Produced By - Inside the Mind of an AI Educator: How to Scale Knowledge Globally | #98: Denis Panjuta

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

Denis Panjuta is a leading voice in AI education, programming, and automation, helping businesses and individuals unlock the power of technology. As the founder of TutorialsEU, he has taught over 500,000 students worldwide through his top-rated courses, YouTube content, and hands-on training. With a background in engineering and a passion for making AI accessible, Denis breaks down complex concepts into practical skills that anyone can master. From ChatGPT to custom AI solutions, he’s on a mission to help people future-proof their careers and businesses.In this episode, Denis takes us behind the scenes of AI and large language models, sharing the realities of teaching hundreds of thousands of people online. We talk about the challenges of scaling knowledge, staying ahead in the ever-changing tech landscape, and what it’s like managing a global audience while speaking more languages than you can count on one hand—including Japanese. If you’re curious about AI’s future or looking for inspiration from someone who’s built an educational empire, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.Connect with Denis:https://aidenis.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/denis-panjuta/Timestamps:Timestamps:00:00 - Intro and AI as your consultant  01:15 - Dennis’s journey from coding to AI  03:00 - Future of AI agents and automation  06:10 - AI meets robotics  09:05 - Staying current in AI  12:31 - Using custom GPTs for business  16:52 - How to prompt AI effectively  19:44 - Saving time with AI tools  23:06 - Learning Japanese with AI  29:12 - Time management and delegation  35:31 - Building a business through teaching  41:08 - Reaching 500K students on Udemy  45:41 - How engaging teaching transforms careers  50:08 - AI tools that enhance learning  53:16 - Where to find Dennis online  55:21 - Final thoughts and wrap-up#ai #artificialintelligence #chatgpt Connect with Tomas:X: https://x.com/TomasLoucky⁠⁠⁠Stan: https://stan.store/TommenLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomasloucky/⁠⁠Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisistommen/⁠⁠Unproduced:Newsletter: https://unproduced.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@unproducednotesSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033Ddo8ibDlLYoaP7FFLIWMore:Links: https://linktr.ee/produced_by⁠⁠⁠Newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://producednewsletter.substack.com/⁠The Podcast Club: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/25420030/Tools & gear that support the show:Metricool: https://f.mtr.cool/HRJBZKRiverside: https://riverside.sjv.io/vDnDodFavikon: https://www.favikon.com?fpr=tommenRa Optics: https://ra-optics.myshopify.com/discount/TOMMEN?rfsn=8803777.591d19JamX: https://jamx.ai/podcasters-offer?ref_id=e02d48af-ef66-4e76-b804-c2e8d282a8bfSome links are affiliate links, which means I may earn a small commission at no extra cost to you. If you find them useful, using these links helps keep the podcast running. Thank you!  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

with this approach, you always will get the best responses. Because what you get as a result are a bunch of questions. And you answer those questions. And when you don't have an answer to a question, you tell it to dive deeper. So you get, let's say, 20 questions. And you can answer 17 of those. But the other three, you're struggling. So two, you say, I don't care about those two.

But one of them you say, please let's dive deeper into that as well. So then it gives you another few questions and helps you to answer the first question. And I did that. And then it felt like, I'm not kidding. It felt like I was talking to someone who is a business consultant and had an entire day to constantly listen to me, ask questions, find out more about me, my business, my personality, my values, and so forth. And then gave me advice at the end. And that's how it felt. And I was like, what?

How is this possible? It was incredible. There was such a high quality response that was so specific. There were words that I never used, but they described my values so incredibly. Before we dive into today's episode, please hit that subscribe button. Your support helps us grow and inspire more people on their journeys. Thank you. Hello, Dennis.

Thank you for joining us today and welcome to the show. Hi, Thomas. Thank you for having me. So, Dennis, for those who do know you, can you please introduce yourself? Well, yeah, I'm Dennis Ponuta. I come from Germany. I live in Cologne. I have two kids and a wife and also a small.

poodle, a dog. And I am an influencer, you could say, on LinkedIn at the same time on educators. So I've been teaching people how to code for the last 12 years now. And I moved over to teaching people about AI roughly a year ago. And that has been my focus of my content on LinkedIn, as well as on YouTube, where I moved from coding to AI as well. So is it area that you plan to continue growing and focusing on? AI? Yes. So as I come from a technical side, I have been doing AI stuff for a while. So I used AI myself for like even before chat GPT came out. And I used GPT3, which was a significant diverse

version of chat GPT back in the day, but still was already interesting enough to use. Yeah, that's when I step by step realized, okay, coding is going to have a tough time or coders in general are going to have a tough time. And we can see that now and it feels like it's going to get harder in the future. And yeah, it's just a beginning of AI changing everything. So that's why I want to focus on AI in the future as well. Obviously, there are new areas that are popping up in the AI sphere. So not just like the new tools that are coming out all the time, but some really drastic changes. So AI automation was something pretty cool that I jumped into and also learned and also started teaching and built some really

amazing automations that I absolutely love. But at the same time, I think this year will be the year of the agents. And who knows, maybe the agents will be the last tool that we will need to manage ourselves before we don't need to manage anything ourselves anymore.

So who knows where the future will bring us? I've been seeing agents a lot on LinkedIn. Whether it's in the post or people send in DMs if you want to try or explore. So I guess that's a good point. Well, the thing is you have to consider that the world is made for humans, right? So, well, because we build it, at least our world, or the size of everything, like the dwarfs, is made for humans because we have a certain size and that's why they are two meters and something, right? And so forth.

And the same goes for software on your computer. So if you go to a website, it's made for a human. it's very often very inefficient because we have to move the mouse, we have to click, we have to enter stuff into our keyboard and the output is very slow and so forth. However,

everything is built around that. The whole internet is basically build around that. There is a sub-level, which is API, so basically servers talk into each other directly. That's also something that is available and that's where AI automation comes into play. So AI automation is basically where two different tools are talking to,

each other to automate processes accordingly or not two, maybe it's 10 different tools or whatever, but once one thing happens, another thing starts to happen as well, that triggers another and so forth, that would be AI automation. But AI automation is not something that everyone can use. AI agents, however, everyone can use without learning much about it. Because in the end, you just know what you want to achieve and you tell the thing what the agent, what it needs to do, and then it just does it by clicking buttons the way you would do it, right? So that's why I think agents will be like drastically changing the way we work and we potentially will become agent managers rather than actually doing our job and ourselves anymore.

We'll become lazier. Well, we already have been becoming lazier and lazier. I don't know how many phone numbers you still can recall. I can only recall my own phone number and some point. numbers that I know from childhood of my family and my friends, you know. I was going to say the same that I remember those from many years ago of my family. Yeah, that's it. And everything else, because it's not relevant anymore, you can forget it.

And the same will go for many skills. It's like university. You go through university. You learn so much stuff. And then you start working and you learn so many new things. But all the stuff that you learned in university, you realize that most of it you never needed to go through uni. That's it. Yeah.

But I also did an episode with someone recently about automation, and I agree, it's just such a helpful tool. If you can outsource basically routine, mundane or boring tasks so that it leaves you energy, time, or even brain, one way to focus on those that are more important. So I agree that it will probably become a big topic. Yeah. I mean, the combination of AI automation and agents will be, well, drastically, shift everything. I'm certain about it.

And then the next level will obviously be getting that into the physical world through robots. So that's what... It will be scary part. Yeah. Like the sci-fi. Yeah, it is a little bit like this iRobot movie, right?

Where we have these robots that are really capable, very smart. And now the problem that we have right now still is that those robots are not cheaply created. They aren't tested. The society isn't ready for them yet and so forth. It's one thing to have them at your job, but it's another thing if you go through the streets

and suddenly you see a robot doing its thing. So do you recall Google Glasses? I read about it, but I don't remember when it happened. Okay. So it was 2013-14. That's when Google Glasses were first announced. And they were amazing back then. I was like, I want one of those.

But the problem was society wasn't ready for them. People who wore those glasses were attacked by people in bars and stuff because people felt like people were filming. Like the guy with the glasses was filming them. And that's why it was actually scary to wear some of those glasses because you would actually get punched in the face for it, potentially, right? Not everyone, but depending on where you were. And that's why.

And have you actually tried them? Did you have them as well? No, I have VR glasses laying around here and stuff, but it's not the same, right? It's like these lightweight AR glasses, they are really big. I mean, you see the Ray Ben meta glasses now? They are basically a reduced version

of what the Google glasses were in terms of their features that they were promising and stuff. But in the end, it's like the readiness of the public. for this technology has grown over the last few years. 2013-14, not even everyone had a smartphone. Yeah, if you think about it, it's been more than 10 years. It's crazy. It's in such a long time.

Yeah, that's right. And at the same time, obviously, technology has gotten significantly better. And the features that it can manage to do and so forth now with generative AI enabled is even better. It's like absolutely incredible what you can achieve with it. actually talk to it directly and so much more out of it, right? It's true. I think it's hard to keep up with everything, what is going on. And obviously, if you are in, since you are in this field,

then also I follow you on LinkedIn so I know what you post. How do you manage to keep up and come up with the latest news and stay on top of the things? The thing is, first of all, I am very interested in these topics. And I think without that, it wouldn't work. Once it becomes your job, it becomes, like, you need to, like, automate stuff or at least create efficient processes in order for this to work. So I also have a team.

So I have people who help me to work out the content to create visuals and stuff like that. But then at the same time, you have to consider that nowadays you have such powerful AI tools that can do research in no time. And the biggest change or challenge that I still see is even if you try, really hard with AI, it somehow never feels quite natural yet. And even if it tries to mimic you and stuff, I just don't feel it yet. Even though obviously there are very smart models, right? But still, like whenever we try to build a really powerful marketing message, whenever we use AI, it just becomes still a little too generic, so to speak. It's still fine. It still works.

it's better than like 95% of copy that people could write. 39% of copy that people would write. But still, if there is somebody who's like an absolute specialist in writing copy, I still believe that that person will get the message across better, like the gist of the story across better. Do you think we'll reach that point when it will be able to replace? Well, the thing is like you, for many people that has replaced it already. So, like, you always have to consider, are you the absolute best in your field?

If that's the case, AI will probably not be better at, well, it depends on obviously what we're talking about. We can see that now it's not to do better research than researchers can do and at a significantly higher scale and so forth. But when it comes to marketing, for example, if you want to write an amazing message, you need to prompt it perfectly as well. or it needs to have so much awareness, so much context awareness about your audience, about the more info or you feed it, the better answer you get. Obviously, yes.

Yeah, that for sure. I had this really interesting story, like experience just recently. And I was sitting there really struggling because I was trying to build this school. I have this school for AI automation, right? Because I'm really interested in AI automation. I'm a technical guy.

I like to code and so forth, right? But then at the same time, I don't see the future in coding. So where do I see the future? Well, potentially AI automation. So I started jumping into it. I learned a lot about it, build some cool automations.

And then I just had this problem, how I should market this school. Like, who is the target audience and what's the value that I can deliver and so forth? And I realized that my background is not, like, how you can build an AI agency, like an AI automation agency and make 10K a month or whatever.

That's not what I am. I am an educator so I show you how to build an online business but that was something that I wasn't like I really didn't see and really couldn't make myself aware of

until I built this custom GPT where I threw in everything about my business I threw in details about like the persona so details about who are the people who are joining my school like if you join a school you can add like a one liner about yourself

right? So I threw those in so that the custom GPT would have more insight as to what my audience is and stuff. I threw in my best working posts that I had on LinkedIn. I threw in my best working emails, the AB tests, so that it knows which subject tried against each other and which one won so that it could write emails for me and stuff like that. And then I had this conversation with it where I had this, I was really stressed out because I didn't find, the right way to move forward because it didn't feel right to go with the same direction anymore that I tried to force but it wasn't my direction. So it was just something that I was

I thought it was the right way because I saw other people doing it very well so I wanted to copy what they did but it just wasn't the right way because I have to put myself into the mix in the sense of my personality my interests my values and stuff like that and I only realized that after I had a very good conversation with my custom GPT. So I told it about my conundrum, my problem. I told it, guide me through questions. By the way, that's a really good tip for everyone listening or watching. Guide me through questions

or before you help me ask questions that will help you help me. Tell that to chat GPT. Whenever you work with it, it's going to come up with questions that you would have never thought of. And by doing so, like it's showing you holes that you had in your thought. in your thought about it. Yeah, like different angles or perspective. It's something that, to be honest, I haven't really done. So it might be a good idea for me as well. We give this a try.

You will be surprised. It's absolutely mind-blowing. So I realized that a few months ago, and I recorded the video just last week about the one prompt, where I showed how basically with this approach, you always will get the best responses. Because what you get as a result are a bunch of questions. And you answer to those questions.

And when you don't have an answer to a question, and you tell it to dive deeper. So you get, let's say, 20 questions. And you can answer 17 of those. But the other three, you're struggling. So two, you say, I don't care about those two. But one of them you say, please let's dive deeper into that as well. So then it gives you another few questions and helps you to answer the first question, so to speak, right?

And I did that. And then it felt like, I'm not kidding, it felt like I was talking to someone who has had an entire, who is a business consultant. and had an entire day to constantly listen to me, ask questions, find out more about me, find out more about my business, about my personality, about my values, and so forth, and then gave me advice at the end. And that's how it felt. And I was like, what?

How is this possible? It was incredible. There was such a high quality response that was so specific. Really, there were words in there that I never used, but they described my, values so incredibly well because it understood based on the answers that I gave to the questions that it exposed me to, that yeah, freedom is my core value. So I never told it something like freedom is my core value or whatever, but it says, hey, what you need to do is you need to modify the school to be an AI freedom business kind of thing. So where I show people how to build

a business with the help of AI, automations, and agents to become freer. Freedom is a powerful word. I mean, there's so much that is like behind it. Freedom obviously in the sense of your country is free. There's no war, for example. That's one level of freedom.

But there are so many different levels of freedom. And there is this really nice German song by a rapper called Curse. And he has made a song called Freedom. and his lyrics, they're really, they are touching me even like 15 years after the song came out, so I really love that. I'll check it out.

Never heard of it. It's a great point because I even see it many times on LinkedIn. You know, people are saying that it's not, for example, about the tool, but it's about the prompts or the information that you feed to the tool. So I think you just exemplified it perfectly. You know, not to have excuses that the tool is shit or something or that it's not working, but if you don't feed it,

sufficient information, it's not going to help you, obviously. Yeah, and that's why I just think it's really important to understand that as we have it right now, unfortunately there is a context window of 200,000 tokens in chat Shepete. Okay, that's 150,000 words. That's quite a lot of words. But if you throw in some PDFs with details about whatever, about your business, or about HR or about sales, about your products, and so forth, you can very easily exceed

that limit, right? Obviously, you could go and say, yeah, I'm going to build a gem in Gemini, which has a context window of one million or even two million tokens. So there you have more context. So you can throw in 750,000 or 1.5 million words, depending on which tool you're using. That's a lot of words again, right? So I think that's more than the whole Bible and stuff. So obviously you can do that. But at the same time, the thing is like, that's a mistake that I realize some people are still making. They believe that the conversation that they have with chat chipit,

that it learns from it or with any LLM, that it learns from it and it's aware of in the next conversation. Oh yeah, I thought so like when I was starting out as well and I thought oh, this would be amazing if I didn't have to feed the information I get and it's remembered.

Yeah, but it doesn't. So it has this memory features so to speak where it memorizes some core things like let's say you say something about I'm working in marketing and so forth then it's going to memorize okay or it's going to put it into memory is working in marketing for example right but it's not going to have like an in-depth understanding of who you are and what your values are and

so forth right I know your whole business and so forth so that's where a custom GPT is really cool because you can feed in these details once into your knowledge base, you throw in the knowledge there, the files, and then you can start a new conversation with that custom GPT, and it will know all of these things

every single time. So when I, for example, create a new video now, I just throw in a one liner, say I created a video about ABCD, and then I say, write an email for me. Then it writes an email in the format

that I wrote my last 20 emails, and I can just copy that because it's not going to be, I don't need to modify it too much, right? I can just say, hey, just do it, and it does it, and it's in the format that I need it. I don't need to, like, pre-prompted with an insanely complex prompt, like no prompt engineering required here,

and I also don't need to do a lot of chain of thought, like multiple processes. Just to do everything again and again and just sit down. There's also something that I should focus on more, because sometimes you do these things and it's repetitive. It's either boring, you just don't enjoy it because I do it. so regularly.

So those customers are amazing. I don't use it as much, but I should. I don't know if I'm lazy, but that's a great point. You said just said lazy, right? Sorry that I interrupt you, but if lazy, like if you are lazy, then it's this perfect tool because you can't stay lazy. You just have to like put the energy in once, but then after a bit you can be a lot more lazy, you know?

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But you as a professional, what other tools do you use? is there actually any other tool that you use even more than your GPT? So when it comes to large language models, I have been jumping around between the tools on a regular basis because let's say GPT4 was the best for a half a year or so. But then Claude 3.5 came out and Cloud Sonnet was amazing. And it still is amazing because Cloud Sonnet, in my opinion, is the most realistic AI when it comes to human-like behavior

or human-like conversations, at least in my opinion. I didn't compare it to O3 or 3 mini or so after that, but I've been using Claude whenever I wanted to have a meaningful exchange, like a meaningful conversation. Because what ChachyPT is trying to do or try to do, I believe it's a little better now, it always tried to be your buddy and like not push back if you said something stupid.

Okay. So if you said something wrong or stupid or we're going entirely the wrong direction, it would still try to help you with your wrong direction. But Claude would specifically state it, hey, you're going the wrong direction. How about we look at the other aspect instead? So that's an example of where I really preferred Claude over chat GPT for a long time. Now, with O3 Mini and with the custom GPT that I've built, it's really tough to not use that because it's just such a.

powerful tool like these custom GPDs if you use them right they can save you so much time and other than that so i also started using Gemini especially with the deep research feature so if you want to really dive deep into like any any given topic and you want to have a very in-depth understanding of what was written about it and what the situation is using the google gemini deep research even though it only has the Gemini 1.5 version version it's still very smart and very good It doesn't even have to be super smart. I mean, in the end, it's just putting information together, analyzing information and putting it together, right? So that's something I've been using.

And, yeah, I also use it on my phone. So I really like to play video games in Japanese. Oh, really? Yeah. Are you learning the language? Yeah, I'm learning Japanese since, like, since eight years. It's such a long journey. It's really, like, it has been an up and down with it.

But whenever I play a game and I don't understand the sentence and I can just swipe up and I can just say explain the sentence to me or break down the sentence and it just explains it in a lot of depth and I really like that. And you made me curious why are you learning Japanese? I wasn't expected that. Oh, that's a good question. I think there's no good reason for it. So I felt it's because a friend of mine moves to Japan and I really like to. liked anime as well as JRPs. So I bought a book and started learning Japanese and I started enjoying it a lot. I thought it was really fun. And then, yeah, it just went from there. I learned the kanji, so the characters, Chinese characters that Japanese are using.

That was a lot of fun. And then I gradually got better, but it was, it actually led to some learning burnout multiple times along the way. Because if you want to do it efficiently, you usually need to use something called an SRS, so a spaced repetition system. And what that does is it makes sure that you learn the vocabulary in the right frequency at the right time, so to speak.

So there is this concept where you have a memory, you have a time for forgetting something. So let's say you learn a new word. If you repeat that in 10 minutes, then you can repeat it again in a day and it will potentially be still there. If you know the word in a day as well, then you can repeat it in two days.

And if you know it then still, then you can repeat it in five days. So the time that is between remembering the word or like trying to remember the word or the character or whatever is getting longer and longer over time. And that's something that's basically how our brain works to a degree. And that's why these space repetition systems are so insanely valuable in terms of being efficient.

Because otherwise, you would have your thousands of words that you need to look at every single day. And that would be a waste. So you couldn't efficiently go through them. And yeah, once you start using one of those SRS tools and the one that I'm using is Megaku, shout out to them, amazing tool. so then you are, so to speak, forced to keep going. Because if you stop, then the amount of reviews that you have to do in a day will be so many that it's exhaustive. So yeah. It has to become a habit.

Otherwise, it's not going to work. I mean, for languages, European languages are so easy to learn, any of them except for maybe like Finnish or Hungarian. Yeah, those two are really tough. but all the other languages are so easy to learn in comparison to Japanese or Chinese or Arabic, like these languages are in another level. So I assume that you would be fluent by now in Japanese. You know, he's just going to underestimate yourself. The thing is, I just know 5,000 words.

And in order to, and also I'm just consuming. So I don't have any like one-on-one school or anything like that. So I'm just from a consumer's perspective, learning the language. speak. And the crazy thing is I learned 3,000 words just in the last seven months. So I was very inefficient the time before jumping back and forth, trying this and that, so many different tools, which is why I'm so grateful for this tool that I was mentioning earlier called Migaku. So they have, they built the system where you can learn any language by, for example, using Netflix, where you see the words that you already know and you see the words that are perfect for

you to learn on a frequency list. So let's say it makes sense to learn the first thousand, like the most common thousand words first, right? Because otherwise there are some words that you would never need in a normal context. So you learn the most frequent ones and once you got

the most frequent words, it still makes most sense to only learn frequent words until you got those down and then you can start learning less frequent words. But yeah, with this tool you have like a mix of SRS. You can watch Netflix with dual subtitles and all of that stuff.

So I really love using that. And I already, like, the thing is, I was born in Russia. I grew up in Germany. I learned English in school, then French in school. Then I lived in Spain. So I learned Spanish. I had Latin in school. So then I also started with Japanese.

So now I'm, like, I've spent so much time on Japanese. If I had spent the same amount of hours that I spent on Japanese on, let's say, any of the other languages that I already knew so. to speak. I could be perfectly fluent in all of them, plus maybe two or three more. Because it's just, it's so tough. I guess if the carrier of AI or coding doesn't work out, you can still be, what's the word, pretty good? Like the person who speaks so many language? I think there's not much money in it. So, you know, that's always a thing. Like if you, I have a family, right? So I need to bring in the money. So I don't have the full freedom to only go for things that I,

I'm interested and I always have to, I have this side perspective of it needs to be able to do money. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. But still, as we discussed all this stuff, it sounds like you manage to do so many things because the family, business, I don't know, community, learning, social media and everything. So, I mean, we discussed processes before, but have you got like any secret or advice or how do you go with time management and all the stuff that you do?

Well, time management. So my experience is that if you can, then give away a task that doesn't have to be done by you. So I started hiring people, well, technically in 2016, but it took me until 2019 where I hired somebody full time. And after that, I hired more and more people. Then I went down to a smaller team again because it became too much for me. but in the end, what I did is I took a big flip chart and I wrote down all of the things that I do

and all of the things that I would love to do for my business, but I don't do because I don't either have the time or I don't have the skills, but I know that it would be good for my business to grow. So I wrote all of them down and then I marked them with color. Basically, is this something that only I can do or is this something that somebody in my team can do or potentially somebody that I would still need to hire?

So once I did that, I realized that 80% of the tasks that I was doing, I wouldn't need to do anymore because somebody else could do them. So I started to give away those tasks. I started to delegate and hired more and more people that did things that pushed me forward. So I couldn't do all the things that I do with my business all by myself. And you also, there's always something that you are particularly good at or that you are

particularly interested at. And you cannot be interested in everything. And you cannot be good at, or great at everything. You can be good at many things, but you cannot be great at all of them. So you need to find the right people to help you, either as partners or as employees or nowadays, you need to find the right agents or build the right automations. So it's still the same thing. So I really think coming back to what we talked about with AI agents earlier,

I just think that many people will have to learn managing skills because they will have to manage agents. So those agents are going to do exactly what you tell them to do. And many people will realize that they're not great at managing because they don't understand how to communicate a specific time. so precisely that it is resulting in what you want to have in the end. So it's going to be interesting for sure. Oh, and it's smart, obviously, because if other people can do that,

if they can help you and sometimes they can do it even better for you, then at least it gives you time to do the things that you are the best at. And of course, on top of this, you want to have time for your family or any life outside. So those are some great tips. Yeah, so the thing is, as I said earlier, you were lazy, but I am really lazy. Competition who's more lazy. Yeah, exactly. So I really don't like to do repetitive tasks either.

I get so unhappy when I need to do repetitive tasks. So I have this little anecdote that showed me or a little story that showed me that so precisely. So I had in my university, like during my... my studies, I had to do an internship. So I did an internship for half a year. And during that internship, I had a process that I needed to do for a week where I needed to do some copy pasting in an Excel sheet for a whole week. So literally like 40 hours of copy pasting.

And I went crazy. And it was so boring and repetitive. It could have been done with the script, but back then I didn't know how to script properly. And there was no chat GPT and so forth. And I couldn't learn it very quickly. so I needed to do it manually because it was time critical or whatever. So that showed me that I never want to do repetitive work. Sometimes it's fine to do a little bit of repetitive work here and there,

but it's a different story if it's something that is really boring as hell and can be done by somebody else. Because some people love boring work, because some people just want to have something simple that they know how to do and they can excel at just doing exactly, what is said. So for them it's perfect. And I'm glad that it is this way because this way everyone can find whatever is correct for them or whatever works for them. And I just know that this doesn't work for me and other people love it. So I don't think we can expect from everyone to be the AI

agent manager in the future who will still have people doing other stuff as well. So yeah, definitely interesting times ahead of us. I agree because there are like some people who like to do, let's say routine work where you don't really need to think about it. We just do the work and kind of switch off. And because you do it regularly, you know what it's like, you don't really need to think about it. So I agree that it's good that there are different people and not everyone is the same, basically.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's really important to find out what the things are that are important for you and it work for you. And again, maybe you want to use a custom GPT for that. I'm not kidding. like fill it up with as much information about you, ask it questions. So what is custom GPT that I built for my business? One of the most important things that I did is I said,

create a questionnaire of a bunch of questions. I didn't specify how many questions it needed to be, but I think it was 47 questions. So quite a lot of questions, right? And you need to really put a lot of thought into it. So I said, give me this questionnaire that will help you, well, that will allow me to have a custom GPT know as much as possible about my business to give me useful and valuable information or help and insights.

So, yeah, that's what I started with, 47 questions, and then obviously all the other files that I threw in, but that was so crucial for the overall understanding of the custom GPT, of my, like, yeah, because in the end, a business is to a big degree a reflection of the CEO, and yeah, it's true here as well. And this, we've been talking about the business. Is it tutorials, your business, that we're talking about?

Yes, you could say that. So it has been video courses since 2000. Well, business-wise, I made my first euros with it outside of YouTube in 2014. It's been a while, yeah. Yeah, and I went full time in 2016, January or February. And the first video course that I made, that's also a really cool story was for my bachelor's thesis. So I went to Hong Kong in 2011 for a semester abroad, right? And when I was abroad, I had a lot of time. So really enjoying time. Hong Kong was

amazing back then. I believe it's a little different now. Still amazing probably, but different, not as free as it used to be. So it was really like there was Hong Kong and then there was China and now it's really mixed. So even though China is doing very well as well to a certain degree. So I had this amazing time And I had a lot of time And I was so interested in coding But the university just couldn't teach it to me It just wasn't the right approach for me

So I saw the guy Bucky Robbers By the New Boston So he created tutorials on coding So he made a tutorial on Java On Android app development And so forth and so forth So I watched his stuff

And I absolutely loved it I was like holy smokes, this is so good. And I actually learned coding in such a short period of time in comparison to my uni. And I thought, yeah, I'm spending so much time in uni. And I don't make progress because it's all theoretical. And it's like it doesn't show me how the actual practical skill of coding works. So I just thought, I want to do the same thing.

I want to create courses. So after that, I needed to stop my bachelor's thesis. And my thesis was about 4G. So LTE, right? Signal stuff for your phone, right? or for the internet. And it was so boring. I was like, oh, I can't.

I just couldn't start it. I was two months into my thesis, so to speak, and I didn't do more than like half an hour of research or so. Because I was so not interested in the topic. But I was interested in coding and building an application. Like back then it was an app that was for Android and it was a game. And if I look at it now, it was so poorly built and so poorly developed. I was actually doing logic on the UI thread.

It was absolutely awful. But it worked and it was a lot of fun. So after a while, I went to my professor. I told him, I'm really not that interested in the topic, but I would be interested in this other topic. Can I do it with the other professor? So the other professor was like, oh, yeah, that's pretty cool. Because I said, I would love to create tutorials on coding

and teach people how to build an Android app based on that. Or like with it. So he said, yeah, cool. I'm very interested. Let's do it. And then I moved the topic. So I built this entire course on how to build this application from scratch. And then I thought, okay, so now I taught people how to build an Android app. But there's no Java tutorial out there.

So I also made an entire Java tutorial series where I taught people how to code with Java because Java was the programming language that you needed to build Android applications back then. Nowadays, there's Kotlin as well and like so many other solutions that you can use. but back in the day that was it so I made those in German because the German market was under saturated or like under not enough

yeah there was not enough content there and yeah I really enjoyed doing that so I created a bunch of tutorials I started the YouTube channel one of the videos got like 350,000 views and that's a lot

yeah but it was all in German and stuff I mean it was 2012 that I did that and yeah later on I did the same thing in English with harder topics as well. And there I think our best video is like 600,000 views or so. But it's quite a, I would say, like a big step to film yourself and put it online or YouTube. So what was your experience?

Like, very excited or very scared about the reception, what it's going to look like? I didn't think about that back then. So I wasn't showing myself. I didn't have a proper webcam or anything and I don't think it was necessary big then. even now it's not necessary. I mean, in the end, if you create great content that is highly educational and on point, you don't need to show your face. It can be all faceless.

But back in the day, was that even more. So I just created the videos and I enjoyed doing it. And the reception was very positive. So I never worried about a negative reception. I mean, in the end, I'm giving away wisdom, not wisdom, but knowledge. Right. So in my opinion, that's the most peaceful thing that you can. can do to a degree, right?

You give people, like, peacefulness may be the wrong word, but you're not harming anyone, right? You're giving away knowledge, and you're teaching people something meaningful and valuable. And I really love that, I still love it, the concept of knowledge is the only thing you can give away and keep. So you can multiply it while you also keep it. You're not losing the knowledge because you're teaching it to someone, right?

But if I give you this pen, you have the pen, I don't have the pen anymore. But with knowledge, it's like, it's so cool. You can multiply it. And with tools like YouTube and school and like my platform where you can buy my courses, I mean, I can give people knowledge for like a very affordable price that can drastically change their lives. And that's what I did with my courses on Udeme, right?

I reached 500,000 students there on UDM. I was about to mention it. I was about to ask you if you know the number. because I've got it open. The number of total students, it's impressive. Yeah, it's more than half a million now, so that's pretty cool. And the crazy thing that, so I had this vision or mission of teaching 10 million people how to code. But unfortunately, the demand for coding has gone down.

So I start believing in this mission. Now you can change it to teaching people about AI and still 10 million or not? Well, 10 million is such a big number, man. Yeah, I got to 5%. So it's still a huge number and more than 100,000 reviews, which is great as well. Yeah, so that means that people actually started learning and actually started the courses, right? So the cool thing is that how I thought about it is if I can teach thousands of people how to code, there will be some people whose lives I have drastically improved.

And you also live in Europe, right? So both of us, we live in Europe. And the difference between you being, I don't know, like a cleaner, for example, and being a developer is maybe like 3x the income, 2x or 3x, maybe even less. I mean, in Germany, it's like, it's less than 2x, I think. So if, yeah, maybe a little more than 2x, but it's not drastically more in terms of how much you take home in the end, right? Because of taxes and all of that stuff. So in other countries, however, like, for example, in Nigeria or in India or whatever, you name it, right?

There, the difference can be 10, 15, 20x. So somebody who has a low-paying job versus a developer is like a drastically difference. And this is something where such a simple thing like my course can change the situation of the entire family and not just the current family but for generations potentially because with this one course that somebody took

they start a snowball right and what's really important is in order for this to happen the course actually needs to be good because what otherwise happens is people have an interest they start

they lose the interest because it doesn't work as shown in the video or it doesn't work for them because it's too complicated, explained not well enough or not broken down enough and so forth. So you have a high responsibility because you have these people who are highly engaged and highly motivated and interested and then they start and then they don't get the experience

that they were hoping and they lose optimism, their motivation, their interest and so forth. So you have a high responsibility there as an educator. So yeah. It's like, for example, when I was trying to learn something, for example, language on YouTube as well. that YouTube is just amazing resource. Absolutely. Of course you can go down the rabbit hole for some entertainment or whatever,

but also there are lots of great tutorials. And I think if you find someone who teaches in an engaging way so that you come back next time, you are learning. And at the same time, you like the teacher. It makes all the difference. Absolutely. So as you said, if you know how to present it, how to teach people so that they come back,

it's like a big responsibility, but at the same time, something that if you achieve, it must be incredibly fulfilling. Yes, and at the same time, I got a little too disconnected from it. So at the beginning, it was a lot more like that, but then in the end, it's really, really sad to a degree because I now have 100,000 reviews, right, on UDMI as you just said.

So that means there were 100,000 people that actually started listening to me and watched my stuff, and then they said, hey, this is cool, or maybe they didn't like it or whatever. The overall rating is pretty good, like 4.6 stars, I think, or something like that. So that's a good sign. But at the same time, because it's all online, you don't have the same level of connection to your audience. So I just last week gave an online workshop for my office. Like, I am working in a shared office here.

So there is a company in here that I gave the workshop to. And it was really awkward because it was an online workshop. with people where half of the team was in the thing like 20 meters or 10 meters away from me, you know? Yeah. And but at the same time, I know these people. So like if I walk past them, they can say, hey, well, then it's this thing that you showed me about like casting DPTs.

It's dressed in improving my workflow. I'm so happy that I have that. Like I had this task that took so many hours every week and now I can do it in minutes and stuff. Yeah. We're actually use cases where somebody, like a three hour time, three day task. we could break down to 10 minutes. And it was so incredible.

This is so mind-blowing. And then this other situation, so one of their team was in a workshop earlier by me, and she learned from my workshop so much and got so interested in the topic that she became the AI expert in her team. So now, like whenever people have anything that has to do with AI, they come to her.

Crazy thing is she came as a student. So she was working there as a student part-time and got to such a high status and high role in her team, even though she's the youngest member. There are people who have 25, 30 years of experience, right? But they come to her for advice. So that's pretty cool.

That's really opening up so many opportunities for everyone, right? You can become the AI expert by, for example, buy my course. But imagine someone. becomes interested in this topic or it, for example, can change the whole career thanks to one person such as you because you did workshop in such an exciting way shared information, made it engaging

so that that person got interested in it and can change the whole career trajectory. It must feel pretty cool. Well, I never think about it, but yeah, you're absolutely right. It is pretty cool. The thing is like, what you're saying is so valuable because, or like so true,

because there are studies that has shown that. If you like your teacher, the amount that you're going to learn from him is drastically improved. Because you see the thing that they are saying is more valuable. And that's why you stored better in your brain. And that's why I think YouTube is so,

so important for the collective knowledge that we have in our world. I think without YouTube, it wouldn't have been possible. Just think back, even like 20 years ago, right? There was no YouTube in 2005. It just started maybe. There were some other pages out there or whatever.

But if you wanted to learn something, obviously you could go to forums, you could go to websites and so forth. But otherwise, you would have to get a book. It would have to read a book. And not everyone loves reading. Reading is a lot more exhaustive than watching a video. And also, the way we are,

as humans is that communication through conversation is the most natural thing to us, right? So stories and communication through stories is what really matters to us as humans. So a book obviously can convey a story, can convey information. But it's not the most natural way to get knowledge. but if you watch a video where somebody is basically talking to you, it's a different level of how you learn. And obviously, in a book, it can have a lot more condensed information, can be more on point and so forth,

because somebody who writes a book thinks for months on how to optimally talk about a given topic, but at the same time, for many people, it's too dense them, right? I agree, and I think also with video on YouTube, you can see literally the video what it looks like how the person is doing that tutorial and stuff like that

which makes it I feel like it gives it like a new layer of learning like on top of listening to you and like having an experience of kind of communication although it's through the video it also lets you to see

the person for example doing some stuff so I think that makes it just more efficient as well yeah yeah absolutely I mean in the end if you know where to click

it's so much easier right and if you just read in a book and there are screenshots and the screenshots have been taken in an old version and it's really tough to get it right which brings me back

to another AI tool that I didn't talk about earlier but I think it's also absolutely mind blowing is AI studio by Google so there you can share either your camera or you can share your screen

and you can talk verbally talk to the AI and say hey I am trying to do A, B, C, can you please help me? So for example, another Excel pro, right? So I don't know how to use Excel efficiently. So I just threw in an Excel file and I used this tool and I said, hey, help me visualize data.

So then it's told me what I need to click. It said, oh, yeah, there is this button at the top left side. Click on that. It's called so-and-so. There's an icon that looks like ABC, whatever. And then you click on it and it just leads you through the process. And I just think so amazing. It's so mind-blowing what this tool can do.

Not going to life, either wasn't aware of it or I haven't tried it. So it made me curious. We'll give it a try. Yeah, it's really good. And it's free as well because it's still like a developer tool, so to speak. So I can highly recommend checking it out. It will potentially be available publicly very soon as well. It's basically what Open AI has presented in May last year,

where they were showing they're really cool, like, cam feature where you can show what you're looking at and then it would explain what's going on in the thing. They still haven't released it yet, right? But Google has at least given us access through like this developer's environment. The thing is it's just unfortunately until now the two resource intensive to do it because it needs to real-time stream while at the same time analyzing whatever is happening with a lot of images that needs to be like analyzed and so forth. So computational-wise, it's really heavy. If I tried my laptop, would probably explode.

Well, your laptop couldn't do it. So it all happens in the cloud, right? Okay, okay. Your laptop wouldn't be able to do it. I think the cool thing is that we have multiple levels of increments and improvements. So the models that can analyze the information and so forth, they become smaller, which makes the resources required in order to achieve the task less, and at the same time, the hardware is getting better. So we have like two forces both pushing the price down

or like the computational energy that is required down so that it will potentially be available in our glasses, maybe even locally. So you don't even have to talk to a cloud server or whatever if you are like, you care about privacy a lot, then the glasses would potentially only be for you personally or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, another sci-fi innovation soon, I'm sure.

Yeah, absolutely. And then it's just to be aware of time. I feel like that it flew so quickly and we could be speaking for much longer. Yeah. But before finishing, can you summarize where people can find you, follow you, and promote any of your services? Thank you very much for that opportunity. Yeah, so you can find me on LinkedIn.

The name is Dennis with one N. Pan Juta, P-A-N-J-U-T-A. And yeah, on LinkedIn, I post a lot of content. You can also find me on YouTube, but I'm really thinking about rebranding my YouTube, so I'm not going to say my name there. But through LinkedIn, you will find all of these details. And otherwise, my website is called A-I-Dennis.com, again, with one-end.

So, yeah. And you do not promote tutorials, EU? Tutorials to you, that was my, that's my coding brand. So I have moved away from it, As I said, I'm focusing on the AI side of things. I've been doing this Doril's EU thing for five, six years. And yeah, I just see, like, I didn't want to mix it because AI is also relevant for the average Joe and not just a techie, not just a highly technical person like coders are. So it's different types of mentalities that people have when it comes to that.

So yeah, regarding products, well, I am offering video courses on AI and AI automation. So if you want to become the AI expert in your team, definitely check out my website, Aidennis.com. And yeah, I'm really looking forward to teaching as many people as possible. I love teaching, and I think it's such an amazing opportunity. I'm so glad that I can do it because it's, you know, like if you are, let's say you have a business in mining,

in cobalt mining or whatever, right? So on one hand, you are making the resource available so that humans can do cool stuff with it. But at the same time, usually people who work in minds have poor lives, so you are reducing life quality of people, and at the same time, you're potentially like destroying the environment and so forth, right?

But as an educator, you don't have that problem. That is true. Yeah. And last question, before we finish, is there something that you would like to share, such as any question that I should have asked you ended note or any final piece of wisdom to finish with? I think the conversation was pretty good.

I enjoyed it a lot. And thank you very much for the invite. And I'm really looking forward to seeing the perception of people. I'm also excited to talk to people who watched it. So don't hesitate to connect with me on LinkedIn. Thank you. I really appreciate it as well. I feel like it flew so quickly.

So maybe we can do the sequel in the future again. Yeah, sure. Thank you so much, of course, for joining me. I encourage people to follow you on LinkedIn or even to sign up for any of your tutorials or classes and stuff like that. And wish you all the best. And maybe one last question or request to finish with. If you can say like a goodbye and some stuff actually in Japanese so that we can finish with your Japanese experience, it will be pretty cool. And thank you, Dennis. So mataner, which means basically see you soon.

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