Podcast: The Ride - UNLOCKED-The Fabio Goose Incident

Episode Date: June 4, 2021

Enjoy this sample of P:TR-The Second Gate.  Available at Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide March 30, 1999 Busch Gardens Williamsburg Fabio Lanzoni, model and erstwhile margarine pitchman, takes a ride on a brand new roller coaster. And has a close encounter with a goose. But what really happened that day? We take a closer look. Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 Hey, it's Podcast The Ride, the second gate. We're here. We're talking about a very exciting topic. My name is Mike Carlson. Jason Sheridan here along with me.

You just jumped right into it. I was caught off guard. All this as if I was going 73 miles per hour on a first drop of a hypercoaster. And you got hit with something that was living. Scott Gerner here as well. Yeah. This topic is so interesting. It'll have you saying, I can't believe it's not the main feed.

Oh, yeah. See, because he endorsed, I can't believe it's not butter. I kind of had that in my head on the way over, and I didn't have it ready to go when you started. And maybe I shouldn't have said it at all. I think it's good. I mean... I think it makes you sound very professional like a newspaper reporter in 1999.

Oh, everyone had a field day. Yeah. We're talking... This was a dream come true for all these writers. Everyone thought they were so funny. Okay, okay, all right. Oh, no. Shit, Boston Globe already said uh all right already

said dr goose of uh what else can we um i mean you already called him a bird brain did anyone say did anyone say he laid an egg or anything that's kind of a stretch to goose to geese lay eggs they have to right that laid the golden yeah of course yeah yeah take a gander at fabio's face that's too good like that's too much of a i added a related topic it's funny they having a had a few journalism classes in college they do kind of teach you how to write that like funny little like you know you were we've talked a little bit about this but you did some journalism in college i looked for like the first year and a half or so of college before i switched majors and right and i that turned out to be very uh very good foresight on my part because the industry slowly dying like newspapers they were already dying at the time you may not like comedy no yeah you're set no as are we all

i love to laugh still laughing could never there's no way that the laughing bubble could implode you had to make calls though right to a to a agent to confirm like a story in college yeah a lot of uh papers use uh the interns as fact checkers uh yeah i and i i at the philadelphia weekly which is now closed uh i was fact checking the horror scopes because the horror scopes were a funny little mash-up of like tabloid gossip and uh horror scopes i think we've talked about this before but what did you call you called an agent to confirm something about sandra bullock's agent to confirm a question about her and jesse james and they were not happy to speak to me uh oh yeah they just gave you the general agent's

number you just had to like you ended up calling an assistant of who you'd call to try to get her in a movie. E, okay, here was the path. E used to catalog who represented everyone. The website for the network E. Weird. That got me to UTA or William Morris. And then I looked up their website. I called the general line. They connected me to that agent's assistant.

The assistant connected me to the agent. Because the assistant connected me to the agent because i said it was from the philadelphia weekly which sounds legit it was a good paper word winning paper and the person was so annoyed and what i had found was the horoscope writer had used news stories from that week the year prior so they were they were like going too fast and pulled a year old tabloid thing. Oh. And this was you were asking like, did he cheat? Did Jesse cheat? I think it was before that.

It was so innocuous. And they were so rightly so. They were rightly annoyed to be speaking to this 19 year old. Is Sandra still committed to her hubby or are her eyes wandering the the thing they hated the most is like my stock was my stock like line was like i am from the philadelphia weekly it's a uh you know a weekly newspaper in philadelphia pennsylvania and they went i know where philadelphia is and i was like okay all right that wasn't it's not yeah that wasn't a shot at you philadelphia it's a it's a city uh you might have heard there's

buildings there those are big tall houses basically you weren't explaining that degree of no you weren't condescending no it on it i was just going by like form by like stock like introduce yourself in this way so people don't so you're clear so you are clear that you are from a newspaper I know where Philadelphia is I fly over it all the time so yeah this person owes you an apology

I don't know who this was Ari Emanuel maybe it would have been great if it was ari who was the editor-in-chief screaming at though ovitz could it be ovitz do you remember the name i don't remember the name but you would have remembered if it was ari right oh yeah okay yeah uh well we'll have to look into who sandra bullock's agent was in 2005 okay so if we can web.archive if we can use the wayback machine to go to the old e-web website that's very good um uh well your journalism skills yes would have come in handy in crafting the perfect pun about today's topic, which now has been...

Okay, we've teased it now a couple times on the show recently, and we decided, let's skip this one up in the queue. Let's get to it ASAP. Now, this first came up on... Well, maybe we should just say the basics of what happened. I'm sure everyone knows this, but basic facts. Fabio was on a roller coaster, and when he came back, his face was all bloody because on the way, he got hit in the face by a goose. Yes.

Sub details. This was at Busch Gardens Williamsburg. Williamsburg. And the first it ever came up on the podcast is we did an episode about the park king's island in ohio with dave ferguson and he seemed pretty confident that the fabio goose incident happened there and we didn't really seem right to us and and we i think we debunked it maybe during the episode or soon after, but I didn't know where it was necessarily. We all know the image.

The image is as striking now as JFK Jr. waving goodbye to his father. It's an indelible image from the 20th century, pretty much moon landing in that. A lot. I felt like I was brushing sand off like a map or something in a hidden temple it's like more and more was revealed reading because this is very well documented specifically it was apollo's chariot the ride was apollo's chariot it was the opening of apollo's opening the inaugural ride so first ride on this they obviously had a test ride but this was the

first open to the public ceremonial test ride done because it was like themed after the greek gods so they got on a dawn i got a god looking guy i want to say maybe roman because the i think it's in a rome area there's a rome area i think it's even called like roma rapids something. Roman Rapids, yes. Yeah, okay. The wettest ride maybe in the country. My mom got so wet on the Roman Rapids once, she bought a whole new outfit to change into at the gift shop at the exit.

It is, it's glues in my family's mind. It's like how wet you would get on this roller coaster. But I hope she didn't buy you new socks. You don't want new socks so you're in a wetter water ride i've been wearing open toe shoes uh socks wet baby yeah uh they uh he was surrounded by women in white dresses essentially like togas who were what would you call them they're like um like nymphs or uh i guess i I don't know. Did they really flesh out the universe of what they were going for? They look like... I mean, it's

a harem, you might say. Maybe, but not dissimilar to what what's-her-name in Hercules is dressed like. Yeah. I mean, really, it's like the chorus in Hercules. The Greek chorus, yes. Or like Kid Icarus, if you imagine what he is

wearing. That's true. That's white. I appeared once on Craig Ferguson as a Greek and hercules the greek chorus yes or like kid icarus if you imagine what he is wearing that's that's true i appeared once on craig ferguson as a greek chorus oh i remember that yeah about a decade ago wow anyway you know about this i know exactly about this you know how difficult it would have been if some if someone had gotten hurt before and there was blood all over your uniform, whatever you want to call it. Your drapes. My drapes. I know Fabio was 38 years old when this happened. He's 6'3".

Yeah, I know the people around him, because of the way blood splatter occurs, some of them got a little bloodied, a little Fabio blood. Behind them. them now there's there's a view that i don't i don't have it handy but we'll try to tweet it there's the there's the photos that we kind of know where it's the car is arriving back to the station and as the camera zooms oh my god there's blood all over his face and in that view

you can tell that it got on the women behind him um there's another view that i hadn't seen which is on a drop itself yeah it's really funny in that view seeing a full car of goddesses whatever you want to call them all dressed identically except for one guy in the third row is just a regular guy and fabioio, who presumably is part of this, as you said, because he resembles a god. But he isn't dressed in like a Herculean face. He doesn't look like Herculean. He's just in like a denim shirt. Not for the ride.

There was clearly some sort of ceremony where they gave him a cape and a sword. And he clearly took that off. Right. yeah okay but he was even still wasn't he just wearing that over like yeah yeah yeah like slacks in a shirt it was probably more money to get him into the full outfit it was probably some sort of a negotiation don't you think yeah where it was like obviously they wanted arnold you would want arnold and it's like well his price especially 99 is too too high yeah and it's like okay fabio there's a negotiation well will he wear the hercules outfit no he won't well this is how much we have to pay will he hold a sword and a shield with his denim shirt on yes

he will do that okay great we got him there like read an essay on medium where someone was like so you have to remember that they would have had to yeah negotiate all that they would have had to fly him in probably to this airport get him to williamsburg put him up probably the embassy suites is like the nicest thing in williamsburg probably the night before so that he's you don't have to worry about getting in the morning of you want everything to be on time it's like and giant production and people really stressed out just like stressed out okay can i get you anything we have plenty of plenty of sodas all over the park uh t-shirts if you want

yeah all of that and then all of that happens only for this to happen all of that goes down and then you get literally a freak accident yeah truly um it's too bad he didn't bring the sword on the ride because it might have been it would have saved defense yeah i don't know the sharpness of the sword but if he'd somehow seen it coming and gotten ahead of it and could have sliced the bird in half i guess blood would still be in the equipment you might have had more splatter on the goddesses in the background right but it would have been bird blood not fabio blood well do we know this do we know that it's not bird blood well he did get cut so it has to be at least some of his blood yeah oh that's a

good point yeah i didn't really think about do you have information about what blood was i do let's keep talking okay i'll save what i what i think maybe i didn't see what we were talking about of what the twist is here uh local news network uh has all of these clips online. Very well documented. Again, well documented by the traditional mainstream media, including a poor rep from Six Flags who assured everyone, we have other roller coasters that are in or sit in or near the water and no one has ever been hit by a goose in the face. Those were her exact words now we should say but one of the reason probably why this came up initially

was because we just covered uh the world's tallest roller coaster is that right we just king to car king to car right tallest no longer fastest no longer fastest uh and there there was a very similar incident where a guy now we've recorded this a little while ago but a guy a kid was hit in the face by a pigeon by a pigeon that he describes as having just exploded just demolished right um i don't know how the goose fared i don't know if the goose just burst or if uh or if it was did a body fall to the ground or was it was it just completely toast yeah i don't know this one i was interested well anyway i don't know which if we're getting too far ahead i was interested this one actually went down a little differently than i thought and reading about it so maybe you have more up too yes yeah yeah it was on the first drop which is i think is for the point of view

that you can see like from this one photo that i'm i'm describing um well maybe this is a good point this is a good point to say i don't know if we have overlapping information yeah let's let's just do it let's get to it jason uh you mentioned that medium article um the the media there is this is a great article about it that put that pointed out a couple a couple of interesting things you didn't realize including that he points out imagine if you were on this if you were at this press event and the coaster is new no one knows the coaster especially there's like on one side is all photographers and videographers. And on the other side are children who are waiting to take the second ride.

And imagine, like, I wonder what's going to happen on this roller coaster. And then it pulls back up and Fabio is covered in blood. Fabio looks like Steve Austin at WrestleMania 13. Bleeding out in the sharpshooter from bret hart crimson they call it a crimson mask just it's a very horrifying look do you know a picture i'm talking about i know what you're talking yeah uh sometimes if i get like too worked up about treats and needs like you start bleeding from the head I start getting crimson masks when podcasting You just stress bleed from the head I leave it all on the field brother

Like this is if you can see this Scott Here's Steve Austin Oh my I mean face blood is so upsetting Face blood yeah here's a better picture of it We shall put a side by side with Fabio and Steve Austin It does look like he scored his face well that's what you yeah it's we we must have talked before about blading in wrestling you call it

blading is when you take a razor blade and you make a little cut on your forehead in order to have that blood happen because it's not super painful there's not a lot of nerves up there it's not too painful but it does bleed a lot yeah yeah it's very theatrical it looks crazier than it looks great feels it's gonna fucking irritate your eyes if you get blood in your eyes but they've made a lot they've really like cut way down on that in wwe from just from watching and it doesn't happen a lot but it is funny because relatively to what a lot of moves wrestlers take i feel like are very dangerous on the back and spine but it's like no we can't

have them nick their forehead anymore yeah like relatively speaking a lot of what they do is i in my opinion more dangerous than having a little cut on the forehead but because it's so crazy looking it looks so much more upsetting but yeah they get their if they can get their skull bashed as often as they want yes uh and mike what's the term for if you uh start bleeding out of your head but you from actually being like hit cut the hard way i believe is what you're looking for fabio got it the hard way for sure well we don't know scott has shed some mystery on this let me yeah let me let me bring this up uh what i brought up that medium article again is that there's a there's an important part of uh this article that inspired some thinking from me uh the quote uh in dissecting

all the ins and outs of this incident this medium writer said how there hasn't been a where are they now or podcast or oral history of this day, I will never know. Now, as for podcast, we're doing it, baby. We're doing it. We're in it. You got your wish. 2000. Man, we're doing it, we should say, like right around 21 years to a week that this incident occurred.

This article was written on the 20th anniversary, which I can't believe it's been that long. This doesn't feel that long ago. Yeah. I mean was this was right on the cusp of the millennium i i have some we'll get to it later i have some like what was going on in the world this week like stuff okay yeah i have a couple i have a couple of things like that too oh neat i'm excited for a time capsule but it it's a it does feel to me like a perfect metaphor for the 90s ending and running face first into the millennium like and of course we can't of course we'll discuss how the fabio goose incident uh factors into 9-11 how it what it means before in a pre 9-11 time this was a little bit of levity during the Clinton impeachment.

Oh, is that what was happening? Period. I think that was a month later. Wait, that was all wrapped up by... No, no, no, it was 99. That was still going. Oh, that's right. Okay, okay.

We'll take a trip backwards. But when I read that and I was like, okay, well, I'm excited because we're doing this podcast. But then I thought, what we're doing right now, three guys riffing about the fabio goose incident is not what this guy wants yeah what he wants is a full is a serious npr serial kind of investigation into this incident and i realized that just with a little bit of backdrop, that that's exactly what we could give him. And here. We all know the story, or at least we think we do.

Fabio goes on a roller coaster and gets hit in the face by a goose. But what if that isn't the whole story? What if Fabio wasn't hit by a goose at all? What if for the last 20 years, we've all been caught in the world's biggest game of duck-duck goose, and the truth has been chasing us in circles this entire time? For National Podcast Thread Radio, I'm Scott Gairdner. This is Goose Chase.

All right, and now we've set the scene. I was wondering if we could just do the whole thing like this well here's okay if you have anything to say and you would like the serious marimba music okay to make this feel more like just call for it and i'll pull it right back up sure uh and i don't do i don't set the serial tone for no reason because i do think something you think something's up here interesting yes uh i started here. You know what? I'll bring it back right away to say this. As I started watching the footage, I saw something that I'd never seen before.

As the coaster started going up the first lift hill and it got out of the point of view that we've all seen in the video, there was something on the front of the coaster car. A camera. seen in the video there was something on the front of the coaster car a camera if this footage has been played over and over again by news shows comedy shows why have we never seen the point of view of the camera mounted to the coaster as the goose exploded on fabio's face i started to wonder it got me thinking so i did some digging and i can't keep up that tone i'm getting wrapped up in it honestly yeah call tell me if you want the backdrop i'm not even here again can i tell you what i read and then you can go sure yes from what i can tell and jason

correct me if i'm wrong the official story they've put out is that a goose hit the front of the car and then like ricocheted off into fabio's head i came across that as well i have not this is really no idea yeah because what you were describing is different than what fabio himself describes interesting yeah so i think mine was like a post the new york post article i was reading okay yeah okay so ricocheted off the front of the car the front of the roller coaster then hit him in the head okay so the body bounces back onto him yes onto his face um and that in this story you'd have to think that what's on his face is a combination of goose blood and Fabio blood.

I'm trying to remember now. They definitely mentioned he had swelling from getting hit. And I'm pretty sure someone said something about a cut, but I was always under the impression that it might be like a little blood and then it was the goose as well. Okay. Uh, all right. Well, I, to me, the camera was the key to the entire thing and i've noticed that in a lot of the edits of this footage that truly you're watching it and the coaster starts

to leave and you don't see the camera but like why have we never seen what's on that it's that seems like that would solve the entire thing and that footage would be like the most popular footage in the world to see yeah a goose just turned to dust um why haven't we seen this and uh and i think i know why because i kept digging a little bit just if you keep going down in the youtube results for fabio goose roller coaster uh you get you hear an interview with him that's not entirely about this incident but that's partially about this incident it's from Australian

television about I don't know maybe four or five years ago so all right listen to this this clears up a lot

and I think it throws a wrench into the entire story interesting this is the twist one of the goose hit the camera the video camera the camera, the video camera, and a piece of video camera barely slashed the bridge of my nose.

Now I have to do other, you know, 10 minutes upside down with my head down. And blood going everywhere. Yeah, because, you know, it's like most of the blood is in your head. But I wasn't hurt. I was pissed because they wanted to cover their butt. So they go, okay, if the goose hit my butt. Interesting. Interesting. Easy. Now, wait a minute but that contradicts because there was an interview with Fabio

not too long after the incident where he has said it wasn't a freak accident and it's going to happen again and I cannot you said it wasn't a freak accident? it wasn't a freak accident it was not he's saying it wasn't a freak accident it wasn't a freak accident it was not he's saying it wasn't a freak accident and it's going to happen again and i cannot live with my conscience

knowing that the ride is still running and maybe a person or even a child can be killed now killed did not happen nobody paula's chariot has now been running safely for over 20 years 20 years no incident and also no other from what i saw incident of a bird hitting someone on a different bush gardens no no um but let's let's unpack this what he has just said uh his at least according to this story at least how he sees things today the the goose did not hit fabio and it did not hit the coaster car either the goose hit the camera who put the camera there bush gardens put the camera there right and if we were able to see the footage from that camera, we would see plainly no goose. Now, he brings up another

thing. If the goose had just hit Fabio straight in the face, that is an act of God. And I started analyzing, I was looking at other, uh, I started looking at other articles and video and over and over again, Busch Gardens

representatives said, act of god act of nature act of god interesting why did they keep pushing the story did they have something to hide i'm sky gardener this is goose so they do get out there right away interesting with that act of god thing right because that makes it not their fault But if it's a coaster car that they and the probably even if it's a coaster car or or the camera, then that does make it their fault, I believe. Well, it's interesting, though, because wouldn't you still consider if a goose hits the camera and the camera hits you? That is still an act of God. It's not like the camera camera the camera alone falling apart and hitting him is them not securing it correctly maybe may and he also i believe says that the

camera split in half uh i forget if that was in that clip so i i think maybe i think there's something to be said for if the camera was not installed properly or if there hadn't been a camera at all i i like i i think he could be wrong and i don't i don't know the legalities here this is raising a lot of questions for me because broadcast quality cameras back then were kind of built like a brick like they were pretty they weren't super delicate. The other thing, though, is there's no way Busch Gardens just has this quality of camera laying around. I would assume they would rent it from somewhere or they would have a production, a video production company they would work with. But what is the story we've already talked about with Robert Reed making sure that a camera was mounted correctly on a roller coaster? Remember this?

That was at King's Island. At King's Island. Robert Reed. If he had not been there to say, we have to run a test on this, the camera would have killed the entirety of the Brady Bunch. Right. Robert Reed, Mike Brady at a promotional appearance at king's island so i'm just saying he had he proved them wrong that they hadn't done a good job securing a camera back then i'm saying it's always possible well i think sloppiness is always possible yeah i want

to know yeah whose camera is it whose rig is it oh you're right wait a minute this does not they presumably bush gardens does not own this camera they aren't in the camera rental business now they could have the rig i think it would make sense to buy a rigging device yeah to put on a roller coaster they'll use that over and over again to promote different attractions sure yeah yeah and maybe and i don't think it's a rig problem i think it's a camera problem either way i do find this interesting that the goose didn't hit fabio i don't think any of it is goose blood i think that's all fabio it's possible so i i'm on this dailypress.com and this is what they say they say a good and it's Pretty much what I was saying a goose Uh who would have been nesting

Nearby flew into the path of the Speeding coaster car best anyone Can tell me this Best anyone can tell the goose Hit the front of the car breaking its neck The bird's carcass then flipped upward Striking Fabio on the bridge of his nose And causing a cut that would later require three

Stitches no bones were broken but there was some swelling. Turns out that was the extent of it. He wasn't hurt too bad, and he was a good sport about it. The women riding with him took some splatter, which is what happens when a bleeding man with an open wound rides in an open car at high speeds. Wow, wow. The fact that there's different,

we're hearing different stories from the American press, from the Australian press. Fabio is saying saying different things it's almost like you have to start analyzing now who owns these papers what do they have to gain yeah from bush gardens williamsburg let me look okay let me do a little bit of better looking now because again i'm a wrestling fan i know what a cut from it's funny that you brought all that up. Yeah, because a little part of a camera slicing his forehead is exactly what would have happened to... I don't know if that's what happened to Steve Austin in that incident. But Vince is bleeding or whatever.

That's probably something similar to a camera piece. Yes. I mean, I assume you have. It's glass, especially. They don't cut themselves with glass. They cut themselves with a little razor blade uh at least usually there's been some death matches where they use uh glass we don't know if this was glass we don't know if it was like a a filter what's that what are those shade filters on cameras called oh i know yeah yeah i

know what you're talking about i can't think of the name there's there is this one picture with this woman right behind him who's covered in his blood it's like which is i feel like a comedy movie tv trope now where you get like a spray or you're saying and blast yes yeah yeah uh and she just looks so sad she doesn't even look like horrified she just looks sad and she's covered in fabio's blood yeah i mean it looks like it's coming from, it looks like it's maybe on his nose or no, no, no. I take that back. It's on his cheek. Yeah.

The swelling is on his cheek, but perhaps there's a little cut on his nose as well. Cause that does look like where the origin of the blood is. But you could see like, I guess if a goose hit, the beak is sharp. Yeah. The beak could cut you. And I guess if a goose hit, the beak is sharp. Yeah. The beak could cut you. Mm-hmm. And I guess anything, hmm. Well, the fact that we have two stories now where it was not the goose,

and think about how big a goose is. I think a goose would have done some serious damage. I think he'd be way more bruised. Well, I think for sure the goose wasn't full-on hitting him in the head. That's what we always thought it was. But if the goose hit't full-on hitting him in the head that's what we always thought it was yes but if you if the goose hit the front of the let's okay the theory that the goose hit the front of the car then hit fabio it would it would be decreasing in speed right like if if the goose was going full flight speed and fabio was coming down the hill at the same

speed i think that would be a worse incident than if the goose is slowed by a bounce. It's a second bounce. He's getting hit by a bounce. Yeah. Goose. I think we can all determine it is not, he was not hit by a first bounce goose.

Fabio was not the first bounce. Jason, you're advocating for it's a second bounce. Well, I'm saying that- You think the goose was a second bounce? I think the second bounce, they talked to a bird expert one of the news clips talks to a bird expert and they're like well they're lucky a goose is pretty soft i'm gonna go ahead and and go reach out that birds have hollow bones so a little a little so

there's some softness added there but had had he had the goose eaten recently, that impacts the weight as well. Yeah. If he's got like a full rat inside of him or if he's searching for food, that definitely impacts the weight. Wait, you're applying a scenario where a goose eats a full rat? A goose eats a rat. Yeah. Goose eat, I know a lot about animals. That's the story I want to hear on NCR.

He eats rats, right? I don't know. What do they eat? Berries, nuts, leaves, I think. Maybe small things. Why not? I don't really have teeth. Gummy a full rat.

Goose gummy a full rat. It dissipates inside its body. There's no chewing involved. Okay, I have a picture here of him bloody on the coaster, and we should be able to see if the camera's there or not. Let me see here. Well, the camera's there. You can watch that in the AT footage.

But he said, what did he describe it as? It split in half? You're talking about, oh, after the... Oh, wait. When it came back. Right. I'm saying we should be able to see if there if the camera looks like it was damaged i have a photo here but it's not there's not a good high res of it but he's bloody

already so we should and it's a pretty good view if i can find a higher res picture of it uh side issue okay well we're unpacking that but i've just Googled do geese eat rats, and yes, they do. Perhaps babies might be a baby. I don't know if they could gum up a full rat, but according to poultrypages.com. But now who's funding poultry pages? Wait, so that's saying they could or they couldn't eat them? They do eat baby rats. Oh, baby rats. Okay, yeah.

Well, they don't haves of gumming a baby rat i'll yeah that makes sense between us baby poultry pages uh jeff bezos owns poultry pages now he purchased it the poultry pages employees uh write for three dollars an article and uh it's a tough lie they're only allowed to go to the bathroom. There is Epstein black book entry for poultry pages. So that adds another ring. Poultry pages had so many positive articles about Epstein. This picture is too low res for me to be able to tell what's wrong. I mean, I have a picture of it's right here.

That's it. Okay. I can't tell. Oh, it's so pixelated. I know. I'm trying to see if there is a lot like if you guys watch the documentary about the the guy getting uh acquitted of murder because he was on camera in a curb your enthusiasm episode yes yeah and they needed higher resolution cameras to prove his in it because the regular stadium cameras weren't going to do this is where we're at we need better and there were so many cameras filming the whole thing right why have we only been given this is what i'm asking why have we

only been given the one ap feed and why have we never seen there if there was a camera maybe the camera was damaged so we wouldn't be able to see that footage well i think i so uh i okay i think there's a couple reasons on this one probably some local outlets had footage uh but the ap wire was probably going to syndicate a lot of it yeah um that's where the more local yeah like fox uh you know fox in las vegas or whatever uh is is cutting down from the ap footage yeah so i mean i mean this very quickly shifted from like minor celebrity novel celebrity news to like the oddly enough section or in the case of the uh free press the uh newspaper uh a1 like front page front and center for the local paper, a reporter who was there wrote an article about their experience. Mm-hmm.

And 20 years later, they did a retrospective last year. Oh. And he said, me, I did okay that day. I went to Busch Gardens with a story that was slated to run on the bottom of page B2, and I came back with an A1 centerpiece that moved on the national wires that story would take third place in that year's virginia press association judging for spot news stories so what was first this day what beat him half jokingly describe it as one of the greatest days of my journalistic career so like suffering and these poor women getting blood on their face

this is a death merchant. This third place Virginia news winner. If it bleeds, it leads. If it bleeds, it leads. He's praying. This guy's praying for the Iran war now. He wants chaos. Okay, so here's Fabio on a throne.

So this is the ceremony where he's got. I've never seen this. Yeah, that's him in the ceremony. He's in like a throne and he has a cape with the khakis and the jeans well this is great to see yeah this is when it was just okay so here they're getting on the ride now he is first of all i always thought he was always 50 he's 38 years old here he's not far away from our ages oh my god it's like a different species there's still time start growing your hair up

the lift hill start getting jacked i will get jacked i want to take hgh i've been dying to this i haven't seen this footage honestly okay so this footage cut out the part where there is a camera in the front i think they're avoiding there's the drop from behind it should happen oh it should happen right there it has happened here here. But there's that camera. Where is it now? Yeah, hold on. Let's see if there's any wider shot from it. He's obviously upset. Everyone is like worried and confused. We should have it right here.

There's the camera. Okay. I can't tell how much of it's there or not. It looks like most of it. I think it's still there. I have a still of that. It looks like it's still there. Does it not?

Yeah. It could have been the front. What do you call it sure it could be a piece of glass flew out of the front or something that's what i think but maybe the entire thing wasn't hit right because it looks like most of it is intact interesting that's i mean that's pretty close that's probably as good as we're gonna get i think so yeah and we can analyze this frame by frame also if you keep playing it watch the faces of the uh the children who have to see this this is really a part worth watching and the poor women the woman next to him is so bloody distressed the one over his left shoulder is the one who's really covered in blood and and disturbed back and to the left back into the left

and to the left because you would think if the whole camera came apart and he said what broken half i mean that's clearly bullshit like that couldn't be we may not be able to trust it might be part of the lens or what's the plastic thing that kind of goes around the camera it was not the full camera i think it was a slice yeah yeah a little p i mean it looks like a little piece of him hit it like because he has a bruise on his right cheek and he might yeah have a cut on his nose so a piece this big you know is probably what hit him yeah and i'm like making you know two inch you know with my fingers right now for the listeners i think so i think he has exaggerated this and i think he's ignored it so that he could

give that scary safety warning but i think can we all are we all in agreement here that a goose did not hit fabio in the face huh i'm you're it's probably right because the chances if this goose hits the roller coaster it's like it's it's not gonna hit how would it hit straight up it's not like a ping pong ball it's not like a pinball yeah if it hit i mean i guess if it hit i'm trying to think of it it just seems like so impossible the whole thing to think of it it just seems like so impossible the whole thing obviously seems impossible but it actually seems like birds should hit people more on these things yeah it's almost weird it doesn't happen yeah i'd also like to point out the issue of pond proximity i watched a ride through of this ride

and you were next to ponds the entire time yeah it is not it is with that it is strange this doesn't happen more often but it was an accident waiting to happen and that's why fabio issued that grave warning right to all the children of williamsburg a person could be hurt or even a child even a child even a child what i'm what i'm mainly getting at and i think we can split here and i think until we get every piece of footage until we get all the camera feeds that were there until we get security camera footage and until we get the holy grail the footage from the camera mounted to the front of the car we can't ever know the entire story but there's one important piece to me yeah and that is this when by the time this story was

filtered through the media by the time it made it it to the late night comedians of the world, the take clearly was Fabio, who is a big lunk of a man. Yeah. That his huge dumb head was of such girth that it shattered a goose into pieces. Am I correct that this was kind of the feeling and the feel? Kind of. I mean, yeah, the late night hosts had a field day with it, but even

the newspaper articles are so mean and condescending. Yeah, even more so. You expect it from the comedians. That's their bread and butter. Jay Leno, what did Jayay leno say a collision between bird brains how dare you how dare you sir he also said bookstores are now carrying the audubon field guide to birds stuck in fabio's head but the that's a stretch i have

by the way what's playing right now is more raw footage Yeah, this is I'm just saying I'll keep an eye on this He's chatting Now I believe, am I correct That Kevin Eubanks then added That's cold, Jay

I mean, I can't That's not documented I'd have to get out my complete Jay Leno Tonight Show box set 500 DVDs I think I might buy it Yeah documented for that i'd have to get out my complete jay leto tonight show box set 500 dvds i think i might buy it yeah all right he's about to tick off take they look up the la times article about this i think it's the worst the worst offender i mean the headline alone fabio survives goose encounter but take a gander at his honker oh all right so we do have a good view of the camera before right there and which but what footage is that what's the source of this footage

this is cbs6 video vault march 30th raw video of bird bloodying fabio at bush gardens okay it's from the cbs now he's back it cuts out some the middle is really where it lies so this one cut out certainly not a shattered camera. That much we can tell. I'm just saying I have some sympathy for this man. Sure. Because I always viewed the coverage of this as criticism of him for having too big of a head. Yes.

This guy got so stupidly jacked and dares to be a celebrity. And then it was bound to happen that he was going to blow a goose to kingdom come with his big lunk melon but that is not what happened here's some camera and look at this his head is not much higher than these girls

no he sits comfortably in the seat Fabio I think anyone in the center this could have happened to has Fabio I mean the IP the viewfinder is still comfortably on the camera I can see that clearly I don't know maybe a piece of it

could he be misremembering he sells his watch his wristwatch is still there any other thoughts from the media Jason well the LA Times i'll just read their lead because it's it's a good example uh duck duck goose the laws of physics are so mysterious we always assumed that if we were traveling 73 miles per hour and collide it with say a small bowling ball we'd be dead so and they go on they they talk to a physics professor roger mcwilliams a

physics professor at uc irvine he attributed fabio survival to momentum transfer quote since the goose is mushy it could squash and diffuse the impact like a crush zone in a car he said however if it had been a brick fabio would be the crush zone this is fascinating but why would a brick be flying in the path of a goose if somebody had thrown it if a goose had dropped a brick this is the best footage so far of seeing it up close because this is slow mowing yeah it's very clear and it's very clear that the most the majority of the camera at least is on intact you can see the eyepiece you can see the top of it and there's some yellow tape seemingly all over is that a microphone like duct tape down but still why is that footage not available anywhere and i think the answer is bush gardens legal squashed it

they have the tape. They threw it in a pond as soon as this happened. See, the problem with that is that I did read that Busch Gardens panicked after this. They did not want this. They don't want that.

This is a brand new ride. I think it was their first. So Busch Gardens owns that footage. Yeah. But even if the camera didn't break apart, Busch Gardens doesn't want that getting out. No, because it would be graphic. So both ways is,

the motive for both of the things would be true. Even if the camera didn't break apart, they're like, we're not releasing the footage of a bird hitting him in the head. Oh yes, no matter what. Well, let's also keep in mind the manufacturer. This was the first B&M hyper coaster.

They probably don't want footage out there of like this is our first hyper first giant coaster uh and i i relearned that uh hyper coaster is higher than 200 feet giga coaster is higher than 300 feet okay huh so it's a hyper it's a hyper not a giga yeah this is 19 i think this is from april 16th 1999 this is when fabio warns of roller coaster danger yeah so if this is way to if i'm realizing if this had been a giga and it had been a brick then fabio would have been this mega crush zone oh it was for sure would have been the crush zone there uh here's another another thing in the la times are this one i'm talking about the meanness another scientist scientist, Ronald J. Stern of UC Irvine,

wondered if Fabio's physique was a factor. Does he have a thick skull? Stern asked. Judging by his profession, that might be the case. What are you doing, man? Bullshit. What are you doing? Why are you being rude? That's cruel.

I'm defending against the idea that his brawn caused this in any way it's not okay it is jealousy yes everyone wants to look like him that guy wishes he was on romance novel covers yes he wishes he showed up ironically in some celebrity fit club type thing once every year and a half it does feel like that was the 90s was like you know fuck fabio he's jacked and handsome yeah and like whatever he's not the most i don't know how maybe he's smart guy i don't know but man i looked up fabio accused there was nothing it doesn't seem like he's got any um things going on that are bad no i don't think so he now i feel a little bit

less bad for him because uh he does go on fox news every once in a while all right maybe he's a trump supporter well he he hasn't talked about trump much but he's talked about how california is going to shit because of liberalism oh okay about like he's madness out there and jerry brown he has let the criminal out and the rapist is on the street he's for sure a Trump supporter. Yeah. This is one of these stories, by the way, side note, had the strangest premise where Tucker Carlson's setting it up and saying like, you know, Hollywood has always been a promised land for buff Europeans. From Arnold's to Jean-Claude Van Damme to Dolph Lundgren.

It seems like half the continent moved here. But now things are with the rise of liberalism. Like, okay, those are three good examples. Name one more. Your premise is that because of liberal Jerry Brown, things are tough for brawny Europeans in California. You'll be saying, I can't believe it's still a state. All right. saying i can't believe it's still a state uh all right so anyway he hasn't uh there's no me too yet about him but he for sure likes trump and yeah probably uh i think he probably sucks this is probably not a great guy but he's not i don't think yeah there's no me too there's no akio there

was no like yeah he hasn't had to go away uh and and i just like let's have him on sure all these guys are just complaining they have to pay more in taxes that is usually what it is they've made a lot of money uh i'll move to williamsburg yeah i'm looking through in there and i was looking through his i assume you looked through his imdb and all of the times he's played fabio uh you're incorrect in that assumption actually that seems like something you would just know off the top of your head i don't yeah i don't have a lot of that yeah go for it i mean okay so just this is a little this is a little snippet tell me if you want the music by the way or if you just want to freestyle this

uh give me the music yeah i think the music yeah by the way, or if you just want to freestyle this. Give me the music. Yeah, I think the music. Yeah, let me see. Let's continue the investigation. I'll do a little improv off the top of my head to intro this. It turned out Fabio had been in a lot of different projects. Billed as himself, Fabio. Credited as Fabio. Let me list a few of them for you now. The Crew TV series, 1995.

Fabio playing Fabio. Jill Sobol, I Kissed a Girl Crew TV series, 1995. Fabio playing Fabio. Jill Sobul, I Kissed a Girl. Short film, 1995. Fabio as Fabio. 1996, Spy Hard. Fabio playing Fabio. The Movie Eddie, 1996.

Fabio playing Fabio. I believe so. I should double check that Step by Step TV series 1997 Fabio Playing Fabio

2000 Dude Where's my car Fabio Playing Fabio Zoolander 2001 Fabio

Playing Fabio And I could go on like that It was then that I started to wonder Was all of this Just a contrived publicity incident in order to let him stock up on more cameos? How many times could Fabio possibly play Fabio? Did he, like a roller coaster that was coming back to the station, feel like his career was losing steam?

I'm Scott Gardner. This is Goose Chase. I'm seeing Hollywood hollywood sex wars 2011 fabio plays fabio is he in the hologram theater anywhere alky david's hologram theater oh that's a good question he's in sharknado 5 global swarming fabio oh okay man that's random as hell it's always funny He You know Here's what looks to be

His like longest running role He was on the show Acapulco Heat Yes And he was Claudio On Acapulco Heat So he was playing A different character

Fabio Fabio is Claudio Acapulco Heat I recently discovered Is available on Amazon I'd never heard of it before And when the credits Came up and revealed that Fabio was the discovery that

Fabio was in the show was extremely exciting. I have to read that Acapulco heat is one of those where it's an acronym. It's H E A T. And that stands for hemisphere emergency action team right you know what models and photographers posing as uh anti-terrorism on the occasion when on the occasion when i have a meeting in hollywood and i try to throw out ideas of like stuff because you know everything's garbage and it's a repeat of something i'm gonna add acapulco heat to the conversation let's bring acapulco heat back who's our who's who would take over as claudio i think we gotta bring him back it can only be him like james earl jones is mufasa well you always bring back one from the old one as a mentor

oh yeah well we got claudio and claudio jr who's claudio jr now who's claudio jr i mean i want to say momoa is too big for this but maybe a lure of continuing the claudio claudio part would be enough that's interesting money probably wouldn't be the money wouldn't be great right i haven't watched a little bit maybe oh i got it what if claudio's son isn't like claudio so it's a conflict oh what if cla Claudio's son isn't like Claudio? So it's a conflict. Oh, what if Claudio's son is played by Jason Sheridan? Well,

I love to work, you know, you can turn, then you can turn Fabio from a right wing guy into a left wing guy. Yeah. So you'll be, you'll rub off on him on set. Dad,

Claudio, I give him the music. I just... Hang on. This is going to be the speech. Not quite appropriate. Is this my speech to Fabio or am I in character as Claudio G? You are off.

You are on set, but you're not doing the scene. You're explaining to Fabio that he's wrong about his views his political views you know from your it's almost like you sit on Mount Olympus Mr. Fabio and from up there it can be hard to look down and see so many people suffering

when you are doing so well and you know you can be part of the solution not part of the problem you know i just think a better world is possible you know i see what you're saying jason that's why i think the first season of acapulco heat 2.0 needs it needs to come to terms with the chaos that the original Acapulco Heat team caused. Overthrowing governments, assassinating heads of state. You know. I see your point, Jason.

Fixing bread prices. I could not have a finer actor playing my son. They hug a tender hug. Hey, can I have a bite of your hot dog? You know, I haven't really eaten today, and It just looks

really good. Okay. Alright, take a bite from the other end. I thought you were going to add an extra description. And then a goose flies in. A goose flies in, steals the hot dog, does a loop around, and ping pongs off Fabio's head into Jason's head. Well, I headbutt it. I see.

Oh, you see it coming. I deliver the kill. You get ahead of it. Jason kills a goose. By by the way we should say you know what's sad the goose died i don't want a goose to die oh yeah no matter what yes it didn't oh really you're a complete goose truther yeah maybe not so you think maybe it was all camera um we should we should say what we all think happened now. What is our official guess of what happened? And then we'll have to obviously do Fabio too,

to figure out. We get all of these camera feeds, right? From our new connections at the AP. Does anyone, cause we, we, you know,

we get emailed from time to time from people. Does anyone work at a bush gardens that is listening right now? Is there a dusty, poorly organized media library? Yeah. there's a zapruder tape get into the vault somewhere hack the vault hack the vault i mean i would think at this point they're not like so worried about this so maybe it's the tapes lying around what if they get into the vault and then open a drawer that says super top secret don't open and then inside there's another drawer mega super

please under threat of death do not open and then they open that drawer and inside is the goose oh my god the dead goose no no no he's alive whoa they've been keeping him under his control they've been keeping the goose artificially alive how long do geese live um probably depends on how many rats they eat um but they've been like pumping the goose full of like steroids and nutrients to keep it alive yeah just so like no one can so it doesn't talk so it doesn't talk i mean i don't know how it would well goosey might have come it might have returned to the scene of the crime and then just kind of done circles around the coaster and squawked and squawked as if to say you know

there's there's smoke here there could be fire yeah if a pet psychic got a hold of it then that would it would be curtains for bush gardens he's describing a terrible memory a memory of hitting a man's face wait no no no he's telling more hitting on the way to a man's face a camera wait no he's talking about being perched on the ground and watching a camera just become dislodged and then it being pinned on him uh no but bush gardens employee swooping the goose up covering it with fake blood and then saying i found the goose wringing its neck wringing its neck oh no it's dead it's dead it's definitely dead let's go take this to our incinerator dispose of him properly meaning certainly not keep him alive forever um i had some uh yeah i teased earlier i have some stuff

that was happening in the world at the time. Oh, yeah, yeah. Could I get the music? Yeah, yeah. Hang on. Okay. All right.

Jason Sheridan has the story. Does he? Spring of 1999 was already a crazy time for the state of the world march 29th the dow jones dow jones industrial average gets above 10 000 for the first time ever march 31st 10 things i hate about you released into theaters april 1st none of it becomes a a Canadian territory carved out of Northwest territories. April 4th, Jack Mobb founds the company Alibaba, China's answer to Amazon. And most importantly, April 3rd, Sam Kiska is born in Frankenmuth, Michigan. He would go on to be the bass player of Greta Van Fleet. That motherfucker just turned 21.

It's about to turn 21. Want to feel old? The bass player for Greta Van Fleet was born just after the Fabio Goose incident. So we haven't really looked into who were the Fabio babies. Who were the parents made love after seeing that news story who got that either word it like it needed the comfort needed of the comfort of a human body after being so shaken up by that incident or the perverse people who were happy that this happened to fabio and i bet it was the fucking journalists i think those with those with that blood lust they turned it into literal lust.

Honey, I feel alive. I've just written the best piece of my life. That was the best day of my life. Let's fuck. 21 years later, I think there's a third... Off to college. There's a third category of housewife

who was reading Fabio's romance novels already, saw that, saw the hunky man saw him covered in blood and imagine he was just in some sort of a pirate fight like imagine now seeing him in real life like he was in combat like he is on the cover of many of his romance novels where he's on holding a woman on a pirate ship oh sure you know what's a good little shipping we could do, actually, is the goddess directly behind him. Who was protected. Charlie Sheen's goddesses. That's the first thing I think of when you say that.

Oh, that's right. I forgot what the goddess is. No, he didn't call them goddesses, did he? I believe he did, right? Angel? I got so much energy, man. That's Cory's angels. I got goose blood energy, man.

I got Fabio blood energy winning uh yeah he called him the goddess charlie called him the goddesses yeah uh uh well whatever you want to cut the the you know like the the woman in the in the roman drape behind him who was protected from the all the goddess because think about that he did potentially save by taking that blow whether it was goose or camera he did potentially save a woman if there had been nobody there or a shorter person there

this is where we have to say his brawn was a good thing because it protected an innocent woman who just wanted to be part of the photo op and so it's a little fun to think about them right after like are you okay no but are you okay don't worry about me i am more concerned with you it does not matter the you have one speck of goose blood on your face or maybe my blood let me wipe it off and then that's such a tender process and becomes kind of like a ghost sequence it It's very sensual. It is funny. As soon as you were describing that before you said ghost, I thought, oh, it's

like ghost except for blood wiping off and not pottery. Have a paper cup of slice to cool down. That's something he would say to you too. That's your fantasy of you working with him. Jason, have a paper cup of slice.

Let's find somewhere private, perhaps the dry off station of Roman Rapids. And then the steam and the heat of the Roman Rapids dry off. Let us go enjoy the dining experience that in the mid 90s was all the rage at theme parks. Salad bars. Right? That's my memory of a lot of theme parks having a lot of salad bars at the time. And he, Armageddon style,

lovingly runs a cherry tomato up her chest. Then he removes her tunic and she removes his denim long sleeve shirt. Thick long sleeve denim shirt. And then gives him the cape here. Oh yeah. Wear this. You don't know how I'm going to keep going. I'm so excited now.

Do we know who was playing all of the goddesses? I don't think so. We should look into that. Were they just employees actors or were they yeah bush garden employees like just like come on can you put the tunic on like a casting call went on because they're all very they're all sort of similar height and hairstyle it seems kind of coordinated a local casting call then i guess yeah that's that makes sense

backstage yeah you would have been checking the listings and backstage they were all in a williamsburg local performance of a funny thing happened on the way to the forum. So they brought the costumes themselves. Hey, I would say in this case, a really funny thing happened on the way to the forum. At comedy tonight. Hey. Oh, boy. Any remaining thoughts about this there's that uh you know how this has uh impacted our uh it's remained in pop culture uh uh well i should say dylan sprouse uh uh of is he the one who's on

uh riverdale or is he the other one he is jughead okay that's not Cole? Or, oh, I'm sorry, yes, they're brothers. Ah, fuck, I forget this. I'll look it up. I believe it was Dylan Sprouse, formerly of Zack and Cody and Big Daddy, did a Halloween costume where he was in kind of an open shirt. He had long blonde hair

and he just threw a bunch of blood on his face. Right. So that was a recent reprisal jason you were saying uh yeah a friend of mine uh jesse weinberg a very funny comedian at ucb an artist uh as sells a print she drew a print and t-shirt of the the incident uh that you can look glorious buy online yeah it's kind of an idealized version, you know, a dreamlike version. The goddesses aren't there.

The goddesses aren't there, yeah. You can find that at jesseweinbergart.etsy.com, just a plug for her. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that looks very cool. I agree. And of course, Apollo's chariot continues to run in fact celebrated its

anniversary to celebrate uh the park served apollo's chariot birthday cake purple kettle corn and giant apollo's donuts in the england area as well as a pineapple and berry waffle cone sundae which was available at roman freeze you know i think that's great i think it's it's the place are getting really creative with some of their limited run uh food and i like that i don't know that was done oh sorry uh team parks are getting more and more creative with limited run dining options much with tied to the rise of instagram and social media but sometimes you can find a real winner in among them give it a shot why run from this history why not try a novelty dessert that looks like a goose exploded on fabio's face cherry Cherry blood. A meringue goose.

And inside, a chocolate rat. Why are they running from their legacy? Embrace it. This ride shouldn't be called Apollo's Chariot. It should be called Fabio's Goose Wagon.

You have a plus up on that? Is there a better... If they were just going to... People are going on this and thinking this is... Right. This is where it happened. There's that...

How about call it the Fabio's Crimson Mask? That's pretty good. Paint it red. There was that goose game, the video game where you played a goose and you went around... Unt was that goose game The video game Where you played a goose And you went around Untitled goose game Untitled goose game Yeah

Probably get So you want to put IP on it Yeah Fabio's Crimson Mask And then at Halloween time There's like some sinister There should be a big animatronic goose That chases you

They should use drone technology Oh that's good yeah To recreate this incident And it's kind of a demon goose that chases you red they should use drone technology oh that's good yeah this incident and it's kind of a demon goose who's following you around and trying to hit you and you wear a reindeer car and you they you put on the like ponchos before and then they splatter on you they could splatter blood from the front of the car they blow a little like air cannon yeah what about this what if the the line was like a temple of like an ancient god uh and he he he's mad you're there and you have to escape so like you get loaded in the car and you hear like get out of my temple and then real loud you hear and then and then you are

you go on it well it's not a. That'd be great for a launch. Release the goose. Release the goose. Yeah, they could have a giant goose. Or like the impression of a giant goose. Right. Here's a plus up. You have some sort of red light that only happens. So you shoot water instead of blood.

Because people don't want to get sprayed with fake blood. But the red light hits the car as soon as the spray happens so it look from your vantage point it looks like red coming at you that's really cool they just flash it right then if they can time it perfectly then it makes it look like blood is about to hit you wow but then it's not and then when you're on the end of the ride it's like red and it makes it kind of look like you're wet with red blood and then a bunch of animatronic goddesses all applaud uh-huh back you made it out safely that's good have sex in the dry off tent the chill out tent this is a hell of a ride this was a hell of a ride to to talk about this uh yeah i think i didn't

expect to start an episode about the fabio getting hit in the face by goose and discover that possibly fabio was not hit in the face by goose i will go i will say i don't think he was you don't think okay yeah let's let's sum up right now what do we think happened well i'm so conflicted i you know a lot of articles about this looking back on it were very quick to point out that like you know news moved a lot slower at the time there wasn't the viral internet this is right before the like internet the world of the internet really exploded um so people seeing this a lot on late night or local news or in newspapers and uh yeah i don't know i think it's still there's still clearly a fog of confusion of something even even these these trusted fact check

sources at the time like something i think what does your heart say yeah what does your heart say my gut is i think no your heart my okay fine my heart my gut is saying I think... No, your heart. Okay, fine. My heart. My gut is saying, let's get some goose. You're hungry for goose? We're going to get a goose together to celebrate this goose episode. It's not Christmas. Christmas goose. Did you ever have Christmas goose?

No. Okay. You're going to go buy a goose at a butcher shop and then make mike cook it for us in his apartment i i thought about getting i can't believe it's not butter on the way over but i realized like oh then what just gets stuck with a tub of it i think that's a good glaze though that's a good way that's the meal the tribute this incident is glazing a goose and i can't believe it's not butter i think think I could, I'm coming around more to the goose hit the vehicle and then hit Fabio. Yeah.

I think the camera, I don't know if it's him misremembering either on accident or on purpose. I think goose hitting the camera, piece of camera hitting Fabio. I don't, I just don't buy that. Huh. I think that a goose is big so a goose to do the

damage on his face would have had to like nick him more than full impact yeah i think it barely touched him if if if it's yes if it's goose it's it barely touches him because he isn't going to bruise here and a little cut so it does make more sense that a goose hit and a couple pieces flew off bruising him and cutting him yeah because i think if a goose hit his head it would have done more yeah yeah so i think probably a couple little pieces maybe fell off. He could have also been struck a little bit by the goose and a little bit by the camera. Could have been a mix.

That's the extra. That's maybe the way to make everyone happy. But I think our listeners, somebody's going to know more than we do and i have a feeling we'll get some sort of inside source or report yeah about this to really clear it up so i'm officially guessing i'm gonna officially guess it's a little piece of the camera was hit by the goose hit him in the face sliced hit here and here because it only could have been a couple inches your i think your wrestling knowledge factors into the type of of bleed yeah nose here you don't usually blade on the nose it's usually on the forehead that's kind of where he got hit but the nose bleeds a lot i remember in gym class when we were swimming uh a kid had cut himself in the pool and didn't know it and it was

like right here i think on his like forehead and nose And he got out of the pool and he had a full face of blood and had no clue. And everyone's like, ah. And he's like, what? Yeah. So like, and it didn't hurt or anything. So, yes, I think camera piece makes more sense, honestly. I'm full camera. I think we would have seen that footage.

And you think no goose at all. And I just know what I think the goose at the camera. and you think no goose at all and i just no i think the goose at the camera okay you think goose i think i i think no goose at fabio because i think it would have been more damage and i you know i'm more conspiratorial than i used to be in a post epstein world right uh and i the fact that they rushed out and that all the spokespeople said act of god they were really like push that that feels like legalese to me yeah and i i just uh i i i call foul on this definitely which is kind of a i really could have laid into that like a newspaper report i call foul well i'll go back and edit it so you had the song under it did they pay him for his silence or his agreement oh interesting did he sue or anything yeah like i think this

was i think act of god was a way to shut him up and get him to not sue right because i bet he has to sign a contract because basically when you go into a theme park all the tickets are essentially saying act of god we're not responsible obviously people do get sued and stuff for things but there is some sort of like basic going in agreement that like hey if a bird hits you in the head it's not our fault i think they could have kicked him a little extra they might have just as an apology very possible just like a they should have yeah and whether or not it was an act of god it is appropriate that it is it happened on this ride that is about the gods. And I, you know, I don't want to read the whole thing.

Although, well, here, you know what? Maybe with music. Yeah, yeah. Here we go. This seems like a good way to wind it down. Yeah, take us out. Okay. Every morning, Apollo gets in his chariot and drives the sun across the sky. One morning, Apollo's son, a human named Faithion, asks to steer the chariot and the steeds across the sky. One morning, Apollo's son, a human named Faitheon,

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Professional websites at the drop of a button. Squarespace, proud sponsor of Goose Chase. Thanks for listening. Hi, everyone. Shortly after recording this episode, we reached out to some of our high-ranking sources in the theme park world to get another perspective on the fabio

story we're butting in with an update this is we're now talking to you weeks from having recorded the other one so so this is we're we're we're butting in we're jumping ahead in time and we heard from someone who was not just there that fateful day but on the ride itself. Now they've asked for anonymity so On the ride with Fabio. On the train with Fabio. So here they are now. I've edited

this a little for anonymity and clarity and brevity's sake. Here's what they had to say. I haven't heard anyone saying anything about a piece of camera it was definitely a canadian goose that hit his face and exploded on impact which wasn't so good for the people in the rows behind him you can see the innards on them in the photos ick the innards oh the coaster used to have small lakes by the bottom where the geese would hang out.

The park paved over the lakes in the hope that a freak accident like that wouldn't happen again. There was a camera mounted on the front car, but that was intact before, during, and after. Fabio was definitely in shock and just kept saying, a bird, over and over again. Whoa. Huh. in shock and just kept saying a bird over and over again whoa huh so now we're thinking this this count contradicts all the fabio story the recent fabio story yes but which what doesn't seem like it was always his story no yeah in the day after the event it seemed like the bird who got to him in the time from that Fox News interview to the time it happened? Someone was trying to push a camera breaking agenda. Yeah, maybe so.

Is there some other party here? Like a PETA or something. They don't want to give the goose a bad name. Mm-hmm. Hmm. Huh. Yeah. What would be the reason?

Or somebody trying to prove that cameras are dangerous. Somebody has a problem with cameras. The estate of Robert Reed, perhaps? Trying to bolster his story. That's right. Which famously no one has believed. Right. So, wait, this person was on the, this is one of the nymphs.

The goddesses. The goddesses. Because that's all that was on the train in Fabio. We've spoken to one of the goddesses now. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Okay. was on the train and fabio we've spoken to one of the goddesses now yeah wow wow okay this is interesting because honestly i think i was hoping this would just completely clear it up but now i have more questions about fabio and his motivation yeah yeah that's that's the next person we have to

get to could it also just be memory could it also just be like he has convinced himself for like the haze of memory you know it's not as fun to think it's memory yeah okay but you're you know probably right okay probably wraps this up probably didn't realize what was happening because he got hit in the head with a goose so you know so that could have made him yeah add false lenses hitting his way maybe he thinks you know what he probably thinks is like i am so powerful a goose would never be able to do damage to me like this it must have been like a hard piece of the camera that would wound a fabio but a bird i laugh at a bird that's true would not cut

me but now you got me thinking the anheuser-busch people could have gotten to him you think those people told him to say the camera no that doesn't make sense because they wanted the bird narrative as we discussed we've just we talked about this a couple weeks ago so i've forgotten exactly but the the they wanted the bird because it was an act of god they didn't want the camera because then they would be liable because then they're liable yeah so the bush people would that would be not their motivation it's hard to know who got to who. Right.

The goose board, the camera board. There's a lot of boards at stake. And this has been 20 years since. So plenty of time for funds to be risen to give to Fabio. I don't want to go accusing one of the goddesses of having a false memory. No. They have less to gain, I think. Right. Fabio is the one, as we discussed, is sort of a right-wing guy. one of the goddesses of having a false memory no story they have listed gain i think right um

fabio is the one as we discussed as sort of a right-wing guy maybe he can be more easily manipulated do you remember what show he's been on on fox news can we tweet at a fox news like judge carlson tucker carlson oh it's tucker carlson can we tweet at tucker carlson next time he's on to ask about this or judge napolitano any of the celebrities on judge genie judge genie any of steve ducey any of the stars of fox news could ask fabio about this yeah click to clarify um that would be nice and show old clips and but you know but they're gonna also gonna want to keep his story intact because he's their proof that California is going to shit and that it's tough out there for a European hunk in California

where it didn't used to be in the 80s. That's true. The 80s was the time for European hunks. So we need to, really, maybe we need the other, we need Michael Moore to bum rush him or something. Okay. Well, maybe after the election we'll take care of this. I'd rather solve it sooner than later you know you're right you get him off the trail get him off the campaign trail get everyone into the room to solve the fabio problem

or you know what let's just is 12 is he on is he on twitter oh good question let's we'll look into that look into that probably oh two will be coming i just wish i knew about all this during the... I don't know that it happened. I assume he came in for a Funny or Die general meeting, and that would have been my chance. He didn't do a video, though? I think he did with John Daly.

Oh, yes. But I don't know that he did a... But he could have. All of the living joke people. Hasselhoff came in. Yes, right. He passed out masks of himself. So why wouldn't Fabio have?

I don't know. Will we ever get in front of Fabio again? I don't know. Do we invite him on to talk about just a ride that he likes? He's on Space Mountain. I love Space Mountain. I'm excited to talk to you about Space Mountain. You go flying as if through space.

I don't like the one that put Star Wars ghosts in there. I don't like that. The ghosts you take away from just the thrill of space. What even is a ghost galaxy? Ha ha, all right, very fun. All right, now cut the shit. What really happened that day? And you don't get to leave this apartment until...

You said so many fucking ways you don't know which way is up. He stands up and he beats the shit out of all three of us and leaves you can't beat up the truth fabio does fabio he can be he's strong but is he like a he's not a violent guy though he's a lover so maybe i'm wrong maybe he wouldn't beat us maybe he wouldn't make love to us he wouldn't fight us he would fuck us dead no i just well maybe yeah maybe i guess we couldn't handle that raw power probably not no either way he's gonna leave us all like bloodied on the ground and then if anybody asks what happened he'll say it was a camera excuse for everything if you out there have any theme park secrets the the real dirt the raw intelligence uh feel free to reach out yeah uh and we'll certainly keep you anonymous

i should set up a signal wouldn't that be very funny where the one uh podcast a ride show with signal the encrypted messaging app journalists use to speak to their sources more reporter jason stuff yeah i had no clue i thought you meant like a bat signal i thought you meant like a thing in the sky it essentially is but if you ever look at a journalist like um you know twitter accounts they they have their signal numbers in there that's why you're our cub reporter yeah you can't resist the cut you can't uh deny the cub reporter role that you're you've set yourself up for sure are there elections in anaheim this year that's a good question don't know let's take a look we'll have to take a look there's more there weren't it wasn't all the city council seats right right that was up that's what bloomberg's running for now

he's got a good gotta take it somewhere he'll spend $200 million to get on the city council of Anaheim. Thanks for butting in with that. Boy, this story just goes deeper and deeper. Deeper and deeper. Wild. Bye. Bye. Forever Dog.

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