Podcast: The Ride - Unlocked: Dinosaurs Live!

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

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So I'll just say it in a few. Yeah, yeah. Well, all right. So it is this. I'm the Jason. Gotta love me of course yeah yeah i'm ready for my close-up mr deville i thought you would have argued to say that oh i should have like i have it i got it i got it there's your chance yeah we were recording so

that could have been this dark oh that's true no it is yeah no we're handling this business now well go if you if you'd like to, you don't have to. Oh, okay. Well, why don't you introduce everyone? No, okay. You want me to stop coming out with that? Oh, that's a good idea. All right.

Hey, welcome to Podcast The Ride, the second gate. I can't think of how to start this. I don't know. I don't have a good time to start this idea. Scott Garner is blanking. Mike Carlson? I don't know if there's a way to perfectly... Our brains are mush.

Daddy's brains are mush. Don't one of our hosts seem like they're one of the characters on Dinosaurs? I can't think. I don't know. You're tall like the Sherman Helmsley triceratops. That's true. I don't know. Jason Sheridan?

I'm the Jason. Gotta love me. Whoa! Ba-ba-ba-b Whoa! He walks right into it. I had written down that I'm the baby, gotta love me, and not the mama. Very quickly, when I was very young, quickly entered the pantheon of Jason, please stop.

Like, you gotta stop. Like, that's enough. You gotta, because dinosaurs was very popular in my household. You know, I have numerous memories of us all repeating these lines. The whole family. The whole family. And then I just kept. All right, everyone, let's say it.

Three, two, one. My memory is that I just kept pushing it. Wow, interesting. it three two one my memory is that i just kept pushing wow interesting you don't do not wake us up in the middle of the night screaming it uh yeah jason you're pushing it your favorite character in fiction baby sinclair you can't act like him anymore you're too old to just poop in front of us he loved it though so you're so a big fan of dinosaurs growing up the early 90s abc show uh with the involvement of of jim henson and the jim henson creature shop uh did we all uh watch the show enjoy the show what uh jason loves it what are your feelings, Mike? I have complicated feelings about it because I was fascinated by it, but it creeped me out.

And I watched episodes, but I really, I wanted to be into it more, but I couldn't. In hindsight, it was something I wanted to love, but I had an odd feeling about it. It might've been because the episode, there's the one episode where Robbie is like trying to do a mating dance. And I knew that was sex. And that was a bad thing to talk about.

That's like maybe my strongest memory of watching it when I was little. So I don't know if that's made me be like, this is an adult show. It creeped me out. Well, I was not, for some reason, I had drugs.

We're not even, I wasn't worried about that. The main thing, the main thing I was like, this makes reason, I had drugs. We're not even, I wasn't worried about that. The main thing. The main thing I was like, this makes me uncomfortable is this mating dance episode. You didn't have the D.A.R.E. program, but you had an in the household. So, but your parents didn't care if you, you could skip that for all you want. Yeah. We're giving you a personal stay off of sex program.

Yeah. Yeah. What was the, what does D.A.R.E. stand for again? Drug. I don't know. What does D.A.R.E. stand for?? I don't know. What does D.A.R.E. stand for? If it was a better program, we'd know, right? I was going to do a perfect joke with sex.

Young enough to do the program, not currently young enough to be buying the T-shirts, ironically, at Urban Outfitters. Drug abuse resistance education. Mm-hmm. So, well, it's not that funny if you put sex in there no it's not you gotta get the a out too how am i gonna do that well you got all episode you don't even worry about contributing to the rest of it you can just do your own project over there i'm gonna turn my mic

off no need i will not be saying to make a click, it kind of made a click. I think my feelings about dinosaurs, I certainly, I watched it all the time. I feel like there was a time, and maybe some listeners will back me up. If you were of the right age, at least in my head, and it feels insane to say this now, but the big pillars of kids' entertainment with attitude, if we're talking Simpsons and we're talking Ninja Turtles,

you know, I think dinosaurs right in there at the time I viewed it as, yeah, I like Simpsons and I like Ninja Turtles and I like dinosaurs. Wow. There's a cool teen one and they look cool. And who are the coolest characters on TV? Probably Bart and baby Sinclair. Ohclair what a star yeah um if you don't remember the show uh i'm sure i won't synopsize it very well but you know there was there were there was tgif of course all the family sitcoms

but this was the only one where it wasn't humans these are creatures from the jim henson creature shop uh with impeccable full body suits yeah and uh uh and and robotic uh you know however whatever you want to call the the faces uh um and uh and it and it's a very in the like the most traditional family show where it's big schlubby husband and the wife who knows better and the teen boy is cool and likes to date and do mating dances of course and the teen girl likes to shop i think probably is what i recall and then the very post michelle tanner uh stealing baby the catchphrases go to the baby yeah um and grandma grandma sort of golden girl grandma sassy yeah uh-huh uh-huh who's that voice was that oh that's a good question i don't remember was that a story

the big one was jessica walter was the mother is that right yes yes way before arrested development yeah yeah um and i'm so curious about the the my it's from michael jacobs who uh created boy meets world later so a very big 90s on abc what a resume wow yeah yeah indeed uh i think i'm wrong i don't think that is sally struthers is probably the biggest uh charlene sinclair yeah yeah um uh yeah steve whitmire is robbie mm-hmm yeah was he the voice though oh that's a good question i'm not sure. No, no, he wasn't. You know what I always loved on the show was Earl's boss, who I just mentioned, Sherman Hemsley.

Yes. Hemsley? Hemsley. You know, the way his, oh, it's not. Florence Stanley was the grandma on Out of Stoke, Eddie. Waste of time. Sorry. Pretend you didn't hear any of that. But I always liked him mr richfield and he would scream he was so hulking in that little office set yeah scream sinclair from that

little window yeah and uh a legitimately terrifying looking character i think i was scared of the show is kind of what i'm getting here because the show is scared like if i watch it now i'm not scared of it but i can see maybe in the same way that i was like afraid of earnest things there was something like gross about it and fright frightful to me they're all huge they're they're terrifying and the lips i mean the like the puppetry is fantastic yeah it's unbelievable much like ninja the ninja turtles movies and it's kind of the same technology, it's still weird and analog and radio controlled and wonky. So at some point, those mouths are going to contort into a really bizarre shape. Some of it is animatronics.

I saw something that at the time, this might have been the most expensive half hour episodes. God. Oh, man. I did. God. Oh, man. Yeah, I watched a making of, which was pretty fascinating, and they went straight to 13 episodes because to just do a pilot would have been $7 million for the one. So, like, you know, those costs are spread out if you make a bunch of them.

Kind of insane. They were that confident about something that could have just not worked. Yeah. It went straight to 13 i think there was two things i think at play one this is like one of the very last things that like henson had a hand in developing jim henson had a hand developing the other i saw it mentioned that the the immediate hit of the simpsons executives were like i guess people will take a chance on something weirder oh and it looks different and yeah uh sure that isn't the same old multi-cam that we've owned but yeah yeah yeah that's a big leap and to do this that kind of technology in these kind of suits on a tv scale as opposed to movies which is kind of the only place they'd been done and

still like sparingly you're looking at more per episode you got more suits than the ninja turtles movie i can't imagine what a nightmare this was to put together yeah like it must have like you hear the elf stories just of one generally one puppet just with massive long shoot days actors just burned out the puppet didn't quite work this is a hand puppet yeah it's a small puppet and ultimately just pop up where it needs to be and like sometimes the guy in a suit but yeah like this is everybody's wearing a dinosaur suit yeah and public yeah i can't imagine how long some of these shoot days were lineup of people with the like telemetric uh yes like you know the it's it's so impossible to describe but the little like sleeve but the little like it's like it looks like an undressed kermit that you put

your hands yeah so you're still puppeting it like a sock puppet but it's obvious very advanced and radio controlled so those signals are going into the face that's a few feet away so i might just turn the camera around besides even the set and how crazy it is and they're running steam through it and everything has to be custom built yeah and here now pan over here and here's like seven guys all controlling different uh radio mouths and they made 65 of these yes they're all in disney plus you can watch these and they kind of look like shit because it seems like they've ripped vhs tapes or like just really burned out digibeta masters these i think yeah whatever like they did not remaster the we've

talked about this before in disney plus some of the things look like oh they really they made this look nice and then some of the stuff and like it's inconsistent with disney afternoon stuff because sometimes i forget which show it was but you'll like watch a duck tales or a gummy bears and you go this looks like i taped it off tv 35 years ago and then some and one like another show will be like kind of pristine quality in a way i'd like it's random what looks good and what doesn't. Well, they can't all be the beautifully done Baywatch remastered. Truly, maybe the best looking show. Really? Yeah, the remaster process.

I don't know who financed this. I don't know if this is out of Haslov's pocket, but they went back to the film masters. Wow. It looks stunning. It is bright and bold. You can tell that it was shot on film. It looks better than some

movies that came out the same year. It's an impeccable remake. It makes it so watchable. The only thing, I'm trying to think, I'm sure they've done other shows, but the only other ones they've done, Next Generation and the original Star Trek have been remastered and they went and cleaned up some visual effects

and stuff. And then sold those on Blu-ray and DVD. So it's just Baywatch and those two? They just got to have the financing somewhere. Wow, interesting. When you're watching Seinfeld on stream, that's like they went back, because since that was shot on film, which was rare.

Right. That's really the issue. I mean, this show must have been, where was it? I don't know if this is a dinosaur that's a good question or film i feel like it's probably crappy video i mean as we're talking about this i i am thinking about uh back to working in various like in media storage media vaults and how much people would just drop digivate like just drop tapes or hdr like the master tape, like just shit would get dropped or like. Accidentally or they would throw it?

Yeah, accidentally. And then the original before. Mike, he means himself. Oh, I was pretty good. I was actually pretty, except with, have you ever seen a quarter inch tape, like a, it looks like a,

it's giant and it's like heavy and it kind of has a handle. i guess people would like try it like put those on carts like that was yeah i know what you're talking about yeah digibeta like it went like quarter inch digibeta hdr like those were the stuff like the broadcast masters um and then some stuff you'd say i worked on the star Trek remastering too at that company. Oh. And I tracked all the master film reels. And they would put them in a telecine bay

to redo the effects or redo timing and stuff on it. And then you dropped all of them on the floor. And then dropped. The episode where Data has has sex you dropped on the floor i was scandalized yeah i assure you a lot of those canisters already looked like shit sure yeah so do you think that all of the dinosaurs episodes were dropped before they were uploaded i don't think stuff was well yeah like this isn't is not exactly like you know oh they remastered all the hitchcock movie they remastered some spielberg movies and stuff the lesser film

story the lesser media remaster places it's just like it's just like throwing tapes to each other stooges yikes and then like one bit of film gets caught on somebody's leg so he starts running drags the other guy behind muppets labs like beaker and dr bunsen honeydew trying to remaster we take the utmost care those devices incidentally when i was describing the the gray puppets that go to the turtles' faces, the dinosaurs' faces, in watching the behind the scenes, they're demonstrating one, and they really quickly, casually call it a Waldo. Oh, wow. Waldo.

That must refer to Waldo C. Grafnick. Of course. The CGI character from Muppet Vision 3D. That's not a coincidence, but Waldo is named after the device. It's actually the other way. Oh, right. Because that is how they got the lip sync for Waldo.

And they computer analyzed that. But it's all based on some old short story about a disabled scientist named Waldo who got robotics to do what his body could no longer do really that is some story from the 30s or 40s interesting that is why the device is a waldo and why waldo c graphic okay it is a deep literary reference that's interesting if i ever read a book i might know that muppets i don't know the name of the book i can't get you started i don't care no no if i've learned all i need to learn waldo first showed up in like an 80s show like a different yeah he was not at the first appearance right was a different henson

thing yeah yeah so i because i don't want to even say what the name might have was it called the jim henson hour if i get this wrong we're getting big emails. Yeah, you're right. You're right. A lot of corrections and a number of them are from Griffin Newman. I'll edit this out. Cause I don't want Griffin to text us about the correct. I don't want to. We weird.

Yeah. I think he was in the Jim Henson hour. You're not going to hear the audience. You're not hearing this now because I've cut it out. You're not hearing it. Stop. Don't hear it. You can't.

If I forgot, if this is in, forgot i didn't even realize this is a muppet show we're making mistakes you're right even knowing it we've made like 20 mistakes cancel the episode why did we get ourselves into this oh no no no okay look all right here's a fact that we know here's something uh that is notorious about dinosaurs and it is the very bleak ending of the series where if you don't know fun sitcom about dinosaur family hijinks and then in the final episode the ice age is beginning and everybody is looking out a window pensive and scared about the forthcoming ice age saying i don't know i hope

it turns out okay and then it's just a sad news reporter signing off and then the show never came back again this is so alf parallel there's so many parallels i feel like between alf too because alf ends on a really scary sad thing why are we murdering our puppets yeah and they're both like three season shows i believe or maybe else a little longer but they're both kind of around the same length as far as and which means four maybe and they're yeah and they're like they were like hits but not seinfeld like they couldn't last past they're sort of like of the era yeah and they could yeah they didn't have like longevity to get them over that like syndicate five season syndication they are similar aren't they but yeah they both have like really sad endings dinosaur uh ended at four and i 94 no four seasons um and i think was plagued by moving nights moving airing nights a lot

oh it wasn't always on tgif i think it was sometimes but those were that was prime real estate they're they're kicking and trying to to launch crappier shows in those slots. But I don't remember following it for years and years. Like, I don't... Like, it came out of the gate hot and then just slowly cooled, much like the earth cools around them. That's how it feels. That's what I'm saying.

When you go Bart, Michelangelo, baby Sinclair, it seems weird now because Bart and Michelangelo have thrived in various forms. I get what you're saying. I don't disagree with that. Because I, again, I wanted to really like this and I would watch it, but I was too big of a baby. I was too, I guess. It was scary to look at and weird little like,

when they like had creatures around who they were in the house just for them to eat yeah uh and then then they spoke in british accents and they were kind of like pleading yeah uh that bothered me where i uh i'll say this neca showed off at comic-con last year that they are doing baby sininclair and Earl figures. Oh, wow. And they look fantastic. I'm so excited. And I'm probably going to buy them. Even though it doesn't take you back to some Phantom. Well, it might. But I also have a Hellraiser, NECA Hellraiser toy.

I have Pinhead in my office. But NECA is how you face your fears. That's right. You got Pinhead. I got the Xenomorph, too too which i was terrified of neca has so many things to show you a world beyond pleasure and pain you know just like pinhead himself oh yes yes yeah that's a catchphrase yeah i think that's a recurring catchphrase and i would like you guys to watch um um hellraiser 2 and see how far you can get

oh i tried hellraiser one once and bail i got i didn't think boredom would be the problem with hellraiser did you make it to the flesh tearing no oh wow hellraiser one yeah i can see there's some it's a little sleepy early on but also again i've said it many times i fall asleep so oh yeah i'm fresh from it taking me three nights to finish the brendan fraser albert brooks vehicle the scout oh wow the scout three nights of the scout for me i would like to see if you could the dense film that i could not but my brain could not possibly handle there's some scene so tired oh i'd love to see both of you guys do make it through hellraiser too though

because there are it's so gross i heard the I heard the Hulu show got pretty good reviews. I never watched that, yeah. But that felt too nice to me. Oh, okay. Well, that's beside the point. It felt like it wasn't gross, because the first two Hellraisers, gross, very gross. That's a big part of it, is seeing close-ups of skin tearing.

If I could keep us on the point of gross yes and i'm gonna we're gonna start heading to i think what we didn't say at the top we did not say that we did not there we're talking about any of this there was a dinosaurs show parade combo of both float checked neither box in a way yeah yeah there was a disney mgm studios uh the uh attraction of some kind it was on the map uh but i'm i'm starting what i'm heading to now is the disney company association with this series and there's a very important piece of media uh with one of our one of our favorites i will play you this now. Baby Sinclair, what are you doing in my chair? Number one.

And two. You know what? Baby Sinclair. Keep the chair. My gift to you. Thanks, Mike. By the way, what are you doing in my chair?

Um, Michael, uh, Baby Sinclair pisses and shits in Michael Eisner's chair. That'sisses and shits In Michael Eisner's chair That's an affront To all of us

That's the most That's a more important Chair in the Oval Office I'm mad about that actually Now I'm not gonna get That baby Sinclair That's why you hate the show Yeah I probably saw that

At the time And that made me uncomfortable The disrespect And the disrespect Continues Because I think I think in this Clip he By the way and the disrespect continues because I think in this clip he

by the way just like what's the joke there number one and number two and then he just makes a big effort face it is just we're watching a dinosaur baby take a dump Walt would be horrified by that yeah

baby Sinclair has a little diaper on but Jason look as a Take a dump. Walt would be horrified by that. Yeah, that's true. Well, he wears a diaper. Baby Sinclair has a little diaper on, doesn't he? Yeah, but Jason, look, as a father, as a daddy, you know, that pee and poop doesn't always stay in that diaper, my friend. Oh, sure. That can leak out. You can have what's called a blowout. I bet.

I think Baby Sinclair is causing blowouts on purpose. I think so, too. Yes. Baby Sinclair aware that if the if there's enough propulsion with that oh yeah that's coming out the diaper that's coming out the leg that's coming out the back he this character he comes out of the way he his egg cracks and then he's just talking and insulting earl in episode one so i i am sure he had very precise uh-huh poop control yeah yeah so the joke here is that Michael is going to

let him keep his chair because it's covered in feces and urine. Yeah, if he knows what's good for him, if he wants to try and litigate against the Screen Actors Guild,

they'll tear him apart. So the second half of this, and this is yet more disrespect to our favorite Mr. Eisner. Come here! Got a secret! of this and this is it'll get more disrespects to to our favorite mr eisner so he here's here's the catchphrase in motion uh which you know usually it's his father earl in this position but he smacks eisner in the head with his very thick bottle. That's a sizable bottle.

Yeah. But really the star of this entire sequence is what is coming, which is some of the best Eisner acting I've ever heard. I see stars. Actually,

one of the stars I see is Angela Lansbury. She's singing the title song from our new animated film, Beauty and the Beast. Shameless plug. Shameless plug. I mean, that's a funny bit.

I'm seeing stars. And one of the stars I'm seeing... No transition to the actual... Some of the stars I'm seeing, Insane Clown Posse, the hot new act on our Hollywood Records label. Wow. That's great. One of the stars, Powder. The star of a promising new film from promising producer Harvey Weinstein.

Angela Lansbury. Powder is not phenomenal. In her chilling role as Lawrence Harvey's mother in The Manchurian Candidate. Tonight on The Wonderful World of Disney. There is something. Michael seems, again, Michael wants to perform. been the manchurian candidate tonight on the wonderful world there is something michael seems again michael wants to perform but also there seems like he was one take and he was out and maybe that's wrong maybe he tried a lot because we obviously see you have seen outtakes so we know

he had to do other takes but well i think the rumor is that other in an early 30 rock where jack donaghy has to do like a litany it's a really basic performance and he's there all day. It's so, it's such a process to get it. And I think that is maybe based on Michael Eisner. Okay. I think possibly. But he wants, like that's what, he has the interview show after doing this. Like he wants to be on camera.

There was a desire for him to do that. And I wonder if he would just come on our podcast if we could get to the root of this if he if we can convey that we will not ask anything hard we it is going to be about his performance this is essentially inside the actor's studio with this guy we're just gonna go we're gonna play clips we're gonna ask what he remembers about that day yeah right is it uh an honor to work with baby sinclair right uh you got to you were he performed with how many people on this earth got to perform with jim henson doing kermit the frog not that many i mean the positions he was in or frank oz doing fozzy yeah i know true he got

like uh you know astounding experiences that's what i want to ask about right yes we want to give him the biggest softball interview of all time the softest ball we are not even gonna love it we will roll it softly to him or the ball doesn't have to go anywhere if he says something like you know and uh you know we're a little disappointed in how california venture started out and we're like no sir no it was great don't wait machines don't put yourself down like that it was great leave that to there's a guy named kevin perjurer leave the leave the shit talking of you to him we'll give you his info if you want to deal with him but i just felt like there's some problem you know some of the films were no the films what are you kidding me we love the film it was all perfect

have you revisited Jungle to Jungle lately? It holds up. Jungle to Jungle is better than the original. Than the French movie. The French movie with Gerard Depardieu, I think? Maybe. All your French movies are better than the Three Men and a Baby.

Blew the French one out. Oh, man. If Gryffindor's tribe was based on a french movie i'm sure it was better than that yeah he he shows up i was watching some interview with leonard nimoy and shatner and some star trek and they're of course talking about star trek coming back in the movies and they have talking about eisner because he was at paramount back then. Oh, yeah. He was a big part of that. He factored into, while I was on Ram Perez's podcast,

Mama Needs a Movie, and we talked about Mommy Dearest. They surely talk about dinosaurs with what would not the mama. Right, yeah. But Meisner had to greenlight that film. Mommy Dearest was given to us, essentially, by Michael Eisner.

Wow. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Just come here so we can thank thank you we just want to thank you come to the garage i just want to thank you giving us the best parks of our lives we'll sing that song to him not with the Stan lyrics. They're mean and dark. The good ones, yeah. Okay, to start getting us into the Disney MGM Studios, I would like to show you guys this photograph. This was going around recently on Twitter, I feel like.

Somebody just kind of, I mean, in illustrating the vibe of Disney MGM Studios in those early years. and this this really does tell you just the like collision of pop culture that we are looking here's a group photo in front of the studio gate and in this photo the ninja turtles with april o'neill roger rabbit beauty and the beast uh a bunch of star wars chewbaccaacca, C-3PO, and a couple Ewoks, Little Mermaid and Eric, Indiana Jones, and then the dinosaurs. I mean, that they fit in this group, that I would never want to question that,

seeing that at this age. Of course, of course they're in there. They're icons, and they always will be but but in general also this you talk about great stuff eisner gave us um i mean this does like i i aaron is sometimes like i don't understand this park it's kind of a hodgepodge i don't really and i'm like i think you had to be there yeah there was a there was a time first couple years this photo tells you everything you need that's what's missing from the park and it'll never be back you know we talk a lot about sort of that epcot feeling that's gone that will never come back and we have talked about this a

little bit but maybe i feel like maybe we haven't underlined it and this photo is the perfect representation of being a little kid and when this park was new and feeling like this chaotic photo of all these characters yeah was the magic of disney's mgm studios on a personal note also like my my early vacay i i had wonderful vacations with my my family uh always but they were often driven by like a golf and my dad wanting to golf and going to golf resorts. So I would always have fun as a kid. But I would find myself like, this is kind of a dry place to be. Sure.

I mean, I'll make do, but it's a little. So there'd be vacations where like, okay, they have a pool. I guess that's good. Okay. I'm sorry. Where's the next vacation taking us? A place where the Ninja Turtles and Beezus and the Dinosaurs and Chewbacca. Like, why do we ever go anywhere but here?

Yeah. I completely feel that looking at this. Yes. No. And that's what that's missing now from that place. Yeah. It's like, I guess, well, like. You want to see the Mysterious Benedict Society.

You want to see Will Trent. You want to see them all in one place i want to see the modern family i want to see them at disney's hollywood studio that's right yeah they're nowhere to be found the modern family are not there there should be a character they own every character right this is a mere fraction of what they own today yeah they aren't do it's not the big silly mismatchy pile and then of course a couple of characters who they don't own and i'm not sure why they're there right that's an important part of it too well that was uh uh you talk about that and i think the the characters they didn't own

like turtles and stuff being in there that made it more as a kid i was like it's all here everyone's here all of my favorites are here yes and new stuff that's the important part of it yes stuff that's just open or just coming out going to come out um it wasn't just classic characters it was stuff that felt new and relevant and they were all there all the friends were there and yeah again outside of like marvel with new stuff from the shows popping up it's like there's not really probably how you feel now if you're like you know if you're very into every marvel show every week and then yeah but it's still it's within the universe you're not seeing this fun mash-up of turning the corner. Nowhere to be found in the parks is the character on

Obi-Wan played by Flea. Where has he been? I haven't seen him anywhere. Vect No Crew. Where's Vect No Crew? I wish. I feel disgraced that I didn't know Vect's name.

I did have to look it up, but I'll never forget it now.x yeah no crew and his famous modern shirt and modern jacket and no signifiers that he's anything but regular fleas flea yeah he's vex no park presence we're like um yeah so so that that yeah seeing this and then watching the video of the dinosaurs and it's like, it would be interesting. Obviously, there was, I don't know, it feels more fun back then, the newer characters. But what a version of that now would be if you were a kid. I guess Bluey would be there.

Bluey, the Na'vi, all the Avengers. Yes, that's good. Right. And it would be like cheaper looking Avengers. It wouldn't be like recreations of the clothes. It would be like the Avengers. They look a little goofy. There's somebody blue.

Their shoes are a little bit like have a lift in them, but they're not that tall. And that's comforting. If you're a nervous child, it's comforting that they look a little shit. If it looks too good, the events of the movie might break out around you. Right. And then Grey's Anatomy characters are also there. Oh, yeah. Right?

That's on ABC, I think. Yep. That's still running. Modern Family's over, so I guess it wouldn't be the Modern Family. But yeah, that's... Black-ish. Yes, there you go. And I haven't watched television in forever, apparently, so I can't remember any other shows.

Is Abbott Elementary on ABC? I think it's on ABC but it's streaming on HBO Max. Well, I can't talk about, I can't get into that now. That's too confusing. Yeah. I want Guillermo from Jimmy Kimmel.

Dad. I want to walk around Guillermo. What about that? Yes. They should do that actually. Honestly, they should. They should. There should be some sort of

Kimmel presence in the Disney and Hollywood studios because that's their talk show guy. They have. They finally have. Honestly, they should. They should. There should be some sort of Kimmel presence in the Disney and Hollywood studios, because that's their talk show guy. They finally have. Oh, God. Yeah. How have they not made him host some bad attraction? That is interesting. Yeah.

There's so many things in the past where they would have an ABC Drew Carey or whatever. They had David Letterman in the pre-show of that sound show. Yeah. They've had all the characters. They've had Steven Weber host something. I mean, they've had so many different stars that have been on the show um the dinosaur parade that becomes a street show uh ran uh from september 1991 to august 1992 which i say because i was there in november 1991 and definitely was very thrilled to see like the hit dinosaur this was like a big trip where it's like my family and my grandparents and we all

stayed at the polynesian this was an exciting trip like yeah uh and probably i i was like watching a few you know uh versions of this show and i was like oh my god is this imprinted in my head like some earliest memories because i think as they're coming down like musical uh memories as they're coming down hollywood boulevard i think it's like an up-tempo instrumental version of i got rhythm which is a standard that like ella fitzgerald sang gene kelly did it in an american got paris okay and then in front of gray alman's chinese theater they do uh was it walk the dinosaur the hit song walk the dinosaur the hit song the hit song that is i guess that is a recent song for then because when's that song that's from from like, it was like 89, maybe 89 in America.

Um, and in America only, I know it was released in Europe, like higher in Europe. Oh yeah. I don't know. I'm just joking. But like that song just has stuck with me for like every now and then I'll

just come into my head and like, I had to remind myself getting ready for this episode i was like was that for the show no it was a single it was a hit single by was yeah yeah um well we're now we're here we're in don was territory oh man i'm excited is it a five timers that i said i saw him in a concert once i don't remember i feel like just his name being said is a five-timer i believe i saw him at a wilco show he was in the lobby and i go oh my god it's done now how many listeners know who this is i don't know well he wrote this song he wrote to walk the dinosaur which is the the basis of this this dinosaur show

and he produced my favorite bare naked ladies album which i'm sure i've said this before on the show yes is that why you care about don certainly the first time i've i was i heard about him but and then then once i learned he's like a kind of a character an ancillary character and rock it's not ancillary i don't want to diminish his contributions but well and that thing we talk about where the aging rockers look progressively more insane yeah with all of their distractions and dyed black hair that you know is not right and how are we styling the hair and how many layers are we wearing how many hats and how many scars all of depth's moves uh don was one of the craziest looking yeah and that's there is yeah

insane that's probably why i was like who's that oh i like that's why i recognized him i Don was one of the craziest looking people there is. Insane. That's probably why I was like, who's that? Oh, that's why I recognized him, I think, at the time. Because he is very unique or specific looking, I guess. Yeah. Did you know Little Steven from the E Street Band, they're on tour. I think a couple of concerts ago, dressed in full pirate outfit. Full big pirate hat.

Full big coat. It's kind of amazing that hadn't happened. I know, right? Yeah. He's like halfway there with those bandanas on his head. But yeah, he posted a photo of it. And I'm like, yeah, why not? This song, Walk the Dinosaur, I feel like it's kind of in that lane with Hot, Hot, Hot,

where it's as much of a recent hit song as Disney's willing to use. And it's almost impressive that they were doing any popular music from within the decade. But the song itself, I have always struggled with. Really? I don't. Yeah. Do you like Walk the Dinosaur? I think I like it. Yeah. No, I like it. But I don't. Yeah. Do you like Walk the Dinosaur? I think I like it.

Yeah. No, I like it. But I don't like love. I'm not going to throw myself. I'm not going to protect it like any of the songs on Barenaked Ladies Maroon. But yeah, I think I like it. I think it's just such a like, it's a song for babies. It makes sense they use it in the theme parks.

Yeah. It makes sense that i loved it at six years old you know this the only thing that imprint imprinted more was the glorious stefan and the miami sound machine song uh conga because that was played all over the parks i feel like and was like in i think was done for the caribbean beach opening it was in a parade or was in some disney show where like all the characters are on the beach okay huh so they'd grab sort of recent yeah there were three songs yeah they were they felt comfortable with yeah um i well look if you this show if you haven't seen a video of what we're describing um it pretty much hinges on your

enjoyment of walk the dinosaur because it is played for yeah about 10 straight minutes you better be into and the chorus specifically i hope you only kind of like the verses in the bridge yeah but or the pre-chorus or whatever because you will hear oh it is the show i'm gonna let me cliff notes version of the show uh without getting into the character dynamics and why they're there there is a big double-decker bus most of the dinosaurs are on top the grandma is on the bottom the bus takes a long time to come from very slow yeah to in front of the chinese theater once it arrives there is a performance of a lyrically modified walk the dinosaur then the same long path is taken for the bus to get out of there and go backstage and the chorus of walk the dinosaurs played the

entire time um we just gave a lot of praise to like the early five of this park i'm watching a video of this i'm like i don't know how i feel about this the vibe great the idea you know what i like is the picture i like the picture of all these people this show seems a little trying to me but only jason would know i didn't see it live i don't think i did you believe you did you did though i i think you did i think i did i would have been there i'm sure someone would have looked at a map and went oh the dinosaurs that were we watched that show yeah let's see what that is and like that was you made you one of your relatives sound very dumb. The dinosaurs, we watched that show. I'm just trying to imagine the synopsis, you know?

I'm just trying to give a... Me watch that. Me watch that. We go now. Oh, the kids will like this. The caveman talk. The kids will like this. It was a tribute to the show.

Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm sure I would have seen. I mean, like all of the stuff that we like. I mean, this park, the selling point of this park, it all worked on me. For, like, young kids, like, all those cartoons, all the ABC shows, they're all here. Yeah. Yeah. This show, it's not nearly as good as the ace of ventura hollywood studios

show oh i disagree with that i thought that was dog shit i hear that a lot i don't like the ace ventura show uh-huh but i think there's more of what you would want from ace ventura in that show he repels down a building there's some animal antics i'm not saying this is one of the greatest theme parks as ventura is but i think that you get more of what you would want from that show it's a little longer there were different versions of it this is like a dressed up parade float yeah it is it's like a brief parade but you know what you get those suits you get weird creepy versions of the dinosaur i know i just said i didn't feel great about this show but you know what you get those suits you get weird creepy versions of the dinosaur i know i just said i didn't feel great about this show but you just brought up what i think is one of

the worst things we've ever talked about the ace of show i thought that show was terrible well i i'm not going to defend the show is not being terrible but i do think it's better than this jason well i know i think this delivers on the prop like the suits look pretty close to the you know tv show much of it and they're kind of far away i guess you could get close and they would look cool baby sinclair says not the mama like it's everything you want yeah there's quips and it's a puppet he's being done puppet wise and then there's suits and they dance you get a big I think just the scale you get it's puppets it's suits it's a big bus you've just swung

me back that's how much I hated that Ace Ventura show I turned it right around I feel like that was a show because we were like deep pandemic and we finished that and I'm like there's a miserable time and we just talked about a miserable show we gotta cheer up it was a bad it about a miserable show. We got to cheer up.

It's a bad show. But I do think it fulfills the promise of an Ace Ventura show. I don't know. Here's the difference, though. I don't want an Ace Ventura show. I want a dinosaur show. And I'll settle for a bad one. I'll settle for one that I just a few minutes ago said I didn't think was good. It still gives me joy more than this kind of slow crawl down a rope and there's one bird in a window.

I really hated Ace Ventura. There's a toilet joke in that Ace Ventura show. I didn't like that. Okay. You shouldn't have either. All right. This show has also, I said it at the top, but Babies and Claire says, I'm ready for my close-up, Mr. DeMille. It's a Sunset Boulevard joke in a Hollywood theme park.

And the crowd, I bring that up because it gets a big response. You can hear people laughing in the home movie copies of this show how many people do you think i don't know no it seems like it plays really well it seems like a the baby would play well i don't know i don't know what you're saying well and so that's also a phrase that i was saying for years well really i'm ready for my close and also i watched i watched so annoying oh it is very I watched Sunset Boulevard at like 11 or 12. I stayed inside on a nice summer day

because I was like, Turner Classic Movies is showing Sunset Boulevard next. And the line is actually the other way around. Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up. It's one of those? Remembered as I'm ready for my close-up. It's like a Luke, I am your father. Yeah.

Beam me up, Scotty. That's not what he said. It isn't? No. Did he never say that? I don't believe he ever said beam me up, Scotty. That's, really? Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. People said that to me my whole life. Oh, really? Of course, yes. Oh, yeah. How can we bother this guy named Scott by saying that? And it did bother you.

Yeah. I'm like, what am I supposed to say that? I have no response to this. Play it again, Sam. Probably the most famous one. He doesn't say play it again, Sam? Ingrid Bergman says play it, play as time goes by. Yeah, beam me up, Scotty.

Catchphrase and misquotation that made its way into popular culture. Wow. You should have just thrown that in people's face. Actually, that would have really gone over well. Excuse me. I would like to correct you on the phrase you're using. You're thinking. That was never said.

So it's irrelevant. Think of something else to say to me. This seems like like i don't know how we've gone this long without talking about this this is with all the movie studio theme parks out there i think i'm ready for my close-up mr demille is a tent pole how many

yeah oh yeah and i couldn't tell you where but like don't you hear i like i feel like i've probably heard that a hundred times yeah i don't even know in what i didn't like any of them yeah but that's such a and it's still said this long after such a full part this is long after anybody really knowing what mr demille did yeah yes i think that's probably like i'm bugs bunny is i feel like he has said it many times i could

be wrong oh sure um yeah i would i would believe almost any character said that at one point did michelangelo say that in the original animated tv show ninja turtle show probably i don't know of a similar piece uh uh you mentioned movie studio based theme parks this is a thing i love in movie studio theme parks the fake camera truck there is a fake oh right there's a fake filming camera truck yeah as if they're filming driving ahead of the parade float this is still you can still see the fake camera rig at the indiana jones stunt show oh that's the same one in the early days yeah it's still an ancient like film real camera we don't yeah ignore that like you can film cars see moving scenes with little cameras yeah with like phones and there's also the more you think about that stunt show you're like wait

i has anyone mentioned the phrase steven spielberg or george lucas ste? Steven Spielberg might be set at some point. Are you concerned that they aren't? You think they're not crediting the names? I feel like it doesn't come up. You mean like because you're shooting the movie? They're shooting the movie. So you think somebody should be playing Spielberg in the Indiana Jones stunt show? Yeah, in theory, because they're shooting in rapid sequence all the set pieces of the movie.

Who's the wolf in the Fablemans? Who's... Do you have that kid? in theory because they're shooting in rapid sequence all the set pieces of the movie from the fablemans who's good you have that that kid is the kid but when he gets older there's a sigh fableman but i don't remember if that's the kid oh i can't remember again i only all i got i haven't watched fablemans yet vect no crew vect no crew is the most important name to know after this episode but uh that's an interesting point yeah i mean spielberg though probably with the universal association he can't be represented in a disney park sammy fableman sammy fableman you're thinking of cy abelman from uh serious man oh you're right from the coen bros movie serious man fableman cy abelman is that great character from he goes we're gonna be fine we're gonna be fine we're gonna be fine you're gonna be

we're gonna be fine whatever cy abelman is not cy fableman there is no such thing as cy fableman cy fableman it's really good i wonder if somebody could see why uh cy abelman i let me okay i i described the parade route but now let me say the premise of the show the premise of the show is every day at disney mgm studios there is a event called surprise family of the day that's all that always happens it's probably mostly regular families yeah could be yours on a different day but today it's the sinclair family who are dinosaurs and who are as acknowledged in the show from the hit series dinosaurs so they are alive today happen to be vacationing and disney mgm studios have become the stars of a show that would not normally star them right yet there is an original song that

they sing about uh being dinosaurs and about the show having picked dinosaurs um that that is ready to go the music is uh loaded up and on all the park loudspeakers this is also being filmed it's a movie studio park and this is important camera truck as jason mentioned i think there's a big crane so it's a parade that's being filmed with accidental contest winners who happen to be the stars of dinosaurs no i don't know how they're alive today um and at the end they say and that's a wrap how many premises did i just say four it seems like four i've got a lot going on here a lot going on and like two yeah well they could have just been family of the day and there's the dinosaurs and who cares or don't do why is it family of the day what if it's here's the dinosaurs everyone also here's the dinosaurs is fine and they sing a song and then

baby sinclair says something and he leaves the dinosaurs are here today could have been the name of it i think that's right yeah i would have accepted that yes instead we got a lot of competing premises and i don't know why they're around they i saw them die i watched hey they were thriving when this seabark show was going on yeah yeah that's true they're bouncing around the mean season schedule uh these are we need to make a note if we ever talk to one of these older imagineers again tony back to joe row or joe row or something we have to ask about stuff like this yeah did this ever come across your desk who would have decided on the premise for the dinosaur float attraction that would like pop in and out did you did you even were you even aware of it this is a different

department like i have so many questions about this type of entertainment in the parks a little nitty-gritty because you never hear anything about ace ventura show or this show i think bob weiss was a big part of this getting this park open and running great this is a great question for him yes so all right so we'll get this major imagineering and not ask any of the big stuff talk to him about the dinosaurs show do we even know the name of it i guess we'll have to by the time this comes out is it called dinosaurs live uh what is the youtube called i i believe it was called dinosaurs a lot there's a few ones yeah there's it's not something that is it is dinosaurs live exclamation point don't forget the exclamation point yeah because it's

exciting um yeah also you can't google it because you search dinosaurs live and it's all these current things with jurassic world oh man there's no footprint for this it's all like uh insane money laundering schemes to like fill anchor stores and dying malls oh yeah oh i loved dinosaurs and whatever mall that was in the south oh yeah a lot of dinosaur stuff popping up. Dinosaurs live. Listener, I'm sorry I didn't know the name of it, and you're this deep into an episode.

You know how these things go. You're not going to look at the video anyway. If you're listening, I mean, maybe you will. Maybe you've pulled it up at this point, but it's not much. One of them posted by the guy we know. Yes, that's right. By Ian. Yeah.

What's his last name? Riccoboni. Riccoboni. That's right. He posted his old home yeah yeah and what i'm looking at a video and like wait a minute yes he posted it i have not asked him about it thanks for posting it it was very helpful very good quality home movies like yes yeah good rip better transfer in these sorry ass transfer houses everybody's slipping on the tapes yeah and everyone but jason is clanging them around tossing them out the window spilling hot soup on beloved episodes of next generation

look the the staff of a lot of these post houses uh you know the lower rungs at some of these places it's a mix of uh recent college graduates thank you for uh thankful for any job during a recession time and a lot of burnouts oh boy a lot of burnouts jason's calling you out yeah calling the burnouts out um i was trying to think like like what what do i want from dinosaurs from a cheapish thing that you could pop up in a park like this like what do i want from it and i think i want really what i want is some sort of a room that you can walk in and they're just in there. Yes, that's better.

And you can see them for a little bit. I'd rather do a meet and greet for sure. Yeah, even if I don't get to take a picture with them, just getting to be in a weird Stone Age kind of room and just see them, I think it could be 45 seconds and that's going to give me what I want, closer to what I want. Even if somebody's really mean when the 45 seconds is up? Yeah, if somebody really ushers me out and I get in trouble if I stay too long. Yeah, I think that would be... You're in trouble.

Tell your mom. Okay. I'll know if you don't tell her. I do have, because I think I was there in like 91 and 92, I have pictures with a walk-around beast okay giant walk-around beast uh pictures with the ninja turtles it was thrilling to meet these stars of stage and screen but i feel like there was a i don't hmm i i maybe this is a thing in general where it's like bringing stuff that's really current it's very they're not going to

build any tickets when something's new it's a tv show especially it's got to really now we got like guardians is kind of almost a fluke i feel like because that would that's fairly new as far as no and it came together fast yeah um but it's like there should be spaces for current stuff in the parks to set up like a little maze or a little meet and greet that looks thematically like it well that's what disney mickey's starland was yes that was a space for like little kind of themed facades where you could meet the disney afternoon character and they could slide those in and out so that did fulfill and at the time where we needed it the most of course we really wanted to meet darkwing duck

yes uh so because you can get otter stuff if it's not you don't have to build something elaborate but i want to yeah i want to go in like earl's boss's office and i could they could do that that wouldn't be too expensive. Yeah. You don't have to have his boss in there. When everyone's chasing the same finance positions, chartered business valuators stand out. CBVs are an elite group of trusted professionals doing everything from deal advisory to litigation support to succession planning. CBVs are a preferred hire in investment banking,

private equity, consulting, and many other areas, with the potential to earn seven figures at the pinnacle of their careers. If you're starting your career in finance, check out cbvinstitute.com slash becomeacbv. Your future self will thank you for it. Did they just have the bus already? Is that why they're on a bus? Yeah, for sure. Definitely. That was repurposed for something else. the bus already is that why they're on a bus for sure definitely that was why that's why the family

of the day theme because in a if the if it's like the dinosaurs parade then you expect it to look like rocks yes but this is the way they can get away with they're just on a like a iron yeah it is an old double decker from magic kingdom definitely from a parade of magic kingdom right yeah i think so that was my first thought when i saw it yeah yeah but they would do more parades at mgm studios in the early days so i gotta go now i want to look up pictures and see like okay the dinosaurs are off aladdin and friends are on yeah hercules and friends are on there was definitely a hercules like victory parade i feel like yeah it was a weird way to phrase it but victory parade it's

something like that of celebration or that was good though that was like very that was pretty heavily themed i think a lot of new stuff at that um as opposed to just throwing the dinosaur but is this not i kind of hadn't put it together it's recent characters from tv not film right and you don't get too close to them but they're up on a second story and they wave at you this is avengers campus this show invented avengers oh you're right there's a little balcony and the new characters wave at you yeah yeah

and they do a little show up there uh-huh now do I wish that uh Hawkeye and uh

uh I can't name any more of Hawkeye and Thor are dancing to walk the dinosaur of course

oh yeah oh that big Hulk if big helmet Hulk had done what like the dinosaur that the the thing they announced which is the joke from hawkeye that the musical thing in the old frozen in the old aladdin theater rogers uh yeah rogers a musical which is a kind of a parody of we're talking about mark shaman again here yeah a parody of musicals it's it's close to what i want with characters

dancing to uh the dinosaur do the whatever walk the dinosaur you think so you think it'll be like as silly as that well the show is it's a big over-the-top musical of like how the battle and the first avengers went okay and it's very like like silly and then broadway style like and the joke is hawkeye hates it yeah he's like the joke is hawkeye is like this is annoying to me how over the top this is and like hulk and like he looks just like broadway man dressed as hulk and stuff i think hawkeye is honestly my favorite of all the disney plus marvel shows but uh that's close to the having some fun i will i give them that credit because we really just want what i really want is the hyperspace hoopla with the marvel characters

when the lights go down i want them like uh twerking to new music but this is pretty close to having some fun i will give them that yeah uh-huh and it's got to be like it's not they have to make new stuff for it unless it's only going to be like a five minute show no i think it's long but right i think it's gonna be longer so i'm saying they have to write new stuff so we'll see what what it is they maybe they'll go sincere which i hope they don't yeah they need to i mean well this is a good this is a step in the right direction and as somebody who was not uh blown away by a film called the eternals okay somebody who let's say didn't understand for one millisecond what i was watching or why why anyone would find any of this interesting i might change my tune a little bit if they

if they got into some musical mischief kingo is singing you know it's possible king if king goes sing goes yes that's the show that's the show that's the show he's not even on king goes sing goes maybe that'll be the other characters from the other movies then they can make up new song i am the kingo of wishful thinking see that's yeah that's what i want i want like parody marvel parody songs to give into thanos that's not how it's gonna yeah so yeah if okay imagine hyperspace hoopla yeah we talked about this if listeners if you go go back this is on a Patreon, where Star Wars characters would twerk to newer songs.

You know, like Beat It or something. Beat It, you know, something newer. I say newer, I mean the last 40 years. Oh, Mickey dances. Don't they all come out and dance to Gangnam Style? Oh, yeah. Of course, of course, of course, Jason. We're joking.

Yeah. It's a perfect piece of work yes but imagine hyperspace hoopla and then like they wheel baby sinclair out at the end i mean that's fantastic sorry wait i'm lost what are we is this hyperspace hoopla or is this marvel hyperspace hoopla what show are you describing and what year are you saying oh you guys are giving me two options for what i'm too many options for what i meant What show are you describing? And what year are you saying? Oh, you guys are giving me two options for what I'm too many options for what I meant.

Uh, Oh, you're like grabbing the side of your face. Cause you're smiling. So big. Okay. So here I'm just going to pick an arbitrary year to make it seem like I knew what I

was pitching you say it's the year 2023 and it's this year hollywood studios and they're doing hyperspace hoopla again uh and it's star wars and it is well star wars up until yeah up to this point and and the big thing at the hyperspace hoopla was at the end mickey came out uh and everyone lost their revolutionary utterly unpredictable even more the perfect moment of surprise in fiction audience was jack like so excited about it even more than the baby sinclair doing the sunset boulevard line um and baby sinclair comes out and a Dua Lipa song plays. And then Baby Sinclair twerks. Like, that would be fantastic.

Well, again, as somebody who bristled at the notion that Mickey coming out at the end of a show at Disney World was that surprising, now Baby Sinclair doing it? So you agree. Now I'm surprised. That comes out of nowhere okay i don't even know if that gets a huge response just due to the confusion the build-up at the end and his baby is it a suit i guess it's a suited character well okay i think he's in the high

chair but he like rotates and he's kind of like bouncing it i think yeah or like he kind of it looks like the chair is kind of like hopping forward they had to develop a stuntronic for this they were like once we got the flying spider-man out of the way now we need a realistic baby sinclair that can make his entire high chair twerk can we um get uh showing zoomers uh dinosaur dinosaur sitcom going on TikTok? Oh, okay. You're saying that should be a new trend. Did that take it by storm? I have seen this trend on things where, yeah,

it's just a little video and you show young people stuff maybe from the past. There's a lot of videos of young people listening to classic music that we've watched over the years. then like it'll be like you've seen these yeah like the filk on the air tonight or something or bohemian rhapsody whoa whoa and they have other performing a bit they're performing a bit but it's it's kind of interesting so you're saying you want this trend with abcs with ABC's somewhat hit sitcom dinosaurs. Not the mama, I'm the baby, gotta love me.

So people would just say that back then? Yeah. So this is what people looked like in the 90s. Jason, is there any video of you saying the phrases? Do you think there's any VHS? Oh, I don't know. I feel like we were late to get the video camera. And you'd think it was like a priceless Fabergé egg the way my brother and I were not allowed to touch it.

Oh, okay. I did not get a Fableman's time until much later. How old are you in the family? I had a feeling you'd be bad at working with media stars. And they knew you'd drop it. All right. Okay, so. I was pretty storage. Alright, alright. Okay, so. I was pretty good.

I got a degree in media production and it's storage and preservation. Look. Okay, so, alright. I'm going to say action and then you say, I'm ready for my close-up, Mr. DeMille. Okay, and three, two, oh god. The camera exploded in my hands um well i think i think we did it uh i mean uh hey it's it's fun to watch a video of this show is this the greatest piece that the theme

park theme park entertainment ever put on no possibly not possibly not but it is fun that this all was there they tried something i really i'm so happy because i didn't remember i've seen photos with the dinosaurs but i didn't realize there was something other than just the characters walking around which it feels like there's stuff we can uncover and not that we i dug deep deep for this or anything but was his home improvement there's a home improvement like walkthrough thing in mgm studios or something like it seems like there would be if there wasn't it seems like there would be but there's stuff like that where you're like oh that was there uh-huh so it's like stuff it's fun to it's fun to see what they like little things they

tried yeah yeah and also very important that in the law they have to cover the ride up with a lot of dialogue and it's important that grandma ethel wants to go to the energy pavilion at epcot because there's a cute tyrannosaurus that hangs out there that is good that's a good line yeah she wants to go date the energy dinosaurs but they don't do the song that Baby Sinclair sings at some point. The I'm the Baby, I Love You song? I'm the baby, gotta love me. Great big eyes and really cuddly. Yeah.

Oh, wait, I didn't save that. Another early musical memory. I remember enjoying that. I loved that a show, it was like Full House, that a show it was like full house that full house would show like an olsen twins music video or the jesse and the rippers forever i like abc because they don't bore me with full long shows always sometimes there's a fun music video at the end well here maybe i'll i might play a little snippet of that at the end because i the rap is uh in the middle is pretty good um which will replace my previous idea of ending the

episode musically which is just playing the chorus of walk the dinosaur for it for 11 minutes at the end it's just we left that entire outro on. But okay. So for now, you survived Podcast The Ride. Thanks for subscribing to The Second Gate. If you want to dig even deeper, join us on our VIP Patreon tier, Club 3, where you get one more bonus episode every month and our regular episodes ad-free.

And you vote on the topics. Do you want us to talk about whatever the home improvement experience was? Or you remember that they had the bookstore from ellen i don't know that i went in the bookstore all the time it was it was well stocked with goosebumps i don't think i ever put it together that it was the one from ellen i think that was the idea of that the iconic bookstore that ellen worked where apparently or went to i could not tell you one detail about we got to do an episode on that um but because they didn't do any cool music videos like this which uh leave you with baby sinclair's rap and you might be able to guess

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