Podcast: The Ride - Unlocked: Mad T Party

Episode Date: April 15, 2022

It's time to get mad! We go down the rabbit hole and discuss the psychedelic dance party that opened with DCA 2.0. Featuring tiny hats, jug cocktails, and the hit songs of the early 2010s! Enjoy this... sample of The Second Gate. Find even more episodes at Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FOREVER! DOG! 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 There's a lot, you know, there's a lot to do here on Podcast to Ride the Second Gate. We're down the rabbit hole already. Oh, what do I see? The rockin' rabbit hole, as I like to call it. My name is Mike Carlson.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Joining me as always, my Cheshire cat, Jason Sheridan. That's right. Today's password is rock and roll. And DJ White Rabbit himself, Scott Gairdner scott garner is here yeah look i want to get right to it uh mike you're out of your fucking mind this thing no way is not no way it's not a good thing this is i feel i have been giving you the benefit of the doubt on this for a long time you've brought this up so many times over the years and i imagined like okay maybe there is a five percent chance that i would look at a video of this and sort of get it
Starting point is 00:01:13 and having looked at some video now maybe not enough maybe that's the issue but the video that i did look at makes me get it to no percentage what video did you watch first of all i watched the mad tea party band okay on the last night that they performed when they are set list at that point you know closing night of a big show you know that's a melancholy yeah that's not the most exuberant performance of the whole run well it should be any sampling that i take should give me some look i looked at other one the costumes were always the same the costumes were the same yes jack fm songs were always the same but whether you're watching the man tea party or the diamond man tea party you might be getting a different vibe.
Starting point is 00:02:06 You know what? Look, I want to calm down here, okay? I wanted to settle down. I have made special Mad Tea Party drinks for everyone. Oh, my. All right. There's a reveal. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:18 So, I just want everyone to, yeah, drink me. This is, of course, my glass. It's an official Mad Tea Party glass that I have had since going to the show many years ago. That's right. I saw these glasses and I thought they were candles. You want to hand one of these to Scott? What is it? It is a thing.
Starting point is 00:02:34 It's elderberry vitamin C. It is strawberry sparkling water and vodka. So it's not too sweet. It might be bad. It's not bad. it just kind of tastes like sparkling i was getting worried there would not be an alcoholic component that was the biggest fear yeah all right okay i think it's enough right for enough sweet it's not a perfect drink i like it but it's it's a good that's pretty that's pretty refreshing pretty good great
Starting point is 00:03:04 the elderberry is a the vitamin c gives you the flavor but it's not the too sweet that you might get from uh like a sugar syrup this is a terrific dinner uh terrific dinner chaser to my meal of a burger king chicken king sandwich chicken frozen coca-cola i've had the chicken king multiple times wow really because i think it's that good how uh the other chicken sandwiches you've had that we've had together i mean i what do you think a good version of the popeyes one is good um the chicken king i would think is nipping at its heels wow is it a similar vibe what are the components similar vibe it even comes in the same sort of like envelope sort of thing but it's kind of like a mayo and pickles uh there's a hot one that's like dipped in a hot wash hot liquid
Starting point is 00:03:52 when we get hot chicken it's kind of dipped into like a hot like a batter yeah no it's just it's a fried dough or a batter no there's like a wash i think wash is the term it's like a batter yeah no it's just it's a fried dough or a batter no there's like a wash i think wash is the term it's like a chili it would be scraped on not scraped on but like but brushed on like a bro would a brush yeah i guess you could brush it on a little bit usually i just see them like take this kind of chicken and dip it in pre-dip wash i guess jason's right yeah pre-dip wash okay so i i didn't think that was chicken wash popeyes just the spicy one jason's full of chicken i'm just full of chicken with vitamin c and elderberry and did you hear he had a frozen coke as well frozen yeah that was kind of muttered towards the end well in the app uh it was free and that's that's why yeah they get they give
Starting point is 00:04:45 away the bank in the app in the yeah and the apps right now they're really going to town like you can get a frosty chino for free at wendy's with purchase of any item there's a frosty with uh the caffeine component it's exactly right yeah it's great it's like drinking coffee ice cream wow i don't recommend it every day, but fair, fair. So anyway, we're calming down now. No, we're getting on the same page here. You did an excellent job of hiding the drinks. That was great with very little.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I think he saw them. I saw them. I didn't really know what it was. I thought it was just you were having a beverage or, yeah, like I said, they could be candles. He was going to play the glasses. He was going to like, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo. beverage or yeah like i said they could be candles he was gonna play him play the glasses he was gonna like the man tea party yes the the man tea party uh glass it's just so ubiquitous i've seen it in your various homes i think you were probably with me when it was purchased probably it's ubiquitous to you it's ubiquitous if you've been in where mike lives where if you've been where mike lives and i
Starting point is 00:05:45 have a very strong memory of me and mike at the bar um at the mad tea party at drink me at drink me at the bar and we ordered uh mad i didn't think we'd get to this as quickly i do have it here um mad hatino mad hatio uh you're struggling to find it you don't know how to say it matty it was a mojito and i remember watching them a mad hito is that what it was called a mad hito that would make a lot more sense than whatever you were trying to say titos uh they're they didn't have the j in it anyway i watched them pick up the milk jug like the gallon oh you've told this story three times on the show probably like just pour this goo you you you realize yeah you were like they're not making this fresh what have a jug of like of sugar drinks these are not mixologists picked by the mad himself no i realized i didn't queue this up
Starting point is 00:06:45 but i have a photo from the mad tea party and this is again i want to okay real quick the mad tea party was a music celebration celebration festival of fun celebrating lewis carroll's great story alice in wonderland in addition to some of the greatest hits, modern pop hits of the day and of yesteryear. And it was there for a couple of years. And they had it was a lot of staging, a lot of decorations. It really filled up the space from the boring now now kind of defunct kind of nothing area. The Monsters, Inc. and Muppet Vision. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:23 The bad Hollywood courtyard. Right. And, you know, when it was Mad Tea Party time, the state, everything, it was full in there. It was full of life, full of fun, full of friends and love. Full of friends. Yeah. And, yeah, so that's what we're talking about today. It's really what I'm getting at.
Starting point is 00:07:42 This is like, I don't get it because I wasn't there man this is like a festival i'm not feeling the plur or whatever here's a photo of me here it is and look how happy 2012 iphone 4 photos yeah they're a little low res i look a little i'm trust me i'm happy there i'm a little skinnier too wearing a shirt of mickey showing his seat rubbing it like yeah thrusting his seat at you i kind of look like my eyes are like i look like a cartoon character in this picture tripping out on the glow heat on the sights and sounds of the mad tea party i would regularly and lindsey's walking around i would regularly during this period say are we going to get mad tonight yes he would he would do this a lot especially if it was later in the day and DCA was very crowded.
Starting point is 00:08:26 He's like, well, always mad tea party. Can always get mad tonight. I knew it was one of the, I knew this was, I took one look at a video and I'm like, oh, this is one of those Mike things that he's always like cheeky smile. Like maybe we could do it. And depending on the group, that's right. Group is perhaps, I mean, certainly no one is as on board as you. Jason seems like a good percentage yeah
Starting point is 00:08:46 well i i mean i'd kill i we're still getting back to collective experiences that i would kill to be at the man tea party right now i feel like i'm appreciating stuff a lot more uh or strangle someone to death sure yeah end of life to hear a band play a pon jovi cover that's right yeah door mouse hat but one thing i've forgotten about this was that this was like opening with dca 2.0 the excitement was in the air the excitement was in the air uh radiator Springs racers zooming along. All of the Cars Land stuff opening. Trollies are there. Trollies. News boys singing songs about the glory of the 1910s.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Free newspapers. Suitcase in a Dream was new. A fresh new song being showcased. People are saying, look, there's a new statue of Waltz and Mickey. He's kneeling on him and he's wearing a cap. And then they'd headbutt each other. They were so aggressively happy about the statue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I mean, so you were there, Scott. You just didn't do this. This is open 2012 to 2016? Well, there was a break in between. There was a break and then it came back bigger than ever seemingly for the anniversary show. I was at, specifically, California Adventure in that time so much, and I didn't set foot in this. Did you know it was there?
Starting point is 00:10:15 I think I probably caught the name and the vibe and was like, no thanks. That's okay. Leave that for the 15-year-olds. This 15-year-old? are you kidding me this is full grown adults this was look this was two year olds grown adults and 80 year old cartoon hats we had and i couldn't find the video there's a video we had there were like dance circles of kids breaking out in the middle of this thing yeah this was the closest to my videopolis that existed of like a bunch of people having fun at like a concert environment
Starting point is 00:10:45 now it wasn't as hip and cool as videopolis i know that i'm not crazy okay but this was fun videopolis is like a pretty cbgb uh you know it was a scene punk rock gelman street punk rock uh green that's green day where Green Day was from. Gelman Street. Gelman Street. Do they present this as like, because down on Gelman, we're part of that Gelman scene.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I'm pretty sure. No, don't Google more about Gelman. Put your phone down. I just wanted to make sure it was right. No, back to MADT. Forget I asked it. That lonely road he was walking had a name. Okay. There's a song.
Starting point is 00:11:26 They have an early song called Christy Road before that road. So there was a difference. Why do you say that excited? What was I going to do about Christy Road? Christy Road's a good song. Oh, Christy Road. That changes everything. Bruce S. Highway 9.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Green Day has Christy and Gelman roads. You know? Gelman Street. Gelman Street. Sorry. I think that was the name of the venue gelman yeah there's a song about you yes there's a green day is the name of the band kelly what is it kelly michael no no michael's gone kelly and ryan sorry i couldn't think of what the current
Starting point is 00:12:00 version of regis and kathy lee wasn't it's kelly and ryan ryan seacrest megan mccain's gonna come megan it's kelly ryan and megan now uh so so yeah this was a couple years this existed no joke i wanted to go to it all the time yes and i know it's funny but i do really like it i know it's absurd and ridiculous but i do legitimately like it and really wish it was there. I really miss it. It does. I mean, that area is dead right now. There's nothing going on.
Starting point is 00:12:32 There's nothing going on right now. I think this kind of lived and died on the numerous annual pass holders. Annual pass is much less expensive at the time, too. I was getting a haircut once um around shortly like within the first six months of this opening and uh the hairdresser had like a tiny little top hat on and i was like oh that's an interesting ad and it was kind of pinned in her head but i was like i think it's got a string under her and she was like thanks do you know what the mad tea do you know about the mad tea party at disneyland i was like i actually yes i i know exactly what i
Starting point is 00:13:10 do know the mad tea party and she's like yeah i'm there like every weekend and so the locals love it it's fans yeah yeah it did i'm surprised they got rid of it i don't know because electronica we've talked about this before the electronica festival whatever they called it was there before yeah and glow fest before that glow fest was before that these were all like music i don't know show performances every night yeah nighttime with a vibe and with like a heavy bar component like yes themed bar uh and electro and electronica had the arcade and then the arcade basically stayed for for this and was transformed they still had carnival game sort of arcade yeah black light in there not the neon of tron so some of the components were saved i think some of the structures they reused as well
Starting point is 00:14:00 for the for the uh stage electronica i feel like always more empty more empty when i walk through it this was so much more popular than electronica this was insanely popular i mean a lot the early like people people wrote about it it kind of seemed like they were visually going for like yeah the the timber and alice in wonderland i think had been successful yes but then it seemed like they were also going for like it's like the electric daisy carnival but without the um mdma and death yes it is have it has a vibe of like a douchey southern california music festival it has it has elements of that where like what you're talking about where it's like you could see some of those structures being sit like sitting on the middle of it's i don't know if it's not burning burning man isn't
Starting point is 00:14:48 that's not the vibe but like it's a little more coachella or yeah but you just said the music varieties like on one website where they said it's trance new wave and dance pop and i don't think that it's i think in in theory on paper that was the case but dance pop is maybe that's a reach even this is my this is some of my because this came up a couple weeks ago with jordan morris and we were talking about bands and his disneyland ever been in step with current music and then mike you you like right at the the top, veer it over here. We're not anywhere close to talking about this. So you can breathlessly say how this was, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:31 it was really kind of a way for Disneyland to reflect the EDM, the electronic music culture that was going on, which I feel like was very progressive for them. And it was, you know, amazing, you know, to be so in sync with the current pop culture. And then I watched one video of it and like, you gotta smile, daddy, say it to me. Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Okay, DJ White Rabbit was... The DJs are different. My point was Electronica, and then when the DJs would play, it's the closest thing to hip. I wasn't saying the cellist of the rock band. But that too, I'm watching the White Rabbit, and it's like...
Starting point is 00:16:04 Like, yeah, this is a grandmother's idea for disney i'm saying disney and they got uptown funk in the rotation pretty quickly the diamond set list uptown funk is in the diamond set list open the show on the diamond set list everyone stop what's the diamond set why are you shouting diamond set list at me as if i know how that's different than anything else because when the show came back it was during the diamond celebration so for the anniversary so when i go to the website that i got all this information on which of course is mouseertainment.com uh it refers to that specific set list as uh the diamond set list so the diamond set list is more
Starting point is 00:16:45 important somehow why why is diamond it's just saying that you were touting that as like a reason it was good that was the marketing jason brought up uptown funk because there was it was a pretty new song at this point it wasn't like it was 10 years old it is impressive that's something remotely within the the calendar years yes that they're using in a yeah yeah now was the third song what i like about you sure was very medley of jesse's girl and and the summer of 69 yes yeah uh was there um the time warp and also in the air tonight? Yeah. This is what we are describing. A wedding band set list.
Starting point is 00:17:30 This is a wedding band that is dressed like that where one has a mad hatter hat. And there's an Alice. And the costumes are great. But what? It's a wedding. And they did We Are Family family and they did it with a diamond next to that means it's an extra important song. There are little treats in there that you wouldn't expect.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Like they did do rhythm nation by Janet Jackson at one point. That's pretty good. So that's pretty cool. That's good. Uh, they did. There's a Prince song in there. Obviously it's let's go crazy. It's not like a wonderful ass.
Starting point is 00:18:01 It's not, which would be a B side. It's not jack you off. It's not jack you off it's not jack you off it's not pussy control it's not those prince songs they did somebody told me which was not the killer song i thought they would do so i told me it's not my favorite killer song they didn't shut up and dance yes too um they have yeah there these still were not in exactly in counter culture no killers I completely agree
Starting point is 00:18:29 with that they have let's see I'm looking they did Wrecking Ball by Miley Cyrus which is fairly new
Starting point is 00:18:35 at the time that was pretty new couple years old which is a song I like I like that I like that song Scott how do you feel about Wrecking Ball
Starting point is 00:18:42 I don't I didn't really like Wrecking Ball that's too bad i'm coming off look i know look it's it's all edgelordy with me i understand there's people i know i'm losing like the miley cyrus mark ronson songs you know oh yeah the one i forget the name of it breaks like a heart nothing breaks like a heart yeah yeah it was my issue with wrecking ball i was like why she's like had never sung like that before like all of a sudden one day say like like why do you why have you suddenly you're against artists evolving is that
Starting point is 00:19:12 what you're saying okay i'm against interesting like sudden hard turns into trendy ways of singing like see yeah yeah exactly like i see what you're saying suddenly you're just doing um the current yeah i'm looking at the diamond cellist yeah they did do come on eileen in the cellist and the diamond cellist but these are crowd-pleasing classics 80 we're at you know california and i'll say this and this is you should know this i mean maybe i've said this in the show before about me if you have a free ticket excuse me i sound like i was about to cry it was perfect i swear you just tell me these shows mean so much to me uh if if you if you invite me to a concert and it's free i will go to any concert i don't i don't if it's outside that's even better i'll go see nickelback tomorrow i'll go see pick the worst band and and see see
Starting point is 00:20:04 if you can get me to say, I really don't want to see that. That's how you ended up following the deplorable choir on tour. What is that? That was those three women who wore the Trump hats and sang songs about Donald Trump. I do not know the deplorable choir. Well, you're lucky. Would I go to see the deplorable choir in concert?
Starting point is 00:20:21 Is that what you're asking? Yeah. Okay. No, I would not go see them yeah that would be no i would say no i'm curious this i would read a review of you know what you're right it's all originals and like francis scott key you know well there was a band uh around the time of bush called the right brothers and they had a song called bush was right and it sounded it sounded a lot like billy
Starting point is 00:20:45 joel's we didn't start the fire only a list of like uh things that bush had gotten right which of course are all things he got wrong which are all things that are opposite um but of course all those weird phrases is that was how you're supposed to say it yeah that won't get fooled again uh yeah one shame he did have it right yeah he said the right things at the right time um but yeah i would see like i guess i would if it was free if i wasn't giving the right brothers whatever they were called money this is up there and obscure references i gotta see if that's i like this and like the bad t-bar there's a more recent Obscura. This isn't from the 1930s. The Wright Brothers are from this very century.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah, they were the Wright Brothers, R-I-G-H-T, because they were right wing. And they're also from the Gelman Street scene, I believe. No, they were kicked out of Gelman Street. Gelman Street was punk and left wing. No way. So, yeah i yeah so i would go to most concerts i like i just like that live music i don't care if it's good i don't care if it's current well what you need to do is just like just go to wedding just get invited to as many weddings with bands or just start walking into them no one will mind that you're crashing because
Starting point is 00:22:04 you'll be the most excited person there you're gonna love every song you're gonna love i you know i i've said this before i do sometimes get annoyed at weddings because sometimes i do feel like the playlist's a little too boring they don't throw in a rhythm nation they don't keep i need i need a thing here and there that's just kind of interesting or new because i do i don't they're not mixing up tout funk with moore's day in the time right which they do in this did you see that scott kind of a little you know people were saying at the time the reviews were all saying that this sounds like morris day in the time like yeah and they do a little oh yo yo in the song yeah that's pretty great commentary commentary so this is subversive is what you're saying it is subversive ink because
Starting point is 00:22:46 you know there's a flirtiness between uh alice and the hatter and that just wasn't present in the original cartoon because it was a child and an insane man so they got to do it at the show now okay so we i guess we really even didn't say that. Yeah, we haven't explained the band really. Well, it's only one part of the Mad Tea Party experience. Yeah, that's true. Multiple stages and acts. Yes, that's true. But the band itself, yeah, Alice and the Mad Hatter,
Starting point is 00:23:18 both dressed in Johnny Depp, Alice in Wonderland, Tim Burton style outfits, a little probably more colorful. First of all, Tim Burton tim burton's allison wonderland the when this twisted genius gets his hands on the most twisted story of all time you'll feel like you took a little opium hit when you when you see that what if um like what if a spiral was crooked that's the kind of thing you're gonna get to see what if a fence was crooked? That's the kind of thing you're going to get to see. What if a fence was a weird, gnarled fence? That's the kind of thing that the king of twistedness, Tim Burton, is going to show you.
Starting point is 00:23:54 That's messed up. You'll think you're on laudanum. Like, it was still widely available. Is that a weird old drug? That was a weird old drug. What is it? Laudanum? Yeah, laudanum. You stumped us twice in seven minutes well not yet it's our wall he's on laudanum jason my ether rag ran out earlier so
Starting point is 00:24:15 and you tried to order a phosphate at burger king yeah they just didn't understand what you meant yeah just said mobile order number please phosphate please you're trying to type it into the app override name p-h-o uh so yeah so i think this is part of it i think is this movie i don't want it i have i've never seen these movies i've never seen them for me uh the first one is like what the highest grossing movie of all time or something it's up there it's an insane success usually popular in china to the point that they made the like a garden like a walkthrough like hedge maze sort of garden designed like the tim burton alice in wonderland characters oh really in shanghai you're saying in shanghai yeah um yeah i you know i put it on before this i was like what is i don't think i've
Starting point is 00:25:11 ever heard the mad hatter talk i haven't heard the debt mad hatter talk and then i put it on and it's like hello in the mad hatter it's like it just exactly what like johnny de Depp, he's going to create this character. He is an artisan for characters. And when you see, now let's cut to something totally different. What's Mordecai? Hello, I'm Mordecai. All right, now he's going to play General Norman Schwarzkopf. It's a very serious, it's a Gulf War, but it's a very gritty film.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Now let's see. Hello, I'm General Norman Schwarzkopf. what about his cameo in yoga hosers what does it sound like in that that is different that is a that is his reprise all of the characters oh right he was in tusk right that's correct i've blocked out of my memory that what he whatever he did he's like a bizarre canadian in that kind of like an inspector clouseau riff you know like mordecai is mordecai another inspector probably what if mordecai met the love guru what if they all met the master pistachio disguisey the master all right all right i thought i didn't know his name of course it sounds good yes his family is the disguisees to be the master of disguise i like master of disguise so much more you're not wrong to group
Starting point is 00:26:37 them together but in terms of film quality uh-huh if i had to watch one of them yeah i watched love guru not too long ago and i was pretty upset we watched it two weeks ago the child faced that when he's his head is on a little boy child face is bad i very rarely find myself calling like comedy films stand-up can be very mean but i'm like oh that comedy film wasn't me but like that is a this is a mean movie like it is just yeah he's like meets verne troyer just it's like so much shit verne troyer it's like not even like a little mean and then it is yes as mini me he's like but dr evil loves mini b he's like yeah you
Starting point is 00:27:17 know he gets kicked and stuff but like and maybe called some weird things but like it yeah this one it's all like it's great or this little shit yeah it's really we were like why is he so mean to him yeah it's like yeah i'm sure some of that stuff doesn't hold up in austin powers but man does it not hold up in the love guru master of disguise a joy just a it's a breezy 70 minutes it'll be done lickety split can't they be out of i can't they run out of like ideas with stuff that's popular and that was popular and start like remake it like just a master of disguise 10 episodes hbo max show streaming show yes like why not dear god i think everyone would enjoy that i think so so we're all losing our minds so much i think we beat up master of disguise the anthology that's as i said let's roll in the slop let's do it true detective season four just is master of disguise just
Starting point is 00:28:10 hand out combine the franchises reveal oh man a teaser like a teaser graphic that it's like a true detective is coming back and it's just one where it just says disguise and everyone's like what is it what could that be what is it it's a b yeah yes and then uh mortakai shows up i'm here too i'm here too i mean it will i mean thank you is he kind of doing an edwin like the little edwin that's sort of fun that's too fun for it's like just kind of like odd british is what it is the thing that all of his stuff is i'm just like yes regardless of whatever's happening with the with amber and whatever i don't let's take all let's put that in another box i just no more depth anyway separate issue the movies have been eating shit for so long just no more depth please i think we saw what
Starting point is 00:29:06 depth you're just here like begging like go back to hunter s thompson like go back to the hunter thompson riffs yeah well yeah he was good at that edward was good like i liked him scott's declaring war on a certain twitter account that's all i hear when he says that it truly we made fun of them for only talking about johnny depp and gina carano and it's only gotten worse they just got no they just tweeted gina carano snubbed for stuff for amy she was on one episode of the fucking season what is whoever believed that there was a possibility of gina carano pre-cancellation getting an emmy nomination you know that being said uh don did get nominated for like one scene on the opening the first episode for 78 seconds of
Starting point is 00:29:52 screen time and he was like yeah i don't get it either so maybe gina could have gotten that's kind of a fun one i'm rooting for him of course he's great yeah he deserves an emmy but he i think he is surprised like i was in that for a second one day i found more of this more set lists all right although we don't finish the explanation explain the band what are you looking at so yeah you're looking at like as i said like like brighter colored um aesthetic brighter color versions of the tim burton alice in wonderland and alice in the mad hatter are two young people i assume from the area uh that are just singing they're not playing guitar or anything they're just like the two dual singers and then the band is like has outfits that suggest other alice in wonderland characters like yes there's a drummer as the
Starting point is 00:30:36 cheshire cat uh drummer cheshire cat uh the keyboardist is the caterpillar i think that's right the bassist is the uh door mouse okay and then one of them or is the bassist the march hair i don't know the guitarist is one look like they're in like wigs it's not yeah it's not it's it's uh they look marching band the outfits actually look a lot like the descendants like the that disney those disney movies the descendants uh that's true yeah very popular that's very popular the song chilling like a villain i like from the second descendants movie but they did not play that at the manti park i don't know maybe they play a handful of rocking covers of disney songs there's a few they do on birthday they do rock and roll on birthday which is interesting because then it kind of brings it back more towards disney you know it's not then it's sort of it's a different vibe they're
Starting point is 00:31:30 not often the wiles of uh bon jovi and time warp anymore uh crazy niche they do uh okay yeah they go they i'm looking at one of these set lists here. On Birthday, and then they go right into Rock and Roll All Night by Kiss. Whoa. Which is pretty fun. Let's be honest. Pretty fun. Explain, with one more sentence, explain why that is fun. The song Rock and Roll All Night is fun.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Uh-huh. So when they play it, it's fun. And On Birthday is fun, okay. Uh-huh. Okay. I mean, I guess you're right. The juxtaposition isn't anything special. I guess you're right about that.
Starting point is 00:32:04 But the playing of that song is fun. Okay. Let's see. They moves like Jagger, which is modern. Reasonably modern. In the, like, broad, in the, like, this era. And that was the classical era. That was the Renaissance era.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah, it's technically. Here's what I think you found. And here's why I think you're so upset. Is that they play If You're Wondering If I Want You To, I Want to by weezer i did i didn't know that okay no no this is all well we're not we're just digging the hole deeper the rabbit hole deeper they did a medley of hit me baby one more time into uh an in sync song uh what was it yeah yeah yeah gonna be me i think i think so i like that i watched that clip oh that was fun and the crowd for most of these the crowd uh loves it the crowd is going wild that's not a question jason yeah i just i'm
Starting point is 00:32:53 just trying to let the listeners know maybe they weren't there if yes if the listeners were not there and they didn't get to watch i'm the most curious about this because am i getting just flamed when this comes out? It's a good question. I mean, if you see a picture of this, I think you probably go, what is this shit? But if you were there, man, I think you know what I'm talking about. I think you get it. If you were there, I think that's the whole thing. If you felt the rumbling bass of Jackson 5 ABC,
Starting point is 00:33:29 would you, when you felt those drums? That's okay. You know what? Let's do this. Let's go watch a little video. We don't have to even have the sound on. Just to get like a little walk through. I think this is opening night.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And I think we mentioned on the other episode, they had, it wasn't just the band. It was big props, big set pieces, this giant clock that would count down. I think we would on the other episode, they had, it wasn't just the band. It was big props, big set pieces, this giant clock that would count down. I think we would walk by the clock and I'd say, it's almost time to get mad. I think I would regularly, I think I regularly point that out. You were,
Starting point is 00:33:56 you were, you were right in my case. Yeah. So they would also have, as we said, two guys doing like a Cockney accent well they're tweedle dumb and tweedle d and they're the bouncers yes and they act as the bouncers doing a little bit of business they're doing some funny yes i remember interacting with them and they're wearing lifts
Starting point is 00:34:16 and they have weird costumes and they look strange here's the concept art form scott uh-huh they're big guys you can get them on a pin they're in like everlevine boots they are in wearing everlevine's boots and of course the hatters are the ones who walk around the park and encourage you to come and tell you the password to get in of course because there is like still tell yeah it's a it's a kayfabe password or whatever you'd call no i do all right i like this i like that there is a build-up i like that um see there they are right there they're like kind of standing guard before the show starts i like that there's a buildup. I like that... See, there they are right there. They're like kind of standing guard before the show starts. I like that there's like a little culture here
Starting point is 00:34:48 and like you're being invited to a secret thing. Exactly. That's all fun. There's a lot of smoke. There's a lot of fog. Is it Six Flags? I mean, it is maybe Six Flags level fog. That's a lot of fog if you're watching this video.
Starting point is 00:35:02 So I'm just trying to get you there. I'm just trying to get you there. Monorail going through in the background. Yeah mean they could have covered you know monsters inc whatever up but then you know they get up they do some fun and you know you walk through and then you get to the you know the musical performance here and then let's let's go from here is this where they play like another one bites the dust i forget what it is i did see this video uh i think it might be another one bites the dust uh i can uh i can volume up let's see um i forget which one the first performances we are the champions no it's any way any way you want to be journey okay
Starting point is 00:35:38 but i will say is i completely agree with you that i if i'm critiquing this as like a guy playing a set on it as a dj i go well this person has very normie tasted music and i might turn up my nose at the playlist a little bit even though i like a majority of these songs i would say okay but in the context of disneyland in the context of Disneyland, in the context of these dumb costumes and this bizarre stage setup, I enjoy watching this. And especially if it's live music. You can play any normie song you want,
Starting point is 00:36:14 and I'm going to enjoy it. So I just want to add that bit of context as well. Because I am half music snob, half normie idiot when it comes to music. And the live component. And the live component.'re just the live component and especially when you add fucking these guys in these leather you know i realized also as soon as i saw a video of this i'm like of course mike loves this this is the lead singer is
Starting point is 00:36:38 so much the vibe of 2010s aerosmith this is is like, this is latter day, not even 70s, 80s Aerosmith, but recent Aerosmith. These are like, it's like aesthetically so married. I direct messaged the Park MGM and I said, is there any update on Aerosmith returning
Starting point is 00:36:57 for the Deuces Are Wild Las Vegas residency for Aerosmith? They said, Mike, there's no plans right now for Aerosmith to return. Bruno Mars is coming. Yes, he is is coming yes he is um but yeah half of steven tyler's face fell off was it covet or something did no it just it had
Starting point is 00:37:13 we knew it was it was buckling and um the day came and he grinned too hard his grin was as big as a cheshire cat uh he thought about making love in an elevator too hard now mike that clip he played us i think one of the shortcomings of this whole area is it it looks remarkably better at at night when it's dark when it's dark because this is i will say you get the month the monsters ink almost blends in well because they they like paint it like um uh black light paint on some of the door frames yeah like it kind of blends into the background when it's uh dark out jason great point the show was a little better the night yeah so that was for sure true especially like when they would just like not have the like uh clock turned on it was just looked like sometimes the clock would not be
Starting point is 00:38:05 turned on yes a set just during the day and nothing's happening the whole area looks a little trashy and you might and the whole area is trashy in general none of us like this area so maybe you walk by it and uh don't explore further so you see that they had like all these different piece of furniture set out these big gaudy pieces of like pink plastic furniture which i think are cool and were fun to sit in it's again i'm burping because of this drink not because i'm emotional looking at a pink plastic chair that's too much i swear i'm not gonna cry tonight i swear i'm not gonna do it um so you yeah they had all this stuff i mean for like looking at the different like any type of band offering that disney has this is so much above and beyond
Starting point is 00:38:45 what they would normally do i feel like they'll know mr chapek will never give us the level of theming for a cover band performance of all of our favorite hits of the last 30 years this is an odd level of chapek hatred but see that nighttime that looks fantastic that looks pretty good um it does look i like light up disney things yeah i do this is not my complaint uh-huh this is cool so there's tweedledee and tweedledum there was so many light like there's this area that they're standing in front of here was just like a light show dance area and that's where i'm saying there would be like dance circles with like like children would be going in and doing stuff teenagers would be going well this entrance is the rabbit hole this
Starting point is 00:39:30 you're going down the rabbit hole thank you yeah this was the rabbit hole there was so much more thought put into this than almost every there's no like tomorrowland band stages is fine you hear all the same songs but the amount of theming to theme uh let me look at the list for to pull up a song we haven't heard before this is halloween specific karma chameleon to hear to hear uh bring me to life rolling in rolling in the deep by adele you know the the amount of lyric censored covers of nirvana to hear think again it's we've talked about this this whole this whole show is about theming you know because if you take away all the theming of your favorite ride what is it a little boat that's boring yeah so yes if you take
Starting point is 00:40:15 away all the theming of the mad tea party it's just moves like jagger which i agree is not so spectacular but down the rabbit hole with your two english friends here with the neon with the drink me menu that we haven't even gotten to yet doing bits gently teasing you yes gently that's what i'm saying it's all the fun they're calling out they have look at this on the back of their head they had tattoos d and dumb that said d and dumb. That said D and dumb. Again, this is above and beyond. This is Iger. This is Iger, I think, at the top of the money spending time in Disney California Adventure because they needed to bring people back. You think that Iger put a lot of time into the D and dumb tattoos and that Chapek spends
Starting point is 00:40:58 most of his time ensuring that this disrespectful crap never happens on my watch well i i'm hoping to be proven wrong i'm just worried that that is the case there's no weedle d and tweedle dumb making a mockery of fully bald folks i won't have it i am not a fool i am not dumb yes that's uh uh i think maybe yeah i think there will be no more head tattoos. And there's no reason they couldn't put this all back up in like a long weekend. This could all be back. Jason, I've been saying that every time we go to Disneyland since this thing got taken away.
Starting point is 00:41:34 This area like really hasn't changed. Like nothing besides like the one soundstage is Marvel shop-a-mania right now. Like this whole thing. Sorry. Oh, I was just going to say like they could have this up and running actually the shortcoming of it would be there's no annual pass holders at the moment to uh be regulars that that woman cutting her hair would go probably because she was an annual pass holder yeah she would for sure she'd get her little hat out and get her pass and then go do it
Starting point is 00:42:00 but yeah and then that little hat's just like tumbling through a dusty alley right now she like she just like tossed it with a tear in her eye knowing this would never return yeah that's sad i this i i do get also a vegas vibe from a lot of this stuff too which is what i really enjoy as well it's very vegas this drink me bar sign is not so aesthetically pleasing especially in the daytime but this feels like you know chris angel a chris angel like yeah um drink area or drink bar whatever you'd call it and then they had look at this this is on the ceiling look at that that's not where it's a table it's a cocktail table yes bar the drinks are upside down that's right upside down you know look at that look look at the audience like it like it this is a big key um and then yes so jace do you have the menu
Starting point is 00:42:52 closer uh i i don't here i can find it though okay yeah so well i can from here i can see coca-cola sprite dasani several types of fuse did they still carry fuse everywhere in disney i think they switched to gold peak okay because fuse was their like tea of choice for many years but i don't think i've ever think i ordered a fuse have you ever had a fuse i have it's not great yeah that was always i i think fuse is just as a word put me off but maybe that's just because i never had it yeah i i think it was coca-cola's offering at the time and then they switched to yeah gold peak um uh i can't read it so good but i do see mad hat ito and i see what you're saying jason without the j the the pun is
Starting point is 00:43:41 more difficult it's the mad hat itodo. The Mad Long Island Ice Tea Party. Pretty good. I think I had one of each over the few years. You did every one of them? Not in one night. Wow. But I went to this so much. Although what's funny is, and I guess we'll get to it at the end.
Starting point is 00:43:57 There's something they would do at the end of the show that I didn't even know. Because who I was with usually after 30 minutes would be like, okay, we can go do something else, right? No. Even if they weren't mad at me. No, we can no we can't yeah well that's sort of what i would say but this i was so curious what was lindsey's what did lindsey think of this uh i think she was i mean she's not a big concert person in general oh you're blaming it on concerts not this she's not she's upstairs and i don't want to bother her it's like she wouldn't i don't know like she's not that into a time warp followed by uh boys of summer love never having to say you're sorry so uh croquette love story love story that's right right or deal right or deal uh yeah so she no she wasn't a huge fan of the mad tea party or anything but she would go
Starting point is 00:44:47 watch some songs with me she would go uh indulge very nice of her very nice of her yes but they also they look she likes old-timey crap she likes uh she likes you know so i i describe her music taste as uh like an old lady singing in a little box like that's her favorite like like that she likes that stuff so uh so she's like modern does she then like uh suitcase in a dream she uh does she like they do sing california here we go there's a there's like a kind of a modern beat in suitcase in a dream but it is an old-timey song i don't forget if she likes suitcase in a dream or not we'll have to ask her busy time for live entertainment right at the front of the park between suitcase in a dream and the mad tea party they're hiring a lot of singers dancers hottest deck in town the dance crew that's right the suited dance crew i don't know what any of this
Starting point is 00:45:39 is oh they're dancers dressed like you know in kind of playing playing card inspired garb and that's in this that's in this yes there's more more fun there's a whole other stage a whole other stage with dancing with fun yeah it would be like over on the other side basically yeah like across the area what do you call it i guess it would be closer to like um the arcade yes and it kind of it's supposed to look like a house of cards really it looks like um you know girders and uh like metal lighting rigs um probably oh yeah there's a big drink me um i have i have cotton candy lemonade oh yeah i didn't realize some of these are just here um i i a couple of those Disney cube light up cubes, but that's from many different ridiculous drinks.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah, I find cubes every now and then. Oh, the fuse truck. There was a truck, a fuse iced tea truck. That might not have been real. Oh, I guess it was because it's got heart on it. That's so gross. Fuse truck. You know what fuse is, Brown?
Starting point is 00:46:41 It doesn't go as far as brisk. There's the hat. What was in there? I don't think it was was is that what you had to drink to have this i guess it was i guess i had actually had to have drink to get this go down what's the caption what what are we cheshire chiller desert pear oh i just wanted the cup you know no you would hate to choke down a bright pink icy maybe am i getting this right non-alcoholic i think it's not i think it was not alcoholic yeah because it probably was in a fun like child's cup jabberwocky juice uh-huh batters mandarin fury mandarin you don't know it has mandarin origin that is truly inexplicable yeah that would be very confusing.
Starting point is 00:47:28 This is some of the costuming for the people working. This whole thing is great if you love Russell Brand. You're a big brand head. Oh, I didn't mention that. But you don't want to hear him talk about atheism. If you're like, I want my brand without my atheism. I just want him to feel the flow man you know i'm saying i just i feel like we need to hear more from him lately that's all i think because he had a really hot couple years and now he's like just doing a podcast i met him once when was that i was uh
Starting point is 00:47:59 interning at ucb and he was uh testing out his monologue for the movie awards i thought you would drive him you had to drive him you had to get him to the Greek I didn't have to get oh I wish I had to get him to the Greek and it was this weird
Starting point is 00:48:09 this unforgettable night where and a person a woman came in she's like can I sneak in and watch a little and the manager was like
Starting point is 00:48:17 yeah sure go ahead and she was like do you know who that was because I didn't really react and I was like no and she was like that was Katy Perry but she had just changed her haircut so i think that's why you didn't
Starting point is 00:48:27 recognize her no i didn't know it she had like the like uma thurman kind of pulp fictiony kind of hair so very tall both of them hugely tall russell brand and katie perry yeah might have been the shoes let's look up the height she's wearing those teal twill d trill dumb shoes i i mean they both yeah they both might have been wearing little little heel i'm looking up katie perry height i mean everyone but she's five eight yeah i don't yeah she seems short audience uh katie perry is five seven hmm she had heels on her platforms or something must have been because he's all he's pretty tall um oh yes okay so here here's in the arcade um and the this is like the black light which these this is fun this is legit fun i would like to have round one over in burbank with all the games had this
Starting point is 00:49:15 like color scheme i think that would be pretty fun instead of just like fluorescent lights yeah little heavy on the fluorescence that there are a lot of fluorescents at that round one i agree look at this character walk around nightmare character now let's talk about him since he came up this is a show this is a character called who are you um and he is like a giant walking around slinky thing i did not know about who are you but when i started researching he was the first thing i saw and i was like yeah i gotta say who are you? But when I started researching, he was the first thing I saw. And I was like, I got to say, who are you dances that song? Where your head at? And cause he don't have a head and he is weird.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Like if you see a big rainbow, he's like a slinky mixed with like a, like a roly poly. Yeah. He, if he wasn't funny, like a fun multicolored scheme like that i think i would hate him but because of the colors i think i still have to say i like him but it is technically impressive
Starting point is 00:50:11 yeah it is a nightmarish kind of design for like a an anthropomorphic being everyone is a very you know highly skilled professor you know the musicians and the dancers and uh who are you but i gotta i don't know about who are you i think i would be scared if i saw him in person we'll link you to this disney food blog it did such a great job of hitting all the highlights right here so and there's plenty of footage on youtube they're really they're really the hunter s thompson of the mad tea yeah fear and loathing at the Mad Tea Party. That's right. I was about 50 feet from who are you
Starting point is 00:50:50 when the Cheshire Chaser kicked in. If you stood on the House of Cards stage, you could gaze out into the distance and see where the wave had crested and the water rolled back. Yeah, so this is the stage which Jason was talking about earlier, yeah, where you would get playing card dancers
Starting point is 00:51:13 who were really impressive, is my recollection. Yeah, and Tweedledee and Tweedledum would introduce them and do some bits, you know. It was a lot. There was a lot there. And then there's a man himself.
Starting point is 00:51:24 DJ White Rabbit. DJ White Rabbit. and there were many dj white rabbits i should he's got a backwards hat and with glowing backwards white hat with glowing white dj rabbit ears uh there were five prominent djs uh i guess i have to list them now dj adam auburn vind vind three are move on didn't get it fast enough next name they got to say their names dj michael paul dj jason jess dj missy b dj david bullock and then this is somebody we haven't talked about on the show before but we were very familiar with her dj wendy walker does that name mean anything to you two? There is a woman named Wendy Walker who DJs everywhere in Disneyland. And Lindsay and I have just run into her. We don't know her, but we've run into her DJing at the 80s night.
Starting point is 00:52:15 She's DJed at the Fantasy Fair area where people dance. She DJs as the White Rabbit. She plays maybe keyboard or DJs at the Tomorrowland stage. We've run into her everywhere and she's like one of the most prominent like disneyland djs there is and her name is dj wendy walker and she's everywhere and she also would would do the white rabbit here so i bet she's probably got the most disney dj experience at least at this point the white rabbit that seemed like a not i'm not going to say an easy gig,
Starting point is 00:52:46 but it seems like a pleasant gig. Like they would do in between the bands. They didn't have to do a lot of movement. You could just kind of DJ. I don't know. I don't know. Do you think being a DJ seems like it's easy? No, no, not at all.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I don't think, I'm sure it's a craft that takes a lot of, you know, learning and work like anything. I was really hoping you said, yeah. Oh, I don't want any beef with the dj community yeah you fucking hit a button what do you do what do you mean
Starting point is 00:53:11 throwing records at you like ninja stars yeah i just mean in terms of like labor for like people doing these shows like even the like main band like the the singers had like some light choreography oh yeah well they're still like singing like singing three shows a night oh that yeah that'll wreck your vocal yeah but as far as like very draining finger for the one button that a dj has to push every five minutes it sounds like you have the few lazy sack of shit djs you were hoping jason was on you're on board with you you've been waiting to make this rant oh i'm so mad at djs all of them but wendy all of them wendy wendy's great yeah i don't want to make wendy mad uh so yeah so that's dj white rabbit and it was just like there was so much going on and the show was
Starting point is 00:53:56 so long you wouldn't like you would catch different parts of the show i mean again because nobody would let me just stay there the whole time uh then this did you ever do it by yourself yeah maybe i may have walked over there somebody was like in your ideal year are you like one of these days i have to go do this for five hours i don't know how long it ran for um that's a good point uh i don't think i ever had that thought i i i don't think i was thinking i guess i was thinking it would never go away if if i i think it kind of went away quickly all of a sudden and i think if i knew we should have gone down for the last one and i would have done the whole thing well the second engagement was like a year right right yeah yeah um so no i didn't have that thought but as you say that i'm regretful that i didn't so were you upset that like so it just went away and it's like anderson cooper wasn't
Starting point is 00:54:50 even talking about it like the media didn't even address it they didn't yeah there was no abc why is no one talking about this farewell for it and it was replaced by a much worse thing that lasted very like i don't even remember i forget there was some like generic sort of like summer festival thing and never couldn't even they barely put any work the lone ranger rave people are pretty pissed the lone rave dj tanto it's me dj taboo now there's a funny picture of a person here who was obviously upset about electronica going away i heart tron but this will do for now uh-huh so he was a big electronica fan which i also like electronica a lot it was much more uh sinister but electronica yeah it was like a dark
Starting point is 00:55:42 more of an edm some of those like kind of uh dark uh deaf punk score songs well yeah the dance party the world that they're going into when they get to the the rave the tron rave in tron legacy it is a very great it's a grim scene that's not a really a fun party right oh not like the one at uh yeah it should have been fun like the the zion rave in uh the matrix too yeah the horn's got those theme part nobody's there's no matrix that's a good question it's warner so they're screw all right well nothing warner can ever be anywhere well warner brother i mean warner brothers did experiment with kind of like uh haunts and stuff that one halloween season well they had no i was just thinking this i've seen people there's
Starting point is 00:56:24 like a new kind of elaborate studio tour oh they buffed up the studio tour and like you're like part of it's like harry potter or something yeah yeah should we get free tickets and do that i mean of the harvest sure i mean because it's very close we can go drive by the way to do yeah i've never done that tour yeah i've never done it but if they yeah they have like more themed stuff i think to walk through it's not haunts but yeah yeah okay we'll do that um so yeah matrix will never you would think there would have been a generic like six flags coat maestro matrix coaster that's just green lights and that's it that's well like maybe it like hangs you and it's like bullet time or something like it's some like it doesn't really apply but they use the phrase um dr or what is it mr smith dr smith dr smith no wrong that's the matrix four is coming you know oh yeah there's always this time mr anderson okay he's not even smith oh mr uh smith
Starting point is 00:57:20 uh yeah he's the bad guy okay okay there's a mr smith agent smith agent smith agent smith and mr anderson okay okay it was what dr what agent smith says yeah he calls him mr anderson and they're all being played by the merovingian the master manipulator wait who the merovingian that was one of the other weirdos in the sequels. Oh, is that three? No, I think that he's the one they're trying to get to in the second one. We've been stumped again. Stumped again. You stumped us for the third time.
Starting point is 00:57:55 He's not the guy with the TVs. He's like the guy who's very rich. Look up how tall he is. Oh, is he 5'7"? I think Russell brand might be tall but am i taller than him i bet i'm taller than russell brand okay okay i'm gonna have to talk about something you're both googling facts i don't have i've got nothing i didn't look up what this is there's a guy in a you're making me cover there's a guy in a blonde wig. I have nothing here. Find your facts and be 6'1".
Starting point is 00:58:25 Oh, a blonde wig like the twins from The Matrix Reloaded. 6'1 is what he is. Dr. Smith 1 and 2, the twins. Oh, okay, wait. I found the replacement. This guy, the Merovingian. Remember him? The Merovingian?
Starting point is 00:58:39 Oh, he's the guy in the restaurant. He's the guy in the restaurant with the women. There are two women with him. Yeah, I remember that. Find the next drink name or something. We've talked enough about the Merovingian. Yeah, I didn't remember that was his name. That's a good poll, by the way, if that's accurate,
Starting point is 00:58:55 unless you've just completely butchered the character. The replacement was a temporary freeze the night, a family dance party inspired by Frozen. Yeah, anything they threw in related to frozen is all trash and i don't think it's the fault of frozen or they just that they didn't anticipate it and then like we need as much frozen as humanly possible yeah we don't care what it is the quick frozen solutions didn't really work um which yes no fault and then of course uh yeah so i mean that's that's the the gist of the Banty Party.
Starting point is 00:59:26 They had a Halloween set list, you know, where they would do a lot of the same songs, but they would do, you know, they would do Enter Sandman. And this is Halloween from Nightmare Before Christmas. Yeah, and Thriller, in one way or another. Oh, because it's about getcha i'm gonna get you get you get you won't yeah it's kind of about a pursuit that is a scary song if you think about it
Starting point is 00:59:52 there's a lot of like they people have to do halloween adjacent like you have to like uh um what's that word about co-opting uh retcon you have to retcon like rockwell somebody's watching me into halloween i see things like that happen you have to like all right that's kind of yeah it's about it's scary it's about like paranoia yeah yeah who could it be now that's halloween that's a halloween song we all agree it's in because they have mascot killer has a mask on like there's a mask on i mean they know can it be now but like who are you the slinky guy who are you by the who well yeah it's a mystery that's a scary song it could be uh dracula it could be dracula the caterpillar says who are you in uh
Starting point is 01:00:32 house in wonderland i think that's why oh yeah so he should sing who are you by uh who have we talked about the this is like a kevin perger and Defunctland discovered this fact long ago. This was it. He, he, I give him credit for making this prominent, but I was a real latecomer in, there was the show Adventures in Wonderland, the Disney Channel show. And do you guys know where I'm heading with this? The bizarre fact about this show? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:02 There was like, there's a number of episodes like this you know whatever 80 episodes or so but only 79 exist and can be seen anywhere because the one episode that they don't show anywhere has a guest appearance by oj simpson oh right and this was filmed and ready to air in 1994 like it was like on the cusp when it happened. And it's about like the rabbit. Maybe I'm wrong on the character, but it's like the rabbit wants to be an athlete or play football or something. And then real OJ Simpson walks into his room
Starting point is 01:01:38 and hey, it's me, OJ. And then OJ's in Wonderland then later. And they didn't do this ever. They didn't have real people in the show so just in this one instance hey it's me like the rabbit oh if only i could meet some great athlete like oj simpson but weirdly images of it are pretty prevalent because they made a book of the episode what there are only like three or four that they were all right let's go let's you know rush out our
Starting point is 01:02:05 little paperbacks of adventures in wonderland and one of them happened to be this oj episode and it was already off to presses too late can't pull it back that's insane copies on eva i looked immediately copies are like 600 yeah you bid you bid 600 have to have this well no aaron caught me doing it and said no no no no kick the mouse out of your hand the baby doesn't need formula every day the baby needs a story to be read i'm doing every night this is for the baby and so the rabbit wished and wished and who should walk in but oj how did you hey uh how did you learn to read like did your parents read to you when you were younger oh yeah well what were some of your favorite books
Starting point is 01:02:49 this alice in wonderland book that had you know alice oj simpson the march air all my favorite alice characters tweedle dumb oj tweedle d that's uh that's like when i sent you a screenshot of i forget what maybe it was 2b if 2b has the here's lucy catalog on it i was like this is a shot of gail gordon lucille ball and oj in like 1978 um anyway uh here's some names of the arcade games from the mad arcade while you pull those up let me try and refresh your guy's memory the merovingian is married to persephone monica belucci's yes okay she was one of the big she's you know yeah she's just start reading the names read the names okay the mad arcade okay and it had games such as whack a hat and the bandersnatch ball so kind of makes less sense at this dance party they didn't want to do
Starting point is 01:03:48 too much yeah stuff they had to keep some of the stuff all the vintage games for um yes uh wreck it ralph so right that's true um so the yeah that was a little bit of an afterthought but they'll i still through still i'm talking like johnny depp now um they still uh the effort was there the effort was there the effort was everywhere in every aspect of this show and that's what i very much appreciate about it um because yeah you you take this and you put it what was some of the band what was the uh cover band at tomorrowland uh suburban legend if they did this song i'd say all these songs i would be like yeah great great fun dis Disney set for the normies.
Starting point is 01:04:27 And then I would, but I would not be doing a patron episode about it. It's because you, there's the whole approach. There's, they really made a little world back there. They took, you know, it really, it is what raves do where they take a rundown derelict warehouse that feels not even safe to be in, and they fill it with life and a party, and that's what that Hollywood area has felt like for many decades now. It's true to the rave experience.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I found this video somebody cut together, Mad Tea Party, experience it. And this gives you really, like you were there, this makes you feel kind of the vibe. Now, I don't know what this music is. I don't know if they played this at the Métis party, but this is how excited people were.
Starting point is 01:05:12 They were dancing. They were being themselves. They were just being their authentic selves. Look at this guy in a tank top dancing. They were being fireworks, baby. They were, yes. Make them shoot up as they shot into the sky. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:28 You don't see people dancing like this. These people don't feel like plastic bags. No. No, they don't. I'm probably in one of these shots. Let's be honest. June 2012, you know, between the dog on top of his station wagon and the binders full of women, the Romney campaign's over.
Starting point is 01:05:47 A second Obama administration is a foregone conclusion at this point, and these people are celebrating. Yeah, Jason's going to be in this video spinning on his head in the middle of the circle, and I'm cheering him on. You know, doesn't this seem fun? Even taking all the irony out of it,
Starting point is 01:06:03 I'm not saying this is as good as a cool rock concert. I could see. Here's what. You have not gotten me on board with liking this, but you have gotten me on board with that maybe I would have stopped at this and enjoyed it for 20 minutes. I mean, that's a victory as far as I'm concerned with this episode. In the episode, I knew this was a battle uphill,
Starting point is 01:06:24 and I didn't think i was gonna win re-watching all these clips it's really i i did not appreciate it at the time i think i enjoyed revisiting it right before jason you shot past the correct answer i don't like big crowds usually especially back then but now i'm like you don't usually go to a concert with me some from because you were more of a no we went to new pornographers at the Ace Hotel
Starting point is 01:06:49 new pornographers there's a dancing who are you who are you yes yeah but yeah when I would suggest that you would laugh
Starting point is 01:06:56 and you would go with but you weren't like nearly as excited to see this as I was but I no because you would post up you were ready to post up
Starting point is 01:07:01 yeah I'm glad you're to hear that you you regret how you felt about it at the time you like to apologize can you i'm glad you're to hear that you you regret um how you felt about at the time you like to apologize can you would you mind apologizing to me now i i'm very sorry i'm sorry you know i just put more like elaborate on it more like why what did you do wrong a little more anxious didn't want to hang out back there for too long and now i'm a little more leveled out and i would love to be at the bad tea party right now i'd kill to be there honestly and i'll kill again i've killed before i'll kill again i'll
Starting point is 01:07:29 keep killing i'll kill as many people as it takes however apology whatever it takes to summon dj white rabbit to his macbook pro i'm ready that lazy piece of shit rabbit okay dj just all lazy no that's you that's you talking is that it did we survive no wait no no there's one more thing no uh one more thing that i do think is funny and bad and i need to play it because i did not i never knew jason jason this a couple hours ago texted me did you know about this and i went jason this is the exact thing i said i needed to play and so i do want to set up so when the second time they brought it back that big teapot that big like kooky teapot behind the band but taken away it seemed like that
Starting point is 01:08:12 had been moved or taken away and it seemed like the screens really can't get done with the episode before we explain that the giant teapot on stage was taken away for the last run of the show it was taken away and the graphics and video content kind of amped up. Yes. So Jason's getting emotional too. That's what's happening. So yeah, this is, I really shouldn't play all of this, but there's little chunks here.
Starting point is 01:08:35 This was like kind of the closing thing and it is pretty embarrassing. You're saying that after all this? It's embarrassing. Now, here. Hey, brother. Yes, brother.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I think it's time. Absolutely. Not this part. These guys are great. Yes. So this is the big finale, basically. What set the stage?
Starting point is 01:09:01 Well, that's a little, like, sorry, yeah. Music box kind of wind up toy and tweedle dee and tweedle dum have like started it and now it's playing and yeah and the motion graphics are just starting because they go wild and again i did not know about this i'm i regret i apologize to the show for never seeing it because i really would have liked to have seen this there's a cutesy moon yes crescent there there's video i think of the
Starting point is 01:09:27 opening of the second run of this where you tumble down the rabbit hole and you go buy a bunch of vintage disneyland tickets and you go buy the the modern annual pass holder logo and then it opens the door to the tea party yes uh so there's a a rock is Scott playing a rock and guitar when you wish upon. So Walt. OK, by the way, we should go back. Actually, Walt. There's more. There's more.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Walt just started talking, by the way. And then they go from when you wish upon a star into the song. Best day of my life. What's this song? It's a song that... Oh, it's in a lot of insurance commercials, Gap commercials, fast food commercials. Like, that's really where I do it.
Starting point is 01:10:11 I had to look it up. It's by the American authors. Never heard this before. It's not... It's not a song... Uh-oh! Uh-oh! Uh-oh!
Starting point is 01:10:24 Please, let music keep being this for more decades how many o's and o's you know this is a real you've never heard this this is you know peacetime decadence we didn't know what was coming four years later we had no idea what was everything is stems from the politics of the era, but okay. Oh, Walt in a bunch of frames. So Walt has appeared now in the back of a bunch of frames. You can hear him talking.
Starting point is 01:10:56 They have spliced in. Wow. And they're all masturbating just at seeing Walt. They all have big boners. So there's, like, all these pictures in the back of Disney. As if they're, like, saying goodbye to Disney. The American authors, I guess, are paying tribute now to Waltz somehow.
Starting point is 01:11:21 And then, yeah, they just go like this. More Walt clips. And, yeah, they just splice like this more wall clips and yeah they just blyson waltz for some reason at the end of this and as the dancers come up on stage and do a big finale hottest deck in town the hottest thank you the dancers are the hottest deck in town um and i never got to see this live i never got to see this big finale that i think is really funny. Because of...
Starting point is 01:11:48 I don't know. Why would you put... Who gives a shit? Why would you put Walt in there? You know, the anniversary was all about the history of Disneyland. Yeah, but the... It's not like the whole show was like a salute to Walt. No, but if you scroll to the very end.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, it's just the Disney, like a giant Disneyland logo that flips to a giant Manteeland logo that flips to a giant man tea party logo that explodes into diamonds yeah i don't know they were really pushing the diamond thing i guess because they didn't have a new fucking ride for that person yes i remember we
Starting point is 01:12:36 were disappointed that there was not a crazy they put the hatbox ghost on haunted mansion that was it and they coasted on the fantasy fair yeah but they decided they could put some clips of walt in the mad tea party and maybe that the audience will be satiated they coasted on the fantasy fair yeah we're good for a while we put one thing in one corner there really wasn't much new stuff until galaxy's edge they did uh in disneyland classic i think i've told the story before is that they had a big event a year prior to the diamond diamond anniversary and i because i was clicking fast i got tickets to the like special fan event and they were supposedly going to announce a bunch of rides and then they didn't but instead they gave us a bunch of free stuff yeah you got a big paperweight you got a big
Starting point is 01:13:20 paperweight i got like a fast got a classic fast pass to everything. I got food. We got free food at Disney. And it was like, we forgot real quick that it was supposed to be an announcement of the great stuff coming. It worked. But it worked. Shut you up. It was great.
Starting point is 01:13:36 We took a picture with Anna and Elsa. We were like, we got fast passes. Wow. No one was like, there's rides aren't going to be here. We're not going happy with the offerings didn't matter the nk just wanted to party with mad hatter and just wanted to party with mad hatter well let's look also i because i flipped through this too and a lot of the videos are from the last night that this band performed and look there i don't hold it against
Starting point is 01:13:59 them emotions run high on the last night of anything i you know some shoot ends of something that nobody ends up seeing and you still make a speech because you really went through something i don't hold the emotion against them but you do i'm just flipping through like they're doing like a like a conan last tonight show level like because i want to say one, one thing before we leave the stage and that is to be kind because kindness is what makes the world go round. And maybe if everyone was a little bit kinder, like, okay, look,
Starting point is 01:14:34 you are dressed like the Johnny Depp Mad Hatter. You just did a cover of Separate Ways. You did a medley of Jump Drive and Whale and Stray Cat Strut. And now like, because if all of us, if you, me,ley of jump, jive, and wail and street cat strut. Because if you, me, all of us work together to bring love into this world. I mean, it's very funny. But also, maybe they touched as many hearts as Conan did on The Tonight Show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:59 You know? I mean, the declining viewership of late night television for the last 10 plus years. You're probably right. In a lot of ways, Jay was right. You know, Conan wasn't getting the ratings. You know? I mean, the declining viewership of late night television for the last 10 plus years, you're probably right. In a lot of ways, Jay was right. You know, Conan wasn't getting the ratings. You know? So, he wasn't getting the ratings.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Jay's ratings were way down, too. Yeah, but no, I'm just saying, Conan, like, look, if you're not getting the ratings, okay. It might be more overall, but there is a video of like one, it's probably one of the last nights, and they say, I know some of you have been here all weekend like there were regulars yes that's what colin said too you've been here in the rain you've been like oh yeah people yeah people people protest people tried to burn the park down team team coco what's the team coco for the uh mad tea party get back team t look team t yeah team t we're team t now tnt to the park and said mad tea party goes we all go yeah they got there were so many suicide bombers in the last weekend of this a very popular show uh i mean look we can still
Starting point is 01:16:00 try to get it back i think i think there's still a chance again there's like nothing over there i know i don't eat i'm sure it cost a bit of money for all of these that's summer of heroes because they can't call it marvel or something the summer of heroes rough yeah uh with the guardians rides great but that summer heroes where you just get to like watch black widow drive around in an armored vehicle and that was made basically the entertainment but i was like they have the guardians of the galaxy is a good soundtrack that a regular person would like why don't you just have a band play that and they did not do that yeah they have a little dance actually yeah having a band kind of dresses all the characters and if there's a if there's a raccoon drum yeah they did they did they did a little more of a
Starting point is 01:16:45 version of it in epcot they do it like outside with a boombox they do a tiny show tiny show but yeah play those songs they didn't do that and then it doesn't feel like there's any room for fun like a fun thing like that and avengers campus no because it's just the uh you know spy agency torture of just the avengers soundtrack played forever that's i wonder if it's still like that i'm so curious that i am too yeah it seems like right after we were there like a week or 10 days later um all restrictions were pretty much dropped so people just walk into the land everyone's walking through and i was I was like, okay. Oh, man. I made the wrong call on that one.
Starting point is 01:17:32 But yeah, Doctor Strange should come through the portal and be like, this is the best day of my life. But I don't think that's going to happen. They're going to have to build another stage or something. Marvel rocks. Yeah, I'm on board with all of it so would you what is it theming wise do you think the same set list but if you put a different property on it or a different aesthetic would that go a long way into your i i think the jack fm set list is a big that's ablock for me um okay so that's that's probably the primary you know one thing i think just uh the request number one we've have we not experienced don't stop believing enough i agree we not have we like yes this is i think we've all had our time with it
Starting point is 01:18:19 we've all it's time to say goodbye yeah it's like this it's time for it to explode into diamonds there's never be played by a band again there's a lot of though i mean we should do a page round of songs we all think should never be played again which there's i don't know that we've gotten every and we've turned this box as many times as it can be turned i'm i'm i'm no sweet i'm sweet caroline is out for me of course yeah yeah i think that's retired jason do you have a one to throw in the pile i don't know that's so good so good so good what yeah i don't like i have nothing that's in my top 10 things that annoy me yeah i really it annoys me yeah i don't even think i put Don't Stop Believin' in this top 10, but I get that.
Starting point is 01:19:05 But you have one? No? No. Don't Stop Believin' was up. I feel like every party I went to in college, in the 2000s, someone would put that. Everybody discovered it. And I kind of liked, I don't know, I didn't feel like I had my time with it. I feel like I discovered Journey, and then the Journey ended.
Starting point is 01:19:27 We're covered on that that enough dueling piano bars the problem is your average person doesn't go hard on the b-sides of anything like the average person knows 20 songs and the people at these places are like we want to make those people happy so makes sense um but you're saying add another yeah if you could yeah take any property probably disney just for the mental exercise uh uh just like to overlay it with an aesthetic with the same set list that you think maybe would improve this 25 what do i want to see a rave of um uh i mean i you know some what some sort of like i'd be interested in a 2013 glam winnie the pooh where it's like guys in big it's a bright like british uh trench coats
Starting point is 01:20:23 these people are meant to represent rabbit and eeyore okay yeah that's good i'm way on board with that that's really weird uh that would be very very odd yeah hundred acres of rock yeah there's stuff that i mean there's stuff that makes sense like not it doesn't have to be a hyperspace hoopla but i like elements of it like just have a band have a figure in dan and the modal nodes or something well that would make too much sense to do i guess no i want to see like darth vader playing a guitar like uh hyperspace hoopla like six and it's battle of the bands like that would be very fun day of my life life uh yeah i agree i yeah dumb i want it to be dumb as hell are the avenge yeah even just all the avengers like people in avengers costumes sure you know yeah but that that makes yeah
Starting point is 01:21:16 it would have to be that would have to be 10 years ago they everything is too serious i think yes so it would have to make sense they would have to have a character that plays music in the movie i think or they'd have to have hawkeye do it because jerry renner hawkeye rocks rock guy is rock guy and now and he does the jeremy renner song yeah if he did the medicine oh man if he did yeah heaven don't Don't Have a Name, Medicine, the Jeremy Renner cover of House of the Rising Sun. House of the Rising Sun. And then he takes his guitar picks and puts them on arrows and shoots them into the crowd.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. I mean, for my, yeah, the answer for me is just, there's no bad suggestion for this. There's no bad overlay to put on this, to put on these songs. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Take any Disney property. Take Bringing Down the house with steve martin great yeah the kids from prom doing prom actually that's a good idea doing prom back here you go everybody goes to prom that's true that is a movie that i only mostly know because they had posters of it back in this area yeah yeah i don't really know what it is but if it's prom theme you know what i would like is a prom theme thing where like all the drinks are like the bar is kind of hidden and so you're like it's meant to evoke that you're sneaking it in so they give you drinks in like a like an old water bottle oh yeah dirty gatorade bottle or a Gatorade bottle with a label removed yeah a little bit of the paper
Starting point is 01:22:48 sticking around yeah it's all torn up on it yeah mm-hmm um yeah that's good Artemis foul and it's many friends and cohorts run cougar run oh yes which we just discovered yeah
Starting point is 01:23:02 episode uh yeah Any of those. It's bullwhip. It's bullwhip. I will say, also, just from going to Videopolis when the 80s night they had, it is nice to have, I feel like these places, you get a little energy, a little jolt at like a 9 p.m. If you're going all night, if you're going to midnight, you get a little live music, get a little bass,
Starting point is 01:23:24 and then you're ready for another three hours you know yeah yeah wake people up i do like stopping by a thing dancing for uh one minute like no longer than that doing a quick little pass through and yeah you're right it does give you it gives you a little speed a little boost um and then if you and then if you happen to be like when they played like rhythm nation then you would be like wow very impressed and then you would be like, wow, very impressed. And then you would have. There was a chance you could have just wandered by during Rhythm Nation and thought that they were playing like some cooler songs. And that it would have colored your whole impression for a decade.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Maybe so. But that didn't happen. Well, I just didn't walk back here at all. But now I've taken a long walk back here. A long walk back. Do you believe it's only been an hour and 24 minutes jesus christ you survived podcast the ride that's that's that's what we got to do on that right unless you have any now do you now do you want to have any any tearful last words no i just and i
Starting point is 01:24:18 mean last words because there's no mad tea party too i'll tell you that much well they did get to say goodbye twice they did get to say there wasn't there wasn't there a conversation where we were talking about you suggested that we do this and then i think jason said well what if we combine it with electronica and you were like jason no that can't no no that's two different things i was pitching a month of oh i see i the other you're pitching doing them combo and mike thought like hang on no no we make a lot of fun you know on this podcast about which jason says sometimes but he would never i would never ever ever suggest combining those into two episodes he knows jason's aware get to the others well now all right now my heart
Starting point is 01:24:56 fell apart i'm very sorry i do stuff like that i do even knows what the the playlist for glow fest or electron we'll have to look into it, Glowfest. Yeah, we'll have to. And also, you know, I keep floating the idea of doing a musical, a live musical podcast at Riot, and I just think maybe we find some of these costumes. Dear God. I gotta end this episode before you get any more ideas. It's always a good time.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Scott doing, don't stop believing. Dressed as the man. What would happen to, how many more of these elderberry drinks are you going to have to give me? You'd have to take the pill. Take the pill. You need to know that if you ever see this happening, that I am not okay. I am in distress. If this is in a live setting, audience, stand up and say, Scott's not okay.
Starting point is 01:25:44 He would have never, this is my will right setting, audience, stand up and say, Scott's not okay. He would have never. This is my will right now. In my dream. Wow, Mike and Scott are dressed like the walrus and the carpenter, and they're doing Shake It Off. Jason's dressed like the young oysters, the baby oysters. In my dreams. Yeah, this is just the whole complexion of this music show has changed now that i've been thinking about mad tea party all right we're wrapping this up keep it keep stay
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