Realfoodology - Cellular Detox 101: Fasting, Heavy Metals, Cholesterol & Inflammation | Dr. Daniel Pompa

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

287: I’m joined by Dr. Daniel Pompa, health coach, author, and founder of the Pompa Program, to break down the truth about intermittent fasting, cellular detox, and inflammation. We explore how fasting actually works at the cellular level, what a real feast day looks like, and how toxins, seed oils, and even dental issues can drive chronic inflammation (and bigger health issues down the line). Dr. Pompa also shares how mercury poisoning reshaped his approach to health and why cholesterol is so misunderstood. If you’re doing all the “right” things but still feel off, this episode connects the dots. Topics Discussed: → Is intermittent fasting good or bad for health? → How does cellular detox reduce inflammation? → What causes the “skinny fat” look even in healthy people? → Can heavy metals and environmental toxins damage mitochondria? → Is elevated LDL cholesterol actually bad for your health? Sponsored By: → Our Place | Stop cooking with toxic cookware, and upgrade to Our Place today. Visit https://www.fromourplace.com/realfoodology and use code REALFOODOLOGY for 10% off sitewide. With a hundred-day risk-free trial, free shipping and returns, you can experience this game-changing cookware with zero risk. → Clearstem | Go to https://www.clearstem.com/realfoodology and use code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout for 15% off your first order. → Paleovalley | Save at 15% at https://www.paleovalley.com/realfoodology and use code REALFOODOLOGY. → Beekeeper’s Naturals | Today, Beekeeper’s Naturals is giving my listeners an exclusive offer! Visit https://www.beekeepersnaturals.com/realfoodology or enter code REALFOODOLOGY to get 20% off your order. → Qualia | Take control of your cellular health today. Go to https://www.qualialife.com/realfoodology and save 15% to experience the science of feeling younger.  → Vandy | Ready to give Vandy a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to https://www.vandycrisps.com/realfoodology and using code REALFOODOLOGY. Timestamps:  → 00:00:00 - Introduction → 00:03:43 - Intermittent Fasting  → 00:22:50 - Heavy Metal Poisoning  → 00:37:18 - Finding Purpose Through Pain → 00:49:25 - Cellular Detox  → 00:55:02 - Dental Cavitation + Cancer  → 01:08:17 - Toxins: Mold, Metals, Seed Oils   → 01:15:10 - Cholesterol Truths + Fish Oils   → 01:29:16 - Food Myths, Mold & Hormones Show Links: → Pompa Program → Webinar | Cellular Health → The Dr. Pompa Podcast Check Out: → Instagram Check Out Courtney:  →  LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE →  Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide! →  @realfoodology →  www.realfoodology.com →  My Immune Supplement by 2x4 →  Air Dr Air Purifier →  AquaTru Water Filter →  EWG Tap Water Database Produced By: Drake Peterson

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Yeah, I mean, one of the things people love to do is say women should never fast. Men should fast. It's like they categorize. that's not true. Men and women are different, no doubt. And, you know, when you look at ancestral tribes, women fasted, trust me. And but they definitely have to do it different than men, right? Their bodies at different times require oftentimes more calories, more protein. A woman who has a thyroid condition should not be fasting like a woman who doesn't, right? Does it? So, I mean, they can't. So, okay, the question is, is how do we do this and how do we do it right and what the

problem is. Yeah. So women absolutely can really cause more hormone challenges when they fast too much. Yeah. Because they get into a catabolic state. Fasting is a stress. People don't understand that. You know, it does force the body to go through different ways of getting energy. It can force the body to use more fat for energy, which is really good. Yeah. But when a woman is already in a hormonal change like perimenopause, well, their body's already stressed and adapting, and it may not make that adaption to fat as an energy source. In carbohydrates, we'd be better. So again, you know, we can't just make these blanket statements, right? So what I can say, because people are saying, what should I do that? When people first start intermittent fasting, they typically lose weight and feel

better. Okay, but then that causes them to do it more. And there lies some of the problem, right? So they end up eating less, the body will eventually think it's starving. And then what does it do? It's number one priority is to survive. So what it does is it starts to want to hold on to your fat and actually burn it its muscle, turn it into sugar, and that's not good because it affects your metabolism. Yeah. So fasting is not good because it affects your metabolism. Well, yeah, maybe when done incorrectly. So what women need to do is add feast days in. So if a woman's out there and they're intermittent fasting or once intermittent fasting because they do feel maybe a little bit better. That's great. But a woman with a thyroid condition typically needs three feast days a week,

meaning days where they get up and eat three meals. Or maybe it's days if they're really low carb, a feast could be higher healthy carbs three days a week. So, and again, finding that balance is different for, you know, everybody. I say for the average person, one feast day a week is absolutely essential. And again, that's a day where you get up and you eat more. you eat more often, you break out of the fast. And it reminds your body it's not starving. Because otherwise the body backs into the starvation mode and other things happen there, right? Of course, you know, you get kind of skinny fat and that the metabolism slows down, but your energy goes down. You get more brain fog. You start to get negative. And then they persist in more and more

fasting. You know, it was like kind of what happened to low calorie diets. You know, people would then eat less and less and less and less and less, right? And women, it really affected. And they were really struggling. Yeah, then they were really struggling. So the feast is very important. I even talk about how to do long fast. I'm a very, I teach five-day fasting and what can happen. We can talk more about the benefits of that, but just to make my point, if you're going to fast for five days, you darn well better find five days somewhere in the month to feast. I love that. I was the one telling women the week before your period is the time to feast, you know, and then you can fast, and a fast could mean part, there's different types of fast.

We could get there. I don't want to pull away from that first question. Yeah, no, you're good. No, that was great. You know what's really fascinating is I, so I'm not doing it now because I'm pregnant, but when I wasn't and I was practicing a form of what I call intuitive, intermittent fasting, I was doing just that, intuitively. Intuitively. That's why- That is really crazy. People say, well, what's your schedule? I said, no, I do it intuitively. Yes. I said, there's days where I eat one meal, there's days where I eat two meals in a six-hour window. There's days where I don't eat. I busy, I never get hungry.

and there's days where I am famished and I eat. My wife does it. She days, she gets up and she's eating. And there's days where she doesn't eat at all. That's intuitive. That's me too, where there would be days where, again, I'm going to stress not now. I'm pregnant. But when I wasn't pregnant, there would be days.

And I found that it was sinking up with my cycle. So right before I was about to start my period, I would notice that I'd really ramp up and I would eat a lot more carbohydrates. And I just kind of let myself do it because I could tell my body really needed it. That's right. And then after, I would notice that I was really not that hungry, and I wouldn't even, you know, it would be 2 p.m. before I'd have lunch, and I wouldn't even, or breakfast, before I even noticed that I hadn't eaten anything.

And I just wasn't really that hungry. And by the way, the hunger and the cravings of a week before a cycle is exactly that. It's the body and knows what it wants. Yeah. So you need carbohydrate, you need glucose and insulin to actually make a lot of hormone transitions. So conversion oftentimes doesn't happen unless you have a certain amount of insulin. And, you know, so, you know, it's, the body knows what it's doing. So the feast before the cycle is really important.

And then to your point, during the cycle, you kind of lose your appetite. You could go through that. And again, a fast could be just water or a fast could be what we call a partial fast, where you're eating just much less. Yeah. Under 1,000 calories a day and under 20 grams of protein is by definition of partial fast. And you still get the benefits of fasting. So I don't know, you know, how experienced your audience is with fasting, but there's a big benefit

from fasting called autophagy. That means your body gets rid of the bad cells in your body. It needs energy. When you're not eating, your body still needs energy. And where does it get it? It's so smart that it doesn't take bad or good cells and eat them for energy. It takes bad cells. They're known as senescent cells, cells that live too long. Zombie cells. They live too long. They drive inflammation. They make us feel bad. They age as prematurely. Bad cells. So your body's so smart. It takes those and eats them out. So during a fast, you literally renew yourself.

Here's the best part. It doesn't just get rid of that bad cell. It stimulates a stem cell and creates a new one. That's awesome. I mean, isn't it? It's like that's much. So a lot of the cells that your body goes after first, especially people that have hyperimmunity,

are the senescent cells driving hyperimmunity. So it gets rid of those cells, and then it creates a new naive, immune cell. And so you can, by doing multiple fast, you can lower that hyperimmunity and build up better immunity through this process of autophagy and stem cell creation. Look, there's other benefits. You reset your microbiome, you starve down all bacteria, then you can repopulate good after. You reset DNA through toxic stress, emotional stress, physical stress, we turn on bad genes. well, the most scientific way to turn off bad genes is fast.

It's like, so we were all designed to fast. The problem is people do too much of it. Fasting is a stress situation. Now, when I say that, people think, well, isn't that bad. No, exercise is stress. When you adapt to exercise, you get stronger, faster, etc., etc. The premise is hormesis. Fasting is the same way.

It's a stress. When you adapt to it, you get better, stronger, faster, better cells. If you don't adapt to exercise, you literally become weaker, you become, you know, fatter, you become all these bad things happen. Fasting's no different. You have to adapt to it. Therefore, your amount of fasting, your amount of fasting is different than mine, in Versa. Your amount of high stress exercise, let me use something that's very in vogue right now. Cold baths. Oh yeah. Is it two minutes or is it three? What temperature is bad? That's determined by your body's ability to adapt. A cold plunge only works if you adapt. And by the way, most people aren't

adapting because people are doing them, they have thyroid conditions, this condition, they don't adapt. And by the way, women need a lot less time, cold, because the key to it, the body thinks it's going to die. It hormonally optimizes if you adapt all these positive changes. If you don't adapt, you feel good after all the time, right? You feel great. But then later, maybe, you're going to you don't realize that the drop in the day, you didn't sleep good last night. You don't associate it because you felt so good after the cold bath, and you didn't adapt.

And the cold bath became a negative. Exercise, exercise too much. People do it all the time. That's why you should hire good trainers. Fasting is the same thing. People are doing too much of it. And they're not listening to the body. You listen to your body.

Intuitively, you realize it was time to eat, time to pull back. Yeah. And so people, you know, I have the five. 5-1-1. I have, you know, 3-2-2. I have all these strategies of giving people a way to do this because people don't listen to their body. So, because I would, in the beginning when I taught this, I was like, just listen to your body, you know, eat when you're hungry. Yeah, yeah, a lot of people

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Exactly. But I've always said, you know, when I started practicing intermittent fasting, I always said there was never a point where I was looking at the clock going, okay, I have like an hour left. I just refused to do that. Because to me, that felt very unhealthy. And at that point, then I just felt like, okay, I'm actively starving myself and this has to be bad for my body.

When I'm intermittent fasting, I just, when as soon as I get hungry, I eat. Now, again, people will be like, I'm hungry all the time, right? Because their metabolism is so messed up. You need to heal the metabolism. You know, you can get there. I call it mitochondrial fitness, right? You don't just jump into, you know, an Olympian athlete exercise program. You kind of work your way up slowly, right?

If you're going to run a marathon, you don't run 26 and a half miles. You work your way up. Same with this, right? The more, you know, you test your body, you know what? I'm going to eat dinner instead at seven. I'm going to eat it at five. All right, you just fasted two more hours. How did you do with that, right?

Actually, I'm getting used to that. Great. Push it out four hours and see what happens. Guess what? See, now you're getting your mitochondria used to using your own fat as energy when you're not eating. Because most Americans, they don't have the ability to do that. Look, I don't want to bore people with biochemistry, but everyone will understand this. Your cells can only use two things for energy, sugar or fat.

We call it metabolic flexibility. Healthy people have the ability to use both. When they're not eating, like at night when you're sleeping, your body will burn fat. And by the way, and if you're hormonally broken with the inability to use fat, we call you sugar burners. Yes. Sugar burners, you can be fat or skinny, it doesn't matter, okay, or normal weight. You could still be a sugar burner. What will happen when you're not eating is your body will break its muscle down into sugar

because it can only use sugar is energy. And this is a hormone challenge. talk about reasons why it happens, but what happens then is you're feeding off your muscle, so now your metabolism slows down. And these people will say, I don't eat that much, but I still can't lose this, you know? Well, it's because you're a sugar burner. You're breaking your muscle down, so you get a skinny fat look, right, and your body is, like you said, becoming more metabolically challenged. Or this happens. These are the people, it's not your fault. Trust me on this. These are the people that go, I can't stay on any diet. I fail on every diet.

Well, I would argue urinate intelligence is actually smarter because it goes, wait a minute, I don't want to use my muscle because I might need it to fight or flight. So I'm going to give you a craving you can't resist. Oh, damn. And then it goes, so you go, I'm going to get the carbs because your body's so smart it doesn't want to break the muscle down. Either way you lose. Okay, so the idea here is how do we get your mitochondria to become fat burners, right? Sugar burner or fat burner.

Yeah. You do it through these pushing the envelope like exercise. That's why I call it mitochondrial fitness. So going a little bit longer without food, you know, and then all of a sudden you go, you know what, I'm not even hungry today. All of a sudden it's like 3 o'clock you need and you eat and then you eat. The problem is people get so used to this that they're eating one meal day every day.

And then it's mistake. Too far. Yeah. Or they're eating two meals a day and throw in every day, day and day out. And your body's going to think it's starving. it's not going to work long term. You know it works short term. So you need to feast. It's as important as the fast. But I believe fasting is amazing. Okay. I love this. But it's different for everybody. Okay. That's why don't do what I do. You know, if you're not able to listen to your body,

then try three feast days and a couple fast days that are extended a little bit. That's great advice. Okay. I feel like that's tangible that people can actually use and hopefully apply that to themselves. And apply it to your cold plunging to. Yeah. And that. too well a lot of women have been talking about this because women are starting to you know pull back a little bit on cold plunging because they're feeling like it's having effect on their hormones yeah it does yeah I mean it remember it only works because it's a stress and if you adapt it's positive but again if you're a woman in perimenopause your adaptation is gonna be less that doesn't make you broken

it just it just is your body's distracted like when I travel I would never do a cold plunge because I'm more stressed and I'd happen to me once I did a cold plunge and I felt amazing and you know what happened the next day I got sick and I knew it was the cold plunge you know it's like so yeah you just have to understand these things apply to this premise of hormesis and I mentioned it so I should say the premise biological systems that's what we are living things if we stress it and it adapts it gets stronger faster smarter everything right yeah but if it doesn't adapt you become weaker or less and an exercise applies to this fasting applies to this cold plunges hot saunas apply to this

almost everything applies to this principle. So you have to listen to your body and where it is. Exactly. I tell people this all the time. It doesn't matter what every expert is saying. Ultimately, you have to check in with your body and see what works best for you. You can take little tangents and tidbits from people.

And obviously, you know, listen to the science that people are saying and listen to what they're sharing that works for them. But ultimately, ultimately, at the end of the day, you have to figure out what really works best for you in that confinement, right? And, I mean, the fasting is a great example of this. If I hear a man talking about how he eats in a four-hour window and he stops eating at 5 p.m.

It doesn't eat until, you know, what is it? Like 2 p.m. the next day, that's not necessarily going to work for me. And so you really need to figure out what works best for you and for your body. Absolutely. You know, and then people will argue, you know, the thing of like eat five, six meals a day. The argument I have with that is you never give your body time to feed from itself. Yes. You know, it's like so, again, on a feast day, eat five, six meals.

periodically eat five or six meals a day if you want right and when i see meals because they say i remember reading this the average american eats 17 meals a day i'm like what's what they saying you know they meant like they walk by the kitchen they eat a handful of nuts oh i wouldn't consider that a meal right but their point was is that but that little bit could stop your body from burning its own fat okay because now it has to focus on the the almonds right and so then you miss out yeah so that makes sense so you miss out on all those beautiful opportunities for your body to flush out all those of senescent cells, the autophagy, and there's so many. Because when you're eating, metabolizing food is a very high stress to the body.

It takes a lot of energy to do that. When you're doing that all day, it's not good. And there is beauty in when you're not eating, your body does, in fact, rely on its stored fat. So it's, you know, it's a mechanism that works. You know, so again, a few days of that, no problem. Every day of that, it's just as bad as eating one meal a day every day or two meals at a small window every day.

I could argue both sides. Okay, I love that. I feel like that's great advice. So I want to go in a different direction a little bit because you have a personal story with this. And also I shared with you earlier that I feel like this is really going to resonate a lot with my audience. You suffered from metal toxicity in your 30s. And this really put you in your purpose. That's why your podcast is called from pain to purpose.

Can you share your story? What happened, how you figured that out? Because it was a bit of a struggle to figure that out in the first place. Yeah, it was three, four years of, you know, it was more like four. but yeah so you know life is I always say you know I grew up very healthy I you know I didn't eat fast food I didn't eat McDonald's my mother cooked every meal right so way different my mom today right yeah so you know I grew up very healthy but you know I also remember these like weird times of like I had like massive candida and I even remember having like in and out of like fatigue even though

I ate really good and looking back it was I had mercury problems then and so but all of a sudden, I was functioning at a very high level. I was training on my bike at a very high level, expert level cyclist. I was running a very busy practice. Two young kids at the time, have five now. Life was very good. I was married. And then it wasn't.

It started with fatigue like so many people, right? And then it was like, I could just feel like my brain, which people would describe as brain fog, perhaps. Then it went to this weird anxiety. Then it went to insomnia. I couldn't get to sleep. Or if I did, I'd wake up in a night, couldn't get back. sleep. Like, that never was going on, right? Then it went to like all these weird food intolerances,

right? And then it went to sound sensitivity. Then it went to irritability, anxiety. Wow. Okay, so it was, I could go on. But then I found myself like most people looking for an answer. And like most people, though, it was like I focused on the typical symptoms that I was having. People go, it's a lot of you have a thyroid condition. My hair was thinning. I was like, you know, no energy, brain fog. And no doubt my thyroid wasn't functioning. You must have, you must have, have an adrenal condition because you're not adapting to stress. No doubt I had adrenal problem. However, I addressed those for two years at least. And some things got better. Other things not. But like many people, like I did all. My diet was perfect. I was taking the best

supplements, but I still wasn't well. Anyways, only to find out that I did. I had high levels of mercury in my pituitary hypothalamus. And that controls your thyroid. Yeah. That controls your adrenals. That controls all your hormones, right? And that controls a lot of things. How did you figure that out? That's a good question. Yeah. Well, here's the funny thing. Even before Mercury, I was like, you know what? Just based on what I was doing, bouncing around with the hormone stuff, I knew something's wrong with the control tower. I knew it. And then I was even taking these pituitary supplements. Honestly, they'd make me worse. Interesting. Yeah. So I thought it was like, dang it. Like, I thought I had this figured out, right?

I'm dyslexic, so I have a brain. I can absorb and remember a lot of information. But anyway, so I thought that was the answer. I was working with a, oh, I was online, I have to tell this first. I was online and I found mad hatter's disease. People making felt hats, they went mad. I had every symptom. I was a mad hatter.

Yeah, and I was like, I had every symptom. Well, they were lead in mercury toxic, many of them, because they were using this in the process. Yeah. Anyway, so I went and got a blood test and it came out normal. And so that was very disappointed. My mercury levels were normal. Okay, fast forward a year or so.

Okay, that's wild. And I'm very bright endocrinologist and chasing down the thyroid thing. And he said to me once, and this was after a while of dealing with me, I think you have mercury toxicity. I'm like, ah, yeah, I thought so too. I did the test. He goes, no, that's wrong test. If you were getting exposed daily, it would show up in your blood. but I'm thinking it's more chronic.

And I'm like, huh, where do you think I got it? Did you have any dental work done around when this all began? I'm like, maybe because, and I'm thinking back, right? Anyway, so in my cycling journal, I was like, when did I guess this fatigue start, right? Anyways, lo and behold, I had two silver fillings, amalgam fillings. They contained 50% mercury. Those silver, typically they're dark by the time they're 25 years old. And I had them removed.

And my symptoms came after that, but it was gradual, so I never associated it with that. But so that was it. Your symptoms came after you had them removed. Yeah, because they vaporized. Because they got, yeah. Looking back, I was building it up over the years. And by the way, this is important. Ladies, if you're watching, you are watching.

But the number one cause of brain mercury happens in utero. So this is called the Duras study. It was the German study. the number of silver fillings in mom's mouth is proportional to how much mercury they found in the baby's brain in utero. Wow. That was autopsy, so very accurate. Because there's no way without biopsy of measuring brain mercury.

And then you asked the question, how did you know? That was a really good question. I knew symptom-wise. And then I ended up doing a challenge test to see if it was in my tissue. Mercury didn't show up, but lead in a lot of abnormal amounts of matter. You could tell my body was shut down to it. And that's what he said. He was very clever as just a regular endocrinologist.

I wouldn't say regular. No, he was a more natural endocrinologist. But he said, yeah, it's in your brain. It's in your pituitary. I'm like, I knew something was going on there. Wow. And that's it. So once I got the rest of the fillings out,

and then I had to learn how to get it out of the body and out of the brain in particular. And I spent a lot of time doing that because I did the mistakes most people. I tried IV. I almost had to go to the body. the hospital because I got very, very sick. Because what it does is an IV keelation puts a lot of keelator in and it works.

It's good for acute exposure. It works that well. But what happens, it goes away and then you have all this redistribution that happens. And that's what happened. When it first happened, I was like, I feel great. Oh my God, this is, am I better? Yeah. I went home and about 15 hours later, I was off the deep end.

And then I was using cilantro, Corellica. Corella, they're weak binders, unlike the chelator. And they cause a redistribution because they're not strong enough to pull it out, made that mistake. So I was doing a lot, trying to do saunas, trying to do, and I was getting worse because I was getting a lot of redistribution. And it wasn't actually getting out of your body. It wasn't getting out, it was redistributing, and more was crossing into my brain.

Okay. And that's what people do. So when people go, oh, yeah, I did a heavy metal cleanse. I'm like, uh, okay, what did it actually address? So how do you actually get it out of your body then? So you have to use real keylators correctly, but keylators are just one part of a three-part process that I teach. Keylators are so you don't redistribute, but you have to take them within their half-life. It sounds more scientific than it is, meaning the blood levels have to stay up to a certain amount so you don't redistribute.

The problem with the IV chelation, it has a lot and it goes away and then redistribution happens. So by taking certain oral chelators, you can keep the levels up and they don't get the redistribution. You can stay on it for a certain amount of days so you don't get a lot of redistribution. So there's a strategy around that. And the keylators are the ones that are pulling it out of the tissues, correct? Well, they pour from the easy to get extracellularly. They don't go intracellularly with their water soluble, which makes them really effective because they clear. Yeah. Now here comes part one of real detox. I always say when I teach, real detox is really a cellular problem and issue.

meaning when someone like myself, what happened was my cell's ability to get rid of toxins, not just heavy metals, was very compromised. People in moldy homes, people would get hit with a lot of infections, heavy metals. They're so hard to get rid of it depletes all of the pathways in the cell that normally would get rid of toxins. So once those get depleted, you can use all the keyletters you want. You're not going to get well. You have to fix that. So step one, we fix what's broken.

in the cell. Step two, we use keylators, because when you start getting the cell well, it'll start moving toxins out. And then you can reabsorb. That's where the keyulators come in. So they prevent that reabsorption when they're used correctly. And then a third step is a lot of the toxins end up coming out through the kidneys, the liver, the bile. Bile ends up dumping in the gut, and it carries a lot of these toxins. You have to use binders that don't leave the gut as a catchers meant to pull it out. So we use chelators and binders around the cell in the gut, upregulating cell fight. That process is what I've

taught doctors for 20 years. And that's what really gets it out of the cells and then ultimately out of the body. Yeah. And that's, and then then we start with a prep phase. We're preparing the cell and the downstream pathways for what we're going to do. And then we have a body phase where we just get the easy to get toxins and that takes three months. And then we get into the brain

phase and that's where you're getting the deep stuff see neurotoxins like mercury aluminum forever chemicals yeah these go deep and they stay in the body they stay in the body yeah and that's what we talk and this is a big thing you know that you're all the legislation that's going on and when the government makes a certain amount of a toxin call it safe what they don't understand is these are persistent toxins meaning they stay in you and they accumulate So what's safe for you is not safe for me. Once your cell pathways are compromised, now almost any level you're accumulating. And that's when you get into trouble.

That's when you say, I've done everything. I've changed my diet. I still can't lose weight. That's when you say, how come my friend did this and that and she's able to come off her thyroid medication? I'm feeling worse than ever. You have persistent toxins accumulating your tissue. You will not get well until you get to that.

And it's not as simple as sitting in a sauna or doing the 10-day juice cleanse. You know, it's not that simple. That process. And pain to purpose is my mantra. And because everything I've been teaching for the last, you know, whatever years has come out of that pain. I wouldn't know it. I wouldn't know any of it. And I always say, I'm not even smart enough.

I believe God gave it to me. And here's there's one more pain to purpose and the family mantra is to a promise. When I was sick, my wife. many times was on her knees begging mercy, I'm sure, and asking for a solution like most women or moms would be for their husband or vice versa. This particular time, God spoke to her heart. Not only am I going to get him well, but he's going to take a message to the world. And when she tells it's so much better because she'll say, look, I've heard from God like

that one other time of my life. It's like, and it wasn't an audible voice, but it's, spoke it into my heart. And my wife would come at me with that with such certainty. I would get so mad because I would say, I can't even get myself well. So for me, it was just pressure. Like when she was saying, that promise got her through. Okay. So God gave her that promise. And as I found out just like a few months ago when we were doing gratitude, and it was for her birthday. And then again, at Thanksgiving, my two older sons said that promise that mom would say is what got us through. because we just believed her that God's going to get dad well and he's going to take some kind of message to the world, not sure.

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Yeah, I mean, there's no way I would have figured it out. You know, and honestly, I know God led me to it. You know, it's like, you know, yeah, I'm a dyslexic who couldn't read until probably the eighth grade, so I labeled myself as dumb, false identity. and only to realize that that dyslexic brain had other superpowers, I thought everyone could do. When I did learn to read, I still read slow. I can't spell a lick, by the way.

But I have this category in my brain of all these things, and I can hang on to it. I'm like, oh, yeah, that was on page 103, and that's from 10 years ago. Wow. So I was able to put all these things together and come up with what I teach, right? Well, it gives you your superpowers that you needed specifically.

Yeah, that you needed specifically for what you what you do best. That's so funny. I have a similar story. Not to, I'll just share it very quickly, but I struggled a lot in school, mainly because I went through some super traumatic stuff when I was a kid that I really needed to address.

But I spent a lot of my time going through middle school and high school just thinking I was really dumb, like similar as you. Just because it turns out that I actually was just so traumatized. I needed to do a lot of really deep emotional healing and work to get through some really, you know, painful experiences I'd been through. And I also just, I really needed to find my purpose.

It turns out that for me, my brain is like, if I'm not interested in something, I could give a flip about it. Me too. And I just am like, like I just, you know, with school, I was like, oh, I don't care about math. It just turns out it just didn't find what really lit me up. And then the second you throw me in a nutrition, I mean, I have like a photographic memory with it. And I, the things that I can remember when it comes to health and nutrition, and I mean, it's mind blowing. But it just goes to show that you really have to find what your, you know, superpower is and find out what you're most passionate about.

You know, and when I, you know, I've had the opportunity to coach a lot of doctors, not just in what I teach, but also I do these masterminds. And I'm always teaching that you're like, because people go, I don't even know if I'm in my purpose. I'm like, always look for your purpose and your pain, you know, because just like you, right, it was there. But, you know, it's amazing that the false identities, everyone listening to my voice right now, We live from false identities to some degree.

And one of the things that I teach is your level of happiness in success, not just financially, but like all the pillars of success. I think there's 12, right? Like, you know, relationships, all of that success literally parallels your ability to function as close to your true identity as you can. Meaning functioning is who God created you to be. That doesn't happen overnight. There's an evolution to that.

But when you look at people who are just missing it up in life and are really not happy, they're living out a false identity that was given to them. We all were given them by people who love us, parents. Our parents mostly. Yeah, exactly. Coaches, teachers, yeah. I mean, especially, you know, other siblings. You know, but we then hold on to those.

So every bad behavior as an adult, every insecurity came out of my dyslexia. I was raised in a very good family. I didn't have, you know, they say one out of three people has some type of sexual abuse. of some sort, sometime in their life, right? One out of three, that's amazing, right? Wow. I mean, that's hard to believe, but it's true. Yeah, that's crazy.

Yeah. But anyways, I mean, so we can create false identities from anything, right? Yeah. I do remember a few situations, someone calling me dumb and one was on the playground and I was in fourth grade and I hit the sixth grade or square on the nose.

So I come saying, he's laughing over there. But I did. You know, you end up compensating with like where you're a little bit better, right? Yeah, yeah. I always say I was a little faster, you know, and I was a little stronger, right? Smarter, I didn't think I was. But anyways, you know, I think most of it, though, was self-imposed, meaning I labeled myself as dumb.

Because when you can't read, I mean, you compare yourself to you when I was. Surely, I just must be dumb. Yeah, right? So that created a lot of insecurities, which created bad behavior as an adult, right? Well, and what should have happened, you know, hindsight is always 2020, is that someone should have had a conversation with you of like, no, this is just how your brain is. It just functions a little bit differently.

It doesn't mean that you're dumb. just your brain. You know, so my son, Simon, my youngest is, you know, dyslexic like I am, right? Yeah. And he always says, just give me one more label, right? Because he's like, he's like dyslexic, OCD, right? He's amazing. But I told him this forever, like, Simon.

Because he didn't make it past the sixth grade, right? It's like, I like Simon, you'll see. So here's a father and a mother telling him, you're not stupid, you have dyslexia. I did too. Watch what's going to happen. He didn't believe me. Of course. That's true.

So now he's in his 20s though. And now he's coming into his superpowers. And it's like, and he just said to me the other day, you mean everyone can't do that? I'm like, oh, God. There it is. I'm like, no, Simon, no one can do that. Only you can do that. You know, so now he believes me.

But, you know, but the wounds are still there. You know, he has wounds, man. He couldn't hang in any classroom, you know? I mean, despite his, you know, you think your parents, they just love you. They're telling you all kinds of stuff that's not true. That's true. Yeah, I feel like my parents were lying to me about a lot of things growing up. Yeah, exactly, right, right. But I'm like, no, I'm telling you it's true. So anyways, we went off topic. No, but I loved that. And I feel like it's a great part of your story, which is really interesting and fascinating to hear.

And I think, too, it gives people a lot of hope because I see, like, you know, for me, for example, I always share my story and how hard it, how hard it was for me to get to the place that I'm at now. because I think so many people see, and I'm sure people do this to you, where they see now like, oh, you know, they have, I don't know, it's not about following, but let's say X amount of followers and they have these big businesses and they help so many people and, you know, they're doing all this cool stuff. And maybe they're thinking, oh, you know, I'm really struggling. I wish I could find my purpose. And to me more, I just see that as like they see us as living in our purpose is really what I mean, right? And we are. And we are, but they also don't realize how hard it was to get there. And the only reason I say that is that if you're struggling, don't give up because I feel, I believe that everyone here has a purpose. I agree too. It's just a matter of continuing to go on that path and figuring out whatever that purpose is and going with your heart. Everything that I did in my 20s was the exact opposite of what my parents wanted me to do. And I don't even mean necessarily in a rebellious way.

It was just the, I didn't even have the words for it, but I was just kind of like, trust me, I know what I'm doing. It may not seem like I know what I'm doing. And there are some days where I actually don't know what I'm doing, but I'm just following my heart because I think that there's something here and I think I'm on to something, but you've got to trust me and you got to let me do this. Oh, it's so true. You know, let's, let's close this loop with an action step. I love that. People should share this because there's so many people that are just not functioning in their true identity. And here's what I do in my masterminds. I have people

timeline as far back as you can remember your first trauma or just something, and typically what you can remember, you know, are the first traumas, but there's traumas you don't remember. So I have a solution with that too. And then just timeline it out and do this over three days. Don't sit there for three days. You do it maybe for an hour and think about it. Set it aside and for the next few days, pray about it, look at it, glance it, and you'll start to remember more. But all of the things that happened to you that were embarrassing, significant, affected you, whatever it is, maybe it was some physical trauma, emotional trauma and embarrassment or whatever. Label them out. And then on the other side, put all the victories you've had in your life, big things that you did were proud of or, you know,

things that you were significant, even to you. It was winning something. And write those victories down. And the reason why you do this is because in the pain is the purpose. And there's hints to your true identity. Let me give me an example. There was a book that transformed me called it, and David perceived you as king. If you know the story of David, it's a real story. And David, David was just a shepherd boy, and his brothers, he was born out of wedlock, the bastard son, and he was treated as such. So he had a lot of false identities around it. In matter of fact, David screwed up Israel. I mean, he did everything wrong. He screwed up everything because he was functioning more from those false identities. And if you saw the house of David, they

really focus on that. I heard that's a good show. Yeah, it's amazing. You can find it on prime. But they really focused on that. And, you know, when you read it, it takes, a lot, you know, to kind of pull that out. But, you know, you have to understand, it's like, here's the way this situation went down. You know, here's Samuel. He's later in his years. He was the prophet of the day. And Samuel's late in his years. So anytime Samuel showed up at this time, it was bad news for Israel. He always prophesying bad because they were doing bad. So anyways, here he shows up at Jesse's house. That's David's father. And he says, I'm here. And when you hear Samuel's coming, you're not like, you're looking at like, what have I done wrong?

right? And he's here for a good thing. I'm going to anoint the next king of Israel. Of course he brings out Elab. He's the first son out of his seven sons. And not even thinking of David, brings out of Elab, nope, not the one. Next son, nope, nope, nope, no, that's it. Oh, wait.

Oh, yeah, he had David hitting, right? There's, oh, well, David, see, he even think they couldn't have been David. That's how many wounds David had, right? I mean, he was, he said, well, we're not even sitting down until you bring David. Anyway, David comes, he anoints him, right? but, you know, David then goes through life still wounded, right?

Even know he had this anointing on him. That was his true identity, right? Yeah. And, you know, but God allowed him to slay a lion and a bear, right? And those were wins, right? That's like when I said the timeline, you know, put those wins down. Because see, in that, there was true identity. He was a leader.

He was somewhat extraordinary, right? And what happened now, David is one day up against Goliath, and he anchored back to who he was. And he was able to step up against something bigger what everyone else was afraid of. But David one day, here he is messing up Israel, he realized who he was. His true identity is the king of Israel. And he stepped into that role.

And man, it transformed David, but it transformed Israel. It transformed the world. And I believe on his deathbed, David realized even, you know, he realized that it was even beyond him into, obviously, Christ and, you know, through his lineage, right? And, you know, our perception of who God created us to be, we all go through phases just like David. We all mess up just like David. We all do bad things, just like David. But it is stepping into that.

And if David looked at his failures and he looked at his victories, you know, in that is the answer. And with those failures, they're not failures. They're lessons. But what I do is I pray about them all. And I say, Lord, show me the victories or show me, you know, my. my true identity and all of this. And I go through and I pray about the victories. I pray about the hard stuff and show me my purpose.

I love that. I love that. And, you know, obviously we kind of went off tangent a little bit here, but I love it because I feel so passionate about this and about sharing about it because I largely spent, you know, a lot of my 20s feeling pretty lost and feeling like, I don't know what my purpose is. I don't know what to do with my career.

And like I said, I felt like looking back, it's so interesting because looking back, there was something that was guiding me but I just didn't know what it was so the time I'm like I'm confused I don't know what's going on and my point in sharing all this is essentially that I think that there are a lot of people that are really struggling with that

what's my purpose how do I find it what I do because I get messages from people all the time that are you know that say oh I would love to do what you're doing how did you get there and it's so hard for me to explain and I think everybody's path is so different because I'm like there's not a single there's not a way that I can explain it to you

because I had to go through so many trials and tribulations and and following my heart in many ways. Yep, exactly. And again, looking at your victories and looking at the things that happened in your life will determine and give you a reflection of who God created you to be,

that true identity and your purpose. I love that so much. Okay, well, I want to go back into some of the cellular health stuff because I know this is where you're really an expert. What are some of the first signs that people are starting to heal at a cellular level? How do they know that what they're doing is actually really starting to work?

Sometimes it's the opposite. You know, it's like when we're like start to upregulate cell functions, they start getting symptoms because their body starts dumping, right? And sometimes we have to move them into what I call body phase faster to just make sure they don't redistribute. So sometimes increasing cell function can detox you, yes. But your mitochondria starts to work better and you start to gain energy. I have my five hours of cellular healing and detox. and it's just a roadmap that I used to teach doctors on what to do. Our number one is you have to remove the sources in your life.

Otherwise, you'll never fix the cell. Meaning, if you're in a moldy home, you better do something about it. Otherwise, you're never going to feel well, right? Silver filth, whatever it is, right? Sources, remove sources. Now, our two is regenerate your cell membranes. Your membranes determine the good that comes in and the bad that comes out. It's the gatekeeper.

When you have a lot of toxins, they accumulate on these fatty membranes. they inflame and now they're rigid and now you can't get the good in or the bad out that's why something I teach I'm passionate about fat is because I teach something called lipid therapy where we have to fix those membranes getting rid of the bad fats bringing in the good

but anyways that's our two. Do you do that with phosphatololine? Oh yeah, phosphatocoline is one of the important fats that the membranes need and the even your hormone receptors are a lot they sit on these membranes something called lipid rafts, rafts made of fat that just means they float there

but every hormone has to connect to that. And you can make your blood, this is really important, you can make your blood levels normal with hormones. Or in my case, I said I had all this thyroid challenges. You know, every time I went and got my blood work done, it was in within normal range. Yeah. But I did have a thyroid problem.

Right, yeah. And it's like what no one showed me was, even though my blood was normal, my cells were so inflamed, thyroid couldn't get in the cell. So it didn't matter. So some people go and they go, oh, look, it's low. Eventually mine would have been. And they were given hormones.

So they make the blood levels hormones, but hormones don't work in the blood. They work in the cell. So the fact is you can make it normal, but if it can't get in the cell because toxins have inflamed it, you don't feel well. Nothing works. You don't lose weight. Change diet. We already went down this, right? So fixing that membrane also fixes these hormone receptors.

And fixing those membranes, the way you do that is it through that detoxification, whole process that you just shared, or is there more to that as well? It's probably about putting in the good stuff too, right? It's about putting in the good and correctly getting rid of the toxins. Remember, R1 is removing the sources. My Instagram page is all about removing sources. Yes. Yeah, you do a great job. Because I say start what you can control. You can control what laundry detergent you're washing your kid, which has all these endocrine deceptors and fragrances that contain chemicals you don't even know because they don't have to tell you. It's like start doing that. That's what my page is about. But when you've accumulated,

these toxins, which we have in our lifetime, my process is what people need, right? Yes. So that memory, I teach whole seminars, weekend seminars, just on the membrane. Because there's the outer membrane where all your hormone receptors are. Then you have your mitochondrial membrane. You don't make normal energy unless you fix that. In toxins, it's so fragile. Toxins disrupt it.

So, you know, the fat conversation that we're going to have to have, it's all part of that lipid therapy, right? And again, if we're only so easy to just take hormones and there's a time and a place, it's not. When your cells are inflamed, it doesn't work. Yeah. Well, because you need to get to the root cause. Exactly.

Yeah. I always use this analogy is that, you know, if you have cockroaches that keep coming in your kitchen and you have crumbs and you just keep spraying raid, you're going to get rid of the cockroaches, but they're going to keep coming back because you're not getting rid of the crumbs. You've got to get rid of the crumbs in the corner of your kitchen. Yeah. You've got to get rid of what is causing that.

in the first place. And then that's when you can finally get rid of the cockroaches or the, you know, the issue. You know, the perfect analogy. And another analogy is like someone, they live next to a big dump, right? And they come in, they spray all the flies. And, you know, great. Problem solved. Flies are back. Flies are right. Until you get rid of the dump, you're not going to get rid of the flies. They're always going to come back, right? The dump in this case is your sick body. But, yeah, you know, anyway, so R3 is you have to restore cell energy. And that's a lot of the mitochondrial work that I do. But again, if you don't get the toxins out of your life,

it's hard to fix the mitochondria. So it all goes back to R1. And then R4 is you have to reduce inflammation of the cell. A lot of my dietary strategies are that's where we start, right? Yeah. And then R5, this is a subject you know a lot about, is you have to reestablish methylation. Methylation is critical in removing toxins,

detox pathways, toxic hormones, so many functions, turning genes on and off. So reestablishing that, you won't fix that cell and getting it doing what it needs until you do. So that became a roadmap of like, here's how we build a protocol. And so to answer your question of like what happens when you start getting cellular health, when those functions start coming on board, you know, your energy starts coming on board. You know, all of a sudden you're getting rid of toxic hormones. And it's like, yeah, you know, it's like I feel better.

My brain fog disappears. I mean, that's what you get when you fix the cell. Okay. I want to ask you about, because we've been talking about some of the obvious things that are causing toxicity that people, they're pretty obvious, right? Like people know to test for mold, plastics, stuff like that. Something that I came online to a couple years ago, which actually, Ava and I were talking about this, which I know you work on this, is cavitations. And I don't think a lot of people know about this. And there's a direct link to, I know, with breast cancer, because there's that line directly to your breast from your jaw.

Can we talk a little bit about that and what people need to? to do as far as testing that and what it even means. Yeah, it's a big driver of autoimmune and let's just say this, unexplainable illness. When my following is about people who, I've done everything, I'm still sick, I don't know why, right? And they've typically been given a lot of labels, right? So that's the people that I help, you know,

and my passengers are because I was that person, right? Yeah. I'm paying to purpose, here we go again. But yeah, cavitations, it's estimated that 85% of chronic disease starts in the mouth. That's wild. Isn't it? It makes sense, though.

It's directly connected. Well, you know? Most microbiome gut problems is problematic here, right? And so we get wisdom to, and by the way, a lot of this is because the way we do dentistry, and we've learned a lot. It takes years to start changing what we do. And, you know, I mean, silver fillings that made me sick, right? It's like, you know, they contain 50% mercury. Yeah, the ADA still won't admit they're bad.

Really? But the funny thing is about that, that's silver filling that contains 50% mercury. It's called safe in your mouth. But the moment it comes out and hits the dental tray, it's considered hazardous waste. That is crazy. By all parameters. Hazardous waste. And the moment before it goes in, it's considered hazardous weight.

It has to be handled with certain guidelines. OSHA guidelines are very strict on how you handle a malcolm filling. Oh, but it's in your mouth. It's safe. Oh, no, it's worse. It's acid. It creates leaching. The life of the filling, mercury's vaporizing.

into your brain. I mean, that's how dangerous they are. But that's just one exposure. I wore contact lenses in the, you know, 70s, 80s, early 90s. It had thimerosol, a mercury derivative going right into our brains. And of course, fish exposure. Do they still have thimerosal now? No, they went out in the early 90s. Okay. Wow. But the vaccine load that we get, I mean, all of these things, and we could talk about aluminum exposures today is off the chain. But anyways, the cavitations, dentistry, we do some things wrong, right? So they take wisdom teeth out. It heals over, and we go about our business.

The problem is it's not a normal thing, just to yank wisdom teeth out. We had to do that because we chew differently. That's a whole other subject. Not the whole other thing. Jaws got more narrow. We can't fit wisdom teeth. Anyways, we take them out, and then it heals over, but these little cavities are left.

Think about little caves. Okay, so we talked about like spraying, the bugs, right? And you know, you can spray the bugs, but they'll keep coming back. Well, these guys live in these cavities. And what happens is they chronically are leaching into your bloodstream because there's all this blood flow into there. And anyways, and they weaken the immune system. And they cause autoimmune. And they also go down into the gut and decimate your bacteria. Yeah. So all of these cavitations literally are infected. And now we have testing to go in and determine what bacteria there.

We find all these nasty anaerobic bacteria. These are bacteria who can live without oxygen and they're deadly. We find parasites. We find spirochetes like lime and all these unbelievable infections that we never knew they were there. My point is this.

People go, I have all these infections that are trying to do this killer, that killer, ozone therapies, antibiotics, blah, blah, blah. And meanwhile, they hide right here in this cave. And they're just constantly causing more and more infections. More and more infections.

And they hide. They back up. They hide from the immune system. Oh, in the biofilms, right? Yeah, in the biofilms and the cavitation. So when these people are sick, we have to locate these and we have to go in and decavitate. I say we, but we work with biological dentists

around the country that do it right. Your average dentist doesn't even know how to look for them. Yeah, that's true. You can't see them on a regular x-ray. You have to find them on something called a cone beam, C-O-N-E-B-E-A-M, one word, cone beam. It's a 3-D-X-ray. And then the dentist has to be trained on how to identify them

because it has to have a special software that goes around different angles. And it goes, oh, there it is. You didn't see it from this angle. You didn't see it. You saw it from this angle. And they see the lucency. And then they go in and they drill in there and infection pours out. Wow.

If you ever saw it, I've watched many of these surgeries, it's like black oil comes out. Sometimes other colors, but it's pretty disgusting. Wow. Here's a crazy thing. I'll tell you, I could tell you a few stories. Ava was one of them. You knew Ava, right? Yeah, that's where she told me.

Let me start with her. Yeah. So, she was my client, and I wasn't going to take her on as a client, and because I didn't like taking teenagers on. They typically don't do what it takes, right? Yeah. I could tell within short order of conversation this one was going to, right? So I took her on, age 17, and I was working with her for a year or so, and I missed it.

She had all of her wisdom teeth. These things typically happen in areas where teeth were removed, wisdom teeth the most. She had no teeth removed and still had her wisdom teeth. I didn't think to do a cone beam because she was struggling. She just wasn't getting well like, I always say when I'm training doctors, if someone's not progressing as they should, there's still something upstream, meaning there's still something going on.

Maybe they're in a moldy home unknowing. Maybe they have one of these infections, et cetera. Yeah. So I said, I don't know what it was. but I said, you know what, let's get a cone beam anyway, even though you have your wisdom teeth. So we did. And one of the dentists looked at it and said,

I think there might be an infection behind this one wisdom teeth. I'm going to go in. I don't like the position of it anyway. He found a shitload of infection. Wow. Took it out. And then he went into another area that was just suspect, found more infection.

Wow. So I think she had two areas that were pretty severe. She left there. her knee pain, hip pain, all it went, went away, went away, out the door. Here's the crazy thing. They decavaded. Back then, they weren't doing bone graft and they weren't doing like bone graph with something called PRF. It's a technique to make sure it heals over and heals bones. It's hard to build vertical bone. Okay. Anyway, and she said to me, it's back. It's back. How do you know? My knee pain's back. I know it's back because it went away. They did a cone beam and it looked

okay, but they were like, I convinced them, go in anyway. She's convinced it was reinfected. Oh my God. She really went through it. Yeah, and that happened a few times. She knew every time because her pain came back. So, okay, you know, here, so I learned a lesson there, even so there wasn't to do a cone beam anyway. So now if someone's like sick and you can't figure out what you do a cone beam. But so this guy, Tommy, 21 years of liver pain and pain throughout his body. We're in fatigue and a lot of other symptoms. But Tommy had the means to go everywhere. He went to every clinic alternative. Before that, he went to Mayo. Matter of fact, so did she, by the way. They had, they were going everywhere. Yeah. And anyway, so we discovered on a cone beam he had cavitation.

He went to Dr. Jerry in New York and he gets it done. He texts me on the way out. Dan, is it possible that my pain is completely gone and is not going to come back because right now it's gone. I'm like, I don't know, maybe. I was like, I don't know, maybe. We'll see. And yeah, he never had that pain again. The liver pain disappeared. That is so crazy. Isn't that crazy? You know, people describe it when they get rid of these infections, like in the chair, people will say, I felt reconnected to my body. They describe it like a spiritual experience. And that's something called a meridian. Every tooth, numbered 32, is numbered and connected to different meridians. So like, you know, tooth one, two, three, four.

You can know that neurologically they're connected to different part of their body. That particular one was connected to her knees. And it was the exact meridian. Go on Google tooth meridian charts. Okay, that's wild. And the exact tooth, she was connected to her knee on the side of the knee. And breast cancer, you mentioned it. Yeah.

On the side of the infection, could be a root canal too, by the way. Oh, yeah. On the side of the infection, whether it be a cavitation or root canal on the side of breast cancer, right, nerve meridians. Well, when people describe that reconnected their body, that's that nerve meridian. It's like a circuit breaker. You know, you go down to your breaker goes off and you put it on, the light comes on. That's what the experience. Isn't that crazy?

As soon as that infection comes out, they feel that like, whoa, what was that? I mean, that's cool. And I love this because, you know, I think there's so many people that are suffering and they feel like they've done everything. You know, they've seen multiple doctors. I see messages from people all the time. I don't know what to do anymore. I've seen multiple functional medicine doctors.

We've done so many tests. I've done gut tests. I've done urine tests. I've done the whole gamut of it. And they're still sick and their lab work virtually looks perfect. I know. Courtney, I criticize. I have a lot of critique for functional medicine right now

because I feel like we're more into the fancy testing and all this and that and to biohacks. There's a place for all of it. And we've moved away from getting to cause. We need to look into people's homes. I can't tell you how many people, are sick and I go listen I you know you might have mold and there's a certain pattern right that these infection people take on mold people heavy metal people right and I have something called a neurotox

question you know that really dowels it in but anyways um yeah I'm like check your home oh no I had it tested it's fine they do an air test 99% of them are negative right let my one of my guys come in you know we have people like we have the dentist around the country they come in and they find it right yeah And then once we get them away from our number one, remove the source, now the body's able to detox. Now they start healing, right? Have you ever seen a specific pathway like that for psoriasis, where you feel like a lot of people that deal with psoriasis, there's this one or two things you kind of see a pattern? Yes, we simply go, oh, psoriasis is just, it's a gut microbiome issue. Yeah.

But see, there's always something upstream further from a gut issue. If it were only so easy to take probiotic and eat fermented food and fix the gut, everyone watches this is going, yeah, we did all that, right? No, because as I said, these infections here affect the gut. Infections here can drive psoriasis. And yes, the gut's part of it. And so there's also, when it comes on abruptly, we look at mold. If it comes on, it's more of a slow autoimmune related thing, then, you know, we look at other stressors, and that could even be heavy metals.

Interesting. Okay. Because my husband has been struggling with psoriasis, and we've been on a journey trying to figure out what the root causes and we've not figured it out. He could have accumulated heavy metals from his... Maybe even in utero. In utero, yeah. Lead, the number one cause of lead toxicity, which is linked to psoriasis. other skin problems is mom. Lead is stored in the bone. Our parents grew up hard in the lead generation. I mean, it was in gasoline. You know, I mean, it was everywhere. They stored it in the bone. And the problem is when you're pregnant, it's normal to lose bone. Estrogen, like, it's just normal. It's part of the process, but out comes the lead into utero. Yeah. And then so they carry it through

their life, and then they get their own exposures. And then I say look for the perfect storm. And now you put a cavitation on top of that, now you have a perfect storm. Yeah. And even if this wasn't what started it, it was the metal slowing down the detox pathways, and now the body can't deal with this stress. So you can have a cavitation for years and your body's healthy enough to deal with it, right? Meaning it adapts.

We talked about this. Yeah. It's adapting to that stress. And it's dealing with it until it's not. Until you move into the moldy home. And now it has that, the cavitation and the lead you accumulate, three stressors, three storms come together, catastrophic storm. It's called the perfect storm.

That's what we hear. When we hear people that their life, they can't figure it out, I train my doctors to look for a perfect storm. Did they accumulate metals somehow because they, you know, through life, you hold on to them? Do they have infection here? Are they living in a moldy home? Do they have an emotional trauma that's part of this perfect storm? All of it needs to be evaluated and dealt with.

And then the body will heal. If someone is not well or getting well, something's keeping that immune system triggered, and it's some stress or upstream. Yeah, I love that. So we keep talking about metals. I'm very curious. When we look at dentistry and a lot of kiddos are getting braces, retainers, a lot of metal in their mouths, you know, around middle school.

Are we setting them up for neurotoxicity? First of all, yeah, any metal in the mouth, the brain hates. Yeah. It's when you have two metals in a mouth, that's a battery. Yeah. And you put it in an acid. That is what a battery. So you have a battery effect.

It's measurable. You know, I mean, you can put the probes in a mouth, the measure, take the metal out, and you go, oh, well, you don't think that's affecting the brain. When I was sick, they measured, man, I was off the chain, like, because I had gold and I still had silver fillings, two silver fillings on this side. Damn. My electrical current, it was like, he showed it to me. And then he says, watch this. this, he took the gold filling out. The silver was still in, and my charge went, boom, because

those two opposing metals, it's called galvanism, by the way. Oh, yeah. And they create this battery charge. You could have plugged you into a car and charged the covered battery. But when that one metal came out and that charge went down, that was the first time I slept through the night. Oh my God. Wow. And that like a level of anxiety left. I mean, I wasn't cured because I still had so much mercury in my brain, but it was noticeable difference. So not a fan. Now they have ceramic braces, but, you know, orthodontistry is changing because now they're spreading the jaw. They're not forcing teeth into a position like they are. Yeah, they're doing the palate expanders now, which is awesome. Right now, orthodontistry is in a major, major change, and they're looking at

airway and, you know, all these other things. But, yeah, so not a fan. I mean, you know, porcelain is your better option. Okay, I was going to ask. Yeah. And is that for all the Also for fillings as well? Filling. Porcelain is the most inert. Okay. The best. Titanium implants, no, now it's all ceramic. I did not get an implant where I had my root canal taken out.

And I did that because I read, root canals are bad. Yeah. And how every root canal is bad. Every root canal has a level of infection that your body has to deal with until it can't. We already had that conversation. And but I wouldn't get it because all they did back then was titanium. So I have a zircon. It's the strongest form of ceramic, zirconium oxide zircon.

And it's a bridge, but when this fails, it will. I'll get a zircon implant and then have a permanent tooth on that. Got it. Okay. So there's a lot for people, a lot of different avenues for people to go down if they're suffering and looking for answers, which I think is really great. Something that we kind of touched on, but I want to talk about this further because I think it's really important.

So you've been talking a lot about the importance of the cell membrane. fats. And I'm thinking, okay, well, 60% of Americans' diets is mostly comprised, or sorry, it's 20%. 20% of Americans' diets are comprised of these seed oils, these super-inflammatory oils. What is your thought, your take on seed oils? I don't eat them. Now, again, I say this, I love seed oil in seeds. And vegetable oil, you know, canola oil, right? I mean, vegetable, I love vegetable oil in vegetables, right? But the moment it comes out, it goes potentially rancid. The scientific term of that is adulterated.

So there's omega-3 and omega-6 fats in seed oil or seeds, and it's very healthy, right? Yeah. But when these fats become denatured, bad, rancid, whatever you want to say, they still make their way into your cell membranes, which omega-6 that we could talk about has gotten a lot of bad press because arguably people, percentage-wise have way too much omega-6. You know, if you spot one ratio, one to four, but, you know, in nature there's a span one-to-one to maybe one-to-six max, maybe one-to-five, it's argued. But anyways, there's a span of ratio of omega-3 to omega-6. Yeah. Six being the more,

like the four, if you will, omega-3 being the one. In nature, if you just eat natural, you'll never go outside of that ratio. But people today, because they're ingesting all these oils, have like 20-to-one ratio of omega-6. It's not good. Not good. good but because of that omega-6 got a bad rap but it's so important in the membrane that these rancid ones go there and it disrupts that membrane i already said that disrupts your hormones yeah creates brain fog energy loss right and it inflames it you can't get your good nutrition in so now your supplements don't even work right diet changes don't worry you can't get toxins out the cell slowly accumulates toxins wearing down the ability to get rid of toxins so it builds up even more

then your bad genes get turned on. Yes. All of that. So I talked about toxins being a big culprit, but so are these bad fats. They're toxins. Yeah. They have a magnet into the membrane because that's where they belong. But so now that denatured cell goes there and the cell loses its ability to function.

And that's why they're so disruptive. But here's the worst news of all. The worst news of all. If you eat sugar, you and I hate sugar. Yeah. Right? Well, your body burns it. you have the ice cream or the sugar thing,

your body has an ability to burn it, especially when you're healthy. And it goes away. These fats don't. So they don't affect you for a few hours like sugar. They don't affect you for a few days. They don't affect you for a few months. The latest study, two years.

Yep. They don't leave the body for two years. Yeah, exactly. So you're talking about that. And the reason that is is because they accumulate in the cells, in the membranes, and therefore they're creating cellular. dysfunction for potentially two years. So I'll make an exception and eat some sugar for dessert,

but I will never make an exception on eating these rancid seed oils. Yeah. Could a seed oil be cold pressed perfectly and, you know, be okay? Yeah, but that's not what you're getting in the potato chips, the pretzels, the, I mean, French fries. French fries. When you go to whole foods, if you go down the their entire hot bar. It's all canola oil. I know. I know. It's all canola oil. I know. It's It's disgusting. And most of the foods in the aisles, they have seed oils in them too. Yeah. So, you know, just because you're at a whole food paying premium dollar doesn't mean you're not getting exposed. And you need to get these things out of your diet.

This is one of the things that you and your family can do Monday, if you want, I don't know what day it is. But I don't know why we always say Monday because we're at seminars, you know, and you go back from the seminar, start this Monday. But you literally just say, I'm not going to buy a processed food with a seed oil, get it. Yeah. What are the vegetable oil? Not that's a seed. Corn oil, corn oil, soy oil. Safflower oil, sunflower, sunflower, sunflower oil.

Did we say soybean, corn oil? Yeah. There's like seven of the top ones, but avoid those. Yes, exactly. Those are incredibly inflammatory. They're not good for you. I want to ask you about cholesterol, because I know that you say it's not the villain, and I know that we're starting to finally, thank God, have a larger conversation about cholesterol, and maybe we got it wrong. What did we get wrong about cholesterol? We got a lot wrong. First of all, total cholesterol, there's no study that shows that total cholesterol actually is linked to heart disease.

Okay, and that's not my opinion. The Cochrane collaboration, this is a group that if you want to prove something right or wrong, Cochran does it. And here's why. They look at every study that they can find on the subject. Okay, maybe it's 2,000, 3,000 studies. Then they narrow it down to what they would call a good study. Who did the study? How is it done? They evaluate the methodology. This is what they do. Yeah. And then they come out with, then they evaluate maybe these 10 studies that they pass their

criteria. And then they make a judgment on it. There's no better way. Yeah. And I can tell you this, that there's no scientific evidence that total cholesterol is actually linked to heart disease. Okay, it gets worse. Okay. So, and there's been the Farmington study. I mean, this is not my opinion. LDL, the bad cholesterol. I'm going to make the argument that it's the most important cholesterol. And I'm not saying HDL is not important it is. But LDL is at the top of the hormone chain, meaning that you are hormonally healthy

when you have higher levels of LDL. You make, when we take statins and do things to lower LDL, and then we end up in big trouble hormonally. Yeah. Okay. And it's bad for your brain. It's bad for your brain. Cholesterol is the most important fat for the brain.

You know what's next? Saturated fat. So here's the funny thing. if I, on the street, and I've done this, I went to New York and interviewed people on the street, you should do it. Oh, I need to do that. And it's fun, too, right? And you say, what's the worst fat?

They'll say, cholesterol, that's saturated fat. It's like, those are the most important for your brain, your cell membranes even, right? I mean, like, so important, right? Yes. Anyway, so it's kind of funny because that's what, you know, bad information has done. You know, the low-fat days have caused all this. Cholesterol, kill you. No, cholesterol is so important.

You know, by the way, normal cholesterol used to be 350. Then they lowered it to 300. Then it was 250. And now it's like you'll end up on a dang statin if you're over 200. You know who's doing that, though? It's a pharmaceutical companies because they want to sell more statins. So they continue to lower the threshold because then you come in and your doctor goes up. That's it.

Time for a statin. 50 billion dollar industry. Yep. And shareholders are, like, you better damn welcome with another reason to give a statin. They were actually giving it to them for a while for memory issues when it caused. brain problems. Oh my God. When we're seeing such a rise in Alzheimer's and dementia, I think it's link. Well, we do, we have studies to show that it's linked to the statins. Absolutely. I mean, listen, we are not saying anyone to come off or come on any medication. No, no, no, no. Yeah,

definitely not saying that. But what I'm saying is, you better not take your doctor's word on this. It's your life. It's your health. And you better look at the studies on this because statins, yeah, okay, you know, here's what matters. I give you a great analogy. Because people, there's something called particles. Okay, cholesterol doesn't just float around your blood. It needs a vehicle to carry it. So that's the particle. So when people say, is there anything about cholesterol that matters?

Well, there is. Okay, so the number of particles that carry cholesterol, when that gets too many, it's inflammatory. Because the real cause of heart disease is inflammation. Exactly. It's not cholesterol. Let's be clear. Okay, now the size of the particle matters. So here's the analogy.

Think of the particle as a car. So it's carrying the people that's the cholesterol. Okay, you got the vision. So the car is the particle, the people are the cholesterol. Okay, so let me ask this question. What matters more in a traffic jam? The number of people in the car or the number of cars. It's a great point.

It's the number of cars. Yeah. People in the cars is irrelevant. It's irrelevant. So how we're measuring your total LDL as an example. We're looking at how full the particles are. And that's giving us the measurement. So high cholesterol is a particle.

that's really full. You have too many full particles, right? So we're looking at a car loaded of people saying, oh my gosh, that's horrible. It doesn't make the traffic jam worse. The number of cars does. So that's, if you have too many particles, it's a problem. And the size of the particle matters. Small particles get into the luma, that's the arterial wall, and they can drive inflammation. Bigger particles, fluffy particles are better. And that's what carries into your hormones. So we can measure the size and the number of particles. So what should people actually be looking at? Because I will tell you, and I've been hearing a lot of stories from people having similar experiences where when I started eating more red meat, because we've demonized red meat for so long, right? And saturated fats and cholesterol. It's all.

Exactly. Avoid all of that. We saw my LDL levels rise just a little bit, but my doctor said she actually wasn't concerned about that at all because she was looking at, you know, my CRP, which is my inflammation markers. And she was looking at, okay, so she was looking at other things. and she goes, I'm not worried about this. Your LDL is a little bit higher, but I know that you're eating more red meat and your inflammation markers are really low, and that's really what we should be looking for.

Yeah, that's right. Because your cholesterol went up, arguably, you immediately started doing better hormonally, you know, and your brain started doing better. Oh, my health has significantly drastically gotten better since I started doing that. And by the way, my father, you know, he, somehow he was just, you know, he was this guy from, you know, Italy, his grandfather came, from Italy, right? He was born when he got here. So he knew nothing about healthy. He was a

Marine. He was a bricklayer. It's like, but he just always got it right. You know, he didn't like, he was like, yeah, we're not vaccinating this kid anymore because I like was putting up a fosite. It's like he just knew it. He would throw antibiotics away. I never took an antibiotic in my life. It's like, you know, my kids either. My kids. And they're grown up now, right? It's like, so they never have. It's an anomaly in the day and age. It's just a philosophy. It's like, you know, Because I grew up from my father. Sickness is good. Your body's getting healthier.

So no wonder my thing with COVID was, let's get COVID. Let's get it. It came from my father, the Italian bricklayer. But, you know, he had 300, almost 400 cholesterol his whole life. The doctors were always trying to put him on a medication. I bet. Wouldn't do it, right? Yeah.

And his heart functioned his whole life, right? His smoking lung cancer got him. Yeah. But irrelevant of this cholesterol that was going to kill him and never did. You know, but look, you know, it's, you know, it's, The information out there is so bad around cholesterol. And I think that it's a really deadly position right now that we're forcing cholesterol down. It affects your brain.

It affects your joints. It affects your liver. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, this story always makes me so mad. And simultaneously kind of makes me laugh because it's just such a joke. So Hector's dad, unfortunately, had a heart attack last year. Thank God he survived. And afterwards, they put him through a program.

The hospital puts you through a program after you've had a heart attack, where they teach you nutrition and a registered dietitian comes in and they teach you, you know, the dash diet. Well, so I've been, you know, I've been helping his dad because, of course, he's getting all this horrible information and he goes into one of these sessions and his dietitian goes off about how canola oil, oh, it's so heart healthy for you and you want to cook with canola oil and saturated fats. Exactly.

It's so good for you, especially post heart attack. And his dad raises his hand and goes, well, my daughter-in-law has actually been telling me that canola oil is really inflammatory and it's actually really bad for you and I should be avoiding that. This dietician was so triggered. Not only did she go off on this like 10-minute tangent about how healthy it was, the following week came in with a 30-minute presentation on how healthy canola oil is for you. And this is to a room of people that have had heart attacks and she's pushing this canola oil on them. And I just, it, God, it just makes me so mad because the medical system has this so backwards and they refuse to change their stance on it.

polyunsaturated fats, you know, again, could be good when they're protected and where you get them from. Here, this is very controversial. This will go viral for you. This is wonderful. I hate fish oil. Okay, please tell me about this. Yeah. Okay, so I love fish oil and fish.

Yeah. Same point, okay? So you look at when they say polyunsaturate, well, like, that means nothing to people. Okay, but you're looking at the amount of double bonds in a fat, okay? So poly means many double bonds. Yeah. Saturated means. no double bonds. Okay, it's saturated, no double bonds, right? So we know this. Things like

lard, tallow, you can fry in that, you can deep fry in those and not denature them. They're hydrogenated. There's no double bonds. And then you go up, you have a mono-unsaturated fat, olive oil. It takes heat a little bit better, but we can still make it go bad, right? Yeah. You can still, you shouldn't fry an olive oil, you shouldn't go over certain temperatures, right? Because it has a polyunsaturated fat. Let's go up the chain a little bit. Two and three double bonds. Now we enter into seed oils, more fragile. Yeah. Okay? You know, that's not my opinion. This is the science. More fragile. So we have to be more careful with seed oils. That's why you're better off leaving them in seeds. Even though you could

potentially press it, cold press it, not put in the light, keep it in the right temperature, and it could be okay. And consume it pretty quickly because they go rancid as they sit on the shelf. Yeah. So it could be okay, right? Put in a processed food, guaranteed bad. And that's where we're getting our bad exposures mostly, right? Fish oil, guess how many double bonds? Five and six. Oh, wow. Yeah, more fragile than seed oils, people.

Yeah. So, I mean, it's like the experts that really know about this will tell you, it goes rancid the moment it enters your mouth. It's meant for a cold water fish. You know, it's like it is absolutely goes rancid. It can't even handle your own body temperature. That's all bad. And your body immediately has to start using antioxidants.

And, you know, it's like, it's crazy. So at some level, it's going rancid as it's going in. It's like fish oil is bad. So what is the solution if you want to make sure you have a good amount of omega-3s and omega-6 is? Okay, first of all, omega-3 is in plenty of foods, right? Yeah. Grass-fed meat, you know, grass-fed butter, even seeds, right? Yeah.

Not seeds, omega-3, right? There's a lot of foods, certain vegetables, right? So you get a mega-3 and omega-6 and a lot of different foods. They're called the parent oils, omega-3 and omega-6. What is not, and they're essential, essential, meaning we need them, okay? body can't make them. DHA that you get from fish is not essential. Your body makes it. Well, of course it's not because most of the population doesn't live near water. Exactly. Cold water. They don't live near there. And warm water fish, they don't have DHA or too little to matter, right? So that's why cold

water, big fish in the ocean have so much DHA. And be clear, I'm not saying it's bad, right? I love it in fish. Eat salmon. I think there's a lot of benefits to this, right? But the fact is, is that your body has the ability to make it. Now, people will argue, yeah, but that conversion gets hindered in some people. You know, that is true, right? It can, in some people, that can mean, they don't convert well. You know, there's debating science there, but I think that there's some truth to it. You can take things like something called Ahi flour, which gives you DHA in its non-ranced form. It's not a fish oil. You know, I mean, so, you know, there's obviously, you know, some other things you can do, some allergies you can eat that or take heat better, things like that.

But yeah, so your body has the ability to make DHA, and you don't need a lot of it. And when you take fish oil, they say some of the biggest damages, you're taking a pharmaceutical overdose. Yeah, you're taking too much of it. Way too much. And it becomes way out of balance. Yeah. And it becomes really damaging.

Fascinating. Okay, you have had the best explanation of that for me because I've been, it's funny, they're in this nutrition world right now. We're kind of debating back and forth whether or not we're. should be taking fish oil because, you know, on one end of the spectrum, the traditional science says, oh, you really need it. It's incredibly important for you and especially for your brain and, you know, your hormones and everything. But then on the opposite spectrum, now people are starting to speak out and say, well, it's rancid. And so everyone's kind of going, what do we do? What do we

doing the studies on positive fish oil? I mentioned Cochrane Collaboration. Yes. Challenge me on this. Cochrane collaboration has done several studies on this. And you know what they find every time. And for different things. They did it for cancer. They did it for colon cancer. They did it for, you know, many different conditions. They've done one on fluoride too. Cochran. Yeah, Cochran, yeah. And they took all these studies. They brought it down just as I explained earlier. And every one of them, not only do they find no benefit, it's the opposite. It caused increases in cancer. It caused, it's not good. And again, it's not my opinion. Cochran did these studies. So what do you say about, because, so I heard this and then I stopped taking fish oil. And then there's a certain

brand who I love and trust, so I don't want to name them because I just, I love their products, and I think they're amazing. They get theirs from caviar, and they say that there's this different, and then it's not rancid, and it's a sense it's a different form because it has those, what does it have in there? The SMPs, is that what they're called? They have a more protective. So I might argue, like in the Azazanthan, right? Yes, yeah. That you could get it to, you know, the source intact, because there's protective measures around it. It's, kind of mimicking being in the caviar, right? Yeah.

But the problem is what happens when it goes in your body, right? So that's where the study would have to be done. Is there enough of it to protect it through, you know, through your system, through your GI? I don't know the answer. Okay. Well, it's something we need to continue to explore. If you can afford it. Yes.

I know. It's loaded with, you know, again, I mean, not just DHA, but I mean, you know, all kinds of essential fatty acids that are very important. Yeah, everyone keeps telling me I need to eat it while pregnant. which I need to get over. I do like it, but I'm kind of on the fence where it kind of eat, like, I don't know, it just eeks me a little bit. I'm like, ugh. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think it's good, so I do need to be eating it more. What are three foods people think are healthy but are actually wrecking their cellular health? Oh, God, I love that. Three foods that are

and people think that are healthy. Yeah, okay. There's a lot, but let's be more clever, right? But we mentioned it, I don't know if we mentioned this or mine, gluten-free products. Yes. Yeah, they think they're healthy. And again, I'm not making, I mean, some people have to eat gluten-free. But the gluten-free products, they're putting a lot of super sugars, and it raises glucose, and they're putting all kinds of other chemicals in it. They're high and glyphosate.

It's become the new marketing strategy for junk food. Yes. And then there's cassava flour in a lot of them, which contains arsenic and heavy metals because it's concentrated. The roots come from the ground. And it's so, yeah, that's one right there. Yeah. Okay, that's one.

You know, I think that a lot of things are now labeled. And I stole this from you, right? It's like on the front of the label is the billboard. Yeah. So I'm always cautious of what they're putting on the billboard. People will use organic and they think it's healthy. Flip it over and it's a list of long ingredients. Yeah.

And it's a list of other things. So be cautious of these things when you think it's healthy, you know, and it's not. Here's a big one that probably a lot of people are guilty of diet sodas, you know, because they think, oh, I need this for my weight. I don't want to put on weight. I'm a fear of gaining weight. And I always make this joke. If you ask people, and I do, why are you drinking that?

They never say they're afraid of getting fat or they want to lose weight or, you know. No, they say because they like to taste better. It's because the artificial sweeteners in the diet sodas are more addictive for the brain. And I believe them, they do like it more. The first time you drink it, you don't. But then you get addicted literally at the level of the brain. They're cytotoxins, and the addiction's great.

So you are drinking it. You're not lying because you like it more. But the reality is you started drinking it because you're afraid to gain weight. It's opposite. Studies show that it actually caused weight gain. And you know that they're addicted because they defend it to the death.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You try to talk to somebody. about diet soda and they get so defensive about it. It's more addictive than regular soda. I'm not making an argument for either. Yeah, exactly. Those are the three. Okay, I love that. What's one thing destroying people's health today that almost no doctor is screening for? Cavitation. Those are the infections. Even most dentists aren't screening for it. And it's decimating health. Yes. Yeah. Okay, so go get cavitations, find a biological dentist, and do a cone beam scan.

Yep. Love that. What are the hidden everyday exposures you believe? or silently destroying people's health. Cavitations. Silent killer root canals. I'll put them in the same categories, hidden infections in the mouth. Mold, because people, you don't see it. It's hidden.

You don't smell it when you live there. I might walk in your house and smell it. But it grows in dark places. It's literally evil. I hate mold. And it's one of those things that people will say I tested for it because they did an air test and it's behind the wall

so they're not actually testing. So I absolutely despise, despise it. And we, you know, we talked a lot about heavy metals because here's the killer here. They did a blood test like I did a urine test or a hair test. They said, oh, I'm fine. Or they do it and they do a little bit of detox and they think they're okay. And the fact is, it's accumulated in your brain and deeper tissues for years. And when I work with people, I teach them the process so they can do it long enough to actually matter.

Why are so many women today struggling with hormones, even though their labs look normal? What's really happening there? Man, we nailed this one earlier just by chance. But, yeah, because so many women have cellular inflammation driven by bad fats that we discussed and toxins, right? And your receptors to hormones are on those membranes. When they're inflamed, you damage those receptors. Think about it. It's like a cell phone.

If you're in a room of cement walls, this is not working. Even if you have a $1,500 cell phone, useless. Yeah. Okay? It has to get through the wall to that receptor, the cell phone tower that's out there. Once it does, ah, communication works. No different than the hormone has to connect to that cell phone tower on your membrane. Get its message in, you feel great.

Everything's wonderful. But when it's not, you can make those blood levels normal or they could be normal, like in my case, and you go, oh, I don't feel well. Yeah. That's why. And there's so many people that are struggling with this. You know, they'll go and get their labs checked and then doctors will say, well, they're normal. I do want to say this actually, though, what is defined as normal now is really changing

because the average of the American population is really sick. So we're also basing this off of numbers of people that are sick. And so the average has changed and now what is so common is considered to be normal, but it's not normal. It's just because it's so common. Exactly. That's the problem with really almost any blood test, right? Yeah. Because you start to look at the average and it's getting like, I guess it's going like this. Yeah. Well, this was so awesome. I feel like we covered so much ground. I'm so grateful for your time. Thank you so much for coming on. Thanks for having me. Yeah, and please let everybody know where they can find you. Make sure that everybody goes and follows him on Instagram.

Yeah, I mean, Dr. Pompa, that's my Instagram, right? Dr. Pompa, D-R-P-O-M-P-Pa, and that's my website. And you can go, if you want to watch a whole webinar I did on the cell, there's no charge for it, but go to Pompapopoprogram.com. You can watch it. Awesome. Thank you so much for the work that you're putting out there. You're helping so many. people. Yeah, I love doing it. Thank you so much for listening to the Real Foodology podcast. This is a Wellness Loud production produced by Drake Peterson. The theme song is by Georgie. You can watch the full video version of this podcast inside the Spotify app or on YouTube. As always, you can leave us a voicemail by clicking the link in our bio.

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