Podcast: The Ride - UNLOCKED: David Copperfield

Episode Date: November 27, 2020

Enjoy this sample of P:TR - The Second Gate. Available at Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide An examination of David Copperfield and his themed entertainment connections. Unopened restaurants, private islands, and his insane Vegas residency. Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever! Dog! 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 Welcome to Podcast The Ride, the second gate, magic edition. I don't know, I didn't prepare that, I'm sorry. My name is Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan is here. Hi. And Scott Gairdner.

Hi there. This is an episode, this is another theme park adjacent episode, because it's about a show that happens in Las Vegas. But as Jason Sheridan, who does not know anything about scott and i are going to be telling him today this has all the elements you would want from a theme park experience and i didn't know this going into seeing this show we're talking of course about david copperfield's las vegas show at the mgm grant mgm grant and he's been performing there for a number of years but this is the show that is is currently uh at the mgm grand at the hollywood

theater it might be the david copperfield theater now it is the david copperfield theater yes okay sure uh and i think he's been doing this particular show since 2013 and it is something you've if you're a longtime listener of podcast the ride uh you've heard me refer to it and say recommend it as highly as possible and say go into it with no spoilers uh it's it's pretty crucial and i will say this if you if you think if you're listening to this and you think there's any odds of you seeing this show it is so much better without knowing the stuff that we're gonna say and i almost feel guilt right now i feel like we should be recording this podcast in masks uh like the uh fox's famed masked magician of course because we're going to rip the lid off of some secrets although except not because this is a publicly available we're not going to say how he does his tricks right no illusions rather uh yes but like a great magician you two are going to make an episode

appear because i have purposely not done any research for this other than learning the show is billed as an evening of grand illusion and then i started reading about the accommodations on the copperfield island. Oh, complex. Okay. I have some of this too. So, so, so here,

let me, let me say that. All right. So I also have, I'm getting over a head cold. The last couple of recordings I have had a cold, so I'm, I'm a little out of it.

So I'm, I'm prepared to be, I'm ready to be dazzled. Yeah. It seems like your brain could use a good dazzling, and that's what we're going to do. So Mike and I have now seen the show, and I haven't talked to Mike about it,

and I'm so excited to talk to you about it. We maybe texted, oh, you saw it, and then. Just the right, the immediately after you were in a daze. But you have talked about him for a year. You have talked about this show for a while, I feel like. It's been a long time, yeah. I think I saw it at the beginning of 2018, I forget, 2017 even. A hundred percent credit to Jason Wallen, our friend and guest of the show from the Hard Rock Park episode, among other things.

He's the one who really, like, you need to see this and you need to know nothing. But Jason Sheridan seems like, you know, you're okay with us spoiling the secrets you know I'm a guy I like to I'll read a few pages ahead in a book and flip back like I even if I know the conclusion I like like the journey I was a real magic kid growing up too I never did matter I got I think I had like one or two magic kits but like if there was a special on tv i was making sure to watch it or tape it and if i missed it i was sad and this david copperfield show a bit of an expensive ticket so chances are you're not gonna end up seeing it i feel like i saw tickets not super expensive too well if you compare it to artist residency it was the most expensive show we saw of the three okay so yeah

so i think i feel like it still is on the higher end of ticket i would say without like super bumping up a ton we were in the front row like front row was available uh it's with well why not it was not like a massive price increase to do it which meant that at the end of the show we got to high five him he well he walked by us we were a little farther back he walked by us and i grinned him so wide and i was hoping he would like fist bump or something and no he just barreled through it he's been you say he's been doing this show for a while this was not one that ended and began like chris angel has done a couple shows right and he's moved venues a few times yes chris angels but it still always involves him curing curing childhood childhood cancer right okay yeah

i just wanted to make sure i wasn't confused yeah i've also seen that yes so yeah you went to that too yeah pretty good we're not gonna talk about that this is a this is i mean that that thing is is fun but but yeah i don't think either of us could have predicted the wonder in store. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. I was grinning again. I was grinning so wide when the thing happens in the middle of this show that happens.

Yeah. Cause I couldn't, I wouldn't have predicted it. I thought it was along the lines maybe of a, of the Chris angel thing where it's like he cures cancer or it's like just a crazy sort of like silly pompous sort of trick or uh yeah like a just a crazy setup or something like that or but what happens is there there is a story i think it's almost divided into thirds the first hour is a is a is a very good dav Copperfield show. And then the last third takes a turn and he weaves a tale that you cannot believe.

But, you know, let me, just as he saves the magic, the real magic for the end, I don't want listeners to tune into this and be immediately told, don't listen, go to the thing. You're paying for this episode, so you need to get a little bit of fun, even if you do intend on on on seeing copperfield live the impossible so i think this is a good opportunity to talk about the other ways that david copperfield interacts with the theme park world

the main way being that if you went to disney mgm studios in the mid 90s is a little obscure but you might remember because this these signs were in front of the park, so a lot of people passed by them. There was sort of a double billboard saying, Coming Soon, and on the right was Fantasmic, which of course did come to Disney MGM Studios, and on the left was a sort of gothic,

torch-laden logo for something called CMU, Copperfield Magic Underground. graphic torch laden logo for something called cmu copperfield magic underground this was to be a magic themed restaurant that sat outside disney mgm studios that maybe you could get in from you know like a la rainforest cafe and animal kingdom yes you could this is this is such a weird reoccurring theme park rumor trope there will be a restaurant next to a park that you can enter from outside the park or from inside the park and you i think if you hear that it pretty much guarantees it will never come to pass like the great hall restaurant at you at like um universal studios hollywood like the big dining room from the harry potter movies you could enter from in the park or from city walk and that never

came to happen oh i didn't know there was a place that was a rumor that was a rumor they never announced that they never announced what we were seeing on message boards for a long time announced yeah yes um and the expansion uh pad is still unoccupied i believe oh sure oh they cleared land and there's just nothing there nothing's ever been built there it's it's around that area of phantasm like back that side of the park it's yeah it was like part of that it was going to be right next to yeah this whole new wing right um which like what a good double like copperfield's coming and phantasmic dinner and a show can you just to digress a little bit can't you enter and uh the rainforest cafe at animal kingdom that's what he said oh yeah okay so that one does exist

it is okay sorry um double checking while you said it copperfield magic underground cmu which by with those initials i'd just like to say I'm glad the restaurant wasn't called Copperfield Underground Magic. I'm glad the CMU was not rearranged. Yes. They just think those letters with torches coming out of them. So at least the order of the restaurant was good. Not much else worked out for this endeavor. First things first.

Okay, the only ways that this thing was in it, there was a sign outside of Disney MGM Studios, but also a truly delightful photo. And I, boy, I'm jealous of the audience members who haven't seen this picture. There was a promotional photo. There is the Disney MGM Studios logo on the left. There is a red magician-esque curtain.

David Copperfield is in a black turtleneck, and he is waving his hands, and he's making rolled-up blueprints float midair. They say, plans and top secrets and Copperfield magic underground. And you can tell that it is floating of its own volition because there is a ring being held up showing that there's no strings inside.

And the ring is being held by Copperfield's assistant for the day, Michael Eisner, who is in his dweebiest pose, perhaps, ever captured in a film. In evening wear, in a tuxedo. He's in a tux. He's got a bow tie, like a spotted bow tie is that what i'm well zoom way in is it mickey it's mickey it's a mickey patterned bow tie that is like so

crunching his neck to where he has no neck essentially i this photo is so delightful i remember just i remember seeing that sign in this picture and like oh my god magic restaurant this is gonna be nuts copperfield dressed like steve jobs yes like a turtleneck black turtleneck jeans yeah absolutely i wonder if he requested for like hey can i can eisner look especially dorky so that i look especially cool next time when you sent you sent us that picture with no context and i think that's the shorthand we have of every now and then one of us will find something that's just like pure catnip where it's like no explanation is required yeah and we'll like skip ahead like clear all right i've been clearly down the research rabbit hole let me show you what i ended up at yeah do you did you guys know about this restaurant yeah a little bit yeah is this the time square thing too yep yeah yep yeah so we're gonna do

this until you know some of that yeah okay uh the reason that it did not happen there was going to be one and two one was time square one was uh disney world and hopefully they were saying locations to follow in anaheim paris if only uh so they started building the times square one and this is like deep in the this is on broadway and 49th and around the street but they i had no idea how far this got it was 85 to completion oh my god yeah they dumped so much money into this it was a it's a giant it's a four story like massive indoor atrium that they cleared out uh they're they started building the i don't know how much of the outside ended up going up um but it was it was going to have a 40 foot tall copper field statue 15 foot torches that lit up with flame constantly huge neon signs that like all lit up and then went to black as if it disappeared and then back on and back off all of this power just on the outside of the times square

restaurant was going to it was it like it would have been as much power as an entire average 40 foot skyscraper in new york generated wow just the outside doesn't count the inside where there's many many copperfield statues they even refer to them as david's creepily there was it's full of david's every single hour a different restaurant patron would be selected to get cut up by an ever-revolving circular saw. So, like, constant illusions everywhere. And because of this, like, okay, it's an outside restaurant group that I think started calling themselves Late Night Magic. And Late Night Magic was financing this entire thing. Copperfield did not put in one dime himself.

That's the smart play. So smart. He had money to spend on buying Bahamas. Buying full Bahamas. So, you know, he's, because there's, they want this to be a restaurant where there's magic going all around you and you can walk all the way around it. It needs to be 360 degree illusions. There can't be any sign of trickery going on anywhere so he's noting everything

to death and rightfully so because this is his art form but his notes end up involving like what he's suggesting means we have to repour the foundation like we have to like undo everything so cause our skyrocketing in the specific quarter where he's doing so many shows it's like it's around new year's eve he's doing a ton of shows they can't they can barely get a hold of him but he'll call at three in the morning and go all right here's notes that change everything that you guys are doing there and in this quarter the planet hollywood stock plummeted so it's becoming clear that the bottom is falling out on the theme restaurant craze. So they, the late night magic investors start thinking, all right, we're building a great magic restaurant.

But with this Copperfield guy, we are sick of taking his notes and dealing with him. What if we staged a coup? What if we bailed on Copperfield and instead just plug and play Lance Burton, his main rival who played at the Monte Carlo for many years. That's not even Coke to Pepsi. That's Coke to like sub RC. I like RC Cola too. I don't even want to insult them by comparing that. Like you as a kid who liked magic specials.

Oh, you were an anti Lance Burton kid? No, I wasn't a Lance Burton kid. In the context of now, I'm like, oh, Lance Burton. I had a Lance Burton magic kid as a kid. Really? Yeah. Wow. So I wasn't so negative on Lance like Jason was.

I would watch it, but no, I'm imagining. It's important to contextualize your younger. Like David Copperfield, I think it's safe to say, one of the most famous people in america in the 90s right yeah which yeah just literally lance burton was not yes yeah yeah uh yeah cover this like just transcended the the the genre so thoroughly yeah i think that's what i'm reacting i'm not saying lance burton is not a talented illusionist but but like that, that dance subscriber, Lance Burton is going to be crying after he hears this.

Lance Burton doing a Vegas residency. What does he do? I think he retired. Honestly, I mean, that's fair. Wrong. I wish I'm going to make Jason disappear.

That's fine. I will. I will be murdered by Lance Burton. Oh, you know what? This is all, this is bringing something back up in my brain. Did I find a movie that Lance Burton produced a year ago and did I send it to you? Oh, yes, that's right.

Yes. Oh, my God. I sent you, maybe this might be two or three years ago. It's very like shot in Vegas, shady. Yes. Oh, no, we have to do that episode too. Yep, yep, yep. That's that's right he retired but he has like made some movies since what shady other people are in this oh my god film that i totally

forgot about that yeah it's like filmed in like unlit corners of casinos as i recall oh it's called billy top it oh my god uh-huh master magician hold on it's from 2015 3.7 out of 10 on imdb uh lance burton paul draper o self-directed um boy huh wow okay if only this makes me have to ask chris angel why are you sleeping on make a feature film yes please imagine scored by jonathan davis of corn the so the soaring score he could get out of his buddy and uh when i saw chris angel of course pitbull came on stage at the end of the show which was unbelievable i was so excited so getting so yeah he's but he's buddies with everybody who's great pitbull's acting in the thing wow it's time the angel film film. Burr Wonderstone appears.

Anyway, Billy Toppet coming soon. Yeah. To Patreon. Well, but so the fact that I don't think our listeners have heard of Billy Toppet. It shows the draw that Lance Burton has maybe outside of just anything that isn't come see me do magic in a theater. So they do attempt the coup. They float by Disney. Hey, we're having a little bit of trouble david um hey we were thinking about maybe switching him after lance burton

and disney said do you think we want to cross copperfield are you out of your minds they're against the coup they said we're not part of it if you do the coup they still went to lance burton's people who said do you think he's just he's just a copy lance burton is a copy of no one you're just going to take the thing you built for copperfield and slap lance on it you're out of your minds not to mention you think we want to cross copperfield that's the power that copperfield had uh so the coup doesn't work uh just like all that does is slow everything down. And eventually the property is seized back. Having been built 85% out in the restaurant never opens. Now this is, this is a deep Jim Hill media find because he goes into all this and he

points out an incredible detail on the exterior of what was supposed to be Copperfield magic underground. And is today a Sbarro. That's all it became is a sabaro but if you look on the outside of the sabaro it's like very like backlot brownstone kind of vibe and there are cracks in the brownstone in a very indiana jones temple sort of where like as if the power of magic is surging through the building and causing it to crack apart so this random sabaro has the theming still in 2019 meant for wow copperfield restaurant man that's a magical sabaro yeah yeah uh somebody in the somebody there was a new york

times article to rip the lid off of all of this. And an industry insider said, I can't think of another single restaurant entertainment disaster of this magnitude. Yeah. Oh, and wait. And to that end, let me say the number. None of this was Copperfield's money. The investors, all told, lost $34 million with no restaurant to show. That's when you really figure out that there's no repercussions for rich people. Where does that go?

$34 million gone. Money isn't real. Those people were fine. The money's not real. When I looked them up, they're still on boards. They're fine. Of course they are. They're a healthcare board of directors.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, yeah. They're gross. They're doing fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is wild. Yeah. Running out of money, the 90s revitalization,

late 80s, 90s revitalization of Times Square, there was plenty of money there. I had, as soon as you started talking, I'm like, well, they definitely didn't run out of money, right? Because there was so much money floating around at that time. And of course, it's just insane egos,

like insane requests and stuff also building any thing is expensive building in new york city in times square is the most expensive thing yeah they literally for this kicked out two adult theaters that's what was there this is so much the giuliani era disneyfication absolutely times square um but yeah i don't that like and how is like even it's like we're in a weird corner now and it's like a sublet with bucca di beppo but still how is planet hollywood in times square how is like this decaying brand with decaying carpet like the filthiest carpet in that in that uh times square planet hollywood uh how is it how can it afford that how that uh times square hollywood uh how many how can it

afford that how planet how many planet hollywoods are left six or something like that one in disney springs disney springs time square i just this year vegas yeah it's still in caesar but it moved it downgraded it downgraded in time square okay i eat at that time square one a couple times a couple times in the 2000s yeah i think erin had her erin moe fitter 13th birthday there i believe and we went and had champagne there on the night of our fifth wedding anniversary very recently yes yeah we did not have our meal there let me say that we're not that uh ironic Is there any connection to, we talked about this a little bit on our City Walk Saga, Wizards restaurant, which is a magic themed restaurant. Very, what, three stories?

Four stories? Yeah. That seems very similar. I wonder if there's any connection. We could look into that probably maybe not obviously just a great idea for a restaurant that yeah like led the way but shouldn't that have been proving by that point that it wasn't going to work i don't think wizards was thriving necessarily uh-huh 98 or whatever yeah i guess i mean i guess they thought well we

have instead of just a generic because in wizards there was like a level that was like fantastical magic with like a merlin type yes so they didn't have like a star like copperfield attached so they were like well they just have a generic merlin to kick it over the edge yeah and of course if you know really at the end of the day wizards was a a themed restaurant and you know a very well at the end of the day, Wizards was a themed restaurant, and, you know, a very well-themed restaurant with good shows, but what Copperfield wanted to build, his quote, was an interactive entertainment experience from which you won't want to escape. I think you're going to want to leave the restaurant

at the end of the night. You would think. This feels like the spot to mention, you know, the Lionsgate property that was supposed to go in Times Square, of course, collapsed recently. Guess what I just read last night? Lionsgate to build production facility in Yonkers, New York, right outside of New York City. Yonkers, where some of Hello Doy takes place in yonkers um uh so they're building production they're building a back lot but they are saying there's going to be room

for themed entertainment there is a universal studio really potentially yeah whoa yonkers now but i think it's working it's not working with the people who pulled out of the Times Square one. It's working. I think it's going to try to just replicate the stuff they're opening in Asia. Isn't there a Dubai? It's part of something called Motion Gate. Yeah. The multi-story Lionsgate Park in Asia, I think, has opened.

So, I think they're going to try to replicate some of that. In Yonkers. Is there anything like that in Yonker? I don't know what's in Yonkers. Is there kooky-themed bullshit there at all? No, I think just a plot of land was available. Wow. And there's...

Where are, like, the sounds? Because they shot 30 rock on sound stages in new york cup silver cup in queens i think silver cup studios yeah so that's how far is that from yonkers i don't know well yonkers they said like 30 minutes up the hudson was the the way the article described it to me and i'm like well that's not super helpful like if concurrently they had been filming 30 rock and then you could also go on a in a themed experience where you you get to experience what it's like to have alec baldwin scream at you yeah you're going to dolby surround

sound theater to replicate the terror of baldwin yell yeah so i'll be keeping an eye on the lionsgate yonkers uh campus please if you can just major in this topic for us and update us whenever you can't that's you can set up a google alert for multiple words like i can i can quote the the phrase lionsgate yonkers and it'll send me right universal studios hollywood lionsgate studio iconic themed entertainment names what if this starts the whole like how disney started like well supercharged the orlando scene like this is just the start of yonkers being a destination for all the major companies to build new parks oh sure and then like some other like you know nichey like you know like tyler perry's company ends up building a competing oh my god a religious

like a theme park slash chapel disney will be like literally the opening of wally starts with that hello dolly song uh with michael crawford singing there is a world outside of yonkers they're gonna be like like how do we get him to stop saying yonkers we gotta mute that somehow but they're gonna remove it from all they're gonna remove it but leave in that when he says like the world outside this hick town like he roasts yonkers like yonkers yeah yonkers is kind of like a like a sub i think people might live there if they work in new york but it's like kinetic it's like people you live in connecticut you go to new york to work you live in yonkers you go to new york to work okay sure sure but it's also in like i feel like i any old like you know college fight song i feel like involves

yonkers in some way like that is my association with the yonkers go to a little spirited town kind of bug hey there's a lego land discovery center in yonkers so they do have bullshit yeah it's a lego land discovery center westchester 39 fitzgerald street yonkers new york the lego land yonkers so okay so westchester new orlando and there's an empire city there's a casino there oh uh there's a hudson river museum so this is a so maybe this is a city on the grow i guess the ride ruling keep your eyes on yonkers yonkers is the new orlando tired orlando wired yonkers um inspired uh dog patch us well and whatever happens there uh the other thing and jason you alluded to this copperfield essentially has built an immersive themed experience and i'm talking about at his islands islands of copper

field bay aka i think musha k is is the name of it um did you know anything about this it seems like you've looked into this a little bit i just clicked on like it's literally the corner of his website was like and check out these islands. And I was like, what? He advertises the islands? Because I knew he had at least one island. Yeah. Well, he has 11. Okay.

It's the Exumas, not far from it. It's the same stretch of island where the fire festival happened or didn't happen. Okay. If you want to view it. I didn't realize exactly that you could go there i was on my way out the door this morning and like oh no shit more rabbit hole i'm almost glad i don't have more because we gotta we gotta get to the show but uh you can go if you get a you can get up to 24 friends together and all this experience will cost you is uh i believe 35 000 but you will have you'll be on a beautiful island you will have

private lodging unless it's a weird lie like the fire festival uh and you will get to there are if you go to the website for this thing experiences and attractions like there's a whole i saw i found all this from an article about his sort of like reprisal of you know like uh you know he had kind of a rough um you know 2000s with various you know allegations and things but al copperfield is on the rise and he's doing this new show that we're going to get to in a minute but he's also uh making his resort this tropical resort with all these amazing things and in this article i don't know how much of this actually came true but in 2013 at least this was going to or i guess it says it had it then this is the tropical resort has a company of trained macaws that clean up beach debris what huh the trash is picked up by macaws

or eaten by them yes macaws eating garbage macaws will eat your cans. Just throw your beer bottles on the ground and our macaws will chew up the glass for you. And an outdoor movie theater that magically appears on the beach before moviegoers eyes. Oh my God. That's represented on the website. It's called like David's Drive-In. Oh my God. And like a kooky 60s logo. Copperfield and then, okay.

Copperfield is designing a James Bond inspired spy hunt for guests complete with a helicopter that will be fitted with computer generated motion sensitive laser guns. Computer generated? The guns are? Generated? Does he mean 3D printed? What's that talk? What?

You get in a helicopter and he designed a a hunt for you i don't know i honestly i don't even know how to speculate on what that means i don't either what i want to know is how how far away are these islands from little and big saint james the epstein islands because copperfield's on the flight logs he is right yeah he is he definitely is yeah it might have been a tunnel from one yeah he could just he could avoid's on the flight logs. He is, right? Yeah, he is. He definitely is. It might have been a tunnel from one to the other. He could avoid being on the flight logs more if he just popped into that slide. Yes. Yeah, no, I'm sure all the islands, all the horrible sex islands, the pedophile islands

are all connected, I'm assuming. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so anyway. Chaholta just has fun and practices flying, though. He's fine. He does a little soft anyway. Travolta just has fun and practices flying, though. He's fine. He does a little soft shoe. Just a little bit of fun. There's nothing strange going on with him.

You're right, yes. He's great. He's the most normal. There's nothing odd. Just practicing takeoffs. When I think Josh Travolta, I think have it a regular one, you know? That's what I'm thinking. A good old boy.

He's always the Danny Zuko he always was. you know that's what i'm thinking a good old boy just he's the always the danny zucco he always was yeah that's right nothing to see there i so there is on his on this website for the islands a listing for whatever this is it's called the treasure of copperfield bay oh my god this adventure created, written and scored by David Copperfield and his creative team scored. He did the music too. It'll take you and your guests to exotic hidden destinations on Musha K Island. Uh,

from, uh, there are live pirates who will guide you on your journey with clues filled with magic and wonder. It's a three hour adventure. And then, and then there's stills that go by on the website including the most spongebob tom kenny wraparound pirate you've ever seen this look at this cheap

shit anyone done this i can't imagine has anyone gone to his weird island and if you're a rich person if you're if you're a person with hundreds of millions of dollars you are probably not a weirdo like us who would want to do this guy like this seems to be marketed this is the kind of thing that people would love to pay 30 to do yeah and still you'd be like well 30 a little steep instead this is a thing because it's a thing that he designed on a private island you pay the 30 grand to get your group there and then if you want to do this thing which is optional and you want to get the pirates out to do the little show for you, extra 20 grand. What?

Yes. This is not complimentary to the 30 grand. The treasurer of Copperfield Bay is going to send you back. They're probably equity actors. Yes. We've discussed equity fees recently. Yeah. Is this just a trick to get you on his island so he can abuse you?

The hunt is you. You're being hunted, clearly. Right. I just saw Ready or Not, which is about that and this is just a version of copperfield's ready or not where he gets you to his island and you get hunted by this 62 year old magician anyone stupid enough to want to come meet pirates fifty five thousand dollars to get hunted by i can't even imagine what we're building to what this show is i've also i'm gonna i'm gonna get to the show i let me blast through the rest because it fades from this cheat this halloween store pirate rush to a photo of he looks like an old like soldier or general or something and i on this flash website that is built it pan

it's like slowly tilting up a photo and like okay so it's like a civil war soldier guy or something and then it gets up to his face and he has no face oh no he is a clone stamped out faceless man so you get to learn about this i guess in your adventure uh and then uh oh and oh i'm sorry this is separate than the spy thing uh because there's a whole other section called musha force musha being the name of the k but then they still put periods in it like man from uncle m-u-s-h-a you and your guests will experience musha force the ultimate super spy island adventure you battle enemy agents you solve the code you save the world all of this is live with secret weapons laser beams helicopters live the magic of the movies right on copperfield bay

there's he built a theme park that no one knows about or could possibly afford that still might not be real yeah maybe not we don't know there's no there's no proof and i bet it's like not photographable right you're you have to surrender your phones when you get to his island i'm sure i yeah for because of the other stuff because you have to do the stuff that they can't talk about on the website right how did musha k hold up under hurricane dorian who knows we could be talking about something that isn't there anymore that's true yeah yeah the whole island is an illusion yes uh um which is if he has like evidence to burn he's like oh phew hurricane okay that works out and one of these sweeps through every couple years i can like lose quote unquote some shit the fbi was on epstein's island and they were like he was like oh they're

awfully close jesus christ how can i throw him off the trail mirrors and computer generated weapons we were taking our copters to the island and it just flat out disappeared um and then but just but then also like then i also read that there's some scuba diving adventure where you end up at a statue. He got a famous sculptor to build a thing. It's like a waterproof underwater piano. They dropped this off the coast of the island and

there's a statue of a mermaid leaning up against it, beckoning you as if to play the piano. And I don't know how this part plays out, but apparently this underwater statue was custom scored by will i am from the book oh my god of course it was i only found one article that mentioned this i'm like what does that mean if you're scuba diving you can't be listening to music he scored he made music that's

only for one scuba diving expedition what the shit i mean i don't even know. Yeah. Of course, Will. I am. That is the right person to have scored it. A thousand percent. Yes. Like just in between, like, well, right. You know, I'm pretty busy making the new entertainment tonight theme, but for you, David. And then one more thing. There is a little section on this website about where...

Descend to an underground tunnel and emerge into another world. A world populated by the smartest, friendliest monkeys you've ever met. Oh, my God. Jesus. What does that mean? If you wish, they will hug and climb all over you. I think whether you wish or not, they're going to do that. So they will lovingly touch your eyeballs and, whether you wish or not, they're going to do that. So, they will lovingly

touch your eyeballs and if you wish eat them. And rip your genitalia off because that is what they do if they're angry. Jesus Christ. Remember folks, the code word is Fidelio. Fidelio. Wait, and then, well

what the fuck? I didn't even get to read this. Travel long hidden walkways in their jungle forest while the monkeys read your mind and draw pictures of you. What? If you ever choose to leave this nature nirvana, and if you're able to find the door through which you came, huh? So this is an inescapable monkey cave. Escape room. Yes. it's an escape room with full of live monkeys where unlike most escape rooms there isn't like the hour window like you might have to live in the monkey copperfield's monkey cave forever but the caveat

to all of that is that you read that big description a very specific description about monkeys reading your mind and then it says coming soon and he was talking about this in 2013 let me just double check this is a real episode right i didn't just take dayquil and nyquil too close together and my brain is exactly the same way having not really had a chance to like i'm refining this information and wait we haven't even gotten to what we're really here to talk about right uh yeah this is i i feel like he is a mad man hey he does he i'm sure after just hearing that he should probably be he should be in prison for sure like just if that's actually what he's doing to people on an island for capturing monkeys and say and like whispering

like love them love the love the humans go um now let me throw on top of all of this that this this bizarre like modern day tootin common just like this bizarre figure island owner monkey trainer i've met this man i spent several hours with david copperfield let me show you if and i'll post this on the twitter here's a photo of me and this fucking guy through funny or die in 2011 you're not five in that picture that's no seven years ago long ago we filmed for some reason he suddenly wanted to make a video that's about how harry potter ripped him off uh why i don't know and then he and his team went and found a bunch of weird similarities between the harry pot Potter world and his story including the bizarre fact that Daniel Radcliffe's

first on-screen role was as David Copperfield. Dickens' David Copperfield. Bizarre coincidences. He also probably saw Billy Toppet and he wanted to top it. Yeah, I think so. That's why I am enlisting producer Will Ferrell

to take me to new cinematic heights but i spent and i was there was this bizarre where we like got on a plane and then landed and we're like at a grabbing a starbucks from a henderson strip mall and then the producer was like oh uh-huh uh-huh here scott it's david what the fuck and it was just him like hi scott it's me david and i'm like we're like next to a target where we're like buying props and like this is so fucking weird um and i we got to go to his facility and his only rewrite on the script was like don't call it my warehouse call it my consortium of wonder solid punch up but then we're in this weird room that's full of like all of Harry Houdini's stuff. Oh. And he had a mega Patrick Nagel of himself.

Those 80s paintings that I based my movie on. Like a giant like, you know, like floor to ceiling Nagel of himself. Wow. Bizarre place to get to hang out for a little while. So I've met this man. This man who Disney said, do you think we want to cross him? This man who's been capturing monkeys worldwide. Did you get a sense of his bloodlust when you were with him?

Or did he just seem like an odd man? I should mention that I spent the night in a Houdini closet with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, we had a lovely night. He was quite a gentleman. And the monkeys were very tender with me as well okay well that's good at least it was a wonderful trip wow uh so let's not disparage this gentleman anymore okay uh so with all that the show um and i what i think

is so insane is that no one's talking about this show. No. How are there not people screaming from the rafters? Do you know what David Copperfield does every night at the MGM? The trailer, quote unquote, for the show, the promotional video on the website, is the most generic kind of like, come to a live show, sort of like, you would probably see it if you're in a Vegas hotel room, 15th side, they just play a million of them back to back of like come to this musical come to the show come to the king todd exhibit you know yeah and it's like footage from his old specials from the old tv specials yeah yeah yeah um and and and one thing to say is that when you're there you feel like you are in a taping of one of those specials there are broad really sharp broadcast cameras it's lit very well uh probably

to keep him looking his best um it's uh just like right i mean like you feel like you're just in like a high-tech it's such a slick great presentation yeah i it was honestly it was a little um the chris angel show is in like a bigger theater and it's kind of in what i it seems like a newer theater honestly it was a little it was it was just seemed like a bigger theater and it's kind of in what i it seems like a newer theater honestly it was a little it was it was just seemed like a little bit the theater was something a little old like a little old when the show started i was much more uh impressive vegas yeah i was i was surprised by how small it was um but then in the lobby it's like there's a little nod to what happens in the lobby.

I'm just saying the whole presentation of going in. The thing that we're building to, there is a little statue that is your clue. Easy to miss. And do you have any idea, Jason, what we're... Have you been there? No, no. Okay, okay. I have been to Vegas. When the reveal happened, I was like, oh, this is familiar to me.

I have seen this in passing because i've stayed in that hotel a lot i had not seen it i was just so shocked i didn't notice the little nod to it i was just i want to say the lobby has this plaque yes that is like a giant plaque this is what you're talking about right yeah uh and there's a giant picture of his head in what you're showing me and yeah there's and basically it just says that um and there's talking about like the society of american magicians what they've declared for him and they say that the site is basically society of american magicians hereby proclaims david copperfield magician of the century here and for uh forevermore to be known as the king of magic okay michael jackson s he's the king of magic yes and there's

this odd um statue of him a bust you remember that you've this varied noble looking off dreaming up more illusions and there's like the statue of liberties coming out of his uh lower half right because that was a big thing floating out of out of his heart. Yeah, and more like him emerging, his head emerging with his butterfly on his finger. These are all free to see just in the lobby. Yes. That's the thing I love about all the Vegas Casino. You can like you know, you can like swim in the bath water of these shows without going to see them. Yes, and like a great illusion of course in this photo, I of course course, now notice.

I will only show it to Scott. Jason, look away. All right. There is. Our buddy. Our buddy. Oh, no. Just so to say.

So now is the time. Like, truly, if you ever think you're going to see this show, depart now. I hope you enjoyed hearing about Musha K. But if not, let's spin a tale. The show, the main show itself, I don't have a ton to say about. It's just a pretty good show. Here's what I'll say. The show starts and, you know, there's some illusions.

I've forgotten some of it. It's hard to remember everything. But the first illusion, and I know he's changed the show. So we may have seen slightly different versions. And I've seen things online that say he's workshopped this over since 2013. And there's different versions of it, which is fascinating to me. And they're not archived. So the show starts.

And again, I didn't know anything. I've never seen him live. I would watch the specials in the 90s like everyone else, but I wasn't obsessed with him or anything. Of course, I was more of a lance burton kid um but he starts out and he appears in this i'm assuming this is the same for you it's the box the box is empty it's a huge box and they turn it around i think and then he appears on a motorcycle yes inside the box yes and it is immediately clear to me oh he's over this he's overdoing he's overperforming he i mean i'm not overperforming he's overdoing the act of performing he's on the he's on the bike i don't even kind of have a good sense before this of what he looks like he obviously

has his dyed jet black hair he's in his 60ss. He looks like he's wearing football pads almost on the top part of him. He looks real puffy up here. I don't know if he's working out or it's fake. He's wearing a man suit. Yes. If there was a wacky gender swap comedy and somebody needed to go pretend to be a football player. Is it out of the realm of possibilities wearing like the George Michael Arrested Development muscle suit?

Because it does, it looks odd. It doesn't look like he's just like a jacked 60 year old, which I've seen. Look, I follow wrestling. I know what jacked 60 year olds look like, but this was looks odd to me. Yeah. Cause he's still like little, he's still very little. Yeah. Oddly proportioned.

Oddly proportioned. proportioned yes so i'm but very similar to one time i got to see barry manila walk through a lobby in vegas and sort of similarly just like perfect like his head was just floating on air the best posture i've ever seen so maybe there's just like i don't know maybe there's weird like pre-mummification techniques all these ve Vegas guys are starting to install in themselves. Right. Or he's just getting like pec injections and bicep injections and neck injections. So immediately he gets off the motorcycle and he's going half speed, you know, quarter speed for like a performer. You can sense it from a performer and it immediately

is clear it doesn't reveal it's immediately i go i got so excited because i go this is an extra element i didn't even think about i go oh nobody even told me oh he's sick of this shit yeah which i was immediately delighted the audience we had so checked out didn't give a shit about the show it was so weird and like they were doing their best to rev everybody up, but they did not care, which I think made him care even less. So I was in heaven immediately to see this, you know,

legendary magician not be forced on all sides. And I was like, Oh gosh, this is already good. So I ready, I was just like, okay, maybe this is what everyone was saying we're here just to see this checked out guy go through the motions with this

tone that's just extremely nothing he's putting like three percent effort into it yeah as a child i always wanted to live the impossible and now i have the chance to every night yes and sort of and the only things that he makes a point he'll like he will learn like what's your name jason all right now jason here is going to and that's the only thing he's, there's the blanks. He does have to remember the names of the people he brought up. Although it would never be you. It would be like a beautiful international woman. It's always Alessandra.

It's always a beautiful international woman. That's so they always go to that. It's a woman who can't speak English very well because it's such an easy joke because they might not understand what he's saying. There also kind of like hello hello i'm over here right he's very fun of their lack of yes it's an easy magician yeah it's weird it's weird uh and also i think i was trying to figure out how many people are plants because i suspect maybe there are more plants in there than you would think i think uh our friend matt mazzani uh was alluding to your theory that like all was they all might be almost everyone is plants yes i think there's a decent chance one of 12 legitimate audience members in the

that's why they're not into it because they're there every night it's honestly highly possible that like they make 700 a show and that it's mostly plans because because what happens is when they do something with audience participation he like goes you know and i'm gonna throw the frisbee and the frisbee frisbee and whoever catches a frisbee and then he'll throw it and he'll be like we need a female we need a female all right we didn't and then all of us for no reason he'll just go no no no okay now you throw the frisbee again and then they'll throw the frisbee and he'll do like three or four times and there doesn't seem to have much rhyme or reason but maybe they're trying to get to a plant oh sure because he was yelling he's like no no throw it again throw it again yeah come on then he's like

really exasperated and then he gets it to a different person and he keeps changing how many times he needs you to throw it and sometimes it's immediate where it's like that's the plant or that's the audience member i'm gonna bring on stage it was really weird did he have a thing where he did a bit where he was like somebody whose sister had died no i don't think so okay he did this whole rap before about like you know this man wrote a letter to me and he said his you know he always wanted to perform a magic trick with me and his sister had passed away and he throws all this at you so quickly because he doesn't deliver it clearly and you're like there's a dead sister and a guy wants to perform and then he like makes him disappear and appear somewhere else maybe all fake might be all honestly might be all fake

because there are a few things revealed for sure to be fake that he does in every performance yeah yeah there is a part where the camera cuts to an audience member and he's describing what he's seeing on the fee and like and there's an asshole behind you yeah that happens every two there's a plant who's a guy who's like a dweeb and big glasses and the dorky hat and that that that he's always there and there's isn't walter's seen the show three times so we've gotten to hear things but like that always happens that always happens that always happens he also thinks i think the plants that he's always there and there's isn't walter's seen the show three times so we've gotten to hear things but like that always happens that always happens that always happens he also thinks i think the plants that there's a lot highly likely that every audience participation is a plant and jason i will also attribute the theory that all of this is about him just trying to keep the record

of the highest yes the the magician who's done the most performances and currently most performing oh i see so by doing 14 shows a week or whatever he's the like the number one like just sheer volume amount of show yeah he's beating chris angel who's you know i think maybe number two performingist at the at the moment maybe so in order to keep this arbitrary record up and he's as he has everything he could ever want he's got exumas why does he need he's a lunatic obviously uh he does three shows on saturday yeah there's a four a seven and a ten or something like he does and it's so clear how much he is hates it hates doing this yeah and it's just a compulsion just some horrible compulsion in his brain to keep wanting to do this yeah um so yeah and it's just a compulsion just some horrible compulsion in his brain to keep wanting

to do this yeah um so yeah and then there's also like there's a little hint to what's to come there's some some some playing with the timeline later in the show and there's a reveal to be somebody who you think is just going to the bathroom who like david mox oh yeah and that's revealed to obviously be a plant uh-huh okay um but you might think oh he's just making fun of a guy who has to go to the bathroom yeah but no sort of lured me in initially um you know what helps you remember a little bit the things that happen in the show because it's all a little hazy but what does help is that at the top of the show uh you give your email address and he sends you an email and and that you check your

inbox and like do you have it okay but don't open it till after the show and then the big thing at the end is that you get a letter that he's holding up and then and it the text says everything that you experienced tonight including with everybody's name you know uh anastasia was there and a young man named marcus blah blah like all of the specifics right which is why it's a has to be a plant everyone's a plant um well or i mean i think that photo thing is that like that's some outside url that's changed out and or refreshed from within your email well here's why i think it's not because on our list was a thing that didn't happen okay yeah there was a big review big like there's a big thing that happens

in the show from i know you said it happens and walner said it happens did not happen when we saw it and it's still in our list so if it was so easily changeable right wouldn't that come out yeah i suppose so maybe delete because it's a pretty big thing and it doesn't really impact the rest of the show so we can say uh he there he introduces a childhood toy t-rex earlier in the show and then at the end he makes it 30 feet tall and it's really cool it appears out of nowhere does like roars and stomps around the stage uh pretty incredible trying to find mine um but yeah it didn't happen for you did not happen it's like the plane in the water world stunt shows yeah sometimes too windy to fire that ball so would hunk over the wall he still uh he still talks

about it early he still talked he even did the setup earlier in the show and then just didn't pay it off huh so it like broke somehow during i guess yeah maybe maybe they're there to call an audible i'll show you just this this is what it looks like that is exactly what i was picturing yeah i was like oh i bet it's it looks like this and then it can be just filled in yeah it's very plug and play and then yeah like there's another thing like this where somebody has to say a name of an actor and then like all these word specifics from throughout the show are printed out on the actor's face did you still have that and it was marilyn monroe yes yeah and it was marilyn monroe in that in the recording so right that's what i'm saying like

they're always picking marilyn monroe it's like famous person was chosen at random marilyn monroe right so all right it's i think it's mostly plants i mean oh man i know he really he fools you but do you have your letter open yeah i have my letter okay well here then maybe here let's let's see if there's anything uh because you have wristbands oh i see what you're saying yeah and suddenly a word appears on your wristband, but they could maybe trade those out. Inspire is the word. Minus faith. Okay.

So there's probably like an array of wristband words. It's just a black light. Essentially you have a wristband on and then he's like inspire. And then what's the, and there's, do you have a zone about, we met the guy who's wearing blue boxers, the guy who hasn't been busy in 27 hours oh yeah yeah that same thing is it blue boxers hold on

and 27 hours that i remember that from the show uh-huh oh wait wait you select oh yeah we met the guy who's wearing white boxers the guy who hasn't gotten busy in 28 hours okay so it's a plant this is like it changes one little thing of it yeah and it's a guy and did you also have like a guy who probably of asian descent who couldn't speak english very well that sounds familiar and it was like oh he couldn't he didn't know and like he's like when was the last time you got busy when was the time you got busy or whatever and the guy like doesn't understand busy i don't know that i understand that i think i know what he's getting at in my life it's all strange person if you refer to it it has to be all plants then yeah for sure i guess

so so it's all these people and they cycle out these numbers to be different enough so that when we cross check but that's still too close yeah like you really would have to change it up just make 28 it's not the days it's not's not... Just make 10 different scenarios, even. Like, oh, hasn't gotten... You know, we met the guy who doesn't wear... Who goes commando and blah, blah, blah. But when the only things you can keep in your... When all your brain is capable of holding is just 20 specifics that you can change out.

Otherwise, it is exactly the same every night. I think as we build to the end of the show, this is essentially the same. Do we start heading there? Yeah, I'm trying to think. Well, the only other thing I want to say about just magicians in general, because I saw Criss Angel and this show,

so I'm assuming it's most magicians, maybe not Penn and Teller. They are so goddamn insecure because the whole front part of both of these shows are about, everyone told me I'd never be able to make it, that being a magician was crazy, that I should give up or whatever, but I didn't give up, and it's both shows.

Both shows are so much about them being children and people telling them they couldn't do this. You're like, you've been successful for so long. Why is this still the theme? People told me you should listen to music that isn't corn i showed them didn't i is that like the what is it the promise the turn the prestige is that just part of the promise is that like building a story sort of stuff why you're missing the step the revenge against your childhood well yeah that is what it is. Implicit in most entertainment is showing them all.

For this show specifically, the Copperfield show specifically, I don't know why he needs that element. His father will come into play, of course. But the element of him, I guess it's always about, don't give up on your dreams and stuff. Yeah, well, because they're such larger-than-life figures now, can you even imagine that once I was a dumb little child like you? A dumb little toilet person like you.

You idiot, peon. I belonged in a cave with monkeys. That's how shitty I was. Now I own a cave with monkeys that's so that's how shitty i was now i own the cave with monkeys now i round up the monkeys i tell them whose genitals to touch and who's to tear off uh okay yeah so that's the only thing so they do a bunch of perfectly fine illusions tricks fun what i like about is you're getting just a good it's like it's pretty it's legitimately good if if like sleepwalk through yeah lay very lazy i'm like the angel chris angel is still going for it he's doing like he's performing at full speed around and like

from the ceiling and spit like it's insane yeah like really nails or whatever yeah he's doing it uh i saw penn and teller when i was in high school at like one of the big theaters downtown in Philadelphia. And I just, I remember them, um, really giving it their all. And at the time,

uh, I think they were on a tour, you know, I think going city to city, uh, people are excited. People paid money. It's a night out.

Like I thought that i remember it being a very good show and then they also seem more like uh human beings yeah they seem like people you could talk to yeah sure it might be like not out of their minds um but i don't know i'm just guessing because coverfield is at that i mean like certainly within magic he is the he's the michael jackson equivalent so he's hit that i i don't know what's up but is it is there maybe like a being the most famous person in your field is pretty crazy are you like odd and pilled up and are you i don't know i was yeah i was trying to figure that too i was trying excuse me trying to figure that out too yeah what is i think it might just be yeah like um there's levels of eccentricity i mean magicians by nature i feel like are eccentric

and the world around it are eccentric but i remember seeing like some sort of tv show where like pen brought people to his house and yes it's a nice house but it's still like oh that's a house of person lives in you know it's like a weird modernist house but it's still like oh that's a house of person living you know it's like a weird modernist house but it's still in vegas you could see the road out you could see other houses around it you know not an interactive monkey adventure not an interactive you know yeah no he doesn't live in a spy game he has stories about eating like to lose massive amounts of weight like he ate only potatoes for a month like he had some sort of crazy crash dying i think he's got some sort of bizarre libertarian beliefs but again you can you stuff makes you can

see how a person got there copperfield seems like an alien friend of uh friend of the show andrew grissom sent me a clip from like two days ago of of copperfield on uh penn and teller's fool us show that was a oh yeah a short-lived show where they would have magicians try to fool them but then they tried to fool copperfield with a card trick oh and they did yeah oh yeah but he was like he's he's just like kind of stuck in that sort of odd like on too intense like his eyes are always a little too open so a little tom cruises ish yeah yeah yeah we're like he's always a perfect man vibrating on a different frequency from everyone yeah like there's just he's too intently folk okay well i guess they've

and he was like you could tell he was really upset to have to admit that they fooled him on one element of the trick he's like well, well, I understood some of it. I understood a couple of the moves, but then there was one move I didn't. So I guess you fooled me or whatever. Like he admits to defeat, which I think he must have been punching the wall. Like that's the energy I get from him. I could be the fool of. Yeah.

And then he never talked to them again. Yeah. Yes. Off the list. Take them to Monkey Island. Hi there. get from him he could be a fool of yeah and then he never talked to them again yeah yeah yes off the list um killed take them to monkey island hi there i'm ryan reynolds and i have a list of things i like to have on set it's just little things like two freshly cracked eggs scrambled with crispy hash brown sausage crumble and creamy chipotle sauce from tim hortons from my rider to tim's menu try my new scrambledambled Eggs Loaded Breakfast Box. playlists, you never miss a good song. With this card, you never miss out on getting the most points on everyday purchases. The PC Insider's World Elite MasterCard.

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I think, is it or am I misremembering? He shows the clip of his parents in the park from their younger days early in the show. Oh, really? I think that was, I think that's different than what I saw. Okay. Because he shows it like the first and that last 30 minutes. When the turn happens. Perhaps I'm misremember than what I saw. Okay. Because he shows it like the first and that last 30 minutes. When the turn happens. Perhaps I'm misremembering, but yes.

It's maybe smarter to do it earlier. I think he does it earlier. Because I was looking at reviews and since he's been doing it 2013, there are, I think, vastly different versions of this show. Yeah. Lost to time now because they're not documented online or anything. Yeah. show yeah lost to time now because they're not documented online or anything yeah and with like odd stray pieces jason was explaining that there's there's a really odd part where a duck comes out

to the song shake your tail feather and it doesn't really connect to anything else that used to apparently be a much bigger part of the show right anymore and he is i think he's on record saying you know sometimes it takes three four five six years to get this right wow so like he he's and it's yeah so he's been doing this thing since 2013 so it's still possible he moved it a little earlier let me tell you the version that i saw i will i'll set the stage and and feel free to jump in and tell me how yours was different but things are you know a, a trick, a big, a big trick has been achieved successfully. And then he kind of like takes it down a little bit and gets a little bit more intimate and a little bit of music starts getting into the mix.

And it's with the music, things start getting a little bit Amblin-y. We got a big old, we're going for Amblin feels. I'm starting to get nervous because you both have dropped some clues or words that i'm like oh i'm concerned go on um and i'm also going off of like we we have been smuggled a recording of this yes we have we will not but i i would have forgotten everything without the this uh you know secretly

absconded the audio was the song nature boy by lf well that comes in for it has been at king cole oh there's a two different oh yeah you're right because it's uh yeah yeah uh so he has everybody he says uh i'm gonna ask everyone to do something right now everybody make the everybody make this sign and he makes a little symbol. Imagine if you're holding up the number three on both of your hands in a way that involves your thumbs. It's that side of your hands. And then you sort of like bring them together in a diamond shape,

like your middle finger's meeting, your thumb's meeting. I'll have you do that, Jason. That's very magic. It's very magic. It's similar to either the Rockefeller Jay-Z thing, and it's similar to Diamond Dallas Page's Diamond Club. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Very much so. And he has everybody make that symbol. And he says, now, that is not Illuminati. It's a laugh line. But, of course, he's pretty bold being somebody in the Illuminati. For sure in the Illuminati. For sure is in there. It's not laugh line. And yet he, but of course he's pretty bold being somebody in the Illuminati. For sure in the Illuminati. For sure is in there.

That's not, it's not Illuminati. That was my father's way of saying, I love you. What? This is? And then Nature Boy by Nick and Cole kicks in. There was a boy. Let me play a little of it really just to give you the mood. All right.

Or though not. Shoot. Now we have an ad. Now we have an ad on here. Hold on. Hold on. I should have had it queued up. Okay. All right. Or no, shoot, now we have an ad on here. Hold on, hold on. I should have had it queued up. Okay.

My apologies. Here we go. Here we go. That was always my father's favorite song. Very far, very far Over land and sea That was always my father's favorite song. He said it reminded me of him. As a teenager, I took him for granted. I refused to tell my father that I loved him. I was so stupid.

He sent me a letter, but I didn't open it. And I always wondered what was inside. He passed away, and I never got the chance to tell him that I loved him and now I have nothing but regret. Sometimes I wonder if I could go back and change the past. How would things be different? Oh no.

And that's the story that we tell tonight. A story with magic and illusions for everyone who misses someone they love. That's the applause line. And then over the course of this By the way i wrote all of that out as well oh okay yeah i think we're both gonna be going out here hey take the wheel i don't mean to be doing all no no no that was great i don't mean to be doing we did not plan that by the way i don't want to take away the joy from you of speaking in that as as uh lazy of an eloquence as you possibly can.

And as this is all happening, you're watching an old 8mm film of his dad and his mom. Oh, Jesus. So we're reliving his childhood. Is he behind the camera? You don't really know what's happening. But he's bringing you into his world and his idyllic 50s upbringing. And then he reveals something. Major reveal. his idyllic 50s upbringing, and then he reveals something, a major reveal,

which is that his father, he was a military guy, and he only recently learned that where his father was stationed for a while was Roswell. My father was stationed in Roswell, he says. And then... Well, there's the term,

for me at least. That's where, in the... Where us, I'm sure all of us, and all of our friends who've seen this thing, even everybody's like, yeah, that is when the endorphins surge. That is when my adrenaline pumps in the theater and I get so excited. And then he says, you may have this might not be a full quote.

He explains that the store, the story he's. What did you call it? Is he called a fairy tale? Maybe. And he just says, you know, that that this this will contain this is about his father roswell and a little blue alien yes you heard that right a little blue alien yeah and it's just here we go and it go it plays in our theater at least to pretty much silence we were we were next to a couple that were from, I forget which state they were in, but they were staying at the Flamingo. It was a party.

They were like, that's the party hotel. And we were like, oh, cool, or whatever. They are not. It's just like they're dumbfounded. I don't think that Blue Alien does anything for them. But are you and Lindsay stifling? Well, I think Lindsay, who's right over there in the kitchen, was rolling her eyes maybe.

And I was just, I couldn't. I wanted to grip. Do it. Come on, baby. Make it happen. So is this the point where the set is revealed? Yes. Now we're in an Indiana Jones.

This thing could not be more, he's going for Spielberg. We are now in an Indiana Jones-esque warehouse. But also very steampunk-ish. Yeah, sure. A very steampunk, like, kind of lab warehouse setup. It's kind of, yeah, it's sort of minimal and mysterious. And, like, yeah, and crates and tarps. So was he just in front of a curtain before this, or just an empty stage?

I think there were things that, I think big think big illusions were like getting set up behind there yeah there's been a curtain that then they they changed that set out uh and he says i guess this is after he says my father my father left me keys to a secret warehouse with instructions not to open it until a specific day guess what that guess what that day is today Today? You're pretty good. So then he tries to open a crate, and then there's nothing in the crate. Looks like the joke's on me. Nothing. But then he somehow, I don't remember, fill in details if you can.

It becomes like his father is going to send him something from the past. Yes. His father's going to send me something from the past. Time travel isn't real. Everyone knows that. Time travel is not possible. It can't be done. And the boxes spun around. It's like a gall set up to make it.

It opened. We saw there was nothing in the box. And then the box is opened. And this is the moment where we meet. Was this on stage? Yeah. Because we had a different reveal. Oh.

Hold on. Let me check with Lindsayindsey lindsey it was in the middle right yes so it's a different he changed it really so he changed it so you got it on the thing i would just like to say the appearance of this i was delighted okay yes i was rolling my eyes okay okay what's your heart opened to our little friend right so he he does he it's not the box there was a box on stage but in the middle of the theater there's almost like uh i want to call it a like a containment a ghostbusters containment unit or something okay and he sort of appears from the middle of it he pulls him out yes oh yeah it's very it's extremely it looks like stitch yes

disney world so he pulls him up in a thing of smoke in the middle of the theater yeah so and at that point it's jason i have a photo there's only a couple photos of yeah there's not a lot and i don't understand if you knew it's fun to reveal this but like get the word out about there he is jason meet blue blue oh boy full name full name blue 32 um so the show becomes about david's adventures with a little blue alien named blue now blue there is a statue of blue in the lobby yes and he's labeled blue 32 so it's right there that millions of people are passing by this don't notice early and don't aren't noticing blue uh yeah so and and jason this is disney quality animatronic really is amazing and movable yes because he does stuff in the middle of our theater and then he picks him up and moves

him to the main stage and there's times where he's standing there's times where he's sitting there's times where he's talking and david is holding him this is this immersive this is this totally interactive incredible animatronic this is like uh awesome mode but 10 generations later yeah yeah the movements you're describing very much so yeah so he explains that blue was separated from his family in world war ii that's what he says yeah separated from his alien family you know an alien that got lost on earth and now is running around earth with us because his family took off that story that only this does um and he has a great message for humanity but today is his last day unless he gets back with his family yeah uh i think so and

this is all said via like pretty much how you just said it he had a he had a message but we didn't listen to him and today's his last day on the planet So Yep he's gonna die Like he's basically saying He's gonna die He's gonna die We don't get him back ET rules right Yeah Like he has to get ET Back to his

People But like why Why is it his last day It's not It's certainly not explained No Why it's his last day And also

And the other thing That isn't explained Is he came to deliver A message to us But we treated him poorly We mocked him We didn't listen to the message We didn't take it in

He's also a Christ Where yeah like he came to deliver a simple message that could save humanity but we we stoned him and we crucified him right and um lou is christ so he explained this is right before that uh blue talks of course yep and you speak you speak and he sure i do his may have your father taught me english david so he sounds like rocket his voice very easily identifiable uh i haven't i haven't seen confirmation of it even look at this guy talking but it's for sure rob paulson rob paulson the voice of yakko from Animaniacs. Oh, my God. And Raphael in the newer Donatello. Pinky on Pinky and the Brain.

Oh, legendary voice actor. One of the greats. And David. David. And it's a little bit Yakko. A little. When I was trying to figure out how to do it, it's like a little bit of a softer Yak. It's like a 7% Brooklyn.

Yeah, yeah. It's a soft. This is so much. It really is. name blue he was friends with his david copperfield's father in world war two what are you talking about and why is he brooklyn yeah well it doesn't make any sense david uh and then he he and one of the first things he does what's that lindsey is interrupting it is that's oh i guess you're right so if david's father taught him he taught him english oh thank you you justify it yeah that is really uh he taught me brooklyn english yeah broken english brooklyn english brooklyn english yeah there's a and he taught me all the capitals. Hey, let me sing a bit. One of the first jokes.

Blue 32 has to drive a piano master around the deep south in Blue Book. Sequel to Green Book. Please, yes. Yeah. An unlikely friendship. I was going to say the first joke is that he hugs David and that he explains like that. This is how we check your credit rating on my planet. It's not a hug. It's how we check your credit rating.

What? Really weird. And then he also there's we had a part where he says, son of a. And then David covers his mouth. And then he's right. And then he opens it and then bitch. Yeah. So, Conrad's dad taught him to swear.

Right. Now, this is the thing. You're very, this is such a quick flurry. You're introduced to this character. You don't have time to stop and think about everything. And you're just like, he came to deliver a message of peace, and he came to save humanity, but he couldn't. And then, once he's allowed to actually talk, he is profane and rude and weird.

And pervy. And pervy, yeah. There's a woman, he sees a woman, and he goes, she's hot. She's hot. She's hot. She's smoking. I had a,

Barbara Paulson, also the voice of the mask on the Masked Curtain. Oh, yeah. Funny, you should say smoking. I had a girlfriend here on earth a real wildcat she showed me things i never knew were possible and then it cuts to an old lady in the audience and he says hey what hey that's her are you still stripping that we had the same joke vagus humor old lady yeah i also i'm realizing now that his outfit was different too is this the blue you saw?

I'm not sure. It might not have been in a little robe. I think he had more of kind of like a, I'm going to say like when Jar Jar Binks is in the Senate and he has more of like a regal kind of outfit on. Do we know what we're talking about? That's sort of what blue I think was dressed in. So that might've been an early blue. Anyway, sorry, you were saying?

Yeah. Okay. Yes. your father's having english uh and then at some point this christ figure uh does what any good christ figure would do and he farts there is a fart there's a pull my finger oh it's a pull my finger he's like your father's a pull my finger. He's like, your father taught me to do this. And then he pulls and he... And then the audience like kind of laughs. And then a smell is released into the audience. Oh, yeah. And the smell is the smell of root beer. And David Copperfield says, that's root beer.

Do you all smell root beer? So, Blue f's root beer do you all smell root beer so blue farts root beer so the magician of the century doing a six-year vegas residency six-year long show still evolving and growing has essentially opted to have a great gazoo yes a voluntary self-applied no one's asking him to save a show like the flintstone wow eloquently put yeah that is yes i found the actual quote i was talking about before and this is how copperfield describes this section it's sort of like an animated movie sometimes it takes three four five even six years to get things right so he's he's seeing it as like his flintstones or his like yeah he's seeing it like that and to that end uh this character was not always called blue at one point in time this show

ran for several years and his little alien friend was named Attila the Hug. Before this, earlier we were talking about, like, inexplicable executive notes, where it's always like it's not relatable enough, or there's not enough, you know, it's not as, uh, too, too out there. There's no personal connection to the alien. But this just goes to show, like, if you have enough money, you can do whatever you want and get no notes. Yes, this is clearly an absolutely unnoted. Yeah, no feedback.

Yeah, the switch from Attila the, no, I don't think it's Attila the Hug anymore. It's Blue 32. What are these names? How do these fit together? Those aren't from the same universe. Attila, he's named like the this the hun what are you talking about i don't know why he was atilla before and then uh to your point if someone were noting this they might say maybe you shouldn't follow up root beer farts immediately

with the dialogue you came here to deliver a message we treated you poorly we mocked you something he already said we treated you poorly we mocked you what was the message love love love david loved love i've said i can say this once a day now love david love love david love love the message was love my message was love david i will mutter it to myself with no one around. Love, love, love, David. The message is love. The message is love. He's definitely pulling from, I think, Mike, what you called it recently, the Disney playbook of like nine words.

Inspire, faith, love. The thing I wrote, love, David. Love is the great force of the center of existence. Love would solve all the problems of your world. I failed. If only you would let it. If only you would let it. I failed.

I failed. I failed. I failed. I failed. My journey here was for nothing. I failed, David. I failed, David. It being David also creeps me out because David's like Prometheus and AI.

Like, David's always in these pre-E, you know, like origin Genesis kind of stories. Yes. Something about David. And it all reminds me of Teddy in AI. Yeah. Do you remember when you cut mommy's hair, David? And it also, with the Brooklyn accent, it also reminds me of Judd Hirsch in Independence Day.

My David. It's my David. We got to get into town i can't see my david my david knows what to do the message is love david i failed they love love so weird but right after rupert farts what the fuck and then we know why didn't what how do you mean you couldn't get the message out the time why not who didn't let you the whole thing is bizarre because it's totally shoots wildly back and forth and forth between like trying to be ultra sincere and important and then all of a sudden he's just you know he's farting

and hitting on women it's so weird i was I saw on one of the reviews that in 2013, it was a lot more comedic. Yeah. So there was like more of that and less maybe of the sentimental in the show. Because other, yeah, the earnest parts are so earnest. And as I said, Amblin-y, and there's cameras up on stage with him.

So it's like, and it's such a photorealistic puppet. So it's pushing in on him and pushing in on david and at some point he later he is like dying he's like cradling david cotterfield is holding a dying alien in his arms i failed your father would be proud of you but elsewhere like 10 minutes before it was like like everybody up on stage we're up all night to get lucky yeah it's so and then like hey dance shake it boy she's hot yeah she's hot when you said amblin the earlier i thought you meant like themes of family and well that's there too of course but i didn't even think to take it literally of like small alien dying like yeah yep small when you realize that when you realize that we're oh we're settling into an et ripoff david coverfield's been starring in

an et ripoff play every night multiple times in the 2010s he's in a cage he's in his own monkey cage yes he's getting he's getting touched by he's being lovingly touched by blue the only creature that will love him as he has skewed his father so he had to build a creature to love he doesn't have a kid does he i don't think he i think he's like constantly married and divorced and yeah i don't think so blue is his child he builds a child there's also got to be if you're running two to three shows a day, there's a warehouse full of blues. There's not one blue.

Oh, good point. I mean, I ran out of there going, where can I buy them? Can you buy blue? Where can I get a blue? There's one piece of blue merch. There's one piece of blue merch. Yes. It's for charity, supposedly.

Yeah. And it doesn't really look like him, but it's a fanny pack, right? So it's a weird little like cloth pocket. Not even a stuffed blue. Because if there was a stuffed blue, I would be looking at it, right? And there's a little blue statue outside the theater, but you can't buy it. Oh my God. That doesn't look like him at all.

This also, by the way, that one, what you just showed, the merch looks a little more mac and me ish well that has already been an et ripoff so we're we're in another down the line bizarre pseudo et i yeah i immediately i did think mac and me i thought it was like a little blue mac and me yeah um i wonder i would love to to see the evolution of the alien, because I'm sure if he's changing stuff as much as it sounds like, there has to be, yeah, as you're saying, so many. Oh, wait a minute, oh my god, this has been right in front of me the whole time. I just found an old photo. So, they used to email you a picture of the

celebrity you picked, which they made be Brad Pitt for a long time, I guess. But, in that email, Blue is in it, but I think this is when he was named Attila the Hug Because he is green They changed his color They've changed so much about him

Yeah, interesting I should mention also that he, David Copperfield Revealed via an Instagram Because he congratulated the designer of Blue On winning an Academy Award This guy is a sculptor and a makeup artist Kazuhiro Tsuji who did

the makeup in Darkest Hour to transform Gary Oldman into Churchill. Yeah. Wow. He was a protege of Rick Baker. He's the guy who turned Joseph Gordon-Levitt into Bruce Willis in Looper. Wow. And he did the makeup that turned

Tim Roth into the devious general fade a new planet of the apes all hail fade so this is major major guy so we design blue is he just on like constant like he's getting calls for the last five years like it's not right yet blue isn't right yet you know what i want him to be i want them to have bigger ears get away get can you uh you know take your face out of gary oldman's ass for a minute get back here and do what's important you fly to musha k tonight i will send a monkey driven plane let the monkeys do with what you what they wish If you encounter any enemies on the way, there are computer generated guns for you. Fire your lasers. And of course,

if any of that doesn't work, just give the signal of love that my father gave me as a child. Don't forget to bring bananas for the pilot. That's the main way to guarantee he doesn't rip your genitals off. That's your ticket. One of my favorite

things is uh on trip advisor the reviews of david copperfield this review just says an alien really two stars the only references are people who hated it and they said and somebody else says like i like the show but then he did this alien skit i mean wtf with that how long does the alien thing go on for 35 it's the full it's the last third of the piece and then there's there is some other he does like prediction bits essentially that blue is around but not really participating in just like get up on stage yeah come on up you look hot yeah that's when he yeah the one because again so he so we should also say that when they're bouncing back and forth tonally,

he's also set up, and now I'm misremembering a little bit. Oh, yeah, he goes, Blue goes, David, look. And then David looks over, and all of a sudden, an hourglass appears, and it's explained to the audience that once the sand run out, Blue dies. He's going to die. They don't explain why. They don't explain what force is behind this. And seemingly his family

left him a long time ago. And you don't know why his family left? Why'd your family leave you? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, it's the guy that got tired of me.

It doesn't, I don't know. Sorry, David. I have too many rupia farts, I guess. I can't help it. It's my gastrointestinal system. So they start

the ticking clock of blue dying. And that's why, especially it's so bizarre when they just, like, play Get Lucky by Daft Punk. And it's like, well, Blue's going to die. Why are we doing prediction games? Yeah.

I truly thought at some point he was going to make, like, time go backwards. He was going to bring... Well... Okay, there it is. All right. gonna break well okay there it is all right you see in addition to if there's if these if there weren't enough hats on hats on hats blew the brew beer farting alien from the 40s also uh does he just have them does he poop them why what where do they come from he has time stone he has access to time stones so david david sees an alien he knows aliens exist now he accepts that reality but david is still a bit of

a skeptic he tells people to they can achieve the impossible but time travel doesn't exist it's impossible there's no way time travel exists of course that's and that's there's no way and blue explains that he is a time stone uh he also explains, he shows David, he has a picture of him and David from the future, I believe. And he's like, what? This is a picture. He goes, good Photoshop. No, no, no. No, David, this is us.

Yeah. Real deal. And then Blue gives him a time stone, which is just like glowing rock or whatever. I wonder how long the time stone has been in yeah because do we know when this recording do we know when the recording is from uh i think it was two years ago two years ago because i was wondering did he see avengers infinity war and then that's because there's a time stone in that movie just verbatim good idea the show has been it's too

spielberg-esque it's time to make it more russo-esque right although it could because of course that's been in the comics for years obviously there's probably other media which used a time stone it's such a lazy uh-huh time stone time stone time stone i think that blue poops the time stones uh yeah there's that's the rigor and that's why there's root beer farts is it's like a precursor to um he's like there's a bowel movement and then plop time stone can i just ask yeah i don't want to ruin your prestige does he use the oh does he use the uh-oh does he use time uh-oh to make his father appear so he could say i love you by doing the hand thing you're very close you're okay i'm in the ballpark yeah should we should we keep getting there and keep going you're really close though yeah yeah uh somehow

i don't know why this happened he he's Blue says, I need everybody to give me the fingers. And then, like, what? Oh, no, not that. Not that finger. The sign of love. And it turns out that the dad learned the hand symbol from Blue. It's their species. It's the alien symbol of love.

So everybody needs to make the symbol and then that makes the time stone what i don't know i i get confused in here that's my notes don't make any sense i know my ask desiree and it cuts to an audience at some point also it cuts to an audience member there's another root beer smell release right and he goes no it wasn't me it was her right and then it cuts to a woman in the audience who looks embarrassed then it zooms out a little bit and there's a big jug of root beer on her table i don't know if we had that okay maybe it was cut because it is very confusing yeah woman you drink root beer and then that doesn't familiar that is pure root beer there is no food that where the fart smells exactly like the food smell where does the jug just smell

that potent maybe yeah is it just that yeah it's something about that what's the the vegas atmosphere it's being carried right cigarette smoke maybe that's it but then i brought this up to people who are like, no, no, no. The smell implies that the woman like drinks so much root beer. No, no, no. I'm confused. The other theory was that she smells like root beer because she sucked Blue's dick. Oh, whoa.

Really? What? But I don't know how that works either. Why would she have root beer then? No, of course. Do you not get this? How many people told you that uh that's two people wow interesting yeah no she like sucked off blue so she smells like root beer now but then there's a jug this doesn't make sense he this is all letting me know notes are important maybe yeah as i rant about network notes somebody

needed to come in and clarify is does she smell like root beer because she drank so much root beer or because she fucked blue it would be really great if david would ask you for notes afterward because you've worked with him before hey you're right i did give him notes specifically so yes i'm a creative figure that he trusts you know clearly you should email that email address back some notes oh you're right i have david's email we have all we all have david's email this message has notes david my message is revised david my vest my message is tightened up um totally he's really hot i like what she's wearing uh some tell us your i don... None of this is important. Somebody...

He learns what dancing is and then he dances a little bit and then David says, wow, it's like Bruno from Mars. Bruno from Mars. It's Bruno from Mars. Chris Copperfield had no idea who that is.

Some state chain gave that to him. Dancing to Daft Punk. Right. Why? Old song now and still... It's what they were still using, right? Yeah, Daft Punk's still in Why? Old song now. It's what they were still using, right? Yeah, Daft Punk's still in ours.

Yeah. Get lucky. No, it was her. Okay, and then somehow but this dancing and he learns how to dance and root beer farts but then back to love could have solved all the problems of your world but nobody listened and then he's dying and he's like, I'll never see my family again. It's okay.

You're my family now. David is his new father. But then he remembers the time stone. Maybe you can go back. And then out of nowhere, he says, David, in this lighting, you look like George Clooney. Two lines after it's okay. You're my family now. That is still on the show. And you know that can't get cut no the compliment the compliment of how handsome he is has to be in

the show why does he say that when he's dying it doesn't make any yeah i mean that's obviously a good justification as he's losing his mind because it's being taken over by again we don't know why are you dying we don't know today's the day he's been around since world war ii he's been alive since world war ii and it's not just like he's like he's very old and he's dying he seems young and again very vibrant but i think wait or is he young he's sent by the he's sent with a time stone in a crate by copperfield's father i'm gonna send my son who i know right i know in the 40s that my son will be a big magician with his own theater in las vegas except no i think at that point you're supposed to be in the crate okay you're right you're inception do you feel audience are you following this at all you're right but i guess i'm confused by the

hourglass because like why would today be the day if he time traveled if you have access to time stones right because if you because i guess my confusion was like okay i could see he was lost in world war ii and then today is obviously the day but if he was time traveling then like why do they send why did his father send him to the day when he's gonna die You know what I mean That doesn't make sense He should have kept him in If he knew because Blue already knew

This was the day he was gonna die It's probably more likely he could find his family back in the 40s Where he's from 100% because it just happened And he should have time traveled like a few days earlier Was he time traveling or was he just in the crate for like 70 years i'm not sure it's unclear again it's unclear stone so i think he's and and david says i'm getting a package from my father in the future but is that like back to the future too where uh it's the it's just been sitting at western union for 80 years oh right he's dying

because he's been suffocating in a crate. Let me out. Let me out. He's subsisting on his own root beer farts for sustenance. Eating and swallowing and regurgitating the same time stone over and over. Poor Baloo. That's all I have to say. So where are we at now?

We're getting to the end. It's all happening at once. It's sort of like a good case for time being not real too because I sort of feel like it all happened at once it's sort of like a good case for time being not real too because i sort of feel like it all happened at once and i didn't see it linearly time is a flat circle time is a flat circle but i think this is the point well also he keeps mentioning you have to get back to your family and to and to lucy yes lucy find lucy lucy lucy is lucy a member of his family, I guess? I'm not sure.

We gotta find the family. How do we do it? Everybody makes the symbol, right? Yeah. The symbol of love. The lights go out, and in the center of the room appears a massive, hulking UFO. Jaw-dropping, incredible. Incredible, yeah, yeah. It's flying above us. it doesn't close enough to

touch almost you're seeing every detail on it it seems dangerous yeah barely any clearance above your heads and like stood up you'd bonk your head on it it's god there's a i couldn't see it but there's a there's obviously something coming from the stage that's holding it up but it's hard to see it you can't see it you had a lot of lights getting blasted i mean that's part of it but it's euphoria in the room at this point oh if you weren't on board with any of this this alien skit now you are on board you are weeping it's amazing i hate to go back yeah but before you do the symbol you we all do the symbol once and it doesn't work okay and then he says uh david uh then blue is really upset because he's mad at us because he says they weren't focused they weren't

concentrating so he's like mad that we didn't do a good enough job to summon that they didn't really mean it yeah they didn't really mean it david with feeling idiots so yeah anyway the ufo and then the ufo goes through back through like through the stage essentially yeah um which is again very impressive and i'm not sure cuts to a video where the ship is hovering it's in the room and blue's in the room but then it goes outside of the mgm grant of the actual hotel it's grainy it's it's grainy ufo-ish looking like you know like the cell phone camera footage which also doesn't make sense because it should just be like a good quality looking footage at this point yeah that's like a go-to vegas trope because

remember the star trek attraction right yes flew over all the casinos um the very bad new york new york roller coaster yes cgi when that had vr you flew over everything and then a spaceship landed only the the casinos they had the rights to show yes only the ones in their family um yeah so you're outside the casino and then also when the ship is revealed blue yells lucy yeah and then cobb revealed over all the euphoria lucy was the name of the ship oh okay bring her outside his delivery gets really strange yeah uh and then there's the footage of the of the ufo over the mgm grand and then it's kind of like

in silhouette a little bit in silhouette you see the inside of it and you see blue reuniting with i can't forget is it one alien i don't remember it's for sure at least one it might be two but they like kind of reunite because it like zooms in on the ufo and it's just it's unbelievable and so insane and i'm just i and he says he gives there's a hug or something is it a hug before he leaves and then and then the reprisal of that's not a hug i was just checking your credit score yeah i think it's right before he leaves um and oh god i'm getting i'm so we've been talking for three hours about this yeah i know uh at some point over the course of this he says david your your father would be so proud because he made the ship appear uh-huh father would be proud of you

just put then it because then it becomes all about resolving the dad thing and putting words i think into his dad's mouth who's in real life is deceased i guess well it's i hate to digress one more time uh so he's dying in david's arms yeah and it's like the because the hourglass ran out and then before this is before the ufo and stuff and then it's explained just like the time stone and they go back in time and he's alive and then all that stuff happens oh yeah i think i'm out of order yeah the time stones it's my last one yeah i got one more stone got one more so like but it doesn't explain like how they fixed it or whatever he just gets the time so they go back in time and then lucy the ufo appears but then doesn't don't they, God, my brain is breaking. Don't they use the time stone to make the dad thing?

Yes. No, that's where to get, okay. Yeah, yeah, they do that too. I mean, maybe he uses two time stones, one to go back in time to save Blue, and then one to meet his father. I only have four time stones left. There's only four. I'll shit a few more out later, David, but for right now, i only have four time stones left there's only four i'll shit a few

more out later david but oh for right now i only made four um so david reads a letter from his father that's narrated by a ghostly voice of his father uh david i've been a little upset lately i felt like you forgot about your dad when you went to live your dream. All I want was for you to find your passion. You're not just living your dream. You're living my dream too. David, I love you. I'm proud of you.

And this is where I have to credit Jason Walliner for giving me the perspective of this man has trapped himself in a box where every night he is living out fan fiction that he's writing about his own father, telling him that he loves him and he's proud of him and it's okay that he focused on magic and stopped seeing him. Which for sure means that never happened, right? Like that for sure means that like his dad didn't accept him as a magician. And that.

Hence all of the early nobody believed in me. Right. And like. Doing a scene, a play. I always believed in you. When I said don't do magic, I was too scared to say I really want you to do it. So very handsome. And you look like George Clooney.

Love you, son. So you think this had less impact than when optimus prime says a dude you did a good job to evac and you on the you're comparing me and evac to david and his fake father yeah or like i excitedly texted you the other day that like you see in that new x-men comic professor x told cyclops he was proud oh yeah yeah yeah sure favorite trope uh proud of you he was proud of him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Favorite trope. Proud of you. I'm proud of you, David. But, yeah, getting that, having it happen two to three times a day,

I mean, I guess on Transformers it happens every five minutes, but still the ickiness of all of this. Jason also described it as between Blue and David, there are two robots who've lost their free will.

Right. Doing a play to each other. This is the, I mean, I shouldn't say this is the part where I started to think maybe the story wasn't true that he told. But this part is when he, so he does that. And I did think the footage of his parents in the olden days might be real to start. When David appears in the footage after traveling back in time, I realized, of course, it's not real. And this is just an actor he's hired to play his mother and father. You hear the neo of a ghostly blue disappearing. David, find your heaven.

And then he uses a time stone to appear in the footage that you saw way earlier. It's his mom and dad in the 50s. And then suddenly he is filmed on 8mm film. And he is waving to his father who smiles knowingly and they get to have one last moment together except who's this? He's some guy

and what a weird way to have a final connection with your dad that you are grown if you suddenly if one of us ends up having children and right now in the door walks a grown man, how would we know it was not an intruder, but our grown adult son from the future? Like, how would you know? How does this guy, maybe a father would know.

I'll give them the credit. Oh, of course, that's my grown except david has had a lot of work done that muddies the waters and he's got a weird upper tort upper body my son's abs if they did a reboot of the wonder years now with all the home video the home movie footage from the old credits it'd be like if they use that same footage but like fred savage fresh from the set of that just happened wandered into that footage like it's just yeah it's just an intruder looking at children and middle-aged people if i'm trying to figure out a park like hello yeah park Just a grown stranger at a park

Like anytime that happens In like Looper or something It's always like There's always a weird glitch Either like flinching Something feels wrong Or a character going don't freak out I'm you

Yeah yeah yeah It has to be explained but no they know And the score is so Amblin-y. So majestic. So triumphant. Da, da! The biggest moment you could ever imagine. Is it possible?

Is it possible? Love, David, love. Is it possible Blue is known to him at this point in his timeline, the father? Yeah, could be so maybe blue he kind of knows that his friend blue who he taught how to um hug people and hit on chicks uh he's he he knows that there's a possibility that like family members will time travel so you're saying he just is seeing a plan come together sure yeah not like a guy walk into a yard because he maybe he sent blue well they're in a park or they're excuse me yeah so blue because he sent blue into the future

so presumably he knows something might come back another hole in the logic yeah is that he sent blue into the future 50 60 years yeah long so the family members are all aliens they're either like very old or dead if they're like live in a similar way to humans yeah maybe the timeline's different though so why would he send him into the future to find the family now he's gonna see them all 60 years later doesn't make any sense this is the kind of thing that where you need a wrap-up show like fred savage is what just happens to explain what just happened david's of future past i so this moment i cannot tell you when david carverfield on in fake old film with a shit-eating grin, like, love you, dad.

This is the most deliriously stupid. You've bid goodbye to an alien. A ship has just appeared in the room. And I imagine in both of our cases, you are drunk. And it is just. I was not so drunk, but I was buzzed. So how long is this show hour and a half shorter than very short really that all fits in an hour and a half it's got it he's got to do it three

times it's got to do it three times a day go no intermission immediately yeah no no he doesn't take a break because he's got he's pounding through let's get it done um it is yeah and he doesn't even wait so rob paulson is not there live it's like clips yeah it's clips of of blue talking and so when you're saying cut like go like ask me a question is blue or whatever and i'll do like how david interacts with blue what's going on things are going on and then this is like he he barely lets him finish the sentence before he goes right we treated him poorly we didn't let him get the message out so like he knows he can't lose five minutes out of this show he's got a he barely lets blue finish if you were enjoying it this show might

go 20 minutes longer but yeah it's like bang bang yeah i'm glad i'm still under a wet a little under the weather or else i would probably be hopping in my car to drive to see this with mine. Here's the thing is, is Copperfield the guy we should be probably supporting with money? Probably not. That being said, I need to see this again. Claps,

put the claps in between. I thought, yeah, need to see. I, uh, yeah, I thought about it last time I was in Vegas.

Definitely thought about it. Uh, I don't know. And this all makes me want to do it again. And to see it from the perspective, like, the twists are ruined now. And if you go see this, having listened to all this rambling, I still think you're going to, the surprise will be gone. However, the seeing blue in person, you don't know how it works.

It's incredible. How is it able to stand and sit? It's got floppy legs. It's got stiff legs. It's an amazing animatronic. Wait, is it? If you sit in that front got floppy legs it's got stiff legs it's an amazing animatronic wait is it in that front row i mean anywhere in the theater looks great but like i'm like holy shit i'm like six feet away is it possible there's a person in there no no it's so small it's like a foot tall oh okay uh it's would like what would happen if you... The size of a big hog. It's like a baby that stands.

Jason. I'm tiny. I'm small, Jason. No. This is good. What if we... What if you... Like I was so interested.

Like what if he truly ever was thrown off in the show? Because I realize now, of course, everything that was like throwing him off, quote unquote, was all plants. But like, what if we sat in the front row with blue shirts on or something? Would he even acknowledge it? Would we get thrown out? With those blue pockets we can buy?

Oh, yeah. If we wore the fanny packs? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Like, because he,

oh, we've got some troublemakers here. We've got to get them out of here to the monkey mines no refunds enslave them force them to play pirates once every three years when someone coughs up twenty thousand dollars oh man you would go us both at gunpoint like with the in the back of the vegas like in the back of the mgm grand there's just some heavies with guns like well jason has been escorted out of magic shows before right i believe he got escorted out of crusade oh yeah oh really in vegas for trying to take one picture really quickly well we won't do that yeah but like if we were too enthusiastic about blue

maybe or like we were like it's a there's an alien it's gonna be an alien he's gonna say or like we were shouting the lines out before he did him oh god i yeah i well as disney said long ago do you think we want to cross david copperfield no we don't want to cross blue we certainly don't that might be one of the places in vegas where it is still like casino or like to put you in the back room and start beating you with the yeah like the uh the big well that of course turned out to be a friend of his uh of uh danny oceans i was beating him up no i meant the scorsese casinoino. Oh yeah, they're going to drag you out into the desert like Pesci, bury you alive. Yeah.

Bury him alive. Blue waterboards us with root beer. Stubs and fingertips in our mouths. Scott, I'm going to fart in your mouth until you wish you were dead. Don't you ever try to disrupt David and I's shows. Sweet root beer smell. We have a show here shows we have a show here we have a show here it goes perfectly or else you're gonna feel the repercussions smacks me with his little hand trust me this ain't just checking your credit score

wow he is a slime bet he is like a peshy. Yeah. He's a little greaser guy. Yeah, see? What if, yeah, what if he gets like, David eventually gets him so he's like sentient. Oh, no. David like, we have to perfect this. We have to perfect it. And then he becomes sentient. Then they have a falling out.

And then David has to get rid of Blue. Send the monkeys. Send the monkeys. Disappears him on his island. And that is the movie. The full prestige style magician rivalry. Oh my God, what a movie that is. But it's David Copperfield in blue. He was my protege and his powers grew above mine.

Tesla. Now you and I, the audience tonight, we have to go kill him. Make this sign with your hands. We'll use it to strangle him, his tiny neck. Elon Musk stands in for Tesla. His assistant is Grimes. Or Blue. There was a package for you.

We'll use his boring company tunnels to take Blue around the world. All the way to Musha K. Could he? He's toured. David has also toured before. Is there a chance he does another five years of this and then tours this?

Oh, God, I hope. Once he's perfected it. In an arena. I want to see this at the Staples Center. I mean, he must have a compound in Vegas, right? Because residents...

He has his Consortium of Wonder. Oh, the Consortium of Wonder. I don't know if he lives there. I don't think he lives there, does he? I'm not sure. But if you had a bunch of weird hidden Houdini beds, would you? Do some people

live in the casino that they do the residency at? I think everybody has really fancy suites. Like an apartment just to rest in between shows. Yeah. Yeah, or how Michael Jackson rented a whole floor of the Mandalay Bay, despite not doing a show, but he just rented

the whole floor and rode a little trike around and filled it with statues of the little green giant. Cool. From the food? Yeah, that's a part of the Living with Michael Jackson special. He explains to reporter Rory Beshear what the little green giant is. It's one of the strangest things.

It was an American commercial. It ran for many years. It taught children how to eat peas on you say ho ho ho jesus so that's so it's a lot of fun and that's why i have it here so wait a minute it's not the jolly green giant it's that little version the little kid little green giant there's a statue of the jolly green giant but there were two green giants i believe i believe jolly green giant had a little green giant. What, really? I think there were two. Oh. Huh.

Boy, here we're talking about the little blue giant. And we're finding more giants. Remember, Kraft told us, the Kraft father told the story about him and Tony Baxter meeting with Michael Jackson on an entire redded out floor of the Universal Sheraton. Oh, right. So I guess he just, the way you would rent a hotel room when you go to a hotel, he gets a whole floor. Yeah. I found, I pulled up a picture. There's a Jolly

Green Giant and then the Little Green Giant. Oh, I see it on his shoulder. Yeah, so that was Michael like the little. Michael had a statue of the big one. Oh, it was the Jolly Green Giant. It was not Little Green. Wow, but he had a blue. It was interesting. A green. A green.

It's green. It's my green. Yeah. So, yeah. I don't know what else to say. Go see. I don't. As much as that was all a line by line spoiler, you have to see it to believe.

I'd still tell you, Jason, if you go to Vegas. Yeah. You gotta go. It's unbelievable. And forgive us for, I hope nobody's mad about us spoiling all of this, but hey, it's out there. What I don't understand is why Blue isn't easily Google-able. Right.

I think he wants this to be, he wanted Blue to be an icon. He wouldn't sell the merch if he didn't. Vegas is its own biod't vegas is its own biodome like vegas is its own that's what you hear people i had this experience when i went to vegas for the first time of like who is danny gans and danny gans and he passed away a few years ago but he was like the one of the most famous people in vegas yeah and anonymous well in much of the rest of the country unless you had seen Danny Gans. I sent you a picture of a guy who performs

there that I don't know anything about other than his name, Tape Face. Tape Face! I remember Tape Face. I forget which casino he's at. He's a guy who wraps tape around his face. He puts tape on his face. I assume there's more to the act than that.

Yeah, exactly. He's got a show. tape on his face i assume there's more to the act than that but tree of the penis yeah exactly but it's uh he's got a show i saw it i've been to vegas two times this year he's it's uh he performs in the house of tape theater what it's just fuck are you saying thing this is all the masking tape right i am high on time stones hair it's the i believe it's the harris casino uh and there he is can you see that yeah uh swing swing it over here tape face we gotta know that's electrical tape we've got newcomers like tape face nipping at my heels i mean there's a show tape face building with giant jabberwockies like one of the casinos has the big jabberwockies i think they might perform in the copperfield theater yeah right across you can see blue

and then take like a hundred steps and see a giant jabberwocky mask oh yeah yeah it's uh i've been in vegas magic wonderful and by the way all this where there used to be a fucking theme park too we haven't right i can't believe we haven't done mgm grand adventures that's gotta it seems like theme park ghosts have infused this casino between copperfield and jabba hockey's mike and i by the way years ago did an improv show with like the one dollar version of those masks on and it's still a very uh a very unpleasant like i think my whole face was covered in sweat by the end like not a good idea and the audience members were like well we could kind of hear you and it's like oh right audio dampening it was halloween it was halloween brad and nicks atlantic city where i had like a black

mat like the the skin tight mask and then jab it while you use mask above that and there was a part where i like pretended to drink water and just splashed it into my face and it was like a funny enough beat of the thing but then i felt like i was getting waterboarded i had to like i like pause if you watched video of it i i like like i was like choking i almost died on stage at ucb franklin uh in a jabbawockeez mask i truly almost like pat like fell to the ground. I'm scared. Even you actually, when you said Jabberwockies mask, I just, I did have like stress flashbacks.

Jabberwockies give me PTSD. So be careful putting on those masks. Be careful with those masks. Cut, you can cut the nose and the mouth. You can cut it a little bigger. That's what I did. did how we all had this specific scenario so remember if you're playing a java walkie cut the nostril holes bigger that's so weird yeah we did that we had to cut it because yeah it was like really like it was sucking air

out of it yeah yeah did you buy we bought it from party city there's all the different colors on the wall you can buy i also then noted in the java walkie store there the java walkies masks cost like 27 are they the same quality yeah yeah yeah they aren't even branded it sucks anyway you had it on for three to four minutes we had it on for a full harold a comedic form you can't really abandon no oh my god and once you start yeah you can't like maybe yeah find that curtain and take take a breath well let that be a lesson why are we all trying so hard with all of these shows look what we did we did that live show and we made a limo and there's masks and all this shit we're all putting in all this effort look we each need to take a page from the copperfield playbook sleepwalk through the same show.

Over and over again for years. Over and over again. Now, granted, that does have million-dollar illusions going on constantly, but, you know, put in Copperfield effort. Yeah, all I'll say to sum up is that the thing is, obviously our live shows have the same message as Copperfield's and, of course, Blue gives. Love. Love. Love.

Love. Love. Make the symbol. Make the symbol. It's our symbol. It's the PTR symbol of love. PTR symbol

of love, Jason. Love. Love, Jason. Love. The message is love. The love, Jason. Thank you for teaching me about love, gentlemen.

You too. Thank Blue. Thank Blue. Thank you, Blue. Thank you for not mocking my message you survived podcast the ride uh fuck man oh i need a i need a cigarette i need a big joke if in one episode you could just do the show as jason and we could both be blue that would be really satisfying to me but that's just about it's just a regular topic yeah normal episode mine train yeah and then blue is also two blues that is the show we're touring we've got some live shows coming up and like oh we don't want to do a whole we'll be traveling we

don't want to do we can't do the limo that kind of props everything but the the pizzazz of you guys being blue for a live audience mike and scott is two blues yeah that'll that'll pay off i'm jason sheridan joined as always by blue love and love all right let's be let's beam out of here let's go back to our family use a time stone goodbye Let's beam out of here. Let's go back to our families. Use a time stone. Goodbye. Bye. Bye.

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