Podcast: The Ride - Unlocked: Barbie Birthday Party at Epcot '94 with Caroline Anderson

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

Enjoy this sample of P:TR - The Second Gate. Find even more Second Gate episodes at Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Caroline Anderson (Corporate, This Fool, personal trainer) joins us to discuss the Barbie show that was in World Showcase from 1994-1995. And more specifically the 1¢ VHS tape about the show you could send away for. Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 Welcome to the magical world of Podcast the Ride, The Second Gate. This Barbie loves pink, mainly in rosé form. I'm Scott Gairdner, joined by this Barbie, who shares his dream house with 900 other action figures. I'm Mike Carlson.

That's right, I'm here, and this Barbie loves sharing his space with other little friends. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. This Barbie has a very crowded dream house. And this Barbie also loves pink,

but he doesn't give a shit if it's in grapefruit. Jason Sheridan. I was wondering what the very specific thing for me was going to be. We have a history with a pink fruit. Hey, folks.

Greta Gerwig's highly anticipated Barbie hits theaters this week and people are excited for this. It's going to do great, I'm sure, but the true heads know that there is already a primary piece of barbie media

out there it is a vhs tape called barbie birthday party at walt disney world f cod 94 and that's what we're here to talk about uh a long-awaited topic as anticipated in the in the microcosm of podcast the ride listeners maybe this is the Greta Gerwig Barbie. Yeah. I think that's right. I was going to say, I'm excited for a new Noah Baumbach movie, but I'm afraid I'll wedgie myself if I say that, you know?

As if you don't wedgie yourself once a Podcast the Ride episode in some way. I do, yeah, yeah. We all do. Keep yourself humble. The squid and the whale has some amazing performance it just like just pulling it over my head just pulling my own underwear over my head it's like come on man you watching squid in the whale i haven't watched in a long time okay but

when it came out i remember really enjoying it you call it barbie i call it squid in the whale too another squid and another whale. But yes, Barbie birthday party. And we are so excited to talk about this with a verified super fan of this video and a first-time guest, a writer for This Fool on Hulu and corporate. This Barbie's name is Caroline Anderson. Hi, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited. We are thrilled about this. Really excited you could do this.

And this also, just really quick, a couple people to thank for putting this together. We were being fools. I say this fool to show you where, Tom, but these fools forgot that, you know, we were busy with our Las Vegas schedule and we were ignoring this Barbie timing, this once-in-a-lifetime Barbie timing.

And thankfully, Amanda Hasaka alerted us to what we were ignoring with the tweet, If Podcast The Ride doesn't do a Barbie Epcot episode on the day Barbie comes out, what are we doing here? Including a clip that completely spelled out the point and i realized amanda is is correct we have neglected this because we've we've talked about doing this thing uh before but we wanted to do it with a with a super fan that was the only way this was going to work and for some reason it occurred to me to ask griffin newman and griffin newman spit

out the answer immediately caroline anderson so thank you griffin and i'm i'm just curious to know how does he know that how how deep does this go yeah can you pull us into your affection for barbie birthday party yeah i mean this i was i grew up with tapes i had 15 tapes and those tapes were just my everything your entire world was an inside kid who didn't have cable and I didn't, we didn't have money. So I had the tapes that my aunt video recorded and gave to us. And so one of those tapes, it's like the super Mario brothers movie mixed nuts, the Steve Martin,

Nora Everett movie. Like it's a real hodgepodge, Miss Austin powers that was recorded off of TV. So it has that warp effect and it's a real hodgepodge um uh miss uh austin powers that was recorded off of tv so it has that warp effect and it's as edits uh oh oh and like probably like dub overs of profanities there's no profanity in that movie what are you talking about um oh yeah there probably is but but does it no there's a lot there's a penis jokes all the time which for tv they would be like that's not my bag like that whole scene is just he gets his bag it is his bag they don't show he just successfully gets all his old items do i make you what was it do i make you interested baby do i make you happy baby

you ever pitch on that joke oh that's all right you don't have to yeah i'm gonna think i'll come back i'll edit it in later really cumbersome edit yeah yeah yeah so one of these vhs tapes was this barbie uh epcot birthday in my world it is connected to the barbie dance workout 92 and for a lot of people i know this is because i will bring it up with people a lot of was that a part of your life uh and for a lot of people it is an associated thing i don't know if there was a two for one special at the toys r us or anything but uh very connected uh and so yeah it was just one of the only things that i watched and i probably watched it once a week for 10 years and so it is very much

a part of my life and like especially with barbie being in the the cultural like to me that we should all be talking about this all the time i went to the barbie uh you know installation in santa monica the barbie museum or whatever oh right and there was just nothing about it i couldn't believe no one was talking about it this is such an important piece of uh history uh well yeah it's like okay because you had other like barbie is interesting that there hasn't been here with this this movie in 2023 this is the barbie movie and it's kind of weird that there hasn't even been any like there wasn't some low budget attempt at this in the 90s and there probably were various

i know that there's kind of like you know some like princess adventure vhs and the end you just mentioned this dance workout one which i didn't know but it really like i guess it makes this epcot video and any others around this time genuinely the definitive barbie media for a while yeah well and i i also know from listening to an interview with Beth, who was the Barbie for the Epcot show, that Mattel and Disney had a really hard time getting on the same page, and there was a lot of rewrites. So I think Mattel takes this property very, very seriously.

So it's challenging. Wow. It came along at a very interesting time, like as a part of like Epcot 94 and later Epcot 95, they say in the one video of the show. And it does seem like at the time they were like, we got to get these kids interested in Epcot. What are they like Barbie and video games?

All right, do it. So they put the Barbie show in World Showcase and they just put rows and rows of Sega testers in the brand new interventions. Yeah. And it worked, yeah. Boys, girls, check. Yeah.

Yeah, boys like video games, girls like Barbie, right? That's the gender binary? Yeah. Can I ask, as far as the toys and Barbies? Couldn't give less of a shit. Wow, interesting. I was not a Barbiebie person yeah that's interesting i liked it like a like a plush elephant like i loved just like an animal a photorealistic

plush animal um i think i owned a handful i know i had a vet barbie at a certain point because she came with little plush animals uh but yeah uh her is a is a concept you know i'm much more uh like i love malibu stacy i love all of the you know the fake versions but um yeah i don't know that i have like a particular affinity for the doll i like a show i love that as somebody who i talk a lot about for a long time well look still um Star Wars is fine, but Star Tours is the definitive canon for me. And truly, I went on Star Tours and was obsessed with Star Tours years before I even watched the Star Wars movies.

So I like a good pop cultural reroute, a good out of order. Yeah, one of the tapes that I loved as a child was Troll Radio Singalong. I don't know if anyone's familiar, but it's trolleys, little trolls. reroute a good out of order yeah i one of the tapes that i loved as a child was troll radio sing-along i don't know if anyone's familiar but it's you know it's trollies you know little trolls and they sing sort of trollized versions of like um do i diddy diddy dumb diddy do but then when they started making trolls movies uh with you know like can't stop the feeling i was like but they love like old, but they love oldies.

The trolls sing oldies. That doesn't fit in the canon. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That actually, that reminds me, I, on the troll subject, I watched, there's this video, Barbie Birthday Party, and I looked up the credits of the writer and director,

and the credits are one other Barbie video called Barbie Fashion Secrets and this is a good video I thought about bringing in some some clips but it's so visual if you can imagine because this is a video where they go to like the headquarters and they talk to who designs Barbie's clothes oh yeah yeah does the hair and who so I mean it's I just recommend watching the entire thing but it's from around the same time wraparounds of like a stop motion barbie so it has that in common but the highlight of it is a barbie troll crossover where barbie so worthy gasp is that absolutely it's the correct gasp because it's a barbie that comes with trolls that are her size so it's like so it would be a troll to her so it's a little puff of hair that she

can play with but also put into her own hair so she can use colorful troll hair as like touch-ups and extensions of herself. Did she have a little gem in her belly button? Ooh I don't think they went all the way.

Either it was before the existence of the treasure trolls, or they were like, we got a lot going already. We're going to break the bank if we also put a... Those are real gems. We actually mined those. I feel like with Barbie, just looking around at all the different Barbie stuff, because obviously Barbie's been around for decades, there's so much like i'd like to call a shot for the next five years of

just discussing barbie's like side characters because when you look through the list it's nuts of characters that have been disputed this i did this too well i started as we were watching uh uh jane did i was like she didn't know mitch i was like come on it's mitch well you gotta know and i started reading about like oh mitch has a very complicated history of like being on sale she's been siblings and she's been friends yes and there's yeah that's what i want to track one of these days alan in the 90s and then they have kids not Alan I'm just learning now that Midge exists and now you're telling me Midge is

complicated Midge is so complicated Midge is really complicated I'm sorry you continue we're both excited to say names Midge watching the video too we got very excited she was like oh I didn't know this was like

set up like a mary kate and ashley video like not the movies like not the a to b uh like three act movie but the like kind of interactive like yeah pizza p-i-z-z-a kind of videos there's just so much here and i know we can't do it but like skipper is barbie's kid sister yes yeah and skipper has her own series of friends of it's on wikipedia it just says friends of the family so skipper had a friend named scooter ricky fluff tiff ginger and these were like discontinued characters that existed from like scooter was was uh active from 1965 to 1968 and then 1975 to 1976. So they would like bring these dolls in and out of production. But there's so much stuff like the Generation Girls.

I don't know what that is. The Rockers and Sensations, which is like a Barbie, Josie and the Pussycats style band, I think as well. Yes, Barbie and the Rockers was a Jim and the Holograms eras era thing i think yeah so yeah there's just so much stuff to do not to skip to the show but uh when the opening of the actual show itself uh which you can watch on youtube the like mc introduces all of these characters to just the weakest applause he's like who else gonna be here mid jesse well he also before that like has a little display where he puts down the wall and it's like all the dolls and i feel like the display of dolls maybe gets more applause than the performers than some 18 year old yeah Jason, you forgot to mention Alan's last name, Alan Sherwood. Oh,

sorry. You can buy a doll that's named Alan Sherwood? Alan Sherwood, who started out as Ken's buddy and then he was paired with the Midge doll from the beginning

or was, excuse me, it was paired and then in 1991 a line of dolls was created depicting a wedding for Alan and Midge.

Later, a family themed line of dolls much like the earlier Hart family, had the two characters raising a family. So that's what Alan Sherwood was all about. Was it Skipper who had the baby and it was a controversy?

I think so. Or was that a joke? That was Midge. There's an auto-fill-in right now. Midge, Barbie, pregnant. Controversy. So there we go. In the movie, I think,

the Midge character is pregnant. Alan is, Michael Cera we go in the movie i think the main characters are pregnant alan is uh michael cera is alan in the movie yes michael cera is alan oh so they they're really deep into this canon yeah yeah so i'm interested to see what characters they use and um there's no way they can use all the characters on the wikipedia though because it's it's a pretty big cast yes yeah it is yeah yeah does that a lot in there. Yeah, yeah. Does that make you, are you then excited for the movie or worried that it will not live up to the vibe of Barbie birthday party?

I'm, great question. I think there's going to be a lot less screaming and yelling, which is going to be hard. Probably less like sped up slurping of spaghetti to sort of an off-brand Tarantella. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the cell phones will probably be better. And it does, Will Ferrell's in it,

so you're going to get yelling, but that's not the same as the yelling of Lisa and Stephanie. Yes. It's a distinctly different tone of yelling. Yeah. Well, let's talk about this tape a little bit and the show, too. I know it sounds like you guys thought to watch the entire thing, like full performances of the thing. So fill in gaps when we get to the the show

part yeah um but kind of the the dry history here i mean jason you said some of it there was already there was a disney mattel relationship mattel was sponsoring it's a small world and i think some other stuff and there's a mattel store somewhere um so that relationship was there already and they wanted to do a lot for barbie's big birthday 35 i mean they just come from disneyland's 35th birthday which they was oddly the biggest blowout birthday in disneyland history so i guess that was a big everybody's just looking for for anything if they're 35 close enough let's do a bunch of barbie crap um so barbie's gonna be 35 uh so thus and then they're triangulating okay epcot's not doing the best right now and maybe is not well liked among kids regarded as boring among

kids if you can believe that if you could possibly imagine the dumb children including us who felt this way at the time um so let's put barbie in there uh use the international aspect of barbie of of we got the world showcase thing in epcot so barbie will go around the world and wear different outfits mainly and yeah make friends i guess quote i'll go like it's more about the clothes gonna be more about the clothes yeah um and and the big overlay of this was that uh barbie is the ambassador of friendship in epcot for 94 that is the big the big theme and who better to i don't know if they ever renewed the ambassador of friendship program and named any others i think it was richard nixon up until 1993 and then then Barbie took over from him. Yeah, post-presidency. They had different philosophies

regarding friendship and how friendly to be. The ambassador of friendship. He announced that in the contemporary. The ambassador of friendship can, you know, drop a few bombs. Why not? If the ambassador of friendship does it,

it's not illegal. Barbie was gonna run for president, but then she dropped out so that the president could win. And then she was promised the ambassadorship spot. It was all really messy. Oh, sure. Yeah. Backroom deal.

Yeah. She had a talking to. She was communicating with the White House plumbers. The character is Justin Theroux. What do you hear? Some play. So you had a couple of aspects to this, and the main one being the big show,

The Magical World of Barbie, a show that ran from January 94 to May 1995. And it is a show, of course, Barbie and Ken are there. This we know. But then there is this expanded lineup it's not everyone in the wikipedia but you do have okay we got skipper we got pj we got todd we got brad we got midge we got stacy and we got jazzy now i don't know one of these names jazzy was the most interesting to me i learned that jazzy had been discontinued jazzy now i don't know one of these names jazzy was the most interesting to me i learned that jazzy had been discontinued jazzy was a cool teen cousin yeah who was discontinued in 92 so actually it was a big return too cool jazzy be cool we're not that cool um does anyone have

any memories associated with any skipper we know but um does anything okay is there anything in your rorschach test for pj todd brad or stacy uh sorry or does anybody else i don't don't jump in all at once in the same way that you talked about how you were lectured like about mary martin uh and the peter pan's by your mother uh i was also like kind of lectured about midge and skipper and i do believe pj was in the mix early on because i think my mom had some old barbies and you say lecture to be like this is something you my son in the 90s need to know about i needed to know about mary martin and sandy duncan all the great peter pan's my mom said the words mary martin last week too i forget

what context it was but she said you know mary martin and she was talking about something from the 70s uh so but she must be proud that we're probably we might be the podcast where mary martin comes up the most yeah if she paid attention to this show when she's listening to it she would definitely be proud of that distracted by the swears or just distracted by the way my voice sounds how i enunciate is sort of what she's focused on versus the quality of the show or funny or informative. But ever since the Martin cast went on hiatus, she's happier carrying the torch. Yeah, the Martin from the... The Mary Martin.

Oh, I thought you meant Martin, the sitcom from the 90s. Oh, no. I mean, there's probably one of those. Someone's probably going episode by episode through Martin. So, yeah. So, I heard these names, and I can't remember which dolls my mom had or still has, maybe. But I knew the basic characters because of that. I see. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. But I guess, I mean, we're finding that maybe there's not as much stock as they think. And everybody's going to be there. Brad. Yeah. I don't know brad brad feels like newer i can go back to the list and see when brad was introduced because i like uh uh so so yeah all the side characters barbie and ken yeah were obviously had the staying power but i feel like they didn't, other characters maybe didn't ever resonate.

Just in doll form, I guess, really. I feel like the vehicles and the house, like the dream house is so much more iconic than poor Midge. Well, yeah, that's true. Well, it's all, I mean, I feel like it's places and clothes, you know? That's what you want in a Barbie experience. And I've said this before on the show i liked the barbie vehicles but i was you know it was pink and i was told that was not for boys so i would lie and say my sister wanted it my sister was one and i would

circle stuff in the catalog like the barbie camper because i was obsessed with the idea of like driving your house and i would say to my mom well Katie wants uh the Barbie camper my mom like I thought I was pulling a fast one at age four because I knew that this was for girls so why would so beautiful yeah so we didn't get to resort to the kids of that era but guess what now you're a grown-up with autonomy you I hope that after this record you go pick one up for yourself i don't have the room because all the boy toys i have in my office uh are taking up too much space do you have four boy toys that could sit in the car oh yeah it might clear up a space scale wise barbie is a doll so i'm trying to think do I have any... The closest thing I have is

my first contact Lieutenant Commander Data doll that's standing on my desk right now. So he probably could fit in the camper or the car. Well, and I'm sure you guys all know this, but canonically, Geordie LaForge and Vet Barbie are a

couple on account of my brother had a Geordie LaForge and I had vet Barbie. So that's, that happened in your house. So it's Dan. I'll edit the least expected. Edit the Wikipedia real quick to make sure that is reflected in there. So,

you know what caught my eye? I was at, I don't, when this comes out, I don't remember if this thing will be done or not, but they're in currently Burbank has this Disneyland auction gallery, and I went earlier today, and just in the, like, store area, they had Disney Fun Barbies, which I imagine were, they were, no price was listed,

so I was like, I bet this is insanely marked up. But this is, I forget if this was part of the same partnership or era but they're pretty good i mean i i feel like you know what as i'm looking at it i think maybe my sister had one of these because it's she's in mouse ears and then in a very like gloria estefan paul abdul kind of ensemble which is great like me yellow that is so neon that it's almost green and then but i think i had this i think i took the mickey mouse balloon from this set because i was a theme park kid oh yeah if i just abscond with this from disney fun barbie will my sister notice um knowing her she probably did where's my balloon have you ever gotten lost on doll youtube where people like kind of wash the makeup off of like

ugly barbie dolls basically and take their hair out and like replant better higher quality hair and do better paints on them whoa there's a lot of youtube channels i feel like a lot of them are like soviet uh uh it's just so uh i'm a k-pop fan it'll'll not come up again, I promise. But we have the, you know, Mattel made some pretty awful BTS Barbies six or seven years ago. And so there's a lot of people making them be better, like taking the existing molds and drawing them better, putting better in them.

Wow, that's a good idea. There are YouTube channels that I watch that sound like what you've described for different things, but now I will watch what you're talking about as well so yeah there's so many toy modification like channels yes there is a i'm in a lot of toy facebook groups uh uh and you get i'm in i we need to do another uh we did cabbage patch doll episode about the baby land general i'm in a cabbage patch doll facebook group that is terrifying people are just offering up the scariest looking dolls for a lot like a lot of money or asking for help about

how to repair the dolls and the dolls will call they're all haunted in some way but then there's other other like sites or excuse me other groups that will somebody will be like customizing figures which people do and some people are really good at it. And there's this one guy, God bless him, he is the shittiest figure customizer, and he posts these things that look like a five-year-old did them. And he goes,

so how am I doing? I'm just starting out. And some people are really nice. And then there'll be one guy, looks like shit. And you just thumbs up that comment. Subtle suggestion that way. But I love the idea like of like,

what's the, what's the car term when you go back and modding or something? Yeah. Like at one point in time it was pimping. I don't know if it is. Pimping my Barbie. That sounds wrong. That sounds like the wrong phrase.

I just, i discovered the dog grooming uh youtube chat like people cutting dogs said like dog groomers and stuff so it's like what you're saying and it's kind of like i mean that and then the slot machine influencers like well you talk about really addictive there's even more There are more and more slot. Like now there are some casinos in Vegas that have like, and this part of the casino is the Brian Christopher slot. Like the slot machine guy who lost $300,000 gambling last year. And he can write it off because that's his job. Yeah, pretty good.

Sounds like you should do that. That's it. If this was the beginning of that jason then becomes one i mean i can i love them and then he became do you do the i i can do what i haven't seen represented which is just people silently playing because so often people are like oh come on almost got it oh that's the bonus oh i just needed one more like they're narrating what's happening it's like no i just want to hear the effects and the music oh you don't want to hear the commentary yeah yeah um what a

what a pickiness i don't want to hear the noises the sound effects the pleasing noises like i'm there well we should there's got to be a loop that you can just fall asleep to of casino noises oh probably yeah you know asmr i'm sure yeah yeah oh yeah like slowly like pulling the lever and stuff that's probably the code yeah casino asmr is probably the thing to look for yeah putting the coin in slowly hitting the button jason right jason's right asleep i also on the asmr channel this is you describing the things oh Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's calmer than what you're going to. There's a card. Do you have any Barbie anything at the point, like on a display or in an office or anything?

I have Jimin from BTS Barbie. Okay. I have a Riverdale Barbie that was a Christmas present. Oh, okay. Do you remember a couple of years back when they're like, we're introducing a fat Barbie? Do you remember this? I don't. So they were like, we're introducing a fat Barbie. Do you remember this? I don't. So they were like,

we have a problem with, you know, diversity. So we're going to introduce like short, tall, fat, and maybe one other body type. She's like a four.

She's like not a fat Barbie at all. But I think someone was excited for me. There would finally be some fat Barbie. So she's somewhere in my home. You would not see her and go oh fat barbie you would go that's that barbie doesn't look like slightly wider hips barbie is what i'm seeing but it is barbie it's not a different character it is the woman barb it's barbara yeah so barbara millicent was her middle name i believe millicent oh i don't know sorry this is the the creator the no barbie herself barbara herself her what her name is barbara millicent i forget her last name

but i did never heard to me that her name is barbara oh yeah yeah barbara barbie millicent roberts barbara roberts the doll alan sherwood the doll no yes you your sister grew up playing barbara and alan toys mommy mommy i want a barbara roberts toy roberts and alice millicent roberts uh uh that's it would they like all the barbies obviously would like they keep the hair the same color or the height like it was just they were just just taking Barbie and making different versions. There's height difference. They're new characters seemingly from what I'm looking at.

But they are not named. They are not given like, you know. Oh really? Well, that's not good. Yeah. That's weird. They just are all still Barbie. Okay.

Names would probably be. A little humanizing perhaps. Yeah, that would be good. An easy way to humanize. Yeah. Oh wait, yeah. Wait, their name, their names are petite, tall, curvy, and original.

I am original. They're like, that's crazy. So, interesting. Want to feel empowered? Go buy the word that people might describe you by. Use it as your name. Okay. Wow. I have another question about your experience with this this tape and that like i don't know i don't know in what year you're actually watching it but so i'm curious if um you know this show ran for like a year and a half it

wasn't the longest amount of time but you but were you either aware that maybe you could go and see it or were you did were you aware that it was in the past and you missed your opportunity and you couldn't live in the tape and is that upsetting um great question it definitely did not work as marketing if that was the job it was just like oh the tape that i'm gonna watch um uh i come from a theme park family i have i have a theme park father and specifically like a theme park show father um and those aren't really for very young children so like and especially the kind that my dad liked which is like david bowie presents the or not david bowie uh but who's the the i'm from texas who's the bowie the famous bowie from texas oh the bowie knife yeah exactly

that guy but it's like him telling you about what happened at the Alamo. Like that's sort of the kind of theme park show that I was familiar with as a child. And so I was like, yeah. It did not do its job making me want to go to the theme park. I have been to Epcot.

I went around the time that I had this tape. My big memory was that the butter was shaped like Mickey's head. That was like what I remembered from Epcot. So the little butter balls. Yeah. There were three of them. It's for kids. Yeah.

That's fun. Did you, did it occur to you? Like, is it here? Do they still do it? Or were you, or even like I'm in the America area where the show, the hallowed show happened. Absolutely not. I think in rewatchwatching it well i probably watched this special once a year or so like it's one that i revisit a lot uh

and watching it this last time as like a you know a person who's more secure in my queerness than i have been at various times i'm like oh this tape made me gay like this obviously made me gay like it's like beautiful what would have at my time been like adult women with like, you know, skin tight leggings and the swimsuits and very like ultra feminized features. And then just like the ugliest men you've ever seen in your life. Just really awful looking guy.

Like wearing like loose fitting shorts and baggy shirts and backwards baseball caps. And I said, oh, okay, I get it. Women pretty. Guys, that's what they are. Yeah, wow. In a show that is meant to be the most glamorous man and woman you could imagine,

and then the woman is a literal beauty pageant winner, and then Ken is just there. And Alan, Jazzy, all of them. He's fine. He's fine, but it's nothing to write home about yeah yeah and a lot of the women are doing very intense choreography yes like this is not phoned in like you know bounce jazz hands kind of like lazy uh theme park show this is like an intense show with like costume changes. There's acro, there's, you know,

like jumping and flipping women over onto their shoulders and stuff. Yeah, there's little, I don't know what to call it, little cars, little floats. Multiple ones. Little cars. One aspect of Barbie's presence at Epcot

I wanted to mention was a big Barbie car. There may have been a few. I know that it's featured in this special it's what the hosts Lisa and Stephanie pull up in and I think that Barbie would get taken around in it too but they had a couple of bright pink vehicles one a little smaller and maybe open the top and then one like a gigantic really really long limo, which I think was once Mickey's limo. There was something called the limousine that was used a lot around that time and maybe went around the country too.

So I think they painted it pink. But I think the other one, okay, yes, a 1970 Cadillac convertible that was used to transport Barbie around Epcot is now at the Volo auto museum in Volo, uh, Illinois. This is this car museum that we've talked about near where,

uh, Mike grew up that has so, it has a lot of the like Chuckie cheese remnants and we're like the, the like outcast strays of the animatronic world. And I, I once again, I'm bummed that you have no,

you're only, basically at some point Mike could have like gone to visit his parents and then gone to this. Yeah. Now his parents have moved. So you would have to go

only for, which I do want you to do. Well, maybe could we, do they have like a performance space? Could we do a live show from the full museum? Or from the car. Yeah, from the car yeah from the cars

oh my god just to sit on maybe not a seat but like a sit on the top of the car that barbie had to carefully sit on and not fall off of yeah and do our show there that's great uh black box theater situation at the volo music what's the diy venue i'm asking the same questions you are sir well we provide our own folding chairs yeah we kicked off our live performance uh career at a former sports authority with a bunch of folding chairs so if they can do that i who know who knows what's at the in the magical world of volo are the four little shavers there i think that's yeah they. Yeah, they are. Yeah, other ones. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. They were original Chuck E. Cheese characters. They were like a barbershop quartet. It's a barbershop quartet. Yeah. So it's a multifaceted. I think they would sometimes drive Barbie around and you could meet Barbie in Barbie's car

that was refurbed from Mickey owning it. Where's your liquor stains? You gotta buy more things. You going to have to buy the lease. I don't know how it works. I'm going to hardball. But the main thing, obviously, is the show, which is previewed a little bit in the 1993 Disney Christmas Parade special, which is the same one where they previewed epcot splash

tacular which we did an episode about there was just released on the main feed this insane show with uh the big robot dinosaurs that came out of planters and mickey had a gun called the exterminator that he would murder robot dinosaurs with and And he has guards. For Christmas. Yeah, yeah, well, yes. It was around. I mean, it was mainly featured during the summer, but they had to stop. Like, Santa's coming up, but first,

murderous Mickey. Don't get too close, Santa. Maybe hover around the Orlando area. Maybe stay up above it. It's very Mickey by way of Power Rangers or Kamen Rider. There's like Starlight Express kind of metal guards. But this is, what a time.

The same special. Epcot's going to have Splash-Tacular, most bonkers show they ever did, and the Barbie show. What, it's Epcot 94 peak. We should just do an entire, figure out what the hell else is going on at Epcot 94. But of course, okay, so the show, and we'll talk about the show because it factors into the tape, but

the tape is the main thing and the main way we remember it, which has a bunch of other facets to it too. You can watch this on YouTube. The user Rare Disney Treasures. The tape could be achieved for one cent along with certain Barbies, Camp Barbie, Happy Birthday Barbie, Glitter Hair Barbie, which they show at the end.

It is most of the Barbies from the very end of the tape. Is that all of them? Oh, it is. Bedtime Barbie. Yes, they show them all. Yeah. Oh, right. Glitter Hair Barbie seems like a disaster.

Oh, yeah. I believe my cousin had Glitter Barbie because I can like smell it when I look at it I can like smell that plastic glitter smell of it was it was not

her hair just had like a glitter effect or was there actually loose glitter it's not loose it's like a tube of goop of glitter goop

with like a little comb attached to the end that you could brush so beautifully yeah it would work really well it works great yeah

into your own hair I was going to say it worked yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I would imagine. Locket Surprise Barbie, Bedtime Barbie, and those are all plugged at the end. It would be funny if you tried to do it on human hair and it just dissolved.

It's not ready for human hair. Highly alkaline or something. It just turns into a gas and swirls away. Turns your hair white, maybe. Yeah. The opening of the video i mean this thing comes in hot it comes in real hot wait i forget is there any appearance of like stop motion barbie at the beginning or is that you know you wait to the end for that right at the end for that yes

okay so it says goodbye to you okay yes yeah yeah Hosting a show called Barbied Today. Hosting a morning show. But it kicks off with this, and let me just do a little blast of this music. That piece of music plays in a half hour video approximately 400 times yeah um it's it's really great it does keep the energy up i think i was making me think a typical podcast right episode we just sort of talk and we move from topic to topic but i almost want to try this as like if we are shifting topic it's like well now all right okay now let's talk about when barbie uh stops by all the nations in world showcase

if we if we call for the transition music please if you want or if you're feeling like kind of a like low on dopamine okay in the special it if you're feeling like kind of a low on dopamine. Okay, yeah. In the special, it's really only interrupted for kind of stereotypical ethnic stock music to represent the various locations. Like just if you typed Japanese music into a sound effect library,

it'd be like, oh, okay, this is music. The very first. Yeah, there's a lot of um there's one i think they when they go to the china pavilion there's a man doing beautiful like calligraphy yeah and at the very end it's like could you make it say happy birthday barbie double happiness on like a haynes white t-shirt with the cardboard showing like the tape to cardboard like and it's a size 3 white t-shirt with the cardboard showing, like the tape to cardboard. And it's a size 3X t-shirt for Barbie. I don't know.

She's going to sleep in it or something. She can cut other shirts out of it, I guess. As my mother would often say when we were growing up, it's like, oh, you can get it. You can wear it around the house. Yeah, exactly. We still do. Erin and I both get big old shirts.

I'm addicted to buying. Like, Jane and I got me on buying like vintage shirts like i think i have a tower of terror one and a venom one coming like how big are they like xl okay yeah x or double xl something like that yeah um but so that music which is bang and then uh in this case unders underscores, we're getting our Epcot. We're getting our flyovers of Spaceship Earth and all the shots that I've seen so many times because they're in every single thing. Yeah. All of the many, many videos Disney produced around this time.

But then we get to our pink limousine and we're like jump cutting through its arrival and we meet our hosts, Lisa and Stephanie. And here is a taste of their vibe. Hi everybody, I'm Stephanie. And I'm Lisa. Are you ready to party with Barbie? Party, party, party! This is not just any party.

This is a birthday party for Barbie. Barbie decided the best place to have her birthday celebration was right here at Walt Disney World Epcot. And best of all, we're going to watch a sneak preview of an incredible new show, The Magical World of Barbie. Love them. Love them.

Queens. Incredible. I like to think that they gave really beautiful, nuanced auditions and performances, and then on the day, the director was just like, more. Give me more. Scream the lines. Blow out the microphones.

We're going to hear you. You're outside. Project. We were talking about this with Jonathan Taylor Thomas recently, where I was like, I miss a level of kid performance where, obviously obviously those kids are comfortable delivering lines, but they still sound like kids versus like Disney Channel kids now who have to be like very enunciate very well.

And they have to be able to really know dynamics as far as, they're too polished. I miss the days of a screaming child. I love specifically Stephanie's, like she kind of misses a few. Yes. I love those. God.

And just like, boy, what a wall of screams. It's just. Yeah. Oh, boy. That was exciting when you were a kid and you saw other kids screaming about something. Also, they get out of this beautiful limo and then one of them i forget if it's stephanie or lisa is wearing like a denim vest with like rick rack that like zigzaggy like cheapo like their outfits are uh cheap and ugly

for barbie's big birthday they are not having them in sparkly pink outfits like they can't overshadow can't overshadow can't overshadow bar yeah yeah i do like them as kind of it feels like arts and crafts that they made it's like they made their clothes in school yeah big time i mean i love the general it's vests both one denim and the other is like a quilt vest yeah and then she and that the quilt vest is over a pink shirt which is over a yellow shirt so we have so much going on and that the quilt vest is over a pink shirt, which is over a yellow shirt. So we have so much going on. And in the hair, like they have they each have five hairstyles going on in different sectors of the head.

And then a big scrunchie, too. Yeah, I do love it. It's like Blossom's vest better. I'm trying to remember what Blossom's vest was. What the general veneer of Blossom's vest is like Blossom's vest better? I'm trying to remember what Blossom's vest was like. Yeah, what the general veneer of Blossom's vest. I'm not sure. Blossom's was kind of a lot wardrobe wise.

Yeah. That's a costume designer on Tombow. Yeah. Like these look a little more janky, a little more true. They brought options. They were not provided with wardrobe. It was sort of, what was clarissa's wardrobe clarissa's wardrobe was pretty crazy yeah blossom i liked it yeah blossom but she i think it was more of a simpler yeah kind of a vest situation but the clothes themselves were a

little more understood clarissa i feel that yeah, she's wearing like, you know, five different vibes. Yeah, that's much closer. Wacky, wacky lady. Which I like. That was the room, too. She was the coolest, like, kid on TV. Yeah. The neighbor. More than Alex Mack?

You thought she was cooler than Alex Mack? Alex Mack came along later. I like Alex Mack, too. Yeah, I liked Alex Mack, too. I think Clarissa was cooler, but you might be talking to some older men here. I think that might be part of it. Clothes are the hang-on. I don't think that applies here. No, Alex

Mack, clothing-wise, was a little more like big flannel, big backwards cap. Yeah, she was cool. I'm not saying she wasn't cool. I liked the... Yeah, yeah. Maybe not as stylistically bold is what I'm remembering. But I'd have to look at all the...

I'd have to see all the words on the cap... They were all cooler than me. That's for sure. I admire their coolness. And her power, her struggle with her powers. I don't think I would have handled having powers as well as she did. I would like to personally commend Alex Mack on her handling of her powers.

She had the chemical plant after her, too. So she's handling the pressure that comes from the powers, too. Alex Mack was just a T-1000, right? Well, and Blossom's brother was struggling with addiction, so she also had challenges. Yeah, that's true, too. That's just as hard.

Wow. And Clarissa always had a drifter putting a ladder up to her window. That's right. They all had their problems. I love their up to her window that's right so they all had their problems that i i love their love i thought that was cool like oh look they're both kind of weird that's fun yeah yeah yeah no i loved i as i as clarissa is the word clarissa never been said on this show i don't think i've ever talked about and we've been doing this for six years years after the fact um yeah I agree with you.

I was like, I'm not nearly as cool as her, nor will I ever meet a girl as cool as her. I set my standards. How did you feel about Sabrina then? Did it transfer over? Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, I don't think it did.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Was Sabrina cool? I don't know. Was Sabrina cool? I don't know if Sabrina was cool. Sabrina wasn't not cool. Sabrina hung out with Britney Spears, though, which is cool. Yeah, that is cool. I didn't watch Sabrina. I didn't watch the show very much.

She has magic powers. And you don't think she's cool? But she didn't have the vibe. That's a different category of cool. We're talking about the more worldly cool. Like, do you dress cool? Of course powers are cool. I like Sabrina.

I was just saying Alex Mack is cool. Because we're powers. I'm almost like branching off this is so insane to do i'm almost branching different connections different definitions of cool of course power what's cooler than powers yeah what's the x-axis and the y-axis of like having power real world cool where do they all land right the cool the nexus of that is cool clothes and cool powers yeah if you have all of it you got everything i like sabrina but i loved caroline ray and salem because they were funny what about just zelda uh no broadrick that's her name beth broad uh yeah the other aunt was very funny too like i think i like the supporting but you're not talking about cool now you're just saying you enjoyed Like, I think I like the supporting cast more. But you're not talking about cool now. You're just saying you enjoyed.

Oh, you're saying you like the supporting cast more, which I think proves that it didn't fully transfer the coolness as far as. She had pretty good timing. Oh, oh, you're saying because same actress. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. Oh, okay. Yeah, of course.

I was focused on the fictional persona. I was just like, well. Then you so definitively said, yes, it did transfer. Well, I think it turns a vibe. I think the vibe transferred. This is Jason's learning about actors today. I totally forgot. I was just, as a kid, I just was so into the show.

I just bought the reality so hard. That is Sabrina. Yeah. I think Clarissa might be the coolest. I'm really trying to figure this out. Is there a cooler girl on TV? reality is so hard sabrina yeah yeah i think clarissa might be the coolest i'm trying i'm i'm really trying to figure this out as there was a cooler girl on tv um just punky punky's too young punky's not a part of this yeah yeah i didn't watch i didn't watch that maybe it's syndication but i don't know if punky's cool you haven't seen the one where she learns about how you should say

no to drugs because that was pretty cool of her to stand up to the popular kids and say no to drugs yeah you're right like the coolest thing at the end of the day if i learned anything from nbc president brandon tartikoff saying no to drugs was there uh was there an alex mack gag early on where she transforms into the puddle and then she uh re-transformed a human but is like naked behind barrels like she didn't know how to transform the clothes i think that was probably a pivotal coming of age moment i i certainly don't know what you're talking about and that didn't also occur to me as a major moment and i wanted that episode to be back on keep in mind this is the most this is the most innocent, this is the most covered from below shoulders situation you've ever seen.

We were young. I'm a year older than you guys, so I don't remember the thing they're talking about, actually. So I think I just didn't watch it as much. You should think that Sabrina is cool because the Sabrina soundtrack has your favorite songs. Who does the cover of Abracadabra? Sugar Ray. It is Sugar Ray. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who is the band 10,000 Maniacs? Is that what they're called? That's a band, yeah. Do you remember the episode of Sabrina with 10,000 Maniacs? I don't. 10,000 Maniacs was there? It's Halloween,

obviously a huge day for Sabrina, but all the popular kids are going to the popular girls party. And so Sabrina does some magic to get people to come to her party meanwhile uh the aunts have bought new furniture for the house and it's talking furniture and they didn't know and so the furnitures can't stop talking so Sabrina's trying to have this cool party but the furniture can't stop talking you know who'll fix this 1000 maniacs so she like zaps them in to perform for the party.

I got to catch up on Sabrina. Yeah. Is that an, I mean like, look, covering all of Sabrina is very daunting, but musical cameos.

Yeah, please come back. We'll schedule your next one right here and now. Animal Kingdom episode. There was Animal Kingdom die-in. Yes, Sabrina went to Disney World.

You're correct. It is on topic. They did like get musical acts in it because wasn't Britney there in a magic way? Did NSYNC show up? I don't know. They had a lot of musicians, I feel. I didn't even know what this 10,000 was.

Was it Brian? RuPaul. RuPaul is like the judge in the other realm. Wow. Oh, wow. Was Brian Setzer ever on? If so, I'm out. Episode canceled.

No more of that um okay so uh lisa and stephanie tell us a lot very quickly and very loudly but if you go back and re-listen a couple times and just try to maybe slow it down do it a 0.5 percent uh then you you know that barbie's going on a on a world tour um which is that world showcase at all the different nations. And at this point, Lisa and Stephanie split up. And Stephanie is going to go cover all the world showcase stuff. She's going to find some gifts for Barbie around the world. And Lisa's going to focus on the behind the scenes of the stage show.

And you might think, well, they're screwed. They're never going to find each other again. No, they thought of this. They have bright pink cell phones yeah got your barbie cell phone check big like suit up kind of sequence um and then uh and stephanie has a camcorder and lisa does not want to be recorded by that camcorder even though they are being televised there are multiple cameras on them in a professional capacity she's talking to a bigger more intimidating camera yeah but maybe the more like intimate one makes her uncomfortable yeah okay um very strange well i guess with that let's talk

about some of the scenes where lisa goes behind the scenes at the show wrong one i didn't do the instrumental okay look i'm gonna get this down to a science. I will. Okay. Well, I'll get my clubs together. So, Lisa says, I can't think of anything more exciting than a large musical stage show starring Barbie. And she has me there. Yeah. Absolutely.

And then she gets to go talk to the art director of the show, Rhonda Counts. Incredible name. Really good name. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't remember anything in particular about that other than that, like you work at Disney, you're an imagineer.

You work at Disney World and on top of that, you get to do a Barbie thing. You get to design, both of these people, costume designers, because the costumes are stellar. Yeah.

I think they completely, of course, everybody's freaking out about any shots you're seeing of the greta gerwig but it's is not the excitement that they are tapping into this early 90s thing in such a big bold way um and this is the they're they're doing it straight to the source like yeah this wardrobe is uh they they really nail it um and the like they don't have the most production value maybe until they don't have the most production value,

maybe, they don't have the biggest budget in terms of like giant stage pieces, but there is just a really good kind of flat with a couple of pillars and a couple of spheres on top

in pastel colors and that's all I need. I love them. And Jason's little cars that he mentioned, great little cars, there's like a coach that turns into something else. I love the little, Barbie's entrance in that he mentioned a little car there's like a coach that turns into

something else i love the little barbie's entrance in the little like ken kind of peels that uh out a little in the little car yeah uh i would see my this this might land more in the the full uh video of the show oh okay more than i like you know because i only saw the cut down in the dhs um but what what all right so we see some behind the scenes stuff uh then we get some like regional flavor we get pinatas in mexico and origami in japan uh stephanie says that the origami is really beautiful just like barbie oh and then there's a part where she's showing the like mobile that that she is made of origami she goes it even has a colorful ball at the end like the most exciting thing is that there's a colorful ball like epcot it's very good big gray ball It's colorful It's a geodesic dome Do you get it?

There's impressive balls everywhere here This is another great clip Where then Lisa Goes to get her Hair done backstage Or she's like Checking out how Barbie's hair gets done

And then the hair person Makes her the offer of a lifetime. Wouldn't it be fun to have someone fix your hair all the time? I heard what you were saying. I'm one of the hairstylists for the Barbie show. I have some free time now. Would you like me to fix your hair? Wow, how cool! Could you really do that? Sure, let's look at it. Huh, I have a fun idea.

This is too cool. Stephanie will be so surprised. While I get my hair done, let's see some of Barbie's new looks for our show. I'm curious if any of you remembered the difference in her hair before and after she got her hair done. No, that's exactly what I said.

There was a big reveal, and I didn't know what was different about it slightly earlier yeah okay because you're expecting like a beehive or something yeah yeah colors or something yeah glitter hair um no uh yeah so mild makeover but then uh the excitement doesn't stop because then stephan Stephanie's calling because there's a surprise and you got to get over here. Okay, what's the surprise? I got here as fast as I could.

And then this is where Lisa and Stephanie's interest dovetail with Jason's interest because they realize they get to go on a boat. They go on an Epcot boat, the friendship boats. And I was watching this like this is I think is as excited as jason would have been then or now yeah for for the boat not the the friendship boats not the one that goes to the hotels and has lots of stuff the one in epcot that just goes pretty much in a straight line across the water they also include the audio of them being like we we gotta get on that boat what the boat's gonna leave like it's like 30 seconds i'm like stop don't leave without us we gotta get on that boat there's no one in line there's a couple there's never anyone in

line for that it takes longer to get to the other side if you go on the boat than it does to walk. Wait, Jason, could you say another fact or something about those boats, but really any boat that you like, and then say, but just like really high energy, and then end it with let's go. Whatever you say, just end it with let's go. Can I say the actual fact? I said that Jane and I were watching this,

and she is literally falling asleep. And I just real excitedly went, did you know you can fish in Epcot on that body of water? You can schedule it and get there. It's before the park opens. Let's go. Catch and release. There's lots of places you can fish around

Walt Disney World wow Jason I'm so excited that I got to see all the incredible spots where you can fish here at Epcot Center yeah

that's what we should do when we do when we do Port of Entry that's how we should do it the format Jason just shouts stuff about

Port of Entry at Island of Adventure. Whoa, let's go. Well, a Cinnabon, you can get a sweet roll with a bunch of goo on top. Let's go. I'm going to put it on the end of a hook and try to catch any number. Catch any number of bottom feeders in this water, which has not been cleaned. Jason, have you ever been in the starbucks

or cinnabon that you're talking about no i've never stepped foot in any of the buildings all right let's go and well and then like you would think that they would need to take it down a notch after the trip on the boat during which that music plays the entire time but as they land and the excitement only has to ramp up because you'll never guess what they find wow look at all these friends of barbie they're here for barbie's birthday and guess what they're making their own personal birthday card for Barbie. What a great idea. What a great surprise, Stephanie. Thanks.

You're welcome. Thanks. There's some specific tones that are so unpleasant, just separated. It's fine when it's a full sentence. But like, thanks. There's one part of it where you go oh that's too much for my ear imagine your loved one being like i have something really special for you and i sort of four children doing crafts thanks it's for you wow what a great idea it's always nice to get cards but i wish they were screaming at me less yeah could they make me maybe some special ear

muffs and these cards that they're making they're not art directed they're the cards of a child yeah yeah don't look good yeah there's a lot of lifting of the mic like wow it's so pink barbie's gonna love that it's just like some trash glued to construction paper. This card is 70% glue. The card is soggy. Let's go. It'll never survive in the flow of the heat. I made you this card.

Please take it off my hands. I'm getting dizzy. Glue doesn't work in Orlando. The glitter glue is even more toxic than the elders um and the excitement only continues because then you head over to italy and we get a big eaten spaghetti montage yeah my god sped up yeah uh i've talked to at least two other adult women who learned how to eat spaghetti from this special that you put the spin on your fork and on your spoon yeah uh and that's how you do

it and then i i didn't eat spaghetti as a child it's a whole thing we don't have time for it but the first time i had long pasta they served it to me with you know a spoon on the side i said you put the spin on your spork and on your spoon and i i did it and then i read that that's like for children so i stopped doing it whoa oh is that right is that just to like i mean i guess i'm not typically doing the spoon along with the fork that is just to like make it controlled for i believe children to learn that but wow all right jason how are you doing that when you're eating spaghetti um oh please be good. Please be not normal. I was just kind of cut it a little like he cut a salad

so the pieces are not as long. Oh, damn it. Not just not weird. Not big slurps like a cartoon dog. Well, there's probably some slurps,

you know, depends on how saucy. No, it's all right. Sounds like a normal way to disappoint you. I'm an adult man. I don't have the coordination to do the fork and spoon thing.

I was always jealous. So I'm pretty bad at it. We were really hoping, well, I put my head into the plate and I just start sucking. Like we were hoping something as insane as that.

Like a slob. You were hoping like I was like a little baby slob. Well, that was just one version of what it could have been. It didn't necessarily need to be a slob okay but like oh it's like well i take out

my spaghetti fork and then we're like well what's that and it's a different fork you had like commissioned or something oh okay that's another version that would have been great i would have been happy with that i think i was a tri-color rotini uh kid mostly what is that tri-color rotini it was like the school lunch pasta. Oh, okay. The spiral, yellow, red, green. It's a way to get just the smallest amount of spinach in your child's diet.

Yeah. I love the spinach ones. Didn't really like spinach, but I like the spinach pasta. There you go. I might have fallen for the trick the whole time. I maybe didn't know until right now. I'm learning all kinds of. Caroline,

you're teaching us so many spaghetti. Let's go. I mean, I can't believe this, but I think if you're narrating the events of the tape, we're kind of at the show unless we missed anything. But I, I mean, you know, because they got to devote some some time to that ultimately you gotta see the four countries mexico japan china and uh italy i think we got them all yeah there is a town crier

oh yes yeah yeah i feel like i didn't care for that part i didn't want to listen to this type maybe i like i i the one kind of yelling and this was charming enough but that his kind i didn't want to listen to this type of maybe i like i i the one kind of yelling and this was charming enough but that his kind i can't deal with a different type of yelling an adult yelling is less yeah yeah yeah i can't switch between the registers um but we we now get to the show we get to the magical world of barbie um which i really like the choice that lisa and stephanie narrate it from like a pageant. They're at like a, they're at the table that's arbitrarily up in the audience.

Yeah. That's always the move. Yeah. Yeah. They take their, they're so excited to go see it, but then ultimately they, uh,

yeah, we got to work. It's for work. They have to turn their backs to it and, uh, run it like the macy's parade yeah but they're dedicated broadcast professionals and they do it um but the i mean the song is at the beginning right isn't it i mean so we got to talk about the song yeah and i guess i will

play a clip some kind of sampled throughout. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. In Barbie's world There's no limitations In Barbie's world

There's nothing you can't do In Barbie's world Use your imagination And make your dreams come true Come with us right this way It almost sounds like a Sonic the Hedgehog level like background music. And I mean that in a good way. Yeah. Because they'll have those like little subtle horns

and sometimes in a sonic background. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? I know what you're talking about. Yeah. It's a high compliment to a piece of music. Well, it reminds me of all any of them like late 80s, early 90s music I like with horns. It's like Toto and go west yeah the

ducktales theme and it doesn't if disney was getting a horn section around this time you knew they meant business um i mean what a song i mean when we were talking about doing this carol you like you so you sort of proved your fan merits with a Instagram message of, yes, yeah, yeah, a great acapella rendition of the song. So clearly this part blingers with you. This is a great song to you. And as Jason can confirm, in the show, this is the hook for every transition.

I think there's like two or three other songs that they do, but it's mostly just this song through the whole 30 minute show okay well i guess get your money's worth out of it if you wrote a great one because i like it a lot and it has that i mean i love it because it's it's barbie vibe but it's it's also it's so disney around that time too like ducktales it sounds a lot like a lot of those yeah but. But there's some of that, like, phantasmic, you know, like your dreams coming true and that style of harmony. And I feel like they really deployed some real, like, enunciating singing.

Come with us, right this way. Come with us, let's all play. The male singers, especially, just really, little nasal, really pronounce all that. There's a lot going on in that. Really love it. That's pure magic. And that's part of the theme park experience, I feel like,

is you're going to a special place that is not where you get to spend all of your childhood. It's just only on the most special days. And the songs remind you about how magical your day is. Yeah. The wonders and the sights you're seeing. Songs like this are so pure. I do love to imagine the composer thinking about all that as he's like putting

it down. He's like, this is going to be the best day of this child's life. I need this to stick with them. Yelling at the horn section during the recording. Kids, need to hear these beautiful horns and you're fucking it up. Not magical enough. Make it magical. Gun like Phil Spector. Kids, need to hear these beautiful horns and you're fucking it up. Not magical, but make it magical.

Gun like Phil Spector. Yeah, yeah. It's so great. Barbie arrives in, I don't, let's, okay. If I say

loaded, tough to choose best wardrobe of the show, because I think it might be, though the gown at the end is really, the pink sparkly gown is pretty perfect and classic. What she comes out in, this like pink denim bolero cutoff top, like underneath,

she's wearing a shirt that prince would wear yeah that prince wore in the in the mountains music video but then on top of that like perfectly flared like achy breaky heart era butt pink yeah it rule i this the first uh wardrobe yeah oh my god ankle socks and like a platform sneaker. Just toe to toe. Perfect. Does any other wardrobe top that in anyone's eyes? The last song,

the gown she comes out in at the end, I know it makes sense for the top, but everyone else is wearing very fashion show kind of Euro outfits. And then she comes out like dress like Glinda, the good witch.

So it's a little, uh, yeah, it's not that one. That one's too generic. Yeah. I feel, but of course,

I mean, you know, big, big one to go out on. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Um,

yeah, the first one is the coolest one. Yeah. Yeah. That's one of those, like, I don't know. There's, like, just like in 90s stuff because it's what you grew up with. And then you look at that, and I think just objectively, we lived in that world where people dressed like maybe only a Barbie

in a theme park show, but where it was possible to put that wardrobe together, and we threw that world away for what yeah what did we choose instead this is where i commend greta gerwig for styling the movie in this way you could everybody's losing their minds to see giant movie stars in clothes like this and uh good reason it's a it's a hell of a style it is funny i didn't even think about it until just now that like it's obviously firmly in the 90s barbie which there's like a classic barbie that was iconic in its own way but clearly like the 90s one is obviously you're doing it for younger people not people that are 70 or 80 but that still does sort of prove what you're saying that how impactful that fashion and the colors of the 90s were to do it specifically there,

which is the right decision. Well, it reminds me of earlier in the special when she's talking to the art director, she's like, well, we made all of the vehicles transform because all of Barbie's things transform. It's like, I think just all toys in the late 80s, early 90s transformed. I don't think that's a Barbie thing.

I think that's just like, that was what toys had to do at the time. Barbie transformed. There were that's just like, that was what toys had to do at the time. Barbie transformed. There were no other toys that transformed. Nothing I can think of. You think of the word transform. You think Barbie. You think of what toy.

Barbie, of course. Yeah. I mean, that was, so vehicles are great. Clothes are great. There's this, this was the clip that Amanda wasanda was like well you have to talk about the she she posted the um the living in the land of oz song yes which this is time for jason

so that song was much different in the actual show so in the the vhs tape was filmed during previews uh before thanksgiving 93 uh and then went through a huge amount of rewrites that song hugely different um and the main difference is that there's sort of a rock and roll koala with sunglasses who stars in the number i'm making a here let me let me get it right I'm making a Macaulay Culkin face. Are you happy, motherfuckers? So many comments. Lord.

What had you been saying? Macaulay. And you guys never brought it up. I think partially because who gives a shit? I noted it during the episode, but I actually doubted my own pronunciation. Macaulay. People acted like that was the most obvious one in the world caroline i'm fine about this i'm fine about these cars clearly i'm standing up for energy i'm trying to keep the energy up

um the the show uh you know talking about all the changes the show goes around the world a lot yeah and the thing i honed in on on australia is that it samples the australian folk song waltzing matilda it does yes it's an interpolation it's really cool like the chorus morphs into it but then the lyrics are like barbie's waltzing matilda waltzing matilda is like a war song it's like sort of a serious song wait so a koala plays waltzing matilda yeah waitzing matilda is like a war song it's like sort of a serious song wait so a koala plays waltzing matilda yeah wait a minute i know we kind of went past yes we got distracted we need to talk about the koala yeah you're right oh my god i'm sorry there's a koala in the one sequence there's a gorilla in a later one yeah okay call him a monkey but does the koala sing

the song or is it the koala's playing the guitar he's wearing sunglasses and um he's about like midge height he's like halfway to barbie uh but in a full like mascot suit and they're kind of so the the the plot in the epcot series is some sort of like and we're presenting you an award for friend of the animals and then they just sing the song but in this version there's an evil guy who's trying to kill the koala because of some reason yeah Yeah, he's pretty mad about it. And he shows up in Africa, in the jungle, I think, too. They go to the jungle.

Yes, recurs. But it's like Barbie's like, hey, don't kill a koala. He's just trying his best. And then to repay her, he plays a rock and roll version of this song for her. Oh, here we go. OK, I got it now. Oh, and I love when it's a a it's a cart it's a mascot character but with a real guitar not a cartoony you could break no no it's not one of those

inflatable you know chuck E. Cheese bullshit guitars this this is like yeah this is really different and lots of dancers and we're doing the swim and stuff um this is fun you think improved um that's a great question it does before they go to australia there is a really strange moment i don't know if you also honed in on this of that um they're like where in the world should we go and then one of the black dancers is like we should go to africa and barbie's like nah and then what's the white dancers is like what about aust Australia? And she's like, that's a great idea. Oh, boy. Barbie.

Yikes. Oh, my God. Optics hadn't been invented in 1994. It's been weighing on me that I chose the name Brad as the most boring one out of the list a while ago. And then upon Googling it, discovered that Brad is black. That's not why I was dismissive of Brad. What ethnicity is Jazzy?

I thought it was kind of a boring name. What's Jazzy's ethnicity? I don't know. We have to look at the Wikipedia. Jazzy. I was trying to find the name if Barbie had like a canonical koala with a name. I don't think I can find it. But I did find that there's a Sonic the Hedgehog character named Barbie Koala.

Oh. So it was a character I was not familiar with. You want to talk about extended universes. Sonic the Hedgehog, all those supporting characters, all his friends, and Shadow. I know the ones from my childhood from the first couple years. But then I get to Amy, and I'm gone. I don't know past Amy. I know Amy, and then whoever's after that.

I know before, I know Rotor. And I know the guy with the kind after that I know before I know Rotor And I know The guy with the Like kind of like French Like colonel's outfit And I forget his name I know Sally

I know Tails But yeah After that No I'm a little lost Do we get a prize If we name our 200th name From the 90s

In this episode I hope so Please Number 200 Somebody Somebody count them I hope so please number 200 somebody somebody count them i hope so um well that's a cool number i mean either way the land of oz i think is working out great and then you check in with um uh the lisa the the hosts we we hope you're loving the show as much as we are glad we checked in uh appreciate that um oh at this point i'm really i'm i this is me real time discovering the horror that i did not

pull the clip of the song the barbie touch oh really what was i doing don't worry i can sing it you've got the time oh please barbie touch all you've got to do is accessorize it's a it's a it's the latest fashion craze you've got the barbie touch you can touch it up all around it is a great song wow yay thank you caroline that was was like a little contrived movie moment with like, everybody's getting here to the party, but the stereo is broken.

Yeah. What are we going to do? It's free to call in 10,000 maniacs. Oh, yeah. Thanks for being our 10,000 maniacs. I mean, that song.

The Barbie Touch. That's fantastic. That is that like nasally, the Barbie Touch. All you gotta do is. Is it time to talk about the actor who played Ken in this production? Absolutely. Sure, yeah.

Do you know that there's a documentary about him on Amazon Prime? What a reveal. That is a reveal. He, as of the documentary, just had his 43rd consecutive contract at Walt Disney World. He went there for the college program and has not left um and it's called the happiest man on earth because he is the happiest man oh i did see that yeah he was a cast he's a cast member for like decades yeah yeah um a guy with a wife and kids uh the children are aspiring theme park performers according to his instagram which i've spent some time on um yeah

and a lot of his identity is like tied up in you know being ken and this seminal production does that like his like claimed if there was an imdb for theme park performers would that be the number one thing probably i think so yeah yeah but he's obviously he's done a million things if he's been there that long yeah but i have to wonder like when you're a young man theme park performer who is like a face character like you know can sing and dance and stuff like you have the princes and then like what do you do until you're like the dad care or like you know i don't know that he's like playing geppetto or something like that you know geppetto is a like a mask yeah exactly maybe he is but that's not the glory of Ken or a prince. Yeah, exactly.

I wonder who the oldest prince, like what oldest actor who ever played a prince is. Is there an internal age that they don't like write down, but they know? It's like once you're 37. Yeah. Over. And maybe it's lower. Are you asking about your sit? Do you want to know if you can be a prince? Was it 39? Because I don't know. Yeah. Over. And maybe it's lower. Are you asking about your sit? Do you want to know if you can be a prince?

Was it 39? Because I don't know. Maybe. Oh, yeah. The world, like the oldest, the oldest, like Prince Eric. Wow. Wow. Yeah.

Kids are like, Prince Eric looks different. He looks tired. He makes noises when he stands up and sits down. It's like, yeah, he's Prince Eric like on the off season. He's not quite a Maurice yet. Like if you go at 8 a.m., yeah, if you go at 8 a.m., they have like a 50-year-old Prince Eric until like 11. And then like a hot young Prince Eric.

Well, he wants to get it done early, too. Yeah, he goes like the best. Early to bed, early to rise. Right, right. He's part-time, yeah. That's interesting. Wow, Billy Fl flanagan the happiest man on earth oh wait and we overlooked that i mentioned it that barbie was a uh a pageant winner but specifically they were having trouble finding barbie um and then they were and then the disney people were watching the miss Miss America pageant and found Miss Oregon, Elizabeth Simmons,

the third runner up. So she didn't win that pageant, but she won the role of a lifetime. Except that she then kind of immediately didn't do the role. It was a Beth mix something, was the woman who did it for the majority of the show. So it was Elizabeth Simmons for the VHS tape and then pretty promptly was a different

who um has done a couple of really interesting podcasts about you know uh about all the rewrites of the show and that it was originally written with all this like point work like ballet work and she was not a ballet dancer and you know they were like oh we're gonna bring in a a body double for those parts but then those parts got cut yeah interesting do you know why what was she replaced or the original actress i do not know that interesting yeah or she left creative differences you also uh said that you you at some point in your adult life have looked up the whereabouts of lisa and stephanie yeah you were talking about facebook groups earlier i do back in my facebook days loved a facebook group And I did find like a Facebook group for aficionados of this special in particular.

And Lisa and Stephanie were both members of it. The actors, their real names are not Lisa and Stephanie. But I think one was like in nursing school. They sometimes would talk to each other. Yeah. Since then, their socials have been a little, I don't know if they're just swarmed with fans with the you know popularity of barbie that they all had to go in private but uh yeah people are so uh much more accessible on like facebook than you would imagine even too like they people like i and now i'm the only

example i have is i think he passed away but my mom's like you know tony dow from leave it to beaver is very active on various 60s Facebook groups. And she'll be like, oh, I responded to one of his comments the other day. He played Wally on Leave it to Beaver. Okay. Kind of an important character. Very important. Yeah.

But not too important to talk to their fans. Of course, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that doesn't surprise me that they're there. Yeah. Did you ever directly interact or no? No. No.

I immediately went to, are you guys familiar with the Wee Sing series? Yeah. I have directly interacted with Silly Wim from Wee Sing in Sillyville uh who i guess lives in houston now and i had a mutual friend with my first high school ex-boyfriend max castillo i said max how do you know silly and he was like oh we like did this thing together so i sent her a dm and said hey silly women's really important to me wow i don't know what is this series i had one of uh i think i think we sing in sillyville is the one that my wife erin grew up i think this was this one was a big one for her unless i'm mistaken yeah i had a different

sillyville big rock candy mountain that was another really really big one grandpa's attic maybe uh maybe grandpa or was that hers i don't know silly okay let's see but there's well there's a big tree with a face so i don't like that oh then you will not enjoy the we sing series oh geez that's the main the we sing series was a series created an educational series created by some music educators uh the best people to create a series sure um that said you know we need to be teaching children um folk songs and you know public domain music these children only want to sing copyrighted songs and so it's a series of sort of uh my favorite kind of entertainment which is like adults in mascot costumes and then also adults not in mascot costumes and sort of painted sets

oh yeah yeah like doing like really rudimentary theatrical like you know real quick just that question we'll go right back to this do you are you a zoobly zoo fan of course i am okay everyone time for the fun to begin come along with us oh yeah big time um a shelly devolves fairy tale theater any of that stuff is big time my vibe um and so when we sing in sillyville, the colors aren't getting along. So it's the red bitty booties and the green spurtle gurgles and the twirly pops and the purple pashas getting along with everyone still. So these two children are transported into a coloring book to help Sillywim figure out how to make all the colors get along again. Wow. That's sort of the plot.

Okay. I figured out my mine is we sing together which has like a mouse lady and a like a bear guy he's a little zoobly zoo okay this one was kind of frightening i haven't seen these i don't there's a big teapot probably for that one you know the public domain teapot i'm a little teap teapot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn't think of the name. You know, the teapot song. Teapot song. Yeah, they tried to sort of like,

like Grandpa's Addicts are like songs a grandpa would like. And then Silly Wim is silly songs. So it's like the I'm a nut, I'm a nut, I'm a nut. If you know that one or like One Bottle of Pop, Two Bottle of Pop, all these classic silly songs. Oh, okay. And then Big Rock Candy Mountain is like folk songs. So it's like Big Rock Candy Mountain

and like more kind of American South based music. Skip to my loo oh sure yeah sort of thing oh nobody knows the troubles i've seen that's one's and that's um the um little bunny foo-foo sings that after he's turned into a goon for by popping the misi mouse he sings okay i learned about a recent thing that's popular with kids nowadays on YouTube called Skibbity Toilet recently, which is like a CGI head that comes out of a toilet and kind of screams things at people. What's the name of this? Skibbity Toilet. Okay.

Skibbity Toilet. And it, yeah, it's a little horrifying. Oh, I don't like that. It's a little. A little? Yeah, it's a little. It's like a ventriloquist dummy CGI head. It's a little Sl. Oh, I don't like that. It's a little... A little? Yeah, it's a little... It's like a ventriloquist dummy CGI head. It's a little Slenderman-y.

And kids like this or are they afraid of him? I think he might be the villain. The villain? I hope so. I think there's some other creatures who have cameras for heads and TVs for heads. Is he trying to pull you into the toilet world with him? Is that his game? I'm not really

sure. I hate to be crude. Does he drink your pee? I don't. I think he mostly sings. He sounds like Spoonman. Or what's the skibbity-bop? The Scatman? The Scatman. Yeah, he sounds a little like a more

high-pitched Scatman. Everything you say that's designed to make this more clear is making me more confused. I don't understand it either. To me, it seemed like the YouTube stuff from like five or six years ago of like CG, like... Johnny, Johnny, Yes, Poppy. That one?

Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Telling Lies, is that that one? Yeah, yeah. It seemed like along those lines um so it might just be uh viruses that infect people okay both their computers and their brains oh so maybe so a virus might have made this video virus might have produced this yeah we're there in this world but it's probably similar to a like quote unquote like oh that all the new ai which is really just like people doing like data entry for pennies on the dollar like around the world and just spoiled the magic of ai i spoiled the magic i also think you said

this two weeks ago yes you did you said exactly this on the show yeah future the toilet man is the is people the way in yeah uh uh sort of seemingly whatever the those early barbie cg direct-to-video things they just took that technology and kept some windows xp machines running and now are we allowed to leave the episode without mentioning the the video where barbie meets harvey weinstein has everybody seen no we're not allowed this clip yeah yeah i mean i don't have it ready to go um it's it's really i forget if it's barbie or barbie's friends midge that's who knocked her it might be oh no poor bitch got in on one of the lawsuits. It's so insane.

It is absolutely bonkers to watch. All these girls on a Hollywood set. No, who is that? You don't know who that is? That's Harvey Weinstein, the biggest producer in Hollywood. He's always up on the stage during the Oscars. Hello, girls. Hey, keep your dreams alive. Maybe you could.

And then they animate him to be like, he looks like the animated Superman from the 90s. They beautify him so thoroughly. The famously dashing, barrel-chested Harvey Weinstein. Harvey's friend Harvey. You can get him from the toy aisle. He hangs out with Alan Sherwood a lot.

And he has friends too. Bob. And well, Quentin says he's not his friend now, but I think Quentin was his friend once. Yeah.

I'm just waiting for the comic con where like Bob pops up. Like have we heard about bob like bob weinstein yeah he's laying low okay give it 10 years if you're him yeah he's just like writing the tallies yeah although he might have like we've discovered many times about people that have like he may just have another company that no one knows he's involved with oh i'm sure yeah yeah and he's just been doing stuff and who knows. I've almost asked this so many times in this episode.

Alan Sherwood, isn't that the guy who created Brady Bunch? No, that's Sherwood Schwartz. This is helping with our name count. Let's say Lloyd Schwartz, his son. And it's also not Alan Sherman. Yes, the paradise. The brother, yeah. We're doing really good on this name here.

I really hope somebody actually does go count. Do the character names count right and all the characters in We Sing in Sillyville count right? Oh, nice.

It's just specifics. As long as they're from, let's just say, does Tony Dow count? Yes. Or are we suing 90s only? Maybe we should do 90s. Well, he was alive

in the 90s. Yeah, of course. And relevant. He's it, yes uh i could say that we'll come a couple of zoobly zoo builder beaver oh yeah uh mayor ben played by ben varine of course the star of zoobly zoo great great um uh is this okay does it count as different ones if i say macaulay culkin and macaulay culkin yeah so those count as different references yeah yeah one movie person who exists and one who does not It is a little surprising that we never got like a twin movie

where he plays both twins. Or did we? Am I forgetting? Maybe his time was too valuable. And he also had brothers. So they just would hire the brother to play one of them. Yeah, that's true. Oh, yeah, yeah, sure, sure.

Okay, what's left in this show? Is there anything we've missed that you guys saw in the expanded version? Well, there are, like, doves that are released at the end of the show, which is just, like, guys, like, come on. They come out of her dress, it feels like. Like, the dress births doves. Like, I know that Disney has a complicated relationship with, like like work animals

and clydesdales and horses and stuff but it's just like you're just killing birds for the show oh yeah every single show they're not coming back afterwards to reset for the next show yeah i haven't really really grappled with that lie that lie that you're told is a show well no the doves they come back yeah they're really well trained so much so that they come back as once all the people are cleared so we have to leave so that the doves come can come back they'll be too scared to come back if you're still here as soon as doves breathe in the orlando air they're dead they're not supposed to be down there you're taking that boat fishing over dead doves are just plunging into the lake i call it um a thing i noted we were talking before there's video online

of the very last production of this show in 1995 where they have changed saying to from Epcot 94, they say it's great to be here at Epcot 95. In this one, I was trying to figure out if it was a lot of friends and family in the audience because there's a good amount of like performers touching the audience members. So that, having listened to a podcast with the replacement Barbie, that is a part of it

and that they would specifically put like pins on the children who were there like through charities um so they would go up and go like interact with them and then they bring a child up at the end and put them in a pretty barbie dress and and ken says can i kiss you on the cheek and she goes can i give you a little kiss on the cheek the thing before that is the gorilla what runs out in the crowd and at some point he grabbed the dad's shoulders and gave it a little shake and i'm like i wonder if he knows that dad or if it's just can i give you a kiss on the cheek yeah yeah but that's classic stuff you gotta humiliate just razz in a dad shaking a dad a little bit of theme park is a like a fine tradition

yeah you gotta make dad look a little silly I wonder if they knew when they were filming that that it was the final show like and if it was like the final episode of friends

where everyone's just sort of on the verge of tears the whole time yeah maybe probably honestly probably with most of this stuff

I think honestly the answer is it's like a theater production and everybody is very emotionally tied. I think, Annie, if you do something like, you know, four times with the same group of people, like emotions start to get out. So you do it for a year and a half. Halloween Horror Nights, I know the end of Halloween Horror Nights, those scare actors,

it's very emotional, the last night, you know? Sure, sure. It was very emotional for me when i was fired from my tour guide job with a letter i didn't get to share the emotion with anybody but yeah you gotta admit it you kept yourself on the the roll uh the roll call like you kept yourself on the form for the free yeah no i never took a shift and i was only there for parking so uh the most worthy and i had a full-time job so it was the most the most firing that made the most sense in the world but uh i i was an intern on the back lot and you had the the badge and you

could show the badge and park in the frankenstein lot and at the end of the semester i was really like do i get this back i'm going back to the east coast but should i hold on to this because i'm thinking of moving back out here you should have done what i did and make it take a color photocopy of the id so when it is seized from you you can still flash a fake one which i did for a long time until i got caught and then luckily the badge ended up at the desk of somebody who i knew i probably told this one on the show before but it's been it's been a long time may i make a quick aside about frankenstein and universal studios this is really the podcast you know i every time universal emails me and ask

for my opinion i give it um i really want to help them build something beautiful and there was a thing where i was like which which universal properties would like, would you want to see a world of this, this, this? And one of them is universal movie monsters. Like Dracula is really big for me. Like I always get a photo with Dracula there.

And so then all the followup questions are like, so say you're in a world that's a universal movie monsters. What kind of music would you want to hear? What kind of food? And all my answers are like, I don't know if that's your job, but you just got to do it. Blood water. I don't know, that's your job, but you just gotta do it. You just gotta do it.

Put this on me. Blood, blood water, I don't know. Wow. Full Lisa and Stephanie energy. It's like all caps. I think whatever you want is fine. I think use your imaginations and anything can be true in Monster World. Let's go.

It sounds like you influenced the Monster Land they're building in Florida. Oh, I told them that I live out here. Why would they do that? They're here for me. Just, you know, a theme park goer. It sounds like maybe you're part of it. You may be like where the deciding vote

on like an element of the land. 51 to 49. Yeah, it was like, are we going to play like happy in the month? Like the Pharrell song happy here? Or is it going to be old, scary sounding music? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Scary music. Monster's theme. We it going to be old, scary-sounding music? Yeah, yeah. Scary music!

Monster Steam! We have you to thank, then, I guess, for your survey enthusiasm. What are we missing? I mean, I'm just to the edge. She's wearing her biggest dress, and doves come out of it, and the same song plays again. But that's great. Play it as much as you want.

I mean, I think it's a real victory. I think this entire... I think Disney and Mattel and it's a real victory i think this entire i think uh disney and mattel and barbie was a match made in heaven and in aesthetic heaven i love every shot of this it's really fun to look at um i don't know what did have we missed anything not from the show i mean just thoughts of like barbie like it i'm sure there's a world where there was like a more permanent thing that ended up here too just but it sounds like yeah there was like a lot of disagreement between the company so yeah I just like and there's a different time like with money and

such that maybe something could have ended up that's that is weird that there is not some permanent Barbie place there is something called Mattel Adventure Park coming in Glendale, Arizona. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know much about it. I don't. Well, I see some thumbnails with maybe a Barbie presence. Oh, and a Thomas presence. Oh, yeah.

I hope that they build this fast enough that my son is still, that Thomas is the central part of his world so that we can get there. I think they are building it really fast. Maybe it's so fast maybe it's so fast that it's making me think it will not be a very good market um but i see a barbie beach house there that's cool uh we got some he-man stuff and some hot wheels i don't know barbie's just from like toy aisle real estate barbie had her own complete aisle in toys r us it was just wall to wall pink i mean you all remember doing going there or not toys r us it was just wall-to-wall pink and you all remember doing

going there or not going there because it was not yeah you went to the blue aisle instead the blue aisle yes right but it is just interesting that like that's got to be such a like one of the top things that didn't have like a permanent theme park presence and i wonder yeah i wonder like i guess even do you want a blue sky real quick, what your Barbie ride or something would be. Ooh. Oh, boy. Because you probably have to be in the dream car. I would assume that's your ride vehicle.

I think we would want a dark ride of some kind. I think you need to, like, you know, there's these rides, there's Secret Life of Pets where it's like a little avatar of you and you're getting sprayed with water and stuff. And then there's, like, the car changing colors, those kind of little gags in the in the cars ride but you gotta there's gotta be something where it is you and you get to see yourself in a mirror in a bunch of different wardrobe changes right i was thinking um um uh the scary one at disneyland what's it called mr to Toad no well I only say that because the devil shows up and you end up in hell the one that during the holidays is the nightmare before Christmas I'm so sorry

not haunted mansion but yeah I'm picturing that where you know you look in the mirror and you are the various ghosts but it's you as the as the various. Yes, yes. So that has to be part of it. So it's got to be, is it some that you're like, you're getting ready for some big Barbie-bration? Yeah. And you get to like, I think we're fine.

It's got to be, you know, I think it's not so character oriented because we've discovered this, that it doesn't matter to people of midges in it. Wow, I'm in midges' workout room. Barbie's friend Roy is here. Roy was active from 1971 to 1976, and now he's not.

I am interested in the movie because I've looked at the IMDb, and there's a lot of Barbies and a lot of Kens. There's no skipper credit. So there is, is there a post yeah maybe i'm just wrong i think there might be a celebrity cameo that i think yeah is there a post-credit sequence with like a partially like just lighting matches or something or smoking a cigarette and it's like don't skip me like the hollywood gossip is that they're trying to build a Mattel cinematic universe

Oh, I'm sure Yeah Yeah This makes a lot of sense Wait, Mattel Hot Wheels? Is that J.J. Abrams doing a Hot Wheels movie? Is that Hasbro? Yeah, it's kind of a gritty

Oh, that's Hasbro Maybe that's a Hasbro universe I don't remember I think it might be Hasbro No, Hot Wheels Because Hot Wheels was in that picture with Barbie Okay, so that's the Mattel universe, I guess. So Barbie will be driving a Hot Wheels car,

maybe in a big crossover movie of some kind? In terms of ride, I mean, just as long as it is just, it's that instead, as long as you are, you're in crazily bright cars. Maybe it's like the Bibbidi-Bobbidi Boutique or whatever. But kind of as a ride. Yeah. If there's something that doesn't cost $250 per person.

That's probably for the best. Get more people in there. That's where little girls go to dress up. Oh, I know. Yeah. And for girls it costs $300 and for boys it's $15. Really? Yeah, if you want to become a knight you just gotta gel your hair. A knight or a pilot and then pirate eye patch they've got they've got surplus glitter goo they just with

an unbreakable like a drugstore comb they just kind of give you a swoop yeah yeah if you can just dollify so yeah it's like at the end it's like there's a box like you see yourself in the box maybe you're like barbie's friend michael and then it's like me but i have a cool outfit on maybe it's sort of like interactive with like like spaceship earth is even though we don't like that element of it necessarily where you choose things before you're on the ride and then at the end you see your whole thing like your whole presentation of your toy or your barbie's friend now or part of her family either way you can choose yeah i don't want to be in a box though that scares me barbie i don't want to be stuck in a box i want to be barbie's friend no i don't want to be in a box i don't get

to hang out with barbie if i'm sealed off now the kid is gonna get you and then take you home mike you've talked about claustrophobia moments in the past do you want to be in the box you want to be in a box well because i would be very comfortable in the box i'm like okay you would you would want to go home with a kid who was an inbox collector as they call it for toys yeah yeah sure yeah yeah i mean i've talked before of like oh i want to do the six flags coffin challenge but don't don't bother me just leave me with my agatha christie like audiobooks like leave me with my miss jason wants to sleep in a car jason wants to be in a coffin for 72 hours at a six flags

well you make 666 dollars or what it's not even that maybe maybe maybe yeah the possibility and he and when they say oh it's time for you guys to move your legs for five minutes so you don't you know just letting up the biggest sigh no problem what time of the year is this well it's around october yeah so i mean that could be any temperature in southern california in new jersey i think it's a little chillier you know it really sounds That's tough. Would you be like Barbie's ex, Jason, or something? Again, friends over family. We're still on

good terms. I mean, it was unpleasant. Breakups are always unpleasant, but still say Merry Christmas. What was that term you threw that I never heard before about relationships? Situation. Oh, situationship. Jason had a situationship with Barbie. Those are like, have a negative kind of thing.

But you'd made a commitment to Skipper. And like, you know, you don't want that to be affected by your relationship with Barbie. Like, you know, you're staying in Skipper's life. Skipper's too young to understand the nuances. Yeah, yeah. I still get a birthday present for skip still get her a gift card still get her a barnes and noble card she buys barbies with it it's fucked up there are too many toys for example not enough books

too many toys nowadays i think for a barbie ride for me this might just speak to what kind of ride i like but i'm picturing like the hogwarts uh universal ride where it's like what's gonna happen in our imagination today and it sort of swoops you to one thing and oh it's you're the astronaut and then it swoops you to the next thing and oh you're a soccer star and then she does yeah in the end it's like and you could do even more and then your picture is on the wall or whatever you need. So you could use the kooka. It's a kooka arm is what they call it. Oh, yeah. So they can move you around.

Kind of magical sparkly transitions. So like the kooka arm, you could like kick the soccer ball sort of in the vehicle. And then you perform open heart surgery on someone with Barbie. Yeah. Because she's a doctor and you're in surgery. You're in like the operating room now. Or you're delivering babies or something. Sure.

Whatever, bud. She can do it all. Barbie having all the jobs is good because it doesn't, there's not that element of like, it's not like empowerment by way of like dullness, like Lola Bunny in Space Jam 2. You know what I mean?

She can have all the jobs, and the jobs are great, and also the wardrobe is still unbelievable. So she's delivering, it's the most beautiful sparkly forceps you've ever seen. Even as, like the blood splashes on her during the open heart surgery, but it kind of, it looks like she planned it. It's like paint splatters.

It's like a little heart shape on's like like paint splatters yeah it's like a little heart shape on her like lapel it's adorable wow it always perfectly yeah if blood shoots out of a heart it would stand to reason it would still maintain the shape i love being a doctor i lost another one today but you can't win them all uh my question it's probably too much of a corporate nightmare but like there's been a lot of easter eggs already mentioned for the movie i know uh when margaret robbie has been doing like um stops along the uh like press stops uh promoting this or going to premieres jane pointed out like oh all these outfits they're dressing her in are like barbie yeah like classic outfits or like nods to like styles and stuff so

could any of the music from this show show up in the mid like a character it's just turning off a radio at some point and the barbie touch like you just hear a few seconds of it i mean it would be it exists and they could just use it as is i bet they would think no like people don't know these songs enough yeah but they but also like people had these tapes and the tapes uh wedge themselves into people's brains such as caroline so i mean there you could i think you in certain cases you would just get screams from the audience if there was a little touch of the Barbie touch. Sure.

Boy. Do you all have your tickets for Barbie yet? No. No, not yet. I don't have a... Not a big early ticket buyer. I'm not really... I don't have a Barbie plan, and we will be in Vegas as it's coming out.

So I will at least have to wait for things to die dead. Do you have a Barbie plan? Yeah, of course I do. What are you talking about? Yeah. Well, it's mostly my spouse who's very excited. so that so we i will at least have to wait for for things to die dead you have a barbie plan yeah of course i don't know what you're talking about yeah well it's mostly my spouse who's very excited but yeah we got tickets the day they went on sale because it's gonna sell out um and we're picked we've picked out our outfits yeah we're opening night um friday so we're not going crazy on the thursday midnight but yeah friday Okay. Nice. Anything you're proud of in the outfits? Anything you're like, well, this is going to...

Well, you know, it's a classic, you know, kind of queer poly adult couple where it's like, they're going to do like a version of Barbie Ken-ified and I'm doing a version of Ken Barbie-ified, you know, we're, you know, finding the gender that exists between the two, you know. Nice. And that's the situation you have heading into the 2023 movie, having grown up with the tape,

it being like a part of your journey. What a beautiful, that's legit fantastic. You also showed us your very somber like funeral attire for Oppenheimer. You just turn it all inside out. You take it off to reveal it. It's like all in one piece. Yeah, it's beautiful.

Well, everyone will be lucky to get to see all that in the movie theater. And we're so lucky to have you for this. Oh my God, what a blast. Caroline Anderson, you survived Podcast The Ride. Thank you. Let me, wait, I should have had this ready to go. Let's exit to the gift shop.

Is there anything that you would like to plug? Okay. Watch season two of This Fool on Hulu. I'm no longer involved. That was my choice. I left the industry, but I love those people. So keep watching. Oh, great.

And if you want to follow me on socials, follow my work account at Fitness Hedonist. i do body positive uh fitness stuff that's great yeah you wait which you were telling us before you started recording some of what you've been up to and that's that all sounds super fun so uh that is great and uh yeah what what a delight i uh discard this discovery that you know this thing front to back and we're so as excited about it as Lisa and Stephanie. What a delight. As for us, the big thing on our end this week, now having covered Barbie, and not on the main feed.

It should have been main feed, could have been main feed. This is entirely a scheduling blud. Again, we didn't have a Barbie plan. Well, this will be a main feed at some point. But now we switch over officially to podcast, the ride sin city nights. And with that, uh,

as you hear this, you can still join us at podcast, the rides, big Vegas groove blender in Las Vegas, Saturday, July 22nd, 8 PM. And if you're not,

uh, in sin city, you can join us for the live stream. We will put the link in this description and we'll be we're just excited about the month excited about the live stream excited about all of it I was thinking do we do

one more Barbie's world or alright look I have to do it as we're recording this today the my Beach Boys episode came out, my fantasy Beach Boys episode came out where I got to talk about all the weirdest Beach Boys music

that I was aware of until one that I became aware of today, a song that was packaged with California Dream Barbie dolls in 1987. Credit the the twitter account crazy ass moments in beach boys history which is a really good account in general um but this is from 1987 brian you get this with the barbie brian wilson solo the song living doll wow Living Doll. Wow. Hey Barbie Barbie, oh Barbie You're my California dream

Oh Barbie Barbie, hey Barbie You are yummy like ice cream Oh, what? You are yummy like ice cream. Like ice cream. Wow. You never want like ice cream. Like ice cream.

Wow. You never want to hear that. You don't? I don't know. I feel like you'd love it. I don't know if I want it from Brian Wilson in 1987. Maybe not from Brian Wilson. Maybe from Mike Love, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want somebody a little more sensual like Mike Love. Yeah, somehow he says it and he sounds furious. Let me lick ice cream. Eat you up. Forever. Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production.

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