Produced By - Blending 3D, Movies and AI: Lessons from Daily Content Creation | #109: Nati Zaretsky

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

Nati Zaretsky is a 3D artist at ARJEANNIE and one of the most recognisable creative voices on LinkedIn, known for his daily posts about movies, animation, 3D and AI. His journey started with a childho...od fascination for animated films and evolved into a career that blends artistic expression with cutting-edge tools. Driven by a belief that storytelling and technology go hand in hand, Nati has carved out a unique space where creativity, education and entertainment meet.Listen to this episode for an inside look at the world of 3D art and film through the eyes of a true enthusiast. We talk about how Nati found his voice on LinkedIn, built a recognisable presence in the creative niche, and what it takes to turn visual storytelling into daily content. Expect a rich conversation about animation, personal growth and the craft behind the screen.Connect with Nati:https://www.linkedin.com/in/nati-zaretsky/https://www.instagram.com/natizaretzky/https://natizaretsky.substack.com/https://www.natizaretsky.com/Timestamps:00:00 – AI tools changing 3D01:00 – Intro to Nati’s work02:03 – Early love for animation02:52 – Picking a 3D path04:10 – Learning: school vs self-taught07:55 – Blender’s rise in the industry10:07 – Pixar, sequels, and originals11:53 – Why original films struggle13:17 – Disney vs Pixar favourites15:31 – Thoughts on other studios20:43 – Landing a 3D job via LinkedIn22:09 – VFX and animation in Israel23:14 – Growing on LinkedIn25:33 – Building AR at work27:42 – Balancing content and projects29:52 – Favourite AI tools for 3D35:00 – Tips for LinkedIn growth37:18 – Top film directors40:06 – Watching movies as a creator42:45 – Hobbies and book picks44:37 – Where to find Nati45:12 – Final thoughts on creative branding Connect with Tomas:X: https://x.com/TomasLoucky⁠⁠⁠Stan: https://stan.store/TommenLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomasloucky/⁠⁠Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisistommen/⁠⁠Unproduced:Newsletter: https://unproduced.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@unproducednotesSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033Ddo8ibDlLYoaP7FFLIWMore:Links: https://linktr.ee/produced_by⁠⁠⁠Newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://producednewsletter.substack.com/⁠The Podcast Club: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/25420030/Tools & gear that support the show:Metricool: https://f.mtr.cool/HRJBZKRiverside: https://riverside.sjv.io/vDnDodFavikon: https://www.favikon.com?fpr=tommenRa Optics: https://ra-optics.myshopify.com/discount/TOMMEN?rfsn=8803777.591d19JamX: https://jamx.ai/podcasters-offer?ref_id=e02d48af-ef66-4e76-b804-c2e8d282a8bfSome links are affiliate links, which means I may earn a small commission at no extra cost to you. If you find them useful, using these links helps keep the podcast running. Thank you!  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's the thing, there are tons of new tools every week. Every single week, I will say that the best thing we can do is to learn this tools. Some of them are very scary. I mean, the new Google stuff and there's some text tool, 3D stuff. Pretty great. I posted about you recently. But at the end of the day, that someone say, it's not the AI who is going to, or will replace you, but the person who knows AI. So I'm doing the best I can by learning this tool. That's the best I can do.
Starting point is 00:00:26 I think it was two years ago. someone sent me a link of an AI that's text to 3D. So like, that's it? No, you have no job. I was like, did you see the quality of this 3D models? Not good. But now there is a great AI. So I was very impressed with their details, with the textures.
Starting point is 00:00:45 But still, there are tons of work to do here. I'm taking a 3D model. That's not it. I'm imported to Glendor and then it's tons of work. It doesn't end on all. Let's generate a model. Bye-bye. No one. Before we dive into today's episode, please hit that subscribe button. Your support helps us grow and inspire more people on their journeys. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Hello, Nati. Thank you for Jaynev's today. And welcome to the show. Thanks. So, Neti, for those who don't know you, can you please introduce yourself? I'm Nati. Nati is a Retsky and I'm a 3D artist right now. at a startup company about the augmented reality. And at the same time, I'm right on LinkedIn about movies, 3D, and AI. Also, AI related stuff to movies and 3D user. But I'm creating content about movies and 3D, which is pretty well, on air link.
Starting point is 00:01:47 It's a shame because it's such an exciting topic. So I wish there were more people writing about it. Yeah. And then let's talk about when you are young. younger. Were you always interested, like in movies, TV series, and did you want to work in this industry? Oh, let's say, exactly this, that when I was four, yeah, when I was four, my uncle brought me from the blockbuster, from the DVD library.
Starting point is 00:02:11 They brought me Bag Life. I bet you know this movie. Pixar movie. Oh, from Pixar. Yeah. So this was, I think, the first 3D animation movie I saw. And I can't recall if I saw it before or after the Lion King. because, but this was the first 3D that I remember.
Starting point is 00:02:31 And I was like, oh my God, I was hooked. And I was, this is what I want to do in my life. That's it. When I was forwarded. Yeah. And it stuck since then. Yep. But did you know what kind of role would you want to do in movies?
Starting point is 00:02:46 Because it could be directing, producing, but did you know that you want to? I didn't know exactly. And I still, even today, there are tons of stuff I want to do. I mean, I know that. want to be in the 3D stuff, 3D animation. And when I grew up and started to, I actually learned that stuff because I went to, I went to professional studies of animation and 3D, I was like, okay, there are tons of fields. There is animation, there is modeling stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:13 There is creating characters and all that stuff. So I was like, okay, I narrowed some stuff I love. For example, if you see my 3D posts, I'm more about creating more 3D models of stuff, environments, like in realistic stuff, and this is what I like way more than animating characters or creating characters. It's very... I see a ton of companies, as I said, we need
Starting point is 00:03:36 a free-d guy and you need to do everything. I'm like, but... Yeah, I can imagine. But then since it's been, since you were four years old, usually like when people grow up, maybe your ambitions change or you want to pursue something different.
Starting point is 00:03:52 So does it mean that you've always been focused? I don't think the initiative changed. I was always, this is what I need to do. Yeah. So did you then start, like, studying, or did you go to school and to university that was focused on this?
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah, I went to when I was, uh, 20, what, 22, I think. I already had tons of knowledge when it comes to the movies. I mean, general about movies. I mean, I know I'm studying the movie industry for over a decade. I'm talking about I have a newsletter when I write about it. I know if a studio announced a film, I can tell you years in advance if it's going to be good or bad. And usually I'm right because I know what's supposed to do. Not about showing up.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I'm never showing up, but about I'm studying it. I'm like, man, you should do it better. You should do it better. Maybe. And lots of times I'm actually right. And I'm like, man. Yeah. I'm sure there is some insider knowledge.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I mean, tons of people actually ask me if I'm working at the movie industry or how many degrees you have in movies because you see my content. I don't know. So, yeah, I went to some kind of private, I don't know how to call it in English, some kind of college, but it's not a college from the movies. Like in college, you know, you went a few times per week in the evening to learn something of animation and 3D. way I went there. Yeah. And I can imagine that it was different back then when you were studying
Starting point is 00:05:30 and it's different now. But when you wanted to pursue such education, how many options did you have? Like, for example, was it already developed that you could choose where or how you want to study? Or was it still? Yeah, I had some places. But my dad is working on computers too. And so he works in a company that they also had the college. So he told me you should be here. So I'm okay. Yeah. And looking back, it was probably helpful,
Starting point is 00:06:04 but would you say that it was necessary to study this? Or would it be enough to do self-education, for example, on YouTube these days? Okay. This is interesting. I think it did because I learned so much. Because you learn more stuff than just 3D. I learned Photoshop, Premiere,
Starting point is 00:06:22 after effect, tons of other stuff and really have to work with it. But since you know, we know that the love of my life is Blender, which is the best tool ever. It's a fantastic tool and it's free. So I learned it all by myself after I finished,
Starting point is 00:06:39 because in my studies we learned 3D Max and also Maya we learn. So both of these software, they are very expensive. They are in the industry. Pixar, Disney are far as I know, they're using some of them, but they are very
Starting point is 00:06:52 expensive and everyone around me online talked about Blender and I need to run Blender. And then COVID happened so I had tons of free time. So I like, okay, let's start Blender all there. So I took some YouTube channels and sometimes I recommend him. I recommend it on my LinkedIn. And I just started to learn it, but it was easy for me because I already had tons of knowledge on 3D because I learned. So I think I don't know if it's a must, but it's very helpful for the basics.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And would you say, obviously it's probably hard to say, but is it difficult to learn it or is there like an estimated time scale or how long it will take to, I don't know, like, at least basis? I think it's different from each person. Yeah. And obviously if you've got any basics from other software from before, it definitely helps. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And out of curiosity, is it, I know it's a free software. But is it also being used like in the industry or is it more for freelancers or hobbies?
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, here's a thing. There was a movie, was animation movie animated flow about a cat in the apocalypse and yeah, something like that. That's like Noah's arc with cat with a cat. Isn't it recent? Yeah, recently. And didn't it actually win a big award? Exactly. It won the Oscar for Best Animation Feeder.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It was made entirely on Blender. Oh my God. God, I remember. Yeah, I'm... Oh, my God, literally. So... I might be mistaken, but I think it's like from a Baltic country, isn't it? Like, Estonian or...
Starting point is 00:08:28 I can't recall, but I know that, but I heard, I don't know how true it is, that the director made it on his laptop. And I don't be sure, but I know Blender, so maybe it makes sense. But this is a fantastic achievement for... And people like me was like, oh, you see, Blender is... And it seems to me that tons of companies are starting to push into world. blender, which is best. And out of Christy, have you seen the film?
Starting point is 00:08:54 I actually haven't seen it yet. Yeah, I know, because here's the thing. They didn't do a press screen here in Israel, and when I wanted to go, I don't have to go to movies alone. So, most of my friends, I'm like, oh, it's animation. I don't want to go. A ton of them, so I want to, oh, I hope, I will see it soon, I hope, but I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah, okay, okay. I was just quickly having a look, where is it? actually from it's from year 2004 and it's a Latvian, French and Belgium I was so I was impressed and shocked at the same time when it won the Oscar because I was like I actually was very much
Starting point is 00:09:34 toward the wild robot which was a masterpiece if you have anything like I actually I missed the press screening so I went the week after and I'm like man this is a massive and I really hope it will this will win but I'm glad that a blended one. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, it's from DreamWorks animation. That's pretty cool. And as you've been growing up and you like the Pixar film when you were younger, did you maybe like have a dream to work for Pixar one day or just like the film? I still and I will. Oh. I still and I win. I
Starting point is 00:10:10 I like the mindset And I hope that it happens, of course Look, one of the The moment that defying my childhood was to watch Woody waking up on the bed For the first time. I was like, oh I was very, I'm still obsessed with Toy Story. I had a Buzz Light, I remember when
Starting point is 00:10:28 when I was nine, I think, so my great parents, they bought me for my birthday, Buzz Light here and I still I remember. I mean, Toy Story Story is a classy. I agree. I grew up with that and I loved it. But out of Kirsteo, do you think that they should stop making sequels or do you think it's a good idea and they continue? Oh, look, I love Pixar, but I think they should focus on more original stuff than sequels.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Because some movies, do know what? I'm actually very much waiting. They're making an incredible screen right now because the first Incredibles is one of my favorite Pixar movies and also one of my favorite superheroes movies. It's the best fantastic full movie, actually, because it's basically fantastic. 4. So the sequel was also pretty great and I actually really want to see a third one and they're making a third one, but I love when they had this time, this special time when they had tons of masterpieces. Original, Wally, Rataturi, Up, Monsters, Inc. And actually my favorite pixel movie in the last 15 years is Coco. Oh, Coco, yeah, yeah. It was beautiful. Yeah, and they actually are now that they're making a sequel to this one and I was like, I don't know why. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Then again, the inside art too was amazing. What's incredible inside art too. I guess that showed them that they should do secrets because of box office. That's the thing. When it comes to the Basta piece, I always say that even if I don't like this movie, I wanted to. Because most sequels are starting, the sequels are doing way better.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And the studio stay, so let's only focus on sequels. So it's a bubble. There was a movie Elemento. Yes. movie and this movie was one of the craziest Bops and Fiss performance in the last 20 years I think because when it opened it opened the lowest Pixar movie since the first toy story story I think 40 million worldwide bad and everyone labeled this one as a flaw but the world of mouse was phenomenal and it didn't stop it stayed and stayed and eventually it was nearly 500 million
Starting point is 00:12:36 dollars and everyone and I haven't seen a rebound like this for years and they have a new movie coming soon, Elio and I actually I haven't watched most of the traders because I want to be so quiet but even if I'm not going to like it I think I will but I still hope it will make kinds of because I will want to get more original movies. I agree but at the same time I understand that it's a risk when it comes to money and to business studios. So combine, do both but here's the most people say, a ton of people say give us original movies
Starting point is 00:13:09 but when there's an original movie no one is coming to watch it's sure people go more to cinemas supported that's a thing that's a thing
Starting point is 00:13:18 it's annoying but I will say that Disney and Disney animation doing in the last decade it's like Pixar
Starting point is 00:13:26 and Disney became so good especially Disney they had a ton of Brave no Brave is Pixar is Pixar
Starting point is 00:13:34 and it's very is actually a fantastic movie and it's so underrated because people hate this movie. The thing is that this movie doesn't feel like a picture, it's like a Disney movie. So I say for everyone that if this movie was a Disney movie everyone would have called it a masterpiece
Starting point is 00:13:49 because it's the same vein as Frozen, Tangalor, but people expected it to be more sophisticated movie like Wally I think and there wasn't inside Alka. I agree because obviously there are high expectations when it comes to In 2012, we had the same year, we had Wackettwold from Disney, Dway from Pixar, and to this day, people think it should be the opposite.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Drave is the Disney one, Rakelyclouse is the Pixar one. And I think it's right, but I love Brace so much. It's such a fantastic movie about a mother-and-daughter relationship and we'll never get in it. I actually really enjoyed Rakeet-Routh, just as you mentioned it. No, Wackett-Raw is amazing. But here's the thing. I haven't watched the traders when the grave was released, but I know that people, that the traders are very misleading,
Starting point is 00:14:43 that they promise to people like an epic adventure with your huge scope and people, and they hide everything. And then people got like, Raza Bear with a mother. And I love this movie, but I can see why people get over. And so I, some few years ago, I watched the traders. I'm like, oh, okay, I get it. Because it looks like a mysterious adventure movie. And the movie is not.
Starting point is 00:15:07 It's very small, strange drama. I love it because it's very unique. It's not a traditional adventure movie. It's a very small movie and I love it. But I can see why some people will... It will bother them. Yeah, yeah. And what do you think about other studios,
Starting point is 00:15:24 such as DreamWorks, Illumination, or some other ones? Are you a fan of any of those? Oh, I love that. First of all, I think DreamWorks, I love them because they made Shrek. I love Shrek. Oh my God, I'm the same. I love it as well.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I grew up with that film. I think was awesome. And Confu Panda, and also, I always say that one of the greatest sequels of all time is, of course, Shrek too, is a masterpiece. I need a hero. The cover is amazing. But Confu Panda, the second one, is a fantastic and dark sequel. Because I watched it as a kid, it was amazing, but as an adult, At the final battle, I recently watched in the movie.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I was like, oh my God, because at the final battle, do remember the movies? There are a ton of wolf with the... When it comes to Kung Fu Panda, I don't remember that, well, to be honest. So the Panda and Infanda are fighting the wolves. So the main wolves, the commanders are going to the pickup, and he told him, we can't shooting them, because we can't shoot him the Panda and Friends, because then you will kill our own people.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And the peacock just taking a knife and... And slaughter him. And as a kid, I was like, okay, as in a lot, I was like, this is very dark for kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that's what makes, like, for example, animation films beautiful, because as a kid, I don't want to say that you enjoy dark film, but as a kid, you enjoyed the film, but as adult,
Starting point is 00:16:52 you see, like, a deeper meaning or something kind of message behind it. No, I think that most Disney and Pixar movies from Lampel are, they are movies for adults. that kids can also watch because when I'm going to watch these movies now, I'm like, why did I watch this as a kid? I mean, the Lion King is pretty dark
Starting point is 00:17:12 and the other than that I said, man, my parents didn't watch it? Why? Yeah. Yeah, it is true. And then there also, I'm sure that you are aware of it, like obviously Chinese market
Starting point is 00:17:27 when it comes to movies. And I've seen that the best performing film, like the animation, If I'm not mistaken, it's actually Chinese, right? Yeah, this is crazy. And I never heard about it, and I never heard about it until you started to quack the Babbsafist. Yeah, me too, because I was also surprised that it's been doing that well. I haven't seen it, but wanted to ask you if you've seen it or what do you think, or if you follow. I haven't, no, I haven't. But I'm very curious to see it. You asked me about DreamWorks too,
Starting point is 00:17:56 because I would say that DreamWorks also made Madagascar and I love it. I recently wrote about it on LinkedIn and on my Zoom, my new data, that I believe that Madagastar 4 is inevitable. I think they're going to do it. Illumination are amazing because they crack the code. For most Disney movies, the budget is between 150 to 200 million. Therefore, the movie needs to make tons of money to break even. Illumination, they always keep the movies around 80 to 100 million.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Despicable Myth franchise, each movie, each movie, excluding the first one, Even the Minions, every movie made grossed over 900 million. This is insane. I agree. It's crazy. I saw it as well that they got quite a low budget compared to other films, but the amount of money they make in Box Office, it's crazy. Not to take the merchandise into account already.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like all the, I don't know, culture or hype around minions, because when it goes up, you can see literally everywhere with millions. but man Sony is also amazing they did SpiderVus and I love
Starting point is 00:19:08 these movies yeah yeah when I saw the first one the type of animation oh my god
Starting point is 00:19:14 so it was I was in a shock and I got invited two two years ago to the second one
Starting point is 00:19:21 I was a spider worse I remember watching it in cinemas in the first movie I was like this is not
Starting point is 00:19:27 a movie this is art I came back home like what did I saw and then I were
Starting point is 00:19:33 like man, I can't wait to the next one, but they're delayed and delayed. And as of now, it's supposed to come in summer 2020 and 7. Oh, wow. But at the same time, I can imagine there are high expectations. And I also read afterwards that the culture or way that they were working on the film wasn't the best. I don't know if you read about it, but the artist. I heard about it too, and it makes me very sad.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I had about it, so it's basically very sad. Are you struggling to stay consistent on LinkedIn? Fanpost helps you create high quality posts in minutes, so you can write faster, show up more, and stress way less. Built by creators for creators is the easiest way to grow your presents without burning out. Try it free at fanpost.com. Yeah, yeah, me too. And coming back to your career, Natif, I can imagine that it's quite challenging, like to break you. into the industry because I think it's quite competitive.
Starting point is 00:20:37 So what was your experience like or how did you basically get into the industry or how did you start after your education? Let's just say that I was, when you were looking for your first job without experience, this is a worst because you need an experience. So I actually was looking for a job as a 3D artist for, I think 18 months. But. Is the reality? Here the thing, this is how I started on LinkedIn because then I was like, okay. Okay, people told me try LinkedIn. And I entered LinkedIn and I were like, okay, this is about showing myself and talking to people.
Starting point is 00:21:11 So that's exactly what I did. And I started to talk to people all the time, ask advice, and connecting with other end posts. I had tons of stuff to post. So I posted all the time stuff. And then afterwards, there was a guy I knew from LinkedIn. And we talked a few times and he tried to talk me. And then he told me, man, I love your free-d stuff. And there's an opening in a startup company.
Starting point is 00:21:32 and I know the people work there. So I will recommend and eventually that's how I got. Well, that's actually a good idea. It shows the potential of LinkedIn. So don't underestimate it. Actually, I'm telling it to people all the time. Because people think that it's just about posting
Starting point is 00:21:51 and that's it. It's not. It's about talk to people also. Yeah. And actually one question that I forgot to ask you because we discuss more of LinkedIn. What is actually like the industry of animation or VFX in Israel
Starting point is 00:22:06 since you are from there. I don't know like is it big, is it growing or it's not much at all? As far as I know, it's the VFX and CGI all up more for commercials. Okay, yeah. And I think as of now, there are more, when you come to the gaming industry, there are more 2D games and 3D games. So I know, so yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was just out of curiosity. So then, of course, discussing LinkedIn, our favorite platform and also where our audience and followers are. Is it actually the reason why you started on LinkedIn, what you just mentioned before, or have you been already on LinkedIn before for some other reason? No, I was like, okay, I tried, when I was open to work, I was, I tried to see, people have a man about it. I was like, okay, see, and then we're like, okay, it's when people here are way more nice
Starting point is 00:22:56 than other platforms. And it's nice here. And then I stayed here. That's the thing. That's the thing. Most people, they get in a job and bye, bye, Lingney. I did the opposite. I was like, now I have my confidence because I haven't got a job.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So let's post most. Let's post about movies. That's how it's how. And can you remind how long ago was it since you started? I think it was five years ago. Yeah. Five years ago. Yeah, around five years ago, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, because often people don't see results immediately. So I think you are a great example that you've been. showing up for some time which obviously pays off with the following that you got yeah I will say that now it's still at LinkedIn I heard it for tons of people from a ton of people at LinkedIn
Starting point is 00:23:43 is very much preferred to push the small creators with less than 10 3 followers that's why I see people with a thousand with a dozen thousand followers I mean they have nice engagement and then I see someone with less than 10K with
Starting point is 00:23:59 oh my God this is insane how and so I heard So I heard it, I heard, I don't know how credible it is, but I think it's, I think it is something that LinkedIn is pushing for the small creators of under 10K parallel. But who knows for how long? There is always something that LinkedIn pushes. No one knows. Yeah, no one knows. And then changes. Then with your journey, have you always been consistent in showing up or did you also take breaks or like wanting to give up or actually given up for some talk?
Starting point is 00:24:29 I'm not, no, no, I look, up until I think two or three years ago, I posted only twice or three times per week. Now I'm posting almost every day. It's a lot of content. Oh, yeah, that's tough. I mean, but if you look into my canva, you will see a ton of content, way never. It's repurposing content from those years ago when no one remembers. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Everyone should do it, but the debate.
Starting point is 00:24:59 about we update it, make it with, you know, design and all that stuff. I actually think that your niche or your area, like what you focus on, is really smart because they are always going to be new films, new stuff to discuss, maybe new tools, new updates. So there's always going to be exciting. That's just saying that there are tons of people. Yeah, a ton of people tell me that they're going to watch a movie only if I recommend them. I hope people told me that.
Starting point is 00:25:27 You know how much power you've got now It's crazy Yeah, it's amazing And can you introduce us more about the work That you do now Because you said that you work in AI or virtual reality If I'm not mistaken
Starting point is 00:25:42 I'm working I'm working on a startup company And we are making an augmented AI stuff Augmented Reality manuals For devices And machines Not that stuff
Starting point is 00:25:52 Most people don't get it When I say Augmented Reality They think it's a virtual the VR, but I say no, think about Pokemon Go, that's it. That sounds cool. And what kind of device is that? There's nothing specific.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Like, for example, you have a coffee machine and you don't know how to use it, so we can show you how the phone and the augmented reality and all that stuff. Okay. That's interesting. So I'm doing the 3D stuff, the animation stuff and all. Are there any cool projects that you are proud of it and that you work? and would be willing to tell us more about. I can't talk about it as well.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Okay, no problem. What is actually the software that you use? Because before we discussed Blender, is it what you use at work as well or not? Yeah, yeah. Blamper is my door too. Okay. Because I thought maybe like the company tells you,
Starting point is 00:26:46 you need to use this one. You cannot use different one. No, no, I'm using Blender most of the time. It seems to me that lots of medium company, those smallest companies, they are moving toward Blender, because it's free. Yeah, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I'm not surprised. Yeah, but it's not just me. It's amazing. I mean, even if you give me other stuff in other software free, I will still go to Blender. It's fantastic. And I guess it's resource, right? So people continuously update it, if I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 00:27:15 It's open source, yeah. I actually met a few months ago. I met a movie director who directed some very nice guys. So we set for a coffee and all that stuff. And so he was impressed with what I'm doing. on LinkedIn and go and etc. And then I was, and so he knows about V,
Starting point is 00:27:30 is a VFX guy. Then I showed him some stuff I'm doing on the blender. Like, this is a blender. Yeah. So I mean, people are in shock to see how powerful is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I was about to ask you before if you've got time, you know, because you work, you spend time on LinkedIn. So even if you've got time in your free time to work on your personal stuff or explore VFX outside of work.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Okay, so here's the thing. I'm trying to always work on some new project for myself to always to learn more. So that's why I'm posting in terms of 3D stuff. All the 3D stuff I'm posting, it's not work-related. But two years ago, no, until 18, 18 months ago, I posted every week, almost every week, a new 3D art of mine. But that was when I was posted only 3D. Now I'm posting 3D guides, AI guide, movie related stuff, so I can't do it with 3D every week. So I'm trying to do every month, every two, three weeks.
Starting point is 00:28:37 It's tough. Yeah, I can imagine. And of course, you want to practice like in your free time to keep improving your skills as well. Yeah. So what is the, let's say, seen or like the people on LinkedIn that are in the similar niche as you are? if there are any people like that, like you post consistently and grow following, talking about the stuff that you do, if there are any other people. Mostly, I think, no, there are people about, no, there are people about cinematic stuff,
Starting point is 00:29:09 but with AI. There is Rolf Lane, I bet you know this guy. Oh, I spoke with him. Rory's, he's great master of mid-jourly. I spoke to him. I think it was almost two years ago, I spoke to, if we had a call. years ago, it was very long. We did a podcast episode together.
Starting point is 00:29:28 But I would say that my knowledge in 3D and movies really helps you with the AI. I mean, I talked to someone about me Journey and I showed him. So he told me I want to see a prompt of you. I saw him, what? What are all these elements? I'm adding cameras, lenses, cinematography, atmosphere, all that stuff. So because I know what to add. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And as you are talking about AI, what's your take on AI and impact on the industry, like VFX industry? Because... I knew that this question will come up, because this question is coming up with every single person I'm talking. Look, I don't know. I would say, I don't know. Little disclaimer, it's because I briefly worked in VFX industry as well, so I know what it takes to create such assets. and got friends that I worked with and they look at it
Starting point is 00:30:24 so generally curious. Here's the thing. There are tons of new tools every week, every single week, and I don't know what to say, but I will say that the best thing we can do
Starting point is 00:30:36 is to learn this tools. That's the thing. Some of them are very scary. I mean, the new Google stuff and there's some text tool 3D stuff, which is pretty great I posted about you recently.
Starting point is 00:30:47 But at the end of the day that someone say, it's not the AI who is going to all, will replace you, but the person who knows AI. So I'm doing the best I can by learning this tool. That's the best I can do. I think this is the right approach.
Starting point is 00:31:01 That's, I think that's the only approach. You find out sooner or later. I think it was two years ago, something. Way more than a year, that's for sure. Someone sent me a link of an AI that text to 3D. So like, that's it? No, you have no job. I was like, did you see the quality of this 3D models?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Not good. But now there is a great AI, a triple AI. So I was very impressed with the detail, with the textures. I was like, oh my God. But still, there are tons of work to do here. I'm taking the 3D model. That's not it. I'm imported to blender and then it's tons of work.
Starting point is 00:31:48 It doesn't end. Oh, let's generate a model. Bye-bye. Of course. Yeah. I think that's sometimes what people think. But I often see like a video, whether it's from you or someone else who shares like a brief clips of the stuff that AI did. And I'm impressed as well that I would never expect that can be so advanced.
Starting point is 00:32:10 And if I compare it to what I've seen before, I'm curious to see what it looks like in the future. This is crazy. I mean, I remember a few weeks ago, I asked for me, a simple but realistic shot of a cup of coffee on a table. I added tons of realistic stuff, like depths of field, tons of cameras, and the result was very amazing, very realistic. So then I took the image and I entered it, I imported it. I don't remember it was one way or cleaned, one of the two.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I can't recall which one of them, and I asked, I asked for the camera to zoom in a little and to pan to the I think to the right and to add some over the car not smoke, fog You know, when it's hot I just forgot the name
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah, yeah, Steve, yeah, steam Yeah, steam And the result was like Oh my God, it was, it's so good And scary Yeah I don't know if you see I posted a thing last week
Starting point is 00:33:11 This is people Are people who saw it When not I asked for my journey an image of a bird flying on the sky, flying in the sky. But I wanted to be very cinematic, so I added tons of stuff. So it was exactly what I wanted. It was a bird.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Actually, it was an eagle, but still, above the clouds, drone shot. So you can see it kind of from above. And you can see the clouds under it and the sea and some continent way under. And I also asked it to be golden hour, to make it golden stuff. I thought the image was amazing. Then I took it and entered it to runway and I asked it to animate it and it was amazing. I was like, oh my God, it's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:57 What will be then some of your favorite tools? I'm using my journey a lot and I love also Rwainway and cling. My journey and runway are usually my go-to when it comes to images and videos. And triple AI I am using a lot for a 3D if I wanted to generate models. And I'm using perplexity a lot. Oh, yeah, yeah. And when it comes to content creation, such as helping you to write LinkedIn posts, for example,
Starting point is 00:34:25 or creating content, any other favorite tools? Most of the posts I'm writing myself. Sometimes I need some ideas or some information, so I'm going to perplexity and ask for it. But that's it. Because a lot of people told me that they feel that my post are for me and not for my eyes. So there are some of the posts where you can see just a,
Starting point is 00:34:45 of course and I'm sure that Neti you get lots of messages asking you for some advice to grow on LinkedIn I'm sure that's the question that many people ask you so what's your answer
Starting point is 00:35:00 I'm having tons of webinars all that I will say that only two stuff you need to do on LinkedIn one is posting in consistency and I don't mean you need to post every day no but consistency
Starting point is 00:35:14 even if it's twice a week, but make it twice a week. If it's Monday and Wednesday, make it every week, Monday and Wednesday. Don't change. And talk to people, but you can't do one of these. Because people, there are a ton of people. I mean, people think that people don't know
Starting point is 00:35:29 how to talk to people. Because LinkedIn is about, someone told me once that if in Facebook you're talking to someone, you are a widow. But if you're living on LinkedIn, you are not talking to someone, then you're weirdo. Yeah, I like it. It's like you know.
Starting point is 00:35:42 But I will say this, that you need to have your credibility. You need to have your credibility. That's why I'm talking. For example, imagine someone sending you a message on LinkedIn and he wants to talk to you, chat with you or hear on LinkedIn
Starting point is 00:35:56 or with coffee chat, whatever. So you enter his forefair and you see he's doing nothing. The banner is not good. Barely an activity. Not in an apology, you will see what is going on. But if you see someone
Starting point is 00:36:08 credibility with stress, you will want to talk to him. That's a good point. Or just try to place yourself in their shoes because it's, for example, if I signed up for LinkedIn, I haven't been there just for, I don't know, a few days, not posted, not complete profile. And I'm going to text someone who's got, for example, like you 30K followers. What are the possibilities that you're going to get back to me? Yes, you might get back to me, but you might also think that I'm some kind of scan or something.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Look, I'm getting a ton of connection with every day. So as long as the image profile is professional enough and the banner is solid, I'm okay. I'm okay. Because people don't get it how much. I can, sometimes I see people that they have amazing and amazing image profile, but the banner is bad.
Starting point is 00:36:57 The banner is important. Sometimes even more than the image profile. Or sometimes even with grammatical mistakes. Of course, it's not a big deal. We all do mistakes. But when you've got AI to help you to make it correct. do some effort. What are net is some of your favorite creators on LinkedIn or some people that you follow? Oh man, there are too much. I can't name them. I'm serious. There are so many amazing creators here.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I don't want to I really I'm afraid to say because then tons of others say why didn't it's very it's a tricky question. It's like asking me what is my favorite movie. It's hard to choose. Yeah, no, I know. And if okay, of course I was going to ask about your favorite movie. because it's like a must question. But if you don't want this one, do you have, for example, a favorite director? Well, man, this is tricky because I have some favorite director. I can't because I have directors that I love
Starting point is 00:37:55 and all of them are my favorites. I can too. Christopher Nolan, for example, because it's Christopher Nolan. I mean, he's doing the Odyssey next year and I can't wait for it. It's like Christopher Nolan is making a fantasy epic. They build an entire city, I think. It's like the iconic remove of shut up and take my money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:20 And if you've seen the cast, the people who are going to be in the film, it's crazy as well. Yeah. Tom Holland, Charlie's Terran, Anna Atwe, Robert Pattis of Zendaya. I mean, how?
Starting point is 00:38:33 I mean, it's a little weird to me to see Nolan taking, usually take, he adds less. well-known actors, but I don't care. Yeah, it's going to be impressive. I would say also, Deni Villeneuve, he did Dune. It's amazing. David Yitz, I love David Yvette, is a guy who directed the last four Harry Potter movies.
Starting point is 00:38:58 He's amazing. Alfonso de Lerone also directed the third Harry Potter movie and Gravity. Yeah. This is the kind of director that you say the name and I'm there. This is how we kind of director. Also, Matt Reeves He directed the second and third band of the apes
Starting point is 00:39:18 And the new Batman, which was phenomenal West Ball West Ball is very underrated. He directed the entire Mesrana trilogy, which was excellent. It also the newest planet of the apes And he's now making the live-action Zelda movie.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Oh, wow. I'm curious about that one. But I know that the movie's adaptations of games have been quite popular. quite popular, looking, for example, on Minecraft recently, so I'm not surprised. They're becoming also popular and great. The Mario movie was great. The Sonic movies are excellent, I think.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah, I think there is a resurgence of this kind of thing. Oh, and Stephen Spielberg, of course. We're getting next to you an original sci-fi movie from Steven Spielben. Yeah, that's a thing because I can't choose my film. Yeah. No, I was about to ask you, when you go watch a film, if you are able to enjoy it, like, let's say a regular person, or if you keep thinking about how did they do this?
Starting point is 00:40:19 I can't. I can't because, I mean, usually I can take someone with me to a fresh screening. If the others don't know, so I'm getting fans to my linear activity. I'm getting invitations for movies press screenings all the time, which is fun. Getting to see the movie with everyone else in free. It's amazing. Sometimes there's also food, pizza is all that. Yeah. So I tell to people that if you come with me, you will hear me scream.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Because sometimes I'm like, gosh, she's the color, see the cinematography, see the liking, see this shot. And the people next to me, if the person next to me, it doesn't understand movies either, that's the hell. What is he talking about? But I can imagine you need to enjoy it. Yeah, when I saw Dune, Part 2 on the big screen. on iMacs on the as a press win i was like kill me now this is oh my god every time on oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god
Starting point is 00:41:18 yeah i actually went to watch it in imax in london and so and it was or i don't know actually it was dune maybe it was openheimer but it was amazing experience iwax what are some upcoming movies which are very excited about if they are not too many fantastic fall no there are some fantastic fall because mainly because the traders great and I love the director. It's my checkman. He did Wondervision which was excellent and he also did Monarch from
Starting point is 00:41:47 Apple. If you haven't seen Monarch in Apple TV which is a spin monarch legacy of the monster I think they call it. It's from it like Godzilla Fantastic. Godzilla. Oh yeah yeah yeah. Exactly. It's set between Godzilla the first Godzilla and I think Kong's
Starting point is 00:42:06 I can't think about it's a fantastic stuff. Kong School Island. I remember yeah yeah so I'm I'm working for this one I'm also very much waiting for yeah my watch the weekend two where weekend from Luda because the first one was amazing actually I were more excited for the movies next year this year yeah well there is so much always cool stuff so no surprise and that is just as we will be approaching the end of the recording outside of films and what we just discussed, do you have any other hobbies like what you like doing in your free time?
Starting point is 00:42:44 Let me see you, I show you. I'm playing VR. Oh wow. Yeah, I'm playing a lot. And yeah, I'm playing a lot beyond games and reading sci-fi and fantasy books and go out with friends. I'm doing it all the time. Yeah, but friends who loves movies usually. Well, one of my next questions, if you read books, and if so, I know that it's going to be tough, but if you can recommend some of your favorite ones or books that have been impactful to you? Look, I'm rereading the Harry Potter books every year. All that's right.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I will say that if you want a great fantasy, sophisticated, Twiliter, you should read His Duff materials. the Golden Compass, a.k.a. It's a fantastic trilogy, one of my favorite ever. It's about multiverse and angels, demons, demons, polar bears.
Starting point is 00:43:44 It was released in the late 90s. And it was adapted for a movie, The Golden Compass, which flopped, and then it was re-adapted into a show for HBO. Three seasons, one season per book, and it was excellent. I've been waiting for this adaptation
Starting point is 00:43:58 for over a decade. And when it was released, I would like, oh, my God. Yeah. And do you also read non-fiction books? Very well. Okay, I'm not interested in that. I think you can get a ton of life lessons and inspirations from the Favdisibles.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah, I mean, why not? And as you mentioned, Harry Potter, I'm a big friend of Harry Potter as well, because as we discussed before, I grew up with the movies. Yeah. Then, Neti, can you summarize where people can find you, follow you, and basically promote anything that you create or share online. Mainly here on LinkedIn, I have 30-3K followers, so feel free to join. I also started a newslet a few months back on a substack about movies, of course.
Starting point is 00:44:49 A movie I really hope it will get more traction because it's movies. And I also am available on Instagram and Facebook, but not that much. but mainly LinkedIn and I hope I hope also a substep. I think that I should have asked you and did not or any final message or a piece of advice that you would like to share. Just find your voice. Yeah, find your voice.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Find your whatever you have 10K followers, 150K,000. It doesn't matter. It's all about finding your voice. I know I see creators who are not so many followers, but they are created such as, strong brand that everyone knows them and wants them. So it's all just trying to find a unique voice.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Someone told me recently that one of the best decisions I made in the last six months was to change my, to re-brand myself. I made, I mean, if you see, you can see it in my carousels and in my post and in my banner that I have main colors of orange, yellow like that and very, very, very dark blue. so that's what I'm doing and people told me that they recognize all the time this stuff I can recognize you to see you in an instant
Starting point is 00:46:07 so that's it I agree and I like it because it's like automatic association like I'm recognizing your slidder in green all the time yeah my words I recognize your orange as well so I think it's a perfect example
Starting point is 00:46:23 I think then Neti I think we can finish one to say a big thank you because I've been following you for some time, being a fan, also a big fan of movies and VFX. I think you're doing the great job and I'm very happy that we finally made it. Of course we can do sequel anytime in the future again. I will keep following and supporting. So thank you so much and I really enjoyed it. Okay. Thanks for listening to Produce By with Tomi. Check the show notes for all the links
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