Realfoodology - COVID Vaccine Side Effects, Detox Protocols & Long-Term Health Impacts | The Wellness Company

Starting point is 00:00:00 on today's episode of The Real Foodology Podcast. COVID vaccination in women of childbearing potential, men of childbearing potential, and in pregnant women was a giant disaster. It's never done for other new experimental drugs. It never should have been done for the COVID vaccines. These special groups should have been excluded. Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode

Starting point is 00:00:23 of The Real Foodology Podcast. I am your host, Courtney Swan, and today's guest is Dr. Peter McCullough. I was so excited when we booked this episode. If you were following me during COVID, you know that I have been following this man for a long time. I'm so grateful that I found his work then because he was sharing a lot of science and research that was going against the mainstream narrative. And guess what? He ended up being right about all of it.

Starting point is 00:00:51 He is so incredible. He is so well-spoken. He is so smart. He is one of the most published cardiologists in his field. He has over 700 published peer review medical journals. And we talk about that. He has over 700 published peer review medical journals. And we talk about that. But more importantly, we talk about

Starting point is 00:01:08 if you did get the vaccine, things that you can do now, things to test for, what to look for, if you're dealing with any sort of side effects and you're concerned about maybe what it looks like for the future, we talk about all of that. We talk about how you can detox. This is a very requested episode from my audience because when I shared the few times that I did about this product

Starting point is 00:01:31 that dissolves the spike proteins, I am still getting messages to this day about it. And for good reason. A lot of people took this and a lot of people are concerned now about the science that's coming out afterwards. But let me tell you, this is such an amazing episode. Do not shy away from it. Do not be scared. Do not be like, you know what, I'm just not actually going to listen to this because I'm terrified of what he's going to say. Because actually the episode made me feel so much better about all my loved ones that got it. He has amazing tangible tips. We talk about the science behind everything. And it just was such a fascinating episode. I really hope that you love it. If you could take a moment to rate and review the podcast,

Starting point is 00:02:05 it would mean so much to me, really especially for this episode in particular, because this is such a hot topic that I can already see that I'm probably gonna get some hate comments and ratings and reviews that are gonna try to bring down my podcast. But I just felt like this was a really important episode to get out there.

Starting point is 00:02:20 And Peter McCullough is such a pleasure. I loved sitting down with him. He's such a sweet man and really just wants to help people and it's so apparent in this episode. So I really hope that you enjoy it. Also, stay tuned to the very end. We're going to share a code and a link if you want to get his spike detox protocol at a discount. All right. Well, Dr. McCullough, thank you so much for coming on the Real Foodology podcast. I can't believe I finally made it here. And it's right here in Dallas. I just live a few miles away.

Starting point is 00:02:51 So amazing. Well, I was actually here filming for Dr. Phil. And we've been talking to your team about bringing you on. And when I realized that it was in Dallas and you're in Dallas, I was like, I need to get Peter on this podcast. Well, we made it. We made it happen. So much to talk about, make America healthy again. It's on everybody's minds. It is, and it's very exciting. I've been waiting for this for a long time, and I'm sure you feel the same way.

Starting point is 00:03:16 I started Real Foodology in 2011, so I've been talking about this for 14 years. And for a long time, I felt like I was really screaming into a void. And you know, some people were listening and paying attention, but it's really cool to see that people are really starting to wake up and pay attention. I agree. I've always counseled my patients. I think every doctor, nurse, and healthcare professional

Starting point is 00:03:38 should have the ability to give brief advice. Of course, brief is important. Yeah. And, you know, when I give my brief advice with respect to food and diet, I say really there's two elements to this. Healthy choices and portion control. Yeah. And emphasis on healthy choices. And unfortunately what's happening right now, many Americans think they're making healthy choices, but our food corporations are adding so many additives and fillers and preservatives in there. And it's also happening in our restaurants too. So if you think that you're going out

Starting point is 00:04:12 and you're getting a healthy meal, there's a lot of additives and stuff in there that they don't have in other countries. And it's really sad because Americans want to be healthy and they're trying really hard. They're trying really hard to feed their families well. And they're getting duped by these large corporations. About 25% of all meals are eaten outside the home.

Starting point is 00:04:28 So that's a big part of it, and you're right, that's where you lose control completely. And many, many, many generations, including mine, was raised during the time where the moniker was clean your plate, clean your plate. There's people less privileged than you than the world. And as the portion sizes got bigger and bigger, and the reason why they got bigger

Starting point is 00:04:53 is not because the restaurants want to give away more food, it's because they were responding to consumer demand. So consumers felt like, listen, that was kind of a small portion, I'm not very satisfied. And the restaurants would get this feedback. So portion size have increased. And again, people lose control over food content.

Starting point is 00:05:10 And that's an area where you're quite an expert. Yeah, exactly. Well, we were just speaking right before we started recording. I spoke to the Senate last fall with Senator Ron Johnson, Bobby Kennedy, Michaela and Jordan Peterson, the food babes, so many people. And I I'm really grateful for that opportunity because I feel like that really started the spark of interest for Americans in this country with Maha. I feel like it kind of prepped people because all of those videos that we did went super

Starting point is 00:05:36 viral and everyone started going, wait, yeah, why are American companies making different products here in the US for American children versus what they're making for American or sorry children in the UK? Do you know about this? Yeah, well, the Froot Loops and all the other products. It's astonishing. I was recently on Fox Business with Liz McDonald and she had the data about how so many food additives, you know, dyes, preservatives, fillers, thickeners, how they're prohibited,

Starting point is 00:06:06 for instance, in Europe, but they're allowed in the United States. And there's been a loophole called generally recognized as safe, G-R-A-S, that previously the company's just asserted, oh, it's generally recognized as safe, trust our judgment, that may close. I really hope so. Bobby actually just mentioned this recently that he wants to get rid of that. And I think it's incredible. So hopefully, hopefully we can get rid of that.

Starting point is 00:06:31 And they just announced about the baby formula. They're going to clean that up, which I'm really excited about too. There's a lot of really exciting things happening right now. For sure. You know, people don't realize how public health policy can favorably affect foods, particularly with respect to fortification. This has been something the Maha group hasn't talked about yet.

Starting point is 00:06:51 But when I was a kid, I'll never forget the children in my school with spina bifida. And spina bifida is a problem where the lower end of the spinal canal, the neural tube, doesn't develop normally. And the children had a characteristic gait of a pigeon-toed gait. What was terrible is they had no control over their rectum. Even kids as they went through K-12 had to wear diapers and it was very noticeable by

Starting point is 00:07:16 the other kids. It largely afflicted the Irish. Now, I'm Irish. You could be Irish as well by looking at your features. It was all due to a lack of folate in the diet. And the Irish are particularly affected with an impairment of methylation called MTHFR, methylene tetrahydropholic acid reductase deficiency.

Starting point is 00:07:37 And through public health efforts, the food supply was fortified with folate. So we saw folate in a whole variety of foods, cereals, what have you. And honestly, the rate of neural tube defects plummeted. And you don't see little kids with spina bifida before. Just recently on my sub stack, Focal Points, everybody should subscribe to Focal Points,

Starting point is 00:08:00 it's free, get your email every day. We have an analysis in a peer-reviewed published literature that now has suggested that the minimum daily requirement of vitamin D, which is set at 600 international units a day, really should be over 9,000 international units a day. No wonder we have manifestations of vitamin D deficiency, including osteoporosis, cardiovascular disease, neurodegenerative disease, predilection to infections. Yeah, vitamin D rates are super low in this country and a lot of chronic diseases are connected to that, right? A deficiency in vitamin D. Okay, so I want to move the direction of this a little bit because the reason that I found you was during COVID.

Starting point is 00:08:48 And if you're down to talk about it, I would really like to talk about the spike proteins and all that. So I just first of all want to say I'm so incredibly grateful for the work that you've done over the years because I know it hasn't been easy. You were or you are one of the most published cardiologists in your field, right? Yeah, so I want people to really understand that because I know before you came out and you started talking about the vaccines

Starting point is 00:09:12 and everything that you were really concerned about, everyone was, you were revered as this cardiologist that has been published so many times in medical journals. And then they really tried to smear you when you came out against this narrative. And I, first of all, I wanna know what was that like? What was your experience with that? I was stunned.

Starting point is 00:09:31 And as you mentioned, I'm in practice as an internist cardiologist. I'm trained in epidemiology, widely published. And the publication part of this is important because every single peer-reviewed publication as the first or senior author, that's really where the line is being towed by academic physicians. It's almost equivalent to a PhD thesis. Each one of them, some manuscripts take two to four years to publish. These are labors. These are major, major deals. They become part of

Starting point is 00:10:01 permanent medical history. The average professor of medicine has about 25 of these listings in the National Library of Medicine. I'm over 700. That's incredible. 700. I was over 600 going into the pandemic and I had lectured all over the world. I was the named endowed visiting professor at Harvard in 2019 in two divisions, cardiology and nephrology.

Starting point is 00:10:25 And so when the pandemic basically be set upon us, I didn't see it coming. I got into response mode like so many other people. And I started waiting. Where is Harvard Infectious Disease Department of Medicine to give us a plan on what we should do. Well, it's not coming. It's not coming. Well, how about Mayo Clinic? There's nothing there. How about Emory? Nothing there. And we kept going and going. Wait a minute. Who is going to step up and give us an approach on how to treat patients to avoid two major bad outcomes,

Starting point is 00:11:00 hospitalization and death? It became very clear we were all gonna get this. We couldn't avoid it. And what my patients told me, they said, Dr. McCullough, listen, I'm willing to get this illness. I'm seeing everybody else get it too. But I don't wanna be hospitalized, I don't wanna die. And to this day, our blue ribbon marquee institutions do not have a protocol to be deployed to help their patients avoid hospitalization and death. We're five years into this. This is the biggest shortcoming.

Starting point is 00:11:31 The biggest collapse of academic medicine I could ever have imagined. It just doesn't make sense, right? You would think that you wouldn't want to flood the hospitals. So why are we not getting people on protocols early so that we can avoid them going to the hospital? Because also, pretty much everyone knew once you went to the hospital, it was possibly game over. Well, that's an important observation. If we look at death, virtually every death occurred in the hospital.

Starting point is 00:12:00 Deaths were not occurring in the home. So there was something about the hospital that appeared to be in the causal pathway of death. We're talking about acute COVID-19. This is a respiratory illness where, like any other acute upper respiratory tract infection, the principles are throughout medicine, whether it's a virus, a bacteria, or other cause,

Starting point is 00:12:22 early treatment is always better than waiting too late. Yeah, yeah, it was interesting. I also had a similar experience as you. So I have a master's of science in nutrition and I studied the human body a lot in my master's program and I also knew a lot about the immune system. And I remember very early on, because I had a following back then on Instagram as well,

Starting point is 00:12:43 I was very careful because I didn't want to say anything definitively but I was going on my stories and saying, hey, you know, I do know this about the immune system. It's good to make sure your vitamin D levels are up. Let's make sure you get vitamin C. And I was very careful to say, you know, obviously we don't know what how this is going to actually affect COVID-19 but I do know these things about the immune system. And if you do these few things, you'll probably be in pretty good shape. And they started censoring me. My stories were getting deleted, my reels were getting deleted.

Starting point is 00:13:09 Just helpful things like that. Just really simple stuff like that. General helpful advice. Oh yeah. Was being censored. Yeah. And there was the hashtag, I can't remember what the exact hashtag was,

Starting point is 00:13:21 but I think it was hashtag natural immunity on Instagram was blocked for years. You couldn't even use that hashtag. Yeah. So that type of advice that we've just heard from Courtney would apply to the common cold. It would apply to influenza. It's just, these are general observations supported

Starting point is 00:13:42 by many, many peer-reviewed papers that the immune system, for sure when there's deficiencies, if there's deficiencies of vitamin D, vitamin C, zinc, and we can go on and on, clearly it puts people at risk. And the converse is true. If we supplement, very likely the immune system is supported. So what we've learned through the pandemic is, for instance, zinc in low levels, certainly during acute infection, vitamin C for sure, vitamin D for sure, echinacea, elderberry, garlic has anti-infective properties. In fact, there is a paper from Poland that I quoted that healthier diets,

Starting point is 00:14:26 and there's a way to grade healthier diets in terms of the macronutrient composition, were protective against severe disease and the occurrence of disease with acute COVID-19 compared to unhealthy diets. I mean, this was in the peer reviewed comparative literature. So if anything early on, you know, we should have had the public health messaging of,

Starting point is 00:14:51 come on, everybody, this is serious. Let's everybody get on a healthy diet. Let's get on a fitness regimen. Let's consider supplements that, you know, in this category, Courtney's category, of general healthy advice to get ready. And as we analyze the data after the fact now, it all made a huge difference for those who took these positive steps. Since turning 40, there's a couple things that I'm really hyper focused on right

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Starting point is 00:17:40 was it four or more comorbidities? Right. So this principle of risk stratification was very important. And we learned early that the biggest risk factor for being hospitalized or dying with COVID was older age. Then it was medical problems like diabetes, heart disease, kidney failure, obesity, cancer. And so because of the fact that even 40% of the deaths at the end of the day occurred in people who were beyond their life expectancy. So if life expectancy for a woman,

Starting point is 00:18:13 let's say at that time was 83, it means people in their upper 80s towards the end of their lives. Conversely, the risks for someone like you, young, healthy, vibrant, exercising, good diet, were so sufficiently negligible that I completely concurred with Dr. Bhattacharya and Martin Kaldorf and Sunecha Gupta

Starting point is 00:18:34 with the Great Barrington Declaration. For people like you and me, there should have been no restrictions, none. No lockdowns, no social distancing, no masking, no hand sanitizers, just going about our lives as we normally do. 97% of people in our country developed COVID-19. Think about all the efforts to reduce the spread,

Starting point is 00:18:58 masks, hand sanitizers, social distancing. How about contact tracing? Oh, I touched you, you touched me. All of that was a complete waste of time. What we should have had the operating principle of listen, this is like a bad influenza, everyone's gonna get it. Let's brace ourselves and take reasonable steps. That would have been a much better public policy.

Starting point is 00:19:20 Yet to this day, we haven't heard that type of paradigm expressed by our public health officials or anybody really high up in government. I mean, it's a travesty. And we were just talking about comorbidities and it reminded me of something that I found so fascinating and I'm wondering if my listeners have heard this. So I remember in the beginning, because it was a respiratory infection, they were really concerned about smokers.

Starting point is 00:19:41 But then what did you find about smokers they were actually protected and why is that? Very interesting. I was greatly worried about smoking. Now, when I was a kid, smoking was 50% prevalence in adults. Now it's about 17.6%. What we know there is that nicotine actually, because smokers actually uniquely keep their nicotine levels up all the time.

Starting point is 00:20:04 If you ever notice, they're always going outside to smoke when the nicotine levels go down. That nicotine blocks the spike protein, which is spying on the surface of the virus, its interaction with nicotinic acetylcholine receptors. And uniquely, you know, I've seen thousands of patients with acute COVID and now with long COVID and vaccine syndromes. I don't think I've ever seen a smoker with serious long COVID or a vaccine injury syndrome. Not a single one. That's wild. And let's be very clear for the listeners.

Starting point is 00:20:34 We are not condoning smoking. It's obviously very terrible for your lungs. But what was really fascinating about this is that now we know nicotine can dissolve the spike proteins, right? Well it blocks, doesn't dissolve it. The dissolution of the spike protein is with some other interventions I'm sure we're going to talk about. Yeah. But nicotine uniquely blocks it stoichiometrically on the receptor.

Starting point is 00:20:58 And the observation, clinically what I do is for a non-smoker, I will recommend the lowest level of a nicotine patch, which is seven milligrams a day. Patients say it's like a miracle, their brain fog or loss of mental clarity clears up, this numbness and tingling, some of the other symptoms immediately improve. So this has been a unique observation.

Starting point is 00:21:22 I give credit to a doctor here in Dallas, Dr. Brian Artis, who made that discovery. That is so fascinating. Well, this is a little anecdotal story, but my mom and I didn't get the COVID vaccine, but we couldn't keep our dad from getting it, my dad from getting it. And we were so concerned,

Starting point is 00:21:40 but then we found out about this research and my dad has been totally fine so far. He's been, he was on those little ZEN nicotine pouches the whole time and my mom and I feel like he was protected because of those. It's certainly possible. There's so much we have to learn and you know the Biden administration through the HHS Long COVID program spent a billion dollars researching Long COVID. They never studied nicotine. They never studied the elements of now McCullough protocol based spike protein detoxification.

Starting point is 00:22:11 Never studied ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and colchicine. All the things we're using in clinical practice were never studied. They never measured the spike protein, either directly or indirectly through antibodies. So a billion dollars of our taxpayer money was completely wasted on, I would say,

Starting point is 00:22:30 dumb ideas that have no scientific foundation. Because the medical community, just as they were lost on the treatment of acute COVID-19, they are equally lost on lung COVID and vaccine injury syndromes. Wow. Well, let's talk about spike proteins, because I have been talking about this a lot recently

Starting point is 00:22:47 on my Instagram. Now, first of all, let's define it. What does that actually mean? And what is a spike protein from COVID itself and from the vaccine? Can we differentiate that? The virus can be visualized as a ball. And on the surface are these spikes,

Starting point is 00:23:02 these little spines on the spicules on the surface of the virus, thousands of them per viral particle. The spike protein was intentionally engineered in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. It's now all completely in congressional reports. All the agencies agree. The controversy is over with. Yeah, the FBI has admitted that that's... And the CIA.

Starting point is 00:23:24 Yep. So the spike protein is a very unnatural protein. And I can tell you as a doctor, I think it's the most dangerous and deadly protein ever devised. And it was devised by mankind. The spike protein gets into the human body and we don't have enzymes to break it down or clear it. It literally gets stuck in our body.

Starting point is 00:23:44 Now with the natural infection, just the tip of the spike protein gets in the body. The base of it is sacrificed at the ACE2 receptor. So we have the S1 segment found within the body. Now white blood cells tend to grab it pretty quickly and Bruce Patterson in Cell DX has published that it's about a year and a half that we can detect S1 segment in patients after they've had

Starting point is 00:24:05 the SARS-CoV-2 infection, no vaccine. So that's a little scary. I've had the infection three times. I've had it twice. So there you go. So all of us have a little piece of Wuhan China in us after having the infection. That's kind of a creepy thought.

Starting point is 00:24:19 Well, the vaccine is way worse. Now, 94% of people who took a vaccine took Pfizer or Moderna. There, it's the full length spike protein is installed in the human body. The genetic code runs continuously producing more and more spike protein in the body. No way to shut off that genetic code.

Starting point is 00:24:39 We don't know how long the messenger RNA lasts in the body, but I'm telling you, it doesn't look good. A study from Stanford showing two months. It could be much longer than that. We don't know how long the messenger RNA lasts in the body, but I'm telling you, it doesn't look good. A study from Stanford showing two months. It could be much longer than that. The spike protein, which from the vaccine, again, is the full length spike protein, probably far more dangerous, has been found in blood.

Starting point is 00:24:57 It travels in trimer, so it twists and threes. It's been found in blood in a study by Brogna in half of vaccine patients, not all of them, half, circulating for six months. And now a recent study from Yale shows at least nine months. This in the blood. Now, when it deposits in the heart, the brain, the vital organs, it's probably there for years.

Starting point is 00:25:19 And I've come to the conclusion that the body needs enzymatic assistance in clearing it out. And we're definitely going to talk about that. I just want to line all this up so people really understand. Does the COVID vaccine turn the body into a spike protein making machine? Is that what it does? Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:40 I have a lot of concerns about it. I mean, a lot of people do. Obviously you do. But, you know, it's affected me personally in the sense that my fiance who you just met got two doses of the COVID vaccine. My dad got it, a lot of my friends got it. I know we don't really know, right?

Starting point is 00:25:57 Cause it was an experiment, but what are you seeing in the studies that have come out? You've kind of said a little bit, but let's dive a little bit further into that. What are you seeing as far as long-term effects for this for people? Will they ever be able to turn that off? You know, I testified in Congress about a year ago on this and I cited the FDA guidance on genetic technology platforms, which Pfizer, Moderna and Janssen are. And the guidance

Starting point is 00:26:22 says we have about a five to 15 year window of concern. That's how long lasting they could be. But let's sort through the vaccines first. So Pfizer and Moderna are messenger RNA vaccines and the messenger RNA is a synthetic genetic code that has been pseudo urinated and it's been intentionally produced to be long lasting in the human body.

Starting point is 00:26:44 It's not like normal messenger RNA. We ourselves make that, we make it, and then we dissolve it within a matter of minutes or hours afterwards. The Pfizer-Moderna for sure has been found stuck in the human heart, for sure. In a paper by Crossan and colleagues, it's been for sure found in lymph nodes,

Starting point is 00:27:02 as shown by Rolken and colleagues in Stanford. I mean, this is Harvard and Stanford papers. I mean, these are very solid. That's disturbing. Okay. Now Janssen, which is nearly the same as AstraZeneca, that's an adenoviral vector. The body should clear that out.

Starting point is 00:27:16 So- Is that J&J one? Yes, J&J. That's Janssen and AstraZeneca. They were actually made by the same biodefense contractor. Another disturbing part of this is these vaccines are not made by drug companies. They're made by military bio-defense contractors.

Starting point is 00:27:30 And- That's creepy. That's creepy. So Emergent BioSolutions makes AstraZeneca and Janssen. By the way, both off the market, both off the market. Do you think, can I ask you really fast? Do you think that's because they really wanted to push these genetically modified mRNA vaccines?

Starting point is 00:27:44 Yeah. Because that was my thought too. The messenger RNA vaccines from the beginning have had enormous push and support. I mean, so much so that Pfizer-Moderna contracted with the same PR firm, Weber-Shandwick, which is part of IPG Group, is a huge marketing firm. they had an installed marketing office in the CDC vaccine unit in Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah, Senator Rand Paul wrote Walensky and said, you can't have Pfizer Moderna in your offices like an installed marketing firm and nothing was done about it. And so Pfizer Moderna were incessantly pushed. It turns out there's one vaccine that's still on the market. That's not a genetic vaccine.

Starting point is 00:28:26 That's Novavax. That Novavax is just five micrograms of the spike protein only. And I'm like you, I didn't take the COVID vaccine. I'm a doctor. It was not safe enough for me or my wife. But if I had a gun to my head and I had to take a vaccine, it would have been Novavax hands down,

Starting point is 00:28:46 far safer than Pfizer, Moderna or Janssen. Wow, I didn't even know about that, the Novavax vaccine. I just knew about J&J and I said the same thing. I was like, okay, gun to my head, I'll take J&J, but I don't wanna do any of this. And I was so grateful that I had found your work very beginning on, I was already skeptical going into it. I was like, this seems weird.

Starting point is 00:29:04 We're pushing past all of these regulations, and we're not doing the long term studies. And then I found your work and I was so grateful for it because, yeah, I just validated what I was feeling. Wait a minute, people have pushed back on this and said, listen, Dr. McCullough, you know, 1000 people were dying a day when the COVID vaccines were released and we didn't have time for long-term testing.

Starting point is 00:29:27 There was just one month of the primary series, two months of observation and boom, they're on the market. And you know, my response to that is, okay, a thousand people a day were dying. My analysis is they were largely dying because they weren't treated for COVID-19. So if we would have had a broad early treatment program, we wouldn't have a thousand people dying a day. And of those adjudicated, it was probably 10% really died of the illness.

Starting point is 00:29:52 And a lot of them were dying from remdesivir, right? Well, the complications in the hospital. So secondary pneumonias from being on the ventilator, toxicity from remdesivir all played a role. But even having said that, if we just had to have a vaccine program, then it should have been very limited. So I was leading a proposed research program with a module on vaccine. I was the co-principal investigator.

Starting point is 00:30:18 And when I presented Operation Warp Speed, I said, listen, if we're going to do a vaccine, I'd say 2.7 million Americans tops. Nursing home patients, those around them, congregate living settings, that's it. We would never broadly expose the public to a brand new genetic technology. Young people like you who didn't need it, and then children who are growing and developing. And to this day, the emergency use authorized vaccines, which the boosters, by the way, are not fully FDA licensed, they've been installed on the ASIP childhood vaccine schedule. Now, little children have, at this stage in the pandemic,

Starting point is 00:30:59 have negligible risk of any adverse outcome, how in the world could a committee recommend a brand new untested genetic vaccine given on a regular basis to children? I mean, it's criminal, especially when we know that, and we knew this at the time, by the way, the emergency use authorization could only be pushed through if there was no other viable medications. And we knew that ivermectin was working, we knew that hydroxychloroquine was working, and they purposefully suppressed those because they wanted to say, nope, nothing else works. Now we have the ability to push this EUA through, yeah. It could have been technical, but I really don't think so. Remember that Bamalifamab, which was the Lilly product, is a monoclonal antibody,

Starting point is 00:31:43 that was approved, EUA approved before the vaccine. So we actually had quote an outpatient solution. That wasn't the issue. I think the reason why broadly applicable, available, effective strategies that were in this multi-drug protocol, McCulloch protocol, most widely used protocol out there,

Starting point is 00:32:02 and it included range choices, by the way. It was ivermectin, hydroxyxacoroquin, Pexlovid, Monopiravir, Bamalivumab, nasal sprays and gargles. It was really the package. The reason why the whole package was suppressed was to prepare the population to accept only one answer and that was the vaccine. Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 00:32:22 And then they stood to make a lot of money off of it. Oh my gosh, the money. You know, a blockbuster drug, let's take Lipitor by Pfizer, would take years of development, could be even, you know, half a billion dollars in investment of their own money, of the own money of pharmaceutical companies. If it earned a billion dollars in its first year of sales, it would be considered a blockbuster.

Starting point is 00:32:42 Do you know these vaccines? And the government footed all the bill for development, footed all the marketing efforts. There's no sales force, nothing else. They raked in tens of billions of dollars in their first year. So you could see that now the vaccines became an all powerful part of the biopharmaceutical complex.

Starting point is 00:33:04 Yeah, I mean, it's upsetting and it's crazy when you really start to dig into it. I'm curious about this. Is long COVID a thing that you can get simply from the virus or is long COVID vaccine injury? You know, there's a paper by D'Exner and colleagues in Germany, studied tens of thousands of long COVID patients. The conclusion is about 70% of long COVID is really attributable to the vaccine because the vaccine is the main loading of the spike protein in the body. But 30% is just due to the infection itself

Starting point is 00:33:35 but is caused by the spike protein. It's not caused by anything else. So when I tell people, listen, in order to get better, you have to get rid of the spike protein. That's the base, everything else on top of it. And some patients say, well, Dr. McCullough, I've been taking antidepressants for years or low dose nortrexone.

Starting point is 00:33:52 And they mentioned all these things. I said, that's not getting rid of the spike protein. We have to rid the body of this as the pathway to restoration of health. And we're gonna dive into that. I just wanna dive into everything leading up to it first. I wanted to ask you about this. The white, the thick white blockages that they've started finding in people's arteries. What are those? I know people have attributed to that.

Starting point is 00:34:15 They have attributed those to the vaccine. Do you think that's coming from the spike proteins? First off, it's real. These blood clots are real. They are long. They are white, they're bigger than any blood clots we've ever seen. And by the way, I see them in living human beings. It's not just in corpses. Can people test for these, by the way? Yeah, we do ultrasound. We can see them. But a typical blood clot that would form in the

Starting point is 00:34:38 leg would be a centimeter or two in size. We're seeing blood clots that go from the ankle to the hip. I've never seen blood clots this size. In fact, there's a paper from the FDA, Emily Wu is the first author. She published on thousands of blood clots developing after COVID-19 vaccination. Ankle to hip, about 11% are fatal. These are a disaster.

Starting point is 00:35:01 And we've had all kinds of public figures now develop these massive blood clots. Lauren Boebert, who's a representative in the House of Representatives from Colorado, develops them and actually needs surgery to pull up blood clots. Now they can happen with the viral infection and the vaccine. I don't know her vaccine status, but she's been pretty vocal about vaccine safety, so she probably just got it from the virus itself. Kirk Herbstreet, my favorite ESPN announcer. He gets COVID, lung COVID, makes the mistake of taking vaccines,

Starting point is 00:35:34 develops blood clots, they shoot to his lungs. He's hospitalized. Same thing happened with Al Roker, my favorite weatherman. He took multiple COVID shots publicly on TV, gets COVID, blood clots, hospitalized repeatedly. We had Justin Bieber's wife, Hailey Bieber, have a blood clot shoot to the brain.

Starting point is 00:35:52 I mean, we can go on and on and on. So what we know is when the blood clots are examined, they're loaded with spike protein. And the spike protein folds, it's called an amyloogenic protein. And any protein that can fold, and there's about three dozen of these, it becomes rubber-like.

Starting point is 00:36:09 So the rubberiness of the clots and the size of them is due to the spike protein, which continues to drive more thrombosis. My great concern is that all of us who've had COVID and have taken the vaccines, we are all slightly prone to blood clots now. So everybody ought to be thinking about this. There's a genetic predisposition of this.

Starting point is 00:36:32 We've all been exposed to the spike protein and the circumstances of which blood clots form, for instance, is on long airplane rides, long car rides, when there's immobility of the limbs, spraining your ankle and having an ankle boot or cast, for instance, having surgery, major orthopedic surgeries at risk for blood clots. So everybody should be on alert for blood clots and do everything they can to prevent them.

Starting point is 00:36:57 So what is being on alert for blood clots look like? Like if you suspected you would have a blood clot, what would be maybe some of the symptoms to look for? Swollen leg. I've had college students get swollen arms. We've seen athletes develop symptomatic thoracic outlet obstruction syndrome and develop a blood clot in the arm. Actually, the defensive player of the year in the NBA, just San Antonio Spurs, he's out because of a blood clot in his arm. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 00:37:23 And almost certainly related to increased blood clotting, either from COVID or the vaccine or both. I've had several people in my practice here in Dallas take the shot in their arm, and then immediately the whole arm develops a blood clot in the next few days. That is so frightening. Yeah, so I mean, I went on Fox Business

Starting point is 00:37:42 with Liz McDonald and that's an audience, that's Wall Street, that's the kind of straight-laced business community. And I went on with her and I just kind of let the anchors run with this. She goes, Dr. McCullough, what's going on with these vaccines? Well, one of my friends took a vaccine two days later, he's hospitalized with blood clots.

Starting point is 00:38:01 I was like, well, I don't need to tell Wall Street about the danger of these shots. Liz is gonna do it for me. That's amazing. I love that. Okay, so that's one of the concerns about the vaccines. There's also the concern that the body's gonna continue making the spike proteins.

Starting point is 00:38:17 And now I'm actually concerned that since I got COVID a couple of times that I might have spike proteins in my blood. So how can people get their blood tested for the spike proteins? There's no FDA cleared way to directly measure the spike protein. I mentioned the Yale assay

Starting point is 00:38:33 that just was recently published. There is a Brogna method in Italy. Multiple companies are racing to do this, by the way. One company far along in this is called Albany Labs. But what is available to us now is an indirect proxy of how much spike protein is there, and that is measurement of antibodies against the spike protein.

Starting point is 00:38:54 So it's in a immunologic measure. But if the spike protein is reducing or out of the body, there's no reason to produce antibodies, and so the antibodies fall. So the most popular test is called the LabCorp Extended Range Anti-Spike Antibody Test. The manufacturer of the essay is Roche-Alexis, and the interpretive framework here

Starting point is 00:39:14 is less than.8 is normal. That's very rare. I've only seen a few people in my practice with less than.8. Anything less than a thousand is actually a good number, so if you had it done, it'd be less than a thousand, or if your fiance had it done, it would reassure you that there's not much spike in the system.

Starting point is 00:39:30 Greater than a thousand, watch out. I've seen, yesterday in the office, I saw patients with 5,000, 10,000, 15,000, over 25,000. And at that level, the blood clots and heart damage are almost ubiquitous. So when we see a high anti-spike number, we know we need detoxification. Yeah. Wow.

Starting point is 00:39:51 Is there any concern, because I know there was a lot of concern around fertility, and this was one of the many reasons that I did not get this vaccine, because I've always wanted to be a mom. Is there a concern, do I need to be worried? And you can be very honest, it's okay, I can handle the truth. But is there any concern that since my fiance got it, that I need to be worried? And you can be very honest, okay, I can handle the truth. But is there any concern that since my fiance got it, that I need to be worried about our future children? Okay, so let's just tackle fertility.

Starting point is 00:40:13 Sounds like it's a topic of personal interest for you. And interest to actually many of Courtney's viewers, sure. Yeah. So fertility depends on a woman's cycle to be perfectly timed. So there is the generation of the egg. There's release of the egg. It travels in the fallopian tubes.

Starting point is 00:40:35 It meets the sperm. There's conception that occurs there. The nascent embryo lands in the uterus. It has to implant and then begin to grow. Okay, so that is a very carefully timed cycle. Anything that throws off that cycle, by definition, will lead to infertility, right? Because it has to be a perfectly timed cycle. Because when the egg is released, the uterus is getting ready.

Starting point is 00:41:02 If the egg is released too early or too late, it's out of phase with the uterus, for instance. Even if it's released too early or too late, the fallopian tubes are not advancing it along. So the timing of the female cycle is the first part of the fertility equation. So what do we know there? Well, large numbers of women who had COVID had their periods disrupted for months afterwards. That's been shown. There is a research program called MyCycleStory and the EVA project,

Starting point is 00:41:32 there's been a ton of research on this. It is true that when women take the vaccines, their menstrual cycles are enormously disturbed for a long period of time. It's happened to a lot of my friends. I had several friends come to me and say they regretted taking long period of time. It's happened to a lot of my friends. I had several friends come to me and say they regretted taking it because of this. But Courtney is even more nuanced.

Starting point is 00:41:51 If you did not take the vaccine, but if you were around a friend who did take the vaccine, it influences your cycle in about 70% of cases. I heard this too. 70%. So this is well known in the literature. Yes. And so that's the process called shedding. So on the female side we're kind of set up for infertility that hopefully is transient. Now on the male side I'm more

Starting point is 00:42:19 convinced that it is transient and there's two papers, one from Israel, one from China, both showing that when a man takes a shot, and the two indices of male fertility are sperm count and motility, and they're different. But in the two analyses after the shot, both sperm count and motility go down for about six months and they rebound. So the men predictably rebound.

Starting point is 00:42:44 So I'm hopeful that as we go farther and farther away for about six months and they rebound. So the men predictably rebound. So I'm hopeful that as we go farther and farther away from the shots, farther and farther away from COVID, that we won't have problems with fertility and we won't have problems with conception and organogenesis. And the great disturbing news from Thorpe and colleagues in multiple papers has shown that there is an increased risk of birth defects

Starting point is 00:43:09 in women who've taken the vaccine. Not in women who've had COVID, but in women who've taken the vaccine, that's been shown it's worse if you take a vaccine right during pregnancy. There's also a risk of fetal hemorrhage and maternal hemorrhage that occurs. And obviously, as you can imagine with that, a great risk of fetal hemorrhage and maternal hemorrhage that occurs. And obviously, as you can imagine with that,

Starting point is 00:43:26 a great risk of fetal loss. So fetal loss is defined as a miscarriage in the first trimester, which the natural rate is about 15%, but that's markedly amplified with the vaccines. Stillbirth is defined as loss of pregnancy in the middle trimester, about 20 weeks. That should be less than 1%.

Starting point is 00:43:44 That has been increased with the vaccines. And then in this recent analysis from Thorpe, premature delivery defined as having a baby before 37 weeks is increased with the vaccines. And when the baby is delivered, increased risk of hemorrhage both for the mother and the baby. So COVID vaccination in women of childbearing potential, men of childbearing potential, and in pregnant women was a giant disaster. It's never

Starting point is 00:44:10 done for other new experimental drugs. It never should have been done for the COVID vaccines. These special groups should have been excluded. It was criminal. In my opinion, it was completely criminal that they even suggested it. And I'm so grateful that I didn't do it. Also I'm grateful, it sounds like I kind of was protected from both sides of this because my fiance got it about three years ago, probably maybe four years ago. And I wasn't around him then we hadn't even met yet. Because I always say I wish I'd met him then because I would have saved him from this because

Starting point is 00:44:43 he would have definitely not gotten it Um, but so I I was protected from the shedding although I probably got a lot of it in in la, let's be real Um, and we're far enough away now and I also have him on your ultimate spike detox, which we're going to talk about in a minute Right. That's probably the biggest we'll get to that. But you know, the point is there's great hope now Yeah, that whether how many times people have gotten ho gotten COVID or how many times I've gotten the vaccines, there's something they could do now to cleanse their bodies. And we'll talk about detoxification and we'll talk about other assistive methods.

Starting point is 00:45:15 So this is very important, lifestyle methods. Amazing, I love that. I want to ask you one more question about the vaccines and stuff, and then we'll go into the detox protocol because I know this is something my audience is very, very intrigued by. Every time I bring this up on my Instagram, I get just loads of DMs about it because a

Starting point is 00:45:32 lot of my following got it, or a lot of their loved ones got it. So my last question I wanted to ask you about was the pericarditis and the myocarditis that we were seeing from the vaccines. I personally, one of my really good girlfriends got one shot and got pericarditis from it and she was in and out of the ER for over a year. And her cardiologist and this was actually wild to me because this was in 2021. Her cardiologist told her then you cannot get any more vaccines. This is from the COVID vaccine. And I was like, wow, he actually told her that. And then actually more recently, this week, I

Starting point is 00:46:04 made a new friend who was working with me with the Dr. Phil stuff and he got myocarditis from the vaccine. And before that, he had been an avid mountain biker and had to completely give up his mountain biking because of the injury that he got from the vaccine that he got myocarditis from. Yeah, so many public figures have gotten myocarditis. And the FDA says the vaccines cause myocarditis. This is not controversial. It's right in the package insert, Pfizer, Moderna.

Starting point is 00:46:34 You can get myocarditis, heart inflammation, heart damage from the vaccines. So this is not something that really anyone denies. Now, two studies, one by Mansugian, one by Bergen, where they had all the measurements of the EKG and the blood tests before the shots, and then all the measurements after the shots determined the rate of heart damage that occurs.

Starting point is 00:46:58 Per single shot, like your friend, the rate's 2.5%. Now that's a big number when you think of how many people took the shots. 90% are younger men, age 18 to 24. 10% are younger women. But it can happen to older ones. A public figure of interest, Bruce Arians, former coach of the Tampa Bay Bucks and won the Super Bowl.

Starting point is 00:47:23 He took the shots. He spent an entire month in the hospital with COVID vaccine, myopericarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle. It's Pusarians. He's in his 70s. Now, the great concern is that there's a small patch of inflammation, too small to be seen by MRI. And a recent paper in JACC,

Starting point is 00:47:42 Jonathan Mitten College of Cardiology has proven this now, that there's little micro spots of damage to the vaccine, but it's small enough to trigger a cardiac arrest. And we think this is almost certainly what happened with Damar Hamlin, safety for the Buffalo Bills. Even though he won't come out and say he took the vaccine, Michael Strahan really pushed him in an interview and he goes, well, I don't wanna talk about it.

Starting point is 00:48:06 Well, yeah, he doesn't wanna talk about the vaccine causing a cardiac arrest. But I can tell you, Pilot Snow, he was unafraid to talk about this. He took a COVID vaccine and about two months later had a cardiac arrest on the jetway here at DFW airport after he landed a big plane. And the miracle of pilot Snow,

Starting point is 00:48:26 I wrote a sub deck on this on vocal points, was the fact when they called 911, the DFW paramedic unit happened to be at the gate next door. Think about the luck of that. They raced over, took six shocks to bring him back. So he was deep in a cardiac arrest. And Snow told me when he went out, it was lights out. He just literally remembers nothing.

Starting point is 00:48:45 And when he was in the hospital here in Dallas, he lifted up his shirt, he showed all the, where his body was burned by the defibrillation. He goes, the vaccine did this to me. That's COVID vaccine cardiac arrest. Nick Hulscher and myself from the McCullough Foundation have published in the European Journal of Cardiology that for sure the vaccine

Starting point is 00:49:05 myocarditis causes cardiac death, for sure. So this is, you know, anybody who's had chest pain, palpitations, EKG changes, what have you, watch out. I think they need the type of intervention we're about to discuss greatly because I have seen cardiac arrests now from shots taken in 2021 particularly in young men I've seen cardiac arrests in 2025. So this is what I'm really concerned about and it's what I think about a lot with my fiance and with my dad. So now that we've gone over all of that I'm sure there's a lot of people listening that that are either in

Starting point is 00:49:43 my position where they have loved ones that have taken it or maybe they themselves have taken some shots. And we've talked a lot about a detox protocol. So what does that detox protocol look like? Let me tell you, for years, and I worked on this for years, myself and colleagues, we tried a lot of things and studied a lot of things. So it wasn't our first try, typically in research, and we have no funding. The Toyota, the Biden administration didn't even study the spike protein as the cause of the problem, which it is.

Starting point is 00:50:12 So it goes to show you how inept the biopharmaceutical complex is right now. Is that just because they just wanted to push a solution, which was the vaccine, they didn't want to even bother with anything else? Well, remember, any research in and around the spike protein would lead to the conclusion the vaccines have caused population harm, and they're just not going to let that avenue develop. So that's really what it is. If you go to Mayo Clinic right now with vaccine myopericarditis, they won't measure anything with the spike protein. I mean, this is so crazy.

Starting point is 00:50:42 Yeah, you go to a Markey Institution, they won institution, and the first thing I see when they see patients, I say, well, you need to measure your antibodies to the spike protein. And then of course the aha moment is, oh my gosh, it's 15,000, no wonder, I have heart damage. Well, there you go. So what we had discovered with great assistance

Starting point is 00:51:00 from the Japanese, Dr. Tanakawa, is that natokinase, the fermentation product of soy, that the Japanese have been eating in terms of a breakfast food called natto, and I've had it, I actually like it, they've been eating natto for over a thousand years because of its cardiovascular protection effect, its anti-athroscorotic, anti-thrombotic, proteolytic,

Starting point is 00:51:22 that Tanakawa showed that indeed natokinase miraculously dissolves the spike protein, both in intact cell and cell lysate models. And we're talking natokinase given in a capsule, right? So you could take this as a supplement. He went further to show that if you take the natokinase capsules on an empty stomach, you can actually measure blood levels of natokinase. So this is legit. This gets into the bloodstream. This is like a medicine. That's called pharmacokinetics. That's legit. The next discovery was that a different set of enzymes also works, and that's enzymes

Starting point is 00:51:56 collectively referred to as bromelain. Bromelain is derived from the meat of a pineapple, stem of a pineapple. It also dissolves the spike protein. It also is antithrombotic. It's somewhat of a pineapple, stem of a pineapple. It also dissolves the spike protein. It also is antithrombotic. It's somewhat of a blood thinner like natto. So bromelain is actually an FDA approved drug. It's actually used as a topical ointment in burns because it's of a proteolytic effect. So natto and bromelain,

Starting point is 00:52:20 these are over-the-counter supplements, but I'm telling you as a doctor, they work like drugs. And then the third is very interesting. And this is one broadly embraced by those in the Indian subcontinent, and that's curcumin derived from turmeric. So the orange, right? The orange, there, it was being tested

Starting point is 00:52:41 as an anti-COVID nutritional strategy. And in randomized trials, it actually did ameliorate COVID. It doesn't dissolve the spike protein, but it blocks spike protein-mediated inflammation. So McCulloch Protocol-based spike protein detoxification is the intentional combination of natokinase, bromelain, and curcumin in medicinal doses applied to patients

Starting point is 00:53:04 who have long COVID syndrome or vaccine injury syndromes. And we published this in 2023 in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, and then later on in the Springer Nature Curious Journal Biomedical Sciences as a proposal. We've carefully observed thousands of patients. We've published cases and presented cases where we've demonstrated the antibodies to the spike protein going down over the course of a year and symptoms improving, blood clots resolving, syndromes resolving. I mean, this is really, really gratifying. The caveats are we started low in our initial recommendations, which we should,

Starting point is 00:53:46 because we were concerned about safety, particularly bleeding. Also additionally, those with a soy allergy, there's trace soybean oil, that could be an issue. So we always want to be forthright about safety. And then we've advanced the doses over time. Now the lead product, the lead combination product in the world is by the wellness company,

Starting point is 00:54:05 TWC.health forward slash courage, TWC.health forward slash courage, ultimate spike detox, ultimate spike detox. It's the combination of natokinase, bromelain curcumin, and minor ingredients. Now we believe Irish sea moss and dandelion root extract and black sativa that they also have salutary effects as minor ingredients. The wellness company and I

Starting point is 00:54:31 serve the company as the chief scientific officer, we believe I'm kind of packing the products with a lot in it so you don't have to buy single jars or single bottles of products. The dosing now on the bottle is actually two capsules twice a day on an empty stomach. That's gonna deliver 8,000 fibrillinic units of natokinase. We started out with 2,000. Oh wow. And now Jordan Vaughn, who's running the largest

Starting point is 00:54:58 COVID vaccine blood clot center in the United States in Birmingham, Alabama, who testified in Congress, Jordan, by personal communication has told me he's starting dose now is 16,000 a day. And so I'm doing this now in clinical practice. That's four of the wellness company Ultimus by Detox, four capsules twice a day. That's industrial strength detox.

Starting point is 00:55:18 We continue this for about a year. I think indefinitely for those who've had complications, those with baseline atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, we recheck an antibody level as a proxy for detoxification of the spike at about 9 to 12 months. And we want to see about a 20% reduction in the spike antibody. If we've done that, we know the massive spike is going down. That is so fascinating. And I love to hear all the science behind it because I haven't

Starting point is 00:55:46 heard all of that. It was cool. I just knew that you had this product and I've seen you talk a little bit about it before and so I immediately ordered it for my fiance and we've had him on it for about, I think it's been about six months now. Okay, good. Did he have baseline spike antibodies? I never tested him for those and now I wish that we had, but we should now.

Starting point is 00:56:03 You can catch it. You can add this to any lab he's gonna have and get them measured. And we've recently published a paper, McCullough Foundation, which is kind of the academic arm of what I do. McCullough Foundation has published this in the World Journal of Cardiology. So this is a site of the National Library of Medicine

Starting point is 00:56:21 where there's a risk stratification approach. You'd wanna see your fiance now, Courtney, less than a thousand units per ml on his test. If he's had good solid detoxification, less than a thousand is down to ambient levels. That's probably where you are. I'll give you my story. So I didn't take the vaccine, but I had COVID three times,

Starting point is 00:56:39 and I just seemed to be more prone to more severe illness. And so, I mean, when I had it, I couldn't go to work and I never missed a day at work. I mean, for me, it was a serious infection. Wasn't hospitalized. But after my third episode of COVID, my ears are ringing so loud, I could barely hear my stethoscope.

Starting point is 00:56:58 I couldn't run like I used to, I didn't feel well. And I measured my spike antibody levels. They were 2300. So definitely above the thousand threshold. Now my co-author on my book, and I have my book here just so you can see it, Courage to Face COVID-19. My co-author on my book, John Leake, who's a bestselling author, he lives here in Dallas.

Starting point is 00:57:17 John came in and said, Doc, I really wanna measure my antibody levels. So I said, okay, John didn't take the shot either, but he had like one episode of COVID. He kind of skated through it. We measured his antibodies 800. Oh, wow. Okay. So John, you no wonder you're so much better off than I am. So there's many studies now show that the antibody level does relate to how much spike is in the body, but also how bad one feels and overall risk. And I feel really uncomfortable with anybody over a thousand who's not undergoing detoxification.

Starting point is 00:57:50 Now, some people like you said, listen, Dr. McCullough, I'm low risk, but I'm exposed to other people. Or my mom is vaccinated, my dad is vaccinated. Can I take these? Well, of course, these are natural products that people take for general health anyway. I have atherosclerosis. So I have some cholesterol blockages in my arteries, I'm older.

Starting point is 00:58:08 And so, you know, I don't have any side effects from this. I've actually already taken today, I've already taken a full 16,000 of Natto on an empty stomach along with the bromelain. Bromelain, I've taken a thousand milligrams curcumin, I've had about a thousand milligrams empty stomach. And because I have no side effects and the published data are so favorable as a supplement to take, I'm going to continue them indefinitely. Okay, that's fascinating. I also have a question. I know you can't give personalized medical

Starting point is 00:58:39 advice, but I am curious because I did read on the website that if you're on blood thinners, you may not be able to take it. And I was concerned about my dad because he does take a baby aspirin every day because he's same as you, has some heart. I actually don't know exactly what he's been diagnosed with but something with a heart. Can people that are on things like Advil take it or? Well, remember that aspirin has a blood thinning effect

Starting point is 00:59:03 and so I do take aspirin. Okay. And my advice there is 81 milligrams, which is a baby aspirin. If somebody has a stent in place or something serious, you have 81 a day, atherosclerosis, no stents, that would be me. I take it every other day and then days that I travel.

Starting point is 00:59:21 I think that's a reasonable approach. Now people have asked, what about serious blood thinners like Eloquiz or Xarelto or Pradaxa or Warfarin or Coumadin? The answer is yes, we can do McCullough protocol based by protein detoxification, but the caveat is bleeding. So I always ask patients, look for easy bruising.

Starting point is 00:59:41 We don't want people doing high risk activities. This would not be the time to load up on this and do bungee cord jumping or things like this, right? And any signs of bleeding, let's say nose bleeding or bleeding from the gums after brushing your teeth, that's a sign that we have to reduce the dose. Very important.

Starting point is 00:59:58 I've only had one serious bleeding event of someone on the detoxification was a patient with liver disease and it was a GI bleed and we simply stopped the detox. He never needed transfusion and he's fine. So we use these in addition to blood thinners, but people need to understand the caveats. Now, if I have a patient with a large COVID

Starting point is 01:00:17 or a vaccine blood clot in the leg, I have not found they dissolve with the prescription blood thinners alone. They don't. So I've had patients on Eloquist for a couple years and these things don't dissolve. I think that's the reason why the surgeons have gone in and taken them out. For instance, in Lauren Bulbert, they took hers out. But what I have found is that they do dissolve slowly when we add the spike detoxification, the natto, kidneys,ies, bromelain, curcumin, to the eloquus. I have a lady who came in, she took, I think, seven shots.

Starting point is 01:00:50 Spike antibodies, over 25,000. So just loaded with spike protein. Both legs had blood clots in them. She couldn't even walk. And she's been on eloquus. It's now been, I think, about 14 months. I had a visit with her recently and the blood cuts are nearly gone. We do serial ultrasound, they're nearly dissolved.

Starting point is 01:01:08 Wow, that is so fascinating. That's so cool. So my next question is actually from a friend of mine who's really struggling with her family right now because they won't stop getting the boosters. And she wanted me to ask you, if you have any advice, how can you have an educated conversation with family members, loved ones, to try to help them see that these boosters and these vaccines

Starting point is 01:01:32 may not have their best health in mind? And maybe there's nothing you can really do, but if you have any advice for that. Boy, I tell you, that's a tough one. We know that probably 80% of the US population took a vaccine. You and I are in the 20%, we didn't take it. I bet you're happy you didn't. I am so grateful. I've never been so grateful.

Starting point is 01:01:53 It's the best health decision I've ever made. People have said, Dr. McCullough, I've lost my job because I didn't take a vaccine. I said, it was worth it. I hate to say it, but it was worth it. I would have quit my job. Oh yeah, but people, yeah, that lost their jobs. Yeah, but I would have, honestly, I would have lost a job. I would have quit my job. Oh, yeah, but people have lost their jobs. Yeah, but I would have honestly I would have lost a job. I would have.

Starting point is 01:02:07 Me too. I would have moved. I would have quit my job. I would have done. And you know, tens of thousands of US military walked off because they wouldn't take a shot recently. They've been restored by Trump and God. I actually got an inside piece of information. I don't know if it's verified or not. But interestingly, what I've been told is very few came back to the military. Really? I mean, they may have gotten jobs in the civilian sectors,

Starting point is 01:02:32 what have you, but I think- Well, they were probably mad. They felt burned. Yeah, exactly. So this idea of how do you approach this? And I think it's important to understand that there is a vaccine ideology. An ideology is like a religious directive.

Starting point is 01:02:47 It's like an ethical religious directive. There are people who believe vaccines are like a talisman. A talisman is like a good luck charm. It's something that's gonna bring you good health. And when people have a deeply held religious belief, that means they accepted the vaccines based on faith. So if you go in Courtney and you're going to go in and blast against the vaccines, you're going to go against their faith.

Starting point is 01:03:14 That would be the same as going into a mosque and start putting out some anti-Islamic statements. Now people in the mosque, if you started doing that, if they were nice to you, they would say, I don't wanna talk about it, I don't wanna talk about it. If they were not so nice to you, they'd tell you to get out. Yeah. Right? So you're confronting faith. You have to understand vaccines for some people are faith.

Starting point is 01:03:39 Now, fortunately, it's a few. I'd mentioned 80% took a vaccine, but how many are taking boosters now? And how many have taken all the boosters? Well, I mean, I can't think of anybody outside of President Biden. Former President Biden publicly took six shots. He did. Six shots. And I do believe he has a form of a vaccine injury syndrome because he has this neurodegenerative problem that has features of Alzheimer's disease, but it also has features of Parkinson's, but it's not classic for either.

Starting point is 01:04:12 And that's what my observation has been. The peer-reviewed literature suggests that. I think it's because of the accumulation of messenger RNA and spike protein in his body with six vaccines. But the point is Biden may be among the very few, and I have less than 1% of my patient population has taken all the vaccines. And most of them have said, you know, I took a few,

Starting point is 01:04:36 COVID is less severe. They may not come around to wanting to understand that they made a mistake, that they made a personal health mistake, but they're not going gonna take any more. I think the conversation's become a lot easier now that we have a solution. We have a color protocol based by potent detoxification

Starting point is 01:04:54 and we can say, listen, we've learned a lot and when people took the vaccines, they really thought they were doing the right thing and it was a tough time in our country and around the world. But we've learned the vaccines for sure are not readily cleared out of the body. And here's something that can help. I think it's a nice suggestion to people.

Starting point is 01:05:14 You could even kind of put it as a little birthday present or a Christmas present, just a suggestion. It's good for your health and why not? Yeah, yeah. I mean, if they can save their life, you might as well try, but it is, it's tough. In my experience, most people I know are not getting any of them anymore

Starting point is 01:05:33 because most of them feel now either immense guilt, or not a guilt, but like regret. Regret was the word I was looking for. They're feeling immense regret, or they're just like, I don't feel any need to get anymore. So that's kind of what I've been seeing. Now, do you know anybody who like you did not take the vaccines in the initial wave would have you?

Starting point is 01:05:54 And now in 2025 said, you know, I think I'll start taking them. It's a good idea. Not a single one. Not a single one. No. No one is gonna start taking them now. So it's interesting, the vaccines did divide us.

Starting point is 01:06:06 Now, some people, Courtney, would say, you're an anti-vaxxer, you're kind of against vaccines, you're against the religion of vaccines. And people have said that to me, and you know, before COVID, I took all the vaccines. I counted up all the vaccines in my body. I counted up like 69 vaccines. I took flu shots every year because I was on medical staff,

Starting point is 01:06:26 I traveled, I took more vaccines. So I'm definitely not anti-vaxxer. But what I am is I am vaccine risk aware. I am far more aware of the risks now. And just like anything else, vaccines have a risk benefit relationship, and we have to talk about both. Yes, absolutely. With any pharmaceutical intervention, you're going to have side effects.

Starting point is 01:06:53 And some people are going to be affected, some people are not. It's just very plain and simple, black and white like that. And it's wild to me that we can't even have a conversation about it without people attacking us saying, oh, you're anti-vax. I can't even believe you're asking these questions. Courtney, oh my God, I can't even believe you had Peter McCullough on the podcast asking these questions. God forbid we dive into the research.

Starting point is 01:07:12 It's wild. Because it's religious. Now, the vaccine ideology, by the way, goes back hundreds of years. It's not new. It's probably started with the great smallpox vaccine campaign. But the ideology goes like this. Mankind is vulnerable to infectious diseases. We have a weakness.

Starting point is 01:07:32 But through the greatness of human ingenuity and science, vaccinology, we can make the body more robust to infections. We can improve upon God's creation. I mean, this is the ultimate hubris, right? We can improve upon God's creation. I mean, this is the ultimate hubris, right? We can improve upon God's creation. However, the vaccines aren't perfect. And so for this to work, everyone must take them

Starting point is 01:07:57 with no exemptions. That's how the ideology is. When vaccines are rolled out, no one is exempt from these, all of them. You must take all of them. And if there is an injury, a side effect, a death, then that's acceptable. That's acceptable collateral damage that you have to take it for the team.

Starting point is 01:08:19 It's considered so acceptable that 1986 in the Vaccine Injury Compensation Act, the manufacturers are held immune from liability. Oh yeah. So this is stunning. So that is vaccine ideology. It's a religion and they're accepted as articles of faith. The COVID vaccine is the best example

Starting point is 01:08:38 because when they were rolled out December 10th of 2020, we had one month of just giving the primary series and two months of observation. That's all that existed. when they were rolled out December 10th of 2020, we had one month of just giving the primary series and two months of observation. That's all that existed. No one in the world could have known what would have happened on month four. No one could have known.

Starting point is 01:08:55 And yet people were on TV. Once you take it, you're good. You're good for left. Remember Rachel Maddow, you take it, the disease won't get you. And the implication is you're good forever. People lined up here at Dallas and Fair Park to take these. They were accepted as articles of faith

Starting point is 01:09:11 because no one could have known what was gonna happen. Well, what I remember during that time, watching her, watching Biden say, if you get the vaccine, you're not gonna get COVID, you're not gonna spread it. But I remember in the Pfizer studies that they never even tested whether or not you were able to get it and then transmit it.

Starting point is 01:09:29 So I remember already it was like, oh, they're lying already about this. Like we have the papers. Yeah, good observation. And the clinical trials, remember, this was at a time where test positivity rates in hospitals, community centers, labor and delivery departments was 15%. This is in the fall of 2020. That's when I got COVID.

Starting point is 01:09:49 So COVID was raging. Do you know in the trials of Pfizer, 1% of people got COVID. Wait a minute, in placebo, 1% got COVID. So how is that? So they got a very frightened, concerned population to take these shots who were obviously not in contact with a lot of other people.

Starting point is 01:10:08 Number one, they didn't do routine testing, which they should have every week, to really see who got COVID. So they let it be kind of symptomatically driven. And on top of that, everyone who took the shot had a sore arm, so they knew they got the real thing. Everybody who got the saline shot, the placebo, they knew they got placebo. So those Everybody who got the saline shot, the placebo, they knew they got placebo.

Starting point is 01:10:25 So those who got the shot were much less likely to come in with a suspected cold because they thought they were protected. Those who got placebo were coming in in droves. And so the trials falsely reported that the vaccines prevented COVID at a 90% protection effect or greater. It was all flawed reporting.

Starting point is 01:10:48 In a paper by Michaels and colleagues, when they counted up the deaths in the end, and there were deaths reported after the submission deadline for the briefing booklet for the FDA, when they counted up the deaths, more people died with Pfizer than they did with placebo. And there was no reduction in hospitalization, none. So when people said, take the shot, it's going to save you, it's going to keep you out of

Starting point is 01:11:10 the hospital. That was all false advertising. I mean, it was lying. They were lying. Okay, I know I get a lot of questions about this. And I meant to ask you earlier when we were talking about the detox, I want to make sure we get to it. If someone took the vaccine,

Starting point is 01:11:26 how long should they be taking this Ultimate Spike Detox for? At least a year. You know, we started out thinking wishfully it was gonna be three months, and we've been studying patients carefully. It's at least a year. I can tell you for me,

Starting point is 01:11:40 it was at about nine months or so. That ringing in the ear is called tinnitus. And how I gauge it is in the morning when I wake up. Anybody who has this, you know, in the morning wake up, it's quiet and you're sitting on the side of the bed. That's when it's the worst. And a lot of people have tinnitus. They have ringing in the ears.

Starting point is 01:11:59 By nine months, that was noticeably declined. But I can tell you, I went three or four or five months, no difference. And I don't want people to start this and say, Dr. McCullough, I did it for two weeks, I'm not better. Listen, the spike protein's been in your body a long time, it's gonna take a year or more. This is something we need to have great patience

Starting point is 01:12:18 with detoxification. What is the latest research that you've seen with it? Because I know there was something that just recently came out about the spike proteins, right? Is there anything else that we need to update people on that we've seen with it? Because I know there was something that just recently came out about the spike proteins, right? Is there anything else that we need to update people on that we haven't covered yet? There's certainly some broad vistas. I say to finish on a positive note,

Starting point is 01:12:37 we continue to see ever increasing data that a healthy diet and fitness is a pathway out of this pandemic. I can't emphasize it enough. Now is the time for everyone to do a self appraisal of where they are in their health. Our naturopathic doctors were right in that nutritional supplements,

Starting point is 01:12:58 things that you take intentionally to supplement your diet can lead to better health. This is legitimate. I've spent a lot of time with my naturopathic colleagues. It's probably six to eight different supplements to figure out what's the best combination, detoxification, boosting immunity, boosting cardiovascular health.

Starting point is 01:13:19 I mean, I think this is very important. Yeah. Anti-cancer, believe it or not, there are anti-cancer medicinal and culinary herbs, supplements, I think everybody should be tuning in to Courtney's podcast, become an expert and a droid in navigating independent media. Independent media is where you're hearing about this.

Starting point is 01:13:42 You can't turn on CNN and hear about something innovative in dealing with long COVID or COVID vaccine injury syndromes. You can't turn on CNN and hear a counter narrative to the bird flu biosecurity program. Right? Right now our major media, and I know this, I am a commentator on the major news stations.

Starting point is 01:14:02 So you'll see me on national TV and I can tell you that independent media is now carrying the day. So you asked about Secretary Rollins and Robert F. Kennedy and are they hearing counterpoints on biosecurity? Well, yeah, they are through independent media. And I know they are for sure on focal points. Focal points, everybody should subscribe. Go to thefocalpoints.com or sub stack focal points.

Starting point is 01:14:24 That's our sub stack every day between four and five a.m. A critical release will come out with the graphical abstract, the update, giving people something actionable. And many have said, Dr. McCullough, you've been on Capitol Hill. You've been critical of our leadership. I've been critical of the leadership. I said, well, yes, I have, but I've also come to the table and I've brought solutions and

Starting point is 01:14:47 so have you. If you had 60 seconds to wake people up about the healthcare system, what would you say? I would tell the audience broadly that the healthcare system over the course of COVID unfortunately has been come corrupted. They've been corrupted with the ever-increasing strength of this vaccine ideology carried to the COVID-19 vaccines, which have led to record injuries, disabilities, and deaths. And the health care systems were complicit in suggesting, promoting, and in fact, mandating vaccines on their employees, doctors, nurses, and then of course the patients.

Starting point is 01:15:28 So as patients navigate from here, they should be checking with their healthcare system and their doctors on where they are with these COVID vaccines. An honest answer is we were initially enthusiastic and now we realize there's been great harm. A dishonest answer would be we should take more vaccines. That's a dangerous answer when you get that answer I suggest you move on and I would urge people to look into

Starting point is 01:15:53 Who funds our media who funds all of the medical schools? Who's funding all the medical journals and hopefully that will wake people up Dr. Peter McCullough, thank you so much for coming on. I do want to share, so your website is twc.health and you gave me a code, which is amazing, code realfoodology for 10% off plus free shipping on all orders. This is not just a one-time use code, which is really amazing. Thank you so much for that. And hopefully everyone listening will order the Ultimate Spike Detox for either themselves, their loved ones, their family members. They make great gifts.

Starting point is 01:16:29 I buy them for my dad and my fiance. So if you are concerned about anything we talked about today, just remember, we have a lot of solutions now. There's a lot of amazing research that you've put out there and I'm just so grateful for the protocol that you have. And I would encourage everyone to go to the website and check all of that out and order what you need.

Starting point is 01:16:47 Well, let's say it again, twc.health. And then when you get to the checkout, use real foodology as your promo code for the discount. Okay? Also, consider getting a membership. There's three different levels of membership. My wife and I are members there. At the highest level of membership, and the codes apply to members there, at the highest level of membership

Starting point is 01:17:10 and the codes applied to the membership costs, the supplements are free. So you can order free supplements. Now you order two by two and so you can go on and order two by two at a time. So free supplements and my wife and I do this and at the highest level, free prescription medications. So we get our prescriptions through the One Wellness Elite member. Now the middle level, one gets, I believe, free supplements and prescriptions, and then the lowest level, there's kind of a deeper discount. So many people actually get a membership to the wellness company, because the idea is,

Starting point is 01:17:42 if you're gonna buy more than maybe two supplements a month, you actually save money. And who doesn't want to save money nowadays? I do. I'm on subscription right now for the Ultimate Spike Detox. In fact, I just got an email yesterday that it shipped out. So I need to look into that. And also, you guys also have something called the Contagion Kit that people can check out

Starting point is 01:18:01 too. Right. So the wellness company kits, and there's a whole array of these kits, allow you to have pre-prescribed medications and other necessary supplies for a disaster. So the ultimate prepper kit is called the base kit, and it comes in a big tan box. It has everything in it, dozens and dozens of medicines.

Starting point is 01:18:20 Does it have ivermectin? It has ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, zithromycin, amoxicillin goes on and on and on. That's the big kit. And then there's other ones you can travel with. A common one that people have in their household is the light blue medical emergency kit, the aqua blue kit.

Starting point is 01:18:34 We have that one. We've already used it a couple of times. There's a forest green travel kit that's mainly focused for gastroenteritis. The black contagion kit is specifically for COVID flu and bird flu. And now we've made a special one for the farmers that's specifically for bird flu to help them through this illness.

Starting point is 01:18:54 The kits are the best way to be prepared ahead of time. Remember during these disasters, a lot of times pharmacies and clinics are closed. Do you know that during the hurricane Hilton and Helene, with all the flooding, pharmacies were closed, people couldn't get drugs. So people got infected cuts. If they didn't have a wellness company kit,

Starting point is 01:19:12 the infection continued in their legs or arms when they were in the water with all the glass and everything. So remember in the case of natural disasters and emergencies, you must have a kit on board. Remember when you're traveling, when you're traveling, especially Remember when you're traveling, when you're traveling, especially overseas, you're traveling, do you want to navigate, you know,

Starting point is 01:19:29 an ER in a hospital in Italy or Mexico or Brazil or what have you, if you get, you know, bad gastroenteritis or a cellulitis or a urinary tract infection? No, so get a wellness company, emergency kit, and you can use real foodology as your code to get a deep discount on the kit.

Starting point is 01:19:46 That's amazing. And I love that you have ivermectin because I personally just take ivermectin anytime I get any sort of like more recently I had which I now believe is probably walking pneumonia. Oh my gosh. The second that I started getting symptoms, I immediately started ivermectin and I got through it a lot quicker than I think I normally would have. And ivermectin's been hard to find. I still have friends that hit me up and they don't know where to find it.

Starting point is 01:20:09 Right, well, if you get one of the kits and the black contagion kit, the Aqua Blue home medical emergency kit, and the base kit all have ivermectin in it, in a high dose, if you use some of the ivermectin in the bottle, we have a refill kit, so refill program. So you just get online and say, I use my ivermectin, you can get it refilled. And it's very affordable. So you don't have to, you have to rebuy the whole kit. So take advantage of that.

Starting point is 01:20:35 The other point I want to make, I couldn't leave this podcast without saying it, is that more and more research suggests, look at you, you're young and you got, nearly got walking pneumonia, you must be doing a nasal spray and gargle every day. This is really, really important. If you were to leave here and you were to walk

Starting point is 01:20:53 through somebody's viral cloud in the hallway and the virus is in your nose, you don't feel anything. It needs a stable environment for five days and lymphatics drain back to the throat. Your first signal you got a problem, sore throat. When you have a sore throat, the virus has already been in your nose for five days and lymphatics drain back to the throat. Your first signal you got a problem, sore throat. When you have a sore throat, the virus has already been in your nose for five days. You had five days to do something about it.

Starting point is 01:21:11 So because of this lag time, you always need to be doing a nasal spray and gargle twice a day. That way you disrupt the virus, setting up shop in your nose. And there's a whole variety of products. They're fairly equal. You could use something as simple as saltwater,

Starting point is 01:21:26 just saline. My favorite is clear, X-L-E-A-R. I was going to ask you about that one. Okay, good. So I use clear and as companion is spray, is the gargle. So I did like this morning, I did a couple of sprays of clear up, I sniffed it back, I spit it out and then you blow out the rest.

Starting point is 01:21:40 So you're just disrupting any nascent viral infection. And then I gargle with Sprite. Now, if you wanted to use an iodine-based wellness company, you can use your promo code Real Foodology at Wellness Company. They have Immune Mist, which is an iodine-based. If gargling is too messy on the plane, use a throat spray.

Starting point is 01:21:57 Just hold it back there for about 10 seconds. This is proven in prospective double-blind, randomized placebo-controlled trials. This is the way to go. During COVID, I didn't have my act together and people saw me on the news. I was sick almost every month, almost every month. I counted. I could not get well. My wife and I have been doing this religiously. I'm now at eight months with no infection whatsoever, none. And if I go 12 months, which is four more months, if I go 12 months, it'll be the first year of my adult life

Starting point is 01:22:28 without getting an infection. And I've interviewed Courtney, some people on my show, they've gone 10 or 20 years with no colds. Because they do the nasal spray twice a day and gargle twice a day, religiously, just like you brush your teeth. And if we get fewer of these viral infections, I just think we're healthier.

Starting point is 01:22:45 We don't want these things to keep making us sick. So everybody get on this, find a plan, saline, xylitol, iodine, colloidal silver, pick what you want to use, but do something twice a day and do it regularly. Don't wait till when you think you're sick, do it ahead of time. Okay, well, you've inspired me.

Starting point is 01:23:03 I'm going to go buy the xylitol nasal spray today. Good, yeah, clear X-L-E-A-R and then the companion is Spray. Spray is listed as a dental rinse, but you gargle with it. The other advantage with the xylitol, which is a natural product, it's derived from corn cobs and from leafy green leaves. It's with grapefruit seed extract and xylitol and saline. The other added benefit

Starting point is 01:23:26 there is it strengthens the teeth in prospective trials. So it actually heals cavities, prevents cavities. Every time I go to the dentist, they say, Dr. McCullough, your teeth are so wonderful. It's because I'm using xylitol-based products. Yep. I use xylitol toothpaste and I have xylitol gum for after meals. Perfect. Great. Well, thank you so much, Dr. Peter McCullough. Thank you. This was amazing. Thank you.

Starting point is 01:23:47 As promised, I have a code to share with you. If you go to twc.health and use code REALFOODOLOGY, you're going to save 10% on any of the supplements that we talked about today. Again, that's code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout. Thank you so much for listening to the Real Foodology Podcast. This is a Wellness Loud production produced by Drake Peterson and mixed by Mike Fry. Theme song is by Georgie. You can watch the full video version of this podcast inside the Spotify app or on YouTube.

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