Produced By - Insight #22 - Caitlyn Ebsworthy: The Essence Of Prioritising Passion Over Income
Episode Date: September 15, 2023Caitlyn Ebsworthy is a photographer and videographer specialising in documenting the music industry and professional football. Originally from Devon, Caitlyn relocated to London to attend university a...nd pursue her love of photography and video. Her career has carried her to several countries, including the US and Spain, where she has worked with Broadway performers, label artists, football clubs and academies. Starting with football, we talk about Caitlyn's experience photographing it, the chances she had to visit other countries and the actual procedure. Then we dug a little deeper and looked at the LGBT community's present situation in football as well as Caitlyn's preferred teams and players. After discussing music photography, Caitlyn offered some highlights from her experience photographing performers that would make most of us envious. If you happen to be a musician planning a tour, Caitlyn is a person to get in touch with. Even if it’s tomorrow. Listen to this episode to learn about numerous topics related to the football scene, receive an introduction to shooting both football and music and be motivated by Caitlyn's positive attitude. Connect with Caitlyn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlyn-ebsworthy-97a5751b3/ https://www.caitlynebsworthy.com/ https://twitter.com/C_Ebsworthy https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVRfTqLn2-24_ISMwYKo9UQ?view_as=subscriber Topics discussed: Introduction Football photography Creativity in football photography Football photography process Free time while shooting Football in Spain Favourite teams and players Football and LGBT Work fails Getting jobs Music photography Career highlights Dream projects Follow Caitlyn Quotes from the episode: “I would take the art over the money every single time.” “The priority has to be, what's the settlement here? What am I getting from this? If it's like I get to shoot my favourite artist over going to stand in a rainy stadium, then I'm probably going to pick the artist.” “You got to pick your battles in terms of free work and stuff.” “I just love music photography. I love everything about it. I love the fact that I can't sleep for hours after because I get the same adrenaline rushes as artists probably do because it's just so fast-paced, so intense and then it's calm and you're still coming off that buzz.” Connect with the podcaster: https://tomasloucky.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomasloucky/ https://www.instagram.com/thisistommen/ https://twitter.com/TomasLoucky Follow the podcast: 🌐 Website: https://produced-by-podcast.com/ 🔗 Links: https://linktr.ee/produced_by 💬 Contact: https://produced-by-podcast.com/contact 📷 Instagram: https://instagram.com/produced_by_podcast 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT5LHnM6YCaeVzIr0WatOsw 🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@producedbypodcast ✉️ Email: podcast.produced.by@gmail.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/produced-by/id1684669642 🎙️ About Produced By Podcast: Produced By brings you exciting stories of brave people who set out to build careers in competitive fields despite often challenging circumstances. Whether you are interested in creative industries, personal development or want to have some fun, enter the spotlight along with our guests and get inspired. Listen to people coming from all parts of the world, diverse fields of expertise and different levels of careers. So join us to follow their journeys, learn from life experience and embark on a great adventure. 🤩 If you enjoy listening to the podcast, please, leave a review on your podcast app, subscribe or share it with your friends. You can also send us a message and share any feedback, advice and tips for guests. 📭 Subscribe at https://produced-by-podcast.com/subscribe so that you don't miss out! Connect with Tomas:X: https://x.com/TomasLouckyStan: https://stan.store/TommenLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomasloucky/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisistommen/Unproduced:Newsletter: https://unproduced.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@unproducednotesSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033Ddo8ibDlLYoaP7FFLIWMore:Links: https://linktr.ee/produced_byNewsletter: https://producednewsletter.substack.com/The Podcast Club: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/25420030/Tools & gear that support the show:Metricool: https://f.mtr.cool/HRJBZKRiverside: https://riverside.sjv.io/vDnDodFavikon: https://www.favikon.com?fpr=tommenRa Optics: https://ra-optics.myshopify.com/discount/TOMMEN?rfsn=8803777.591d19JamX: https://jamx.ai/podcasters-offer?ref_id=e02d48af-ef66-4e76-b804-c2e8d282a8bfSome links are affiliate links, which means I may earn a small commission at no extra cost to you. If you find them useful, using these links helps keep the podcast running. Thank you! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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I wonder how does it work with you finding job?
Do you apply for it?
Does someone get to you or do you have like a manager or what is it like?
I wish I had a manager.
I wish I had an agent.
That would be really good.
One day.
One day, that would be less.
To football, it is at the moment like I just get a message from Georgia, for a managhan.
He's like, these dates, you free.
Can you come to this part of Spain?
And that's great.
He's like, how much is going to cost?
Yes, that's fine.
Fire out.
Sometimes you get a few DMs on Instagram.
Instagram obviously is one of the best tools you can use, especially you can do it properly.
I think I do it okay, Instagram, but I could probably, I don't know, I'm not massively keen on having my mug all over Instagram, so I kind of just keep it to my work, but some people really utilize that social media well.
And then music is really varied.
Music is really, really varied.
Again, you might get people reach out to you, you're reaching out to bands.
A lot of the time it's spending days on and just email management, being like, do you?
You need a tour photographer and then you'll get no emails back after sending like 20.
Yeah, it's quite a slog, really.
I'm in that really weird middle stage where I will get work and then I'm like, okay, well,
I've had nothing this month, so that's fun.
It's just like a really weird in-between stage at the moment.
Is it also sometimes that maybe you have too many and do you need to pick between?
Yeah, sometimes I have actually picked doing work free in terms of like when I want to shoot an artist for a publication, for example,
and I've sometimes picked that over a paid job for a day
because if it's someone I really, really want to photograph,
like really want to pick.
When I strip everything away,
I like to think that I'm an artist,
and to me, the art is the most important thing.
For football, it feels more like a job,
but for the music, it feels like art for me,
and the opportunity is there to shoot someone,
like, you know, that's a bucket list, you know, artist.
I would take the art over the money,
every single time. People probably listen to this like, oh, of course you do. But like, no,
seriously, I would pick the art over the money every time because why else would I do this?
If it wasn't the creative people, I'm in that position. I'm okay, I can do that. But sometimes
the priority has to be, what's the settlement here? What am I getting from this? And if it's like,
I get to shoot my favourite artist over, I don't know, stand in a rainy stadium, then I'm probably
going to pick the artist. For some people, they're probably just like, why are you doing?
But yeah, I'd like to think I'm a really cool artist.
So with the art, is it again shooting for promotion, like social media, or is it music videos?
So for music photography, I do a little bit of music photography.
I consider myself more of a music photographer.
Again, like I said, I can shoot video like I do with a little bit of music in photography.
That is really a vast landscape that I work in.
Sometimes festivals reach out for a tune, you shoot for a festival for their social media,
for their websites, for their advertising, all of that.
Sometimes it's an artist.
Sometimes I shoot regularly for publications for free
to gain portfolio, to gain networking opportunities.
And then that'll be for their website.
It's such a vast, like,
I've shot for bandcording Glorious,
who are currently on hiatus,
and they obviously paid for me to come and shoot them stuff.
And my photos on the back of a vinyl,
which is insane in HMB.
That's a crazy thing to feel, you know?
that's really, so the work very, very, depending on what it is.
But again, a lot of the time it's social media really rules the roots in terms of content
creation, I think.
And yeah, it's really varied, really, really varied.