Podcast: The Ride - VelociCoaster with Steven Ray Morris

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

We're back from our long winter's nap! And Steven Ray Morris (See Jurassic Right, My Favorite Murder) returns to the show to talk Universal's VelociCoaster! Toad Ins Episode up at Club 3: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Warning, the following podcast may contain pre-show arguments, snoot restrictors, top hats not worn on heads, and a massive breakthrough in theme park wallet and hat storing technology. All that plus, Stephen Ray Morris returns to talk Velocicoaster on theme park podcast, they didn't stop to think if they should start a theme park podcast. I'm Scott Gardner, gold blooming it a little bit, joined by Mike Carlson. Yes, hello, I'm here and i we did not uh consider the implication we did not consider the art what would happen if we did it and we didn't earn this knowledge we took it from yesterland and from jim hill and now we're now we're selling it

we're selling it uh jason sure yeah placing a water droplet on jason sheridan's hand right now to show him just to illustrate what happened kind, in a non-verbal way. I forgot for a second that moment in the movie, and I was like, do I have a water droplet on my hand? How did I do that? And why is Mike honing in on it? It's the sexiest part of the movie, I think, other than the shirtless Goldblum.

Oh, wait, that's a little flirty thing. It's what he does in real life. It's all hands. See how he did this thing with you and with your hands. It's the Goldblum sexuality. Secret of the Soul is the hands. Yeah, hey, we're doing some Jurassic Park stuff today. Jurassic World, really.

Excited to be doing it. Mainly we are back on main feed. Apologies for the long break but it was nice to get some time off there of course there were new episodes that entire time uh on the patreon so if you want to hear everything that you that you missed if you didn't hear all that uh you can catch up at the second gate and club three all of that at patreon.com slash podcast the ride but here we are back back for free. And good to see you again. And it seems like a good way to kick off the year to continue our series of big new rides

from this decade, from this century. A blockbuster. Yeah. Two-year-old attraction. Two-year-old ride. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I forgot. I thought it was sooner, but it was...

It's been there for a little bit because it kind of popped up when pandemic was still kind of cooking. But yeah, big rides that now we've experienced. Some of us will get into that. But very excited to be doing it with a fan of the franchise

and a returning guest and a great supporter of the show it's so good to see you again from the podcast from his podcast see jurassic right it's steven ray morris thank you thank you i have the spirit of jimmy with me today rest in peace oh yeah wait describe your shirt because this this ties together you know you called a shot a while back and i filed it away and it was like well if you want to do velocicoaster or uh jimmy buffett's books yes oh my god yeah and i was like well we got a lot there's a lot of buffett in the air right now we just did one on club three we'll deal all across that bridge when

we get to it but the shirt yes so yeah it's basically it says jimmy buffett in this kind of classic font like the the yellow greatest hits cover and then there's the T-Rex and it's Jimmy Buff throwing the peace sign surrounded by dinosaurs. And yeah, I don't know. And then it says live from Jurassic Park. So I wish I knew who actually did it, but a friend gave it to me for Christmas. But I'm sure if you look online, you'll find it. Sell it as official merch.

Because I look, I think it's probably not official Jimmy Buffett license, which I'm not offended by. Look, dude, I think you should have sent five bucks to the buffett estate yes just because to make it fair i will i will yes i think they should officially license that it's not official because he's not holding two margaritavilles and pair or two margaritas in peril well it's not fleeing and it's not advertising enough for the other parts of the brand that's right yeah that's really what I, again, care about as far as... Well, that was the funniest thing to me about, because obviously in Jurassic World, there's the Margaritaville at the park where you're like, this is great.

This is like perfectly like in the world of a real theme park kind of thing. Exactly what it would be. It's my favorite thing about those movies, that there's a Brookstone and a Margaritaville and an IMAX theater. It's that detail. And then in the Fallen Kingdom, the second Jurassic World movie, they literally have a shot

just of the destroyed Margaritaville sign on the main street when they go back to the island where Frank is just like, Frank Marshall is just like, on this show, I think it's a first name basis. Not the last Frank Marshall reference today.

But it's just like, I just love that they just go like, you know, just in case you forgot, there was a Margaritaville here at Jurassic World. It's a big part of the new ones and he's in them. I feel like canonically, you know, like in real life, Jimmy Buffett was Frank Marshall's best friend. But I feel like in the world of the Jurassic film, I feel like narratively, maybe he was best friends with Dr. Hammond.

Oh, yeah. Oh, interesting. I like the idea of that. We're both pioneers. I pioneered Trap Rock, and he pioneered Mosquito, getting that Mosquito goo out. Yeah, he had a crazy idea for a dinosaur park and i thought hey maybe let's put poke on some nachos same deal two innovators but see thing and then this guy was

telling me that i didn't stop to i was so concerned whether i could i didn't start to think if i should that guy talked too much i gave him a margarita said relax and he uh he passed out real quick ham and dinosaurs went crazy started eating, and the poking nachos made a bunch of people sick. Both incidents and accidents. Hey, the lawyer got eaten, and no one was sad about that. Am I right, folks? Oh, man. Yeah, you're right.

Jimmy would be like, get the lawyer. I told him, if there's a problem there, just run to the nearest Thatch bathroom. It'll hold up. Get straight there. Well, yeah, I mean, so excited to get your perspective on this ride, having a podcast all about Jurassic Park and Jurassic World. And you, I know that you're a fan of the ride as well. Seems like you did it a while back. What were the circumstances of experiencing VelociCoaster? Well, it's funny because the first,

the only time I'd ever been to Orlando was when I was like, it was the year Lion King came out. Because I just remember because there was tons of pictures of my sister and I just like covered in Lion King came out. Because I just remember because there was tons of pictures of my sister and I just like covered in Lion King merch. And at that point, the Jurassic Park ride hadn't, the second park, the adventure one, hadn't been built. Islands of Adventure. Thank you, Jason. It's on his sweater right now.

It's on my sweater. It's the heaviest, chunkiest sweater i have and it's cold out it's a great sweater putting on my chunky islands yeah um but yeah so i hadn't been to uh orlando since i was a kid and i think it was that when the vlasic coaster opened i think that was kind of like an incentive to want to you know especially like i went in august of 2021 so the ride had only been open for a couple months and things had only been like park because um universal here in la had opened on my birthday in 2021 so that was like a fun treat to get to go back to you did that on your birthday yeah i did that on my birthday yeah that weekend it was so much fun um but then i had a friend who you know it was like one of those his dad worked for the parks

or whatever it was kind of just like hey if you want to come out for a weekend and you can ride you know like again first time back to to orlando and you know since i was a kid oh my god yeah and it was you know it's one of those things where i'm like now that my dad lives in florida like anytime i go visit him i'm like you do you want to go up to Orlando to go to like Disney World or Magic Kingdom? Because like Magic Kingdom didn't exist when I went there the first time. But yeah, the VelociCoaster was just like,

we have to go. You mean Animal Kingdom, that's a correct. Or Animal Kingdom. Animal Kingdom, yeah, yeah, yeah. I shouldn't do, I just want to say it. No, no. Because anybody was thinking. No, no, the listeners are going to appreciate that.

But yeah, it was one of those things where it was like, we're basically there. I mean, cause I've written a lot of the other, you know, well, I guess I hadn't written the Jurassic park ride there either. So it was like,

kind of just like, we're there for two days. We're just going to hit up all this stuff. We did Margaritaville at city walk Saturday night. And then Sunday we went immediately to Velocicoaster, like first thing. Cause I just, I felt like at the time the lines were just so insane so it was like yeah this is the priority and then very just

very luckily we uh because of my friend's dad or whatever like we got to go ride the ride twice in a row oh wow like we we still had to get off it was one of those kind of things but sure but it was one of those I just feel very lucky that I got to do that in that way because I think it's the greatest roller coaster of all time. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we'll get into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You guys are the ones to say. But if you want to plant that flag, do you agree with that statement? Is it a viable candidate? Is that? The only reason i would say it's just because i haven't been on like big stuff like i haven't gone on tatsu i haven't been brave enough to do stuff like that at six flags so i can't point you know anything yeah i can't say definitively but as far as every like anything i've been on now i i posed the question

is guardians better than velasco's velasco's are better than Velocicoasters? Is Velocicoaster better than Guardians? But I think purely from the, again, I think I said this, purely from the experience my body is having, the way I'm handled, as I said on the Guardians episode, I think, yeah, it's the best coaster I've ever been on. Absolutely. Yeah, as far as like thrills, you know, cause I like, you know, Transformers and, you know, Rise of the Resistance and the Hagrid one.

Like those are all innovative in all these different cool ways. But like, just as like a regular roller coaster, I feel like it's my favorite at least. Yeah. And it seems like there's, I bet there there are rides with that put up the stats more like like the coast, the high tech, that don't have the narrative build, it seems like. Because it feels like this thing, it's not one of those roller coasters where the big thing it does is at the top and then the rest is kind of like a wind around

and it's all fun, but you kind of did the big thing. This thing has beginning, middle, end, it feels like. of like a wind around and it's all fun but you kind of like did the big thing that like this thing has like beginning middle end it feels like yeah it does a lot of stuff really well there's like perfectly two big almost magic tricks in this that caught me so off guard yeah what are you considering the second launch yes the launch up the top hat and then the very end barrel roll over the water yeah somehow despite staring at it from port of entry a number of times it didn't occur to me what that would be like going over the water well you were in such a port of entry fog well yeah focus

i was in the port of entry fog just like because you, because you don't just like grab that Cinnabon and go. You sit, you take 75 minutes with it, knife and fork it. Yeah, I gotta hear the whole loop when the loop repeats. And whoever you're with, like, shh, shh, shh, the piccolo? Hear the piccolo?

Yeah, that's like me when I hear like Eve Six playing in a bar. Everybody stop everything. A very rare piece of music is playing right now. That's like, I was, there was some karaoke and then they did the Mulan, I'll make a man out of you.

And like the entire bar just like erupted. It was like, Oh, everyone here is like between the ages of 35 and like 45. Like we look like, I just, for the first, I just saw some Disney Christmas parade.

I'd never seen where Donny Osmond performs it himself. Oh, yeah. Whoa. Seeing the face. Putting the face to the voice. Mr. Isle. The most pronounced... Nobody's ever pronounced Isle.

Music so much. Make a man. All right. See, I want to start singing it. Go for it. Yeah, take it. Out of you. of the moon. Be a man.

What you were saying about that second launch, I didn't realize this. The second launch isn't as fast as the first launch, but it makes you feel like it is. Well, no, you do go, it's not as fast on the launch, but you end up going fast. Sure, but the launch itself

isn't faster than the first launch. No. That's what I saw. Well, because first launch is, I saw conflicting things. Maybe. Zero to 50 or zero to 55 miles per hour. Yeah.

Second launch, you go from 40 to 70 miles an hour to get you up that hill. Oh, so it's not as, it's not going, it's not zero to, so that's a different sensation. But I feel like that's why, like too. So that's a different sensation.

But I feel like that's why, Jason, you're so right about that. Just because it's like, I think since I've started getting back into going to theme parks again and stuff, I guess for a listener to remind you, I worked at Disneyland in high school. That's right. But one of those things where it was, just didn't really like i didn't look ahead or anything and it was that kind of thing we were like i'm going as fast as i've ever or feeling like i'm fast as i've ever gone on a roller coaster and then you then the second launch happens and you're just like oh my like there's that feeling like when you're on the ride that you're like how is it even possible like they're they're just gonna send a shooting off like a old

like um roller coaster tycoon like when you're a kid and you just it just keeps flying yeah you just make the roller coaster just go off and then all the you know all the people on the ride just fly off into the theme park or whatever yeah and then they just then somebody nails a sign up some little sim guy this ride is not safe yeah um let's just let's step back make sure we've said some basics here this is a fairly new attraction at universal's islands of adventure in the jurassic park area obviously opened june 10th 2021 uh i i think uh let me read their official literature and say that it is the apex predator of roller coasters we can agree on this statement can we not yeah yeah that's what i was gonna say but yeah this is it is like it is a

gigantic record-breaking highest of tech highest of thrills roller coaster in which the just the premise it in the world it is a roller coaster it's not like we're abstractly representing like the way some things are. Sure, it's on a track, but you're supposed to think that you are on the flight of a dragon or something. Or you are a raptor or something. Yes, because I wasn't sure about that

having, again, not gone on it myself. But it is like you're in the world of Jurassic World and they have opened a roller coaster that goes in and out of a velociraptor paddock to simulate the thrill of the hunt. Is this a fair summation? Yes. And Claire and Owen are having a big argument about it in the pre-show. Just like Frank, first name basis. Yes.

Claire and Owen. We know them. We love them. Our favorite characters from the Jurassic Park movies. Yes, of course. Well, Owen Grady and Claire Dearing. We know them. We love them. Our favorite characters from the Jurassic Park movies. Yes, of course. Well, Owen Grady and Claire Dearing. Let's say they're

a few wild names. Thank you, Jason. Jason, you just wasted five seconds with what we didn't need because the audience knows those guys' names. We know the Dearing legacy.

We know. Well, look, you know, there's different age groups. You know, older people, they think the star of the Jurassic movie,

it's Alan Grant, but the younger generation they know owen grady that's no yeah well we know the correct answer which is that alan grant doesn't fucking matter anymore it's about claire deering end of story yeah that's right amen even i know alan grant came back in the last one but i didn't pay attention i'd closed my eyes until claire was i heard about it and i was mad like why do they bring these olds back you know yeah yeah yeah these dinosaurs these aren't the kind of dinosaurs i want to see exactly um but uh yeah i i think another big notable thing about it is that this is you know

we've had jurassic park the ride for a long time uh which then opened an island's adventure is jurassic park river adventure and there's other like the international parks have versions of that but this is the first major jurassic park attraction that is not in the river format right is the first one to open at least that breaks us out and cracks open the entire world of other Jurassic. I know there was Pteranodon flyers, but I mean like big old, you know. Right. Well, there's the one in, which one is it overseas? There's a new Jurassic World.

The rapids one? No, not the rapids. It's like in a scoop vehicle. Yeah, where they chase you. Beijing. Beijing. Yeah, that's where that is. That is, I think, just called Jurassic World Adventure.

Do you know about this, Stephen? Do you know about this crazy ride? I think I've watched maybe a video of it once. But it is hard when you're looking at theme parks that are so far away and you're just like, well, I don't know. I don't want to get too sad that I'm probably not going to be able to go anytime soon, you know? Yeah, Beijing's a difficult trip to do for sure. But it's nuts. It makes me so happy that we're not just sticking with one Jurassic ride.

Because, yeah, you're right, it's the Spider-Man ride vehicle. So you're in and out of screens, but there are a lot of practical dinosaurs. There's one big set piece that's pretty crazy. That's a big robot. Spoiler alert, there's a big T-Rex, I think. Indominus. Indominus, I'm so sorry. It's Indominus.

I have an Indominus toy in the house now, thanks to the kiddos. You know more dinosaurs. I'm more Indominus-focused at the moment. So yeah, but it's like, they make it look like it's truly walking toward you. Well, that's like at Universal here. It's at the end of the Jurassic World ride, the redo.

Because I think when it first opened, it was kind of just like sitting in the corner, just like roaring. But like now it actually- Yes, it was under a tent of some kind. Yeah, yeah. A sheet. Yeah, when it opened, it was like, I think, yeah, 2019. It was just kind of like, ah, and you're like, okay, it's not anywhere near us.

We're not going to be in danger. But now it actually walks up right up to the edge where the T-Rex swings out. Because the Indominus is sort of just hanging out, and then the T-Rex still swoops in. Yeah. So they have like a snoot off. A snoot off.

They have a snoots touch, and then they're like. They're mosaic kisses. One of these animals you refer to as having snoots, it. They have a snoots touch. And then they're like, one of these animals you refer to as having snoots, it can't all be snoots. People are pointing out turtles don't have snoots. It's not snoots.

Well, they have a beak. Beaks is it. Yeah, yeah. Not every animal on the planet has a snoot. I know you love saying the word, but at some point, I gotta call you out.

If somebody, look, I think it's cute that this Indominus is a snoot. I just think. Well, it's a fictional animal, so it could have a. That's true. That's true. Biologically, yeah.

I mean, it is like the, like, again, from when I went to Disney World as a kid, my sister got the Simba and Nala that have the magnets in their nose. Oh, we had those, yeah. The plushes. Really? I don't know that. That's cute. Yeah, we had those.

Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if maybe they, yeah, probably an eBay or something, but like, yeah, now they need to make an Indominus and the T-Rex with magnets and their snoot. Yeah.

So they, so they, yes, that's good. They're trying to bash heads. They're trying to fight, but once they get close, they realize they're in love.

Yeah. That's cute. Um, so yeah, this thing, that thing in Beijing though, it's like, I think it's on like a

turntable of some kind. It must be. Like you are and it is. Or you're going, I don't know how it works, but you're going like kind of backwards and they're turning it. So it really makes like the full size body of the dinosaur is kind of like lumbering toward you. It's crazy on video.

It sells in the video and I'm sure in person it's 200% better too. It's lumbering toward you. It's crazy on video. It sells in the video, and I'm sure in person it's 200% better, too. It's nuts. So this all makes me happy that the Jurassic World films have been successful because it juices up the parks. We get new stuff in the parks, and it feels like they've really reinvested in the franchise theme park-wise. To me, this is the epitome of franchise i'm iffy about but who cares i want my rides give me rides uh so it's it's it's it's fine uh steven where do you land on these uh with with your pocket what did i i imagine you love the first movie very much.

Where do you fall on Jurassic World as opposed to? Well, yeah, I mean, I'm invested in liking them to some extent. But I also think, I kind of think Chris Pratt was miscast in the movies a little bit. Because I feel like they were kind of, you know, because Guardians and Jurassic World came out around the same time or within like a year of each i think guardians was 2014 and they were like oh well chris pratt is sassy in that movie so we kind of have to make him a like a dour verner herzog character in the drastic world movies where he's like everything is you know even even in the ride video for velocicoaster he's like we're all gonna die like you know you're a bunch of idiots like that kind of stuff severe in this yes and then they've kind of had to pivot away

from that a little bit. And I mean, you know, I, well, I think Jason Clarke, I think would have been a better fit for the Jurassic world movies. I think just a little bit weirder, a little more eccentric, but I mean, you know, I liked them because I like seeing dinosaurs you know it's kind of like the thrill of that and I did like the last movie a lot if only just because it reminded me more of like a Michael Crichton novel where it's like dinosaurs sure whatever but like locusts like that's where we're that's like the interesting part right we're like I guess but I'm I'm down for it I'm down for more Laura Dern getting oh yeah you know getting to kick ass so I'm I'm down for it. I'm down for more Laura Dern getting to kick ass. So I'm grateful for the last one,

that last one just for that. But yeah, I mean, you know, they're enjoyable and I like seeing dinosaurs and stuff. Yeah, that's how it's like you're at least getting, yeah, a bunch of new, like, you know what I feel like

about that first one is like, there's so much, it's like I like so many things about it I like the margaritaville and the brook style I like the mall and then I like the the spheres the what are the gyrospheres what it's called yeah yeah uh I like those and I like indominus and I like the tea I like that it's like the the version that worked and then that one goes awry and then and then it just doesn't add up into yeah i like every piece and then it doesn't like coalesce into something that super works for me but hey that's i don't know there's big

movies that don't even have pieces that i like so that's something i like jake johnson by vintage jurassic park merchandise that's very relatable to me uh but uh yeah i i liked him as comic relief you know um jurassic world and transformers it's like yeah they might not be my favorite movies great for a ride great for a five to six minute you know experience with like absolutely factoring in ride time and queue time you know the thing I would say in regards to the rides is I don't love the aesthetic of Jurassic World as much as the original. I don't think that's nostalgia.

It's a little cold. Jurassic World is a little cold because they do recreate the gray-blue aesthetic for Velocicoaster. I'm surprised that I like it. Now, I think I said on an episode, like getting to go on original Jurassic Park,

the ride or river adventure there with its yellows and reds and kind of 90s primaries. I liked it, but I also kind of, I don't know, it's more generic. It feels like other franchises

have those colors, but I think like, I think the colors of all these new things, and especially Velocicoaster, are pretty cool. I don't know why. I'm surprised I'm forgetting. I just find it a little cold, that's all. I'm not against it. I think that's by design.

Yeah, it's almost that thing of in the 90s, they were like, what does the San Diego Zoo look like in 1991? And then we're going to, you know, for 1993. And then now it's like we're looking at, yeah, zoos and, you know, because I watched a behind-the-scenes video for the roller coaster and, like, they hired a person who designed, like, zoo habitats to do all the stuff for the Velocicoaster, like the rocks. Yeah, the plants and rock work and stuff, yeah.

That's the logic of like it's it is if it's a velociraptor panic then we're we need to make it feel as natural as possible like build it to them so that they don't feel like they're and just even the aesthetic of how we do stuff now where it is that thing like i feel like you guys talked about before it's like with um you know with the star wars land and stuff where it's like sometimes the devotion to making it logically sound maybe isn't always the most exciting. You miss some fun. Yeah, yeah. Because you're like, this is a theme park.

We can kind of do whatever. Sure, sure. And yeah, I think like a big part of the Jurassic World stuff is making it feel like a real zoo to some extent. Sure. But yeah, it's like mileage may vary on how enjoyable this aesthetic is you're right though that original jurassic park feels like san diego yeah wait and it's what was it was gonna open in san diego and lost world yeah yeah i like that i was like going through the t-rex going through the town is so silly but it's pretty fun yeah the cadillac chase

yeah i love that and the downtown burbank you know it's downtown burbank when i figured that out yeah like that's the i think it's a lot of things that aren't open but like the blockbuster that gets crashed into and yeah every time i'm in look i'm already happy if i'm in downtown burbank when i really i sometimes will go like, wow, Lost World. Yeah, yeah. You're like a bunch of weird mechanical things ripped down this telephone pole, you know, this big telephone pole. Uh-huh, yeah.

They wet this street down. This is probably closed for days. The Lost World, I haven't watched the Lost World in forever, and I didn't love it when I saw it for the first time. I'd only seen it once. But people were talking about Mission Impossible 7 with the big train sequence and people were like oh that's so cool or whatever people like Lost World did that type of thing first where the thing was falling off the cliff oh yeah yeah this long it was not it was a trailer it was not a train in

the movie but there was a very similar scene of like trying to climb up and get out of it oh that stressed me out so much when I saw that at like 12, the hanging off the cliff in Lost World. And Julianne Moore, it's like she's on the glass as it's like slowly cracking and stuff. That sound design is so, yeah, so eerie. That sticks with you. Filmed on the Universal Hollywood parking garages. I always loved that.

That was a good time to be here and going to the, going on the tram tour, like when Lost World was still a big presence. Because now I feel like they kind of got a makeup that they're still doing big things. Yeah, yeah. And that they aren't just converting it slowly into more theme park. Or that like, I don't know.

Well, yeah, look, shows film in that soundstage, but nobody ever goes to the back lot anymore. But post Lost World, you could really, there was an energy. You could really feel it. When you work there uh when you did like the tram tour and stuff was that because i feel like one of before i got a pass as an adult one of the last times i had been there had been around when jurassic park 3 had come out and there was like some sets and stuff

i feel like from the both of the movies we didn't go near them it was it was very like and over there is some Lost World stuff. Anyway, now, War of the Worlds. Or maybe it was right after War of the Worlds. Yeah. But, you know,

but there's still the drive-through where the raptors, no, I was going to say raptors spit at you. Oh, the Dilophosaurus. That's not correct. Yeah, yeah.

Dilophosaurus is, I need to run some, like, dinosaur flashcards or something. It'll come. My son is into one. Yeah, I was going to say is, I need to run some dinosaur flashcards or something. It'll come. My son is into them. Yeah, I was going to say, as the boy gets older, it'll come. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, he's not in the dinosaur phase quite yet.

No, he's pretty big in dinosaur phase, and he'll ask what things are. What's this one's name? I don't, but now he's just, it makes you feel was such a dumb 2020s, like, use your phone. Check your phone. Oh, there's been so many discoveries since we were kids in the 90s. There's been so many different discoveries about dinosaurs and stuff. So whatever you might have retained might not be true. Would be wrong.

It's better to not use what's in my head. Yeah, it's like the Plutos of dinosaur world my head because it's incorrect the pluto's of dinosaur world you know what are the things that have changed you know oh yeah well aren't we way more aware of the bird-like qualities and the than that they had feathers like that feels post-art childhood yeah yeah or more popularized post-art our childhood and then and then like the brontosaurus keeps going back and forth where it's like it wasn't a real dinosaur now people are like well we'll take this other skeleton that doesn't have a name and put brontosaurus because we all grew up with that being a dinosaur wait this is oh i didn't know that brontosaurus isn't wasn't real i knew that but but they've renamed a different skeleton

people have been trying to and then interesting and then like triceratops might not be its own thing anymore or like they might be combining it with like torvosaurus like i'm also like i mean you know i interview paleontologists sometimes on my podcast and it's always like i also jason i feel the same where like sometimes i'm like oh it's my knowledge just from when all the dinosaur dictionaries i had as a kid like i actually probably should be brushing up more on what's going on now. Cause there is stuff like that where it's like discovering new things. And I'm like, well, actually these five skeletons,

like all the scientists were drunk in the 1800s. So like, we actually got to like combine everything to get, cause like all that, all the paleontologists, it's such a trip. There's, I forget, there's a podcast where they talk about the bone wars, where it was like all these paleontologists mad that the others were discovering stuff, so they would destroy each other.

It was like scientists were insane in the 1800s. The bone wars? Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, turns out the spitters didn't really spit. They just kind of dripped, and they'd have to get directly over top of their prey. And it wasn't acid. No, it was just nasty. It was just nasty it was just nasty little

spit yeah it wasn't a xenomorph you know yeah what's the one i need to file this one away for uh future kid time what's the one that has that's it's almost the only way i can describe it is like it's bald oh pachycephalosaurus oh okay great great that sounds familiar i think i looked that up it's a pachycephalosaurus pachycephalosaurus because pete palsuit in the lost world he's trying to pronounce the name he's like he's like pachy pachy he's like the one with the bald spot fryer tuck oh wow okay so my knowledge is exactly in line with a guy who hates dinosaurs and is trying to hunt them yes exactly um i'm also getting can i ask also like is there any truth to uh the the notion that dinosaurs are some of them were

little and cute and all live on a dude ranch with a bunch of plucky kids which is the case on the show that my son watches all the time called dino ranch a disney plus show but i think was bought from canada dino ranch anybody with toddlers out there dino ranch is a show uh this is the highest endorsement i could give it in terms of toddler entertainment that doesn't make me want to claw my eyes out it's not a coco melon yes no we've never that's never entered our home i don't want it to maybe i'd like it more than it but i just i feel like i hear things i've heard things i don't want this coco melon yeah it seems like people start to like glaze over just like those bad cgi models or whatever they use yeah yeah yeah i think so yeah that seems like where parent madness enters but dino ranch is not camp cretaceous which is

the official jurassic jurassic which it plays, I believe, in the child swap room of this ride. Oh, really? Oh, cool. In the family room. That's a great idea. Well, yeah, bringing that up too, it's talking about the Jurassic World franchise

creating opportunities for rides and stuff. It is interesting that, or the most interesting aspect is the open theme park. So they've gone back to that well twice now with the when they redid the jurassic world ride or the jurassic park ride in universal and then now for velocicoaster they're like okay who cares about volcano uh dinosaurs coming to mainland like let's like let's sit in the open theme park let's make bryce tell us howard wear that or you know cut her hair again to be that Bob, you know. Severe, yes. In the pantsuit, in the heels.

That was a question I had. I guess just by virtue of timeline, Velocicoaster and Jurassic World the ride must be happening before the shit really hits the fan. It maybe happens before those kids come and then get with the babysitter and then everything goes haywire right so it's so you're on rides that happen maybe like a week or two before jurassic world the movie yeah i think that's kind i mean i think unlike star wars with all the you know the the all the detail-oriented chess that they're doing i think with jurassic world it's very much collins just kind of like just you know, the, the, all the detail oriented chess that they're doing. I think with Jurassic world, it's very much Collins. Just kind of like, just, you know,

takes place around the same time as the movie before, obviously before the movie and that even like the whole discussion of like that movie is like now labeled as a post Christmas movie, which is a weird space to be in. Cause in the beginning they there it's like snow. And then at the airport you can see like christmas trees and stuff okay so maybe have i never seen the beginning did i get to the theater late that is possible i've seen it i just don't remember yes yeah yeah because i was yeah i had a hook

up for free fat burger so yeah i was prioritizing that i'm like i think i'll pick up the i'll get the gist of jurassic world when i get there i mean it's very slight it's like one of those things really i think in one scene in and i think in the when um ty simpkins is like he's like playing with this christmas presents or something like in the opening scene of the movie or something it's very slight yeah yeah i was just this actually can i ask a quick question about your preference with the original Jurassic Park ride or the new? Do you have feelings on that, strong feelings or mild feelings? I mean, I was very lucky that I had the opportunity or just didn't have work that day.

On the very last day of the original Jurassic Park ride here in LA, I was there almost like all day, just like riding the ride as much as possible. Okay. Because I was just like, again, it's one of those weird things where it's like especially in LA it's like when are we going to be here when a new ride opens and when like a class like I don't remember when back to the future closed like I like even though I grew up here like I don't remember when that ride closed or or backdraft right backdraft was here in la right yeah yeah transformers now yeah and it was just like one of those things where i was like oh my gosh i'm like here when like a historic thing is like yes yeah it's like here in la we don't have that many rides

and it is weird there's not always a lot of like history especially universal yes right yeah they're just like starting to get there where things have been open for decades now yeah and it is one of the things you're right where it's like the only reason they didn't turn this into like a minions river adventure or something you know was because the drastic world franchise ended up being a surprise you know hit yeah the first one like did like almost like double the projections opening weekend or something crazy where they were like it's you, you know, it's just going to be fine. People like dinosaurs or whatever. And they're like,

no, actually people want to see these movies again, even if they're not great. It was like, all right, cool. We can reinvest in the parks and, you know,

do all that. It's crazy to me. The Velocicoaster was only built in like three years or something like that. We're like, yeah. Like, cause,

cause Jurassic world comes out in June of 2015. And like, maybe they were thinking about another ride before that, but like, it's just like thinking about how long it takes Disneyland to do stuff where you're like, oh, Velocicoaster, great, we need a new roller coaster, and then three or four years. I think listeners are probably pretty aware of the extreme length of Guardians and Tron, especially, and yeah, they jam this thing together, it feels like. I'm excited because they've broken ground on the coaster they're building out here, which the rumor is it's similar to this and similar to Guardians in a way as well. But they're building on the side of the mountain. It's Fast and Furious.

It's not Jurassic World. Oh, yeah, where the animal show was, right? Yes. But I'm like, are they going to finish this in seven months? Like, they're so fast at building stuff. We'll see. But yeah, so like, I do like the Jurassic World ride. I feel like you guys have talked before about like that notion that, you know, Universal,

it's like, oh, we're having a great day. Oh, no, something's wrong. Like, you know, like we're, you know, in the tomb. And then it's like, he lives. And, you know, like the Jurassic World ride, I feel like, is a little bit weirder in the fact that something goes wrong kind of right away now. So you don't have time to have the peaceful lagoon part. You're like, oh God, Mosasaur. And then you kind of go back to peaceful.

What's the cove? Is it Mosasaur or Hadrosaur? Hadrosaur Cove is the one that you never get to go in, that you get knocked off the path. So that part of like, in terms of the flow of the ride, is like a little disrupted in that way, because you're like, Mosasaur tank, which looks amazing. And then you go back to kind of like this.

Wait, Mosasaur is the underwater? Yes. Okay, the whale dinosaur thing. Is that real? Yes, that's real. That's real. And they were that big? Yeah, yeah.

Wow. Okay, crazy. Yeah. The size may have been exaggerated a little bit. But Mosasaur eats the woman in the first Jurassic World. Yeah, she gets dropped in her mouth. Right. The brutal death.

Yeah, yeah. My favorite. And I'm glad she was on her iPhone too much. Yeah, they're like. She wasn't babysitting well enough that's always like because jurassic park hates lawyers and jurassic world is like well we hate personal assistants you know like you're like oh geez i don't like you know again being in 2015 they're like you know trying to make it in la and we're like uh like i know like is she punished in a way for Bryce Dallas Howard's sins? Is it like the nephews come and she's so busy with her extremely complicated park that she runs

that she doesn't put a proper childcare person in charge or spend the time with them that she should. I've seen the reading of this movie that it's like like this ambitious woman fuck her for her like there's something kind of you might you might be able to read into a lot of the work of this director oh okay there's some odd feelings interesting yeah yeah my favorite bit of fan art that somebody's done is uh it's because you know the indominus also gets eaten by the Mosasaur at the very end. Oh, yeah. There's like it's it's Katie McGrath's character, the Pteranodon that also gets swallowed with her and the Indominus all like playing cards like next to a campfire in the stomach of the Mosasaur. I forget what that originally a reference to, but I just really like that idea that they're all like, oh, all the things that have been eaten are like now it's like pinocchio oh yeah yeah they got a couple

days it's gonna be that's gonna be a slow dissolve yeah it's gonna take three weeks minimum um but yeah i i do i do like that they you know fixed up all the dinosaurs gave them all a new coat of paint and stuff sure sure um and yeah and then i really do think, because I feel like when Laura Dern or people talk about working in the original Jurassic Park, they're like, oh, this giant animatronic could literally crush me. Like the actual physical animatronic, not that it's a dinosaur, but like this giant robot.

And I feel like the Indominus at the end of the Jurassic World ride here, like gives you that sense of like, wow, that's like just a fully walking robot. Like it kind of gives you that sense of wow, that's just a fully walking robot. It kind of gives you a little bit of... The scope of it. Yes.

Well, it's cool they didn't just screen it. And now granted, the beginning, Mosasaur is a screen, but it's a unique screen situation. It feels like worth doing a screen there. With the water effect. I love that. Yeah. I was so delighted the first time we wrote it.

Yeah, yeah. Anytime people are surprised, you know, they're just sort of like looking ahead or whatever, and you're like, you have no idea. Like, what's that good about it? Yeah. And you just get drenched if you just, I feel like if you sit in the middle,

you get it the worst, I feel like, maybe. Yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah. I've now realized front row center on that thing i'm sure i said in an episode i got i got souped i got the biggest souping of a lifetime yeah yeah like a degree i was pretty like you it's when you enter the big building and not the drop but you kind of like go into the water oh yeah at the top of the and there's just suddenly it felt like slow motion looking i'm like I had four seconds to watch this wave. And I felt like it went to my lap and not even the people next to me.

Yeah, everyone else is bone dry. Yeah, yeah. That's when they turned the water up in the summer. I don't know. Well, no, this was a chilly evening. Oh, really? Yeah, I wish. It might have been okay during that.

I think I had a movie to see and I'm just sitting there. That's why I always like doing this, I ride Jurassic World and then I ride the mummy afterwards to sort of dry off a little bit I know it doesn't have the flames part but there's flames in there somewhere, right? you can get a little dry there's gotta be at least one flame in that ride

at least the wind, you know, the wind of it not fans, I'm sure there wasn't built in fans in in there but well we're not sure i don't know you have to talk to the jury's out on the fans we're figuring out the fans um let me say this the uh i don't go on the mummy a lot i now will definitely go on mummy orlando and look forward to it i don't do it a lot here i guess i find it generally unpleasant, but that still maybe falls into the launch territory for me. And full disclosure, I did not go on VelociCoaster, and I'm not here to make excuses.

I got on up to the fact that I did not, and that we're doing an episode about something that I just was not brave enough to do ultimately. I will just say I've come a long way on this show i wasn't even going to splash mountain way thank you thanks for saying that's dude i don't but this this does feel like uh that what to me and maybe you guys can correct to me this feels like another level i think this is out of the comfort zone uh i i it seemed like a little too far beyond i also as has come up maybe a few times or if you heard one of our orlando live shows i lost my voice real bad and i've realized that like i have

a couple bits of armor now i i'm going on rides one is holding harness mommy i want to hold my i need to grip that thing yeah and they do not have that on this ride just a lap so that i'm i'm screwed there i've also realized that just like huge guttural yells is gonna help me out on launches a lot because uh aaron my wife realized like you're closing your eyes and you're just like internalizing it so you're gonna like you're gonna like shake yourself to death that's crazy just like eyes open yell it out get it all yes so truth um thank you i'm trying to uh uh but i realized like if i can't scream my ass off on this thing i mean i can't or there won't be live the live shows are canceled so i'm losing that armor interesting i i like and so i you know i still feel like it's possible i could try this

thing but also now that i've laid all that out and i think and you know my you guys know my level you know what i've done and what was like a little too much for me or what it um what do you what do you think are my chances do you think that i could end up enjoying this or not? Oh, it's really intense. It's like really intense. But here's what else. Oh, sorry. But it's smooth. Yes, it is smooth. This is the big thing about it is because it reminded me so much of Twisted Colossus,

which freaked the shit out of me and Gio when we did it for the first time. Yeah. Also, this one did crush my genitals a little bit like that one. Just a squeeze. Just a little bit like that one. Just a squeeze. Just a little bit of pushing. Just a pressure test. Pushing my penis into my body. That is what happened on here.

So I went on it three times. Bit of a forced tuck. The first time was the worst because I wasn't prepared for it. But so many things parallel twisted Colossus, which legit freaked me out doing it. There was only the lap bar, so it makes it feel like you're going to fly out. Same thing with Velocicoaster. Similar kind of twists, like the barrel roll, but I truly never felt in danger like that.

So the smoothness and the newness of it was giving me a completely different sense of safety. Now, Jason's's correct it's intense but i went on hulk after velocity coaster and i was like hulk is so much rougher like it's rattling my spine around so you're gonna be freaked out but i go but there's a sense of like being handled in a comfortable way like there's a sense of like safety on this ride that i don't feel on other big coasters so that's the only thing i think that can i would say in the favor of you going on i think you're going to be freaked going on it for sure the first time but it's so smooth it feels like you're

flying and it doesn't feel like you're to me it doesn't feel like you're feeling this like oh my god this thing's coming apart and that's the difference to me, it doesn't feel like you're feeling this. Like, oh, my God, this thing's coming apart. And that's the difference to me. Was it Adam we were with at Universal who said. He freaked out? Yeah, like a near panic attack. I would say I was on the fence and it was a day where maybe you guys were going to do it. And then a near panic attack was described to me.

And I'm like, that'll do it. Tapping out. Bye. I was going to say, it's funny you talked about hulk because i went on hulk for the first time too and i went after the velocicoaster right and that i i didn't feel like i was gonna pass out but i feel like it was that you could it was definitely that feeling of like you are yeah you are definitely like manhandled like roughly you are just likehandled roughly on that. You are just going through turbulence, in the worst turbulence of your life on a plane, and that's what it feels like.

You're rattling, and you can have fun on it. It's still kind of fun. Steven just found the difference. You want to be handled, not manhandled. Manhandled is like throwing luggage on a bed. That's not being careful. Even though you imagine a man doing the handling, you'd think you'd be in good hands,

but they're bad hands, the man hands. So you just want to be handled, not man handled. Well, the Hulk has these crazy G-forces. And I feel like Velocicoaster, it's more like airtime. It feels like that when they shot Apollo 13 and they did the thing where they're diving in the plane and you're floating for a couple seconds. Parabola. Yeah.

It feels like there's seven moments on the ride where you're kind of just floating. I kept laughing, and I did this on Guardians 2. I was laughing, too. I kept laughing because I couldn't believe the feeling I was having on it. Yeah. It was almost like this weird euphoria. I was still kind of freaked the first time, but I was in this weird euphoric state when I came off of it, which is why I've been like obsessed with it.

Yeah, it felt high afterwards. It felt absolutely high because of the amount of times where I just was like, I'm flying. I feel like I'm flying. Yeah. You come out of your seat. Do you not? Yeah, you come out of your seat a few times.

It goes over the top. Oh, my God. Yeah. So't it goes over the top oh my god yeah and it so wait there's no over the shoulder restraints so you can't hug that there's only the lap restraints but as a shorter man i love that because i'm ping-ponging around in those shoulder restraints yeah yeah yeah i've come that can happen a whole to a tall man oh yeah totally in whole yeah but like that happened when we were the time before that I remember I like I'm like am I graying out on this no I felt a little bit of that on Hulk yeah some of that yeah and I think as it's going on I mean they they changed the

track a number of years ago but I still swear the original one is smoother like I might be right there was definitely that euphoria on the VelociCoaster, especially like you were saying earlier of like when you go, it almost feels like your head is like going to touch the water or at least you feel a little bit of mist or something. You almost feel like Heath Ledger is the Joker hanging outside the car. You know, you're just like, oh, like this is like. That sounds fun.

There's that element of like, yeah, I think it is the, like the fact that you kind of feel like you're floating rather than being like dragged along a, on a strip or something. Yes. Especially that last, the last barrel roll over the water.

You're just like, I can imagine like being Superman or something or fly. Like I'm flying upside down over the water. And then obviously it lasts like a half second or something, but you are probably 15 to 20 feet above the water. But it feels like you're right above it. It feels like I'm going right in the water. But no point did I ever even...

Here's what's... And I don't know. You might, Scott, you might not react like this. No point did my brain even register the reality in the gravity of... Literally the gravity or the actual gravity of like because one of the first parts is they kind of make you feel like you're gonna fly into some jagged rocks yeah never i was like ah that's funny like cool i didn't do it like and then the water thing you're like this feels like they could be like torturing like dunking everyone's heads yeah i know exactly

but instead of being like afraid i was just like my head's heads in the water as you go. But instead of being like afraid, I was just like, woo, yeah, my head's going in the water, whatever. I didn't register that. All week from like Port of Entry or Marvel Super Island, I was looking at it. And eventually it became my phone like background. My home, Jane took like a photo of the sunset and the top hat and the the track is there and the

lit up uh olive oil boat like it is a very beautiful photo me ship the olive me ship the olive and then i'm like it wasn't until last night i realized like oh my god velocity coasters on my home screen as we're amazing we're researching all tends to get, you know, when you've got me ship the olive there, that pulls focus. Yeah, and it's a beautiful sunset, but like... Yeah, but the Velocicoaster. But the Velocicoaster's there. And when they were building all this, I was

so worried that, like, oh, this is gonna ruin the skyline. It's gonna ruin, you're not gonna be able to go. And they worked around it. They, like they worked around it they like built the only thing that closed was the old triceratops encounter they demolished entirely oh yeah they put her out to pasture oh no to build the ride old yeller style oh no you're not real also and then they shot it you didn't exist you have to go you never were but the track is so like built into everything

and they even you can get to the ride entrance by there's a pathway or you can come out the ground floor of the discovery center and you still can see the view across the port of entry. So like all of that is preserved. And there's a special on the making of the Lost Coaster on Peacock, which was very fun. You know, you got Trevorrow in there. You got Frank Marshall. Wait, was this the one with Mario Lopez?

Mario Lopez is narrating for some reason. Thierry Coup, a long time Universal creative guy is in there. A number of people who worked on the ride. It's funny. I rewatched this and I swear to God I had watched the entire thing before. I had zero memory of Frank Marshall speaking.

And he does speak. A couple times. How could you not remember? How? A lot of it. Clearly, he had a lot of, you know, we wanted to do something bigger and better than it had ever been done before.

Okay, write that down. Write down what Frank said. Yeah. To Frank, I don't think Frank, there's no footage of him going on this ride, though. Do you think Frank would do it? Maybe he hasn't been on it. I don't know.

I don't think so. I don't know. An older man, maybe he shouldn't. Maybe he shouldn't. Yeah, bad for your ticker, you know? But it's so smooth. It is very smooth, yeah. I would say, Frank, don't go on the Hulk,

but maybe this one. Have you guys talked about it? Because that's like the fun fact of like Steven Spielberg like rode the original Jurassic Park ride and gets off. I feel like that's like a theme park, you know, one of the big trivia. Oh, got off at the top.

Yeah, he didn't want to get wet. It always made me so mad that like, so I need, I could, park you know one of the big trivia at the top yeah you didn't want to get wet and and it always made me so mad that like so i need i could the only way to do that is to have the power of spielberg yeah yeah stop it um because that's what i still in a way so i will still be going up the splash mountain or the soon to be tiana's uh lift and like still kind of like that spielberg treatment if i could they should just give you the option alright anybody out yeah I'll do it one last call can I pull a string

like a bus work lights come on I think we were all at the premiere of the ride of the Dress for the 2019 I was there too that night you were there too? did we talk about this before? I don't think we had but it was one of those things oh Oh, the fireworks were very

upsetting. I felt like they set them off right behind us. But I think, Mike, were you saying that you tried to get on the ride with Colin like at some point? We saw Colin and we thought he was heading to the ride and we were like, you know, if we follow him we could get on the ride with

him, but he was leaving. Yeah, the accident was the sane spot. Yeah, we didn't do it too aggressively. We just happened to be walking. We're like, oh, he's walking. We could go on the ride with the director of the movie. I feel like he didn't get off, I feel like. He probably did.

Yeah, he might have toughed it out. Yeah, yeah. So you were at that premiere. Do you remember anything else? Do you remember any speeches or any lack of speeches? You know, it's so funny because when i listened to that episode too i was like totally with mike i'm like yeah totally and then then i was like go i actually went back through like some of the footage and things that i take

from them i was like oh i guess he didn't talk that but i was totally with you remembered him i was totally yeah because just he's he's become such a you know spokesperson for the franchise in a way. Right. The franchise of Margaritaville. Yes. Well, that. But it was one of those things.

He's the new Jimmy. He's taking the mantle. He's taking the mantle, yeah. He should take his name, too. Yeah, of course. I am officially changing my name. Frank Jimmy Marshall. Fine.

This is a Kathleen Kennedy and Jimmy Buffett production. Half the people at the concert wouldn't know. I mean, if you're in the back row you can't like yes i think so yeah he's got the flip-flops on i thought he died but i guess not it's better than a hologram you know it is yeah yeah sure absolutely uh um i uh it's fine i feel like with some of these little scandal these things where i say the reality such as that frank marshall didn't speak such as that it is a, spoiler if you're not on the second gate,

that the George Clooney story is a suitcase story, not a briefcase story. Right. Or the one that we still don't have the proof on, Eisner and the, Eisner being the golfer. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Soren.

I feel like I'm ending up right, and yet I think people want the spirit. I feel like, am I maybe- What's the Jebediah's free feel? Yeah, Jebediah's free feel. I'm ending up right, and yet I think people want the spirit. I feel like maybe I'm doing a disservice to these tales by unraveling them. Our audience wanted so much for Frank Marshall to have spoken at the event. I did. Again, I was so ready. I was right there. And then I literally went back to my stuff that I had taken for the podcast.

I was like, oh, yeah, I'm totally going to back Mike up on this. And then I literally went back to my stuff that I had taken for the podcast. I was like, oh, yeah, like, I'm totally going to back mic up on this. And I was like, oh, no. Oh, did you think you could prove it wrong? I thought I thought I could prove it, to be honest. Because, yeah, like I because, you know, I was like creating content or whatever, trying to like from that night of like because, again, it's like how often do we get to be around for a brand new ride opening? Like that was so exciting. Yeah, yeah. No, it we get to be around for a brand new ride opening? Yeah, that's true. Like that was so exciting. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah.

It was awesome to be at for sure. But yeah, it was like going through the Watergate, you know. There must be a way. The Jurassic Gate hearings. Let's talk. Before we dive fully into just like what the ride does and the emotion of it, anything from the pre-show or the queue that we want to shout out. Yeah, yeah.

First of all, I'd like to talk about the lockers. Yeah. Because the lockers, and they have these on Tron now as well at Disney World. This is an innovation. I don't know who did this first, but the locker, you put your stuff in one side and it comes out another side.

Yeah, we haven't talked about that. Yeah, that was odd on Tron. Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting, and this works so 100 times better than the Harry Potter system of going in this crowded little room. You're packed and fighting with people and looking for an open computer screen to touch a button and then try to figure out what that opened up.

God help you if somebody is like several below you. There's a problem that you, like not since high school, you didn't think you'd have to deal with this again. Yeah, exactly. Somebody's hunched down or you're the one hunched down and somebody's reaching over you.

Yeah, and Hulk has, like Hulk, it's not as crammed because it's outside with all these, but like I was having a big problem getting into one of those free lockers. Oh, the Hulk ones are so far away from it. And then some of them are like paid and some of them weren't working.

And then I'm like trying to find somebody and I'm like, do I need like a physical ticket? Like I was so confused, but the way they do it now. When we were in Orlando before, I believe you were like a seeing eye dog for me because I had to put my glasses in the Hulk lockers. And we had to walk through the whole queue. We had to walk like a block to the

queue and then through the queue and i was just like i got on all fours fully magooing it i put a leash on yeah and jason just walked yeah he held the leash as i don't growl at anybody who gets too close do not pet him please it was fun it was a fun time. It was innocent also. It wasn't like a weird sex thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it sounds like. So I had a different experience on VelociCoaster because, you know, I had the scooter when we were in Orlando. Yeah, sure. And this was universal.

I have to commend them, you know, a number of attractions. They're like, oh, they can't really bring that in the queue. Can you transfer to a wheelchair? So I got in a wheelchair and jane pushed me so i kind of went like a roundabout way through the queue and i took an elevator up oh you got to do an elevator so i got to an elevator so i i didn't really go past the lockers because she just stayed with the stuff oh okay and i got on on exiting side. But as a result of that, she was able to clock the car and videotape me

and then we were able to go frame by frame and find me on the coaster. Yes. Just like smiling like a pig and shit, like having a ball, the best time of my life. Here's the photo. here's the sunset photo i was talking about beautiful posted and other people yeah my phone back yeah yeah everybody's the city beautiful so the port beautiful um uh but universal very team members very good about

like helping people on if they need assistance allowing extra time like on doom and uh i also switched a wheelchair for villain con so i got to do villain con seated oh really yeah oh we didn't talk about they're just like yeah when you get on the moving walkway lock those wheels please did you do tron did you do tron i didn't do Tron? I didn't do Tron. Okay, because that's the only other place with these innovative lockers. Yes. I just wanted to make sure. Two doors. Two doors on each side.

They said it couldn't be done. I love these lockers. I was also thinking you were talking about the lockers that are like of the workers and there's like. Oh, sure, sure. You know, Ian Malcolm's book there and Alan grant's book and like you know like again because it is that thing of like you know i think harry potter has such an advantage and star wars as well where it's like these fantastical worlds and stuff and dress world is like it's like the zoo but with like a little extra zhuzh you know so it i i used to draw on i got yeah yeah like how

many beakers and amber like slabs can we throw in here? So I like having the callbacks to Jurassic Park with the book of Ian Malcolm and the book of Alan Grant. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. Also, like attraction posters. Oh, really? Also attraction posters for the real ones for River Adventure and Tyrandeantan flyers but then like ride the gyrosphere yeah it's not something they figured out how to do although i also realized um the one in beijing

we were talking about was apparently developed as a gyrosphere ride and then they it i think it proved too uh insane or uh ambitious or but they they filed patents for it they figured out how to which it would have been the kind of vehicle where you think it you're supposed to feel like you're going on it like you're being moved on the ground but the mechanism's up above you uh so you're being swung oh okay it would have yeah it would have been like that because yeah it's that thing of in the original movies all the glass is cgi like there's no there was no physical glass on them complicated yeah just like a glass ball that's supposed to be rotating around like that's probably as just as sci-fi as the dinosaur part you know the gyrospheres yeah yeah that's true yeah but then i love but then you you like ground

it in that you're watching little jimmy fallon skits in the yeah i liked that part of it i'm like wow they have the videos in the ride are what it would be in reality yeah i think they filmed that on the snl set oh that's cool i think so i believe i believe huh that when they they did that they wanted it to have that like your side of the old school like sketch light oh sure yeah yeah oh interesting huh that's cool. That's cool. The Q has- But can I just say, I'd like to vouch for Colin Trevorrow to host SNL. Can we get that campaign?

On the record, yeah. You're going to know me for my movies, not for being on screen. It should have happened after the book. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't even finish the name of it. Because it's just- Yeah, that's how I call it.

It's like going, yeah, yeah, we know. When we say the book, we mean the book of it. Because it's just. That's how I call it. It's like going. It's like going. Yeah, yeah, we know. When we say the book, we mean the book. The book is not the Bible. The book is the book of Henry. The good book. Have you read the good book? By that, I mean the feature film, The Book of Henry. They have animatronic-ish stuff.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I guess it moves, so it's animatronics. But it's, yeah, raptors with the big, what, metal muzzles? Muzzles, yeah. Which are really cool. And those are sequences in the movie, like these awful, restricted, these locks that make you,

these face locks that make you upset when you see them in the movie. But that's all CGI. So like the Indominus, it's crazy to take a CGI moment and recreate it in reality so lifelike and to worry like i swear you can like look at footage of those raptors in the queue and think you're watching cgi footage it's really it's it's really good and it's also like it is kind of minimal movement for it as well like if you watch them they're minimal movement but it's just enough to make them feel alive. The cheeks and the eyes. Yeah. And then the cage or whatever behind them rattles,

but the face doesn't do what... So you're able to get this really impressive moment without having this full body, super complex animatronic. And it's really well smartly done. To me, it seems like just some sort of minimal effects, like a smart use of whatever technology. Let me ask this. The Mario Lopez special we've been discussing, this big chunk that is about creating the smell.

We had to think about what a Velociraptor smells like. I did not go in this queue. They don't really try to say what it smells like in the special. Did any of you guys get a sense of the smell do you know what a raptor smells like i wish i could say that i remembered what it smelled like because it was a while ago but i mean it definitely like the vibe of of what i would imagine a real jurassic world you know it's just the metal and there's like a like a rain you know petrichor like the metal. There's a rain, petrichor, the scent of the rain on the sidewalk kind of stuff.

But I was like, the way they talked about it in the special, they're like, blood. And I'm like, I don't remember any of that. What does blood smell like? Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember a smell at all. Maybe they stopped doing the smells.

There are no smells. Maybe there are no smells. Maybe the blood was throwing people off. Yeah, everyone's just like really sick on the ride. It was like, oh my God, blood. Oh no, something awful happened. And you get a little Mr. DNA in there, voiced by somebody new and not the person,

Stephen, you were talking about before the show. Oh yeah. Who held people at gunpoint. The voice of Mr. DNA. Yeah, the voice, yeah, the voice yeah great person it was just one of those things where you know like there is these trivia points where we like oh you know there's only this amount of cgi in the original jurassic park and you know like um just just kind of the basic you know oh the sounds of the raptors are like dolphins and tortoises having sex. Like, you know, these kind of like the basic trivia that we all know about, like the things we like. And but that was like a trivia that I did not know.

I was like, oh, yeah. Who did the voice of Mr. DNA? Because I think it was either Brad Bird or Colin Trevorrow did the voice of Mr. DNA. Oh, I think that's right. Colin did it? I think I remember seeing that. Yeah. Yeah. I think or Brad Bird. Host SNL. Put him in a costume. He'd be Mr. DNA. Oh, I think Holland did it in the... I think I remember seeing that, yeah. Yeah, I think...

You can't host SNL. Put him in a costume. He'd be Mr. DNA in a skin. Hey, it's me. He has guns. I can't believe I'm in Studio 8, H. Or I think Brad Bird maybe did the voice of an intercom person in Jurassic World.

Oh, I didn't know that. But yeah, it's funny that they've started to bring Mr. DNA back into marketing and things like that. Oh, merch. Yeah, merch is a thing. As they were coming up with the 30th, I feel like you were seeing more Mr. DNA merch around. Yeah, yeah. Because it is this weird part of that movie where it is like we're watching a cartoon

for two minutes in the middle of a blockbuster movie. But I feel like movies now do that a lot more, have little animated sequences trying to explain a concept or something. Or show, I don't know why Ice Age was the first example, but the Ice Age where they have the cave paintings that animates his past or whatever. Oh, I like a good thing.

Coco starts with a lot of that like that like paper cut up i don't know yeah yeah yeah that but like like a big chunk of backstory is explained that way and you don't realize you're like eating your vegetables because it looks so you get lost in how cool and unique it looks um you said another one in there though that i didn't know which is the turtles having sex is uh one of the velociraptor sounds i think it's like one of the yeah it's like two tortoises have it, because... It's like a screech. Yeah, yeah, it's like,

ah, yeah, like... Not the, because I'm thinking of the, and you're wearing Crocs, or Croc-esque... No, they are official Crocs. They are Crocs, okay, okay. Let the record stay. But like, because I'm so fond of the,

if you've ever watched a video of a turtle having sex with a Croc. No. Oh my God. Yes, exactly. Oh yes, I have seen this, yeah, yeah. fond of the like if you ever watch video of a turtle having sex with a croc yes exactly I have seen this yeah it's the most tender sound it's not like sex it's romance that's nice

Gary Rydstrom like pitched that down stretched it out and then it becomes the raptor scream wow turned it into something mean something so so passionate so affectionate uh um all right well cool appreciate okay i was saying you know what i think when i was talking about the aesthetic it's partly the black or like blue gray whatever aesthetic but also there is a cruelty to jurassic world i think what i actually i'm more responding to is that the majesty of the first Jurassic Park I do miss

in like maybe the new Jurassic World ride and then some of this like you're going through this queue and it's not like oh dinosaurs are wonderful it's like they're locked up they will kill you there you're missing a little of that which is what I'm wistful or nostalgic for that's the only difference now it's good it's cool it's just that's the difference I think I think you're more than colors that I'm talking about Owen uh literally tells you, do not ride this ride. Is that correct? I missed that clip. The video is pretty wild.

Yeah. Because for one of my rides, I got to see most of it. And I'm like, this feels like a 10-minute argument. And there's a Larry David. I'm not going on this ride. Bryce Ellis Howard just kind of looking at the camera. That's what I mean. He's like a Werner Herzog character. Like Bryce Ellis Howard just kind of like looking at the camera, like, you know, like, like,

cause as he's just like, that's what I mean. He's like a Werner Herzog character. Like, like the Antarctica documentary that Werner Herzog did, which is my favorite. You know, the penguins go into the wilderness, you know,

into madness. And it's like, he interviews all these scientists who are like in Kate, like they went down to Antarctica who like, like have ceased talking to other humans and are just like studying whatever. It's like, that was, I feel like on a are like, they went down to Antarctica who have ceased talking to other humans and are just like studying whatever. It's like that was, I feel like, a better filmmaker would have pulled that out. But that's part of the Q video. It's like Owen just being like, this is bad.

We're all going to die. What are you doing? These people are, why would you build this here? And she's like, Owen, it's over. We're doing it. It's live now. There's cameras And she's like, Owen, it's over. We're doing it. It's live now. There's cameras on us right now, Owen. Wow, they were really like pumping out new rides.

Velocicoaster, the Indominus. Yeah, all of this. And what we said about the timeline where this all happens right before. Okay, things are bad in Jurassic World the movie. So if we've had a predominant escape into the T-Rex paddock and a boat dropped and the Velocicoaster went haywire too and they kept the park open, she still had her nieces over? It all happened on Christmas Day. And that logic too that it's like, wait, they're going to visit her nieces over? It is making... It all happened on Christmas Day. And that logic, too,

that it's like, wait, they're going to visit her at Christmas time? Like, that park's going to be at capacity. I don't know if that's the best time to have visitors. Isn't there less crowd on Christmas? No, not at Jurassic World. You should wait until the new year. You should wait until that first couple weeks in January.

It's very slow when it's mostly just cheer competitions and football competitions. Yeah, I went and sang in choir at Jurassic World. Yeah. I did marching band. I actually marched down the thoroughfare.

I blew my trumpet in the direction of Brookstone. I was going to say, though, the parents were getting divorced and they couldn't schedule that. Yeah, yeah. So that was the whole thing. Well, that is true. I know what that's like. Divorce, it's, yeah. Shoved off the theme off the theme park yeah oh that was some of the better parts you know that was

smoother um but it's it's it really they they paint claire if you put up piece all this together is incredibly irresponsible the guy there's no like it's universal is a little bit more like cheeky likey like danger stuff and like Doctor Doom says ignore safety measures on the fear of fall and stuff but this one is the star of the movie who knows dinosaurs very well being like this is terrible don't do it why

would you build this dinosaur expert a velociraptor a guy who can talk to them is like stop it don't do it turn this ship around and he's not saying it to the villain of the film no he's saying it to the other star he not saying it to the villain of the film no he's saying it to the other star he's saying it to somebody who he wants to have sex with very much yeah yeah right and this is gonna ruin his chances yeah he should be going oh great idea

i know why do they keep working together yeah yeah it seems every interaction is as combative as can be well yeah but by the time you get to Dominion, they're like full on making out on Cabin in the Woods. Well, yeah, they've adopted a clone child. Yeah, they got the clone child. Ellie and Alan couldn't make it work, you know? They didn't have that Owen Clare spark. That electric chemistry that we see in all these rides.

The tension from screaming at each other about Velocicoaster eventually built to that moment. Oh, yeah. It just comes to a head where it's like, come on, we all know what's going on here. We know what this argument is really about. That would be great if in Dominion

they just had a reference to the Velocicoaster just as a little Easter egg of like, in that time when we let people get chased by Delta, Blue, Echo, and Charlie. Yeah. Our favorite rafters. All four of them ate a head. Yeah.

You said it couldn't happen because the ride goes 70 miles an hour, but all of my rafters ate a full head that day. Okay. I was going to say, if I was a kid, though, because I would always buy into the pre-show stuff as a kid, and I've said it going to this place called Pirate's Cove, which was a small place, like amusement park, where I grew up.

There was this UFO ride that explained we were going into space. And I bought whatever the pre-show, whatever the video said to me. And if I was in line for this, and I was scared in nine or 10, and I'm like, what are we doing? Yeah, yeah.

The stars of the movie are saying. Someone I trust. They're arguing in the middle of trying to tell us what this ride is about. Before the ride begins. They argue more than they say what it is. And these are the takes they use. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to go on a tangent.

I think I can't not expel this from my head. While we're talking about the portrayal of females in colin trevorrow films oh yeah i was just sometimes i'm like how do you go from safety not guaranteed to what is his how did he get that why is he jurassic world i'm so i don't know much about him or where he came from i feel like there's so much lore about spielberg of course you know everything about spielberg and he was on the lot and we don't know the story of Colin. Well, I was going to say the one thing that

I find very interesting was that I think originally Brad Bird was going to do Force Awakens but only if Colin Trevorrow was going to just prep the movie. I might have some of this wires crossed but it was like,

because they wanted JJ and then he said no. And then I think Brad Bird was going to do it. But then he was like, well, I'm doing the Tomorrowland. Right, he picked Tomorrowland. But then he was already in prep for that. So it was like,

oh, I'll do Force Awakens, but only like I need help basically. And so I think Colin originally was going to prep Force awakens which that feels like such a weird consolation i've never heard that that feels like the uh prairie home companion robert altman paul thomas anderson standby director yeah yeah i mean i might have some of this cross but these names were all swirling around that's fascinating well it's interesting because he fell into the like he makes the move like that that happened a bunch in the recent past with going sort of from a smallish movie to being like to doing like the biggest

thing with the craziest budget and then once you're i think once it was a huge hit the first one it was like well i guess we plug him in yeah because then yeah he would been announced for doing episode nine so he's doing it can i just can i just knock one out real quick it's called book of henry it won't trouble anybody one for them one for me you'll see it's yeah yeah but it's gonna be one for them too you'll see people are gonna want to see sickleman and uh a woman doing an assassination guided by her dead son watch the movie if you haven't seen the movie yes uh i beseech you to watch book of henry but here's what i did i was like what is the root of colin and i and on wikipedia there there's a mention of colin's first short film from 2002 it's called home base home base is a movie

where it's a it's short film eight minutes but a lot is packed into it. It's very like mini DV, like old blocky digital. And basically it's about a woman who comes to her boyfriend and says, you know, I have to tell you, this is hard, but I had a connection with your boss at the company picnic. And it just made me feel like maybe we need to end this. And this isn't, you know, I'm just so sorry. I feel terrible about it but maybe we aren't meant to be and then the guy is this kind of snarkster craig healy guy and he's like okay all right uh well you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna fuck your mom uh excuse me yeah uh i'm gonna fuck your mom uh why don't you go home and tell your mom uh get ready to get

fucked oh whoa you can't hey hey hey and, hey. What? And he leaves the restaurant. And then sure enough, the next scene is him showing up at the house like, I'm here for Mildred. And then he goes on a date with the woman's mom. And then it's unclear whether anything's happened or not, but the woman has a fight with her mom. And then this is, yeah, this is the mom character. Is it such a shock that your mother wants to fuck? Your mother wants to fuck! And then... This is the first sparkles of the Trevorrow filmmaking.

No podcast has ever tackled this. I don't think so. Although Wikipedia claims that this was like, this movie had 25 million views in a pre-YouTube world. Maybe this was like an ifilm.com. E-bombs world? Yeah, it might've been. It might've been like, dude, you gotta see this mom fucking movie.

I mean, I guess that I could see like college kids being like, did you see the one where the old lady says that she wants to fuck? Like, I guess I could kind of see that logic. And if there's not a lot of stuff, if he put it on there. This is available, by the way, on YouTube and on what seems to be Colin Trevorrow's Vimeo channel. It's just listed as him. But anyway, this is too much for the woman. And she goes to the husband, almost in tears.

And she's like, I'm sorry. Okay, I just don't want this. Please don't have sex with my mom. Whatever I did, I'm just sorry. I don't, she's like breaking down. And the guy's response is like, hey, hey, it's okay. I don't think you're shallow. I think you've got something wrong.

You're just emotionally completely disconnected. I mean, that whole orgasm thing, it's not my fault if you can't come. I've tried everything. You've done everything. You're just, you're emotionally frigid. You're physically frigid.

What? And she just listens and agrees. And that's the end of the movie? No, because the end of the movie is she comes downstairs

and the guy's there in a bathrobe and clearly did fuck her mom. The end, directed by Colin Trevorrow. Now you know that. Now the audience knows that.

It's about, it's a movie. It's a movie about a hero who says he'll have sex with a mom, then says you were too frigid to come, then does have sex with the mom. And this is where it ends. This is who is in charge of the Jurassic Park franchise. Well, Stephen, did you know that?

No. I mean, do you want to do a full breakdown? I think he's done. If you want to do the Donald Trump, I'm hearing this for the first time reaction. I'm hearing this for the first time. I've never heard this before. She was very

frigid he told us safety's not guaranteed my thing is that it's one of those things where Jurassic Park fans are very much like well yeah there's not going to be any more movies like clearly as much as people enjoyed the movies

enough Transformers style nobody's holding on to Claire and Owen in the same way that maybe like a Marvel, well now we've been saying that now it doesn't matter anymore because nobody wants Marvel anymore. But like, um, I feel like at least Bryce Ellis Howard lately has like done some of the best

Star Wars. Like she's, she's been a really great television director and I feel like just let her have these movies. Cause I feel like she, at least it's kind of, I always feel like all blockbuster movies have like one actor who's like actually nerdy and into the thing that they're in,

you know? Yeah. Um, and I feel like she has been kind of a, actually been like, Oh, I know what it's like to run away from green screen dinosaurs, like actors on the volume and stuff. Like I can, you oh yeah yeah help you like to help you sell stuff better and not

just be lot like because i imagine big movies like this uh michael j fox talked about this and back to the future forever good that you can like everybody's so worried about effects and all the like you know all the big meaty stuff that, the actor ends up like alone and like nobody's tending to, nobody's really directing them. I mean, even like, um, oh my God.

Um, I was gonna say Gandalf, uh, Sir Ian McKellen, even like, you know, if you watch those, like hop,

the making of Hobbit movies, he's like having like a mental breakdown. He's just like in a green room by himself, having to act against like 12 dwarves and Martin Freeman, you know. This was going around. I think I'm probably like stealing the framing of this as like an existential nightmare. But there was footage that came like raw footage of Space Jam and like what that was like for Michael Jordan. We're like and action.

And then he's on a green screen and then he's swarmed by four fully green guys all the way and he has to defend a basketball against them it is it is a true nightmare yeah i yeah my my hope is that because i mean they're gonna make it's like that was that thing too it's like well they're done after dress school it's like no they're not like like like i think they i think they're putting it on ice in the sense because i think people are realizing that like when you don't miss a movie franchise you're going to get sick of it because with everything that's been going on. But I feel like, yeah, just get Bryce Ellis Howard, who's kind of used to working on leaner TV settings, kind of make it smaller again. Sure.

All that stuff where it's like, yeah, and then get Clint Howard to pop in maybe. I'm surprised he's never been in a Jurassic oh my god what's the second Jurassic World it's Fallen Kingdom yeah that's the haunted house one and like I really like that no yeah I really love that too that whole part is cause Jay Bayona directed

that one and so he did like the impossible and some other stuff, but like horror movies. Yeah. Oh yeah. The orphanage and stuff. And it's like,

you know, I think dinosaurs are scary, you know, leaning into that might help a little bit. Right. Yeah. Like you're saying. And is Cromwell in that?

Yeah. James Cromwell's in that. Yeah. Like, uh, the, uh, John Hammond's old friend.

Yeah. The hidden, uh, the hidden partner that like. The hidden partner, yeah. And I think just when you have an actor of that caliber, it just kind of lifts everything up. Well, and Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter is also in it as the nanny, Geraldine Chaplin. Because she's in all of J.A. Bayona's movies.

Oh, interesting. That's interesting. Good luck charm. Charlie Chaplin's J.B. Onna's movies. Oh, interesting. That's interesting. Good luck charm. Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter. Yeah. Well, yeah, it made some cool choices, but ultimately, at the end of the day,

not enough mom fucking for me. That is... Truly. We can just get back to that. What the fuck that T-Rex's mom? Was that what episode nine was going to be? Maybe? There was going to be sort of an ending like that? All right, we know I am your father,

but we haven't heard I fucked your father. The Knights of Ren are going to say that to Kylo. Oh, about Princess Leia. Rest in peace, Gary Fisher. All right, let's talk some ride stuff. There's already been some emotional reaction to like the big parts of it but let's throw out and I leave it to you cause I can't

what like I don't know well let's talk like favorite moments if you had to pick a number one cause it seems like there's a lot of candidates but what is the peak of that ride experience for you I mean it they talk about in the Making of special that it kind of builds in a way that, like,

a lot of roller coasters that first drop and then, like, maybe some bunny hills or some inversions. But, like, Velocicoaster does seemingly get more intense as you go on. Like, that launch up to the top hat, you know, the biggest part. This phrase is new to me, by the way. The top hat?

Top hat, yeah. That big kind of like straight up, straight down. It's just straight up and down on a curve. It's almost like what's the Knott's one that's just that. Montezuma's Revenge. Montezuma's Revenge,

which is just that up and down really. Kingda Ka, Six Flags Great Adventure in Jersey, that has a famous one where that's most of the ride is the top at. But this is like halfway through the second launch. That's like one of seven things. Yeah. And then the finale,

the barrel roll, I also saw it called a heartline roll or the Mosasaurus roll, is such a surprising mutt like it is so crazy to go over the water upside down yeah well and i think you know again like i was also scared of roller coasters as a kid and i remember first time going on indiana jones at disneyland i held on like this and like i remember being rattled and stuff like that. And I think the thing about the VelociCoaster that, you know,

maybe you might be able to do Scott is that like, because it's so smooth, you, I like, you aren't like huddled down. You are kind of getting to like enjoy everything. And I feel like it's that it's those parts where you're like doing these like twists and there's that part.

It's like, I forget what point it is where it kind of like, it kind of like dips you down and then kind of, but like, does it very fake out? Yeah. Yeah. It's like a second half.

It kind of like feels like you're going to dip. Like, let's say, I don't remember the direction, but dip left, but then it takes you right back. It's like this almost like fake out thing that happens to. Yeah.

And it is like a thing where they're like, you know, I guess this, yeah, the story, like, you know, at the beginning, it's like one, two, three. And you're like, the Raptors are running with you.

And like, I'm not really thinking about that when I'm on the ride. But it's those little moments like that fake out and stuff where you're like, I can remember the whole I can like remember the order of things on the ride. Maybe a little bit better than other roller coasters. Yeah. Because like I'm like Incredicoaster for like you remember okay, like, what are the best parts of it, and now there's, like, little characters on it. But basically, you're, like, you're remembering the launch, you're remembering when you kind of go up a little high,

and you go on that big drop, and then you remember this going in the loop, and then the bouncy thing. It's honestly what makes it, like, hard to talk about roller coasters on a podcast because it's you end up so as a part where you go up and then the part where that kind of that that twist and that yeah but this this is different these these moments definitely read as like notable you need that kind of go in a in a sequence recall. Right, and it feels, because it's a short ride.

It's very, what is it? It's shorter than 90 seconds? Or is it 90 seconds? It's like a minute and 32, but that's with the intro Velocicoaster. Is it, by the way, is the launch, is the idea that you're going to go through a Velociraptor paddock, but they're going to be taken care of. They're sedated or put in their place and whatever. But then there's rattling and they break out as you launch.

Is that roughly correct? Yeah. Because in the Jurassic world, when they let them all out to go ride, I was gonna say ride motorcycles but that was like a somebody cgi that but like when they're all running with chris pratt like i think it's almost meant to kind of replicate that moment of like like like the you know racehorses or whatever it's like one two three go but yeah i can't i'm like i feel like they let him out on purpose oh maybe but that's like what pratt doesn't want is that like wait you're gonna like have them race a little bit yeah yeah my raptors well because it's almost

like treating it like it's an exercise you know how people do like you know like sea world or whatever it's kind of like oh you know i was like is jurassic world the bush gardens of theme parks you know where it's like in sea world where it's like coasters and animals, you know, together. I guess so. And there's, you know, the statues of the raptors. In the first parts of the ride, you kind of go through, look, when we were riding this, again, I did not, I took my glasses off.

So I didn't catch some of the like riding details as you're riding, but you're going so fast. Yeah. But the sound is great. Like there are Raptor cries that are startling as you're going through it, like 50 miles or 60 miles an hour or whatever. No, that is the thing I forgot about. But like thinking about it again,

that's the part I think that also adds a little bit to the thrills is yeah they'll have like raptor screams kind of call out occasionally just there's raptors on the ride that i never saw i never noticed like actual like little static figures i caught one one of them like startle never i had to watch a video weeks later and go, oh, there's raptors on the ride. There's also raptor statues at the entrance, and I saw that on a lot of Easter egg lists of like, oh, that's sort of a nod

to the now long gone Dueling Dragons attraction, which had big dragon statues at the entrance. I'm wrong. It's two minutes. It is longer than I i'm wrong it's two it's two minutes it is longer than i thought it's two minutes but it's still short short right by the way of course we all know those dragons on dueling dragons uh uh blues rock and pie rock uh rock and pie rock

yeah blues rock is the ice dragon pie rock is is the fire dragon. We all know they were back. They were back for a haunted house. They were back for a haunted maze. My question is, is that a fact you learned in the last several months, or did you know that, love it, memorize it, pray to it at night as a 14-year-old? And then I double-checked it last night because I'm like, what are their names again? And I couldn't quite find i

i had heard at some point but i couldn't quite confirm last night that those are the names of the raptors at the entrance but i think just like a little nod because you can get to a velocity coaster from lost continent i believe they demolished the bridge and then rebuilt the bridge. Mom, Dad, can I call you guys Blizzrock and Pyrock instead? I'm getting a little bored of Mom and Dad. It's like how we all remember. Blue, Charlie,

Delta, and Echo. Charlie's the young one who's light green. Delta's the handsome one. Echo's got glasses. Delta's the handsome one. Yeah, yeah. Echo's got glasses. Yeah, yeah. Echo does machines. Yeah, yeah.

Blue cannot be called beta, because she is an alpha, so you gotta call her blue. Oh, sorry. No, I was just gonna say, yeah, like, well, we actually, let me ask you,

do you have a favorite of these raptors? I like Charlie, because she's like the young one, and she was also like, it is funny when they were like, we're gonna make these rapt these raptors we're gonna put like a blue stripe on blue because you know they're birds whatever but but you know it's like that again attention to realism we're like why didn't you make one of them like red so then at least we have like blue red brown and green because charlie's also the other one to me that stood out the most because

she was like bright green and then she's the one that gets uh exploded by the rocket launcher at the end of the oh where like chris pat's like oh like my old friend and then she like looks at him and then it just explodes fucking vincent d'onofrio son Son of a bitch. And then I think I can't remember which one it was Delta or Echo that gets thrown onto the like, it wasn't Margaritaville it was the other restaurant gets thrown onto the grill. The hibachi grill.

That's cool. I know looking back you're like they wanted us to love these dinosaurs and then in Fallen Kingdom they show you footage of them when they're babies and you're like what happened to that? Oh yeah. And then in fallen kingdom, they show you footage of them when they're babies. And you're like, what happened to that? Oh yeah.

And like onto the hibachi grill. They blew up in the, uh, what was that? Uh, chink burger rim or burger lounge. The one that was like a massive Ponzi scheme. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Like popped up everywhere for a little while. And then eventually they're like, Oh, this isn't a real company. Yeah. It's just money. Clothes. like, oh, this isn't a real company. Yeah, it's just money laundering.

Quickly closed. You throw out these terms, these little roller coaster terminologies. There's top hat and then there's, I had not heard inverted stall. You have an inverted stall on this, which means, because you got four inversions on this ride, all told. And got four inversions on this ride,

all told, and then there is one where, okay, if you're flipping the whole time, if you're spinning the entire time, that's an inversion, not a stall. And what this has is a moment where you flip

and then you stay fully upside down for two to three seconds and then flip again. So I think that's a rare moment to find anything. That's the end thing. Yeah, over the water. That's the water? No, that's a barrel roll. In the middle, there is a...

It does stand out in a ride video where, like, twist and turn, and then it does get still for a second and then flips again. I'm trying to remember what that specific one is. That's after the top hat, is that right? I think so. I think so, after the top.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because that's when you go up and then you're heading towards the visitor center, the old visitor center. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's right when the fake out happens. It's right before the fake out?

It's all built into the land like it is for such an intense ride. It is not like obtrusive no no to where if you're entering it from the jurassic park island you gotta follow like kind of a winding path it's kind of hidden it's hidden stairs and then yeah it is i also was like i had a problem finding it i was wandering around tired that day and i was like wait, wait, where is this? I see it, but I don't, I can't get to it. A fact. I think someone down there told us about when they were building this,

you know, because they talk in the special, like, oh, this construction site, there was no backstage. Like we, we were far from backstage.

It's the middle of the park. So I, when they were transporting materials, sometimes they use the old island skipper door dock which is kind of off to the side of jurassic park because it's just easier to put it on a barge at port of entry and sail it across well i mean yeah when i when i worked at disneyland in high school i worked at pizza port and then our ice machines broke one time this was like 2004

i think yeah it was like a couple years after california adventure opened but i remember that we wanted to get ice from club buzz or whatever it's called and instead of having us go like through just that like courtyard or wherever we went through the underground tunnels because we had this big ice i had to like drag this big ice bucket thing and they just didn't want i guess they didn't want us to like run over kids or you know just to just to not ruin the illusion but or or just even that idea of like we're we're in the middle of this thing and and like maybe just putting on a boat is actually just like so we don't have to go through crowds in order to try and navigate this stuff or whatever. Yeah.

It seems like, according to the special, because building this crazy ride in the middle of the park is very difficult, then COVID hits. But COVID, then you got nobody in the park anymore. So it might have helped them. Oh, yeah. It's a great ride. You can't drive like a truck through Seuss Landing. You can't drive a flatbed through Seuss Landing. You can't drive a flatbed through Seuss Landing.

Well, the trucula trees are about to happen. They're going to tear down the Dr. Seuss Land. Yeah. Oh, the Ford F-150 clipped the side of the three broomsticks. I was saying earlier, the first thing, one of the first things that happens is that they shoot you over these, like this rock formation. And when you're coming down,

correct me if I'm wrong or you didn't think this, it feels like they're teasing throwing you into rocks. No, I kind of felt that. Because yeah, it's not like, it's not like, oh my God, why am I forgetting? The Yeti, Thunder Mountain. Thunder Mountain or whatever. Matterhorn. Matterhorn, yeah, my God, why am I forgetting? The Yeti. Thunder Mountain. Or no. Thunder Mountain. Or whatever.

Matterhorn. Matterhorn, yeah, Matterhorn, where it's like, you know, they're not letting you know that a cave is coming up. You're like, this is just kind of a big pile of rocks that you're sort of heading towards. Oh, yeah. And then I think. Oh, you're surprised when you hit a turn. Yeah, yeah.

I feel like it becomes clearer because I think that's, like, again, I don't really remember where the rafter statues are, but I feel like there's one kind of over by there maybe that like maybe it's almost like oh like you know we gotta turn and get out of the way or something like that I can't remember if there's a raptor statue right there this I feel like

is the first part of the ride where you get some decent air which is where your body first goes oh I'm gonna fly out and I'm just gonna hit these rocks in such an aggressive manner. These rocks and these beautiful plants. But your adrenaline is surged so much, hopefully, fingers crossed, that you're just like,

great, let it happen. Let's go. Yeah. Just like throw me into these rocks. That's what I need. Like, Stephen, you're doing a pose that's kind of just like giving yourself to the Lord. That's the feeling you get.

Yeah. It's just like, okay, I can't restrict myself and tighten and close myself. I have to just, I got to open my chest and just like will myself to be in it. I was a little freaked doing Dr. Doom's Fearfall for the first time that I was there. I mean, it was shorter, obviously,

but this, yeah, there's this weird euphoria that this ride gives me. Yeah, but it's exciting you you want to give lord doom your fear juice well of course i want to give lord doom my fear juice i gave him my fear juice that wretched reed richards is up to his old busy body trick yes and i but i didn't even i didn't even feel that i had fear juice left i didn't know there was any fear left in me andrew and velocicoaster sure i gotta wait to refill my fear juice left. I didn't know there was any fear left in me on Velocicoaster. Sure. I gotta wait to refill my fear juice. Yeah, but I don't even, it just was in there.

I didn't even use it. This guy barely has any fear juice. Squeak, squeeze his nuts. Lower the lap harness. Doom is better at getting the fear juice out of me than Velocicoaster, than Owen and Claire are. Yeah. And look, I don't want to, you know,

toot our own horn, but shout out to the person who worked on this who I know is a listener of this show who I've talked to. So I don't want to blow up their spot too much, but.

Sure. Yes. Thank you for all. Thank you for hearing this one. It was an incredible coaster. Yeah. Do you think about it once a week?

Both of Stephen and Jason. The Velocicoaster. At least once a week. Do you think about it? Do you get wistful? Because I do. Oh, yeah. Once a week I go, oh? The Velocicoaster? At least once a week. Do you think about it? Because I do. Once a week I go, oh, that Velocicoaster is good. Well, I did something very nerdy where because I got a projector and so I just put the projector as big as possible on the wall

and then projected the Velocicoaster video. Oh, great. Like it's kind of sat in the middle just to be like, can I replicate that feeling a little bit? Because this would i mean you know i i had a quest to for a minute and like one of the first things you can do is like a roller coaster vr experience or whatever and it's just it's not quite the same because if you're just you know if you're just standing or something it's not you know you're not sure you're not

really getting it yeah um i yeah it pops up in my youtube recommended like videos all the time is the ride through and other people's ride throughs and well this this i feel like was an early i feel like lots more parks now are putting out like really good quality official videos and this was one of the first ones that struck me where universal put out like a full hd like really good quality ride through which is partially so they can just give the media this video and they don't have to worry about people with gopros like electronics flying off their person you know why not because it doesn't ruin I mean, I guess it might spoil a surprise or two, but it's like an entirely different thing to be on it.

I would imagine. Maybe I'll know someday. I mean, this and Guardians, I managed to avoid like spoilers. So I was really surprised by a lot of elements on both these roller coasters. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Especially Guardians, obviously, because there's more like stuff to look at. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Especially Gardens, obviously,

because there's more stuff to look at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which obviously there's stuff to look at. Those are pretty horrendous ride-through videos. Oh, I know. It's hard. You might watch that and think, this ride isn't that good.

That one you really gotta be on. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, it's hard to replicate in the dark and those sensations and that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. I don't think a video of Space Mountain would be the best thing to watch either let me throw out this this debate if we're kind of heading for the door because we kind of left this at guardians because guardians obviously a big candidate for best ride in orlando uh this one has to be as well um i mean i did a

little poll online to see what people thought but let's let's get the do we do we have knee jerks mike i'm just gonna make you hard i got texted and angry you got 10 seconds oh 10 seconds let the man cook no what are you saying my heart well i was gonna say a friend of the show matt cardona angrily texted me when i threw out the idea that velocicoaster could be better than guardians because he said are we not theme park people that like themes and uh and it was like well that's true but here's what here's what I'll say my heart wants to say Velocicoaster is my favorite I think that's my answer well and it doesn't even it's a viable a lot of people have that

answer it's not crazy it doesn't make. It's a viable. A lot of people have that answer. It's not crazy. It doesn't make sense intellectually. You know how sometimes your heart and your mind say different things? My mind wants to say Guardians. Everything about it, I like the movies better. I'm a big rock and roll fan, as you know, as everyone knows. It's innovative in the way that it turns of Guardians. It's amazing in the way it looks like you're in space, but it's bright. I love it. It's innovative in the way that it turns of Guardians. It's amazing in the way it looks like you're in space, but it's bright. I love it.

It's amazing. But my heart says that I like Velocicoaster better. It just does. It does things to my body that Guardians does not. It's a smooth, crazy experience that it can't, like, it doesn't, again, it doesn't even matter. This could be the book of Henry Ride. It does not matter. It could be themed to a short film.

Don't be Watson. Truly the physical experience you have on it. We need to race to Sickleman's house. Great, fine. See, and there's like a static of the guy in the robe at the end, like right by the barrel roll. It's me, Sickleman. I am the police, so I'm above the law. It doesn't matter.

Oh, that's from the short film. I got confused with Sickleman. Sorry. I'm getting my Trevarros mixed up again. All right. It's home base, the ride. It's home base, the ride. You're on a race to fuck your ex's mom.

Right. Great. Hurry. Somebody else might fuck her. The couple's having an argument in the pre-show about fucking the mother, and they're like, no, don't do it. Yes, do it. You're frigid.

Fuck you. But I think that maybe for the first time in my life, I have to say that the actual physical experience of going on the ride supersedes the theming or anything else. That's how I feel. That's what's in my heart, and have to say my mike has declared it i like it put your neck out yeah like a non-existent brontosaurus yeah and uh it's bad i declare your opinion a slightly bad like i love guardians and it's the second best ride in orlando wow jason thoughts yeah um you know i'm the little thrill boy of the podcast you know i'm the thrill seeker um so i think like yeah i i did this like the last day before we i flew out

and like was so uh you know worried all week like i kept having chances to go on it, not getting on it for whatever reason. Worried about not getting on it. One reason or another. Yeah, worried about not getting on it. This was the one thing down there I was like, I have to do this. So thankfully got on the last day. And I just found it to be so exciting and so satisfying yeah so but by if you're declaring it best ride in orlando you're spitting in the face of peter parker well willing to do that jason sheridan i might say best

coaster uh i don't know i don't know about best ride because then you start getting into the dark ride and like i feel like guardians and even hagrid's you know they have a lot of story beats they have a lot of tricks yeah that are closer to dark ride mechanics than coaster mechanics but i feel like this one has such exciting coaster elements with story and placemaking involved sure yeah it yeah i think it's definitely in the top whether that is just like recent bias of like shiny new thing you know but i think the fact that it's built in it's so compact and i've i'm i'm so fascinated by how they're going to translate that thrilling compact coaster into like the hill like universal like into that land like another sort of difficult landscape it's being built into also the, the rumors of like, oh, there might be drifting elements on this. I think there is for sure, yeah.

It's going to be like Guardians with the ability to turn, which is the drifting thing. And the Velocicoaster, that's the word. Might be real good. And it goes over the- Best of the Furious is going to be our favorite ride. That may be.

With the hill coasters. And it goes over the escalator. It goes around the escalator. Whoa. That's cool. That sounds cool. Steven, I don't know if you've you've i mean this trip was a little while ago you've probably missed some things that are potentially on the list but yeah but do you have a knee jerk if you were to weigh in on well yeah so i haven't been on guardians but the thing that i can maybe compare

it to a little bit is that um again i worked at disneyland in high school and was all you know all about that life that you know and then even after I stopped working there, I got a pass and, you know, my friends in high school, we had a thing where we would like go in the morning and see how long we could go before the lines would be too long because, you know, we could just go the next day or whatever. And it was just like such a like magical part of growing up. Um, but I hadn't been to Disneyland in like 10 years until last year for my birthday. I did basically just did Batuu. Batuu?

Yeah. I didn't do the Millennium Falcon, but I did Rise of the Resistance for the first time. Yeah. And again, not to bring up any debates or anything like that, you know, previous debates on the podcast. But again, like Jason, like you were saying, like I think Velocicoaster is easily my favorite roller coaster of all time. Sure. That one seems easy, yeah. But I think for me, there's like a part in Rise of the Resistance where you forget that you're –

because like to me, it's like you're saying the debate of like theming versus pure thrills. But there's like definitely a part in Rise of the Resistance where I'm like I'm just in Star Wars. And I just totally forget the rest of the world exists. And I'm just fully immersed in a way that was just like you're like like I remember describing it to my sister like the next day and I was like starting to get like teared up. I was like, I was there, you know, like that kind of thing, you know, like all of our favorite characters but like but but you know it was just one of those things where like i think rise the resistance is like my favorite ride of all time because it it even has like the history of like every kind of ride thing we have like drops like like simulator street yeah yeah it kind of like uses all the tricks so for me like rise is like my fate maybe my favorite ride of all time velocicoaster just pure thrills just like something I could like ride over and over again.

I feel like definitely Velocicoaster is number one in that regard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My like thing that haunted me, I couldn't stop thinking about it for a long time, was the big cannons and that. Yeah. I just like –

Yeah. I just needed to like close my eyes and think about it for a couple – and during pandemic when it was not available anymore. Internet, I did a little, I did like, let's do four at Disney World, four at Universal. Rise of the Resistance took it at Disney World.

Spider-Man took it at Universal. Put them together, Rise of the Resistance, by a wide margin. It's almost as if Rise of the Resistance is a wide margin. It's almost as if Rise of the Resistance is a good ride. Good is fine. Yeah, good is a fine describer of it. I know I've got my edgelord opinions over here.

Good is a good way to put it. I agree. To Mike's credit, I will say that now when I ride the Transformers ride, I do expect him to be like, I'm proud of you. I do get emotionally impacted by that bit of score. Like I went and like looked up that score like to go listen to it later.

Like it's like actually really good music. That end of the ride is like perfect. What I wonder is how many people didn't feel anything about it before, but Mike made them feel something. You incepted us. Yeah, it would be interesting to know. I would think if you've heard me talk about it,

now that you break into tears when you see this part of the ride. And then I influence people by being really into that one character actor who's in the Q videos. Oh, the general? He plays the general? Yeah, the general. He's like, Evac, what are you doing? Like, oh, he's in everything. I love that guy. He plays like Landry's dad on Friday Night Lights, the generals. Like, Evac, what are you doing? Like, oh, he's in everything.

I love that guy. He plays like Landry's dad on Friday Night Lights, I think. He probably plays everyone's dad on Friday Night Lights. Yeah, he is. No, you're right. He does play everyone's dad. He plays every football player's dad. That's one of the weird things.

He's Minkah Kelly's dad. He's just that good, you know? Yeah. He can carry that many roles in a TV show, you know? He's good. could you know yeah he can he can carry that many roles in a tv show you know good having not done velocicoaster i think i'm going guardians with slightly slightly behind hagrid's i am a bit i want to represent hagrid's yeah hagrid's awesome that drop hagrid's is number two in the universal in the online yeah um and velocity velocicoaster didn't make it to the four so is that heresy

in a little tournament that it wasn't in the top two is that also just people haven't gotten down to ride it are they scared of it I'd like to know they'd have to pass a test to prove they went on it there were a thousand votes in this poll so you have a thousand answers to get

that's fine tweet us photos like Jason did tweet us a photo of you on the coaster like jason has and prove that you are on it to be allowed to vote in the poll so does that mean i'm not allowed to vote you're not allowed all right so my opinion your opinion doesn't tell you my opinion is you have to ride a vintage and i need to see a photo of it too to prove it even if i mean i guess if I'm on it with you, I will vouch for you. But other than that, I won't buy it. I'm taking a selfie at 70 miles per hour. Yeah.

It's the only proof that you didn't fly out of it and then somehow get back in at the very end. Snap a GoPro that is reversed to your chest with a little bit of a selfie stick on it. Hopefully that won't impale you on some part of it. It's like Requiem for a Dream, you know, with that camera where everyone's like, It might be. I'm worried a little bit, I won't impale you on some part of it. It's like Requiem for a Dream, you know, like that camera where everyone's like, ugh.

Yeah, yeah. It might be. I'm worried a little bit, but you guys gave me hope that this might be something I could build up to. I do think you could do it. It's not going to be, you're not going to be so calm on it. No, no.

But that's not the goal. But I just think that there's a couple elements that will be taken out, which is the roughness of a coaster like this. My question is, do you do it sober or- Well, I know the answer to that. Well, but then there's dizziness because I didn't want to drink before Guardians. Oh, yeah, because you guys were saying that Guardians got rough.

Guardians is not drink. It's just nauseating, potentially. It's high potential for nausea. It handles you in a different, unique way. Yes, it's like jostling your little belly. It's kind of like touching your belly as you ride and moving it around and stuff. In five, ten years, people might be more accustomed to that as spinning coasters catch on more. Like we'll evolve.

We will evolve. We'll evolve. Like the raptors did to get better at spinning. So we'll be okay for the Fast and Furious. Yeah, maybe one glass of wine. I just need a little. One little hit of Kendall Jackson Chardonnay. Let me handle that.

Yeah, that's right. I get a thing in the pit of my stomach when I do the big upside-down part on Incredicoaster. Every time now, I can feel it deep down there going like, and it's not crazy. I'm not going to puke or anything, but I can feel it. It doesn't do anything for me. For me it's all like bigger drops and launch and oddly the the spiral is nothing there's like a g-force on and it's because it's too slow also yeah slow upside down um and i can feel it and i never ever had that feeling well you're there's no longer the like uh late 90s early 2000s calliope music to comfort you.

Yeah, that's really. Well, yeah, that was. Something nauseating about that. You're a father now. You're so concerned about Jack-Jack. Yeah, the pole. Jack-Jack's on the pole. Getting him under control.

With three pole. Yeah, yeah, of course. I really, now I go on a ride. There's an existential stress about it getting the baby yeah that's a dream I have once a week probably that I've like lost to the baby that the baby has grown ten sizes

I haven't had that dream yet that it's like a honey I blew up the kid yeah yeah but the amount of times I've half asleep tried to like go through the covers on the bed in the middle of the night to find where i put the baby it's happened many times at this point where no wait i forgot to put the baby in the crib where oh no like just going through the comforter and like the different and

then like feeling like i've been looking for 10 minutes oh my god and then finally kind of country thing where it's like you're just going through the tunnel and then you pop out in a different place. And then going, no, the baby's in the crib. Well, now you know what it's like to really care for something like Owen Grady and Blue. Right. I do feel more of a kinship with Owen now. Yeah. Or Owen Grady and a clone child.

Yeah. I got to watch that other movie. Well, anyways, fantastic to talk about this for a while and here you're you're passionate passionate about it steven's lasted for a couple years your passion for jurassic park world in general uh steven ray morris you survived podcast the ride uh this is a pleasure so so glad we could have you back uh and let's uh let's exit through the gift shop anything you would like to plug? Thank you so much.

Again, thank you guys so much. I just really love this podcast. And again, it's always an honor to be on. Oh, man. Oh, and thank you. If we get tagged and see you wearing a Chris Gaines shirt or a Launch Queen. I debated wearing the Chris Gaines shirt today. I would have been.

I love the shirt. You picked a perfect shirt. So many of them have lead painter microplastics, and you've got to be careful with those Gaines shirts. But thank you for your support and for being a great guest, too. Thank you. Yeah. It's always, I mean, again,

it's always when you find a podcast that you love, and you're just like, wait, somebody else thinks about Lost in You. And ladies and gentlemen, you know. Yeah. But yeah. No. thinks about lost in you and you know like yeah uh but yeah no uh again this is so much fun um yeah you can follow me at c and ray morris and all the things uh see jurassic right podcast and then i wanted to mention we're talking about um off mic but i'm uh the next project i'm working on is a step-by-step uh tv show podcast you know, the classic TGIF show from the 90s. Oh, you have handled me with this information, Stephen. Handled well.

Oh, my God. It's called Kenan and Lakin Give You Deja Vu, and it's with Christine Lakin, who played Al Lambert, the sassy tomboy, and Stacey Kenanan who played dana foster who was you know just the every you know all of our teen crush growing up and i had crushes on all of those girls on that show like and suzanne summers rest in yes like yes uh it's i always really loved that show because it was like brady bunch but with divorce and it was just like... And they mixed it up. They keep you on your toes.

Their hair doesn't all match. Yeah, exactly. And you're like, I still don't remember which family member, which kid goes with what parent. They mixed it all up. But yeah, I'm working with Christine and Stacey. And the premise of the show that I think is very funny is that Stacey was a too cool for school teenager

so she never watched the show that she was on for seven seasons. And Christine was a kid and her mom was out here and she was just excited to be... In the first episode, they talk a lot about like, oh my gosh, they're closing Magic Mountain so that we get to film this opening kind of thing. So she's that age. You hear, you were saying, right off the bat,

you get a bunch of info about that, about the mountain yes no yeah yeah yeah my god um and so so she watched every episode so she was like the lore keeper with her mom and then uh stacy was just like whatever 90s and like so that got out of the business as a very successful attorney yes exactly so their dynamic i think is just really fun. And again, it's like, you know, for people listening to podcast, the ride it's,

you know, all the nineties, you know, ephemera and goodness and pop culture. And yeah, Keenan and Lakin Instagram is the only thing that's up right now. Cause the show is not coming out until March, but the placeholder with that,

get on that Instagram. Yeah. And I'm going to do it for sure. Love Step by Step. I saw you just tweet about Step by Step, and I can't believe how much backstory there was to this. Because you tweeted something about, oh, it's the best TJF show because it's the horniest.

Yeah, yeah. Because Frank and Carol, Duffy and Summers, they're like, there's none of that. They're not like lock horns. No, no. They are into each other. And I feel like every horns they're like they are into each other and there's i feel like every episode has some like uh why don't we play that game where you're the fireman yeah he's home

from a long sweaty day and you're literally the first episode it's like at the end the little button where they're in bed and it's like the to-do list of groceries and stuff and she's like what do you like to do and he like wrote it down she was like the kids could see this and he's like well let's check it off the list and it's like clearly he was writing the word sex you know and it's just like you know this was the sitcom that you know it was in the tgif block it was 9 30 it was the late night last one yeah yeah it could be a little body yeah we can push it we can push it um i i'm so excited yeah you were you dropped this info before we started recording i had to collect myself to do the episode

so can't wait for that I'll listen to all of that and thank you so much for being here as for us you can find us on the socials at podcast the ride merch is available in our tpublic store for three bonus episodes every month check out podcast the ride the second gate or get one more bonus episode on our VIP

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qualified to just like give Mike your info. So you could just show your voting credentials. Yeah. And I'll, I'll write a whole form sort of to, to prove that your opinion matters to me. It'll be a questionnaire, and I will be

compiling this, and I think I will post it soon to know if you are allowed to vote in our future polls about best rides. Alright, cool. Well, fun recording. I gotta go fuck all of your moms. No! Forever Dog! This has been a Forever Dog production.

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