Podcast: The Ride - Unlocked: Cybermania '94: The Ultimate Gamer Awards

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

Enjoy this sample of P:TR - The Second Gate. Find even more Second Gate episodes at Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Live from Universal Studios Hollywood! An awards show about video games from the era of NBA Jam and Myst. Hosted by Jonathan Taylor Thomas and Leslie Nielsen and featuring some of the biggest stars of the 90s. Like Robert Culp! Link to Cybermania ‘94: https://youtu.be/Af9M8llS9JA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 Hey, that little screen in front of you, it's not just for playing little ping pong games, okay? It's a cockpit on a jet fighter that's pointed at a place called the Information Superhighway. So if you're a cyber nut like me,

strap yourself in, hang on tight, and try not to wet yourself. That's my little intro. That's my little cyber intro for today's podcast. The podcast is about the cyber gate. I'm Scott Gairdner. Cyber Scott Gairdner. Mike, I don't know how to do this fast enough.

I'll just put all those. Mike Cyber. Yeah, yeah. Mainframe Mike Carlson. Great. Mainframe Mike Carlson. And Jason Superhighwayden. Why not?

Yeah. I was going to say jacked in Jason. Oh, that's good. Jacked in Jason. Well, that's the attitude. That's the grit.

That is the one that this, this special has that we're, we're talking about today. It seems very likely like one that you have not heard of, but we're excited to talk about it. It's called cyber mania 94, the ultimate gamer awards. And, uh, but we're excited to talk about it. It's called Cybermania 94, the Ultimate Gamer Awards.

And it is just, it is a wonderful two-hour mess of cyberpunk and hacker culture and that information superhighway shit and CD-ROMs and the future is here and the future is now and the craziest graphics and the most camera moves you've ever seen this this special is something this is a real time capsule will have a very specific type of 90s it's a mass this is a masterpiece hell yeah i'm so glad you feel the same way yeah as i kept saying today i watched honestly this morning i kept saying there's a

little treat for me around every turn yes yeah there's a new fun thing from all the different things that i like or i'm intrigued by all of a sudden it hits you as an old old actor that suddenly appears or his picture appears. There's a younger actor. There's all of a sudden, there's just some like completely head-scratching like little documentary in the middle of it about hackers. And you go, what is this?

It's just like every like, because you know, these things tend to like, anytime we've done like some one-off award show or whatever, you're like, there's some funny stuff in there and we like it. They can drag. It's great. But they can drag.

They certainly drag. And you try to like find the highlights. There was just one I already don't remember. This thing we're talking about today filmed at Universal Studios Hollywood. So you get your shots. You get your overhead helicopter shots, all that stuff. I like anything that was shot at Universal Hollywood in the 90s. But we just watched one that started so strong i forget what it was called even it was like some

olympics that included every kid from every show of that era all the tgifs and all the nickelodeons um and like the edit fox whatever so we're oh, we are amped on this thing. And then it just got a little boring. Like, of course it's exciting when they're playing games on the Miami Vice stunt show set. But after the fourth round of the same thing, you kind of know all the tricks up this thing's sleeve. Right.

This, we didn't finish it. We didn't finish. This thing, I cannot wait. It's around every turn. They keep spicing up. This is an innovative award show entertaining at all times yeah you're right it doesn't have one thing that it does oh it's just funny that it drags an old actor out we haven't seen no it does 10 it's got 10 moves if it's a ride i talk

about moments it are types of moments it has 20 types of moments an old person using technology terms wrong or clearly they're using the term and they don't know what they're talking about this happens regularly but that's not all it's so much more yeah uh-huh yeah an impersonator of a famous woman gets burnt in the face why what right you don't expect that i didn't when this thing came on i didn't think that would happen no you know i i when you first told us this uh i i think within 15 seconds of you saying it i went in i think when you told us the host i was like i'm on board and i was like and then you kept talking about it and i think at the time i was like oh i don't i think we're on board i don't think he has to sell it to and then i realized realized, looking back, I'm like,

I think you were just so excited but didn't want to spoil any of this because there's some stuff where I was like, not in a million years would I have expected some of these appearances by people who would be bigger, people who were big at the time, people who continue to be big. There's no way to predict. Like, if you're watching the mtv movie awards from the same year you maybe know who you're getting you know who was in big movies at the time or who was gettable or on mtv a lot this thing there's no way to predict if you

put a gun to my head at every every like before every presenter announcement and said name a thousand names i would probably not guess some of who's coming. I almost think that if you've made it this far here, go watch this. If you like watching this type of weird and old nostalgia type entertainment of something you never saw before, actually watch the whole thing before listening to us. Yes. This one's good. I don't think this is one where we're like rescuing the fun moments.

As we said, it doesn't really drag. It is really good. It's on YouTube. The user is learn to counter, easy to find. And I totally agree. So then this can be kind of a talk along. I absolutely agree. Go finish it.

Aaron felt that Aaron was devouring this thing. We could not wait. I'm so glad we have more ofouring this thing. We could not wait. I'm so glad we have more of this special left. We wanted to drag it out all week. Yeah. 17 notes. I want it like 17 bullet points in addition of clips.

I have so many clips. I have so many bullet points. I just kept writing down anything I was having a reaction to. And then I had to start formatting it. Cause I'm like, if I have to break this up or I'm going to forget. Yeah, I know know it's okay we're all coming in with the same energy it's a pile it's confused but just like the special itself it we should clarify it is two hours in the youtube video that includes the very good period appropriate 1994 commercials yes because they've been all related this is all about like a lot of it is video games so there will be awards given to games that you know or grew up with

unless you're younger than people at okay unless you're a certain age and then you don't know any of it but uh uh you know it's it's relatively accessible i think and the game the ads are for big games of the era, too. They're all playing, or just about computers, or about movies stemming from video game franchises. Which I forgot about. I somehow never saw that movie. Me neither.

I kind of want to do it. Yeah, I want to track it down. I've never seen either. Yeah, that is intriguing to me. Because I love those. I spent hours on those video games. Yeah. In that case, we could just spoil that one. is double dragon the movie with scott wolf and directed by a guy who directed most of the big phil collins music videos oh my god yes um i all the credits

were he directed dennis miller's stand-up specials it's an insane body of work i forgot his name by the way if we haven't helped this up you said dennis mill and i'm just like dennis miller comes up in this fucking thing like there's so many people who come up in this thing like i was saying before we started i i watched some of it yesterday and then i was going to bed and i saw i had watched 90 minutes and there was still 30 left and that was a negative thing i was just like i can't believe there's more like it's just kind of pummels you yes you're exhausted in a good way exciting thing theme park day well let me now attribute all of this excitement uh to one of our listeners one of our patrons robert denby

who um alerted us to this i don't think even in a pitching an episode way. I don't think that was the intent. It was related, honestly, to Charles Fleischer, who appears in this, and we'll get to that when it's his time. But we just talked about Charles Fleischer and the weirdness of Charles Fleischer when talking about another great special, the Disneyland 35th anniversary. And thank you, Robert, for the paragraph explaining everything that was to come. And I, it just like, the phrase Cybermania 94 just jumped out at me and like, huh?

Okay, that needs to be meditated on a little more. And within the, just to say some of what Robert said, and I'll let him introduce, really the first big notable stars who call to you. There's an amazing attempt at a video game award show called Cybermania 94, hosted by Leslie Nielsen and Jonathan Taylor Thomas. What?

Did AI create this for me to watch? That is exactly, that is something that we said. Like by the time a certain band who we talk about all the time appeared out of nowhere, Aaron and I said, I'm worried that we fell into an AI trap.

Yeah. And that it is being live created for us. And we especially started thinking that when an award was accepted and two names were said by whoever was accepting the award. And Aaron said, I know those names. My parents know those people. They were people like in the periphery of,

of Warner brothers. They were like media executives at the time. And they were thanked in a speech. And Aaron, uh, texted her mom and said do you know these people and one of them she said yes this guy really nice guy why are you asking is it because that person died last week huh what somebody that aaron has never mentioned or or

like once maybe has met like and this person passed away last week what do you mean that may that got me freaked out that is maybe we are and look robert thank you for this you're and your suggestion unless you are an ai creation who's trying to snare us in some kind of ai trap i don't think so i trust you you're a second game subscriber so i trust you or it's like it's like we are living in a simulation and the simulation realizes that we've kind of like we're getting towards the end of youtube crap that we haven't seen yeah it's like we gotta start just creating stuff for because they're gonna lose us we'll stop watching we're almost out we've almost fully uh this keg is tapped or so we think until

something like cybermania comes this is a trick by the google corporation giant net is going to come over this garage and get us shit shit well this is the kind of like cyber paranoia that much of the special uh warns about and that is the tone of a lot of the the games of this era um but uh let me uh we'll get back to leslie and jtt um but another thing robert said cyber mania 94 is a great time because it's trying to be a serious celebration of video games when a lot of people thought FMV was the future but it has kids choice award

sensibilities and bizarre interstitials to keep the audience's attention including a guy in a balloon suit who just wanders around stage while Leslie Nielsen is talking I yeah that's a great description why does that happen i've now that i've watched it i don't have any further understanding of why it happens no i because i was watching on my computer and i was like oh is there like a

famous person maybe and i looked and i was like i don't think so no and once his balloon is popped i didn't further recognize the balloon man. No, yeah. There are famous people later that do a little bit famous to me and Jason. I assume they would be. Yeah, not to me. Very excited. Again, that's a late period. I couldn't believe that bit. Third quarter, fourth quarter.

Oh, my God. They keep them coming. I got a clip from the last sentence that's said in this thing. It never stops. So thank you again,bert um and and robert mentioned something called fmv and i have to admit ignorance on this i didn't know what fmv was uh a phrase also used by my friend tyler who i sent this to was a big cd-rom guy who as he was watching this he's like i know every single game that is being played so he was excited

about it but i had to But I'm a dummy. I wasn't paying attention in this era. I feel like I missed the... Boy, I wish I knew the CD-ROM era better. But FMV is full motion video. And so while some of these are more typical games you know, like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat, there's also a lot of games that you've never heard of

because the CD--rom era ended not too long after this i guess just general kind of internet world superseded that and the cd-rom boom went bust but full motion video is like if it is interactive but there is also there are also videos usually very small in very tiny boxes and move the game forward if i am remembering correctly it moves very choppy like it looks a little it's very a thing that'll come up later it's very revolution x big time you know well and also like if you if you guys ever have you made gifs have you like gone in some gif creator program it's when you're like trying to make the file small and you have to limit colors. They kind of end up looking like this.

Like a lot, you can tell there is not the full wide range of color information that a usual video would have. I find the aesthetic very charming and I love seeing a big pile of that stuff here. Yeah, I do too. And I remember at the time being very uh like every people this would get people like if i was at a friend's house or they were at mine or it'd be in stores and we're like wow look a little movie on the computer uh yeah through like the 90s i think the idea was like okay this is the future of like video games and entertainment which i guess is sort of like a way to do vr which is just shooting It's not graphics, it's just actual video

Yeah Because like the Sky, we talked about the Scottie Pippen Sega CD game Which had a lot of like in, like actual shot footage of Scottie Pippen Right And I played a game called Star Trek Borg Which was just an episode of Star Trek Voyager essentially But then you would click on parts of the screen to decide what you were going to do Oh Was it good? essentially but then you would click on parts of the screen to decide what you were going to do oh so like good it was kind i mean it was kind of cool because it had john delancey who plays q and

he was like being like snarky toward you and then he'd ask you to do something or ask you what you wanted to do and you click around oftentimes i didn't know what i should be doing but it was still kind of cool to play like it did kind of live up to the idea of you're like in the game but ultimately i don't think ultimately it wasn't so satisfying for like versus a video game yeah it was an interesting time because like even watching this you can see people like what is a cd-rom like what how far can we push this should we try this should we try should we try more of these FMV videos or should we try more like gameplay gameplay yeah they're figuring it out and it's also a pretty crucial juncture one that I don't think I was fully aware happened which is

as with any big media trend when when do you pull the trigger and get celebrities in on this when do you start using recognizable actors and that's what happens here that's what's happening here and i don't know how long it lasted for but it really flashed me to how like it's really it's just like every flash in the pan thing there's always the like and it's it's gonna be the next big thing you'll see oh you'll see everybody's getting in on it whether it's going to be the next big thing. You'll see. Oh, you'll see. Everybody's getting in on it, whether it's when all the celebrities start doing podcasts and then abandon the field to die or NFT. No, it's all about NFT. And then by the end of the year, it's not even close to all about NFT.

We've lived through so many of the quibbies. It's going to be all about quibbies yeah uh all about videos you watch in the bank line and it just just reminds you like boy it's i guess it's been this way for a long time there's always an insane boom and then the technology is left standing and it just sort of becomes integrated in much more yeah somewhat reasonable way friendly yeah and like all of the things that are specifically for this media kind of fade away and die you can sort of feel it happen like i don't i don't think we're i think things will be happening with vr and oculus and all that but like i just remember a lot of people i knew took general meetings at some like we're no we're doing interactive comedy

videos for the oculus remember all those everybody yeah i do i'm sure you're all still in stitches that you're uh i don't even know if they got made though we're all re-watching them for sure dev of course with all these things well and as with your relatedly aesthetically and the era like disney quest you know of course you're going back you're definitely doing it again yeah of course um i i think well yeah we have seen a lot of these as you said nfts vr all of this we're seeing ai right now uh which uh is now become clear it kind of sucks it pretty much sucks and there's a big article i think just this week a giant article of the sheer amount of human labor that goes into quote-unquote training these vr systems oh okay are you or ai ai yeah was there an article about like ai school essentially i feel

like i saw it but didn't read it i think it's uh it's a thing where it's like being farmed out to other countries and it's like this computer isn't learning humans are doing massive amounts of data entry yeah to try and like get the gist of something but i'm sure those humans doing the data entry are being fairly compensated and treated well oh yeah pennies on the dollar that's a nice phrase right people say that in a complimentary way people love a penny it's lucky yeah we just i mean we i'm sure we've all seen the ai secret invasion credits which is like oh this looks like dog shit like this looks so always ugly and it's like this isn't ai is a new this so you're right i haven't thought about that and it's the crazy thing on that is that marvel has published countless comics

called secret invasion pages and pages of art that they could have just pulled from and it's just like oh no you got this weird goo art abstract muck yeah well to be fit look i from to my eyes the marvel films have always celebrated weird goo that's what every that's what every one of them is to me but you're right this is even worse looking goo than usual this is even worse and it's always funny when disney a company that's so like hyper focused on their image and their family friend and they're like they just step in it or it's just like you are missing the motion of the you're missing the ball so hard on this yeah yeah um well it's it's almost a relief to see this yeah in this ai era that suddenly that doesn't feel like you were not talking about ai all the time two months ago and now it is just

all that we i i hope that this is a a flash in the pan and look, I will admit, I don't like any of it, and we're fighting against it with the writer's strike right now, but would I like a fully AI-generated award show? Absolutely. Yeah. If only they would do something. If only there was something as fun and aesthetically bizarre as Cybermania 94. Yeah.

There's a couple i don't want to be in i'm not gonna be like i love ai or anything but there are some twitter accounts that make like fake ai 80s movies and i go have you seen these not those now i go well this looks good they're stills i mean they're stills but they don't look they don't look as gooey as what we're talking about with the secret invasion um but yeah there's select select ways that ai will just be in our lives within the next decade if we can have it around a little bit but kind of like supervised by smart people sure then that's that's how we should be doing it you can make uh online bill pay like a little less annoying like if you could just automate this you know sure yeah yeah i don't

want ai paying my bills but i don't either but i'm just like what if it's working to earn the money and pay your bills oh sure then maybe like the game what do they call that the games where like and you earn you earn money when you play this this mobile game oh yeah i don't know what are the well yeah i know what you're saying. I've seen those before, but I'm trying to find this AI just to see. They're called Sure Things is what they're called. The best investment you can make. My ticket to the top is what I like to call them now.

So, yeah. All right. This show, November 5th, 1994, a magical day, a magical evening. This is put together by the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences, which I guess is a real thing. It is still a real thing. I think they do a different award show now. They did not keep doing the manias. Apparently, there was a Cybermania 95, but it was broadcast online exclusively uh and it received much less

numbers than it reminds you of it is this not kind of like oh do the streaming movies not make us the same amount of money or get the same amount of eyeballs as the movies in theaters 290 million people watched red notice yeah yeah well that and spencer confidential definitely i saw that on the list i know we've all been talking about spencer confidential let's all just think about our favorite moment and star from spencer confidential a movie that we definitely know the existence of i mean robert just the name robert cope's gotta be in that too yeah he might be what is it oh my god it has uh well spencer is mark walberg and it has post malone as someone named squeeb it's also that feels very cd-rom to me it feels like the name the kind of generic title that feels like a movie but is a little bit off

and somebody with a weird uh uh you know bleep bloop kind of name. Yeah. They might have stolen it. It might have been a CD-ROM in development and Waldo stole it. Anyways. So this thing, I mean, if I was skeptical at all, my skepticism went away when I saw the first shot of the award show, which is the devil. it starts with the devil who like forms out of flame and you're like oh this is where we're starting this isn't some boring shot of the dorothy chandler pavilion you're kicking it off with the devil and then

you're and then immediately a title that says uh the gate to the mind's eye yes yes i love those mind's eye compilation these compilations of insane uh at the time cutting edge now a weird old cgi and then you just watch mind's eye stuff you watch a digital knight flying through a flying through a tunnel and he's like he's like kind of a floaty mermaid creature but the back half of his body are like chrome whisking tongs they're standing around it's the weirdest whoa all right we're off to the races here i love it it's still the future to me it's still real to me i know yes i i'm still i'm waiting i like i want the early 90s future and who could object to it? Why would you? I am surprised of all the apps I use on my phone. No one has tried a reminders app or a notes app or something that involves you soaring over a digital city.

You get to do that. It's like a big journey just to punch in dentist four o'clock. Yeah, milk, eggs, bread. big journey just to like punch in dentist four o'clock yeah milk eggs bread there was a whole everything i think starts out in a like oh we're gonna do it in a fun way and then it ends up just in like a very functional way which is almost like there was a program called microsoft bob in like 1996 or 70 you guys know what i'm talking about no microsoft bob was something that came with our computer and it was like an animated like living room and there was a little dog i think in the room i could be wrong but there was like a there was like i cut like cute icons and stuff and the idea was that you were gonna

like put your schedule in and you log on to microsoft bob and maybe put like a cd in a drive and log in click go into like the living room and then like you would like have all your stuff i'm misremembering some parts of it but that the basic gist of it was this like cute little way to organize your life we had something like because my family we we were like all right we're gonna get a home computer we're gonna commit to it you have to be very careful with this you got to be very respectful with this um uh my brother did do something to it that made it crash uh and eventually they got it working again um but it ran i believe it was windows 3.1 so right before windows 95 and it had a like very it had a different kind of home screen that you could toggle between different

icons or a house like each you would go through a house and each room would have like games software you know digital houses yeah so this is what i'm showing you guys right now you would go to this door and it would be like a knocker and there would be a little dog in the corner and that was your dog so that's your living room and then you know you'd go to this door and it would be like a knocker and there would be a little dog in the corner. And that was your dog. So that's your living room. And then, you know, you'd go to your letter writer. You could write a letter inside the program. Checks.

Your checkbook. Digital checkbooks. Your financial guide. You could go to an internet, like an explorer, a different. Yeah. You'd have a calendar. You'd have a clock. And it would all be.

A fireplace. You'd warm yourself at the digital fireplace and you could like customize i think the room a little a little bit this dog's giving you tips and hints yes so this was all like okay so we're gonna make all of this sort of functional stuff fun and you're gonna go into your little digital room but of course after a few years people like this a lot of work to yeah i should wind up just go straight to my calendar calendar by the way your brother did he break the computer by creating the babe of his dreams within the digital realm and then putting on his helmet and then like getting getting all the cyber way with her and then the computer burst into steam and smoke

no i think he just typed something in dos uh ms dos oh damn uh yeah no unfortunately no cyber babes yeah um okay so intro has happened and then we enter the stage and it's at universal hollywood it's in the conan the barbarian stage uh much like horror hall of fame and they use it uh it's it's like most of that stage is just kept in text. So there's big like stone snakes and there's lasers and there's big chuggy rock music. And we welcome our hosts, Leslie Nielsen and Jonathan Taylor Thomas, like both in tuxes.

I like that, that it's all this like, but then still just tuxedos for everybody right and it's also the oldest man that's the youngest actor yeah i mean i guess walter mathau and jack lennon are still alive but he's you know he's 70s at this point picture of mathau hosting this yeah yeah but the biggest movie star the biggest old movie star and one but the biggest movie star, the biggest old movie star, and one of the biggest young movies. These are movie stars. They really got relevant. This is the year of The Lion King.

Naked Gun still right in the rear view. Yeah. I think it's a great host. Love the host. Yeah. Them together is very funny. The classic comedy duo. I don't know if there's any particular chemistry, but I do like watching them together. very funny the classic comedy duo i don't know if there's any particular chemistry

but i do like watching them together anti-chemistry i'm sure they got along sure yeah they do a good job individually like it makes sense yes jtt is so slick he is so slick together charming kid his tux looks cool he's got this kind of like southwest tie cut yeah i'm talking about how i gotta i gotta wear a tux finally at a wedding soon i might go in and say hey give me the jtt jtt jtt i will say this has so much inherent charisma and we haven't talked a ton about jtt i will say if you were just listening to his delivery, he does have sort of like a bad early 90s kid delivery as far as things. Da-da-da-da-da-da.

Da-da-da-da-da-da. It's so funny now because now I feel like any kid actor has to be able to enunciate perfectly. They're like these Disney Channel star kids. They sound like adults. There's none of that weird like that's as charming as a kid can be right now you're just you got to be right at right to it you have to be just as good as an adult delivering comedy and pausing yeah knowing what to do but yeah jtt i was like oh yeah i can see jtt's charisma here but he sounds like a kid doing an award show it makes me miss that though it makes

me miss the the kid charisma ceiling we used to allow this and i think we drive kids crazier making them go above the ceiling of course because they have to like be adults or much earlier yeah yeah too much well they're also like also kids are just on youtube and like yeah extremely popular on youtube when they're six in certain cases or younger, probably. Yeah. Yeah. They get very polished at a very specific type of delivery.

Yeah. Some of it, some of it's okay. Some of them are pretty good. Yeah. A lot of them are good. And then some of them do transition to like actual act. Like I,

uh, they were already actually acting probably, but like timothy chalamet wasn't one of his big things was reviewing like xbox game controller maybe i don't know something like that yeah can we look at that you can find it much old chalamet wow sure hmm what was this like tim um it's timo three and then it's the two e's but they're backward they're threes i would love it when he was i didn't know he was a content creator i didn't know that either wow just like us yeah okay well there's hope for him starting really young and really handsome and there's hope for us

yeah we're a couple years now younger than he is when he started yeah the okay and then uh and now to boot up cybermania 94 a very special guest please welcome the first lady of the united states and then a hail of the chief plays and then a a hillary clinton look-alike comes out and she tries to hit a button on a computer on a big desktop computer that will start cybermaniaia but leslie notices that it is not plugged in and i'm loving this because this is some classic naked gun yes you can tell us exactly what they're going like it was always impersonators of the big public figures right love this live on a stage at universal studios love it so he plugs in a wire and you

can't really tell what's wrong with it in particular, but maybe it's a surge. There's too much power all at once because after kind of an odd delay, then there's a big explosion that's kind of clunky and seems to just actually hurt the lady playing the first lady. Yeah. Yeah. It's very just like, it's, it's kind of alarming, I would say in a not funny way and she real quickly turns around and smears like grease paint on her face to like get the cartoon bomb yeah effect yes yes

i do like i like that since everybody's fine i'm allowed to like it but it is but the way just how how big it is and how close it is to her for a minute you're like is this just the was this a bunch of people who hate Hillary? Is this just like, we're going to, what if we burn up Hillary on the stage? I mean, I guess that's what they were going for. I don't know if they hated her at the time, but certainly they felt like she was a funny celebrity to hurt. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess she's only mildly hurt. Cartoonishly. Yeah. Wile E. Coyote style yeah yeah yes this is later the venue for the bill and ted uh topical show where you could see it going further where

i don't know what would it have been like that well you know that she gets like caught in a sharknado yeah that's better yeah or like and it's then some sharks went down on her. Leslie Nielsen swings his arms too wide and he's holding a club, the car safety feature. And he like smacks her off the stage with a club. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Oh, they should have, yeah.

If the plugging in didn't work and then the backup was the clapper, but the clapper is too powerful. Oh, clapper is real good. Yeah. Mm-hmm. What if Angelina Jolie came out and she stuck her leg out from the Oscar dress and tripped her? How about that?

The famous leg. Yeah. You remember. That is inaccurate, what Bill and Ted would have done. Yeah. Oh, and then we do get a very good, then things kind of taper off and Leslie Dillson says, I sure hope she has health insurance. Hello?

And then they introduce the show and there's so much smoke from that gag that you can't quite see them and they can't quite see the screen. And what you get here is really, you know what, why this is such a great use of Leslie Nielsen is now we've, you know, he's becoming a little too aware, like an AI who's learned too much. By the end of, by Naked Gun 3, we've gotten progressively broader every time. And I still like Naked Gun 3. But, you know, there's a little bit of a taper in in how much they work because he's he he starts to think i'm funny and he and which is making silly faces and and being a little too broad and then once he's out of the zucker realm and we're doing spy hard and wrongfully accused we're way off the the map it's not working anymore but here we've put leslie nielsen right back where he belongs which is reading a bunch of stuff he doesn't really understand yes yeah so he's funny again

yes and he tried like he kind of like smiles and laughs sometimes at the awkwardness too but yes he is completely out of his depth here in regards to the all the subject matter that he's talking about i'm gonna i'm gonna play a clip clip that refers to something we'll loop back to, but just as an example of that. I hope it's the one I have. This is one of Leslie's introductions. Viva Las Vegas! The city of Las Vegas is now shedding its gambling image

for one of computer gaming. From two-bit hoods to gigabyte hard drives, from colorful sociopathic characters like Bugsy Siegel to colorful sociopathic characters like Goro the Monster. Rough evening.

Yep. Goro the Monster. Gigabytes. Hard drives. hard drives gigabytes changing it's from cable to for gamble gambling to i mean it is it's and we've just done naked gun three where the oscars get mucked up because he's doing everything and he's phil donahue and he can't read the teleprompter like it's that live on stage it's great right he's trying to get the words right yeah yeah absolutely not working also i like that they oh sergio paris the character is like bugsy seagull i think bugsy seagull had been dead for a good 40 or 50 years at that point well

yeah he's a classic reference yeah that was i'm saying he's saying now that used to be bugsy seagull now it's goro the monster goro the monster the monster is as iconic was as iconic then as spencer confidential is today so the spencer confidential of its era do you know what goro the monster is goro is from mortal combat oh he's the four you see okay oh so it's not a las vegas thing that's them saying that now that there's gaming in vegas that now that we don't think of bugsy we think of goro yeah have you ever seen the first mortal kombat uh no that feels like you should see that too the movie yeah okay i think you should see it

i think you would like it yeah yeah because it's got christopher lambert just doing this voice the whole time and he's got a funny wig on and goro is the bad guy there's shang tsung and goro and i only know really og moral combat stuff but goro has four arms or six arms i forget i forget he's got four or six arms and he is a puppet he's a giant puppet so like it kind of doesn't work and you they clearly have to work the fight like around his limitations so johnny cage who's like the cool actor guy fights goro and it's gross he's goro is gross goro's hideous oh boy yeah i think you would really i think you there's there would be stuff in there you would like i got a double feature with double dragon maybe oh yeah yeah that's perfect yeah yeah that's really good as

if i can watch two movies in a row and you might have lost that ability with parenting uh i that mortal combat brings up a good point which is a hell of a year for video games but the ones that i don't know about you but i would say are like foundational games that people still go back to or get on other platforms stuff that's mentioned like mortal combat nba jam doom those don't sweep these awards yeah true and that yeah big ones are up for these like the big ones that are nominated are yeah still feel like they they loom really large and yeah yeah it's a lot of a lot more obscure ones that's definitely true moral combat is 100 mortal kombats a new moral combat like one is announced where it's like almost a prequel i think to the whole mortal kombat okay so that yeah the lasting power of some of these

things is pretty crazy for them yeah not to the big ones are the the best game award nominees are are doom nba jam mortal kombat, Super Street Fighter 2, and Myst. And Myst was obviously very of its era, but we all know it, I feel like. That's like the one. I didn't play a lot of these, but I remember Myst. I couldn't tell you one detail about it, but I remember the vibe. I remember getting very lost in it. And that's sort of like, I don't know, that CD-ROM feeling of just like wandering and there's sort of like that i don't know that what that cd-rom feeling of just like

wandering and there's objects and uh and mist it was the the mist was good and it gave you texture gave you mystery yeah i think i have it on my laptop you can buy it in the apple app store oh really like five bucks or something you can buy it for like a tenth of the price or something wow wow um well um i mean what this whole thing is about is really just introducing you to opening you up to that it's it's not just games you know there there's there's so much that uh the consoles can do and computers can do and a lot of this is conveyed with an extremely inexplicable piece uh hosted by by a poor man's dennis leary i say that but with both the guy in mind and also the style i mean every interstitial video piece in this thing it is like

it is the camera is always zooming the camera is always shaking. It is always dutching there. It's that thing where it flips around and then there's a color tint on the other side and there's a sound effect for everything. Sometimes it's like a Hanna-Barbera and then like stock footage will illustrate something and old bomb going off. It's the most, this is such a celebration of hyperactive editing. Yeah. And I almost feel like this is the like sometimes you

see parodies of it and then you watch something old and you go oh i can see it's maybe not as extreme as i remember it not this whole special this whole special is like so aggressively that style of 90s in your face yeah like this is the most 90s thing i can recall watching in a way yes yeah yeah so relentlessly 90s but not in that really specific it's it's like dark grimy 90s it's sometimes you can there's this like if you were doing you know 90s night on the cruise ship you might be like a more neon saved by the bell thing right but i remember a lot of this i definitely remember a lot of like the internet is coming, computers are coming, and it's scary, and it's like olive green,

and we're zooming in and out, and we're not just filming a person. We're filming the monitor with a feed of the person, and we're zooming in and out of that. We're like, it's about media and multimedia, man. Yeah. Sitting in a CompUSA staring at like a display computer that is just you're not going to be able to do with this but the display computer is just playing a loop okay you're not

going to be able to touch that now like that will do nothing it's just set to play this loop of zooming over a digital city okay yeah yeah and it's gonna cost thousands of dollars for you to get anywhere near this but buckle it because it's coming it is coming saying if you're not right you know you can't afford it right now but when it when it is here if you're not ready you're fucking you're dead you're gone kill you you don't understand this advertising you will be ordered into comp usa and you will be put into some kind of machine and you will be sliced to bits it's another thing where it's like we're trying to sell you on the idea of like what the internet will do what can do and video games uh what future video games you'll play

and it's like by the way they're gonna kill you you're fucked do you understand that the internet's coming and we will dismember you you don't know yeah yeah yes uh and how any of this was supposed to if really what needs the like hurl it needs to be gotten over is your parents buying a computer cyber mania 94 is not gonna help no it's gonna keep them scared yeah really uh this the first psa really is a couple things one it seems like it's about to tell you not to huff paint like and you don't want to huff paint that'll damage your brain like uh the other thing is it's got this insecurity like video games and comic books they have never shaken this where they're still doing like and we're not just for

kids anymore you know yeah yeah it's there's a lot of pr going on during this award show they view this as the big like public coming out for our industry so we got a lot to explain yes and i think yeah with video games like video games still video games pro wrestling there's all these different things that are still thought of as like porno in a way when like especially video games is like way more successful than movies and tv billions of dollars money and the amount of like different things like rules union stuff that should now be implemented for the video game industry yeah like from people who actually program stuff to the voice talent and writers and stuff.

I hear that there's some video games that have actually been played more than people have watched Spencer Confidential. Really? Seems impossible. Like that doesn't add up in my head. That's weird. It doesn't sound right, but I guess.

Yeah, it doesn't sound right. Here's some of this Leary-esque man. There's a whole universe of interactive media available today that'll let you do anything from learning French to piloting a starship. We, the people of this show, must try Spock bones, please. Shatner. Great.

Stellar Shatner. Perfect. We've all heard him talk. That is exactly how he talks. Yes. Did he dub that part? Yeah. That also, that's all like a black and white and with a blue tint and then a boxing ring.

And that tone you just heard, listener, imagine that for five straight minutes. So impressive. That is such a long piece. At some point, there's a reference to how like, to be that you'd play a video game console or arcade game for 25 cents a pop. And then two pieces of toast come out of a toaster and 25 cents is burnt into the toast. What is this? A shoot had to be done for that? That's just one little part.

They had to get the little kitchen corner and the toaster. And that's just one of 500 cutaways in this entire thing this is so you compare this to an episode of comedians and cars getting coffee and you know you can see the straight line from how we got there with all those inserts of the coffee being made and you know this is obviously like they started in a more aggressive place now Now it's in a very calming place. Now it's to calm you. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. These cutaways are like as they feel as related as the coffee that Jerry and friends aren't drinking. Of course. Stars start to appear. Well, can I say, did they put this impression in on purpose?

Oh, yeah. I don't oh yeah i don't know i don't know because bill shatner william shatner is doing the voiceover on this special when he announces categories that is the part i didn't want to tell you guys i wanted you to learn that uh to experience that on your own i got so excited when i heard the man he's never really and now he's uncredited never it's just a subtle thing that it's Shatner reading a bunch of copy, a little like one sentence explainers of video games, and he sounds angrier and angrier as this goes on. A lot of the onstage, the presenters, feel like they have contempt in their voice.

They do, they don't understand it. And you get your gigabytes and modems. Like, you know, they didn't get prepped at all. Like, you know. Can we just do a little of William Shatner announcing the best portable nominees, please? Because this is just so, I love this. There's a couple of great things about this.

Can we hear that? The nominees for the best portable are Aladdin. Join one of Disney's most popular characters on a breathtaking journey through fire, sand, and air. Wario Land. Super Mario Land 3. Wario Land Super Mario Land 3 Wario

Super Mario And he's charging by the hour No life to this He's charging by the hour Just don't worry he does Hold on let me see if he gets Oh skip to He announces then Home Alone And then he says the wrong name just don't worry he does uh hold on let me see if he gets oh skip to uh

he announces then home alone and then he says the wrong name for you know what i'm talking about no no no play it game boy donkey kong he announces this game as game boy donkey kong game boy donkey that is not the name of the game but it's probably how it was listed but nobody corrected him just snip that out there's a number of times where the reading of the nominees and the text on screen do not match yes uh and so yeah he is just he sounds madder as them they can they go along there's one where you can feel the very like the like annoyingness of the copywriting like he has the right energy for some of it like the the line he

says in that one is he's big he's mean and he eats bananas nuff said they made him say nuff you got an esteemed actor made him say nuff i feel like i've i've talked to someone who has directed i've talked to a couple people who've directed him and can you imagine that he is somewhat of a difficult well have you heard the outtakes oh wait what is that famous outtakes oh i uh i think it's a documentary of some kind yeah uh you see yeah it's incredible i mean he's just i think he's a guy Who doesn't suffer Fools and just wants to Do his thing and not be Noted and he is very Aware that there is a thing that you

Want out of him and the thing is This I do Shatner Do that shit thing that is not real So he has to deal With directors who probably won't Look him in the eye because they grew up watching Him and like could you There's that thing where your voice kind of goes up and down and you are a little stilted oh stilted am i is that what you want me to be that's what the outtake is the

guy tries to know him i've seen it but i don't remember guys should maybe i'll just i'll play it and i'll cut it if it's if it doesn't go, because I don't have it perfectly queued up. Yeah, yeah. It's so wonderful. Yeah. Okay, I'll cut this. This is William Shatner, and I would like to invite you to take a journey with me into the 21st century. So take the next few minutes and listen very closely. You'll be amazed at what you hear. Okay?

Can there be a little more excitement in the beginning? Oh, it's so scary. It sounded like really super laid back. Well, I'm saying, okay, I'll try and do that. That's two take two. This is William Shatner, and I would like to invite you to take a journey with me into the 21st century. So take the next few minutes and listen very closely. Well, speak up.

And maybe you better do it the way you hear it. Do it for me. No, I mean, just... Don for me no i mean just don't give him a read don't give him a read he's asking him though he's trapped to take a journey with me into the 21st century so take the next few minutes and listen very closely you'll be amazed at what you hear is that the way you'd like me to do it? Okay, ready. This is William Shatner. And I would like to invite you to take a journey with me into the 21st century. So take the next few minutes and listen very closely. You'll be amazed at what you hear. Okay, I think that came pretty close.

This is the scariest shit. No, no. I believe that you asked that was about the way you did it. I wasn't jesting. God, this isn't worth it. Move on. I insist.

Now, what I want you to do is on pay. Is that satisfactory to you? Maybe I should have just kept my mouth shut. No, because if your mouth were open, you'd have popped some pills in them. So do the next paragraph for me, page two. Well, I don't know. I really don't want to. Because I think you actually have a much better view.

No, I don't think I do. I would like to hear you read the second paragraph so I can do it that way. You know, I really, you know, now that I've looked at the different different things you did i really like the first one no i like it better the way you did oh please read play all right so i can get all right that's uh yeah i think that's his thing he like tries to he tries to snare you yeah you'd be'd be like, he presents a little, like a pit for you to fall in. Yes. I think I heard a story where he like did an entire session with a Scottish accent to see as like a test to see like,

will this person stand up to me and tell me not to do a Scottish accent? If he's a man, he will. Everyone hates him. The original Star Trek cast, Walter Koenig a couple days ago uh who played checkoff on the original star trek tweeted about how he liked william shatner's performance on boston legal but the first part of the tweet said bill shatner is not a friend ah but geez he had to say that he had to say it i guess not say it yeah so um here's i don't think he's right

to behave that way but those first two takes he did were pretty good i know yes that shows you why not to to give the line reading he's a pro oh that is why did he why did that guy fall on that trip uh here's this is my favorite uh thing he says in the show return to zork your world is falling apart and everyone is counting on you yeah very good save the underground return to zork return to zork return to zork just shatner saying wario yes i'm like this is worth the whole special yeah i didn't know that william shatner's ever said wario. And he said Mario. He's one of the guys that say Mario Brothers. He says Wario, but then Mario. Yeah.

So that, you can sense him getting testy as it goes on and probably like, we already did a return to Zork. We'll know this is for the graphics. We're honoring the graphics. Oh, very well. Well, let's do another Zork then. You can really see.

I wish they had the outtakes of that. Zork gets a couple nominations. Yeah, Zork then. You can really see. I wish they had the outtakes of that. Zork gets a couple nominations. Yeah, Zork was looming large. I was trying to figure out what was up with Zork. It has Robin Lively and Jason Hervey from The Wonder Years. Of course, yeah. Oh, wait. And I forgot.

I totally forgot. I have a clip of Zork. This is a part of Return to Zork where you enter a building that is labeled Old Mill and then this happens. Who are you? Don't matter. Want some rye? Of course you do. You're given the opportunity

to accept some rye whiskey from a hillbilly in a digital room. In this clip, the person just keeps accepting rye over and over so it's just what's the bra of course you do what's the bra so that's something that happens in return to zork can we get return to zork on steam i gotta see yeah maybe maybe where they could download it on switch my switch is there a return to Return to Zork? Some other things. Some of the bigger presenters of that particular award,

Matthew Perry and the next Karate Kid, Hilary Swank. Yes. Soon to be Oscar winner. Really funny. Another thing about this award show that is unique, the winners are read off of Newton. The Newton. The Newton.

I freaked out when I, I didn't realize it at first and then someone said it and i was like oh my god that is a newton these weird little these it's like an early what's an early apple device and it has like a lid that has to be lifted yeah yeah and then once charles fleischer gets up there he he ruins the whole thing and says that the screens don't work and it's just written on tape so it's just a necessary product tie that the screens don't work and it's just written on tape so it's just a necessary product tie-in that doesn't work and they kept it in yeah they did which is every bit of i well i think i think at some point this was a live broadcast because

there's too many screw-ups and they say taped in an earlier time which means that it aired live somewhere once right and then but there's too many weird lags for it not to be otherwise they didn't cut it um uh the newton uh there was a bunch of generations of it but it was like apple's uh answer to the palm pilot yeah you know um i was reading on the newton uh wikipedia and came across this one which has come up recently in the 1995 under siege to dark territory the main character casey ryback steven seagal of course connects an apple newton pda to the telephone network of the hijacked train on which the film is set and sends a fax to his workplace which is then forwarded to admiral bates ryback's

contact at the pentagon wow wow the iconic film an iconic character even more than spencer used a newton on film wow yeah um well this was a big era for the newton big tv placement big film placement uh held by hillary swank yeah uh it was quite a time to be a newton um this is also it's a big um it's a big night for a bunch of people you've never heard of because i mean i understand this is going to be like game developers and software people but they all kind of come up and are mostly not id'd and they don't say who they are what they are to the games up there i don't know or like do that little accepting for doom because otherwise it's doom and you go hell yeah i can picture doom blood doom is cool and then just some guy gets up doesn't explain why he's important to Doom, just talks, isn't interesting.

I guess it's almost like, did somebody just literally go, well, should we put their names up? And somebody goes, no one's going to give a shit. Who cares? Like, what else would be the explanation? I don't know. Every other award show has a title. A chyron. Yeah, a chyron saying something.

They had already sent Shatner home for the day. And they're like, oh, shit, we forgot to have him read the names of the nominees. And he's saying something. They had already sent Shatner home for the day, and they're like, oh shit, we forgot to have him read the names of the nominees, and he's already mad it was a cold lunch and not a hot lunch. Hey, can we give you a call if we need? No. No, you can't.

No. Don't even finish the sentence. Don't call me for anything. When you just provide a club sandwich, that's what you get. I've mentioned many times, I'm in many, many different Facebook groups where I lurk, and I forget which Star Trek-based one it is, where all these people were talking about going months ago to meet Shatner at a con,

and you could see the fear or you could read the fear in everyone because they were like, you know what? He wasn't so bad like every every comment when people were terrified to pay 250 dollars and walk by him and take a photo and say something he actually was nice he asked me what my name was like all these comments were so sad because of the reputation he's got for being such a pain in the ass the best he gets is actually it actually was pretty good actually he said he looked me in the eye he did basic human pleasantry okay um the i played earlier this viva las vegas but the aftermath of that is something that happens a couple of times in this special it is it becomes clear that

we are not just watching one outpost of Cybermania at Universal City. Cybermania has spread across the nation. And our first stop is Las Vegas. And specifically to somewhere called Virtual Land at the Luxor. Wait, let me remember where this... Okay, this is him. This is... You have the intro?

Further intro. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's here. Tell me if I don't have what you have. But this is some JTT taking you somewhere. Now, first up is a brand new virtual landluxer hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada, where Sean Alex Thompson, star of the new series, The News, is standing by with some avid gamers.

Pause. Pause. Hi, we're here at the virtual land at the world-famous Luxor Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada, where, as the name implies, it's virtually a land filled with every conceivable interactive and video game known to man. But we're all presently glued to the TV here. A lot of us here are watching what?

Not a video game! no cue needed there behind me are a lot of a lot of cyber cyber punks i guess you'd call them yeah you definitely know you definitely call them that yeah a bunch of cyber cyber punks and this is there's all these correspondents who do these pieces from different arcades, none of whom, the kids do not really give them the time of day. They don't know what it is. Especially in this case, they all just stay with their backs turned, playing the games, don't acknowledge that they're on television or the television host behind them. There's this old square bothering them where it's like,

I am almost done. Stop. I've almost done. Stop. I've almost beat Goro. I'm at Goro. Get off my back. I got Goro. Goro the monster's here. I'm defeating him.

Fuck off, turtleneck. This guy's probably 36, whoever that guy is. You're ruining the kids. You could not know less of what he's talking about. You could not have more disdain for this job oh he really hates it right after that he makes a joke about um this this kid's playing nba jam we're probably next up is going to be nhl jelly i bet uh probably and there's no response to that it gets what it deserves that that joke um by the way he's from a series called the news as jtt says that apparently

was a syndicated sketch show filmed at universal florida in this era right then wow and uh that that show aired nightly that was a nightly sketch series uh there are some clips with the worst audio you've ever heard a couple people have preserved it because who's aligned cast member brad sherwood is on it um uh but otherwise i don't think this is a particularly well-received show now hold on that's the news with a z i should say by the way if you're looking at and he is at the very new luxor hotel in las vegas he is not at universal florida but there is a segment from universal florida later oh yeah yes yeah yeah because cyber mania is there they got to go to the east coast

it's spread over there i think most of the arcades shown in the special closed i don't think many of them made it yeah this is this particular one luxor virtual land of luxor closed in in 98 uh um oh also i forgot there's also that one of the kids who barely turns around to acknowledge him says i know all right now what does that do do what would you just do there that uh i think this is about nba jam uh what is that little plus up he did do and the guy just says like uh it makes you it makes you have special people and he just has to move on from what is that i have no idea what that means um it's we've talked about this before where you watch mask singer and it's like that feels like ai generated in a lot of way

too because it's been edited to death yeah to the point of just like nothing feels real at all yeah things have been cut and sweetened and the disney specials like that and stuff like the recent just nowhere they're out and then this thing is a complete opposite you'd think they want to prep a kid maybe for one or two of the interviews yeah really just like have a couple on hand yeah we talk to them they know what they're gonna say the local news does that yeah the local news gets a person and then they cut and they ask or or it's a pre-tape like it's weird that that would be the case they would just just, ah, we'll wing it. Oh, I was going to say, the one from Universal Florida, I think because the presenter or the man on the street person, I don't even know what to call them,

the correspondent is relatively young and, like, a pretty lady and just knows, like, all right, where are you from right where are you from where are you from where are you from like she just keeps it talking about andy carvalho's jason i yeah in orlando i don't remember who that well the one in paramas new jersey something else i don't know i wrote down their throat the throat to her like we go live to andy carvalho's in in Orlando, Florida for this report from the Namco Cybertainment Coney Island Arcade. What a mealy-mouthed thing. That's so crazy. Namco Cybertainment.

She mostly gets lucky with the charisma of her kids. But then there's this kid in a shirt that says, Jesus Freak. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, cool. She says, who do you think is going to win tonight? And he says, me! She says, no! What video game do you think is going to win tonight? And he says, me! She says, no! What video game do you think is going to win?

And he doesn't know what to say to that. And she has to keep asking a couple times. Yeah. That's a good segment, though, I think. That's a much, much better segment than the other one. Yeah, yeah. She gets more out of it. A better segment, but the first jump, like, what did they say?

I had to go back. It was the paramus new jersey we now cut to will arnett you know i said it yeah well i was just gonna say jason any carvalho it sounds like jason has a little crush on andy carvalho that's all i uh i want to say well you know i just think she did a good job because she was not a tight water and a turtleneck or a very overwhelmed will Arnett that seems like he's about to be absorbed in a crowd. I wasn't saying you were being bad.

I'm just saying. It's all right. You're going to have a crush on Andy Carvalho. You're going to have a crush on 1994 Andy Carvalho. That's peak Andy Carvalho. We're here live in Paramus, New Jersey. I'm Will Arnett. Sounds older.

And we're at one of the biggest arcades in America and also one of the loudest. Sports World here in Bramus, New Jersey. Has also closed. It's a little unruly here. Now, who's going to win for best game tonight? I feel like it's... The way he's talking...

It feels like Arnett, before he developed the character, before he figured out that, like, if I'm just this guy yelling that's funny yeah i just he just is this right now well it's it's so much angrier than like you know eventually he would settle on this and this is the guy kind of more delivery and they say we're hearing like he's got this like much deeper like bass aggressive bass sort of in his voice that like what he was then was he he's just a hosty guy i guess i was shocked because yeah i was like i really he was not on my radar before arrested development at

all i've seen him uh doing a live report from woodstock 94 that's the other early will arnett i've seen he's in i think a couple episodes of the sopranos oh i think he's an fbi guy wow so yeah he's like what 24 here he's really young yeah yeah um still got that bronze he's these looking bronzes ever sure he also then there's this thing that they make all of these arcade correspondents do which is they give them exclusive tips that you're only going to see here uh so be sure to remember this from this live broadcast write this down assuming that you own the game so let's let's put these correspondents into loud rooms with uncooperative children and make them say big mealy-mouthed game tips and that's what this arnett part is use the standing hard punch that always gets bill Lee. Now, secondly, to finish the Shadow Master,

you have to use the standing hard kick. You know, the Shadow Master can't fight the standing hard kick. And third, to finish the ice pick, you've got to use the crouching medium punch. I don't know. This is better than the standing hard kick. The crouching medium punch gets him every time, and that's all I can tell you about tips on on uh double dragon

and then they start rebelling again we've been quiet for too long the kids are about to kill me meet me alive i'll be i gotta go dump him in the pine barrens they they did the kids did successfully eat much of his bronze skin and what we see now In Will Arnett That was reconstructive That's all been added Since this This deadly day Tasted like coconut oil Delicious

That's what helped them That's what helped them Swallow it They wouldn't have gone Through it so fast Otherwise This is so funny too Because I think JTT

Gives a Like a Cheat code tip At some point During the thing Live on You know the feeder But that is at least not that i

think that's a good idea in the way they did it but at least that's a simpler way here willard is like telling you an elaborate way to like beat a boss in a game and it is not easy to convey because at least you could say oh it's you know the famous konami code up up left up up down down left right left right uh a b b a b a b a start whatever that sort of nintendo land the old days that's all catchy you know yes some but it's like a little cheat code makes sense but this is just like and then you're gonna the the medium punch you're gonna use a medium punch because you can't deflect against it and make sure that you're you're crouching before you hit him with that punch.

So if you're a kid, you're like, I got to get a piece of paper. You don't have a DVR. No one's taping this. I'm a man. Scream to tip at me. Everyone was screaming, but the loudest screamer screamed to tip at me. I'm going to do a run through of Mario 3, the first level for you. Okay.

Make sure you're writing this down. It's the second level of boxes. It's not not one of the one i'm not talking about clouds those are by those are clouds not boxes i know they have faces but they're actually there's more i call them clouds tanuki suit what is that the tanuki looks kind of like a raccoon but it's not it's not a raccoon it's tanuki and that's on the third question block like this is just not the venue yeah not the venue to be doing this also a not the venue yeah not the venue to be doing this also a questionable tip because like double dragon especially the early ones there was only like three or four attacks you could do like i feel like if the ones don't work

out you just try the other one yeah you know so uh yeah insane thing to make people do on live television the the thing where you mentioned where JTT, part of why he gives a tip is that it's kind of covering for Leslie to get back into the theater because there's this sketch. And if you're craving theme park content, this is the theme parkiest thing that happens that Leslie Nielsen's doing like a segue and then a loud car

alarm goes off and like oh what's that i think that's mine i better go and he why he does a big long walk backstage and then he finds doc brown leaning on a delorean theme park doc brown off brand doc brown another thing with that that we didn't know existed and uh he says hey get off of that that's my that's my car you're gonna scuff it and then but and then he hears gunshots and leaves that so the car isn't that's the end of the car bit that no more of that really what it's all been about is to get him into the arena of the wild wild wild west stunt show a rare universal thing we haven't covered yet um and he leslie while naked guns sounded like music plays he does all of the bits you can do at that stunt show so which is pretty much just he's firing a gun at cowboys to trigger their stunts

yeah all the yeah the fall big fall fall the Buster Keaton trick of the front falling. Which I like to see him do. Seeing Leslie Nielsen, a physical comedy master, do that. So that's cool. What does it have to do with video games, you might ask? I don't know. Don't know. But it's also nice to not get lectured for a minute.

That's true. To just, like, watch something without dialogue. That's true. This is a dialogue-heavy thing, for sure. I also want to point out that off-brand Doc Brown does not speak. No! I'm assuming they would have to pay him more if he said a line. That's got to be a pay issue.

Yeah, yeah, big time. It's just very funny to see a silent Doc Brown. Yes, famously man of few words with a chill energy duck brown so then he finishes that and then jtt says now there's a guy really knows how to get into the battle mode by the way here's a tip if you're playing more combat 2 on super nintendo and just does a big tip um i so that all there's a big i do like seeing 90s universal preserved by that a little preserved like that um i i skipped past something that is okay so um jtt introduces somebody named jeff lebowitz who comes out on stage he's a real guy from the academy that is putting this together and then he does backstage bits and his biggest backstage bit

is that uh well it revolves around sim city another big iconic game of the era and uh up through today and there are two computers with sim city backstage this is this special really won my heart at this point there's going to be a sim city duel that happens and the duel is between a real mayor of a city not a sim city but a real mayor of a real city, the mayor of Santa Barbara, Hal Conklin. And then, going up against him, the smartest kid in America, Michael Kearney. So, Michael, no further explanation. What does that mean? What do you mean the smartest kid in America?

By what metric? Smartest kid in America? I guess. That's a heavy thing to download really fast and then just move into a skit. But that's him. thing to download really fast and then just move into a into a skit but that's him i looked him up apparently he uh had a college degree at 10 years old he was the youngest college graduate of all time yeah that's who we're talking to there um and he does a bit about how he wants to be a game show host and really why do you want to do that well the models are pretty pretty okay um i found out that this kid actually did get his after this got his wish of auditioning to be a game show host and they ran a test game

show and what they found is the contestants did not like when a kid was smarter than them yeah so the show was never made oh he did go on to win money on a number of game shows. Oh, he became a contestant. Yeah, he became a contestant. The funniest bit of his Wikipedia entry, in 2018, he was working for an improv theater group in Nashville. That's what he used his brain on? Yeah.

No smart person should ever veer into the improv comedy path he was homeschooled and then he got degrees at very young ages and i just think it's very impressive again like an ai or like he grew it in a lab somehow they find a way to make improvisers more socially male adjusted i think it's just really impressive wow um the uh by the way the rules of this contest this is this is a big sim city duel and whoever wins will be the mayor of santa barbara for the day so if the mayor wins he gets to stay the mayor but the smartest kid in america is going to help him out for the day But if the kid wins He's the mayor He becomes the mayor

Of Santa Barbara That's not fair The mayor should have become His parents' son For the day Oh yeah They should switch They should Freaky Friday it

Yeah Or not Maybe not switch Just like he becomes His brother for the day Oh yeah That's good Yeah

It's not reversed It's just To wear big clothes and a backwards cap yeah and he gets cooked his mom or dad or cook for him and tucked in i feel like at some point he usurps the brother brother's uh girlfriend yeah sure she's mine she's mine now we are in love um i proposed i feel like uh was it uh mr leibowitz is that paul leibowitz is that the guy's name is doing the backs jeff leibowitz i believe i feel like at one point he said like and if the mayor wins he gets this kid's services for the day and i was like what

the fuck are you talking about i mean cook for you it is some people in this special have a lot of charisma and then the people who don't have charisma really don't have charisma yeah yeah it definitely shows yeah backstage jeff is not the most charismatic he has a pretty awkward moment later one question i had my friend tyler when i sent this to him was was like, and when I explained this bit, he was like, how do you one-on-one play somebody at SimCity? It's a very good question. Because- This is not exactly a versus game. Yeah.

No. It's a long game where you build a city. And I guess you could say like, oh, I guess you could put a time limit on it and see who makes, whose city makes the most money, I guess you could say like, oh, I guess you could put a time limit on it and see who makes, whose city like makes the most money, I guess. Yeah. It's not as fun as like, we're going to play Mortal Kombat. Yeah, not really. But I guess they're using what these people are.

They really wanted to shame the Santa Barbara mayor. We'll see. We'll see how good this is. Probably the guy, the producer like lived in Santa Barbara And there was some Like zoning ruling That he didn't like So then he had to Take off his lawn Yeah

Alright I'll get him Hey I got an award show Coming up in three months Let's put this guy To the ultimate test Plus mayor of Santa Barbara Is like a part time job Come on

What is he really doing Yeah Yeah He's partying with The college kids So Probably nothing Probably easy sim says sim city you gotta deal with like an earthquake and yeah there's a lot of godzilla shows up

yeah that's what i remember i remember playing a sim city where godzilla comes i love that yeah that's great and i think it's a sim city with all the like cut scenes because there was an original sim city that was just i think a top-down look but i feel like there was enhanced sin city oh with like the fmv oh yeah they share some clips of that yeah yeah yeah stressed out fire chief or something um around this time we move to um why robert alerted us to this which is another appearance of charles fleischer and we we pose the question in the 35th anniversary what is up with this guy why do we not see that much charles fleischer and this further answers the question we needn't dwell on this for too long but uh i

believe every word he says is done in a problematic voice. Yeah. And he's got that like compulsive need to keep changing his voice. Yes. Which is an interesting thing. I don't know if there's a name for it in the, like, what's the psychology? DSM. DSM.

Thank you. Maybe five. Four or five. Banoiophilia. Yeah. So I think, yeah, I think it's combined of combined of like oh i think he maybe can't talk in his normal voice and every voice he chooses is a problem yeah his yes because the main like certainly he veers into a couple of specific accents that are very not cool but even the bass that he talks in i'm wondering the whole you know this is kind of

not good right no isn't it is he sort of doing it's weird because did like is he stealing because look robin williams we like and a lot of stuff but robin williams also has sometimes depending on what mode he was in the voices the voices are the hardest thing i say even at the time they were i don't want to pretend I was ahead of these things, but the voices were not my favorite thing about Robin Williams for quite a while. No, and the switching voice is very fast and it would be, yes, it would be a different. Look, I'll take him doing Reagan or cartoon characters or whatever,

but we know the voices that were definitely go-tos for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was doing them at UCB in 2010, 2011. He had those voices. So there is a compulsive, yeah. So anyway, we don't have to dwell. No, we don't. I also remember, like, so you get a sense of, because he gets a lot of time.

They give him a lot of time. Because he was, of course, a star in this world at the time yes him having been shunned by the feature film world why he took his talents elsewhere to the gaming world we of course know that he had just created the new cd-rom the universe according to virgil reality which was like a like a living encyclopedia where he's like a german professor that's what he was doing at the time i watched some clips of that and gained nothing particularly to talk about um i he also i i remembered another thing that's a clue of what okay if we're annoyed just watching his voices we're forgetting a big thing about him obviously he's roger rabbit have you guys ever

seen any of those clips that are behind the scenes of roger rabbit that show how he was there in the roger rabbit suit he was on set oh i don't think he didn't really need to be yeah he was on he was there oh wow but like blocking those scenes or just like trying to be a part of it or like bring it to life in the physical space and maybe that was a helpful guide for zemeckis on some level but then there's these clips you could find of bob hoskins going like and then you got charlie fleischer and he's around and he's doing the voices and he's yelling yelling going amok oh it's charlie fleischer yeah he's quite a quite a fella like you're just dripping with hostility like we're no bob oskin's like looking like he hasn't slept in days yeah yeah hardship wow yeah i haven't seen that yeah yeah look those

you can you get a sense of, that maybe the chemistry between. Yeah. Old Roger and Eddie was not as much as it is between the characters. Right. Right. So a bunch of Charles Fleischer business and Charles Fleischer presents. What to me is the key category, which is the comedy game category. is an onslaught i have heard of a

little of this but not all these things are insane uh the first one up is called i'm your man and it's an interactive movie this was a thing for a little bit i've been obsessed for a little while it's called mr payback there was a an interactive movie about a guy who got revenge on people this is from bob gale of speaking of zemeckis bob gale of uh back to the future fame christopher lloyd is in it and you can watch these great trailers of the entire audience laughing and bobbing around and swinging their joysticks everywhere we're making the movie and meanwhile in reality this thing was so badly received it was siskel and everett's worst movie of the year so i think i'm your man is from the same world but this one is written by michael ian black and ben grant wow

and they're in it too and a whitney brown from s and the big picture, my friends, an inexplicable old SNL. Yeah. Uh, Joe Jackson did the music that Joe Jackson, 70 singer songwriter. They were really, that's a, that's a big recurring thing of a lot. I feel like this is like 70s musicians are like, I'm in because you get Thomas Dolby later in this, like CD ROM is definitely a world where like, Ooh, we can explore and we'll get to big ones a little later. Um i'm gonna go in order of insanity yeah we have to end with the craziest one um there's a bugs bunny one where the one of the most mad shatner is in the whole

thing where he has a copy for this one is just wascally wabbit runs amok and you boy you can like can we get a second on that one absolutely not not in your life um and then there's a game made by comedy central called dating and mating i think i was writing i missed the comedy central note but like i had to look that one up i was not in the i was like what the hell is this because it it's stand-up clips. Yeah. And the copy of the game build it as like, you're the club, whatever, promoter, owner, whatever. So you're someone at a club and you pick who goes up there and does their bits about dating and mating. So like, it has clips from Richard Lewis and Mark Curry and Adam Sandler, hey, and Ellen Cleghorn. So you choose your own set of wacky 90s dating standards. This sounds so dreadful.

I know. I guess they're just trying stuff out, I guess. They're trying stuff out. They don't know what it is yet, so they're figuring it out. It got nominated. It got nominated. We got on the board. It got on the board.

Yeah, you're going to call that a failure? Yeah, I shouldn't. I'm sorry. Okay, further comedy games. The Wacky World of Miniature Golf. Eugene Levy is an animated golf ball in the craziest mini putt course never built. Yeah, this almost looked like a Saturday TV funhouse or something, like footage of it. It looked so bad on purpose even

though it was not yes really yeah yeah um i but who like these ones who again and just like the it it feels it's so much so reminiscent of like there's a podcast with what and who has one and like yeah what do you mean eugene levy has an animated? And this one wins, by the way. Yeah. Which feels like a real upset because it feels like the one to beat would have to have been Dennis Miller, That's News to Me. Yeah. The Dennis Miller weekend update style joke CD-ROM game.

Yeah. This is insane. This is insane that this exists yeah this he's in like uh i guess it's i'm trying to think it's not few like a futuristic score like i'm trying to describe this it's like he's on a screen on a computer and then there's almost like family feud style title cards for like topics essentially next to him yes uh and it is so bizarre how did this happen it's like pre dennis he's he's like clean shaven it's pre dennis miller show on hbo but it's like obviously a weekend update rip off and is yeah is the idea you just clicked on him telling a joke i think so, because they didn't have space for rants.

Just like we can't do big videos. Yeah. Just literally. We couldn't fit one rant on the DVDs. It's going to have to be little bite-sized jokes. Your computer couldn't handle a rant. Couldn't handle it. Yeah.

The video had to be. Your brother, maybe he opened up a rant on your computer at home. Maybe. He pirated a secret rant. He pirated a rant. The videos always had to be tiny in the corner, and then there was a lot of text that is not moving around. Yeah.

Or pops up and pops away. So that doesn't take up a lot of memory. Really quick. I found a YouTube video. Oh, it's got all of it, I found. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go for it.

Well, this is one specific thing, which is like topical year-end jokes from 1993 so this is what you want you know what i i watch weekend update on snl and i hate that they pick the jokes for me i don't get to tell them a topic and then hear a joke back and i really hate that i put it on and i have to hear a joke about this week what if i want to hear a joke about february yeah well finally that dennis miller that snooze to me lets you be in charge of the comedy news and i ask you guys right now to pick a number between 1 and 23 and i will play a corresponding joke that'll be the the time code uh of the joke um mike let's start with you

uh eight all right eight um and that gets us to oh you'll like this it's a music one a showbiz and uh this is oh well you know what i was gonna do one about um michael jackson but it looks like there's one about Euro Disney. So I think I have to do that, right? Let's see. And never mind, I can't find it. All right, we're going to have to do Michael Jackson. Okay, fair enough. Paul McCartney expressed his dissatisfaction with Michael Jackson who won't talk to Paul about changing his royalty structure. But this fray has been going on for a long time,

ever since Jackson delayed production of their first record together. It seems Michael couldn't decide if he wanted to be ebony or ivory. I thought Michael always said it didn't matter if you were black or white. Ew. I mean. You didn't put a chill on the room, did you? He doesn't even have the juice. No miller juice is like gone out of that delivery because the miller had juice i liked the miller weekend update i know we were supposed to

hate him now because he's conservative but i'd like the miller weekend update let's see if we can save it uh jason do you have a what's um what do you think is going to be a better uh number i'm gonna say 21 21 all right well it'll be more you know oh good jason you'll is going to be a better number? I'm going to say 21. 21. All right. Well, it'll be more, you know. Oh, good. Jason, you'll be happy to hear that we landed on abortion pill. Plans to bring the French abortion pill to the United States have stalled because the pills makers are afraid of anti-abortion groups opposition.

They want to get those pills into the country. They should just smuggle them in inside French people's armpits. Not even the right-to-life movers are that committed. It didn't even sound like him. It sounds like an AI doing his voice. What if the show was hosted by dying

Dennis Miller? Wow. Yikes. Alright. Well, that's Dennis Miller and that's news to him. That is. Well, that's Dennis Miller, and that's news to him. That is so insane that that game exists. I watch old clips of Dennis Miller's show sometimes, and I think 75% of Dennis Miller is attitude. Yeah.

Because sometimes I listen to something he said, and I go, well, that wasn't funny at all. No, I didn't understand what it meant either. Right. I don't know what it meant. And the rhythm was, I guess, kind of funny honestly i think he's people thought he was cool it's a very ego cocky kind of delivery but it was very uh cool people thought it was cool i think and do you think less so now i do think less so now some of the cool is depreciated i do think so there was

a clip of norm mcdonald a couple years ago saying, he goes, Dennis doesn't even know what those references are. That might be the trick. Yeah, yeah. Just like, just jam them together. You know, hey, not like, we, look, when we reference name after name after name, as we're doing here today,

because we're going gonna do something with them we don't just reference and move on we have stuff to say about herbie hancock that's right well before we get an herbie hancock some of the reoccurring commercials yes are pretty good panasonic 3do game console i kind of remember this i remember seeing it fries electronics is what i remember oh okay i i remember one kid i knew who like his family always seemed to get the other game consoles like 3do or jaguar yeah yeah um the other commercial oh there's an ibm commercial oh with is a it's paul riser riser yes yeah uh yeah paul riser a little more lively in this commercial certainly than dennis miller in his cd-rom in his cd-rom yes if that's the

civically in dennis's cd-rom that's the rubric yeah um but yeah it's yeah paul riser like popping up like haunting somebody on computer screen after computer screen another extremely 90s ad like the 90s techno ad it like they're they're all well paired for sure with the special yeah um the thing if we're talking about who was cool then if that's the you know an attitude uh there is a group of people who uh what could have been cooler what could have been more of the moment and had to be addressed in this special uh it's been alluded to earlier but i will let uh leslie nielsen do the the full setup you know cyberspace has given us a whole new breed of pirate the growing number of dedicated highly skilled individuals who burrow through the cyber underworld to seek out information and

access highly sensitive material now these people don't take no for an answer and it's not the fbi and it's not the cia we're talking about hackers when you don't know what's coming there yeah what do you mean leslie nielsen is setting us up to learn about hackers. Hackers? What? They burrow in there and they see what they can find what is to be found. This is such a strange. So, yeah, now Cybermania presents a tribute to hackers. And I don't leave it with any further understanding of what a hacker is or why.

It's a pro-hacker piece. Very pro-h is or why it's a pro hacker piece very pro hacker and it's expelling all the myths you know you only hear about hackers when there's a problem with hackers the media never does any nice stories about the nice things that hackers do maybe it was like at the time people were like i don't know about this internet because i think i'm gonna be hacked so maybe there was an idea of like that people would just be scared of that term. So they were like, let's put a happy face on the hacker. The hacker is virtuous, is good. White hat hackers are virtuous.

Black hat hackers are suspicious operators. Oh, uh-oh. Do they say those distinctions in the thing? They don't say that in the thing. That's just a thing I know. hat black hat black like the uh michael mann uh hemsworth movie black hat is that about hackers that's about a hacker oh it also kicks ass i believe wow okay so there but there this is a people knowing your extensive knowledge about hackers i know a little i had a read about hacker crackdown would you say though this is a this is an that sounds like an anti-hacker more than i know

special well the government kind of like went nuts prosecuting people i think i think that reference like the 80s like and it's people getting into databases and a lot of it it was they say in this thing it's people just doing it to see if they could and then of course doing midnight raids at mit to find garbage that they could maybe hack it's quite a special you follow some real hackers on a midnight mit raid so doesn't that demystify hackers for your mom mom and dad? But it is straight propaganda for pro... Because you can hack anything you want. You can be a bad hacker.

Obviously, he's a black hat hacker we're learning about now. And this is portraying only one side. This is very one-sided. What if these are white hat hackers, but then as soon as the cameras aren't rolling, they flip that hat inside out, and what's on the other side? Black. Or they own two hats. Yeah.

Oh, that's it. That's how they get us. They hacked the system. How to dress themselves. Mr. Rogers would come home and take off his one sweater and put a different sweater on, and this is the same way with their hats. Bastards. I don't intend to put on my killing sweater.

But it's so fascinating, because it has to to be because they want to put a positive spin on computers. Well, Emanuel Goldstein and Death Vegetable and Count Zero are tired of them. I love Count Zero. Yeah. Count Zero is cool. Count Zero is cool. These are awesome. Once you see it, these are people like you and me. They have goatees like you and me.

Yeah. They have cow skull bolo ties and wear sunglasses indoors next to screens like you and me. Yeah. I love these hackers. You know what? I'm going to marry a hacker. Yeah. Yeah.

If I could do it all over again, I would have a baby with a hacker. For sure. And you still have a chance to make that baby a hacker. Oh, yeah. If you're lucky. If she applies herself. Yeah. A white hat or a black hat. Up to her.

I'm letting her decide. Yeah, yeah. Totally open. You can be any type of hat hacker you want. Wear any type of hacker hat. I said this at the start. Where the hell does this come from this is so bizarre this five minutes or whatever it is i think it's trying to dispel like the

negative like they're called hackers and they're coming for your computer right that's what i said but i'm saying it's a propaganda because there are bad hackers yeah sure and i don't i don't straight up propaganda look i'm saying that i love these hackers but i also don't I don't, I don't. Straight up propaganda. Look, I'm saying that I love these hackers, but I also don't, I don't see how this piece dispels what you just said that the news reports say. Like the hackers are coming and that these guys are like, yeah, we are coming, but we're just going to poke around.

What's the problem? I'm cool. I'm Dr. Who. You can trust me. I'm the name of something that you like. And they're lying to you. It's not all like these guys

They might be lying to you and also they have some of the worst Vibes you've ever seen I'm saying the special is lying to you These guys could be big liars Count Zero could be a big liar I have no idea I don't know who's a good hacker and who's a bad hacker They're just showing me them

I mean the main way they try to get the hackers Into your heart is by showing that one of them uh eats a slice of pizza which he picks up using a power glove that's what you have to do if you're a hacker i do like that though how does that help that power glove is filthy the others the palm side of the power glove is cloth that's that you can't like and you can't how do you wash a power glove it has electronics in it yeah and you just don't no fact no power glove has ever been washed you probably nintendo would have said like you know hey take a you know just take like a cleaning uh you know just take take some little

napkin or something get it wet pat it down the fucking count zero is not cleaning his power glove how to delouse your power yeah i fumigate your power i did not know did not know how to take apart my zapper gun and clean it and you know make sure everything was working and then put it back together so you didn't that means you didn't go to nintendo gun military school i didn't i could not assemble my zapper gun in two seconds they had to assemble it for me i never took it apart there was a legion of duck hunt dogs coming for america right and you had you were drafted the gun better be assembled if it's assembled i'll do well and somebody gotta clean it for you but right that thing breaks the war is over yeah yeah um yeah

this isn't it's also they also do a lot of say they sure say a lot of times you know you hear about hackers and they can move satellites guess what hackers can't move satellites that would never happen oh i believe you well then why did you bring this up at all you really made a good case for now i'm suddenly afraid that hackers are going to move all the satellites yeah why'd you put that in my head why are you making me think about that this is two or one year away from golden eye where uh boris would hack into satellites oh sure or hack into the GoldenEye itself. I think we're also about a year or so from the movie Hackers.

And do you think the screenwriters that were watching this and go like, I'm going to make some tweaks. I'm going to give them weird sunglasses. Maybe. You know what? I think they might have because I believe that the first hacker you meet, Emmanuel Goldstein, that is from it's made the name is maybe from 1984 i'm sorry if i'm dumb and i got that wrong oh um but that is also the name

of one of the major characters in hackers wow so these are the hackers from hackers well it's not he doesn't play him they just used that name again because it has, you know, Orwellian connotations. Maybe that was just a thing that hackers, oftentimes hackers would adopt things from Orwell or 1984 specifically. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Because he called it, you know, Orwell was the original hacker. Yeah. You know what?

I like to think that I'm sort of part of the lineage of hackers. I'm not really a hacker But I'm a checker You're a checker So I'm in the family Kind of a cousin Yeah I like to think

I'm a white hat checker Not a black hat checker You are Because you use Your checking for good Right You get nice things For people

And help them get on rides Yeah You have a white hat Discount on toy I have my glitch Twitter account Popped up with a very Good discounted

baby toy today and i grabbed it before it sold out sometimes you send me links to discount twitter accounts of like you can get 40 handicap hot fry bags yeah for a great discount and i hope you did it i hope you took advantage i didn't fry i I can't say I took advantage Wait that Free package snack you mean Yeah yeah Yeah Andy Camp's hot fries Yeah Huh Yeah

Well You absolutely do Use your powers for good But I fear the day You decide to use them For evil Hmm The day Mike turns black hat

It depends You don't think you can Check your way into a satellite But I'm saying maybe you can Maybe it is possible being honest about it not like these filthy hackers yeah no i'd never touch a satellite no never never check satellite you can't power glow eyebrow raise when he said that never

i don't know if that communicated i think it did you did i think it sounded in my voice. I acted it and I performed it. I think, yeah, we heard the eyebrow raise. Can we do it one more time where we kind of like hear your eyebrow raise? Well, can you do it for me? Oh, I'd rather not.

Show me how you want me to do it. Is it okay if I don't? I immediately regret saying what I just said. No. No. I'd love for you to show me

how you want me to do it. Raise your eyebrows. i can't check my way into a satellite okay i'll do it like that i can't do a race okay well then now you're just being silly about it i'm sorry i said that i felt as scared as that engineer you should um uh boy you know if you're gonna have a music performance in your cyber mania show music performance we're halfway through the goddamn i know it's the long we're gonna have to do this has to be a part one and two um the long episodes are back um the performing a specially composed piece just for this night is herbie hancock we associate him with this kind

of thing with his rocket video with all those computer creatures dancing around of course this is up herbie hancock's alley and he does a big song that he plays on a keyboard or a keytar rather and the song goes cyber generation cyber generation it also then later it goes cyber generation it pretty much only goes this is the tone of this also the fact that this is in like kind of a castle set this as soon as the song started this show transmogrified into like a bible man yes touring show yeah the song like no if i listen to some herbie hancock i like herbie hancock this is maybe not his finest work that he cranked out for cybermania um he made his point there is a cyber generation coming yes he's right about that and they're gonna dance at us but maybe also kill us um but yeah it's a little

chintzy right it's a little three dancers on the stage not filling the space not filling the space even beetlejuice's graveyard review later had like five yeah and there's like one contortionist kind of dancer and they just do a lot of angles and like video filters and so many they put that secret invasion ai muck all over the screen yeah yeah so that you think something's happening but it's just in the way yeah yeah oh god um this is a little bit trying but i love the existence of it and then he goes straight from the performance into his speech yeah yeah and he in in which he shouts out a bunch of like the musicians who are exploring possibilities in this area in the music uh realm of cd-rom and i was excited

by this because there's a quick shout out to todd rungren todd at the time was doing something called uh tri which is of course tr interactive which is one of the dopiest titles acronyms for a thing yet i've poked i love that there are these artists he mentions bowie i don't really know what bowie was doing with cd-roms i'd like to find out um but you know uh peter gabriel who's nominated for this music award that they're gonna do um you know it it feels like they have to mention these musicians who are exploring kind of the gaming space in the interactive space and it was a big thing at the time but then he says one band shattered what the fuck does this sentence mean but one band shattered virtual vision seen around the world and then there's a little piece about

aerosmith this is where i started getting paranoid this is making this for us what do you mean aerosmith now there's a big aerosmith part. Uh-huh. Aerosmith's been on the cutting edge of rock and roll is a statement that's made. Since the beginning. Since the beginning. Cutting edge. That's definitely what I think when I hear Walk This Way is how cutting it is and how edgy it is.

Cutting edge. Who even would you say is on the cutting edge of rock and roll? What would that mean technologically? T.R.I. T.R.I. I don't think there's any answer besides T.R.I. Whoever he first used, I guess you could say the Beatles.

They used multi-track or Beach Boys. Who used multi-track recording first? I think Beatles. Probably Beatles. A cutting edge of popular music, I would probably say Herbie Hancock. Like, Herbie hancock had a lot of phases in his career and as technology went on i feel like he had he kept evolving you know you feel like almost like synthesizers have to be a part of this discussion because that is literally

technology yeah um but it's so it's hard so it's weird to think about this like pretty pure rock and roll guitar band being on the cutting edge. I get it. Look, they made it to hair metal land, I suppose. Like, Aerosmith survived the 70s to make it into the 80s and had some hits alongside hair metal bands. It doesn't mean it's cutting edge. No, I agree. It means they were kind of chasing a trend a little bit more.

Well, it's clearly, it's all just in there because they have these video games of course which all they do have three video games i mean we gotta do revolution x at some point yeah we should cover a long revolution x yeah yeah i agree i don't even know what the second one they mentioned is and virtual guitar which i think we talked about forever ago but they're in yeah they're on the cutting edge of cyberspace and interactive gaming they are they're just built up and tout and of course they made that music video with this where alicia silverstone is the cyber babe that's cutting it they clearly that shows me that that bradley whitford understands technology and cd-roms because there was like a kid getting a boner in a virtual helmet well don't forget the robot the

sexy lady robot on the cover of just push play oh of course yes yeah that's a future thing that was probably they went to aerosmith labs and saw the early prototypes of that uh they did they couldn't film it they'd send us camera to film that but the that early robot went haywire yeah yeah crushed the camera all right um spend this so there's so much build-up aerosmith the most cutting-edge band that has ever been they also can't be here tonight and then so shit deflating yeah and then it cuts to a what i am just gonna call a video riddle oh my god by tom hamiltonerosmith's member Tom Hamilton. To be there or not to be there. What is the question?

In cyberspace, we're all here. It's a still shot and he's popping all around a room. It's very Alice in Wonderland. Tom Hamilton is the band that said, we're all here because we're not all there tonight. Hi, I'm Tom Hamilton from Aerosmith, and on behalf of the whole band, I'd like to say congratulations to Cybermania 1994, the first annual Interactive Gamers Awards.

Yes! Yes! Yes! That is somehow an FMV. It is a segment filmed with cameras but it acts like a fmv that would go on a cd-rom because it's it's just odd it's very short does nothing it does not enough time to tell a story uh elements on the screen stay still yeah um i yeah what what purpose does this serve? Digital riddles. And then, sorry, are we honoring them?

But then it finishes and he says, hey, congratulations, Cybermania. So Aerosmith is giving them an award. Well, the bassist of Aerosmith is. The bassist. I can't even remember what instrument he is. Yeah. Yeah, the bass player from Aerosmith made. I guess maybe the third most popular Aerosmith member.

I don't know what you would rank the other three. I don't know. Isn't Joey three? Joey three? Joey Kramer? What do you think? Tom Hamilton, I believe, is Sweet Emotion, like kind of wrote Sweet Emotion or had the most to do with it.

Okay. is that cutting edge because it's got like the thing peter frampton was already doing perry was playing the whatever that tube that peter frampton uses the vocoder i don't know if you call it that it's called a vocoder but it's called something it's a voice box voice changing talk box yeah well that's not cutting edge because i like it's fine i like sweet emotion but yeah it's not i don't know this premise is strange anyway but they had to again we had to do okay uh the show's filling up we didn't we got five minutes on hackers we got uh dennis leary nobody's heard of uh doing a beat poetry and then we gotta give 30 seconds to Tom Hamilton To pop around a room like the Cheshire Cat

He seems like not He's I feel like he's doing his best here Actually in as far as performance wise Yeah He's like kind of into it Can you do a little more energy Tom Oh more energy Of course I'd love to

Thanks for the suggestion Do you want to hear me play Sweet Emotion on the bass? It's a treat for him to act, not like Shatner. Shatner just has to do it so often. Right. This is so strange. And then you see a bunch of music. CD-ROMs is presented by Thomas Dolby in a dumb beret.

I had no idea there was a Prince one. I know. This is a whole, it opens up so many avenues. I know. This is a Prince cd-rom where you explore different rooms of paisley park which itself seems to look like a mist type yes early 90s vr space yeah yeah so that's what you do you and you walk up to like here's here's a torch and then you click it with your mouse and then it lights with fire and then at some point

you see a um you click on a metronome and the the little needle on the metronome is prince i think i saw it called a pointless scavenger more marketing than gaming i think that's probably right yeah yeah this is a very strange i i like the other the screen that i saw where he says it's a title says are you sure with the prince language are you sure you want to exit the experience i bet people were yeah i mean i want to play the whole thing but can i ask a stupid question is thomas dolby have something to do with dolby sound systems i don't think so unless he's somehow in the family but i don't believe so okay uh no he just has something to do with buzz aldrin and silence silence bad hats you know um so yeah

but is he a bad is he a bad hat or a good hat um then there's something that happens where we check back in on the sim city people and we check, we check in on the celebrities who are playing, who are, you can talk, you can actually talk to Jenna Von Oye in our prodigy chat room. Again, the most just hyper 90s on top of 90s. And the, the like real guy from the Academy is saying a bunch of boring Academy stuff. And then a girl comes up and puts his arm. Did you guys notice this part yes her line is really weird it's really so she like he's just trying to say his boring president stuff

but then she comes up and puts his puts her arm locks arms with him and um we've been we've met her earlier she's from my so-called life you know a show about high school yeah so then this guy north of 40 probably gets a little flustered he gets a little distracted by the again high school actress i looked i looked it up and she's 20 so okay but still this is very strange and then he stops his speech cold and he says i think a lot more than my voice is about to crack i know what so what i don't know what what does that mean what does he mean i well okay i realized on second viewing he might have been alluding to something that happened earlier in the show when he was on stage in front of the audience and his he did get nervous and his voice

cracked oh you of course remember that we're paying close enough attention to remember that. Yes, that was awkward and he covered okay. But he may have been calling back, it's that thing that's an elephant in the room in your mind, but you did not need to mention it ever again. So it's just confusing. But taking that aside, a pretty girl is making you flustered and you say, I think a lot more than my voice is about to crack.

His boner cracks when it extends into a boner uh you're saying that a boner and i'll go i go i know you're just trying to come up with whatever for him you're just trying to help him out but the idea that a boner is cracking is that like yeah you got to get to the emergency room yeah i don't want i don't think there i can't think of anything in this in any sexual process that where the cracking is a good thing uh shaky bed frame yeah but it's great i guess if if you if your sex is so powerful that it cracks pieces of the bed off then sure maybe that's still pretty too that might be too powerful it's still not something i want to happen because you don't have to deal with that at the end of the

day the bella and edward film i don't i don't know this have you ever seen this it's really funny uh with uh pattinson and uh kristen stewart he like destroys a four postman because he's such a powerful vampire. He's so powerful. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that makes some sense at least.

All right. But that's not what he's talking about. That's not what he's talking about. What is he talking about? He's so turned on that he's going to crack. Well, wait, can I say her line that sets this up? Yeah. Yes, please.

And it gets a little muffled, but I think what what she says is can i play in your chat room what ew ew and then he keeps saying boring president stuff and then says like uh you know what we'll be right back and then he kind of turns back to get with her and then thank god it cuts away yeah i mean i think this was just a skit and nothing happened but this is weird he's the president of the thing and then he writes himself a skit where he's got a big crack and boner for a girl who plays a high school student he's doing a humming a humming a bit like yeah maybe something maybe there is something wrong with him he thinks you know that thing where you get turned on and then your penis cracks. It's like a reverse glow stick.

You know when a glow stick, you crack it to make it light up. But with him, it's like, it's boners in two pieces. And it's sort of a reverse crack to assemble it. It makes a crack to go back together. Yeah. Does it make a big sound, you think? Like a signal flare flare a reverse signal flare like like that i don't know look what else would it crack i guess he could crack under pressure

is that yeah maybe yeah we're thinking we're like does he mean is he saying that he's gonna like he's gonna crack on his marital vow i'm gonna cheat on my wife yeah yeah he's cracking yes he's cracking under pressure the The engagement ring's snapping in half. That's it. The wedding band. Okay, so I think a lot more than my voice is about to crack. By that, I mean my wedding ring, because I'm getting engorged, as are my fingers.

Yeah. Because blood is just going everywhere, and so my fingers are getting thick, and my wedding ring is gonna crack apart yeah it's like when the hulk transforms everything bursts this guy gets so horny he transforms into a hulk like monster again this guy this guy's name was what jeff hulk leibowitz jeff leibowitz when when video game academy president Jeff Leibowitz gets turned on he hulks out yeah crack wow his wedding ring went flying it's in my eye now a 20 year old now cheat on wife here me out of your eye for you a 20 year old actress like real quick deliver

this line and she's like all right if i hurry i can get back to my north hollywood apartment before the rush you know oh my god um anyway we gotta pick up the pace because this is i mean we're getting down there although we're not in a way, there's so much fucking shit. Just real quick. I got to point out right after this, there's two commercials. One is the Big Mac deal, two Big Macs for $2. And I'm like, oh, that's such a bargain. R.I.P.

Barely departed. The other one is an ad for a TNT special called In Search of Dr. Seuss, which looks so horrific. Yeah, with Robin Williams and Kathy Najimy and Christopher Lloyd, and they're all dressed like Seuss people. Yeah, it's really insane. Shelley Duvall says some educational stuff, and she's got a big flower hat. One of the games, a dog says says it was time for my sunday bone that's all i need to say about that part of it for the sake of time uh um uh now to present best sports would you please welcome miss marla gibbs and the stars of the upcoming film the

babysitters the barbarian brothers now now a true mystery walks on stage, the Barbarian Brothers. The Barbarian Brothers. Oh, hold on. Before the Barbarian Brothers, the Shelley Duvall thing, the educational documentary is even weirder than the hackers one

because it's got a bunch of assholes in it and the one guy says, research shows that networking, oh no, he says, in the last few decades we've seen a dramatic decline in the quality of education who are you what is this it says a guy a man and a woman that keep going back and forth there's a really weird text card that says uh research shows that networking improves social skills and decreases ethnic tension oh right i

forgot about that like i don't why are they dumping on education and then they're just talking about cd-roms that appear to just bring up encyclopedia entries it is weird i think that yeah well time is time will certainly prove that the internet will be a tool that decreases ethnic tension. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Anyway, back to the Barbarian Brothers. The Barbarian Brothers. What is this?

Then two big bodybuilders come out. They're fucking massive. Yes. What are they? What's the babysitters? They've been in a lot of movies. Yeah. If you look.

Two weird, jacked, thick jacked thick guys yeah they're very weird one of them just passed away a couple years ago oh no um but yeah i was like wait a minute why don't i know the barbarian brothers if they're i was my one of my first thoughts was wrestler but yeah no they're bodybuilders i think yeah bodybuilders no the wrestlers. They're bodybuilders, I think? Yeah. They're bodybuilders. No, the wrestlers have yet to show up. That's right. There are wrestlers to come. Double Trouble is a movie from 1992 starring the Barbarian Brothers. Think big.

They're in DC Cab. Oh. They're in Natural Born Killers, apparently, too. Oh, really? There's a movie called, in 1994 twin sitters how do i not know twin sitters i discovered is the babysitters oh there were a couple of titles for this okay for this barbarian brothers feature film this trailer also this will really vex you we oh look and they tried to like steal the the tagline before it, you're never home alone when you're a twin.

So they're trying to just kind of usurp. Like, I don't know. It is too much of a conundrum to solve at this time, the Barbarian Brothers. There will be more Barbarian Brothers content coming to this show. I don't know what form yet, but that is not. With another tagline, move over mary poppins here come the barbarian brothers i mean i'm on board of that that i like i think i know everything

i've seen plenty of mary poppins my mary poppins chapter is over barbarian brothers you're welcome in yeah no there i there's a just for time we're gonna keep moving here uh they're in a movie called the flamingo Kid as well. That seems kind of familiar. Is it Matt Dillon? Yeah, Matt Dillon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gary Marshall movie.

Yes, I've heard of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not at the stars, I don't believe, of The Flamingo Kid, though. We'll check out. We'll go into Barbarian Brothers. I'm going to cut the clip of them where there's just a 30-second awkward pause where the package doesn't play and they don't know what to do. They try to spike a football, pantomime, and it doesn't.

This is all exceedingly strange. And then they present a sports award that NBA Jam doesn't win. What are you talking about? Some Caesars Palace boxing game? Caesars World of Boxing. Oh, we're all talking about boxing game? Caesar's World of Boxing. Oh, we're all talking about it. Caesar's World of Boxing. Stood the test of time.

Insane. Okay. Yeah. Then there's more of these things where Leslie Nielsen has a speech to give, but they make other things happen next to the speech because the speech is dry. And in this case, it involves... Wait, no. Actually, the setup is that there's two actual wrestlers

are going to play WCW Super Brawl. Yes. And who are they? So you're talking about back then Lord Steven Regal, which is William Regal is the name he's gone by in the last 15 or 20 years. And flying Brian Pillman, who was a maniac who has passed away. Yeah. He was a crazy man.

He would die three years later at 35. Yes. And was, you know, drugs and stuff. Wild man. Yeah. And this is so they see, the bit is that they're playing against each other while Leslie Nielsen is doing the speech.

And then they slowly just, it devolves into them actually wrestling each other on the stage. And then, yeah, they're doing most you know body slams uh uh slamming heads into walls and stuff and then leslie nielsen pulls a gun out yeah to try to get them to calm down which is wild there's a lot of guns in this special he's the speech he's giving is is anti-violence right so that's the twist is that then he just has to use violence it's anti-violence in video games and someone earlier had read a message from al gore say talking about the importance of the information super highway and interactive right

content in media and i'm like wait a minute wasn't tipper like complaining about music music and violent video games and then they do a violent video games bit shortly later in the yes things i think they're i think they're pretty clean in their uh yeah pro-violence approach pro-hackers Pro-violence And yeah So he scares Regal And Pillman away

There's a really One of the most famous Pillman clips Is on Raw When he pulled a gun On Steve Austin In a house Which is a

Staged It was not a real But it's That was a Spoiler Yeah Nobody died Big Regal I wasn't watching back then Pillman was a really good wrestler I love Reg. Nobody died. Big Regal.

I wasn't watching back then. Pillman was a really good wrestler. I love Regal. I'm a big Regal guy. Yeah. He's still great. And then Leslie Nielsen gives like, don't worry about all this stuff. You know, there's ratings.

Don't worry. Video games have ratings now. So just check the ratings he basically hand waves the idea that violence or any content is a problem and he basically just goes he very throwaway just goes check the ratings check the ratings don't worry about it there's a throwaway line earlier with him and jonathan taylor thomas and jonathan taylor thomas says you ever wonder how the games are made and leslie ellison goes no not really that is pretty that's funny yeah yeah

that's a that's just that's actually yeah that's a good laugh um okay uh there are some uh best actor awards yeah i forgot all about giving out i by the way i i sent this link uh to past guest pat castles and i sent it to him because i discovered that this entire thing was covered on a college humor show called bleep bloop uh 10 years ago and pat was a guest on that so uh we i haunted him with something from his past by bringing this up and he's like yeah i kind of remember this and he's flipping through and he's like sorry i'm just skimming but how come everyone i'm landing on is like an old man and never does it get more old manny than in this neck of the woods oh yeah we present uh best actress and this is presented by one of the models inc and oh i got so excited

models inc yeah it takes you back very of the era uh and then robert culp go my spy culp is there um and they uh i mean i don't have a lot about this but you discover that culp is there because he's also in a game called voyeur um this is this seems like a big this is a prestige fmv game i've never heard of it till now um but the it it's it sweeps the this is the everything everywhere all at once it sweeps the acting categories although which that movie did not do uh brendan fraser well you know what i'm saying it swept some of them except a couple of them um and i i recognize colt because i i've been picking random columbos recently watching them and he's the first one he's number one uh i think i think the book the authors are number one he's the private detective agency here's the thing about robert

colp he is in four columbus yes extremely recurring i've seen one of them yeah yeah he's in uh yes that's a special slot the columbo villain role some of the finest actors of all time have done it leslie nielsen i think am i making that up i think maybe uh colp also notable the murderer in the pilot episode of mrs columbo with kate mulgrew oh they even brought him in for missus yes the weird mrs columbo where you never saw colum Oh, they even brought him in for Mrs. Yes, the weird Mrs. Columbo where you never saw Columbo and they never crossed paths. Yeah, don't worry about it. Yeah, no, separate lives.

They're both busy. Two seasons, two seasons on Tubi. God, really? Wow, really? I didn't know he was that long. So yeah, Culp is good and they had to bring in him, a big dog for this game

because this game sounds good. He stars as Reed Hawk, the evil CEO of Hawk Industries. And he is going to run for president, but he is a bad guy. He is a black hat, and he cannot be the president. At this time, evil CEOs were not allowed to be president. So you, the player, has to stop him. You have to sneak around his house and the houses of his family. And it's all done like very rear window through blinds.

You have to like leer. You have to be a voyeur. You have to be a voyeur. You're the voyeur. Find some evidence to stop evil reed hawk from becoming president and the best part about this game it has sex in it there's sex in the game there's even a part where two girls two girls are in 1994 are standing next to each other in their underwear and they touch each other lightly and then there's

a phone call that interrupts the whole thing but it seems like if there's no phone call maybe they were gonna kiss or something oh my god this is an edgy game so it had to clearly it had to win the acting awards and i forget the name of the actress but she gives the most sexual she gives the most horny speech um grace grace Grace, Grace Zabrinsky. Grace Zabrinsky. She wants Robert Culp. It is heavy sexual tension. Wait, which was the actress who played Susan's mom on Seinfeld?

That's a different category. That was the other one. She's in this? Yeah, she accepts an award. She what? Wait a minute. Now I got to go back to my- Is she Grace Zabrinsky? My phone is, that's what I'm trying to figure out.

My phone is almost- We're doing the longest episode we've done in a long time. The phone is dying. Look, in terms of sexy gay, we're already choked up from the multiple airings of the women's gel deodorant commercial about the most important thing i put on and there's a sleazy narrator going is it red like talking about our lipstick yeah no

was this was that's really loom large in your head yeah was it tantalizing that's what i'm saying it was like i can't think about a sexy game there's already sexy ads in here for deodorant learning about hackers i'm getting turned on well and and then plus uh uh we can't forget andy car carvalho and and and cute andy carvalho is in it the last this guy's cracking boners the last one percent of my phone was was dedicated to finding that name so i could say that. And it completely shut down before I could find the actress. What a techno nightmare, Mike. Oh, gosh. Anyway, the woman who plays Susan's mother on Seinfeld, who's that very dismissive lady,

maybe 50s or early 50s or something, wins an award. And I'm trying to remember if it's this award. Maybe it is. Yeah, she's got kind of, she's got a very sexual energy, I guess. Is she like 50-ish, late 40s maybe?

It could be. Oh my gosh. Okay, then we, Jason, bring it up and give me your iPad. Then it's the main, then it's the actor award and this is all old men.

It's nothing but. It's Robert Culp. It's Leonard Nimoy. And then my favorite part about it mickey rooney oh i got so excited where mickey rooney does a voice i know i saw this i was watching this in the kitchen and i let out i went like this because lindsey was like she's like what is that what are you watching what is happening you're taking a walk to look at jason's ipad you're dragging the recorder around i have to cut some of the noise on this crunch crunch crack that's not mike's

boner cracking no it's not brinsky was also in charmed in ray donovan why do you have to go over there to see this mike show me take jason's word for it oh i just pulled up her wick it's an audio medium why are you looking at a picture i wanted to see i wanted to make sure you want your boner to crack because you're attracted to grace de brince we're all horned up we've been here for hours she is she was on seinfeld you but you didn't trust your friend's word he was trying to tell you like no let me see a photo if i pulled it up it was just going to be all pictures of Andy Carvalho. Okay? You can't trust this guy when he finds a lady pretty.

As George's fiancee, Susan's mother. That's right. Wait, we knew that. Why'd you have to say that part? I'm just saying. He's confirming it. It's in the first paragraph. He's getting too worked up.

Really? Like, I got a lady's doing that. Playing over here. He said that to cover the fact that he was just scrolling through Carvalho's photos from Google image search. Your iPad is overheating from too much Carvalho's. Again? That's how the crack got in there. That proves it, how Jason cracked his screen.

Wait a minute. He cracked his screen? Yeah. He cracked his screen. Wait a minute. He cracked his screen. Yeah. He cracked his screen from cracking a boner? Yeah, well. My point, let's get things as unsexy as they can be and talk about Mickey Rooney. Because the clip that they play, it is a CD-ROM about racetracks. And they play a clip.

And in the clip, it seems as mickey rooney is a guy betting on the horses and in the clip he says this a long there's a long very quiet walk home when you lose the whole bundle so this is a cd-rom where mickey rooney is a sad man going broke at the racetrack and we haven't heard of it until 2023. This is madness. And then I try to look it up and all the emulators are broken. They're all bright red. That means error.

Means I can't play them. I want a copy of A Great Day at the Races, the sad Mickey Rooney horse racing game. Oh, we got to find it. Got to do an episode on it. Another day, another dollar lost. rooney horse racing game oh we got it fine you gotta do an episode on it another day another dollar lost i guess i'll have to steal my booze today there's many games where you like root around for like tickets on the ground or like maybe someone dropped a winning and didn't know maybe i'm little maybe i can pose as a child and try to appeal to somebody's sympathies to buy me

my first beer i lose i can pose as a jackie and steal one of these horses and sell them on the black market i bet i could i bet i could beat a horse i bet i could out race a horse Run me in the race I'm I'm at the end of my stuff Pretty much There's the best game award Mortal Kombat wins And Leslie Nielsen says

Whoopee I really like that juxtaposition Before I play the last clip Is there anything else in this A shockingly long episode i my phone is died i don't know what my notes say i have a couple i forgot i don't i think that's for the best editing it for you uh the kid won the kid won sim city you're right the kid gets to be the mayor of of santa barbara santa barbara for 24 hours throwing into anarchy it became a

purge situation. Yes, yeah, yeah. As we know, Santa Barbara had to get, yeah, Santa Barbara was a lawless city for two years. They had to chase out all the 10-year-old, no goodniks let in, but the smartest kid in America. Yeah.

Smartest, aleckist kid in America, I say. Yeah. But they, yeah, they cleaned it up. They firebombed parts of the town and ultimately the awards ended Yeah. But they cleaned it up. They firebombed parts of the town. And ultimately, the awards ended. And they ended with this. Now, if you're a cyber maniac like me, I bet you had a blast.

If you're a cyber maniac like me. And if you've never heard of a CD-ROM before the show, it's pretty exciting. I know I can't wait to get home. Grab a hold of my i can't wait to get home and grab a hold of my joystick and boot up the hard drive nice ends with a joke where leslie nielsen standing next to jonathan taylor thomas says i'm going home to jerk off yes jonathan let's all grab our joysticks and give them a good crack good night everybody that's all that's all i mean i would make an effort to like have some last bit in this episode but this is fucking crazy i had no idea this would go for so long robert denby you gave us

quite a gift god bless you this is you gave us everything we wanted in one two-hour package. Listeners, you must go watch this as it aired on TBS, the Superstation. It's incredible. Honestly, think about how many Academy Awards you have watched all of the night of and been bored to tears. This is better than, I'll just say it's better than any oscars right isn't it i guess it yeah it is yeah it is maybe like the best of the best billy crystal era where everything everybody was on fire and they were tall valanche but they think

about this we love this so much and they didn't even need valanche they didn't even get bruce i was hoping his name was in there but his name is not in much, and they didn't even need the lance. They didn't even get Bruce. I was hoping his name was in there, but his name was not in the credits, and they didn't even need him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how much fucking cyber firepower they had. Whoever's alive in the credits on this should do the next Oscars.

Yes. Give it to... Well, there was one name. I don't know if he's alive or dead, but when I looked him up, the first name that comes up, one of his other credits is like a Leslielie nielsen golf video oh i saw that he's trying to get on the getting on the dwarf trend and he seemed to have been born in the 1930s so i don't know if that's who if he's still alive i don't know if that's who you give the oscars to all right well um but uh cope died 13 years ago who else had a golf video didn't uh You can't ask this question

now. Tim Conway had a series of directed VHS golf videos, I believe. Dorf, I just said it. Is that the same one? I'm sorry. How embarrassing. I will cut that out. Fucking moronic. Fucking idiot I am.

And it was called Dorf, dude. Oh, I thought you meant steven dorf had a series of golf videos probably another big area that opened up funny instructional videos uh the cd-rom era should have lasted longer why didn't it go longer this thing is incredible we must preserve cybermania 94 as a time capsule of what mattered not if we needed to represent just the 90s but also how about the entire century the entire 20th century yeah i say flush it all down the toilet the way fucking zazlov wants and the only thing that should remain is cybermania 94 there i said it i think you're right and when the alien well and i shouldn't shouldn't say when the aliens come

they're already here as we've been seeing in the headlines. Are the aliens helping the orcas? Is that what's happening? Oh, yeah, maybe. Or the orcas are the aliens. Oh, yeah. They have been the whole time. That's right. Wow, just laying in wait.

I know one thing that'll tell us that aliens have actually infiltrated society already. It's called Disney Marvel's Secret Invasion. I'm hitting stop on the recorder. Oh, okay. Club 3, I don't need to do anything. Cybermania. You know what we're doing. All right, stop on the recorder. Oh, okay. Club three, I don't need to do anything. Cybermania. You know what we're doing. All right, long episode, bye. Yes.

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