Podcast: The Ride - Trader Sam's with Danny Jelinek

Episode Date: January 31, 2020

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Forever Dog to Tiki Bar on today's Podcast The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, a podcast about theme parks with hosts who would gladly buy a $300 leather-bound coffee table book called Letters from Short Round. I'm Scott Gairdner, joined by Jason Sheridan. I, the short round, I can't. Yeah, it's something. I mean, I would. I also would buy that book. Oh, yeah.

Come on. I say that because that's a thing that exists in this bar. Of course. It's cutting a little deep. Mike Carlson is joining in. I'm here. I would have to buy it. If it's in the parks and it's a very obscure thing, no matter what the inappropriate level is, I'd have to own it, I think. That's the way that my collector brain works.

But there's nothing, the letter itself is just from a child's brain. Right. There's nothing inappropriate about that. Sure. I understand that. Yeah. But everyone's uncomfortable with short rounds. A little bit.

Yeah. Even though Temple of Doom, my favorite of the Indiana Jones, there's still some issues maybe in the 2019 context, but we don't know. I would imagine. I haven't seen it in a minute. Yeah. Roughly two hours of issues. No, when they're in the mine cart, there's nothing weird.

There's like five minutes where everything's fine. Though I bet if you watch it, I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Maybe you're right. Oh, there's all that problematic stuff. Oh, yes. Okay. I get what you're saying. Okay. Let's ve all that problematic oh yes okay yeah you're saying okay

let's veer away from cash does a terrific job singing uh anything goes in uh mandarin cantonese uh i forget i don't know i forget i don't want to say something wrong yeah and then i will be canceled for not knowing the language yeah now i'm on edge anyway like indiana jones and traps you have to avoid with every step let's veer away from this and let's bring our let's bring our guest into it he's a he's a friend and collaborator of so many of your favorite podcast kind of people um that's accurate when you say he's he's currently a director for jimmy kim alive and previously of comedy bang bang children's hospital and l Lords of Synth. Live at the Necropolis, it's Danny Jelenic.

Hello. Hey, everyone. Hi, Danny. Welcome, Danny. I was also talking to all of you out there in podcast land. Oh, yeah. That was interesting to us. And they all said, hi, Danny, at once.

I'm just going to say one just for them right now. Okay. Hey, everyone. Glad to hear it. Okay. And that was for them. You've say one just for them right now Hey everyone Glad to hear it Okay and that was for them You've said one clearly for us I'm assuming they said Hi Danny we're good

That's why I said glad to hear it I don't know if they said those exact words But potentially But you left the correct amount of space for them to say those words And then I followed up with an incorrect response Yeah because somebody could have said like Oh I'm doing horribly Glad to hear it And then I followed up with an incorrect response. Yeah, because somebody could have said like, oh, I'm doing horribly. Glad to hear it. Not so glad to hear it.

And then you're a villain. Perfect. Just as I wanted it. Should I do one for the people who are doing well? Yeah, do one for the people who aren't doing well. Hey, everyone. Sorry to hear it. All right, great. That works really well. Except that you said, hey, everyone, and then that would have

required them to say, hi, Danny, I'm not doing so well. Yeah. They had to fill in a lot into that gap. So you did one for the people that just sort of offer up what their life is like right now. You should actually do one, maybe two, say, hi, everyone, how are you doing? And then, you know what, let's do it later. That'll be sort of supplemental. I don't know.

I just want to get it out of the way. Okay, yeah. Don't forget. Hey, everyone. How's it going out there? Glad and also sorry to hear it. So that's like if somebody has two pieces of news, one good news, one bad news. They can just pick.

I just got a new job, but my car has been totaled. So that's good for that. Or I just got a new car, but my car has been totaled so that's good for that or i just got a new car yeah but my job has been totaled this is like the dana carvey uh sketch where he's uh tom brokaw or dan rather tom brokaw tom brokaw and he's trying to well he's on vacation he's going to get all the different options yes or the possibilities out of the way if yeah a great sketch a very good sketch yeah the. If there's a way to do like glad in one ear and

sorry in another so that you can shift binaurally to whichever one was going to apply to you. There's got to be a way. This one's just for the left ear listeners. Sorry. We know what you did. We saw it. You thought you were alone, but we saw it.

You think you're ahead of us leftiers. Circling back, double check. It is Mandarin. It is Mandarin. Oh, okay. Okay. Great. Good to know.

All right. Everything has been correctly said, and we did a perfect beginning into this. Danny, thanks for being here. I'm a clunky to you all. I'm a clunky. Happy McClunky, yes, indeed. Yeah, I'm so happy you're here. We're going to recount an outing we had now a while back.

We got delayed in doing this, but maybe this is a good little memory test to recall every step of a very fun hour oh yeah this would be a good exercise yeah or a memory test how good is our memory especially when you mix drinks into it yeah mixed mixing in mixed drinks sorry it's a precarious little cocktail here um yeah we all we went down or not all of us went down mike you didn't go down i didn't go i. I forget why. Too long ago. I can't remember.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something lame and bad. Some audition that would have been bad if you got it and was bad to try to do it. Yeah, probably. I mean, whatever it was, it was a waste of time. As are all things that aren't podcasts, though, right? Yeah, that's true, I feel. For us, not you, Danny.

You do a lot of things that are not this. This is the first time you've done this. Oh, yeah things that are not this is the first time you've done this. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is the first time I've done this. Yeah. Yeah. And it'll show. It will show.

If it hasn't already. No, not at all. Yeah. Well, it's good to have you and you're like a person who like i think you i you're not a mega theme park obsessive as we are but it seems like you have a lot of appreciation for the the finer points of these but you're like i feel like you're like a a normie who does go to these places and and like them and find unique angles yeah i i feel like uh including you guys like that i know other people who have like highlighted um like the finer aspects of of a theme park and i used to appreciate the artistry

of something like cars the ride at night you know like that just yeah just like on a pure visual like wow this is beautiful looking and took a lot of work and things like that yeah yeah there's a real and i like the history of disney i like um not like uh like of the artistry the history of the artistry sure sure i'm not just like plenty of corporate intrigue as well you know what's that i said plenty of corporate intrigue in the history of the company oh yeah yeah oh yeah it's all very interesting a lot of history i don't know i just like i like being there it's fun but i don't go all that often yeah but you made it you made it to disney sea before oh yeah i did i i mean that was just like amazing and and and a totally unique experience in my opinion just just i'm sure you guys have talked about it at length and everything but

really have it's really without having done like specific episodes, just when Mike and I both came back from it, it's just like, okay, blah, talk. And then like we all had two and a half hours of stuff to say. There's so much there. Yeah, we'll do three hours on each ride. Yeah, eventually. My favorite ride out there is the water one one what's oh yeah oh aquatopia

aquatopia i love that you came back and we're really high on aquatopia yeah you don't see anything like that anywhere else that that it's like you're gliding on water and it's an incredible ride it's such a and i didn't know what to expect like because i i guess i kind of knew the aesthetic of it but i didn't know what it was once you got on it and then it's like i don't know it's a weird little whirly gig yeah it's around it's just this little if there was no water there it would be pretty normal but yeah just adding that layer is amazing it's so odd and like beautiful to watch even if you're not on it just watching these odd little vehicles just kind of push and sweep the little thin layer of water around yeah and

you don't know which route you're gonna get on you have no idea yeah yeah oh wait of the two sides but then once you're on it you don't know what it's gonna do there's that illusion that like the wall if you like look on beyond the ride there's like a little wall and then beyond the wall you see the ocean and so like the wall is just high enough to make you like think it's like such a perfect illusion of like oh just beyond the wall like the wall's holding the ocean back basically it's like really cool yeah and that's it's around there where there's like a fake leak in the wall also like where there's water like pouring through which really makes you feel that way such a great detail if you get on the monorail

that's back behind that well so there's like a service road there's a ton behind that wall yeah but it's that infinity pool effect it's so cool so best parts of disney see that levels although it's all i was gonna say like it's all yeah how can you choose yeah yeah our friend matt mazzani just got back he just went and i saw him this morning and i got that i got that mojo from him how's it going matt hey and what if matt's ready to hear it yes great i think he might have picked up and and responded yeah developed the pattern sorry no no no uh no you did perfectly oh perfectly um yeah he has the he did he immediately like i'm going i'm gonna go back yeah he was yes yeah like that's what everyone wants quickly can i yeah. Did you guys eat in the cafeteria there by chance?

Which one? Your aquatopia? Yeah. I don't remember. Actually, I shouldn't go into this. I don't remember what I ate or where I ate. I just remember.

Do you remember any key words? I just remember the like dessert was good. Oh yeah. Sure. I had a, a Nemo colored churro in that. That sounds awesome. That was wonderful. Cause that's sort of a Nemo colored churro in that night of the woods it was wonderful because that's sort of a Nemo zone I was just going to say

I didn't realize I didn't say this in the show but now that we've there's been a little more attention to Donald Duck's seat as we call it I ate a Donald Duck seat sundae with like his little like a feet and the ice cream was like his seat the the dessert was

we're talking about his butt uh we keep yeah we have this thing this new thing that we are doing where we call it his seat and we used to have a really big seat back in the old days he still has a pretty large no but in the 30s his seat was huge was it bigger in the 30s yeah was donald's seat bigger than the 30s it was i just watched a um a donald duck uh or it was actually a mickey cartoon that donald's sort of like a woody woodpecker type in on disney plus it's a it's like this one where mickey's conducting an orchestra oh and it's an incredible incredible piece of animation um obviously it's like 30s disney whatever but but but like it but donald donald the duck as i like to call him probably was that at some point i know i couldn't help but notice the size of his seat

so even you we didn't we hadn't even talked to you about this whole seat thing us and our fans are all admiring this duck seat. Why would you call it a seat? Because we're... I forget why it came up, but we're all very... We poke around swear words in the most goody-two-shoes way. And that seemed like the least offensive way of saying rear quarters. Pine quarters.

Piney. I mean, I'm looking at, like, this is an evolution of Donald picture, but not as, like, completely on his seat, not showing his seat. Yeah, number two is jutting out more. Yeah, yes, it is. Yeah, yes, it is. And his beak is longer, too. He's got a longer beak.

This is the Donald Duck seat I was referring to. It's pretty big. If you're Google imaging at home, I'm looking at the... It's a yellow background, and it says Donald Duck, and he sort of has this look like, I'm fine with myself. It's funny that Donald, vintage Donald, I'm proud. Text me that photo of Donald's seat, and I will put it on the Twitter. I'd prefer they just Google it.

Put it in your file. Labeled DS. I'll print it out. One for social media, one for iCloud. Password protected, encrypted iCloud. What'd you Google to find that, Danny? Donald Duck's 30s seat. No, no, just Donald Duck 30s.

I believed it for a second. Somebody labeled it as such. Wow. You know, this is one of those Google things that we can affect, possibly. We had a thing a couple months ago, Danny, that we were really delighted by. Mike is a big fan

of Avatar and the Avatar experience in Florida, and he, for many episodes, has talked about when you do a journey a ride on the mighty acron and he so many times you've said that specific phrase when you feel the mighty acron and he breathes between your and uh and it and then he went once a google result a google search for mighty acron was actually done it was just mike oh wow phrase had never actually been used. It might not be in the movie. I may just have made it up.

Wow. I mean, Akron is obviously what's in the movie, but Mighty. 30s Donald and 30s Daffy both have very long bills, I feel like. They both evolved to fatter. They evolved concurrently. The way cartoon ducks evolve, the beaks shrink and the seats shrink a little. But Daffy does not have a thick seat, correct? Oh, that's a good question.

Does Daffy have a thick seat? Will you just give us a read on that? Yeah, hold on. We should look up Howard the Duck. Yeah, Daffy's seat is as well. Howard definitely does. Daffy's seat has never been big, I don't think. no point there's here's one where he's kind of sticking it out but in general like that's just his posture yeah daffy got that hank hill ass oh yeah it's a little straight down

it's not a bad seat by any means it's just that it's never been Donald's. You're now wondering what podcast have I entered into. I like it. Talking about seats for this long. Seat. Yeah, there's Donald's seat. We had some plan about seats. We had a plan about, we had a tangent in an episode about like ranking the seats, like doing a tournament of seats. And Erin listened to it, my wife Erin, and she was like, that was very funny.

Please don't actually do the seat turn okay the people demand look we've got five ranking five tournaments to do this year maybe but all right they demand it but i'm gonna get a fucking divorce if i do this two-hour seat episode i mean that seems like uh there's another issue at play if that's all it takes i'm only one seat podcast away from a divorce at any given time huh but maybe she needs to hear it first so we'll record it for two hours and then if she doesn't approve of that then we won't release it just crying like sally airy hearing uh mozart's like it's beautiful i can't be mad. It's too beautiful. Scott, I was wrong. I was wrong. He needed to do this. The world must hear this.

In fact, do another two hours. It's not long enough. You didn't investigate the seats enough. Boys talking about big theme park butts. All boy butts, though. Did you hear when Scott said butts, it actually made it real what it was? And it was too much for you. That's why seat, Danny, to illustrate what we're

talking about here, that's why seat is so important to this conversation. I think we should just do the Tournament of Seats right now. Do you have any others in your head? Do you go to another character with a seat from theme park or not? Oh, man. I mean, theme park

preferably. I'm going to not answer it. It's a very put on the spot. I just don't know. Br'er Bear, of course, Splash Mountain. Br'er Bear, yeah. Dreamfinder, a bigger fellow. I feel like no humans. No humans?

It's only animals, yeah. Not even an imaginary, a literal imaginary? Not even a fictional imaginary? How about R2-D2? Well, you... If he's all thick is the issue. Literal imaginary. Not even a fictional imaginary. R2-D2. He's all thick is the issue. He's the same amount of width. Is he Disney canon?

Yes, he is. Well, he's owned by them now. He's owned by them. Was already from the rise. He's all seat. He's all seat. Actually, I'm looking at your Rex toy. Rex, technically, his bottom part is bigger. That's true. But it's bigger all around

that's like he's got a big seat and a big uh you know a equally thick pelvis it's like a hoops girl i think it doesn't work pelvis makes me uncomfortable is there a better word for pelvis that's a little safer um pouch no no front front i guess i guess front like grill i think front is the best yeah front he's got a thick front but front uh but let's be clear front isn't your like No, no, no. It's just your front. That's all it is. Oh, no. There's another.

We got to dive in. How about front seat? Yeah. It does help explain. Yeah. But who... I don't know. You guys don't sound like you agree.

It was just a pitch. I mean... Oh, yeah. No. You don't have to be polite because I'm a guest. You can just say, no, that doesn't that's that's exactly why we have to be polite no no no don't just think of me as if i'm not here at all okay well if we do that then you won't be speaking for the rest of the episode that's fine all right that's it and you'll sit

patiently while we talk about trader sam's uh yeah we all went down to trader sam's a little bit ago that now this is a we this was this was your topic suggestion and and of course we had to do it this is a great thing to talk about for a little while did we have to go do research probably now we've all been we remember remember it well enough but how delightful it was to do research it was great it was great it's nice it's such a dark restaurant to go into in the middle of the day and yeah just pretend it's night we did it at opening yeah like to make sure that we got in because it can get a little crowded and you yeah and you can end up out on the terrace which is plenty pleasant but that's not what we're gonna talk

it's not what we wanted to talk about we want to see the never sit on the terrace don't ever do demand it's better to wait in the non-waiting area by the door yes yeah you always want the indoor experience at trader sam well if you unless you want quiet and then the terrace is usually like they have like spruced it up over the years and put an outside bar and they have some musicians though so it's not like so quiet it's nice i like it i would never say don't sit on the terrace yeah but maybe if you want the terrace go to the terrace but if you're there for sam's it's a pretty big letdown yeah i mean if you're going to see sam's and you don't do it a lot or you've never done it you got to do it inside yeah it's like immersive is chaos in the traditional like happy hour, night time. Oh yeah, you have to like stalk

seats to get. And seats, literal seats, not butts. Chairs. Chairs are not part of a tournament. This episode comes with a key. Yes. The way I say seats equals that matters.

I say them in different ways, in my head at least. You kind of glaze over it seats you don't go seats seats and the same applies for front seats as well yes when in this um context there's no front seats in the restaurant unless you turn it around and sit on it in the cool uh teacher way which is how i sat oh that's right yeah yeah you're like check this out guys guys let me show you a trick or two there's this new way to sit i don't know if you know about it it's pretty rad um we should say we should say by the way just in case you don't know so all right so there's two trader sam's

establishments one is trader sam's enchanted tiki bar which is at the disneyland hotel in anaheim and then there's trader Trader Sam's Grog Grotto, which is in the Polynesian Hotel in Disney World. Yes. The first opened May 2011. That was the Enchanted Tiki Bar. Grog Grotto came along in 2015.

And they're similar, but Grog Grotto has a lot more 20,000 leagues under the seat stuff. Under the seats. Under the seats. All right. You've upset Jason. I'm sorry, Jason.

Yeah. So they've been around for a little while. He's in the zone right now. At the Disneyland. All right. We're done with the seats part. Okay. All right.

I love throwing this out. Keep rolling. Keep rolling. You're doing fine. Back to the fucking research every fucking episode come on come on go go through the research uh so you know la home to a lot of tiki bars influenced the imagineers as they were designing all this if you want to be saying why are you saying it's so tired and beleaguered if you were excited to say all this? Oh, boy. This is always my favorite part of every episode. You're excited to say the research. You're like, LA is home to all of the things.

It's called casually, Scott. It's casually. You're staring into the corner of the wall. Anyway, keep going. God fucking damn it. He's actually mad. Sorry. No, what did you want to I mean it is like a tiki bar

and like to the size of a tiki bar too it is very intimate it doesn't hold a lot of people yeah which is a little bigger a little bit yeah but it seemed like i now i did get to go down there in florida and i walked around it but it was very super jammed in there there was no way i was going to get a seat i walked past the hostess and like whoa whoa whoa what i'm like i'm not trying to get a seat i swear i'm just going to take oh yeah for two minutes

and then i'm going to get out because it like a lot of competition for for both of these places neither of them big bars by any means they have a better system i think in florida of sitting like they have a like they're more there's a person that's on the list yeah there's a person that's in charge of the list and they will like a little bit facilitate that oh i didn't even that didn't even register to me as a difference there is no host yeah there's nobody that's why it's just no it's kind of chaos a lot of the anaheim bars are kind of chaos except like carthay circle has someone with a list and that's a little but that's yeah but this yeah for trader sam's is literally like you ask somebody they just go i don't know watch watch if someone leaves like people just like end up in a big pile at the door yes yeah which is sort of a stressful time yeah so i'd be better to be deeper in that bar if you could be we were close to the door but i didn't feel the weight of

clusters oh no i felt plenty relaxed we were there like really early yeah yeah that helps and that might be the tip if you want to make sure that you get in that you actually the tip is start drinking at 11 a.m i've i've done it once that early and i don't know if you guys had this experience but i'm sure i've said this on another episode i was working on something because i was doing a show at wonder con in a few hours so i was working at the the bar and somebody came in and the bartender went, oh, hey, his name was not Mac, but let's say, hey, Mac, how you doing? The usual? And the guy was like, yep.

And it was like 11 or noon or something. And he just pulled up and that was his usual drink. And I was like, wow, this guy's doing it right. Yep. This is how it works. If you at home want to play mac we could do that you can just ask mac right now all right right now you're mac at home i'm oh no and mike is uh and mike will play the guy who says hey mac so i'm the bartender

they're the skipper and i will do the sound of the door that you're kicking it off oh yeah you're saying okay And I will do the sound of the door Wait a minute You're kicking it off Oh yeah Hey Mac Will you have the usual today? Okay Yeah, oh do I say yes?

No, now you say it You're right, I'm sorry I fucked the whole thing up Alright, back to one Hey Mac What do you have today? The usual? You're right. I'm sorry. I fucked the whole thing up. Back to one. Hey, Mac. What do you have today? The usual? Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. No, wait, no! That was right.

They just told me some devastating news. Yes, I need my usual more than ever because That's not going to fit in that small space. My car has been totaled everyone i know was in a car accident friends and family oh sorry to hear that 19 people were the usual 19 people were in a bus to my birthday and the bus flipped i decided to come to trader sam's anyway sorry to hear that that you will you have the usual uh people really be able to make their own podcast not their own

conversation we've had so many different scenarios now yeah yeah leaving blanks is a nice that's what's great about technology yeah one of the things that's the only one there's only one is this is the first thing that's been great about technology um so uh but you know it's an odd place to be a regular because the you know the if you're really wanting the full trader sam's experience you want you're probably getting big crazy drinks that are on fire and stuff which if that's usual, it's a pretty insane usual. Also, having a laptop at that bar, they squirt water at you and stuff. Well, I didn't have a laptop that day.

I've never actually, I've had my laptop down there at plenty of the hotels, not at the bar at Trader Sam's. Probably a dangerous place to do it. I would hope they didn't squirt water at you because they can control that. That's not a thing that It's like a spray bottle. Yeah. So they're like shipwreck right on your laptop.

Yeah. Ports at the USB. They light my computer on fire. Oh, volcano. Oh no. Doing pile drivers on it. Um,

but that, Hey, that's the fun stuff though of this. If you do, if you don't know this place and you haven't been there of course it's a tiki bar of course the drinks are fun but what you really go for are these interactive drink experiences which are not triggered by every drink uh but a lot of them but you sort of have to know i mean i guess it's kind of a fun guessing game to like oh i'm

just gonna throw out a drink that sounds good to me from this menu and then some do nothing but some there's this crazy immersive show that breaks out over the whole establishment yeah it's uh it's fun it's a lot of fun yeah i like these things a lot like it'd be pot you could see going into a place like this and think and then like oh they're gonna do going to do a little thing. Is that going to be cheesy? Is that going to be like Johnny Rockets when it's somebody's birthday or something? But this is so thoroughly imagineered. And even though all of the illusions are little, it's limited to this window or that ship in the bottle. They're so cool.

It's such real imagineering and probably the only bit of real imagineering besides in the parks. We've just done many exhaustive episodes about downtown Disney, if you remember. I'm trying to forget. But none of it is really some things are cooler than others there, but none of it feels imagineered. But Trader Sam's is so imagineered. Yeah, it is something like you could. It's one of the few things Disney Was like well anybody can get into this so It's technically free

Why would we ever spend money on it but they did I guess it's for the hotel guests But well this hotel got a Big refurbishment around the time Sam's opened yeah in 2011 There used to be a Neverland pool There used to be this pool with like skull Rock and oh yeah

The the ship the pirate ship. This is what it looked like. That was cool. Yes, it seemed to be beloved, but it was only opened in 1999, that pool. Before that, this was still the marina. This was still an in-ground place you could drive small boats around yeah isn't that weird that whole area that's pools now you could like take a boat out for and a real boat whoa yeah that's not that much space really no um that's wild it feels yeah

that's that feels so like 60s 70s idea of you're on a vacation. Very strange. So they only put in like a real like kids pool area in 99 and then redid it not too long after. In 2011, which was, that's when they got the e-ticket pool. There's a monorail themed slide and then the e-ticket logo like at the bottom of the pool, all of that. And Sam's came along in 2011. And it all ties together very nicely because with that old monorail and the vintage disneyland sign now you've got a 50s 60s retro thing and then

uh trader sam's isn't specifically retro but the general idea of a tiki bar feels very 50s or even before even even 30s 40s it caught on first when soldiers were coming back from the pacific and like bringing like uh drinks and ingredients and this sort of antique culture like souvenirs and that sort of stuff so that's when it really caught on where it really required somebody to like personally bring it and like I went to this place and I found this vibe, and now I'm bringing it to you. There were people bringing back pineapples. We went to Hawaii.

We bought back pineapples. You know the thing you can only get a couple times a year or in a can? We brought it back. They're flush with them over there. There was a brief resurgence, apparently, in tiki bar popularity in the 90s. I'm assuming with the swing dancing, all of that, it feels very accompanied with that. The Cherry Poppin' Daddies brought in tiki culture again to the 90s. Same with Smuggling Pineapples, too.

And Smuggling Pineapples. You knew you can get them wherever, but the thrill of the chase. Yeah, yeah. Just something to go for. Are you a fan of tiki bars outside of this, Danny? Great question, Scott. Which you may not have an itch. Yeah, that's how I feel too.

I mean, I don't seek them out, but I'm always happy to go to one. Yeah, when I'm in one, I'm having a good time. Yeah, I like them. It wouldn't be my go-to. The closest bar to me is a Tiki bar, but it's a little bit of an exhausting vibe to do all the time. Do you want to tell everyone across the street? Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah. Or I'll just leave a blank here. I did go to a...

Say what you think I love. Scott, he lives in the Disneyland Hotel. Oh, I wish. Oh, if only. If only. I found a secret tiki bar in Las Vegas. Oh, is that the off strip thing? No, it's actually in one of the hotels.

Oh, wait, really? Which hotel? Are we not allowed to say? No, I'll say it. Why not? Nobody lives there. Not a secret anymore. Everyone probably knows about it.

Cosmopolitan Hotel. Really? Where there's like, it's right by where there's like a Hattie B's and a bunch of like food. That's secret. I've been there. I've eaten at that place. But then there's like a secret door. Oh, I do know this. I saw this and it was packed and there was no way we were going to be able to go in.

Yes, I did this last time I was in Vegas. But there's like a little secret. There's a little secret. Something about tiki bars. Yes, that's the issue with tiki bars is it's always impossible to move around in. Isn't there a little tiki bar in Clifton's Cafeteria? 100%. It's not even that little.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, upstairs. But isn't it hard to get into? It's secret. There is one in silver lake too that's like open randomly and you can smoke in it and that is tea that's tiki tea yes you can smoke like a weird it's like a fan private family owned and it was grandfathered in of like as a private

club or something and that's how you could still smoke into it. Up until last year or two years ago, I think now you cannot smoke in it. Further out in North... I don't know why I'm saying, oh, I don't smoke. I haven't smoked in a while. But I kind of like the idea of being able to smoke in one bar. They should let one bar. That's a little neat. Yeah, this one.

Yeah, this private. One bar a city. One bar per. One bar a city. But if that's a tiki bar, then it's even more. It's chaos. Yeah. I saw a list from, and it's an out-of-date list now because it was a couple years ago,

but I saw an LA Weekly list of the top tiki bars in Los Angeles. And LA Weekly is a little hip and maybe a little judgmental. So for them to put Trader Sam's as number two on this list, I was pretty impressed. I think it speaks to that. While it is the Disney five version of something, it is also legit. The drinks are good and it's sitting on there with a Tiki tea was number

four. Number one, I don't know. Purple orchid and Elsa Gundo. Oh, what is that? I didn't see that. Yeah.

I read that list to beat Don. Don, what is that? I didn't see that. Yeah, I read that list too. Don the Beachcomber is on there. Don the Beachcomber, which now is closed since that article. Oh, that's sad. Don the Beachcomber is the original. That's kind of the guy who kicked off this whole trend. There were a bunch of those around, I think. And then there was one remaining in South Bay. Tonga Hut is the oldest one in LA.

That's in Van Nu nye's deeper valley which is a fun bar but also but crowded crowded you end up on spring one crowded too yeah mike what's the chicago place uh it's got like a guy's name i is it the place i literally went to a month and a half ago it's like a it's like a fake tiki but it's like somebody figured out like how to make a big tgi fridays oh oh oh that i did not go to that one i know what you're talking about it was big in chicago when i was little at least at least to my parents like my dad talked about it all the time so he's like oh and they invented the mai tai he used to say oh which i that can't be true have been that one yeah i don't know why my dad thought, it probably was like the first time

he had ever seen a Mai Tai and my dad was like, they invented it. Just lodged in his head. Why not? Could have been that. Who knows? There's a Trader Todd's in Chicago.

Ah, the exotic South Pacific from Todd. Well, let me tie it all together and say that one of my favorite tiki bar experiences was on the island of Kauai. I was in a very stuffy hotel. We went and visited a stuffy hotel where we weren't even getting service because the hotel was being so judgy. And everybody around us was a fucking rich asshole. It was so snooty.

It was beautiful there, but we want out of there. We want a place for the people. And I looked up, is there anything fun to do around here? I think Princeville is the town. And I, and sure enough found, oh my God, you're kidding. I can go to a place called Tiki and Niki, which is a Tiki bar owned by Todd Rundgren. Wow.

Yeah. One of my favorite musicians. Wow. He has, his wife mainly runs it. Like, seems to have really. It's almost like somebody went back in time and put that there for you. Yeah. What would make Scott Gairdner happy right now?

He put it there for himself. I did it? I'm saying, like, in the future, you went, well, I need to save my younger self. I'll have Todd Rundgren open up a tiki bar. I need to plant the idea in Todd Rundgren's wife's brain. not only that but it's also like and sometimes uh you know it's a place that that some of the the kawaii locals could stop by and do a set like walter becker from steely dance what yes i don't know if that ever happened but uh anyway if you're on kawaii that place was fantastic i found out about it from an article called Aloha, It's Me.

Truly made for me. Very much made for me. Articles called that? Yes. They don't have... There's only one Todd-themed drink, which is Bang the Drum Rum. Oh. Yeah.

They went for kind of a later... But yeah, they named it after his worst song. His worst song. But one of the more well-known. The big hits. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is... It's his rock and roll part, too. his worst song his worst but one of the more well-known the big hits yeah yeah yeah what is

his rock and roll part two if you could go back in time and plant the seed in his wife's brain about a todd related drink uh what would it be well i i don't have the drink ready to go but i would love if it was called a wizard a true bar after his album a wizard of course the listeners know wizard yeah yeah his best album it's one of the top 10 albums ever made no one listens to me on this fucking rules um a drink that huh i'm out of here i might need a minute on that one oh sorry yeah i didn't mean to put you on the spot no no uh uh is that is that todd rungan's own type is it is it just a rum drink that they make there, or does he have an actual label like a Sammy Hagar of his own?

Sammy Hagar, of course, has Beach Bum Rum, which has replaced his Cabo Wabo, which he sold. He sold, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm never drinking Cabo Wabo again. What a loss. Oh, wait, I have it.

There would be a drink named after one of his other best albums, and it would have to be like a mojito, something with mint in it, so that it could be Hermit of Mint Hollow. That's great. Of course, it is Hermit of Mink Hollow, the real album. Right, right. That's really good. Thanks. It just took me a minute. I'm sorry.

So it's like, maybe you could work the word mojito in there, too. Hermit of Mint Hedo. Yeah, there you go. Spelled with a W. there, too. Hermit of Mint Hedo. Yeah, there you go. Spelled with a W. Great. All right. I'll self-close the door on Todd Rundgren Thoughts and see myself out.

For more Todd Rundgren Thoughts, stop me in person. I'll do it happily. Where were we, though? Tiki's and Todd's go together is what I'm saying. Tiki and Todd. If you're a Todd, consider know. Tiki's and Todd's go together is what I'm saying. Tiki and Todd. If you're a Todd, consider opening a Tiki bar, being at a

Tiki bar. That one's probably the easiest to do. Yeah. Just go be at one. Just go be at one. Do we know what the first trader something is? Is it VIX? Is that what it is? Yeah. I think. Who actually may have invented the Mai Tai?

Maybe. Something was invented at Trader Vic's. Not the Chicago guy? Not just the Chicago man. Not the Chicago shyster. Although, what if it is? What if... I want to know the name of it.

You know this guy. I was going to... Trader Ditka? No, no. It's not him. It's not him. It's a different one. If we're wrong and the Mai Tai was invented in Chicago,

we always say people are yelling information at us if we're wrong on this podcast. Let's do what you said and leave the space. Trader, Mai Tais weren't invented in Chicago. And that was a space where you could have yelled angrily at us. And then you could say, oh, that's where they were invented. Thanks, listener.

Oh, I guess we were wrong. Thanks, listener. But if we were right, oh, I'm glad you're agreeing. You were wrong. Dead wrong. Am I ruining your guys' podcast? I don't think so. No, no.

We do that all by ourselves. Well, and also, this is unlike the one, we did some bars during the Downtown Disney ordeal, and we used it being about bars to drink a bunch. And so this feels more coherent to me in that we're not drunk. That's where the Mai Tai was invented. Oakland? Oakland.

Oakland. Thanks for letting us read it. By Victor J. Bergeron. Is that Trader Vic? Gotta be, right? You'd have to think. Wait, Bergeron? Tom Bergeron's grandfather?

Trader Tom. Trader Tom? Dancing with the stars is Tom Bergeron? Wow. We gotta look that up. Let's look no further into it and just assume it's true. Yeah, you're right. Tom Bergeron is the heir to the Mai Tai fortune. Oh, my gosh. Do you think Tom Bergeron has any drinks that he's made up? The Tom?

Probably. The Tom. It's just whiskey. It's just whiskey and ginger. America's funniest, America's bloodiest Mary. America's bloodiest home Mary. Oh, my God. His television host, Tom Bergeron, related to Trader Vic.

Victor Bergeron is the founder of Trader Vic's and grandfather of TV host Tom Bergeron. Oh, my God. Wow. No kidding. So he doesn't have to wait for a table. He doesn't have to wait for a table in West LA. Wow.

We got to just remember to do the research. That's how he got the home videos gig. He was just. Yeah, he sent his grandpa to loosen up those ABC executives. That's a very bizarre fact. It's nice when some of the research we just save and do it live in the air because then you get the joy of all of us together going, wow. Hold on a second.

Uh-oh. Is this a lie? Is this a Snopes? I was on Tiki Central with TikiRoom.com, which is Tiki message board. What's your name on that message board? Michael Carlson. Mike the Beachcomber. Mike the Beach Carlson. people are disputing this okay

that brings me so i also saw people disputing stuff on tiki message boards when i was trying to figure out oh no because i was trying to figure out what is in trader sam's garage grotto which is the base for a lot of the drinks okay um. A lot of the drinks say it's a mix of tropical juices. Okay. It seems to be people have reverse engineered it, and it's a lot of stuff that is used as like bases in tropical drinks. It seemed to agree that it's passion fruit, orange juice, guava, that's vegan, pog. You see pog juice? Yeah. Where the word pog came from is passion fruit, orange guava uh that's big you know pog you see pog juice yeah where the word pog came from is

passion passion fruit orange guava um pineapple juice lemon juice and then possibly add-ins of this is other stuff that's in a lot of the drinks at sam's or geat and falernum these are syrups like or geat is an almond syrup uh sugar sugar. I will correct you only because I wanted to compliment that item, so I looked up the pronunciation, and it is orgeat. It's orgeat. It is, apparently. I believe so. And it's because I don't usually like the fruity stuff in these drinks,

but everything I've had with orgeat has been great. And it's some combo of orange water and almonds just got curious what it was and i like it that is like a uh like a sugar additive that uh is delightful falernum very similar uh also is a little has a bit of a bite um from ginger and lime and either cloves or allspice so you see a lot of the drinks on the Sands menu has or shot or filet or none. Nice. Yeah, all spice. I hope not. They just open a can and pour it into my drink.

Yes, I use all spice. That's why I always. Oh, wait, it's not all spice. It's old spice. Wow. Wait, oh, I thought you knew. No. Yeah, I thought you were.

No, that was not a joke. I genuinely thought it was called allspice for a second there. That's good. That was like a natural A to C. You skipped the, oh, this sounds like Old Spice, but I'll say Allspice. I skipped it by being dumb and thinking that the deodorant was actually called Allspice. Allspice is a potent spice, so it would cover up odors. You could use it, yeah.

Yeah, you could use it. A lot of people do, actually. It would probably irritate your skin if you're just rubbing all those points all over it. But the thing that is debated is we're shot in the Grog Grotto because some of the drinks have it listed separately. Their mix is called the Grog Grotto. Or Gorilla Grog, excuse me. Oh, okay, okay. Gorilla Grog is like their base fruit fruity

kind of fruit punch how hotly contested is this online oh one or two guys on a five i'm just curious if it's like a bigger trying to make it okay oh okay yeah who are who are wearing roughly identical shirts yeah everyone can agree on the fashion sense, that's for sure. But it seems like Bergeron debated. I'm doubting it. There was a lot of people who said it was true on this Tiki Room message board, and then somebody said no, and then I can't

get it backed up on another site. So I'm guessing no. That would be my guess. It's delightful to think it's true. I'd like to guess it's true. Look, I've lost my faith in Tiki Central. Open 24 hours. So stay out of these message boards, everybody. They're hotbeds and the info we can't always believe.

What have we had that we've enjoyed at this point? I don't know when the appropriate time to bring this up is but we missed out on a key feature of that bar but what is that the sinking the sinking stool yeah yes i did not know that yeah that's a real thing like it's a little prank the bartender will like deploy his or her will. They'll just push a button, and very, very, very, very, very slowly, the seat will start to sink over the course of a half hour or something, and then the person's below everybody else at the bar.

It's a great thing. If you order the shrunken head, I think that's the effect. Oh, really? I don't know if all the seats do it, though. But not all the seats do it. I don't think ours did. I don't believe it. Because I actually was like, I asked the effect. Oh, really? I don't know if all the seats do it, though. But not all the seats do it. I don't think ours did. I don't believe that. Because I actually was like, I asked the bartender secretly. I was like, can you make one of our seats go down?

And they were like, oh, you're not sitting in the right ones. Oh, it's only a specific. Oh, OK, OK. Oh, I like that you slipped in a little question. Well, I wanted it to happen. I wanted to create a moment. Yeah. Yeah. Should have to create a moment. Yeah. Should have given him a 20.

Does this change it? Yes, actually it does. If you would suggest this guy goes under the seat and just tries to move Jason's seat down with his hands. If you would suggest we shrunk in our seats without us knowing, yeah, that would have been a delight. Is that true, though? You have to order that drink?

The shrunken zombie head is certain barstools will begin lowering to the floor. That's wild. Same if you order beer, the giraffe's eyes start to glow and tiki drums and chants play. And if they're doing a bunch of beers, it will speed up the sound.

Yeah, because all of the taps are tiki heads and their eyes will glow red. Yeah, okay. We should just say all of these effects. Those are a few of them. I got Shipwreck on the Rocks.

As I said, with Orgeat, Knob Creek Whiskey, Drum and Pineapple Juice I'm sorry I'm reading the Spiced Island which is what I had in Florida I'm fucking up again I don't remember what was in the Shipwreck

on the Rocks but it was wonderful and that causes a ship in a bottle to sink which is up on the shelf behind the bartender. That's from the Adventurers Club. That bottle is one of the few props. I read an interview

with the headset decorator, and he's like, that's one of the few props we were able to claim from the Adventurers Club because so many of the other props got sent to Mystic Manor. Oh, but they're all around.

They're around. Wow. Yeah, but that bottle is original. They redid. Wow. Yeah, but that bottle is original. They redid the ship inside. They redid the footage inside. This might be a very novice question, but what do you mean exactly? What is The Adventurers?

The Adventurers Club was an interactive theatrical bar and club in Pleasure Island in Florida back in the 80s. There was an all night club. Yeah. And it was like just crazy set decoration. It was like this, but two stories tall with multiple rooms and shows and actors. And that's closed now and that stuff's just everywhere. Yeah.

They repurposed it all. They kind of, they sent a lot to Mystic Manor, which is a ride in Hong Kong. It was an early success of this Imagineer, Joe Rohde, who's associated with probably some of the more like tropical adventure kind of rides. Avatar in Florida and Animal Kingdom is him. So this was like an early thing he did insanely well. Oh, cool. He is referenced in the bar. This is the nod to Joe Rohde inside of Sam's.

Oh, there's a big like tiki head and it's kind of sloppily labeled Joe. And it has the earrings. The big earring, yeah. As part of our live show in Florida, we put on these big dangly earrings, which are what Joe Rohde wears. And so this tiki head has the big dangly earrings. That's awesome. Yeah.

Wow. And I think part of the desire to build Trader Sam's here and part of the pitch on what the vibe was going to be was let's have some of that Adventurers Club spirit. Yes. Let's have it be like a kooky, funny place. It seems like maybe there was a take early on in Imagineers developing it

where it would have been a little more stately and classy. Like a posh tiki bar. I don't even know what that looks like, but I saw that mentioned too. Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure. Maybe more in the Grand Californian vibe where that's like, yeah,

that feels very sophisticated if you're getting a drink at Grand Californian. But it was this one Imagineer, and there's a few interviews with him, Brandon Clayla, hopefully I'm saying that correctly, but he was a former jungle cruise skipper and he had just joined imagineering and found out this was happening and went and begged to be part of it like i've got the take this is me i'm a tiki guy i like i know how to make this thing the place has like a passion to it like you're like for sure there's nothing like

well not only did this guy develop the backstory uh he uh the the notes he wrote the copy of all of the notes short rounds note he came up with the drink names he developed the spiels that the cast say telling you what the place is uh he came up with the idea that this is the place where the skippers from the jungle cruise hang out during off hours. That's, that's the backstory. They aren't bartenders, they're skippers.

And this is where all the skippers go to hang out when they don't have expeditions to do. That's really cool. It's really neat. And of course, you know what we haven't said is that trader Sam is, is a character from the jungle cruise. Yeah. So that ties everything together together but then not only all that not only did this guy brandon develop all of this

and really like specifically hammer out all the details he collected every prop himself in both of them in anaheim and orlando wow anaheim is i think it's estimated at 1,600 items in it. Is it really that much? 1,600 pieces. It doesn't feel that way, but you look around and what an insane, to have the vibe of it's kooky and things are exploding off of the walls, how hard to populate that. Yeah. Yeah. And the attention to detail to individual stuff. I saw one of the interviews with that guy guy and one of the things that brought him to seemed like in his career he made a documentary about uh the fan culture around

indiana jones oh and has a big uh uh scenes have a big uh love affection for indiana jones and when they were talking about like should we put indy's hat and whip in there and he's like well that's ridiculous indy wouldn't let go of his hat and whip. So the attention to detail, they're like, but maybe he gifted Sam a whip. So that is how we square that circle of like, there's a whip in here. And it is a gift from Indiana Jones to Trader Sam. So it's not like a hard rock where you're going to get the original guitar. It's 100% authentic, all of those hard rock things

gifted from famous guitarist Axl Rose yeah Gary famously beloved guitarist yes beloved musician Gary Glitter all the Gary Glitter stuff

on the walls that's awesome though beloved musician Gary Glitter. All the Gary Glitter stuff on the walls. That's awesome, though. Yeah. That's really cool. How cool of this guy to take the initiative. The thoughtfulness of like, well, Indy would keep his whip.

Let's not get carried away. Yeah, Indy would keep his whip. But let's call the bartender skippers. Yeah, yeah. Like all the bartenders are referred to as skippers, like the Jungle Cruise guides. There's a lot of real internal logic to it.

Other Indy stuff, you've got the map of the Temple of the Forbidden Eye mere feet away in Adventureland, which is the same one that's in Indy's office in the line. I think even maybe, I forget, I think the one that had been in the line got moved over here and they put a copy in india so this one is the original map well they it seemed like they couldn't find the original map in the archives and realized it was in the ride so they duplicated it and so the one one is in the i think it's duplicates now one in the queue and the other in the bar and the original is being restored because they're like we probably shouldn't just have this sitting in the um in a bar or a line yeah um which uh and while we're talking indie maybe it's a good time to bring up the short round letter uh yeah there's a there's a letter to to trader sam uh i feel like who else

i feel like we've skipped around way too much part of the the the theming uh of this bar is that like there's there's artifacts everywhere that this that trader sam is inherited from friends all over the world that's part of this guy brandon's pitch is that he uh the Sam knows everybody everyone stopped in his bar he's visited people so he knew Jack Sparrow I like that detail that Trader Sam is hung out with Jack Sparrow this starts the precedent for like mixing different like movies and Disney park lore like because we talk about the Guardians of the Galaxy ride Tanaleer Tavan is a big Disney parks collector which I thought is funny it It doesn't quite make sense. But also like this is actually the precedent

for like Indiana Jones knows characters from the rides that aren't Indiana Jones related. Yeah. And if they were in the bar at the same time, Indiana Jones could hang out with Jack Sparrow. Did you know Tony Stark sent Sam the original code for Jarvis? I didn't know that. It's in there. It's in the bar. The code. It's in the original code for Jarvis. I didn't know that. It's in there.

It's in the bar. The code. It's in the bathroom. Oh, okay. Jarvis talks to you in the bathroom. It's only in specific stalls. You got to pick the right stall. The toilet seat opens its mouth to talk to you.

Hello. I'm Jarvis. But so he's like, he's collected letters for, you know, for an artifacts review and he got a letter from Indiana Jones' buddy from Temple of Doom,

Short Round. And the letter reads, Dr. Jones said to give this to you. He trusts you to destroy it so it not hurt him anymore. Thank you, short round. It's written in crown, too, isn't it?

Yes. Okay. In crayon? I think so, right? Yeah. It looks like. It's very scribble scroll. Or grease pencil or something.

Yeah. And this is referring to a voodoo doll of Indiana Jones. And I have this question, which is, if it's a, if Sam, he trusts you to destroy it. But if you destroyed a voodoo doll, wouldn't that hurt Indiana Jones? That would kill Indiana Jones. Yeah. I think that's why he's bequeathing it to Sam. You know how to destroy this without killing

Indiana Jones. Sam knows the ways. Sam knows the ways. There's only one way. There's one machine. It's like disposing of waste or needles. There's only one way to do it and have it be safe. Sam knows. And only Sam knows.

If you have a voodoo doll, you need to destroy. It would also stand to reason, though, that Sam then knows how to use voodoo dolls. So he could do that to anyone at any moment. He is a shrunken head salesman. Yeah, that's true. You should be careful what we say. Yeah. It's true.

Yeah, Sam is right on the line. I don't know how much longer sam is to kick around in his current work all this stuff is a little bit this stuff is a little right it'll be oh no i meant i didn't want to offend sam oh okay excuse me oh i see what you're saying you weren't you weren't talking about that we're going to stumble into no i would say honestly i was in all honesty i was treating Sam like the character he is. You were worried that if Trader Sam somehow ended up with a voodoo doll of any of us. And he's like, I don't like those guys. And we say that a drink price is unfair or that a tabletop wasn't sufficiently cleaned,

then we could all end up with needles in the chest. Yeah. Sure. I mean, we must respect Sam. We love Sam. He's great. And we also have to make sure no voodoo dolls get made of us. That's true. We'd all love action figures or plushes that look like us, but how do you prevent one from

being voodoo-ified? Well, I know a guy named Trader Todd that knows all about that type of thing, too. So maybe if Sam does something bad to us, Todd will step in. Todd can help. If he can't, then Todd Rundgren can play the guitar real good

and cheer us up. I found out I went to Lost Lake, a tiki bar in Chicago, which was fun and very crowded. This is the nature of a tiki bar. Look, they got that right. Much like a Trader Joe's parking lot.

Yes. Anywhere Trader is cursed. They're all shrunken settings. Like? This is another... There's probably some clean paragraph i could have read at the beginning but i want to make sure to say the backstory that the reason trader sam's is doing a bar at all is that he is a he is this character in the jungle cruise uh he'll give you two of his

heads for one of yours this line has been said since 1955 it's got a bunch of shrunken heads whatever technology and potionry and apothecary christy um that's the word right yes uh whatever he's trader sam is doing to make the head small also applies to mixology he also discovered via his potionions that he's a great mixologist. And that's why he decided to open a bar, but some of his recipes and trickery and drink items, perhaps his

gorilla grog, things that he collected for it, has angered the gods. Some of his methods have angered the gods and that's why those illusions happen. Right. So if the ship is sinking in the bottle or the volcano goes off,

that means that the gods are angry. Briefly for 30 seconds. Right. And they don't really hurt anybody. It's just sort of a fun show. Yes. Honestly, though, with the volcano and the shipwreck, it probably does kill hundreds of people on the island.

It's just we're so far away, it doesn't matter. That in and of itself is a voodoo situation. Yeah. Though it's a fun little allusion to us, hundreds of people are drowning. Yeah, in lava, yeah. Also, come the holiday season, that view of the volcano has snow going.

Yeah, it's fun. Snow is in the window. It's fun. Snow shoots out of the volcano. Oh, yes. They switch it over to snow? They switch it over to snow, which I found a couple days, a couple years ago. Also, the Shipwreck first generation

Tiki mugs sitting over here. A lot of Tiki, a lot of Trader Sam's stuff over on my shelf. Yes, so you can buy the mugs. They are very popular, especially like that Hatbox Ghost one. Oh, yeah. I paid premium eBay prices for those. They are very popular, especially like that Hatbox Ghost one.

Oh, yeah. And that Nautilus one. I paid premium eBay prices for those. Did you really? Wow. Maybe I should, I got a, what would you give me for this golden piranha I picked up? Yes, you got one. I know what you're talking about. I got it on a whim.

I was like, oh, people were there just to buy it and stuff. And I like i guess i'll get one i'm here it is cool i don't have that one i have um i have uh twins uh i have two boys and i've decided like when something good happens like they they win the spelling bee or whatever yeah that tie they tie together two brothers win the spelling or they or if one like let's say one of them wins the spelling bee Like The other one wins the football bee It's gonna be like a cup that they get to drink from You will save it for a special occasion

Or maybe like if they're sick It's like a sick cup If one of them wins the acting bee, the Oscars The acting bee They'll already have a trophy but are you concerned that you will your children will associate piranhas with something positive like if they then travel the world and they're like careful there's piranhas in these what they just hop on it no they're like yeah piranhas are good very cool do you know a lot of people

die from um like hippo uh get eaten by hippos because people think. They're friendly. They're friendly. Partially because of like Fantasia, I would imagine. Oh, that's a good point. But yeah, people think hippos are cute and stuff. But then so they get too close and then they get eaten. That's a real problem.

Yeah. It's a real problem. They don't think of. And I know this is a Disney podcast. So I think we should just tell everyone like hippos are dangerous. Yes. yeah it's a real problem they don't they don't think of and i know this is a disney podcast so i think we should just tell everyone like hippos hippos are dangerous yes i mean if anyone i don't think i knew i've all the disney hippos are a lot of fun yeah uh but you should also think of ravenously eating marbles yeah yeah and we're in the game hungry hungry hippos but the cartoon

on that would make you think oh they only they only eat marbles, not bones. Yeah. But bones are kind of like marbles. Marbles. Yeah. Your skull is kind of like a big marble. Marble, yeah. That's really what those hippos are.

With a brain in it. I pet a hippo once. Oh, my God. You live to tell the tale. Yeah. Wait, what'd you do? I pet like a hippo. How big was it?

Full hippo? It was a full hippo. Where? I went behind the scenes of the philadelphia zoo once and they were like oh come here he's out it's a town that's in captivity the hippo is very friendly i don't know i wouldn't trust that hippo almost like inches with away from the mouth we were like petting the hippo was licking some people. Yeah, I've read articles about how they're killing machines. Yeah.

So, gosh, the hippo must have been drugged. Oh, yeah. Oh, I think when their foodstuffs are provided for them, I think it was a rescued hippo. We're sending a mixed message here now. It was used to living in captivity. Some hippos. Some hippos who have been fed are okay.

It's been fed, there's like multiple zookeepers And like tour guides around I'm still advocating the listener not pet a hippo Yeah If the hippo's a friend of your parents Yeah Don't let the hippo pick you up from school If they're a friend of your parents

If the hippo was a crossing guard does that make it okay To go with him No it does not When is it okay to talk to a hippo a strange hippo will bite your skull off there is in uh one of my favorite details and props that i wrote down in trader sam's anaheim is a in case of hippo attack uh case i'm not sure what was in there maybe a gun and it's a case of hippo attack break glass and the glass is broken so implying some hippo attack that's happened in the bar like a hippo burst in

there one time and they never replenished the case oh it recently happened probably yeah like in the narrative of the bar it like happened an hour ago yeah possibly yeah like a hippo attack unless this is a thing like gordon ramsay would yeah possibly yeah like a hippo attack yeah unless this is a thing like gordon ramsay would yell about and like the hippo attacked 90 days ago and you haven't replaced the gun we're shutting it down everyone i've been on the g Ramsay kick lately. He loves when he gets to like, there's a drip of water on the chicken.

Shut it down. I was going to do. I love when he goes into a freezer and it's just like pouring like really scary liquids out. Just like, look at that. Look at that mush. That was next to your chicken you guys like it's good it's good mush it's perfect mush no that's fine that was from two days ago yeah it's

fine i put that in a glass we serve it to the customers yeah yeah it's delicious syrup sorry kids love it also just a quick plug for pluto pluto.tv pluto not the dog disney dog no but pluto.tv uh they have like a station where you can just watch Hell's Kitchen and Kitchen Nightmares for free. I plug Pluto. Pluto's great. I'm trying to get word out. Pluto's good.

It's wild. It's like there's so many. It fills the need of channel surfing, I feel like, because there's so many different streams and channels. Coming in the middle of something. V feel like yeah because there's so many different streams and come on come in on the middle of something vintage nickelodeon stuff like yeah there's a value to coming in on the middle of something absolutely yeah yeah yeah that's true yeah just landing on something um yeah sorry i took us way i veered us away no no sorry about that we're all plug for no no and we're and we're tangent fans. I think another theme of the decor is implied danger.

That's one of the crazier elements of it. But in the house rules, it says blow dart guns are not to be used as drinking straws. And cannibals may not serve people. And the rules are crossed off. You don't even know what the rule was. They got to some point and we can't even have that on the sign because that's just going to happen. I like this idea that

a hippo could burst in here at any minute. A cannibal could lunge up behind me and start biting my neck. I like when Disney gets macabre or like a little dark like you see that in new world in haunted mansion and adventure land i think they used to do they used to do that kind of thing more often in the 50s and 60s like like way more implied danger and this feels like a throwback it feels like maybe they got away with it because it was like less of a high profile thing. It's like, well,

this is just a bar at the hotel. We're not going to scrutinize it. It's over the kid's head. It's a bar and kids are allowed in there, but it's mainly an adult audience you're playing to. Right. So they could probably get away with a little more? Yeah. I'm guessing. Have at it. You're going to die today.

It says It should be more clever than that I guess Yeah but that's the gist That's why Brandon's the writer Now the sign that just says ask gas or grass No one rides for free I don't quite understand Why they have that one up I was just gonna say

The whole collecting Culture of the tiki mugs, they have generations of them. So, Danny, you were saying you have the golden piranha. Have they already done a new piranha? They might have. I can't remember. But they've done two generations of the hatbox ghosts. They've done... Because one, I don't think I've even paid attention to these on your mantle, Mike, that in one, his head is in his head.

Yes. And in the other, it's in the box. Yeah. Now, that's the one with the head on the head is from Disneyland. The other one is from Disney World, which is why I had to eBay it. That's really cool. And then they've done another generation of those, which are just slightly different colors and might be different material. The shipwreck one I have right there is the first generation shipwreck.'s the green barrel the green barrel that's that's the first one uh they've

done like four or five of them yeah and then that nautilus there is from trader sam's grog grotto which is first generation nautilus from like the year or two after they opened it well it's a very impressive i had no idea so such a sam's head i'm a sam's head i'm a collect i'm an exclusive collector you're in the sam's club if there was a sam's club for trader sam's i would be in involved generation that is dangerous though like for different printings or different generations of stuff like that, that can drive you mad. Yeah. I mean,

it's a collect, there's a whole secondary market for it, obviously. Like there's like, you can, I think the, the first generations are like vaguely, I don't know,

a hundred dollars now maybe. Yeah. Do you think Danny's golden piranha is going to accrue in value? It is made out of real gold. You know, I think it will accrue a little bit. I don't know that that one had so much demand for it, but I will take a look after.

I might melt it down. I don't know if it's real. I don't think it's real gold. I really like, though, when you buy one of the mugs, they take your dirty mug away and give you a clean one wrapped in a box. Also, did you write down the drink I had by chance? Well, I think it just was the golden.

Oh, is that what it was? Wait, no, no, no no no no it was like it was the was it the piranha pool maybe i i don't know it was really good though it was like drinking like a grape slushy was it a uh does it does it sound familiar strawberry vodka pineapple juice cream of coconut strawberry puree blue curacao. Oh, man. I don't know. My memory is telling me there was some kind of grape taste, but it was just very sweet and sugary and not very well. It's going for about $50 on eBay. Really?

I don't know how much I bought it for, but it wasn't $50. I don't think I bought it for $50. Probably $30. Yeah. Maybe I'll hold on to it a while longer. This could be your kid's future. You pay for college with one mug. They drink out of it their whole life, winning spelling bees,

and then I'm like, alright, now I sell it. You put away childhood things. No, you can't. You're a monster. This was my financial plan. That's the Trader Sam's mug. Why do you think I always line the bottom of it with plastic? I needed to keep it mint.

You knew this was coming. I didn't tell you to not have pins or needles near it. It can't puncture. You're drinking from your college right now. I think my go-to is usually the Krakatoa Punch, the Sailor Jerry Spiced Rum, IREXO Reserve Rum, the Sailor Jerry Spiced Rum, I-Ret XO Reserve Rum, Orge, Gorilla Grog,

and Hibiscus Grenadine. That one's good. What does that come in? What's the mug? I am not 100% sure. How many mugs do you have, Jason? Is that the taller one? I have the barrel,

the shipwreck one, and then I have one that's like clear glass. That might have been what it is. It's clear glass and it's like a tiki head with little wings on the side. But that one is very similar to ones you just find at like the 99 cent store, tiki mugs. Sure, sure. In your research, does food set anything off?

It's only drinks, right? I don't think food does. And also the menu the menu so this bar shares a kitchen with tangaroa terrace which is uh now an outdoor bar but also the quick service one of the quick service spots for the disneyland hotel and this menu changes so fucking much um that when we went down like i had like the kalua pork poutine and that was new as of like february of this year and shortly after we had been there they changed the menu again really all the kalua pork stuff is gone and now instead because they had kalua pork nachos uh and poutine and now in

its place is tonkatsu ramen pork ramen whoa and like a bowl of ramen like a bowl of ramen disney that's pretty i had i kind of want to try that i had ramen at disney last night i wasn't whoa for disney good for regular ramen fine yeah um and they have hawaii they called a hawaiian platter but it's a plate lunch you're disneyland last night and the day before well no i didn't go to disney the night before. We just were at Knott's. No, that's right. Where in LA would you put it ramen-wise?

I'm not like a ramen expert, so I couldn't give you a definitive ranking. That's fascinating, though. I would say it's like a B, B minus. I'm glad you tried it. I want to try the straighter. For Disney, though, good. Yeah, you grade on a curve. Disney getting into the pork,

I feel like I see pork belly on menus a lot now. And I think that's a thing where it's like, well, pulled pork is so easy to make in large quantities and cheap. But I do in my head go like, oh, pork belly, that's interesting. And they can charge a little more, the's interesting and they can charge a little more the perceived value they could charge a little more for it sure sure but plate lunch that's fun yeah you know i uh i also in the changing menu thing you were talking about i ordered poke which i had seen a website say you can order poke and the poke is pretty good and it wasn't on the menu but i

asked them and then they brought some out so yeah i Yep. I don't know, and it was good. I would say if you're looking for food recommendations there and you're with a group, maybe just try that poo-poo platter, which we did as well, which was just a big sampling of a bunch of stuff. Is it like fried asparagus on there? The fried long beans. I like those. Very good.

It's like a tanko-crusted long beans. Those were good. Yes, not overhyped by any blogs and stuff. And a good dipping sauce. Yeah. That aioli was really fantastic. Okay. Officially on the menu.

Pokeball officially listed. Oh, it is? Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. What else did we eat? Sliders or something? You had the burger.

You had the Hawaiian burger. Oh, yeah. That's been there for a long time. It was fine. I don't want to say- You're saying rougher maybe. I don't want to say anything about Trader Sam and Fear Hill Retaliate.

That's right. Then you're going to end up with a burger. It was kind of like cold. It came out cold, which I didn't understand. The burgers are cold! Shut it down! I wanted to shut it down like Ramsey. I feel... If you had started yelling that, people would have thought it was a tiki effect going off.

But wait, that's just a guy in the bar. Yeah, that guy's just trying to shut down the restaurant. Speaking in a British accent. He thinks he's Ramsay. He said his burger's cold. I don't know why it was cold. You put that ring of pineapple on something. And I think that cools it down.

Oh, that cooled it off. It is good if you get it fresh. It is like bacon and pineapple and cheese. It's good. I wasn't thinking that through. They should warm the pineapple up before they put it on there. Hot pineapple. Hot pineapple.

Toss it in the pan for a second. Yeah, you're right. I guess so. I think maybe that mix is why I don't do pineapple on stuff more often. You mean the cold and the hot? Yeah, I think you do have a weird temperature imbalance. It works with pickles. Oh, that's true.

Oh, you're right. But why not? Pineapples are bigger. They're bigger, yeah. You absorb more cold. You're not generally getting a really thick pickle on a burger, which doesn't sound good at all. Cold pineapple is like an ice pack.

It is. Yeah, no wonder that burger was cold. I was like, how is this even possible? You're winning this memory test because you put all this together. Oh, yeah. I couldn't remember what. I forgot we were competing. I don't think I explicitly said that, that we were competing against each other.

I just remember that I tried one of the non-alcoholic drinks, which is just the Gorilla Grog and the hibiscus syrup. And that was good. I don't remember your guys' drinks. I had like a coconut one or something. I feel like. Yeah. I forget what that one is. Well, you know, Jason, we skipped past that you're one of the things you typically get,

Krakatoa Punch. That is probably the one that triggers the coolest effect. That's the volcano. Yes. Oh, yeah. That's where the one that triggers the coolest effect. That's the volcano. Yes. Oh, yeah. That's where the volcano erupts. I love that there's little streams of lava that keep going down. There's a projected burst, which looks really cool, against the sky.

But then the volcano itself starts changing color. The lava's slithering down. And then the room turns red and flashes. And a rain projection. That is super cool. Am I crazy? Is there a drink there that's like a shared drink that triggers fireworks or something? The Aoa.

Oh, yeah. There's like a chant. They ring a bell and that is the one that causes the water spray. That is where they take out a water bottle and start spraying it real high in the room. So they see a laptop. Straight at the ports. Straight at the ports. So long for firewire.

And which is like, it's fun if you're deeper into the restaurant and you feel the rain and you don't know where it's coming from. Yeah. There's the delay of, do they just have rain sprinklers in here you don't realize till you look that it's the skipper yeah um now that if you do it in florida oh man this was the moment i was like as i said i uh in florida a couple months ago, I ate outside, but I was like, I got to go in and see what all the artifacts are. And I knew I only had a couple minutes because it was crowded and they were going to push me out of it. But literally the second I walked in, somebody had just ordered the Oa. So it was the perfect time to walk in.

And I just got my camera out because I wanted to see what happened. And it's all the things that happen in Anaheim the guy spritz and rain and my phone was intact luckily they're ringing a bell it's all really exciting lights flashing on and off and it was really fun because I was just filming and I didn't even see this until

my phone camera whipped around do it I turned around from the bar and saw the big tiki god uh oh uh which yeah it's this like amazing like huge scary that's cool uh what do you call it tiki doll what is it uh idol i don't sure yeah yeah um and it's yeah it's like as soon as i whip to it its eyes are flashing red and i gasp like oh my god i'm so happy i got the view of this room where I didn't even know it was there. Yeah. Yeah. So that is probably the coolest illusion in any of them.

I feel so lucky I got to see it. And I didn't know the history of Oa that Oa is from Enchanted Tiki Room under new management. Oh, wow. I didn't know that either Didn't know it A lot of history here for you Danny Danny looks dumbfounded Have you been to the Tiki Room? Like duh No I haven't

Wait wait wait is that with all the birds? Yeah yeah That's actually a wonderful time It is really It's like a great place to go and sit it's great little whenever you're taking the boys there that's a good little gentle yeah yeah for a while it was not so wonderful go on yeah so it has basically been the same show in disneyland forever uh but in disney world and we got to get to this as a topic at some point at disney world they

tried to liven it up for the kids and they did they changed it and they called it enchanted tiki room under new management and the main thing they did was add the big popular birds of the disney's famous 90s popular birds iago from aladdin okay and Zazu from The Lion King. They're now flush with movie cash and they are investing in a restaurant much like Todd Rundgren before them and they have bought the tiki room

and they own it now and they're way bigger than the little tiki birds. They're like creepily larger. Yes, you know those two bird characters who yell at people in different ways? Well, now they're yelling at the tiki birds for being out of touch and for not being good. Like that is the- Boring.

Boring. So it's the same show, but now with critics in the- Yeah. Basically. That's a good way to frame it. Yeah. I haven't watched it in a long time, but yeah. and that's like considered like yeah this is fine like like this is this is well you guys don't like it very much no one likes it it's gone okay because people hate when

what a funny miscalculation really but yeah to like bring 90s attitude it was a very poochy move i feel yeah uh we need some attitude in here and it was supremely annoying it was a very poochy move i feel yeah uh we need some attitude in here and it was supremely annoying it was uh sadly because it was one of the uh few uh theme park uses of phil hartman ever phil hartman was in it i forget how but there was this whole section where you know because all the tiki rooms have kind of a like a rainstorm part but in this version this character oa rises up and uh i don't remember what she did i didn't get that far right uh but this was a full animatronic and they took that animatronic and installed oh i didn't realize which uh nice with trader sam's being a thing that ties together all these mythologies i really love they took something from a universally agreed to be bad

attraction and like made it work and named like the big like crazy drink after that's great so is the original trader sam's in disney world um no it started here and they haven't as we said they haven't been around that long not even a decade uh even though it feels like it's always been there like if you were told is that ride under or whatever that show is that now under old management it's back to the old way. Yes. The sign says under original back. It does say that.

No, no, no. I reverted back to original. We heard your complaints. We're sorry. We apologize. Oddly in Japan, that same show is taken over by Stitch. And that one didn't bother me as much. Stitch is kind of awesome.

And they love Stitch in Japan. He's a rascal. He's not mean. And he doesn't show up for a long time. He's the regular Tiki Ripper. I gotta find some YouTube of these angry birds. It's really... Do you remember any other details? We gotta just do this as an episode proper.

I never saw it in person. I don't think I did. I saw it. Yeah. I was upset think I did. I saw it. Yeah. I was upset. I wanted to see my friends sing their songs. And then like Iago is. Shut up. Shut up. Don't sit.

Shut it down. Shut it down. He's saying that? Yeah. The chicken is cold. Just hating on the show you all like. Yeah. They changed the lyrics to Friend Like Me

to like, we're running this place now. It's very strange. They are aggressively ruining it. They're aggressively ruining it and they make the birds feel bad and different because Zazu's more cutting. They make the birds feel bad. Zazu's more cutting and then Iago's just so big.

But I think eventually Zazu and Iago come around, and they're like, we can have it both ways, because they then anger the gods with their hubris. This is, yeah, we got to get into this. Are they truly flush with movie cash, or is that your addition? It's like, oh, they do it pretty good. They buy it, right?

They do buy the room. I think it is that looney tunes world where they are the actors who are in the movie and now like they would like an assistant would be like telephone for you mr zazu like they i think it is that they are movie famous and have money and they're blowing it on a restaurant like they're playing themselves in the movie yeah yeah yes yeah and i here i just went to the wikipedia i mean we'll do an episode later but i can't not say jesus christ it is that there's it starts with two animatronic two two can agents one is named william and one is named Morris fuck off

this sort of 90s as a WGA member I'm walking on out of this I do not approve this show the 90s self-aware humor aged immediately compared to the 50s 60s like kind of couched body

that like couched goes over the kids head yeah which is still It's cheesy but in a forever kind of way. It's cheesy, yeah, but in like the 90s, like they may have been like, kids are gonna listen to Tiki Tiki Tiki Room

on the Walkmans. Like they may as well have said something like that at age so fast. William and Morris were voiced by Phil Hartman and Don Rickles. Oh, wow. Two greats wasted in a terrible. And they have to say dialogue about, like, I gotta go. I'm going to sign Donald Duck.

Well, I'm gonna sign the Mighty Ducks. Oh, wow. Wow, what year does this open again? Is it 97 or 98? The Mighty Ducks. 98. Oh, and they're pushing the new hockey team and stuff. And the cartoon.

Do you remember the Mighty Ducks series? That's another. We promised that as well. The Mighty Ducks wasn't a cartoon, was it? Yeah. They did a cartoon. No, no, no. They were ducks.

It was a sci-fi action adventure show about a duck world that also loves hockey. There is hockey. They all have guns. They're galactic ducks who play hockey. And it's about Anaheim. Let's see how far we can push this Mighty Ducks thing. We got a movie. We got a hockey team. Synergy. And now a really

irritating cartoon. So it was bad. We have to watch it. Is it on Disney Plus? It's on Disney Plus. I gotta watch some Mighty Ducks. I watched the Jefferson Starship theme song. Weirdly, it's about a duck world

just like Howard the Duck. That's where Howard the Duck is from. So they stole the idea of a duck planet from one of the most unpleasant films in the history of time. But now Disney owns Howard the Duck. Yeah. They own the 80s Howard?

They own the character. No, they own the Marvel character. So yeah, whoever owns... The character's in like a couple of... It's in like Guardians of the Galaxy, right? Yeah. People cheered at that. People have a lot of affection for Howard.

I'd like it if they brought back Howard. That'd be good. I think they could do it. They're doing a cartoon. They're doing a cartoon. It's a lot of affection for Howard. I'd like if they brought back Howard. That'd be good. I think they could do it. They're doing a cartoon. They're doing a cartoon. They're doing a Hulu cartoon, I think. There was like a popular run in the comics in the last few years.

Oh, yeah. Definitely had a big seat. 70s Howard the Duck like in the comics world has like... Definitely. But he's moving right up. Like just...

Yeah, yeah. But his... We've talked about that. Howard the Duck was very like... I think maybe I was moving past it because Howard the Duck is an extremely sexual film. Do you remember this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's nude ducks.

There's duck nipples. Yeah. Not for kids, basically. This is why we sanitize with that word, see. Right. Because we know how far duck sexuality can be taken. We know. We've seen it.

And that's, look, George Lucas pushed for that. They're sexualizing the ducks. He was producing the movie. Too much. There was a lot of duck froth. I know for a fact, 100%, that George Lucas himself crafted the duck breasts. No. I'm just kidding.

You lie. And when he handed over to Iger, here's my ideas for episodes seven, eight, and nine. It was a 500-page document, but most of the pages are empty. It was just one cover page that said duck tits. That's why Iger... Iger wrote about it in his book and said, you know, we respect George

and what he's added to the pop culture, but JJ wanted to go a different way. On a reverent choice. George complained to Charlie Rose about it. Because they didn't like the duck tits. And the wills. Anyway. What are we going to recover from this?

I don't know. We're all lost now there is a fun version to do howard howard the duck kind of in comics regarded as like after the big man like first uh decade or so of mad magazine marvel howard the duck was kind of marvel's like funny like character and well-received crumb inspired from kind of yeah more a pg from and also a little bit like of a lothario there's creators uh ownership issues with that too though with howard with like the creator and marvel like a little like watchmen but who is it is it steve gerber yeah oh yeah i don't know they he came back and did a new howard the duck series a few years ago but i think there's still some uh tension there.

I'm sure all those comic companies will pay everyone fairly for the characters they made. They always do. Anyway. Danny, I think they're implying something that they won't. I don't know. Yeah, that seems like a little coded. We said a sentence. Don't read into it at all.

Don't read into it at all. Don't read into it at all. Don't listen to Alan Moore. I'm skimming my notes and I'm wrapping it up. I don't have a lot left. Uh-oh. We've got it. It's on fire. They light the drink on fire.

They bring it. They light it on fire. They throw some little stuff at it that makes a fire flare up. Yeah, like pops. Right, right. Yeah, that pops. And you cannot order it alone. It is a punch bowl.

You have to have multiple people with big straws. They don't want to kill anyone. Yes. That isn't what a regular, that isn't what Mac the regular we established earlier hopefully is having. Do you have just a bunch of, I know we saw something from Up there,

like a jug or something. Do you have, I'd be really curious if you, yeah, a coin jar. Where they're collecting where they're they're collecting like they're saving up for their big trip to paradise yeah the movie is i'd be curious if they're like i know we talked about indiana jones but uh whenever i'm there i like i'm missing a lot right now i've learned a lot today i probably have other ones uh um i not to put yeah there's a newspaper that says ind Jones wanted by Honduran government.

I like that. I like the aftermath of the press. He's like wanted. There's also some, uh, there's a note from Sala. We're offering tours of our temple. I'll come back on Tuesday to get the map.

So that's like that map that he has, like Sala is going to come. Right. But at some point I would be interested to know what, and I didn't see this in looking through and, and I would be interested to know what in the narrative of the place what the date is did you come across that at all because i because usually they do place like these places in a specific time period so i would wonder if they actually have a date they probably do obviously this guy's a nerd can't be if up is in it and I mean, I bet they're thinking it's 30s, 40s primarily with the Indiana Jones, and that's what they

turn the Jungle Cruise into along with Indiana Jones. What year is Jack Sparrow happening? What year is Jack Sparrow from? Well, that would be very far back. That would be 1800, 1700?

But Jack Sparrow becomes immortal in one of them. He does. Of course, doesn't he? Yeah, sure. I feel like he becomes a ghost in one of them. He's got that Keith Richards blood transfusion. That's right. He goes to a Swedish clinic and gets a... Yeah, a hyperbaric chamber shows up. He and Quincy Jones are sitting

in a hospital room together. It is a little ethereal, a little out of time. There's letters and postcards from Adventurers Club members in it and they are always celebrating New Year's Eve of a certain year.

It might be the late 20s. Oh, Pleasure Island. Danny, when you were in Japan, did you go on the Tower of Terror there? I didn't. I screwed up. I didn't go on that. It's really different.

You made a big mistake. I skipped it. I was like, I've been on the Tower of Terror. No, you haven't. And I hadn't. I heard it was very different. I'm sorry to do this to you. I was like, I assume it's just Twilight Zone stuff.

And boy, was I wrong. I'm sorry to do this to you. I have to leave the blank space for the episodes to yell. The blank space for the listeners to yell, you fucked up, Danny. Okay. Okay. Ready? And sorry.

That's okay. I can live with that. It's better than a voodoo doll. Yeah. I'll take that over a voodoo doll. Yeah. Just verbal stings. Well, I have something to say to the listener.

I haven't thought this through at all. Yeah, just verbal stings. Well, I have something to say to the listener. Uh-oh. I haven't thought this through at all. Hey, listener. Now I'm in my car yelling at you. Oh, good. Oh, wow. That was silent to silent. I don't know what I'm saying. You know what? No, no, no.

You bested him. You bested all of those listeners. Sort of an inception type of a situation. This is why you have the good jobs. By the way, I just want to talk about this chair for one second. Yeah. Since the moment I've sat in it, I felt like I've been looking for a seatbelt. What? What do you mean?

Not literally, but there's something about this chair that makes me feel like I should have a seatbelt on. Like it's a ride or like it's on a car, like a moving car? I don't know. I mean, we should save this for after the podcast, and I hope I haven't offended my hosts. No, I think that people are going to be very interested in it because we don't really talk about the chairs where I was going to say seats. The chairs and couches we're sitting on. So I think that's actually probably an insight the listener would like to know it is the hot seat he's sitting on the guest chair which is a green chair uh it's lindsey's chair that she got from

somebody and almost got rid of it i think it's falling apart a little bit maybe that's but that might be what it is you just feel like you're jostled there's a bumpiness to it i don't think it's a ride i think it's more like a car instinct like oh i'm right do you feel like it's sinking slowly a la a stool yeah you guys are really tall right now maybe we played a little trick on you we hit this the chair shrinking button damn it yeah and you thought you had the upper hand with that car yelling trick is it jackie johnson is that from did lindsey get that from, did Lindsay get that from past guest Jackie Johnson?

I feel like she mentioned it. That might be right, yeah. I want to point out, Jackie, this chair's great, and I like this chair. There's just something about it that I feel like I'm ready to put on a seatbelt. Maybe just being on the podcast, we're coming at you with so many facts

and quips and stuff that you feel like you need a seat belt to strap yourself in from this adrenaline rush you've got yeah you need sort of that on the edge of your seat but from all of this exciting information you guys talked a lot about goofy's uh roller coaster not at all his sky school it's a great roller coaster we're a little we're scared of it it's like a scary... It's supposed to be for kids and stuff, but there's a scariness to it. It's a wild mouse. It scares me way more than any of the big ones. Yeah.

It's a great ride. You feel too naked on it. Yes. You don't have a lot to hold on to. And there's never a line you can get right on. Yeah. Because most people, I think, feel the same way we do. Yeah.

I would think because no it's never even a thought in my head when i'm there to go on it i'll go on it right before we do the eventual episode isn't that what kyle said to us like he has to convince people to you think so yeah he can't get off his full party to go on goofy skies it's an acquired taste it's a good one it's the scariest ride in the park i just like that there's no line and it's a great roller coaster that style of roller coaster is called a wild mouse because it makes you feel like you're going off the

edge at every turn because the seat turns after the wheels. So you think you're about to fall off. Yeah, it does have that feeling. I didn't know that. That's a good name for it. It used to be called Mulholland Madness and it was simulating

what it was like to be on a crazy LA road. Really? Yeah, to be like a drunk celebrity. I'm glad I brought this up. Driving over. Taking one last hell ride. Mel Gibson pre-famous police stop. It's also like the beginning of Mulholland Drive.

There's like a car crash. Spoiler. Oh, yeah. So it's kind of as close as it was like an unofficial Mulholland Drive. There's like a car crash. Spoiler. Oh, yeah. So it's kind of as close as... It was like an unofficial Mulholland Drive ride. It was like kind of a David Lynch... There's no David Lynch theme park attractions, are there? If only. There should be. No, I don't think so. Yeah, they should have

him come into Imagineering once in a while. Advise on something. Something cool. I was going to say this. I guess it starts sort of with adventurous club the whole little universe they've been building out and it goes from like this to tropical hideaway which is in disneyland and then jock lindsey's also which is a little less which ties is in indiana also in indiana jones themed yeah and that's in orlando like this little universe they've built out and continue to build out is very fun.

Will it make an appearance in the Jungle Cruise movie with the rock? I've heard people say that it will. I don't know. Specifically, I might be in the movie. I don't know. Something there's I honestly I don't know much more than just what I said now. So we'll see. But supposedly there might be some little light references to see, which is the Society of Explorers and Adventurers.

It's a whole thing. So I like that. I i don't know hopefully this movie won't ruin it basically danny there's all this stuff they're like connecting a lot of rides and even just restaurants instead they're establishing all of these figures who are like the the owners of some of the like here's the guy who owns the big thunder railroad or the tap what i was starting to say the tower of terror in japan is owned by a particular guy who like went and stole goods from tribes and stuff harrison hightower and there's a letter involving him in trader sam so they're they're building up all of this like past 30s old timey they're all rolling it into one thing it seems like there's like the trader sam's is yet another piece in them connecting all of these formerly disparate universes. Yeah, so they'll be like...

And bring Jack Sparrow into it, too. Or even like, there's an Indiana Jones. They bring in a James Garner movie called The Castaway... Castaway Cowboy. Cowboy. Yeah. Like, they're pulling weird old 50s... What's this thing called?

Castaway Cowboy. the this this project well this there's a thing called sea society of explorers so like the adventurers club was where like members of sea would get together and that was the place they get like hammered okay and then they had made up all these characters that are like the owners of rides so there's bar there's a character named barnabas t bullion who's the owner of big thunder mountain and they have references to them and all these different attractions their headquarters is at disney sea in magellan's the restaurant magellan's yeah so they've slowly built out a not cinematic universe but a whatever theme park universe and like it's just like as they were filling in details because they have to come up with all these different details to make the place feel lived in,

they just started drawing the lines between them. And it's like this guy knows this guy and this guy knows... They're all friends. So it's very fun. It's kind of an Avengers a little bit. I like it. Theme park ride owners

who are not usually featured in the rides. Yeah. And it's not... We've all been begging for it. It's also pretty subtle. ride owners who are not usually featured in the rides. We've all been begging for it. It's also pretty subtle. Only if you're a maniac who listens to the show do you care about it. If you're going through, it's not like you need to

know the name of the owner of the ride before you ride or else they won't let you. Which would be funny. You don't have to answer a quiz. There's nods to imagine years yeah yeah sorry back to the start better learn better brush up on your on your trivia uh a lot of rides have nods to imagineers we talked about joe rody being in in this um i'll call it an attraction even though it's bar um the there's banjo that says banjo lessons from h goff harvard goff was a very early

imagineer not often sometimes not mentioned but was like a very influential i think they they jokingly called him like the second imagineer walt hired the one who drew the layout of disneyland with that initial order something like that so. He also is known for designing the very first, the Glamour Trams, the first Universal Studios tour guide trams back in the 60s. The Glamour Trams. The Glamour Trams, they called them.

I missed that name. Yeah, that was what they just, the tour you said? Yeah, the tour trams, like the red ones. I wonder when they lost that name. Scott should have been on the Glamour Trams. I would have loved to. Yeah, yeah. That's much better than the Trams.

The only way to have made that job better. The perfect job. Glamour. That's the most grasses greener. I've built up that job now. That was the best time of my life. Forgotten all the shit and what was boring about it.

What could have gone wrong in the world in 2007, 2008? I really like those videos where they let John Lasseter back on the Jungle Cruise to do one more round. They should let you on the glamour tram to do one more round. I mean, I agree with that, but I cut off the first part of that. Yeah, I don't know if you needed that set up. Best comparison I could think of.

I am in a Hawaiian shirt right now. You are wearing a hawaiian shirt maybe that's why i think our hawaiian shirt's different than tiki shirts though why are you looking at me trivia go you're back to the front line of this podcast i think yes great i have nothing to back it up you have a can of pomade in your hair right now i feel like you could answer this well i don't know i don't know i mean i feel like hawaiian shirts has exploded into its own thing where anything can kind of be a you could have a bunch of hockey players on your shirt or something like oh it doesn't even have to be floral yeah i look around i see hawaiian shirts and all kind so no i guess the answer is no.

I'm just trying to maybe distance myself from Lester with that question. That was why the urgency of it. Right, right. But I think we've pulled you right back in and associated you with this question. His were more novelty shirts or like bowling shirt-y. He would have, yes, he would have like a Maider shirt. And then he would have 50 different shirts where Mater would have different outfits on the shirts. He was getting that stuff custom. He also still has those shirts.

I'm assuming he still wears those shirts. They weren't revoked. Bob Iger came to his house. Turning your badge, gun, and shirts. Oh, it's all I have. I have 400 of them. Why do you have a gun

or a badge disney gun all disney cast members have a gun oh i didn't know that nod to the old cartoons where mickey was always just pulling a gun out yeah which is not a joke it is we've talked about the gun does he did uh mickey had a gun oh yeah yeah as you've been around on Disney Plus. I bet you that's all not on there, right? Yeah, maybe the gun stuff has to go. I'm really upset that on Disney Plus

I grew up a lot watching these goofy training videos like Goofy Goes to the Beach. They're not on there, right? Goofy Goes to the Beach and Swim, whatever that one's called is on there. But the how-to aren't. There's a few. No, no, that one's called is on there. But the how-to art. There's a few. No, no. That one is a how-to. But the one that I remember

that's like seared in my memory from watching it so many times is the skiing one. Yes. And that one's not on there. There must be something in there. That's what I was looking for. There's something rights-wise or is there some like incredibly offensive like we forget that in every frame of it he was smoking a cigarette and shooting a gun.

Yeah. I think they're probably doing... Oh, goofy. He didn't know what it meant. Yeah. What were you saying, Jason? Oh, I think waves. I think they're probably doing waves of content.

Yes, they are. As people's membership year or six months are ending, then we go like, and here's a bunch of stuff to keep you around. So I bet that stuff is coming. It's like, we got the Goofy's. You could cancel or watch this seven-minute cartoon. I saw like a, it turned out to be a real clickbaity article. I thought it was like a real website, but it was not.

But it was like, Disney has promised like more adult oriented content is coming and i'm like wait how are you using that phrase because i was like oh are they putting all the touchstone stuff are they putting all the like actual like pg3 and then it turned out to just be like marketing speak and it was just the head of disney plus going like're going to keep making original great original content like the Mandalore and it's like well that's a PG-13 like that's not really what I was thinking so not porn

not porn of the Mandalorian not even like splash not even like that sort of stuff not high end pornography filmed on the same sets as The Mandalorian. But they can put any actor in there.

Yeah. Yeah. Peter Cushing. Grand Moff Tarkin. His estate signed off on it. We have all the face scans and we can just do it. Yeah. All the monsters. The signed off on it. We have all the face scans and we can just do it.

All the monsters, the raiders. Tusken raiders. It would be the third woman to appear on camera on those sets. A lot of dudes in that Mandalorian. A lot of dudes. That's the issue with making

the triple X. There's not a lot of people. I donorian. A lot of dudes. That's the issue with making the triple X. Yeah. Yeah. There's not a lot of people. Not an issue. It's the Raiders. I don't see an issue at all. I don't see a problem at all.

Zuckus and Bosk going at each other. No problem there. All Raider dog pile. Yeah. Okay. What else about the fun tiki bar? We should start winding it down. Any closing thoughts not related to raider dog piles uh um

i don't know i had a i had a i had a lovely time it's a fun place it's great yeah with details that it would take you dozens of visits none of this stuff that we witnessed and enjoyed and talked about happened on the terrace no gotta go inside wait stalk a seat do all the things you gotta do to eat inside the dark restaurant you gotta do it it's yeah so i disagree with mike carlson and uh and this is the only thing i disagree with him about look if you're coming from the jungle and you've got some scurvy and you need to sit outside and get some vitamin c from fruit juices you might want to sit on the terrace there's also other places to eat if you have scurvy though if you have scurvy we'll do another episode about just the terrace yeah so that's we'll talk about it then just about

the terrace yeah yeah just oh my god you let you don't listen to this podcast enough to know we'll do it no i know i'll be forced to do it oh oh pity the boy that was terrified that was like you turn into a warlock for a minute well there are warlocks in the adventurous class there are warlocks and see i bet uh magic is gonna come he turned into norma desmond the next time i just i say i'm not sure there's enough meat on the bone for that to be an episode, I will just get an all-caps text, Pity the Boy. Pity the Boy will have to sit in this place he loves so much. I think Pity the Boy, honestly, might become the new

who gives a fuck about grapefruit or counterpoint you are wrong. I think Pity the Boy... This is developing quite a cadre of terrifying phrases. I think that people are going to like pity the boy. Oh, pity the boy. That's also what I'm going to get when I'm getting antsy in an episode and showing it. I'll get all caps, pity the boy. Pity the boy.

Pity the boy. Oh, yes, those little notes we pass each other sometimes. Who would have thought that at the end of this episode, another phrase would be coined? I feel honored to be here for it. Yeah. You helped create it by mentioning this terrace. Yeah. this episode another another phrase would be i feel honored to be here for it yeah yeah you helped create it by mentioning this terrace yeah so there will i guess be an episode about yeah you you don't have to you just because you said it out loud do you have to i don't know it's up to them it's up to it's up to jason and I. I'm not promising it in the next month.

We've promised about 100 episodes so far. There's a lot of those I'd rather do than the Terrace, which we've all agreed is lesser than the bar. It's not as good as Inside. I think that's the episode. I think you just did the episode. End of episode.

There's a fire pit. There's a fire pit you could talk about over there. And there's different cups. They don't want you taking it out in case you go by the pool. And now we've survived the terrorist episode. Wonderful. I love doing the episode within the episode, guys. I also think that I should sign up and try to become a performer.

I play acoustic guitar outside to see what that's like, to really enjoy that experience. I mean, I agree with that. So if I perform there, too, let's try that. That would warrant a terrorist episode for sure. I guess true. I actually, damn it. All right. Now it's on you, right?

Performer permits. Pity the boy. Pity the boy. Pity the boy who must play for the people who enjoy his tunes. I screwed this up. I worked myself into a shoot, as they say in wrestling. Damn it. damn it um well i don't i i guess uh i guess in that case we'll we'll start researching the terrorist episode uh danny jelinek you survived podcast oh wow thanks for having me guys thanks

for hey uh uh hey no no no pity for the guest because i think you had a it looks like you had a blast i'm still smiling i'm still i, I didn't fall out of my seat. You didn't, despite there being no seatbelt. Despite no seatbelt, we talked about it all. And listener, it was great talking with you. And what you got to say back to me? Oh, that's a shame. Oh, that's harsh.

Sorry to hear that. Well, I tried. I'm not really great at being on podcasts. So, listener, I'm sorry you felt that well i tried i'm not really great at being on podcasts so listener uh i'm sorry you felt that way but just uh just know i'm gonna stop this bit now if you're mad at the bit it's over you never have to hear it again um uh danny you're great hey you you were great on the podcast and you're great at many things where can people go see you be great let's exit through the gift shop that's what i say oh okay

what would you like to to plug oh my i've recently started tweeting again i know i've been enjoying um but then i also have stopped tweeting again but if you want to read some of my old if you want to see a burst from around october november list generator on twitter and list generator spelled just how it sounds and you're're doing stuff on that Kimmel show. Yeah. Oh, I have a... Are you now worried that you... You are an ABC employee.

Are you now worried all of this is fireball? I think I spoke very highly of Disney and all their properties. I just... Hey, Disney, if you're out there listening, put Goofy Go Skiing up sooner than later. Yeah. We'd all appreciate it. That's my only critique of the Disney Corporation. When are they putting up Jimmy Kimmel Live?

Oh, that'd be good too. Well, it's part of the Hulu package. Oh, right. No, no, no. I want the archive. I want all 15,000 episodes. They're on there. They're on Hulu.

Are they all? I think a lot of them, yeah. Wow. There's no way it's like every episode. You can watch it like a ton. I think you can actually. Really? You might be able to watch all of them you may be able to watch at least one you gotta start at one you gotta start it live is not gonna make sense unless you can't just jump in now yeah uh oh uh the other thing i will actually plug is uh as well as um i have a zine called dipped oh yeah uh that you can get

you can you you can email me at dipped zine at gmail.com uh me and dan abramson make that it's it's a zine that we make that we actually dip into coffee the first issue we're currently hard at work on the second issue and it's dip is it's going to be dipped into something else this time yeah probably like uh i don't want to spoil anything but we're talking about wine oh interesting good very good i think at some point glue would be fun to yeah to make it uh it might be it might guys i didn't really come do you have opinions on glue off the top of your head or is that something you'd have to investigate? Oh, I would test it.

Okay. But yeah, we just dipped the bottom corner in each. Sorry, I didn't plan on talking about dipped. No, it's not about dipped. I don't even know if we have any more to sell, but I think we have some left. If you email us, it's like seven bucks. I think someone who's been on this podcast must have written for Dipped

I was supposed to I'll do it in the future I don't think we're done with it if you still want to I'm asking all of you on the air if you would like to submit to Dipped because I think you're all very talented I would like to buy it as well

oh the audience is not invited? okay well that's a lot we went off on a very bad note well that's a lot that's a lot they are strangers to you we went off on a very bad note and that's their fault that is on you if you had if you had said something nice to me in your car and i and i had responded to the blank space positively then yes you would have all been in dipped wow i'm I'm going to stop talking about dipped. Anyways, I do think there's good... You should check that out.

You would like it. Audience. Yeah. Agreed. I'll do something for it in the future. Yeah. Hey, and for more Podcasts to Ride, follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.

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I don't think it does. No, isn't that a hello? It's kind of a toast sort of thing. You can get it. Oh, if it's a toast then. You can get it. Oh, man. Last time, you can order congalooshes old style and new style at trader sam's oh it's not on the menu that's the secret oh that's fun yeah so we should say it yeah right all right so then a hearty kongaloosh goodbye

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