Realfoodology - Are Statins Bad for You? Heart Health, Supplements & Mold Explained

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

271: Clinical pharmacist Dr. John Kim was just 33 years old when a heart attack changed everything he thought he knew about practicing medicine. Today, he’s one of the top functional medicine doctors - and he’s been helping me with my personal detox journey. In part one of two, Dr. Kim joins me to share the truth about cholesterol, prescription medication, and mold. $250 discount on Dr. John Kim's Upcoming Mold Course | https://www.kimwellness.co/realfoodology  Topics Discussed: → Why did Dr. John Kim have a heart attack at age 33? → What are the biggest misconceptions about cholesterol and statins? → Is fish oil actually bad for you? → How does mold exposure affect your health? → What are the best ways to detox from mold naturally?  Sponsored By: → Beekeepers Naturals | Go to www.beekeepersnaturals.com/REALFOODOLOGY or enter code REALFOODOLOGY to get 20% off your order. → Timeline | Timeline is offering 10% off your order of Mitopure Go to www.timeline.com/REALFOODOLOGY. → Manukora | Go to www.manukora.com/REALFOODOLOGY to get $25 off the Starter Kit, which comes with an MGO 850+ Manuka Honey jar, 5 honey travel sticks, a wooden spoon, and a guidebook! → BIOptimizers | For 15% off go to www.bioptimizers.com/realfoodology and use promo code REALFOODOLOGY. → Our Place | Visit www.fromourplace.com/REALFOODOLOGY and use code REALFOODOLOGY for 10% off sitewide. → Vimergy | New customers can save 20% off their first order with the code REALFOODOLOGY at www.vimergy.com.  Timestamps:  → 00:00:00 - Introduction → 00:05:24 - Dr Kim’s Heart Attack at 33  → 00:12:18 - Cholesterol + Statins: Misconceptions  → 00:20:29 - Lifestyle vs. Medication   → 00:24:03 - Quality Concerns: Fish Oil + Supplements   → 00:31:03 - Mold, Lyme, & Microtoxins   → 00:42:55 - Building Cellular Resilience  → 00:52:03 - Supporting Local Farms  → 00:56:38 - Mold Detox Tips   Show Links: → Kim Wellness  Check Out: → Dr. John Kim  → ⁠$250 discount on Dr. John Kim's Upcoming Mold Course | https://www.kimwellness.co/realfoodology Check Out Courtney:  →  LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE →  Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide! →  @realfoodology →  www.realfoodology.com →  My Immune Supplement by 2x4 →  Air Dr Air Purifier →  AquaTru Water Filter →  EWG Tap Water Database Produced By: Drake Peterson

On today's episode of the Real Foodology podcast. It's not just about the labs or how the person is dealing with, but also questioning in terms of why that person is in that state of point. And so how do I actually help that patient properly to get to a baseline of health? Hi, friends. Welcome back to another episode of the Real Foodology podcast. On today's episode, we are kicking off part one of my conversation with Dr. John Kim of Kim Wellness, who also happens to be my personal doctor.

Dr. Kim blends clinical pharmacy with functional medicine to help people heal at the cellular level, addressing everything from mold toxicity to heavy metals and beyond. In this first half, we talk about the heart attack that changed his life at only 33, by the way. And how that experience reshaped the way he helps his patients recover and thrive. Stay tuned next week for Part 2. You won't want to miss it. Also, if you could take a moment to five-star rate and review the podcast, it really, really helps get this show out to more listeners. It takes five seconds.

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I know. I'm so excited. So you are actually my personal doctor. We've been working together for the last couple of months. And I want to, we'll go into that a little bit later. But I want to talk about your story first and how you got started in all of this. you had a heart attack at 33. What were the labs that your alopathic doctors missed

that almost cost your life? Oh my God, yeah. So that is one of the biggest shift of why I'm doing what I'm doing at this point in terms of my overall health issue. And I thought I was living a healthy life and I would go to my doctor's office and get an annual blood check.

I mean, everything routine in terms of getting cholesterol levels and everything was quote-unquote normal. But some of the labs that were completely missed was the fact that I had a very high levels of C-reactive protein. Which is markers of inflammation. Right.

And then high levels of homocysteine on top of that. And then on top of all the inflammatory markers, especially IL-6, right, TNF alpha, multiple things that now I should look at into seeing if the person is actually dealing with some of the chronic inflammatory response issues. And not even just that. It's really looking at the overall intricacy of how the immune system is really functioning. So even as I am, I complete my fellowship training in functional medicine back in 2008, and I work with a lot of patients in dealing with hormones and immune and gut.

But even for me, being a fellowship trained, we didn't really look at that labs either. So I didn't really question until I went to my own issue and having to see, oh my God, there's such a bigger slide of labs that were completely missed that could have actually told a lot of stories. However, there were a lot of tel-tile signs that there was something going on inside me. I always had a gut issue where I actually had severe food sensitivity to rice, beef, scallions. Wow. Yeah, so I couldn't really digest red meat properly. Some numerous times I ended up having to try a different diet, including vegan.

I would only be able to stick with that diet for maybe about a month or two, and it would just cause amounts of bloating and such. And you would think that digestive enzyme is going to fix the problem. It really didn't. It would just put the bandit into the problem. It was still end up having to cause other issues, including heartburn. Very bad breath. There's the underlying sign of gut dysbiosis right there, maybe candida overgrowth,

on top of not able to digest fat properly. And then insomnia, anxiety issues. I had a lot of telltale sign that there was a major problem going on, including cystic acne. But I myself end up having to ignore it. And this is the part that a lot of practitioners go through. We're so good at helping people, but not able to reflect and figuring out what the bigger issue in ourselves and able to question that. I think there's a lot of pride getting into it, but also never stopping to really reflect on our own health. And that's the part that's really changed the trajectory of what I'm doing at this point.

I'm really giving the time to reflect on my own health. But in order for me to be connected better to my clients, I also have to be feeling well as well. And that's the biggest thing that really shifted into where I am. I have that syndrome too. I think a lot of us that get in health and wellness that want to help others, we tend to put ourselves on the back burner. We do. And including our family.

And that's where we need to really learn how to say no in many cases, but also take the time to regular ourselves better. Right. So that's a part that's been really hard when I first started. Now it's much better in that sense. Yeah. So do you think mold exposure was, part of the cause of your heart attack?

It was one of the issues. So after having a heart attack and one of the physician, the physician that actually took care of me, obviously, she wasn't here as a guest here as well. So I was questioning why I actually had a heart attack, right? There was no explanation in terms of how a 33-year-old actually having an 85% blockage in the LAD, the widow maker, having a stamp put in at the age of 33 years old, and then having to say that, oh, you just have to be on statins.

I wanted more answers, right? I know the harm of taking statins. And so coming home, sitting down my couch for about two weeks, trying to figure out what are the ways in terms of getting my health back. And the biggest question is, am I going to have a secondary heart attack? Because that can happen as well, especially when you're 33. If you're going to be looking at just taking medications until you're 67 years old, there's no guarantee that statin is going to prevent secondary heart attacks.

And their data showing that, and we're still utilizing statins. So I knew that data, so I looked to question it, and I just went to my functional medicine doctor and asked, like, can I just get a vitamin D, C drop, dripped on? Because I was very fatigued and just wanted to get my energy back. And she looked at me, she's like, don't you think you have Lyme disease? I'm like, I don't think I do. I've never had a bite to begin with. And after about a month and a half of weight, lab test comes back.

I was positive for Bartonella, which is a tick-borne illness, which is also called a cat-scratch fever, as well as positive levels of mold antibody, aspergillus specifically, Epstein bar, heavy metals, aluminum and mercury levels, very off high. Yeah, so that was another impact on that. And that also caused biofilm to be deposited into the actual pathogen you dealing with. And then I also actually had parasites. So there's a lot of interplay in terms of biotoxin issues that could be one of the things. But one of the things that now, where I am now reflecting back,

there's a lot of other issues I went to play. I actually went through a heavy amount of childhood trauma that caused a lot of issue dealing with not being able to be safe where I was living to begin with. And there are studies now also showing that when children go through, amounts of trauma that causes endless amount of neuroinflammation. So when you talk about neuroinflammation and gut brain access, that also causes your gut to be inflamed. And that becomes an entry point for other endotoxics to get into the gut, end up having to cause microinflammation, and then the whole discussion of inflammation, where inflammation and

aging aspect of it now, the longevity field and looking into it, but there's much bigger than that. now there's entry point of mold and parasites and what it does is actually affects the overall terrain and the resiliency you're able to handle to handle all those outside stressors including more than parasites yeah i also just i want to ask you about this because there's so much misconception there out there about cholesterol do you think cholesterol plays as big of a role in heart attacks and heart disease that we're being told it can be however that's not the main problem at this point. The reason being is there are huge interplay in terms of genetic getting involved as well, lifestyle changes. There's also epigenetic changes that's coming

from use of seed oils. But now when you're looking at the entire impact of the circadian mismatch that goes on because of blue light as well as where persons is not able to get adequate as sunlight. And sun is so important to not only help to produce vitamin D, but also help to normalize fatty ass metabolism. So when you talk about the modern day lifestyle actually happening at this point, the heart disease all related to lifestyle aspect of it. And then the other part is the metabolic disorder where you actually have glucose mismanagement, right? You have metabolic inflexibility that's actually happening right now and in people. So it's all related to poor eating, poor lifestyle, blue light exposure, right? From screens especially, right? The study

showing that blue light exposure actually affects glucose metabolism so i'm just sitting here with my no shame but but there's a lot of interplanters of the environmental impact into where it is so yes gene is one of the things that we always talk about that it is a messenger but and as well as a bullet in that aspect there but that certain things that's going to trigger it is the epigenetic aspect of what you're being exposed to how your lifestyle is what you eat how you handle your health and as was the metabolic aspect is really the important key factor to really play into how your heart disease and as well as a heart attack kind of sure. But for me, it was more in terms of the biotoxone and the stress response accumulating for over the years on top of living in a very moldy house

and not having to impact how my lipid metabolism was being affected. So those are the things that are really the key factors we have to look at. So statins are not going to fix the heart. heart disease issue right end up having to impact more down the line and now we're seeing that statins also affect glp1s so it actually affects your glucose metabolism and then it also cause leptin resistance so there's not a quick fix out there you have to really down into what the root cause issue is how do we get the body back in order and building resiliency so this way you could have to normalize certain things like cholesterol metabolism on top of the metabolic health and getting to the right order that the body is intended to.

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And I know that statins, if you're on statins for a long period of time, it's connected to now dementia and all these, you know, cognitive decline diseases. And yeah, I think it's more sugar than anything else. Sugar is big one. Now they're pointing in terms of that. But also when you're looking at medications as well, when you talk about statins, statins, yes, it actually decreased LDL production, but there's a lot of interplan to nutritional depletion at the same time. You're depleting COQ10, so it's your mitochondrial dysfunction.

So you need mitochondrial function for proper fatty acid metabolism to occur. So you're already blocking that pathway. But the secondary issue that you're done to create is your vitamin K2, which is also interlinked to your microbiome health, that gets decreased. So in itself, you end up having to cause more of a sticky blood, basically, right? Wow, and that's the exact opposite of what you want. And so there are showing, again, statins do not prevent secondary heart attacks. So that's the part.

So lifestyle changes really come into play and doing so. And I don't think there's any low or high dose of statins end up having to be safe in many cases. There are studies showing until taking statin drugs, end up having to cause electrons to be dumped out of mitochondria. So they actually cause mitochondrial dysfunction at the same time. You're also seeing effects of

athletic performances and athletes. So when you talk about a person who's very unhealthy to begin with, end up being on statin drugs, now you're actually impacting greater mitochondrial dysfunction and the long-term data does not look favorable for them. Yeah. Well, this is what

This, I mean, my listeners know this, and you obviously know this, but it's just this is what we've gotten so wrong in the medical system is that we're just treating symptoms with a pill. So, you know, after your heart attack, I'm assuming maybe the first doctor that you saw probably wasn't like, oh, let's look at your diet and lifestyle. Let's run labs. They're just like, oh, you're going to have to be on a statin. Here you go. And they're just throwing a band-aid at you instead of actually looking at what your diet is, what your lifestyle is, what you've been exposed to, what's in your blood, like the mold and everything else that you found. and then we're just throwing this drug on there that is also causing all these other side effects

and then you're being thrown in another drug to counteract those side effects and no one's actually looking at what's going on in the body that's causing all of this. It is. It's mind-boggling into how medicine is being practiced. So my background is pharmacy and being a pharmacist for last almost 20 years

at this point in time, it's taught basically for pharmacy students including medical students at this point, to optimize medication, right? Nothing in terms of related to nutrition or lifestyle. And the reason that I got into the whole side of function of medicine was because when I was doing my ER work for five weeks in the hospital and really looking at how certain patients are going in and out of ER, and I had this one particular patient who had an uncontrollable high blood pressure.

And she was coming into the ER every single week. And what we were doing was basically trying to optimize, basically giving her more medications basically, and trying to lower her blood pressure and getting her out at that morning. But why is she coming back every single week? Why isn't this being talked about? And no one talked about lifestyle.

And a funny thing is, you know, back in 2005, that's when I was doing my ER externship. And at that time, it was JNC7 guideline into how high blood pressure should be treated. And within that first context of that guideline is lifestyle. that's what they talked about in the guideline. Interesting. But it's never talked about in terms of how it should be implemented.

And how it should be practiced, yeah. It's crazy. So I questioned a lot. And I think that's where, in terms of what I'm doing at this point in time, it's not just about the labs or how the person is dealing with, but also questioning in terms of why that person is in that state of point. And so how do I actually help that patient properly to get to a baseline of health? Yeah, exactly.

Was there anybody else when you, you were going through that program, also asking questions like you? Was anybody else going, like, are we, like, how do we get to the root cause of this? Were people asking those kind of questions, like doctors? Not at all. I mean, a lot of doctors, including pharmacists, they're basically in a survival mode, right? In a hospital and trying to do the externship, try to be, you know, kissing their butts to their preceptors and trying to get out. What really helped me understand about inflammation and everything else was when I was following up with this particular integrated pharmacist down in Texas, actually, and he was a quote-unquote integrative in that

sense because at that time, no one talked about inflammation, but he actually was talking about it and talking to his patients, but specifically he was actually recommending fish oil. And I didn't realize fish oil was that powerful. Now, looking back, I'm like, those fish oils wasn't that good of a quality, but that actually really made a point in terms of, all right, there's a lot more interplay into disease states. It's not just about medications alone. There is impact of nutrition and how inflammation end up having to be the root cause issues. But now we know that inflammation, there's also other root cause issues that causing inflammation. So that have to dig in deeper. Yeah. I want to ask you about fish oil because I personally, I have to admit,

I'm still a little bit confused on it because it depends on who you listen to. Either fish oil is really toxic, no matter the sourcing, or it's really good for you and it lowers inflammation. So we hear from one end of the spectrum that it's really good for you. And then there's, you know, like the Paul Saladinos of the world. Love you, Paul. I'm not trying to call you out. But I'm just saying that like, you know, and then Paul Saladino goes out there. And it's not just him. There's a whole, my friends at Seed Oil Scout, they all say that fish oil, no matter what, it's rancid.

It's not good for you. And it's high, what is it high in the oil that they say is not good for you? And I think there's nuance there. It's not linoleic acid. Alpha linoleic. Yes. And also, so there's a bit of truth in that. So when you look at conventional fish oil that you end up having to buy in Costco,

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Okay, yeah. This is why nuance is so important and it gets so lost on social media. and I'm guilty of it too because we just want to get that information out there and you want the hits and the clicks but there's

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It can be. It's not always the de-rute cause, but it is one of the things that are often missed. Here's a reason why. The reason being is a lot of factors are not taught how impactful that mold can be to a human body, especially cellularly. Second, there's not many more literate physicians and practitioners out there, right? And there are special trainings available, specifically Dr. Jill Krista is amazing. I was taught under her and specifically other practitioners at the same time. And third is the intricacy and the confusion of the labs. That's the biggest thing. Now, especially Dr. Schumacher, he was one of the pioneers in talking about chronic infantry response syndrome,

SERS and mold toxic symptoms of impacting that, but in itself, in terms of utilizing different types of heavy biosacresium type of binders, even though that can be helpful, it doesn't really address the underlying issue in terms of the cellular membrane damage that incurs from mold. And so even those type of trainings available, it's not specifically made to really reversing some of the intricacies of mitochondrial dysfunctional person's dealing with. So it's not just about training, but it's also literacy in terms of how the mold impacts the body, but also how to read the lab specifically and at the same time navigating these patients from start to finish.

I think that's the biggest reason why it's often missed. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I feel like mold is one of those. There's a couple of these, like mold and lime, for example, I would put those in the same category where they're actually really affecting a lot of people. but the mainstream allopathic medical system they kind of want to act like they don't exist and I believe it's more so because they don't really understand it

and they don't know how to treat it and so they're just kind of like, oh, we're just going to act like this doesn't really exist and everyone's crazy. But as someone who has experienced it myself, also I have a very good friend who has, well, actually I have two friends, one being my godmother that I've known my whole life

that got Lyme when I was a kid and I've just seen her struggle, her whole life. She's really struggled with it. And so it's definitely not one of those things that's in someone's head. But I think the problem is that so many people don't know how to actually treat it. And this is why you and I started working together is because I got a diagnosis of Babesia, which you can explain what that is. It's kind of like a co-factor of Lyme.

Is that what you would explain it as? It is a parasitic infection that's actually coming from tick bite specifically. But Babesia actually caused a lot more issue in terms of causing an intracellular. infection, right? So it's very hard to deal with cleaning out, but also you talk about biofilm aspect that really fills up. And there's an interplay of immune dysregulation that's actually caused by those pathogens, actually cause other issues of inflammation. And so when you're talking about mold getting impacted at the same time, actually plays around together. More that actually suppress the immune system, right? It caused mitochondrial dysfunction

again. And then the sensing of how the immune is supposed to be, helping to clean these some of the infections out, basically is blunted. So you actually are very having much of a tough time to clean these things out. And it becomes very much of an issue. So when you have all the multiple issues, including parasites, heavy metals and different biotoxin issues, including environmental toxins like glyphosates, heavy metals and such, it becomes even more difficult to navigate these clients correctly. Which I also have high levels of glyphosate, which actually we need to retest that because I want to see where I'm at now. But high levels of glyphosate also found mold

and all of that is suppressing immune systems. My body's not able to attack like the Babesia, for example, correctly. So how does someone know that they have mold exposure? And then how can they test for it? Oftentimes when people come and I consult with them, they don't even know that they were exposed to mold to begin. That was me. Yeah. Even for myself, I never even thought about it. But then now you look back in terms of how you grew up specifically. I grew up in a very moldy house. and namely I had a lot of flooding that went on in my parents' house and there were visible signs of black mold that's growing in the basement as well so that's already tell tell sign that you are already getting exposed

so those are things that you could end up having to ask the client how your childhood home was or at least the current house you're living in do you see any visible mold issues but a lot of times mold is not visible right it's behind the wall number one number two just because you don't you don't smell a pungent smell of mildew, for instance. I mean, mold, for instance, doesn't mean that the mold is not present either, right? So those are the reason why you have to look at, all right, if the person's actually dealing with X, Y, and Z symptoms, and then if you actually have any other history of mold exposure,

per se, right? And if their particular labs end up having to be showing telltale signs of mold, it is probably mold, right? So that's where proper testing in terms of your microtoxone testing can actually play a huge role into uncovering that, but there's also specifically a limitation of those urine micro toxin as well. Because mycotoxin, or at least mold toxins, the difference between mold and a mold toxins. Should I define what those are? Yeah. So mold is, you have mold everywhere, right, either indoor or outdoor. And mold is all part of our ecosystem. And mold is supposed to be there

to recycle certain carbon metals at the same time. So if you think about going out to a forest or a park, for instance, if you actually have a set of leaves, mold is able to break it down and to turn to carbon matter and to recycle it back in. So it's part of the entire ecosystem. Now, there are indoor mold issue where mold trying to compete in a living space with other living beings, that is where the mold is trying to attack and as well as to suppress whatever it is to survive. And mold, when you instigate it as well, end up having to produce these

mold toxins basically, right, to suppress whatever being's immune system it is or affecting changes there. So this way, it's for them to protect themselves to survive, right? So there's a whole interplay of mycotoxins like trachycin, which is part of stocky botches, which is black mold. You have aflatoxin, which probably end up having to come from a lot of times food, but also coming from wet building. Like if you have a sheetrock that's wet, it could be growth of aspergillus and penicillus.

It can produce aflatoxins. Okrotoxins is another one. And so if you're drinking moldy coffee, that's where okra toxin actually comes in. And then there are other things like gliotoxin and then zonulin. Zonulin is another mold toxin where it mimics estrogen and it can impact fertility matters. Now, the fertility study has been shown in more of animal models in terms of pigs and cows. But you also have to extrapolate that data for humans because it is not. ethical to doing human studies in utilizing mycotoxins.

And so you have to look at animal studies and how to interpret that and then going into how is that impacting human lives specifically. And there are studies that are showing into how that mold exposure not only causing mitochondrial damage and oxidative stress and such, but also has been shown to causing histology changes in intestinal lining, for instance. There's been showing of studies where it actually blunts childhood growth, for instance, nutritional depletion at the same time. So there's a lot of studies available is just when a practitioner is not trained to look at those things. And even for me, when I was

doing my fellowship training, we always talked about God. We always talked about specifically in terms of hormone dysregulation, but we never talked about mold issue. Yeah. Yeah, when I was in school studying nutrition and I had an integrative approach. So it was putting, you know, Western practices with holistic and we got a whole round of it. And I don't even think we talked about mold at all. We talked about Lyme, but mold wasn't even addressed in my nutrition program that I thought. I thought that was kind of interesting. I want to know, what are the moldiest foods that people are eating?

Oof. Most common will be coffee. Yeah. Right? You go to coffee shops and you pick up a coffee. Yes, it's something that you enjoy all the time. But when you're buying conventional coffee, that's not been, well, production is one, but then also storage and how this process that actually and where the moisture

are getting involved that is where the actual mold and have to grow so that's where high levels of okritoxin came into play and there were actually did a video on this particular topic and so how okra toxin end up having to impact the body specifically okra toxin can actually impact your kidneys so there's been discussion of how you know the body is trying to pee it out to dilute it no that's not the case And actually, okotoxin affects the aldostrum, which is key hormone to regulating your sodium level in the kidneys. Yeah. That gets affected.

Now you're just basically dumping out sodium and minerals on top of water. And that's another issue that comes into play in terms of how okotoxin affecting that. There's an interplay of female, for instance, dealing with intersticidis, for instance, your chronic UTI problem. That's all interlinked to dealing with some of these mold toxins, specific. specific okotoxin and then all the one would be citronin are the top two that could affect female reproductive organs and as well as your urinary tract so that has to really look into that so the other second food specifically grains right rice other things like lentils like beans for instance that could be laced with that corn is is heavily doused with mold right so again the harvest is one thing but then also processing it, how it's being stored, and moisture level-wise, that is where a lot of the mold end up having to grow, and that's actually going to end up having to release a lot of the aflatoxins that you see.

Peanuts are also really high in aflatoxins, right? That one always really bums me out. Yeah, I love peanut butter. Yeah, peanut butter. It doesn't make a difference if you buy whether a conventional peanut butter, organic peanut butter, peanuts in general, and how they process and how it's being utilized, you have a high-risk factor actually getting exposed to mold toxin, specifically afl toxin from there.

Yeah. And then all that could be moldy cheese. I used to love blue cheese. Oh, I hate blue cheese. After finding out what that is, I stop eating it. That's good. My parents love it. I'm trying to get them to stop eating it.

I hate, oh, I can't do. It's like one of the, my biggest food a version. So it's probably a good thing for me. It can be. But the biggest issue is a lot of these foods, you know, we're supposed to be enjoying it. But our resiliency to handle these things are really poor now because it's already been affected based on our exposure to different issues and then you have a poor vaginal nerve response, stress response is another thing,

all that now it's leading into, and poor eating habits as well, leading into leaky gut. So when you are exposed to some of these mold toxins from food, it can lead into additional inflammation and leaky gut, right? and specifically it can also lead into an afflactic reactions and then for people who are super sensitive it can lead into muscle activation issues as well

yeah I wish I think a lot of people are dealing with so I want to know from your perspective especially when it comes to mold specifically so I I'm the type of personality and well and I think a lot of us just in general are like this where I want to know all this information right I want to know I'm very curious I want to know how I can protect my health and I want to

do, and I have all these practices that I do every day where I really try my best to keep my body as resilient as possible. I eat real food, you know, and when I start getting tripped up, when it starts getting into stuff like this, where I hear, okay, coffee is moldy, peanut butter is moldy, and then, you know, then all of a sudden you feel like you're having to avoid all these foods. And my question is, how can someone maybe take some steps, or maybe there's a supplement we can take, or maybe there's things that we can do where, like, we can just build resiliency in our body where we don't feel like we're having to just avoid like oh peanut butter now i can't have peanut butter i can't have coffee it's like how do we navigate that so that we can still have

so we can still live in the normal world and we don't feel like we have to be living in a bubble and we can build that resiliency so that we don't feel like we have to be avoiding all this stuff all the time yeah that's a very tough question to answer is because i think there's a good side of information and a social media and everywhere else nowadays that we could talk all about toxin, how it's being exposed to, right? There's different pages now specifically talking about how household items in that that have to be impacting your health and including mold, but also volatile gas that's coming from air fresheners, for instance, right?

All those are really... Off gassing of the furniture. Everything. Yeah, it's... Everything. It's maddening. It's maddening. But you still have to live. Yeah.

That's a part that's often not talked about. The second thing I also talked about when my client says, you have to build your resiliency, cellular resiliency specifically so that's where you are able to handle the stressors that's within your environment and that's the most important part that we have to look at so one thing that I always say to my clients is you know after a couple months or at least few months

I don't want to ever see you again not because I don't want to work with them but I'm teaching you the tools and the nuances to handle some of the stressor issues so that's where you are on your own and able to handle it better you're not supposed to be hooked on supplements and binders and all the different things and trying to live your life.

That's not living at all. It's actually more in the sense that you continue yourself into a particular bubble and also creating a prison for yourself. And that's a part that, I hate to say this, but a lot of crunchy moms, you know, being crazy about, you know, toxic exposure and such. And life is so. You have to be protective in your family's health and such. But in certain cases, you also have to provide some amount of flexibilities

and be resilient to handle all those things as well. So what can we do? Well, number one, making sure you get clean food. That's the most important part, right? If you can afford, and this is a part that's often missed, a lot of times from my practitioner point, is that can you afford organic food? If you can, making sure to do that.

But there's all the second option that's even better by locally. There's local farmers available. A lot of times, just because you have an organic stamp on a particular food package does not mean you know, does anything any better. You could go to local farmers where they don't use any pesticides and such and they would charge you even less because they don't have that particular USDA organic stamp on it. People often miss that.

And so you could go to local food markets or farmers and then you could buy directly from that. That could be really, really helpful. And there are things that you could also avoid, you know, things like if you could avoid things that are packaged in plastics as much as you can. again, plastics are everywhere, even including your clothes and everything else. But again, try to minimize as much as you can. And why there's such an important factor is this,

every step that you make every single day and just making 1% improving your particular health and exposure you're dealing with, is greater the outcome and the benefit you're going to provide for your body. Instead of trying to calculate, oh, am I going to be exposed to this and that, you're just going to drive your nuts. And especially if you're traveling, let's just say, that's even impossible to do many cases, right?

When you travel, not only you're getting exposed to fumes inside a plane, right, you're getting exposed to EMAP. Radiation is a big one, right? When you even land, you can't even find a particular food that you're used to eating. So what are you going to do? You're going to pack up food all the time. I've seen clients doing that, but again,

it creates an even more difficulty to really live your life. So what's the next part? What are we going to build up cellular resiliency? And that's the part that creating better terrain in your body, but also there's a part that I always teach as well is that we need to really increase the redox potential. So that's where you are better electrically charged within yourselves to handle all these things. Then you're able to live a better life without fearing all the issues in your surrounding you. Yeah, I love that.

And I would add a little bit on that too, just things that I do personally, because I talk about this all the time. It's something I really am passionate about. about because I think if you were just to watch a couple of my videos or like don't really know much about me or don't listen to the podcast regularly, you probably think that I'm a psycho and then I live in a bubble because of everything I talk about. But it's actually quite the opposite as far as like how I live my life day to day. I just have these little things in place that I really, what I always tell myself is I try my best and I give the rest to God.

and what my best looks like is some of what you were saying I buy organic I make sure that my water is filtered I have air filters in my house to just filter out all that off gassing and you know everything else that were exposed to I get in a sauna a couple times a week I think that's a really big one

and I take charcoal or like some sort of binder when I get in the sauna because then you're getting a lot of the toxins out that you're exposed to and I feel like that's pretty much mostly And then, you know, I'm just, I'm mindful in general of the sourcing of my food. And outside of that, I just, you know, I'm like, I do the best I can. If I test and I have mold, like, I'm on a specific protocol right now.

But, you know, it's driving me nuts because, like, you were saying earlier, it's like you feel like you're in this prison because you're just like you're taking these supplements all the time and you're worried about the glyphosate and, you know, everything else that I've been exposed to. But generally speaking, I don't go through my day thinking, oh, my God, all the toxins I'm being exposed to. because I have these things in place that are just like they come natural to me now and I just do them and then I just trust that my body's going to take over and do the rest. And that's important part. You have to do on a daily basis and so what you do is really important.

So including like what time you wake up. So I always end up having to teach my clients about circadian biology. What is that? You have to specifically wake up when the sun is coming up, right? That in itself not only end up having to really help to renew the sleep cycle but also lower. or your cortisol stress response, right? Second, is able to help increasing your methylation process in your body by sun, right? It actually indirectly affected by the methionine pathway and increases gluteinion production in that sense of it.

So there's a lot more intricacy behind it, but that's really making the impact in terms of how that not only creating energy, but also creating cellular resiliency. Another thing that the sun is able to help out is the fact that it actually creates a fourth phase of work. water within the cells. Why is that important? It creates a better electron charge within the cells. But secondly, because of the structural water that's in the cells, is able to push out the toxins out. So again, you're doing nothing related to supplements right now. You're just doing little by little things that you end up having to incorporate into your lifestyle, including waking up based on how the sun is coming up. Another thing that I also end up having to address with my clients and it's not often talked about in a functional medicine and I think a lot of times

functional medicine is becoming the next phase of allopathic medicine specifically you're the second person to say that to me in like three days yeah that's yeah because the impact of EMF exposure for instance can also impact how your cellular function is so it become less resilient right and then that in itself with EMF exposure can actually end up losing your magnesium and so you know all these things into magnesium supplementation, do you particularly need that? You may, but also what's causing the depletion of the magnesium is EMF. EMF end up having to impact your voltage calcium channel. And when you affect that, you have influx of these calcium going into your cells, and that causes oxidative stress and inflammation. And now the magnesium is getting depleted

just to dampen that response. So... And, too, the soil is being depleted of magnesium. Yeah. So that's another thing as well. So it's not just about supplementation alone, but the food quality really matters in terms of where it is. The soil is also affected. That's the reason why I love supporting regenerative farming. I know you were at a regenerative farm just recently.

Yes. And I was actually going to say, I meant to say this a second ago when you said buy locally as much as possible. This is something that I'm going to be talking about more and more and more because, so I just went to Sovereignty Ranch this last weekend, which happens to be owned by two of my dear friends. Do you know Molly and Rylan Englehart from Kiss the Ground by chance? I never met them yet. Okay, so they're dear friends of mine who I got connected with years ago, just through the podcast, actually. And they are, Ryland started Kiss the Ground and created this documentary years ago.

And they're now being credited, actually, that documentary is being credited as like the number one reason that Regenerative has become so popular. because they finally made it accessible and helped people really understand the importance of it. But anyway, so I went to their farm. They just bought a farm in Bandera, Texas, a couple of years ago. And they had a conference there all about regenerative farming. And the whole weekend, we were just talking about how important it is to buy from your local ranchers and farmers.

Because a lot of people, I don't think, are aware of this. We are about to be in an agrarian collapse if we don't turn this around. because we have lost 170,000 farms, I think she said in the last eight months, I'm pretty sure is what she said. And what happens with that, and the reason why that is an issue is because then all of our farming and our food needs are now being just pushed to these huge conglomerates, you know, the massive factory farmers and the monocrop agriculture farmers. And if we were to have something that would take out, let's say, you know, one of those factory farms with the hundred thousand cows like there's a screw worm right now that there is saying is right across the

border in mexico and this screw worm can take out an entire herd of cows if there's one factory farm that gets hit with those screw worms it will take out that whole lot of 100,000 cows and then that takes out the whole meat supply like i don't think people just basically my point is that we don't really understand how fragile our food system is becoming because we're putting all of our food needs on these huge conglomerates. And everyone thinks, oh, well, I'll just go to the grocery store. Well, we saw during COVID what happened when the food supply chain even had like a little bit of a hiccup. Like, I remember going to the grocery store and there was nothing left on the shelf but beyond meat. Like nothing. Like there wasn't a single pack of ground beef. So my point is,

is that we need to all, it's all our responsibility to start putting our money back into these small ranchers and farmers because they're all leaving in droves because they can't afford to keep up with it anymore. People aren't buying from them anymore. And that's how we're going to get the healthiest food, too, because it's going to travel less. Guess what? The tomatoes you're buying at Whole Foods? They were probably grown in Florida,

and I'm buying them in California, and they just went on a truck for three weeks, and they were picked, not ripe, and then they were ripened in the back of the truck on the way there. And so by the time you're buying that tomato in Whole Foods, it's probably like three weeks old. Versus if you can find a rancher and farmer near you, chances are it was probably picked last week.

It is. And so the nutrient density is going to be higher for many reasons because of the regenerative farming in the soil, and I could talk about this forever. But AJ Richards has a company called FromTheFarm.org, and you can actually go and find ranchers and farmers that are near you, and you can start supporting local food. So you're going to get healthier food. Hopefully they're farming regeneratively. I know that they have a lot of regenerative farmers on their website, and you'll get a higher quality, higher density, nutrient-dense food. But also, food is not just about nutrients. It'll

also helps to send different cellular messages within the food itself. So it gets imprinted locally. So that's another reason why I actually recommend people to eating locally to begin with because the local food, based on where you are, that imprint that's coming from the sun also helps fortify your mitochondrial function at the same time and cellular function. So that's really important factor. So you want to eat based on seasonally at the same time as well. So seasonally, locally, that was a really important part because you don't want to be eating banana middle of a winter.

Yeah, true. It doesn't work that well, including avocado in a middle winter somewhere in Canada, that's not specifically for you, right? Cellularly wise, right, and the monocondria and how that gets impacted within those food, being imprinted within your cells, doesn't work well. So that's why I always like to implement more of a local, seasonal, paleo-based diet for these people who are doing. with mold toxicity for instance. Yeah. How does someone detox from mold and how are most people detoxing from mold the wrong way? So I, you know, this is a part that's often being questioned a lot because, you know, there's certain practitioners that end up having to say, you know, you only have to take binders and be done with it, right? But binders doesn't really affect

necessary cellular changes either. And here's a reason why. Mold toxin specifically end up having to cause DNA damage. And there's a whole word called DNA add. where certain mold toxin specifically there's studies showing of aflotoxin, for instance, and certain levels of trachythesons end up having to bind to the cell membrane and DNA structure as a result, end up having to affect

the expression of the organs, the tissue itself. So why this important factor is you can't, binders alone is not going to fix the problem. So that's why I just want to say binders is a good tool and I certainly use it as well, but it's not something that's going to be taking care of the issue. So what do we need to do? Well, cellularly, we have to also impact the change within that.

So this is where I love utilizing a phospholipids, for instance, like body bowel PC. We'll talk about that. But one of the important factors of your environment is one of the things that we have to always talk about. So in terms of what you were just talking about, having a good air filter is one of the good things. But also assess how your house is because that should be your healing sanctuary. So if you don't feel safe in the house, most likely your mold detox is not going to work very well. Because in order for you to detox specifically,

you have to be in more that parasympathetic resting state in order to do so. But if you're getting bombarded by mold exposure, for instance, then that's a problem. So you want to at least reducing the exposure, which is the most important step you could create. One of the air filters I love using is Jasper. I love Jaspers, yeah. I love it.

So that's one of the good filters available. You don't want to buy some cheap air filter. to buy through Amazon for instance specifically you want to making sure these filtration companies end up having to have studies showing that they could neutralize mycotoxins right and mold specifically so this is really important thing so buy a right one second you want to test your house to see where the mold exposure is coming from what kind of mold you're dealing with because it actually creates a lot of story when you're comparing not just a mold testing at home but also the mold testing might be getting for your body so you'll be able to see all right some mold

exposure I'm getting from is home or maybe somewhere else at least kind of tells you the story in that aspect and third you also need to reduce some of the volatile gas you might be exposed to right so you want to get a good ways to this is where the good air filter actually helps to reduce these things certain plants like english ivy has been shown to actually decrease a lot of the the mold mycotoxins including volatile gases so that's a good plant texture have to freshen up the and other things in terms of EMF exposure as well. I know I'm kind of dialing in multiple times EMF,

but EMF exposure can actually cause mold tissue to get worse. That's the reason why. Why is that? So the wavelength causes it to grow or something? It caused that. It ended up having to impact the cellular impact of electric charge for the mold to actually grow exponentially. So there is comparison studies of non-native EMF exposure for mold,

versus not, and specifically EMX failure to have to create some bigger mass. At the same time, we talked about how EMF impacts your cell membrane, specifically your voltage ion channels as well. So your cellular resiliency even goes down further to handle mold

when you're getting exposed to EMF. That's why you want to turn off your cell phone. Number one, not just put an airplane mode, you want to turn it off or at least get a fair day back to it to keep it stored. Second is blue light exposure, It's another thing.

I talked about how blue light impacts methylation, your detox pathway as well, and how that in itself impact how well you're able to detox heavy metals and mold. So those are things that really need to be done. So you want to create that particular sanctuary in your house. So that's number one. I didn't say anything about supplements. We'll talk about that later. Second part we also have to address is how safe do you feel in your body?

namely if you're feeling the fact that you have an onset of nervous is in dysregulation that's a problem right so you have to also talk about how do we get you situated better so this where you're in that more that parasympathetic nervous system so certainly breathwork namely heart coherency breathing technique so the more coherent that you become in terms of your heart rhythm and your brain and that breathing is going to really impact in terms of how sound-minded you are in your nervous system that also impacts how well you're able to detox. In certain cases, if you are dealing with family traumas or generational traumas, there are certain therapies they have to also implement as well. So it's not a fixable thing, but at least

getting the breathwork, at least the breathing aspect of you dialed in, help to self-regulate that. That's really impactful. I like using EMDR, eye movement, that in itself, including tapping really helps to create a safer response to the nervous system, right? Again, safer you feel that also impacts up to your cellular safety that creates better healing and recovery for your body from mold. And that's not just a mold. It could be helpful for muscle activation issues. It could be helpful for people doing long COVID problem. So there's multiple area that could be impacted, but it's one of really help to address that is the two foundational things that have to look at. That also impacts in terms of how well you're able to wake up in the morning

based on the sun and how well you're able to negate and block out blue light late at night. So that's where you have to get a proper sleep. And melatonin production is really key thing. That's about regulating sleep, but also help to regulate your hormone, your detox enzyme being produced. And another thing is help to renew your cells is one thing that melaton is able to do. And then the part in terms of the supplementation is this. use of phospholipids and healthy fats and different fatty acids getting involved in terms of helping to rebuild the cellular membrane, at least the lipid issues within the cells, to be renewed. So specifically, I like using body bowel PC. PC or phospholipids are basically 70% end up to make

the outer structure of the cell membrane. Unfortunately, it gets damaged very quickly from outside exposures, namely mold toxins specifically could be from heavy metals and such. But these type of healthy fats is able to help to renew the structural, but also help to create better resiliency within the cells. And other things like linear lake and alpha-linelate. So body bowels balance off specifically, those create better ways in terms of structural improvement in the cells, but also creates better ways in terms of creating resiliency at the same time. And also preventing further downward spiral issues of lipoproxation or the damage that goes on as well so it's able to help to renew that cells. Other things like SPM-based fish oil has helped to help

decrease cellular inflammation. You could add in certain other fatty acid as well like sodium butyrate is really important factor. We know that butyrate is very important for a gut microbiome as a postbiotic butyrate actually has a role to protect the DNA but at the same time it's They're able to act as a chemical chaperone. So what it does is, butyrate comes in, simply put, it's up to ligate, or least to take away the damaging component within the cell membrane, such as more toxin specifically or heavy metals, to decrease these damages and is able to help create a basic fixing job within the DNA.

And all the things in terms of help to unfold protein, for instance. Why am I talk about that? Because more toxins specifically, actually damage. the actual protein folding that goes in the cell membrane and if you misfold certain protein it actually changes the expression how the organ is supposed to function for instance right so when you have a miss folding or at least proper differentiation of the certain tissues that leads into certain disease states like autoimmune disease right chronic pain issues PTSD those are all part of this whole protein misfolding that goes on tutka for instance even there's a secondary bile is able to help to unfold these things and prevent further stress in the end of present reticulum, so within the cell and mitochondria. So those are all interplanters of doing these things to help to regulate that cell membrane better have to renew it.

When you have a better functioning cell membrane, you're able to absorb the nutrients better, but at the same time, able to get the toxins out of the cells. So those are really key things that, three things that are implement, all the things to optimize the detox pathway, for instance, certain use of, bioflabinoids to stabilize mold toxins specifically, certain minerals as well as minerals specifically like methionine, for instance, that help to further stabilize all the mycotoxins like Cleotoxin, for instance. That in itself also helped to support the liver function as well.

Bioproduction is another thing, bioflow is often blocked from mold toxins, and that's actually impacts women a lot more. and that's the reason why when you're having estrogen dominancy you have to also looking at is it interplay due to mold toxins for instance not just gut dyspiosynos. Yeah, because they can raise estrogen, right? They're phytoestrogenic.

Yep, absolutely. So those are things that are really looking at and then the next part is looking at how to rebalance the microbiome, right? We're not just looking at the mold, but specifically looking at how you've got microbiome is, how to digest properly, and then all the things in terms of how the specific mold

issues that you see. This is where it's the department based on the lab testing you'll be doing. One thing I like to look in is a real-time lab, your mycotoxin testing. It's going to really dictate into which type of certain herbals or certain medications specifically that could be utilized

to help decrease the mold and as well as to eradicate mycotoxins. And there are colonizing mold issue that goes on in the gut, which becomes even more difficult to get rid of. And the last thing that often does often miss is, is nasal irrigation, right?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, so because you have mold spores flowing around and then you could colonize in the nose and when you're having post nasal drip, for instance, all that mold in itself end up having to colonize in the gut. So you have an endless amount of cycle that you're trying to break and it's not possible unless you're dealing with the exposure of it. So that's why environmentally matters

and then all the things into controlling and decreasing the mold exposures, the really key thing. All the things in terms of all the co-infections, like parasites and wool kind of come into play. But one of the things that I like to really address is I know it's a lot of steps. But the most impactful thing that you're going to make in your health is your environment and your nervous system. Why? The better terrain that you create in your body, the much quicker you're able to get rid of mold for yourself and become much more resiliency. So last part I teach my clients is enhancing resiliency there.

So there's all different types of biohacking. tools and such, but those are useless unless you actually have the proper foundation, proper terrain, and proper redux and energy production within the cells to create that enhancing resiliency, and that's going to really help to create a better you. And that's something that I experienced for myself and those clients who went through multiple other practitioners and cannot seem to get better. But when we're addressing the environment nervous system, and specifically in that order I just talked about, and the method I teach is called the Encore method, and that's a six-step

process, environment, nervous system, cellular health, optimizing detox pathway, rebalancing microbiome, and enhancing resiliency. So it gives a better roadmap for people who are dealing with chronic illness and specific mold toxins to know, all right, where am I at? One of the steps I could take for myself to be stronger to handle mold, but also clearing it out and have a better life. And that's a part that's off to miss. And I don't want people to be hooked on binders and supplements and all that. Those are things that are needed for a short period time. But most impactful part is your environment, nervous system, and your cellular health.

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