Podcast: The Ride - Unlocked: Six Flags Live

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Enjoy this sample of P:TR - The Second Gate. Find even more Second Gate episodes at Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Over 20 years ago, Six Flags made a grimy, MTV-style television pilot where frosted-tipped dudes talked music, current events and midriffs. It was an unpleasant, barely watchable disaster, i.e. a perfect topic for us. Here's a link to this piece of shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoalXMgLKtw Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever! Dog! 5, 4, 3, 2, 1! Yeah! Yo, welcome to podcast, the ride. We say it with a little extra ass because I want to take a ride on that ass. You know how we do, baby. This is SCO Double Tizzy.

You know I'm getting busy. We got Mikey C in the place to be. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Sorry, just adjusting the ones and twos. Oh, yeah. You know, that's the cool way. That's how we're calling it this summer. It's ones and twos. We don't that's that's the cool way that's how we're calling it this summer it's like it's ones and twos we don't even know the name of the equipment

we're using uh jay shizzle he's all up in that pizzle you know it's jason j-a-s-o-n like when the fellas say it love when the ladies yell it let me hear that's something you would say on any episode let's just splice that put it into a regular intro and see how confused people get um yeah hey it's podcast around the second gate here and um this is one where i would say you don't have to watch what we're talking about for this to make sense but you might want to do like a little just just dip your toe in just you know yeah get that toe a little wet get a little wet in there get all wet up in it and just to get a sense of the vibe that's all you know you don't need to watch this full half hour but i think the vibe is important before we start uh explaining some things about this if you watch

the first two or three minutes you'll get it but if you watch the full 29 minutes it will feel like two hours of your life at fast it is definitely a different time zone this uh this special this i think is maybe one of the strangest things we've i showed it to jane and she i think her response was why are you punishing me what did i do why are we watching this that's well that's the kind of thing yeah i i i'm prepared to make those those kinds of statements i think this is one of the most repellent things that we've ever watched you called it cursed the first time i said it it's pretty it's pretty cursed yeah and i well here just to say the whole history so we're talking about something called six flags live and i'm excited about this because it feels kind of in the spirit of weird failed non-theme park or roller coaster endeavors of the six flags organization yes um i was i'm

still very delighted by six flags roller coaster cuts that they tried to do a children's hair salon um and i'm like you know it's the kind of thing you can't force a sequel to you got to just bump into it so my delight when a little while ago a twitter account called lost media busters which has some good stuff in general is worth following in general um but they posted a lost half hour teen oriented pilot made by six flags in 2001 uh this was posted to a youtube channel called retro six flags also has some very interesting stuff on their channel yeah i did a little dive after and i don't remember any of it but it was i was so excited that there was that because there's a lot of that for disney and some for universal you know yeah retro the old because we do so god knows this

podcast is born out of like oh the way it used to be remember old disney mgm studios and you see almost none of this with six flags and i i think that the audience for it is pretty limited because all of the the view counts on this channel are all like sub 300 but it's like area music or voice tracks like it's stuff we like but it is really uh so much of dizzy and even universal is preserved but it's really lost media when you start trying to find six flags it's really where yet i just don't think it's not an area that because you know the the vibe of six flags especially around this time and that's what this episode is all about is a little bit in your face it's a little bit of its time so having like the the like you know low like the thoughtful nostalgia for the magic of

six flags just seems so rare to me i yeah this is wow my impression was that they were going to play this in the lines for rides is that right maybe hard to say yeah some some of the literature indicates that basically so this this goes up on on twitter a little while ago uh a couple of listeners brought it to our attention josh d a regular history buff uh ben stands um and so i was like poker it was on my like to-do list i think i was busy that way that day and jason you flagged it and then not i didn't like buckle down and watch it until uh our friend kevin tolly alerted us to just send us the link without saying anything and i said oh yeah i've been meaning to get to this.

And then his next texts really sparked my attention. And he said, this is, I believe like the video from the ring. I watched it all. And now I have this unshakable feeling. I'm going to die within seven days. I think I had only watched the first few minutes when I sent,

when I sent it to you guys and then when i sat down and watched all of it i was a little like this is unbelievable yeah yeah it's uh it's a hell of a it's a hell of a tone to lock into for a while and i completely uh agree with kevin's sentiments he did not pass away but i this is it was over seven days ago yeah yeah yes um i do worry about sending listeners to watch the given how like real the ptr curse has been over the course of the whole year uh seems to have affected aerosmith the band in general we brought aerosmith down they're no longer able to perform live because of steven's voice in case you didn't hear the news well because of us is what happened.

Because of us, yeah. Uh-huh. Because you believed too much. Because you believed in their music and you believe in him, the man, and all of his deeds

too much. Yeah, I believe in all of his deeds and I always say that. You've always said that. People are saying it but I'm saying it the most. Check out Stephen Tyler's deeds.

He did perform Mama Kin with the Black Crows like two months ago so I've got false hope that he was fine. You know, two months ago, he seemed like he was singing on stage. But I bet he can't just sing a full concert anymore. Mama Kin, probably. That's a heck of a blues jammy jam.

You go rock, you go fast there. But you don't have to belt it out necessarily like you do Dream On. So it's not the vocal strain necessarily. yeah we took him down sadly yeah um so listeners beware i guess if you want to get into this but given the you know what we've what we've said about it thus far but this is available on youtube and on retro six flags it's a half hour and um just to get into the vibe of it. So it's called Six Flags Live. And if it wasn't clear enough from it being called that, then you get into it and there's young hosts with microphones,

and the microphones say SFL in kind of like a thin, slithery font, sometimes lowercase. like okay well this is font i do find it to be a lascivious yeah yeah it's a lot of this is lascivious or what's the term misogynist that's certainly the case yes um and it's but from that sfl shortening you're like okay well this is certainly six flags attempt at a tr a Total Request Live, which was a ubiquitous linchpin of pop culture in our era when we were growing up. So they had this idea, okay, what if we took Total Request Live, which has provided this vibrant hub to MTV's operation and lifted all these these record sales and now it's like part of the time square attraction what if we did that in six flags parks what if we all right what if it was a trl in places where roller coasters are passing by every 10 seconds so everyone has to

shout over them and what if we put live in the title but it seemingly has no way to actually be live right and what if on top of that a lot of the function of it is sports scores that might complain about sports scores two of the minute let me like let me digest them give them to me weeks later i don't need don't like don't bug me with this go up to the minute scores sports scores and lists from magazines yes there's so much about like oh rolling stone said this or uh l magazine said this contour magazine is talking about the the 10 sexiest belly buttons of the summer what you think there are some confusing belly button shirt there's confusing belly button shirts the jeans look weird that's like confusing sure that's spiky pixie cut well the one woman has

like a shirt that looks like curtains oh yeah to showcase their belly button and i haven't seen one of those in like 20 years that's an old school thing i guess nobody ever brought that back belly button like tassels to hide your little belly button. Well, they don't do a very good job. There's a tantalization of the tassels. Sometimes you see it, sometimes you don't. Also, there's monologue jokes, essentially, hidden in the... Yeah.

There's just segments where people are doing monologue jokes for a late night talk show. There is a good amount of monologue jokes, and some of them are one take because they stutter or words are rearranged. Like 100% of this was one take. A lot of it is one take, yeah. Can I, early in the special, there is this segment, and this is like a hard monologue joke. It is a terrible joke, but the setting of it is really something. If I could just play this real quick.

Yeah, yeah, please. Can you believe it? The Backstreet Boys are finally back on track as far as their tour goes, now that AJ has graduated from alcohol abuse treatment. We'll see how long that lasts. That is a joke about, like, we'll see how long that lasts that is a joke about like we'll see if that rehab takes like you're i think you're being incredibly kind by calling it a joke i it is it i still mean statement it is very mean but it is delivered in a lazy river and i'm like well delivering monologue

jokes in a lazy river that's not a job i ever considered but i think i would like it i'm not this quality of joke not this quality of joke where it's just like you said a mean statement you had to film that ad in the pool and it like damn near killed you if you had to do that all day every day wasn't a lazy river well but i didn't it wasn't a lazy river i didn't have a big I didn't, it wasn't a lazy river. I didn't have a big floaty, you know. Okay, okay. In the later spot where I am in a big floaty,

it was very comfortable. Okay, okay. Can we try to make a pilot sort of on the down low at one of these water parks with Jason in a lazy river where he does monologue jokes? I'll just shoot it on the iPhone.

Yeah. Okay. Which, what, what's the one at Knott's? Mike, at Soak City. Soak City, okay. Well, is there a lazy river at soak city let's look into it soak city becomes talk city yeah donald trump's added to get jason oh is that you drowning well i fell out of the tube you're just floating in an inner tube asking women as they walk by, you got any tattoos? Hey, you.

No. You got any tattoos? No, I don't want to bother anyone. Oh, okay. So it's just jokes. Well, it's a different format than Six Flags Live. Okay. There's a lot less accosting.

Yeah, I didn't say anything about six. I meant like actually crafted jokes. Well, we want to get some views on this, though, so we got to see some tattoos. That's my point of view on it. But okay, well, we'll talk off air. Do you have Amazing Grace? The musical notes, notes but i'm gonna call it lyrics for some reason that was the history of it is that mike kept pushing into the show into this sexy place when

jason just wanted it to be about the joke craft anyway jason drowned after that and he they did bring him back with enough cpr but it was the type of cpr that had to go for so long it broke his ribs so he's healing from that well i know the rumor coming out about this show is that it's so funny that people are busting ribs but that's not it's it wasn't the comedy it's not and i yeah i did not get a rib removed for a marilyn manson kind of thing i would really like that rumor going around that jason got his rib removed yeah let's let's snuff that out one single i know that i know that i know that jason's the sex positive the comfortable one a bunch but he's not that not comfortable enough for that surgery no no not yet at least plus he doesn't need a rib remove to get down to that baby this guy's flexing y'all um uh i'm surprised they didn't talk about that

in the yo this is going around about my my boy marilyn m um so yeah this special um all right there's not a lot of information about where it came from or indeed the use of it was this going to be like an online thing or were they going to show it in the the line it did seem like that was indicated here's what we know from the youtube description it was this going to be like an online thing or were they going to show it in the the line it did seem like that was indicated here's what we know from the youtube description it was produced by a company called ackerman mcqueen hold on to that name for later but for now all you need to know is that ackerman mcqueen produced all of six flags advertising content around this time so it's the same entity that is making the commercials and as when i heard that like okay this makes a ton of sense because there is a the the ickiness of the vibe definitely

crosses over to the kinds of ads that i saw in the late 90s that scared me away from magic mountain to this day uh besides that like i mean you know because they're the the modus operandi i think was too like it's not sweet little magical disney ads it's full of screaming and terror and uh and push your push yourself to the limit and like it's like i was trying to watch a few ads to find ones with the vibe oh yeah there we go it's a lot of the same shit they do things will be like heavily tinted blue or brown yeah and uh just make sometimes making the park look post-apocalyptic that's what they're going for uh can you survive the wasteland and then it'll then they'll cut to like a guy getting blasted in the face by a hair dryer that's a foot off camera so it looks like

the ride is blasting his cheeks back and then i could i've i feel like maybe this company in this style of ad is what pioneered the use of my favorite scream in sound effect media the howie scream the ruah which uh that's like you know not the willhelm but the one with the kind of like yeah second level of guttural anyway i think that was six five stuff at that time just very like over tinted over edited gross fonts edgy could try to scare you but then in watching a bunch last night i was also reminded that no matter how like you know do you dare like brave the pits of hell then it still had to end with five dollars up with a coke can from your local the markets were never cool with getting too scary with these

things right and just a point of clarification there is no mr six in the special that comes later i believe it does come later, I believe. is the dawn of Mr. Six. So Mr. Six was a company coming in hot. We're not going to be doing this edgy Six Flags Live stuff. We are going to create an icon that will last generations. Ackerman McQueen had to shift all their efforts to making the movie Domino, if you remember that. No. Who was in Domino?

Domino, is that Keira knightley it's the bounty hunter movie i think it is tony scott but it's like really over it it very much has this aesthetic 2005 yeah kira knightley tony scott yeah okay um a donor is the name wb donor is the name of the company that took over they that created Mr. Six. Prior to that, back in the 50s, they came up with Takes a Lickin' and Keeps on Tickin'. And then in 97, they created Zoom Zoom. Remember Zoom Zoom? Oh, Zoom Zoom Zoom.

Yeah. No, what is that? Zoom Zoom, there was a Mazda. It was like somebody whispering, Zoom Zoom. I don't remember that. I feel like that was on tv a lot probably was yeah uh so anyway that's that's that's the the donor history i will get to history about the other shortly i was gonna say this is also just this era like people will

post like game boy print ads sometimes from the late 90s early 2000s and they're like very sexual it was just like this was what was going on in advertising at this time for whatever reason yeah it was just it was a weird unaggressive we tend to blame all of the late 90s aggression on the singular event of woodstock 99 but it was i feel like that was a part of a. An aggressive, poisonous stew of 50 things. And Six Flags Live, certainly a part of it. You can't put any blame on Six Flags Live because it wasn't released to encourage bad acts from people. It wasn't releasable also. No, no.

I wouldn't say so. In fact, I apologize for the degree of sound quality. You might hear some really blown out mics and some pretty unlistenable music. Let me show you this Game Boy ad. The new Game Boy Pocket, seriously distracting. And there's a woman tied to a bed frame. Tied to a bed, yeah. God.

And it's like, I'm not going to, I guess, have sex with this. I mean, she could be consenting to this situation, but she's waiting for you to. She may have put herself in that position, but yeah. I mean, it's unclear though. I'll say that. have sex with this i mean she could be consenting to this situation but she's waiting for you in that position but i mean it's unclear though i'll say that she has the look of like oh are we doing that like where are you but this is for a game boy yeah this is a yes primarily for children possibly being played by 11 year olds i mean obviously the the audience was aging up a little bit at that point but this is only what 10 years after the game boy came out but i like the idea of kind of a like sweaty pimply 11 year old being in that room and going not now right kirby is back in dreamland i have to help him go help kirby god um let me that's insane although uh i'm

less offended by this actual imagery and more offended by the font. Oh, yeah. Well, that font is lascivious. I don't know. That's less lascivious and more like it's trying to act like it's shaking around, like it's in motion despite being in print.

Seriously distracting. It's the kind of font I feel like you'd also see in a, like, join the Navy ad from this time. Well, those Navy ads were probably sexual, too. The Navy's extreme.

I had a Game Boy boy pocket it was just slightly better looking than game boy and it wasn't a massive it was just like it could fit in your pocket but it was a big it was big yeah well there was big pockets at that time so that was oh that was true yeah did you guys ever have any jinko jeans no no but i did have big big shorts kevin smith style shorts yeah that seems right yeah that was all i knew to do just wear giant clothes i think that's what people want well girls like this no for many years huge clothes that don't fit me now huge clothes bigger than i was then airwalk you know gotta get my airwalks or my vans you know sure let me um let me play this uh little just to give a flavor of it

aesthetically what you're seeing here it's everything's shaking around everything's shaking around it's all lowercase which is edgy capitalization is for newspapers those are boring snooze. But then you'll get a little vibe of one of the hosts, one of the first hosts who appears, who I believe is... Which there is... Are there 20 or are there a dozen? I lost count.

There are far too many. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think Corey we see here. What's up, girl? How you doing? I know you want to jam. Put the pig down. Let's go. let's start jamming

sorry also okay so stuffed pig okay yeah yeah uh uh this this is the kickoff of the show there's been a like an intro with just a lot of like it's just said like music right yeah and then uh in some brief appearances from pop stars to assure you celebrities won't be in this but then it just once you get into the meat of the show it's just a guy named cory with spiky hair just like hopping up to a woman like it's not full-on accosting but sorta a little bit he's like he's waving fists this could be dangerous if you're not paying attention does cory have like the derrick wibbly some 41 hair yeah because that's who i associate even plenty of people have that hair that's the guy i associate most with that i hadn't thought about yeah that is it's very some 41 it's like a some of the vibes of these guys of the 20

hosts of the show some of them are very new metal but then they're too like some of the new metal can be a little scary they're more these guys all seem like soft yes so i which is why i calibrate their vibe at crazy town i think they're very you're my butterfly sugar baby because that band was kind of between metal and boy band yeah um and uh and and like the because it's bright colors and jerseys, nobody's ever, no one on earth was ever scared of Crazy Town. No. No. New Metal at least has some aesthetic, I feel like.

Crazy Town, I feel like. Crazy Town had an aesthetic. Yeah, but it's a little more grown in a lab. Crazy Town? You're saying they're not authentic? Crazy Town. I don't know what even they would be authentic to. They're original.

Genre. Yeah, I mean, that's where, yeah, they are kind of their own genre, which is so rare to find. Do you have any more of Corey? Oh, yeah.

This was a clip that went around like Twitter and Instagram, I feel like. But this is worse. You ever seen this thing? No.

I know you might never seen it because it's brand new. This thing is off the hook that he means his dance he's like hopping around that's what he's talking about no he's talking about the backpack oh he is oh yeah okay it'll it comes up you ever heard of it so you can see the ad let's see the assets look at the assets of the g bag that's what i'm talking about do you like the g bag it's jamming huh yep this has got crazy stuff look at what how much is it two hundred dollars that's all one day paper out one day's

paper out you can pick this up one day's paper one day's paper right here you put your black so it's all about a backpack with speakers but then i don't i don't think anyone's turned around to show it until that point so it's just confusing and then when he says assets and then the shot

just is of her ass so I don't know that it's about assets or I just I think

that's what he's referring to it's certainly $200 backpack with a CD player and speakers the Osiris G bag he keeps saying one day paper route

what day's paper route now jason yeah you did not have a paper out even though it feels right that you did it no he would have done it he would have done a paper route to all the residents of a lazy river oh that's oh wow you give him enough to give him a plastic box to keep the newspapers dry he'll he'll throw them every which way as long as it's all people along a lazy river a paper route in movie i feel like it's like um a tunnel of love it exists in movies and television the actual paper route i just remember someone's sedan driving along of course and then just winging newspapers out of an open window because it was fucking freezing most of the year, much of the year.

You're saying the like paper boy video game doesn't exist. No, no. Riding a bike. Anymore. Throwing like tied up newspapers waving at your neighbors. No, I never encountered that. Yeah, because I remember a car just pulling up and coming out the window. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I was a kid paper whip but it doesn't feel like yeah you would but maybe if you went into one of these like either beach town or like uh lake michigan style thing there's a bunch of houses on the lake and you could just float around the big lake and whip the paper in the backyard a lazy red the lazy river is my preferred method of transit yeah sure your tip for future if you're trying to invite jason to a birthday party or something you might get the follow-up question is it along

a lazy river along a lazy river if it's on my way i'll try to float down but uh is two hundred dollars a day what you would get for delivering papers i don't think so high for the early that seems like it would be the total revenue, not the profit. No, is he talking about the net or the gross? We don't know, Corey. Come on. Be more clear. Usually, the paper person would come around on Saturday or Sunday and like, oh, hey, over

the next few months. You know? Yeah. So, it's a confusing segment for many reasons. Yeah. You're getting, a lot is being thrown at you vibes wise cory himself is just a lot there's a lot to handle i would say that all of the men in it all of these spiky haired frosted tip guys um okay here's the thing i don't know these people

and i can't slander these people and i can't speak to anything that they have done in their lives. And I'm not going to do that. I'm just going to say that the vibe is rapist ish. It is. I won't call them rapists. I will call them rapist. Okay. It is not saying anything.

Right. Corey, if you're listening, I'm just I don't know. It's a vibe. The whole special is very corny, but there's no sexuality. If that makes sense. No, there's no sexuality if that makes sense no there's no there's never any point of connection there's never a point where one person with lust in their eyes encounters someone else with lust in their eyes it is it is either it is annoyance all the way to hatred there's never electricity between two people even

though everybody's shouting about sex and butts for the whole special everyone's shouting about it in most cases when it creeps of people they they seem like they've agreed to be on camera they do not seem comfortable they do not seem prepped they seem confused there is one moment where i i feel like a woman is asking questions and people are just walking by and they're like what yeah just be things are just being shouted it's gonna so wait and if we haven't explained this it's all just like handheld footage in the general grounds of six flags parks it's a lot of magic mountain but you also go to over texas and maybe some other ones which was not a six marine world i believe was a park then six flags acquired it and eventually maybe they left or they ran into

the ground it's got a confusing history um it's a history they don't get into they don't seem to care you know what our we make a show all about uh rides and park ownerships and if that's what you thought you'd get out of Six Flags Live, frankly, you don't get any of that. Yeah. It seems to be all about either the latest trends or, you know, we're trying to put the moves on a member of the opposite sex. Right, and they don't even, if we were doing the show, we would be asking about the history of the Sid and Marty Croft Dirty Puppet Show that they did at Six Flags many, many decades ago. But there's no mention of it. Now, what is that? What kind of coaster is that?

Is that a Vekoma? Corey didn't even know if it was a Vekoma. Corey also, just in terms of vibe, he's also kind of like a living... If the, you know, in office space, the like, oh, oh. If that wasn't like a comedy character. Right.

If that was just a man who existed a real person opposed to a part being played by somebody uh um so that's that's that's the vibe and then but they aren't satisfied with cory because there's just more there's a hundred cores there's so many cores they keep introducing new corey new new rapishes it's like there's a cloning machine off camera and there's new corey emerges every minute he's ready go go go 90 seconds they just send him right out do a couple monologue jokes new corey and that's their life they have to film fast because yeah they're they're made but they will melt in the valencia sun and cease to exist in three hours so we just gotta whip them through stuff.

Every Corey you're seeing on screen has a three hour life expectancy. Yeah. You just can't keep it up. It's so exhausting to both be and look at Corey. Cause yeah, almost immediately there's another guy, David, I think.

And David is in, it's, it's a crazy how fast David's in like a sleeveless shirt with a gorilla on it and i think sometimes in a beanie with flames on it so you get david really fast so let me see david seems to well this is a point when you get when you see david you realize that this entity has not decided whether the shortening of the show is sfl or 6fl because they've and even if even when they decide the logos are different almost every time it's a little detailed but almost every time you see a little mic cover in this special it is a different

type of it's a different logo a different branding branding. And for an advertising company, I think they should have had eyes on that better. Yeah. Hey, our eyes were on a prize, baby. Am I right? That's it. That's the whole special in five seconds. There's no script supervisor. There's no continuity person.

I'm beginning to think there was no script supervisor doing during this it's more simply there's no one following any consistency but it just boils down to people going like yes well it's like if any if any boring nerd talks for more than four seconds in coherent english then that's has to be quickly interrupted by and then so and then a word that doesn't exist like yeah we know we scrazzling all right they're always cutting off the people answering their questions and then it cuts to indecipherable stock footage like there is very early on there's a shot of a woman kind of dancing, like feeling herself. And then she touched, full on rubs her crotch and then it cuts away. Yes.

There's just, it's almost as if they got footage where if the footage kept going, you would see that she was shooing a fly from her jeans, but they cut it at the frame where you're like, oh, is she going downstairs? Is she so excited by six flags live she's just gotta take care of business who isn't excited by six flags live she's so turned on by the whole enterprise that she's got to do above the jeans stuff to herself i they but the most perplexing one is not, I mean, I guess it's sexual if you're stretching a double entendre. There's a shot of a man with a, like, hedge clipper or bush trimmer, and he just, like, kind of trims a bush and then cuts away.

Really? Yeah, it's bizarre. Wow. Subliminal MTV style editing made me not even notice what you were talking about. They do. There is one piece of foot. Almost every scene transitions with the same shot of just like bare midriff woman kind of low pants and she's just like moving her hand.

I don't know if that's the one you're talking about, Jason. It's like she's in khakis. It was the very beginning of the first clip you showed. Yeah. They use this 30 times every single and then it'll say like los angeles or texas on top of that so you can keep track of where you are this doesn't help you keep track whatsoever no there is one shot uh when they pan to like the one guy nick who's in a bunch like it starts on a seal in like an enclosure and then it pans the image there's no mention of the seal and it is on him for so it's got to cut

to him like that's a good question is that okay i'm trying to assess the whole thing how much actual of the half hour how many seconds do you consider actual theme park content? Oh, man. Five minutes? I don't think even four. I was going to say that's- Other than unless you count the existence of roller coasters, there's slides in the frame. I think there's one guy who's talking about the concert that's coming up, and he's like,

we got Texas Rattler back here. He yells the name of a ride. But yeah, you're right we don't get any we don't talk about that seal no if anything the most the longest amount of time is spent uh on will afford you got a lot of will afford yeah will afford uh um i here we i'll get to will afford i'm just gonna go in order just because it's easier for my notes but uh okay so we're not long after that aj alcohol abuse joke you mentioned yeah not long yeah really soon after somebody brings up their segment sfl music news and grooves and uh that effort i think it's a woman talks about how the

rumors of whitney houston dying of a drug overdose are not true. She is alive and well, but we can't say the same about her career. It's just in the first five minutes, like the meanest state, like non sequiturs. It's the first two minutes. Oh, Jesus. they get two which does make me like i can remember feeling at that time that it all of culture was like if somebody had if somebody is is dealing with a drug or alcohol problem that means they're losers who fucked up and they should be laughed at was that not the culture of the yeah yeah yeah i like and when you're when you are getting a ton of that, I mean, it wasn't from this

again, I didn't see Six Flags live, but it's boy, is it, is it, uh, you know, does it reflective of the culture? Everyone was vicious to Lindsay Lohan and. Yeah. Almost rooting for the. Yeah. Yeah. Failure.

I, you know, I hate to make a point that a lot of documentaries have made recently, but, uh, I hate to tell you you guys sometimes if you revisit those jay leno monologues they are not especially kind to the young women of hollywood oh no what jay yeah doesn't sound like a jay i know nicest guy you brought those donuts to the strike striking writers guy who did that do he bought 12 horrible jokes about women's appearances for many many years i mean i feel like we need to turn one of Jay's lines against him. We need to turn to him and go, what were you thinking? His most famous line.

His famous line. Yeah. Was that a cute, cute gram? Oh, something I continue to not understand. Can you imagine anything of that nature today? Having, like, that, like, you know, well, I mean, I guess the Jimmy Fallon hair tussle was one moment that kind of changed the fortunes of the shows. Yeah. So, I guess.

But that's also, like, a, that's, he's with the, you know, possible leader of the free world who's, like, a horrible man. And, like, i don't understand how like leno failure bad one hugh grant joke and everything changes so strange yeah oh one uh not to pile on jimmy fallon but i just listened to an episode about the whole like bored apes like nft scandal and stuff yes and the jimmy fallon paris hilton segment is so funny that is something i think that deserves to be in the late night pantheon of like the things you know your don't blame conan's your things you've talked about over the week things that from talk shows that must be revisited at least once a year the entire the fallon paris hilton board segment is like that

is an unbelievable slice of the culture that I think much like Six Flags Live that historians I think that is more telling about the year that it was made in than a lot of other culture. Nobody from Paris to Jimmy to audience, no one knows what's happening and why.

No one knows why it's occurring. Any entity that caused that to happen is not in the room and has no control over it. So you've just got baffled. 100% baffled people. Even the people talking. I'll shout out a recent episode of the show Western Kabuki. And they had a reporter on to talk about.

They did the whole Bored Apes from the launch to the temporary blinding. What was the blinding uh every blinding oh uh at one of the board ape fests they um had uv lights at like one of the concerts and stuff however there's uv lights for entertainment and uv lights for sterile like cleaning sterilize it like stuff and they had they had the and there were numerous people who woke up in the middle of the night and were either in terrible pain or couldn't see and they had to go to the hospital the company eventually issued a statement so they were all fine oh my god but jimmy fallon was not there there probably. Jimmy Fallon was not at that one. Amy Schumer may have been. There's some very funny names.

Thankfully, he was busy jamming out with Billy Joel in Madison Square Garden that night, doing his funny Mick Jagger impression. That's insane. I didn't know there were Bored Ape Fests either. I would say that a relatively coherent host is Nick, who otherwise goes by NIC, as you quoted at the beginning. He is all right because he is the only person who speaks in a black manner who is black. That's very good. Makes it all a little bit more palatable. He also, I feel like, is full of fun facts as he talks in front of Goliath.

Where he mentioned, like, all right, all this summer, we got Blue Cantrell. We got Del the Funky Homo Sapien. In case you didn't know, Ice Cube's cousin. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. I did not know that. I thought that was interesting. And then we got hits coming up from, he seems to be introducing songs that are not played.

We got Nika Costa. That's Frank Sinatra's goddaughter. Also, I forgot about, I did know that. You did know that? Well, you did. I didn't know that. Nika Costa was Frank Sinatra. And he makes a weird joke about us.

So you might want to cop that album because if you don't, you're going to end up with a horse head in your bed. Kind of mixing metaphors, but okay. It's all over the place. He also kind of introduces like a backup singer dancer who's going out on their own. But then at that moment,

a woman comes in a frame and like starts holding him. And that is never acknowledged. It is not the person he's mentioning, I don't think. Yeah, yeah. So I think not long after that we start getting into you you kind of start to understand oh they're probably doing the calculation that like summer music festivals and concerts happen at six flags so if we can incorporate that stuff into the show and we get interviews backstage with you know so and so uh uh you know

mandy moore you get like well that's pretty big there's somebody with a big career to this day um uh you get there i think that's a there's a gentleman named nader we have a new guy named nader a new cory whose name is nader and he talks to a bunch of people. Willa Ford is his interview. You get a little bit of concert footage of Willa Ford. He talks to her before Welcome by the Bus and then after the concert. There's Mandy Moore by the bus. Oh, there's Mandy Moore by the bus. I thought it was extra Willa Ford.

You get a lot of Willa Ford concert footage? Yes. Okay, that's what i'm thinking uh um they there's some discussion about why will afford was called gangsta barbie in a certain age of her life uh uh you see that she has a tattoo of the notes of amazing grace on her arm as you referred to um and he asks why and she goes, I favorite him. They do talk about God for a second. Very serious. Yeah, you know, we're having fun here, but ultimately we got to give it up to the man upstairs.

The big one. Hey, he created all these butts. What are we going to do? We got to look at his creations. We got to pay tribute to his bountiful creations by getting our hands up on them. Notorious G.O.D., Big Ups Baby. Corey is created by God. All of them.

Every strand of my spiked hair is created by the Lord above. He created the inventor of the blonde hair dye. Yeah, he didn't make my hair blonde, but he did create blonde hair dye and the man who invented it. So I ain't playing God, and I ain't trying to play with you God I love you forever baby

God created the creator of Dapper Dan and Dippity Doo which I put in both my hair it might have been from Coen Brothers movies and not real who knows oh well sounds real

could be real Willa Ford had a ongoing Six Flags relationship is what i figured out that if you were i think possibly in chicago i think uh i think kevin referred to this that uh there was a type of six flags ad that was intercut with a shot at six flags music video for her song i want to be bad i don't know if this works save ten dollars with discount coupons from burger king

st louis st louis i like at the beginning in the music video she pulls off a modest dress to reveal Discount coupons from Burger King. St. Louis. St. Louis. I like at the beginning in the music video, she pulls off a modest dress to reveal a different modest dress. Yeah, it's not terribly. Yeah, it's a little shorter. They don't show you a lot, though. It's still a little too. And like, yeah, she has enough time to sing.

I want to be bad. And then the cut immediately is to new scooby-doo ghost blasters being bad on a scooby-doo dark ride is that the implication of that ad it's a lot of guests enjoying uh rides yeah reasonable fashion i don't think anyone's being bad no one's bad yeah if i don't know i think probably there were a lot of people being bad at Six Flags St. Louis. Yeah, but not in that commercial. Not inspired by Willa Ford's statement. Was that Willa Ford song popular? I know it.

It was around. Did it chart? Was it like a number one for weeks and I don't know that? Or was it, it felt like it was so in the background of the time. It felt like a, we got to pretend this is working, and there's like a pipeline to create new Britneys, but I don't know that it actually, here's my guess. I think it's one of those, the way we say like, wow, nobody watched this show. It was only number 40, but 8 million people.

I bet like it charted low, but charting low then was like enough money for it to live forever. I have here, I have the, it's, it charted as a number 22 on the U S charts. It was a U S charts. Number four. I don't know. But I bet the sales 11 were really good.

And she is now one of the biggest donors to the democratic party. She has so much money. That's not, that's a joke. That's a joke. No, like we were saying, like she can live for like yeah charting at number 22 it's like well you're you're set for life as are the next two generations she played anna nicole smith and the anna nicole smith story in 2007 wow okay what was this what was the story there was a lot of story Left to go After 2007 Yeah really

Geez Oh Bobby Trendy Is himself Hmm Nice Bobby Oh they got Trendy She Willa Forrest's uncle

The Toast to Men From 2003 That I've never heard I'll toast to that People call a podcast The Toast to Men You know You know what I'm saying like you got three or four white guys in a row that's a point you called him like a murder crows you called a podcast

remember that joke from six or seven years ago that was not annoying the second time you heard it um there's something there's something strange that comes into effect around the concert zone of this and it's not the fact that little romeo does not appear um travel delays uh yeah yeah yeah we're not sure if little romeo is gonna make it and then later they admit that he does not make it um but around okay there's there's already a misfeeling about this special but at the concert you get a date stamp of when the concert is taking place it is september 28th 2001 now this is very i don't know jason would you like to do the honors does that remind you of anything honestly i didn't know that big events like that were back and grooving in texas yeah big events like a texas six flags thing when did wrestling

come back wrestling came back like a week later okay a week later yeah vince mcmahon was wrestling and the onion were the first ones back yeah and six flags live yeah they were they were cultural leaders showed us the way yeah yeah you know mayor giuliani said you know we were like are we even still gonna do it? Like, man, this could be the end for, this could be the last SFL we ever did. But then Giuliani's like, we got to go back to normal sizzle. So I'm like, all right, Corey, Corey's back up in it, y'all. Just like that ass.

Woo. Woo. Everyone is making bad stitch impression, they had stitch noise for good stitch impressions yeah yeah what do you mean yeah better yeah is the king of good stitch impressions um but okay so then we knew while watching the rest of this that there was the shadow of night 11 but it wasn't until then later later in the special nic is doing a little presentation in front of some flags and it was aaron who said oh my god the flags are at half mast oh we are looking at half mast flags that is how close to that is how much right after 9-11 this was they had to talk about like

maybe some of it was in the can they do talk about summer a lot so maybe some was in the can but i think this was awkwardly like a good amount was left probably they lost cory remember we only got cory for two days uh because he's gonna go be one of the extra guys in a police lineup that's his day job central casting is paying that's paying more than yeah yeah we're not we're lucky we're getting he's like doing us a real favor that's lucrative uh but but nate where we got nader and the concert's coming up so we're gonna close it out then and like and oh my god it's the kind of if anyone wanted a documentary about this, and they're like, yeah, I remember them. You know, we were getting, we were on the phone.

I remember it was a normal morning. We were on the phone with Lil Romeo's people. And yeah, it should be fine. I don't anticipate any big plane delays. I think plane travel is going to be fine for the foreseeable future. And then somebody said, turn on the TV. And boy, Nader shed a tear that day let me tell you there there is not a verbal acknowledgement of like in the country was

very invited but we're all together now right and go like there's there's no verbal acknowledgement of that or the troops or any of that but But yeah, the half-mast flags. No, it's like right now, we're all united under one flag and also six flags. Tweetybird, if only the tattoos were crying. If only Tweetybird was shedding his single tear. Boy, you know what? I got to say, the least magic mountain on Earth has got to be that one where Osama's got his cave, y'all.

Ain't no magic in that mountain. We're going to make sure there ain't no magic in that mountain soon enough. Yeah, baby. Shout out George W. Bizzle. There's no way this wasn't, like that joke wasn't in there and they cut it. There's no way this wasn't, like that joke wasn't in there and they cut it. There's no way. Maybe the cutty nature of it was less them aiming for hyperactive MTV editing and more cutting every Islamophobic statement. Every warmongering statement made by Nader and Corey. They do have a political joke though at the end.

What's a political joke though at the end and i can't remember word for word but it's like something about like a lying snake or something and then he holds up a picture of bill clinton oh yeah what is that that's really confusing it's like that was on a card they cut out the picture and pasted it on a card and someone had to bring it to six flags so that he could hold it up for two seconds i'm not i'm not offended by that i'm just saying that's the only political joke in there so i feel like maybe there was an agenda by the makers of this well and it was a way you know we were thumbing our noses at the last guy yeah and you know in such a pro bush era when his approval rating was never higher but there's no joke about like the florida supreme

court handing the election or the supreme court handing the election to george w bush or anything there was no there was no joke about hanging chad just a guy named chad who's hanging out here at the pool by hurricane harbor there's no and nader look nader's in there there's no joke about nader giving the election to Bush either no no you know no that's a perfect opportunity

for a joke this is one Nader's not messing anything up except maybe the sheets baby with P and Pooh Nader's mad and conning y'all

they let they let Nader go because he was like yeah George Bush is leading the nation but he was also president when the attacks happens so think about that no no you do not say that Nader go because he was like, yeah, George Bush is leading the nation, but he was also president when the attacks happened. So think about that.

No, no, you do not say that, Nader. You do not say that. I know, generously Clark should. He tried to brief him, but he wouldn't listen. We are pulling you from the LFO interview. You have lost the right. Oh, Rich from LFO. That's a great interview where Rich is like you know it's two

things you know i want as many people as possible here in music but also i make i want to eat i make my living on record yeah he gives both sides it's a pretty yeah he does reason well the calculation everybody has to make you know giving away their their media for free he really it's really prescient for what the next several decades of media was going to be. I don't know when the release of these episodes, but this is the second Rich Cronin mentioned in the film. Yeah, it was maybe a little while ago now, but there was a Rich Cronin. Yes, because I recommend his Howard Stern clip talking about Lou Pearlman.

He's a truth teller, basically. Yes. I mean, I like this guy. He's got a vibe. Yeah, I like it. Right. He's a truth teller, basically. Yes. I mean, there's a... I like this guy. He's got a vibe. Yeah, I like it. Yes. Rest in peace, Rich.

But the reason it came up was because you thought one of the members of LMFAO died. Well, yes, I did. I did think that. I thought you were thinking of LFO, which two members have passed away, including Rich.

I was not, but that would have been a little more... Did we ever figure out who you thought you were thinking of no okay i knew they broke up and i thought they had broken up and also one of them had died but that is not the case well and i thought destro was a dc villain and it's a gi joe villain so we're all making mistakes left and right on these shows hey this heat wave that's rocking the country yeah oh it's not like the heat wave

when shrek and moulin rouge were in theaters at the same time wow was there a heat wave no they were just lighting up the box office oh okay and sexy late where we get we got fiona after the transformation i think now we move to a segment called the stink on ink and uh this is just kind of it's kind of an inane conversation about tattoos and what what color ink you think would come off the uh it would be the hardest to take off everybody guesses red screen um i don't know what that means or who cares but like green was the hardest green was the hardest yeah that was it was 20 times or something you'd have to yeah it takes 20 times through the whatever the process um but let's cut to the chase where this goes is anybody got a tattoo that they want to show off and oh boy the

luck of the six flags live people that it is somebody wanting to show a butt on a butt a tattoo on their butt and uh the tattoo that is revealed is tigger and she really has to unbutton and pull her pants down a little to show this there's a process she goes pretty far yeah um not only tigger but tigger looking kind of upset kind of aghast yeah kind of open mouth it's like oh oh no it's actually tigger making the face that anyone would make when seeing a tigger tattoo on a butt it is a lot of a cheek the next one the woman just kind of lowers her pants a little and it's a tweety bird which is you a little more six flags on brand it is yeah and i guess and i know that there's tweety tattoos it's still a little i'm like of this group there is both a tigger and a tweety and the tigger is so inexplicable why would you want not

just a tigger but an upset looking tigger yeah it actually kind of looks like a tigger that is about to get a load of something oh i mean i didn't i didn't think of that but now that you say it content warning come come come come come I didn't think of that, but now that you say it. Content warning. Come, come, come, come, come. What was that? Was that zoom, zoom, zoom? No, that was me doing the bouncy, bouncy, bouncy. Oh, okay. Come, come, come, come, come.

I should have done the full line. You should have been a writer for Six Flags Live. Yeah, we flipping the Winnie the Pooh songs. We're making them dirty. We're doing it all. I can get you a job on this new show I'm working on with this guy, Jason, down at Knott's Berry Farm. Really? Is it a, it's kind of a filthy talk show?

That's the word on town. Well, that's what I'm going to convince him to do. Does the host agree? Yeah, he does. Well, the host is unconscious and temporarily not alive for a few minutes. And then he gets back in the wave pool. All right. I have a pitch for this show.

You make the host go unconscious again. While he's unconscious, give him a Tigger tattoo on his butt. This is extreme. I like that. Yeah. That's good. I feel like for brand propriety, it should probably be Whittles. You want a statue of Whittles?

We're at the Knots. We're at the Knots. We're Knots. Okay, fine. I got Whittles on my seat. Whoa. Do you know that during, speaking of characters getting messy, do we know that during the Boysenberry Festival that you,

the Whittles, the prospector with a big white beard you can meet, just during Boysenberry festival his beer is full of boysenberry splashes i think i've seen a picture of him with boysenberry smears it was pretty fun to yeah it's hard to call that suggestive because it is purple no yeah what would it be yeah i don't um i mean i could make a little comment Barney the dinosaur's cum I don't know What am I I could Barney the dinosaur's purple cum

Yeah I wasn't happy saying it Now I know you like doing a Barney impression I do yeah Can I open the floor to what Barney might say While blowing a load of his purple cum He could just say that Oh my purple cum

That's what he would say oh i did it again i love you you love cum that's by virtue of talking about this this is one of the filthier episodes of the show i can't oh i don't want to say that oh oh my macaroni painting i'm using it for my my art you know what's funny is that for a show that is kind of explicit or thinks it is i think there's so many bleeps and oh yeah i think they even bleep the word sex. Yeah. It's this perfectly, like, not even PG-30. This is like, you know, this is PG-6. It's like exactly like the combo of like,

six flags will kill you. $10 off with Burger King. It's exactly that level of edginess that is immediately softened. Uh-huh. Yeah, no, they can't. I mean, they were hoping that it would get like a 11 year old audience yeah so this is the closest they can get up to the line that's the time well let me okay since you said an 11 year old audience yeah there's a part another

cory shows up this one is ryan ryan is coming at you from hurricane arbor and like you know we're you know so now it's like he's surrounded by girls in bikinis and his shirt is off so you know we're getting we're doing some sexy talk let's all right let's get real about it who's sexier britney or christina but the audience the girls are all clearly like 15 these are not yeah yeah and that's not the case in all of the segments necessarily i think there's i think completely there's a lot of uh women over 18 in this but not this part and it doesn't get that bad except then it then it becomes like they're they're talking about like what's the what's our what's the coolest thing this summer accessory short shorts and then somebody brings up halter tops and he

says yeah all right well we ain't wearing halter tops right because all i see around here is my ladies in bikinis yeah baby and he's pointing to the women on either side of him yeah you know they're for sure they're like 15 but and i don't i'm not gonna throw this at ryan it's not his fault he didn't turn around to see but when he said yes okay i saw it i had to keep rewinding it because i'm like well hold on now oh he like when he does that all my ladies the direction that he points is to a girl who has wandered up right behind him during the discussion he doesn't know that she's there but for sure this girl is like 12 yeah there is a full-ass child like has one it seemed like her and her friend were just using the path to get by yeah and just kind of wandering

in afraid what's happening it's's a very unfortunate point from Ryan. And they didn't do a second take. No, no time. And they didn't cut before that. Right. There's not like a good, like, oh, wow, that was such a good segment

that what the discussion they got into about who was hotter was so good, we can't do a second take. Could have easily redone that. The button is the halter tops thing. Maybe somewhere in this organization though with some idiot like can we do it with computers can we get the 11 year old out

with computers I watched a thing about the new Star Wars they apparently did computers on it can we do that well it also the content of what they're talking about a little before that the girl's like i don't know christina has that big hair and it just doesn't seem like what everyone else has and

they appear to be talking about christina and galera in the lady marmalade music video like it's specific to that i think it's specifically i don't believe she was full on in the Dirty era yet. No. Dirty was like 2003? A little later. 2002. 2002? Maybe two. Okay. So I don't quite... They didn't seem...

Yeah, they mentioned the whole talk. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think so. So her new look as dictated by specifically Lady Marmalade. It's all like half remembered. Everything everyone is talking about. Unless they're holding the literal magazine it came from.

And even then, who knows if they looked at it. Yeah, yeah, that too. A lot of like, okay, I imagine a show with only one take of everything and where all of the content is taken from magazines. We're just going to read lists that were already thought up by a magazine writer. And then the very end is a read lists that were already thought up by a magazine writer. And then the very end is a lot of like talking about technology. It seems like they realized, oh, shit, we forgot to talk about the phone and the little camera.

Well, I think. Yeah, I think they. Yeah. Well, they front loaded the sexier stuff and then they get into the tech tie ins. My guess is that they didn't have any actual tech tie ins and they were just demonstrating like this is the kind of spot where we could do a promotion for motorola i bet they hadn't secured that uh any sponsors and i secured the motorola sponsorship for this underage fest underage creep fest this could be you instead of just a finger he could be holding up a phone while gesturing toward a 12-year-old girl. There's somebody named Amber who has a very pink vibe. And at some point she wears like a, there's just a full rose that's bigger than her neck on her neck.

She seems like it'd be irritating in a hot theme park environment. She does a talk about like the britney with the big snake from the vmas and that's what i remember that at the time it was like what's pop culture well it's all about britney and the big snake and then two days later 9-11 happened and wow can you just a week ago all we were thinking about was britney and the big snake and now we're confronted by the bigger snake of terrorism that may swallow us all and this is like this is this art this is the people go like you know how can we care about the big snake anymore well they can't they have to right they can't talk about yes they can't

they can't have somebody broadcasting live from six flags afghanistan how's everything out there they are on the ground reporter they can't they had to cut that segment where they asked man on the street like see any good movies lately what have you seen the movies and everyone just goes hardball hardball hardball like the inexplicable blockbuster Hardball. Do you remember that Keanu Reeves coached the Little League team? That was like, oh, America wants a feel-good movie after these tragic events. After comedy died, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, comedy died.

I remember that. Are you going to do a two-part, like a double-header tonight? Domino and Hardball? Oh, yeah. They're all so good oh there's a part where there's some shade thrown at movies of the era um there's a like uh at some point they're talking about a well there's the segment blockbuster or bust in which there's uh some uh direct pre derisive conversation about the now classic uh is it called on the line yeah the movie with some of

in sync yes i believe i have now i believe i have seen all of on the line um is there a kid in the hall oh yes dave foley dave foley and jerry stiller in that film um but uh what was the oh but then there's some somebody's talking about scary movies. And he says, all right, so we got some scary movies coming out. Get your goosebumps ready. Get your goofers, just that. Get your goosebumps ready. All right. You ready, fellas?

You're going to be popping out tonight. You know, the kind you didn't really use on Jeepers Creepers. What was the problem with Jeepers Creepers? Yeah, was that not scary? It's not scary enough. Not for you, Corey, whose name I didn't even write down. And then he talks up Joyride. anyone know what joyride i remember joyride yeah it's about like teens go joyriding and then they get chased by like a killer i think okay it was a horror movie though it was a horror movie yeah that's a that's a pa Walker before his more famous car oriented franchise

yeah 2001 oh J.J. Abrams wrote it what? yeah yeah I knew there was a factoid about that Paul Walker and J.J. Abrams Steve Zahn star

oh I love Zahn Steve Zahn and Paul Walker? this is a good game maybe this is a quite is this good? and just the voice of ted levine wow as as a as a villain says somebody named rusty nail wow that's the scariest voice there is there's joyride 2 and joyride 3 like straight to dvd it looks like yeah i think there's some jeepers jeepersepers sequels as well. Wow. This is a bad robot. It's part of the bad robot universe.

Wow. This requires attention. JJ, come back to the Joyride. This all has been, he's just been building momentum to be able to get Joyride 4 off the ground. So, what did I miss there? There's a part where it just cuts to somebody who just says, with a bleep, crotchless panties have been taken off the shelves in Stockholm.

And then it keeps going. Yeah, I had to replay that because I didn't know what he was talking about. Yeah, that made no sense. I don't know. Completely incoherent. Crotchless panties, crotchless boob have been taken off the shelves in Stockholm. Okay, that doesn't work. There's another also with misunderstanding.

Then it goes to Corey. He says, what's up, Corey here. Six Flags Marine, what? that doesn't work uh there's another also with misunderstanding then it goes to cory he says what's up cory here six flags marine work you know if you say it like that anything's cool uh in this one they bleep sex they all everybody talks about where they like to get freaky and then somebody says uh like where's the place you've where's the craziest place you've gotten freaky uh probably and there's roller coasters going by everywhere so this illustrates why that's a bad idea uh it's probably in the casino in encino no in the casino on the craps table what how what are you talking this guy's crazy likes dice up his butt anyway we're gonna take it over to nader in texas bye um uh there's's also another part where clearly some of the girls are younger.

And this time it is Amber. It's a woman doing it. But she just does a big screed about what women want on the first date. First of all, you pay. Second, no farting. It's probably the best part of the whole thing, honestly. Third, don't just think about fucking her you got a romance sir and then that's where you're like these girls these are young they're very young fourth don't talk about your ex the bitch don't matter anymore all right let's go talk to these girls and then approach a nervous 14 year old

yeah that's pretty much what you said i'd say treat me like a person don't check your outfit open the doors i'm not allowed to say some of the words that you said but if my mom sees me saying them on this wherever this is i'll be grounded for months but uh the sentiment about the flatulence i would also agree with we all got 16 ounce bottles of hoke to do this there's like we all had to share but you know technically it's up to us how to divvy it up there i've often like thinking back to your childhood like you know you had friends and people in this room there were shows you couldn't watch people i knew i didn't watch the simpsons and as i grow i grow up i was like ah that's not going to be me. I'm never going to do that.

But if my daughter was watching Six Flags Live, I will turn this off right now. You are not to watch this filthy show. And then she's going to be upset. I'm like, I guess there are things. I'd be like, you have to turn this off. The vibe of this is an evil vibe. I don't care for this. And then she'll fight with me so i guess

there is something i guess i would draw the line somewhere yeah well you're look you've got a journey ahead of you of finding out how much of your mom is in you oh i know and i know there's already a lot there's a lot there already just when you find yourself yelling about paper sheets well when i'm discussing uh uh that this bread is technically expired because it says it on the package and lindsey's like well no we it's a day older it's fine and i go yes but we must listen to the date on the packages so i'm with lindsey on that one yeah i've gotten better about it by the way too okay over these years i've gotten better at throwing stuff out you know oh because you're as long as it's in the calendar year you'll still eat

it because jason's like i will save one ice cream scoop in the freezer i don't mind the ice crystals are my friends you and uh you and uh albert brooks's mother in the movie mother no not glenn close debbie reynolds debbie reynolds okay is that no i haven't seen that full film but is that maybe a comp for the mike and jason relationship that jason's my mother yes i think that's probably close i could see that being absolutely right well debbie reynolds loves the old times she was a song and dance lady. She sure was. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the particularly youthful actor,

nineties, Albert Brooks. It's just like, I think he knows exactly what he was saying. Well, maybe there's a suggestion that Mike has some components that are not as youthful as he advertised. Well,

I don't, I don't wait. I was going to say, I don't disagree with that, but I don't want to say that. I was upset saying it, even if I think it's true. There is, I mean, there's a don't disagree with that, but I don't want to say that. I was upset saying it, even if I think it's true. There is, I mean, there's a lot of taste.

Do you still have taffy frozen in your fridge or freezer? Yeah, there's taffy floating around. Is it frozen? In the freezer? I don't know where it is. I saw the box the other day. Keeping it safe in the toilet. There's a decorative box floating around. I saw the box the other day. Keeping it safe in the toilet. But he did tell the tank.

There's a decorative box floating around. But you did tell us how to make sure the taffy is fresh. And then you roll it between your hands. As long as you rub your taffy every couple months, you keep it fresh. No, no. When you want to eat it, you heat it up by rubbing it between your hands. No, it's not a maintenance issue. No, it's just once you only have to do it.

I thought you had to do it every year. No. Well, this also clearly needs to be mentioned every once in a while because mike forgot what the tip was i guess so jason just make sure once every at least four months you say the taffy fact on the show to rub your taffy before eating it you don't need to do it periodically yeah so remember that let's hear let me take this right into let's keep this on the jason food brand because this knocked me out when i was like deep into the into the special i think i was i think i was having a little light cocktail and this is this will flip me out of my chair that we were

even considering talking about this on the show and then we get to a guy that it ends up being promotion for some weird meat product that's godzilla oriented but don't even mention me in the same breath that this is probably the most tasteless thing well the whole thing walked right into it i guess yeah like and you'll see where i'm going with this uh here i'll do it out of order i'll make the second the third because it has to be it has to be the topper uh it starts with one of the one of the coreys saying hey is your vienna sausage become limp has your spam lost its wham has your scrapple become crapple yeah wow there's a scrapple joke in this thing that's wild

wow is is six flags live and our show the only media post 2000 with jokes about scrapple joke in this thing. That's wild. Wow. Is Six Flags Live and our show the only media post-2000 with jokes about Scrapple? Hmm. Good question. I don't know about that.

I think it's still still think it's pretty popular back east. Where do you what do you suppose I might hear a joke about Scrapple? Oh, God.

The diner the line cooks at the diner. You're saying it's talking about television yeah like yeah or podcast media jokes these are street jokes which is really funny you said that because in my mind i was about to make a joke that you were about to say street jokes more of a street joke scrapple that's what yeah it's a street meet and it gets street jokes yeah you're in the old neighborhood you know i could I could see some of the East Coast late night shows making a Scrapple joke.

You mean the ones in New York? Yeah. The ones that air everywhere? I was like, do you mean a Pennsylvania late night show? Well, there, oh, I have no idea what that is. A Philly live? You might need to move back and host one of those. Quit this job.

Two premises. It's Philly and a lazy river you can only do it during the summer those bones in Pittsburgh the yinzers are outing again

how do you feel with your beloved meat the food most associated with you being involved in a body joke it doesn't

it doesn't quite make sense and what they where it gets to doesn't make a lot of sense why doesn't it doesn't quite make sense and what they where it gets to doesn't make a lot of sense why doesn't it make sense well what does it have to do with like this novelty godzilla meat toy well he's talking about well i mean he's talking about boners but like but it's but actually i guess it becomes about the some weird godzilla meat so actually the double entendre it's not even about the double entendre it's like you, the double entendre, it's not even about the double entendre.

It's like you're trying to make you think. It's actually very clever writing if you think about it. You think you're talking about my sausage or my spam? No, we're talking about literal meat. Right. So it is that, you know,

you're so sick of, I think where Jason's having a hard time relating to it is the idea that literal scrapple could become crapple. No scrapple is crapple jason well no i mean you you don't want to undercook it it'll be too soft well i guess that's grapple if you you want that crispy you want it soft in the middle and crispy on the outside

what was the last time you had it not a while okay well that's sad we gotta fix that yeah um let's talk about the other side of it though scrapple being involved in a double entendre you have mixed feelings about that i i'm okay with that but it doesn't really pay off no not particularly no um i guess third question because you are mr sex positivity acknowledge you as a sexual being yeah i talk about sex on the show has your scrapple become grapple gosh i hope not oh the rest of my body is out to lunch but that still seems to be working scrapple holds on is a fighting chance yeah walking a block it sucks but uh the rest of the stuff i mean it's fine this is the bawdiest episode of all time. Sure.

This is our Six Flags Live episode. I think Scrapple is confusing, too, because as you Google image it, it's mainly served in loaves and squares. Yeah. So it doesn't... A sausage, sure. But I don't think anybody's got a big, like a boxy brick-sized penis. I think some people do.

Maybe. You think with angles? Those are also like, the loaves are like cut into slices so you can pan fry it or fry it on a grill. Ouch. I think every,

I think there are unique penises out there that you can't even imagine. You can't even visualize. I believe. Well, we got to pose this to the ladies in the audience. Yo, does your, does your boy got dick corners? Can't even visualize. I believe. Well, all right. We got to pose this to the ladies in the audience. Yo. Does your boy got dick corners?

Let us know in the comments. When you have sex, is that like putting a square peg in a round hole? Some people like the bird corners. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then there's a promo for the Motorola i85. Oh, but where the Godzilla meat package goes, it goes to a bad dubbing joke.

It's like, oh my God, I can't believe they're doing this. You can't. I was going to say, you can't? I guess it's this same time period of, what was that redubbed movie called like the kung fu enter the fist oh yes i've watched all of i have watched all of kung pao enter the fist kung pao yeah i watched it too there's some part oh wait you were you guys all there for my screening of kung pao oh yeah i think so i don't know i don't remember maybe not that memorable no i saw it yeah i watch it uh um i feel like there were two funny parts and the rest fell off it was not big time very

good no i wouldn't say no uh so the murderola using the walkie talkie feature i i knew a couple people who had that and they were very annoying about it. The phone is also a walkie-talkie? I feel like any time there were people around, they were really making sure to use the walkie-talkie. Didn't you have family walkie-talkies? Yeah, family walkie-talkies. I think there's a New York Times piece about that. The short-lived window between the full cell phones just becoming totally ubiquitous. And they try to pass off walkie talkies as like

keep in touch if your family splits up on vacation did you have did you use the walkie talkie at a disney park well that's the one where yeah i ended up on a security channel oh right okay that's what i okay that's why i thought that then, I guess. I was on a boat. I was on the boat from the boardwalk. But no, are these phones walkie or no? I don't think, I don't think Jason's walkie talkies could have given you real time sports scores. No, it could have gotten the sports scores. Via web.

That's where like, you know, yeah, you could watch ESPN and get your scores the day that they happen or you could watch Corey and Ryan uh hold up their Motorola i85 and say we on the web it's Sunday so we're checking out the scores yo padres are and then and then not being able to show them to you and this presumably was months ago uh-huh this is the strange the whole show is the strangest pitch. I don't know how. I know it's a pilot. Yeah, but I don't know in what.

Are they going to. If it's going to be. If there's going to be up to the minute sports scores, they have to make one of these every day. I was going to say, I think it's going to be a daily show like a TRL. There were graphics. I mean, I would assume that's what they're looking for. That air on TV or in lines. It said back tomorrow at 7 p.m.

I don't know what that meant. Where? It was just at the end of the video. Oh, no, I know that. But yeah, where is it back tomorrow? That's the big question. Right. The full throttle lounge does seem like the only appropriate place to play this.

I also just don't believe that a lot of, think that today a lot of the six flags tvs run off of vhs and unless they're burning off oh yeah yeah tapes daily running them from the post house should we get it to valencia should we shoot a six flags live during fright fests opening night oh that's a good idea that'd be a good way to cover it. Yeah, yeah. Okay. The opening night of Fright Fest is the same as Scary Farm this year. We'll go to both. I'm just saying. I like going to both. In the same night, we'll go to both.

Oh, yeah. Oh, that'd be a time. Yeah, yeah. Or we have to send two teams. Oh, wow. Oh, we split into two on that night. Yeah, yeah. All right.

Back to you over at Fright Fest. Like, yeah, you know, hey, this girl's got me feeling like Frankenstein because I'm We could split into two On that night Yeah yeah Alright back to you Over at Fright Fest Like Yeah You know Hey this girl's got me Feeling like Frankenstein Cause I'm getting stiff Fright Fest

Alright For Fright Fest Live For Double FL Yo we're here In the sewer of souls We just walked by A big pile of shit That's newer That noise Did you know that Butts aren't just for sex There's this other stuff Yo, we're here in the sewer of souls. We just walked by a big pile of shit.

That's newer, that noise. Did you know that butts aren't just for sex? There's this other stuff that comes out of them. Fun fact, it's called poo and they got a lot of it here. There's a new movie coming out. It's called Harold and Purple Crown. Blockbuster bomb, what do you think? That delivery was as good as some of those people.

Yeah, that was perfectly, yeah, perfectly halfway to sleep. Hey, there's a new movie coming out. They feature Mavali. You might call yourself

Fall Guy, but this Fall Guy stars Ron Gosling. These are pretty good promos. We're going to send you to Fight Fest this year. No, no. You have anything to say?

What does Corey share and have to say about Twisters? Whoa. Hey, did you get all spun around and your friend did too? Yeah, I guess you're a couple of Twisters, but there's Twisters starring Glenn Powell in theaters now. You're a couple of Twisters. These guys spin you around so fast, you're going to end up getting called Twisters.

But for now, the original twisters are twisters. Oh, sorry, Bill Paxton. Here he is now, Glenn Powell. Bill Paxton is not back. He's dead. Anyway, I'm getting to the end of the list. I mean, I could shout out, you know, they talk about the hardness of tennis balls. They're hard, harder, and morning wood.

At the very end, they make a woman do a hot dog eating contest and at that point you're like no she doesn't know the context that she is being presented in do now if you knew what the rest of this show was you would not try to put four wieners in your mouth don't do this to her show her the rest of the pilot before you put her in this position. The pilot should have ended with like a raid happening. Like a police SWAT team coming in and arresting every Corrie. We are liberating all of these women from the Corries. Whoa, it's a SWAT team who liberated Elian Gonzalez and they're here. Elian Gonzalez was stuck in Miami for a while. Miami's home to some of the hottest parties of the summer uh anyway i mean this is unless you have any to throw out

that's about all the highlights you've hit i think yeah yeah mainly i feel like we have just described a culture of of uh spiky haired creeps and uh and and gratuitous uh butt shots and uh and it's just there's just this there's this grime to this thing everything uh uh now you now you know how true it was that kevin said it's like the video from the ring um it is like halfway between like mtv spring break trl and girls gone wild yeah it is like the yeah it's going well without any flashing right yeah but it's that level of like douchebag with microphone out here was here i'm talking really fast i'm putting a microphone in your face you can't question what's happening yeah and it's yeah and you do feel like again i don't think

i could have articulated it back when i was that age watching it, but like, I would be like a friend with a Girls Gone Wild tape and I, you had, and there's just a feeling, a bad feeling watching that. That's not, that was not that exciting at the time. I mean, on some level, I'm sure it was like, oh, cool. Even though it's probably like hiding my eyes, but it was still a bad vibe. I like that you had weird girls gone wild viewings i don't know you had to pretend to be chill with it i don't remember i i know i saw it i don't remember where i don't remember who i guess i'm trying to block it out i saw it without the words

covering up the boobs it was not uh a fun vibe the seediest this manages to be incredibly seedy while not ever actually revealing anything while not really uh you know putting uh while bleeping a lot of words that aaron was using it as shorthand for like how far we've come like there was something that was we were talking about something that involved like uh lg lgbtq progress or something there was something that that felt like wow and in 2024 this is possible and she said and that's that's crazy because just a few decades ago it was six flags live it's like a demarcation of what it's a shorthand for that's this this is where it was. So any progress now? And she's right.

That is that there is just this like palpable evil to this piece, I think. Yeah. That reflected the time and I guess that's what they had to do. But I started questioning, is there a further explanation of the palpable evil of Six Flags Live. And the YouTube description on Retro Six Flags just attributes it to the ad company that made it that I mentioned earlier, Ackerman McQueen. So Ackerman McQueen is an Oklahoma-based company. Also in Oklahoma was a group called Premier Parks. And they were working together in the early 90s.

Premier Parks ended up buying Six Flags mid-90s, I forget when, were working together in the early 90s premier parks ended up buying six flags around uh mid 90s i forget when thus making ackerman mcqueen the in-house ad entity and the group that would do uh you know this uh there was even i even saw a quote of like where somebody were putting we're putting another guy in charge of somebody named lipson maybe it was dan lipson uh that this guy is being looked to to generate edgy even controversial work uh said he's our most aggressive and irreverent person in the agency said angus mcqueen one of the official or partners uh of of ackerman mcqueen so that's so this was part of that mandate and you have to to wonder if the ties were severed in summer 2003 and this was being done in late 2001,

was Six Flags Live possibly one of the things that burnt the bridge? And thus causing them to go to a new ad group and causing the creation of Mr. Six. We might owe Mr. Six in some weird way to Six Flags Live. I owe him all my success he's your idol early early mentor figure early encourager he taught you how to be weird yeah um but anyway he taught me this to be weird yeah you said a mess uh hey my my comedy hero so uh i was like what is the what was the rest of the the ad with the representation world of ackerman mcqueen and i looked them up and i found that they remain a very uh the thriving entity and did a ton of business in especially the 90s 2000s and up until 2019 when they lost this major client

but for three solid decades they raked it in they made a ton of money from their biggest client and it's a client that you may have heard of that is the nra god the company that made this oh my god ackerman mcqueen or acmac as it's called for short, was the PR firm. Wow. Represent doing all public relations for the NRA from the 90s till 2019. Wow. Every piece of media we've ever seen print. There's a list.

They provided public relations work, marketing, branding, corporate communications, event planning, web planning web design social media engagement digital content production all of this was done by the same group that made six flags live wow so they had to deal with that pesky michael moore yes yeah that was probably that was probably one of their biggest challenges was like getting that uh getting the organization to you know look combative and in fight and shape when that movie came out uh uh they operated something called nra tv which was on for a little while and i think is no longer uh um here's okay the group's called ackerman mcqueen uh here is a photo of uh angus mcqueen that is the male in this photo okay and that is him next to a roller coaster showing his uh association with six flags of course when this person died in 2019 the new york times headline was angus mcqueen the nra's image maker wow that is how much this is the the head of this company is like one of the

main people attributed with the nra that we know today because at one point in time in the earlier 90s they were not this like flagrant disgusting there was kind of a proto version of the nra trade like a sportsman like organization yeah yeah yeah and i think it was less of like a pack and this like awful kind of militia type uh right they turned it into such a crazy issue yeah yeah as far as just like basic regulations and and i think the main way that they did that is with this ad company it is you can find quotes saying they are credited with the modern success of the nra they gave pr counseling to wayne lapierre he started as like a lower level guy in the nra just kind of like timid quiet just did where and they hooked on to him as the guy

they could ride to get more power as their advocate within the company so they gave him pr training so that he could give like a real barn burner of a speech they made they the six flags live people made wayne lapierre the villain that he is today wow what a twist i never but doesn't it but don't you feel it it all makes sense in in some weird way uh the new yorker said the nra and ackerman mcqueen have become so intertwined it is difficult to tell where one ends and the other begins my god remember that ghoul dana loche yeah she was on their payroll not the nra's that's how it works because that's the spokeswoman who oversaw the edits do we know for six flags live well look what we know is that i mean that's 2001 and and yeah and they their their nra dealings were

90s up through 2019 so absolutely there were people who would earlier in the day take a call from the nra and then go and uh work on the edit and try to get more midriff into the six flags live cut my god 100 these people here's let me get it let me go a little bit deeper and the roller coaster guy i showed you mcqueen um in 2019 a tape was discovered by npr that was all of the the main brain trust of the nra the day after columbine discussing what are we going to do now and it wasn't the the quite the horrible nra that we know today that only doubles down after there's a horrible tragedy right this was a group that was truly shaken by it as human beings would be sure and in that call is la pierre uh and this guy and he

specifically was like he's on tape talking about how you know we have to show our best face here because you know if we get some of the nuttier people in our organization you know some of those hillbillies some of those idiots going down to the school then that's going to look horrible for us for he's on tape knowing that the nr that the worst people in the nra are nuts right so just like a weird like kind of slice of of time and of a certain time for for the organization but what i just love is the possibility that this guy he's on a call going like you know i mean if clinton comes after us you know this is gonna be you know if he makes a scapegoat out of us then you know we could be in trouble forever anyway i gotta go because we're deciding between cory and david and i'm not sure david's got david's got energy and cory's a little edgier but maybe edgy is what we want so i don't

know maybe we'll hire them both i'm not sure anyway gotta go wayne see ya charlton see ya anyway one of them's gonna be on six flags live want to be one of them's gonna be the spokesman for so surge soda you know i that's what i don't want to lose him frankly no no we agree you don't like i don't look we'll deal with it we'll write the speech for charlton but we've got some catchphrases brewing, but you please go deal with the Corey situation. Anyways, one more little bit to that is that, uh, this, uh, ACMAC and NRA who were previously intertwined, uh, as the NRA has come into a lot of financial trouble, they couldn't afford to pay this i think this acmac

soaked them for money for many many where ardent nra members were like you gotta drop this group how much are we paying and they laundered wayne lumpier's money sure there's a whole thing so it fell apart in a mess of lawsuits and recently in a lawsuit in uh 2020 in january 2020 this is just like dry legal documents you can go find online uh and here is a little snippet on january 24th 2020 the nra subpoenaed non-party six flags entertainment corporation to produce the following documents and then there's a list of eight and number eight is documents reflecting any concerns about or requests to Ackerman McQueen for information on Six Flags Live, including but not limited to documents concerning Ackerman McQueen's response. Oh, my God. Number nine is documents and communications prepared by Ackerman McQueen that relate to the following projects.

Six Flags Live. this video that came to us as lost media be fun to see that again was being sought by the nra for what reason why did they need to see it and is there anything i could have like was it something was were they maybe like uh okay we think there's we think they're stealing a lot of money from us let's never watched Six Flags live. If we put it on and find the most expensive multi-take endeavor we've ever seen, then we'll know. If we look at the host's shiny, spiky hair, and we know that it's done with the toppest quality of 2001 hair spikery.

Our researchers watched the pilot it appears they shot it for 300 dollars and pocketed the other 20 000 maybe it was proof that these are money launderers look look at the shabby production not one there's nothing on the screen we have a lot of doubts of whether these girls were actually paid in mountain dew bottles yeah what if they said six flags live cost us a hundred million dollars to make yeah maybe that's it yes and they needed to like oh look your honor look at the results of this and there was some like like they you know like the heat's on us all right you know we gotta we gotta do we need a bigger pr campaign than we've ever had sorry we don't have the money we just lost a bundle on six flags live i mean that's we're talking nine

digits there yeah i uh can we see it it's lost we lost the media it's lost media i would love to show it to you but no way we can yeah this was i mean we're talking height you know like you know like imax cameras and yeah explosions i think in every shot we blew up a lot of rides um the hosts arrived into every frame in a helicopter we spared no expense for six flags life each cory cost 30 million dollars to pay because they're so in demand well that cloning machine is expensive to run what's this corey line item that's just a question mark it's like well we made a corey put goggles on his forehead ain't just the weight of the goggles just melted him the keep in mind the coreys in the production are just the coreys you see there were tons of coreys who died due to their own stupidity who immediately were released out of the machine and drowned um this more do you know the prestige um there's all

the tanks under the anyway uh so that's we got a whole warehouse full of corys like that spent a hundred million dollars on green tattoo removal very expensive if you didn't know green takes 20 times when you're doing one of those laser treatments i would bet the green was the easiest to arrive it's hard we actually we had to give them the tweety bird and the tigger tattoos the artist accidentally used green so then we had to do 20 times taking the green off but the yellow and orange on that's ridiculous if somebody has a tigger tattoo that they want to take off just use a gun just blast it off well you aim precisely it'll blast that tattoo right off that's not a solution

every problem wayne we told you that you know not with that attitude it's not uh anyway what a i i could not believe that turn in the Six Flags. That's wild. Live tale. I just kind of zone out when I see ad agency names, and I really got to look them up to go like. Well, yeah, I know. Future clues, I guess, coming. And again, they switched to Donor,

who I guess are just as evil as a regular ad company. Oh, yeah. Specifically supervill villain evil. Anyway, so, boy, the more you know, the stuff you find out, now you know everything about something you never heard about until we started talking. And with that, you survived Podcast The Ride, The Second Gate. Thanks for subscribing.

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