Podcast: The Ride - Tower of Terror (Tokyo DisneySea) with Lindsay Katai

Episode Date: October 8, 2021

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FOREVER! DOG! it is to wait in line. All this plus Lindsay K. Tai returns to talk Tower of Terror at Tokyo DisneySea on today's fiendishly fun Haunt Cast the Fright. You know, in the future, a Los Angeles Preservation Society will show off this very garage and tell the people that three little theme park boys talked about CEOs and made for cable movies. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. That will be the most notable episode. Maybe the only one that survives, you know? Yeah.

You mean the Jay Leno? Yeah. Yeah. Through the passage of time and as history moves on, a lot gets lost. Right. But I like to think we talk about Made for Cable Movies and Jay Leno on almost every podcast. So it really doesn't break it down that much.

Yeah. No, that's fair. A tiny amount. Yeah. Before there was the full episode. Scott Gardner here as well. Yeah. Could I just, if any of this is going to be preserved by historical society, can I maybe try to wriggle out of the phrase little theme park boys?

Could I request that there be a rewrite on that? Wow, that's just something a little theme park boy would do. Wiggle out. Yeah. That is true. Jason's right. If you hadn't said wiggle. Yeah.

Sorry. Oh, no, I said wriggle. You said wriggle out. Oh. That wasn't clear enough. I don't know. It's already lost history. It's already gone. Any kind of igling to get out of a situation sounds like a little theme park boy to me.

Igle is a theme park boy's thing. A little figgle diggle. Can I figgle diggle my way out of being called a theme park boy? That is how people hear us, I think. They hear that voice. Welcome to Podcast Roy. Hosted by us, I think. They hear that voice. Welcome to Podcast Arise. Hosted by me, Mike Carson. In our minds, we're like, hello there.

This is Podcast Arise here. Michael Eisner was a pretty good CEO, was he not, Jason? That's right, Michael. Let's talk about throughput per hour. How many guests are hitting up that bad boy every hour? Meanwhile, let's take a few calls. All the listeners at home are just hearing like, I liked it when

the big ride weighed fast. And when people are saying, this is a podcast I listen to, and they were talking about Disney World's anniversary, and they made a good point of it. It was a swamp. It was a scary swamp before the wise were there. Anyway, so I like it You know I subscribe for

Info like that Yeah Oh man That is really We are really realizing Something It's a revelation Honestly

I didn't know You guys didn't know I guess we did It was a joke I was making a joke I thought No That's true

That's how we sound That voice of course Is the lily monster To my Herman Because it's haunt cast the fright Lindsay Kaytai She's here Hello I'm here

Hi Last time I called you What's Mary Steenburgen? Sarah something I said I was of a modern The Clifford? Yeah I was the

What's her face to your Who's it's butt Shoot Oh well Now it looks like I'm not a huge Clifford guy Well, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was the, what's her face to your, who's its butt? Shoot. Oh, well. Now it looks like I'm not a huge Clifford guy. Well, I know that you're, there's no question that you're a huge Munsters guy, because I was just re-listening to an episode from a couple weeks ago where I realized it's a recurring thing.

I think it's happened more than once, where I have said, I've made a reference to the Munsters car, and then you're like, Dragula, yes. Yeah, Dragula's a Dragula. Yes. That is huge. The people must know car, and then you're like, Dragula, yes. Yeah, Dragula's a Dragula. Yes. The people must know. Let that moment pass to not say Dragula. Does not surprise. It's a Dragula.

It's not a Dragula car. Excuse me. The car is a Dragula. The Dragula? Sarah Davis. Miss Sarah Davis. Sarah Davis. Yeah, this is what Lindsay hears.

Lindsay probably hears the word Dragula once a week, probably. I mean, I for sure hear the word Munsters multiple times a week. Dragula, I feel like because I'm not personally bringing up the car, Dragula very much. Well, you're trying to get away from the Munsters topic in general. You're just like, it'll pass. It'll pass. Just literally running. It's like a thunderstorm in Orlando.

You're like, if I just keep my head down, it'll just roll over me. I'm just going to let myself get soaked because it's inevitable. Won't do too much damage. Are there any recent Mike viewing trends, especially forced viewing trends upon you that we don't know about?

Gosh, aren't there? That's very on the spot. and i don't think he would hide anything but no no he would never he's nothing if not honest you hear this it's like a house full of jack benny this i understand well we had talked about we do watch jack benny occasionally um we don't i yeah because we were talking about late shift you know you know some men always have the tv on and the sport game on but that's not what you know scott and i roll necessarily actually i i um this is sadly topical um not too long ago i think maybe the most recent time i was like yes i you have shown that to me thank you was. Was Norm MacDonald on Comedians in Cars Getting Coffees, the Kojak story.

Yes. Yes. There's a Norm reciting a Kojak, like a scene from the Kojak pilot, which I think is funny. Which is very funny. And you've shown it to me before, but you were like, then like just repeating the entire bit to me. And was like yeah i remember that but then you just like kept going even though i had said i remember it yeah you pretty much recited don't blame conan in the late shift episode yeah yeah oh yeah they're all like yeah

i've seen it well so anyway so what happens is but the listeners might not know and they wouldn't want to just look it up actually he was just telling me about that because i didn't know about she actually didn't know don't Blame Krona, which is. I did not know. When there's something I know and she doesn't know, boy, is the party starting. Boy, is that fun. Look, I am the same way. Yes, it is a big green light.

If I ask Erin, have you heard of this? And she says, no. Well, that means. Let me set the table. Let me put my bib on. Chuck my bib in. have you heard of this? And she says, no. Well, that means let me set the table. Let me put my bib on. Chuck my bib in. Michael is eating tonight. Speaking of sharing things,

and I don't want to like, well, there's a lot to get to in the episode, I'm sure. But just in case this is a 20 minute tangent, I just like that right before we started recording uh jason was talking about a new epcot lounge in which you can get free cans of seltzer and mike's response was really that was that's a little taste of uh for the episode yeah that's the that's that's again that's the man talk that happens sort of off mike i was real

impressed with that because we you know we were talking about the magic key lounge which sounds like it's unimpressive because i haven't been yet um but then i hear there's a free you get a free can at disney at the blue cross blue shield lounge yeah blue shield of florida or or something i i yeah in the norway pavilion you need to go to a website In the Norway pavilion Yes In the Norway pavilion Because The restaurant That seems extra funny to me

For some reason Yeah why are these affiliated Norway and Blue Cross Well Healthcare They just They just had an empty room Let's be honest

Well it is Because they haven't done Like face character Maskless face character Like meals Character meals Have not come back Like that's where The princess dining is Oh because they haven't done like face character, maskless face character, like meals, character meals have not come back. Like that's where the princess dining is. Oh,

so they have that empty room. So they have an empty room and apparently you can pick one beverage and two snacks. Oh, so there's a variety of beverages. There's like hummus and yogurt. Wow. So that's pass holder only?

No, you just have to get i i the the disney tourist blog had the full rundown on it and a link to the pass and your insurance has to approve it you know what privatized health care is good yeah i didn't like it till right now that does seem well yeah if you're there i mean tweet us a photo if you go to this lounge. Yeah, if you make it to the lounge. And Club Cool's back open, too. So you can really get some freebies at Epcot right now. Beverly is back.

Beverly flavor soda at Club Cool is back. Some free undrinkable sodas. Yeah. So there's a lot of exciting stuff for someone to say, exclaim, wow, at. Or get very excited. Really? Really. Really.

Whatever I said. People are saying there's a new Beverly. Oh, yeah. The new Beverly. You mean? Are these soda? Like, what's the new bad soda? I'm sure someone listening doesn't know what Beverly is.

People who listen to this podcast don't know what Beverly is? Well, I didn't know it, but that's, I guess, common. It's constantly like, what's that? You don't know that. You don't know Beverly? Because I guess, common. It's constantly like, what's that? You don't know that. You don't know Beverly? Because I just learned this. Beverly is a weird, that's this bad soda, this soda dispensing place.

Free soda in Epcot. And everybody spits it out right away. Yeah, it's gross. Soda from around the world. I have no memory of what Beverly tastes like. It's an aperitif. It's a non-alcoholic aperitif is what it's labeled as. And it's like just a very bitter soda.

But is it a new version of it? Is that what people are saying? There's a new bad soda. Right. That is like, oh, that's the new Beverly that is bad. And Beverly is also back, but there's a new soda

that people are calling the new Beverly. Right, right, right, right. Is it the sour plum one from China? Might be. Okay. Might be, because I know our boy Mr. Morrow didn't like it. Yes, that is our new, that is the thing we

our newest shared thing is that we love watching YouTube Mr. Morrow, and he goes paging Mr. Morrow which is favorite TV show now. Paging Mr. Morrow. Paging Mr. Morrow, which is the play on words from the Tomorrowland people mover. Yeah, so we watch him a lot. And he's the most positive guy and tries every food. He's in the park seemingly five days a week.

I love him so much. A guy always walking around the Disney World parties. You guys explained this all to me, and you told me that there are episodes where some of the highlights that happened to this guy are one time he lost his hat. On the Tower of Terror, yes. On the Tower of Terror. Oh, yes.

Oh, hey, appropriate. I forgot there was a topic. And one time a bee got in his pocket, and then you sent me a video, and I think we were all surprised To learn same day Same episode all Killer no filler and I think perhaps

Also in that episode is when He delights in goofy Sprunging his whiskers Yeah or Goofy or Pluto was it Oh Pluto I think it was Pluto yeah Definitely Pluto that's one of my favorite episodes There's a lot going on in that one. All of a sudden he's like, I have a bee in my pocket.

And he's like, it's like a real, it may as well be Tom Cruise flying that helicopter through the mountains when you compare it to what happens on a normal, very serene episode of Paging Mr. Morrow. But we love watching his videos.

So that's The biggest sharing TV show I think we have right now That's what we're watching a lot of A man who lost his hat and Had a run in with a bee It's so calming He's just a delight He is a delight

He just seems like a very nice man Enjoying Disney parks None of the cynicism jokes that we try to do. Yeah. I got enough of that from me. Yeah. It's a pure, he has a pure love.

It's like Duffy and Shelly Mays love. It's pure. It is. It is. He is pure. I just pulled up his channel and I realized Jane and I also watch this guy. You didn't know how we talked about this. How have we not talked about this?

Yeah. Oh, he's the best She was a lot And I catch it Sometimes Well you gotta see the one With the bee Jason

Yeah look it's That's like the Breaking Bad with Hank In the parking lot And the twins That's like What's gonna happen With this bee

And there's a cliffhanger With the hat You don't know if he gets His hat back But spoiler alert He does get it back Oh good So yes

If you like a peaceful But like days later I think I think so yeah they had the right to be shut down episode so i think that's a common practice on most rides where like once it's shut down they can go through and get all the different hats on tar of terror so he's lost a few hats though yes it's gonna happen you're destined to be you're gonna be friends with mr morrow as soon as this episode comes out i think i think we've been on we've been on a uh defunct land charity stream with on the same bill as him before i didn't even realize it so we have we've been on the same bill which is like marquee we

have like our oh man this is like love and the doors together it's like it was like woodstock yeah yeah i was like if i was rich i would fly mr morrow out here just to go to disneyland with him yeah so one that's the dream one of these days um but it is like our degrees of separation our kevin bacon game you know if you're doing your theme park media kevin bacon you know how many degrees we were like one it's not even i was gonna say it's sort of weird to even talk about it on this podcast because of how quickly this may get to him. Sure.

Yeah. But we are legit fans. Yeah. True fans. Yeah. So yeah, that's, that's our theme park things that we, that we share lately. I fucking cried watching his video talking about why he vlogs and his vlogging journey. Yeah. So episode vocabulary so far,

Beverly, Dragula, Paging Mr. Morrow. So just like, we'll just have a glossary. We've done- Add anything else to the list that you, the listener, need to look up. 14 minutes, no topic, real mention yet. That's pretty good. So yeah, you have a lot of pre-

Well, that's what the warnings are for. Of course. So that we have said it technically. That is part of it, and it's been said. But there's still another perhaps brief tangent that needs to occur, because today we're talking about the Tower of Terror, the Tokyo version specifically, which is not the Twilight Zone. It is certainly not Guardians Mission Breakout. It's its own wonderful thing, and I'm excited to talk about it. But part of why we're doing this now and this year and with Lindsay is that there was a problem last year.

Yes, yes, yes. This is so mean. Seemingly, like, well in the past, you had requested to do the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror. This is true. Before Mr. Morrow lost his hat on it. You were passionate about it for other reasons somehow. Yes, for many other reasons. Well, I'm a huge Twilight Zone fan.

And the first time I went on Tower of Terror, I went when I was 14 with friends and had a nervous breakdown on it. Oh, Jesus. Which was extremely embarrassing. To what degree? what's a thing that happened screaming for my mom because i was so scared in the state or uh okay nope this was in florida in 1996 my mother was in san diego this was a school trip i was with my peers Was so sure that My soul was about to be stolen Out of my body

That I truly had a nervous breakdown And began to scream Wait I'm sorry Completely irrationally It was not so much about the The ride up and down But more about you thought Your soul was going

I had a real problem with the supernatural as a child Oh whoa The ride up and down, but more about you thought that your soul was going to like the narrative thing? I had a real problem with the supernatural as a child. Oh, whoa. Yeah. Wow. Like truly I would have panic attacks. After I saw it, I wouldn't shower without somebody else in the room for three years. For three years?

Mm-hmm. Oh my God. From the ages of 10 to 13. So somebody had to just like face away chill in the bathroom, sit on the toilet. I would literally have a panic attack. Wow. Like couldn't breathe, couldn't stay in the shower, would

like start crying. I was deathly afraid of showers after I saw the original Psycho and would like double check to make sure the bathroom door was locked and like peek out for like, yeah, and this went on for a while.

What do you think age-wise? Huh? What age do you think it started? 12. Stopped at 12? 12, 13. Well, that's about when I saw it. Oh, it started then.

Yeah, it started then. Oh, okay. Okay, well, that's not, because yeah, you were what, like 14, did you say? I was, well, when I was afraid of it and somebody had to just like hang out and read in the bathroom while I showered, I was like 10 to 13. And the Tower of Terror though was- Tower of Terror, I was 14.

Okay. Too old. Sure, yeah, yeah. Too old to be happening. I'm sure I have something like that though, but I can't think of it off the top of my head. Look, I was afraid of the ride. I was afraid of going on the ride because of what it did. I think the fact that you bought into the story is...

Against my will. It was like, I know that I'm fine. It's fine. And then, yet, somehow the ride started and I started to scream for my mom. I want off this ride. I want my mom. Fully screaming, crying. And then the ride happened and we get off the ride and I was like, that was so fun.

Let's go again, everyone. I'm normal. Everything's fine. I can play it cool. One of my favorite rides. Still in the range to play it cool. One of my favorite rides. Yeah.

Hey, we're all still going to talk to me in San Diego, right? Yeah. You guys are going to commend me for my emotional vulnerability, right? Yeah. We're definitely doing that, right? As 14-year-olds in 1996, this is a conversation that's been had and we're cool with. No. Did you go on again that trip or no?

Do you remember? I don't remember I know I genuinely did want to Because I thought it was fun I've never really been afraid of roller coasters Except for kind of later in life When sometimes I'll get afraid that I'm having a premonition It's going to break down

That has really been terrifying for me Because we'll be on a credit coaster And you'll just turn to me and go I just want you to know I love you and i'll go what she's done this multiple times and i go i go that's not the way to start then like five four three two one and i go no what yes like very seriously put a hand on his knee or shoulder. Yeah, like the end of a movie. Hold eye contact and just say, I want you to know that I love you. Like it's Armageddon or like the movie Armageddon or something.

There's a plane that you know is going down. Yes. That's not what I want to hear on the start of a thrill ride. No. And I don't blame you, but I can't stop myself. This is also the plot of that final destination that we talked about. The one character has the premonition the roller coaster is going to go off the tracks, and it does. And then what if it does, and I didn't say I love you?

What kind of bitch would I be? Would I? But there was probably a pretty fresh I love you in the last so many hours, right? No, I've got to say it. If you have a premonition, you've got to say it. I guess that's fair. Those are the rules of psychic premonitions that have absolutely never come true for me. But if there was a fresh, how fresh is an I love you?

Is it in the last 24 hours considered it's fresh for a situation like that? Or it has to be right before, I guess. Clearly not from going off Lindsay's roots. It's like when you have the because the premonition hasn't been had for my internal emotional logic if you've had the fear that you're about to die you should say i love you i mean i get i get it i understand this makes sense no absolutely not but there is it does it make emotional sense to my the like most intensely afraid part of my brain yes i'll say this it gives another dimension to the incredible coaster

because i'm like is mr incredible's like static figure gonna fall on me is he gonna be reaching for the cookie but like his arm falls off and cuts my head off like what could happen there's real fire in the fire part yeah real ice in the ice part right jack jack like i get blown up like jack jack i turn into a giant and then i get a helicopter hits me in the head which was my my fear at 14 that tower of terror was real so yeah you might so the story of the ride is what's gonna get you oh yeah oh yeah that's true you're right it's not it's a narrative it's not a ride accident yeah well with the within credit coaster anytime now that i've become afraid of a roller coaster or a ride it has been a much more like physical

i'm afraid i'm going to die on this ride but at that incident was pure. I think this ride might literally be cursed and I'm not able to silence the fight or flight part of my brain that thinks this. Wow. My, my question is, um, because I think it is a little in question in, in both the twilight zone version and the Tokyo version.

Uh, what happens to the characters? It's something about about you're right they're like souls getting trapped or getting i while i was gonna say getting disintegrated i don't think i don't know if that's true like did you what do you did you have a visualization because it might help figure out what happens to these characters oh that i'd get trapped in the ride just like they got trapped in the their spirits get trapped in the elevator to relive the moment over and over like they're stuck in this purgatory that's that with harrison

hightower in this ride it seems to be like the moment that he fell yeah uh and was cursed by the idol like so so you something like that like this is just gonna keep happening to you that i would just like live in the ride forever. And they would add, there's the movie star and the little girl and then 1996 era Lindsay. Yes. And then height of her depression and insanity, Lindsay Keita. Wow. You'd just be added to the ride.

Wearing what clothes? Oh, a red Honey, honey i shrunk the audience shirt that i bought on that trip i don't want to unlock this door with the key of imagination um so i had said oh i want to do that episode but and that was early on yes and i completely in a haze of month, what, eight of the pandemic, just like not even in my brain. And then I was like, you're like, oh, what episode?

Because I think you were down in San, you were actually visiting your mother, and you're like, what episode? And she's like, oh, Tower of Terror. And you're like, hey. And I was like, what? Wasn't it on a Zoom with all of us? It was on, in fact, Jason's birthday Zoom.

One year ago. One year ago today. Yes, yes. And I realized on the Zoom and I got very sad. Yeah, and I didn't realize that you were actually like, how bad you felt. Lindsay was roasting me and to be funny and I can take a roast normally but for whatever reason I was just extra sad that day. I was feeling really sad.

It was all very sad. Yeah. It was much sadder in general. Yeah. I was going into like week three or visiting my mom. You were there for a while. I was alone and I totally

blanked out and then you were roasting me which was i'm sure funny and then you were like texting me you're right i'm like i'm feeling very sad right now i'm sorry which then i felt apologizing then i felt bad because i was like oh man now i'm making you feel bad for scoring innocent points on me like there was nothing like nefarious about it wasn't like anything like underhanded but then i felt bad because i was like well i'm making her feel bad about a very fun roast like it's a very fun uh you know innocuous thing to be goofing and i was like oh man and then i got sadder because of that i felt sadder because now i had made you feel bad about a fine uh goofing on.

I feel like you weren't taking it and batting it back. It was like, I don't know, Jay Leno not riffing back at Jimmy Kimmel during the 10 at 10. The 10 at 10. And then whining about it to Oprah a year later. These three little theme park boys would put in references to Jay's 10 at 10, his green card challenge, any of the different segments on the Jay Leno show, a show that's a little bit forgotten in the history of television. They seem particularly enamored, not with the Jay Leno Tonight Show, but with the Jay Leno Show, the failed experiment in 2009.

And they, of course, would eventually get into Jay's other four shows, primetime shows that he did until he was 110. What's my line? You bet your life. Jay Leno, Jay Leno, exclamation point. Jay Leno, exclamation point. You'll get to it. And for some reason, the Dean Martin show starring Jay Leno.

Very weird reboot. He bought the rights So yeah So that So that is why Now we are Trying to correct this Yes I feel as if

It's already occurred Because I was gonna say What would you like to say About the other Tower of Terror We need to give you The update Right right right

You've already said An amazing thing That you That was why I requested it Yes Yes, because it was so traumatizing. Because I read a story, because I'm a big fan of the Twilight Zone TV show, but now I got

out the whole reason I was requesting it. Right, so we've corrected a cosmic wrong. Oh, go ahead. I was just going to say the one other shot that I of course remember that you've called for a long time is that eventually MMC. Oh, yes.

Will be done on. I think we said Patreon, but who knows? Yeah. The party is what we've talked about talking about before. The party separately from MMC? I think it was specifically the party. Yes. I mean, I'm all about for once.

I am excited about subdivisions in our top. Right. Yes. When it comes to this. now I'm on board. I would gladly do full party. Especially for a Patreon. Yeah, yeah, sure. Anything goes for there.

What specific, when you say MMC, are you referring to the 90s, Mickey? No, obviously. Yeah, the 90s, because the party. I don't give a shit about the 50s one. I have nothing to say about that. Give me Britney, give me Christina. I have nothing to say about the Mickey Mouse Club. Well, Annette, I still will call my shot.

Well, eventually we'll do Annette's solo music career. Yeah. So we'll get to her. We have to do that episode. We will. We have to do that episode. But this is specifically the party. And I'm not even that big of a party head.

Lindsay and Scott are the party head. They're the ones that know the most about the party. Huge, huge, huge MMC fan. I don't know really anything specifically the party. And I'm not even that big of a party head. Lindsay and Scott are the party head. They're the ones that know the most about the party. Huge, huge, huge MMC fan. I don't know really anything about the party. I'm excited to talk about it anyway. I remember them existing. And I remember that some of the MMC broke off into the party and did music that way. And then also there was separately the MMC who did a song called Real Talk.

It's very good. That was a couple years later. So I will learn about the party. I'm excited to learn about the party. You met someone from the party, correct? Which one? Dee Dee. Dee Dee.

Because she is the voice of Pearl on Steven Universe. And I happened, the week I started Infinity Train, of course, this could probably be better saved for the party episode. I'll be fast. The week I started Infinity Train, I said, do you think that Dee Dee is just like wandering the halls? And they were like, I don't know.

She could be here to record one day. End of the week, there was a Steven Universe ice cream truck, and there she was. And I got a picture with her. It was so exciting. Wow. That's a good manifestation. Yeah.

It was a premonition in a good way. Such an amazing moment. I did a song by the party in my fourth grade talent show it was a dd song whoa you met dd and you thought you made me dd does cool things evidently dd magno hall magano hall well we'll know for the episode well yeah yeah we'll have that ready to go by then. Okay, so party coming. Extremely nice. So, yeah, we can do any towers. We haven't done a full Guardians one, but we'll talk towers specifically about Tokyo DisneySea, which is awesome. Opened in 2006, just to say a fact.

Didn't open with the park. Opened five years later. Big addition. Amazing addition. By the way, I think, yeah, all right, so we did the Twilight Zone without you, but I think this is a stellar attraction that you've been on. For sure. And I'm not going to declare this.

We talked a bit about it on the Tokyo episode. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think we tried to not blow the topic out. We saved some of it, but we did sort of a brief explanation. We also started a hashtag to get Jason a role as one of the characters on the ride. Of course. Smelding. Is it smelding or smedling?

Smelding. Smelding. Smelding. Smelding. The L before the D. Okay. So we'll get to smelding. We'll talk.

Slemding. I think it's the L before all of it. Slemding. Slimding. Slimding? Snap into a Slim Jim. to smell we'll talk slim ding i think it's the hell for all of us slim dick slim dick so we'll we'll talk about the characters um but yeah we have we've done a brief hopefully brief if we go back it's probably a half hour uh discussion about this i wouldn't it is so absolutely everything folks it's so good if we haven't said this before tokyo disney c tokyo disney itself is great but the detail like i've forgotten way more about the details of tokyo disney sea and this ride specifically then

it like there's so much stuff in the queue that you don't even notice like i think we brought it up maybe on the episode but there are just a bunch of like busty lady statues in the outdoor queue so funny i i don't so fucking funny it's really funny because the main character that they've created that looks like joe rody which is harrison hightower who's like a monster played by joe rody in the commercial and he's like the live action thing it is joe rody yeah and he's like a monster turn of the century capitalist who william randolph Hearst type. Yeah, who pillages from different peoples around the world. Takes their valuable items and brings them back to store them in this tower.

Oddly, predating the eventually Joe Rohde-guided Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout with the Collector. Yes. It's kind of a pre-Collector. He has... It's the blueprint for the collector yes and it's all that all of his stuff uh i guess the like the there's a lot of like collect he collects stuff he collects things actually i think he goes to like different places around the world like for instance the everest queue which everest is a ride he worked on and he goes and buys things from locals and then puts him in the queue and decorates that to make that feel more authentic so he's somebody i

think who ethically goes around the world takes things and brings them back and uses them for you know immersion and yeah way yeah howers and high tower is like goatee spock like mirrors mirror spock jo Joe Rohde. He does look, yes. That is a funny way to think of him. Yeah. So that's, I guess that's the goof is that it's funny that he's the opposite of Joe Rohde. And in the queue, I guess if you were, I had like some like madman who would be like, yes, put busty women.

Yeah. Busty sphinxes. And you pointed it out. I don't notice something like that. First of all, I would never. You were the one you pointed it out. I don't notice something like that, first of all. I would never. You were the one who pointed it out. Mike playing it very safe because he was finally released from the dog house. He's in the dog house after he slighted Lindsay not having her on the first Tower of Terror episode.

That is true. He couldn't be on video Zoom because it was so damn dark in that dog house for all those months. So damn dark in that dog house for all those months. So damn dark in that dog house. Yes, that is true. But yeah, no, Lindsay pointed it out. She goes, all these statues are. Like have big breasts. Yes.

And I go, that is a very ridiculous, funny detail. So you're saying this is like some funny, trashy decorating. Buy this. I'm funny trashy decorating. Buy this. I'm sorry to go there. But this like this New York socialite who's kind of a shithead. Sure. Colin Iser. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But you're saying specifically maybe a parallel to a modern day New York businessman shithead. I don't say his name. Yeah, don't say his name. I say TR asterisk M and then one more asterisk. I give it say his name. Yeah, don't say his name. I say T-R-asterisk-M and then one more asterisk. I give it two. Yeah. It would be more appropriate if it was like a golden toilet was inside the Tower of Terror. It's not quite as gaudy, the Tokyo Disney Sea Tower.

Oh, no, of course not. Well, it was an era where you couldn't be as much. Harrison had excellent taste, but also clearly had his preference with the ladies. Sure, yeah. And then leaving the ride

as well, just... I read about, I saw these pictures. This was so funny to me, the gift shop. Fucking ridiculous. When you leave, it's like,. It was so funny to me, the gift shop. It's also fucking ridiculous. When you leave, it's like this video I watched earlier to remind myself what the ride was like pointed out. It's like, and then when you leave, it's sort of done in the motif of this like bathhouse in New York. And I was like, oh my God, I can't believe I forgot

about the end of the ride, which is just a bunch of murals of Harrison Hightower being bathed by different women of different cultures like it's insane so weird getting massages in a bathing pool and like a bunch of them and being portrayed so many and it's all like done like i feel like it all falls so under like the like it's it's hard is the right place because the character dies because of his arrogance and what he's been doing for sure yeah so it's like making fun of this type of person and it does it down to the detail like down to the very small details uh and yeah you like stuff that i don't even know like the stuff that's probably not even mentioned online. Cause like no one's even documented it down to looking for photos.

And like, I, I was for sure. I've forgotten so many, many good details. So they've, they have crafted. And that's like I've said on the episode,

like the detail in Disney sea in general is like, you go on, just look at plaques under like the elevated train and they've just written paragraphs and paragraphs of like jokes and explanation and like backstory for everything that's like part historical part joke and like you it's just there's i bet you would never run out of like learning some silly thing they made up for this whole place. I was like upset by how fast the line was moving. Yes. Because I wanted to be,

I wanted to look at all of this insane detail on this queue. Yeah. It's really, yeah. It really feels like, I don't have enough. I have not seen enough. And there's all these photos and like all the photos aren't online either.

I saw, I mean, maybe there if you really dig, but I found a blog of the artist Who did some of them And let me find his name here But Yeah on top of while you're looking

For that When you're in the queue talking about How he either will like buy the artifacts Or just steal them If the culture doesn't want him to have them Like he's stealing an Easter Island head and it's always him like grandly leaving followed by smelting being chased by very angry locals trying to get their,

their property back. Right. And smelting is like on the verge of death. Yeah. And smelting is always like made more danger. Obviously he's a Harrison. Yeah. The Smithers to the burns. death. Yeah, and Smelting is always in more danger. Obviously, he's Harrison. He takes the brunt. The smithers to the burns.

Right. For sure. The guy who did a lot of the paint is K. Sean Sullivan. And yeah, he did stuff like the, you know. Yeah. If you can see that. Do you want me to describe that? Yeah, it's Harrison Hightower.

And I'm not sure which country he's in, but there's three women. One's bringing him fruit. The other's bringing him fruit. And one's massaging him. He's got like a blanket over his butt. And he's like wearing whatever, you know, ceremonial headgear. He's on a massage table. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's like, yeah, made to look like an old drawing as if he was a god being. Serviced. Yeah, yeah. At the end of this disney ride rendered in the most beautiful like this is if you haven't been to to tokyo disney sea they really do they traffic in this like pre-20th century architecture and artwork it's like they cover, I'm not enough of an art historian or anything to call out styles, but you see

like just ornate paintings of every variety. It feels like the Renaissance. It feels like so many different eras. Yes. Like Sorin. Sorin Fantastic Flight, their version of Sorin was not there when I was there.

But I've watched videos since and like, God, just like the level of architecture and like how Sorin's essentially a box in California. You don't even see where you are really in Epcot. And then here it's just these beautiful grounds with beautiful paintings. And that's why I've like super encouraged people who aren't even major into theme parks. Like you have to go to Tokyo DisneySea anyway, because it's like walking around a museum that has rides. Well, it's literally that era of the United States with its architecture and its fashion and everything. It's literally called the Gilded Age. All right.

Right. Yeah. fashion and everything it's literally called the gilded age all right right yeah it is like you would i would even yeah don theme park person if they were had a decent amount of time in tokyo i would say like yeah like if you're a theme park person go to tokyo disney for sure but just go to a tokyo disney sea day one day to see what they've done to see yes just to see the theme the level of theming and because yeah it is again is, again, it's another level. It's hard for me to picture a person who wouldn't get something out of it,

even somebody who's never expressed any theme park interest or desires. Yeah, it is incredible. We fall asleep dreaming of it after you go. Yeah, true. It's emotional to leave. um this ride building specifically the the is inspired by um gothic revival architecture and moorish revival architecture which i read some uh site pointed out uh was very popular around the turn of the century and in the late 1800s as um europe and america and

like the west was pillaging africa and the middle east right see a lot of this architecture so even the architecture plays into the story of this right trolling pillager it's co-opting yeah because that's who was building at the time was a bunch of freaking colonizing tycoons right who had like all the money in the world and that's like yeah like it's so weird it's disney is insane corporation but then like joe roadie is like getting in some like historical facts and like if you really dig into it you go they're satirizing themselves in a way sure maybe they maybe don't even realize well yeah i'm sure um but yeah it's uh hold i was gonna show you there's one other photo that yeah smelding is in they're like in a hot air balloon they're stealing like that was one of my sarcophagi

uh and then like a mummy or like a mummified corpse is falling on smelding uh as harrison itower as they get away in this balloon. How much character you get out of these characters who don't really appear that. Hightower's in the pre-show in the video. Smelding is not at all. Right.

But you get what they are completely from those paintings. The other thing I want to say about the building, it's the same shape as the... This thing i want to say about the building uh it's the same same shape as the it's this thing is largely the same as the it's the t it's the tower of terror t uh largely the same especially as the newer tower the non-original tower of terror is the the and i'm one of the and the paris one however that level of architectural detail and just so many turrets and moldings and balcony, like you could just stare at individual things on it for hours and hours. I want to say this.

I think this is the most beautiful Disney building that's supposed to look like a building. I don't know if I'd say this is cooler than a volcano or cooler than any beloved fake rocks. But I think a building building. And I count the castles in that. I think this is better than any castle. Interesting. I'm going to throw that down. It is beautiful.

Yeah. It's a jaw dropper. It is really beautiful. Yeah. I might agree. Hey. I'm sorry to throw castles under the bus. I'm sorry.

I don't mean to make you. That's the only thing that kind of makes me like pause. I'm like, ooh, but a castle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was thinking about it. Like, would I, I don't know. Do I like any castle more than I like this building? Hmm, that's an interesting question.

It's certainly an era that I love. It's at the very least tied with the castle cake. At the very least it's tied, obviously. Yes. There's a storyline for the building too of that like hightower inherited the man the family mansion and then just expanded and expanded and built tower and spa and ground so this is like it is like in the way that um is it San Simeon is the Hearst property? I think that's it. I don't remember.

It's like grounds, or the Huntington Library in Pasadena, the library and gardens and stuff, used to be like an estate. And now it's like a garden. You can pay and go to the art galleries. Have you guys ever been to Hearst's Castle? I have not, actually.

I haven't either. I haven't either. That's stupid. We all live in California. Why have we not been?. I haven't either. I haven't either. That's stupid. We all live in California. Why have we not been? It's a little far. It's such a Disney-ish thing. Yeah.

You know they've, I think not just for this, but other stuff. Yeah. They for sure pulled from Hearst Castle. For sure. Yeah. What's it near? It's far, though, isn't it? It's definitely north.

Yeah. But it's not like crazy for us to have tried to visit. No, of course not. But it's big enough that there's multiple different tours. Wow. There's like an architecture tour, an art tour. There's like a handful of different tours you can take of the property. It's like six hours away.

Yeah. So next time we're up there. We're not young. Why haven't we been we've had so much time it's a good point i mean but that could be applied to so many things in life you know that's true um but just like this in particular being theme park people you would think we'd go check out first castle or like the winchester mansion i've never done somehow i've never done the winchester me neither yeah yeah well yeah i know We should feel so uncultured Well it's

I haven't done the The real spooky things Fucking hicks over here Talking about the fake ones That's what the whole thing is We're three cowards Who just want to go on A simulated version

Of everything This is all about Unpacking that Hosted by Two Two childless Cowards in their 30s And one child having cowards in their 30s and one child-having coward in his 30s. You almost got out.

I was starting to look proud like a Hightower. I see you over there. I put my chin up, but I didn't make it out of that one. Yeah, Hearst Castle, six hours. So yeah, we're never going to get up there. It's too far. It's not going to happen. So yeah, he's gathered all of these

items he's pillaged items including from i didn't know this tie-in this didn't have it that uh uh there's a oh what is it there's there's something that he steals uh from uh raging spirits which is the uh like ruins type roller coaster over near indiana jones and then did i get the name right of that right that sounds right that's the one that's the one that's the one where the employee and i think i said this on the show the employee ran up to me while we were in the queue and stopped me kind of panicked and wanted to know how tall I was. And then they had to bring me over and they kind of like, we're talking amongst themselves. And then like in my mind, begrudgingly sent me through the queue.

Like I had just hit the limit. You can't be taller than me. Wow. And I was like, Oh good. So like I was like kind of ducking the whole time on the ride. I grabbed him and I said, just so you know, I love you. Yes, and I felt much better after that. I think you had to say it there. Yeah, that's true. This is a high risk of decapitation.

But yeah, I didn't realize that tied together. That coaster opened around the same time, I think, and they made a connection where not only that, there's artwork of him stealing from those ruins, but then there's also Hightower crates in the line. So they make it one of those Disney things that they're seating and connecting the attractions. Pretty neat.

Bunch of fun nerds. Yep. Yeah. But he steals a lot from all around the world, but then he goes too far. He pushes his luck a bit too much, and he goes to an African village and takes this little idol guy, Shariki Atundu. Yes. And I think the backstory that I now have learned is that he initially is trying to find a gentlemanly way to get it, and then they say, no, this is our god.

This is very valuable. There's no amount of money. And then he just takes it. But unlike in these other scenarios where Smelding gets chased And they throw stuff at him Oh, interestingly enough In this instance

They don't seem to want it back too much They don't put up a fight They're smirking Go ahead They seem like okay with it for some reason Yeah, so go ahead. Take Shariki. And he just doesn't think anything of it.

But we learn more about this story in this pre-show room. Because it's the format of the other types of stories. Where there's the general queue. You start in a garden. You end up in the indoor lobby. You see a crashed elevator. You see a crashed elevator. Yeah, which that's very cool that

particular facet warped door yeah with columns that have cracked the whole things just caved in yeah and the premise is like the preservation society is giving you this tour and explaining what happened so they've got a backstory for it yes they've got a backstory for that too which makes a lot of sense. Like, why would you even get to be here? This is like, we already know from that, that this is a crime scene,

possibly a murder scene. So why is there even anything? And it's, it's because yeah, this preservation society has opened it to the public because they're trying to save it. It is a historical landmark, even though an evil guy lived there.

Right. Which I like that aspect of it, too, that there's all this signage that's very old timey world's fair. Like, come and see the marvelous. And they even justify that phrase Tower of Terror with little quotes. It feels like a carnival barker kind of phrase. Yes. But Miss Beatrice Rose Endicott doesn't cotton to that she's the head of the preservation society to use the verb cotton yes yeah uh so lots of good names that i had not

encountered before i didn't know her fit the head of the preservation society's name and also the reporter who in terror who like asks a question that you hear on the recording is named Manfred Strang adjacent to C I'm not going to declare them official C members but

seems like they could be a good way in Ronald D. Moore you know right could be good audience you know and hey if you want to hire four writers, you're listening to him. Well, three writers and one as smelting.

Right, right, right. Yeah, Jason Forsmeld. I'll get that going again. Listen, Ronnie, I won't just play sniveling. I will snivel my heart out in real life, too, with this. You look up sniveling in the dictionary. It's Jason Sheridan, folks.

I'm not willing to wriggle or wiggle, but you're willing to snivel. I'll snivel a little. Very darn. So, yeah, this pre-show room, it's the equivalent of the Floridaida tower terror or the form or the rocket room where you're you're divided up into a smaller group and you get a little like a little backstory but it's not the rod sterling video it's this neat little scene with a preservation society member uh press and play on an old phonograph and which like now i'm that's what's on the record is a you hear what what is this final interview okay where they the man fred strang s isn't it cursed isn't uh uh the idol uh

cursed the idol by the way apparently translates to the name of the idol translates to believe the misfortune and on the disney uh wiki uh there is a long bio there's a long history about the lineage of the idol like there is a long backstory of course they went hard with all this backstory they did not have to go that hard but they did yes well that's the young that's the youth say they were not required to go thus hardly but they did yeah uh yeah so there's like there's like a description for just the like the fast service eateries there's like a lot of like stuff i've forgotten about eating a cheap piece of pizza in Tokyo, Disney sea.

Yeah. Everything is something. Um, so, uh, yeah, he's scoffing at the idea that this curse is real, but then is it that,

uh, forgive me for not remembering the order exactly, but you're, there is a stained glass portrait of Hightower in the room the whole time and then it shatters or changes or comes to life. It comes to life and the voice

of Harrison Hightower possesses the gramophone? Is that what that's? Yeah. Oh, he talks to you somehow. If it has a little horn, it's a gramophone. Yeah, the gramophone thing. is that what that's yeah oh phonograph he talks to you somehow through what you were what is that phone yeah the gramophone thing the phonograph the awards name that you're listening to um okay and he all of a sudden you're getting his voice through that and he has come to life in the

in the stained glass the beautiful stained glass window that is kind of evocative of um beauty and the Beast opening stained glass. Oh, yeah, yeah. For sure. But it's beautiful. And, yeah, it transformed. And this is also, this is old. This still looks great from my memory in person.

Yeah. And it's like already, yeah, what, 15 years old or so? Oh, and the idol is there on the pedestal next to it. Yes, yes. And the whole time in the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Displayed Oralee on this pedestal um it is 15 years old yeah it opened september 2006 which is only five years after

this park opened again they didn't have to go that like they just rolled out a new e-ticket five years in which they had plenty of stuff yeah it's not we've We talked on the last one about the Tower of Terror, not the original so much, but in the other cases in Anaheim and Paris, it is like, we got to save this crappy park to rush this ride in. And in a lesser way. Here they do it. That's true. It's like we already had this amazing park. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't.

Yeah, exactly. Didn't need to amazing park. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't. Yeah. Exactly. Didn't need it. Didn't need to go there. Right. And it is like a clone of the ride itself, but they went the way, way extra mile. With the original story and mythology and just great art direction. It's incredible throughout. And crazy magic.

And that is really the big thing here. Right. crazy magic and that is really the big thing here right is that then you get through this you get the stained glass demonstration of what befell high tower you don't really get the details yet but you see uh this green spirit light up and go all the way to the top of the tower and then there's a shatter and then he plummets down to the bottom. Now we know what happened in the lobby. And then the idol... Well, it goes dark and a bunch of sparkly lights... Yes. Like, take its place.

This very original Tower of Terror, where all these crazy lights come from. He comes to life, smiles with these horrible piranha teeth. He's so affecting and scary and creepy. And then, yeah, sparkly lights come up, only eyes visible. And the room is only dark for a second. And when the lights come back up, the idol has disappeared. It is shocking. Yeah yeah it was such a

good it's a really good special effect that i still am not exactly sure what it is i know what it is too it is and i was borderline disappointed in how simple it is well Well, I know generally what it is, but it's still, there's more to it. How dare you, Lindsay, you idiot. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's, so it's up on this pedestal, but then it drops and it goes inside the pedestal.

It's faster than free fall. Yeah. It's like, so yeah, it basically, while that half second is dark, it shoots into the ground. Yeah. But it feels like there's some leftover light to kind of destroy quickly.

Your brain doesn't have time to even notice that. So it literally, your brain recognizes that it has appeared. Yeah. It's so instantaneous. We speculated on how they did the effect and it was all like way more complicated. Wasn't it?

Or am I thinking? No, no, no. I think we, we were trying to figure out if it was some sort way more complicated wasn't it or am i thinking no no no i think we we were trying to figure out if it was some sort of projection on a base like the back of it might have been a base that had the outline of it or something and it like gave it some dimension we were like doing all these like tricks way too much but i think yeah i think maybe there is some sort

of like your your eyes like light stays with your eyes a couple milliseconds longer. So while the darkness is there, your eyes maybe even see it lit up. So you think it's there a couple extra beats. Yeah, I think so. After it's gone. And also it's eyes being lit up within the sparkly stariness. It's like, oh, it's definitely still there.

Yeah, there's like a couple. But it's not. That must be a projection. Are the eyes separate? That's what I was going to ask. Yeah. I think the eyes that are lit up while the effect is going are not the eyes of the actual statue. Maybe. I think that that's a projection. And that hangs

for one, yeah, hangs for one extra second and completely takes your brain away from being able to recognize that the actual item has moved into the ground. Yeah. But then you say that like it drops into the pedestal, but I still have some questions. One is it looks too big to fit in that pedestal. I agree. I have not seen it do it, but that's what I've heard it is.

Yeah. But I haven't heard it from Joe Rohde, so maybe. I heard it from YouTube, which is so maybe i heard it from youtube which is notoriously reliable yeah yeah so mostly so there there's another detail too that we didn't mention with this stained glass i thought this was a really cool and it lingers for the rest of this pre-show room when that energy field field, like, appears and, like, drops in the elevator shaft on the stained glass, it cracks the bottom where the lobby is.

As if the stained glass cracked, and then it stays like that as you're leaving. Oh, like it affects the glass from the way out. Wow, wow. Yeah, as if the energy itself broke it. Yeah. And it does, it looks broken after that. Yeah, it is.

There's a bunch of other energy stuff throughout the ride. Like that you see the energy from the ground up in the penthouse, then it travels to the elevator that's drop. It's wild. Yeah. It's again, I forgot more. Watching the YouTube video even is like, feels like one eighth the experience of being there.

Yeah. If that. Because you're just in a hate, you're just like, you're not processing all this when you're there. Just like, whoa, that was cool. And then so the details aren't really hitting you. There's so much to take in.

Yeah, yeah. Now, there is a thing. You bring up like Joe Rohde and like the tricks of the here's something I was mistaken about, I think, until the behind the attraction show came out. So I'm looking at all these photos of Rohde, Imagineer playing this larger than life villainous guy. And in these scenarios where he's a god and where he's being bathed by women. And I'm like, okay, I know this is supposed to be like a shitty guy.

This is still crazy in an ego way. Oh, right. So in all this stuff, I didn't realize until behind the attraction, he didn't do this attraction. He was completely a model. And as he explains in the show,

they asked him to do one thing. They asked him to be a model and as he explains in the show they asked him to do one thing they asked him to be a mod they were going to do like a plaster cast of him for like this is going to be like this he has some weird word i don't remember what it is but it's on the outside of the building there was supposed to be one molding of this character and that was it and then suddenly like actually we're going to do some paintings and stuff. Actually, we might do a video. Actually, the ride is opening and you need to come to Japan and film commercials as an actor. You, the Imagineer, are now a Japanese actor like Schwarzenegger filming weird commercials. For like a watch. Yeah.

Yeah. He didn't do the ride? He didn't. No. I did not remember that. Didn't know that until this show. Well, it does make sense because of the collecting aspect because it does feel right yeah it feels thematically and it's

confusing because he did do guardians i was just about to say because like that's got his like classic like we probably didn't need this much of an explanation as to what's going on with the ride but thank you so much for all the hard work. Yes, it does smell like roadie. And so I just figured but I was going to say it's interesting that like before you told me that it's not his ride, I was gonna say

it doesn't have that hallmark of him. You mean that? There's the story but it's not like that was already the story. The avatar back up there's the story but it's not like like that was already the avatar back up back get the story yes yes that is what i'm saying it's not that complicated a story of what happened to harrison hightower and yet i know a hallmark of a joe rody ride is is the complicated backstory of what's going on and so i was going to say isn't that interesting that that's missing

on this ride and lo and behold it's not his ride that's why if it would have been there would have been twice as much stuff there would have been hands of course something where you had to wave your arm you have to rain your hands or they have to be scanned yes is that where there's like cg animation of the characters in this is that from tv commercials? Oh man, now I don't know I saw that, yeah we all watch this, this is called the Tower of Terror the Mystery, that is some promotional piece that

tells this backstory, that tells you Harrison Hightower and you see Smelding and you see this reporter and all this, and it is this odd Polar Express animation video game cut scene made yeah yeah it 100% looked fan made to me and but I think it's probably just a Japanese marketing campaign yeah maybe or it was like online there was a shot of something in the commercial yeah but then

there's live action yeah like you were saying there's filmed live action yeah joe roadie as harrison hightower to inner inner cut i saw it in the the review time like short uh document or youtube video that's where i saw it too yeah and i which is a solid video and does a good job of explaining it and then there's a couple other there's an attractions magazine ride through and then there's a couple other there's an attractions magazine ride through and then there's another ride through with a very literal translation a lot of the like dialogue gm or lmg rides or something like that yeah this this sour cherry the mystery video though is so strange because it yeah it it tells you the story here's what happened to him but it's

not the thing from the ride. And it's not commercials. I don't know what medium it existed in exactly. But not only is there weird video game animation, but there are live action actors as well. This is one of the strangest aesthetic choices I have ever seen. Leading especially to this part where Harrison Hightower has crashed in his lobby. Yes, 100%. I had this thought too. Where, oh my God, what happened? Let's go check.

They're reaching. And there is a, one man looks in with a lantern. What happened? And he is a CGI man. And then another man, a live action man, leans in and they are right next to each other. Where have you ever seen this idea? Made me think it was fan made or something is I was like,

Oh, a fan made a composite of a CGI waiter guy looking in a shaft and then inserted this actual actor behind himself. And so then I was wondering like, Oh, I wonder what that footage is from then. But like, no,

that was the commercial guy. I think they made it. It wondering, like, oh, I wonder what that footage is from then. But, like, no, that was the commercial guy. I think they made it. It's just, like, you've seen live-action actors and then cartoony, then with, like, Roger Rabbit or Rocky and Bullwinkle or something. I've never seen human-y characters with live-action actors. It's such a bizarre choice. I'm amazed Decker didn't make it. It's absolutely bonkers.

That is absolutely the shot that jumped out at me is the weirdest one yeah right okay i'm glad this haunted you yes i was like what am i just don't who is that guy behind who is this man i don't know and what is the choice why do you decide that some are uh who's a computer character why is the main character harrison itower computerized but then a reporter this guy staying gets a casting call somebody's somebody's playing staying and then on top of that uh all the lines the live action lines are done it's all white actors speaking japanese but dubbed over by clear like better japanese speakers so that's another strange layer just look up this

video it's so bizarre it all adds to the mystery right and there's no there's no oral history of that as far as we know no oh we're creating it right now this video adds a good little detail to the story, which is that right before his dreaded elevator trip, somebody says, what about the curse? And he says, oh, the curse. Here's what I think of it. And then Hightower takes a cigar and puts it out on the head of the idol. Oh, yeah, that is, in fact, the final straw for the idol. The reason it happens is because he puts his cigar out on its head.

One of the rules of the idol is you have to show it respect. And that's not too respectful. Right. And this is New Year's Eve, 1899. Yes. Which is also... The strike of 12. The sea connection.

There's that painting of all the sea members the idol is in the painting and that painting is supposed to be a meeting that occurred this night oh before yes before he dies because both he is there and the idol is

in the paint they're both in the painting so you're saying that all the other members of sea were there were in the building yes they were at the party they were you saying That all the other Members of C Were there Were in the building Yes They were at the party They were at the big party It seems like it was

A real rager Not the MMC party A regular party Yeah Disney party Right And they all Yeah

So this really As we talked about On the actual C episode This makes it harder For Ronald D. Moore To make all these guys The heroes Of a new show

When they're all Hanging out with this Insane colonizer thief who is disrespecting idols at the party. They're like, oh, yes, well. Well, who better to know how to write that than someone in Hollywood? Sure.

Shoulder to shoulder with villains all the time. So, yeah, it's like we've set a whole movie now already. Yeah. This could be a movie. And all rendered so wonderfully again, like just the, it's the best art directions, the best lighting. And then you're let into the, the boiler room. I don't know what they call it here. I don't know if it's still a warehouse.

It's where it is. It's already stores all the art that isn't up. and then you've got even more giant or neat that's where that's where i was like can we slow the line down i'm looking at all these tiny drawers there were so many drawers and and every different like load area had sort of a different specialty we went we were in one with just like rugs yeah and i was like oh we got the rug room but even though but that's like incredible like like tapestries yeah this is an area disney i don't think has gotten into is like the ancient art of tapestry it truly is just a beautiful place in a very traditional this isn't like we're finding some weird level to think it's neat on

it is a beautiful building in every way yeah there's a set of eyes well there are yes there's a couple different places where you can see the idol presence yeah the evil green eyes so you know you're in for it when you get into this elevator um but yeah it's a the room feels huge i don't think it's so much bigger than the regular boiler room for this but it feels massive i'm sure it's still massive but it's probably about the same exactly the same yeah yeah so because because it is taking and i was thinking maybe i don't know if this is the end of the episode it is interesting like taking a ride and taking the exact same ride and then just completely making a new, it's like if we were taking Haunted Mansion and just going, like, you

can have the exact same track, exact same thing, do whatever you want with it. Yeah. Just make it kind of scary. Sure. Yeah. Which is interesting. And then you just fucking go hog wild. It is interesting.

A billion things in it. Yeah. Like, take the pirate boat and just go like whatever you want uh make them elves just to make it an elf thing or a hobbit thing how has even more yeah backstory yeah yeah exactly it's topped yeah and even just the if you look at the outside of the building it looks like there's four elevator shafts only three of them are working the one that is not an actual functioning ride vehicle elevator shaft is the one like one of the middle ones and it's the one that can most clearly go from the penthouse to the lobby it's the one

died it crashed yeah yeah lines up with the it actually lines up with the spot at the bottom seemingly where the the elevator crashed and it lines up with the spot at the bottom, seemingly, where the elevator crashed. And it lines up with his penthouse at the top. Also, the top of the T, with these designed buildings, the top of the T is because of the massive generators on top of the elevator shafts that run the rides, that power the rides, which I always forget about. Yeah, I didn't know that. Huh, huh. Until I watched this review time video. Yeah. But it gets pretty, like, you know, then we're in familiar territory. Like, it does feel like the other towers.

Yeah, once you're sitting. Yeah, yeah. Not for me, because this was the ride oh yeah the spell for me right uh where darren was like you're you're really gonna come across the the world and then not go on this because you're afraid of the because you're afraid of the drug she's never made me do anything this she's like you have you'll be so upset if you don't and i was she's absolutely right and i did it three times ultimately but it's now why i'm able to do the other ones right i'm more if i'm afraid of the other ones i just like what's gonna remind you of tokyo which wasn't scary like at all once you did

it it was like extremely positive uh and even still like if something because i think the drop pattern is more intense on guardians but i'm like like, now that view, like now I flash to Tokyo in my mind there. It makes me so happy. Yeah. And it's a beautiful view. And it's a clone of the California Adventure one. So there is no fourth dimension room. There's no foreword.

Yeah. So they do all of the work and the time and the space they have on the original california venture um and i would say that's it's it's sad to say it that's the only part of the ride that let me down a little bit and i think we both felt the same thing i was like i'm so ready to be scared Because it felt like a whole queue is like so building, building up. And then I'm like, oh, okay. It's basically just the original California Adventure drop sequence. And I know.

But it's not as good. It's a little less intense, people say. It's because when it lifts you up in like, so rather than just dropping you, it lifts you up again and then will just like drop you a few floors. Like incrementally. And then one big drop. Yeah. And they change.

It's just not as much. Right. So we went on the regular version because they have different versions, different times of year where there are like more intense drop sequences, which is shocking. Why is that? The shadow of Sharikiiki yes and i forget what do you have the i don't it probably doesn't matter that much but there's like a couple months where there will be different more intense versions of it really yeah so we went on see a

shadow at one you see when it's dropping you see him the the idol uh ripping the cables the shadow of him ripping the elevator rocket rocket plugging in the walkman oh wow uh so yeah so they've they've upped it a little bit because i do think and i've said this probably a million times at this point guardians up the game on the actual ride itself on these towers because there's so much much going on to watch and listen to that now all the other ones feel a little empty. Because it's not... I even kind of felt that way on Tower of Terror in Florida.

That's why I went to see Aerosmith instead of going on Tower again. Went to see Aerosmith. I went to the concert. I went to see Aerosmith. I went to see my friends from Boston. I took a super stretched limo I saw Ileana Jason and Lindsay went to Tower of Terror

And I split off to go see Aerosmith And that's why Because we go on it And everything leading up to it Is great And the drop is great too It's just that I could have one more treat

It's not a party You don't even I think that you commit It's not even the name of the ride It's I went to go see Aerosmith I went to go see Aerosmith Yes All my friends

Backstage passes Backstage passes Not Rock and Roller Coaster Not Whatever it's called It is called Rock and Roller passes Not Rock and Roller Coaster Not Whatever it's called It is called Rock and Roller Coaster Rock and Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith

Starring Aerosmith There it is G-Force Records Yeah That would be even funnier If I said I went to G-Force Records I went to the studios G-Force Records

To see my friends G-Force Records headquarters Or anywhere I might go Yeah Just you know Peru Check out their gold albums And everything

Yeah My friends Steven Tyler The Edge. And Scooter Braun. Bunny Carlos. And Ringo. The ride itself, though, we have skipped some stuff.

Yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry. I mean, there's like, I mean, again, we're like, you know the drill with the Tower of Terror, probably, where you stop at floors and there's these effects. But whatever the event is exactly happening to Hightower is fantastic. Yes, yes, for sure. That event also totally lives up to everything. Yeah, I skipped ahead. I meant really, truly just the thrill part. Still going up, there's awesome visuals. Yeah, because you then see the ghost of Hightower

interacting with the idol again. You see him disrespect the idol. The idol seems still, but then after Hightower's done with and dissolves and flies off in a very Twilight Zone-y manner, then he turns to look at you and the doors close immediately.

Super creepy. Again, when I had not quite gotten over the fear, that moment was like, dang, Jesus. You were like, were you yelling for your mom, maybe? Yeah. If anyone can relate, it's this lady.

Yeah, well, you've let me know that it's, if I did. This is a safe space. I'm like playing up at the beginning you really your mommy is what you that's that's what i imagine somebody doing that huh wild anyone oh any age over 10 uh let alone 35 i of course have not written this but when i watched a couple video ride throughs the first time the idol turns and looks at you, I was just like, no! Damn! I, I, there, other people said, like, in the next scene,

like, you know, they, they do the effect from the, the California Adventure, Tower of Terror, where you see yourselves, and then it's kind of wavy and ghosty, but it's that green energy. The idol appears again. It says the idol launches at you, but I think it to me it

just looked like he kind of teleports but nothing nothing was as scary as the idol just turning yeah absolutely well another this the the idol turning and looking at you just makes me think like so another fun and idiotic fact about me is that I refuse to look in the eyes of Mara when I go on Indiana Jones. I will not do it. I have some kind of superstition about her snatching my money and luck away. I won't do it. Right. And you were, wait, did you look at the, what's the character in the Tokyo version?

Because Mara is not in the tokyo indiana jones whatever it was i wouldn't absolutely never oh it's that smallest crystal skull right yeah no you didn't oh yeah i don't know what do i not want to succeed in life no i want to succeed in life oh you know what we went in single rider on those every time so i didn't notice if you were looking at the crystal skull or not will you look uh a bottle of Dan Aykroyd's Crystal Skull vodka in the eyes? As long as it promises not to curse me. All right. I don't know.

Does it? I don't think it promises anything. It promises a premium vodka experience. Premium vodka. It promises a smooth taste. Smooth. Don't need to mix it with anything. Premium spirit.

I would like a celebrity liquor where they're a little more upfront, Smooth. Don't need to mix it with anything. Bring me some spirit. I would like a celebrity liquor where they're a little more up front, where it's like, this is dog shit, and you're going to have to mix it with juice, with tonic, with something. This is reasonably priced. This is a mixing alcohol. This is for high balls at minimum. Well, maybe that's what ours is. That's the one we're going to do.

Oh. We'll be honest about it. It's a cash grab. This is like drinking hairspray with a bunch of OJ in it. This is like, you remember Skol vodka from high school? This is just as good as that cheap thing

you got at like, or you got a guy buy you. That's the brand that Midwest people would know maybe. Skol vodka. But what's the brand that midwest uh people would know maybe skull vodka um but what's the name of our tequila buenos ninos thank you yeah so it's gonna be shit it's gonna be awful but hey we're honest but we're honest about it so you know ninos we don't lie to you. Buenos. Buenos. Buenos. Yeah. We'll learn it. It's called agreement. Of course.

I have the voice of the idol here also. Oh. I forgot to mention. It's the same voice. It's Richard Stephen Horvitz, the voice actor of Invader Zim's Jim. So that means something to people who watch that show. Congratulations to you. Horvitz, the voice actor of Invader Zim's Jim. So that means something to people who watch that show. Congratulations to you then.

Very popular cult show. I used to watch it a lot. It's a great show. Oh, you did? Yeah. I used to watch it. Nickelodeon really jerked it around. Like it moved it around on the schedule a lot. And then it, I think, picked up a cult following from like Joanne Vasquez.

It's very fun. Yeah. Well, I got to check it out then um so yeah so then you get to that standard drop profile it feels like it should be a now with all this buildup should be 30 minutes that's part of the problem is the buildup is so amazing that i think just subconsciously i didn't even really realize it i was expecting the ride itself to be really better too it should be like pirates like it should be a 15 minute yeah ride now through like hell through hell through hell itself? Question mark? Yeah. Where the vehicle gets shot up out of the roof and then caught by another encasing right. Yes.

Takes you down to the ground into another thing and it returns you to the shaft. A Disney Sea airship sucks the vehicle up. They can turn clouds into ride vehicles now. And then you ride a cloud. To a different park that you didn't know existed until that moment. All of a sudden you're at the top of the Tokyo Tower in Tokyo itself. Yes, which we explored.

Where it's VIP, not very important person, very impressive panorama. Yes, that's from our, there's a thing that looks like the eiffel tower but orange but it's like orange in tokyo called the tokyo tower that we found because we had to go to the doctor and we the doctor the doctor that was covered under whatever weird phone number we called to get uh meds uh was over by this thing we go what is this looks like the looks like the eiffel tower yeah so it's a big tourist trap and there was like a little pirates dinner theater i know we needed we needed to go to that but we i forget why we didn't i think we i think we're trying to get to something else yeah but then it closed like we shot ourselves in the foot yeah because it's like oh we got to get to this one place and try the pancakes or i feel like we made a lot of decisions in tokyo like that where we're

like there's this very cool thing right here and now but because we had already talked about doing this other thing i guess we should go do the other thing we talked about and then we'd get to the other thing we talked about and it was closed you You missed the 45 minute window when Giro makes sushi. Yes. 45 minutes a day. Should we go to this pirate sink? Yeah. So we screwed up a lot.

But yeah, anyway, so the ride happens. We did the ride twice. We did tower, I believe twice. We did one fast pass, I think,

and one full queue. Okay. Which you got to do the full queue. You do got to. And sometimes it is long because a lot of these, like the park is so popular and the big rides have pretty long lines. I don't think it was crazy. Maybe it was 50 minutes.

Like I said, I wanted it to be longer so that I could look at stuff more. Sure. You keep saying that. This is one where I, yeah, yeah it's cool i still don't i did fast pass every time and i'm glad i did because you get on the right faster i'll look at a video later just talked about the fact that the ride itself is just fine and exactly what we have here the pre-show is great i still show great. No matter how good a line is, there's nothing where I'm like, I'm going to choose to go through the line. That doesn't read to me.

Maybe, I don't know, maybe one time. I get if time is limited on vacation. Well, I just think if you're there, you should do it once so that you know what the line is. That makes sense to me. Because you miss all those murals, right? That's true. And the statues. But then I probably did like other good stuff

in the park because there's so much. Well, we were there. We did. We did how many days? I think we did four days. We did closer to what Tony Baxter said we should do. I think in the end same as Tony.

In the end, yeah. We followed his rules. So, Jason Jason you gotta go Yeah Yeah Yeah no I know We gotta go back Why haven't you gone Jason

Yeah Why haven't I gone Yeah International travel Yeah Wait well You know Everything's been very normal

With Lindsay We've been dipping into These Tokyo tracks I feel like we wanted to save them But now it's like Look we're Hey Hey It's podcast well you know now we've been very normal with lindsey we've been dipping into these tokyo tracks i feel like we wanted to save them but now it's like look we're hey hey it's podcast anyway it's uh it's just uh yeah you know it is what it is i'm gonna i will go through the full line i will for sure go to the full line i go through the full line on Men in Black Alien Attack to do the fake out Universe and You World's Bear Tag, which I think is terrific, but the Universal Express line bypasses that. Goes right past it.

Yeah. No, there's some full queues you got to do, I think. This is one of the, I'm curious the full listener opinion on this. Do you like often not do a chance to cut the line in order to do the full now there's a limit follow-up yeah it depends do you at least do the queue once right but that didn't even occur to me then like i better we'd better do the queue that did not occur to me one bit of course it all looks cool that never ever struck me. Like, I better see the detail.

I better see the busty statues. There wouldn't be. The busty statues. I didn't know about the busty statues. That's true. It's an additional joke. But also, even though we've been talking about how great this ride is for two hours, still I have zero regrets about this decision.

Is there one? The garden, the statues. Is there one cue? You literally do not know what you're missing. Is there one the garden the statues is there one cue you really do not know what you're missing is there one cue though no though you now that you've been through that you would say somebody like you got to go through it once at least um or no you would skip every like let go let's hypothetically talk about this yeah okay okay say you truly skip all the cues i mean literally you show up at that pre-show moment so like say it's indiana jones

you're in the room with the newsreel you skip that whole line it's the guardians you're in the room with rocket you skip that line so like you're saying if i if there's somebody who'd never been to the parks exactly when there was the ability to do this would yes would you was there one ride you would say you have to do the full cue? Because it's really so cool to walk through. Really? You have the ability to skip every line that fucking rules. Really? Not even the full Indiana Jones cave?

It's a theatrical experience. Some of them. It builds up the, like, you know. But I'm with a person who has, I guess we're with a guy or something. But we're saying, like, never. Never see a queue. Yeah. I'm saying like Indiana Jones, it's going to be an extra 30 minutes, but you get to walk through the long Indiana Jones queue before you get to that newsreel line.

And you see all the spikes and the things on the ground. Depends on who I'm with. The well. I think to me, if the person seems interested in it. I don't know. I like all this, but I don't know. I like all this, but I'm like, I don't know. I still like skipping a line. I want to know what this hypothetical person you're with has better to do.

Jason's mad at that person. I'd like to switch to this person. I'm a little furious at you. I do think this is a controversial opinion. I think it's controversial. You can skip every line in a part you don't do it. But we're talking. But not even walk fast through.

Literally never look at this queue. Well, this is a math. Well, I'm just saying sometimes it's like, for instance, Guardians. When you do fast pass, you don't get to walk around and see all things. But you do get a brief glimpse of everything. Because they just kind of. I'm just saying in this hypothetical scenario.'re literally just like it's like you're appearing in that pre-show room you can imagine let me let me give this to you imagine that i'm in this

hypothetical scenario and i am the person saying no we're not skipping this one i think i get kicked out of the group huh but but wouldn't who would can you imagine being on the other side of that and like sorry what we're not gonna skip the line but more recent right like rise of the resistance that doesn't count that's a whole other that doesn't count okay no because a lot of line is the you know there's a lot you're getting the pre-show before you then get to the more line. Well, the Beck, Lieutenant Beck thing is different. Yes. But I feel like, for instance, Pirates the queue, fine.

Obviously, skip that. There's nothing. Even skip the Smuggler's Run queue. Like Haunted Mansion. You wouldn't say go in the Haunted Mansion queue? There's a cool effect in there. I would say go to the elevator. Yeah, I guess that is the pre-show.

Haunted Mansion Q, you're not really missing anything. Pirate's Q, you're obviously not missing anything. Smuggler's Run, skip it. I think Indiana Jones Q, though, is worth walking through. Who gives a shit? I think, yeah, Indiana Jones. I think you have to see it. We're talking once in your life.

One time, don't skip the line. Half an hour out of your whole goddamn life, you stupid piece of shit imaginary person that Scott is for some reason friends with. I don't, none of us know why. This guy sucks. High old high tower. Scott, I don't know how us know why This guy sucks High tower I don't know how you put up with him

One time I hate him You think I like hanging out with this guy He's awful to me He slaps me around He won't let me make him stay in the queue He's who I'm choosing Millennium Falcon stay in the queue. When I get to go to Disneyland. This guy is heat who I'm choosing.

Millennium Falcon. You have to go to the queue there. You mean the... I said smuggler. Okay, the pre-show would cut. Who cares? It's all boring. That's me. I would jump to Hondo.

There's not enough. There aren't enough. All right, fine. That one, yes. No, you're right. You're right. That one that one skipped i agree with that i agree with that i would insist i might insist that we go through the full guardians to see like cosmo i think you have to do that one yeah i like cosmo a lot side cue there's nothing who cares about the sound okay okay that's fair soren you're not missing Soren, you're not missing anything. Soren, you're not missing anything.

Some of these lines I enjoy being in. I'm not saying I don't like Indiana Jones Q. But I'm saying this person can literally live and die never seeing the Indiana Jones Q. That's what we're talking about their whole life. I want you to be born and leave this earth not having seen the Indiana Jones.

Not having seen a rope and a spike. A rope and a spike. I think they're probably fine. Wow. I hate this man. I do not wish to know him. I think there's a handful.

Because he is lesser for it. How do you picture it? Does anyone see him in a, does he look like Hightower? Well, we talked about. He looks like you in a mustache. He's just. It's like fight. Is it Fight Club about, he looks like you in a mustache. He's just,

it's like fight. Is it fight club? It's fight club. Scott is talking about his like Tyler Durden. And this Tyler Durden doesn't even care about the fake out men in black ride line. Wow. This is crazy.

And maybe you can learn a little something from them. I don't want to know because he is... This is going to open up a can of worms, I think. I think we've started a new... We're in a brand new... Yeah. It is a controversial opinion to say if you had the ability to skip every line, you would do it. Forever. I think it is.

That's crazy. I think it is. For this podcast? You're a villain. You're a villain you're a villain you're choosing for this person oh you're the villain you've been shooting this poor sap this whole time and i've cut their hand and poured the lie on it and you're making them say like let's get all the lines before you pour the base on it. Think back to that first time you fought this friend, Scott. Was it really just you the whole time alone?

Flashing to every memory in the last six years. Of being friends with this person. I think we can make a list of unskippable cues for the first, like, if you've never been on it. Yes, yes, yes. Anyone come to i think middle ground here but i'm interested to see what the reaction is on the listener i know what it's can i know what it fucking is i've been in this goddamn rodeo before man but there's the one you know what i think i think is the person listening who agrees with me

who's not doesn't comment anywhere oh do you think they've been shamed? They're worried. That's the person I don't wish to know. Well, let's make a secret email address. Make yourself known and I'll fucking cancel you. Oh, no. I'm going to cancel you so fast. How about Scott?

Because I have Scott is pan at Gmail, which I've gotten a couple photos of Scott is pan that still have to be revealed eventually. But maybe Scott is right at Gmail. You can control it if you want. And a mass, it seems like it must be somebody. It's probably taken. Scott is right.

Uh, 69. There we go. At gmail.com. I'm going to do it now. You just got to make that email before you release this episode. Uh, so I'll make the G yeah.

And then if you, if you are a Scott supporter and you're worried because like the bullies in our audience. Oh, I'm not saying that they're in hiding. I'm saying that they don't even, they just listen, agree with me and don't start typing about it. Well, all right. Well, make yourself known.

Yeah. Make yourself known. Make yourself known. I wouldn't say that, but I'll say so much more aggressive than any of you three. That is true. Person could always return at any time time if they're feeling a regret. That's what we're saying, Scott. Why can't they go?

Are they going to die? No, the question is, no, you've been putting that on them. That was the question is, are you saying they should walk this earth never seeing that cue? But why do I have that power? Do I control his death as well? Because we, the gods, imbued you with that cue. But why do I have that power? Do I control his death as well? Because we, the gods, imbued you with that power. I don't think I knew it was a god. Certainly extenuating circumstances where it's like,

oh, if it's a short amount, you got half a day there. It's a couple day trip. Well, if you have some sort of parameters on the trip, sure. Yeah. And you have the teleport technology. You Yeah. And you have the teleport technology. You, of course, use the teleport technology. If we're talking a queue that you, there's a list of queues where you have to see them at least once. You can't skip it forever.

I think Indiana Jones is on that list. Yes. Yes, really number one on that list. But I also think you could ignore the list. Wow, that list. Yes. Yes, really number one on that list, but I also think you could ignore the list. That's the difference. That's the difference. There is the list. We agree it's not all Qs.

But Scott says at the end of the day, he still thinks they're all... Yeah, he says fuck the list. Like, you'll help us put it together, but you have no problem ignoring it. Yeah, I still have opinions on what would be on the list. Right, right. I still want to be involved in the list. I was hoping.

I was, you know, Pirates is out. This doesn't count. I was hoping. Boy, I didn't know we'd end up in an argument. I didn't know we'd get an argument. I didn't think so either. This is the kind of energy I bring.

It is your fault. It's your fault, yeah. I'm a little combative. You're a little rascal. I'm reactive. I swear more more That's true Teen Creeps Which you have now all been on

Much more body a podcast And congratulations On getting Scott and Mike To each read a book Thank you so much Thank you It only took All five years

Oh, smelting it I was on I read three I was on, I read three. I was going to say, I read more than they asked me to. Jason covered an entire trilogy with us, and a very big trilogy in the world. It was Fear Street. It was 99 Fear Street trilogy. He's reading one crime

novel. He's reading one of his crime novels a day at this point. That's right. Well, it's a Halloween season, so I'm reading Spooky. I'm reading Ghost Story. I'm reading this point. That's right. Yes. Well, it's a, it's a Halloween season. So I'm reading a spooky, I'm reading ghost story, the Peter Straub book. Uh,

that was the, which is the basis, uh, our, our love of old actors. It was a lot of actors. Let the movie version 1981 with like Melvin Douglas, Douglas Fairbanks,

Jr. Like it's all like these million year old guys. Sure. But how, let me ask you this. Have you listened to a really killer synthy baseline lately? No, you haven't.

And I guarantee you, Scott, I both listened to some sort of synth bass today. We all have our strengths. We all have our enthousiasms. We all have our strengths. Yeah. So that's,

I'm just saying if the podcast was about synth bass lines, synthy bass lines. Then you'd be on it all the time. Yes. Yeah. But that's maybe, yeah, that's easier to digest for some people. I will say, I'm just going to do some light roasting again. Go ahead. And I hope that Mike is in a stable enough emotional place.

We'll find out. We'll find out. You did say you had a coffee, so it's a risk. Oh, yeah. place find out we'll find out you did say you had a coffee so it's a risk but um so uh of you uh little goldilocks present um scott read a book yeah oh yeah three books mike read a goosebumps what's the difference what what's the length of a uh a goosebumps takes maybe 25 minutes like a pamphlet it's like a yeah it's like a map a horror pamphlet i need to get like hypno like a hypnotherapist needs to trick like trick me or whatever they do you probably have adhd right

you have some form of adhd i got something something's wrong like i can't read a comic book i find it very overwhelming to have to like keep track of the panels and the sure You have some form of ADHD. I got something. Something's wrong. Like, I can't read a comic book. I find it very overwhelming to have to, like, keep track of the panels and the word bubbles and the visuals. But I need a drawing. That's uncommon. But hand me Les Mis and I'll finish it on a plane ride. I need a drawing to show me what's happening. That's what is going on with me.

What does it look like? Yeah. Are there punches? Mike has patience for some things, and that is cues. Yes. Do any cue. Yes. Do your homework.

Do your cue. If it's a cue, I can handle it. If there's enough stimulation for me in a cue, but not. If there were. And if it's cue on Star Trek. Well, I can put up with his caddy business all day. I love Q. If there was a book that had the chapters written

on the walls of a queue at a theme park, that might be the best situation because I'm very comfortable in not like fidgeting around in a queue. It also comes with a lot of visuals. Yes, that's true too. So yeah, look, I'll get... We're not all visual readers. I'm trying to grow. I, that's true too. So, yeah. Look, I'll get... We're not all visual readers.

I'm trying to grow. I'm trying to get better. Don't grow too much. You can't get on Raging Spirits. Well, you can. You can. You can try.

But you're not necessarily getting old. All right. You know what? Thank you're not necessarily getting off. All right. You know what? Thank you for bringing us this energy that apparently you bring us. The dark energy. The dark energy. The Hauntcast the Fright energy. The dark.

Yes, indeed. You kicked us off right. Lindsay K. Tell you survived Hauntcast the Fright. Let's exit through the gift shop covered in ornate paintings of joe roadie getting stroked by maidens and is there anything you would like to plug uh sure check out infinity train on hbo max it is a cartoon that i wrote for and is now unfortunately over. But I highly recommend it. And also check out my podcast Teen Creeps.

On which me and my co-host Kelly Nugent review YA pulp fiction of the 80s and 90s. Right on. We have all appeared on it. Check out our website. A lot of fun. Mine was recent. So you'll find it early as you're scrolling. So check it out.

Yeah, that's the quickest one. Go check out Scott's episode if you need a quick like weigh in because you know the other person talking and if you want to hear me say book was good then go to my episode book had no photo but no pictures except for the front um as for us you can find us on all the socials at Podcast the Ride. Merch is available in our TeePublic store. If you're interested in watching CGI characters interact with real human characters inexplicably, then go to YouTube and look up Tower of Terror the Mystery, which we have no stake in. I just want that to be viewed. And for three bonus episodes every month, check out Podcast the Ride, the second gate.

Or what is it? Hauntcast the Fright, the cemetery gate at Patreon, check out Podcast the Ride, the second gate. Or what is it? Hauntcast the Fright, the cemetery gate at patreon.com slash podcast the ride. Regular URL still. Well, that'll do it. I'm going to go relax after a queue length of getting yelled at for a hypothetical scenario and a hypothetical man. I'm going to try to chill out until the episode comes out and then I get yelled at all over again. But remember, Scott is right

69 at gmail.com Speak out, Scott Nation. You're afraid of getting censored. People are out there. Your opinions are on the run from the opinion police. Then there's a place you can go. Scott is right 69 at gmail.com.

I'll reserve it as soon as I get home. Or you do it. I don't need to see them. Anyway. Okay, do that. Send your support. More scary stuff coming soon. It's going to be fun October.

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