Podcast: The Ride - Walt Disney World vs Disneyland with Mike Mitchell

Episode Date: November 3, 2017

Walt Disney World. Disneyland. Which is superior? Today we settle the age old debate. And we forced Mike Mitchell (Netflix's Love, Doughboys Podcast) to help us. Spoiler alert: he was no help. Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/ FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feral Audio Mike Mitchell. Strap in for the new episode to Podcast the Ride, a theme park podcast where some nice older men talk to each other about it. Is that the good? That was a bad one, right? Did you like that phrase? It was a little cumbersome. It was a little cumbersome. We're working on that catchphrase. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. Hi. And Scott Gairdner. We're working on that catchphrase. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. Hi.

And Scott Gairdner. Hi. I'm here again as well. Yeah, and today, this is our first guest episode. We're being joined by, from Netflix's Love and Feral Audio's Doughboys, Mike Mitchell. Hello, everybody. Thank you for having me. I'm the first guest.

That's great. You are the first guest. You're the Will Ferrell or the Tom Hanks of... Wow. We're starting off within this scale. In the podcast world. You are a regular Seth Rogen or Billy Crystal. You're what's called a get, Mitch. Oh, my God.

You're a get. Yeah, yeah. So thank you so much. What the hell has happened to the world? Lots of fracturing. I also... We are recording this here at Feral Audio, where you recorded the first several years of Doughboys, which makes me feel like we are playing with Michael Jordan

in wherever Michael Jordan played. You're going to be back in the booth. The United Center. That's what you were looking for. The United, it's like we're back in the famous United Center with the memorable name. It's nice to be back here. I forgot what it was like in here. It's great.

There's free drinks. Yeah. That's it. Thing number one. I found where the snacks are. Jason found half a muffin upstairs. Somebody was like, we got muffins upstairs. And he wandered upstairs, which we're not allowed to do.

I didn't know there was a second floor. They told me, go ahead. I've never been upstairs. Wow, you're very comfortable here already. Yeah, I am. When you're in pursuit of free snacks. For sure. You'll get comfortable.

He's got the radar for it. So thank you. Yeah, thank you for joining us. Thank you. I'm very excited to be here. Hey, I love parks. Every park there is. Any kind, Brian. I'm very excited to be here. I love, hey, I love parks. Every park there is. Any kind of park.

Any national park. Central park. Central park. Park and go, Carlson. Like at the airport. That's every type. That's every type of park. It's cheaper than that airport parking that's right next to the airport.

Sure. That is very, that's true. Yeah, fuck that parking spot. And I love parks with, hey, even with Confederate statues. Oh my. Oh no.

Oh no. This is not the week. Keep them up. Important part of our history from like 30 years ago. I like when they pull the one statue down and like it crumbled.

Do you see how it like crumbled? Yeah. Yeah. That's so insane. There's news stories about that one statue down and like it crumbled. Do you see how it crumbled? Yeah. Yeah. That's so insane. There's news stories about that. A lot of them were put up in the 20s and 30s and were very cheaply made.

Like made in mass quantities to put up. Yeah, good. Take them all down. Yeah. We've sort of not, we've alluded to it here and there

and I'm sure we'll do the full episode about it at some point, but we are coming up on like a new monument being erected at Disney World the Donald Trump robot in the Hall of Presidents. It's impossible to avoid

thinking about, talking about, I mean it's not what's foremost in most people's minds these days I guess but I truly am wondering is that show ready to go? Could they turn it on at any minute or are they avoiding it because everything is getting so crazy? They gotta be avoiding it.

I think so. I think they're trying to punt. Yeah. They keep punting. That could also be another, I know we've talked about mysterious fires

for insurance money in the past. That could be another victim. Oh no, the ride, guys, the ride burned down. This is gonna take

another year to fix. Faulty Martin Van Buren started sparking up. Now it's just about the first couple presidents. I like that they don't want to put it. It seems like they don't want to put it up, right? Yeah, they don't. I mean, because it'll be fights.

There'll be people fighting. Because some people will boo. Some people will cheer. And then those people will fight. I think that would be a legitimate concern. Why don't they just put them up and not have them talk or something? That's what they're saying. They might change the script so only Lincoln or Kennedy talks.

Which is how it was until Clinton. Clinton started doing the speeches, and then Clinton, Bush, Obama have all given speeches. The rumor is Trump's White House, if you can imagine, has been very difficult about scheduling a time for him to come do the robot speech. But then they came out and said that wasn't true, and Vice had to retract something. Oh, my God. Even within this innocent theme park world, everything this administration touches is just toxic. So much drama. But not every president speaks, right?

No. Okay, then he doesn't have to talk. He should just peer over something and give a little wave and then go back down. Or be suddenly in the chair next to you. Look out. It would be like Alien Encounter

with Donald Trump where he's all around you. Heavy breathing and farting and just stalking around. Smells vaguely like McDonald's. I would like that. If Trump's robot had McDonald's I think that's funny.

Worth putting him up for. Offers it to you opens with bag opening technology this robot is the most advanced It's not unprecedented there used to be those McDonald's french fry carts in the parks. Sure. They just sold McDonald's french fries. Oh really? Yeah.

In Disney World. But only McDonald's just the french fries. Just the fries. It was just like a little snack cart's french fries. Oh, really? Yeah, in Disney World. But only McDonald's, just the french fries? Just the fries. It was just like a little snack cart that sold fries and soda. Yeah. That's so cool because those are the best fries. That's the coolest thing that they do. They don't do that anymore.

No, they don't. It's over. It was like a licensing thing. Oh, okay. It was like a sponsorship thing. They had to deal with them for a while. Well, and they were testing the waters of do people want McDonald's in the theme parks, and people did not. All of the dorky fans, such as ourselves, at probably ages 14 to 16 at the time, were

all like, this ruins the original vision. But people love the Starbucks in the parks. The Starbucks in the parks are always packed. Yeah. Yeah. There's Starbucks in Disneyland parks. Like, the Starbucks in the parks are always packed. Yeah. Yeah. There's Starbucks in Disneyland or Disney World? Both. Every park.

Every Disney park. Mm-hmm. I don't like that. They've themed it better, though. Like, there was a place called the Market House on Main Street, and now there's a Starbucks in the Market House. So, it's a little more hidden. The logos are inside, but like...

It hasn't been egregious, I will say. But yes, you can go to a regular... And it just has the basic sandwiches that you would have at any Starbucks. And you can use your app there. It's sort of weird. It does pull you out of Disneyland a little bit. Yeah. I don't like it for that reason.

But I have a question for you. And I'm not... This is not like some Doughboy's cross-potting or something. But for real... This is not like some Doughboy's cross-potting or something. For real, if I'm stepping on anything, yell at me. Sure. I just wanted to say that I like Pizza Port. Oh, really? There's been no discussion of Pizza Port yet on the show.

In Tomorrowland? You're talking about the Tomorrowland Pizza Port. Tomorrowland Pizza Port. In Disneyland restaurant. I actually like that. I like how the pizza is like theme park pizza, and it's good to me. I like Pizza Port. I have a question.

When was the last time you went there? The last time I went there was about three, four weeks ago. Oh, pretty recently. You went to Pizza Port? I went to Pizza Port. Oh, really? See, I thought that the... I used to like it, and I feel like it took a dive into mass-produced Chuck E. Cheese-type pizza. I was disappointed.

To be fair, I have gone to Chuck E. Cheese recently, and Pizza Port is a billion times better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's not besmirch the fine folks who make pizzas at Pizza Port. Huh, that's interesting. That's controversial, though, because I feel like Pizza Port is everyone's least favorite Disneyland place. I know. I feel like it's gotten that wrap. But you know what?

I haven't eaten at... I was wondering what your guys' favorite food is, because every time I go there, for me, the biggest thing for me is just getting a Dole Whip, and I'll always get a Dole Whip. And then besides that, I don't care. I'll get a churro. But I don't have any specific places I have to go.

I've never eaten in, what's the, is it the Blue Bayou or something? Yeah. I've never eaten there. We did. Mike and I went on a double date. Was it at Blue Bayou? With our girlfriend wives. Not with each other.

Oh, yeah. It wasn't you two without. We do have those. Yeah. Though we recently, we several times in the last few weeks have been to Disneyland, just you and I. For a few hours. For, yeah.

Look, if it was all day, then it'd be weird, but just several hours since. It's perfectly fine for two men to go to Disneyland on a Wednesday and eat Beauty and the Beast gray stuff together. It's a beautiful thing. On a Wednesday morning. Do you know about the gray stuff, Mitch? No, what is Beauty and the Beast gray stuff together. It's a beautiful thing. On a Wednesday morning. Do you know about the gray stuff, Mitch? No, what is Beauty and the Beast gray stuff? You know, like from the song,

have the gray stuff, it's delicious. Oh, yeah. Don't believe me, ask the dishes. There's a Beauty and the Beast restaurant now and they have a dessert called gray stuff. Is it good? It is good, yeah. It's delicious?

Jason had it, yeah. It's good, yeah. It's very good. It's like a mousse. Have I split the gray stuff with you as well? Yes, we've split the gray stuff, Mike and I. Jason and I have also been. Tried a little sampling.

We split the gray stuff and the rose lemon custard. Mitch now wants to leave this dork den as quickly as possible. I'll just say, this is like when a girl finds out that a group of girlfriends are talking and they find out that they've all gone on a date with a guy. It's Carlson eating the gray stuff with everybody. Mike and I went down, the two of us, why did we go down that one? Was it after Guardians opened? Does there have to be a why?

Yeah, we were down there to go on the first Guardians. The first, okay. One of the first weeks of the Guardians was, and then we split a bunch of food together. Just lay in your same game, Dan. How many side Disney pieces do you have? I give a lot of the men the same run around.

There's guys all over town who have been on my four hour Disney date. And yet when it's time to go to Disney World, who do you take? Your girlfriend. Yeah. Very offensive. Unbelievable. You gotta do, when it's long, she doesn't even know

about any of the men, so I have to, she's gotta go on one of the long-term trips because I gotta throw her off the scent. Your web of deception knows no bounds.

What else Disney food-wise? There is a lot of good stuff. Yeah, do we just want to get into it, or did we want to talk about that exciting discovery? Oh, yeah. Right before we came in here. You need to talk about that at some point, because I want to know what this big discovery is.

Yeah, sure. We don't always have hot news off the presses, but we just discovered before we came over here, there's a shout-out to a fellow, and going back much deeper than us, Disney podcaster, Len Testa. This is a podcast that we listen to that is a very, like, if you're a super, yeah, you know, Mitch. Oh, Testa. Just cracking a brew and listening to it. Hot off the presses, Testa. Our future dear friend or our future mortal animate lens

test stay out of my territory he does a podcast called the unofficial guide to Disney dish podcast where they like break down

like the history of rides he does it with this guy named Jim Hill and they get like way into it so you learn about

like the whole like Splash Mountain the history of how it was developed who made it honestly it sounds like a better guest than me. I feel like you guys need to get someone in here who knows what they're talking about. I don't know anything.

Well, I think Len was in Florida. But could Len be as funny as us? Could he give you the laughs that we've delivered? Most likely, yes. So if you listen to that podcast, it's a calling card for your weird theme park nerddom or whatever. And Scott just discovered on Twitter that one of Len's followers is Anthony Scaramucci. In the list of followers you may know, it's like the two of us and scaramucci strangest little fact to see he follows a lot of people on twitter but we also saw a couple

days ago that he was tweeting from daigon alley at universal studios in florida he was avoiding theme parks so there's a chance we're not sure is what we're saying. Scaramucci might be one of us. Now, I don't know if he's going to, I don't know if he is going, was he there alone or was he there with his kids? Is he allowed to see his kids right now? Oh, that's right. He's got that crazy divorce.

He's got a divorce. But the kid is new. He has a baby. He probably didn't take the new baby. Unless this is the first time he's seen the new baby. For the listeners who might not know Who Scaramucci is He was for what three days Ten days exactly He was the head of communications

In Donald Trump's White House And he famously gave A really insane interview Where he was talking about Steve Bannon Wanting to suck his own dick I love the fact of him being like, I want to fucking ride the fucking Splash Mountain. You got to go to the fucking Splash Mountain, baby.

It's walking in the rules. Yeah, that's very funny to me. Does he live in, is he a Florida man, or is he just visiting? We don't know. We just found this. I got a fucking vacation on. Who fucking cares?

You don't need to know where I fucking live. I'm a Disney vacation member. Fuck you. It's like a timeshare, but you go to Disney World every year. It's terrific. I feel like poor SNL missing out on a poor, like Scarmucci. Oh, Scarmucci. SNL even got to, on the weekend update summer session, they slid a Scarmucci in.

But I was like, hey, this big over-the-top Italian guy, this is going to be great for them. And then he's gone. It's like the one voice any sketch comedian can do. A hundred percent. And he literally just does sound like a sketch character. You don't have to change a thing. Anybody in the cast could have done it, but it was dead center of the summer and it can't be done now.

And it was done by a former cast member. They still brought back... Nobody here can do an Italian voice. Nobody here can say friggin' with a lot of gusto. It's got to be... We need a special ops. Dan Aykroyd. Well, now, I mean,

they're going to have to bring back Bill Hader as Scaramucci to address this following Len Testa situation. They're going to have to write a weekend update. I hope so. I really hope so. Who in the cast would play Len? Oh, it's got to be Moffat. You know Moffat's got to kill her Len up the sleeve.

So what we probably should do is start a campaign to get Scaramucci on the podcast. Right? Yeah. I think that would be great. So right now we should declare Mr. Scaramucci here. I'm going to make a plea to him. If you are a... Come on, free Scaramucci.

Please come on Podcast the Ride, whether you're a big theme park fan or not. We would just like to hear your review of Diagon Alley even if you are not a big fan. If we could say if this if the guests were like three

comedians we know in a row and then Diagon Alley with Anthony Scaramucci and we never discussed anything that's going on if we were utter

cowards and didn't ask him about anything that's happening in the world. We'll make a pledge. We'll pledge to him we will not talk that's happening in the world. We'll make a pledge. We'll pledge to him we will not talk about any of the other stuff. I can make that pledge, yeah. It'd be much more awkward to get into it.

Although you'd be tempted to say, well, if Voldemort shares some common traits with a certain president who is... Hey, I can't talk about that, guys. I can't talk about that. Okay, sure. Sorry, sir. Don't yell at me again, please. We just become sniveling dorks in the front of the audience. We all just gnarle up and we all lose a foot of height and- You're so cool.

We all lose a foot of height and- You're so cool, Mooch. Teach us the way. Teach me how to say fuck with confidence, mooch. I feel like you bring up, like, I hate when people are like, Trump is like Voldemort. And I'm like, don't compare him to a fictional. Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. It's real bad.

And it's never deep cuts. It's always Voldemort and Gollum. There's only a few characters. But he is just, all anybody's getting at is he's a villain he is like any villain and he's and he's like he's more like gaston or something if you had to give him like a villain he hates book smarts he wants to be able to stop reading women to stop reading and pay attention to him. Yeah. Wow. That's very true. He doesn't have the brawn. Although, if you did the same Gaston song, but about eating five dozen egg McMuffins a morning.

He thinks he is. He thinks he is. Yeah, it's like LeFou and Gaston combined or something like that. But he changes his LeFou every week. It's a new LeFou constantly. Unless it's Stephen Miller. That's why he just

keeps hanging on he's the lefou he is the yeah yeah he's the guy he can kick into like a pile of chickens or something but he'll always dust himself off and be right back with him do you know that lefou was my first big acting role for real whoa yeah really lefou in beauty and the beast and uh god how old was i this is is in theater camp when I was after fifth grade or something. Wow. LeFou, my big role. Was it like a Disney adaptation of it? Kind of.

I mean, I sang like, no one fights like Gaston. I sang that song. You did that song? That's a huge song to get. Yeah. So I guess, yeah, I guess it was Disney. How was your singing then, and how is your singing now? I don't think I know much about your musical abilities.

I think back then it was high-pitched, and now it's more high-pitched. Your testicles have gone up further. My testicles have ascended, I guess. Ticicles ascending. Did you see the live action one, and did you have notes for Josh Gad? I didn't see the live action one. I will see it. I felt like that was such a Netflix, as a 34-year-old single man, going to see Beauty and the Beast is just a little tricky.

You went and saw it at the El Capitan on Hollywood Boulevard the Disney owned theater with a little pre-show and pushed your way through the crowd to make sure you got

that front row seat. Got there first and then there's just like an island there's empty seats all around you like families avoiding. That is what I'm that's what i'm

afraid i guess you could take like a date there or something but i i i i i don't know i just i with a date to take would you would beauty and the beast be your choice unless the date was uh interested in this specifically you know here's here's here's how I feel about the... One, I'm not a fan of Frozen. I did not like Frozen as a film. And then I felt like these Disney remakes... I did think the Jungle Book was impressive, but there's something that's a little cynical about these Disney remakes that I don't love,

like the live-action version. Do you know what I mean? I agree with that. It's just kind of like... I don't know. You're just remaking a movie. You're making a movie again. Here, eat the same slop that we know you like, you fucking invalids.

That's why even though I didn't like Frozen, I was like, oh, at least it's like a new thing or whatever. Sure, sure. Although they'll run that into the ground. Oh, for sure. There'll be a live action Frozen, I'm sure. The musical's coming soon on Broadway. Coming to ground. Oh, for sure. There'll be a live action Frozen, I'm sure. The musical's coming soon on Broadway. Coming to Broadway. Oh, my God.

And Frozen 2 in a few years. Yeah, it's a real mechanism. They can just start doing it. There won't be any lag. There will just be five different types of Frozen. Although, to be fair, when we were children, there were so many Ninja Turtle products at the same time. There's animated, and you can go see the the movies and you can go see them on the tour

and the action. They're all sort of like different types of turtles. Very sloppy brand, I've noted before in the Ninja Turtles. The people who did Frozen, they did Zootopia, right? They did Tangled, right?

They did Tangled. Okay, Tangled. Did they not do Zootopia? They may have. I don't know. I think the music people were Broadway people, right? Like, did they write the Book of Mormon music? Once again, legitimate Disney fans who might be listening to this, don't get mad with us. So we don't know everything.

We're this type of Disney fan, I think, who knows... We know the parks really well and the rest not so much. Although, same with Len Testa. us yeah so we don't know everything we're this type of disney fan i think who knows the we know the parks really well and the rest not so much although same with len testa you remember he said that once yes he was he offended a lot of people by saying he doesn't like the disney movies at all he likes the parks exclusively well i feel like that group that may which i should never say i don't like anyone who's making movies or tv, I guess, because of where we live and it's stupid. But I don't know if I specifically like the Frozen, because I didn't love Zootopia much either.

Okay. But I thought it was okay. I just didn't love it. I like Pixar stuff more, I guess. Sure. I like Inside Out better than I like Frozen or Zootopia or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I think the Disney not Pixar CGI movies

have been sort of a sloppier affair, although lately they've been, at least there's been giant hits that have really resonated with people. But yeah, but overall, like your bolts and your... Well, bolt is like, I feel like bolt is them getting out of the dirt.

They're like getting, like they're finally getting like movies that people want to see again. Well, when they bought Pixar, Lasseter became the head of Disney animation, too. And so they put a lot of practices in place that they had in Pixar. They have had hits. Big Hero 6 was a hit. Yeah, Moana was a big hit.

We should talk about where you land with Disney. You were LeFou. Any other particular strong Disney connections or theme park connections or what you like? Yeah, all right. The first time I went to Disney, I was Disney World, which I argue is the greater Disney, Carlson. And we're going to talk about the topic of the show today, so we'll get there. I think we forgot to say.

We said it at the top. I went to, the first time I went, I was like a child, like a toddler. Two or three. Yeah, two or three, somewhere around there. So my parents took me and my sister, my older sister. And so I don't remember that experience and then the second time we went um i think i was in like second grade and uh we took a we took like a

camper like we took like a like an rv or an rv and with another fan like my godparents whoa and so we like we went so we drove down to Disney. Did you stay at one of the RV, the campsite kind of place? We stayed at the Grand Floridian at that point. Oh, okay. Took the camper to the nice hotel. Oh, you know what? Was it not the Grand...

Oh, no. I think it was the Grand Floridian. I'm not going to remember all the places that we stayed. That's the big ornate hotel right by the Magic Kingdom, like, right by the entrance. It was brand new when we went. Oh, wow. So, would that line up? Would that mean I would be in, like, second-ish grade, maybe, somewhere?

Something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's where the Kokomo music video was filmed. That's the most relevant fact to me. The Grand Floridian. And Hulk Hogan's Thunder in Paradise. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah.

And then we went one more time when i was in fifth grade so quite a few i mean like one i didn't remember but two that i clearly remembered uh and and so this this is the timeline of this will work out too but it was the day like the day we were leaving i remember they were testing splash mountain whoa and we never got to ride it like we left and before before it opened so that and so that was the first time i like so that was my experience with disney is in my childhood and then i didn't go and again until my senior year of college when all when my family and my godparents family we all went like like with adults chill we all there were no kids we just all went as though when we went during uh christmas time oh that's and i and i rode splash mountain for

the first time after like whatever however many years over a decade over a decade was it everything you dreamed of it is great i mean i love i did i did love it and i was i was i was i would have been amazing as as a child to do, but it still was an amazing experience, and it felt like I was closing the book on it or something like that. But also in that visit, when we went to Magic, I think we were in Magic Kingdom, my dad and I, because Splash Mountain is in Magic Kingdom, right? Yeah.

It was during Christmas, and they had cut people off. They wouldn't let any more people into the park. And I remember walking down Main Street, and we came to a halt and like it was like like it was like we couldn't move on main street and it like freaked me out like it was it was the most people i'd ever oh god been around in a theme park ever in my life it was it was like insanely packed they will like close theme parks entirely i remember going with my family and passing by a sign that said Magic Kingdom closed. Being like, dear God, that's insane. It gets to that point. It was so packed.

And I remember I couldn't move on Main Street. And I was like, this fucking sucks. And then we went and waited in line for two hours or something to get on Splash Mountain. That happened to me at Disneyland like two years ago. Like the week after Thanksgiving, family was out visiting, and like a couple of us were walking down Main Street to exit, and it just stopped. Like the crowd control was all messed up,

and it's like there's people not moving in front of us, there's people behind, and people were starting to get mad. And it's like, all right, we're just going to duck in the candy store because it feels like a fight might break out. There are days, this is the dark side of theme parks, for sure. There are days where you'd rather be anywhere else. And when I worked at, when I was a tour guide at Universal Studios, I remember, like, dead heat of summer. People, like, the line for the stupid tram tour is three hours long, and people are passing out.

There's medics and heat strokes happening. They can be such crazy, miserable places if the conditions aren't right. It was terrifying, but I still loved it. We were definitely a Disney family. I feel like once I got to middle school and stuff, my parents were like, that's over with. And they just kind of didn't care about it. But I always loved it. When we went back and went to college, I was so happy to be back there. And my parents, my mom has Disney points.

And so when I was out here, she's like, I got to waste Disney points so I have Disney points to burn. And so I remember I took a trip down to the Grand Californian. Grand California or California? California. California. And I rented a room and Mike Hanford and a bunch of people stayed in there. Oh, wow. That's fun.

And the Grand Californian is awesome. It's an amazing hotel. It is such an amazing looking hotel. And so I visited, I've been to Disneyland like, I've been out here for 12 years almost now and I've been to Disneyland probably like six times, five or six times. Sure, good. A decent amount. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. For someone who isn't like you guys. Out of their minds. Not like you. I saw the number of how many times I've been. Yeah. Because your annual pass keeps track of it. Yeah.

And it is, I don't know what it is right now because I haven't checked. It's over 100. Oh, my God. In 10 years. That's crazy. Because I'll be there on average like once a month and if it gets to be more than that then but we do these a couple hour little stints where you go and you know like get a couple get a couple drinks and mess around for a bit and don't feel like you

gotta fit everything in and yeah yeah yeah those are those are super fun i i i feel like for i feel like like when i was i so i just recently was... I had friends from Quincy, my hometown, come and visit. Oh, that's right. And I took them to Disneyland. So maybe it's like eight times, but it's not more than that. And I can only imagine, Carlson, how good you are at it, but they were like, wow, you're like the Disney king, because I just knew where to go, just because i'd been there enough times that i knew what to do yeah and uh i also that day signed up for uh the pat fat are you talking about max pass the max

pass yeah yeah that carlson you i think you were the one who said it on this text thread that i'm in that you should get the MaxPass. And it was fucking awesome. It was great. It was so worth it, because it was like $10 per person or something. And you get to book all your FastPasses on the go on your phone. You book all your FastPasses on the pass. And so we would just basically be going to a ride and then getting off and going to another.

I don't think we waited in a line for like a busy summer day it reminded me when i was a kid when i went in like second grade there was a rainy day and it was like the most empty disney had ever been but like thunder mountain was still open and we just wrote it multiple like we wrote it multiple times like they didn't care it was and that was like the best day in disney ever it's like a child or whatever right and then this day was like a close second wow i mean maybe even better because i wasn't a dumb child it was like it was an adult and all your buds are there the whole game um yeah the whole the all the quincy guys were there

and we were and we were like i think the only line we waited in was uh the buzz light year and i was like well first we go and get a fast pass for this thing and then let's ride buzz light year that's how i always started off i get like a fast pass for space mountain or star tours and i go ones and then yeah yeah you would that that is i think the theme park pro way to do it you really do forget that when you go with people who don't go all the fucking time that like people don't know what the lands are they don't know what anything is i think yeah just knowing your surroundings surroundings is impressive to people. Yeah, because we're so insane.

I think we take it for granted that people know everything to do. Because most people go once or twice a year, and they just go on. A lot of people don't even use FastPass. They don't even know what it is. They think they have to pay for it. Yeah. It's a whole thing. Oh, yeah, they don't get it at all.

Those are normal people, though. They're right. right yeah they're right to not know all this stuff i was gonna say i think that i like i am not uh like i love disney but i and also there's the sides of disney of course i don't like but but i but i love disney and i've been there feel like, more than the average person will go in their life, which is like 12 times maybe. Sure. So you guys have been like 100 times more than I've been. And what's the Disney World counts for everybody? I mean, I'm from the West Coast and I've still been like six times, I believe. I'm at five or six.

I would need a piece of paper. Yeah, you've been more. Because we were in the vacation club for a while so there was a stretch there when I was in like middle school where we went every year for like four or five years in a row. I was so jealous of kids like you when I was a kid.

Yeah. Because we went away like three or four years. I once spent two weeks straight in Walt Disney World. You motherfucker. Yeah. In an apartment. In like a one bedroom apartment. What was going on?

Just your family? That was what we. That's amazing. It was like the vacation club points. Is that what your mom had? Is she in the vacation club? Is that what the points are? She always just calls them Disney points.

So that could be what it is. But she uses so many of those points on like, you don't have to go to Disney. Like, you can go to, like, Jamaica or Ireland or something. Yeah, it's probably what it is. And so you buy so many points a year, and then, like, that amount of points gets you, like, a week at Disney in a one bedroom, like hotel suite or like depending on your level, two weeks and what's called like a studio suite, which is like a bigger hotel room that also has a partial kitchen. That's at least how it was in the late nineties when we did it.

And so you could bank points. Like if you didn't go one year, you could just save those points and apply them to get like a one bedroom suite or a two bedroom suite. Or you just go and you stay at the studio and you stay for two weeks, which I can only imagine like at a certain point. I know my parents enjoyed it. Like they were super into it too. But there was a certain point in that two weeks where it's like is this our life now like can we have to go back to reality can we just live here sure i i was i was saying to uh i think to

you carlson recently or maybe maybe it was i've said it to a bunch of people but i was like uh i always like uh i feel like a big regret in my life is like oh i would have liked out of college or in college to go work at disney and fallen in love with a with a with a disney uh cast member or whatever i mean like someone who just does the rides like i'm like oh that seems like it would have been the like a magical life a simple yeah that it's funny you bring that up because we we mitch and i went to the same college. That's true. We went to Ithaca. Ithaca College.

Two years apart. And when I was there, I went to an info session about the Disney college program. Did you ever go to that? I didn't go. I would have gone. Yeah. It would have been a whole other life. They recruited.

You literally missed the meeting. I missed it. It came to you. It came to you. I won a trivia question. I don't know what I got. I got a prize at that. And I talked to them. And I was like, this would be really cool to do.

But they have very specific, their semesters are different than a lot of college semesters. So it's like they wanted you to take a whole college semester and then like a month on either end. So it was either like. You're on Disney time now. You're on Disney time. So it's like a month You're on Disney time now. You're on Disney time. So it's like a month of your summer break and a full school semester. And so it probably would have put me back graduating.

But Jason, I think we can both agree that being in Disney would have been more fun than Ithaca. I think that's true. I mean, I had a nice time at Ithaca. Ithaca is great, but I like, it's a cold ice block. Oh, yeah. And then Disney is, we'd be marrying these Disney cast members, like we're saying. Do you have, like, an ideal, what you're...

Would it be like a woman from the Norway World Showcase pavilion? It would be a woman from the Norway, yes. And I would be in Beast costume. With very little makeup. Just as a cost saver, they should have hired you. Jason would have married someone at the pretzel stand. Sure. Would have been a family of pretzel people.

Or just a mini. And then you asked, like, don't ever take your head off. That's the only way this will work. I need to believe you're the real mini. Truly magical. Well, we should get into it. The grand debate, Disney World versus Ithaca. You raised a few points already.

Ithaca is so far at a... Ithaca still has their own currency. They got rid of Disney dollars, but Ithaca hours, I believe, are still in circulation. So in the currency category... There were bonus bucks, I remember. You could buy like a

shitty, not subway, but a subway type place sandwich. There was a terrible sandwich shop. That's right. So the campus had its own bonus bucks system. They had its own bonus box system. They had its own currency. And then downtown Ithaca, like the local downtown shops had, you could get like $1 is one Ithaca hour.

And like their own little currency? I guess the idea was you keep money directly in the community. We're going to provide a graph later of all of the various points, bucks, hours, credits, all the means of currency that we've discussed. When it snows so hard and the wind is so rough, it feels like it's snowing horizontally at you. You kind of need to come up with distractions, right, Mitch? Yes. And these hippies came up with Ithaca hours or whatever the hell they are. And off-brand sandwiches.

Yum. Disney World versus Disneyland. This is something we know that you're passionate about and you have strong views about. Or maybe that's the entire view is Disney World is better. Disney World is better than Disneyland.

And I think both of you don't like that statement, but I don't know how Jason feels. We're cracking our fists now. Here we go. Would it surprise you we have strong opinions on everything? Get your notes out, folks. Russell, Russell.

Here's how I feel, and a bunch of Quincy friends felt the same way. Disneyland is great. Don't get me wrong. It's great. It's the original. I know that this is going to come up in your stupid arguments for sure i'll cross it out it's the it's the original like in magic kingdom like the castle is smaller and shittier look it's made back in the day it's smaller and not as good i get that um still a slanted view of our view um here's here's the biggest part for me

is that when you're when you are in disney world you are transported to a different place that feels like nothing else in the world like it it doesn't feel like you're in a theme park it feels like you are in a a weird different world a world that's why it's disney world and it is more of a the west world the like yeah full immersive experience it feels like it feels like a west world for sure disneyland you can't ever you can you can always feel that you're in Anaheim. It feels like you can look over a wall and see Anaheim. And it doesn't feel like... If you go to the top of the Tower of Terror now, the Guardians, whatever the fuck it is.

Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout. If you go to the top of Mission Breakout It rolls off the tongue It rolls off the tongue very natural Another thing that gets me mad about Disney but We don't have to get into that stuff today We will we should Like I'm like oh

Look at Anaheim You can see Anaheim All the beauty of a place where literally There are KKK rallies Not to throw all of Anaheim. All the beauty of a place where literally there are KKK rallies. Not to throw all of Anaheim under the bus, but that is true. Luckily, there's no

white supremacists in Florida. No ride could give you a ride. In Disneyland, it doesn't even matter what you are. We're all friends in Disney. Mitch, would it surprise you

to learn there's a term for this? This is what's called the Disney bubble. Oh, yes. You go into it. You don't want to leave the Disney bubble. I love the Disney bubble.

And the Disney bubble is, I don't know if there is a bubble with Disney. I mean, there is a little bit with Disneyland, but not as much. It definitely pops when you're at the top of the Guardians of the Galaxy ride. For sure, Burson. You can see the Carl's on Harbor. The Mimi's restaurant. Captain Kidd's $11 buffet. Captain Kidd's, the restaurant that ripped off the Red Robin logo.

They just ganked the exact design. We're calling you out, Captain Kidd. On guard. Medieval Times is right there. There's something about it that just feels like a little like, it feels like, not cheaper. That's not the right word for it, but I guess that's all I can think of. Chintzier. Yeah, a little chintzier.

And there's like, I feel like a California Adventure just feels like a Six Flags or something. It just feels like a cheaper, it just feels like it feels that way. And go ahead, Scott. I'm laughing because Scott does look like he has some anger in his eyes when you say that. I sure made a face. I don't think that face was, I think you all read it. It's harsher than it was. I think you were trying to hide it

and you were doing a bad job of it. Oh, yeah, maybe my non-poker face was showing it. I saw literally all these times that you've been drinking in the Carthay Circle in California Adventure flash before your eyes and you went, God damn it, there's no way. You're taking the place where I hold court and you're throwing it down the drain.

Hey, you're right. People are supposed to get mad. Maybe they should get mad. No, California Adventure, I think, when it opened was a much cheaper park with a lot of problems and that's they really did scrimp on it. I think in the intervening years, like since Cars Land and this great Carthay Circle restaurant they put in

and Mission Breakout, people seem to like a lot. I think it has caught up big time and i think there are days where actually my wife right now is literally at california venture only not going to disneyland oh wow we will definitely do days where we only do california it's got it's got some good i mean it's got soaring and uh and i like soaring a lot and the new soaring it's great Soarin', and I like Soarin' a lot. There's a new Soarin', it's great. Oh, I haven't done the new Soarin'. I haven't done the new Soarin', and I haven't done Guardians of the Galaxy, and I haven't really seen Cars Land, so I'm in trouble.

I mean, yeah. It's terrific. Well, I mean, then you're correct, I think, in the original, yeah, it was a worse park for sure, and it was, yeah, it was definitely, here's what we can do for this budget. And it wasn't as amazing and immersive as Disneyland. But I think it's caught up. Are you avoiding Cars Land because of how much your Doughboys co-host, Nick Weiger, is horned up for Cars Land? It's how much he loves it.

There's a little bit of that, that Nick likes Cars Land too much. Nick also loves the Minions. Have you been on that ride? I have not been on Minion Mayhem, and I don't really want to go on Minion Mayhem. Oh, it's fun. I think it's terrific. I hate this ride. Really?

It's the ultimate bad universal screen ride. Just lame. It is all the same tricks, though. I don't hate it, but it's the same bullshit 3D trick they use on every single ride. I think they're endearing. I think the little girls are endearing. I'm not saying I hate minions. I'm just saying

endearing little girls, huh? I'm in. Paul Scheer the other day was saying that he loves the Transformers ride there and I think the transformers ride is fun it is good and it's like a good mix of like 3d and like kind of a dark ride a little bit but i guess right like it is a it is a 3d dark ride kind of yeah kind of it's exactly the same as a spider-man ride in florida which is a better ride i think it's oh yeah i did i died the last time

when i went in college i did that that spider-man-Man ride was like new, and it was fucking awesome. I loved it. The face you all saw me make about California Adventure, I remember Shear on the Doughboys saying his favorite ride was the Transformers ride, and I think I made that face in the car to myself. No offense to, he is a great man, and Transformers is a great ride, but the greatest of all time. I was like, oh, give me, I wish I was in there. I wish I was in the studio to argue this point.

I feel like I like the mummy ride more than I like even the Transformers ride, just because it's like a dark ride that's kind of like a thrill ride. I'd rather it be, and more so, I guess Transformers is too, but anytime I'm looking at the 3D, if it's a 3D ride, I'm always just like, it doesn't feel the same. You know what I mean? There are too many of these. There are too many screen rides.

I think the fan outcry about screen rides is starting to get back to Disney and Universal, and they're starting to correct course. I think people know that you need to give people big physical experiences, which is why Star Wars, I think, is going to be really exciting. Well, for sure, there will be screen rides in Star Wars. And Nintendo. The Nintendo stuff coming up, I think, is going to have a lot of practical stuff. Which is funny because it's a video game, but they're going to make it practical.

Yeah. They are going to do practical? The Mario Kart ride is supposed to be very big and practical and crazy. That's insane. Like, you're going to go around. Because there's also rumors on it. To not sidetrack, it's too much. Rumors that you'll be able to throw weapons at people.

But, like, some people are arguing they're trying to do it with, like, 3D augmented reality. And then some people are saying, no, you're not going to need glasses for it. They're, like, trying to figure out ways. That's exciting. I don't know how. But, yeah, they're trying to there's people on the message boards who don't think it's doable the way it is they think it's impossible the plans they have and they'll never pull it off like the way they're envisioning it these message board

skeptics shut their mouths let them do their work why don't you believe in these people who've given you so much entertainment we uh it? Back to the park thing. I believe as we were going down to Disney two weeks ago, we decided California Adventure, right now at least, better than Epcot, better than Hollywood Studios. Wow. And at least on par with Animal Kingdom. I think so.

That's an argument I have. A mark against Florida right now is some of the big parks in Disney World have very much lost their way. Like, they're doing so much work on Hollywood Studios. Like, there's hardly anything open at that park. There's barely anything. They just closed the Great Movie Ride. I was just down there last week. I was there the last day of the Great Movie Ride.

That's crazy to me. Which I did not go for. Like, we already had a trip, and it happened to fall. That's crazy to me. Which I did not go for. We already had a trip and it happened to fall. I'm not that insane. Where I'm like, I have to go on the last day. I gotta say goodbye

to Robot Bert. Mary Poppins Bert. I want to see the Ripley animatronic one more time. That weird Ripley. I have to see the creepy Ripley.

The beautiful ladies of Footlight Parade. Maybe a Mappy. They're taking this right out. Do you think that the Footlight Parade animatronics will be on eBay? Could you get one? I bet you could. You guys could buy something.

You can buy something from the Great Movie Ride, I feel like. Yeah. They've got to be selling that. Just a nose of a Footlight. I'm buying individual body parts of the Footlight ladies. The Great Movie Ride is what made me daydream about meeting a cast member. What if I was the mobster that took over the Great Movie Ride? Oh, no kidding.

Yeah. But you would fall in love with the woman who was doing the tour. Yeah, why not? So there would be a whole thing like you guys were like you were working together but then you became in my life in my life fan fiction yes that's what would happen so there's a lot of fake theatrical tension yes beneath it all you're falling in love which is which is funny because that that watching the i watched a great movie ride uh whatever what did they call those uh like a ride through video video and uh that that ride when the like the when the mobster takes over like the ride it's like all right now i'm in charge and then like sits silently and drives you around. Takes the turns calmly.

Makes all the stops still. I feel like that ride could have, if that ride was like fast, like if, if like, and I like, I guess it would just be like that, like awkward minute of being like,

I'm taking over. And then he's like, I'm set to like go. You know what I mean? Like I'm set to like, and then if the ride was like fast or something, then it really, I feel like it would have been, yeah, it would I feel like it would have been a much better ride.

Well, the gangster is greedy, but he believes in driving safety. He doesn't want to hurt himself any more than he wants to hurt anyone else. Oh, sorry. I sent you guys this lately. I found a blog talking about the great movie ride. The week it was closing, a lot of people were posting tributes or their experiences with it. And I found someone write a blog about the early plans for the ride. For one thing, the original tour guide script was like 40 to 60 pages long.

They did all of the talking. Oh my God. Nothing was pre-recorded the other thing was that the shirts they wore had a little ripoff chest pocket and so when the gangster shows up to take over the thing he was going to shoot the tour guide and they would remove the fake pocket and have like a gut shot or a chest shot be like a little little graphic of blood essentially. A blood and a bullet hole so that the gangster shot them.

Whoa. And that was never put into production. That was like cut before it was. But like, wouldn't that have been crazy? Jesus. I had a thing I always wanted to do as a universal tour guide where I wanted to like get a friend of mine to be a plant in one of the tram cars. And when we went through the Jaws attraction,

to have him stand up and have just a stump arm that is spurting blood as if Jaws bit him, which I realize now would have been instant firing. Instant firing. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and to lose that job. How could I have dealt with that? That is a cool job. You did my dream, but in Universal, so it doesn't count.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's zero magic in you. I like the Universal parks, but there's no magic in these places. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you could fall in love with Shrekette or whatever. Or the perfect girl, Shrekette. The woman who plays Lucille Ball. Or generic 40s New York lady hanging out the window.

Oh, who yells at you. Or depressed, like, PA that you see on the actual lot when you drive. That's always the funniest thing to me. Oh, yeah. You go through the actual lot and there's just like hollywood people like carrying a big heavy pole uh uh so so i'm all out of sorts now we're talking about we were talking i was i was about to come back with epcot was one of my favorites yeah yeah and i and i love the troll norway ride and yeah even if those rides are bad.

Yeah, the Maelstrom, yeah. I love all those rides. I'll give you, World Showcase is still very good, even though they've replaced that with Frozen. That's a Frozen ride now. Sorry. I'm sorry. That being said, I went on the Frozen ride and it is great. And I don't like Frozen that much, but it is

very good. Well, that ride is, like, what I remember of Maelstrom, there's a couple, like, you go down a couple times, good. Well, that ride is, like, what I remember of Mils from there, there's, like, a couple, like, you go down, like, a couple times, right? Yeah, you go backwards down a little waterfall, and then you go forward down a waterfall. It's fun. So this is the same track. It's all the same stuff. Yeah. They juiced it up. So World Showcase

is still good, but where Epcot fails now is that they let Future World just, like, be the most depressing, like, monument to the 1980, decaying monument, the Odyssey. It's literally like the ghettos of Epcot. It's so sad. It's so goddamn sad.

Abandoned pavilions. And a park that is based on an optimistic future, you have to keep updating. And they kind of didn't. Like, that's one of the negative things of Florida is that people don't go there as often as, like, Anaheim. If you live in Southern California,

you can pop down to Disneyland for, like, a day, pop over to Universal for a day. But, like, Florida, people go to, like, a few times in their life, so they don't, like, refresh it that often. They also closed Energy, Ellen's Energy Adventure. Do you remember this ride? Mm-hmm.

And it's 45 minutes long. We'll do a full episode on it eventually. It's 45 minutes long. It's got Bill Nye. It's got Ellen and Alex Trebek and Jamie Lee Curtis as another Jeopardy! contestant. Correct me if I'm wrong. Was that like a very big,

like when you sit in it? Yes. Yes. It's like a ton of people, right? It's a moving theater. It's a moving theater. Okay, yes. Okay, yeah, I remember this.

Even slower than the Great Movie Ride. And I hadn't been on it in 20 years, and it was closing, and oh my, this thing is the biggest piece of shit. It has not aged well at all. Like Great Movie Ride, I'm bummed that they closed it. I think they should have just put better stuff in. Yeah. This thing is the biggest piece of shit. It has not aged well at all. Great movie, but I'm bummed that they closed it. I think they should have put better stuff in. But Ellen's Energy Adventure, it's the most dated.

It's so weird. It's 2017, and that's a perfect example of what happened to Epcot. We just, this shitty dated movie play in here for 20 years. With literally with an Ellen that predates everyone's conception of Ellen. You know, we all know Ellen from the talk show. And this is Ellen from the sitcom pre-coming out Ellen. Like it is another Ellen that we don't even recognize anymore. It's very bizarre. And Alex Trebek with the mustache, too.

Yeah, that's true. These icons before the biggest change in their lives. Michael Richards without a speaking role. What? Wow. Yeah, like as a caveman. He doesn't say anything. He's just a brief shot of he's like a caveman. Also before his defining event. I was gonna say,

you should never have said another thing. Ellen Cleghorn with a line on this as well. Wow. So this is an old thing, and it's gone now. It's going to be replaced by a Guardians of the Galaxy ride. I'm not joking. But it needs to be replaced. It needed to be replaced.

The tributes I saw to that, people seemed to like the design of the building, some tile art when you walked in, and the scene where you go through, like, the dinosaur world. Like, that's what people wanted. Maybe they'll keep the dinosaurs around somehow in the Guardians ride. I don't know. I think that there's a rumor they will. But there's a chance in five to ten years, all these parks are going to be amazing again.

I think they're going to get them. But right now, two of the parks. I want to hear all the IP opinions. It just doesn't fit in Epcot. No, that's right. Guardians of the Galaxy shouldn't be in Epcot Center. You're making the Disney fan argument, actually. A lot of people feel this way.

I don't because I don't care about Marvel or Guardians of the Galaxy or any of it, but I'm pro anything that gets new attractions built. I like rides as much as anyone, but when I went my senior year of college, I was your sophomore year of college at Ithaca,

just for everyone who's tracking the Ithaca connection. How many points did you both have? Oh, I was almost out of points. I was almost out of there. Yeah, I went through those points pretty quickly. We didn't really know each other that well in college, though. No, I feel like I had met you, though, a couple times.

Yeah, once or twice. You know, Ithaca, the comedy scene has gotten much, much better. Yeah. They have improv and sketch and stuff, which they did not really have when we were there. I think there was maybe- There was one club that when I i graduated i was the president yes that's which i which i which i knew you were i knew you were the president but even that club i remember i went to a meeting like i like i went to the one of those that club one time when i was there like my

freshman so this before you got there yeah and i was like this is like like this is bad yeah like it was bad news at that point you probably probably turned it all around, I'm sure. I mean, a little. But also, like, a second club opened up. Like, more groups started coming. What was this club? What's the name of the club? It was like the Ithaca Comedy Club.

And we would put on sketch shows or, like, do stand-up shows and a little bit of short-form improv. No one really did any long-form improv. No one really did any long-form improv. There's so many college long-form improv groups which always makes me laugh because it's like well, who is teaching? The senior in the club is teaching the freshman how to do long-form improv.

Of course. Now if I'm not mistaken, they have a course that actually lets you at the end become a birthday boy. Sketch improv and birthday boy. That is a guy. Sketch, improv, and birthday boy. There's 700 birthday boys now. You add anyone who gets A- or higher. There are regional chapters of the birthday boys.

You guys should license. I have a depressing thing to say about that in one second, but I was going to say, with the comedy club, wasn't it in like that, when I first went to it, it was in a little dining area, like a cafe. Yeah, which they also cleaned up. Oh, okay.

Like my, after you left. They really cleaned up the cafe. Great. Thanks a lot, Ithaca. You cleaned everything up after I left. You know what else happened after you left? The tuition just kept going up. And I'm sure that was happening while you were there too.

It was happening while I was there for sure. And then like I went back like years later. I'm like, it's much nicer. Like this and I'm sure that was happening while you were there too. It was happening when I was there for sure and then like I went back like years later and I'm like it's much nicer like this I'm mad like you made it so much nicer

than when I was there which I guess is maybe it can relate to Epcot in some ways. Yeah. Thanks for tying that back. Thank you. Yeah.

The refurbishment of the Ithaca. My one story is that the birthday boys went to Ithaca and there was like like probably like 40 to 50 people of the Ithaca my one story is that the birthday boys went to Ithaca and there was like uh

like probably like 40 to 50 people in the auditorium right uh and uh

they I was talking to like my old professor who one didn't recognize me and that she was talking about she was like yeah like

a few months back Funnier Die had come here and it was a Dave Franco and McLovin, and the lines were out the doors, and they chased them to their cars, and I was like, what the fuck? Fuck this fucking place.

Anyways, I- Yeah, that's like IP being put somewhere it doesn't belong. Just like- Like an Epcot. Just like an Epcot. Just like an Epcot Center. When I was a senior college, we went to Epcot. What is the ride in the big ball? Spaceship Earth. Spaceship Earth.

Spaceship Earth. Presented by Siemens. I was like, I want to do Spaceship Earth, and we did it. I was with my my godmother basically and she and she was like

and her son and like at the end of the ride they both were like that like sucked why did you take us in that but I liked I liked I liked

it also it did it did like it stalled and we were like on it for like 15 extra minutes and we sort of and then we did the, like, 15 extra minutes. Oh, sure. And then we did the figment ride where he sings Imagination or whatever, and they were all so mad about that.

But I liked those. Like, that, in my mind, is the type of thing you're supposed to see at Epcot. Like, I feel like the world is strange now in that they were like, we can't even, like, imagine what the future will be like anymore. Like, so instead, we'll give you star lord and like in my mind i'm like at least then like the 80s they were like they were like like a like a like they would be like a roomba or something you know what i mean like like their idea of what the real conception some some ideas at least and i'm just like sure like star lord and Groot, that's not like, what the fuck is that? Well, they're promising that these rides will not only have IP, but will have the spirit of Epcot in them.

We'll see if it happens. Inventiveness, and you would hate how they tied it in. What is this thing? Oh, that Peter Quill had been to Epcot as a child. That's such garbage. I hate that. Here's the thing, which makes me maybe not hate it, is there's rumors that that ride then will be a best of Epcot ride.

Well, I'm on board for that. You will still get the dinosaur portion of the ride. You will get Horizon references. This could be just cramming the characters in just for the kids, for the this could be like just like cramming the characters in just for like the kids for the kids to be like

I want to go on the Guardians ride but it's like full of old Epcot shit and it'll be a monument to Epcot the second Guardians

movie has come out and it is bad and like do we really care about like the first Guardians movie I can't even remember

what happened in that movie but these are big hit movies. People really... My mom likes Groot. That's the thing. Whether the movie you like...

If a mom likes Groot, it's going in the park. That's why they're putting in a Friends from College ride. High demand for the Netflix series. I do agree with what you're saying, Mitch. It's a little weird to see characters in there, and it's crazy how, like, yeah, when this park opened, it was so optimistic and, like, you know, looking at a bleeding-edge future.

And I do think it's crazy that they haven't, like, just given one of the pavilions of, like, this is the personal computing pavilion, and Apple, do what you want with it. Like, just Apple, make us a thing. Like, do what you want with it. Like, just Apple, make us a thing. Where do you want to go, honey? I want to go to the personal computing pavilion.

Personal computing, buddy. Because that is something that's like... I agree. We need a better name. We need a better name is all I'm saying. That's like the nerdy way of saying it. I agree with what you're saying, though. I do. I would prefer it was all new rides with new characters, a

different character. Like, Figment was made up for the parks. Figment is better than Star-Lord, as far as characters go. I like Figment more than Star-Lord. You'll get no argument here. They need a new Figment ride. That's another one that's stuck in the 90s. I am also with Scott in the sense

that whatever gets that place that does... It's a graveyard right now. If it'll be better, we'll do it. How many Guardians of the Galaxy rides are going into Epcot? Just one. Just one. Okay. And it's replacing this Ellen ride that is a crappy ride. Which is horrible. But then also, like,

God, Frozen is in there, too. But they're building... Star Wars is coming. New Star Wars. So what is... Is it still Norway over there? Is that like? Yeah, it's still Norway. It's all still, but it's like. Wait, so Frozen takes place in Norway?

I guess. In theory. Yeah. Yeah, that's a shady one. There's a lot more. They're fudging some stuff to get these rides in. Ratatouille ride is going to be in the France pavilion. It's all, I will.

You know what? I'm fine. That's okay. That makes sense. Ratatouille ride in France makes perfect sense. Yeah. But it's a screen ride. It's a, it's a, it's all you know what i'm fine that's okay that makes sense ratatouille ride in france makes perfect sense yeah but it's a screen ride it's a it's a uh it's a transformer they make it they said they may make it better yeah yeah hopefully hopefully i went on it's not great all right in paris let's talk about a different topic can i just quickly say how how dated the

simpsons ride already feels i agree and it hasn't even been a decade since it's opened. The projection is bad. It's like dark in there. They didn't update it from the system, from the Back to the Future system, which is 30 years, 25 years old. So it's, yeah, it's hard to see. Yes.

It's all the same tricks that they use in the Minions ride. The Minions ride is maybe better than the Simpsons ride. I feel like it's just... You just like characters are better than the Simpsons. Better projector, better screen, I think. It's just all going to feel dated soon. But before you move on to the next subject, why is Disney... I keep bumping this thing.

Why is Disneyland better than Disney World? That's when I say topic, I didn't mean... Oh, okay. We're doing just another like, so you're talking about how, you know, it's a world versus it's a small place.

Yeah. Because I was just there. So, when I went back four years ago, I hadn't been in a decade. Okay. And my memory is similar to yours where it was like a magical place

where around every bend could be, what is this? It's trees. And then all of a sudden, oh my God, it's a whole theme park. But when you go back as an adult, you're like, it's just a

big fucking swamp. It's just a big swamp. And most of the time you spend there is in swamp transit. You're in like a bus. You're in a cold bus. Now, I do like how much space it is. It's cool. But so much of it is like you're waiting in line for a bus.

Then you take a bus through some swamp land to the theme park, and it's like, this isn't, I don't know, it is like you're on the bus, and you're like, that's nice when you get to park in that Mickey and Friends parking in Anaheim, and you go on one tram, and there you are. Yeah.

Both parks are right there. But I will say, to be fair, there's a lot of boat rides that are very magical in Florida. So you can take boats from like Epcot to Hollywood Studios. You can take boat. We took a boat from Disney Springs to our hotel. Lovely. So that does have.

Yeah, that's great. And monorail is great. Taking the monorail. The monorail, yeah. So I'm saying good and bad in Florida as far as like it being this giant spread out world. Anaheim benefits from the fact that like everything is right there. You can walk everywhere. You can walk to the hotels. You can everything is right there. You can walk everywhere. You can walk to the hotels.

You can walk between two parks. You can walk to downtown Disney. Small, though. That makes it small. It's small. But to the point that when Universal built out their Orlando parks, they took that design. The two parks are next to each other. The hotels and the city walk are spread out.

You can still walk to everything, and there's a boat system if it's just a little too far to walk. That's true. And all the other Disney parks, Tokyo and Paris, the parks are right next to each other. They haven't done these other giant sprawling. They don't have a state-sized piece of property to build out. This will never happen again in the world that a company buys that much. I was looking up the acreage. Disneyland is about 50,

which that seems too small, but something like 50, and Disney World is 144,000 acres, which you'll never see that again. One company slowly buying up that amount of acreage. That's so insane. Wait, so hold on.

Besides that, what else? What else you got? Scott, let's hear it. It's entirely about acreage? That's so insane. Wait, so hold on. Besides that, what else? Scott, let's hear it. It fits entirely with that acreage. I mean, I should get, yeah, what's an argument I have? You're right, the castle's better. Oh, God. Well, you know, I think this doesn't make it better necessarily,

but you're right about, as you said, yeah, it's the original. They were able to update, they were able to address the problems that Disney World had with Disney World. They didn't want it to get immediately surrounded by seedy shit and for there to be hotels immediately on the border, which is why there is so much space on the outside, or know what why uh why disney world is so massive but um you know it's not their fault that uh you know they didn't want all that shit right on the outside and i think disney world benefits from uh coming at being able to address the mistakes of disneyland which i guess is an argument for disney world being better also but come on cut him a break because he really likes Disney World, right?

Well, Walt originally bought that property to build a giant experimental city. He was more interested in Epcot in Florida than he was in Magic Kingdom. He was more interested in a futuristic city with a Disneyland park next to it. Which is the coolest thing of all, is that he wanted to make some weird... I love that. But that was the first thing when he died. They're like, well, we're not building that giant experimental city anymore. Giant experimental non-Jewish city. Oh, God.

Just like, we'll just take a drop of your blood before you come in. We'll run a quick scan on it. No, it's just to see what diseases you have. It's not about genetic makeup. No, I think... Well, also, here's a big argument. Disneyland is better than the Magic Kingdom. I think you compare those two parts. Those are the same format of park, and I think Disneyland is better.

It's better laid out. It's like a better laid out park. It's more. With, you don't have New Orleans Square and Critter Country and Toontown. And I guess they briefly had a Toontown. They had a minor Toontown. A minor Toontown. It's not fair.

There's more distinct... The lands are better and more distinct. Everything kind of bleeds more in Florida. All of a sudden, the Speedway is right there, but you're in Fantasyland. And it's... I don't know. You can just see it. In Disneyland, everything is kind of smaller,

so it makes it feel like you're going into these little different areas, like of the frontier. You're buying that, right? Right? Yeah. Sure. Oh, no, different little areas. Well, I guess that is fair that Magic Kingdom doesn't have as many good rides as Disneyland has in it, right?

I don't think so. And I think Space Mountain is pretty inarguably better in Disneyland. Yeah, Space Mountain is better here. Space Mountain is much better. It's gotten a refresh more recently. The Florida one is very rickety, and it kind of hurts. I think we've got a better Pirates, I would say. We have a better Pirates, because we have the restaurant.

We have the Blue Bayou, which looks out, which is superior. Yeah. Anaheim benefits from the Southern California weather, too. Like, it doesn't rain as much. Like, the first time I came to Disneyland, I was like, did they just paint everything? Like, everything looked so vivid. And that summer, I had just been in Florida, and it was one of those periods of time

where they kind of let the Florida parks go to hell a little. Like, there was a bunch of stuff that was broken, and, like, the paint was super faded, because it rains there all the time. Yeah, and it's humid. The humidity is insane. And people are coming from around the world for, like, long, expensive vacations,

so, like, they can't shut stuff down for long, expensive vacations, so they can't shut stuff down for as long as they can out here. By the way, I went on the Big Red Boat, one of the first- The cruise. Oh, the cruise. The cruise. That is another way I got to Disney. I forgot.

We did the Big Red Boat. You took it down there and docked wherever? Wow. We took it down to Disney. We went down to Disney. It was like we went down to Disney. And I got to say this, the big red boat sucked so much. It was early on and I've told this story before, but I was in a jacuzzi. I was like, I don't know.

So this must have been like when I was like in fourth or fifth grade. And I was in the jacuzzi and uh a log of shit floated up were you alone in the jacuzzi and there there were other people there were other people there it was not my log of shit no no that's not even what i was asking i was just saying like was it just like stuck somewhere and then it floated up or somebody shit while you were in there but i don't know if it was like one of them I had no idea. But also, I remember the pools being salty or something. It was very strange. It was early on and bad. And my godfather was puking the entire time.

I feel like cruise ships in the last even 20 years have gotten so, so much better. I think Disney took a much more hands-on role with them now. Yeah, because they just sort of licensed that big red boat. That was pre them actually building the boats themselves. Right. Okay, that makes sense. That being said, I don't really want to go on these Disney boats.

Have you done a Disney boat? I've never done it. Does anybody want to do a Disney boat? I did a cruise to Bermuda once on Norwegian Cruise Line with my family. But you didn't do a Disney? Never a Disney one, no. Okay. I think you guys now have to do it now that like Norwegian Cruise Line with my family. But you didn't do a Disney. Never a Disney one, no. Okay. I think you guys now have to do it now that we're doing this podcast.

Yeah, that's true. Well, and it's all write-offs, baby. That's what we're doing. That's the entire methodology here. Also, unlike the Doughboys, we can 100% be bought. Like Disney Universal sent us. That's what it's all about. We're looking.

We started this thing so we can get a free trip to Dollywood. We want to go to Dollywood. We want to go to Dollywood. We want to cover a new ride, a new Christian-themed ride. I've been to Dollywood before. Really? I have, yes. Good. I dated someone who lived in Tennessee, and we went to Dollywood.

What did you think? Dollywood is fun. I bet. It looks good. It's like a big frontier land. I love it. That's a great review. Dollywood is fun. I bet. It looks good. It's like a big frontier land. I love it. Sure. That's a great review.

Yeah. There's Dolly's cabin that she grew up in, and you see how small... It's funny how much people, they love Dolly so much. It is a funny, weird thing where there are some thrill rides or whatever, but are, like, some, like, kind of, like, thrill rides or whatever. But, like, it is, like, kind of closer, cheaper to, like, it feels like Six Flags-y or something, but, like, specifically dolly themed or whatever. Well, I think every other, if you're not operating from the Disney price point, it's always, every other theme park is going to be a little, like, step down in terms of production value, and that doesn't mean they can't be charming and fun. I bet Dio is real charming. It's a lot of fun. It is, yeah. Well,

look forward to going there for free. Maybe a good in-between point for us and Scaramucci to meet. Oh, yeah. If he's an East Coaster, and see you there. We'll see you at the Margaritaville Hotel in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee.

Another knock against Florida is that it smells worse. I'm sorry, but it does. A mix of some humans, the plastic, there's a little nostalgia but also like

it's just there's overwhelmingly weird smells and all the rides we are constantly being blasted with air conditioning the air conditioning

is crazy one I love that I think that's great I do too and I love that smell because it's like a weird theme park smell Jack Allison used to say

that my car smells like the E.T. ride oh and I take pride in that. I mean, like, I love the weird, like, basement-y smelling. I do like that smell, too. And I like the one, the Anaheim smells are a little bit less strong than the ones in Florida. Like, the Carousel of Progress smells so weird.

I don't know why. Take its name out of your mouth. These are all great things. To experience smells that are not readily available every day. Because of the weather, it smells like a comic convention everywhere because of the people not

putting on enough deodorant. That doesn't turn you off though. You're fine with that. I am fine with that. So you're right. You've destroyed that argument for me. That Florida heat though, that can get to you. That can drive people crazy. If you're right. You've destroyed that argument for me. That Florida heat though, that can get to you. Like that can drive people crazy. If you're not taking breaks and staying really hydrated. Now my family, we've gone

so much. We usually go in August because it's cheaper and we don't notice. Like we don't notice. It's like, yeah, it's hot. It was 90 degrees every day. We were there for seven days. Yeah. And you, there were like, you go into the gift shop and there was, I remember there's a mother head in hands, just like leaning up against the wall, sitting down with no

family around. And like, it seemed like someone should go help her. I don't know. Like, like it's a real. There's a madness that can set in. Yes. I think you're more likely to have a full mental breakdown in Disney World than Disneyland. Probably. I think families who have made that odyssey just break.

And you see it happen. I like humidity more than dry heat. Like sometimes at Disneyland in Anaheim, like the sun is just so blindingly strong. Jason, I agree with you. I'm with you. I like to sweat it out. I like the humidity. I like the humidity too.

Give me a little humidity. Get some moistness going. It's good. When I first came to Southern California, I thought like the humidity, too. Give me a little humidity. Get some moistness going. It's good. When I first came to Southern California, I thought, like, oh, it's hot. It'll be like Florida. And I'm just like, why is everything so dry? Jason, you and I are on the same page. I'm on the same page.

When I brought this up on Doughboys, I remember at a comedy show, you said that you thought it would be pelican weather out here, which is what I did. I thought it would be like that, too. But it's not. It's not pelican weather at all. It's not pelican weather at all i don't even know this term it's like scorpion weather the driest it's so dry and and and so like and like it is like the just the sort of sun that will like will just like kill you like like i'm like oh i would die like if it was a 200 300 years ago or something before this was developed before california was

really developed if i was just here i'd die in a day or something like that and probably same thing with florida or anywhere well where everyone's gonna die everywhere and these conditions will both both scorpion and pelican weather will get so much worse in the next decade. But in Florida, it starts raining. You get the rain. It's nice. I like the rain. I do like the rain.

It can help with crowd control and look very pretty. We went on Expedition Everest in the rain. Great. We got pelted in the face with rain. It hurt a little bit, but that was part of it. That's awesome. It was awesome. I've been in terrifying Disney World rain, though.

Like, just... Yeah, oh yeah. It was that level. It was that level of bad. My dad and I had to run three blocks in pouring rain in a lightning storm, like, through the 90s downtown Disney, because the bus station was at, like, the far end.

And we're just, like, running from, like, overhang to overhang as we're watching, like, lightning strikes in the distance, and it's just like running from like overhang to overhang as we're watching like lightning strikes in the distance and it's like we just need to get on that bus

and it's because I made him stay at the Adventurers Club theater and restaurant until last call because I wanted to see every show. That's a parent

breaking story. Parents break. Oh yeah. I would break I would drive my father crazy. Like, I would. I would. One of the things I did love about Florida that is so crazy looking back on is people

like, oh, we have like 20 minutes until this fast pass goes on. And I'm like, well, we can go on Pirates of the Caribbean. And he would just be like, Jace, that's on the other side of the park. It's half a mile away. We have 20 minutes. I'm like, Jace, that's on the other side of the park. That's half a mile away. We have 20 minutes. I'm like, well, if we run. He's like, I'm not going to run. I'm on vacation.

It's 80 degrees out. Adults don't sprint for fun. Yeah. Hey, I don't know. What else haven't we hit? I'll say a couple pro-Florida things. Yeah. I'll be nuts because obviously I love Florida, too.

Well, the ultimate answer is I always would rather be at either of these than anywhere else in the world. That's true. I agree with that. It is better than reality world. Real life. Real life is horrible. Yeah. So Florida, the Tomorrowland in Florida is slightly better than the one out here. And I'll say this, there are more robots in that Tomorrowland. There are robots everywhere. There's that, what's the, uh, what's the guy?

There's a trash can. There's a trash can. There's a guy. There's a guy who wanders around now, right? Like a wheeled robot. What's his name? God damn it. He's new he's new there's a man who's pretending to be a robot and he like wheels around on wheels and he takes pictures with people and he's a totally made up character which i like an original there's an original character they'll turn it into a movie i should look up his new as soon as anyone remembers his name it'll become a movie i love

tomorrowland in florida like that as a kid when when they first redid Tomorrowland in Florida to be like the future that never was. Like, I loved it. And I would just ride the People Mover over and over again. And I love Carousel of Progress to this day. That Robin Williams ride, the Timekeeper. Oh, the Timekeeper ride. That was really fun. You ever go on that?

I probably have rode all these rides. And I've ridden all... What is the right word? Rode or ridden? Ridden. Rode. Roden. I've rode in all these rides.

You've done rodening on the rides. I've done rode in all these rides, and I can't remember a lot of them. But I was just remembering that there's a Brown Derby in Disney World. Yes, I ate there, yeah. And it has, which has, I mean, the original Brown Derby is in Los Feliz. It's at Chase Bank now. It's basically, it's Mess Hall. Yeah, it's at Mess Hall.

It's Mess Hall and Chase Bank. Oh, I didn't realize that. And that's where the first Cobb salad was. Wow. So you get that in Disney, and it's a great Cobb salad down there. That is good. I like that. And then also, I was just remembering good food stuff.

When I was younger, we went to some German place, and then there was a live show, and they brought my dad out of the audience, and they put Lederhosen on him, and he conducted the orchestra. MGM Studios? Maybe, yeah. No, I don't think so. The German Beer Hall. Oh, oh, oh, at Epcot. Right, right. on him and he had like conducted like the orchestra uh mgm studios maybe yeah no no i don't think so beer hall oh oh adept right right yeah the german beer beer hall yeah yeah better food better clothes sure custom leader hose over your guests i found them i found the robot his name is i can uh-huh and here's a photo of him that's cool i like i can take yeah yeah he

takes photos with people so there's a lot more. Yeah. So we were talking about food. I will say this. Florida has a better downtown Disney now. Disney Springs is what they call downtown Disney now. And they've recently renovated it. There's a new plan in Hollywood, which I heard the food is horrible, but I didn't eat there. I ate at a place called the Boathouse, which is right on the water. Oh, yeah.

You can drive like you have a man in a captain's uniform drive you in a Corvette into the water. And they'll drive you around. It's an aqua car. Oh, you did that thing. I didn't do it, but we should have. It was raining real bad. Great. Oh, whoa.

Fantastic. There's a place that I didn't go called Paddlefish, which is a giant. It looks like it's on the Mark Twain Riverboat, but it's just docked. It's great. I mean, Disney Springs is great. Doesn't Disney World also have Pleasure Island? That's gone. That's replaced that.

Yeah. Oh, it replaced it. Okay. Yeah, that they have updated. Like, every 10 years, they sort of do a refresh and put in new restaurants and like more like there's an Edison going down there the LA bar

and Edison is going into Disney Springs in Florida so is Disney Springs basically like it is it is Pleasure whatever

Pleasure Island yeah yeah yeah it is Pleasure Island basically they took out all the old mannequins and 8 tracks and all the Z named

I never got to experience Pleasure Island. I wonder how it was back in the day. I would have loved to do it. I know. Pleasure Island as an adult. I went all the time. Yeah, we didn't go. I went as a kid. It was a little weird as a kid to be walking around outside of what were essentially

nightclubs. Did you and another kid put on a trench coat and get on each other's shoulders? No. There was a few, like, that's where I first saw live comedy, I think.

There was a place called the Comedy Warehouse, just people doing, like, short form games. And I feel like some real professional comedians, like,

I think Paula Pell, like, that was the first place she did live comedy. She would, like, I think she sat, like,

she would, like, sit on men's laps and be bawdy when she was, like, 18 and 19 and 20. That was her job. Disney World once had Paula Pell. This horny side of Disney World is funny to me.

I didn't see it. Oh, that's where it got bawdy at Pleasure Island. It went down at Pleasure Island. I had a friend who worked at Epcot when she was 18, and it sounds like like, it sounds like it was just a fuck around, like a free-for-all. Damn it. So you take your Norway babe when she gets off work to old body pleasure island and you

start getting some ideas in her head. That's where I was saying me and my dad were when a lightning storm was bringing out was the Adventurers Club, which was like a middle century, like explorers club.

And there were different, you'd go into study and there was a show and you'd go in the library and there was a show and there was all these bars and there was characters walking around and animatronics on the wall that would talk to you. Uh, and that was like my favorite thing in the world for years. It's what my phone case is. Like I have a phone case for a long gone Disney attraction.

Here's a strike against Florida. Not a lot of couples without kids in their 30s. Way more in Disneyland. Way more in Disneyland and in Florida because my girlfriend and I are there. And it's weird because in Florida they would constantly be like, parties of two? Parties of looking for people in line that were just two people, because that is a very rare thing. Yeah, my dad and I would get that all the time. Yeah.

Out here, it's all parties of two. It's all people in their 30s with no kids. That's so funny. It's a whole different... Everyone's got kids. Everyone is there. Probably like six to seven kids. A lot of kids

It's like a mandatory vacation And then there's these just two Like kids We met these English kids in line With their parents Oh fun And they're like This has happened to me a couple times out here too

Where you can see the kids looking at us And trying to figure out how old we are Because like we're not dressed like mom and dad. But you're older. The man has hair that's white. His side of his hair is white. And yet a t-shirt with Mickey and sunglasses and a surfboard. Mickey, he's dressed like I am.

Now I don't want to go to Disney World. Maybe Disneyland is better for this embarrassment factor. It's a better place. Disneyland's better to go alone, as we will sometimes. Yes. So if you're an adult person without kids, Disneyland is by far the better option. And Mike, you were looking for couples in Florida because you guys were looking to swing. Yeah, we were looking.

We were trying, but everyone had kids and it was too much of a hassle to put them away. You're thinking people are in Florida. They're loose. They want to have a good time. It's funny that we went from like, oh, Pleasure Island is crazy, right over to like, it's all families. We went to both sides of it. If you were looking for people to swing with at Disney World, where do you think you'd

go? Is it the Planet Hollywood? Is it one of the World Showcase pavilions? Are people getting loose on that sake in Japan? I think it's a World Showcase, because the World Showcase is a party. The World Showcase is by far the one thing I would trade a ton of stuff here for that. The World Showcase is so big and awesome, and there is kind of a Vegas vibe where everyone's specialty cocktail is just some big slushy drink with a little vodka in it. They try to act like it's a Heart of Japan drink, and it's like, well, this is just a green margarita, and there's a red margarita in China. Which Disney couple do you think would be most likely to swing with you?

You mean the characters? Yeah, characters. That's good. That's a good question. I mean, maybe one of these princess couples because they don't seem like they... Snow White and the Prince and Cinderella and the Prince I feel like have barely met. Maybe that marriage starts and they get bored

right away. Yeah. Timon and Pumbaa? Timon and Pumbaa. They party. I think they're gay, right? Yeah. I think so. I think they are. Implied.

I don't know how they have sex. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm crazy. There's no way for them to have sex without Timon getting lost in one of his orifices. Maybe that's a part of it.

He spends a day up in Pumbaa somewhere. I have a thing in Florida's favor. Your money goes a lot farther in Florida than in California. Like, in general, but especially at the Disney parks, I feel like. Damn.

I think there's... I mean, the hotels in Disneyland, like the Disneyland Hotel and the Grand Californian are very nice, but they're very expensive because there's not that many rooms, so they kind of have to price it prohibitively. And they're so close that the value is so good in terms of you can just crash right in one of those hotels. Yeah.

So, I mean, it's great to stay at them, but you can get a much nicer room in Florida, I feel like, for much less. There's a couple dozen hotels on the Florida property. And in a hotel, it says sports on the outside or something. Yeah. There's a big basketball next to it. You can get any price of hotel, I guess, in Disney World on property from the All-Stars. Mike, you stayed at Port Orleans Riverside. Yeah.

And they, I mean, it's like a cheaper, it's a mid-range hotel. It's a mid-range, but it's still pretty good. It's still pretty good. And they turn a blind eye on swinging. They'll look the other way. They encourage it. Can I also say that another plus for Florida is, as a big guy in Florida, a bunch of more fat people, I feel...

You blend in. Yeah, I feel almost a little small. It's good. In California, you got all these fit people and you know how it is. I remember the last time I was there, the sheer size of people on the scooters and the wheelchair

carts. It's a lot of rascals in Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sizes you don't see every day in LA necessarily. So it's a self-esteem builder. It's nice. Jason, I like the idea of there's a lot of rascals, not meaning like the actual rascals. There's a lot of rascals in Florida.

There's also a lot of kids. Yeah, there's a lot of little scamps. They're off the leash. They're off the leash. They're off the leash in Florida. Disneyland, that's their world, not ours.

That's their world. Well, are we getting to, I don't think we have any structure of how to end this. I don't know. What do you think? Do we change our minds?

Before, I mean, I guess the answer is I will never change my opinion about Disney World being not as good as Disney. I think Disney World is still better. But you know what? I agree with you. I'd rather be at both places than anywhere else.

They're both great. I think what we've learned, yes, is Disney World and Disneyland tie in the battle against reality. Which the cold reality that we'll have to face as soon as we leave this studio. We could go straight to Anaheim. My wife is there. My wife's mother is there. Is my pass good?

I think my blackout dates are over at this point, right? They better be. If not, you'll have to upgrade. If you guys go to Disney after this, I will think you are all losers. Officially. But only if that. Otherwise, we're the coolest, toughest dudes.

I was going to ask you guys before we signed off what your favorite food was from Disney or restaurant. Because I went on the line for Pizza Port, which I don't even know if there is a Pizza Port in Disney World. I don't believe so. No. But I like how old and dumb Pizza Port is. Yeah. And, of course, I love churros and I love, whatchamacallit, Dole Whips. But what are your guys' favorite food slash restaurant at Disney?

Stuff you can only get at Disney. Carthay Circle for two different. There's two. Carthay Circle is the restaurant and bar in California Adventure. They have a very nice, expensive meal you can get for lunch or dinner. They also, though, which is maybe my favorite place, they have a lounge. It's a lounge with a nice bar, and they make you a nice Manhattan, the Carthay Manhattan with that circular ice.

You get a little chicken sandwich. You get a cocktail. You get two hours in the middle of the day. It's a nice little cool-off period. A nice sort of mahogany. It's a nice atmosphere. It's a cool little study lounge kind of vibe. Where is it again?

It's in California Ventura. You haven't been to this place, right? This might turn it around. You've got to go. I swear that every time I bring anyone here, everyone's like, this is the greatest. This is the place. It's like everyone's favorite place in California Adventure. All right.

I got to go. It's great. We're going after this. Come on down. Come on down. Yeah. You know, $110 to get in. Then a meal that's $100.

A $15 cocktail. If you want a park hop, though, it's an extra $40. Parking as well. You could pay us for gas, too. That'd be nice. Thanks, Mitch. Overall, even though there's a lot less choices in Disneyland, I think Disneyland usually has the more consistent

food. Florida has a lot of pizza and burgers and amazing, amazing fine dining, but in terms of just kind of counter service food, California wins very easily, I think. I think so. Yeah. Hey, you got to shout out those Mickey bars. Love that in either part.

Oh, yeah. Sure. Mickey bars are great. Yeah. I like the Dreyer's ice cream. Mm-hmm. Just standard, like a double scoop in a sprinkle cone. Did I sound like

I was getting wistful there? at the store? You sort of got whispery. I got whispering weird. Which I think was the, hey,

we would love to treat you guys to a double scoop in a sprinkle cone. It's like, you want to come back to Port Orleans with us.

An ASMR section of the podcast where I just describe the food that i have i love it i get i have as a asmr i get i get that do you do it it's too much for me i can't my girlfriend likes it i i don't i don't listen to like the podcast but anytime i have the asmr feeling i'm like ah that feels nice it's a very nice feeling for those i feel bad for those who don't get it. It's nice. There's not an ASMR podcast on Feral, is there? If so...

There will be soon. Have us on to whisper about, respectively, theme parks and chain restaurants. There used to be a really good fried green tomato sandwich at the Hungry Bear restaurant in Frontier and Critter Country. Please don't watch videos on your phone in line for rides without headphones. I'd like to enjoy the full themed experience. I agree with that too.

They never should have taken Rex out. There's a roast beef sandwich at Flo's in Cars Land that's just terrific. I've had that. That is good. Yeah, that's good. That's probably up there for me. Cars Land is good food too. Cars Land is good food, too.

Cars Land is good food. There's a nice cocktail in Cars Land you can get. There's a place in the cove, the Cove Bar, which has lobster nachos in California Adventure. Very good. Lobster nachos are great. Great view. I always feel like Disney food is pretty good, actually.

It's certainly gotten better over the last 10, 15 years. That's something. Universal Studios is garbage in terms of food. The entire operation in either part. Except for the fried chicken. I used to like Doc Brown's fried chicken, which is now- I did too. Yeah.

Well, they use the same recipe at Cletus's. Yes. Which is good. They have the recipe. Hey, now that we could do. That's closer. Hey, Cletus's. Cletus's chicken.

Sawn meat. Sure. I don't think any of us have Universal Pits. I do. I have one, yeah. That is a thing you could do on Doughboys is the Simpsons Fast Food Boulevard because it is, there are multiple locations. There's one in Florida and one in California.

So technically a franchise. Jason, sadly, we have plans to do, we've talked about this, sadly, we're going to do Simpsons World. It's pretty good. Simpsons World, I guess. Oh, hey, hooray. Okay. So look forward to that. Check the two boys out.

I'll give my final thoughts real quick. It's quantity versus quality. Disneyland more consistently delivers in every aspect. Disney World, there is so much. You're going to find so much good stuff. It's just that it's not all, it's a little bit more hit and miss when you're going to the parks or the restaurants. That's my, that's the ultimate judgment.

But I like that it makes room for weird off-brand rides. Like you feel a pressure in Disneyland that the rides have to be kind of really clean and perfect. And I like that there was Ellen's Energy Adventure, even though it's getting out of there. I like weird stuff like the Maelstrom or the Mexico Boat Ride. I like that you end up with these odd, fringe rides

that you'd never see at Disneyland because there's so much space to just do whatever. There should be more of it, honestly. Thank you, Scott. Well, as I said, I don't hate Disney World. I like... Yeah, we love both of them. Yeah, yeah. That's a very arbitrary podcast topic, to be honest, I don't hate Disney World. Yeah, we love both of them. Yeah, yeah. It's a very arbitrary podcast topic, to be honest.

I like that, and I'll whisper it for ASMR. Oh, boy. The Disney bubble. Wait. The Disney bubble. There we go. I didn't really whisper. Let's all just stay in the bubble, guys.

That's what I'll say for my wrap-up, is I agree with Mike about the quantity and quality. uh for florida once you get onto that property oh man a week in that disney bubble five days in that disney bubble forget about the real world it's terrific agreed um i'll say disneyland's better but disney world will be better as soon as Trump shows up. See you soon, DJT. Well, on that note, let's wrap the whole thing up and thank our guest, Mike Mitchell. Mike Mitchell, you survived Podcast The Ride. It was a thrilling ride.

I would love to go down to California Adventure. I could see more of it. So whenever you guys ever go down there, I'll come with. We've got to do it. It's a great hangout, a great spot. Yeah, yeah. We'll show you a great time. Right now, let's go.

We'll see you in our car outside. And hey, join us and join Podcast The Ride the group on Facebook at Podcast The Ride on Instagram and Twitter.

Am I getting anything wrong? Send any questions or comments you have to podcasttheride at gmail.com. Yeah. And everybody individually at Fat Carlson on Twitter, at Jason Sheridan on Twitter. Yeah.

At Scott Garner on Twitter. Mike Mitchell, anything to plug? At B-Day Boys Mitch on Twitter, I guess. And then listen to Doughboys, a fellow feral podcast. That's right. A wonderful podcast. Absolutely. Yeah.

Thanks for leading the way and you know making feral what it is today we'll get we'll get some crossover coming soon I'm sure we'll get we'll get some

we'll get some Doughboys in the podcast to ride a crossover at some point hey terrific

that's why that's a nice invitation to get isn't that exciting absolutely oh my god you get to go to your house meet your beautiful cats

oh yeah that's right. Yeah, I love meeting the cats. Hey, everybody. Thanks so much for listening. We'll see you next time. Bye. See ya.

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