Podcast: The Ride - Tomorrowland Bands with Jordan Morris
Episode Date: June 25, 2021Jordan Morris (Bubble, Jordan, Jesse, Go!) returns to the show as we discuss the bands that have played Tomorrowland and the Rolly Crump designed Tomorrowland Terrace stage. Sounds Dangerous! Episode... up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Forever.
Dog.
Warning, today's episode has a small yet lively horn section,
sad and bad future food,
smash mouth guy voice,
and the long-awaited debut of a new running joke
involving Jason Sheridan and a blue shirt.
Yes, all that plus,
Jordan Morris returns to talk Tomorrowland bands
on today's podcast, The Ride, the theme park podcast hosted by three guys who love rock concerts as long as the set list is approved by 15 Disney lawyers.
My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan.
Yeah, you know, I just want everything on brand. I want it to be in the right cue zone, the right quadrants.
Yeah.
You want it to appeal to all demographics.
That's right.
Yes.
Nothing too bawdy.
Nothing too bawdy.
Scott Garner here.
Yeah, yeah.
How do you feel about that?
You know, it's called rock and roll, not rock and raunch.
So I don't want any raunchy materials.
It can be a tad edgy.
Maybe I'll allow some, some you know a journey or a
bon jovi right what have you what they're they'll have long hair and the image is edgy but the music
mostly is squeaky clean yeah i want to make sure like bob chapek or josh demarro has looked over
the songs that i'll be hearing if i go to a theme park or a concert, so I know that it's safe. Yeah, and neither of them have too wild of hair.
No.
You couldn't trust an executive with long hair, I don't think, so you know they're not
getting too must, too rowdy.
You know what I'll say, though, real quick, and this, you know, we're doing a rockin'
topic today, of course, but I was looking through this, all the research, and I was
seeing, of course, my beloved Mad Tea Party, which was a big rock and roll music extravaganza with i call that right
i actually would not call that rock and roll what do you mean they would play prince they would play
blink 182 some of the rockin songs that i know so wait i thought it was more like rave-ish maybe i
didn't know that we need to do this episode
obviously you're showing yeah you're showing now that you actually literally finger wagging now
you did not experience the actual mad tea party trappings it has the visual elements of like
it was an electric daisy carnival but in reality just has electricity and maybe a few days well
jason you're you're nope you see jason you're not correct either there's so many points the most aggressive point okay so for the listeners who don't know the mad tea party was
something that they had over in the dead zone of california adventure by the monsters inc ride
and they would have people dressed up as like alice in wonderland characters either playing
in a band where they would play rock and roll music or dj white rabbit would as scott's saying
come out and do a very like you know al Alice in Wonderland down the rabbit hole rave.
So they would do that.
You said that phrase as if it's natural.
You know, it's a real Alice in Wonderland.
You know, Tweedledee, Tweedledum.
You know, really, like, you know, just groovy stuff.
They had two large men playing Tweedledee and Tweedledum who would walk around as well.
And they would talk and they would do banter with people.
So I've probably
seen parts of at least 10
of these Mad Tea Party shows.
By the way, I forgot where I'm... You went that many times?
I think so.
By the way, I forgot why I even started talking about this.
I know, we're talking about rock and music.
We're talking about rock and roll, yes.
There's always just waiting. Any chance
or any remotely related chance. There's already so much at the Tomorrowland. Rock and roll. Yes. Always just waiting. Any chance. Ready to remotely related.
I remember my train of thought.
There's already so much at the Tomorrowland Terrace and all the bands and the design and
the up and down stage.
I think where I was going with it was that they play Prince songs in the park.
So I am impressed that sometimes they get away with a slightly bawdier material.
I mean, it was let's go crazy, you know, and then kiss.
They were not only i've heard i heard
uh the i heard the white rabbit uh do a cover of darlin nikki where actually they shouted he
shouted masturbated louder than it is in the song and like kept adding it to other lyrics where it
didn't belong so they'll get a real body wow interesting i would i would you know i love
prince i'm a huge Prince fan, but I would
appreciate it if they would change those lyrics
to make them a little more kid-friendly.
Mitter in a hotel lobby
quietly perusing
a magazine.
Gingerly turning the pages
on a magazine.
Marveling at the contents of a magazine.
Right, of a clean highlights magazine
with leaving it for another guest to enjoy chuckling at the goofus and gallant cartoon
wholesome gal yeah borowitz has done it again
so we should at this point check in on the bodiness
Preferences of our guests
Joining us in person from Jordan Jesse Go
And the co-writer of the upcoming graphic novel
Bubble, it's Jordan Morris
Hi, hi everybody
I'm here to rock and roll in kind of a hard
PG kind of way
No references to smoking
No references to drinking Right, yeah, references to drinking right yeah spending the night together
spending the night because things can happen when you do that no yeah exactly yeah yeah uh spending
the evening together and then going to your separate homes that's what i'm that's what i'm
here to do sure everyone's landed safely right you don't want to interrupt each other's prayers
right or your magazine time. Or your magazine time.
Because there's a new Andy Borowitz.
Right.
I have to sit in my hotel lobby and thumb through U.S. News and World Report before bed.
Finishing the crossword in a magazine. Or I might get too horny.
And hey, I've been to the Mad Tea Party.
Just a little tip if you're a newbie.
The scones are strong, so just take half.
Just do half.
See how you feel.
Yeah.
It won't hit you right away, so just don't.
Alice in Wonderland is a cautionary tale in general.
She takes too much.
She grows really big.
She shrinks really small.
You don't want that to happen to you.
Yeah, know your limits.
That's my message here today, kids.
Know your tolerance levels. Very thanks for the morning uh um i yeah hey thank you for being here and for bringing us this this area this musical area and it's very specific
area which i think we're i mean you know we can go a thousand directions we can mostly just keep
talking about the med tea party sure if you wish all right and that's that'll be the plan
but like so we're mainly talking about like bands that play at tomorrowland and not just tomorrow like there's bands that play
all over disneyland that's kind of the main spot uh a sort of a you know a coachella if you will
a celebration of the many bands that have played at disneyland regularly over the years um and you
you must bring this to us from experience.
You,
you grew up down there.
Like,
would you go to Disneyland for musical purposes specifically or accidentally?
Yeah.
I mean,
I think the thing that got me thinking about this,
so I grew up in,
in Orange County in the,
like in the nineties.
So like,
obviously like I was there for like the height of scott i was there for
you know your save ferris's and your real big fishes and your less than jakes and your mighty
mighty boss tones and like and that was like that was like my shit that was like incredibly my shit
and uh yeah just like it was you know it was punk rock with training wheels it was, you know, it was punk rock with training wheels.
It was like very, you know, some kind of generally anti-authoritarian lyrics, but nothing specific.
Just, you know, that's I can think what I liked about it.
Not an instruction manual of how to do some kind of specific overthrow.
No.
Yeah.
Just like, you know, question authority, but also, you know question authority but also you know wear a
bowling shirt with someone else's name on it i had a chain wall i had i could i could i could
encompass this all by saying i had a chain wall some checkered vans i did have some around yeah
and you had to go to the vans outlet to get them that's okay they were a specialty item back in
back now they have them at downtown i walked by them at downtown disney a whole rack
of them at downtown disney um but i so but you know so like by the time i graduated high school
in 2000 like like that stuff was just a punch line just a fucking punch line everybody hated it
new metal was here you know uh the the unimpeachable new metal was here that something
no one can make fun of it's so edgy why would you even dare to attempt fate right exactly get
curb stomped by west borland right yes yeah oh if you if you even had a horn section you were
in danger of getting curb stomped by west borland that's not
cool not like at that point what was cool was a dj and a small person hype man yes and uh and
bikini american flag bikini wearing women right yeah that was the new cool but i so you know like
it was always like a little bit embarrassing to say that like you were a ska kid but something
that i kind of got wind of after i graduated was that all of the ska kids had migrated to disneyland
like that's you know any holdouts anybody who wasn't too embarrassed to say that they liked it
had migrated to disneyland to watch a band called the suburban legends yes who uh like i think formed like you know way way past when you would think a ska
band would like late 90s and they kind of like they planted their flag in disneyland and they
like played at the tomorrowland terrace and they did like in in their set they had disney covers
so they would do i just can't wait to be king they would do colors of the wind they would do uh the gummy bears theme song the ducktales theme i saw and you know and and
sometimes like there's those songs that you don't know or covers because the artist just makes them
iconic i mean sinead o'connor's uh nothing compares to you barritner of course originally
a prince song but we no one knows it as a prince song anymore it's a junaid o'connor song just like ducktales is now a suburban legend song wasn't that a cartoon
theme song no i thought it was yeah uh cartoon i think i spent a good amount of the first couple
semesters of college trading wacky cover songs with people. I feel like that was a big thing. Cartoon theme songs, Ska covers.
Dynamite Hack, Boys in the Hood.
Dynamite Hack, Boys in the Hood, sure.
If that was the number one song in Napster history,
I wouldn't be surprised.
At least Kazaa history.
Do I know anything else about Dynamite Hack?
Absolutely not.
No.
Is it Me First and the Gimme Gimmes?
Did they do covers?
Oh yeah.
So the me first in the gimme gimme's.
Like the swing covers?
They were the like skate punk,
uh,
uh,
super group who does.
So they will do like,
um,
gosh,
the one I listened to the most because I was also,
you'll be shocked to know in the drama club.
Sky and drama.
Yes,
I know.
I'm the only one. I'm the only guy to be into these two things
uh uh so yeah so me first thing give me gimme's do like they started with oldies but they had a
cover of show they had a show tunes album so it's like fat mike from no effects it's uh spike from
swing and utters uh it's one of the guys from lag wagon do any of these names
mean anything to you guys not the last little bit no not the last two yeah lag wagon uh yeah
anyway so it's like a it is a skate punk fat records super group that does covers got it and
i have i i saw them two years ago anyway okay we have show tunes you said uh yeah they'll do like
they do like themed albums.
There's a show tunes album.
There's an oldies album.
There's a country album.
I see.
Yeah, so they like take a little theme
and, you know, kind of skate punk them up.
Sure.
Pulling their genre.
Sure, sure, sure.
That's fun.
I really should have gone outside more, though,
than just sitting on the campus land,
like just sitting on my tunes.
You could have heard these covers live
yeah it's just the nastiest college rental houses in upstate new york or central new york
i am curious though if you guys like were part of like hometown music scenes did you guys have like
local bands and venues that you went to or was that just not part of well i was i was in the local music scene
oh my gosh with my band second level of course wow who played the same one i don't think we
were on the same show but played the same venue fallout boy did hey that's that's a feather in
your cap like they were there on friday and you guys were there on saturday forget and i met pete
once like a few years ago and i brought up because we're both from the same place, around the same place.
And he was like, oh yeah, cool.
Okay.
By the way, that wasn't even saying like, oh, he was so rude.
He wasn't.
It was just like, yeah, people, a lot of people are from there.
Better than silence.
Better than turning and walking away.
Yeah.
That's a good point.
He could have just like closed his eyes and passed out too.
So how would you describe the music of second level
well it was varied i would say wow it was very there was some i would say red hot chili pepper
in uh influenced music okay i would say there was some like uh sky influenced music. What else? Green Day inspired,
Offspring inspired.
This was a band I came into, by the way.
Their lead singer had quit.
And I said, you know what I should do?
I should sing in the band.
And I'm not a great singer,
but I decided I wanted to do it.
And then their old lead singer came back,
so we were both in the band.
Whoa.
So many of the great bands uh have multiple
singers it was uh level among them of course uh and probably you know our the song our friends
might remember the most is a song called rock the house oh did it well we got into the school
variety show with rock the house uh we beat out another band that was much more like a polished Dave Matthews influenced,
probably much better musicians.
And they were furious at us.
Oh, but you guys had like, you guys had like the passion, you know, maybe we don't have
the chops that these guys do, but we had fucking our balls.
That's punk.
That's absurd.
Thank you.
It's not about the skills.
I didn't feel comfortable around any of that.
Like the different,
like the band kids into Dave Matthews.
I did not feel at home there.
I did not feel at home in the mall punk,
like,
uh,
the scene.
Yeah.
I had like one or two friends and we,
we, they knew a lot more about music than me
and i just remember everyone discovering interpool but not seemingly not my bloody valentine but
discovering interpool first it's interpol interpol yeah interpol excuse me that's a regional
pronunciation it's where you're from some people say Interpol so yeah
I mean I've discussed my
journey from They Might Be Giants to Ben
Foltz 5 to
other stuff to the Strokes and the White Stripes
hitting very big when I was like in the middle
of high school so you're being in the music scene means
listening to music yeah he's talking about like hanging
out oh yeah so that's as far as I
got I like the idea of hanging out
and listening to music really didn't hit
into going to shows.
You were like,
let's go to shows.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Your club was the CD player.
Yes.
Yeah.
In college,
the club of the mind,
the hottest club in town.
Anybody can get in.
In the summers after college,
I would go into Philadelphia a lot.
Like they would do free concerts on the pier,
uh,
by South street.
And I saw,
uh,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah. Uh, on their first, like,
and they put out their first album.
And Phantom Planet.
Okay.
Everyone was, like, lost their minds when they played California.
Jason Schwartzman in the band, right?
That's right.
Jason Schwartzman was still in the band.
They put out that really shitty, strokesy kind of album later,
and everyone kind of bailed at that point.
The band, you know the band The Academy
I don't know if they're a band The Academy is
Do you remember that band?
Yeah this is like this is some like punk adjacent
Stuff that's like a little bit after my
Time so this is maybe something
That I would call screamo
But people would say that's not right
It's post hardcore it's something like that
Yeah yes I get what this's something like that. Yeah.
Yes, I get what this kind of thing is. Yeah, I went to high school with a guy in that band, too, as well.
Oh, nice.
Okay.
Feather in your cap.
Seriously.
He probably says he went to high school with you.
I think that's often, yes.
That's often what he says.
One of those podcasts are on, guys.
Yeah, the theme park podcast.
So, yeah.
So, I have kind of been thinking about that time in my life because
there's this narrative that i'm not sure why it's here but it is here where people are saying
ska is back i don't know why they're saying this it's unclear but they're saying it so i've been
kind of like thinking about that time in my life and when i was thinking about coming on this show
i'm like oh yeah there was a was a Disneyland ska band for a while.
So it was a fun excuse.
And I,
cause I kind of knew about them,
but had never been,
it was a fun excuse to like go down the rabbit hole on who these dudes were
and like why they were popular.
Oh sure.
So you didn't really,
you didn't really go see them,
but you were aware that this was like a,
one of like,
as this,
you felt like the scene and the genre was losing steam.
Right.
It was gaining steam within this particular Disneyland.
Yeah, like that's kind of where it thrived, you know?
And it's like, it's a funny journey for Ska.
Like it started out, you know, credible.
It was like, oh, it's this Jamaican dance music.
And then in the 80s, it was this like, you know,
British working class music that like, you know,
espoused Rachel unity.
And now it's like, you know, British working class music that like, you know, espoused Rachel unity. And now it's like,
you know, 15 years later, Oh, some goofballs play Disney covers at Disneyland and, uh, new way to play Hakuna Matata. Yeah, exactly. So yeah. Anyway, it's, it's, it's, it's funny that
that's kind of where it ended up and, uh, yeah, it was kind of like fun to, fun to dig into it.
Well, so what, what'd you think like good at dig into it. Well, so what did you think, getting into it?
Compared to what you grew up listening to, in terms of Ska legitimacy, a spectrum I would not know how to judge on whatsoever.
Yeah, I mean, it is funny how much they fell into like the stereotype like if you were to dick on ska
what you would be thinking of is is these guys like no one in the band has a hawaiian shirt but
they all are wearing spiritual hawaiian shirts sure sure sort of wearing currently wearing a
hawaiian shirt so this is a loving this is a loving uh a loving roast here.
Colorful, baggy, untucked.
Uh-huh, yeah.
Maybe you have added a tie to your Hawaiian shirt.
Perhaps you've added a tie.
Anyway, I think I can sum it up.
I was watching one of the videos of them playing Tomorrowland Terrace.
And as part of the stage banter, someone says court give yourself a round of applause and I'm like you know that's it that encompasses it right there
it's just like yeah it's who they're playing to it's what it is if you haven't been to Disneyland
if you don't know this specific uh venue which is sort of what we're focusing on um yeah it's
the Tomorrowland Terr terrace which it would
would also be called the name of a uh quick serve it like a like a counter restaurant at disneyland
yeah where which is your the main spot to get disappointing burgers i feel i have a note about
like the food i have always considered the food here a step up from dog food. Like, I give them a lot of room.
I give them a lot of rope about, like, the food quality at theme parks.
Sure.
But I feel like the most glowing review I've ever heard of Tomorrowland Terrace
has been, like, a version of, like, it almost seemed like food that someone cooked and served.
I have to be pretty desperate to eat at Tomorrowland Terrace.
I have to.
I literally throw your arms in the air and go,
I don't know what we're going to do.
Okay, well.
But you're there for the music, man.
It's not about the...
I totally did not realize that the whole kit and caboodle
was considered Tomorrowland Terrace.
I thought it was just the counter service window,
which I looked.
The current menu is actually the menu, I believe, from a restaurant called Harbor Gallery over in New Orleans Square because it's all fried fish and fried chicken.
So I think that little hut is closed and they have moved the menu here because the Tomorrowland Terrace menu has no identity.
Like for a while they served Star Wars food.
That was abysmal.
Like everyone's like, this sucks.
This is what Galaxy's edge is gonna be
this isn't your ronto wraps and your cool things your bantha stuff what they figured out is the
okay i have not been to galaxy's edge yet but the people who have been the ronto wrap always comes
up is that the gold standard for theme park food now is the ronto wrap the like certainly up there yeah for a quick thing to get for like a you know compared to other stuff reasonably
inexpensive thing to get what is it nine dollars i don't know uh yes i think so i think other than
like maybe corn dog people love corn dog i'm not such a corn dog person but most people seem to
like love those corn dogs i think you gotta like that it is um
something fast and easy and you can take it on the go and it's like not that adventurous so mom and
dad can have it but it also is kind of only at the theme park so you feel like you did a thing you
could only do there which is not true of a bad hamburger or something a better notion of something you can only get at disneyland
than this thing that defunct land and kevin purger did an episode about the hand witch you guys did
you see this little spike of hand which he got obsessed apparently a mega tribute to the hand
which was like a this was a michael eisner invention specifically apparently they're like
if a if a sandwich was a cone if an ice cream cone
right it was a savory cone but then it's you know it's 1986 so it's like it'll be full of like
shrimp salad like we were like chicken a la king baby i think like this whatever i'll take the
clams casino please maybe a hot dog for the little one and i'll take the lobster thermidor handwich
yeah that kind of weird weird mayo we um just like you know five kinds of bright white things
all at once um not dying to have a hand which i gotta say but well they have like similar in the
cozy cone the cozy cones in cars land they have got to say. Well, they have similar in the Cozy Cones in Cars Land.
They have a new cone thing where they put chili in a cone, and it's great.
Wow.
It's very good, yeah.
Yeah, sure, chili on the go.
That's always my complaint about chili is I have to sit still to eat it.
No, but now you have a bread cone, and you can sip.
Jog.
You can sit.
You can jog and eat chili.
Go on a roller coaster.
Yeah, sure.
Just sip eat chili. Go on a roller coaster. Yeah, sure. Sip, just sip the chili.
But so, yeah, sort of cruddy restaurant that overlooks this concert venue.
Yeah.
And the big thing about the concert venue is that you might get there at a certain hour of the day and you see no stage.
What do you mean a band will be here?
I can't fathom where they would be playing.
This is just a planter. I hear this is where the concert is, but I
don't think we were sold a bill of goods
here. Yeah. Seems to me step one
of a concert would be a stage
and microphones
and lights if you're feeling
festive. Right. And I see none of that.
But then as the concert began, the
music starts. You hear the music.
Maybe even a ladies and gentlemen, so-and-so,
and what you thought was a planter rises up out of the ground,
and that is the stage.
Now, they've had this at Disneyland since 67.
It was part of a Tomorrowland redo.
And this is a thing I really specifically remember.
My mom pointing out to me in an early Disneyland,
like not knowing it was coming, watching the rise up happen and me just stopping in my tracks.
What are you talking about?
This is crazy.
My mom being very excited to share.
Oh, yes.
The stage rises out of the ground.
So just that.
I don't think we've really said on the podcast.
There is a stage that rises out of the ground.
That is so cool.
It's dramatic.
Yeah.
It's really something.
It's great and in in the you know position of theme park history notable because it was originally a mid-century modern design designed by roly crump uh disney imagineer roly
crump uh recently in the news for discussing how he occasionally partook of alcohol and marijuana. Gas. When he was growing up.
Heavens.
He is 90.
I hope that content doesn't make its way into a song,
a bawdy song that everyone could hear.
Here's what it originally looks like.
And it is a beautiful piece of design.
That is so rad.
But over the years.
Bright orange mod.
Yeah.
And it's funny to me because, you know,
this might be just my perspective,
but I feel like mid-century modern design never goes out of style.
I'm sure...
It still feels futuristic.
Yeah.
I'm sure it went out of fashion.
But over the years, like, then, okay, they put a different topper on it for the 35th.
Well, the 35th logo is a perfect piece of art.
Yeah, it's a perfect logo.
I would never have thought it was the 35th logo.
It's Whistler's mother,
the birth of man,
and that one neon castle.
Yes.
Then in the late 90s,
starts to lose me,
starts to lose me.
What do you describe it?
It is the Disneyland Tomorrowland redo in the late 90s
is like they took the worst elements
of the Disneyland from Paris
and the worst elements
from the Disneyland redo
in Walt Disney World. Had world and um had them fight had them fight and then at the very
last minute we're like make it look like a textbook cover yeah britannica yeah yeah and then it became
club buzz and it's really lost me oh buzz buzz. Club Buzz looks like those neon blue and purple Pop-Tarts from the 90s.
Yes.
And the little bit of lip service that the one Club Buzz design element is
the House of the Future.
Don't spit in my mouth and call it a Sunday.
Okay?
Like, that's not enough.
You're saying there's a miniature version of the old Disneyland attraction
House of the Future.
Not great.
To illustrate that, you used the Judge Judy phrase.
Is that from Judge Judy?
I never knew where that phrase came from.
Things got wild at Club Buzz, though.
I remember 4 a.m.
We're doing blow with Slinky Dog.
Now, wait a minute.
Mr. Potato Head pulls a crack pipe out of his ass
and and a lot of these design elements kind of came and went oh the other big thing until the
late 90s i believe this was technically called the coca-cola tomorrowland terrace
at some point one of the more wholesome early sponsors that wasn't like manufacturing weapons.
Halliburton presents.
But yeah, I mean, the basic facets of this venue are really awesome.
And like similarly innovative, I feel like too, that just behind it,
there is a theater in the round that actually takes you around, the
carousel theater that delivers
you, the whole audience,
from different stages to different
stages, which they stopped using, obviously,
in the late 80s or that
component of it. But these two things go
hand-in-hand to me. The interesting
delivery mechanisms
for shows. We're going to deliver like like the interesting delivery mechanisms for shows we're gonna deliver
you to the show in a little circle a show is just gonna rise up out of the ground um and i mainly
am like why didn't more places do this like to me it's so much better than a curtain being pulled
like i all concerts should have should come after this, become that the whole thing rises up out of the ground.
So the Hollywood Bowl should come out of the ground.
Yeah.
Well, you know, Radio City Music Hall does that.
That's a thing they have.
I guess you have to be, like, the most major venue in the world to have all the hydraulics and everything necessary.
Red rocks should come out of the rocks.
Yeah.
I mean, who doesn't love the artists rising up out of the ground at come out of the rocks yeah i mean who doesn't love the the artists
rising up out of the ground at the top of the i mean that feels like a pretty you know that's your
that's your britney spears move that's your ninja turtles coming out of our shelves that's true oh
yeah sure yes have you all been has everyone been to a concert where the artist came out of the
ground maybe i haven't and i'm regretting that's a That's a good question. Have I? I know, look,
for a while,
I don't think he's doing it now.
Rey Mysterio would come out.
Rey Mysterio Jr.
would come out of the ground.
He would shoot up
out of the ground
at wrestling.
I don't know
if he's doing it anymore.
He's gotten older,
so I don't know.
Harder on the knees
maybe to land.
But I can't think of a,
I know,
yeah,
other than the turtles,
I don't know if anyone
came out.
I saw the turtles must have. It makes sense with the turtles story don't know if anyone came out i saw the turtles
must make sense with the turtles story-wise because they are they're coming from the sewers
right yeah there's an explanation there right sense i saw a recent uh uh performance well a
lot of the late night shows were having people doing like they were doing kind of interesting
like musical performances during the pandemic and they filmed they filmed Phoebe Bridgers doing a song, like, walking through a theater in L.A.
And they followed her all the way, like, backstage onto the platform that raises up out of the grass.
So you got to see from, like, over her shoulder coming up what that perspective was.
Oh, that's cool.
Oh, the camera followed her onto the platform?
Yeah.
That's neat.
Well, anyway, everyone should do it.
I don't care if Jackson Brown should do it.
The band Alabama should shoot up out of the ground.
Three Tenors.
Yeah.
Olivia Rodrigo.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, that would be awesome.
Yeah.
Everybody, just go for it.
Don't be lazy.
The LA Philharmonic.
The entire, yes.
But separate ones. Separate tubes. No, no, no. They each have their own platform Philharmonic. The entire, yes. But separate ones.
Separate tubes.
No, no, no.
They each have their own platform.
That's what I'm saying, yeah.
Yeah, and they should, like, get some air time,
like Ray Mysterio used to do.
Yeah, yeah, not just the air time.
With their instruments.
Yeah, yeah, raise them up.
Someone hits the cellist with a folding chair.
Yeah, yeah.
Because, you know, look, it's boring to see a Philharmonic.
How many over the course So for the
Course of this thing's life
For all the time
It's been
Rising and falling
How many times
Do you think
Disneyland has had
To cover up
A crushed keytar player
It's a good question
They've had accidents
Other weird accidents
But not here
I don't think
Not here
Well we don't
But we don't know
We don't know
I see what you're saying
This has just been so on the down low.
So, yeah.
Right.
If it was a singer, they might have to own up to it.
But if it's someone unimportant, like a bass player or a third horn player,
they'll just slide out of the mix.
Yeah, and if we are using the ska band as an example,
like you can take out a couple of horn players people wouldn't even know.
Like most of the band is still there.
They always, they bring extra.
I bet it's something cute
like the Beatles cover band.
Somebody got their
John Lennon wig caught
and the wig just went up.
The wig,
the wig got caught
or the Sergeant Pepper's
outfit like ripped
a little bit.
Too many dangles.
The 50s dads were right.
They should have cut their hair.
Exactly.
Their hair was too long.
It got,
it was a safety issue
more than anything.
That's right.
I feel like I have seen
a Beatles cover band on that stage. Oh, they, yes. I have photos of them if you'd like to see. Yeah, sure. long it got it's a safety issue more than anything that's right i feel like i have seen a beatles
cover band on that stage yes i i have photos of them if you'd like to see yeah sure do they look
like some guys but in a wig and a mustache it's my favorite thing is these beatles cover bands
and they're like good they sound good um hold on sorry i wasn't prepared to show you do you have
to clean up for disney i mean i guess you have like vague drug references yeah you see in
the sky with donuts i guess it's still a d still lsd here they are hard days run for your life
hard days night right here they are wow hey guys and the sergeant peppers uh why are you showing
us the photo though that's a picture of four guys basically what struck you about they're wearing
the outfits they're wearing the outfits i i love you about the photo? They're wearing the outfits.
They're wearing the outfits.
I love the Beatles.
I know a Beatles band is going to wear the outfit.
Was I going to be surprised by that?
Yeah, but it's funny.
Because look at them.
They're like in the costumes.
Yeah.
The wigs aren't that good.
All right, we'll do a poll.
Is this funny?
This is funny.
I think it's funny.
Jason, is it funny?
You could be honest.
I've seen a
what a beatles band looks like i haven't seen this the next is this the next is aladar cute
is it funny is i want to say a hard day's night run into another beatles cover band oh yeah a
different well they do hard day's night does all the different eras too so they're on the top they're
doing the they got the suits yeah yeah the let it be and then they got the let it be yeah yeah so
so they they're chameleons they could they could be any of them exactly wow they are chameleons
um again i feel like every beatles band has multiple costumes i'm not but you gotta think
there's beatles cover bands who like we only do the the pre uh uh it's like a sullivan era yeah yeah yeah
sure right right yeah before yeah before they got like trippier no nothing after norwegian wood
yeah we only do john and paul's like cocaine fucked up jams in 1976 that are unlistenable even though it's them yeah that's uh or the outtakes of on the one
anthology the like 15 second outtakes and stuff that's what they were somebody focused on the
drums knocked over yeah yeah ringo starts cursing covers of studio accidents they all take a minute
to masturbate in front of each other. Yes. Remember when that happened?
The news cycle. Ringo said he wasn't there.
Oh yeah, I do. That's kind of like back
in the news because Ringo's saying
he didn't do it. Ringo said he did not masturbate
with the rest of the Beatles. I forgot all this.
Was this like a stern revelation? When did we
discover? I don't, maybe?
I don't remember. I feel like Paul said it somewhere else.
I think Paul said. I feel like Paul was promoting that
song he made for Destiny, right?
Was it on that?
Hope for the future.
That's probably right.
I mean, he has a lot of different.
He has, of course, his children's book, Hey Grand Dude, that he could have been promoting.
I don't think he would have said that during that press.
But there's a lot.
You know, he's got a lot of things going on.
So I'm not sure.
But yes, anyway, he masturbated with John and I guess George. there's a lot you know he's got a lot of things going on so i'm not sure um but yes anyway you
masturbated with john and i guess george and any of the tribute bands will do you just gotta pay
him extra yeah ringo when ringo was saying this when this came out was he saying it in a way that
like hey you know i that wasn't me or i wasn't invited and i i'm a little sad about it i think
he was saying it was i think he was was, I mean, it'd be funny.
Maybe he was trying to like put up a brave, like a front of like,
no, I didn't want to be there.
Sure.
I'm glad I wasn't there.
I'm glad I wasn't there.
But like he was inside, he was a little bit upset.
Right.
He wanted to see John's log.
I mean, I wasn't busy.
I could have stopped by.
In the apartment just below.
I heard the splatters.
It's the only perk Pete Best has over me.
They invited him back years later.
Right, he was out of the band,
but he kept getting invited to the masturbation sessions.
Oh, really?
John, Paul? John Paul?
Yeah, I'm available.
Oh, not to be in the band again.
I'll get my instruments.
Swing by, get some magazines.
Swing by Hotel Lobby, pick up some magazines.
Bring your impressive load.
That was George, right?
Grosser than the show usually is
well yeah
after the warning
at the beginning
that's rock and roll baby
that's rock and roll
sunset strip
the whiskey
yes
viper room
my
go to for rock and roll
the things are a little tamer
at the Tomorrowland Terrace
yeah
they are
they don't do that
I think I remember
there being like a Devo style band there at the Tomorrowland Terrace. Yeah, they are. They don't do that sort of business. I think I remember there being like a Devo-style band there
at the height of my Disneyland attendance
where they all wore like silver jumpsuits
and a lot of keytars.
Yeah, yeah.
Sure, sure.
That makes sense.
I feel like, yeah, now these days you get a lot of like,
you know, they do Louie Louie or they do Queen
or sort of like, you you know the 10 most famous
rock songs um i i watched a concert i watched one that was like um a lot of like uh headset
microphone headset wearers uh all running around stage and like handing out tambourines
yeah the audience this was instant replay it was
instant replay okay yeah uh so they got the audience involved in the show which felt very
lazy to me you have a drummer you know they should be carrying the don't make these kids do it you
know it's it's on there to relax it's probably the same principle or the same uh strategy that
people when they're canvassing outside a grocery store use where they hand you a binder to keep you there.
Oh, right.
They hand you the tambourine so you can't leave
because you've got to give it back,
and they won't take it back.
So you get stuck to make sure to watch the concert.
I guess you could leave, but you'll ruin the show.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's maybe more of just an audience control thing.
Ending with, like, here's our fun Louie Louie cover,
and then as soon as it's over, like,
all right, we need him back
Alright number nine
I'm not seeing number nine
Did you sneak off
Did you sneak off
To Smash Mountain
Did anyone see him
Smash Mountain
Sounds good
Smash Mountain
Smash Mountain
That's a co-branding
Opportunity
You know how
Sometimes they'll put
Red Hot Chili Peppers
On Space Mountain
Wow
Smash Mountain
You're talking about
Oh so Smash Mountain Oh yes I thought that's Yeah so put Smash Wow, Smash Mountain. Oh, you're talking about, oh, so Smash Mouth?
Oh, yes.
I thought that's where,
yeah, so put Smash Mouth
on Splash Mountain.
It's not the NBC smash, Jason.
It's Smash Mouth.
Well, you know,
I'd love some Broadway show tunes.
Maybe just as a little bridge
between the Song of the South stuff
and Princess and the Frog,
just as a little bridge
while we're changing it over into Smash Mouth. Take all the robots and the frog just as a little bridge while we're changing it over
smash mouth take all the robots and like the actual elements of it i believe the log flume
and just have lights flashing and play yeah i can't get enough of you baby yeah i can't get
enough of you but he's like kind of doing english accent but not really he's kind of like might as
well be riding on a log yeah i think that's a good bridge to
really ease the super fans out of those people that are yeah yeah splash mountain favorite band
they saw it's sturgis in the middle of the pandemic oh remember when we all got covid
while listening to this yeah now i'm not mad that disneyland woke. They get it. They get it.
Have we heard from Disneyland is too woke guy since his old moment?
I don't think so.
Oh, you mean the one, that one article that everyone noticed?
The guy pushing for the death penalty in his day job as a district attorney.
Oh, yes.
He's like a murder lawyer, basically.
No, but don't worry if you go on Twitter or any other internet forum. district attorney yeah he's like a murder lawyer basically no but they
don't worry if you go on Twitter or any
other internet forum there's a hundreds
of dudes just like him and good so you
know they're out there you know we all
can agree that we love smash mother
yeah yeah hey now you're a log flume
get it going fans are if we if we get Or a log flume.
Get it going.
Fans are... If we get Twitter chatter going, it'll get better.
Listen, guys, I'm not writing the rest of this thing.
Hey, I hate to...
For Steve to do.
I hate to keep this bit going, but I have to just flex with my knowledge of the name
of the album.
They should put it in Tomorrowland because their album is called Astro Lounge.
Astro Lounge.
Right.
And they should change Pizza Port into Astro Lounge. They should put it in Tomorrowland because their album is called Astro Lounge. And they should change Pizza Port into Astro Lounge.
They should.
I would encourage them to not delay, but to act now on that idea.
Yes, so that's what I would like.
Might as well be ordering some fries.
French fries.
Yeah, don't change the menu on the Astro Lounge.
Yeah.
This is actually the current bands that play,
or hopefully will start playing again at Tomorrowland Terrace.
They should be pushing that to go order some fish.
Oh, right.
Doing some songs.
You mean like songs with fit?
Like they put the menu items in the like they
just slip in like you know something about the lobster roll like tomorrowland lobster roll uh-huh
that's yeah that's that's like what jimmy buffett does yeah absolutely he puts his products in there
yeah how long is there any precedent for like name bands playing that stage like not a cover band but
like a band you would pay to see otherwise
i found some information that the police played really this might have come up when we did our
patreon rockin moments episode i think that they may have because they have some story that involves
the stage rising up which implies well it must be there if or if it wasn't there i think the stage
has rising capabilities in or did at one point in time in Florida as well.
It does.
The Sunny Hill stage can rise.
Can rise.
There's a video of it on YouTube.
There's a robot lounge singer who is always, they used to have different bands in Disney World at this one restaurant.
And then they essentially replaced it all with one robotic lounge singer.
Wow.
Who was backed up by backup singers called the Space Angels. Okay. Who, who has, he was backed up by a backup singer. It's called the space angels.
Okay.
Who are,
uh,
invisible.
They,
they aren't there.
There are no robots of them.
Uh,
and that's,
but justified by the angel thing.
Um,
but yeah,
if they,
this is not an,
this is not a star Wars thing.
Like this is not,
they're not part of a IP,
right?
No,
it's an original.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Original from whole cloth thing that we love very much.
Sure.
But what were you saying about the police?
Yeah, there's no video of it, but I think the police put there.
There's also some confusion on documenting because then there was the Tomorrowland stage.
Yes, which opened the same year, also opened in 67.
Right.
It replaced the flying saucers and now it's where like space mountain stuff is
right and that the bigger acts played that stage yeah so like there's more documentation of like
you know the raspberries uh tony orlando i'm seeing here paul revere and the raider like
the spinners yeah like big stuff big big. They would have decent bands. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Sure.
I found a brochure.
Let me find this.
For Grad Night 84, which you can imagine aesthetically I'm super into, presented by K-Rock.
Nice. Look at that old K-Rock logo.
So fantastic.
Yeah.
Neon pink.
This brochure is so great.
They, because I was looking for proof that Sparks, one of my favorite bands currently
having a moment with the Edgar Wright documentary.
Uh, I'd heard that they played at Disneyland at some point and it was probably that stage.
Uh, but then I found this thing.
Sparks played all grad night dates in 84.
They were there every single night and that's multiple shows.
And they'd had pseudo hit as much as sparks ever had hits yeah sparks is that's a
that's like a weirder artier choice i mean maybe i don't know enough about sparks but you wouldn't
think that like a right a a disney grad night put on by a like mainstream radio station wouldn't
have maybe they would maybe i'm uh wouldn't have the artists wouldn't have the people who just put
up the album angst in my pants right that would be too that would be too much of a stretch for them um but
they'd also but that album has a song called mickey mouse so they may have they may have like
played into it was just the yeah the first thought someone had yeah like all right if they're willing
all right wait they aren't mean to mickey mouse in it all right the uh they're also though back
in the day they were not i don't think scrutinizing things is hard.
Cause we've talked,
we've talked about,
of course on the show.
And now of course there's a documentary about the space band.
Are you familiar with this Jordan?
I'm not.
No.
Um,
basically like Disney create,
like created their own star Wars rock band.
Okay.
Uh,
and they played the,
they played this other bigger stage.
They played the space okay the
tomorrowland stage became the space stage right which then became the magic eye theater where you
would see captain neo or honey i struck the audience so there's like you would see like a
guy that was an off-brand wookiee like shredding a bass basically right and a keyboard player whose
keyboard was built into like a cart that he would drive around and he
looks like a robot so it looks like part of his weird like on the move robot mechanism yeah it's
a very cool band i've like tomorrowland bands i feel like we have to talk about helix for a sec
but i don't have anything else to say about them because yeah this documentary that we helped
inspire um like actually they like covered so much more than we ever would have we started like oh that
sounds interesting as a wookiee band okay uh and then matt serrano does like the most amount of
work and research that could ever be done do you think you can get them to reunite for ptr con
well there's they're not all living which is a problem yeah um so but who's the remaining
they all like talked at least on a Zoom or something.
Okay.
Yeah.
We did a Zoom.
And Mike Post called us a bunch of dorks.
Yeah.
So that was something.
TV legend Mike Post called us.
TV legend Mike Post.
Wait, called us specifically?
Well, he's like, I never thought a bunch of dorks would rediscover this.
Yeah.
Wow.
And then in the documentary, it cuts to our logo and theme music right after that.
Oh, that's right.
Editing.
He didn't necessarily look at pictures of us.
Not exactly us.
But maybe he knew.
The magic of the movies.
It's like pull quote, you know, a bunch of dorks.
A bunch of dorks.
Like Sky who did the Law and Order sting.
Trillionaire who did the yeah the man who strung
together the two most
influential notes in
television richer than
Jeff Bezos so all that to
say is that they had they
played us they have one of
their signature helix
songs was called jail bait
so obviously people were
not hey hey licks was
that like talking about
like a Star Wars jail
Like
No
Was it
Prison on the Death Star
It was about the dog
And the key
Pirates of the Caribbean
Oh right
Yeah
You have to bait the dog
To get out of jail
Yeah that's true
The dog who just turned 18
Here's his document
See it's fine
Yeah
Yeah so They talk about how weird it is
in the documentary um but yeah they were not scrutinizing so like maybe just somebody was
like hip and was like oh sparks is cool but let me say on the scrutinizing front that then you go
like that seems like a big or like uh uh you know a cheap trick play like the huge lineup for grad
night 84 um but they were scrutinizing in another area because
then you go to it's it's really like in association with k-rock it's the greatest party around an
outrageous evening of music blah blah then the very next page dress code gentleman make sure
you're in a suit blazer and dress slacks and it is like really outrageous dress slacks not even just there's a dress code be
aware wow but like like a very cool design by the way i love this like big pink and purple stripes
yeah um but yeah this is page two of the come to the hottest teen party around but do make sure
you are dressed sensibly that's skirt and bouts ensemble for the ladies make sure your pants have pleats in them make sure they're starched
get a ruler out space those pleats out evenly let's hide those slutty ankles ladies
there's still one or two fine dining restaurants at disney world i don't know about disneyland
maybe in the hotels where there is a dress code but it's literally just like hey don't be a slob
maybe like change uh between the
park and coming here have a t-shirt that fits yeah basically yeah both sleeves please yeah yeah
um you can also you can tell this is specifically from grad night 84 because they feel the need in
the unacceptable attire area to mention bolo ties and windbreakers no no no no bolos ties good bolo ties no
oh what is this a rodeo that means like little jimmy dickens wouldn't have been allowed in yeah
this is an outrageous grad night not a square dance conrad hilton turned away at the door
could not see his granddaughter Paris
go to grad night.
Could not chaperone.
Disney just changed
a lot of the rules
about what people were allowed
to wear in the parks.
Are bolo ties now allowed?
Oh, yeah.
Right.
Cast members have tattoos
or wear bolo ties.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's what people wanted
for a long time.
Frontierland.
You'd have to think
in some places.
Yeah.
Who knows? I feel like we should say you know i i don't know if you've heard this but i had heard
over the years that like their disney land management it was very conflicted about tomorrow
land becoming like the teen right loiter hangout spot like the replacement like you you know rather than go to the mall maybe
you just go to disneyland on friday nights and saturday nights and just hang out there uh because
passes were still pretty cheap there were a lot of bands like uh uh you know a lot of people would
do this and then they were like oh the 50th anniversary is coming up and we want young
people coming and but we want more people who
spend money coming because they come and they don't buy anything or like they share one with
her fries so i i feel like i had always heard that they were kind of like oh god these teens
are might be more trouble than they're worth i definitely had a summer in high school that was my like disneyland hangout summer yeah i think yeah i think the passes were you know i i don't remember what
they cost but man maybe the maybe the reason why everyone had them was because they were cheaper
than they are now and uh yeah i mean we were just going like we were just going like dick around
uh yeah yeah because they i mean they stopped they had videopolis the nightclub for a while
right and then they're like well this is definitely more trouble than it's worse so they shut that
down and then i think some people just migrated over to the tomorrowland terrace area hanging out
there um but of course but by the early 2000s like i don't i think it's been many decades since
they've had a band that a teenager
would want to see like truly that video that i saw of the tambourines being passed out was like
i would say that's an all boomer crowd um i i mean they're pretty lit up when she uh uh when
she says yeah go tambourine team um but it's but notably not tambourine teens right oh yeah at that stage and i mean that stage is
also used for the star wars jedi academy so it's really it's catering to the over 55 crowd and the
under five crowd i it's a picture of the jedi academy popped up when i was just googling this
place yeah and like you know you have a darth vader and you have some stormtroopers and then you
have a bunch of like like five-year-olds yeah little kids who they've put the jedi ropes on
and it reminds me so much of the scene from episode three where anakin slaughters the young
like you're just dressing up these younglings And putting them right in front of Anakin They're gonna get
You're 100% correct
If there was another
There's gotta be another
Example of a character
That has just done something awful
And then putting
Teenagers in front of Helix
You don't do that
Just show Anakin a bunch of younglings
Yeah no you're right.
That's crazy.
Asking for a slaughter.
That's a crazy thing to do.
But the kids in the robes are really cute.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm sure that's a tambourine thing where you get the robe passed out and then someone
comes and collects it after the show.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
No, they're not giving you those robes.
That was cute and everything, but let's...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on.
Bob Chapecox collects the robes after. Yeah, we need they're not giving you those robes. That was cute and everything, but let's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. Bob Chapecox collects the robes after.
We need the robes back.
They're covered in mites, but we need the robes back.
We have to spray the robes for mites.
We got to degal.
Yeah.
A lot of itchy younglings coming out of Disneyland.
Let me see.
Just to hear, I'm just going to shout out some things in the history of you know
you get you jason you showed that very mod photo with the raleigh crump topper and that's a lot of
what played there kind of in the 60s and the 70s it was a lot of things you'd put in the category
of like today's sounds like happen in tunes for the young people and often with like just the
the list is pretty fantastic they are like it's like they're trying to like just the, the list is pretty fantastic. They are like,
it's like,
they're trying to like express the modern feel of it via artists that I'm
sure are like drastically watered down Rolling Stones.
Like it's all like crushed velvet.
It's all Austin powers style suits despite it being like 1979.
Um,
uh,
let's see,
we got pop Paris,
the new establishment, um, the um the blandest name i could
think of entertainment committee i love that entertainment committee is great yeah that
almost sounds like post-punk like i feel like that kate like you know public image limited
like what was the way that was like a like attempting to be obtuse like i don't know you
tell us what it is gang of four had that album entertainment i was thinking like and the idea
is like oh this is like deconstructing what like what like music is you know yeah yeah sure anyway
i that reminds me extremely clinical and on the nose yeah yeah yeah it's the same sort of phenomenon
where like if a british
rock music gets close enough to the event horizon they're gonna put out like a music hall record
like right like inspired sure like whatever that uh some of the kinks albums where it's like oh
this isn't quite rock i feel like elvis costello does that every three years. Oh, yeah. We just don't know it.
Yeah, I don't know what any of this in McCartney, too.
They're all obsessed with this musical.
He's like, warblers, I love y'all.
I'm not sure what.
That's how we sound now when we talk about music from the 60s and 70s.
It's all just like residual death of the British Empire madness.
We were talking about this before you got here. It's just like yeah all there's a lot of weird stuff in britain and i think it's all
just like oh they gave up being the empire that ruled the world they ceded it to america in the
20th century rock and roll guys have to warble now
that's how they cope with it what happens when the sun is set on your empire
you warble
as the sun sets
got to warble
got to warble
Scott do you know anything about that
YouTube video I sent you earlier today
do you know that
band what their deal was
I saw that they played this grad
1984 where they fit in
really well um like i'm almost like should i play this or where it probably shouldn't it's
the quality's pretty bad but like um yeah jordan you passed along a video this i believe was from
83 the stage is rising out of the ground uh the voice of disneyland jack wagner a classic announcer guy there i can
tell it's him now said uh ladies and gentlemen disneyland proudly presents crash and it's crash
with a k and they put the name up top and they rise up and are jamming out to toto's rosanna
yes in 83 i watched this video yes that is the, Jordan, you texted me exactly what I thought when I saw it, which is this
is my vibe distilled.
This is like exactly what is like so perfectly the avenue.
It is Gerard Nercor.
Gerard Nercor.
Yeah.
Ooh, I'll take it.
And what I was, what is so interesting about that, and yeah, and like it's filmed on a
camcorder, but occasionally to, to, to
make things a little more dramatic, whoever's operating it will like zoom in and out kind
of fast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think it goes into like negative vision at some point.
Oh, those in camera effects.
Oh man.
I love those.
When I started messing around with cameras.
I was thinking when I was watching them, I was like, Oh, this is the most, this is, you
know, arguably the most 80s
artifact that exists is this thing here but this happened in 83 was this cool when they were doing
it like so early in the 80s i'm like is this is this thing that they're doing was this actually
cool at the time or was it dorky i don't think it was so out of step and it was not like they're dressed in sort of the more like muted, you know, browns and leathers manner of the of the early 80s and not the like the hyper 80s, the gross 80s.
It's not too mulledy.
I think maybe that's some of what I like about Toto or that sort of scene.
The sort of AOR kind of stuff is it's not like it's not it's, it's not 80s times 80s times cocaine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh, it's not like Halloween costume 80s, but you also like, it's perfect for me too, because
you have, it's not only like that.
I mean, the whole set list is up my alley.
It's separate ways.
It's a Lionel Richie running with the night.
Uh, they threw it at, there's a song at the end.
I didn't even know what it was. And I, I looked it up and it was wham. ways it's uh lionel richie running with the night uh they threw it there's a song at the end i
didn't even know what it was and i i looked it up and it was wham it was a bad song called bad boys
by wham no yeah i don't know there's some deeper a little the slightly deeper wham pretty good
this is crazy that in less than 20 years they got to this point because the other state the
tomorrowland stage had like country music jubilee and another review called show me america oh boy and all straw hats
and i gotta i like some real corny bullshit i i like some real corny bullshit but i draw the line
at like hooray for america kind of uh review show which cuts out a lot of theme park content over
the course of 70 years you guys can never go to Branson.
You guys can never do your
Branson ordeal.
I will be in Branson.
It's come up, but it's like, oh
man.
I'm going to get run out of Branson
for being too mouthy.
Joe Rogan went to Austin. Podcast
of Rite is going to Branson.
Or you can say whatever you want to
without snowflakes.
Free speech won't be infringed in Branson.
We can be inquisitive in Branson.
I'm just going to say, I don't know if you're supposed
to say this these days, but
I think Barry Williams is a pretty good singer.
Whoa!
Go ahead, cancel me, Hollywood elites.
You say it.
I think the comedy of Yakov smirnoff is funny
cancel me america a few days in branson everyone's exhausted because every show you have to stand up
and salute for some reason well yeah you guys seen the branson documentary have you seen uh
we always we only lie to strangers no oh no oh it's great watching yeah it's about the dark underbelly of branson oh
yeah and uh yeah and they hit you with the title kind of at the very end of the movie and you kind
of you can kind of see what it means it's great oh wow we always light of strangers we only light
of strangers maybe am i maybe i'm getting that a little bit wrong um anyway oh i don't know but i
don't like seedy underbelly yeah no yeah we want
to keep it happy overbelly i'm seedy underbelly is a little bit wrong the i guess the like the
the i guess the like the the pain behind the fireworks we yeah we always lie to strangers
yeah i see it's killer i think you guys are love oh god i gotta watch this um yeah so it's not like
there's not like people aren't
od'ing it's like what what when they when they go out and they put on the happy america face
what's actually going on so funny that you're like trying to soften it for like oh yeah i don't want
you i know does it touch on i forget who talked about this but where i i heard it might have been
the best show might have been something else there's a video online of yakov smirnoff talking about his theater and it's like and it's the chair has a
little tray like a a school like a lecture hall it has a little desk built in and then the food
trays are magnet like they're metal but the right the tables are magnetic so you don't have to worry
about knocking your food what this is Yakov Smirnoff explaining.
Reinventing, or like canceling out the possibility of food spilling in a live concert.
I solved it.
That's right.
The number one issue, yeah.
The greatest innovation since the Handwich.
Magnetic school tray.
John Taffer would go in there and go, no notes!
Perfect!
Don't shut it down!
I usually say shut it down,
but now it's time to dry clean
my one sport coat.
I got my afternoon free now!
What am I going to do?
John Taffer running errands.
Finally, I can go to the bank!
Call my aunt!
But I like, finally i can go to the bank call my aunt but i like just to go back to this this crash for the k thing i mean perfect name playing music i dig it does feel it doesn't feel like i don't know if there's any that's
considered cool but it does feel accurately like 83 yeah mixed with that by the way the stage is
rising up the carousel theater just behind it
is spinning around you got skyway buckets flying by you got people mover cruising around and rocket
jets all these things that aren't there and then the but the monorail and things that are there
this is we've let like half of these tomorrowland kinetic energy things we bring it up all the time
i didn't realize the stage is one of them, too.
So it just makes this video so great that it's things that aren't there anymore,
rides that aren't there anymore, playing music I dig.
This is some Peak 83.
This might be time travel-wise.
This would be one of the spots I'd go.
I'd go to this Tomorrowland 83.
It'd be funny if at some point people are looking at the video
and they can see you walk through the frame.
Like, he did it!
He made it!
He got there! He died shortly after right yes it was uh sucked into a to a time displacement vortex
it's crushed but he had the happiest 10 minutes ever um that mixed with let me say this too that
i watched another uh another band uh that played in tomorrowland a lot called Polo.
And Polo is like not as much my 80s vibe as Crash.
They're a little more like Flock of Seagulls hair,
but pretty like right on with what music was.
And I watched a little like news report about Polo.
It's the new band that's rising up out of Anaheim. They apparently made waves at Knott's and then got stolen away by Disneyland.
Legitimately built a following.
That Disneyland, this is in like 85 or so.
Like I think got some local radio airplay.
The drummer for Polo, Josh Freeze.
You know Josh Freeze?
Oh, I know Josh Freeze very well, yes.
So I was friends with his half brother in high school. Josh Freeze went on to drum for the Vandals very well, yes. So I was friends with his half-brother in high school.
Josh Freeze went on to drum for the Vandals.
Yeah, yeah.
It was like one of my favorite high school bands.
So we would get into Vandals shows for free because I knew Josh's brother, Travis.
Oh, wow.
Oh, that's crazy.
Yeah, Orange County celebrity.
He's drummed for like everybody.
He's like...
Yeah, going through the list.
Nine Inch Nails, I think.
Nine Inch Nails.
Weezer.
Weezer.
Weezer.
Weezer.
Weezer.
Weezer.
Weezer.
Weezer.
Weezer.
Weezer.
Weezer.
Weezer.
Drums on the new Danny Elfman album. Wow. Is that true? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, Danny Elf list. Nine Inch Nails, I think. Weezer. Weezer. You go for a long time. Drums on the new Danny Elfman album.
Is that true?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, Danny Elfman has a very weird, very cool new album.
It's on like anti-records.
Done on, done during quarantine, so he didn't have access to orchestra and all of the flourishes.
So it's like a pared down Danny Elfman record.
Is that correct?
Oh, I don't know.
Good question. I don't know good question i don't know
the mirror and i only was oh funny i only uh heard a couple of the i only watched a couple of the
videos which are very weird but um but they're great that's cool he's done that but uh anyway
like such a legit drummer uh like i guess what i'm saying is at least in the 80s and in the case
of suburban legends there have been times where like
bands the main place that they
play like their home club
is this stage
or somewhere else at Disneyland
and I do I think they
CBGB
and we had this
the stage that rises out of the ground
and I I don't
know I think maybe what I'm getting at is Disneyland,
I just think it's neat.
And I think Disneyland should not go so hard
into the only Bon Jovi covers kinds of bands
to where it isn't possible for like something
that's vaguely current to play at Disneyland.
Maybe like that's, maybe it's impossible to think that something in 2021 that's vaguely current to play at disneyland maybe like that's maybe it's impossible to think
that something in 2021 that's vaguely cool could play at disneyland but like i don't know it did
it's like they regressed in this area you know like bands were actually a little cooler there
at one time well we've talked about this before too it does feel like it goes in and out and i
don't know you know a different theme park thing
that does more research than us could actually like maybe track like when disneyland is hip
like there should be like a hip meter because i get the sense that when disneyland opens
they're marketing to like cool young adults to go down and there's jazz music and they might
have louis armstrong or something playing and like crap yourself a phosphate yeah and it's like
that's a like it's like,
that's like, it seems like it was really cool to go there at the time.
And then the eighties,
this is all.
And when they're doing Halix,
that also seems like they're interested in like current cutting edge.
What is going on with feel like 81.
It's not so out of step.
It's not now.
Anything is like 25 years past when it was,
it would have felt current in the nineties.
I think that was whatever
there's probably a real hard thing videopolis like his videopolis itself is also the idea of
like young people get them here right what they like we're gonna play music that but then and now
it's like no thing like whatever is whatever's music can comfortably play in a ralph's you know
like that might even be too much we need it to to be like a Ralphs from 25 years ago.
I saw a recent Tomorrowland band play and I don't remember their name.
I don't really remember anything about it because it was just so generic.
And I think I,
I think I had it on for a little bit and heard three Coldplay songs.
So I think it is. And this is from like four years ago. Yeah.
So I think that's where they're at now.
And look, you're're gonna think i'm
trying to talk about mad tea parties more and i i'm just gonna make a point is that i think the
closest thing you'll get to current hip stuff is when they do some sort of electronica like
tron electronica festival where they play like how like house music or electronic music and the
same thing when dj white rabbit would take the stage
that's probably the closest you'll get to like what a young person is like maybe on the cutting
edge of some type of music well you but you the one thing we hadn't really talked about
you i feel like would pass by tomorrowland terrace a number of years like five or six years ago i
feel like you happen to be at the park a number of times where like there's a band playing at tomorrowland terrace and max from goof the goofy
movie is dancing to gangnam style like like a band is playing i don't think we've ever seen
max from goofy goof troops dancing to gangnam style or like uh mr incredible right though like yeah yeah that's correct have i seen the country bears
dancing in the last three years and did i run over to them and take photos with them yes yeah
am i i do i have am i wearing the shirt i might have been wearing when i that happened very
possible a shirt which is as grito it's the star wars grito shirt uh but you're also talking about
the disney ticketed event their 80s night l, Lindsay and I went to right before the pandemic,
where we got to see Totally Minnie on this stage, on this area.
Right.
Oh, that was in this spot.
This was in this spot.
I don't think the stage was actually elevated,
but this was in the spot where Minnie, Donald, Goofy,
all in their 80s outfits came out and danced to 80s songs
and the song Totally Minnie mini which is a good song
and lindsey and i hung around dancing with the characters in this area 45 minutes and then doug
jones shows up and he's like yeah hey that makes sense to me uh so that those things i remember i
don't remember if there was a character like max i they do once in a while yes have little uh characters run around characters next to the band yeah yeah yeah and the character
dances a little and then wanders into the crowd a little which is bait for me for sure if the
characters are like easily accessible and dancing sign me up please uh so yeah that that's still i
wouldn't say that's hip or cutting edge. I would say that.
No, no, that's just a different flavor of thing that goes on at the stage
that we hadn't really mentioned.
Yeah, random odd dance party.
It's hard to quantify what it is that happens there now exactly.
There are bands.
They do happen.
It is like, if I've had a couple drinks,
I will for sure go over and dance around for a second for whatever it is.
Yeah.
Some weird, some cover of Good Vibrations. for sure go over and like dance around for a second for whatever it is yeah um some like weird
some cover of good vibrations is used but it's vaguely in my head yeah but i don't like also
like with i mean there are pop charts still i mean like taylor swift is popular right like that
would be something you would be playing yeah i guess i'm just trying to think of like what else
to shake it off they're not playing the like Moodier They're not at indie rock Taylor Swift
They're still at Pop Branch
They're not at the Rift
None of the stuff with Bon Iver
They would never dare
Nothing that's even close to Bon Iver
His reverb level at Disney
Bob Chapek would flip his lid
Olivia Rodrigo probably
Too bawdy those songs Probably too bawdy, those songs.
Might be a little too bawdy.
Probably too bawdy, despite the fact that she is or was a cast member on their high school musical,
the musical Disney Plus show.
Yeah.
The new Lorde song, maybe.
Maybe.
It's a little poppier, a little more, feels a little more George Michael to me, honestly, than the old Lorde stuff.
There's probably a Miley Cyrus cutoff, too.
There's like some Miley that would play, but maybe not, you know, her body or material.
Of course, yeah.
She's not visible anywhere with a shocking tongue out of the mouth.
Sure, with her tongue sticking out.
Yes, sure.
Like a Rolling Stone logo.
Like a Rolling Stone logo.
The most body of logos.
Mike, would second level reunite to play the Tomorrowland stage?
Do you think you could get those guys to...
Like take a week off of a job, a real job they have?
Yeah.
Come to Tomorrowland, play The Reason with me.
We did not ever cover Who Bestands The Reason.
I haven't talked to them In a little while
I don't know
They would maybe
Be up for that
Guess what
Vodcast the Ride
Bands Reunited
Our new
Here bring the cameras in
Alright we have
What if I said
We've contacted
Every other member
Of Second Level
And they've learned
The reason
They already know
it yeah they're waiting in a van they've been jamming on it for weeks i'll learn i can learn
it fast what did you do you remember any could you sing a couplet of a second level song do you
you're asking for a cover an original yeah an original yeah yeah yeah
that's when we rocked the house oh wait a minute we never got out i think you said this one on the
show i guess i've heard this one before yeah um there we did uh my friend okay so y'all see you
have to sing it if you know the melody you have to sing it uh hold on hold the microphone whoa
hold on whoa this is like the concert stage
rising up in Tomorrowland.
Somebody hold this.
A guitar is, wait, how do we do this?
I didn't play guitar in the band, but I kinda know.
Do we need to rig up, does somebody need to take,
you keep the, no, no, you need to stand.
Yeah, hold on.
Here, wait, here, we'll edit it out.
Yeah, edit this out.
And we've rearranged our usual microphone setup.
Jordan, it's got to be a thrill to watch this live concert happening.
Just unspool in front of you.
Yeah, I mean, this is like Woodstock for me.
I'm going to tell all my grandkids.
I will be as sloppy as Woodstock often was.
If you remember when Mike Carlson played the second level song, you weren't even there.
I feel really bad.
I will do a live show.
I will have this rehearsed at a certain point, too.
No, no, no.
It's only two songs.
It's okay.
It's what got you guys into the talent show, rawness.
Okay, wait.
Put that all.
Okay.
Yeah, so basically I'm going to try to play what the verse sounded like, and then I'm
just going to do the chorus of it.
Okay. Wait, and Jason, do you want going to do the chorus of it Wait and Jason
You want us to hear the intro
What's this song called
This song is called Rock the House Jason
Alright we're here
We got Mike Carlson from Second Level here
With his hit song Rock the House
Take it away Mike
So here's what I remember
I think it would go around something like this
So we would kind of be playing like a...
That would be kind of the groove you're thinking,
like in the drums,
like a Red Eyed Chili Peppers style thing.
And then the chorus would be like...
That's when we rocked the house.
Oh, wait a minute.
We never got out.
Oh, come on.
Can't you see?
All those people, they were looking at me.
Yeah.
So that would be the gist of the chorus.
I apologize for how sloppy it was.
Wow.
No, no apologies necessary.
We never got out.
And then what was that second line?
Oh, come on.
Can't you see?
All those people, they were looking at me.
Yeah.
Well, one thing's for
certain this crowd is going home tonight separately alone to pray and read magazines
that was great i can see how that would have fucking killed at that venue that fallout boy
also played yeah um and we were it was not sophisticated like the other band that we beat out because we
were more accessible.
Too self-important.
Yeah.
I remember.
We aren't Bono yet.
When we did the variety show, when we were doing the variety show, I remember I also
did a comedy sketch in the show and my bandmates were mad at me because they thought it was
going to ruin the integrity.
I don't know what this is about.
Yeah, it was going to ruin the integrity of the.
When you're like the Foo Fighters dress up in costumes and wings. Yeah, exactly. This is the integrity of the... When you're like the Foo Fighters, dress up in costumes and wigs.
Yeah, exactly.
This is the same thing.
That's why we love the Foo Fighters.
Exactly.
So...
Wow.
That's a snippet.
I will play...
I will learn it, relearn it,
and I'll play it at a certain point for everyone.
Okay.
There's this fictional PTR con
that I'm always booking in my head.
Yeah.
Sure.
Second level reunion.
Yeah.
What was our con called? why can't i remember that did we have one well the one across from the
oh we actually did it oh yeah yeah we had a name for it yeah you're right d23 that was our yeah we
didn't ptr 23 23 doesn't necessarily apply so yeah yeah no we can we can see our but you know look have i floated
the idea of an all music show for podcasts already i certainly have internally so i'd like to get
some of the groundswell energy here like there would be a lot of support for that have jason
and mike or jason and scott been uh slightly skeptical that's right that's why i'm going
maybe that's why i'm going to the people That's why I'm taking it right to the people. Are those Beatles costumes funny?
Do you want to hear?
Will we wear the Beatles costumes?
And will you laugh at them?
Because I think the answer is yes.
I have requested at least one or two outings
where I talk on a stage before I get to singing on a stage.
Getting back to regular life, I believe.
Jason needs a lot of warm-up time on the stage.
I need to get my ring rust off, you know?
I got to shake off the...
I could do an improv show with you right now.
Yeah.
No problem.
We'll get on a stage.
It'll be just as good as any garbage we did eight years ago.
Well, that is true.
That is for sure.
I don't need any warm-up.
I'm ready to go tonight.
We're all excited for improv to come back.
I'm not ready just to play Rock the House,
because I haven't done that in a while.
That's when we'll know things are really back to normal.
That's when we'll know.
In a theater with no air conditioning at 10 p.m.,
and the show was supposed to start at 9.
More people on stage than in my audience.
That's when we'll know America's back.
Yeah.
What have we not name-checked in this?
Let me just say another quick run of band names
because we get you know i was saying those like groovy uh 60s 70s ones i also want to mention um
uh tabasco uh the friendship train and your kind of people oh my god i have names too that are not
those names that are not those wow yeah i just i really like your kind of people because it feels
potentially from like a grouchy
Disney executive,
a card walker.
Like, yeah,
you'll like the band.
It's your kind of people.
I agree.
I have Voyager,
Soundcastle Limited.
Yeah.
You have those two?
I got Soundcastle Limited.
What an intriguing name.
I don't know much about them.
Laser?
Laser with a Z.
With a Z. Laser with a Z.
And then do you have Sunshine Balloon?
Yes, Sunshine Balloon is really intriguing.
I couldn't find out much more about them.
Yeah, I didn't either.
These things should have been documented better.
Some of these sound like drug references.
That's true.
Yeah, potentially.
Getting a little trippy, Disney.
Maybe Popey did drug tests on these rock and rollsters you let...
Has anyone said Papa Do-Run-Run?
Oh, I saw Papa Do-Run-Run as well, yeah.
Papa Do-Run-Run.
I kept going, is it Papa Um-Mow-Mow?
No, it's Papa Do-Run-Run.
Oh, here's a name.
Ali and AJ performed during 2006, during the 50th.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I have heard those names before once.
If this were a Coachella poster,
which of these names would be big
and which would be small?
Suburban Legends would be big, it seems like.
I mean, I would, at least middle,
I would push for Crash for the K.
It's Papa Do Run Run Beyonce,
I guess is what I'm getting at.
Essentially.
Well, look, they also are to me Because Papa Do Run Run are a bunch of people
Who've played with the Beach Boys
And I think in fact for a long time
Were specifically the backup band of Jan and Dean
And what I learned about Papa Do Run Run
Is that
They were so close
And so frequently hung out with the Beach Boys
That sometimes they'd be playing Disneyland
And they would tell Brian and Carl Wilson, do you want to come down and hang and be part of our set?
And they would, which I never knew about.
And all my Beach Boys fandom, I didn't know.
Wow.
Brian and Carl, my favorite Beach Boy, heart of the band, Traitor, Long Promise Road, Feel Flow is my favorite song.
I cannot say them.
They'd come down and play.
Another time machine thing.
If I could go see, you know, 1978 Beach Boys,
Wilson Brothers, both huge messes at this point.
Brian just starting to leave his house for the first time.
Carl deep in the throes of alcoholism that he later kicked.
But, you know, I want to see some drunk ass beach boys
clowning around on the stage this is let me also say how uh how disturbingly deep my beach boys
fandom goes that i saw a picture that papa duron run posted of uh carl wilson uh on stage with them
and i was like oh it's his green jacket like Like, I know enough Beach Boys footage that I'm like,
Knit your green jacket.
It's that cool, shiny green jacket.
Like, I've thought, like, maybe I want to get a green jacket like Carl wore.
It's, like, it's weird.
I can't.
You should get the green jacket.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
I just haven't, you Like You know You feel You know
A little emotional
Bringing up something like this
It's very very vulnerable
You guys would be okay
If I came in here
With a shiny
Green jacket
Right out of 1979
You know
Take it to Milneity
They'll make sure the fit's right
I love it
Yeah
Right
A fitted
Yeah
Listen
If the last year's taught us anything
Do it now man
Don't wait
Yeah you're right
Yeah Who knows when we'll end
up shoved in a closet again thank you get the green jacket get the green jacket i like colors
a lot i like wear all the different colors my you know i wear like i was wearing pink shoes
and my parents acted like i was wearing like a flamingo costume once uh so yeah i i think you
go for it you know and then you'll you'll know it'll give you the power yeah think you go for it You know And then you'll
You'll know
It'll give you
The power
Yeah
Everywhere you go
Because you'll know
Why you're wearing it
That's right
But if I come on stage
When we do a live show
And I'm wearing this jacket
Just remember
This is not
A Sgt. Pepper jacket
This is not to be laughed at
No
This is a cool rock jacket
To be applauded
It's not a funny
Beatles cover band
No
Nothing funny about it why you're giving
tc tugger's rules and it's not a joke it's not a joke it's good the jacket's good it's a knee
it's a neat good cool rock and roll jacket it's cool and i want a long applause when i come out
wearing jacket jacket jacket all right i peaked that's the end of the show good night
everybody you saw the jacket go i hope that's how our listeners are like hey it's this green
jacket it's not like wow does jason own more than a blue shirt they've got you figured out they know
about your blue they got you to one more of those yeah like merge's dress i wear it at theme parks because it's versatile you can wear it rolled up
or sleeves down but i'm realizing like oh boy we post a lot of pictures of me there's one
has anyone noticed no no just me being so well now by bringing it up this is the strizand effect
watch out for the shirt everyone he's got a really. He loves a muted blue. This MF loves blue.
He loves blue as much as he loves treats.
A new thing.
Whoa, yes.
New Jason angle.
Right.
Loves blue as much as the fish in the ocean.
We're taking him down every episode now.
To Jason, blue is not just an alien in vegas are you guys would you guys do vegas anytime soon august baby wow oh you're doing oh wait i didn't
know that wait did you mean performing there or going uh i mean just going to hang out it seems
like that's so planned on going at august oh nice okay yeah uh yeah august summer slam oh big big Nice, okay. Yeah. Yeah, August, SummerSlam. Oh, nice. Big weekend.
Got it.
The GCW show the night before.
They're like indie.
They're more hardcore.
They're more of like a suburban legend versus like your corporate ska.
Yeah, thank you.
Now this makes sense to me now.
Please explain wrestlers in terms of what ska band they're analogous to.
Yeah, exactly. So August as of now, yeah. please explain wrestlers yeah in terms of what ska band they're analogous to yeah exactly so
uh august as of now yeah so it's like a slapstick or a less than jake would you say
operation ivy i had a less than jake face though i will say less than less than jake still fucking
rule less than jake puts out new material and it's good interesting yeah right did you break
down the democratic presidential candidates uh during the primaries into which ska bands they were?
Yes, I know
And that's why I decided
I'm like, well, okay
Elizabeth Warren, of course
Is the dancehall crashers
Let's see
What have we
Anything else we want to shout out?
Oh, you know what?
A really fast Michael Iceberg and the Iceberg Machine.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yeah.
Did you run into this?
They're punning Michael Eisner?
It's not.
This is very confusing.
If you say it fast, it sounds like Michael, but it's not Michael Eisner.
It's Michael Iceberg.
Michael Iceberg.
Is that meant to evoke Michael Eisner?
I don't think so, because I think it predates.
Before there was Michael Eisner, there was
Michael Iceberg. And sometimes
you would go to Disneyland or Disney
World and the stage would
rise up and on the stage would be
a big glass pyramid
and then one of the triangle flaps
would fold down and a bunch of dry
ice would shoot out.
Once the lots of dry ice
dissipated, which it seems like it
took a long time to you would see inside a guy just with a full artillery of synths um just like
shelf after shelf after shelf and not only that but a mirror behind him so you could watch his
hands play he has like a beakman energy to me when i see him you know what i mean like there's
did someone say get me a yanni did someone say we need a yanni in here i think it predates yanni
too but that really seems like something eisner would do is like we what is disney i saw this guy
on pbs watching him play all this stuff is very impressive it reminds me of like when someone
sits between two pianos and
plays two pianos at once that sounds cool yeah it is it is pretty neat there was a whole concert
special of this inexplicably on the disney channel and they would try to like disneyify it because
ultimately it's like a guy playing keyboards and they'd go like well how does this guy's song about
his daughter apply not really disneyish so then they just kind of like put up footage from
bambi over it like does that do it yeah sure very strange special yeah um a lot of banter
maybe too much banter maybe too much banter yeah yeah more rock less talk iceberg
play two keyboards that's what we're here for i want to hear patter he's on uh he made several appearances on the tonight show
yeah yeah person kind of carson hates him yeah yeah he's really mocking him in the intro he
says like well this still just get me closer to getting in my car and he's like fighting he's
like yeah he's really like mad like shits i've never seen him shit that
hard on somebody that's about to come out or do something unless he like was being funny like
being friendly this is a really abrasive carson intro to where like you could tell somebody like
went and like the person like they saw this guy at the opening of epcot and i think that's why
he ended up on carson so what and watching carson have to to say like he was at the opening of the Epcot Center
down in Florida
and you could tell
the disdain.
Yeah, he hates all of it.
What is this shit?
What is that stupid word?
Yeah.
Don't give me these cards
to read.
Let me riff.
He's furious.
Yeah, yeah.
And he's like,
what's his producer,
Freddy?
Freddy DeCordova?
DeCordova.
DeCordova.
Yeah, he's like talking to him and like he's like
yeah i'm getting through it like he's he's just so upset vicious carson is kind of frightening
you know what it's very scary carson you know was supposed to be a a miserable guy from a lot of
accounts uh there's also a good uh rest in peace charles groden interview where groden goes at him
for like 10 minutes.
Have you seen that?
Which extracts the funniest Carson ever is because he's mean right back.
That was always their shtick, I didn't realize, was being awful to each other.
Yeah, I didn't either.
And people didn't understand that, so they'd boo Grodin.
Right.
He got angry letters all the time.
Wow.
Nicer to America's host.
Yeah, and he's not justanky like he was On other shows
He's like
Just derails
Every question
Yeah
And just questions like
What he cares about
Who he cares about
So the things that
I guess really made
Carson the angriest
Charles Grodin
And Michael Iceberg
Michael Iceberg
Who
It's funny with the context
Of Carson
And watching it as a TV show
Because
I'm immediately like oh come on
cara come on why are you being such an asshole about this and then it cuts to my glidesburg and
he plays a real like to use a better uh i didn't not know a better uh way to put it a real farty
synth sounding baroque hoedown which is the song from the uh main street electrical parade oh yeah uh electrical parade and i go okay i get it now in context that you'd be like what is this shit did michael iceberg write
the electrical no no okay not no but he played it he played it and like plays a different vert
like little versions of it and like uh you know he veers off of it and Star Wars and Close Encounters. It's like all the space music of the era.
Yeah, I could see Carson catches that on a TV
on his way in to like yell at his
assistant to like
make her redo all that day's typing
and like, wait, what's on the
show tonight?
I'm just trying to get to my smokehouse
reservation.
Get me drunk Burthouse reservation. Yeah.
Give me drunk Burt Reynolds instead.
Yeah.
Because if it was in the context of the park,
I'd be like, this is the greatest man I've ever seen,
Michael Iceberg.
Right.
And then in the context of the Tonight Show, I'd go,
oh, yeah, this is fucking some dumb bullshit.
Right.
If you're not coming out of a pyramid, there's less impact.
Right.
Well, he does on the show.
He did bring the pyramid.
He brought the ice machine.
Yeah.
And it takes the fog so long to go away.
I'm on his side then.
That's one of the funniest things always to me is the fog machine that won't stop.
Last for the full five minute performance.
That in like my school theater program and like middle school i think that middle
school and high school shared a fog machine but that was a big purchase that was a big deal yeah
that we had the fog machine and you weren't allowed we weren't allowed to fool around with
that like like a parent managing it like for certain scenes of mcbeth only yeah but it was
sequences right you could get fleet you could pick this it was always pina colada
sent it so it would like pump out this pina colada haze and sometimes it would let it run
way too long and it would take forever to dissipate pina colada haze also great on the
tomorrowland band of 78 right the way they yelled pick it up Pick it up Pick it up Was really something
They were the best at it
A lot of bands stole that
But they were the best
I mean
I feel like we're winding down
We are
Our list
I have one
One quick iceberg
Tidbit
Yeah
I don't know
After leaving Disney
Where he eventually
Performed both Disney World
He did the Sunny Eclipse stage and Disneyland.
Michael played the Iceberg Machines in corporate engagements, occasional shows at colleges and air shows.
These allowed him to return to his hometown of Aspen, Colorado and semi-retire where he lived as a neighbor to Michael Eisner.
Iceberg and Eisner?
Neighbors.
Neighbors.
Iceberg, Eisner.
Oh, Letterman at the Oscars. Iceberg, Eisner. Neighbors. Iceberg, Eisner. Letterman at the Oscars.
Iceberg, Eisner.
Oprah, Uma.
No way.
This will kill at the live show when I come out
in my cool green jacket.
Iceberg, Eisner.
Alright, we got our first
seven minutes at least.
Jacket applause.
Eisner, Eisberg.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Closed with a jam from, what was the song, Rock the Party?
Rock the House. Rock the House.
Yeah.
Ladies and gentlemen, second level.
That was it, right?
The second level.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The cops got called on us once, I will say.
All right.
In a backyard party.
You rocked so loud that the cops came?
Yes, we did.
Did you just keep rocking or did you stop and apologize?
Mike beat up a cop.
Took his gun.
Handcuffed him with a microphone cord.
Tied it so hard it bruised.
We turned up the amps louder and then the cops their clothes turned into
heavy metal clothes and they just started becoming fans of ours right oh yeah yeah and the and the
and the grandma who came out with curlers in her hair turned into a babe of a yeah from a beer
commercial yeah the power of your rock grandma turned into like cindy margolis right sure the power of your mckenzie said he was proud of
you yeah yeah i'm proud of you mike and then annoyed gave me some pizza everybody was there
he's back on the final note of rock the house uh it was so powerful that the bikini babe grandma
ended up pregnant with your child. Right.
That's right.
Yeah, I have a 30-year-old.
That math makes sense, right?
I was seven when the band was happening.
Jeez.
Well, hey, that's a blast.
Great to rock out with ya for a while.
Yeah, thank you for using the casual ya instead of you.
Ya, yeah. It's like I knew it was coming and it made me stutter i knew i wasn't going to be casual enough to get through
the yeah uh apologies uh but uh yeah hey good stuff thanks for joining us yeah jordan morris
podcast the ride um hey uh let's exit through the gift shop is there anything besides any cool
rock and or ska music you like that you might want to plug?
Sure.
Check out Lester Jake's recent output.
Revisit Skank and Pickle.
Yeah.
Mike Park from that band still does a lot of good.
Anyway, okay.
Yes, I have a graphic novel coming out on July 13th.
It is called Bubble.
I co-wrote it with a great writer named Sarah Morgan.
The art and adaptation is by
a great comics artist named Tony Cliff
who does the Delilah Dirk series.
The colors are by Natalie Reese
who does the Dungeon Critters series.
It's a sci-fi comedy.
It's kind of set in a near future
where all of
these kind of down
and out 20-something have to they live in
this bubble city that's kind of like a little silver lake or a brooklyn and they kind of
participate in this life or death gig economy if they want to survive and it's uh yeah there's a
bunch of sex jokes and robots and monsters it's uh based on the scripted podcast i did from a
couple years ago uh but you don't have to have heard the podcast um that's also they could check that out too they could check that out too if you want a little primer
some people have been on our show i think doing voices yeah that's true imagine yes uh you got a
you got a mike mitchell in there doing voices um let's see other ptr people uh you got an eliza
skinner you got an allison becker you got a cristela Alonso whose voice is in the Disney park she's Cruz Ramirez
that's right
yeah
yeah so
yeah it was very cool
I'm a big comics guy
from way back
it'll shock you to know
that I was into
not only
drama club
and ska music
but also
comic books
wow
I know I'm a fucking
enigma
weird
I'm trying to pin
this guy down
wow this
this guy likes ska and Vertigo Comics.
Wow.
Whoa.
Well, you're so fucking twisted.
Yes, I'm a goddamn cartoon of myself.
Anyway, yes.
But yeah, it's called Bubble.
It comes out on July 13th.
But if you're listening to this before July 13th, you can pre-order it.
That's a big help to books. So yeah can if you're listening to this before july 13th you can pre-order it that's a big
like uh help to books so yeah if you want to the excitement there great great yes well yeah get to
it yes pre-order bubble i'm gonna i'm gonna take a wild guess and and uh assume that maybe some ptr
listeners have relationships with their local comic book store so give them a call up they'll
pre-order it for you helps store the store out Helps the book out
Oh geez great
Yes you can do it
In a non-corporate way
You could
You can do it in a corporate way
I'm not gonna be a dick
But yeah
Maybe also do it
In a non-corporate way
That'd be cool
Hey neat
Like the spirit
Of non-corporate ska
Yes
But keep that in your heart
Thank you
Yes
Awesome that's cool
Yeah check out Bubble
And as for us
You can find us on all
the socials at podcast,
the ride merch is
available in our,
in our T public store.
And for three bonus
episodes every month,
check out podcast,
the ride,
the second gate at
patrion.com slash podcast,
the ride where you did
promise at some point
there would be a tier
where the second level
I did promise that.
Yeah.
Come out.
We just,
well,
it's actually a different
album.
This is,
that's my,
I promised my solo
album would come out
on the second tier. That actually a different album this that's my i promised my solo album would come out on the second tier that's a different project different thing yeah thank
you for getting the continuity correct for everyone yeah okay okay all right so we got
to talk about that second t that third gate or uh what did we say it was going to be our disney sky
or what the disney c was the second but disney sky was not the unbuilt third yeah so
we'll figure out what it is yeah well okay so go to the sky when the sky yeah when the sky exists
it'll be there the cloud it's in the cloud now um do you know any couplets from that offhand
um there's a uh there's a chorus uh to a's a chorus, uh, to a song called stranger.
Uh, and it's like a stranger in the morning when I rub my eyes, it's like something like
that.
It's really good.
Yeah.
Is it about like a, like a hookup?
Is it about a one night stand?
These songs were about nothing.
I don't know what I was trying to, I would like try to like sit on your hand and then
jack off.
I would like try to like free associate with all this stuff and think that's sort of like what more like real art was when you sort of just like words and like it's about a feeling and it's like anything
yeah no valid yeah i mean it's the way yeah good songs have been written like that sure
that's true but maybe it will the audience will decide what box to put
stranger in right as long as
they copy of strange as long
as they pay us enough money
they will be able to decide
amen look out for that thanks
for listening keep rocking bye
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