Podcast: The Ride - Unlocked: That Disney On Ice Show Where The Incredibles Meet The Pirates From Pirates Of The Caribbean

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FOREVER! DOG! 5, 4, 3, 2, 1! Welcome to Podcast The Ride, the second gate. We are new for 2022. We're back. And what better way to kick it off than with some bullshit I found the other day. I'm Scott Gairdner and happy to be reunited with Jason Sheridan.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Hi, Jason. Hi, Scott. Happy New Year and Happy New Year, listeners. Omicron winter. Hi, Jason. Hi, Scott. Happy New Year and happy New Year listeners. Omicron winter. Let's go. Let's get this shit started with what can only be described as an icy fever dream. Oh, it was a blast of a Christmas. It was so nostalgic. Like we're always so nostalgic for the 90s or maybe even the 2000s like today but we're never nostalgic for march 2020 and it was just great to be back indoors and scared and watching depressing tv again it's such a retro flashback what do you think mike carlson i'm here you know before we
Starting point is 00:01:20 started recording today i was like you know what you probably shouldn't mention what's going on the world so this is an evergreen episode. But you know what? Now it's out the window. And yes, what a time to be live, part three or four, however you want to count what's happening. We're going through it. So yeah, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Yeah, it's because Scott was saying it's a fun retro vibe we've got going today. You know, the show, a lot of retro stuff on the show in general. But why does it have to be 10 years, 20 years? Why can't it be just maybe a year and a half or two? You know, that's retro. Remember Jackbox Game? We're playing Jackbox Games again. Do you remember Quiplash?
Starting point is 00:02:03 You would say funny things. And you would write diarrhea in the prompt and then everyone would laugh watch along so watch along watch a movie uh seconds behind your friends watching the movie which you think won't be a noticeable difference until it is very noticeable we tried doing this we watched of course jay and silent bob uh return what was it called rebooted reboot the jay and silent bob reboot we watched it uh all together a year and a half ago and of course one of the stars of that movie is featured today in the thing we're going to be talking about uh i don't think i know oh oh oh yeah okay now i got it he is a cameo in the move i mean he's not one of the main characters
Starting point is 00:02:45 i think i showed up at the very end uh and i don't remember if it was on purpose or not but i do remember clicking into the room it was essentially credits and have being a little like few yeah you seemed upset at the idea and then i think you like yeah begrudgingly showed up a little later and then yeah did not see any of the film but we tried to we tried to tell you what had happened and what was going on by the time you got to the first what happened stopped what happened to holden what happened to all the characters that you remember uh that you know the waves of covid are kind of like the view askew universe coming back like you think it's done we all pray that it's done and then there's a new wave of getting back whatever the main clerk is
Starting point is 00:03:34 and it's and it's like it never like it never left there'll be yes there'll be some drama between brian o'halloran and kevin and then will he come back for three and he is coming back for three uh yeah so I think that is that's coming out right the clerks three that is real so yeah so there is another wave of there's another wave of COVID there's another wave of clerks that's happening uh it's right now so we took we took for a moment classic rock talk off the table and then we're happily bringing it back i think that i honestly i think the audience should complain about view a skewniverse talk we haven't seen enough complaints about it that's an interesting quote yeah does the audience i'll pose that to the audience is this enough a skewniverse talk
Starting point is 00:04:21 are you happy with the amount do you want more do you want less i'm scared of the answer now i don't yeah i'm not sure um but i look jason and i were very steeped in the eschew universe for many years uh when we were chill i don't know about you scott but we were we were hardcore in the eschew universe so i'm wondering if the audience is like us because i do feel like if the audience is listening to us they maybe can feel some of the things we like and no i think i think the audience definitely is like us as most films are now uh operating under view with skewniverse shared universe rules oh that's a good point that's true he was he was ahead of the curve uh for sure on many things um one thing that i hope that the audience enjoys is talking about weird micro things that happened on twitter and that were kind of jokes of episodes that are in the process of becoming real episodes because that's what this is today um here's what happened if you missed the
Starting point is 00:05:21 the build-up to this um basically well just really very elemental and i'll break i'll break down where i found it and everything but i ran into a clip from a an ice show from what i've now determined is 2005 2006 i'm not sure the exact year but around then um there was apparently some kind of disney ice show that uh culminates in or at least includes mr incredible ripping the bars off of the pirates of the caribbean prison and unleashing the prisoners and i just came across this image and it was so striking and i felt like i had to do a gif of it and i just as a joke on twitter said hey guys would you sign off on doing an episode about this um and uh though though there were some setzer related diversions there were some setzer bombs i admit yeah we bought you a bit drop sets
Starting point is 00:06:15 or bombs into the into the equation uh ultimately we did agree to do this and i uh i part of why i thought well maybe we should actually do this is because the the tweet was responded to well and i saw listeners responding oh my god i went to that it was so uh bizarre and confusing and when i hear bizarre and confusing i'm like check check seems like something we should do an episode about absolutely yeah this i mean this is well past my uh regular disney on ice attendance my family my dad reminded me like oh yeah we went to a number of disney on ice shows because they were always in philadelphia um the week between christmas and new year's So, you know, when you're looking,
Starting point is 00:07:06 when the kids are out of school and you're looking for something to occupy them with, that was a good, like, oh, here's a good family outing. I'm assuming they travel with multiple companies so they can pull that gimmick in multiple cities. I was gonna, yeah, because all the dates that I'm seeing of when this was in la or exactly in that run yeah maybe they try to cover that time as best as they
Starting point is 00:07:32 can in as many places they can so you don't you because there's a broader thing to talk about here i guess which is disney on ice shows which we have not really discussed so you are a uh a seasoned attendee of disney on ice shows or at least you were yeah i mean yeah we would hit up the you know any of the power rangers live of course teenage mutant ninja turtles coming out of their shells uh there was a rugrats tour sesame street live like i i'm sure we would have seen sesame street live yeah we so we loved it and i think a lot of those too they they book shows around like how long weekends or or the holiday season but yeah disney on ice is something we haven't really touched upon it's certainly not well documented compared to some
Starting point is 00:08:20 of the other things we cover yeah this would this one was tricky to find footage of, and I'd imagine a 90s one would be a lot more difficult, because this show was running kind of at the exact advent of YouTube, so there's some sporadic weird clips, but still some holes I found. But yeah, do you remember anything specific from 90s shows? Or like, what were they pushing? Is this a Lion King one? Is this a Beauty and the Beast one?
Starting point is 00:08:44 I don't know what the hell is going on with disney on ice yeah i i think when i would have seen it it likely would have been you know the gang the big six is that what they're called the big six um uh mickey i call him that yeah mickey mickey minnie there there is an intra-company term of like the main one of like mickey minnie donald daisy goofy pluto um like kevin smiths who are brody jay silent bob brody and benzie dante randall mooby movie uh yeah so i them and probably little mermaid and aladdin maybe tail end of if you they had rescuers skating around you know oh maybe hmm mike any experience with these i have i think we went to one disney on ice and i i don't remember i i remember going to sesame street live and that being like the big thing that I got excited,
Starting point is 00:09:46 very excited for. And I remember even leaving baseball practice early to go to a Sesame Street Live once and being a little embarrassed that that was the reason. So I think we lied to the coach and didn't tell him that's why we were leaving early. I think we said we had a family party or something because I was already self-conscious because I was maybe like first or second grade. And I was was like I know I'm a little too old for this but uh oh that's an interesting uh addition to the story yeah still into Sesame Street yeah and my sister was three years younger so obviously like right in her wheelhouse but I still wanted to see
Starting point is 00:10:19 it I still want to see what was happening there but I think we went to disney on ice around that time or maybe a little later i do remember maybe this is a false memory but i do remember like friend like me in the show so probably around that time i don't remember being like so blown away by the show as a kid i don't remember going oh wow is that amazing we got to go every year but i think i liked it fine these kind of things often end up like fine like good enough to justify the money which i will say it seems like this stuff is never that super expensive that like i think they continue to price these things right well and especially if you wait till the last minute as we found out with batman live
Starting point is 00:11:03 which we didn't go together but we all i think probably bought like discount tickets yes yeah we had the exact same experience despite not going together where we got like the biggest plus up we got moved like many many rows down just because nobody was there which seems like the case with like every once in a while footage that i found of this incredible show, it pans to the audience and there's no one there. Almost nobody there. So it might not indicate a failure of a show. I think they might just do a ton of them accounting for like, yeah, I don't know. It's going to be 25 to 30% full, but we'll stay there and do a bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And it's easy. Yeah. I think Batman live was running two shows a day. And we've talked about this before. Batman live was like a live stunt show. did a couple years ago yeah um but i think also if you're a big ice skating fan that like i was not a big ice skating fan my sister did some ice skating when she was little and i'd have to go to like those long like recital things where they would it would they would literally be like four hours and they had about 45 acts and you would have like i think you would have like a brochure that said how many
Starting point is 00:12:09 acts there were and i remember just like my sister was in one of them oh you're sitting watching like eight-year-olds skate in a circle to music for like four hours and i remember as a kid just being like oh my god how what so i was not a big skating fan in general, but I was obviously a big Disney fan. But it did not leave a huge impression on me in the way a Sesame Street live did. Sure. Yeah. I one thing I kind of remember and was confirmed in this show is that the characters are constantly waving at the audience and even to the point i i bring
Starting point is 00:12:49 this up like yeah these characters mickey always waves to kids always waves to the crowd but to the point where it's like aren't you are supposed i think the kids are good if you if you take the 90 seconds to do this dialogue this pre-recorded dialogue exchange i think you can take a break and also little ice skating like little ice skating flourishes too yeah where it's like there's no one here there's no one here in in the line for the ride like you know but they're still kind of doing a little waggle or a little toe tap or something a little spin yeah a little spin doesn't help the drama though as you're saying this like you're absolutely right from a storytelling perspective but
Starting point is 00:13:42 uh having a kid who waving is one of his favorite activities i feel like if i took him to this he might be he might see the video you watched and his note would be not enough waving not enough they might be right on with their audience and you are probably you and erin are probably like yeah up the waving up the waving we want him falling asleep when you're doing your bowels we want him asleep for the car ride oh oh yeah absolutely yes this should he should just get to shout characters whose name he can kind of say one syllable of and this should knock him out yeah that that's the other thing i think about these shows i'm i'm sure i could find the current schedule of them uh i feel like yeah it's two shows a day
Starting point is 00:14:25 i feel like an early matinee and a late matinee i don't think they're going uh they're doing an eight o'clock or nine o'clock set you know there's especially if there's a hockey game if they're booking hockey games in these same arenas oh yeah or a concert later yeah maybe these might be designed to not like uh conflict with any other events that might want to use the space that might be that's true the late show is 4 30 p.m it's a noon show and 4 30 p.m so they can get a time like a camcorder stamp on one of these who knew like who knows if that time is wrong or just misprogrammed but for sure i saw an 11 a.m pop oh wow which might be that's correct you know i think it's a great
Starting point is 00:15:12 thing about it kind of the only other place you're going to find it is theme parks where else in the world can you be like sitting in a venue and watching a show before and potentially uh having a alcoholic beverage all before 11 a.m it's hard to do anywhere else yeah i mean i love i love going to the movies and i i really love going to either the very first show of the day or the very last show of the day uh when you when you might have the the place to yourself that was a fun holiday outing it's like oh there's a new spider-man movie and the thrill in this one is that if you go to this one you might get sick that hasn't happened with the previous ones the thrill of spider-man this time is he kicked off this wave the movie was so popular that spell thank god there weren't good enough movies for all of these months
Starting point is 00:16:08 to cause a spike yes we're gonna use spider-man for being watchable and fun yeah we went to i real quick lindsey and i went to a drive-thru to see spider-man oh and we're like you know through you didn't keep driving no no there was a screen on the mcdonald's drive-thru and we were like you know through you didn't keep driving no no there was a screen on the mcdonald's drive-thru and we watched it uh no you're right a drive-in we went out there's a couple drive-ins and we're like you know what would be fun going to the drive-in to see spider like yeah that does sound fun because of all oh let's go see the drive-in or whatever and uh we went to the drive-in and it sucked ass it was awful you couldn't see shit you couldn't see where'd you go uh where did we go we went to the mish was it the mission tiki one oh i've heard of that okay okay
Starting point is 00:16:52 yeah yeah um i haven't done that in all this time we couldn't see anything on the screen except for the very bright scenes we could hear characters we'd be like i think that's alfred molina talking and then you would look and then this is not the fault of the i mean the driver needs to upgrade their uh equipment but then you would look right and i would watch some of uh soundless ghostbusters afterlife just get a general impression so i yeah i got some what happens visually in it um i saw um not this tom holland film but another tom holland film cherry oh drive-in when things were still really grim and boy that if i was trying to escape grimness i don't know why i went to a city of industry drive-in of cherry oh my god it was all it was like so post-apocalyptic
Starting point is 00:17:42 it had to be witnessed and also one of those where you could like you i you know obviously i can't see through the windows and see what's happening in the other cars but you really feel like people are uh doing anything but watching the movie oh yeah the guy in front of us kept getting out of the car and going into his trunk for some reason he was like blasting us with a light because his trunk opening his trunk i just gotta get some cords just gotta get some bungee cords maybe he had food back there i was like then then he left 20 minutes before the movie was over oh yeah and it was oh and then our car died because you have to keep it in accessory mode to do the radio yeah but apparently that's i
Starting point is 00:18:24 i had one in charge because it's a hybrid car do the radio yeah but apparently that's i i had went and charged because it's a hybrid car i went and charged it with the the bet i was like oh this will be fine we'll go straight to just the battery but i'm an idiot who knows nothing about cars so when we were looking online later it's like just turn the car on don't leave it in accessory mode if you turn the car on it's fine but i left in an accessory mode for a very long spider-man movie wow and uh i was like there's an employee and i'm like hey uh i'm so sorry uh i think we need to jump the he goes oh yeah okay hold on a second he gets the guy over there's just a guy walking around with a battery oh it must happen all the time yeah i go oh i'm so sorry he goes
Starting point is 00:19:01 that's okay i go how many is that how many have happened he's like guys like the fourth or fifth tonight okay it's like okay yeah i know yeah well yeah cars aren't really like meant to have that mid mode anymore or like i didn't know how my it was like i'm like my car i've never done this with my car before it was very yeah i was so worried about it dying well because the old my memory also the last time I went to a drive-in was to see The Mask, which is obviously a long time ago. And I thought it was fun. My memory was it was really fun. And that was the old school way, I think, where they had the box.
Starting point is 00:19:34 So you didn't have to have your car on. You would have the box that attached to your window with the audio. So that's- Not running through the radio station in your car i think the little radio station aspect is fun but uh yeah uh you yeah you think that these things are gonna be a little like lift from the from the bummer but it maybe only reflects the bummer more yes they really really depressed me because i i was gonna go opening night and there's it's a movie with a lot of pops as i like to you know i like to call them pops a lot of pops and you can
Starting point is 00:20:11 hear what we so instead of like a whole audience erupting when somebody would come on the screen i would hear like one person in the car over go oh yeah like yeah like one person you'd be like oh this is actually sad i liked hearing that but this is actually sadder it's making me sadder and then the screen you can't even see which i do think they could upgrade the projector and that might take care of that issue and it would have made it a little less depressing but the whole night was horribly depressing and we i just drove home we just drove home sad it's like oh god yeah God. Yeah. I thought it was going to be fun. We were almost there.
Starting point is 00:20:46 We were almost, because there was that dinner planned that was at Bucca di Beppo at CityWalk, and you were like, I can't go, because I've got to go see Spider-Man. Exactly. You had conflicting CityWalk plans, which made me say more than anything. We're back. We're back. It happened. It's over.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And then this thing snuck back. It ruined all the city walk plans all the city walk plans i know so yes that got altered i that was going to be the glorious return to city walks movie which i would have a city walk movie opening night which the marvel movie doesn't even have to be good as long as a character is on screen that people recognize so they all cheer and that is experience is fun it doesn't matter if the movie's good or not it's just a fun experience to be in that city walk theater you know with like one margarita in you from the margaritaville bar and cheering at a familiar name it doesn't even have to be the actual actor or an actor it just is a name and we'll go we'll
Starting point is 00:21:40 hoot and holler yeah yeah well you know if i could dovetail it back into this i mean this show is a really any ice show it seems like is a great opportunity to yell for someone you recognize oh and i think they i can't i almost can't hate on these if i'm judging them from a from a storytelling angle then then maybe but uh you know they do successfully like to the i was noticing in videos that i was watching uh here's like all right here's a little story beat and this seems to be going over okay and then at the end uh i think mr incredible says okay everybody let's party and then all the characters come out it's like cinderella and stitch and everybody from mismatching worlds and they all dance to dancing in the streets and people go ape shit so yeah
Starting point is 00:22:31 that's good i mean it's look it's a parade of characters that are traveling at like a higher speed than normal that's really what it is because they're on skates so it's a little bit faster a lot of familiar songs enough that you can't see them they aren't just colors no they're visible funny funny you said traveling a little faster because the first video i found uh uh watching this was uh from 2019 and it is not the storyline that we are so obsessed with. The Incredibles are in it, but it involves Goofy driving an out-of-control car on the ice with a hitch wagon. And all the characters in the car,
Starting point is 00:23:15 and there's, of course, now there's giant LED screens. It's moving very fast, but the wagon is going five miles an hour. And for a long time time all the characters are just going goofy slow down you gotta slow down man what are you doing we need help and then the incredibles all come out one at a time and do their powers to help slow down this car and it's very i feel like even as a child i would have been like they're not going fit the tv's going fit like they're fine what is happening and if you have a side view then
Starting point is 00:23:53 maybe you're not even seeing that screen you don't know what the problem is whatsoever so it's like speed it's like speed or something like what is it like goofy is a car he's just driving poorly or is a car out of control i It seems like a like like half six of one half a dozen of the other. Like I don't. It's unclear. Goofy is in the movie Death Proof. Goofy's like the stuntman Mike in Death Proof. And he's he's trying to crash his car.
Starting point is 00:24:17 He's he's he's like lost control of the car. And Mr. Incredible is trying to stop it. And then Elastigirl comes out. And they there was a gag I found a clip of a gag where she's like stretching but not in this in this she's just like doing normal stretching while skating which is very impressive to wait when you when you say normal stretching she's just like normal she's got like she's touching her toes like she's kind of holding her one leg up while the other leg is skating so like that probably
Starting point is 00:24:46 takes a significant amount of balance and then violet comes out in the inflatable ball that like wayne coin uses at flaming lip shows and she doesn't really help she just kind of moves around yeah oh that's how they do the the little sphere that's pretty good yeah that's right and flaming lips did that those concerts and during the pandemic with the ball everybody was in balls in the audience so maybe that's how some of this would be safe to do today the drive-in should have had the balls oh yeah it should be a roll-up it shouldn't be a drive-in it should be a roll-up with your big inflatable ball and then yeah because imagine watching you know each each cameo that occurs in the
Starting point is 00:25:25 movie then like watching a field of bubbles all jiggle around yeah you're looking at a big bubble bath and if you want yeah and like up front like the mosh pit that you can like bump around with people oh my god thomas hayden church bumping into each other oh yeah my nose bled from thomas aiden church bumping oh spoiler alert i guess i guess i technically didn't know that one but i don't you know i'm not the guy to well again spoiler alert it's really mostly his voice and then i think it's a re like reused shot of his actual human form from spider-man 3 from 20 years ago maybe oh i don't even know that he's actually i think he did his lines over zoom because he's mostly in his sandman like giant sand creature the whole time so you don't get a lot of aid mr hayden church whatever
Starting point is 00:26:18 we don't want to push out mr hayden church you don't get a lot of hayden church which is really why i think i said it because i there's bigger things that are more exciting in there sure sure yeah yeah um let me uh let me say a little bit about how i ran into this thing which is seemingly let's say the proper name of it which i think at least at one point i think the name of this particular story changed a lot but i found it initially as being disney presents pixar's the incredibles in a magic kingdom adventure um i think other iterations it was a disneyland adventure i think maybe then this this also was done right before the the deal the merger so they had to like pull out pixar in that weird way um kind of it comes from an interesting time in general. I would say I ran into, I was, became aware of this in this weird little clip from watching
Starting point is 00:27:08 the 2005 Disney Christmas parade, the very Merry Christmas parade, uh, which I haven't gone into the two thousands ones very much. Cause I assume that they were kind of sanitized and boring, but this one, there was kind of a lot going on. It's the first parade ever to be introduced by Iiger not by eisner it was after that changeover so he's getting his intro skills together obviously he was great i mean if looking because he's we're kind of done with eiger now um and if we're looking at his body of work in terms of uh welcoming people to holiday specials he was no eisner but i don't think he you know he didn't
Starting point is 00:27:43 drop the ball either that's true yeah i mean we i mean there's definitely we can definitely get into he's it's hard to like celebrate anyone but eisner as far as the intros are concerned now but look we have a podcast and we need content so there's plenty of eiger stuff that we should take a look at and say oh maybe we were just not of the right age at the time yeah that's true viewing our eiger's work not as a ceo but as an on-camera presence i think is is probably something that that uh this podcast right we can take a critical eye and say maybe we were maybe you know he we can find things i think that we may have overlooked i think he never evolved he didn't like grow into the performer's shoes in the way that eisner did but i think that we may have overlooked i think he never evolved he didn't like grow into the performer's shoes in the way that eisner did but i think he started okay and ended up good
Starting point is 00:28:30 i think he got more handsome as the years went on i'll say this i definitely think his style improved i think whatever he was doing just i don't know facially i don't know if he's got some sort of skincare regime or anything like regimen excuse me uh that uh i don't know what he's doing but he looks good he like retired hotter yeah i think so really unlike a president the presidency ages everyone but the reverse of the american presidency that's right yeah yeah so what that's all any of us can hope to do yeah retire hotter so you start oh yes jason oh i was just gonna say yeah i agree an interesting time for kind of everything in the company with the pixar fluctuation the parks are in a weird state um that weird last minute hail mary muppets purchase
Starting point is 00:29:19 right is around here oh i guess so yeah yeah well you know the special takes you on tours of dca 1.0 which is improving you know we got tower of terror now um tiger woods takes a bunch of kids on soren that's fun all right guys he's ready to soar yay um uh you get uh george w bush in a long section for the troops that's an interesting time capsule. 50th anniversary of Disneyland, which I'm assuming plays a factor into some of the choices in this. Yeah, yeah. That's basically what's going on. And that's so half of this, you know, it's still Regis, but we got Kelly Ripa as the co-host now.
Starting point is 00:30:00 And half of the special is hosted by Ryan Se seacrest from disneyland who's talking about the 50th anniversary a lot and he does this brief plug of this ice show there's gonna be a 65 city ice tour and uh the incredibles are gonna take you on it they're gonna go on a trip to disneyland that's gonna tribute the 50th anniversary and just all this imagery is going by really quick. And it was so brief, but it just really struck me, this powerful image of Mr. Incredible freeing the pirates. The pirates, I think, are iconic. The pirates with the dog and the key next to them. You know, we've all passed them many a time,
Starting point is 00:30:42 but you don't get to know their fate. You don't know how they got out. So seeing a different iconic character set them free, it just really pulled me in. And there was a real like violence to the footage. I really felt the force of Mr. Incredible. I just I just wanted to know more. I don't know if it struck you guys as powerful as it did me but it was it was an arresting image i felt well it turned some conventional thing on its head on it on its ear that turned your expectations were circum uh circumvented uh you know it was
Starting point is 00:31:16 one of those things where you were like i didn't know that was possible yeah like like spider-man movie you didn't know what was possible for mr incredible to be in this world and it was funny to see him in this world now freeing a bunch of maniac pirates like because like this is now i'm actually getting into another topic here and we have not done we've only done one episode really on pirates of the caribbean barely yeah this is gonna be this rate is gonna be the last entire year of the podcast right so we'll that'll be yes full calendar year all on pirates um but it's unclear like why are these pirates in prison and the other pirates are roman that were the were these pirates too crazy for the other pirates how how did this all go down is my question so it is on it is unclear
Starting point is 00:32:06 to me actually seeing this this picture was asking more questions it left me with more questions than i had before because i'm like why does he think this is a good idea really aaron uh proposed the opposite of what you're saying that there that it is a a topsy-turvy world if the pirates have taken control of the town uh perhaps when where the regular city might imprison people who are bad maybe the pirates have put some of their own in jail who were not bad enough they were goody two shoes and so we don't want these people we're going to punish them for not doing enough pillaging and setting things on fire right so they that's interesting so they yeah they wouldn't like participate in any of the games they wouldn't chase the women around they wouldn't set fires
Starting point is 00:32:56 they wouldn't um drink excess amounts of like moonshine or whatever they're drinking made no bids in the auction didn't participate right so it's just best to have these people uh put away and not interrupting our fun gotcha so yeah no i it suggests a world it suggests a world where everybody can meet which is fun i think really that's what it comes down to the idea that that that any pick pick any pixar character and then put them on one of the rides and with the characters on the rides and it is fun you know i mean we can just uh ratatouille remy is uh he's like he's on the ball and the madame leota ball in the haunted mansion or something like you didn't know that was possible but it is um one of the small
Starting point is 00:33:45 world dolls eating nemo yes like just the fins hanging around an image as well right just a little flipper right um the kevin spacey bugs life character um is uh just walking down main street saying hello to people. He's sitting on the bench. He's sitting on the bench. You know? Just rubbing his wings up against somebody. Rubbing his thorax.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Right. So that's the fun. Not the Kevin Spacey thing. That's not fun. Yeah, maybe not. Yeah, yeah. But the fun ones we should do and everybody should have fun together. Here's what then I determined about the show. And we can go into the plot and why this happened. But, you know, broad strokes, there's a par family trip to Disneyland this powerful moment in context, I determined that it was maybe not the climax of the show and maybe didn't have the dramatic heft that I thought.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And in fact, the buildup is seemingly the Incredibles are kind of around Pirates of the Caribbean. And Mr. Incredible says, hey, look, it looks like these guys probably want to come out. You want to come out? And he takes the bars off and they come out. Which is, so now, discovering that, I feel a little embarrassed to propose an episode about it. Because I thought, surely this is the climax of the show. And that it has some like, can you hear the people sing like there's like something like this is this is about like glory and justice we must i cannot see my brethren
Starting point is 00:35:33 held captive any longer um i i assume like that's what the show built to but apparently not it just kind of happens and then they dance yeah it's not even like the first ride they mess around in yeah the justification is that yeah they're at disneyland in there's a scene before this where they literally say uh i think i wrote the line down uh maybe we should see how mickey and his team are doing over in new orleans square this is our kind of show this is great yeah so they're they're those aren't pirate pirates those are literally the animatronic pirates so you watch people on ice skates doing repetitive animatronic like motions and then sort of when the characters leave they come to life and do of course a big dance ice
Starting point is 00:36:26 dancing number that's pretty good i love that they're supposed to be the robots and that this ice show is recreating rides and simulated stuff it's a simulation of a simulation yes so i i i was delighted by that justification and i And my podcaster brain was like, wouldn't more people have been to Disney World than Disneyland? And then when I started thinking about the anniversary, I was like, okay, I kind of see that. That's why, yeah. The Disneyland Adventure Show also features the same,
Starting point is 00:37:04 like just tossed off beat of Goofy opening the gate. Or opening the prison. Yeah, Goofy just, like, opens the thing. It's, like, not a big, it's not like Spotlight. They're finally free. It's just a casual thing of, like, oh, gosh. We should let him out. Why do these, like, good characters want to let out the pirates it's
Starting point is 00:37:26 kind of weird it's a good question i mean i guess in the in the disney the disney verse in this version everyone's just like a goofy character like a nice character um you know anti-carceral activist the prison system needs to be reformed there's a lower class i am in it and when there's a criminal class i am of it i don't yeah they could have had i mean that was the subtext i think as far as goofy opening those prison doors but i don't know that they actually said so out loud product of their upbringing yuck yeah it's a reform not imprisonment um yeah so i don't i don't i think literally they're like somebody who's
Starting point is 00:38:15 writing the show if you want to call it that which i guess you have to write i shouldn't put it down somebody went oh it wouldn't be fun we're goofy to open the door and the pirates skate too and somebody goes yeah that seems good i think though that the the the pirates do become a problem or that they do they do end up being villains and and capture mickey and minnie i like from what i can tell and again piecing this together from really sporadic videos from all over different times but i yeah go ahead mike i was gonna say it's a nightmare to try to figure out exactly the narrative because there's so many different like little snippets of stuff and then i think i found another snippet from the same show
Starting point is 00:38:54 but then it's a total it's like the same beat like what happens in that in that regis special his syndrome comes jason lee of course jason lee's syndrome comes and he like he he doesn't capture mickey and minnie but he has dialogue that's exactly the same as other versions of disney on ice where syndrome captures mickey and minnie and takes them away yeah he wants to take over the park or use his powers on the park right and he's gonna he's destroying disney world to create syndrome land right that is said at some point so it's still an amusement park but like an evil one and devoted to him syndrome land yes but i'm just saying it's like hard to tell because they again is with the goofy thing like they took pieces of things and it's hard to like know exactly what is what from year to year yes yeah there's like two videos i saw a lot of videos tagged 2009
Starting point is 00:39:48 so even in 2009 they're keeping this going but i saw two videos that had the same like setup scott did you i'm assuming you saw the small world sequence you think so yeah where it's like they jack jack is on the like a windmill in Small World and they need to get him down and they slow the ride down. The music goes real slow. The footage was too shitty for me to see that Jack Jack was on it. I didn't know why they were messing with the windmill. So thank you for clarifying.
Starting point is 00:40:19 There's another angle, I think in another city where you can see him pick up, Jack Jack is just a baby doll. They're just like, on jack jack yeah that's really funny throughout that they have to deal with the baby and take care of him like he's a baby but also it's just a prop that gets in the way of things so they gotta throw him around and at some point even in the ryan seacrest narration i noticed uh mr incredible skating in a way where jack jack's under his arm and it kind of looks like he's choking him and at the end of the show he throws him up in the air really high they drop the baby it gets run over by a skate yeah they do it to keep their balance like yeah
Starting point is 00:40:57 keep that vibe but so he restarts the ride with his incredible strength and then the music goes real fast and that is a great justification for them to do that real fast ice skating spin yeah yeah yeah that was that was uh pretty fun the window controls all of the music on small world that's pretty good um i you know i i do enjoy this thing in general and i like the idea like the idea of like the idea of the ice show is a family trip to Disneyland. And then that justifies that it's not just going to be ice skaters, but also big props that are like what you get to see at Disneyland. But you get to see them in your town if you can't go. So you get teacups out on the ice. You get a jungle cruise boat.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah. At the end, a lot of stuff's repurposed, but with electrical parade type lights, like this kind of jungle cruise boat yeah at the end a lot of stuff's repurposed but with electrical parade type lights like this kind of a mini electrical parade at the end like i would love going to this being so disneyland starved at all times like any any way that i could see disneyland stuff without even getting to go i would have loved yeah this is i mean i know they've had what was it the 60th where they had like the the show that everyone thought was going to be celebrating the parks and it ended up just being the music from the movies oh remember like there was a firework castle show and i forget the
Starting point is 00:42:14 name of it people are yelling at the podcast right now but uh there was they have had shows where they like do all the music from the parks and stuff at like at the nighttime celebration stuff but they had just for some reason was like playing songs from the movies to celebrate the 60th anniversary of disneyland and i was watching this and going like this is this is like what i really wanted from that obviously yeah yeah i mean because you get like tiki room at the end like like the finale they play tiki room and you get a lot of haunted mansion stuff like there's a whole big sequence that recreates haunted mansion and the stretching portrait like they have a prop that actually and then the kind of the ballroom sequence happens i mean so this is a structure of a show
Starting point is 00:42:55 i i glommed onto it because of this funny uh silly pirate thing but then i'm watching it like well this is a very good idea for a touring disney show yeah and i wonder yeah i wonder like it feels like they don't they wouldn't do this anymore is what i'm saying maybe i'm wrong but it feels like they're much more like probably synergy focused now and it'll all just be movie stuff and yeah i don't know yeah everything feels like it's watched like a hawk nowadays this feels like the tail end of like yeah and we're just you know doing this show and we you know we don't have that many people have to okay it but now it's like they've reorganized every company you know reorganizes so many times you know the structure but yeah yeah that's i think the stuff that i love out of any it's it's at the root especially of that coming out of their shells type thing where they
Starting point is 00:43:50 get so much stuff wrong and did it confuse me as a kid when like those turtles aren't like the turtles i know but i also loved it and i still love it when they like screw up big things this happened with mario a lot i feel like obviously the mario brothers movie this is this really ludicrous mario on ice thing with mr belvedere as as koopa that was an early viral video that was so great um but i like i might be in the minority on this but i love when they they like completely fuck up ip and the rules and the characters and it's all off oh yeah i mean i as a kid it's so i would that's one of the things i would love to have like a video of somebody interviewing me about that because i'm so fascinated to hear what i would
Starting point is 00:44:37 have said back then because obviously we all knew that when stuff didn't add up because there were multiple versions of everything mario then the movie like i interview like all of us being interviewed after just seeing the mario movie would have been fascinating and hilarious like hilarious yeah because i'm sure we were like like on the way home we were probably like just befuddled i remember being before like so confused by it but we weren't articulating it in any way but it would have been funny to try to get kids to explain like that wasn't it was that mario like that wasn't why was mario not mario that was a different one than the one that it's my one you learn like a lesson though i think as a kid like that it's like oh yeah i guess this is different i get like your brain just goes i guess this is different and then you accept it and it's
Starting point is 00:45:32 not that big of a deal it's a complaint sometimes i have with the marvel stuff is is it's so focused on making sure it's exactly like the same thread from every movie and every show and it's all the same and like it's like they're like just like doing that like they're they're so like uh uh like sticklers for that yeah and a part of me as a kid reading comics and there were four different ninja turtles i kind of miss the days when it's like you'd be your mom found a weird like european ninja turtles comic and it was like or that you're there were like the knockoff toys where like it was a dollar store and it was like you've seen all that like the the things on like
Starting point is 00:46:12 websites and buzzfeed where it's like the mutant hero not frogs that's whatever but like fake turtle stuff and there's something fun about that and even stuff i think i liked as a kid that there were like multiple versions of things yeah yeah i know i think we all appreciate the the like that they they didn't have the stranglehold on these things they couldn't control them yeah which you know leads to fun insanity and clashes and weird moments as happen in in this a little bit let me let me play a clip or two because um mike you mentioned the uh the regis performance we we've said we've we've been trying to piece together this incredibles ice show and it's tough to do for a bunch of camcorder footage but they did make a stop on regis and kelly and perform a little
Starting point is 00:47:06 mini version of it on a mini ice rink on the regis set which is very small to begin with i don't know how they crammed it all in but uh just you know this is where you maybe get the cleanest taste of syndrome and what sounds like jason lee right i think yeah i think it's the i think it's the same dialogue from the show itself yeah yeah so i'm cut down right um so here's a little piece of that and this is only seemingly available on youtube because it's on the youtube channel for something called easy glide 350 which might be like the kind of ice skates that they used or rink i was trying to i think it it's either ice skates or it's ice panels that you can set up ice rinks in very small spaces that's gotta be it yeah yeah yeah um that's that's a thing they would have to advertise
Starting point is 00:47:58 that's a pretty specialty uh function so um well it worked out great on uh regis and kelly's what's misspelled in the youtube label and thus regis and kelly's christ man special pretty good misspell i'd like to see christ man um i'd like to see mickey and minnie uh not square off against christ man no team up with christ man yeah team up with christ man is christ man on bible man as well it's not jesus doesn't show up it's his alter ego christ i am christ man it's just regular him in a robe yeah there in the beard but with a mask yeah the little uh burt ward mask well he shows up at the end and he's like what happened anything interesting sorry i'm running late and they're like you missed it christ man was here oh he was oh with his alter ego as a mild-mannered
Starting point is 00:48:55 uh okay here's here's a little clip of the show oh no mickey minnie's holiday phone has been ruined by an army of marching ice guys like soiling green troopers manhandling the mice good morning people my name is syndrome first out of a pile of presents a technically perfect robot copy of my former self oh that's right so they stick with incredibles mythology where syndrome is dead because he gets sucked into the plane right and because of his cape so this actually isn't syndrome it is a robot that perfectly recreates syndrome that syndrome like thought to make before he died yeah so i like that they're consistent also um this whole thing is doing the great stunt show type thing of the lip sync performance and syndrome is really strange like some characters
Starting point is 00:50:13 are just face characters but he has a big fake jay leno type chin like strapped to his regular face so you see his real mouth doing the lip sync but also like a big cartoon jaw is bouncing up and down it's uh yeah it's scary sorry yeah yeah yes yeah yeah i think the mix and that some of the pirates are like rubber guys i think is very funny um but not everyone on on the ice is anyway here sorry mice but there's only room for one beloved character in the world, and that's going to be me. You see, these cast members are about to be cast offs. Oh, gosh. So that's funny that they are so deep in parks lore that they use the term cast members.
Starting point is 00:51:00 And that they put that on this TV iteration where we have. I don't think the theme park element of it has come up at all that's not cast members also not something that's not a casual term is it i don't think i think it's weird to hear like a cartoon villain say and i don't think a child besides us knew the term cast member yeah in a regular fashion yeah also the way he said sorry mice sounded full of hate he is racist yeah yeah he's an angry guy he's a robot he's an angry robot guy well he gets his comeuppance because the incredibles come out but i'm going to skip that actually because what i'm more interested in is Frozone's appearance. And I think you'll hear why.
Starting point is 00:51:50 What? Oh, man. Looks like this is definitely a time to cheer. Blast him with an ice ray or something. No! To his coldest heart. Ha ha! To willing sacrifice all in love. I mean, that's mainly, so that's another thing about this show is that there's sporadic,
Starting point is 00:52:16 but not constant use of pop songs. Yeah. Like the pretty quick little blasts of it, kind of to a confusing degree, I would say. Yeah. That seems to be a degree, I would say. Yeah. That seems to be a reoccurring thing in all the Disney ones. Yeah. And so that's some of what I wanted to bring up about this show. And I have some other clips to show you guys.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Cold as Ice. Great. There's some other sequence where some explosive kind of stuff happens. And they use burning down the house. Great. But because it's 2005, things get a little 2005-y. And I was just really delighted by the use of this one song that you will hear now. So listen to the this is for Violet. And it highlights a particular power of hers.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Oh, by the word, that's wild. She's the incredible looking like force fields. And even this is weird. If she was invisible, then she could just watch you in the dark. um i mean that's that's it pretty much the uh i did you guys even remember what this song was i guess i texted you about it but i had to place it at first at first i was like is this a latter day backstreet boys song what is this song um and then remembered it was it was clay aiken this was right aiken's right i would not know i did not know that i it's familiar now
Starting point is 00:53:52 but yeah i that was the big that was clay's biggest hit right yeah yeah um yeah maybe the only like like big clay song um which has to be kind of oddly uh changed and recontextualized for this moment to just creating the bizarre lyrics um about a teenage girl if she was invisible then she could just watch you in the room just kind of, I mean, teenagers are weird. I would believe they would do something like that. The song is accurate, that's true. But it is an odd... Was Clay on Disney Records? Hollywood Records, do you think?
Starting point is 00:54:35 I don't think so. Unless, like, didn't everybody have to sign to, like, the same thing? Maybe not, though. I don't know. I have some questions in general. I mean, I don't think all of the music comes from Disney in this, and I'm sure it doesn't. Because what I'm driving to is a particular discovery that I found, a very odd rabbit hole that I went down. Because past, now we're starting to get weird with the songs.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Maybe you remember this Clay Aiken song. I was kind of delighted to hear it. But then the other songs are sort of strange the song dash gets is a billy joel song running on ice um kind of an odd choice um i think mr incredible gets a little moment with i'm too sexy because he's a big hunk that's great crowd pleaser but then the song for Elastigirl for Mrs. Incredible is a little strange. And let me pull that up.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Just see if you guys can place it. Think back to 2005. And if you have any memory of the song, let me time it up to, there's a fun little gag where she goes behind a door and then they pull her arms out and they stretch really far so that's fun this is this is a gag yeah this is what i was referencing earlier i gotta say though they missed an opportunity with violet where she could have skated behind the set piece and not
Starting point is 00:55:57 come out the other side and then just had the spotlight go around the ice as if she wasn't visible i feel like oh yeah that would have been a great kids would have loved that yeah yeah yeah and then like perfectly time it hopefully where the invisible one comes in and then the then the visible one appears yeah really um well they didn't do that but they did this and this this is the highlight of the show for me so let's just see if you remember this little ditty be human it's difficult to believe that you can move like that it's just a threat of
Starting point is 00:56:53 your abilities all interstellar baby this chip is out of control you're too flexible to be human any memories of that song of you're too flexible to be human i that that and the aiken song i'm like i've heard this tune before but i don't i can't place it yeah that's not late period michael jackson is? Kind of has that feel, sort of lazy.
Starting point is 00:57:25 It has that vibe, right? It's a little electro, not very good, not very catchy. What is that? Well, I think the answer is this is not a popular song at all. I'm pretty sure. Because upon Googling some of the lyrics, I discovered the original version, and it is from an artist named Jay Bigga. Here's Jay Bigga.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Oh my gosh. It is from his 2004 album, Laced Me Up. Did you make this parody cover? Like this looks fake. I'd like to think my Photoshop skills are superior to what we're looking at. That's true yeah this guy i mean any thoughts about this guy i was trying to think of a way to describe him to the listener i i think he looks like if robert pattinson had a wiener little brother just this
Starting point is 00:58:17 he looks like a toy he looks like a he looks like a little doll that's on one of my shelves he's kind of like a human woody a little bit yeah he's like portions are strange weird sideburns and pompadour yeah i i also thought i thought he looks a little like if like the cartoon doug was a person i think he might look like this guy he's too i think doug wouldn't have been this handsome no offense to doug yeah this guy's got i think dog wouldn't have been this handsome no offense to dog yeah this guy's got too much of an edge so jay big is a looker to you i mean important fact is that he is white this is a white guy and like a white rapper and now having heard the the disneyfied incredibles version here now is jay big as. You're too flexible to be human, which by the way,
Starting point is 00:59:06 on Spotify on YouTube is spelled Y O U R. It is. I think in the official release, they did not make it your with an apostrophe. So here's the original. You're too flexible to be human. You're too flexible to be human. You're too flexible to be human. It's difficult
Starting point is 00:59:27 to believe that you can touch it like that. It's just not natural what you can do with your tongue. Incredible. Your abilities are interstellar, baby.
Starting point is 00:59:42 This trick is out of control. You're too flexible so yeah because when i heard uh when i heard him say chick in the original lyric or the way when the disney singers say chick i'm like all right well something's up with this song and already it being a song about flexibility like this kid this is not a song made for this this has to be like a sex-oriented song which immediately was the discovery with jay bigga's version i i can't say i like it uh no no i i kind of like that um beat that video game kind of beat that comes in but i really really do not care for those vocals it's a poor man's becks hell yes it's a terrible hell yes yeah yeah it's really like titty cheap i i don't know what's going on here yes it's really bad yeah it sounds really bad like mixed poorly like all of it all across the board yeah what are you thinking like i don't
Starting point is 01:00:46 know i don't yeah how did the world align itself in this way where this where the the white rapper jay bigga's not popular song because there is not a music video for it uh none of this is popular on spotify this is not some like a thing of the era that i missed unless i am way off i the three of us have never heard of jay bigga so how did this sexy song about flexibility done in whatever proto pro tools how did this end up in a disney ice show performed in this grand studio singers kind of way they must have just googled the term not even google like combed through a searchable licensing music library found the word flexible because these are also all covers like right these disney ones yeah everything's a little same word yeah it's not the same version so it says
Starting point is 01:01:38 they're getting people to re-record it and truly someone or maybe someone in the office knew it and was just like did you say you need it something that said flexible i got a cd for you how do you not just write your own song because they now have to like now they're re-recording j bigga and censoring lyrics like in their version the singers just don't sing anything, thus omitting the lyric, it's not natural what you can do with your tongue. Like, why have they put Mrs. Incredible in the light of this, like, this chorpy white rapper dude? That's, I mean, look, there's a lot of, like, online lust for Mrs. Incredible these days.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Yes. Yeah, we know this. But it feels recent. i don't remember that happening i agree it feels recent uh but i don't know maybe this is like because it's really i mean it's if you're working at disney you go you know what we shouldn't do probably let's put the really fucking horny song in the incredibles part of or the incredibles ice show like you shouldn't do that for three-year-old this is for not even kids but for the littlest kids and i get it like no one's probably gonna understand no one's gonna look that song up especially no no i guess it didn't occur to anyone to like i really like this melody in these lyrics i'm gonna figure out what
Starting point is 01:03:01 this is but that being yeah like if there was a big jay big fan that was also like really worried about protecting the children which i guess could exist you know you in your private time as an adult you enjoy the work of jay bigga and you enjoy the different sexually explicit songs that he makes but you're very worried about your kids getting exposed to that type of content until they're of age so i could see that they're possible that's possible that somebody like that was in the audience yeah it might have people a kid might have like or might have been having some weird little feelings like like had the sense of like was thinking about bodies and flexibility and maybe i should look that up and yeah and now they're on now they're in the very explicit album laced me
Starting point is 01:03:47 up which you know only gets more explicit yeah laced me what other songs are on this uh i would love to tell you about the other songs yes um let's see there's use your tongue there's nasty one um there's three five seven which um wait let me look up the lyrics i don't have them in front of me but i remember noting uh three five seven by j big uh because there's like a uh oh yeah the parenthetical on that title is blanco machete um wait let me oh yeah the lyrics are you got me rock solid fondling my 357 which refers to like a gun that's like a gun shaft um so i'm so i'm gonna hit your tonsils with my blanco machete baby grip on the handle hold on a second here hold on one moment whoa whoa whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:04:49 You think that we've discovered all the ways to refer to penises, and then you end up at Blanco Machete. What is that? That might be one of the worst things you've ever said on the show. I think, yeah, I think that's more, that's upsetting, yeah. I'm looking this up. Is this a common phrase? Can't be. And and also being this is also i think nobody today is going to be proud of the like blanco part you know nobody's going
Starting point is 01:05:11 to like underline that as a feature of the machete um oh wait let me keep going though i mean hit your tonsils is kind of crazy but then it gets to uh baby grip on the handle of my 357 i'm going to split you up the middle with my blanco machete okay wait so there the gun is separate the 357 is a gun but it's not also a penis oh yeah wait a minute yeah there's a gun and a what do you call it is a machete a knife or it's not a sword it's a knife it's a knife it's large knife yeah i don't know yeah all right so there's a i like hatchet there's a there's a gun and a hatchet in play and contextually i think that they're both penises but um if if hypothetically some woman is gripping the handle of j big as 357 then how also can she be split
Starting point is 01:06:04 up the middle with his Blanca machete? So this is either very poor writing or we're missing something big here. Well, with there being a grammatical error in one of the song titles and the name of the album being Laced Me Up, which I don't...
Starting point is 01:06:21 Is that like part of a bigger sentence? Like she laced me? And what is laced me up referring to exactly what do you think is 2011 single is about it's called fucking wow he threw it all out the window that's a great cover he has a bed and kind of like godfather font over black but it's like a bed it's a bed at a hyatt like it's not a sexy bed notable bed his 2080p broken side and a much more interesting cover kind of of its time very you know photoshop that's a little cool yeah that's better than the than
Starting point is 01:06:59 the lace me up cover um lyrics in general very bizarre of blanco machete she's baking me loot cakes mommy that's something jason said come on that's a jason comment yeah that's all you've ever heard of that you bake me loot cakes mommy i go straight i go straight sometimes there's kind of a brill building in los angeles and it's not really you know you don't talk about a lot you know this is how you made money in college was ghostwriting lyrics for jay bigga yeah 2009 of course like everything else bottom fell out you know first thing to go wow sorry jay you're gonna have to write these yourself come up with your own colorful metaphors he scrounged some funds together got fucking
Starting point is 01:07:41 out in 2011 but i think people have moved on even just further in the lyrics of the one that disney used um i'm gonna load that body sexy body and pull the trigger um uh how you could reach back and handle it while the other hand was slapping it it's a it's a very explicit song and then just a couple of tracks away from away what are what are you here are you playing one of them hit jb you're a little bit of fucking yeah so uh let me just let me play one other i think my favorite track on the album no offense to you're too flexible to be human but i am a fan of uh pink chocolate here's a little bit of pink chocolate oh man oh i'm sorry i how could i make that error that was also you're too flexible to be human uh let me let me find now now let's go to the radically different pink chocolate. I love your pink chocolate smile.
Starting point is 01:08:47 And you try, try, try so hard. Pink chocolate. Head cocked to the side like let me in. So chocolatey, so chocolatey. Without Daisy Dukes and a pink chocolate grin. So chocolatey. Baby cameras rolling. Strip and I'll hit it.
Starting point is 01:09:04 I'm gonna make a pink chocolate finish. I know you're ready to bust it. Okay, just a minute. i keep wanting to hit the space bar and end it and then i keep not no he keeps me he's keeping me lasting i guess what does this mean what does this portend for the year 2022 this is where we're starting message for the past means that the year is going to be so chocolatey so i like that i like that this came an hour into the episodes we've been oh this is an interesting second gate oh it's fun to hear my friends talk my friends the three boys talk and then the last 15 minutes for these unpleasant songs from 20 years ago it was like little this like slimy white worm threatening to split us down the middle there's a lot of look i found a lot of material here and i have not obviously gone through this one of these seems to be a cover of katie perry's teenage dream oh no no i don't know i don't know if I should play it. But in his defense, in case things get weird at this point, there's another song.
Starting point is 01:10:09 And now I don't know if I have the lyrics in front of me, but there is a song where he asks somebody for ID to make sure that everything's on the up and up. And the ID shows that the girl has just turned 18. So now they're going to hit it and spit it or whatever the hell well i'm impressed you found that because the mix on all of these has been unlistenable and i have to read lyrics i can't let him speak for himself because you can't hear he can't make them out it's all like like because he's up here when i found it and gonna find a yeah and then all the music is like there's no low end there's no high end yeah it's really wow I I finally read that big article that went around at the end of 2021 of like why is music
Starting point is 01:10:55 or why is dialogue and movies so hard to understand nowadays and there's all these different reasons and stuff but I'm like oh everything seems crystal clear thomas already bane seems crystal clear compared to these songs yeah i mean look it's a there's a real finesse to this type of material i mean scott and i are big prince fans yeah that's a man who could write an innuendo song or a song that might be provocative but it wouldn't make you uncomfortable yeah i want starfish and cough like i want something a little bit back i mean i think look jay big i'm sure has his audience he's still posting on soundcloud so i mean some of you might be big fans and i'm not trying to say you can't be what if he's listening what if weirdly
Starting point is 01:11:41 like oh yeah anytime we ever talk those theme parks yo anytime i love taking a ride on the teacups that's it i feel like that's not dirty enough that what you just said like riding my tongue around the teacup i gotta lick all the liquid out of the teacup why don't you pee into these cups yeah that's good great yeah he's a pee guy for sure definitely i think we can all agree jay bigga is a pee guy based on what we've heard so far it's reasonable to assume i love to pee i want classier filth like aerosmith's pink okay that's a classier dirty song you know and that that also by the way plays in disney world so i guess j bigga maybe is just following
Starting point is 01:12:35 the precedent set by aerosmith at the rock and roller coaster when they would play they would blast their song pink they are okay in general with people exploring areas that involve pinkness. But I still don't. I mean, I don't, Pink Chocolate, like, am I crazy for not, am I being a real good boy here and not? I don't think it is clear what, just think about what chocolate dyed pink is and then think about sex and i don't i can't think of what is like pink chocolate i mean i have some guesses i have some
Starting point is 01:13:11 guesses too i don't know i i can see why i didn't take off i'd rather jason said it than i did but but i have a thought or two i don't know if i'm right look he might be listening we're just trying to figure a mile we're just like just exploring jay if you're listening we're just we're we're analyzing here yeah yeah and please don't turn your 305 on us begging you or your blanco machete use those things for good for pink chocolate exploration not for violence yeah stop frozo or stop syndrome help frozen frozo and stop syndrome yeah did the disney on ice people hear the full album did anyone listen to the entire or how about this possibility that some disney executive was possibly like the the parent of jay bigga and that's how he was able to finance his record laced me up to begin with it's possible very possible yeah there was like you know what we could do my son he could really stand some money for books and yeah he's so expensive he is by the way i
Starting point is 01:14:29 think i did some math based on his wikipedia when he's asking for a girl's id to make sure she's 18 i don't think he's 18 based on like somewhere i saw and unless the the birth year is not accurate on what i saw this seems like a double standard from Jay. Pull up on the Enterprise. Can you rent this car for me? He's playing a character. He's embodying a character. Slim, shady before him.
Starting point is 01:15:00 What he's doing is he's playing an older creep. He's not the young creep in real life he was when he was recording this he's an older creep who's put in a position where he might be around underage women so it used to take so long for stuff to come out he would know like well you know by the time he gets mixed and mastered and everything i'll be an old creep, you know? Right. I would like to take these. If I could get just the stems, if I could get the tracks of this, I could do a couple remixes, I think.
Starting point is 01:15:32 And maybe McGruff would throw a verse or two down. Watch your mouth, kid. Pink chocolate, I don't know about that. How about regular chocolate? delicious snack gives me energy for the day to take a bite out of crime but i'm a dog i can't eat it uh so yeah man well there's so many questions this is this is an impossible question to answer. Is it not? Is this a thing? Could we send an email to Jim and Len and see? I mean, the answer is yes, and I will.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Do we want to expose them to this filth? I kind of think we should. I kind of think these are the best guys in the game. These are the minds. These are the detectives to put on the case. And I think we, I wonder because jim has the extensive file i wonder if we could get to the bottom of how this song ended up in the show uh-huh yeah maybe i was a jay bigga fan actually polka dot polka dot daisy dukes and a pink chocolate grin
Starting point is 01:16:38 that's it exactly i mean god bless it if we can get that jay bigga's legal name i that that's a place where we can start and just start looking up you know right connections and records and stuff i mean even just asking guy selga who has a lot of this i bet i bet we can figure it out i bet if we ask somebody to do the work we can find out that's what i think i mean i think we could be in communication with j bigga by the end of the hour if we wanted to be i think that's true but he like he might just have the answer like why is your song and maybe because it's fly because the song is fly like that might be be it. It was so fucking dope. Disney had to hit it and Jay Bigga had to split it.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Jim and Len going through all these lyrics is maybe my dream podcast of all time. I mean, I would love them to recite all of it. Certainly. That is maybe, that would be the greatest podcast of all time. Bar none. I'm about to make your pink chocolate famous what a note we're starting the year on you didn't even know what you walked into i didn't know i was just like here's a funny twitter joke and then we now we ended up deep in the land of pink chocolate i was gonna make a joke like my brain is mush
Starting point is 01:18:06 until like the 10th and i don't think this is correct at that usually something snaps me back into reality no you know it's going to last longer because of the circumstances of the world you might be back to normal at the end of february i oh yeah oh yeah we'll see uh uh yeah i don't know i a main feed something to focus on something to research on a mate uh you know yeah that'll that'll get you right back that'll get me that'll get me back to something we'll never bring this up again we'll certainly never bring up any of these terms in these songs again yeah these aren't to haunt us like a ghost. I'm sorry. It's too late now.
Starting point is 01:18:46 This is the year of the Blanco machete. There's nowhere to go. All right. Let's just turn this car around. No episodes this year. Sorry, everyone. See you in 2023. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Hold on a second. We got to figure out what celebrity liqueur is going into this cocktail known as the blanco machete um so there you have it i mean i didn't think we'd get here from this one but i knew that the image was uh profound and i knew it was going to lead us to something to pirate treasure and but the pirate's name was jay bigga and he is the treasure he's on the lookout for his pink chocolate and much like pirates he wields a big sword man i don't even know i am out of i am out of gas yeah i'm we can end it here i isn't there i am not exactly exploding with uh facts about like well and then it made it to kansas city i think we can be done
Starting point is 01:19:46 with this episode about this one gif i posted i mean look it's a wide look this is a wild this is wild i'm just it's crazy i don't know what to say all right well we'll pull ourselves together and we'll get a little more professional if we can by the time we're back on the main feed for now you survived podcast the ride the second gate um i what i what can i say now i feel uh but my apologies i guess but we're sorry we had to start somewhere and this is where we started we'll be back on the main feed uh in a little bit might still be a second but this is a little treat because you you know you went you went a couple of weeks without us and now you're wondering maybe should i go a couple more weeks still without them it might be yeah it might be nice nice little break longer break um should i should we go out we could like roll the dice on a jay biggest song
Starting point is 01:20:46 as the outro like one that i haven't vetted yeah i mean i guess you could try sure have the the katie perry cover loaded up oh i had it well i had it uh i can get it back um see if you can unless i can find one off of laced me up but again just as we search for whatever we're going to play keep in mind this music is fully vetted and approved by the walt disney company all to be played in front of three-year-olds jay bigga is a proud member of the disney family he's a legend disney legend yeah they're giving it to him next year. Really excited for him. Let's see. Yeah, I got it.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Here's the full album on YouTube, and it's got 16 views. It's our new lyrics. I was going to say I prefer the original. Don't forget, I feel so lucky These are new lyrics. When the heat comes around Around I was going to say I prefer the original. Wait, hold on. Let's get to the chorus first. I guess, but I confess She's the best thing that I've got in it She's better than ice cream
Starting point is 01:21:58 And BC-13 And tight jeans And yeah, I guess she's better than sex Let's go She's better than sex?'s go He's better than sex? Yeah you heard him I have sex with her? You heard him
Starting point is 01:22:10 You and I Still mixed badly Dumped inside And we'll roll And burn Make me feel like I'm living In a cage Where the ladies do me i mean that's i don't know do we want more i'm good i think we're good yeah all right stay subscribe please please
Starting point is 01:22:45 I'm sorry stay subscribe and we'll do one without Jay Bigas soon happy new year forever dog this has been
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