Podcast: The Ride - Twister...Ride it Out with Matt Rogers

Episode Date: August 10, 2018

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Warning, the following podcast may contain generic blasphemy, Southern hospitality from Aunt Meg, Scott's new roller coaster based nickname, and a sidewinding talk about Twister. Ride it out with guest Matt Rogers. Quick, get in the cellar. It's Podcast The Ride, the theme park podcast my mom says is good, but would be better if we didn't use the Lord's name in vain so much. That's true. She was like, the podcast is great.

I'm very much enjoying it, but please do not say, and I won't say it because it will make her mad, J.C., which I don't say a lot, but apparently that stuck. That's, well, it's how. My name is Mike Carlson. Also, this is Scott Gerner and Jason Sheridan joining me. I say it a lot. Maybe we so don't realize

that we're saying it and that's what then it doesn't occur to us as an offensive thing and that's what she's offended by is our lack of care we're just casually slinging it do your parents listen by the way we actually don't know I don't know this my dad listens

my mom at some point I will go Through them again And find an appropriate Episode for her To listen to So you're like

Curating Or you're picking out Maybe Specific episodes Yeah Maybe the live show one Maybe that'll be A good one

Sure Maybe Scott Parents Your parents No They don't have smartphones at all uh i've told them it exists my dad said like like well play it for me sometime and i'm

like it's not really how it works it's kind of a passive experience you don't really like if i sat and listened to it with you that would be very awkward and he's tuned out by the time i've said that uh so no neither of them listen i'm hoping they will at some point in time, but I can relate to your mom's thing because the first, when I, in high school, when I finished the first video I'd ever made when I was 15, this thing that's too long and 25 minutes long,

it's called Ninja Battle Bots on the Island of Darkness. It's a, it's a really awful thing that's mostly like an austin powers uh ripoff but with like a kung fu movie uh undertones and i've i'd never seen a kung fu movie so i was a bad person to be doing it anyway uh when i finished that and showed it to my mom she was just dead silent and then she and then she said if, if we showed that to Monsignor Loftus, what do you think he would say? It's not really for Monsignor Loftus, mom. She's cooled it a lot since, but she's not excited about the language or the, you know, penis displays or anything and anything i've done so i'll say this i feel like when you

would have been in high school the um papists would have had uh bigger things on their minds around 99 around 99 2000 i feel like they were dealing with some other stuff they weren't dealing with it well yeah well let's try not to say jc this episode so we can like play it for my mom and your mom and monsignor loftus uh just so take it to loftus take it to loftus play it for him and and uh i'll sit with him while he listens while he hears the entire two hour thing yeah yeah but let's bring our guest in to talk about uh cursing and using the lord's name in vain folks uh you know him from his hit podcast, Las Culturistas. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Matt Rogers.

Hey there. Hi. See, I don't know if I'm the right guest for the podcast. I frequently use the Lord's name in vain. I would just like to say publicly to anyone's mother who would be offended by that, it is only because I don't believe in God. You know what I mean? It's not because I'm like,

it's not like, I'm not trying what I mean? It's not because I'm like, it's not like a, I'm not trying to be insulting. It's just because religion is deeply not a part of my life. And so when I say something like JC, it's just because it's an exclamation for me and truly not because I'm trying to be disrespectful. I'm just not a believer and that's okay.

Sure, it's fine. It doesn't register as an offensive thing to say. No, no, no, no. It's just an exclamation. Yeah, but I will give my best effort to not do it out of respect that's fine don't worry i have editing power too over the podcast so i can you certainly do right out it doesn't matter you are god here in a way yeah mike has final cut and he reminds us of that a lot that's beautiful i yeah beautiful i can i'll just take jason's during the podcast I worked relatively hard on those

so Matt you are a big theme huge gotta be one of our most insane theme park nerds of all of our guests so far I would argue that I am and also what the listeners don't know is that we actually have been talking for about 15-20 minutes already prior to pressing play about these kinds of things i've spilled lots of secrets

everyone listening should be jealous it's true we do know stuff and i thank you for it and this is the thing is like you know if you give me the permission i will talk about it but this is another reason to listen to my podcast last culture reasons because I spill all the tea on what I know. All right. I do not hold back. And also, I was the one who knew there was going to be a Harry Potter roller coaster before there was even the announcement of Dueling Dragons being disassembled. Wow.

I knew that that was coming down, and I did say it on my podcast, and I will reveal what's going to replace Terminator. Really? You will give the audience a scoop? Would you like to know? Of course. You're willing to say it? Honey, let me tell you something.

I'm willing to tell you this right now, and I have great sources, that you will see it announced very soon that the franchise that is taking over the Terminator space is the Bourne Identity. Well, how about that? Jesus Christ. Yeah, Jesus Christ. is the born identity well all right jesus christ yeah jesus christ and you know i do not know

exactly when that's going to be announced i don't know what form the attraction will take but that is the tea and i do know for a fact that the script of the attraction is finished which makes me feel like we're obviously getting a sort of stunt show moment yeah this is crazy i'm excited for that i'm a big fan of that franchise sure are you yeah i like spy movies you know what yeah okay i just you know why i was surprised when i heard that's what it was because the other big rumor was that it was going to be a pitch perfect thing and i really didn't like that because i need to be i want to be thrilled i don't want to be like softly impressed like by people singing in harmony. Like I live in New York.

I know a lot of musical theater majors. Like I don't need like to hear a third. Like I understand like what's going on. Like, but the Bourne thing, it just felt like an old franchise. And my problem or like not old, but like, you know, not like classic and also not new enough to fit into the new identity of the

park because my thing with universal studios is i do miss the days where it was like you had your classics you know what i mean when jaws went down i have extremely mixed feelings about that because i do think that diagonale is fantastic and a huge achievement like internationally in terms of theme parks like i think it's amazing but you give up jaws you give up amity you know what i mean that is so classic and so identifiable universal and with the death of jaws and the death of back to the future the ride and the death of um to be totally honest with you you know king kong earthquake and the ride we're going to be the attraction we're going to be speaking about today in a way, I think that we kind of move on into this world where we have fast and the

furious in the park, which is not a prestige franchise. You know, we have, um, even men in black in a way is it's like very of a time. It didn't stand the test of time in the way that I think a lot of these other attractions are and that they're classic films.

ET is still there, but how much longer will it be? You know, so I have this question in my mind about the Bourne identity being important enough or big enough to sustain an attraction. But with Jimmy Fallon, the ride, who knows? Like, well, how much do we really care? Jason, you should say our policy about Jimmy Fallon when it comes up. Oh, I think we joked about this before. Like, we don't talk about it too much for the sake of the well-being of our careers you know i feel like here's the thing though it's like if you're not able to like poke fun at the fact

that jimmy fallon has a theme park attraction we're not really doing comedy because that's funny it's funny it's funny you can buy hashtag the panda in multiple forms you know what all across the eastern seaboard but you can get them in the fucking rockefeller center you can get them in orlando florida baby nowhere in the middle we need a like a virginia or west virginia outpost of hashtag there's gotta be like virginia beach there's gotta be like a beach for sure stuff that doesn't sell though they have to like put in a truck somewhere and drive to an outlet store in the middle of the midwest there has to be some midwest store if let's throw it to the listeners do you live in the midwest and have you seen jimmy fallon merch at an outlet store have you seen tight pants have you seen the tight pants have you seen uh

what's the girl the other with the acapella group what's her name fucking the character the character they think is so much more relatable and like unlike identifiable than it actually is we're talking about you you you hosted zach efron and uh uh and seth rogan who nobody no one removes their beards to be you uh will i am did an eu right right. It's drag, but irresponsible drag. And it's first and foremost irresponsible and offensive drag, and that's fine. It's uncommitted to drag.

Yeah, right, exactly. I don't know. I just feel like, you know, Universal Studios, what is the slogan? Ride the movies. Yes. Why aren't we doing that with Jimmy Fallon? Why are we not doing that with the Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket?

You know what I mean? Well, that's weird. It's so Ride Rocket? You know what I mean? It's so fucking easy. You know what I mean? That's such an odd one. Hollywood Rip Ride and Rock. It's so strange. And update the music. Update the music. What's on there? Like semi-charmed life. Keep rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling.

And Fergie Glamorous. Have you used this? There's a concert. Stronger. Stronger's on there. What concert? Do it often. Stronger. Stronger's on there. That was like the most current song. There's a secret menu

of songs too on the Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket. Yeah, but you know those are also 15 years old. And also it's so, you have to pick it so quickly

because when I was there last summer, I took too long looking and they're like, you're listening to Sabotage Friend. Right, right, right. It's pretty good.

You're listening to Bad Girls talking about the sad girls and I'm like,'re listening to sabotage right right right it's pretty good good one girls talking about the sad girls and i'm like i don't hate it but it's not what i would pick it's not roller coaster level energy no it's not look there look i'm looking at the secret menu and i'm gonna keep saying it's important to know what's on the secret menu can i say really fast that this is the ride if you haven't been to universal studios in a long time they kind of took over what used to be an actual like studio area it was then where nickelodeon was oh yes yeah nickelodeon studios uh and they now there's just kind of a not generic roller coaster but an unthemed roller coaster just kind of zooming all around it and you can pick musical

choices on it it just doesn't make any sense it's called the hollywood rip ride rocket it's also not really themed to hollywood you know it doesn't have much california shit about it it's a holdover of like when everyone thought like the future of themed entertainment is interactive you get to choose so you feel like you're involved in the ride right and i i get that but it's like you know what then make it like classic movie soundtracks. You know? You have so much material to choose from. Are you kidding me? Like the universal canon? You couldn't put the Back to the Future theme on there?

Oh, true. Or just like, you know what? It's such a loss to not have Back to the Future represented. You're telling me you couldn't theme those cars like DeLoreans and make that a Back to the Future attraction? Oh, interesting. That was the original idea. I put him bow the original idea around it it was a roller coaster back to the future roller coaster i think so yeah but they realize like it's too difficult to do like show scenes characters and

stuff with roller coasters but you know what you don't necessarily need that you know what i mean right i'm telling you i think it is enough to if to, if you want to put The Simpsons in, and again, another issue I have, not ride the movies. I don't hate the Springfield area, but it is not the assignment. And that's my problem with it. They need to change the slogan. Right. Unfortunately.

I think they have. I think they have. They don't use it anymore synergistic uh tv movie catalog that we own now and we're acquiring more every day right uh yeah because the whole thing is that the whole thing started like with the movie studios out here obviously and now everything everything initially was kind of designed like well you're gonna see how the movies are made and like that's the ride we're talking about today is very much that concept absolutely and a lot of the rides of the concept and now they're caught between like just trying to do a cool theme park and like still the history

of like like they have sound like it's weird that there's just these like soundstage sets and like backlot new york city and the term excuse me the transformers is right there yeah and they still don't have a cool cohesive main street or any hub. Disney still, all of their parks have like a cool main street hub area. And universal is still a big mess. Because, you know,

I think that what, what Disney does right is atmosphere. You know what I mean? What they can give you, like no one else is atmosphere and they can give you immersion. And I think what universal does right is high, high level theme park experiences because you know the thing about like i can complain about how you know i don't think that um you know

let's just say hollywood rip ride rocket belongs there but i like the coaster itself yeah you know i like the attraction itself i think it's aged badly i think it's rockier than it used to be but i like what it is i like that that park has a big roller coaster with a nice steep ass drop and a vertical lift hill you know what i mean i like that about it right but and i think they do attractions well and especially on the adventure i mean they've been doing that but the thing is like it wouldn't be a big jump to just have it thematically make sense so is hulk enough for you theme wise because i always kind of feel like hulk is cool because because you know you got a big hulk statue out there now and it says hulk but really the coaster you're not getting the hulk isn't even snatching at you it doesn't even matter really right is that, you're not getting, the Hulk isn't even snatching at you. It doesn't even matter really. Right. Is that what you're talking about?

Here's the thing with Hulk. The Hulk does its assignment because it sets you up in a world, which is you're going to go through gamma radiation and we're going to see what happens. And so with the launch, sure. You deliberately are like matching theme with experience. Right.

And so therefore, and it's an incredible roller coaster one of the best in the world and especially if you've ridden it recently have you have any of you done it recently i wrote it last year i did it recently after the update my head hurt worse than when it used to i don't know why i think that's getting older because the last time because hollywood rip Ride Rocket hurt my brain more too the last time I rode it. They changed the narrative of the Hulk ride though, did they not? They did.

There's much less of a story than when they had the animation videos. You're right. I mean now it's like sleeker and cooler. It has the soundtrack and I do think the experience in the tube itself as you're getting launched is so much better. I mean like I just think it's

so amazing to look at. The banner doesn't scream anymore. It's weird. Like, I used to know the beat. I could do it with my eyes closed. It kind of felt better narration-wise before. Narration-wise, it felt better before. I think experience-wise, in terms of the marvel of the experience, if you will, the marvel of the experience,

I think that they could have just met in the middle to use a Zedd and Maren Morris song. Maybe they could have uh just met in the middle yeah to use a zed and maren morris song maybe they could have met me in the middle a little bit more is that on the secret menu yeah right honestly it should be what the fuck put that song on there it's a big old hit there should be a secret menu of songs on the hulk come on because i don't need that patrick stump bullshit i'm sorry is that what plays it's a patrick stump composed five out of ten like is it only soundtrack did he make a soundtrack for the ride he made a soundtrack for that for that coaster and that's what plays on the ride this really yeah this is a fallout boy

gentlemen the guy we're never scared what's the what's the ghostbusters what did they do oh i was just gonna sing light him up up up but that's not the one right what was the that's not it you're trying to think of the theme song from ghostbusters colon answer the call ghostbusters answer the call it was like it was the regular song but then like like we're gonna get it we're gonna give it to him. Right? Does anyone remember? How do we all not remember already? I know the Fall Out Boy song that is just sampling the Munsters theme. Really? They did that too? I think that song's a banger.

Oh, you like that song? Yeah, I like that song. Oh, my goodness. And there's a fun music video. Jason, unless maybe you didn't know about this, Jason thinks Nod Your Head, Black Suits Come and Is Better Than the Original Men in Black song. No way. No way. No way. In fact,

I think that's the best part of Men in Black is coming out and hearing Here come the men in black. Sure. I mean, I think you gotta clap when you're there. Can you imagine working there? Oh, I feel just again and again. Hearing it nonstop. Yeah, because they don't

cycle even Black Swords Coming in parentheses Nod Your Head, which is the real They set up that soundtrack one time and they never changed it. Nobody's thinking to put a new CD in the player. They're barely wiping those guns down. Those guns. Those blasters need a little clean. We do too.

I love that shit. And you know, when they one day inevitably say it's coming down, I'm going to be mad. I think the building's cool. The lighting package on the building is cool. You can just feel what used to be cool about it. You know what I mean? Like now you ride it and you're like, Oh, there's a lot of dead space on this attraction.

Like it's not necessarily maximized. And especially now that you have like, you know, the, you know what I just did yesterday? I just went to six flags magic mountain yesterday. Oh really? Yeah. And I had never been, and I did and i did the um uh the metropolis fucking justice league

yeah and i thought with some good graphics with some good like spider-man level or you know transformers level graphics on that that's a cool ride because you also have the interactive like you know shooting element to it and i think like in a world where men in black gets updated to that it's cool but there's no possible way to do that now i don't i feel like this is a universal doesn't really do updates they don't do half steps the way that disney does disney will keep things they have yes i guess spider-man they screen upgraded simpsons out here and harry potter and harry potter yeah that's about it they

don't they don't yeah you're right they don't thematically and like robot wise they rarely seem to change stuff around there's not like there's not the 1.5 step there's not where they keep it a little fresh right the one thing i think is going to be cool about the harry potter forbidden journey forbidden forest um which i think they need to figure out another name for if it's going to be through the forbidden forest and they can't have forbidden journey and forbidden forest that's too much um like the one thing i think is going to be cool about it is it is going to be a lot of practical effects oh is that right yeah it seems like that that from all the leaks that is what it's saying so no screens no screens cool practical stuff like a lot of like transporting trees into the area

like just tons of trees they have to plant that's great yeah i love that though oh yeah if they can legitimately make it seem like the forbidden forest like and really cover the area i think they're gonna do themselves a whole world of you look Look at you. Your face just lit up. Yeah, I'm smiling really earnestly. Trust me. I think that they need it. Because especially now when you go to Universal, and now I'm at the place where I'll do it all in one or two days because I can if I'm in the area for a short amount of time.

You really do get fatigued on those screens. Yes. It is. Universal is... We're not just being like you know like nerds about screen like there's so many screens there's so many screen tricks they have four moves on the it's like i mean when the transformers ride in spider-man are the exact same yes and also when when they open fast and furious and you cross your fingers so hard that a they're gonna make

it different from the hollywood version and they didn't they didn't and b they're gonna make it like at least feel distinct from skull island which they did not it's the same vehicle it's the same thing why are we doing this and that doesn't happen at disney and so when you have the conversation of disney versus universal it's almost hard to be a universal stan which i am when like there's such an obvious you know issue which is that there's too many screens and this isn't you're right it's not just the nerd opinion because you'll take your parents or like who you know like somebody who has no uh stake in this and that's absolutely what they will say when they leave 100 i'd like to know the the history of i feel like it was something that theme park nerds were grumbling about,

and then it became very real around Harry Potter when people were getting sick on the original version that they opened. And now, I think Universal knows that the screen thing's a problem, and I'd love to know how it became real, how aware of it they're, I'd love to hear a Universal person, I'd love to just say, too many screens, and then see what they say. Well, and I i wonder because i think the best screens in a newer ride is the

guardians of the galaxy which i just did for the first time on saturday fantastic crystal clear those screens like when you you you go up in the gantry lift and the the doors open fantastic those screens look great yeah production value babe like it was they gave it to you and honestly i was going in with like some side eye because i am a tower of terror yeah as i think any decent theme park lover is i mean i'm very proud of disney in uh florida so far for maintaining the tower of terror and not just doing the easy thing and recreating the guardians of the galaxy over there and i'm happy that the guardians of the galaxy

thing is going into the universe of energy which you know was essentially just like a wasteland for the last 20 years exxon propaganda we line up pretty well the fact that you were pro uh galaxy mission breaker that you are not that you're fine with the universe of energy going because the theme park nerd party line is often kind of against all i think yeah they're against a lot of change that they got that they took out tarot terror here and mad the universe of energy got touched but no who cares about that it was 45 minutes long yes it's crazy it ate up so much of the day why the fuck was it that long i mean like sorry to your mom i'm sure honestly the f word she's fine seems fine with it's just one thing so well you know

look i mean i think that epcot has a lot of problems oh Oh my God. It's like, of course. Yeah. I mean, it's a mess, but the thing is like, at least give us something good. You know what I mean? Like I do believe, and I've heard some gossip about the guardians of the galaxy, uh, Epcot, um,

rollercoaster as well. Shareable. Yeah. Shareable. I mean, I just heard you're not getting inversions. You're not getting a rock and roller coaster type coaster it will be launched

but I'm out it's kind of you don't like launch coasters I don't do launches yep I have a tough time with the launches

but you're not a rock and roller coaster fan no I haven't done it you haven't we did an episode about it we're gonna it's staggering we're gonna get him

on it at some point we're gonna get him it's gonna be a whole like six month journey of like psyching him into it. Gringotts technically has a little bit of launches. A couple launches. But they're a team because there's kids going on it. I haven't been down there since it was open.

Well, you've got to do Gringotts. What are you going to do on Slinky Dog? Slinky Dog looks like a pretty mild launch. The next generation. It's still a launch. It is a launch. It's not looks like a pretty mild launch. It's still a launch. It's not it being a launch at all. You have to be a completist. If you're going to be an old launch queen, then you have to...

Oh no, I have a term now. These are our launch queens. And I am like a real launch queen. I'm a launch queen. I love it. I do too. Jason does too it jason does too you like launches i like launches the one thing me too i like them better i don't like the suspense i like getting over with and we're going i don't mind a little lift hill that ripper again i can't believe we're

talking about rip ride and rocket this much but that 90 degree lift hill is that's an unnerving sensation to be straight up in the air like as long as it's good i like it i mean like i love a lift hill i mean i I love a lift hill. I mean, I like a quick lift hill. I don't know if you guys have ever been to Six Flags Great Adventure. No, not Great Adventure. That was my Six Flags growing up. Yeah, okay, so me too.

I'm from Long Island. Oh, okay. I'm from suburbs of Philadelphia, but it's been a lot of time. So that was your park. South Jersey and we'd go up on the, take the turnpike up to North Jersey. Right, there you go. So they have a couple of the beasts. I mean,

the Kingda Ka is at 120 mile launch. That's like in two seconds. I mean, it's out of control. Two or three years. Once it started working. Right. I mean,

and I've done it in the front row several times. And you know what I just did for the first time was Superman escaped from Metropolis. No, it's like the what's the Phantom Zone? Clutches of Lex Luthor. Z metropolis no it's like the uh what's the phantom zone clutches of lex luther zod whatever it's called the superman ride at six plays great not not great adventure six plays magic mountain the famous one it might just be called the escape

superman the escape from whatever the planet is i don't even know but uh krypton escape from krypton why would he be escaping from kry Krypton I don't know He was a child He was getting blown up Or something maybe Is the idea that you're In the spaceship And like Jor-El

Has put a You're a baby There was literally No information given Because of six flags On my head Six dollars Alright fair enough

Continue sorry But they But it's a Hundred mile per hour Launch Backwards Sure Because then you go up right you go straight

up and then you come back down and that is crazy but i got love a good launch coaster and unfortunately for you that new harry potter coaster is giving you launch yeah i have to get over this if i ever want to go on a ride again because you just gotta get over it they're not that bad what what is it that that scares you about it um suddenness yeah i think i feel like i feel like a like a like a heart sensation that is unpleasant to me but that might be the same sensation might be pleasant to a person who likes them have you ever done a launch coaster yes okay i just stopped in like the in the mid 2000s uh this is my 40-year-old virgin story. I gotta just stop trying.

I would do... The thing we all remember from that movie. Yeah, the catchphrase. His sad motivation. The most serious part of the 40-year-old virgin.

I did the mummy uh i have done the mummy i have done california screaming but not in a very long time uh now in credit coaster i want i want to see in credit coaster i want to do it so i'll get over you have to do it i mean i was just so disappointed on saturday when i went and it was closed maybe it was too hot or something yeah it was it was so lame. Might have been to the... The heat wave has been so horrendous as we're recording this. I was there on Saturday when it was 107 degrees. And the Incredicoaster was shut down. And I don't know.

Maybe it was because it was new or there's new elements or something. They wanted to close it down. I mean, as Jason said, there's no robots on it. It's just statues. So the statues probably weren't malfunctioning. So it was something else. You've done the Incredicoaster? We did it.

You did. Okay. Yeah. All right. It's fun. It's done the Incredibles 3? We did it. You did it. Okay, yeah. All right. It's fun. It's fine. It's the same thing you remember. The music's great,

and there's some cool statues to look at of the Incredibles. Okay. You know what I just did at Disneyland, which holds up is Indiana Jones. Oh, my God. It's the best. It holds up. The animatronics are great. Yeah.

With that one Indiana animatronic that illuminates and he's hanging above you and then the ball comes down. That's good stuff. I mean, that's top five ride of all time, I think. We haven't ranked them, but...

Right. I'm just not a California guy. So, you know, I've only done it twice in my life. But this is the second time I had done it. And why in the world was that never reproduced except for dinosaur yeah but that's not the same thing when it was countdown to extinction that was a good ride what that difference one was good and

one was yeah because it used to be a lot more intense and people complained and they tamed they tamed it which is similar to indiana jones which the ride vehicles used to be a lot more intense and people like they've slowed them down since so like i don't know if it's it was probably a similar thing of like too aggressive it is weird though you would build the exact same track with the cars and not plug indiana jones is it the exact same thing it's the exact same track yeah because i was just on it in march again and i'm like this is so funny i'll take some of the heat of a scott this is a ride that kind of traumatized me when i went on it like 15 years ago so there's something sort of in the back of my mind that still tells me it's scary but i went on it this time and i was like you're a tough guy and everything's gonna be fine

and i kept my eyes open and it's crazy you're just like oh there's the skull room here we go here's the wow it's exactly the same okay it's very dark like the end of it it's very dark and there's just like a lot of flashes of light so that i can see that being unnerving speaking of unnerving like the attraction that we are here to discuss today terrified me like none other oh really yeah thanks for segging in yeah that was well we are we sometimes we fail to we'll we'll just not 15 on not on the topic so thank you for that you can call this twister ride it out and just stop it right now and it would kind of thematically make sense because this this conversation has been like a tornado of we don't know where it's going

goodness well we didn't i mean as we lead into the attraction uh uh you want to talk about how did you become a theme park fan like what is your story what a background of wow um this is crazy i mean like to be totally honest with you i don't know i think that what happened was it was the first i'm a creative person and um something about going when i was young i think i went to disney world for the first time when i was like five or six and just like if you do get to go at that age i think it's hard to forget you know what i mean like i'm i'm someone who and i could probably go to therapy about this and find out why but here's a weird thing about me every night in my dreams and that's not just the first line of a celine dion song but it's also the first line of this sentence every night

in my dreams i have theme park dreams really oh wow yeah like often i will have a dream where just i'll be online for a theme park attraction the whole time i'm sleeping and then i'll get on a ride and i'll wake up like it's really bizarre i don't know what it is but i'm obsessed with them and i have been from a young age i remember i think the first year i ever went to back to um universal was 98 and this was like when back to the future was at its height like it was the i remember it had the tagline like the greatest ride in the world um my dad was like you're gonna love this and they took me and i just really liked movies and was into that and couldn't believe like the um mashup of movies and theme park attractions i thought i felt that it was like theater and i

still do like i do think at the highest level it's like yeah so great and so i just never got over it i always was like demanding that that's where we go on vacation and got my little sister into it through i think disney and universal found that I actually really liked roller coasters and fancied myself a little bit of a thrill seeker growing up. But I think it was 2002. No, no, no. 1999 was when Islands of Adventure opened. So it was like 2000, 2001 when my parents went down with us to um universal and it was one of the first years that

it was like a full theme park destination like the way that disney was trying to be yeah right and it was the first year we were not going to do disney um because i think my parents were like a little disappointed in animal kingdom and like the you know it was just such a vast experience because that really was not anything for so long yeah um i agree yeah i i have like unpleasant memories from that time of that part yeah big and hot and no no rides and like too much mcdonald's yeah like a special place i think i appreciate it more as an adult like the theming and stuff walking around i think a lot of the trees grew and filled in like shade and honestly you're probably not wrong yeah and it feels i i just went um well there's rides now there's some

i mean expedition everest was huge for huge for them oh yeah like i liked countdown to extinction always have but like the kilimanjaro safaris is not a ride. It's a safari. The Kali River Rapids are not top tier rapids ride. And now I think you go back there and I mean, I think they have what is one of the top rides in the world, which is Flight of Passage. I mean, it's just phenomenal. You guys have all done it?

Just Mike. Just me. Oh, you didn't do it. You are you gotta get down there it's transcendent well i my family my family too occasionally will go and and just do like a long weekend at universal uh i tried to shame you you went down and just went to universal and i tried to shame you into going to pandora but you didn't yeah uh uh but like especially like in 2000 or 2003 or so like there wasn't a lot of stuff opening there wasn't like islands of adventure was like the last big opening it was the new thing thing and it's still like is that the first no i guess california adventure has opened since then but like islands of Adventure was the first...

We're going to the 21st century theme park. We are big time due for something new. The first maybe new theme park that was... Well, Animal Kingdom was in our lifetime, but Islands of Adventure is better. So probably the best theme park that's opened in our lifetimes. I guess MGM is in M so yeah but the first time they would they would argue that volcano bay is like a new theme park but the volcano is great but around it is a normal i actually didn't even get to go well the volcano is insane yeah like i like i was just in the wave pool staring at it going this is

the greatest like fake thing i've ever seen and And then you go in around the rim, it's just like regular slides. Right. So if it was all themed like the volcano, it would be insanely cool. But the volcano itself is the attraction. Which is interesting that they didn't go all the way with that. You know what I mean? You think that they've learned from it. I don't want to get us off on a whole thing, but Universal,

I feel like there's these start and stops. Once Harry Potter came, I feel like all the chatter was like, they got it. Here we go. We're about to go on like a 20 year run of the greatest theme park attractions ever. And then all of a sudden like, you know, fast and furious comes out and it's screens.

And then it's like starting fits and starts to this whole thing. And I don't know if we're ever going to get that. Like, I think they just need to slow down. I think that they're on this. I think they're on this thing where they're like, we're going to open a new thing every year, and I think the danger with that is that they're just going to start copying themselves,

and I think that guest response is not good to Fast and the Furious Supercharged, and I think they're going to learn from it. I've seen people on Twitter going like, we waited for an hour and we're very disappointed it's bad i mean i i don't think that and especially like the amount of space it's taking up yeah like it's like footprint it's huge and also like you know um i think that's why they're trying to create something very new and individual at um the new harry potter roller

coaster okay and and you know i do think that skull island is impressive i do like skull island yeah but the ride is the ride is kind of lame but then there's just a big king kong at the i know that was very cool it's amazing it's great yeah but he doesn't swipe at you. You want him to swipe at you. I wanted a little more. We want to feel like we're in danger. You want a big paw. Hit you. Come on, Jason. I mean, yeah, there were so many crazy rumors. Like, the rumors of stuff that never gets built, the blue sky rumors of, like,

there's going to, the King Kong will reach into your Varied vehicle and take your guide. And rip out the driver. Will kill your driver. Whoa. That was the rumor. There will be one that chases the car then. That's the rumor, too. There was a robot monkey that chased

you too i don't i'm less optimistic though because as you as we're saying like this is harry potter coaster is going to be great the harry potter stuff is usually very good but yeah but you also said born identity is coming which kind of sounds like another but down the horizon is also nintendo and i think nintendo world will be fantastic nintendo world will be harry potter level but um you know and that's the thing with universal and to go back to what i was saying like their highs are high and their lows are low um but uh i think that when i first went in 2001 or whatever, when there was Ounce of Adventure and the studios, and you could stay on the resort and you can still do this,

but your hotel key was your express pass, and you could get to the front of everything. It's great. It's truly remarkable. It's still good, but back then, my family, we were shocked by it the first couple times we stayed at the Hard Rock down there, because we're like, we can't believe this works. no we can do this did and now they're doing that now that

they're getting bigger and bigger and bigger and it's like it's gonna be hard for it to you know maintain that but um i will never forget like we went to do twister and it had been closed the three years i remember they were they were to open it in 98, 99. And that was the first year I was there. But the El Nino had been particularly bad. And there had been homes lost to natural disasters. In Florida. There were tornadoes in Florida that caused a lot of damage.

And they actually had a sign outside that said, out of respect for the recent weather events, that the opening of the attraction Twister Rided Out was delayed. They donated money, evidently, to the victims. And this was before, wow, 100,000. 100,000. Yeah, because I think that they really, I mean, they were really playing with fire there. I mean, to another pun on Universal which every day but you know it's a little insensitive to have our theme park attraction where in which you enjoy like things based on things that kill people and destroy homes and destroy lives gift shop being

called aftermath it's all right right no i wasn't probably not but um to be honest with you when you go see bill and ted's excellent adventure show realize, oh, taste is not a thing here. We'll get to it. That's coming. Couldn't believe being a gay man watching that. Oh, you saw it down there or here? I saw it down there. Oh, boy.

Oh, because they kept doing it for a little bit later. And it was like the Florida version of it, baby. Yeah. Oh, tell us something. What's the detail? So I saw it pre-election. Oh, wow. So there was a lot detail? I saw it pre-election. Oh, wow. So there was a lot of political humor in the show.

Of course. And it was like the shock and the horror, which was a Hillary character coming out and the whole crowd booing. And then Trump being depicted as a character and people cheering. I was like, oh, wow. That's when you knew you know

that was october and it was the election was obviously on november 9th and um i was with my boyfriend at the time and my sister and we were sitting there and it was like this realization that we were surrounded by trump voters and like you know god bless uh if you listen to this and you're a trump voter but you know it was hard it was i was hard and it was like wow it was like really sunk in and my sister lives in saint petersburg florida and she was like yeah this is what i'm telling you it's like it doesn't feel as good down here like you know it doesn't feel optimistic and then you know okay the rest is history we don't have constant lynn manuel uh benefits we don't have lena dunham rapping uh okay i was in that funny or die video oh really yeah you talked about that

i was in that funny or die video with lena dunham yeah where she rapped what can you say about this i can say she's exactly what you think very nice okay but kind of that girl okay um it was funny that the joke was lena you shouldn't do this and yet it was that because yeah and so yeah weird way to soften everything with the hillary campaign good intentions little misguided there's a part in the video where she says i wonder if this is actually hurting her chances of winning yeah yeah i'm fully in there oh boy i didn't realize that uh are you a friend at the beginning telling her not to beginning oh wow the one who's like my choice they had us improvise okay and my choice was i'm gonna be the one who's like trying to get her to say fucked up shit so that I can get it and like sell it to like a magazine. And she loved that.

She was like, she was like, oh my God. Yeah, that's so funny. Can you improvise a bunch of takes of like insulting things to me? And I was like, yeah. And so basically it was me just like ripping Alina down to her face. Whoa. It was a crazy experience, but she was so cool about it. And I really do like her.

Sure, sure. I'm like a fan. I really do like her. Sure, sure. I'm like a fan. I know that she's problematic. Do you know where Lammy is? Oh, my God. Do you know what happened? Do you have any insider information? The fuck are you talking?

No. That's the dog. No, I don't know what's going on with Lammy. What are you talking about? Lena Dunham's dog, Lammy. Lammy? She followed me on Instagram and has since unfollowed me which really hurts oh so you could say whatever now too complex to get into but she had a dog for years that seemed like it

was a pain in the ass it kept biting her it tried to bite other people she got rid of from the narrative yeah i wonder where that dog is i i think in the rescue or whatever organization got it from was like there's a we make people sign a contract that if you're not going to keep the dog, you give it back to us and we find a home for it. And I think she gave it somewhere out here, but well, we'll find that. Lambie centric.

Yeah. Twister. How did I get there? Where were we going? The video. So yeah, the Bill and Ted show, a taste aftermath, the gift shop yes okay so um

i went down there and twister was open and i remember just like we were all going in and there was like the pre-show videos outside of like real twisters remember that yeah actual actual in the queue home is being destroyed real home video footage of F5 tornadoes ripping homes apart so then you go in and it's this sort of

intense pre-show which starts with the very first scene of Twister the movie the 1996

Yondebont film starring Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton the late great yes and before we go too far can i just just really fast because on my way out the door like my wife who's pretty like knowledgeable about this stuff she was not sure about the basics of twister ride it out so just to put to put it in context in the park, it's in the New York area of Universal Studios Florida. Yep, Twister was in the New York area.

Replaced the Ghostbusters. Next to the Guggenheim. Spectacular. Next to the Guggenheim facade. Now Race Through New York is there, but just the basic, the style of attraction, it's like the East Coast equivalent of the backdraft ride here where it's uh uh i call it rooms of peril right so you move from like one room with no peril to one with some and then one with a lot and let me tell you they nailed that like i thought

that like um yeah it was a special effects it wasn't even a ride it was there no part of it was right there was a i guess six centimeter drop at the end that yes the platform you're on right which was shocking the first time i did it um but it was a special effects show essentially even though the ride is called twister ride it out yeah very very confusing but not a ride and i also want to make sure i'll say it now and hopefully you're looking at the correct uh uh way to write it out in in the episode title it should be twister no space dot dot dot no space ride it out which is in some circles the way you're supposed to do in ellipses where it really there's no i write for vulture um and my editor sometimes like i'll just do like twister dot dot dot with no space in between twister and dot dot dot when you're often writing

about twister when i'm often writing about it like i'm just using an example and then like they'll like put a space but after the word and i'm like oh that's interesting that's the way that's supposed to go my dad works for chicago tribunal ap style he tries to get me to put a space in between those yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, I don't know about both. I think maybe both. I do it as the word and then... I think some people do both. Some publications have their own style guides

and some just adhere to AP style. Fascinating. I have half of a journalism degree, never finished, converted to something else. Yeah, oh my god, so did I. At least there's an ellipses on your journalism career. Pretty much. That, never finished, converted to something else. Yeah, oh my God, so did I. There's an ellipses on your journalism career. Pretty much. That was never finished.

Same with that sociology minor. Also unfinished. Yeah. I just wanted to say the basics of the ride, because I think there are, or the non-ride, I think there are people who didn't know this thing existed. Well, the thing is, it was unmissable in the park, because as you were walking down the first street into, the thing is, it was unmissable in the park because as you were walking down

the first street into the New York area, it was huge. I mean, like, and the Twister, I loved, like, the facade of it. Like, I thought it was so great.

Being kind of, like, torn up. Yeah, and it was... The ride itself, the duration of the ride was... It was about 15 minutes. It was also a long one. So the first room was... you see the first scene of

twister and then you see bill paxton like in his perfect like this is a plank of wood style glory just come out and he puts his hand on his hip babe and the posture with which he delivers this um i was telling i was saying before like i have i have it on my phone still i have a video of it on my phone from when you because it closed it closed and i said 2016 2015 i knew that it was gonna be um i'll play it into my mic please um yeah two screens though two projection screens in that first room because they didn't have paxton and hunt at the same time do you know why shot them separately i hear they didn't like each other like each other wow they didn't get along um and actually when he passed away she posted a nice picture of him together them together and

she's and she wrote um you are the reason why this movie was great man you acted your heart out on this movie and it was it was really like kind of nice um because you know if you watch the movie he really does give it a lot so now i have um i have bill paxton oh good hold on wait let me do this again oh that's my favorite line he's about to say. Here we go. All right, folks. Uh-oh, wait, I just lost it.

I'm going to cut this part out. And. The movie Twister is about one of the most primordial forces on the face of the earth. At the same time, a tornado is one of the most awe-inspiring sights one can witness in nature. I'm Bill Paxton. I play a storm chaser determined to confront that mystery and that's all i have but just know that's the best and then she comes out and says and i'm helen hun and she's wearing her fucking classic white tank top from the movie and like classic like oh my god like and he looks over i like that he like just does this blatant look like like well she'll be next to you on a video screen and honestly that's like a part of that's like an

era of these theme parks that i missed just like this like stupid shit that they thought we bought into i mean i think it's it's crazy and very big of them to do this ride now i'm sure it was in their contract they had to do the ride but uh reading about the making of twister that movie was a fucking nightmare to make yeah i mean they get into a little bit in the pre-show but um i mean they were blinded by they were blinded by lights super powerful lights yeah and they and they had real hair special glass. Real hail. They were, the director was like. Yondebont. Yondebont.

Fresh off of Speed. Coming off of Speed. And this, Twister did end up being a huge hit. It was number two in 96 after Independence Day. And it was a huge hit. But it's like, what else did they do? Oh, Helen Hunt got a concussion. She like kept hitting her head on something.

And then Jan said, she is clumsy. Yeah, yeah. His response. He actually said afterwards, Helen is rather clumsy and hit her head a lot. Jeez. And then this quote, copy pasted from the Wikipedia. After filming in a particularly unsanitary ditch, Hunt and Paxton needed hepatitis shots. Just insane. Yeah. unsanitary ditch hunt and paxton needed hepatitis shots just insane yeah you know this is around the same time that uh titanic was also being shot yeah there's also horror stories about that oh

yeah i think like like on these blockbuster movies they hadn't figured out yet how to take care of their cast and probably you know it probably is even worse when it comes to the crew because you know the i'm sure it was oh yeah the crew walked off yeah and they lost the whole dp crew yeah the db crew and then ilm uh had to more than double their original plan for 150 digital sky replacement shots because they had to shoot so many of the tornado scenes in like broad daylight and they had to like fix it in post and this was a time where that was like incredibly expensive uh what is it is all worth it because we get this theme park attraction out of it uh and you get i mean yeah they imply in the ride both paxton and hunt that it was a difficult shoot but paxton goes a little deeper and seems to

imply that the ride made him go mad yeah he's like you begin to believe that the movie is real what's happening around you is not fiction but the real monster storm and the tornado is a life of its own like a demon creature like he literally like in the second room so you have this first room where they helen's like now you'll experience what a twister truly can be and then like like literally at that point like a lot of the kids in that room were like no i'm not doing this um and i was with my cousin at the time my cousin at the time my cousin and um now and then yeah uh he was like are we gonna do this and i hope emma was there and we were like yeah let's keep going but it was scary it put you in the world yes yeah her father helen hunt's

father like you see the opening scene in the movie uh and her character as a child watches her father yeah get ripped out of a storm cellar into a tornado and it's very upsetting yes terrifying i realize it's very similar to what um they would do in man of steel the zack snyder superman movie when he watches his father die at the hands of a tornado it's a tornado similar in fact very similar but then you you go from that room into uh what is essentially a recreation of aunt may's house and meg and meg and may famously another aunt. Spider-Man. Who's that? Scott's Aunt Meg

is Lois Smith's character from Twister. I'm sorry. She makes food for all of the different people. Wait, who? by a tornado.

Who's aunt? I believe it's Helen Hunt's aunt. It's Joe's aunt. Joe's aunt. Okay, Helen Hunt. Do you want to know the names of each

of the crew members? I guess. You know who else is in that movie? Philip Seymour Hoffman. Philip Seymour Hoffman. The great Philip Seymour Hoffman. Alan Rock. Wow.

Character's name. Rabbit. Sanders. Lawrence. Preacher. Harry Ellis. Beltser. And Dusty is Philip Seymour Hoffman's character.

Dusty. He's a tornado guy. He's like a tornado guy. He's like a tornado guy. The whole time he's like very much into tornadoes oh the guy loves it again he's very into it um storm chasers it's about a bunch of wild storm chasers very very that yeah and um so then you're in that room and that's when it gets starts to get like scary uh-huh there's a car going through the ceiling of aunt meg's house yeah i don't know do

they say i i went on it once when i was younger and i was watching the video do they say now we're going into aunt meg's house they just that's just sort of led into that room yeah and then you experience like them saying like after a while you don't know what's real what's fake the twitter takes on its own demon personality being as terrorized etc etc etc, et cetera, et cetera. And she's like, and all you can do is hang on. And then,

and then he says something like, he says like, and after a while, there's only one thing you can do. And it cuts to his face and he goes, hang on for your life. And it cuts to a white noise. And then you hear sirens.

And the, the, um, people in like yellow in like yellow like uh raincoats come out with the uh the directional directors but why wouldn't also i was expecting indigo there's one thing you can do ride it out like whatever they don't yeah it seems like a given i don't know i think like yeah maybe it should have been called twister hang hang hold on for hold on that's so stupid they should have been nothing it should have just been twister the attraction or should have been twister stand here while some stuff happens yeah or they should have given you all a leather belt is it a belt or a leather strap like that's the big ending of they they strap onto some water pipes in a pump house where

apparently the pipes in a pump house go well underground so they're very like secure and grounded but they're like wrapped up in it so that's the tip that's how they survive anybody listening if uh or tornado strikes while you're listening to this episode get your leather belt out and strap it to some pipes and hold on to your life and hold on to your life which you do in the third scene yes you have to there's three tiers and i always went all the way to the front and sat in the middle not sat you stood in the middle i went all the way up to the guardrail you're very brave very brave to be right near the twister which happens but i remember when i was younger like what happens in that last scene like really like got me i was like oh my god there's a

real fucking twister here. And all the show scenes, all the elements are so fun. A cow flies in, and the lightning breaks the tree in half, and the movie screen flies away, and the sign flies away. Should we set the scene? You're kind of in this small town tableau. What's the name of the city you're in? You're in the scene.

Waukega, Oklahoma. Waukega, Oklahoma. the scene you're kind of in this like small town tableau what's the name of the city you're in oklahoma and you're in this you're in literally the scene from the movie which is the drive-in scene yeah yeah which is a major climactic moment in the movie um but also all of a sudden an f5 rolls an f5 it's an f5 on the fujita scale what is it it's called the finger of god it's called the finger of god that is a favorite line you are technically in a quonset hut i think which is a temporary uh metal sheet metal hut uh often used by the military like that's kind of what you're standing on it's an exact recreation of the scene from the movie where that's where they go to hide from the tornado and of course there is a gas station in front of you in classic universal studios style so that we're talking about universal reusing a lot of stuff a lot of the old tricks are in this ride the gas the the way like the trail like the

splashing of water yeah the splashing water happens at every right broke right if it ain't broke sure if it ain't broke but the interesting thing about twister is if you were in the third row you got really wet uh-huh so i never got wet because the water came from the back oh yeah i remember um because the the video reminded me of a lot of stuff but i did not recall what it was like physically and wind wise to be in that room a lot of wind okay yeah a lot of wind i mean a lot you know in in terms of like the fire did its job it was hot the water did its job it got you wet there was the uh wind they nailed it the wind was blowing and then the only crappy funny element was the cow yeah yes the cow is pretty silly it was silly but it gets a laugh i got a laugh and it was fun you know what i mean like

dorothy four don't forget dorothy four or maybe it's dorothy three at that point the movie that's the uh device they used to measure the sword right dorothy was in there and that was kind of like fun for people that knew the movie um but uh do you guys know about the the merchandise what you would find in aftermath i don't the store oh yeah it was like the dvd it was like you know little cows there's a lot of tchotchkes a lot of uh tchotchke stuff i have a very particular uh one but i want to hear oh well just according to the way, I think I was on Yesterland, and they make a big deal out of how, you know, in 2005 and beyond, people don't want to buy, you know, Twister memorabilia as much, so they went all in on the cow.

Yeah, it was like us. It's very, like, big dog kind of t-shirts with like attitude. Oh, wow. Graphics. I love that. Professional lawnmower is what, what?

Like a lawnmower. And then it's just, it's kind of a disheveled cow who's like not going anywhere, but I'm lazy and I'm staying here. And he's saying moo in a lazy way. Huh? And then another one with a fancy cow with a monocle and a pipe. And it says head of the herd so if you're a person who uh needed to convey your personality with one of those

shirts i'd like to talk to you for a while and i wish i had and i wish i was yeah here's what i remember about aftermath because another thing they leaned into was like well this movie takes place in the midwest so here's a lot of folksy like tin signs and cookie jars and stuff and a giant display of moon pies a favorite snack of mine that was the first place i think i ever had a moon pie was at i was like oh moon pie because i remember seeing them like superman origin story with moon pies like food network shows that would be like uh you know how how is this made sort of thing um if you you're probably you're like fuzzy on where you lost your virginity but first place

when you fell in love with moon pies uh also right outside for a very brief period of time and this was another thing i remember from like a food network show do you guys remember cool dogs you're out what are you talking about okay this is a this was a dessert treat that lasted a very short amount of time it is a sponge cake uh shaped like a bun and then it is a uh like a tube of vanilla ice cream that looks like a hot dog and then chocolate sauce and whipped cream and sprinkles essentially a dessert hot dog they made a dessert hot dog i think they thought like we're gonna be the next dip and dots and i saw it when you're at universal i went back the next summer and cool dogs were gone no no cool dogs they call it the official dessert of god

i found the only piece of merch i can find on eBay for Twister. Write it out. This is the shirt. And I would wear this. I think I'm going to get that. This is like a bid me. I'll bid me. It's like from the pattern.

It's a cloud pattern. That's like from the Minds Eye DVDs. Yeah. It's got a 95 screensaver esque, but on a shirt. It's pre-owned 30 dollars uh it is xl i'm a large though so i know i'm not gonna wear a big shirt a little small make it work yeah matt what did you think of the like because i mean you you end up in the middle of the hurricane and you see a lot of like the wind tornado sorry tornado a lot of the wind effects i mean the sound

i really remember the sound. It was something like 50-something speakers in there. It was just so loud. It was great. I mean, they did a great job. The only part of it which was like, ugh, which was sometimes the twister would look really weak. The funnel?

Yeah, right. So the twister itself, the main event. I can see people walking away from it and being like, what the fuck? But when you wrote it at a certain amount of time in the day like after it had been kicking up a lot like yeah it couldn't be the first or second thing you did because that was like the first or second times it was actually activating yeah so if you did it at like three or four p.m it had been going all day and it got really thick the funnel itself and like like it was you

know it was pretty crazy like i remember the first time i did it i was like young and i was looking up at it and it was like big and it felt like i didn't know what was happening and then you've got uh the final little that you're the floor bucks under you yes and that was a really shocking part and of course also the ceiling rises and then falls like it's gonna collapse on you um so those two elements combined were pretty cool and so the first time i did it it was pretty startling and i loved it and i always have love for it for the first time i did it and i always like went back and did it i remember every time i was there i would do it like twice while i was there i just i did it and i always like went back and did it i remember every time i was there i would do it like twice while i was there i just i loved it i loved the sensation of game i loved

like revisiting that feeling of being a little kid and like really being scared about it and like i just liked how to watch how everyone else reacted to it i don't know it really was my favorite thing i always like overrated it whenever i was asked what i liked it always was just one of my favorites like you recognize if you had to make a list of greatest theme park attractions versus ones you love the most yeah that would rank oddly high yeah yeah yeah i mean but that's that's that's you're right it's what you like yeah i mean i remember like just i would like when i was a little freak i would like make lists after every trip i was like here's the order in which i liked everything and it was always um excuse me it was always in the top 10 okay out of all the um

attractions there and really i had no right being there i mean like revenge of the mummy is always number one for me and then you got your grand gods you got your forbidden journey you got your um hulk are you upset with the i don't want to get all the revenge of the mummy out here does that upset you because it's a bummer that it's not as good as it's not as good it's i mean that was the thing with the tower of terror out here it's just oh it was good but it wasn't as good as i mean it's bigger disappointment though than tower of terror out here was oh yeah revenge of the mummy the ride out here in cal is nothing. A joke. Evicted E.T. Yeah, right. For being a lesser

version. And also it ends so abruptly. Yeah. It's just ridiculous. There's an eclipse. Get it? That's what those lights are anyway. It's bad they changed a few times because like, oh, it never made a look of there used to be a very convoluted story about

finding the Magi symbol which makes more sense in the florida version but this one it's never kind of really there's a convoluted story in the florida one too but it's like it doesn't really matter because the ride in and of itself is so amazing and also of course what florida has which hollywood doesn't have is the incredible like fake out and fake out ending the first time i did that i was that startled me so much i couldn't believe they did i don't think i know the fake out ending oh the fake out ending in florida is it's a launch coaster the mummy and you you essentially go through i guess it's like two minutes of ride and then you stop and it does a girl's voice says thank you so much for

experiencing and then like and like you see her silhouette pat behind a screen and the screen bursts and you there's like a water on you which is supposed to be her blood and then the imhotep is like says your souls are mine for all eternity and like the ceiling um bursts into flames there's an incredible feature of that ride which is the whole ceiling is engulfed in fire jesus that's fucking amazing then he says your souls are mine and you are launched into a very steep yes yeah a decline and then the rest of the coaster takes you the rest of the way but it is it's it's incredible i think if you're in the back of the car you can hear him yell death is only the death is only the beginning which i was like oh yeah like that was great you're right

vice says that in a movie like so quietly but in this he is screaming yes yes death is only the beginning is the line there and earlier he says your souls are mine when you're launched into his mouth um but death is only the beginning i remember the first time i heard it i was like oh my god and the second time i heard it i i laughed hysterically it is so funny and then great the ride is over not long after that but yeah no that's that's a uniquely good ride and also the way they were hyping that attraction up before it opened oh yeah it was like they were literally saying hi this will be the best thing you've ever done right and it was just like when they were calling it

like a psychological thrill ride i was like i was like what are you thinking here and then you do it and you're like oh no that was the shit yeah and that was also i forget how the timing works out on this when did do you remember when mummy opened 2004 okay so i i they probably closed kong by this point but that uh fake marquee the fake movie theater facade that used to be the islands of adventure preview center yes it was you would go room to room and see what was coming to the parks including stuff that never materialized like the orlando marvel mania restaurant which as a little kid uh uh i guess it wasn't that low i was probably 12 but i just remember being down there in 99 islands of adventure open city walk open i'm like looking at all the maps and i'm like where is the marvel media and i asked so many people and they're like

i don't we don't what we don't know that's so sad you like just the saddest little boy i just and then yeah i and thankfully there was plenty in the island so plenty to keep me occupied jason realizing that he was not going to find the marvel Mania and sadly walking away and muttering to himself, death is only the beginning. At that point, it was. Were you, Matt, when you were a kid, were you a scared kid on these rides? I mean, obviously you liked being scared, but I was just flat out scared. We were all, except for Jason, scared kids.

Well, yeah, I would read so much about them beforehand. I had all the travel books and everything like i would read so much about them that by the time i got in front of them i would really be scared and psych myself out to the point where like before that universe first universal trip i went to epcot one time and there was um the uh honey i shrunk the audience yes scared the shit out of me yeah And there was a part where the snake, uh, and I knew about that and I screamed and cried because my parents were going on the ride.

And I was like, I don't want to because of the snake. And my grandmother stayed with me outside the ride. She was like, you guys go, I'll stay with him. But I was like, Oh,

it sucks because like, all I want to do is go on that, but I'm so scared of the snake. And then I got a little bit older and, um, it happened one more time, which was, I had done every ride in this theme in islands of adventure and universal including dr doom's fearful fearful which is scary yeah um but i was about to go on hulk and my dad was like okay let's go and i was like no i don't want to go he's like we're going

because if you don't do it you're gonna feel bad and we're gonna go and it's not a big deal and we're gonna go and my mom was like richie don't make him do it if he doesn't want to do it and he was like no we're going because we're not gonna hear the end of it and then i went on it and i remember what i said to him before i got on just remember i told you so like i was gonna die or something but i loved it yeah yeah of course heavy statements i was scared but but um i got over it and then once you do it it's it's it's fine yeah yeah of course um well i'm really i thought your answer to that might be no loved it did everything no i was like a fidgety anxious kid but you did you know then do it unlike us in some in a lot of settings yeah uh so congrats and i never won an alien encounter and i regret it to this either

i've never done it were you scared i didn't do anything of course okay well jason did because he's the bravest of the three of us was it as scary as everyone said oh yeah it was great and watching other people freak out like once you knew the beats of it then just like oh this is gonna really get them like it was you were even fascinated by it people's fear yeah well i just i liked all i like that was an original thing like it was never anywhere else it was there and the alien was an original it was all new stuff you were like enjoying people screaming yeah and it's funny because I don't like, like I watch like one horror movie every two years.

Like I think I joked recently, like I saw the Babadook a couple years ago. I'll probably get around to It Follows this year. And like similarly with books too. It's like, all right, I read The Shining last year and maybe this year I'll try 20th Century Ghosts. Or like I really psyched myself up for horror stuff. It's like, all right, I read The Shining last year, and maybe this year I'll try 20th Century Ghosts. I really psych myself up for horror stuff.

One of my deep regrets is not doing Alien Encounter, and I find myself very fascinated with it now, and I'll watch all the videos that are dedicated to it now, and I'll just try to recreate as best I can. But it's videos of nothing. It's videos of darkness. There's no way to know unless you went on it yeah i guess i just mean like literally like right like videos that like talk about the development of the attraction and like if you search for them you can find them you can see sir and skippy in full light yeah and the alien yeah the alien you can see and the alien is truly terrifying in these videos it is like i can't believe they

got away with doing something that's scary looking like you did a magic kingdom i mean they were committed to that also my favorite part of the whole thing is the fact that tyra banks is in the pre-show oh yeah she's an alien so funny over it's not her voice yeah dubbed over not her voice but she's like moving and like lip-syncing for life. As it were. She was the first to lip sync for her life. She was the first drag queen to lip sync for their life. Smizing. Smizing is an AIN. Smizing indeed.

She was like, and I remember there's one part where she like is giving direct to camera address and then she turns her head and the back of her head is so long. Oh, it's a great review. She plays that really well, right? She's a supermodel, baby. Oh, yeah, she knows how to turn. What am I talking about? Let me talk about a terrifying moment in our main topic,

which is when the tree splits in half. Some of these effects are, the cow's a little hokey. The tree splitting in half is... It was also weird. It's awfully slow. The driving sign's pretty good. The driving sign is amazing. The tree looks like if you were to take a piece of string cheese

and slowly rip it apart, that's what the tree looks like when it's coming down. Because all the stuff has to go back in five minutes. Yeah, you can see the reset on that. uh from inside the uh food stand yeah that's really good in there with people running around i think some very good will him screams too some very good like people like screaming in horror yeah yeah no it was well done overall can i play a little thing that which is this is from a little making of a special or something that I found. And the sound you'll hear at the beginning is the tree ripping in half,

but then someone will come out and explain what's going on. All right, thanks. Wow, that was a close one. Hi, I'm Mike Hightower, and I'm standing in the middle of Twister, riding out. That's that. Wow. That was amazing.

Hi, I'm Mike Hightower. Mike Hightower, not quite the same amount of presence as Tyra, but I think he worked it to his own degree. I like that a lot, and it made my wife laugh in just the way i knew it would because it's the same the exact same high that gerald ford gives when he comes out on the simpsons when at the end of the uh i'm gerald ford yeah this sweet aaron described it as if a marshmallow could talk that's what it would sound like the sweetest high it's's so simple. Hi. So, good job, Mike.

Good job, Mike. High tower, not Carlson. We'll post that video on the Twitter. Yeah, no, I didn't do good. Did you guys come across, we talked about the funnel, and I watched a video on YouTube that talked about how one of the Universal Creative people saw an exhibit in San Francisco by this artist who like did sculptures

of tornadoes and vortexes and stuff and would do installations for museums and i think that's where i first saw this effect of like that sort of funnel that missed funnel and they're like oh well that's how we'll do the twit we'll we'll get him to consult on like how to make one of these for twister and i think they wanted really big like bigger than it was and i feel like they lost control like they couldn't rely on it and that's why it it was kind of like skinny and a little tall but not super tall if you wrote it at a bad time i've wrote it if you experienced it at a bad time it looked lame yeah i am i'm so impressed of all of people's different nerddoms that they've brought to this podcast the fact that you know the veracity of the streams of the of the the cyclone

in this situation based on the hour i've done it i had done it prior to being it demolished um 20 times i think i've done revenge of the mummy like over 40 times like i'm telling you like yeah oh my god well it never has a line uh um and i know when i first opened that was like yeah right hit right it was a huge deal but now i think like i don't know what it is with that right and i always go with those during off times too i'm never going when it's busy but um it never has a line and i'm always on express too. And I'm always on it in two seconds. Wow.

But I mean, you know, I've done all these attractions so many times that I'm like now looking to see just how they work. Yeah. You know, that's what I wanted to do for so long as I wanted to be like behind the scenes with the roller coasters and stuff.

Oh, sure. She couldn't deny she was a performer. So when, when twister closed did you make a point to go down and go on it one more time it wasn't like that it was just like um i knew it wasn't long for the world like it just seemed like out of everything that was there like that would be the one on its way out yeah i mean say that was one of the layers and there was the disaster and i was like it's gonna be one of

these it'll probably be both um because i just i yeah even now to this day i don't see them doing anything with et i mean i think it'll stay i think it'll still be there might be say i think it's in luckily it's in an odd enough zone and if it were near more open land maybe it would go yeah i think it's here to stay unless they unless they feel the need to still got that weird executive producer credit on the parks i think he has to die and then that thing's up for grabs as soon as that's the first thing that happens he dies well no i guess the mecca says that i too but back to the future gets remade as soon as he's dead et gets torn down and et the movie though gets remade it's like opening up the prince vault as soon as he's gone old is that 1982 right the movie yeah wow fuck that's an old movie yeah and it's not too relevant to kids these days so it is it is like in the kids zone technically

it's the only piece of history universal really has now it's over 30 years old yeah so like disney has all the rides that have been there forever but that's the only ride really it's their peter pan's flight literally because it's they're flying too one thing that's interesting me about twister is i think it was like the last new thing to open at universal where it's like oh this is the the classic universal style it's half ride the movie and then half here's how we made the movie yeah because it's there is a lot before the main room of like this is how we did it yeah no i mean the day we started shooting tornadoes uh dropped in tornado alley right by us and all that they've just they just don't do that anymore yeah i mean not even like i guess disaster too was the last thing where it was like let's take you behind the scenes and take

audience volunteers the whole thing that was a latter day edition in that genre um also armageddon and disney paris which was intended to be reproduced in the other parks but it wasn't like a big enough hit and by the time they got around to it disney wasn't spending money in the studios parks so they never really but like it's a it's a it's the same you go from room to it's a rooms of peril you uh an actor from the movie in this case michael clark duncan talks to really yeah yeah also r.i.p just like paxton and the uh but he's dubbed into french so it's a video of michael clark duncan who's no longer of this world and the only way to experience this video

is dubbed. Michael Clark Duncan the fiance of Omarosa Manigault Starworth. Oh right. Never forget. That's right. I never knew it to be him. When he passed away they were engaged to be married. At the moment? Wait, where was she in her trajectory?

Between the Apprentice and the White House baby. Wild. engaged to be married at the moment wait when where was she in her trajectory between the apprentice and the white house baby wild in the golden valley between the two peaks of our culture it's the truth oh my god um i'm gonna i'm gonna talk about another sort of a transitional thing and an important piece of twister's story and i think this what i'm about to say is going to blow both of your minds but not mike's because i told you this a long time ago do you know where i'm going with this no i can't remember okay i had to look up this was i had to go back into an old email to figure out when i even did this this when i found this this was in 2015 when the podcast was just a just a glimmer in our eyes i didn't even really know

jason that well so you don't you don't know any of this unless you heard it on the on the source material the the jim hill podcast um uh jim hill is a uh is a theme park podcaster yeah you've you've you said you've checked out yeah i've heard i know of jim hill yeah uh uh so when the jimmy fallon ride opened uh he did an episode talking about the history of it and the development of it and it's in the space that was twister ride it out before uh and he claims on his podcast that there was the original pitch of the jimmy fallon ride was that one morning unannounced guests would walk into Universal Florida, and they'd go to the Twister attraction,

but the sign, the display that you love so much wouldn't be there, and in fact, it'd be a bed sheet, spray-painted on it, in frat boy style, the Jimmy Fallon attraction. I'm quoting Jim as much as possible, because I'm going off of his details. And then you go in and then you go into the queue and it would just be the queue of Twister.

And now you're confused. Is this was that a mistake? Did did a Twister blow that bed sheet onto the facade of the ride? But no, in fact, that you go in and you see the familiar two monitors that you know bill and helen are going to be on but in the middle a third monitor and when the pre-show starts it's the same as you know it but suddenly static oh hello coming in and it's jimmy fallon and he's hijacking the famous twister attraction. Oh, God. I'm so happy this did not happen. Also, how the fuck would it happen?

I don't know. There's a couple things going on here. Yeah, too much. For the listeners, there's a comedy term called hat on a hat. And that's where you have a weird thing in a sketch or a scene. And then you add another weird thing. And it feels uneasy because it's like trying to wear two hats at once it just doesn't work it doesn't make sense uh uh but if you pull it off

incredible you'd be applauded forever for wearing two hats um but so according to jim he'd interrupt and do whatever he was going to do and that bill and helen would go what the hell this is our attraction but how would that happen so they would have to get this is insane it's fake now and now he's delegitimized for me forever okay yeah yeah that's a theory i have but i think it's possible look i don't want to jim could listen to this i what he follows us on twitter he may that you know i'd like to talk to jim for a myriad of reasons but I feel like I could spend an hour going through point by point this supposed attraction that he claims was leaked to him by a Universal employee. But let me get to the end of it, which is you get, it's still Meg's house. Yeah.

And then, but then you get into the final room and just, and I'm just going off a pure gym uh you in the final room it's still the drive-in and everything in the gas station but you see jimmy uh taking the effects and props and hammering together this attraction what does that mean a robot of jimmy a hologram of jimmy and where's questlove where's questlove and the roots He's using his drumsticks to bring the attraction together. And time and magic and effort and nonsense. For what effect? For a thing that would communicate to you, because you've been on Twister 20 times. But Twister is not,

it's not like the moment in the Haunted Mansion holiday where the familiar tone and the elevator, you know, the room starts stretching, but it gets taken over hijacked by Jack Skellington this is not that the Haunted Mansion is iconic and Twister I'm sorry to say is not and then it

begins well I'm not then I'm actually not sure what it is when did he post his April 1st wait a minute it's a classic hill prank oh what if I go back and that was the case? I'll be truly humiliated. I mean, nothing about this is believable.

Not for a second. But none of the rest of the episode is a prank. I'll be so, oh God, I'll be upset if you look it up and it's an April Fool's Day prank. Can we, now I want to, because I know, I remember him doing interviews about this when it was being converted. Universal creative member and former Disney Imagineer Jason Sorrell. I remember him doing interviews about this when it was being converted Universal Creative member and former Disney Imagineer Jason Sorrell did a lot of

development I think transitioning into the Fallon ride and I want to double check with him like was this your was this a blue Scott? Was this on the table? Are we on the way of finding this out? I mean I don't know him but I'm saying if we get a chance if we can email if we could if you give it an email address if we get him on the show ever i mean this is question number one we know you worked on spider-man and you worked on

all these amazing rides uh question about the jimmy fallon uh takes over twister i just want to know if this was what does it mean? It's possible that someone in a break room was talking about this as a joke. But there's no way this was actually pitched and set to happen. There's literally no way. I have one more step of it and this here is really where

as Jim himself says. You listened to this in 2015? Yeah, I believe so. When did the ride open? Do we know? 2016? Yeah, I'm not totally sure sounds right i think that's right same as volcano bay right didn't it open at the volcano bay open last year 2017 i think it might have been 2017 and it may yeah maybe it was 2017 the final claim in here is that he says that oh my god i can't that anyone would buy this for a second every night while taping the tonight show every yes i've heard this as well that jimmy would go live and do talk to only the audience in the twister this is the most garbage rumor look and i i get so we get so much info from

jim and a lot of a lot of fun listening To Jim but if you believed This notion for a second maybe Jim heard this info on April First maybe that's what happened Final step of this he would An example of what he might say to the Audience on broadcast

Television on NBC he would say Who's in my attraction are You enjoying it say yes don't make me throw a cow at you like why would he have to do that every day constantly how many more he has to every how many tonight shows have there been with him three thousand he would talk to the twister audience and make jokes about cows and dorothy's every single night i doubt it well i do too we gotta get jim on jim gotta have this rumor give us a name thing to do um yeah jim reveal your sources jim we need the sources we need the sources okay too bad it throws a lot of

other potential stories into question i know maybe he doesn't need to be on the show if he comes much like matt and tells us a bunch of fun rumors before the show that's great that's fine yeah i think everything i've said is gonna be true i i believe you well and you know nothing is does jim a supposed many decades theme park insider really want to go up against you matt well listen uh i wouldn't want to challenge him in his like life's work arena because how embarrassing for him would that be i'm excited for fx's feud matt versus jim and susan sarandon and jessica lang play us yeah yeah absolutely who's me i probably probably jessica yeah i think so yeah yeah sarandon's a gym all the way so a thing i i mentioned this before the

show and you said to save it uh to go all the way back to the beginning of the twister ride the queue before you even enter the building uh it's god you didn't know about the fake radio station that plays in the queue 91.1 wndy uh wndy hosted by mike and jessica the storm chasers of rock and roll yes i remember that oh my gosh it's got like some fake rock music or some old honky-tonk music and and they're like shock jocks but they keep throwing to meteorologists because there are actual tornadoes happening yeah and despite the fact that their name are storm chasers of rock and roll jessica says at one point something along the lines of wait so these people drive towards the storm like she does not understand oh my gosh the storm chamber story building and and it's there you know you never hear from the the staff of 91.1 wndy again in the rest of the ride but it is a very confused

and it also it didn't seem like it had that long of a loop and so you know if you were there in that outdoor line at the height of the summer you probably heard the storm chaser thing and then at the very end of that at the ride and when you're waiting to go in the door that's when you hear bill paxton do the classic like expecting mothers experiencing twister and he said i'm bill pax he says bill paxton again he says his name i'm bill paxton enjoy your day he says well it's kind of like what we say but it's a little off he says uh i'm i'm bill paxton thank you for surviving Twister. Oh, yeah. Surviving Twister. I miss that, too.

I miss everything about it, to be honest with you. So, do you have anything else before we get to our wrap-up segment? the director of the ride. The director of the footage of the ride.

Oh, who is that? Why, it's Cecil D. Magpuri, a man who directed multiple 3D movies. You you know 3d movies that you probably likely shown it uh in philadelphia we had the franklin institute like science museums and stuff also this was his first like big thing directed the uh footage for the rides for the avengers ride the hulk ride the adventure time ride and the gumball ride at

the united arab emirates park img worlds of adventure which i think we've talked about before yeah he directed all of those and those are i think we said are all screens so this is a titan of theme park screen based rides basically what you're saying yes a titan in the united arab emirates sure and also like i yeah i think those were his main other like theme park things i just hope the djs from wndy have found work

elsewhere in the crowded radio game probably just got serious you know serious but now they're untied like they can say whatever they want oh good yeah they have a podcast now. You know they do. W-N-T-Y,

uncensored. Yeah, podcast one. They picked, they got that, they're there with Stone Cold. All the professional wrestlers.

All the professional wrestlers. Podcast. Yeah. So, yeah. To wrap up, we always, we judge the ride.

Now, of course, we say, would we want this ride to be kept perfectly as if it were still around and exactly how it was when it was over would you want it to be perfectly the same do you have any ideas to plus it up or i i know you're not going to say this but would you want to burn it down in a mysterious fire for insurance money yeah no not the latter i would say um it'd be very interesting to see what they would do with something like this now.

Obviously, they've moved on from this kind of attraction, though I do wonder what it could be like with the budget they could provide it now, like what they could do with a ride exactly the same, like what kind of a real kind of twister they could make. I would hope that they wouldn't just slap 3D goggles on all of us and make us watch a screen and then have like it be a vr situation i really like the practical effects but um yeah i would i would like to say i would like to see it heightened um obviously it will never come back but um you know part of me does

wish it was still there but especially because it wasn't improved on in my opinion yeah um i don't care about the jimmy fallon ride i don't think it's that good i think it's literally the simpsons and it's universe that's my thing is it's universal trickery smells a lot of the same and also you know it's just so obviously we have this ip and we're gonna do it i really don't like the attraction and so i wish it was the same um but yeah that's my vote i would say if it were my decision tear down the jimmy fallon attraction and put twist your rack what a day how good would you feel if you went the next time you went there it was going in reverse it was all a dream yeah i feel freaking fantastic they were tearing down the word comcast from the top that's one of the funniest things about that ride like comcast and just like the add the names of the parent companies i went on it with actually a

girl who writes at snl um and um it was like so weird because she was seeing a reconstructed where she yeah and it was like oh my god i think she liked it but um it was just very weird it was like you we walk past this all the time in new y. It's like such a famous, iconic New York thing. And I guess in that way, it does fit in, finally, in the New York section of the park. That is true. Yeah. Because there was just Oklahoma in the middle of nowhere.

Right. But, you know, I prefer Twister. Sure. Yeah. I mean, my thing is, like, if it was still there, I feel like there's a lot of the tricks you've seen in all these different stunt shows. You've seen this in Lights, Motor, Action, or you've seen very similar fire effects,

all the whatever. I feel like it would have been better if it was mostly like in Aunt Meg's house. I feel like if you could just strap yourself in with that leather belt, like make the chairs look like they're pipes connected to leather belts somehow. I don know how they would do it seat belt that's the seat belt and then maybe the house kind of goes on like a fun wizard of oz style ride and in the background we see all the fun movie theater and the cow and stuff and use practical effects but then you get a little bit more of like an intense experience that's my plus it up idea. That's blue skying, of course. We know that this is never happening. I just want Bill Paxton to just tell the history of Aunt Meg's house.

The foundation was laid in 1936. The fact that thousands aren't seeing him perform every day is a loss. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Watch it on YouTube instead. You just want a longer paxton intro video it's already like nine minutes long and now you want another 10 minutes yeah and i don't want it to be about storms and stuff i just want dry information

uh um is that did that end up being my plus it up i guess it does yeah that would be why i mean i though really what mine is you know uh it's obviously get get jimmy in there oh yeah like don't yeah don't make him throw a cow at me i want i want the mid then we're both happy right yes you still get twister but i get i get fallon simulcasting from new york every night. Jason, what do you think? I think, you know, a big loss that we haven't mentioned is that when this ride closed and then a short while later, Backdraft closed. Or no, I guess it was the other way around.

Backdraft closed first, this closed next. We lost that ride style of like, you know, the standing auditorium with the drop and you're watching special effects. And, you know, Matt, this isn't a classic yet but i think it's on track to be a modern classic i think we rebuild that kind of twister standing auditorium and we put in a new themed attraction they are themed after what is sure to be the hit of the summer i think we all know what i'm talking about i'm talking the bag baby i'm talking you're standing on those platforms you're surrounded 360 you're in that underground water tube this is going to be a hit with the

audiences in asia because the movie is clearly shot for a chinese audience as well as an American audience due to all the landmarks. I think you're getting a tour of the sea lab and then the Meg shows up. I kind of love it. Really? It's good. I mean, we have to all agree.

It's good. It's good. It's good. Statham, I mean, Statham's like, when we first encountered, I can't really do a British accent. No, that's not good Statham at all. But Statham, if we can get Statham's like, when we first encountered them, I can't really do a British accent. But Statham, if we can get Statham into the Paxton style of Q, if we can get him in a Paxton-like role.

They call the Meg the finger of God. I call a lot of stuff finger of God. I don't know about you. Pancakes I had this morning, fingers of God. When I saw the movie, I got confused that it was an Aunt Meg spinoff movie, but it was not. We needed that. Lois Smith has been 70 for 30

years. She's still around. She's still around. Let's get that Aunt Meg movie that we've all been dying. She was in True Blood. She looked the same. She's great. She's a wonderful actress. All right. Well, Matt Rudders, you've survived Podcast the Ride. God bless you. What a thrill it was. Thank you for surviving Podcast

The Ride. Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Kitter. Do you have anything to plug? Do you have any more rumors for us on your way out? Do I have any more rumors? You know what? You'd have to come to listen to my podcast to hear the rest of my shit. That's a good transition. On on the forever dog podcast network i co-hosted with my good friend bone yang and we have a very

nice time all right great yeah you've told some disney stories on oh yeah oh yeah i i there was a period of time where i was like talking about it every episode and people were like this is a lot about that and i was like come do it here anytime you want we'll do every time in town i'm swinging back and um please do yes open invitation wow swinging back maybe that means i'll come talk about spider-man oh it hasn't been done it hasn't been done it hasn't been done and if you are the rumors of the new spider-man ride possibly coming in a few years yeah we can talk about it off air wow honestly the universal disney switch over of the marvel stuff is something i'm fascinated by yeah it seems great it's complicated we'll see um yeah and as far as us you know you can follow podcasts right on twitter on instagram we have a facebook group rate and review us on itunes or apple podcast whatever i never remember what it's called uh yeah jump on there

and call us the podcast of god yeah and also oh and thank you for creating scott's new nickname uh no launch queen no no launch queen yeah i love that that is good that'll be a shirt probably i guess a uh if a hashtag of such appears but you know it's on me to shake loose the name no launch queen. You can get rid of it by hashtag no launch queen. Well this is fair. I will be draped with this label like a

scarlet A. Yeah you call no launch queen the hashtag of God and at a certain point you start to think it's got a mind of its own. You gotta shake it loose. There's only one way. You gotta launch. Go on a launch. I'm Bill Paxton. Thank you for listening. Bye bye.