Produced By - Insight #24 - Zeke Downes: Experience Of Working As A Logger Not Only At Wimbledon

Episode Date: September 29, 2023

Zeke Downes is a runner and logger from London who loves sports, especially football, and is currently working as a runner on an undisclosed television production. Originally from Norwich, Zeke reloca...ted to London to attend university and follow his interests in TV dramas and documentaries. We talked about what it was like to pursue a degree in television, why he picked this programme over the one in film and specifics about his university projects. While still in school, he had the opportunity to work as a logger at Wimbledon and he proceeded to do so on a number of other projects as well as at a few sporting events as a runner. In addition, we discussed Zeke's deep interest in sports, particularly football, including his favourite teams, players and his biggest hobby, collecting football shirts. Listen to this episode to discover more about Zeke's logging job, find out why he travelled to Wales for his final university project and get inspired and his profound passion for collecting football jerseys.    Connect with Zeke: ⁠https://linktr.ee/knockemdownes⁠ ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/zeke-downes-a4a85725a/⁠   Topics discussed: Introduction Education During covid Studying TV University projects Working as a logger Working as a runner Future plans Advice Football Collecting football jerseys Documentaries    Quotes from the episode: “It was my very first TV job and for the first two or three days I hated it. It was horrible as I didn't have a clue what I was actually doing and everyone else there had already been there and done it for years. But then after a few days, I loved it.” “It was a really, really awesome experience and something completely different. It made me think that I would much rather do running.” “There's always luck involved but you often have to make your own luck because people don't need to help you. You sort of need to help yourself in a way. “ “It's just awesome to combine different hobbies because I also love football, photography, camera work, media, everything. So it is great to just combine everything.“ Connect with the podcaster: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tomasloucky.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomasloucky/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thisistommen/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/TomasLoucky⁠⁠ Follow the podcast: 🌐 Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://produced-by-podcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🔗 Links: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/produced_by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   💬 Contact: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://produced-by-podcast.com/contact⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📷 Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://instagram.com/produced_by_podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  🎥 YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT5LHnM6YCaeVzIr0WatOsw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  🎵 TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@producedbypodcast⁠⁠⁠  ✉️ Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠podcast.produced.by@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/produced-by/id1684669642⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎙️ About Produced By Podcast: Produced By brings you exciting stories of brave people who set out to build careers in competitive fields despite often challenging circumstances. Whether you are interested in creative industries, personal development or want to have some fun, enter the spotlight along with our guests and get inspired. Listen to people coming from all parts of the world, diverse fields of expertise and different levels of careers. So join us to follow their journeys, learn from life experience and embark on a great adventure. 🤩 If you enjoy listening to the podcast, please, leave a review on your podcast app, subscribe or share it with your friends. You can also send us a message and share any feedback, advice and tips for guests. 📭 Subscribe at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://produced-by-podcast.com/subscribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ so that you don't miss out! #producedbypodcast #producedby #enterthespotlight  Enjoy! Connect with Tomas:X: https://x.com/TomasLoucky⁠⁠⁠Stan: https://stan.store/TommenLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomasloucky/⁠⁠Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisistommen/⁠⁠Unproduced:Newsletter: https://unproduced.substack.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@unproducednotesSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033Ddo8ibDlLYoaP7FFLIWMore:Links: https://linktr.ee/produced_by⁠⁠⁠Newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://producednewsletter.substack.com/⁠The Podcast Club: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/25420030/Tools & gear that support the show:Metricool: https://f.mtr.cool/HRJBZKRiverside: https://riverside.sjv.io/vDnDodFavikon: https://www.favikon.com?fpr=tommenRa Optics: https://ra-optics.myshopify.com/discount/TOMMEN?rfsn=8803777.591d19JamX: https://jamx.ai/podcasters-offer?ref_id=e02d48af-ef66-4e76-b804-c2e8d282a8bfSome links are affiliate links, which means I may earn a small commission at no extra cost to you. If you find them useful, using these links helps keep the podcast running. Thank you!  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Coming back to your first job, as you said, you worked in a sport. Can you tell us more about the job, what we're actually doing? Yeah, so I was doing logging. I'm not sure whether you know about logging. Can you please introduce it for people who don't know? Yes, so logging was what I was actually doing at Wimbledon and logging is basically typing down everything that is actually happening on the screen. So it's more down the lines of editing, and it's basically to help the editor's life to be easier.
Starting point is 00:00:40 And we were there watching the live matches, and then what we were logging was then being used for the highlights. So we would basically rate everything and write down who was playing in the game, what shop they did, give it a rating out of five, all of these different. things and it was quite hard because it was live. I had to be on it that whole time and it was obviously my very first TV job. So the first two or three days I hated it. It was horrible as I didn't have a clue what I was actually doing and everyone else there had already been there and done it for two or three years. But then after the first two or three days, I loved it. And I was there for the two weeks doing that. And that was then what helped me. When I then graduated, that was what then got me the jobs. So just trying to imagine how does it work.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Are you actually somewhere near the court by the laptop and riding? Or what is it like? It's actually that, yes. We were in our own pods and we'd have two screens. One would be where you're logging on and it's software called IP Director, and then next year you would have the live feed, and that was live transmitted from the actual cameras. As it was happening, we were then logging it down. And then after the match, we'd then email it off to the director and make a list of all of the best shots in the game and all that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:28 So are you basically trying to get as much information? formation as possible or trying to pick what you consider to be important? You actually have to write absolutely everything. Don't even stop riding. Near enough, yeah. And matches can last between one hour, three hours, four hours. So if you're one of the more experienced ones, they will then give you the harder games. So like the actual final.
Starting point is 00:02:58 and that is normally, because you've got two really good players, that then normally lasts even longer. You've then got to be there for probably four hours odd and typing non-stop. And afterwards, you're just exhausted because you're typing there the whole time. But yeah, I love it though. Yeah, I'm trying to imagine, I'm not going to lie,
Starting point is 00:03:24 I didn't really know that there is a trip like this. No, I mean, no one really does. I do have to sort of explain it to everyone because one realizes that it's actually a thing because we weren't taught about it at all. I didn't really know what it was until I then did it. But I wonder if you write basically everything, isn't it then too much information to process to go through?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Wouldn't it be more efficient just... I understand it's difficult, but to pick maybe the highlights or what is the most important? Yeah, I would think that, yes, but they just wanted absolutely everything as they don't know how long each highlight will actually be and you don't know what's really going to happen in that match. As it is live,
Starting point is 00:04:13 it isn't like you can look through this recorded clip already and loggers have to log everything. And also like the actual time codes of them, every single thing you have to write it, all in and then the editor knows exactly where everything is.

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