Realfoodology - 71: How to Detox and Get Rid of Parasites with Mary Darnall Part 2
Episode Date: December 15, 2021Mary Darnall is a Certified Nutritional Therapist and you may know her as the Healing Cave Lady on instagram. We dive into detoxification pathways, how to know if yours are blocked, the signs and symp...toms of parasites, how to find out if you have one and how to get rid of them! This is a two part episode so be sure to listen in order. Check Out Mary: https://www.instagram.com/healingcavelady/ https://www.healingcavelady.com/ https://www.healingcavelady.com/supplements Show Links: BioLight red light therapy https://www.biolight.shop/ coupon code HCL (no flicker affordable red light therapy) Multi pure water filter https://www.multipure.com/ Aquatru water filter https://www.aquatruwater.com/ Cellcore Para kit add bowel moverhttps://cellcore.com/products/para-kit http://www.healingcavelady.com/blog/2020/11/4/full-moon-cleanse Detox pathway Course, with enema videos with Para cleanse instructions https://healingcavelady.vipmembervault.com/products/courses/view/1107704 CBD for night time drink https://healingcavelady.square.site/product/cbdsolv/18?cs=true&cst=custom Hydrogen water maker https://www.promolife.com/?a_aid=HCL
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                                         Hey, welcome back to another episode of the Real Foodology Podcast. I am your host, Courtney Swan.
                                         
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                                         And I also want to say this too, for people listening, I feel like, um, for people that
                                         
                                         don't have an understanding of
                                         
                                         parasites, it sounds really creepy and scary and gross. And it is, but also like they're way more
                                         
                                         common than I think people realize. And it's not as like, Oh my God, you have a parasite. Like,
                                         
    
                                         you know what I, do you know what I mean? Like, I just feel like everyone's like, ah, and I'm like,
                                         
                                         I mean, it's a big deal. You want to get it out, but it's not like life or death kind of thing in
                                         
                                         the sense of like, don't freak out.
                                         
                                         Just do the protocol and you'll be fine.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Our bodies are full of bugs.
                                         
                                         We have more bacteria, more bugs than we do anything else.
                                         
                                         So it's like they become these symbiotic creatures I would say, I can't even say nine out of 10, because probably
                                         
    
                                         99 out of 100 Americans have more than they should, you know, and it could be in a form of
                                         
                                         a worm. I mean, there's all different kinds. And you get them from everything. People are like,
                                         
                                         I don't eat meat. I can't get parasites. You know, you get them from your feet from walking
                                         
                                         on bare earth. You get them from your pets. If you have a pet, you have a parasite. There's no, no way around it. Um, I mean, I have a dog right next to me,
                                         
                                         you know, you have a pet, you have a parasite. Um, you can get them from literally breathing air,
                                         
                                         um, pinworms, um, their, their eggs are so tiny, they're airborne. You can breathe them in and
                                         
                                         then they get in your body. And like I said, if there's something for them to, most the time, they just pass on through, you know, it's like no problem. But if there's
                                         
                                         something for them to munch on, if you got some undigested food or leaky gut or heavy metals or
                                         
    
                                         whatever's going on, they're going to hang out. So they're going to stick around. Um, and then
                                         
                                         you'll get them from vegetables, sushi, raw meat, cooked meat. I mean, there are parasites that are resistant to even
                                         
                                         being cooked, you know, get them from pork is huge. Um, most of the American pork situation
                                         
                                         is not so great. And a lot of the bugs are resistant to even heat. So even if the pork
                                         
                                         is cooked, but it's undercooked pork, it's like you're guaranteed to grab something from that.
                                         
                                         But yeah. Um, if you stare at fish, raw sushi long enough, you'll start seeing things move.
                                         
                                         This is why I don't eat sushi. I read about this a couple of years ago and I was like,
                                         
                                         you know what? It's just not worth it to me. There, there are some people, I have some friends
                                         
    
                                         that love sushi so much that they're like willing to take the risk. I w I won't do it anymore just
                                         
                                         because there's too much of a risk for parasites. And also, I will say this too, this is an argument for if you eat pork,
                                         
                                         I mean, I would say this for every meat, but especially for pork,
                                         
                                         this is why eating organic pasture-raised is so important,
                                         
                                         because they're not going to be as rampant with the parasites.
                                         
                                         They aren't because they're not sick.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         And when they're loaded with heavy metals and toxins they come in and pork is
                                         
    
                                         like a pig is like the only animal that like doesn't sweat it locks in all of its toxins
                                         
                                         it doesn't have the same yeah and that's why like back in the olden days jews you know wouldn't eat
                                         
                                         them because they considered them like filthy animals because they couldn't sweat they couldn't
                                         
                                         you know they couldn't detox you know it's like they couldn't get the stuff out. So what you feed that animal is, I mean, if it's eating glyphosate, corn, and it's sick, and, you know,
                                         
                                         I think we have a little bit too far into that.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         So bad.
                                         
                                         So pasture-raised, heritage, know where you're getting it from.
                                         
    
                                         I think that's huge.
                                         
                                         I buy from a butcher.
                                         
                                         We know what farm it's from.
                                         
                                         It's like, yeah, that's not something.
                                         
                                         It's like if I'm going to enjoy some bacon once in a while it's going to be from you know a good place um so what
                                         
                                         so all kinds of food whether it's raw vegetables cooked vegetables you can breathe it in swimming
                                         
                                         in lakes and streams you get from that you can also get it from your drink your
                                         
                                         municipal drinking water if you're drinking tap water, you have parasites.
                                         
    
                                         Birds crap in those tanks.
                                         
                                         I didn't even think about that. They're legit. All the time.
                                         
                                         And once in a blue moon,
                                         
                                         they test the water and they'll be like,
                                         
                                         oh, we've got high amounts of E. coli.
                                         
                                         Boil water alert. Dude, if you tested that
                                         
                                         every day, you would have a boil water alert.
                                         
                                         Because birds crap in those tanks.
                                         
    
                                         And they have worms.
                                         
                                         Get a water filter. And then it goes filter into your water a good water filter yeah like a berkey not yeah like not like something that like
                                         
                                         not a brita filtered down to the yeah not nothing with granule carbon i'm not a huge fan of berkeys
                                         
                                         either but oh you're not wait tell me more Okay, so only because they're just really prone to mold and bacteria just by design.
                                         
                                         Don't worry about that, too.
                                         
                                         If you are constantly cleaning your burpee, like if you go out of town for two days, you have to take the filters out, you have to put them in the fridge, otherwise they're going to start growing mold.
                                         
                                         If you have houseplants, like you have houseplants behind you, if it's in a room with houseplants, there is mold in your houseplant dirt and fungus, and it's just blowing around in the
                                         
                                         air.
                                         
    
                                         If you have an air doctor going, it's grabbing stuff, it's blowing everywhere.
                                         
                                         It ends up in your tank, and then it breathes.
                                         
                                         And I've had so many clients that literally, they're like, oh, I have a really good water
                                         
                                         filter.
                                         
                                         I have a Berkey.
                                         
                                         And then we tested them, and they had all this fungi and all this mold issues.
                                         
                                         And then I was like, well, let's just put you on distilled water or
                                         
                                         reverse osmosis water just for a couple of weeks and see if some of the stuff clears up. And it
                                         
    
                                         did. So I was like, dang. And they were like, we drink tons of water, you know? And I'm like,
                                         
                                         how often are you cleaning it? Maybe run ozone in it. And it just gets to the point,
                                         
                                         it's just too high maintenance. It's not that, you know, just too high maintenance and people
                                         
                                         don't do the maintenance. How do you feel about that?
                                         
                                         There's another one called, I'm going to mess this up.
                                         
                                         I know actually Tyler Jean has one of these, Aqua.
                                         
                                         What's it called?
                                         
                                         I have one.
                                         
    
                                         You do.
                                         
                                         Do you recommend those?
                                         
                                         I do.
                                         
                                         It's reverse osmosis.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         And I've tested, so I've taken like even like a TDS meter and tested the water before and after.
                                         
                                         So before, like our water
                                         
                                         is very loaded with arsenic, all kinds of crap in Arizona. It tested pesticides. It tested a 900
                                         
    
                                         TDS before it was clean. And after it was like a three, like, so it literally took everything out
                                         
                                         of it. And when I poured, I did the Coke trick when I poured the Coca-Cola in there and it came out clear and clean, like with zero T like almost no TDS.
                                         
                                         I was like, dang, that's legit.
                                         
                                         If you poured that into a Berkey, it's going to come out brown.
                                         
                                         You know, it's not.
                                         
                                         I heard it doesn't with the Berkey, but I haven't tested it out because I didn't want to get Coke in my filter.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
    
                                         Because then you're having like pesticides and stuff.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I did it.
                                         
                                         I did it right before I changed mine out.
                                         
                                         So I was thinking the same thing.
                                         
                                         I was like, I don't want everything running through there after that.
                                         
                                         But, I mean, for me, the Berkey was more of, like, I had too many clients that had them, and I don't want a dog company.
                                         
                                         It's, like, it really comes down to maintenance.
                                         
                                         No, it's interesting.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It really comes down to maintenance, and it becomes, it's sitting at room temperature.
                                         
                                         Things aren't constantly flowing, so it has a tendency that's why aqua true has people complain about the small tank
                                         
                                         well the reason they do a small tank is because they want water to constantly moving through it
                                         
                                         if it had a large tank and it had a large reservoir then water would be sitting still
                                         
                                         for too long and it would start to harbor bacteria and stuff like that so if things
                                         
                                         are moving you don't harbor um so yeah i love that especially for people that don't know if they're permanently
                                         
                                         going to be somewhere and they want something to sit on the countertop um it's good if you want
                                         
    
                                         something that's plumbed like if you're like i'm gonna live here i can drill a hole um i use
                                         
                                         something called a multi-peer because their nsf certifications have always been the best out of
                                         
                                         every other filter on the market and i'm always like multi-peer data yeah I'm always looking
                                         
                                         at data um so I'm putting one of those in my because I'm doing a kitchen model right now
                                         
                                         remodel right now so I'm going to have them two spouts plump and it's going to go to my fridge
                                         
                                         filter it's going to go through my fridge I don't have a fridge filter it's going to go through my
                                         
                                         fridge that way and it's going to make my ice so that everything's filtered in the whole entire kitchen.
                                         
                                         So I just put two in, but, um, but yeah, so those two have been my favorite and I felt the best
                                         
    
                                         drinking the water. Like I'm really quick on like, if something, you know, doesn't make me feel good,
                                         
                                         I catch on really quickly if I'm drinking water. It was contaminated. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, totally.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         I feel like that's so sensitive.
                                         
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                                         Okay, so parasites. So now we understand where we can find them. Again, I want to keep hammering
                                         
                                         this in because I just feel like people get so freaked out. I don't want everyone to feel like
                                         
                                         now you can't eat sushi and you're scared to swim places. It's just a part of being a human. Like we just, we live with bugs and parasites
                                         
                                         and everything else. And it's all about the awareness and understanding, um, how to pinpoint
                                         
    
                                         those signs and symptoms of when you have one that's affecting your health and what you can do
                                         
                                         about it. So what are some of the symptoms that people might experience when they have a parasite? People are going to freak out because it's so big. So migraines, anything that toxicity does.
                                         
                                         So migraines, headaches, brain fog, joint pain, joint pain is huge. I've had people that legit
                                         
                                         were diagnosed with fibromyalgia and other, you know, joint quote unquote diseases that once they
                                         
                                         started parasite cleansing it completely, I can't say reversed it because it was a misdiagnosis, right?
                                         
                                         Like they had so much pain and so much inflammation that they got diagnosed with something that
                                         
                                         it went away.
                                         
                                         Um, so, um, that's huge rashes of all kinds.
                                         
    
                                         Um, all so much histamine response, um, mast cell activation is triggered typically from
                                         
                                         mold or parasites or both. Um,
                                         
                                         so people that have mast cell activation and CAS, um, which could be dizziness, vertigo, um,
                                         
                                         chronic hives, rashes, you know, sneezing, like all of the histamine stuff. And then of course
                                         
                                         they can't eat any of the high histamine foods because of that. But all of that went away for
                                         
                                         me. I used to have that. Um, so gosh, what else? Teeth grinding is
                                         
                                         huge. Oh, sure. Yeah. Teeth grinding, low belly bloat. Um, you can be bloated in weird places,
                                         
                                         like a high belly bloat, just depending on where the parasites are. Um, and then, um, anal itching
                                         
    
                                         is a telltale sign. You have an itchy bum, like that's huge for for kids if they say they go to bed at night and
                                         
                                         say my bum itches like my daughter did one time and then of course i have a bioenergetic testing
                                         
                                         machine i can test her right out i'm like oh my gosh it's tapeworm yuck are those the ones you
                                         
                                         want to nip in the bud right away you know it's like you want to nip those in the bud um but
                                         
                                         anal itching and teeth grinding are huge um for but like, it's literally every symptom of the book because toxins
                                         
                                         cause all of the symptoms and, um, and specific parasites like the anal itching, teeth grinding,
                                         
                                         weird moving skin rashes and eczema and things like that. Um, I feel like insatiable hunger
                                         
                                         can be connected to that as well. That and, um, or never hungry, oh yeah it's like they're always bloated they're not hungry
                                         
    
                                         like just weird um sexual cravings in general like crazy cravings because you could like i said
                                         
                                         you can eat the healthiest food they're going to eat the nutrients and then they're going to leave
                                         
                                         toxins as a byproduct yeah um so night waking like waking up zinging at like 2am, 3am, 4am, like just not being able to
                                         
                                         sleep, um, itching in different places. You probably have more. I feel like you have more
                                         
                                         things that I'm missing. Like I see it in your eyes. No, I was just trying to think of, um,
                                         
                                         cause I actually recently, I was actually, I was trying to remember the symptoms I had. Cause
                                         
                                         you know, what's interesting. I just recently had a parasite and I'm blanking on what it was. I should have pulled up the email
                                         
                                         before I had a parasite and E. coli at the same time. And I was like, wow. Okay. Um, and I had,
                                         
    
                                         I mean, my poor listeners is going to be TMI, but I, nothing is TMI to me. I was going back and
                                         
                                         forth between having diarrhea and being constipated. And then I was so nauseous and then like couldn't really eat.
                                         
                                         Um, and those were kind of, yeah, I guess those were like my main things.
                                         
                                         It was really like, I was like something, something is happening down here and I couldn't
                                         
                                         really pinpoint it.
                                         
                                         And then that's when I was like, okay, I've got, cause at first it was, you know, the
                                         
                                         first couple of days and I was like, oh, I don't know, like whatever.
                                         
                                         I was just in Colorado.
                                         
    
                                         And then I finally went and got a stool test done and they were basically like, wow, you have E. coli. I was like, what? And some sort of parasite. And you know what I was
                                         
                                         doing was, um, mimosa pudica, which really helped me. They also put me on flagel, which I know is
                                         
                                         like really intense, but it was E. coli and I didn't want to mess around with it. Um, and I
                                         
                                         ended up having to go on an antibiotic, which I was really bummed about, but again, E. coli and I didn't want to mess around with it. Um, and I ended up having to go on an antibiotic, which I was really bummed about, but again, E. coli, you don't want to mess with that.
                                         
                                         Um, but yeah, it was interesting. Um, so what are, what are tests that people can take when
                                         
                                         they suspect they might have a parasite or first and foremost, I guess, um, what kind of doctor
                                         
                                         would you look for to test for that? Because I feel like a lot of people would go to their like conventional doctor and the
                                         
                                         doctor's not going to have any idea.
                                         
    
                                         They won't test you.
                                         
                                         They won't even, they won't even run a test.
                                         
                                         Very few stool analysis.
                                         
                                         So, you know, there's a couple comprehensive stool analysis like Genest or Genova has one.
                                         
                                         None of them are very good at picking them up.
                                         
                                         Honestly, there is like a test that I
                                         
                                         had like some NBA player wife get and where they like take the stool and they literally like grow,
                                         
                                         let things grow. Like, Oh, like it was really expensive. Yeah. It was a really expensive test
                                         
    
                                         and it found some of the ones that she had, but not even all of them. And I can't remember what
                                         
                                         that test was, but like the everyday human doesn't get that test. Cause it's like $1,200 or something crazy. I was like, I've never even heard
                                         
                                         of that. She's like, Oh yeah, they take it and spread it out and put it in them and it grows.
                                         
                                         And then they see what grows and they see if there's any, and I was like, wow, I've never
                                         
                                         even heard of that. Um, but most pretty sick and desperate to want to do that. Yeah. But the thing
                                         
                                         is, if you assume that you're going to have parasites, it's like it's cheap enough and non-invasive enough to just do little cleanses every so often just to keep diagnose. Okay. Um, because the United States
                                         
                                         says that for one, you have to be a doctor and for two, um, you have to use specific types of
                                         
                                         testing that are considered approved for diagnosis. Okay. Um, how bioenergetic testing works is it is
                                         
    
                                         matching the frequencies in your body. So hold on to two copper probes and it's running frequencies
                                         
                                         through your body. And whenever it finds resonance, meaning we found a match that is there. Okay. So if I see
                                         
                                         like my daughter is itching her bum and I test her and it says she has tapeworm and an amoeba
                                         
                                         and a protozoa or whatever, those are there because you can't match something that doesn't
                                         
                                         exist basically. So in every other country in the world, this is what they use. And this is what
                                         
                                         doctors use. You go to the doctor's office. I had somebody who came and saw me from Kenya. It just, oh yeah,
                                         
                                         they use this at my naturopath doctors in Kenya. And that's, this is what they use to diagnose and
                                         
                                         treat everything. It's like in the United States, you can't, you know? So as a practitioner, all I
                                         
    
                                         could see was that I could see those things and I'd say, might be a good idea if we did a little
                                         
                                         para cleansing, you know, and then I would test them later and then they're not there, you know.
                                         
                                         And the goal is not to eradicate everything because if you have some of those things, they might need to be there.
                                         
                                         But it's the opening of the detox pathways first.
                                         
                                         I always tell people, it's like, you know, it doesn't have to be a scary thing. open your detox pathways and your body can drain those toxins and get rid of the things that
                                         
                                         are causing them to overgrow, then your body's fixing the problem. And then you're just cleaning
                                         
                                         house. So like I do a parasite cleanse every full moon, not every full moon, but most full moons,
                                         
                                         because naturally our bodies have less serotonin and melatonin during a full moon, just for
                                         
    
                                         whatever reason that we're designed, we have less melatonin and less serotonin and melatonin during a full moon just for whatever reason that we're designed. We have less
                                         
                                         melatonin and less serotonin. They actually
                                         
                                         eat our melatonin and serotonin.
                                         
                                         So they make us depressed
                                         
                                         and that's why we can't sleep well.
                                         
                                         They eat those hormones as
                                         
                                         like, yeah, lunch.
                                         
                                         So think about that. People are like, they're being
                                         
    
                                         put on antidepressants and sleep pills
                                         
                                         because they have parasites.
                                         
                                         You know? And that's not addressing a root have parasites, you know, like, and that's
                                         
                                         not addressing a root cause. How many people are like, I can't sleep. Yeah. I can't sleep. And I'm
                                         
                                         sad all the time. And it's something's chemically wrong. Yeah. Something's chemically wrong. Those
                                         
                                         parasites are eating them up. So when those during full moon, when those things are low,
                                         
                                         the parasites will actually go to the gut to feed. So that's the best time to kill them
                                         
                                         is because I give people the mimosa pudka,
                                         
    
                                         which is, we call it pair one.
                                         
                                         It actually snags them.
                                         
                                         So it doesn't actually kill them.
                                         
                                         It almost like strangles them and drags them out, okay?
                                         
                                         So, and then there's another product
                                         
                                         that actually kills things
                                         
                                         and will kill things in other places
                                         
                                         than just the intestines, like full body.
                                         
    
                                         Because we get them, they go everywhere, you know.
                                         
                                         And then that mimosa pudica will just drag them out.
                                         
                                         And then I give them something that's called a binder.
                                         
                                         And that sucks up the toxins.
                                         
                                         Because like I said, when a parasite dies, it explodes, right?
                                         
                                         And then there's all those toxins left behind.
                                         
                                         So it grabs out the toxins.
                                         
                                         And then you take something to keep the bowels flushing, you know.
                                         
    
                                         So it's like a full kind of system and it works, you know, you buy one kit, but then it works for like, you know, seven times.
                                         
                                         You know, it's not like, oh, you have this for three days and it's over.
                                         
                                         You can share it with a partner or something like that and do it a couple times together.
                                         
                                         But the whole point is just to do a little light housekeeping three days over full
                                         
                                         moon once a month and you're just you know cleansing these critters out and what people
                                         
                                         see in the toilet they freak out because they're like how is that in me because you get these
                                         
                                         there's a room a worm called the rope worm and it's the longest grossest thing and people are
                                         
                                         like did i eat something and it grew this big a ropeworm is actually a symbiotic creature of so we have our intestines and they you know they span like the
                                         
    
                                         lengths of tennis courts right so biofilms are filled are these weird slut i call it like slug
                                         
                                         slime um that happen over time from mold exposure from parasites all these stuff like they shoot out
                                         
                                         the slime and it coats the intestines.
                                         
                                         And things hide in there.
                                         
                                         So parasites hide in there.
                                         
                                         Lime spirit keeps hiding in there.
                                         
                                         Mold hides in there. And then anytime you get nervous or upset or on edge, they start procreating or they start reproducing at this high rate because they think their host is dying.
                                         
                                         It's this crazy phenomenon.
                                         
    
                                         So these biofilms, like when you have the perfect amount of like yeast and bacteria,
                                         
                                         has become this thing called ropeworm.
                                         
                                         It's like a symbiotic creature that creates like a head and a tail.
                                         
                                         It's disgusting.
                                         
                                         So it's really the shed.
                                         
                                         It's like a snake shedding from the inside.
                                         
                                         So when these ropeworms come out, they can be like this set six seven inches long like big long thick things and really it's never started as a worm it was the biofilms with all
                                         
                                         these yeast and organisms that became like this creature you know so um that is wild these these
                                         
    
                                         get drug out of the body and they are full of limeme spherocates. Like my Lyme disease didn't go away until I did like five parasite cleanses.
                                         
                                         And I had been trying to kill it for years.
                                         
                                         Like, and like every time I tried to kill it, it was like, I had such a mass cell reaction
                                         
                                         that like, I literally, I felt like I was on my deathbed every time I tried to kill
                                         
                                         it.
                                         
                                         I'm like, I can't kill it.
                                         
                                         Maybe I just have to live with Lyme forever.
                                         
                                         Nothing's working.
                                         
    
                                         And then I started, I was like, well, I always have parasites.
                                         
                                         Let's just go, let's just do more parasite cleansing. And then I tested
                                         
                                         myself Lyme free for six months now. Like I've done like maybe like nine or 10, you know? So
                                         
                                         over the past two years now I have no Lyme, no brain fog, tons of energy, no lag. I mean, I,
                                         
                                         I used to be addicted to coffee cause I just needed it to just feel like I was alive. And
                                         
                                         then like, now I'm like, now if I drink it, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm like high, you know?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So, yeah, those spirit kits, those lime spirit kits will live in that rope worm.
                                         
    
                                         So until you get it out, like, it's, you know, they just multiply.
                                         
                                         So especially if you're on EMF, which is a whole other beast that we could talk about another time.
                                         
                                         But, yeah, so you'll see crazy things in the toilet come out.
                                         
                                         And the only thing you should be happy is you shouldn't be like, oh my gosh, I had that in me.
                                         
                                         Did it start little and it grew big and it's eating me up?
                                         
                                         And it's like, no, it's like this weird shedding of like this, you know, it's called ropeworm.
                                         
                                         Dr. Clinghart explains exactly that it's a symbiotic creature, blah, blah, blah.
                                         
                                         But they come out and you feel so good because all of a sudden you are less magnetic.
                                         
    
                                         You have less mold in your body. You have less breeding ground for all these things sudden you are less magnetic you have less mold in your
                                         
                                         body you have less breeding ground for all these things that make you sick you have less bloat
                                         
                                         you're bloated at first because everything kind of cups up you probably knew that taking that
                                         
                                         um you bloated at first but then after that goes away you're less bloated you're less
                                         
                                         hungry you're less everything you know it's like a lot of the cravings go away and then you're like
                                         
                                         when's the next people are always like can i do this longer when's the next time can I do this because they
                                         
                                         like feel good after a profession yeah I have professional athletes that do it and they'll be
                                         
                                         like oh my gosh I have less joint pain I feel good I have more energy can I do this again for some
                                         
    
                                         reason men it's so much easier for men to parasite cleanse like they don't have like any side effects
                                         
                                         and like women are like oh my gosh it's so hard and you know it's like but it's just funny how that is it's like but um yeah so I have all walks of life that but they have to open
                                         
                                         their detox pathways first um they have to work on all of those things um I created like a little
                                         
                                         learning module class that I sell inexpensively just walks people through like it has a questionnaire
                                         
                                         are you getting this many hours of sleep are you pooping regularly are you this are you that like and you go through and you're
                                         
                                         like no yes no yes no yes and then it gives you like all these tips on things that you can do to
                                         
                                         work on it until that is all like yes yes yes yes i'm good on all those things and then it has like
                                         
                                         a little detox calendar where you can like go and make goals and things that you can do during the
                                         
    
                                         day just like simple things that's like editable p PDF and like all these videos and detox baths and things that you can incorporate,
                                         
                                         but just really just like the lifestyle of feeling better, you know,
                                         
                                         because you do those things and your detox pathways are open.
                                         
                                         You just feel good.
                                         
                                         And then you're like, bonus, I can do a parasite cleanse on the end.
                                         
                                         It teaches you how to do the parasite cleanse.
                                         
                                         And what is that parasite cleanse you're talking about?
                                         
                                         I know I have the Para One, but what's the brand that makes that stuff?
                                         
    
                                         Cellcor.
                                         
                                         Cellcor.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Cause I'm going to put all this in the show notes for people.
                                         
                                         And I want to, um, I also want to link that, um, spreadsheet that you were talking about,
                                         
                                         the little checklist and want to give people a bunch of different stuff to help them kind
                                         
                                         of, uh, navigate all of this, you know?
                                         
                                         Cause I also feel like, yeah, it's, it's a lot, it's a lot to like learn all of this, you know, because I also feel like, yeah, it's, it's a lot. It's a lot to
                                         
    
                                         like learn all of this and start turning, tuning into your body, looking for signs and symptoms.
                                         
                                         Cause like we were saying earlier, I feel like so many people are moving through the world and
                                         
                                         don't even realize that they're feeling so sick. And I'm hoping by listening to this, maybe people
                                         
                                         can start connecting the dots of like, oh yeah, huh. I am pretty bloated all the time, or I have
                                         
                                         this insatiable hunger or, you know, I have this brain fog and hopefully we can start connecting the dots of like, Oh yeah, huh? I am pretty bloated all the time, or I have this insatiable hunger or, you know, I have this brain fog and hopefully we can start connecting the
                                         
                                         dots of what's going on. Um, cause I just want everyone, I mean, that's my whole prerogative
                                         
                                         with this podcast. I just want everyone to feel good in their bodies and have the energy to do
                                         
                                         the things that they want to do and, and live their lives. Legit. It's a can of worms, no pun
                                         
    
                                         intended. Like it's like like you you start doing those things
                                         
                                         you start doing all those things you're like my goal is to do a parasite cleanse because i want
                                         
                                         to get these things out of my body but in the process of like opening the detox pathways
                                         
                                         drinking water sleeping well you become this like new human that you like never knew that you could
                                         
                                         be and then the parasite i always say the parasite cleanse is the cherry on the cake like some people people are like, I'm going to get this and I'm going to do it next full moon,
                                         
                                         which is two weeks from now.
                                         
                                         And they don't end up doing it for three months because they just start, they're like, oh
                                         
                                         man, I didn't realize I don't sweat.
                                         
    
                                         I need to work on sweating.
                                         
                                         And then they start sweating and they feel good.
                                         
                                         And they're like, well, I can't work out today, but I'm going to do that sweat bath.
                                         
                                         That's, you know, I got that recipe.
                                         
                                         I have the ginger powder.
                                         
                                         I'm going to do that.
                                         
                                         And then they're like, oh my gosh, it felt so good.
                                         
                                         And I had the best sleep.
                                         
    
                                         And they start taking magnesium and they're pooping good. And the whole goal is like, feel good. You know, it's like feel the best,
                                         
                                         like optimal health. And then like, you know, cleaning out the worms. It's just fun. It's just
                                         
                                         like the bonus. But yeah, and showing your friends, taking pictures and videos. Look what's
                                         
                                         in the toilet. Oh my gosh. When you share your worms with a friend, they freak out. They're like, do I have worms? I don't know. Do you have worms? Well, what's that kit you oh my gosh when you share your worms with a friend they freak out they're like do i have worms i don't know do you have worms well what's that kit you have don't
                                         
                                         just go and do it you need to go do all the stuff first you know it just becomes like this fun
                                         
                                         conversation people start talking about health and like all the things that they're doing that
                                         
                                         used to be taboo like talking about your poop and enemas and all of those things and getting
                                         
                                         colonics they're like oh man if i have all those worms up there, maybe I should get some colonics. And then the colonics lady
                                         
    
                                         will go and do colonics after they've done a parasite cleanse. Maybe they didn't clear
                                         
                                         everything out. And then they, the lady sees all the stuff coming out the lit tube and she's like,
                                         
                                         Holy crap, look at all this stuff. You're like, yeah, I just killed all that off. Um, but yeah,
                                         
                                         you know, it's funny that happened to me when I got my colonic, because I got a couple of them when I was dealing with this, like, parasite and E. coli.
                                         
                                         And there was this, like, almost, like, cloudy white, like, I think she called it biofilm.
                                         
                                         And she was like, oh, she goes, are you taking mimosa pudica?
                                         
                                         And I was like, yeah.
                                         
                                         And she was like, I always know because I can see.
                                         
    
                                         She, like, saw it come out.
                                         
                                         And I was like, that is so weird.
                                         
                                         And it drags out everything with it. Like it grabs onto everything.
                                         
                                         So the seed almost looks when it's wet, it almost looks like a worm,
                                         
                                         but it's semi see-through. So once it grabs stuff,
                                         
                                         you'll see these stringy things from within it. And people will be like,
                                         
                                         they'll poop out the most poop and they'll think it's a worm because it's like
                                         
                                         brown and long, but like it's stretchy.
                                         
    
                                         And you'll see like all the lines that come out of it and i'm like those are the actual
                                         
                                         worms it's not like the goo yeah it's like you'll see the things like the strainy things coming out
                                         
                                         of it and they'll almost look like they're intertwined and i'm like that's the actual
                                         
                                         worm that's the mimosa that grabs it because the point is that to pull it out of the intestinal
                                         
                                         lining and then that that binder that you take actually helps heal and
                                         
                                         seals the gut lining. So it has humic and folic acids in it that draws the glyphosate out and
                                         
                                         helps knit up those little holes. So it's almost like you're getting like a repair, like all at
                                         
                                         the same time. Is that in the, the, um, cell core parasite cleanse? I think I want to, I want to do
                                         
    
                                         one of those, even though I feel like I'm in,
                                         
                                         I just did, but I didn't do the full protocol because like I said, because of the E.coli,
                                         
                                         they just immediately put me on antibiotics and I was on flagyl and I was taking the Mimosa
                                         
                                         pudica, but I kind of want to do this whole, like, do you think I should do this like parasite
                                         
                                         protocol? Uh, yes. Okay. I'm going to do that. Literally. Like I have my whole neighborhood on
                                         
                                         it because I'm always talking about it. And I was just like, Oh, if it's a full Okay, I'm going to do that. Literally, like I have my whole neighborhood on it because I'm always talking about it.
                                         
                                         And I was just like, oh, if it's a full moon, I got to get on with my, and it's funny because like most of my friends out here like aren't even into Instagram or anything.
                                         
                                         And they like downloaded the account just so they could like watch me talk about it.
                                         
    
                                         And they're all like, is it a full moon?
                                         
                                         Oh my gosh, we got to go.
                                         
                                         We got to go.
                                         
                                         It's time to climb.
                                         
                                         We got to get parasite stuff.
                                         
                                         Yeah, they're like, and then they're like, should I get Clonix or I need to get an animal bucket.
                                         
                                         Mary, Mary, what animal bucket can I get do you have those do you sell those i'm like
                                         
                                         no i don't sell them like yo give me all the information to order on um but my little my
                                         
    
                                         little course has the enema course built into it so it teaches you how to because if anybody's doing
                                         
                                         parasite cleansing like they need to know how to do an enema i think it's a good thing to know how
                                         
                                         to do because i always tell people if for any reason you get constipated during the cleanse, you have to stop that day. Like if you don't poop,
                                         
                                         you have to stop because you don't want to be killing stuff and then not letting it get out
                                         
                                         of the body. And enema is the perfect emergency. It's like, get it out because you don't want any
                                         
                                         of those things getting backed up. It's like, I'm going to get it out. But like, I love that kit.
                                         
                                         So we do the, it's called the para kit now, P-A-R-A. And then we add bowel mover to it because
                                         
                                         that keeps things going. Um, it also has a little wormwood in it, so it kills a little extra, but,
                                         
    
                                         um, it keeps things moving, but I have all that information and I have like a, um, I have like a
                                         
                                         video that goes through everything, like a YouTube video and then like all the information on ordering
                                         
                                         the kit. But will you send me that stuff afterwards and we'll put it in the show notes that way people can find
                                         
                                         them. Cool. Uh, so before we wrap up, I always like to ask everyone this question. Um, what are
                                         
                                         your health and non-negotiables? These are things that you do either every single day or maybe on
                                         
                                         like a weekly basis that help you to really stay, uh, just in check with your health. And there are
                                         
                                         things that no matter how busy your day is, like you always have to do these things.
                                         
                                         Oh my gosh. Sunrise. So, um, when I moved to Arizona, I specifically picked out a house that
                                         
    
                                         I could watch a sunrise. And I know that's like high maintenance, but I was like, I've always
                                         
                                         lived in a forest. Um, so in mold, but watching the sunrise is huge for me. Like, I mean,
                                         
                                         I miss it like maybe once a week if for some reason I sleep in, but I go outside,
                                         
                                         I watch the sunrise. I, um, gratitude for me is huge. Um, back when I was in mold and I had
                                         
                                         Lyme and all that stuff, I became super, super, super, super depressed. And I remember reading
                                         
                                         the book, um, switch on your
                                         
                                         brain or who switched off your brain by Caroline leaf. Um, and just really training the brain
                                         
                                         towards gratitude, because if you think on anything that's chaos, fear, um, chaos or fear
                                         
    
                                         based, you can let off your brain creates up to, I think it's 1400 chemicals that can actually lead to disease. It can, it can alter
                                         
                                         up to 30 hormones. So just thinking on gratitude in the morning, what you're grateful for, it,
                                         
                                         it lights up pathways that like make you happy. Um, and keep, keep your brain from going down,
                                         
                                         you know, the, the garbage dump that's going to create literally like all of those toxins that
                                         
                                         make you sick. So gratitude in the morning, sunrise in the morning, water in the morning.
                                         
                                         Those are my non-negotiables like on a daily basis.
                                         
                                         But my nighttime non-negotiables are my nighttime routine with my CBD and my magnesium.
                                         
                                         It's like literally if I don't drink that, like I'm not going to get my good sleep and I'm going to feel like crap the next day.
                                         
    
                                         So like I always do.
                                         
                                         I call it my nighttime drink.
                                         
                                         I take my nighttime drink before bed. But yeah, those are kind of my non-negotiables. I have a lot of
                                         
                                         other things that I do, but like, those are like my absolutely have tos. Yeah. I love those. I think
                                         
                                         there's so much conversation around a morning routine and I actually believe the nighttime
                                         
                                         routine is more important because that's, what's going to set you up for success for sleep.
                                         
                                         A hundred percent.
                                         
                                         Like if I literally, I'll be like, oh my gosh, it'll be like 10 o'clock.
                                         
    
                                         I'm laying in bed and I'm like, I didn't drink my nighttime drink.
                                         
                                         Like I'm not, I might night wake.
                                         
                                         I might not get sleep.
                                         
                                         I might not be able to poop tomorrow morning. Like this is bad.
                                         
                                         Like I'll get up, I'll go downstairs and I'll make it.
                                         
                                         Because it's like, I know what the repercussions of like not doing that are going to be.
                                         
                                         And I don't drink hot coffee in the morning.
                                         
                                         So like if I can't poop, my whole day is ruined.
                                         
    
                                         Like it's terrible.
                                         
                                         You got to get it out.
                                         
                                         Yeah, get it out.
                                         
                                         It's better out than in.
                                         
                                         Yes, that's for dang sure.
                                         
                                         Well, this has been so amazing.
                                         
                                         I'm so glad that we connected and I got to bring you on today.
                                         
                                         For everyone listening, where can they find you?
                                         
    
                                         HealingCaveL lady.com.
                                         
                                         Um, I'm on, I'm at healing cave lady on Instagram and my YouTube channel channel is also healing cave lady.
                                         
                                         So it's really easy to find.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Across the board.
                                         
                                         And we'll add all those to the show notes so everyone can find you.
                                         
                                         But thank you so much, Mary.
                                         
                                         This was so fun.
                                         
    
                                         Thank you for having me.
                                         
                                         I love it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Anytime.
                                         
                                         We'll have to do another topic next time. I'm let's do it. Yeah. I want to do. Thank you for having me. I love it. Anytime. We'll have to do another topic
                                         
                                         next time. Let's do it. Yeah. I want to do EMFs next. Yes. Thanks for listening to today's episode
                                         
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