction you're headed for a second even you don't or at least personally i don't know if i'm going down or up for a second yeah yeah it's very exciting so that was just the only letdown is like expecting more visceral thrills and not quite getting them obviously the fourth dimension room would be extra amazing like in florida but whatever just the so we're like oh that felt like a minute too short and then the other disappointing thing is that they do not have any harrison hightower dolls or toys there's a
Starting point is 02:29:02 tiny keychain that i don't think is designed particularly well that has him on it but i want we were like again high three items of the souvenirs but mostly you get out and it's all just yeah random park stuff yeah like they should have there should have been so much because like it uh california adventure there is so much Tower merch. Yeah. So, like, just a print of him, of, like, stealing the Stonehenge. Oh, God, that would have been great. Something like that. Yeah, prints of
Starting point is 02:29:34 the paintings. Maybe they have them somewhere else, but they did not have them in the gift shop, so we're like, ah, man, bummed about that. Like, bummed ride-specific merch. Can somebody do fan art of Harrison Hightower with Jason as Smelding yes
Starting point is 02:29:48 hell yeah that's a great idea we'll post the photo we want you to copy and change Smelding into Jason Smelding what a wonderful name and then the last thing I'll say about it is that Harrison Hightower a member of the Adventurers Club
Starting point is 02:30:03 a member of C a member of C Explurers Club. A member of C. A member of C. Oh, yeah, a member of C. Explorers and Adventurers, yeah. And just we were like, well, they've created his whole TV show or movie right here. Yeah. Amazing. He's the perfect villain.
Starting point is 02:30:16 Yeah. Like mid-20th century version of the Blacklist. Yes. With Harrison Hightower instead of red reddington and being immersed in that just makes it all the more disappointing that the adventurers club is gone yeah yeah so you don't have to tell me twice so yeah going in there mike has told me about a lot of it there's a there's a guest book in the lobby that has like rockefeller signed in and stuff wow that's great industrialists and obviously we've rushed through so much of this
Starting point is 02:30:46 but like barely scratched the surface on the details of just like this ride and other stuff um this is just a little thing i don't think it really came up and i don't think we talked about it but in terms of you know we talked about uh like the food stuff and and that there wasn't a lot of culture shock uh what did you guys do for your phones when you went? Because I have not traveled internationally since. Mike doesn't have to do anything. I have AT&T and you can turn on this function that is international traveling, basically.
Starting point is 02:31:20 And you pay $10 a day if you use it and you don't pay anything if you don't. But obviously I'm using tons of data every single time. So my phone bill was very expensive. But if you, if you just used wifi, cause I know you can buy like wireless, wireless routers,
Starting point is 02:31:38 you can clip on your belt and just connect to. I like that on this two and a half hour episode on air, you have decided to close it out asking us about cell phone. I was going to ask. We don't have to close it out with that. We'll think of something else. I mean, because then I was going to ask anything else to wrap up. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 02:31:58 But it hadn't come up, and there might be listeners who are thinking about traveling internationally. All right, I'm punchyy and I'm being an asshole. I'm sorry. No, it's fine. We've recorded an episode before that. We've been here a while. I know, I feel crazy.
Starting point is 02:32:10 And Lindsay and I are going to go down to Disneyland now. You are going down to Disneyland. And I really thought this was going to happen earlier, too. How long have we been talking? Two and a half hours. Okay. Well, I say that as though I'm fucking surprised. You guys talk about this non-stop you guys go through two
Starting point is 02:32:26 episodes of this and then we went out to dinner at Ikea which is a very funny thing to say now that I say it and you guys talked about Disney stuff the whole time then no that's not fair that is when Mike finally got me to sign up for one of these chase cards oh yes you also talked about that
Starting point is 02:32:42 chase reward trifecta chase points trifecta chase rewards trifecta uh trace chase points trifecta no no no just chase trifecta that did my little yeah this is your other one yeah mike loves comic books wrestling um disney and chase rewards and haunts yeah but we're old now so we we talk about like, oh, the comics aren't as good as they used to be. Well, that's true. All the writers we like are trying to make TV money
Starting point is 02:33:13 and movie money. Fair enough. Well, I mean, closing thoughts. Yeah, I've said mostly what I wanted to say. I had some bullet points in my head. So if you can afford it, certainly try to do three days. Certainly we can.
Starting point is 02:33:31 You dropped your monocle. Oh, I'm sorry. Your second monocle. And then when I went to pick it up, my top hat fell off my head. So I'm very... Sure. So yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:42 So I would say like three days, you could do it. You're just going gonna have to hustle yeah four days is a lot more comfortable yeah it really depends on how like if you are the type of person who wants to immerse themselves in the experience rather than go to an amusement park for rides if you want to do a day we had a jason walters did a day and i think he had to buy then two single day pass i we didn't actually ask think he had to buy then two single day passes. We didn't actually ask him.
Starting point is 02:34:07 He should have asked him about that. I think he just hit, he started very early, hit all the big rides that they don't have here. That's for sure a thing you can do. I guess it's a valid life choice. That was all I was going to say.
Starting point is 02:34:22 If you actually, yes. If you're there and you're like a nerd like us, three days at minimum. But four is a nice comfortable time to really absorb it and take it all in. But I would do five. But five would be great. Let the record show, you guys entered the turnstiles
Starting point is 02:34:36 in four days in a row. You had to get to the airport on that last day. Yes. Technically, you were there four days. So I won. I won. Me and Tony won won that's a good point jason does win yeah jason and tony win two best friends yep uh all right we look we're gonna
Starting point is 02:34:53 do a lot of single episodes about all these things we've we can't possibly get to all the details well to close it out personally i my final thoughts are I want five days of Disney. I want five days of Tokyo on its own. Oh, yeah, of course. And I want to go back as soon as possible. And I loved the country. Yeah, I know. Japan was awesome.
Starting point is 02:35:17 And you haven't even been to Osaka or like the million other neighborhoods in Tokyo. We sped through it. That was kind of the thing is we were having to speed through Tokyo like somebody would have to speed through the parks with three days. Yeah, no, Tokyo was great and so familiar. And I was nostalgic for it as I was there. Yeah, just thinking about not being there. Right, thinking about not being there. I was already sad.
Starting point is 02:35:43 And yeah, it's in the regular rotation hopefully if we can afford it uh pinkies up pinkies up it's in the rotation if we can afford to go next month like i'm having to cut that call uh can you wait that long so not next week well if i weren't unemployed i wouldn't have to wait that long lind is unemployed. So, yeah. So, it's great. Go to Tokyo if you can do it. And, yeah. Well, we're going to do all this stuff separately and waste a lot more of your time only focusing on very small details of all of this stuff we just talked about. Yep.
Starting point is 02:36:19 Jason? I will say it. I was going to say, please. Because he's gone. And I remembered that he said it about himself but not about you lindsay k tie yeah you survived podcast the ride yeah i did thank you thanks so much some plugs thank you for having me in my living room thank you for having us in your living room happy to it truly is never like something i'm annoyed by oh good and sorry if
Starting point is 02:36:42 i was too loud after howl at the moon no it's an experience you've never had before in the 10 years it's true i i decided i decided not to accompany that's all right right the correct fair enough yeah uh plug something plug whatever you want plug all the things uh i host a podcast actually i host two podcasts also on the Forever Dog Network. One is Teen Creeps. We review YA pulp fiction like Christopher Pike, Arl Stein, etc. And Public Domain Theater where we read aloud a story from the public domain because they're free. And interrupt and comment throughout kind of like Mystery Science Theater 3000 style.
Starting point is 02:37:25 And I write on the Cartoon Infinity Train, which will premiere on Cartoon Network in 2019. Sometimes. All very cool stuff. Check all of it out. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how to... Is there a Twitter for Infinity Train yet or no? Just Cartoon Network.
Starting point is 02:37:42 Follow Cartoon Network and they'll let you know. Or follow Lindsay or I'll retweet something. That's easy enough. train yet or no uh just cartoon network cartoon network and i'll let you know or follow follow lindsey or i'll retweet something that's easy enough um oh what's your name on twitter oh lindsey kata just l-i-n-d-s-a-y k-a-t-a-y k-a-t-a-i uh what was the thing i was gonna say i don't know oh if you want to watch the like pilot for Infinity Train, just go to YouTube and type Infinity Train and you can see the short that was made that got it greenlit. Very cool. Four million views.
Starting point is 02:38:13 Very popular. It's going to be the hottest show. There's already a Reddit thread. Oh, yeah. People figured out you were a writer and stuff. People are nerds. People are really paying attention and is it on uh is there like is it on tumblr like have people been drawing stuff or like
Starting point is 02:38:31 speculating oh yeah there's a ton of fan art there's people speculating about all the characters what's going to happen on the show what the train is uh i mean that's about a girl who finds herself on a mystical train with an endless number of cars and she has to figure out a way home. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. And she's voiced by Ashley Johnson. A lot of cool.
Starting point is 02:38:51 And Ernie Hudson is also a voice. It's very fun. Yeah. Check it out. Us, Podcast the Ride. Podcast the Ride at Gmail. At Gmail. Podcast the Ride on Instagram.
Starting point is 02:39:01 Instagram. Twitter. Twitter. All of it. Patreon.com slash podcast the ride. Yeah, November, we've had exciting. We've had a Disney Quest episode. We do three bonus episodes on the Patreon for five bucks.
Starting point is 02:39:14 We got Disney Quest. We have Club 33 and that very special episode about my favorite character in fiction, Botanicus, E.T.'s teacher from E.T. Adventure Ride. Mike's brand. Yeah. Oh, choose Botanicus et's teacher from the adventure right mike's brand uh yeah so choose botanicus or sinbad well if we're talking seriously like sophie's choice botanicus i've been with longer but i mean sinbad is probably a better more rich character if i'm not being unironic first of all this is cruel this is maybe the cruelest thing you've done to me is make me choose on this toward the end. So I'm very upset. I ask the hard questions.
Starting point is 02:39:50 Yeah. So I would actually like to see them both on one ride. I would like to see Botanicus in the queue of Sinbad telling you that you're about to go on an adventure and then Botanicus starts singing, Combos of your heart. You know what's really interesting about that? I bet they would both have things to teach each other.
Starting point is 02:40:12 Sinbad, though, seems like he knows everything, so he might not need that. He's really got it together. He's got it. I love that Sinbad guy. He's so fucking plucky.
Starting point is 02:40:20 He's a really great guy. He's so great. You're going to love him. Yeah, I can't wait. He's just got a real nice outlook on life. Yes. Great. All great. You're going to love him. Yeah, I can't wait. He's just got a real nice outlook on life. Yes.
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