Produced By - Blending 3D, Movies and AI: Lessons from Daily Content Creation | #109: Nati Zaretsky
Episode Date: July 14, 2025Nati Zaretsky is a 3D artist at ARJEANNIE and one of the most recognisable creative voices on LinkedIn, known for his daily posts about movies, animation, 3D and AI. His journey started with a childho...od fascination for animated films and evolved into a career that blends artistic expression with cutting-edge tools. Driven by a belief that storytelling and technology go hand in hand, Nati has carved out a unique space where creativity, education and entertainment meet.Listen to this episode for an inside look at the world of 3D art and film through the eyes of a true enthusiast. We talk about how Nati found his voice on LinkedIn, built a recognisable presence in the creative niche, and what it takes to turn visual storytelling into daily content. Expect a rich conversation about animation, personal growth and the craft behind the screen.Connect with Nati:https://www.linkedin.com/in/nati-zaretsky/https://www.instagram.com/natizaretzky/https://natizaretsky.substack.com/https://www.natizaretsky.com/Timestamps:00:00 – AI tools changing 3D01:00 – Intro to Nati’s work02:03 – Early love for animation02:52 – Picking a 3D path04:10 – Learning: school vs self-taught07:55 – Blender’s rise in the industry10:07 – Pixar, sequels, and originals11:53 – Why original films struggle13:17 – Disney vs Pixar favourites15:31 – Thoughts on other studios20:43 – Landing a 3D job via LinkedIn22:09 – VFX and animation in Israel23:14 – Growing on LinkedIn25:33 – Building AR at work27:42 – Balancing content and projects29:52 – Favourite AI tools for 3D35:00 – Tips for LinkedIn growth37:18 – Top film directors40:06 – Watching movies as a creator42:45 – Hobbies and book picks44:37 – Where to find Nati45:12 – Final thoughts on creative branding Connect with Tomas:X: https://x.com/TomasLouckyStan: https://stan.store/TommenLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomasloucky/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisistommen/Unproduced:Newsletter: https://unproduced.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@unproducednotesSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033Ddo8ibDlLYoaP7FFLIWMore:Links: https://linktr.ee/produced_byNewsletter: https://producednewsletter.substack.com/The Podcast Club: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/25420030/Tools & gear that support the show:Metricool: https://f.mtr.cool/HRJBZKRiverside: https://riverside.sjv.io/vDnDodFavikon: https://www.favikon.com?fpr=tommenRa Optics: https://ra-optics.myshopify.com/discount/TOMMEN?rfsn=8803777.591d19JamX: https://jamx.ai/podcasters-offer?ref_id=e02d48af-ef66-4e76-b804-c2e8d282a8bfSome links are affiliate links, which means I may earn a small commission at no extra cost to you. If you find them useful, using these links helps keep the podcast running. Thank you! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Here's the thing, there are tons of new tools every week.
Every single week, I will say that the best thing we can do is to learn this tools.
Some of them are very scary.
I mean, the new Google stuff and there's some text tool, 3D stuff.
Pretty great. I posted about you recently.
But at the end of the day, that someone say, it's not the AI who is going to, or will replace you, but the person who knows AI.
So I'm doing the best I can by learning this tool.
That's the best I can do.
I think it was two years ago.
someone sent me a link of an AI that's text to 3D.
So like, that's it?
No, you have no job.
I was like, did you see the quality of this 3D models?
Not good.
But now there is a great AI.
So I was very impressed with their details, with the textures.
But still, there are tons of work to do here.
I'm taking a 3D model.
That's not it.
I'm imported to Glendor and then it's tons of work.
It doesn't end on all.
Let's generate a model. Bye-bye. No one.
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Hello, Nati. Thank you for Jaynev's today. And welcome to the show.
Thanks.
So, Neti, for those who don't know you, can you please introduce yourself?
I'm Nati. Nati is a Retsky and I'm a 3D artist right now.
at a startup company about the augmented reality.
And at the same time, I'm right on LinkedIn about movies, 3D, and AI.
Also, AI related stuff to movies and 3D user.
But I'm creating content about movies and 3D, which is pretty well, on air link.
It's a shame because it's such an exciting topic.
So I wish there were more people writing about it.
Yeah.
And then let's talk about when you are young.
younger.
Were you always interested, like in movies, TV series, and did you want to work in this industry?
Oh, let's say, exactly this, that when I was four, yeah, when I was four, my uncle brought me from the
blockbuster, from the DVD library.
They brought me Bag Life.
I bet you know this movie.
Pixar movie.
Oh, from Pixar.
Yeah.
So this was, I think, the first 3D animation movie I saw.
And I can't recall if I saw it before or after the Lion King.
because, but this was the first 3D that I remember.
And I was like, oh my God, I was hooked.
And I was, this is what I want to do in my life.
That's it.
When I was forwarded.
Yeah.
And it stuck since then.
Yep.
But did you know what kind of role would you want to do in movies?
Because it could be directing, producing, but did you know that you want to?
I didn't know exactly.
And I still, even today, there are tons of stuff I want to do.
I mean, I know that.
want to be in the 3D stuff, 3D animation.
And when I grew up and started to, I actually learned that stuff because I went to,
I went to professional studies of animation and 3D, I was like, okay, there are tons of fields.
There is animation, there is modeling stuff.
There is creating characters and all that stuff.
So I was like, okay, I narrowed some stuff I love.
For example, if you see my 3D posts, I'm more about creating more 3D models of stuff,
environments, like in realistic stuff,
and this is what I like way more
than animating characters
or creating characters. It's very...
I see a ton of companies, as I said, we need
a free-d guy and you need to do
everything. I'm like, but...
Yeah, I can imagine.
But then since it's been, since
you were four years old,
usually like when people grow up,
maybe your ambitions
change or you want to pursue something different.
So does it mean that you've
always been focused?
I don't think the initiative changed.
I was always,
this is what I need to do.
Yeah.
So did you then start, like, studying,
or did you go to school and to university that was focused on this?
Yeah, I went to when I was, uh, 20, what, 22, I think.
I already had tons of knowledge when it comes to the movies.
I mean, general about movies.
I mean, I know I'm studying the movie industry for over a decade.
I'm talking about I have a newsletter when I write about it.
I know if a studio announced a film, I can tell you years in advance if it's going to be good or bad.
And usually I'm right because I know what's supposed to do.
Not about showing up.
I'm never showing up, but about I'm studying it.
I'm like, man, you should do it better.
You should do it better.
Maybe.
And lots of times I'm actually right.
And I'm like, man.
Yeah.
I'm sure there is some insider knowledge.
I mean, tons of people actually ask me if I'm working at the movie industry
or how many degrees you have in movies because you see my content.
I don't know.
So, yeah, I went to some kind of private, I don't know how to call it in English,
some kind of college, but it's not a college from the movies.
Like in college, you know, you went a few times per week in the evening to learn something
of animation and 3D.
way I went there. Yeah. And I can imagine that it was different back then when you were studying
and it's different now. But when you wanted to pursue such education, how many options did you
have? Like, for example, was it already developed that you could choose where or how you want to
study? Or was it still? Yeah, I had some places. But my dad is working on computers too. And so he works
in a company that they also had the college.
So he told me you should be here.
So I'm okay.
Yeah.
And looking back, it was probably helpful,
but would you say that it was necessary to study this?
Or would it be enough to do self-education,
for example, on YouTube these days?
Okay.
This is interesting.
I think it did because I learned so much.
Because you learn more stuff than just 3D.
I learned Photoshop, Premiere,
after effect, tons of other stuff
and really have to work with it.
But since you know,
we know that the love of my life is Blender,
which is the best tool ever.
It's a fantastic tool and it's free.
So I learned it all by myself
after I finished,
because in my studies we learned
3D Max and also Maya we learn.
So both of these software,
they are very expensive.
They are in the industry.
Pixar, Disney are far as I know,
they're using some of them,
but they are very
expensive and everyone around me online talked about Blender and I need to run Blender.
And then COVID happened so I had tons of free time.
So I like, okay, let's start Blender all there.
So I took some YouTube channels and sometimes I recommend him.
I recommend it on my LinkedIn.
And I just started to learn it, but it was easy for me because I already had tons of knowledge
on 3D because I learned.
So I think I don't know if it's a must, but it's very helpful for the basics.
And would you say, obviously it's probably hard to say, but is it difficult to learn it or is there like an estimated time scale or how long it will take to, I don't know, like, at least basis?
I think it's different from each person.
Yeah.
And obviously if you've got any basics from other software from before, it definitely helps.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
And out of curiosity, is it, I know it's a free software.
But is it also being used like in the industry or is it more for freelancers or hobbies?
Yeah, here's a thing.
There was a movie, was animation movie animated flow about a cat in the apocalypse and yeah, something like that.
That's like Noah's arc with cat with a cat.
Isn't it recent?
Yeah, recently.
And didn't it actually win a big award?
Exactly.
It won the Oscar for Best Animation Feeder.
It was made entirely on Blender.
Oh my God.
God, I remember.
Yeah, I'm...
Oh, my God, literally.
So...
I might be mistaken, but I think it's like from a Baltic country, isn't it?
Like, Estonian or...
I can't recall, but I know that, but I heard, I don't know how true it is,
that the director made it on his laptop.
And I don't be sure, but I know Blender, so maybe it makes sense.
But this is a fantastic achievement for...
And people like me was like, oh, you see, Blender is...
And it seems to me that tons of companies are starting to push into world.
blender, which is best.
And out of Christy, have you seen the film?
I actually haven't seen it yet.
Yeah, I know, because here's the thing.
They didn't do a press screen here in Israel, and when I wanted to go, I don't have to
go to movies alone.
So, most of my friends, I'm like, oh, it's animation.
I don't want to go.
A ton of them, so I want to, oh, I hope, I will see it soon, I hope, but I haven't seen
it.
Yeah, okay, okay.
I was just quickly having a look, where is it?
actually from it's from year
2004 and it's a
Latvian, French and Belgium
I was so I was impressed and shocked at the same
time when it won the Oscar because I was like
I actually was very much
toward the wild robot which was a masterpiece
if you have anything like I actually I missed the press screening
so I went the week after and I'm like
man this is a massive and I really hope
it will this will win but I'm glad that
a blended one. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, it's from DreamWorks animation. That's pretty cool. And as you've
been growing up and you like the Pixar film when you were younger, did you maybe like have a dream
to work for Pixar one day or just like the film? I still and I will. Oh. I still and I win. I
I like the mindset
And I hope that it happens, of course
Look, one of the
The moment that defying my childhood was to watch
Woody waking up on the bed
For the first time. I was like, oh
I was very, I'm still obsessed with
Toy Story. I had a Buzz Light, I remember when
when I was nine, I think, so my great
parents, they bought me
for my birthday, Buzz Light here and I still
I remember. I mean, Toy Story
Story is a classy. I agree.
I grew up with that and I loved it.
But out of Kirsteo, do you think that they should stop making sequels or do you think it's a good idea and they continue?
Oh, look, I love Pixar, but I think they should focus on more original stuff than sequels.
Because some movies, do know what?
I'm actually very much waiting.
They're making an incredible screen right now because the first Incredibles is one of my favorite Pixar movies and also one of my favorite superheroes movies.
It's the best fantastic full movie, actually, because it's basically fantastic.
4. So the sequel was also pretty great and I actually really want to see a third one and they're making a third one, but I love when they had this time, this special time when they had tons of masterpieces. Original, Wally, Rataturi, Up, Monsters, Inc. And actually my favorite pixel movie in the last 15 years is Coco.
Oh, Coco, yeah, yeah. It was beautiful.
Yeah, and they actually are now that they're making a sequel to this one and I was like, I don't know why.
Yeah, I know.
Then again, the inside art too was amazing.
What's incredible inside art too.
I guess that showed them that they should do secrets because of box office.
That's the thing.
When it comes to the Basta piece, I always say that even if I don't like this movie,
I wanted to.
Because most sequels are starting,
the sequels are doing way better.
And the studio stay, so let's only focus on sequels.
So it's a bubble.
There was a movie Elemento.
Yes.
movie and this movie was one of the craziest Bops and Fiss performance in the last 20 years
I think because when it opened it opened the lowest Pixar movie since the first toy story story
I think 40 million worldwide bad and everyone labeled this one as a flaw but the world of mouse
was phenomenal and it didn't stop it stayed and stayed and eventually it was nearly 500 million
dollars and everyone and I haven't seen a rebound like this for years and they have a new movie
coming soon, Elio and I actually I haven't watched most of the traders because I want to be so quiet
but even if I'm not going to like it I think I will but I still hope it will make kinds of
because I will want to get more original movies. I agree but at the same time I understand
that it's a risk when it comes to money and to business studios. So combine, do both but here's the
most people say,
a ton of people say
give us original movies
but when there's
an original movie
no one is coming to watch
it's sure people
go more to cinemas
supported
that's a thing
that's a thing
it's annoying
but I will say
that Disney
and Disney animation
doing
in the last decade
it's like
Pixar
and Disney
became so
good especially Disney
they had
a ton of
Brave
no Brave is Pixar
is Pixar
and it's very
is actually a fantastic movie
and it's so underrated because people
hate this movie. The thing is that this movie
doesn't feel like a picture, it's like a
Disney movie. So I say for everyone
that if this movie was a Disney movie
everyone would have called it a masterpiece
because it's the same vein
as Frozen, Tangalor, but
people expected it to be more
sophisticated movie like
Wally I think and there wasn't inside Alka.
I agree because obviously there are
high expectations when it comes to
In 2012, we had the same year, we had Wackettwold from Disney, Dway from Pixar, and to this day, people think it should be the opposite.
Drave is the Disney one, Rakelyclouse is the Pixar one.
And I think it's right, but I love Brace so much.
It's such a fantastic movie about a mother-and-daughter relationship and we'll never get in it.
I actually really enjoyed Rakeet-Routh, just as you mentioned it.
No, Wackett-Raw is amazing.
But here's the thing.
I haven't watched the traders when the grave was released,
but I know that people, that the traders are very misleading,
that they promise to people like an epic adventure with your huge scope
and people, and they hide everything.
And then people got like, Raza Bear with a mother.
And I love this movie, but I can see why people get over.
And so I, some few years ago, I watched the traders.
I'm like, oh, okay, I get it.
Because it looks like a mysterious adventure movie.
And the movie is not.
It's very small, strange drama.
I love it because it's very unique.
It's not a traditional adventure movie.
It's a very small movie and I love it.
But I can see why some people will...
It will bother them.
Yeah, yeah.
And what do you think about other studios,
such as DreamWorks, Illumination, or some other ones?
Are you a fan of any of those?
Oh, I love that.
First of all, I think DreamWorks,
I love them because they made Shrek.
I love Shrek.
Oh my God, I'm the same.
I love it as well.
I grew up with that film.
I think was awesome.
And Confu Panda, and also, I always say that one of the greatest sequels of all time is, of course, Shrek too, is a masterpiece.
I need a hero.
The cover is amazing.
But Confu Panda, the second one, is a fantastic and dark sequel.
Because I watched it as a kid, it was amazing, but as an adult,
At the final battle, I recently watched in the movie.
I was like, oh my God, because at the final battle, do remember the movies?
There are a ton of wolf with the...
When it comes to Kung Fu Panda, I don't remember that, well, to be honest.
So the Panda and Infanda are fighting the wolves.
So the main wolves, the commanders are going to the pickup,
and he told him, we can't shooting them,
because we can't shoot him the Panda and Friends,
because then you will kill our own people.
And the peacock just taking a knife and...
And slaughter him.
And as a kid, I was like, okay, as in a lot, I was like,
this is very dark for kids.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think that's what makes, like, for example, animation films beautiful,
because as a kid, I don't want to say that you enjoy dark film,
but as a kid, you enjoyed the film, but as adult,
you see, like, a deeper meaning or something kind of message behind it.
No, I think that most Disney and Pixar movies from Lampel are,
they are movies for adults.
that kids can also watch
because when I'm going to watch
these movies now, I'm like,
why did I watch this as a kid?
I mean, the Lion King is pretty dark
and the other than that I said,
man, my parents didn't watch it?
Why?
Yeah.
Yeah, it is true.
And then there also,
I'm sure that you are aware of it,
like obviously Chinese market
when it comes to movies.
And I've seen that the best
performing film, like the animation,
If I'm not mistaken, it's actually Chinese, right?
Yeah, this is crazy. And I never heard about it, and I never heard about it until you started to
quack the Babbsafist. Yeah, me too, because I was also surprised that it's been doing that well.
I haven't seen it, but wanted to ask you if you've seen it or what do you think, or if you follow.
I haven't, no, I haven't. But I'm very curious to see it. You asked me about DreamWorks too,
because I would say that DreamWorks also made Madagascar and I love it.
I recently wrote about it on LinkedIn and on my Zoom, my new data, that I believe that
Madagastar 4 is inevitable.
I think they're going to do it.
Illumination are amazing because they crack the code.
For most Disney movies, the budget is between 150 to 200 million.
Therefore, the movie needs to make tons of money to break even.
Illumination, they always keep the movies around 80 to 100 million.
Despicable Myth franchise, each movie, each movie, excluding the first one,
Even the Minions, every movie made grossed over 900 million.
This is insane.
I agree.
It's crazy.
I saw it as well that they got quite a low budget compared to other films,
but the amount of money they make in Box Office, it's crazy.
Not to take the merchandise into account already.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like all the, I don't know, culture or hype around minions,
because when it goes up, you can see literally everywhere with millions.
but man
Sony is also amazing
they did
SpiderVus
and I love
these movies
yeah
yeah
when I saw the first
one
the type of
animation
oh my god
so
it was
I was in a shock
and I got invited
two
two years ago
to the second
one
I was a spider
worse
I remember
watching it
in cinemas
in the first movie
I was like
this is not
a movie
this is art
I came back
home
like
what did I
saw
and then I were
like
man, I can't wait to the next one, but they're delayed and delayed.
And as of now, it's supposed to come in summer 2020 and 7.
Oh, wow.
But at the same time, I can imagine there are high expectations.
And I also read afterwards that the culture or way that they were working on the film wasn't the best.
I don't know if you read about it, but the artist.
I heard about it too, and it makes me very sad.
I had about it, so it's basically very sad.
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Yeah, yeah, me too.
And coming back to your career, Natif, I can imagine that it's quite challenging, like to break you.
into the industry because I think it's quite competitive.
So what was your experience like or how did you basically get into the industry or how did you start after your education?
Let's just say that I was, when you were looking for your first job without experience, this is a worst because you need an experience.
So I actually was looking for a job as a 3D artist for, I think 18 months.
But.
Is the reality?
Here the thing, this is how I started on LinkedIn because then I was like, okay.
Okay, people told me try LinkedIn.
And I entered LinkedIn and I were like, okay, this is about showing myself and talking to people.
So that's exactly what I did.
And I started to talk to people all the time, ask advice, and connecting with other end posts.
I had tons of stuff to post.
So I posted all the time stuff.
And then afterwards, there was a guy I knew from LinkedIn.
And we talked a few times and he tried to talk me.
And then he told me, man, I love your free-d stuff.
And there's an opening in a startup company.
and I know the people work there.
So I will recommend
and eventually that's how I got.
Well, that's actually a good idea.
It shows the potential of LinkedIn.
So don't underestimate it.
Actually, I'm telling it to people all the time.
Because people think that it's just about posting
and that's it.
It's not.
It's about talk to people also.
Yeah.
And actually one question that I forgot to ask you
because we discuss more of LinkedIn.
What is actually like the industry
of animation or VFX in Israel
since you are from there. I don't know
like is it big, is it growing or it's not much at all?
As far as I know, it's the VFX and CGI all up more for commercials.
Okay, yeah.
And I think as of now, there are more,
when you come to the gaming industry,
there are more 2D games and 3D games.
So I know, so yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was just out of curiosity.
So then, of course,
discussing LinkedIn, our favorite platform and also where our audience and followers are.
Is it actually the reason why you started on LinkedIn, what you just mentioned before,
or have you been already on LinkedIn before for some other reason?
No, I was like, okay, I tried, when I was open to work, I was, I tried to see,
people have a man about it.
I was like, okay, see, and then we're like, okay, it's when people here are way more nice
than other platforms.
And it's nice here.
And then I stayed here.
That's the thing.
That's the thing.
Most people, they get in a job and bye, bye, Lingney.
I did the opposite.
I was like, now I have my confidence because I haven't got a job.
So let's post most.
Let's post about movies.
That's how it's how.
And can you remind how long ago was it since you started?
I think it was five years ago.
Yeah.
Five years ago.
Yeah, around five years ago, yeah.
Yeah, because often people don't see results immediately.
So I think you are a great example that you've been.
showing up for some time
which obviously pays off with the
following that you got
yeah I will say that now it's still
at LinkedIn I heard it for tons of people
from a ton of people at LinkedIn
is very much preferred to push the small
creators with less than 10
3 followers that's why I see
people with a thousand
with a dozen thousand
followers I mean they have nice engagement
and then I see someone with
less than 10K with
oh my God this is insane how and so I heard
So I heard it, I heard, I don't know how credible it is, but I think it's, I think it is something that LinkedIn is pushing for the small creators of under 10K parallel.
But who knows for how long?
There is always something that LinkedIn pushes.
No one knows.
Yeah, no one knows.
And then changes.
Then with your journey, have you always been consistent in showing up or did you also take breaks or like wanting to give up or actually given up for some talk?
I'm not, no, no, I look, up until I think two or three years ago, I posted only twice or three times per week.
Now I'm posting almost every day.
It's a lot of content.
Oh, yeah, that's tough.
I mean, but if you look into my canva, you will see a ton of content, way never.
It's repurposing content from those years ago when no one remembers.
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing.
Everyone should do it, but the debate.
about we update it, make it with, you know, design and all that stuff.
I actually think that your niche or your area, like what you focus on, is really smart
because they are always going to be new films, new stuff to discuss, maybe new tools, new
updates.
So there's always going to be exciting.
That's just saying that there are tons of people.
Yeah, a ton of people tell me that they're going to watch a movie only if I recommend them.
I hope people told me that.
You know how much power you've got now
It's crazy
Yeah, it's amazing
And can you introduce us more about the work
That you do now
Because you said that you work in
AI or virtual reality
If I'm not mistaken
I'm working
I'm working on a startup company
And we are making an augmented
AI stuff
Augmented Reality manuals
For devices
And machines
Not that stuff
Most people don't get it
When I say
Augmented Reality
They think it's a virtual
the VR, but I say no, think about Pokemon Go, that's it.
That sounds cool.
And what kind of device is that?
There's nothing specific.
Like, for example, you have a coffee machine and you don't know how to use it, so we can
show you how the phone and the augmented reality and all that stuff.
Okay.
That's interesting.
So I'm doing the 3D stuff, the animation stuff and all.
Are there any cool projects that you are proud of it and that you work?
and would be willing to tell us more about.
I can't talk about it as well.
Okay, no problem.
What is actually the software that you use?
Because before we discussed Blender,
is it what you use at work as well or not?
Yeah, yeah.
Blamper is my door too.
Okay.
Because I thought maybe like the company tells you,
you need to use this one.
You cannot use different one.
No, no, I'm using Blender most of the time.
It seems to me that lots of medium company,
those smallest companies,
they are moving toward Blender,
because it's free.
Yeah, it makes sense.
I'm not surprised.
Yeah, but it's not just me.
It's amazing.
I mean, even if you give me other stuff in other software free,
I will still go to Blender.
It's fantastic.
And I guess it's resource, right?
So people continuously update it, if I'm not mistaken.
It's open source, yeah.
I actually met a few months ago.
I met a movie director who directed some very nice guys.
So we set for a coffee and all that stuff.
And so he was impressed with what I'm doing.
on LinkedIn and go and etc.
And then I was,
and so he knows about V,
is a VFX guy.
Then I showed him some stuff I'm doing on the blender.
Like,
this is a blender.
Yeah.
So I mean,
people are in shock to see how powerful is.
Yeah.
I was about to ask you before
if you've got time,
you know,
because you work,
you spend time on LinkedIn.
So even if you've got time in your free time
to work on your personal stuff
or explore VFX outside of work.
Okay, so here's the thing.
I'm trying to always work on some new project for myself to always to learn more.
So that's why I'm posting in terms of 3D stuff.
All the 3D stuff I'm posting, it's not work-related.
But two years ago, no, until 18, 18 months ago, I posted every week, almost every week, a new 3D art of mine.
But that was when I was posted only 3D.
Now I'm posting 3D guides, AI guide, movie related stuff, so I can't do it with 3D every week.
So I'm trying to do every month, every two, three weeks.
It's tough.
Yeah, I can imagine.
And of course, you want to practice like in your free time to keep improving your skills as well.
Yeah.
So what is the, let's say, seen or like the people on LinkedIn that are in the similar niche as you are?
if there are any people like that, like you post consistently and grow following,
talking about the stuff that you do, if there are any other people.
Mostly, I think, no, there are people about, no, there are people about cinematic stuff,
but with AI.
There is Rolf Lane, I bet you know this guy.
Oh, I spoke with him.
Rory's, he's great master of mid-jourly.
I spoke to him.
I think it was almost two years ago, I spoke to, if we had a call.
years ago, it was very long.
We did a podcast episode together.
But I would say that my knowledge in 3D and movies really helps you with the AI.
I mean, I talked to someone about me Journey and I showed him.
So he told me I want to see a prompt of you.
I saw him, what?
What are all these elements?
I'm adding cameras, lenses, cinematography, atmosphere, all that stuff.
So because I know what to add.
Yeah.
And as you are talking about AI, what's your take on AI and impact on the industry, like VFX industry?
Because...
I knew that this question will come up, because this question is coming up with every single person I'm talking.
Look, I don't know.
I would say, I don't know.
Little disclaimer, it's because I briefly worked in VFX industry as well, so I know what it takes to create such assets.
and got friends that I worked with
and they look at it
so generally curious.
Here's the thing.
There are tons of new tools
every week,
every single week,
and I don't know what to say,
but I will say that
the best thing we can do
is to learn this tools.
That's the thing.
Some of them are very scary.
I mean, the new Google stuff
and there's some text tool
3D stuff,
which is pretty great
I posted about you recently.
But at the end of the day
that someone say,
it's not the AI
who is going to all,
will replace you, but the person who knows AI.
So I'm doing the best I can by learning this tool.
That's the best I can do.
I think this is the right approach.
That's, I think that's the only approach.
You find out sooner or later.
I think it was two years ago, something.
Way more than a year, that's for sure.
Someone sent me a link of an AI that text to 3D.
So like, that's it?
No, you have no job.
I was like, did you see the quality of this 3D models?
Not good.
But now there is a great AI, a triple AI.
So I was very impressed with the detail, with the textures.
I was like, oh my God.
But still, there are tons of work to do here.
I'm taking the 3D model.
That's not it.
I'm imported to blender and then it's tons of work.
It doesn't end.
Oh, let's generate a model.
Bye-bye.
Of course.
Yeah.
I think that's sometimes what people think.
But I often see like a video, whether it's from you or someone else who shares like a brief clips of the stuff that AI did.
And I'm impressed as well that I would never expect that can be so advanced.
And if I compare it to what I've seen before, I'm curious to see what it looks like in the future.
This is crazy.
I mean, I remember a few weeks ago, I asked for me,
a simple but realistic shot of a cup of coffee on a table.
I added tons of realistic stuff, like depths of field, tons of cameras,
and the result was very amazing, very realistic.
So then I took the image and I entered it, I imported it.
I don't remember it was one way or cleaned, one of the two.
I can't recall which one of them, and I asked,
I asked for the camera to zoom in a little
and to pan to the
I think to the right
and to add some over the car
not smoke, fog
You know, when it's hot
I just forgot the name
Yeah, yeah, Steve, yeah, steam
Yeah, steam
And the result was like
Oh my God, it was, it's so good
And scary
Yeah
I don't know if you see
I posted a thing last week
This is people
Are people who saw it
When not
I asked for my journey
an image of a bird flying on the sky, flying in the sky.
But I wanted to be very cinematic, so I added tons of stuff.
So it was exactly what I wanted.
It was a bird.
Actually, it was an eagle, but still, above the clouds, drone shot.
So you can see it kind of from above.
And you can see the clouds under it and the sea and some continent way under.
And I also asked it to be golden hour, to make it golden stuff.
I thought the image was amazing.
Then I took it and entered it to runway and I asked it to animate it and it was amazing.
I was like, oh my God, it's crazy.
Yeah.
What will be then some of your favorite tools?
I'm using my journey a lot and I love also Rwainway and cling.
My journey and runway are usually my go-to when it comes to images and videos.
And triple AI I am using a lot for a 3D if I wanted to generate models.
And I'm using perplexity a lot.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And when it comes to content creation,
such as helping you to write LinkedIn posts, for example,
or creating content, any other favorite tools?
Most of the posts I'm writing myself.
Sometimes I need some ideas or some information,
so I'm going to perplexity and ask for it.
But that's it.
Because a lot of people told me that they feel that my post are for me
and not for my eyes.
So there are some of the posts where you can see just a,
of course
and I'm sure
that Neti you get
lots of messages asking you
for some advice to grow on LinkedIn
I'm sure that's the question that many people
ask you
so what's your answer
I'm having tons of webinars
all that
I will say that
only two stuff you need to do on LinkedIn
one is posting
in consistency
and I don't mean you need to post every day
no but consistency
even if it's
twice a week, but make it twice a week.
If it's Monday and Wednesday,
make it every week, Monday and Wednesday.
Don't change.
And talk to people, but you can't do one of these.
Because people, there are a ton of people.
I mean, people think that people don't know
how to talk to people.
Because LinkedIn is about,
someone told me once that if in Facebook
you're talking to someone, you are a widow.
But if you're living on LinkedIn,
you are not talking to someone, then you're weirdo.
Yeah, I like it.
It's like you know.
But I will say this, that you need to have
your credibility.
You need to have your credibility.
That's why I'm talking.
For example, imagine someone
sending you a message on LinkedIn
and he wants to talk to you,
chat with you or hear on LinkedIn
or with coffee chat, whatever.
So you enter his forefair and you see
he's doing nothing.
The banner is not good.
Barely an activity.
Not in an apology,
you will see what is going on.
But if you see someone
credibility with stress,
you will want to talk to him.
That's a good point.
Or just try to place yourself in their shoes because it's, for example, if I signed up for LinkedIn,
I haven't been there just for, I don't know, a few days, not posted, not complete profile.
And I'm going to text someone who's got, for example, like you 30K followers.
What are the possibilities that you're going to get back to me?
Yes, you might get back to me, but you might also think that I'm some kind of scan or something.
Look, I'm getting a ton of connection with every day.
So as long as the image profile is professional enough and the banner is solid,
I'm okay.
I'm okay.
Because people don't get it how much.
I can,
sometimes I see people that they have amazing and amazing image profile,
but the banner is bad.
The banner is important.
Sometimes even more than the image profile.
Or sometimes even with grammatical mistakes.
Of course, it's not a big deal.
We all do mistakes.
But when you've got AI to help you to make it correct.
do some effort. What are net is some of your favorite creators on LinkedIn or some people that you follow?
Oh man, there are too much. I can't name them. I'm serious. There are so many amazing creators here.
I don't want to I really I'm afraid to say because then tons of others say why didn't it's very it's a tricky question.
It's like asking me what is my favorite movie. It's hard to choose. Yeah, no, I know.
And if okay, of course I was going to ask about your favorite movie.
because it's like a must question.
But if you don't want this one,
do you have, for example, a favorite director?
Well, man, this is tricky because I have some favorite director.
I can't because I have directors that I love
and all of them are my favorites.
I can too.
Christopher Nolan, for example, because it's Christopher Nolan.
I mean, he's doing the Odyssey next year and I can't wait for it.
It's like Christopher Nolan is making a fantasy epic.
They build an entire city, I think.
It's like the iconic remove of shut up and take my money.
Yeah.
And if you've seen the cast,
the people who are going to be in the film,
it's crazy as well.
Yeah.
Tom Holland,
Charlie's Terran,
Anna Atwe, Robert Pattis of Zendaya.
I mean, how?
I mean, it's a little weird to me to see Nolan taking,
usually take,
he adds less.
well-known actors, but I don't care.
Yeah, it's going to be impressive.
I would say also, Deni Villeneuve, he did Dune.
It's amazing.
David Yitz, I love David Yvette, is a guy who directed the last four Harry Potter movies.
He's amazing.
Alfonso de Lerone also directed the third Harry Potter movie and Gravity.
Yeah.
This is the kind of director that you say the name and I'm there.
This is how we kind of director.
Also, Matt Reeves
He directed
the second and third band of the apes
And the new Batman, which was phenomenal
West Ball
West Ball is very underrated.
He directed the entire Mesrana trilogy,
which was excellent.
It also the newest planet of the apes
And he's now making the live-action
Zelda movie.
Oh, wow.
I'm curious about that one.
But I know that the movie's adaptations
of games have been quite popular.
quite popular, looking, for example, on Minecraft recently, so I'm not surprised.
They're becoming also popular and great.
The Mario movie was great.
The Sonic movies are excellent, I think.
Yeah, I think there is a resurgence of this kind of thing.
Oh, and Stephen Spielberg, of course.
We're getting next to you an original sci-fi movie from Steven Spielben.
Yeah, that's a thing because I can't choose my film.
Yeah.
No, I was about to ask you, when you go watch a film,
if you are able to enjoy it, like, let's say a regular person,
or if you keep thinking about how did they do this?
I can't. I can't because, I mean, usually I can take someone with me to a fresh screening.
If the others don't know, so I'm getting fans to my linear activity.
I'm getting invitations for movies press screenings all the time, which is fun.
Getting to see the movie with everyone else in free.
It's amazing.
Sometimes there's also food, pizza is all that.
Yeah.
So I tell to people that if you come with me, you will hear me scream.
Because sometimes I'm like, gosh, she's the color, see the cinematography, see the liking, see this shot.
And the people next to me, if the person next to me, it doesn't understand movies either, that's the hell.
What is he talking about?
But I can imagine you need to enjoy it.
Yeah, when I saw Dune, Part 2 on the big screen.
on iMacs on the as a press win i was like
kill me now this is
oh my god every time on oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god
yeah i actually went to watch it in imax in london and so and it was or i don't
know actually it was dune maybe it was openheimer but it was amazing experience iwax
what are some upcoming movies which are very excited about if they are not too many
fantastic fall no there are some fantastic fall because mainly because the traders
great and I love the director. It's my
checkman. He did Wondervision
which was excellent and he also
did Monarch from
Apple. If you haven't seen Monarch in Apple TV
which is a spin monarch
legacy of the monster I think they call it.
It's from it like Godzilla
Fantastic. Godzilla. Oh yeah yeah yeah.
Exactly. It's set between Godzilla
the first Godzilla and
I think Kong's
I can't think about it's a fantastic stuff.
Kong School Island. I
remember yeah yeah so I'm I'm working for this one I'm also very much waiting for
yeah my watch the weekend two where weekend from Luda because the first one was amazing
actually I were more excited for the movies next year this year yeah well there is so much
always cool stuff so no surprise and that is just as we will be approaching the
end of the recording outside of films and what we just
discussed, do you have any other hobbies like what you like doing in your free time?
Let me see you, I show you. I'm playing VR.
Oh wow. Yeah, I'm playing a lot. And yeah, I'm playing a lot beyond games and reading
sci-fi and fantasy books and go out with friends. I'm doing it all the time.
Yeah, but friends who loves movies usually.
Well, one of my next questions, if you read books, and if so, I know that it's going to be tough,
but if you can recommend some of your favorite ones or books that have been impactful to you?
Look, I'm rereading the Harry Potter books every year.
All that's right.
I will say that if you want a great fantasy, sophisticated, Twiliter, you should read His Duff materials.
the Golden Compass,
a.k.a.
It's a fantastic trilogy,
one of my favorite ever.
It's about multiverse
and angels, demons,
demons, polar bears.
It was released in the late 90s.
And it was adapted for a movie,
The Golden Compass,
which flopped,
and then it was re-adapted into a show for HBO.
Three seasons, one season per book,
and it was excellent.
I've been waiting for this adaptation
for over a decade.
And when it was released,
I would like, oh, my God.
Yeah.
And do you also read non-fiction books?
Very well.
Okay, I'm not interested in that.
I think you can get a ton of life lessons and inspirations from the Favdisibles.
Yeah, I mean, why not?
And as you mentioned, Harry Potter, I'm a big friend of Harry Potter as well,
because as we discussed before, I grew up with the movies.
Yeah.
Then, Neti, can you summarize where people can find you, follow you,
and basically promote anything that you create or share online.
Mainly here on LinkedIn, I have 30-3K followers, so feel free to join.
I also started a newslet a few months back on a substack about movies, of course.
A movie I really hope it will get more traction because it's movies.
And I also am available on Instagram and Facebook, but not that much.
but mainly LinkedIn and I hope I hope also a substep.
I think that I should have asked you and did not
or any final message or a piece of advice
that you would like to share.
Just find your voice.
Yeah, find your voice.
Find your whatever you have 10K followers,
150K,000.
It doesn't matter.
It's all about finding your voice.
I know I see creators who are not so many followers,
but they are created such as,
strong brand that everyone knows them and wants them.
So it's all just trying to find a unique voice.
Someone told me recently that one of the best decisions I made in the last six months
was to change my, to re-brand myself.
I made, I mean, if you see, you can see it in my carousels and in my post and in my banner
that I have main colors of orange, yellow like that and very, very, very dark blue.
so that's what I'm doing
and people told me that they recognize
all the time this stuff
I can recognize you to see you in an instant
so that's it
I agree and I like it because it's like
automatic association
like I'm recognizing your
slidder in green all the time
yeah
my words I recognize your orange as well
so I think it's a perfect example
I think then
Neti I think we can finish
one to say a big thank you
because I've been
following you for some time, being a fan, also a big fan of movies and VFX. I think you're
doing the great job and I'm very happy that we finally made it. Of course we can do sequel anytime
in the future again. I will keep following and supporting. So thank you so much and I really enjoyed it.
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