Podcast: The Ride - Turkey Legs with Zac Oyama
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FOREVER!
DOG!
Warning, the following podcast weighs about 1.5 pounds.
And clocks in at 720 calories and 36 grams of fat.
It has been cured with a salt solution and many say it has a ham-like taste.
Zach Oyama is with us today to talk turkey legs on Podcast the Ride.
Welcome to Podcast the Ride, the show where we usually talk turkey figuratively,
but today we're talking turkey literally and also figuratively.
I'm Jason Sheridan, joined here, as always, by Mike Carlson.
I'm here.
There was one time, real quick, that you submitted for Prairie Home Companion.
I submitted for years to Prairie Home Companion. I feel like that would have been perfect for it i think so yeah so i was pretty proud of those those stupid idiots who didn't hire you really they should be uh very sad now
after they hear that intro scott garner also here he nailed the tone but yeah well enough
time will tell whoa you're perfect for it too wow at least i have the
intonation right at least yeah that's all you need i assume knowing almost nothing about that thing
you know all i know is lake wobagon lake wobagon i submitted for both hosts i can't remember the
second guy's name because that guy took over and then they changed the name to like oh yeah yeah
something else was that because
of them a me too with garrison keeler or was that before so okay i think they were trying to go in a
different direction i mean they didn't do any of the old directions uh yeah yeah well yeah it's
always a good direction ideally yeah if you can uh well you should be the host of it let's be honest
i mean i would love that yeah
yeah so let's put that into the universe uh well and let's let's uh bring in our guest to see if
he has any uh folksy wisdom for us oh boy do i and does he agree jason should be the host of
perry home companion uh you know him from his work at college humor and associated properties
and his work at the UCB Theater.
We didn't realize just now,
like we did not ask you how you want to be introduced.
It's Zach Oyama.
Thank you.
Associated Properties is honestly perfect for me.
Right?
And also the host that took over,
his name is Chris Thiele.
Chris Thiele, yes.
The mandolin player from Nickel Creek.
Whoa, really?
I almost never know trivia.
And that was one of the few things I knew.
He's a John Bryan musician.
He's amazing.
I've seen him pop in at Largo and stuff.
But I don't know anything about his hosting work.
So I should wish he loses his job so Jason gets the job?
I don't know.
I think I feel comfortable saying that, too.
Jason, you should take over for him. Something should happen him you should take over like a nice enough uh guy i
mean i had no contact with him but i watched some samples to try and get a vibe uh for it
very talented musician i could i could pull chris i couldn't pull thea that's a very distinctive
name gotcha yeah yeah uh eventually his morning show moment will come where he's kind of over the hill and doesn't really have the spirit anymore.
And you'll be the, oh, what's her name?
I haven't watched it in a long time.
Her name's like Barley Mandrew or something.
Oh, Reese?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
What is it?
I'm sure it's Barley Mandrew.
Don't bother to look it up.
It's like Sam Strongfella.
Sam Stryver or something.
Sam Spunkwell.
Yeah.
Something with a lot of spunk.
It's Sally Headstrong.
You'll go viral talking about coal,
and they'll have no choice but to put you on.
You've done more publicity for the morning show
than Apple and the Golden Globes combined. you a morning show man oh love it definitely seen it
well i definitely have apple plus in a or whatever it's called and uh definitely watch that show
sure yeah i mean good on you i'm looking up her name right now it's's Bradley Jackson. Bradley Jackson. I said Barley.
Very close to Barley.
Bradley Jackson.
Yeah.
Wow.
It sounds like, you know, like Jackson Brown or James Taylor,
like another acoustic guitar kind of musician.
From the 70s?
From the 70s.
Yeah.
Which maybe that's what, like,
what's why we trust her inherently, because she sounds like America.
Like those people do.
They were from a more simple time in America when we believed in America, and that's what
Bradley can get us back to.
Yeah.
And she's got spunk.
Sure does.
But so does Jason.
That's what Jason is to Bradley.
Jason's a lot like Bradley Jackson.
Yeah.
I've got spunk.
Zach, I would describe you as having spunk.
Oh, thank you.
I think I would take that.
I feel like, gosh, it's very hard to describe yourself.
But I think spunk would be something I would, I feel fine taking.
I feel like I'm not good at taking compliments or anything, but Spunk doesn't quite feel like a compliment.
It could be perceived as if that's the only quality we know about you.
It's like, well, tell me more.
Yeah.
I need a couple more.
It's not bad.
I think it's good.
Yeah.
It could be passive aggressive.
It could be wielded in a certain way.
Yes.
It doesn't sound like from Jason.
That's sincere. I feel like it is sincere from Jason. It is sincere. He's a certain way. Yes. It doesn't sound like from Jason. I mean, that's sincere.
I feel like it is sincere from Jason.
It is sincere.
He's a fan of your property.
But if like a 50-year-old man who like was my boss or something told me that I had spunk
and like didn't look at me or something, like that would feel really bad.
Oh, yeah.
I just clenched my soda can when you said that.
Yeah, it does feel like threatening in some way.
This is tangentially related, but I got to go to the Annie Awards because Lindsay's show,
Infinity Train, was nominated.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, cool.
And the category was presented by Ed Asner and the guy who did the voice of Krang on
the Old Ninja Turtle show, among many other voices.
And they did the famous Mary Tyler Moore line about Sp line about spunk lou grant hey this is for the
children you're like i hate spunk or whatever and they did that krang and lou grant did him
wait was he playing krang he didn't play krang in that moment but he was playing krang in a different
bit during he did the krang voice wow so lou grant and Krang were presenting Lindsay's category Wow
And he does look like a little muscly brain
Right?
He
Honestly he looks like kind of a
Handsomish 70 year old
Unfortunately
Because I was like shocked
Because you assumed he was a tiny little brain
I thought he was real
But he more resembled the suit that Crane...
He looked a lot like the suit with hair.
Crane's android body with hair.
So I believe his name is Pat.
That's a plus up.
It's too bad that guy had no hair.
That fake guy.
Pat Fraley.
Fraley, I believe is his name.
Anyway, that reminded me of that.
That's a good moment.
So, Zach, when I asked you to be on the show,
you came out.
I was saying, well, we usually ask for a few options
or is there stuff you really like that you want to talk about?
And you came out with two things.
And the one was turkey legs.
Yes.
Which is, pun intended, the meat of the episode today.
Whoa, Prairie Home, come on, listen up.
Pack it gross. Just submit come on. Listen up. Pack it, Gross.
Just submit this episode.
I should.
Mail the podcast.
I'll do a little punch up on my old samples
and then this episode.
How about we trade Chris for you?
We'll make like a sports trade.
We'll take the host of Prairie Home as our third man
and you'll go to Prairie Home to be the host.
He's going to move away? and you'll go to Prairie Home to be the host.
He's going to move away?
I have to go to Minneapolis?
And then we get a lot more like guitar plucking.
Yeah, we hear stories about John Bryan and stuff.
Yeah.
But you had another story as well.
Yes. When I said, like, is there parks, do you have parks experiences you want to talk about?
This was just a weird story that came to mind when I was just trying to think of any park specifics.
But, yeah, like, the last time I went to Disney, I went with my girlfriend and her friend.
And, like, we were just trying to, like, you know, we hadn't been in a couple of years and trying to, like, kind of do everything and when we were in uh you know tomorrowland
we got kind of like there's this you know harried disney parks worker just trying to stop anyone to
get like them to listen to like a timeshare presentation or something and to get that
to do that you would get uh free fast passes to like other rides and uh we like kind of walked by him and we're like, no, I don't, no way.
And then we thought about it and we're like,
he was saying it was only 30 minutes.
And we're like, you know what?
Maybe that actually makes sense to go sit through this weird presentation
and like get a fast pass for anything.
Anything except for guardians was the deal.
And so eventually we like, you know,
came back to him and said we would do it and then we got like
it was clearly like getting worse and worse as the time went on where he was like great we just
got to wait for a couple more people and then we had to stand there for like 20 more minutes and
it's like us like trying to decide if we should leave or not and then eventually we get like
maybe one other person tagging along with us
and then we he's like all right great now we just have to go to the conference room in one of the
hotels and he like takes us out of the park and we're walking all the way through like is it
downtown disney's is it really whatever that area is so this is from you were at a disney vacation
club like booth yeah in tomorrowland yes which is pretty much just a wagon.
It looks like a rocket.
It looks like a rocket.
Yeah.
And with pictures, with binders, and a guy there.
And the presentation area is at the Disneyland Hotel, probably about as far away as you can get.
Like a 25-minute walk, for sure.
Yeah. And the whole time
we're like we're we should probably leave we made a mistake but he's clearly been doing this for 20
years or whatever and he's so used to people trying to walk away like he he started telling
the story and it was like um i think he had like he would never stop talking as well just to like
never give you the opportunity to say actually i think we want to leave and he had like, he would never stop talking as well, just to like, never give you the
opportunity to say, actually, I think we want to leave.
And he launched it.
Like, as we were like out walking out of the park to downtown Disney or whatever, to the
hotel, he starts going into his conspiracy theory about princess die and Dodi Faye.
He was like, he was like, I, um, let's just say I don't give England any of my money.
And he was trying to say that they were assassinated.
And he was like, I've gone to his apartment
and I've made a trip there.
I think we never got his full take,
but it was just so weird in the middle of
this like you get these benefits and these benefits and i don't think doty fayed was
a regular car crash obviously uh you get the fast pass you know like just like peppered in
perfectly like just like a sketch character or something and like uh it's just this bizarre
string of events where like, he's now launching into
this.
And now I'm just like, snapped back into it.
Like, I was trying to leave and now I'm like, I have to hear every opinion you have about
this.
But he didn't really like, that was basically the ceiling of the Princess Di opinions.
Like, I was trying to get more out of him, but he like, wouldn't really.
At a certain point, I think he knew he had us hooked.
And then we get to the hotel and um it
seems like the presentation has started and he like his attitude completely changes now that
he thinks he missed it and this this like 45 year old man starts running around the disney hotel
like in his slacks tucked into his like polo shirt going oh fuck oh shit he's actually cussing and like we're like wow this is really interesting
and we like follow him and eventually he finds the room where the uh presentations going on and
like they were able to sneak us in and uh we heard a really sad presentation appealing to like don't
you want to secure your children's futures just in case anything happens to you.
Don't you want them to have a vacation?
And it's like that's what the sell for the Disney parks thing is.
In case you die in a little crash mysteriously.
What year was this?
This was like a year and a half.
It was right before Star Wars.
I haven't been there since the Star Wars stuff is open,
but it was right before that.
Oh, so in 2018, I mean, everybody's thinking about Princess Di and Dodie. I haven't been there since the Star Wars stuff is open, but like it was right before that.
Oh, so in 2018, I mean, everybody's thinking about Princess Di and Dodi Foyer.
Yeah.
This is a different time you have to keep in mind.
That's what I wanted.
Historical context for it.
Yeah. So that makes so much more sense.
I wonder if that's like, because he obviously like there's tips when you're like, like standing
outside a grocery store and
you want people to sign a petition the tip i've always heard and i've never done that is you like
you put something in their hands yeah and then they can't leave because they have part like
your thing and then you don't take it back from them like you put your hands down and you let it
like leaving them holding it and they can't psychological trick sure uh for doing that
uh so this guy has obviously figured out a good way to walk and do that.
It was so stressful.
And then also he like had our cell phone numbers when we like signed the book thing.
And so like he called us when it was time to go do the thing.
And that's like kind of, we were like kind of close enough that we're like, I guess we could try it.
And then like after we had done the presentation, he was like, he called us and he was like, I just want, I think you guys are really great. And I want to set you up with a little gift. And we're like i guess we could try it and then like after we had done the presentation he was like he called us and he was like i just want i think you guys are really great
and i want to set you up with a little gift and we're like oh cool like well i have no idea what
this is going to be we walk back over to the booth and it's like uh like some some incredible two
stickers and like one of those like fast pass like bracelet things that like you can scan instead of a like it was almost it was a bunch of trash.
I want to set you up.
Yeah.
Stickers.
I pulled some strings.
My sticker contact.
We're like all 30.
Like, OK.
You met the Willie Loman of like timeshare presentation of like wrapping it up like kind of like it was really
upsetting yeah did they offer because when i did i did it like six months ago and i was alone i was
at the disneyland hotel working on my computer and a woman came over and i thought she was gonna
like arrest me for just loitering uh and she said she was like est learning ask questions and then i realized oh she's trying
to get me to do a presentation and then she explained the fast pass and i was like you know
what i should do this so i did it and i was alone in the room but then after i was done with the sad
presentation only you getting the presentation it was me and me alone i was asking a ton of questions
and i was like trying to i was real
interested i was trying to i was i would say like oh so this is like an investment he goes no no no
we can't say investment it's not an investment i was like oh okay but like you own something yes
you own something but we can't say investment and i go what if i wanted because like well basically
what it works how it works is like you have a home resort so you pick one of the hotels that's that's your quote-unquote home resort but then you get a certain amount of
points every year to get a different hotel anywhere around the world and they have properties
everywhere properties everywhere i assure you they have properties everywhere yeah but there's only
like two hotels left that you can have be your home resort because like rooms have filled up on
every everything else so i would say like well can i get like a polynesian or that's like sold out and he
goes well i can see what i can do and i'd be like well what do you mean you can see what you can do
like things come open he goes all i can tell you is i can see what i can do it's like car buying
right and i was like well i gotta check i gotta check right so there's like a whole level he goes my job is to make you happy he said it's like a robot like yeah yeah do you want me to kiss you
i can do that he does seem pre-programmed with 25 phrases so it's pretty interactive yes you
are triggering distinct answers but you you'd run out at some point yeah uh and then he goes so
what i can do is if you didn't did they
did did they do this i'm trump uh tripping all over my words did they offer you like a year's
worth of points if you signed up today yeah there was like a powerpoint that had like certain point
values and i think the guy like uh my girlfriend's friend davis like uh and my friend i should say uh
he he was like pretty savvy with
this stuff and like started crunching the numbers in the room and like whispered to us he's like
you have to go like literally every weekend or something for this to be worth it yeah yeah it's
for people who want to go every year or every other year i mean that's what my my family was
in it in the 90s and we would there was a few years where
we went every year where we would bank the points and one year we went for two weeks uh and that is
a long time to be in the bubble like that i mean we definitely did sea world and universal like we
did other stuff too uh but at the time old key west was like the main that was the vacation club
hotel right there weren't a ton.
I think shortly thereafter, they opened up the Boardwalk Hotel in Florida to be Vacation
Club.
But they're building a fourth tower at the Disneyland Hotel.
Fourth tower.
It sounds so.
Fourth tower.
The fourth tower floor.
Building four.
Building four over just a patch of grass at the Disneyland Hotel.
So that could be a home resort right like in the future when we got back from disney world i feel like you guys were trying to
sell me just out for no reason on why it might be a good idea for me and i don't know this i'm gonna
get the stat i know exactly what you're saying but this we were not selling you on doing it i've
tried to sell you on a number of different things over the years but i think we were just explaining to you and you were feeling like we
were trying to sell you because you were like i don't need that and i was like no i think i was
just explaining it i don't think i shouted mike well there was force is what i'm saying i don't
think you didn't shout but i remember you going like well i'm not going to use that i'm not going
to go every year i'm probably wrong but my my probably false memory of it is you guys came to a point that was like, well, I mean, it makes sense if you're going to go like
six times a year.
Well, that's exactly.
No, we were here.
I know exactly the memory.
I'm not going to go six times a year.
You were standing in the corner.
They backed you up into it.
I broke a lamp or two.
We had a contract.
I felt their sweat against my face.
Scott, it just seems like you're the type of person who'd like to secure your family's
vacation future.
I mean, you know.
God forbid something happens.
That's what we were trying to do.
Don't you want some leisure?
I mean.
All those hard times.
I guess love in my life is important.
Are you saying I won't have it if I don't do this?
That's what he's saying.
I'm not saying anything.
I'm just here to make you happy.
You're just being my buddy?
You're just seeing what you can do?
Absolutely. Absolutely. I am trying to steer you away from this aftermarket. be you're just you're just being my buddy you're just seeing what you can do absolutely absolutely
i am trying to steer you away from the reset this aftermarket like the shady aftermarket which is a
thing we will get into eventually can i have the polynesian is my home hotel well you can see what
you can do okay all right let's see what we can do zach did they offer you a ride like they offered me to where i've said this before
exactly i was offered at the end of my presentation do you need a ride anywhere now i stupidly said
no i'll just i'll walk out and i go where would you take me he goes well anywhere you want to go
the parks or i go how would you take me there and And he's like, well, like a golf cart?
And I was like, no, no, I'm good.
And then I left going, what the hell is wrong with me?
I remember taking a golf cart from the Disneyland Hotel into Disneyland.
That could have been really fun.
Yeah.
They did not offer us a ride.
And also, so deep down in me, I had to leave immediately.
As soon as we sat down, I was like, this feels wrong.
This feels bad. There's a couple other families that were like, I don't know. to leave immediately you know like i was as soon as we sat down i was like this feels wrong this
feels bad like there's a couple other families that were like i don't know i i don't know how
earnestly they were considering it but it made me feel so bad uh not that that's the worst like
obviously there are people who would love to do that and it would make sense for them but like
i just felt it in my bones that i had to like break through a wall to get out
of there so he may have shouted at you as you were running out the door we'll give you a ride somewhere
give me those fast passes i gotta go yeah uh so you're saying you wanted to go back to the theme
park that you'd paid to attend yeah yeah pretty much seemed appealing but we used the fast passes
and i think all things considered uh was a better deal uh you know like i think it was
better than waiting in a line just for the experience it alone it's kind of yeah it's
like akin to waiting in a line it's similarly tedious but a unique experience right it felt
bizarre enough to like i will still remember it for a long time did they make you look at the fake
hotel room no they did not wow interesting presentation
huh 2019 is different yeah um the uh are you aware that there's a previous uh correlation
between the disneyland resort and princess diana that there was this ride it was supposed to be a
very fast limo ride that they had to cancel because of a, it was supposed to be a ride where a
paparazzi were chasing you in a limo.
What?
It was going to be a madcap trip.
And then that incident occurred and they were like, we can't do that.
And it became a very slow moving ride that was very like tedious and bad and considered
one of the worst rides of all time.
Does that ride, that ride doesn't exist anymore?
It's what Monsters, Inc. is now, if you've been on that.
We did a whole episode about it. But the Monsters, Inc. is a redress of this ride where a slow limo took you to see Drew Carey and Cindy Crawford.
As played by Bizarre Mannequins.
Jackie Chan, Tim Allen, Whoopi Goldberg.
And they all look like bizarre, like bad drawings brought to life.
DC Follies type.
So there has been Princess Diana, Disneyland.
Crossover.
Wow, that is so weird.
I was not aware of that at all.
I don't know if that guy would be bothered by that fact as well.
Not only is it a conspiracy, but also it ruined what could have been a great fun ride.
I wonder if he maybe worked on the early iterations of that ride and that being ruined made him ride deep.
So then when the incident happened, then he is like, okay, new pitch.
It's a ride where we take you deep inside the conspiracy and we tell the truth of what happened to Dodie.
And then they're like, oh, maybe you could go work in timeshares instead he's been stewing about it for 15 20 or however long i want my transfer back
i don't mean to distract from everybody edwin is using a sandal as a pillow oh i got a good
pov for a picture if you can get a picture of edwin with i'll do that if we want to figure
out our next bit of business beautifully yeah for sure it's really dramatic in front of a fireplace yeah it is really so yeah he looks like
bane from yeah oh my god he does oh okay check the twitter we'll uh we'll be posting photos of this
bane dog i am so you know you get a darkness like a child like the dog is like i take photos of
them so i have to really assess like is this a new original photo it's just something i don't have in
my phone already and i do not have this in my phone it's pretty good yeah all legs deep down
wish to be humped brother
pretty good i was trying to think of like what it is uh i it's like
like it's that's what comes off the top of my head the first trailer was like
oh yeah unintelligent yeah you couldn't and it felt like they re-recorded the voice much like
they probably did with doolittle the first time he did it because all
if you watch do little a lot of the lines look adr'd oh so i assume whatever voice he was doing
for when they shot the movie uh you couldn't understand we've been doling out oh sorry
people of england i talked to animals robert downey jr's voice Yeah he was doing the Bane voice He made a choice
You know have you seen this movie called
Dark Knight Rises? Well I know I haven't
There's a voice that's a little
Similar I'm gonna tell you
Please don't yell at me Robert
It's so bizarre to me to be like
You know what I'm finally out of the Iron Man
World and then be like next up
A couple of D do little movies probably
a man without a
franchise is a man with no structure
he replaced
drinking and drugs with a franchise
and he needs his next one yeah
and look we're obviously gonna get 10
do little we'll get the avatar
like an avatar amount of do littles
does it and after the credits
is there a scene with like a hippo or something?
A hippo with an eyepatch?
We're putting together a team.
Jason and I stayed
until the end. There is not
an end-to-end credits, but there is a tag.
There's a mid-credit tag.
Where you find out a character dies
more gruesomely than you thought.
It's less of a tease and more of
like a snuff film yeah it's very weird can we say you're like all right skip one minute ahead if you
don't want spoilers what what is this what happened it's uh it's uh michael sheen's character who's
one of the only shins yeah he's like the bad guy and he's like at least you can understand what
he's saying at least that's nice that's the nice part about his moments in the movie.
Like, you understand what he's saying, and you know he's mad at Doolittle.
And he's playing the level of camp, like excitement, like Steve Martin in that live-action Looney Tunes.
Each animal.
Yeah, he's fun in that.
Yeah.
Yes.
Each animal in Doolittle is having their own movie separately
from the movie and then do little uh you can't understand half of what he says and then michael
sheen at least you can understand him and you know he's mad at do little and he hates do little
um so then there's like a tag where it just seems like he gets murdered by bats yeah
that's it yeah he just gets like we're like because bats. Yeah. Oh, no. That's it.
Yeah.
He just gets like, we're like, because I thought it pops back up during the credits and we're
like, oh, yeah, here we go.
This is Doolittle 2.
And then it's, no, no, it's Michael Sheen getting murdered by bats.
What's the Jared Leto movie called?
Morbius?
Yeah.
Michael Morbius?
Yeah.
Michael Morbius.
Yeah.
Oh, if Sheen was in Morbius, that's a good idea.
They cross over the Doolittle and Spider-Man universes. Oh, if Shane was in Morbius? That's a good idea.
They cross over the Doolittle and Spider-Man universes.
Just to clarify,
you know he was killed by bats,
but then you see him get more killed by bats?
Or the bats are new information? He just kind of got fucked up and disappeared.
Yeah, because they end the movie.
Have we spoiled the movie on the podcast yet?
A little bit.
We talked about the dragon's butt.
Yeah, we talked about that.
So yeah, if you didn't hear it, they a bagpipes out of a dragon's asshole uh that's the end of the movie and the dragon like farts and then do a little
and you don't understand what he's saying he's like a tuscan raider or something in star wars
you really can't understand what he's saying uh and then yeah michael sheen just like fucked up, like cartoonishly suggested that he gets like kind of fucked up by bats.
And then they just post credits to make you know.
No, no, no.
I want you to know he gets fucked up by bats.
Like that's how they want you to know that.
And then they cut to more of that Jurassic World lady dying at the hands of the...
Meanwhile...
The assistant getting dragged
by what did the the water dinosaur do it or did it it was a combination but yeah ultimately the
water dinosaur they teamed up uh but then but they do like micro close-ups of which bones
shattered and i just really want you to know this is a very tough death they do like the simpsons
season one gag where she's in the ambulance.
She gets loaded into it, goes up a hill, and then the ambulance gets attacked by a dinosaur.
And she spills over the cliff, crashing all the way down into the water again.
And with each land, a different dino chomps a piece of her off.
Yes.
Pterodactyl, raptor.
Don't text around children.
This happens to you right cosmically
she deserved that yeah
don't be doing your job or whatever
I forgot what I was gonna say
oh well I guess we could talk about turkey
legs yeah I think it's yeah well speaking
of yeah eating flesh
number one on my list
of two things
ding ding ding it's the sound of the dinner bell
and everyone comes a running just for that great uh prairie home this has become a killer
peg it's come from a maybe you've got a chance to you're on fire you're shooing just you're
gonna get a meeting for sure dinner yeah't call me late for dinner. Yeah.
That's good too.
Can we use that?
Yeah, absolutely.
So turkey legs. Turkey legs.
I want to start with, did everyone see the Snopes question?
If you Googled it?
Yeah.
And I just want to start with that.
Yeah.
There's a question that people have asked.
Are Disney's turkey legs really emu legs?
Oh, I've heard that post before.
I never heard the answer.
False.
False.
Okay.
So I just wanted to dispel that myth right off the bat.
This rumor was propagated, I believe, in maybe a Conan appearance by Zachary Levi, who said
that he had no employees who told him that.
So he's like, I think it was maybe a little dead,
and then he cracked it back open.
I see.
And then I have my own Snopes, tangentially but relatedly.
Are the rumors true that Zach Levi is the king of Comic-Con?
When will he answer this?
I have an answer.
Hell yeah.
Wow.
Convert.
True. True.
True.
No need to go to Snopes on that one.
I've snuck into Nerd HQ, the hottest Comic-Con party.
He's DJing.
The ZL is DJing.
He's holding court.
He's holding court.
Holding court because he's a nerd.
He's actually a nerd.
Yeah.
What's the show he was on?
He was on Chuck.
Chuck.
Chuck was the biggest nerd. He was on Chuck. He was on Telenovela. Yeah. But Chuck, he was a nerd. Yeah, he was. What's the show he was on? He was on Chuck. Chuck. Chuck was the biggest nerd. And he was on Chuck.
He was on Telenovela.
Yeah. But Chuck, he was a nerd.
Straight up nerd.
Dork. I believe that
the season Telenovela came out,
the Heroes reboot,
or like continuation.
I think he was on that
too. There was one NBC
season where he was on two shows like he was
the face of the network there's heroes content on another episode coming up do you guys know why
offhand teaser I can't remember anything we've recorded so no because we've sinned and God is
punishing us that's why uh stay tuned for heroes you'll i think you'll run into it too okay yeah um anyway
uh so did you see the there's a funny quote on that snopes uh from tim williams of gatorland
an emu leg is eight times larger than a turkey leg if you're going to walk around with an emu
leg in a theme park and shoe on it you'd have to get a cart with wheels
to push that thing around they're huge i'm picturing the flintstones here uh sort of a
dinosaur themed but you know 50s style theme park oh yeah i actually have uh something related to
the flintstones about turkey legs because so i. So I think as you look at articles or videos about it, what people seem to respond to about having a big turkey leg is the primal nature of it.
That it feels very caveman.
That you're just biting into a big dumb thing.
And I watched a clip from a show that I love and have watched many times, Unwrapped, hosted by Mark Summers.
Oh, sure.
Where he tells you how
Cracker Jacks or M&Ms are made
or whatever. And he did an all-Disney episode
and there's a turkey legs section
of it. And they talked to an employee
who's describing why people like turkey legs, and she's
like, I think it's just, you know, you like
biting into a big thing like a caveman, you know?
You take a big bite just like those little Flintstones.
Those little Flintstones those little famously little
flintstones i really like that
they're they're little i guess
right yeah i think so yes
if they're cartoons on tv
they are they are little
the flintstones are short
they're three apples tall
if the flintstones
walked in here right now they'd be edwin
sight we'd have to like keep
them away from edwin might jump their heads off wow i was trying to think of why i liked
uh turkey legs so much as well and like you know come back to the you know would get them as a kid
going to like theme to disney specifically all like whenever'd go, I'd get like a turkey leg and that was such a treat.
And like before that,
like,
I think I was like a pretty picky child.
Like,
you know,
like my parents had to like,
there's just like a family story is that they would have to tell me things
were chicken all the time in order for me to eat them or whatever.
And I'd only eat pizza or whatever.
And like,
and like thinking about it today,
I was like,
Oh,
I think I just like liked cartoons and wanted to eat what cartoons.
Yeah.
And that's like very much chicken, you know, like a little like drumstick or whatever.
And then a turkey leg is so that, especially considering the Flintstones, just like a little dumb kid who wanted to eat cartoon food.
Yeah.
You would request it.
A turkey leg?
Yeah.
Yeah. yeah you would request it a turkey leg yeah yeah i mean like uh i knew i forget exactly how it
started but i i like uh for sure thought that looked cool and one i wanted one it looks like
a prop you're right like it looks like a foam rubber right piece essentially um i do you still
if you go to the parks now are you grabbing grabbing one of those? Yeah. I mean, mostly out of nostalgia doing that and coming to terms with how gross it is now.
It is technically portable, but then you're just disgusting unless you have to go to the
bathroom and wash your hands and face afterwards and eat this thing with bony tendrils in it.
It's pretty gross.
A lot of tendrilsrils a lot of dripping like
every article about it in the new york times they say caveman so much in the new york times article
about it and then they say dripping so much it's always dripping and i'm like that's a negative
of it i mean yeah i like uh i i don't want it dry certainly i like that well for one i like that
it's dark meat we were a big dark meat it is a very good like bang for your buck in terms of
food there just because you can really go to town on one of those for a while until you feel really
bad about yourself yeah and like so you're like i don't know i feel like there are a lot of things
you can get at theme parks and Disney or whatever,
where it's like, I'm not really full.
And like, I spent way more money than I thought I'd prefer.
And so in that way, I like it, I guess.
But like, it is disgusting.
And it doesn't slow you down is a good thing about it.
You don't like have to, because sometimes you stop and have a too expensive Disney meal
and it takes an hour and a half, two hours out of your day.
You grab that and go and be in a line
but you're also dripping
juice all over the place. And you're just like
you have napkins stuck to your hands
and it's just horrible.
If you do think about it, like there must
how, they sell a lot of these
still. It's something like
This is where I'm wrapped to be helpful.
That's exactly what their bread and butter.
Among the six domestic parks, they sell 2 million of these a year.
Wow, 2 million a year.
2 million.
So imagine how much residue is all over the park.
If there's like a black light that could tell what turkey residue.
The greasy wax paper.
That's what kind of gives me.
Because, Zach, I was like you as a kid.
As a chubby middle schooler, every
trip, I was like, well, I gotta have my turkey leg.
I gotta have one turkey leg.
I especially
like that it... I mean,
this comes up in articles, too.
It tastes a little like ham.
Yeah. It's weird.
I like that it tasted... I like that it was
smoky. It tasted like ham. I like pastram i like that it tasted i like that it was smoky it tasted like ham i like
pastrami for that i like things that tasted like ham i really haven't thought about it till you
said that but that is so true it does taste like it tastes like ham because it's so it's cured in
a salt solution which which you more often associate it with ham than turkey what else tastes like ham though pastrami tastes
like ham because it uses a similar curing uh sort of thing but you're not holding out on any like
snacks or chips or crackers that are ham flavored uh well that depends i'm trying to think now i
mean there are like uh i feel like there was a lot of bacon flavored stuff. I think if it's not meat and tastes like ham,
it's just like, what am I?
I think I feel like it's so technically,
like it's so false feeling in my head
that I'm like, I can't eat that.
If it's at least meat in some way
that it tastes like ham,
maybe that tricks my brain a little more.
It's probably liquid smoke. At that point, it's just liquid smoke or powdered smoke flavoring or whatever
delicious would you say ham is your favorite flavor i'm not a bit not anymore i don't think
as a chubby middle school yeah my favorite flavor is ham is it uh why is it like a is ham kind of more for kids in a way
i've definitely lost my taste for it i'll have it sometimes i have no taste for ham i will be
more of a holiday food yeah i used to be like and this feels maybe not that i feel like more kids
like ate turkey sandwiches and like growing up yes that's what
i did yes i would my i don't know i think my dad liked ham and we would get ham sandwiches and
you know i liked ham sandwiches as a little kid and like would uh bring that up to people
who find that absolutely disgusting today oh we would switch it up and then a lot of it
like capicolo or salami and sounds great yeah uh scrambled eggs with
diced ham i still do that's a good diner option that's something diners can't really mess up in
my mind i prefer it if it seems like fresh or carved rather than just like deli meat like kind
of torn up and placed in the eggs that's what it usually is i feel like when i make it you're in
trouble yeah yeah yeah yeah You do that though?
Well if I have ham in the house
I'll switch it
How often do you have ham in the house?
I usually have
I usually have turkey
But once in a blue moon I'll switch it up and either get like
A third a pound of roast beef
Or a third a pound of ham
It doesn't make that many sandwiches
When you enter the house do you put it up in the air and you go, ham in the house, and
you raise the roof?
I guess now.
From now on.
From now on.
Zach, what meats do you have in your apartment?
I do a lot more turkey now.
Okay.
I think just vaguely for health reasons like it seems healthier and like i will you know occasionally have some ham in the
house though it's hard because my girlfriend won't eat it uh and so it makes me like feel
very aware that i'm the only one eating this ham sandwich stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is that a vegetarian or just distaste for ham?
I think it's more, she'll have like poultry and stuff, but like beyond that, tries not to eat pork or beef.
Have you guys ever shared a turkey leg?
A big turkey leg.
Disney is like, these are meant for sharing.
Please share these.
That's disgusting though, right? Like share a turkey leg because disney is like these are meant for sharing please share these that's disgusting though right like share a turkey leg i think like uh we she had like a couple of bites of it but was
not that interested in it like last time we went uh after our time shared prestigio uh but like
i'm not like if the four of us went to disney and and shared a turkey leg? No, we'd have to get two, so we'd
pair off. I don't know, that's still gross.
No, no, no. You would do it.
You've
saved money. You've eaten soup after me
before at Disney. Sure, yeah.
Mike doesn't like to share.
No, no, I don't.
It's certainly not turkey leg sharing.
Like a family
passing around a turkey leg?
Get me away from that.
Yeah, I could see, okay, I could see it if it was like my child or girlfriend or wife,
and she's like, I'm done with this.
Do you want the rest?
Okay.
Yeah.
That's fine.
But not to alternate, like it's ice cream.
I gave her like, I was eating it, and I was like, do you want a bite?
And she like had a couple bites and then gave it back.
And that was the end of the sharing.
And that felt fine.
Yeah.
That didn't.
Yeah.
I think there's a fine.
You do hit a tipping point where it's just, it's already so gross by yourself.
And you're getting drippy residue all over the place.
Yeah.
And then you're like out of kiss commission for a couple hours
I feel. Like you don't want to
share and then like have a romantic
moment. Right. Because it tastes like
ham.
For me.
That's a fast pass.
Jason likes ham
lip balm.
Ham flavored lip balm. There is bacon flavored lip balm. Ham flavored lip balm.
There is bacon flavored lip balm.
I've seen that.
I think, you know, there's been a big, like, bacon has been memefied a lot in the last few years.
It might be a little bit, you might argue it's too much.
People use it too much.
But maybe it's time for ham to become memefied a little more.
Maybe ham in the house is the it the meme it doesn't have
to be but these certainly got these have like one of the articles said like the massive increase in
these with the rise of social media something like a 25 percent like oh so people in sales
so people can post pictures of themselves pictures You can post pictures of the, it's like very photographable.
And it was already like organically popular.
Like there used to be one station that had these in Frontierland at Disney World.
Big Al's Coonskin Caps, the stand would sell these.
And that's gone.
And I believe so.
Yeah.
My mom, my sisters and my niece all went to Disney World like two weeks ago.
And my mom, when I talked to her right after, she was like, yeah, I didn't really see any turkey legs.
And I immediately Googled it.
And there were like two or three places that had them.
But I think they're scaled back in a way, I'm sure.
Yeah, I think so.
They were trying to get healthy for a few years there.
I think now that some of the crazy sweets they sell,
I feel like they're less concerned about being healthy.
And the Instagram angle is more crazy indulgent stuff.
So that makes sense.
It would kind of get a reprise.
I think it's a little funny that it feels so old timey of a food,
but I was surprised that you had that big owl
entry point
for it, that that was only in the mid-80s.
This has not been a Disney
phenomenon for that long. It was like
State Fair and Renaissance Fair.
It feels kind of borrowed from that.
For a long time. Yeah.
I don't think it was on the West Coast for a little
while, and then we demanded it.
I think I do have the list of where you can get them,
but people might know already.
Stands.
Usually stands.
The only restaurant I can think of that,
and I don't even know if they still have them,
but they did for a while,
was the Three Broomsticks and Harry Potter was selling them.
Oh, yeah.
They're at Universal too, right?
I mean, obviously with that, but are
they like, are there multiple
Universal spots? You get them at Universal Florida?
That's a good question. Well, they got rid of the
Flintstones barbecue at
Universal Hollywood, which would have been a perfect
place for them.
Which seemed gross as hell.
Gross as hell, they never ate there. If I remember correctly, at the
Disney World thing that I looked up, they had one
dedicated turkey leg stand and then two
restaurants that had it okay so it's like not as prevalent as i remember as a kid but you know
well and for a little while they were really sticking it on a lot of merch magnets and like
cookie shaped like it these weird shirts does any i don't even know what to call these shirts, but this certain kind of art.
That's like the old timey guy saying marijuana.
Here's what ails you.
Yeah, like beer.
It's not just for dinner.
Like a 50s advertisement kind of like.
Yeah.
I remember these posters would be at like Suncoast Video.
They were like one of the 20 choices of poster
for your stupid high school room or dorm yeah i had i truly it's so embarrassing to suddenly
remember this all right and like middle school zach had a uh beer helping white guys dance since
1985 or something that was a big one i remember like hitting a point where I was like, mom, I need some posters and like getting fat.
I think I had it.
Oh, God.
Oh, yeah.
List your posters.
List all your posters.
Oh, that's a good.
Yeah.
Oh, fuck.
This sucks.
Oh, I'm sorry.
No judgment.
I think I went to like a coconuts and bought a bunch of posters.
And like I had a Dukes of Hazzard poster.
The movie?
No.
Like I thought it was like, I don't don't know ironic i'd never even seen it and you know like thought it was cool in some way i think i had
oh god those are the two that stand out i think i had one or two simpsons posters
but they're like more vague in my brain god it's very cool stuff i think those were my posters
i had an austin powers poster yeah i had like the first austin powers i had i had the dr evil
monologue about uh like a zoroastrian named filma shaved my testicles. Of course.
But I was very, I mean, and certainly by college I was very like highfalutin and like
my college dorm posters punch drunk
love. Yeah, I definitely
had. People wanted to punch me.
I had
a freshman year, I
definitely had Fight Club and Donnie Darko.
Whoa, really?
Yeah, really on that.
Then I had Shattered Glass.
I didn't have Boondock Saints.
Shattered Glass. Shattered Glass had come out, and then the art theater, when it left, they would always
just sell the posters for like five bucks.
I somehow eventually ended up with a giant, not regular movie poster size but like really hard cardboard like like nine feet
tall poster of step up two that was like an ironic fun thing that i like went out of town to my mom
immediately threw away oh i had an ironic roll bounce similar area that's good. Or was it Drumline? Oof.
I can't recall, actually.
The Simpsons poster with everyone.
Sure.
The giant everyone poster.
I had an X-Men 3 poster that I bought like six months before the movie came out.
X-Men 3.
Because I knew it was going to be so good.
Because you fucking love Ratner.
I love Rat.
That's why I bought it.
Because I knew Rat. I did know Ratner.
So I was excited to see his take on the material.
I will say X-Men 3, not as bad as people remember it.
Brett Ratner looks like he always just ate a turkey leg.
I had...
Just greasy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember working post on a movie, and they were a they were doing tower heist on on the movie like a floor
above me and he like the times he was i don't think he was really ever there uh but like there
were times where the whole parking lot would be like blocked by like a nice mercedes and that's
like pulled in diagonally it's like it was brett ratner myself my god we gotta
get the movie ready eddie's hosting the oscars he told me he's in it sounded something like that
right yeah that's right it's a spirit of it at least eddie's got produced and he's gonna do it
more turkey please michael michael jackson and i threw water balloons at homeless people. Michael and Chris and I.
That's true.
That's a true story.
Good God.
Me and MJ and Chris Tucker at a dance party in our PJs.
Look up all those classic clips online.
We'll probably post them also.
Ratner rarities coming soon.
Oh, yeah.
Add that to that series.
Yes. Spacey, Travolta. We're trying to hit all the creeps
It's not theme park related but on the second
Gate anything goes
That might just be a second podcast
Oh sure
Paywall only
Your girlfriend already has a podcast with creeps in the title
So I don't want to infringe on her territory
We'll figure something out
Back to turkey legs
turkey legs i am i am creeped out by the color i recognize that yeah uh i recognize that when
when you put that ham thing together that makes sense but it's also kind of ham uh colored to me
and i think that's what i think i've always reacted adversely and i will admit never had
a turkey leg because i don't like the range.
I feel like at best it's pink, which is weird to me and seems raw or not correct or something.
Well, the meat is pink.
The meat becomes pink, but the skin gets very brown from the smoking.
Well, I feel like I also see some purple in there, which is not an appealing-
You're going to get some purple.
That's tough.
I mean, that's like kind of dark meat in a weird way has- Does it have purple? Maybe I'm wrong. get some purple. That's tough. I mean, that's like kind of dark meat in a weird way has,
does it have purple?
Maybe I'm wrong.
Sometimes, yeah.
Let's go around the room.
Dark meat, white meat, everyone?
What's everyone's feelings?
As a kid, I think I liked eating the drumstick because it was fun,
but white meat for sure, I think.
White meat now, but yeah, definitely dark as a kid.
And I ate like, yeah, I ate like drumsticks,
chicken legs.
I ate shake and bake chicken legs for lunch
for a lot of high school.
My mom prepared a batch.
Wow.
Nice.
Yeah.
How gross.
Wow.
And those don't hold?
No.
They get weird.
But I was so picky.
I guess like,
yeah,
I don't want to implicate you in that gross.
No,
I was pretty picky. Yeah. Chicken, again, I don't want to implicate you in that gross. No, I was pretty picky.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would have a chicken again, I guess.
I would eat it.
So she made it.
But disgusting.
Did you go?
Did you get to go off campus ever for lunch?
Not so much.
We never did.
Not allowed or just never did?
You would have very rare exceptions.
You got some kind of pass.
I'll let you go.
But like most, almost everyone was not allowed.
And I will say for the record i
am 100 dark meat amen brother i mean come on chicken thigh that's that's my adult version of
uh just like um i can't just make a batch of chicken legs now i can't justify that to myself
and it's also not i don don't want to. Yeah.
The dark meat seems just inconsistent and it feels like I'm going to get a
big hunk of fat and like,
that's disgusting.
Now I'm,
you're saying that's a good thing.
I mean,
it's part of the gamble,
you know,
I will say though,
my,
I do think my feeling on meat is changing slowly.
I'm eating less meat in general same i don't really
have meat in the apartment anymore i have like salmon and that's about it yeah and i'll have
a hamburger once in a while but when i go to taco bell i go all beans now i all go all black beans
uh it's basically the same it doesn't really. The only thing I think I've said before is hot chicken is my last indulgence.
Which is white meat more so.
Yes.
Yeah.
So we'll see if they can get an impossible chicken meat that fills the need.
That would be nice.
The chicken imitators out there are not so good.
Not so good.
I forget if Gardein is one of those.
There's something with an S. I don't
dig them. Yeah, no, I haven't had a good
one yet. I like the Impossible Burger
though. I'm fine
if they all across the board do that.
That's fine with me. I like, say, Tan.
That's what I'm after. Oh, yeah, I don't really like that.
Oh, okay. It's a
certain texture. It depends.
Yeah, so yeah, I don't really like that. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's a certain texture. It depends. Yeah. So, yeah. I think I feel like the idea of eating dark meat right now is gross. I wouldn't do it.
What would you say to just a big seitan turkey leg?
Just a big, yeah.
Imitation bone. It's like recycled have the did they uh manufacture it so that
it has the purple in it it's got the purple it's dripping it's disgusting okay because the
impossible burger simulates blood in a burger by dripping with red so as long as it drips with
purple and you share it with your whole family share with your whole family and any friend a friend
of yours too that might be next to you i don't like this scenario where we all go to disneyland
together i like that part but we're all at disneyland together and then like jason says
pair off who's my turkey buddy turkey tom who's a little turkey tom. I want the purple bite. I want a purple bite. Save me a purple bite.
Save me a purple bite.
Really clinging to a lot of phrases on this.
The toms are the key.
The reason these are so big are they're from male turkeys, which are called toms.
Your Thanksgiving turkey is a female turkey.
It's a hen.
You're doing this in a real strange way with your hands clasped together.
It is strange.
I never knew that.
That's the solution.
It's illegal to, they're not steroided.
Apparently there's regulations about steroiding these things up, but they exercise them a
lot, so the legs get real big.
Oh my God.
Around the track.
Around the track.
That's so sad.
Yeah, it's sad.
Jeez, these jack turkeys.
They're jack turkeys.
And I'm starting, I have been in grocery stores where they have like two wrapped turkey legs,
like big turkey.
Like you can make this at home.
I watched a video.
It's not that hard to make at home.
I know someone who will do turkey legs for Thanksgiving.
Okay.
Because like, I don't know, that makes sense to me because I don't, I'm not dying to have
the other parts of a turkey. Yeah. I don't know, that makes sense to me because I'm not dying to have the other parts of a turkey.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe that's better.
I don't super look for it.
I guess I appreciate it when I go home and there's turkey, but I don't think I would
like it.
I don't think I would choose.
I'm going to make the turkey this year.
Yeah.
Not interested.
It's so hard to keep, you just have to keep basting it if you want it to be moist, if
you want it to be.
I like dark meat because it's less dry part of it.
Yeah, sure.
Well, any meat we had growing up, my mom would cook it to the point of no moisture so there was no disease.
Oh, my God.
So we had, yeah.
That's miserable.
We would have, yeah, if we had chicken or something, it was like as dry as you can imagine. Oh, my God. So we had, yeah. It's miserable. We would have, yeah, if we had chicken or something,
it was like as dry as you can imagine.
Oh, God.
But as we've learned, she's going to dispute this.
She will argue about this, though.
I've made this comment for years now,
and she doesn't have too much of a defense against it.
There was a lot of salmonella scares in the 90s,
so everyone just cooked the hell out of everything.
And mad cow.
Mad cow, yeah. Oh, I remember how out of everything and mad cow mad cow yeah oh I remember
how stressed we were about mad cow
as a family
but people yelled at us because we were wrong
about how Y2K was a real thing
yeah and we were
brazen and dumb about that are we gonna like
make fun of mad cow and then
well mad cow was a problem I guess right I think it
was a problem it felt like a
problem at the time no I don't think so it was fake mad cow was fake is what I'm saying Right, I think it was a problem. It felt like a problem at the time. No, I don't think so.
It was fake.
Mad Cow was fake is what I'm saying.
It was like Dirty Fiat's death.
He's out there.
He's out there.
It's a conspiracy.
I had a friend who had roommates in college
or people in his fraternity or something
that got swine flu and like had a
really fun time while they had swine flu like they were quarantined and just chilled and and like
i think ended up just smoking a lot of weed and were fine eventually this was their whatever they
had like obviously it's possibly a very serious disease that has killed people but like these weird bros he got it and
we're fine is that a chill time yeah it was like a movie yeah swine flu swine flu in the house
that's very strange yeah i my yeah it's interesting to think about i mean swine flu was how many years
ago i mean it still exists like 2007 or 8 or something like that yeah so like all i would be very interested to see the statistics
of what how many bros got it is what i'm saying did the population dwindles bros more than bros
it latches onto their uh hats It latches onto their sports hats.
When a cap is turned backwards.
Yes.
The virus because they're not looking.
It's like behind them.
Sales of beer making white people dance and stage 85 posters plummeted.
This is only tangentially related.
My roommate in college used to play me uh the
budweiser real men of genius oh my god campaigns that he had on mp3 you'd be like have you heard
these what was real men of genius real men of genius like sing mr zamboni driver yeah it was
like specific jobs the eyes so we can play hockey and like that yeah yeah and
then they would do the jingle again and he had them all on mp3 i remember that's such a phase
that i remember too like when i had like kazaa and like would try to be like the person who had
like funny shit on his computer sure oh yeah were you did you have uh the uh the only gay eskimo
yes yeah whatever that was a live performance on mad tv that was a weirdly omnipresent mp3 yeah
wow there's like if you like searched funny song or something maybe that's like somehow like
it just called that or even you know like um like. Dynamite Hack, Boys in the Hood cover.
God.
Yeah.
Yeah, that for sure.
I don't think what else was in this category.
Like a squirrel with like big nuts.
That's still pretty good though.
All the Me First and the Gimme Gimme's albums, right?
The Elmo like shooting someone or something.
Did anyone?
Elmo like cussing like someone doing an elmo impression where he like like had like a glock it's been a thoroughly embarrassing podcast
this was the last gasp of like uh not the last because they're still on and
and making tons of money it's not the last gasp at all.
Morning radio DJs, I feel like
now they're this weird little corner,
but that was their last gasp at relevancy
maybe was their weird songs.
They're like Monica No. 5,
Bill Clinton,
Mamba No. 5 parody. Those kinds of things
really spiked on Kazaa and
Audio Galaxy.
What a time. I have a lot of my music that was on my
itunes still oh really it's been floating around wiped out like it's all been reset
huh i'm trying to see if i can find something really great i probably won't this probably
shouldn't even mention it but yeah i have a lot of i did that thing where you can upload your music
i have apple music and then you can like pay 20 a month and it
just uploads all of the things you had on your itunes into your cloud oh wow so i have like
really messed some people up right because if people have like bootlegs or live record like
and it couldn't match it like no well thematic emission uh i think it might have done that but
but it should just upload it shouldn't like destroy it, but it should just upload. It shouldn't destroy it. Oh, okay. It should just upload it as a separate thing.
Because I have stuff I did that's uploaded.
Oh, that went through.
Okay.
Yeah.
Your music?
Well, you're a touring musician, though.
Well, sure.
Comedy bits, bad comedy bits.
Oh, man.
Is this all around?
Is it in the cloud?
A lot of it's in the cloud, yeah.
Wow. we're not
gonna do it here though i have to go through it first i i understand at least a pass of uh
which we didn't allow you zach you've just been uh freewheeling with embarrassing shit that's okay
no filter i feel like i deserve it yeah A few years of taste sin
What else on turkey legs?
Nutritional value
720 calories a leg
720
36 grams of fat
That's a lot right?
That's a lot
What's the salt content?
Does it say it on there?
Let me check the notes When was the last time you had one a turkey leg was it in that i think it was this like last trip
so maybe like two years ago i i mean like i think i haven't fully examined my desire to get them but
i think i try to get end up getting one every time i go sure uh i don't
know i definitely i'm wondering if i'll get one next time it has been such a fixture of every
theme park experience for me like i have a very uh like my mom sent me this very cute picture of
me when i'm like four holding a coke and a turkey leg and it's it's uh it's very sweet
but it's also very disgusting sure well you were a kid yeah sure sure jason was last time you had
one hi not in a long time okay i don't think maybe high school but even then i feel like we
were gravitating more towards like sit down meals or run and gun because i feel like the rest of the family
would be like uh we want to eat a meal like we don't want to just walk and only eat meat there's
a problem with it i mean you can't eat bread or a side dish or salt like i don't really dip a turkey
leg in anything i think one time no you don't really dip it and it and it's like
very unwieldy but like one time i went and i got a uh corn on the cob and a turkey leg i think you
maybe it were there i think it was like our like people from our mod team went on it oh i remember
that happening i don't think i ended up going on that trip but i know but that okay that's a good
you can two-hand that yeah it's still i mean when you need a napkin though, you're done.
Like you need help from someone for sure.
You do need some help.
It's like ice cream when it melts.
Like Edward Scissorhands.
All of those foods, like the stands at Disneyland, you usually sell a turkey leg, corn on the cob, chimichanga.
Yes.
And all of those are meant to be portable and run and gun.
And I think I've ordered all of them.
I think in the last few years, I gravitate more towards the like, I don't know.
I've had the chimichanga more recently.
The corn's all right if you just need, you know, a snack.
I've never actually never done that at Disney, actually.
The corn is good.
How do you screw up corn, though?
I'm sure there are theme parks that do.
It's just tough because you have to floss
and then you're just like...
Oh, that could screw you up for the rest of the day.
I should...
I realized when we went recently for Rise of the Resistance
I should have done a turkey leg
as research, but we were...
At this point, I just forgot we were going to do this.
And I I'm now so I really have my Disneyland food down pat, which is like not really a full sitting lunch.
But you do at some point you spread out a Ronto wrap and a bow from Tropical Hideaway.
And I so like I don't I think i used to like worry about eating at
disneyland or like i gotta go outside the park and now i can i know i can stay in the park and
have those things and be upset i'd probably put corn dog in that rotation too now that i'm having
those i still don't do corn dog i'm sure i've said it on the podcast before because i threw up
after eating one when i was little and it's stuck in my head that they're bad. It's crazy how long that can stay with you.
Yeah.
But I will declare,
I mean,
I will declare,
I will,
I will do it at Disneyland at a certain point.
Yeah.
We'll build a whole month long event out of it.
And I will rise,
I will civico,
I will rise to the challenge.
The corn dog?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love the corn.
That's probably the run and gun thing i've gravitated towards the
most in recent years if you could invent a uh portable food for disney to sell what would it
be oh that's a great question yeah yeah that's i was gonna say um that i thought like that you
know there's the bengal barbecue over in adventureland which i feel open i looked it up open in 1990 that is a
much more portable version of this it's like skewers with different meats on it that's pretty
good and it's like this is that that's the portable version of the turkey like because you also can
vegetables you can get a bunch of roasted vegetables that's a very good option much
much leaner meat yeah uh and And it's a nice little snack.
So that already exists, at least the meat version of what you're asking. I always think Disneyland does fish well.
I like a fancy fish at the fancier Disney restaurants.
So if they could bring that to a portable experience.
And maybe, is there some...
Imagine a snack that is a longer piece of fish like on a on a cone or on a stick
and then surrounded by a little like row of french fries uh like like as if it's like a fish flower
blossoming like something where it could all be held on the same fish and chips on a cone yeah
wow yes oh that's a good idea and the food's just regular it's not some weird then it's Like something where it could all be held on the same cone. Fish and chips on a cone. Yeah. Wow.
Yes.
Oh, that's a good idea.
And the food's just regular.
It's not some weird, then it's desertified.
It's just fish, but can we arrange it portably?
I'm picturing a teenager just eating shit, falling over with that.
Stick pokes him in the eye.
Oh, fuck.
Dude, I'm weird.
I know for a few years now, they've been selling a whole fried fish for Lunar New Year.
Whoa.
Or like the line of food for that.
But I think you have to pick it apart, you know.
I was going to say you could go the other way and they should do a full fish version of like a turkey leg.
That's just a full fish with the eyes and then you eat it like Heathcliff.
Oh, yeah.
Where you suck off the fish with the bones.
The whole intact skeleton comes out of your mouth.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's very Instagrammable.
I would want them to really innovate
and have something run and gone,
like soup or cereal,
something you cannot eat when walking easily.
Soup or cereal, did you say?
Soup or cereal.
I'm trying to think of something in a bowl
that you eat with a spoon
that's difficult to eat walking.
I mean, you hear the walking talk,
like that's a thing.
What about cereal?
That's like a Frito pie.
What about cereal with a sippy cup lid?
But then how do you get the...
It's a bigger opening.
It's a bigger,
but then you're tilting your head back.
I feel like the liability of choking on cereal pieces.
Maybe it's sort of just like connected to your face
and sealed around your nose and mouth.
It's like a Bane mask.
It's like Bane.
Bane mask mixed with like a horse feeding bag.
And that's very Instagrammable.
It's very Instagrammable.
Hashtag foodie brother.
If I had to pick one,
I just got back from Hawaii over the
holidays, and I think they could do like a
cool like Moana ride tie-in
that's like spam musubi or something.
I think that would be good.
It's still kind of gross
to have like a little greasy cellophane wrapped thing.
I've gotten it at Disneyland before.
Oh, really?
Every now and then one of the stands will have
like a tropical hideaway switches up.
Like they have like a secret menu item.
Sometimes it's a pork sandwich.
Once it was spam, misubi.
Wow.
I don't know this.
Wow.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Do you just go ask what's the secret thing?
Sometimes it's displayed, and then sometimes it's secret, secret.
But they usually have some sort of rotating option there.
Do they have sushi anywhere in the parks?
I don't think so.
I feel like at Disney World, i had well i had sushi in
epcot yeah it was not great california grill has a giant sushi menu okay and i'm sure the better
restaurants yeah and we'll have appetizers but i don't think there's just in park sushi there but
that would be not a bad idea.
A little in-park, because you can eat that
relatively easy on the go.
As long as it's not baking in the sun.
Oh yeah, with mayo.
Spicy mayo.
In little Mickey ear shapes
would be nice.
Stamp out, have a big piece of fish
and stamp Mickey's head into it.
Forgive me if you have, but have you been to DisneySea?
Yes.
Did they have
a fish thing there?
I'm sure they did.
We had a couple.
The thing we kept eating was curry.
They had a good curry
in Frontierland
there and in the Aladdin
area in Agrabah.
They had curry we ate.
And I had like a sit-down fish meal that was like a full-on Japanese
where there's 15 components to it and a great soup and a little salad
and lots of little dippings and toppings.
So there's like great Japanese food around there.
I don't know if there's a walk-around fish component, though.
Gotcha.
Yeah, that's a good question.
Somebody else knows.
Someone who's been there 25 times.
Tell us.
Good place.
It's a very good place.
Highly recommended if you ever get out there.
Well, there's...
Yeah, I was just trying to think of...
There's that tiger tail they have. Shandoo's tiger tail, but that's not.
It's kind of like a bow.
It's a bow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh.
It's like an orange.
You eat little, Shondoo is a, where is he there?
He's a tiger from the Sinbad ride.
A tiger and a little turban.
Whoa, okay.
It's an original, it's basically like an original Disney movie ride that doesn't, the movie
doesn't exist, but there's an original Al Mankin song.
And anyway, Shondoo, you can eat his tail.
He's the most adorable character you've ever seen and you can eat.
Gotta eat that guy's tail.
Yeah, yeah.
So there's interesting stuff there as well.
The turkey, so Thanksgiving from the website Delish, they state Thanksgiving, you average,
when you're making a Thanksgiving turkey,
you average 1.25 pounds per person.
These weigh 1.5 pounds, the turkey leg.
But I don't think I eat that much turkey at Thanksgiving.
I think I get a lot of sides and a couple slices of turkey.
Sure.
I would say this feels like, a turkey leg is the most dense part of a turkey.
There's just like the huge cavern in the middle.
So like it is too much turkey for sure.
Yeah, it's definitely a lot.
Yeah.
You'll probably walk it off.
Walking a lot of Disney.
You walk a lot of miles a day.
Yeah, I mean, for sure sure as long as you're doing
a whole day and you aren't eating multiple legs the most unnerving thing i encountered when reading
about this was the the times talk to someone from schlitterbahn the water park chain uh they sell
turkey legs and they said that just cooking these causes more people. It's like the fajita effect to Chili's.
The smell causes people to go,
like not even I want a turkey leg,
just, oh, I'm hungry.
So the snack stands do see an increase
if they're cooking these.
But I have to say,
dragging one of these around a water park
seems like a recipe for disaster, doesn't it?
That's the most disgusting thing i can imagine
i think that even i have my limits you can't bring it on the water slide can you well obviously i
would think not but just if it's dripping and you're like half dressed you're gonna burn yourself
and then just like some dumb ass is dropping their turkey leg in the water and then that water has
had a turkey like you know like all of it's so gross it becomes soup yeah what percentage of the wave pool is turkey drippings oh god jason's thinking of this
fantasy now is a wave pool of turkey drippings two percent dripping seven percent urine my
mirepoix i dropped my carrots celery and onions in onions in. Oh, what clumsy me.
Wait, are you cooking yourself in this scenario?
Oh, what?
You are?
Who's cooking?
Something smells good.
You're cooking everyone and yourself in the wave pool.
Yeah.
Okay.
You just want to eat like in a cartoon, like Zach said.
That's different, though.
This is cannibalism. Yeah. Even if you're not's different though this is cannibalism yeah even if you're
not straight up eating the brain but you don't know it the cartoon the looney tunes didn't know
it like they'd be be in the pot cooking stuff and they'd be like what smells good and then
they realize oh no it's me it's me yeah but you just took out the part where it's a problem
yeah this is what i'm saying i don't know it until the end but you do know
we're telling you what's going on you're in a stew being but you're baking in the hot texas sun
someone accidentally spilled potatoes
uh it's a lazy river uh my thought about turkey leg also is that it is grandfathered in now to
being acceptable because like if they all of a sudden if it all of a sudden was like cow leg
and i know you can eat legs of other animals if they were to introduce another type of leg right
now people go what the hell yeah this is crazy turkey leg is definitely too crazy to be a new thing yeah
so it's gonna survive as long as it's cultured like acceptable to eat meat i was i was eating
a field a couple years ago with a friend of the podcast andrew grissom and he ordered frog legs
we were downtown and and hypothetically i was yeah, maybe I'd try it.
And they put it in its fried and I picked it up and I was like, oh, my God, never.
No, no, no.
Whoa.
What about Escargot?
Would I eat it?
Have you had it?
No, I have not had it.
I'm not saying I wouldn't have.
I'm just saying I touched it and it felt it just felt like in a leg.
It felt too.
It's too real.
But then I was also like i just haven't
grown up with this yeah yeah and i would as much as it's gross i would still feel comfortable
holding a turkey's leg which of course what's the difference but i really had a visceral reaction to
even picking it up and i was like i cannot yeah i like huge basket luckily or i don't know luckily
in quotes have the the disconnect with turkey legs or chicken legs or something where
eating an amphibian just
is an insane barrier in my mind
that I just haven't crossed.
It felt like its whole hips and
leg, I could feel its
body. It pretty easily snaps.
Yeah, and I just
almost threw up a little bit.
I threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Was that even a thing?
The old man of genius.
The guy who throws up in his mouth a little bit.
Hey, buddy, that's not even a thing.
Now college kids just trade office waves.
Right.
I think I have it right.
Yeah, that's right.
Dwight 2.Wave.
What do you got?
I was going to ask everyone's opinion.
So turkey legs, again, have been merchandised to death at this point.
What does everyone think of these food magnets?
Anyone into these?
Okay, tell us what you're, yeah, go clockwise here.
You got Mickey waffles.
I think I always like to see a Mickey
waffle. Mickey pretzel, that's
fine. Donut with Mickey sprinkles,
you're starting to lose the thread
a little. Then Mickey ice cream bars
I think are very iconic.
Then the turkey legs, and they've included
in the magnet the greasy wax
paper with Mickey ears on it.
Is that what?
The greasy wax paper is pulled way too high for
my liking uh show me a little turkey leg guys yeah don't be such a prude
look at the checkout that was gams
zach would you put a turkey leg facsimile magnet on your refrigerator. Why not? Hold on. It's not like, I think a magnet's fine because it's not actually gross and dripping.
I think that's, I would do that for sure.
Would you go with the air freshener they briefly sold?
No.
They did?
Not at all.
Jesus.
Do they smell like turkey?
I believe it smelled like a turkey leg.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, can we find that on eBay? Let's's look yeah yeah give me a second but they had the uh we had did you have fisher price uh like i might
because i guess my sister had it the fisher price fake food and like a fake fridge and we had all
this like fake plastic meat okay from the fridge no oh yeah you've seen you know i think i never
really had that or don't really remember having that but my niece and nephew have like have had
that stuff recently or when they were like five you know eight years ago or whatever and like i
can still and like see like a little chicken leg from a set like that and be like oh that looks
pretty good because it's a cartoon is he's like
yeah yeah there's an appeal to that the uh and then the i always i i liked them but i always
found the fake chicken mcnugget toy that they were toys fake you know i remember i'm talking
about that transformed no well they had like a fireman's hat they were like people i guess yeah
yeah all the professions the mcnuggets dressed as the village people they're cute but they still
they had gotten the texture so close i I feel like, as a kid.
I even kind of felt weird about it.
I felt like the food is alive.
New in bag.
Whoa.
It looks like a photograph.
It's shaped like a turkey leg.
$10 on eBay.
But then it's got a little cartoon turkey leg. Oh, the leg for you. Cartoon turkey leg.
Oh, the leg's cute.
Guy saying turkey leg scent.
He's cute.
I like him.
How can that fake turkey leg smell be good?
It must be the grossest smell.
Again, we were saying ham facsimiles are bizarre.
Right, but Jason said that's his favorite smell on earth,
is ham.
It used to be.
Ham air fresheners anywhere?
Oh, here's a waffle air freshener.
That's probably more pleasant.
That makes more sense.
Yes, that's much better.
But were there only a ham air freshener, so Jason could always say ham in the house.
Ham in the house.
Ham in the house.
Turkey leg on a sweatshirt.
I mean, they put it on everything now.
But as people like i mean people
are trying to eat less meat i wonder if i wonder if the instagram ability uh kind of balances out
like disney because disney's offering a lot more vegetarian stuff or imitation meat stuff
i wonder like what that does to the turkey leg i'm sure there's scientists working on some sort of a fake meat turkey leg yeah there has to be the air freshener may have what do
you think that person thinks of their job uh i think they have some sort of god complex yeah
the power of god i would think yeah so they are wheeled they're like you were close i wonder if like i became that involved and
invested in science uh what i would assume i would be doing with my career and then what if
if i would be satisfied i think like yeah maybe the the that is satisfying i don't know i in my
head for a second i was like i don't know if they would enjoy being in that lane
you mean like there's a i assume all scientists are in like one lab together there's one room
where they're doing cancer research and then the next lab over this guy is trying to crack
fake turkey leg exactly that can simulate the purple and the dripping and they like go they
go to lunch together and they're like what are you working on he's like oh yeah well i'm working
on the thing to make the white blood cells
kind of really react and kill the cancer cells.
And he's like, oh, yeah, well, we perfected the purple today.
The purple is now the exact same color as in real meat.
You got the purple?
Holy shit.
Yeah, it's actually the cancer researchers who are like,
God damn it, I want to be in the turkey leg room.
That's so fun.
The carefree playboy lifestyle of big turkey men.
Someday.
Someday.
You'll get the good assignment.
Closing thoughts.
Anything else you want to share about your fondness
or at least putting up with turkey legs?
You know, I think it'll be a sad day in some way
when the turkey leg is maybe not there anymore.
It feels, you know, like very nostalgic to me.
And as gross as it is,
I think I'll keep getting it as long as I can.
Sure.
Just don't drip on those fast passes
if you do another timeshare presentation.
I'll have to go to another hour of a man flailing.
Well, I hope you can avoid this.
And Zachary, you survived Podcast The Ride.
Thanks for being here.
That was a blast.
Thanks for having me.
This was so fun.
Let's exit through the gift shop.
Is there anything you'd like to plug?
Oh, gosh.
You know, these days I'm doing some stuff on twitch at at zakoyama uh i'm all across all platforms at zakoyama and uh over on twitch i'm just playing
some what am i playing sekiro right now i'm just you know playing games over there if that's your
thing yeah sure neat um well you related video game would
be nice in some regard yeah uh can you on twitch i've only a little bit familiar with it can you
like play but also eat and then can they see you eating yeah you can have a like a lot of people
do like a picture and picture thing so you can eat whatever you want yeah so maybe when this
comes out you could be eating a giant turkey leg while you're playing.
Pick up a turkey leg.
Go home.
That's a subscriber goal.
Yes.
And then when you eat it,
people will send you bits.
Let's say if I had
50,000 subscribers,
I'll do that.
Yeah.
Thanks for the bits.
Thanks for the bits, everyone.
We're chomping down.
Yeah.
You dripped a drive home
in a hickory-scented car
an hour back.
Just holding it one-handed.
That's your new gaming like persona to
the turkey lips
at dripping
50,000 subscribers
I will change my handle to at
dripping Zach
and I'll eat a turkey like with
every stream
and the people who subscribe thinking something else is going on yeah hey um what's going on
whatever it is i'm in uh here's some bits uh wow okay and as as for us as always for more
podcast the ride follow us on twitter instagram and facebook and for three bonus episodes every
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slash podcast the ride.
There's a more even...
This is a tried and true snack,
but I wonder, is there for the second
gate a deeper cut snack
to do a whole ep about?
Corn?
Do you want all corn?
Corn on the cob.
There's obviously ice cream and Mickey Bar,
but that's not obscure.
You're looking for something that's less...
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
It seems like there's only four minutes.
Have you done a bread bowls kind of thing?
Ooh, we have not.
Bread bowls are pretty good.
Yeah, that's a good call.
Vegetable skewer from Bengal Barbecue.
Each type of skewer gets its own episode you know what
should actually get its own episode and it's not that obscure is the now defunct fried green tomato
sandwich from the hungry bear restaurant that was good which was we would go and get it all the time
lindsey loved it it was like we would do it and then they got rid of it and people were furious
so it's still not that obscure but maybe there's a whole 90 minutes on that.
You might have gotten it.
Yeah, that seems like the kind of thing we would do.
Yeah.
So maybe we should do it.
Okay.
So subscribe if you want to hear that,
unless we bump that up to main feed
because there is like...
The demand.
...Fried Green Tomato mega demand.
Yeah.
Until then, thanks for listening
and hey, ham in the house.
Ham in the house.
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