Podcast: The Ride - Treats with Candice LeRae

Episode Date: May 29, 2020

WWE Superstar Candice LeRae joins us to talk mousse domes, theme park cheat days, and her time working as a baker at Universal Studios Hollywood.  Dirty Foot Pirate episode up at The Second Gate! Pa...treon.com/PodcastTheRide FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Forever. Dog. Warning, the following podcast contains these ingredients. Riffing, out of left field tangents, chuckles, and equal parts sincerity and irony. Guest Candice LeRae joins us to talk treats on today's delicious podcast, The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, the theme park podcast whose definition of treats ranges from ice cream and cookies to mid-Atlantic specific meats like Scrapple.
Starting point is 00:00:55 My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Scrapple enthusiast Jason Sheridan. I don't know if I consider that a treat so much as a staple. Like something good and reliable to have in the house. So you've completely rejected my premise immediately yeah sure all right fine so i'll amend some people you could consider it a treat but but wouldn't you say that donuts are a staple as well but they're also a treat no they're i think they're a treat but don't you have a donut every day let's's bring Scott Gardner in here to weigh in on this very important topic. Yeah, I hear what he's saying. A treat implies that you don't have it all the time,
Starting point is 00:01:32 but if you're having Scrapples on the daily, then it's hardly a deviation from the norm. Right, but if Scrapples is something you have once in a while, wouldn't it be sort of like a treat staple? Like as a once in a while fun staple, Jason? So there's staples, there's treats, and there's treat staples. These are different categories. That's what I'm getting
Starting point is 00:01:54 at. But I think once in a while does not imply a staple. Okay. That's fine. No, no, that's correct. A staple would mean a staple means it's like one of your in the front infantry of treats it is deployed the most often as an occasional thing right um you know maybe during the course of this episode we'll figure out all the lanes that the food's going
Starting point is 00:02:18 uh sure we obviously have a lot of important work to do today as far as organization as far as figuring out where things go got a lot of field clearing to do uh it's gonna be like like some pretty tough physical labor i feel uh but let's bring our guest in i'm sure she has a lot of thoughts on scrapple and other treats uh you know her from wwe nxt ladies and gentlemen it's candace laray She's here. Hello. I'm really pumped to be here. One of my favorite topics. You're like one of us. You're very hardcore when it comes to all of this stuff. Yes. And actually, my husband has created a monster. He is really on top of looking everything up and knowing everything there is to know about everything that we could possibly eat especially in theme in theme park so okay i'm an expert now because of him before i was just okay but now so he checks new seasonal items um yes so the epcot food and Wine Festival, is that something he'll know the entire lineup for?
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yes. And we will print out the menus before we go. And we always go in with a game plan. We kind of know what we want, what we don't want. Because I think that when people go to something... I mean, anytime there's seasonal stuff, you may go in and you get really pumped to eat all this stuff. And then you get ahead of yourself.
Starting point is 00:03:46 You eat too much too fast and then you're full. So he has this completely planned out to where we don't get full too fast. And we space everything out. It's a whole system he has. It's crazy. Wow. Okay. So you all have like sort of like a book report long yes interesting is there uh
Starting point is 00:04:09 does do you have like a general strategy when you're going to like one of those festivals is there like uh you hit savory foods first you hit sweets later so that's where it gets a little tricky because i'm a savory person and Johnny is very much so a sweets person, like the ultimate sweets person. And I, I mean for instance, if we wake up in the morning, he's like, let's get a bunch of donuts. My, the first thing I'm going to tell him is we got to get something else cause I can't just eat a bunch of donuts.
Starting point is 00:04:40 That's so much sugar in so little time. So like we kind of it works out because we will go to a stand and we're like oh they have a sweet thing but they also have a savory thing we want both and we can get both i'm gonna eat more of the savory he's gonna eat more of the sweet it's like perfect harmony it actually works out for us it's a balance we have a nice balance sure um if if it's just like a general theme park visit though like if you're just going to say epcot or you're going to the magic kingdom for a night is there a strategy always or is this just sort of a normal game plan at that point uh i guess it depends if there's seasonal stuff out or if they're i mean it seems anymore there's always seasonal stuff but yeah it just depends it like nowadays there's so many
Starting point is 00:05:27 seasonal options out there and it just depends on if we've had all that stuff and then it also depends on if it is a cheat day or not because we can't always just go and eat a bunch of snacks well he can't always go and eat a bunch of snacks but i i like to bend that rule a bit sure so yeah i mean ideally we try to fit something in even if we're not technically on a cheat day but it really depends on if it's worth it at that point to cheat i gotta be worth it what would you say like what is a treat that's worth it what are the top like i guess we'll probably i mean we're gonna talk a lot of treats here but what are the top treats like what do we like all of us what are our top like if even if we're feeling like we shouldn't be eating something but we see it
Starting point is 00:06:21 we're right by it me it's like the double like on main street if i get like a double scoop cone with sprinkles on the outside we'll usually get that even if i should i feel like i can always convince myself that a dole whip is okay i'm like oh you know like it's not really that bad even if it's on top of like the little pineapple upside down cake. I'm like, is it really that bad? It's fruit. It's nutritious. Yeah, it's fruit. It's just fruit. It's just liquid fruit.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Dairy free? I think it's even dairy free. Yes. Yes. It's great. Can't go wrong. So. We'll talk about how many carbs are in that fruit, but it's mostly sugar.
Starting point is 00:06:57 You need it though because it's energy. It's energy. Sugar is energy. Fruit is energy. That's a good point. The big risk is if you don't have enough treats. The biggest health thing would be if your energy was low and you
Starting point is 00:07:09 collapsed and hit your head on the curb on Main Street or something. It's vital to have all of these treats. It's a necessity. You need something. There's a lot of lying to ourselves that goes into eating a lot of this stuff. No. Are we lying? Is it a lie? There's a lot of this stuff. No. Are we lying? I mean, to some degree. Is it a lie?
Starting point is 00:07:26 I mean, there's a hint of truth. Bending the truth is what it is. Do any of you guys think before a theme park visit, like in the several days prior, I have to be on my good...
Starting point is 00:07:42 I have to be on the best possible diet to allow myself this amount of cheating because you know that's like inherent to the theme park experience or do you not think about especially because probably all of us just end up at theme parks
Starting point is 00:07:57 without realizing it because we go further than that yeah I'm gonna go with no I do not get that any thought but i probably should as i get older uh i think my treat plan is usually uh dependent on how like if i'm gonna be there a full day or if i'm gonna be there like a half day like if i'm to be there all day, I find I burn energy quickly. I get hungry a lot. Sure.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Oh, yeah. I don't have that if I'm just sitting at home working and stuff. I don't eat that many times in a day. But if I'm walking eight to 10 miles a day in a theme park. Yeah, I think I'd get more hungry. Yeah, you need more calories. Yeah, you need more calories. You just need more.
Starting point is 00:08:55 But since I, of course, usually have ice cream at home, I usually like to get something a little more at the park, either be it like a milkshake. Not that many places have milkshakes or sundaes or something a little extra. Sure. Something needs to be added. It can't just be something you could scoop out of a carton. I feel the same way about alcoholic beverages. If the bartender can do something,
Starting point is 00:09:16 if it's not just opening a bottle of something I could buy at the grocery store. Yeah. I want a little flair. I want some little doodad on it. Well, you know what? Scott brings up a doodad, which makes me think of an idea he's had, which will segue perfectly into talking about the fact that you worked at Universal Studios. I did.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Was your official title Baker? So you were a baker at Universal Studios. Yes. Scott, this reminds me because Scott had a great idea for a drink at Universal, which I'll never forget. It's the, he wanted a sugar Mr. DNA in a cocktail from Jurassic Park. The little character. Oh my God. Which was a sugar thing with the eyes.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. Which is, I think, a fantastic idea. Because, you know, at Universal, you have less opportunities to have treats that look like characters. I feel like the Grinch and the Minions have opened things up for them significantly, but I think there's a lot more they could be doing.
Starting point is 00:10:21 And granted, the properties are a little more limited. It's maybe weird to do like a cupcake that looks like an apollo 13 console or whatever the hell their properties are um but you know mr dna is sitting right there beloved universal character yeah yeah that shouldn't be easy too yes um it should be easy um so how long did you work as a baker so i worked there for two years and then um wrestling was going well for me so i did the crazy probably not adult thing and left my baking job for my wrestling career it worked out out. Yeah, it did. Yeah. None of it sounds very adults. That's all like little kid fantasy. That's, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So I had, um, I applied at Disney first and they said that you needed more experience, which was fine. I get that. And I went to universal. And originally the baking position wasn't a thing. It just said cook and i was like well i have like a full culinary degree i'll just do i'll do that that's fine i like cooking and i went in for my interview and you had to take a test first and they asked me they said oh you didn't specify which test you wanted to take and i was so confused i was going uh
Starting point is 00:11:40 what and they said do you want the baking test or do you want the cooking one and like I lost my mind because I was like I want to be a baker so badly and I took the baking test was not prepared for the baking test so I thought I was gonna vomit but I passed I only missed like three on the test the chef talked to me because I lived at the time I was in Riverside, which is a good solid hour and a half away from Universal. So the chef was a little worried about that commute every day. But I mean, the hour and a half commute is not bad when you're working, you know, 12 hour shifts. And it was such a great like, I didn't feel like I was working at all. I loved it so much. We got to do so many cool things like we because the bakery there, I didn't feel like I was working at all. I loved it so much. We got to do so many cool things.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Like we, cause the bakery there, I don't think a lot of people realize the bakery and the production kitchen also cater events that happen on property. So we got to do a lot of movie premieres, television premieres, like just so many cool events that were happening that nobody would have ever guessed that we got to cater for. So every day you walk in and it's like, you just don't know what you're going to be doing or what to expect. It was just such a cool job. I literally never felt like I was working.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Wow. That's great. I'll play. I have a lot of questions about everything you just said, and I'm going to go in chronological order. The first one being, what does the baking test consist of? Well, they ask you a lot of questions, you know, cause you have to be, I was serve safe certified at the time. So they'll ask you a lot of things like temperatures and you know, you don't want eggs just hanging out, not staying cold.
Starting point is 00:13:16 You want to know what temperatures things have to be to be done. Cause you don't want to get people sick. So basically that, and, and cleanliness things of that nature is basically what the test was. And then like, the thing is that there's some things that they're going to ask you in a baking test that, I mean, you don't need for a baker, you don't necessarily need to know what temperature chicken needs to be for chicken to be done. But if I was going to take the cooking test, that was something I needed to know. So you may have had a lot more trouble with a cooking test and maybe that was not a job you wanted anyway. Well, luckily, I had just gotten out of culinary school. So I had already taken all these crazy exams where they're asking you like symptoms.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And they're like, what does this person have? E. coli, salmonella. And you just have to know. Yeah, it's crazy. Don't ask me now. It's been far too long, but yeah, you had to know based on somebody's symptoms, what it could have been because you have to in a kitchen, be able to kind of figure out where the problems stem from. It's right. Yeah. If it's just a brain freeze,
Starting point is 00:14:23 that's not as big of a problem as a an ecoli seizure or whatever yeah maybe not maybe it's very common it's survivable unless it's just a level 10 brain i kind of want to see if we can find this test and then we could take it i would be interested if we could guess what what the problem is based on like the food illness you could probably do any serve safe certification type um exam because a lot of the questions are the same yeah it's crazy what you have to know to be able to or what you should know to be able to work we're looking for ways to kill time during quarantine so maybe we should all take a baking test and see if go get surf safe that's our next twitch stream is taking the surf safe surf patient tests
Starting point is 00:15:10 so yeah that's that's fun so you did that for two years uh at universal was there ever any consideration into anything else at universal i mean you are a performer as well. Were you ever thinking of being the New York street atmosphere characters or anything? Well, so this is, I'm one of the people, Johnny and I are very different in this respect. Like he is such a, like, I would love to be in the center of the world and everybody all eyes on me and he's like such a performer which is why he's so great at what he does but I am like outside of wrestling I'm kind of like well I'll just stay behind the scenes and like I love wrestling and I'm confident in wrestling but if you ask me to go and perform something else in front of a bunch of strangers, I'd be so insecure and like, oh my gosh, nobody looked at me.
Starting point is 00:16:06 No Shakespeare? But, no. I did, I loved acting when I was a kid and I liked performing in front of like friends and family, but I just, oh my gosh, I get so insecure about how ridiculous, like I'm so hard on myself that i'm gonna just automatically assume i'm the worst at acting i should never do it again so i'd rather just stick
Starting point is 00:16:32 to my little comfort zone there with wrestling gotcha so that will be my perform in front of people that feels a little fitting in terms of like the baking uh job because like you would be going in i'm assuming bakers traditionally start very early you would be going in while much of the world is still asleep i'm assuming i yes i used to wake up at 10 p.m so that i could get ready and drive from riverside to universal and my shift started at one in the morning and I'd work one in the morning until 1 PM a lot of days. Yeah. And you were juggling an independent wrestling schedule,
Starting point is 00:17:13 right? With that. Yes. So they, I made it, I'm, I actually had put the wrestling thing on my resume because I was like, this guy's not going to forget me.
Starting point is 00:17:22 If nothing else, the chef who's interviewing me, he's not going to forget me. And he else, the chef who's interviewing me, he's not going to forget me. And he had a lot of questions about that, of course. But he hired me on the spot, and so he knew that I was going to be doing this commute. And the wrestling thing was made very clear to them from the beginning, because if you work at a theme park,
Starting point is 00:17:40 you have to kind of accept that a lot of weekends are gone. Yeah. But most wrestling shows happen on weekends. So to find the balance, I used to wrestle a lot of California shows and depending on where the show was, like for instance, the one promotion PWG is based out of Reseda. So at the time Reseda, I used to work my shift and I'd get off a little bit early that
Starting point is 00:18:06 day. And so I'd start at 1am. And then a lot of times I'd get off, I told them maybe 11 at the latest, just because I had to go back home. I'd go all the way back to Riverside so that I could shower, get ready, get my bag packed. And then I drive back out to Reseda, which is again, another hour and a half. It's basically, it's closer to universal than Riverside, but I would wrestle and the shows would get over so late, like the latest they could possibly be over. I'd be getting home at like three, four in the morning sleeping. And then I'd wake up and my,
Starting point is 00:18:44 they would work it to where my next shift wouldn't start until 2 PM the next day. So I get like a nice little bit of time in between. I didn't want to have to ask weekends off, you know? You never went from receipt, uh, right into work. No, I did have a few times, uh, where I'd wrestle in northern California and I would go my my tag partner and I I dropped my car off at his place because he lived in uh in LA so I dropped my car off at his we'd go like six eight hours to NorCal depending on where the show was. We'd wrestle, get in the car, drive back, and then I would get in my truck and I'd park it in the Jurassic Parking Garage
Starting point is 00:19:32 and I would just nap in the backseat of my truck until my shift started. Hey, you got to do what you got to do. Who among us has not had a little nappy in Jurassic Park? It's scary in there. It was hard sometimes, though. Drawings of T-Rexes everywhere. It is hard, though, because they do have security that'll go through. I had so many coworkers tell me that they would have security knocking on their car
Starting point is 00:19:59 windows to wake them up and ask them why they're sleeping there. And they're like, well, my shift starts soon. I don't, what do you want me to do? But I luckily was my, I had a truck at the time. So the back seat, I could hide back there and go undetected. So you were smuggling yourself. It never raises. Yeah. It never raises red flags. Cause so many people, especially since a lot of times I would get there while people were still, you know, if you're getting there at 1230 at night, people were still at the nightclubs there. Oh, like how old the moon and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:32 So there's still so many cars. Yeah. There's so many cars that are just like parked there at all hours. Your car ever get barfed on? No. Some blue cocktail land on your window at one in the morning no wow thank goodness you got to like take your 15 minute break and witness the last call at howl at the moon like there was there was one time um there was a concert going on and oh my gosh what was the theater they called? I can't remember right now.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Yes, yes, yes, yes. So when the Gibson was there, they used to kind of walk you through this little area that was kind of backstage-ish. And I think one time somebody got really, really, really drunk there and managed to wander down the hill where the bakery was and just came walking into the bakery at like one 32 in the morning. We're like, this must've been the most ridiculous. Cause we're like, it was,
Starting point is 00:21:34 there were three of us in there, two girls and a guy. And this person just comes walking in. And we were like, this person came in so confidently though. We're going, how did they, did they have a map of this place?
Starting point is 00:21:44 But then they ended up walking into the very dark super walk-in freezer that we have. And then that was the, Oh, they maybe don't know what the heck's going on. So that's like pre security. That's like pre crazy security too. Right?
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah. Yeah. And now that it's not there anymore, I don't think anybody can even i think it's just because you know like late nights when they have those concerts and so many people being around it's just easy for somebody to very confidently walk by and it's i mean there's so many of us that start work back there that are just walking back there in general if he just got to the right place at the right time then nobody would have ever questioned it is it possible that this drunkard is the one who started the
Starting point is 00:22:30 late night fire that burnt all of the music in the vault and king kong this guy it's a conspiracy he spilled a beer and then like a lighter fell out of his pocket. And before I know it, I got more Muddy Waters music. It's all burned up in a fire. So what, so which years did you work at Universal? Did you, and did you overlap with Scott? That's my question. Oh yes, I was a tour guide. So it potentially.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I'm trying to remember, I'm trying to remember the exact years. Like I'm, I'm coming to find that as I get older actual years really confuse me I remember years better when I had less going on it's easier to catalog because anything that happened was notable I'm doing anything at all wow it must be 2006
Starting point is 00:23:18 there we go 2012 to 2014 were my two years there. Okay. Okay. A little bit later then. Yeah. I was out of there like 2008, I believe. And you're saying, you said there's no more bakery. This is not there. There's no more. Um, there's no more Gibson. The amphitheater is gone because they had to put Harry Potter.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I was there while they were, uh, in the transition of that and starting on the Harry Potter stuff. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. Uh, well thank God, because if there was no more bakery, what a sad place. They did, um, they did after I left, I left get a better, it's not necessarily, it's more, I would call it a donut factory. They got a better donut factory for them because it was not necessarily, it's more, I would call it a donut factory. They got a better donut factory for them.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Cause it was a lot, a lot more complex of a system when I was there than I, what I think they have now. So were you hand, like you were hand making more donuts of like, now they have like some sort of a machine to make those donuts. They do have a machine. I think it's,
Starting point is 00:24:24 I think it's for, uh, smaller donuts because I don't know that they make something the size. I don't know if they have a cutter now to cut out the Simpsons donut because that is a whole thing. And like, you have to weigh the Simpsons donuts too, because they have to be as they all have to match in weight,
Starting point is 00:24:42 not necessarily size whoa so yeah is this kind of the primary universal dessert at this point or was it when you were there is that like the crown jewel when i was there if it was an off season we would do anywhere from like 70 to 100-ish donuts but then the most we would end up doing was during horror nights because basically during horror nights, the park is open 24 hours essentially. And so we'd have to have like four or 500 donuts and like, and I feel like it was four or 500 donuts just for the normal park hours. Plus a few more, you know know a few hundred more for like
Starting point is 00:25:26 the night and we were basically frying donuts all day every there was somebody in the bakery doing donuts not one person 24 hours at a time but there were different people going through but donuts were being done 24 7 during horror nights. It's crazy how many people love these donuts. And I think now they even have different kinds of the big donuts. Yeah. The Simpsons, I was just going to say the Simpsons donut is, is consists of what I have to admit, I've not had this donut. And what is the, what is it? Is it like a classic pink Homer donut? Yeah. So I will say say this that when i first started
Starting point is 00:26:07 working there or before i started working there and i would just uh like go to the park as a guest i would never get this donut because i thought oh this just it's probably been here for days like who knows and it's probably not even that good but then after being physically a part of the process of this donut, like, you realize that when you go there, and you see the donuts that are there, they made them that day. Like they made them that morning, you don't get an old donut. So the donuts at the end of the day, if they don't sell them, either send them home with the employees, because there were a few times where we'd make a few extra donuts just in case something happened and i would end up taking it home to my nieces or something you know like and i had no idea that i would love a simpsons donut so much jason has cut
Starting point is 00:26:57 out he uh left to go get a job at universal uh as soon as this is all over it is a very good donut it is it is good donut. It is good. You share it with somebody, cut it in pieces or rip off pieces. It's great. I was going to ask how long they sit there, but that's good to know. Anytime I've had it,
Starting point is 00:27:15 I was impressed that it was so fresh. Yeah, every day. And if you get there early enough. High standards here in Southern California. There's a big donut shop culture. Oh, yeah. They have the Grinch donut now, which I think is probably the same model. It's just a different color food coloring, I assume, or different color frosting.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah. When I was there, we used to have to do... When I very first started, I started during the holidays in 2012. And so they were doing all kinds of Grinch things and we were making mini donuts that we put in these bags. But I think they decided because we were having, at the time we hand cut all the donuts, even the little ones. And when you're spending all this time, hand cutting all these teeny tiny little donuts and then dipping them all in red and green icing, it's, it just is a lot of wasted time really. So now I'm, I'm glad they've moved on to like, Hey, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:16 everybody just likes the big donuts anyway. Like, I mean, let's be honest. Everybody just wants a big giant donut if nothing else for the Instagram photos. So I don't want to bag a little donut. That's interesting. Were you, did it, was there kind of like a rise of, could you feel the influence of Instagram while you were there? Is that, that became so much more of a theme park thing? Like it's gotta be really showy donuts that'll play on social media. I don't know if it was such a big thing when I was there.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I feel like people were more into Twitter at the time. And I don't, I wish that the Instagram thing would have been like, I don't know. I wish more people would have been into the Instagram type food when I was there, because we tried to get adventurous with some things sometimes and it would have looked great and I think they would have just
Starting point is 00:29:10 put it out into the parks instead of just leaving it in our test kitchen because we did a lot of test kitchen stuff and there were some things that were so pretty but I even still haven't seen it make its way into the park so anything anything you can talk about anything that like uh didn't make it uh didn't make it out into the park okay so you know like i there's a lot of moose type domes that they've been doing at disney a lot like um like if you go into pandora and you want the little the the chocolatey like moose dome i can't remember my why can't remember what that might be. Why can't I think of what it's called right now?
Starting point is 00:29:47 It's like that turtle I got for the electrical parade dinner we had, I think. Sure, sure, sure. That's like a moose dome, which is really a term we need to use more on this show. Moose dome. Yeah, a moose dome. Jason, don't you agree? We've never said moose dome before, so I think we've just got a new phrase we like. I agree 100%, and I'm hoping, I feel like a lot of theme parks, one of their go-to desserts,
Starting point is 00:30:13 especially at the cafeteria-style restaurants in the 90s, there was a big chocolate moose explosion, probably because it's easy to make in bulk. Oh, yeah, definitely. And I want a return. I want a return. probably because it's easy to make in bulk. Oh, yeah, definitely. And I want a return. I want a return. I want a new Moose renaissance. And if it's got to look good for Instagram, so be it.
Starting point is 00:30:35 But I'm just, I'm always down for chocolate Moose. Jason Sheridan in Under the Moose Dome. Yeah. The first, I guess, the right original film. I agree with that though. Cause they're very easy to make. And you can just make a sheet cake and cut out a bunch of circles and you have a little bit of cake in it too. And like we, we test, we tested them a long time ago, but I just think that they, I don't, I don't know. Like we,
Starting point is 00:31:03 I think we did them for the VIP stuff every so often, but I don't think that they were willing to put it into the parks just yet. Cause I think it was still like too soon, like maybe scare people because they couldn't post this fancy picture of it. You know, was there frustration among all of you that like you had ideas that were very good and people would like, but Universal would not allow such a extravagant dessert at this point at that point? Well, I just ended up because at one point, so they, I don't know if any of you have ever done one of the VIP tours at Universal, but there's like a lunch or breakfast and there's a dessert that they
Starting point is 00:31:46 have there and we cater that too. So every day there's somebody who's in charge of making the desserts for VIP. And it's like the job nobody wants. And I don't know why, but it is stressful because you're basically catering for anywhere from, you know, 50 to 200 people. And they want at least six, seven different kinds of desserts. They want different shapes. They want different flavors. So you have to kind of do your own prep. Like you don't have anybody that comes in and preps for you.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So you're doing your own prep and making all these desserts every day. It tends to be a little stressful I but and there's a deadline which most of the other jobs. There's no deadline. They say hey, we need more of this So let's get it out You know by this amount of you know Like by the end of the day have at least this or and people have already prepped like If you have to do muffins somebody's already prepped the batter for you So you just got to scoop them and bake them and let them cool and then send them off
Starting point is 00:32:44 But vip it's all on you somebody's already prepped the batter for you. So you just got to scoop them and bake them and let them cool and then send them off. But VIP, it's all on you. Wow. So I did a lot of the VIP stuff at the end of my, uh, time at universal. I loved it. Cause the days went by so fast because you're racing the clock,
Starting point is 00:32:58 but I would, anything that I kind of wanted to do or try, I would just do while I was doing my VIP stuff. OK, so because they know I was going to say, like, so you could experiment at those instances. I see. Yeah, we did some things just to kind of see what the chefs would like or they'd say, hey, we need a new this. We need to need that and then we would kind of try some different stuff and then they decide what they like and sometimes it was for
Starting point is 00:33:30 a catered event where they said well we need we have this coming up what can you guys do like the the minion we had these minion cookies for a while and I don't know if they still have them but they're like a rolled type cookie dough and we had three different colors so we had to make the big amount of dough and then um divide it into the different colors and then you have to roll the dough out a certain way so that it makes it look like the minion's eye and I kind they gave me the recipe for it and I kind of like did the test kitchen for it. But then like when they end up liking something that you do, then you have to continue to be the person to do it until somebody else can do
Starting point is 00:34:12 it just as fast and or the same as you. Cause they want all the, obviously they want them all to look the same. You don't want, you don't go to a theme park and get a churro. And then like the next time you get it, it's half the size it was last time and doesn't have enough cinnamon on it you know you know that you don't want that you want them all to be the same the mickey ice cream bar has like a third ear once in a while yeah well you're just getting extra ice cream that here this is the people are gonna start
Starting point is 00:34:41 demanding the third year. Yeah. That's if Mickey's been involved in a lab test. Right. There's an experiment gone wrong. A lab test or someone like popped him and he's got a shiner, you know? Yeah. Oh,
Starting point is 00:34:57 it's a big bruise. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's Mickey's been in a fight ice cream bar. The kids love it. Yeah so so okay so i guess this is probably i guess it goes without saying but so when you start as a baker they they essentially like you can create things do you sign a contract that basically says any of my creations are property
Starting point is 00:35:20 of universal forever uh i don't remember signing anything like that but so maybe you could sue now i mean for like for ownership no i i i don't know maybe there's like an agreement that it's like a combined intellectual property or like we're working together i don't know i didn't really read it like any of my agreement stuff. It's mainly if you wanted to make it at home, they couldn't sue you. They couldn't come to your house and say, I probably couldn't sell it, but you know, like the minion things, like we did minion cookies and these mini minion, uh, cupcakes that had like Twinkies sticking out of them. And like,
Starting point is 00:36:01 I'm sure if I was like, Oh, I'm going to make these and sell these. Then they'd be like, Hey hey man what are you doing sure canada's original minion cookies yeah my creative to call you can't call them minions for copyright either so it's like yeah candace's yellow friends. That's pretty good. Do you remember, was there ever like a, did you ever attempt anything in the dessert field that was like a big disaster?
Starting point is 00:36:34 Oh my gosh. So there, I realized through this process working at Universal that I can't make like a normal just like caramel in the pan. Cause I, and I think it's just, I'm too, you know, Baker's supposed to be patient. I think maybe I'm too impatient.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And every single time I went to make this caramel with, and it's just like sugar and water, it shouldn't be hard. But if you do it just wrong or like one little speck of something that shouldn't be in there, gets in there, the whole thing's ruined. And I just couldn't feel it. It was so frustrating. There was a day where I tried three or four different ones because I was trying to make an ice cream.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And this was the beginning of this ice cream recipe. And I just couldn't do it. And I tried at home after. I was like, I don't understand what I'm doing. So I do have a game plan to one day buy a specific pot and teach myself how to do it. Because I just, for some reason, can... It's like my kryptonite.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I can't do it. I don't understand. Is that similar to making a roux? Like you really have to watch it and keep stirring it? I don't have problems with ruse. So maybe I... It's just you don't... You actually don't want to touch it that much. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:52 But you don't want it to like... I don't know. You have to babysit it, but you can't touch it. And I'm like, but I want to touch it. It looks like it's getting weird over here. So I have to touch it, but then it's ruined. So I don't know. Don't know what I'm doing wrong, but it hates me and I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Jason, have you ever tried to make that? I've never. I've tried to make. Well, Mike, I've made pecan pies before and you have to boil the maple syrup and you can't boil it too long but then you want it to cook for a little while before you put it in the pie crust but you need it to cook a little
Starting point is 00:38:34 but then you also have to let it cool a bit but then get it out because it will start to harden in the pot yeah where are you making these pecan pies? because it will start to harden in the pot. Yeah. Right. Where are you making these pecan pies? I've made them for like, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:55 it's usually around Thanksgiving or like, you know, parties. Jason, could you make one with a minion's eye in the middle? How would I do that? I guess, yeah. You could do it. Yeah, you can do it you can do it i believe in you hey let's get let's let's start while we're in quarantine let's uh start a podcast to ride side business where jason makes pies for listeners oh or it's a maybe it's a Patreon tier, maybe. I have one problem with the one
Starting point is 00:39:28 you proposed, though, which is that I think if a minion's eye was on a pecan pie, it would look like a minion was a burn victim or something. Oh, yeah, maybe you're right. That pattern is just bizarre, I think, for it to be the consistency of a minion's face.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Okay, well, we can go back to the drawing board on it. Alright. A minion meringue is perhaps an easy one. That's nice and smooth. Yeah, but Jason can't make a meringue. I've never attempted a meringue. They're easy. You can do it.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Thank you for all your support, I believe in you. I appreciate it. A pecan pie is a little more the texture of like a dinosaur's face. So maybe you like take a slice out of it and then it's sort of like a T-Rex or a raptor. Yeah. Well, yeah, Jason. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Well, we'll figure out what baked good Jason will be sending to listeners soon. Maybe off air. I love it. is there canister is is there do you have a specialty as a baker like what like if you were to if you were like trying to impress a king of a country oh my gosh like you're like this is what this is what i make the best or or enjoy even the best it's so hard for me to like i try to tell people all the time you're basically asking me to choose between my children i see and it's it's so difficult to to do that i i'm trying to think of things that i like to do just to impress people i i will say one thing that i have brought
Starting point is 00:41:00 into my real life gotta do this to like look, but not doing anything that's hard is that I do still make the T-Rex cakes that they used to have. I don't know. I don't know if they may still have them. I don't know. But they were these just like six layer chocolate cakes with chocolate icing. And we put these mini chocolate chips all around the outside of the cake and then there's like a chocolate ganache on top and it looks so fancy and so pretty but it's really like the easiest thing to do it's so easy i love doing that and so you still will on on the regular make something like this yeah if i if like johnny when johnny and i first started dating, it's still so tricky because I have to convince his family that I really like baking. So they'll have a party or something and we're like, oh, we'll bring something. They're like, no, don't worry about it. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:41:55 look, if you tell me I can't bake something and bring it, you're actually making me really sad. It's actually ruining my day. So for his dad's birthday, I made that T-Rex cake and it was just chocolate on top of chocolate and it just looked so fancy and they were so impressed. I'm like that, that's like a hundred percent of the time people see that cake and they're like, oh my God, it's so pretty. It's, it's just, I'm, I'm literally just mushing chocolate chips on the side of the cake. So there's nothing fancy about it. And it's, I wonder what is it called again?
Starting point is 00:42:29 Just so I know. I'm trying to think of what the T-Rex cake, this was sold. Where was it sold in universal? Just anything near all the Jurassic park stuff. Gotcha. Cause I know, I feel like there was a couple places that we sent it
Starting point is 00:42:45 i i just googled t-rex cake and uh there's about a hundred results all different from different like child's birthday party cakes oh no so i don't know if i'm gonna be able to find a picture of this very easily let me see well that's the rest of my day coming through those results living vicariously living vicariously through these kids who all had super cool birthdays you can actually go through your whole birthday history because I see one that says fourth birthday one that says sixth
Starting point is 00:43:17 birthday I could live a whole life a whole other life today you'll be reliving your life via T-Rex cakes. I'll have to make it, because I feel like this is going to be impossible, but I'll have to make it sometime and then tag you guys so that you can see the glory that is the T-Rex cake. That'd be great.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Yes, cliffhanger. Candice, talking about theme park cakes, you and Johnny got married at the grand californian uh how was that cake okay so that was famously a cake based day yes i that was the one because uh so we went in for a tasting and when we did the tasting we were kind of excited about the food but then when it came to the cake and I'm not, I'm not usually a big cake person. Like I, like I said before, I'm a savory person. The irony of that is I get it, but like, I, I love, I love, I don't know, salty things that are fatty and just,
Starting point is 00:44:20 that's all me. But these cakes that they had were so good and they have a dole whip cake and that was all i wanted and so i on our wedding day i really didn't eat much but i did eat my wedding cake it was so good so good they have churro now too and i think we're gonna renew our vows somewhere just so that i can have this churro cake now oh wow so is it only for wedding havers not available to the public otherwise like this dole whip i think that it was a moose inside the cake too like this cake was so good and like oh i just i wish they did sell it in the park somewhere because they were just, oh, they need Moose Dome, this Dole Whip cake right now. There's got to be a way.
Starting point is 00:45:14 So are you, you know, we obviously like read a lot of these blogs and listen to these other podcasts. Are you in some sort of loop where you know, what the newest disney wedding cakes are i just saw something somewhere and i can't remember where it was but that it said and i don't it might have been on there uh because the fairy tale weddings has an instagram and i might have seen it on there and i got really excited like johnny and i have been talking for a while about renewing our vows in general um But then all these other things keep coming out. Like I will tell you this for anybody who is even thinking about doing a Disney wedding, do the Disney wedding. It was the greatest thing I could have ever hoped for.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Like the, they took care of everything. They literally handled everything. And then anytime I wanted something, they said just ask us and we'll put a price handled everything. And then anytime I wanted something, they said, just ask us and we'll put a price to it. And then if you don't think it's worth that price, then it's fine. We'll take it off and we'll change it. Like we had, because you, you have your dinner, then they have cake. And then, or sorry, we had the cocktail hour that had appetizers. Then we had the dinner, then we had our cake and then after when people were leaving cuz like we had a candy buffet and then when they were
Starting point is 00:46:28 leaving there were Mickey pretzels like yeah we were all yeah I was oh that's that's all I and I told Johnny at one point because I didn't think the Mickey pretzel thing was gonna happen I looked at him and I was like I just really really want Mickey pretzels at our wedding. Is that too much? And he said, I just get the Mickey pretzel. So it was one of my proud. I ran out into the hallway to take a picture of them being present at our wedding because I was so happy that they were there.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Where's that ceremony? Is it like in the there's kind of that like uh atrium area in the middle of grand california yep okay yep that's where we did it and the monorail went over i want to say every like five minutes during the ceremony the monorail went over and like i could see how some people might be like well that's getting to be a bit repetitive but i every time it did it i got so happy I kept looking at Johnny. I was like, oh my gosh, there it is. It's a ride at your wedding. That's pretty cool. I was really, really, really happy about it.
Starting point is 00:47:34 My family stayed at one of the rooms that overlook that little courtyard once. And it was cool to just go out on the balcony and see the monorail go by. But sure enough, I did go out once and look down and there was a wedding happening. Wow. What were their character? Like, what are their costume characters at the wedding? Like, was Mickey at the wedding or is that we thought about it? We thought about it, but it's so much extra that I was just kind of like.
Starting point is 00:48:02 And at the time, johnny had johnny had just signed with wwe full-time so finances were a bit different than than they are for us now and like my dad insisted on paying for the way i'm i'm the only daughter in my family i have two brothers and i have like an adopted brother and like I'm the only girl so my dad was like no I'm paying for your wedding. So I don't want to be too greedy either. I didn't want to be like hey dad I want Mickey and Minnie at the wedding. Like I know you're dropping a lot of money for this Disney wedding, but hey, let's get Mickey and Minnie too. For Mickey to show up for 10 minutes that costs like what an entire other wedding would cost.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah, it was more than I was like for instance for Mickey to show up for 10 minutes that costs like what an entire other wedding would cost. Yeah. It's, it was more than I was like, for instance, we wanted to, cause they have a cake that they do like a projection onto and we really wanted that cake, but it was, I want to say at the time it was $5,000 and I was going, I'm not going to ask my dad to spend $5,000 on this cake. Like, there's no way. And so we went with one that cost us $500. That's much better. Yeah. Way better. Was there any sort of, this is probably not on a list, but in my mind, there's a list of characters, and the more obscure, the more money it is like if you want to have like like if you want darkwing
Starting point is 00:49:27 duck's daughter at the wedding it's way more money than having donalds listen if i could have gotten darkwing duck at our wedding my husband would have been the happiest human that has ever existed darkwing duck performs the ceremony yeah oh he has a whole my husband has decided that when we have our first child he's gonna have like the entire family sitting in the waiting room at the hospital because he thinks that that's that's what they do in movies so certainly that's what will happen in real life and then he wants to go into this waiting room and tell everybody that things went really bad. And like, I'm probably not going to make it and just really get people down as low as they could possibly be.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Then he wants a song to begin playing and he wants Rafiki to come out. And like originally, this was an actual baboon. And I told him I had to explain to him that the baboon was probably going to eat the child. So that's a bad idea. And then he wants he wants him to come out and present the baby to everybody in the waiting room. And I asked him, I said, well, how how are we even getting this thing into the hospital? Like, this doesn't make any sense. And he decided that the baboon will
Starting point is 00:50:45 walk in in a doctor's coat and nobody will suspect a thing so he's very theatrical this husband of mine i mean yeah so he wants yes he wants rafiki to hold up uh the child like simba yes is there any sort of like, is he even gone to the point where like maybe people should be waiting outside and you can do it on top of the hospital. So it's like, don't say that to him. Please don't tell him that.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Sorry. It's going to get out of control. I mean, this kid, this kid, like on our wedding, when, when I was trying to lay the ceremony out,
Starting point is 00:51:24 I asked him, I was like, Hey, do you want to walk your mom down the aisle? And he was like, what does the groom usually do? And I'm pretty sure that maybe he's never been to a wedding. And he's like, well, what is the groom? Like, what do they usually do? And I told him, I said, well, I mean, you can either walk your mom down the aisle or you can just be there. He's like, you want me to just be there? And I was like, well, I mean, i'm trying to find out what you want and then i was telling him you know the order of
Starting point is 00:51:50 everybody and how things are going and he's like wait you get your own entrance and i don't get my own entrance and i was like uh okay i guess we'll work that into it so he had his own entrance at our wedding and really threw a wrench into things because he didn't. He basically wanted to come out right before I did. And I had this long hallway that I had to run down once he was clear of the door. It was crazy. So he had his own entrance. And then he asked me why nobody applauded him during his entrance at
Starting point is 00:52:26 a wedding yeah that's a performer all right that's performing i relate i told him i told him when we renew our vows we'll make sure to uh leave signs in on like where people are gonna be sitting we'll leave signs so that they can hold up signs for him and make sure that it is very clear that they are to cheer for him when he comes out and makes his big entrance. Maybe he can go last this time. Who knows? Yeah. I guess all bets are off when it's a renewal.
Starting point is 00:52:54 So it's not, there's not the formality. Yeah. It's not real. We're already married. Yeah. So it could be, it could be full theatrics.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah. Lighting. I, yeah. Work. You can lay, you can land from the sky. Pyro. theatrics, lighting, firework, you can land from the sky. Pyro, yeah, I mean, pyro. It can actually be mainly a wrestling match with just like, you know, 4% vow renewal.
Starting point is 00:53:16 He's already like laying it out as though it is going to be a wrestling show. So before you know it, the vows are just renewed backstage we even yeah it's just all wrestling now when you when you two met was there a shared connection immediately of the about this type of stuff about like theme parks and stuff i was like about how crazy he is. So Johnny had never been to a theme park until he met me.
Starting point is 00:53:57 And I took him to Disneyland first because to me, Disneyland is like everything. It's my home base. Like even living out here, I'm like, but it's still not Disneyland. When people ask me, like, oh, which one? I'm like, I'm so Disneyland. It's the original. Walt actually walked those streets. It's a pretty big deal. So I took him to Disneyland first. And then I took him to Universal and then his entire life changed. So I did, I did a good thing for his life. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:28 He, so was he a Disney guy where you, did you at least have like a Disney connection or was like, where did your nerd, your nerd, uh, interests meet? Was he a star Wars Marvel guy before?
Starting point is 00:54:41 He is star Wars Marvel. So that was our part of our, like, Oh, we like all, a lot of the same things and like i mean we we have similar taste in like tv shows and we're like we like playing video games i mean you could as you saw we have just the most absurd amount of toys and collectible type things and like we i i don't know that like he was so big into disney but once we kind of started dating and we started i think we found a lot more similarities in things like i didn't
Starting point is 00:55:15 know he was such a massive darkwing duck fan for instance until we like we we walk around the theme parks and he's going like how come there's no dark queen duck here it's like oh didn't realize it was that important big rafiki fan apparently yeah loves rafiki just loves rafiki he added i added the thing about like you dying a childbirth though that doesn't happen in the movie no mother famously lives a long time his theory is that they're at such a low at that point like they can they can only go up from there yeah like you you're at such a low you can only go up wait what so yeah jason brings up also another good point is like, does Rafiki also announce that you're alive in the scenario? I don't know. I don't know that he's thought about that yet.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Or the queen. She lives. I do. I never really thought about the fact that he does go out. Rafiki goes out there with the baby. Everybody's probably in fear for that baby's life. Also, they think I'm dead. Maybe they think Rafiki did this.
Starting point is 00:56:24 You were killed by a baboon. I mean, yes, if they've been taken that low and then you see a live animal walk out, you might assume the worst. You might not be full of joy when you see this animal. I would also think I would attack the animal
Starting point is 00:56:40 to get the baby back before the animal was able to present the baby. Johnny thinks as long as he's wearing a doctor's coat, it's fine. I can't argue with that. I would be much, you know, I would respect a baboon in a professional setting a lot more than an unclothed baboon. Just like a drunk guy walking into a bakery. You assume he's there for a reason.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah, he went in with a purpose. If he went in, he was vomiting everywhere. I might be like, okay, there's like a zombie running through here right now. Sure. If the monkey arbitrarily checks a clipboard or something. Yeah. We've mentioned a little bit on the indies
Starting point is 00:57:22 and the independent scene, there were a few things that you would do to reference your love of theme parks if my memory is correct you would announce that you were from mr toad's wild ride yes it broke my heart because when i came here um when i was doing the first mayan classic they put hometown and i was kind of devastated because i was going i can't be from mr toad's wild ride anymore like what do i do and uh i did anaheim california but then i was going i think the reference is lost on people that i am not from there i think people just are from there true it's a real place yeah i think there was one pwg where you and your former tag team partner joey ryan had r2d2 and c3po
Starting point is 00:58:06 yeah yes we have this other idea that just never we just never had time to do it actually but he uh we wanted to be peter pan and tinkerbell and joey does not typically go up top to jump off for anything or just be up there period he's not that's not his thing and uh we wanted to do something where he'd climb up to the top and i and he'd be scared but i would give him pixie dust and therefore he would now be able to fly but it just never it never panned out for us so i think that would have gone over we also um we were we had captain eo inspired gear as well oh wow i don't think i've ever seen that some people and a lot of people have actually seen it and don't realize and i get really happy when people do realize what the reference is but But we had a guerrilla warfare match
Starting point is 00:59:07 and I insisted that we wear white. Oh, I've seen this match. I didn't even realize. I watched that match the other day and I was like, I think it's the Captain EO color. Yeah. That also is, well, you were, yeah, wearing white and started bleeding profusely
Starting point is 00:59:27 yeah what a day to wear white what a day yeah you know it's funny that i didn't even put that together i think the yeah the match is so crazy i think i didn't even notice that yeah it's clearly the colors did you are there any other references you've put into outfits or anything else i'm trying to think um because a lot of times if i try to do something it's too obvious and i don't want to be too horribly obvious i did buy some fabric recently that is like the purple wall here, here, but like, I haven't made it yet. And I don't know that I'm going to be able to wear it any longer. I don't think, I think we've moved on from fun, flashy, bright colors, Candice Loray.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I see. Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not going to wear black though my intent is still to not wear black because I'm not your I'm not the cliche I'm up to no good now I'm going to wear black I'm so mean you're not going to have a hatbox ghost theme I wish
Starting point is 01:00:42 I wish although I will say johnny johnny has been johnny has been telling his gear guy when he's like when we were looking at different color schemes for stuff we liked he said he liked haunted mansion blue specifically haunted mansion what haunted mansion blue is it's basically what any of the ghosts kind of look like there's a weird like bluish glow to them that johnny really likes so the actual like ghosts that are like dancing around in the um like the hitchhiking ghosts and yeah i'm trying to think it was like yeah that's what he likes that's interesting so you could there's probably like a disneyville a subtle disney villain
Starting point is 01:01:31 when i when i go in for hair and when i go in for hair and makeup i have had numerous times where i don't really know how to explain what i want but they do understand if I say I want to be like an evil Disney princess, and then I get my makeup exactly how I thought of it that day. But I do think we're going to... Is that like Maleficent? She's not a princess.
Starting point is 01:01:57 She's not a princess, yes. Don't be ridiculous, Scott. I will say, though, I did find a lot of inspiration from Maleficent recently because I've been known at NXT is like the pint size pixie and everything is like about like the pixie thing and the fairies and Maleficent is an evil fairy. Like she's, she is a fairy. She just got rejected. So I've been using a lot of that for inspiration on things
Starting point is 01:02:26 to come. Oh, that's cool. I've learned my lesson. Maleficent is not an evil princess. She's an evil fairy. Thank you. I'll never forget. She's just misunderstood, really. Do you have a couple
Starting point is 01:02:44 top Disney characters, Candice, that are your favorites? do you have a top do you have a couple top disney characters candace like that your are your favorites i really love alice in wonderland i love i'm gonna i love dumbo it's all the cutest like i don't know it's not even tough characters it's like happy little like pinocchio even ironically i'm afraid of marionettes in real life but i love pinocchio i get that he's kind of in between he's not pure marionette so that's true it's true i guess that they made like a live action though i'd have some serious issues yeah i think every live action pinocchio is terrifying always. Yeah, it shouldn't. We should just not do that. We should just stop
Starting point is 01:03:28 with that. There's multiple Pinocchio movies being made. I've heard. That's so upsetting. My policy, no more Pinocchios, no more pans. We're done with all these. This story does not need to be told again. Yeah, Scott is anti-pan. I'm anti-pan. Let me
Starting point is 01:03:44 be very clear. I just kind of feel like after hook like do we really need any more like exactly it's been a deconstructionist one they did it they they blew it up they changed our perception of what the pan story is so why now are we just doing it doing the regular one again with some creepy English kid. I agree with all of that. I agree with all that, but I do think that the email address I have, Scott is pan at gmail.com is still open. If you want to draw a picture of Scott as Peter pan,
Starting point is 01:04:14 the photo will go right to my email. That email is real. I'd like to just advertise it again real briefly here. I hope that inbox is empty. It better be dry as a bone well right now it's just filled with a lot of uh free trials for streaming services so okay yeah so can't you you two live in orlando now yes How is that as a theme park person? Because like we always fantasize about Orlando. What is it actually like day to day living in Orlando? I love it so much. And we
Starting point is 01:04:54 we get to do these things on occasion where we do either daycations or staycations and we'll go and just like get a hotel for a night or a few nights and we'll stay there and it's usually we do it around cheat day but if it's not like an extreme cheat weekend or like few days then we'll make sure that we get a hotel with a gym and then i don't know i just it's really even though we're right here and we could just drive there and do whatever we want to do and then come back home. It's just kind of nice to feel like there's an escape from the real world for a little bit. And we feel like we're on vacation, even though we're like 30, 40 minutes away from home. And that's so great. And it makes our eating life better. Like if it's not a cheat weekend then johnny can take some
Starting point is 01:05:46 meals like we could take some food with us so that we don't go over the top like eat everything so it's i don't know it's i i love it i just love it so much does johnny want to move back to cleveland eventually yeah do i think he's crazy maybe a little bit cleveland people love cleveland so much i can't even tell you because yeah i i we've been thinking like orland maybe orlando is the good life so it's good to hear that it is indeed correct we are we uh we are right that now that we're now that we're recording this podcast remotely yeah let's just you know now we don't have to be in the same place anymore if you guys want to and by you guys i mean mike and jason moving in together in orlando uh if you
Starting point is 01:06:31 want to fulfill your destiny um i i say go for it there's no yeah i mean i was thinking right before we got quarantined i was like asking lindsey should we just go to japan maybe for five months for five months? For five months? Well, I didn't know. We don't know how long this thing's lasting. Like get a job at that point. Well, the job is the podcast. I could get up in the middle of the night to do the podcast remotely.
Starting point is 01:06:57 I mean, you have to get a job in Japan to stay in Japan. Oh, maybe. Perhaps. I'd be willing to work maybe what else for five months that's a until this that's a lot of money you have to have for five months living in japan there's a reason we didn't do it so well but either way you don't got theme parks anywhere. Right. I know. I know. Yeah. So that part of Japan is not happening. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Well, it's okay. So Orlando is still on the table then for us, maybe. We can at least drive there. When you're traveling, what I always think is interesting, especially being a touring performer, essentially, is that you get to see a lot of different places. Do you try to cram in theme park visits on the road? It's, it's really hard since working with WWE because we're so, um,
Starting point is 01:07:56 we have such a like strict schedule, I guess. I don't even want to say strict. Cause that sounds like they're like, you have to be, but it's like, we're usually like on a road loop weekend, we fly in somewhere. And you're in one town one day, and you may stay there that night. But then the next morning, you get up, you get on a bus and then go to the next place, wrestle that night. And sometimes after that, you get in the bus again, you go to the next place, and then you get to the hotel. Like, so it's, it's so much like, go, go, go, that there's not always a lot of downtime. I will say that sometimes if I'm going
Starting point is 01:08:30 to California, and I'm going to see my family, I'll try to work things so that like, I can stay a little bit longer. And then of course, I go to Disneyland when that happens. But it is kind of tricky. When I was on the Independence, I made it like my goal, if there was a way to go to a theme park, we were going to go. And there was a time when Johnny and Joey and I were all in England to wrestle. And we had shows the next weekend, like Joey and I were going to Germany and then Johnny had another show in England. So we were going to have to stay for a week anyway. And I had talked to one of the promoters about like how difficult would it be
Starting point is 01:09:13 to get over to Paris to go to Disneyland Paris. And they were so great about it. Like they booked the entire trip for us to like go there, get to the, like have the bus pick us up take us to the hotel and like they did all that and like deducted it from like our pay for the shows and it was like so convenient and we so we did that and then when uh i basically anytime i've gone to japan with joey to wrestle uh we went to we went to to went to Tokyo Disney because how could you not? I will say
Starting point is 01:09:47 one of the days we took the trains to get to Disney in Japan and it was the craziest experience of my life. I've never seen so many people crammed into such a small space. It was wild. That was real commuter style. Absolutely wild.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Like, jippie Tokyo in full swing. Gotcha. Yeah. It was like morning rush. It was, I mean, yes, everybody was going to work and like school and just live their lives. And it was, it was just, it blew my mind because when we, when we would go to Japan to wrestle out there, the promotion would put Joey up in one place. And then they put me up in a place that was like right by the train station. So Joey would like walk over to where I was staying. He'd pick me up and then we'd take the train wherever we needed to go. And it usually wasn't too bad,
Starting point is 01:10:42 but that's because, you know, we're jet lagged and we're just trying to figure out how to, you know, function in a different country. And so like the trains were never that bad. So then we went in the morning to get there right after opening. It was the most insane experience of my entire life. I was just going to say, yeah, those parks, like people line up so crazy early just going to say, yeah, those parks, people line up so crazy early and it's like
Starting point is 01:11:08 the fast passes are gone in like two hours. We wanted to be able to do Journey into the Center of the Earth so badly that we were like, we have to get there first thing in the morning or you don't get a fast pass for it and you don't go on it. Did you get it? Like a 200 minute, yeah, oh yeah. Man, amazing. Definitely did.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Fucking ride, oh lord that's so much um that and sinbad were like my favorite thing yeah yes i've been going through sinbad withdraw it's now been a year since i was out there and i i think around the anniversary i listened to the song and it was almost too much to bear it's too emotional this the sinbad song i don't know why i'm so emotional when i hear it i really don't it's great but it's like weird like it's as if i heard it when i was five or like when i was in the nursery as a child like there's some it touched your soul it really touched your soul it's bizarre bizarre how it did that. There's very few newer songs that do that to me.
Starting point is 01:12:09 It's wild. Joey and I were just mind blown that we didn't know the words to this song, but it was stuck in our head. Yes. And we'll just randomly send it to each other once in a while or pictures from the ride. He sent me one the other day and he said, we know who the real, true tiger king was and then he sent me a picture of sinbad and i'm like oh yeah hell yeah sean do sean do yeah i have one on my on my bed in like our guest room i just loved it i just loved everything about that right so oh. I didn't know it was possible to be so in love with the ride.
Starting point is 01:12:47 You didn't really know what was going on, but you knew what was going on. Real magical. There's a guy who's caught in the talons of a bird. A bad guy. Yeah. It is. A bunch of drumming monkeys. That part's less moving.
Starting point is 01:13:03 I don't tear up when I think about all the drumming monkeys. That part's less moving. I don't get like, I don't like tear up when I think about all the drumming monkeys, but it's cool anyway. Yeah. Yeah. I, yes, I will agree. I don't tear up thinking about the drumming monkeys,
Starting point is 01:13:12 but the banana smell is great. Yes. Wait, is there a smell in there? Yes. Oh my God. We just did the fake smell final four. And I,
Starting point is 01:13:23 we didn't even address that. It smells like bananas in the banana room oh we screwed up god i forgot i missed it candace um how how are the treats in japan i was just about to say which popcorn line did you guys wait the longest for? We had the chocolate popcorn. Chocolate. Did you get the honey one by Winnie the Pooh? I did. Yeah, that was great. Now I'm forgetting what I liked the most.
Starting point is 01:13:54 I liked curry a lot. I don't remember why. I waited the longest probably for curry and I think that that was over kind of near the Sinbad stuff. Like their little Adventureland type. You got to look it up. You have to know in advance kind of where each chocolate is served.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Yeah. Yeah. But each cart like smells exactly like what it is. Oh my God. The one I was most surprised with was there was like a fresh cracked pepper. And I loved that one. So simple. It sounds like nothing.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Yeah, yeah. But I think we might add that too. Even if you get to the end of the line, get the popcorn and go like, eh, it's all right. Still, it's a very good base popcorn. And it smells so nice around there that you'll forgive it being just okay. Oh, yeah. I also got, and I'm thinking about this,
Starting point is 01:14:44 and I think maybe we haven't even brought it up on the show, which is strange. I also got ice cream that was in the shape of Donald Duck's butt. His seat, Donald's seat. And he had little, like his little feet sticking out of it
Starting point is 01:15:00 and the ice cream was like his behind. Which was very good. I'm trying to think yeah what other treats do you remember any other treats you had there i will i will say i would like for us to be able out here in america to be able to turn our churros into mickey shaped churros as well because they're churros if you like hold it a certain way and you look at it, it's shaped like a Mickey. And I don't know why we can't figure that out. Like if you're looking down the barrel of the churro.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Yes. I took a picture of it because I was so excited about it. Like it, it's just such a cute little detail that I was like, why, why aren't ours like this? Well, that's a thing you ask yourself with a lot of things at Tokyo Disney. You go, why aren't ours like this? Well, that's a thing you ask yourself with a lot of things at Tokyo Disney.
Starting point is 01:15:46 You go, why aren't ours like this? It's true. It's true. Why isn't our Indiana Jones track so smooth? Why aren't more people here not with any human friends, but instead just with a Duffy who they're sitting down and having every meal with? Yes, I want more of that out here. Candace, can we talk Duffy real quick?
Starting point is 01:16:09 Oh, no. Okay. I suppose. Just a little. I don't look. If this is too controversial, I can cut it right out of the episode. What's this? Wait, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:16:20 What's the reticence here? What's going on? Yeah, you go ahead my my cousin and i believe that duffy is ridiculous and we've hated duffy since the first time that we saw duffy and uh i just felt like it was a money-making ploy and i just wasn't about that and so i didn't want to support duffy and what Duffy is about and um I mean to the point where when I was at Tokyo Disney and we're walking around and you you just like go through that Duffy area I I was so confused I was like how is this even a thing and like to realize that Duffy is more famous out there than Mickey Mouse is just like so upsetting to me. And I was just appalled.
Starting point is 01:17:09 But Johnny and I, when we first stayed at a Disney resort and they have their channel and there's like a Duffy bear bedtime story thing. And Johnny asked me about Duffy bear and discovered how much I just despise Duffy Bear but he he made sure to let me know every time Duffy Bear was on so that we can watch the Duffy Bear story time and uh I thought I was being really like funny this year or this past Christmas and my friend had taken when I was in, my friend had taken me with her to company D and I saw this like Duffy bear and he was like, I don't know, five bucks or something like that. And I was like, I'm going to buy this for Johnny for Christmas as a gag gift, because I can't tell you. I mean, as you saw with the turtle calm in the box, Christmases and his
Starting point is 01:18:02 birthday are very stressful because I have to find all these things that don't exist in these boxes. Like it's ridiculous. So I was like, I'm going to make him think he got this sweet gift and it's going to be a stupid, dumb Duffy bear. And he just had no reaction to Duffy. And so it wasn't even worth it.
Starting point is 01:18:19 And I have so much regret spending any money on Duffy. Do you know this exactly happened with Mike and his girlfriend, Lindsay? This Duffy gift exchange that didn't really go over? Yeah. I just don't. I thought Johnny would at least pretend to care about Duffy. I mean, like, oh, yay. Well, I got Lindsay, my girlfriend, Duffy kind of as a gag because we'd always make jokes about Duffy.
Starting point is 01:18:46 And I got it for her for her birthday. And she was kind of upset. I wish he would have at least been upset. He was just nothing like like it did nothing to him. He had no emotional feeling towards this Duffy. And I was like, oh, my God, I just spent money on this for nothing. Now I became more upset than he did I think maybe you need to get the rest of
Starting point is 01:19:12 Duffy's friends for a reaction Oh god Shella Tony, Shelly May I think then maybe there would be some sort of reaction I think you need to get the whole family of characters I just then maybe there would be some sort of reaction. I think you need to get the whole family of characters.
Starting point is 01:19:27 I just... Wow. I feel like with Candace despises Duffy, maybe we have a more controversial opinion than Scott doesn't like living with the land. Maybe, yeah. Am I off the hook now? No, never. I'll always be chastised for this.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Johnny, I can't get Johnny on living with the land either. He's, he's out. Anything educational, anything educational, I cannot get Johnny to do. And it's devastating for me because like I took him to do carousel progress once and like, I'm pumped about it because I'm like, we don't have this at Disneyland. It's a classic and it's so great. And I'm pumped and I'm happily watching this thing. We get out. He was like, that was the worst thing. He hates it so much. And then I took him to see
Starting point is 01:20:17 Hall of Presidents and he hated it. And so I can't even get him to go see American Adventure now because I've discovered that if it's educational, he refuses to do it. I can't imagine with that pattern that he will like American Adventure. No, I think he's wrong on Carousel of Progress, though. He's got to embrace the fans and the old machines and the grandma of doing VR in 94. There's a lot of wonder there. But yeah, keep at him uh he'll come try as i might uh but yeah so will you go on living with the land alone now um
Starting point is 01:20:56 i haven't been on it and so i thought the i i thought that one of the last times that we went we were with tomaso and his wife and their baby. And I was like, oh, this is something the baby can go on. And Tommaso and his wife, Jesse, were asking about it. And I was hyping it up. And as I'm trying to hype it up, Johnny was just like, it's the worst ride. It is so stupid. You just see a bunch of plants and food.
Starting point is 01:21:21 And I was just like, it's educational, man. I have a kindred spirit i'm so happy this is i want to say like that's the biggest heel move scott has ever made on the show is trashing living with the land he's turned most of the audience against him just by saying just by declaring the ride boring what a insane statement that it is boring the never ever uttered by any guest in history statement i don't even know that that's one that you can i don't even know that living with the lands when we keep like but it's air condition it's great yeah that's a big draw i don't know some some parts are but some parts are, but some parts are very hard. Maybe. Yeah. It is a green ass.
Starting point is 01:22:10 I have gone and watched American adventure by myself. And then I have also done great moments with Mr. Lincoln by myself at Disneyland. Sure. But that's, you know, I feel like those are just classic things that you just should be doing. And I'm a nerd and I'm i like history and stuff and so like i just can only do those things anymore when he's not with me let it wash over you without the pressure of needing the person you're with to be entertained you can just envelop yourself in it yeah do you can you go on tiki room together can you watch tiki room that's a whole other thing too i don't want to bring up pants love i love the tiki room and i love like trader sam's and he is not as big on those things gotcha so he'll go see it but he's
Starting point is 01:23:03 never going to be one to sing with the birds and he's never going to be one to clap along. And it's I mean, and that's fine. But to also not be having, you know, we may should enjoy what we love. That's what the relationship is. It's so true. That's true love. You know, that's true. Because terrible flaws.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Yes. true love you know that's true because terrible flaws yes animatronic lincoln and animatronic birds are no-goes i think i think you know i think change can happen i think i think one day could maybe if i like pick him up a like dole whip with the pineapple upside down cake and i'm like oh follow me we're to a nice cool air-conditioned place with entertainment where you can eat this it'll be great so like so essentially if you construct a wily coyote-esque trap uh yes yes um so let's let's bring it right let's bring it around to treats before we wrap up uh do we have like i think we should all go around and like on the topic like what are what's our mount rushmore of treats like like if we build it together i mean jason i think you probably as soon as i said
Starting point is 01:24:17 that you could list off your your favorites we've we've did a little of it already, but I was going to say, like, wait, don't I do this every episode? It's a good point. Also, can it can a Mount Rushmore? Is a Mount Rushmore allowed to have 15 presidents? All right. This is about OK. Our Mount Rushmore of treats can have up to 15, but doesn't have to have 15 up to 15. in that ballpark you know i think on cliff wall there's plenty of room i think it'll be more fun if we build our mount rushmore together actually instead of having yeah that's probably because i feel i'm having like so much anxiety right now trying to choose sure um i will i'll start i'll start I put a double scoop ice cream sprinkle waffle cone. The specifically the holiday sprinkles, the purple and orange sprinkles with a scoop of strawberry and a scoop of
Starting point is 01:25:18 cookie dough in the cone. That is my first entry on to our Mount Rushmore. Holy cow. Jason. Yeah, I'm going to go very specific. Candice, I wanted to ask if you had ever had these. I'm going to go with zebra domes. Does everyone know what a zebra dome is?
Starting point is 01:25:34 Yes. I don't know that I do. You can only find them at the Animal Kingdom Lodge at Boma the Buffet or I think they have them in a cooler at the gift shop, like a fridge at the gift shop. It is white cake. There are these little domes, white cake with a coating
Starting point is 01:25:56 of white chocolate ganache, a drizzle of dark chocolate ganache, and then in between the cake and the ganache is, oh gosh, I don't know how to pronounce to bring ama amarula liqueur mousse yeah moose domes moose yeah they're essentially yeah they're moose boats they're they're boozy boozy they're so good they're really good so good i don't think i i don't think i've had i've had something maybe like that but i certainly didn't have the one in animal kingdom i mean that sounds like a good...
Starting point is 01:26:25 Honestly, that's kind of a fancier treat than I thought you'd go right off the bat, but I like the choice. Well, you know what? Part of the appeal is it's very specific and it's exclusive. It's got that theme park exclusive to this two locations. Oh, Jason, you're sending a photo of it. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, I like that. Who wants to go next?
Starting point is 01:26:48 Scott? I could just sit it all out. I can't get nearly as specific. He's the longest descriptors. I don't know. I get Mickey bars. I don't know. Mickey bar. All right, a Mickey bar from Scott. Scott, don't you want to describe what it's like
Starting point is 01:27:03 to eat it? Describe eating a Mickey bar like Joe Rohde describing the Las Vegas strip on Instagram. To pierce the shell. A hard outer shell that makes you wonder, could there be anything soft inside? Or is it so
Starting point is 01:27:19 brittle that once I make my way through, it will only be nails and chalk? But no, once you pierce the chocolate shell, what is inside but sweet, soft vanilla ice cream flavors that are opposites and yet work in concert together. And it is harmony that the ice cream ingredients must have and harmony that we must have as beings on this earth. Wow. I feel like this was ready. Thank you. Wow. I just went I went into a roadie trance that was good i won't make you do that again i won't make you to do it i can't top that yeah but you could just say yeah is there what treat would you add to this this rock this giant there
Starting point is 01:28:02 is one there is one that johnny and i many a times gone completely out of our way for because it's at the Contemporary Resort. And it is the peanut butter pie. Oh, interesting. I've not had this. Johnny loves this pie so much. And we've literally gone completely out of our way to get to the contemporary to get him the pie and I've even had times where like I went with my cousin one time to Magic Kingdom without Johnny and to bring him home a peace offering for leaving him home i went after i walked from magic kingdom to the
Starting point is 01:28:47 contemporary got the peanut butter pie and then brought this like happiness home to him and he like he couldn't even be mad it's his favorite thing in the entire world wow his favorite disney dessert ever where do you find that the contempo cafe the wave what are we talking here yeah it's at the contempo cafe they have it in like the little case that they would have the cupcakes and all that good stuff yeah he loves it have you ever i don't even know how to explain it like it's just it's uh it's so good it is good have you ever tried to make it no because i so there's been a few things that we've gotten in the parks that I've been like I probably could figure out how to make this but unless I had a recipe it would be a little tricky
Starting point is 01:29:35 to figure some of the bits out if that makes sense like it wouldn't be exactly the same and therefore I don't know that he would like it as much right you would want it to be perfect and it's there's a couple elements that would be a little off probably yeah yeah well it sounds good i mean i next time i get there i would like to do that that sounds good i need to try jason's treat too so i guess let's let's we'll stick with four right now so our mount rushmore of treats is double scoop sprinkle hall uh halloween cone jason what's the name of yours uh zebra dome zebra dome uh contempo peanut butter pie and mickey bar i mean that's a good mix i think because mickey bar is a classic
Starting point is 01:30:20 the ice cream is kind of a classic and those other two are uh fancy delicious treats yeah and uh teddy roosevelt's still on there too he's not he's not a treat but uh you know just to not be original not rush for he's just there he's just hanging out oh wait what what if he's eyeing it it's fogging up his glasses he's uh he hungry. And he's got rock, knife, and fork with his hands. And his tongue's sticking out. He's very excited. Just ready to rip. Ready to rip all these
Starting point is 01:30:53 desserts. He's an animatronic, too. He's multiple times an animatronic in Hall of Presidents and American Adventure. Two attractions that Johnny won't go on. Hmm. Should he? and American Adventure, two attractions that Johnny won't go on. Hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Should he? There should be an animatronic of him with a knife and fork somewhere in the parks. Is there an animatronic with a knife and fork that we can think of real quick before we're done here? Yeah, is anyone eating or about to eat dessert? Oh, wait, wait, I think maybe Mully
Starting point is 01:31:24 and Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. Oh, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, because he's got a spinning dinner, right? I'm trying to look it up now. Jason's nightmare, a spinning dinner. I'm trying to look it up because I'm pretty sure you run him. Like he's sitting at a table.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Oh, you know what? He may only have a food in his head. Like a, he is eating, but he does not have a fork and knife. I'm seeing, it looks like a Turkey leg though that he has. Yeah. I'm seeing a picture of mole with a Turk, like a, uh, maybe a drumstick in his hand. Yeah. Maybe he just got a Turkey leg in the park and he was like, I'll just get back to work
Starting point is 01:32:03 now. And he looks like he's been caught he looks like he's like not supposed to be eating that yeah he maybe isn't maybe not are there a lot of treats and rides I'm sure like
Starting point is 01:32:17 like Pleasure Island and Pinocchio's During Journey for sure is a lot of like candy canes and cupcakes and stuff. Is that the treatiest ride potentially? There's a lot of honey in Winnie the Pooh
Starting point is 01:32:34 and that's a treat to him. There you go. Yes, that's probably the most food-centric, at least that I can think of at the moment. Sushi on Monsters, Inc. There's rum on Pirates, if that's a treat. I guess rum is a treat. To some extent.
Starting point is 01:32:51 To some extent. There's no... I guess there's food in the Haunted Mansion in the dining room. They have a spread. There's that one scene in Rise of the Resistance where they all stop dead in their tracks and say, let's all have a big glass of blue milk, everyone. That's only if that's only like one out of every eight rides.
Starting point is 01:33:15 You get that. Yeah. It's one of the paths. Not everybody knows about that one. I'm not sure everyone's gotten it. But yeah, it's really fun just to watch everybody like get along for a minute and then get back to the chase yeah yeah and it's the first it's the first milk drinking animatronic kylo ren animatronic yeah candace the thoughts on blue and green milk
Starting point is 01:33:39 i love blue milk yeah green milk is not my favorite, but, but I have gotten, um, out here. We have the adult versions of the beverages and they are both very nice as adult beverages. And I would go so far as to say that the green one is better as the adult
Starting point is 01:34:01 version. That's the one I had. Yeah. I think the flavor on its own lends itself more to a margarita adjacent drink. It's kind of weird on its own without alcohol.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Yeah. How about butter beer? Yes? No? Too sweet? Yes, but I... This is another one Johnny and I agree on. So then when he orders butter beer, it's a little sad for me, but I prefer it in its natural form. Johnny prefers the slushy version. I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I agree with you. The more soda one. I feel like you don't, you don't get the full effect of the foam if you're drinking it through a straw. Agreed. And then what's the point? What's the point?
Starting point is 01:34:42 The foam is fun. Um, is that there's hot too, right? They have hot now? Yeah. I have not. Hot's good. I like hot.
Starting point is 01:34:50 What's your ranking, Jason, of the types? Cold, hot, frozen. Frozen last. Frozen last. And what about, have you had butterbeer fudge? I can't remember if I've had butterbeer fudge i've had the butterbeer pot de creme again a mousse mousse kind of that is very sweet interesting i've had the butterbeer fudge it's good for like a bite but it's so insanely sweet
Starting point is 01:35:18 yeah um but i i appreciate the effort i appreciate what they were trying to do. I don't want to insult the bakers at Universal. Hey, Candice, these parks open back up. What's the first treat you're going for? What's the thing you'll be the most dying to have after a bunch of months off? I feel like I want a churro really badly. I think that that's my ultimate safe bet, no matter how I'm feeling, no matter what is going on in my life, what I shouldn't, shouldn't be eating. Like,
Starting point is 01:35:49 because I only like Disney parks churros. So it's like, and I don't know why, but nobody else does it the way that they do somewhere else that I've been like, no, not like no not no no just not the same huh very specific about disneyland and disney world churros i won't even get the ones that at uh like disney springs or downtown disney like there's different like churro stands that they'll have but i won't even get those it's not the same interesting yeah i always tell johnny i don't know what he's gonna do when i'm pregnant and we're in
Starting point is 01:36:25 Cleveland. And I'm like, Oh, I want a churro or I want a dole whip. And then what's he going to do? You have to import them from like, he'll have to have like somebody go to the park and send them in the mail.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Yeah. That'll be Mike's full-time job. When you move to Orlando. Yeah. Churro mailer. Yeah. Hey, if it's lucrative, I mean won't be but if it is i guess i'm trying to think of any other orlando hot spots do you have you have you guys been to the dr toothsome chocolate emporium at city yes yes we have um any and yes it's it's the food isn't like out of this world but the concept
Starting point is 01:37:10 of it's cool and like yeah i don't know we go there once in a once in a while right i had like a shake there yeah and it was it was good you have to get it you have to get one. But see, Johnny lost his mind when Downtown Disney got a Salt and Straw. Oh, right. We would rather go there and get ice cream there.
Starting point is 01:37:39 Every single time we go and stay in a hotel up there, we have to get Salt and Straw. and he gets whatever the seasonal flavor is. Gotcha. So have you tried most of the flavors at salt and straw? Yeah. We've had some shipped to our house before too. Wow. Wow. Yeah. He's very serious, especially about ice cream. Hey, Jason can appreciate that. Much respect. Much respect.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Ice cream and donuts. He's very intense about those things. Very serious business when we're dealing with donuts and ice cream. Interesting. Do you have flavors in your house at all times of ice cream? No. There's some things we can't have in the house at all times, which is why I can't bake all the time because if this stuff is just sitting in the house, he's going to eat it.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Right. And he's always like on the most strict diet ever. So we won't have full on ice cream. He will eat it. I mean, we've had it, we've had it where we've gotten like salt and straw, we'll order it. And we're like, okay, well, you know, cheap days in a week. So we'll, they'll just sit in the freezer for a little bit and then halfway through the week he's like maybe we'll just share one and then or he's like or maybe i'll just have a bite or two i'm like you're never you are not going to just eat a bite yeah of ice cream like that's not gonna happen how it works impossible yeah no he's like my cats and food if If you just leave it out, they'll eat the entire bag. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Just choke on the ground. Do you guys, do you get do one cheat day a week? Is that how you do it? It depends. Right now we are, and it's taken a while because like Johnny was like a little heavier when he was younger. And so like, he's really come, like he's lost a lot of weight and he's come a long way and, but he's still in his mind.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Hasn't accepted that he has physically changed his metabolism. And like, like it's a concept he just, he will not accept. And so if we do have a cheat day, he thinks he just put on like 50 pounds and I'm like but you definitely didn't you still have like 20 abs like we're you're good and um so right now because um we don't have like a takeover on the horizon or anything of that nature, he'll have like one meal or like a day a week, depending on
Starting point is 01:40:07 how he feels. But, um, I am more likely to have like one a week, but if we get really, if it's like a takeovers on the horizon, then we will kind of, I'm trying to be more aware of his needs and I will try to not just eat whatever I want whenever I want because he'll go like three, four weeks without any kind of cheat meal. And it's crazy. Yeah. Then he, and he indulges after, which is when we usually do our like Disney trips or we almost always have a Disney trip plan right around takeover because he can just eat anything and everything he wants oh yeah yeah and that's when he'll get like cartons of and
Starting point is 01:40:50 cartons of ice cream shipped to the house or like brownies and yeah it gets crazy yeah and then for them and then he gets sick and we're a little sad for a second but so you guys what basically what you're saying is you you get the hell beat out of you and then you uh reward yourselves for yes yes we well you know i i learned that when your body is healing you need extra calories so your body can heal so we we need the extra calories and that's fine it's fine yeah uh and for the listener uh takeover is like a big wrestling event where there's like big, like kind of longer matches. I don't know how I would describe it. Bigger matches.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Yeah. Yeah, it's like our big, like, I just don't even, it's our pay-per-view show. And it's a kind of big deal for us because there's a little bit more, there's more eyes on us. And usually, usually there's a lot more on the line at those. So it's kind of like a culmination, like having little story,
Starting point is 01:41:55 little mini Superbowls, you know, like little mini Superbowls along the way. And that's our takeovers. Right. Every single one of them feels like the biggest day ever. I don't know how Johnny has done so many of them and is not stressed out every single time. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:11 I mean, from watching them is like, it does feel like it would be the most draining in a good way. Like, I mean, I've been to one live and it's just, it's exhausting. Like, you're like, whoa whoa i really like saw some crazy crazy events because everyone is so excited and it's the culmination of so many storylines and stuff so there's no better thing to do than just treat yourself a little after oh yeah i mean everyone's earned it for for god's sake so if only this Mount Rushmore that we invented was a real place you could just go devour it. Jason thinks
Starting point is 01:42:49 every podcast taping is like a takeover for him. Yeah, I leave it all on the floor. I leave it all up. Good. He's in bed for weeks. This is it. We started
Starting point is 01:43:04 at 9 a.m. California time. And with the current situation, and well, yeah, let's say with the current situation, this is the earliest I have been awake in a month. I thought I was wondering, yeah, what your average wake up time has been lately. I've been doing the 2am to 10am sleep shift or 3 to 11. Well then
Starting point is 01:43:31 just have a couple gallons of ice cream and then get to bed at noon. Yeah. Not that far off. Well do we have anyone else have any thoughts on treats? Any any thoughts on treats any closing thoughts on treats
Starting point is 01:43:48 we love them I was going to say they're just great treat yourself that's yes everyone especially now during this time treat yourself Scott what do you think you're you're the least treat
Starting point is 01:44:06 centric of the of of us uh that's that's kind of true but it's nice to talk about them talk about things we can't have live vicariously through people uh in the past who could have treats right and uh candace thank you thank you for making trees thank you for providing them to hungry theme park goers uh for so many years thank you for your your service and uh you you survived podcast the ride thank you for being here uh let's exit through the the gift shop is there anything you'd like to plug um well i would feel silly if i did not add that you can catch NXT on USA 8 PM, Wednesday nights. And,
Starting point is 01:44:46 uh, I have no crazy, interesting name on Twitter or Instagram other than at Candace Lurie. So creative. Yeah. Hey, that's okay.
Starting point is 01:44:58 It doesn't have to be a showy name or anything. It's easier. The more you have weird little, little you know nicknames and stuff then nobody can remember it so uh um uh wait you called yourself something else though like uh wait there's something about something about pixie or pint-sized pixie okay so you don't go by pint-sized pixie but you will answer to pint-sized pixie. You know, as you do. Sure, sure. So, you'll have to come back when we're all allowed to see human beings again in
Starting point is 01:45:32 person. Yes, that'd be great. Who knows when that'll happen, but as soon as it does, we'll make that happen. And maybe I'll convince Johnny to go on one of these attractions once everything is open again and tell him i've just missed it so much and then we will report back to you guys with
Starting point is 01:45:51 how he does yeah i would love it would be very funny if like he got he went on all of those rides and then just gave a review of all of them his review his review would maybe be yeah anything scott said would but pale in comparison to the reviews of those rides uh by johnny let's get the let's get this villain heat off of me a little bit uh but uh yeah hey as for us uh check us out on twitter instagram and facebook and there's three bonus episodes every month at patreon.com slash podcast the right that's the second gate lots of fun over there anything else fellas no I'm good
Starting point is 01:46:31 I'm a little hungry for something sweet I'll be honest time for something sweet for something sweet as Winnie the Pooh would say Jason what are you going to eat for Jason what are you going to eat next well Michael I am eyeing a Reese's little mini Easter bunny that is sitting on this table, and it's got my name written all over it. A bunny?
Starting point is 01:46:53 It's shaped like a bunny. Yeah, it's a little mini bunny. Oh, okay. So it's a smaller. It's not a full-sized rabbit. Yeah, it's not a full-sized. I'm not going to eat a full-sized rabbit. No, don't be silly.
Starting point is 01:47:04 I'm just going to eat some regular-sized 11 a.m. I'm not going to eat a full size rabbit. No, don't be silly. I'm just going to eat some regular sized 11 a.m. chocolate. Okay. That's all right. All right. Well, I'm good. All right. Later. Bye, everybody. Bye, everybody. Forever Dog Production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gairdner, Brett Boehm, Joe Cilio, and Alex Ramsey.
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