Realfoodology - Easy Health Tips to Try NOW | Luke Cook

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

EP. 193: Today’s episode is a really fun one with Luke Cook. You may know him from his hilarious videos on Instagram, he brings so much fun to this corner of instagram, and I’m so thankful I was able to sit down with him and chat. We speak a lot about different biohacking modalities, what his diet looks like and his thoughts about protein as a fitness trainer. Topics Discussed: 05:21 - Positive vs negative health advice 10:12 - Measuring satiating vs non satiating foods 14:01 - Navigating your mood with nutrition 15:53 - Intermittent Fasting and the ideal breakfast 17:05 - Thoughts on Stevia 27:02 - Steroids and peptides 32:00 - Effects of marijuana and escapism 35:30 - Methods for relaxing 41:08 - Analyzing cold plunges and saunas 44:30 - Life in moderation and dealing with social media haters 49:50 - Luke’s morning routine 52:34 - Dad life 58:48 - Approaching nutrition with children 01:03:10 - Nutritional differences in America 01:08:08 - The story behind Shakewell 01:13:38 - “Organic is a scam” 01:17:25 - Luke’s non-negotiables Check Out Luke Cook Instagram Shakewell Instagram Shakewell website Sponsored By: Organifi Use REALFOODOLOGY for 20% off at www.organifi.com/realfoodology  Seed 30% your first month with code REALFOODOLOGY at https://seed.com/realfoodology BiOptimizers MagBreakthrough Get 10% off at bioptimizers.com/realfoodology with code REALFOODOLOGY Natural Cycles for 15% off go to naturalcycles.com with code REALFOODOLOGY LMNT Get 8 FREE packs with any order at drinkLMNT.com/realfoodology Check Out Courtney: LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide! @realfoodology www.realfoodology.com My Immune Supplement by 2x4 Air Dr Air Purifier AquaTru Water Filter EWG Tap Water Database

on today's episode of The Real Foodology Podcast. Let's bring out into the open the fact that there's a way in which you can live healthier and happier right now. Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of The Real Foodology Podcast. Today's episode was a really fun one for me to record. I had Luke Cook on and he's not my normal guest that I have on. I'm trying to bring just a wide array of guests on

and I have been following him for a while on Instagram. You may know him from his hilarious videos on Instagram. I really enjoy his account. His account is probably one of my favorite ones to follow. Now having met him in person, I know he's just a really great guy and it really comes through in his account as well. And he just brings so much fun to the world, to this corner of Instagram. His skits are just absolutely hilarious. And I'm so grateful that I got to sit down with him and chat. It was a great conversation. We talked a lot about biohacking modalities, all the different health stuff that he does, what his diet looks like, his thoughts about protein as a fitness

trainer, because he's also a fitness instructor as well. And he knows a lot about health. You guys will learn a little bit about me because he was also asking me questions, which was really fun because that never happens to me when I'm interviewing. So it was just a lot of fun and we had just a really great conversation. So I hope you guys enjoy it. Make sure you go follow him on Instagram. He is the best on Instagram. He's so much fun. And I think you guys would enjoy his content a lot. So yeah, as always, if you could take a moment to rate and review the podcast, it would mean so much to me. Really appreciate your support. I love you guys so much. If you're like me, you know the importance of eating healthy, but you don't always have the

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makes me feel bad about myself because I don't dress as good or my hair isn't as nice or I'm not as thin. And then you're going to tell me that I'm eating wrong and I'm feeding my family wrong. And so it's an automatic, I'm on my back foot, I'm on the defensive. That's like part of the problem and the difficulty of what you do. It's actually really hard. And I find that health in general,

I really didn't want to post much about health in a negative way ever because I just the pushback I just found so uh as a sensitive person I didn't enjoy it I was like if I posted somebody who was talking about oh don't do this and because this can affect you negatively here people would be like that's bullshit this is fear-mongering and and and I was like actually I don't want to actually do that. I'd like Mike to post about just positive things. So instead of saying, don't eat this, I would rather say, eat this. But you, you say, don't eat this. Oh, I go hard in the paint. But there's a reason why. Because what's happening right now to the American public is evil. It truly is evil. Because now there's a coordinated

effort to keep people sick because we have a medical system that's set up to profit off of people being sick. And then we have a food industry that's peddling all of this hyper processed foods, making it really cheap because it's subsidized by our government. It's this whole really evil system that's happening right now. And I can't sit idly by and just be complicit with this, especially when I know that this is happening. So for me, like, I hate that I'm taking all the punches. And, you know, to what you just said, to your point, I identify as a super highly sensitive person as well. But I just hit a point where I was like, I can't shut up about this anymore. And I will take the personal attacks because I know that this is wrong what's happening

and I see it as an injustice and I want to fix it. Yeah, I salute you because you really do. I mean, I just saw a couple of weeks ago or months ago, some guy just coming after you. Yeah, he put a wig on and all. He was really irritating. He's really irritating. He's also filming in what looks like his parents' basement.

Right. He looks like a hoarder. It's an incel thing. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with being involuntarily celibate, by the way. Yeah. They're humans too and we should speak to them. But he just seems – he really irritated me.

Yeah. He obviously really irritated you. It's not nice when people come after you like that. But it's this – what is it it's the soft bigotry of low expectations is what it is so it's like well you know people don't have as much money as you so they can only afford shit food and so you shouldn't talk down about their food and it's like actually they can't afford apples yeah they can't afford potatoes really you can't afford rice and beans yeah people don't understand like it Like it's like your presumption about what people can afford

and what they can't afford is the offensive thing. You know, furthermore, did you see what it costs to go and get like a Big Mac and a milkshake now? It's like 17 bucks. Oh yeah, it's expensive. It's expensive. I actually did, I did a segment on my podcast for a while with my producer.

We called it Organic for Everyone. And what we did is we would go to really popular fast food places and we would buy the most popular item on the menu. So for example, we did the cheesy gordita crunch and we priced it out. And then we went to the grocery store. We went to super accessible, affordable grocery stores

like a Ralph's or a Vaughn's. We weren't like going to Erewhon. We bought every single ingredient organic to remake that at home. And every single time we did McDonald's, we did, I'm blanking on all the places we did, but we did a bunch of different places every single time. It was cheaper for us to buy all those ingredients organic and make it at home than it was to go through the drive-thru. Yes. One of the most effective little messaging mediums I've seen seen recently people are creating content and

showing if you eat this croissant and this snickers bar that's as many calories as three bowls of apples and you're just like and you stand back and go oh my gracious like really and it's so effective seeing it and like two giant bowls of jello is like a Big Mac. And you go, wow, this is insane. We really are like being over-caloried. I can't, I think I underestimated how many calories are in those ultra processed junk foods. Yeah, and that's a big problem. And then too, you think about all the fillers

and everything that's in that food, it's overriding our own hunger cues. And so then we're actually eating more as a result because these are empty calories and they're not signaling certain hormones in our body to tell us when we've had enough. It's similarly, you know, you hear this all the time that nobody's binging on salmon, but you open a bag of Doritos or you think about Pringles, it's literally in their slogan. Once you pop, you can't stop. That's like our biology is being overridden right now. Like you don't have a problem with will.

It's these foods are being created to be overeaten and binged. Yeah. Oh, this is a great question for you because I was thinking about this recently. How do you measure like something that's satiating versus not satiating? I'm aware that as a macronutrient protein is the most satiating of all the macronutrients,

but baked potato, that'll fill you up fairly well. It's fairly satiating. But how do you measure it? How do we know what's satiating and what's not? That's a good question. So fat is really satiating and so is protein if you eat enough protein and fiber as well. So if you have a good mix of all of them,

that's what's really gonna be that like bliss point, if you will, of and fiber as well. So if you have a good mix of all of them, that's what's really gonna be that like bliss point, if you will, of that perfect satiety. But you can also do it, I mean, look at keto. It's so satiating because you eat really high fat. And we just know that fat in general, it's more about just knowing what foods to eat that are gonna satisfy you. We know that hyper-processed foods

are designed to be overeaten and they have flavor scientists that foods are designed to be overeaten and they have flavor scientists that create these foods to be overeaten because they want to make more money. And so it's more about dropping the packaged foods and buying and eating whole real foods and knowing like, for example, an apple is going to be really satiating, especially my favorite thing is adding either protein or fat with your carbs. A lot of people have probably heard, don't eat your carbs naked. That means pair it with a good high protein or a good high fat. So if you want to eat an apple,

that's pretty carbohydrate rich in the fiber and that will keep you full. But what's really going to keep you full and satisfied for longer and I'm going to make it stretch out longer is adding something like almond butter that will give you that fat in there as well to keep you full and satisfied for longer. Yeah, that's clever. It's kind of like elongating. The way I think about fat is that it slows digestion down. So then it slows the glucose spike down and probably satiates you more in doing so. It's kind of like the way that beef works, I guess. So like you can eat, you can eat a hundred grams of protein from beef. And I've only just recently learned this science or seen this scientific study. Did you see this where they were feeding people 100 grams of protein

after a workout instead of the usual 30? No. And their muscle protein synthesis was continuing for a 12-hour timeframe. Wow. So, you know, they only say that you can digest only 30 grams of protein at a time. Well, these people were given, I think, 100 grams of protein from, I believe it was beef and maybe casein and things like that. So it wasn't whey, which is really quick digesting.

It was slower digesting proteins. And their muscle protein synthesis was continuing over like 12 hours, which is insane. Wow. And it was just based on how many grams of protein they gave them? Well, I think it was also based on the source of protein. Well, that's a big one too. So like as in beef is obviously tied to fat. So then you're slowing down, I guess, the, I don't know,

utilization of the protein is my guess, is the fact that it's tied to the fat. Because the way that I view eating after I work out is like, okay, my muscles really want glycogen and they really want protein. If I put fat in there, it will slow down the time it's going to take to get in there and I don't want to do that.

So I avoid fat, you know, when I work out, straight after I work out. And I think that there may be a trick to that. It sounds like there's a trick with the glucose spikes that if you add fat, then you slow out the glucose spike. That's exactly what's happening. So a lot of people are concerned about blood glucose levels right now for good reason.

I feel like we're finally online to how much our blood glucose affects our overall health because it's really at the basis of our metabolism and metabolic health. And what happens when you just have a straight carbohydrate like that, it's going to spike your blood glucose levels really high and then you're going to crash a lot quicker and then you're going to be hungry faster. But when you add a protein or a fat in there,

it's actually going to mitigate that spike from going up so high. So then you're not just doing a roller coaster. And it's also a mood roller coaster, is that right? Oh, yeah. It's a big effect on moods. Big effect on moods. See, that one's for me the one that I care about. I'm like, wait, will it make me less of a bitch? Well, then I want to eat like that. You know, I'm like, oh, that sounds good. I'd like

to be less of a bitch. Okay, so how do you eat to be less like a bitch? Well, not. Yeah, well, that's a good question. Like, my, my, my very my very protein focused yeah like you have to be kind of in order to once you figure out how much protein you need to be getting and i'm one gram of protein per pound of body weight so it's like 200 grams of protein once you figure out how much you should be getting optimally for you you know whatever that is for. I'll tell people it's one gram per, so you base it off of your ideal body weight. So like for me, let's say my ideal body weight is 140, then I would want to strive for 140 grams protein a day.

Right, yes, exactly. So I'm about 200 pounds, so I eat 200 grams. And so once you kind of figure out that that's the amount that you want to get, then you can't help but focus on it every time you sit down for a meal. It's like, where's the protein? What's it look like? But when I talk to people who are new to exercise and health and wellness,

I say, what are you eating? And when you sit down and look at your plate, how much protein is there? Like you really want to make sure that you're nailing that. Number one for satiety to make sure that you're full when you eat. That's pretty important. That's kind of the entire point of eating, but also to make sure that we hold onto muscle. You're going to be losing fat. That's good. We don't want to lose weight. We want to lose fat. Yes. We don't want to lose muscle. So we want to eat enough protein that our protein is held

onto and we keep it. And we don't get sarcopenic in the process of losing weight. So to be less of a bitch, I just eat enough protein. And I started eating breakfast in order to make sure that I get 200 grams of protein because it's very hard to do with the intermittent fasting thing. It's really hard. I was going to ask you if you do intermittent fasting. I used to. I did it for a long time.

And I do think there is a little bit of bitchiness that comes about when at about 11am and when you're pushing it to lunch, you become a little bit of a bitch and you're like, oh, should I have a second coffee or should I just eat? Yeah. You know, it's like your body's probably signaling to you to eat right now, especially if you want to get enough protein in. So yeah, I'm aware of that, those hunger pangs, et cetera. Yeah.

But yeah, in order to get enough protein, I just had to start eating breakfast. What does your breakfast look like? Ideally, maybe it's different every day. So it might be five eggs if I have the time to cook, or it'll be, if on the run, it'll be, I grab my own protein drink. Which I want to talk about. Which is really fun, but it's really great to grab and go something that's 30 grams of protein, which is my drink and just go. It's also lower calorie. So it's just kind of getting the protein in there without any extra stuff in there.

Like no, very low carb, very low fat. And then if I work out, what I'll do is I'll come back and I'll have fat-free Greek yogurt with whey protein powder on top and frozen berries and some stevia or something to make it yummy. Love that. What do you think about stevia? and some stevia or something to make it yummy. Love that. What do you think about stevia?

I like stevia. I will say it is becoming more controversial, I think for good reason. So I have a really good friend who's a doctor and she has been dealing with a lot of patients that are dealing with infertility as a lot of women are struggling with right now. Yes. And she has had four or five women now cut stevia out of their diet,

and then were able to get pregnant. So that really impacted me. And I will say for the longest time, my stance for years has been, I'm totally fine with stevia. It's a plant. So if you get just 100% pure stevia, which a lot of companies now are cutting it with dextrose and other things, like the stevia in the raw is not pure stevia okay also truvia is another one that's not 100 pure uh stevia if you read the back it says like dextrose and natural flavors there's all this other stuff yeah i still maintain mostly that i'm okay with stevia if it's just 100 pure stevia however if you're trying to get pregnant i would probably clear or steer clear of it because of what i've been hearing about the fertility piece. That's exactly. So when we were formulating ShakeWell,

we formulated it with allulose as a sweetener and stevia, a mix of both because allulose is a kind of a milder, sweeter taste. And stevia is obviously incredibly sweet. It's like sweeter than sugar. And when we posted it initially and just said, we're making a protein drink, we hadn't released it yet. So many women wrote and said, please tell me there's no stevia in it. And so many people were writing about it.

And I was like, there's nothing wrong with stevia, is there? And I talked to everybody I knew and they're like, no, there's nothing wrong with stevia. But then it's the public perception which is important. And also, you know, you hear stories like the one you just told me and I do believe like was it some south american nation i believe that was like that they did studies saying that stevia was a a natural contraceptive yeah i can't remember what country that came out of but there was there is a

study or some sort of conversation i don't know if it's anecdotally or if there's actual study but there is conversation coming out of a country and i can't remember what country it's wild to think that your friend who spoke about four women not being able to get pregnant, getting off stevia and then getting pregnant. Isn't that crazy? Really? The stevia was the thing that did it. You know. I know. It's not all the endocrine disruptors. It's not the glyphosate. Like what else did they change? And also like how much stevia were they eating previously? That's my thought too. My thought with stevia is it is so sweet that even a little bit goes a long way

and that it could somehow affect you or all of you. I'm not a scientific brain. But it is wild to think that it could be, well, like the thing or it could be just part and parcel of just a generally healthier, like were they also, were they given, were they told like, can you cut processed foods out, exercise more, and maybe give up stevia? Yeah, it could be that too.

Was it the stevia? Yeah, was it really stevia? Yeah. I'm a big fan of monk fruit. And actually, I have kind of a gross story about allulose. So I, oh my God. Oh no, she vaginal douches with allulose. So I, I, Jen, you're, Jen, you're, oh my God. Oh no. She vaginal douches with allulose. Please don't tell me that you did that. Don't try this at home guys. I like allulose for the most part. I will say though, that if you have it in high quantities, it can cause some

pretty crazy distress. So a girlfriend of mine and I, one time during COVID, this is the height of COVID, okay? This is like, we're locked in our homes. Like we have no idea what's going on. This is the very beginning. We're like, we're getting drunk and we're making margaritas with this allulose syrup that I had.

We're like 30 minutes in. We both were convinced that we had COVID because remember in the very beginning, you get like crazy stomach issues. Like everyone was like getting diarrhea and stuff that we had COVID because remember in the very beginning, you get like crazy stomach issues. Like everyone was like getting diarrhea and stuff that it was COVID. Right. We were both like, I have to leave.

I have to go. Like, I think I have COVID and had the craziest stomach issues from that. But you were smashing it. Like you were putting a lot. We had a lot. We had a lot. I will say like, yeah, we were using it a lot.

That's the part of the problem with it is that it does require more to make things sweeter. Yeah. Because it's like 70% as sweet as sugar. So you have to add more in order to make something sweet. Yeah. And yeah, there are studies that like over a certain amount, like I think it's like 40, 50 grams you have to have and it'll make you.

Oh, it was bad. It'll make you ill. It reminded me of the, I don't know if you ever saw the Amazon reviews for the Haribo like sugar-free bears. If people are listening, if you're ever getting a chance, it must be still up there somewhere. It has to be.

Haribo, sugar-free bears, people did reviews. And once a few people started doing reviews, I mean, you could tell that some TV writers got on who were like, Oh, for sure. had never had diarrhea from the bears, but decided to write horror stories of them after a first date. Oh, it's amazing. Yeah, some brilliant stuff in there.

Please go. Go just if you need a good chuckle. It's hilarious. The idea of being stuck in an apartment during COVID with your friend and needing to both shit yourselves is like a horror story too. Well, then you add in the fact that we're terrified of COVID and we're both convinced that we now have it, not making the connection that it's just the allulose. Yes. Wow.

I don't remember the diarrhea portion of COVID. Was that a portion, was it? It was. Was that the toilet paper debacle? Was that why everyone was getting toilet paper? Oh, that's good. That's really good. Yeah, that was probably part of it in the beginning.

I had a girlfriend very, very early on. Like, I mean, when I say like this was early COVID, this was like March when this happened to us. And I had a girlfriend who both her parents got COVID very early. And that was one of the first symptoms that they had. So it was the very beginning like discourse of like, if you have diarrhea and all this stuff like that was part of the first symptoms that they had. So it was the very beginning like discourse of like, if you have, you know, diarrhea and all this stuff like that was part of the symptoms. I don't know if it ever made it to the mainstream. Like, yeah, I don't know.

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we look upon steroids or any peptide or anything or any hormone like treatment as something that is bad or wrong. And it's like, if it's done responsibly, it's with a doctor's help, it's incredible. And it does incredible things for people. And so I'm like, great, like, let's bring out into the open the fact that there's a way in which you can live healthier and happier right now.

And, you know, these, everyone thinks of Ozempic and things like that immediately, but it's like, once you optimize your hormones, even through a synthetic hormone, like your life changes and people get so happy and are like, fuck, this is what I was missing out on. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. When you think about like testosterone, so just to speak to men specifically in this realm, testosterone levels are declining at a rapid rate right now. They're saying that men in their twenties have the same levels as a man, um, in the 1970s, uh, in the seventies, like they're declining at such a rapid rate. And so I know a lot of men are getting on the

like testosterone, for example, I know Joe, Joe Rogan's a big proponent for this. RFK Jr. is on. RFK. Is on testosterone. Who else? Oh, there's somebody I know who I'm not allowed to say is on it. And I mean, by the way, it is a steroid. Yeah.

So just to clarify, that's what I mean. But it makes people feel amazing, you know. And if it's done responsibly and like with a doctor's care, as I said, it's incredible. Yeah. So why steer away from it that's why i love this olympic idea is because it's going to shine a light on like how incredible you really can be that's and hopefully it's done really safely and nobody dies i know in the process hopefully they're under the care of a doctor i will athletes die all the time like just in general anyway they're pushing their bodies all the time whether they're on steroids or not they die all the time because they're pushing their bodies

to such extremes why not see how far we can go terrible story though let me tell you a terrible story there was a guy 24 i think he was tanzanian or kenyan uh he's a marathon runner and he was the guy who was going to break his closest fastest time was two hours 22 or something like 22 seconds off two hours for running a marathon he was going to break the two hour barrier for a marathon oh my god he died he got hit by a car yes no no he didn't is that a real story real that was not what i was expecting i thought like collapsed no so heartbreaking. Well, but he's 24. And apparently like where marathon runners really hit is in their 30s. Wow. Anyway, very sad.

I'm sorry if I brought down the energy of the room. It's okay. We're just going to bring it right back up. It's good. It's great. Yeah. I will say, so back to the hormones and the peptides thing. My only thing that I don't love about it is if someone's going on these hormones and there's

no conversation about dialing in and optimizing their health from a preventative standpoint. So like if someone's eating processed foods, not really taking care of their health, they're not optimizing their sleep, they're not, you know, doing the correct exercises for their body and they're just pumping themselves with these hormones. I don't love that. I like the way that I'm assuming that you do it as well as like Joe Rogan does where you're also dialed in with all the other biohacking modalities. You know, you're eating really well. You're making sure you get a lot of good protein. You're doing the cold plunge and sauna, like all of that stuff. But if there's no conversation about

how you can optimize your health from other angles, you're basically just like throwing fuel on the fire. Yeah. You're just drugging. The doctor's just giving you drugs. Exactly. And you're not really doing anything about the, you know, the problem at its base, at its core. Yeah, so like there are things that you hear about testosterone of which, once again, I am not a scientific brain, but I hear are necessary. Enough saturated fat, zinc, which is high in red meat,

enough protein, saturated fat is also in red meat, getting into the sun, vitamin D seems fantastic for all hormone health, but particularly testosterone. Lifting heavy things seems like incredible for testosterone. Cold on your balls is great. Sauna is okay, but don't get your balls hot for long periods of time. So I have a girlfriend right now who's trying to get pregnant and her husband is like really into going in the sauna. And so he puts an ice pack on his balls when he's in the sauna. Good idea.

Okay. Also phones in your pocket. Yeah, that's a big one. And that's legit. Yeah, that's a big one. And if you talk to us, so when I had my podcast, I had a Dr. Ellen Goldstein or Feldstein, I think it's Goldstein, who's a fertility specialist in Beverly Hills.

And she said, pot and alcohol. Yeah, those are big ones if you're trying to get pregnant. She said like, guys hate to hear it, but it's like, if you want to have a baby and fertility, and hormone health all leads to fertility, you should stop smoking pot. And she's like, they always hate it, but if they do it, it works.

But you know what? I think that California has really, and all the states that have allowed, nearly all have allowed pot now. But it really shines a light on, okay, what does it really do? When you do legalize a drug, what has happened in society? You obviously can't get the actual causation. You can just get correlation. But it doesn't look like it does great things.

No, it doesn't. For people who are really nauseous from chemotherapy, okay. Yeah. That's legit. You're struggling to have an appetite. That seems great. Yeah. But just generally what it's doing to society,

probably not all that great. Yeah, it's kind of escapism, right? I feel like we're seeing so many different facets of escapism right now because people are generally, we're getting sick and fat and unhealthy and we don't have a lot of these modalities in place right now in society to create more thriving humans.

You really have to break out of the system and if you're not breaking out of the system, then you're smoking weed or over-medicating yourself to escape all that right now. And I'll say, no judgment, I'm also like, I just don't enjoy it. I used to enjoy it very much and now I can speak from a point of view that I don't enjoy it, which sounds really judgy.

So if you enjoy it, enjoy it but also be a generally healthy person is a great idea. Thank you for saying that. make sure you're eating enough. Yeah. Make sure you're eating enough and exercising enough. And once every while, you know, light it up. Yeah. Cause I agree.

I'm, but I also, I enjoy having an edible here and then. There you go. Yeah. I had one last night. It helped me go to sleep. Oh, that's good. What, how, what milligram? I actually don't know what the milligrams are.

It's actually, this is, this is so funny. Wild. They actually happen to be a sponsor of the podcast. This is not a plug, but it's a cured nutrition. They make these little, they call them serenity gummies and it's a really small dose of THC. In fact, it's so small that sometimes I don't really feel anything.

It just makes me feel very relaxed because it has CBD and it has other things. L-theanine? Yeah, I think it has L-theanine, ashwagandha and it just kind of relaxes my nervous system because man I do so many things at night to try to like get right. See that is an oxymoron. You know like I do so many things to try and calm down. That is so true. And it's like just watch The Bachelor. Sit down on the couch like this and watch The Bachelor. I love that.

And all the little medications and all the supplements that we can take, let's just skip them. Like, it's going to be okay. We don't need to do so many things to relax. Oh, my God, I have to relax. Oh, my God. We're driving ourselves nuts. That is me, though.

That is me. I'm like, fuck, I have to do all these things before I can go to bed and like, I need to relax. Sarah, there are some gummies in my house that my wife and mother-in-law take from time to time. They're really low. I think they're like 2.5 or 5. Is it Kiva?

I don't know, but they're right there. And I'm like, ah. But I've eaten pot twice and both times have been heavy, heavy doses of which I've eaten pot twice and both times have been heavy doses of which I've just freaked I've been the worst even if it's 2.5 I just don't want to know about it let's talk about the calming down thing

you got any good things you find really work to calm down the number one thing that's helped me the most is the lighting. So once the sun goes down, I don't use any of my overhead lights like the LEDs, anything like that. I have lamps. I have salt lamps. And then I have these special lamps in my bedroom that have an amber light bulb.

And that's all I use at night. And amber is like orangey red? Yeah, think about like the pink salt crystal lamps that people get. My whole apartment is that color. And it's just a bulb that you get from Amazon and you just plug it in? Yep, so you can do bulbs. And then I also have these other lamps that are from Lofty and they have different settings on them.

So they'll have a regular blue light that I can use earlier in the day if I want. And then I press this one button and at night it turns into this amber light. Oh, that's nice. Really nice. Do you red light? Do you do the thing? Yeah, yeah. I don't do it consistently every night but I'm really trying to because there is so much research coming out right now about how good

red light is for us on so many different levels. Yeah, I believe it. I used to mess around with it. When I first found out about it, I was putting it on my balls like 20 minutes every day. I was probably overkilling it. I used to put it on my face too, but I found that I had dark spots coming up and especially supposed to get rid of that, but I had it coming up.

And so I was like, I don't want to put it on my face anymore. I don't know about it. I'm just like, I'm not sure. So I kind of avoid putting it on my face anymore. So these people, those masks. Oh yeah. What do you think about those? I like them. I will tell you though, I haven't been doing them consistently because of exactly what you just said. I always approach new trends like this with a bit of cautious, like trepidatiousness, because I'm always worried that like when something is really being pushed and there's all these signs coming out, right? We're just like, oh my God, this is amazing. It's doing X, Y, and Z and all this stuff.

Oftentimes when things are really trendy like that, we come back like 10 years later and we're like, ooh, we got that one kind of wrong. Yeah, right. You know? And so with any of this kind of stuff, I try to take it not to an extreme, like I'll do it. And I've been doing the red light, but I am kind of concerned that we're going to come back later and be like, Oh, you're like microwaving yourself. Yeah, yeah. That's it. That's, that's interesting. And I think it's a good point. And I think like, it could be that for cold and hot. Yeah. What we're seeing with sauna and red and cold plunging, it could be that, you know, it's really like a heavy push from society right now

and go, you got to be cold plunging every day, bro. And I cold plunge and I absolutely love it. And I do think that there's an evolutionary, particularly for me as a person who's come from, like my heritage would be Scottish and English, when my ancestors for sure were not taking hot baths for hundreds of years. Like the idea of a hot bath was like, what? You're getting in a hot bath? Are you going to boil water to bath in? That's crazy. All my ancestors were jumping into cold

water to bathe or like washing their clothes in cold water. They were in cold all the time. They're in cold environments all the time. I think that the idea that clothes in cold water. They were in cold all the time. They're in cold environments all the time. I think that the idea that getting in cold water is good for you makes a shit ton of sense for me evolutionarily. Even though the science probably doesn't say that that's the case. Like when I think about it, I'm like, that makes sense. Since when do we take in hot showers and hot baths all the time? Like that's a crazy comfort that has come with the new world.

Do you drink filtered water? Hopefully you do. And hopefully by now you know that tap water is loaded with all sorts of pharmaceutical drugs, pesticides, heavy metals, fluoride, chlorine, et cetera. But what I'm here to talk to you about today is if you are filtering your water, you've got to make sure that you're replenishing the electrolytes and the minerals back in your water.

One of the ways that I love to do this is with Element. It's spelled L-M-N-T. And by looking at the package, you may initially feel a little bit of a shock with the amount of sodium in there. But if you go back and listen to my episode with Dr. James DeNick, who wrote a book called The Salt Fix, he talks all about how we, for the most part, are actually not getting enough salt. We forget that sodium is an imperative part of our fluid and electrolyte balance. We actually need sodium. It's imperative to have it in certain levels. And the majority of Americans are getting most of their salt from processed packaged foods and fast foods and from eating out. So if you are not eating out a lot, which hopefully you're not, but that's a discussion for another day,

most likely you're probably actually not getting enough salt so this is one thing that i love about element is it has a really high sodium level and then it also has potassium and magnesium in there so it's replenishing your electrolytes also i love the saltiness of it there's a couple different flavors that i love the most the grapefruit is hands down my favorite i also really love the raspberry and the watermelon and if you're concerned about the natural flavors, they also just have a raw unflavored as well that has no flavors in it. It just has the sodium, potassium, and magnesium in there. Element gave me a deal to share with you guys, which I love them so much for this. If you guys go to drinkelement.com slash real foodology, that's D-R-I-N-K-L-M-N-T.com slash realfoodology. You're going to get a free

sample pack after you make a purchase. So you get one packet of every flavor so you can try all the different flavors and then see which one you like the best. So again, that is drinkelement.com slash realfoodology. Element is spelled L-M-N-T. That is true. And I've never thought about it like that before. I always look to the Scandinavian countries with their relationship with like the cold plunge and everything. I worked for a Swedish woman for four years and it's so ingrained in their culture. Like that's just what you do in the winter. You literally go and you drill a hole in the ice and you jump in and it's part of their tradition. But they do also have the tradition of the sauna and they've been doing that for a really long time.

So I think when you look at that and how long humans have been doing this, there's got to be some, there has to be some truth to it. I think so. I think so. And then you hear the ideas about, like Peter Atiyah is getting into sauna

and he's like, yeah, he's like, this is legit. I heard some facts about heart attacks and strokes being like the chances of them being lessened by sauna. I believe that. I heard some facts about heart attacks and strokes being like the chances of them being lessened by sauna. I believe that. Yeah. I think for cold for me, it's about the brain. It's about what's going on, the chemistry of the brain, you know,

the increase in norepinephrine and dopamine. Once again, I'm not a science guy. I want to be very open about that. I don't know that that's true, but I've been told that that's true. But I certainly feel really great doing cold plunging and getting out and going, wow, I feel incredible. And so that means a lot to me. Yeah.

It's like an incredible coffee, but better with more dopamine. You know, it's like, wow, you did it, baby. I love that. You just got into that and got out. That was great. Fuck yeah. You've got to film it. That adds to the dopamine.

You're just doping. Yeah. Doping big time. How often do you do the cold plunge? I used to do it every day and now I'm less religious about it. I was doing it like literally every day, every morning. And it became like a habit like that. And then now I get up and go and teach a couple mornings a week,

like at 5 a.m. I'm out the door, so I'm not getting up and cold plunging. And now I'm doing it at night more often. So I'm probably doing it like three days a week. It's always fun to like let things get less religious and become just a part of your life, but not the center of your life. I couldn't agree more.

Also, you don't have to talk about it all the time now. You can talk about other things. That's so true. Like your morning routine. My morning routine. Let's talk about your morning routine. Can you believe I don't, that ice plunging, despite having an ice plunge,

I don't add it to my morning routine? Like I'm not one of those people. Yeah, I am shocked by that. I could be like one of those people like you want to choke legs like cold plunge. Fuck you, you know, but I'm not one of those people. I think my morning routine is very accessible. Okay, so what about yours?

How inaccessible is your morning routine? Actually, mine is not that crazy. I think people have a misunderstanding about me. And I think there's a conception that there's a certain rigidity about me that's not real life for me. Yeah. You're kind of a go with the flow are a bit more than people think. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Well, because I've also been doing this for a very long time. I mean, I've been on this real food train, if you will, for I mean, like 15 years now and everything I'm talking about on

my Instagram, I've been talking about since college. So none of this is new to me. And I don't say that from like, you know, coming from this place of like, you know, superiority, superiority. I'm just saying that I've been doing this for so long that a lot of the things I talk about on my Instagram are just second nature to me. And so I'm not like doing this whole rigid routine. And I'm also, I'm still eating out. Yeah, I'm eating seed oils out because you can't control everything, you know? So I'm not this like perfect person

and I try to get that across as much as I can on my Instagram, but it's also, I'm on a mission to share what's going on right now. So there's this disconnect, you know? Yeah, what a moral failing to eat out and eat seed oils. Oh, I mean, it's awful Yeah, what a moral failing to eat out and eat seed oils. Oh, I mean, it's awful.

You're a terrible person. You know, you could post about that just once in a while. Let people know like, hey, I'm eating fries. Fuck you. You know, let them know. I know, I do. I will tell you though, I'm in this dilemma because then I have these accounts that they wait for me

to like do any sort of mistake and they pounce on it and then they repost it. They love it. Oh, they love it. Like another great example is, it's really popular to vilify alcohol right now. Oh yeah. And I get it.

Like I fully agree. I think the science coming out right now is super valid. I love that Dr. Amen is talking about how alcohol is affecting our brain. It's making us more susceptible to all these different cancers. Like I'm not saying that it's not bad for us. I have a more traditional standing with alcohol

is that we've also been drinking it for thousands of years. And if I have a healthy relationship with alcohol and if I can have a glass of wine here and there at dinner and have one and be totally fine, I like to enjoy it sometimes. Yeah. I think it's good, particularly what I've heard it does for libido and female libido in particular.

I'm like, okay, that's a great payoff. If it means that you're going to go and have beautiful lovemaking now, that's good. And who's going to negate that? Would you rather not have the sex and not have the wine or have a glass of wine and have the sex? Because I know that the sex is better than, like, it's very good for you. Yeah. Also, wine and sex,

like, who doesn't want that? There it is right there. Like, but it's just one glass of wine that makes the effect. And two glasses of wine doesn't do the same thing. Wait, are you serious? Yeah. Oh, I've never heard that. Ben Greenfield did a podcast on these studies showing that just a glass of red wine, just one, not in the

giant glasses. I know everyone's thinking about the giant glasses, just the regular glasses of red wine and its effect on male and female libido, but particularly female. That's interesting. I wish I could give you the PMID right off the top of my head, but I don't know that sort of thing

we'll try to find that and add it to the show notes but yeah so that's my mentality is that occasionally I like to enjoy a glass of wine so sue me and I know it's not the best thing and also there's so many things that I do in my life to ensure that my body is resilient and I do so many things to take care of my health

that every once in a while I want to let loose and have a glass of wine and the whole reason I brought this up is because there was a time that I shared on my Instagram that I was having a glass of wine with a girlfriend. And then there was a whole video made about me calling me a hypocrite because I drink wine. And I was like, okay, everyone needs to calm down. It's just crazy. Ridiculous. And they follow that. So just out of interest, do these people follow you? Or they don't, they're just watching in order to catch you, but they don't follow you?

No. There's a couple of these accounts. There's the one that you mentioned earlier with that guy who literally put a wig on to do... It was a bad blonde wig though, wasn't it? It was horrible. It wasn't a good one. I know, my hair looked terrible on it.

Yeah, that's what was offensive about it. That was so offensive. Like you could have at least gotten the hair right, you know? Like if you're going to do it, do it right. Yeah, that's what was offensive about it. That was so offensive. Like you could have at least gone the hair right, you know, like if you're going to do it, do it right. Yeah, yeah. And so there's a couple accounts like that, him and there's another one. And they're just waiting essentially for me to make any sort of,

any little slip up or mistake. And I mean, I kind of just have to get over it and just own it. But that's kind of why I don't really live in that middle ground of being like, see, I'm eating fries. Like not that I don't want to show that, but I also think there is a fine line because we're at this place right now in this country where people don't fully grasp how bad we're eating.

And there's this narrative of, oh, everything in moderation, but then they're not understanding that everything that they're eating is doused in glyphosate. And if you're not eating organic, you're getting exposed to all these other chemicals. And if you're not understanding that everything that they're eating is doused in glyphosate. And if you're not eating organic, you're getting exposed to all these other chemicals. And if you're not drinking filtered water. And so there's a lot of nuance that needs to happen where if you're not also paying attention to all of that,

you could think that you're eating really healthy and not be eating as healthy as you are. And then you're adding the French fries on top of it and everything else. Yeah, so you're kind of saying like, you'd rather not be in the everything in moderation camp by showing that you do eat fries every once in a while. You'd rather be a good example,

even if you're not a perfect example in truth all the time. Yeah. Yeah, I understand. Yeah, but... It does preach a good... Yeah, I understand. But again, I am careful. If people listen to my podcast all the time,

they know that I go out and I eat chips and salsa and French fries that I know that are being cooked in canola oil from time to time because it's just the reality of the situation. And I don't want to create this unhealthy... Because when I was younger and I was really getting into all of this, I was not going to dinner with friends

because I didn't want to be exposed to this stuff. And then I realized that there was a mental health aspect that was really unhealthy. So you need to define that balance. So I do share about it, but it's just not as consistently as people probably would want to see. Yeah. Yeah. It is important to note that community is, you know, as important as your diet in many cases. So going out with friends and having that time with them of connection is vitally important important as vital as you know anything else um i do want to ask you about organic but let me just tell you my incredible

morning routine first throw in your skin care too what throw in your skin care my skin oh i'll tell you about that but that's that's impressive but my um my my my morning routine is this i work some morning so i don't do a morning routine. I just go to work. And then other mornings I'm with my sons and I get up and we just fart around and wrestle and play with toys. This is great. You should definitely all do this. And then I cook for them and see how I haven't had any time to myself yet.

Yeah. I haven't gotten to do anything. What I do get up and do is drink a large glass of water with electrolytes. And then later on, I want to get into the sun. So I take my sons outside and we get, you know, we don't try and get sunlight in our eyes. We just go outside. And we spend some time out there.

And we try and do that in the winter months too. And then I caffeinate about an hour after. I try to have about 30 to 50 grams of protein after about an hour or two. And then I do like a spiritual thing where I read the Bible and I have a little journal that just asks me some questions like what are you grateful for today? What do you want to pray?

What do you want to pray today? Like who do you want to pray for? And who are you? Which is a question that's like a little bit more Christian. So I'm a Christian if you didn't gauge that in the last 30 seconds. But it's like, you know, I am essentially like a child because I'm a person who's not in control of my life. Now, children are obviously not in control of their lives,

but we are all not in control of our lives. We have this idea that we may be in control, but we're not at all. Kids are quite obviously not in control of their lives. So I always write something like, I'm a child who's in God's arms, aka I'm taken care of and I need to fall back into the arms and stop trying to hold on and control.

So it's like a release, like a child just over, like my son knows every morning we're going to get him up, we're going to give him food, he's going to be taken care of. I want to have that same trust in God. It's that same thing. I love that that so that's like a little little practice it's not it's very accessible so what have we got hydrating caffeinating protein some spiritual aspect and some sunlight and that's it yeah okay deep that's actually less than what i was expecting from you i was expecting a whole like and then i sauna and then I cold plunge.

No, no, I don't go. Well, yeah. So that's what I mean. It's really accessible. That's great. Because you got to be a dad. Like you can't really fuck around with all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. How is it being a dad? Do you love it? I love being a dad. I was telling my wife before, you know, my son right now is in this stage where he doesn't want to go to sleep unless you're going to go to sleep too.

And so that means that I have to sleep up in his room sometimes. But usually what I do is I'm putting him to bed and I'll go, I'll be back and I do come and sleep with him because he wakes up in the middle of the night scared and then he wants to get out of his cot and come downstairs. And last night he was like, come on, come on. I'm like, I'm not coming to bed right now. I'll come to bed later.

And he kind of left like a bit cryy and I just feel it so much when he's sad. I'm a sucker. I'm absolutely sucked in and stuffed. Then today he had, anyway, he was at his daycare and he got diarrhea and he had to come home. When my wife told me that, honestly, I get stabbed in the heart. And I'm like, I can't explain this because it's not a feeling that I've ever really felt before.

I'm like, I'm so connected to this child. I'm so connected to him. And there's a second one who's one. And I'm connected with him too, but not so much as the third, like the one who's three. I'm just so, I feel him so deeply when he's sad and when he's hurt and when he's sick. I heard that happens. I heard that it's, it takes a little bit of time and maybe I'm totally wrong in your situation, but that it takes a little bit of

time for them to actually develop into a human where you really start to feel that connection. Dad's later than mom's. Mom's obviously feel a connect, can feel a connection really, can feel a connection really early. For me, I always found that around nine months was like, okay, it's go time for daddy. It's like they're moving, they're crawling, they're awake, they're alive, they can look at you and it's like now you're involved and then once the more you get involved, the more that you love them and the more that they love you.

And I think what people talk about is like, oh, how much you love them and how great that is. But the way that they love you is so, I don't know what to call it, heartbreaking. It's just crazy. You get home and you're like, daddy. And they come up for a hug and you're like, oh my God. You just melt right there.

Yeah, I'm totally stuffed. I'm totally at his beck and call. It's so sweet to hear a man talk about this because you don't hear about this as often, men talking about it in that way. So I really appreciate that. I'm very excited to be a mom. Yeah.

Are you going to be great? Are you planning on it? Yeah. Okay, nice. With him. Yeah, yeah. We've had many conversations. Oh, nice.

It was not a surprise. That's exciting. It's so much fun and I recommend it because it's like, also for me, I don't think as a man I was ever like, I was like,

I don't know if I'll ever be ready and kind of the best thing to do if you don't know if you'll ever be ready is to just do it. Yeah. Which sounds like terrible advice.

It also goes like, okay, why do you want to have kids? And it's like, maybe there's not a great reason but it's just the right, it's just a fucking good thing to do yeah i agree it's taken me off myself like completely yeah i'm just on like i just told you about this my son chaplain i'm on him i'm off me

see i love that and i think that's so important for people because we get to a certain age and i feel like i actually think that it's better for us and as a society to have something else to worry about than just ourselves. Yes. You know? Yeah. There's also like an idea that sometimes I catch myself talking about the pros and the pros of having children and I make it all about me. Kind of like it takes me off me. Sounds like it's a, it sounds like it's a good thing for me. Yeah. And that is is the case but the reason that i'm off me is because i'm taking care of something that is more precious than me in a way like it's like you are more important than me and it gives you a greater purpose yeah yeah it really does it's uh

i mean honestly if i'm if i'm like i've never really talked about this but you know the whole christianity thing and the idea in christianity God is the father. That's the, always talked about throughout the Bible. And what I see when I'm with my son and I'm, when I'm a good dad, I'm like, oh, this is God, the father. I let him do things that are dangerous, but I'm watchful and I'm there, but I'm like standing back. And if he's being careful, then I let him go. But if he's not being careful, I step in and I'm like standing back and if he's being careful then I let him go but if he's not being careful I step in and I'm like you know that's God the father and when he's walking down when he's walking on like a tree trunk and he could fall like I'm there and I may step in to catch you but I'm I also if you kind of slip I actually wouldn't mind if you did fall because it'll be good for you to figure out how to do it right. That's God the Father too. Yeah.

You know, it's all these ways, like the way in which, like I just told you, when he wakes up, he knows he's taken care of. That's God the Father as well. He doesn't even think, oh, I'm taken care of. He's like, I'm taken care of? Of course I'm taken care of. Yeah. They're going to get me up and give me food today.

Yeah. And they're going to take me and do things. Like they got me. They don't even think about it. You know, that's God the Father too yeah i love that yeah um i just want to say i love your videos so much with is chaplain chaplain the three-year-old yeah the the videos of i'm gonna totally mess this up because i don't remember the exact context but of him like talking about his poop yeah no not his poo he just we're gonna we're gonna hike every saturday or friday saturday and uh. We go on a hike every Saturday or Friday or Saturday

and for some reason on this hike people just let their dog shit everywhere and just shit everywhere. And so on this hike he's just like poo. Everywhere he sees a poo he just yells out poo and he points at it. He's like poo and kind of celebrates there's poo. And he wants to look at it and it's such a joy. He just loves poo so much. If I go, I've got to go poo. And he's like look at it. And it's such a joy. He just loves poo so much. He want, he want to watch, like, if I go, I'm going to, I got to go poo.

And he's like, I'm coming. And I'm like, no, you're not. You're staying here. He's like, no, I'm coming. He wants to watch you poo. That's like my dog. Does your dog watch you poo? He tries to.

Oh, wow. He literally, I was in the bathroom the other day, fully closed the door. And he just, boom, like bum rushes, like opens the door, like slams his whole body against the door just to get into the bathroom with me. And I'm like, what is the need to be in here with me? Yeah, it's fascinating. I mean and he watches like Cara P and Pooh 2, like really

wants to understand how it all works. I'm like, this is an education. I mean it really is. It's probably good. It's probably like, great. I want you to understand what it all looks, how it all works. I mean, it's how they learn, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

So how do you approach health with your kids? We just feed them, you know, my one-year-old eats whatever he's given. He's fantastic. And when my son Chaplin was, when he was one, he was the same way. And then as time goes on, he gets more and more picky and you're like, we're serving you this great food. food why aren't you eating it of which you end up eating it because

i hate because i grew up you know lower middle class so you just want to nothing can go to waste you have to eat it which means you get an you get into an energy surplus very quickly because you're eating one and a half meals you know essentially uh so yeah so the i'd say the best thing we i've found is like okay he's picky but present him with the great food anyway and just keep doing it so sometimes like because we almost got into a habit where it was like well we know he's not going to eat it so we're just not going to present it and we'll just give him popcorn we'll just give him these you know we've got these like nice chips or whatever they're cooked in not bad oils and we're like and i'm like no always present make sure that he knows that it bad oils. And we're like, and I'm like, no, always present,

make sure that he knows that it's there. And sometimes he'll eat it and sometimes he won't. But if he complains about it, it's like, this is what's for dinner. And that's that we're not making you anything else. Yes. You know, and just keep presenting. That's actually really important parenting to do. Do you know Kelly Levesque? Be well, be Kelly. So she's a good friend of mine. She's also a, I don't know her exact title, but she's a nutritionist that works with clients and she has three kids. And she talks about this all the time for kids. It's so important that you need to continue to present these foods to them because in the beginning, of course, they're going to be like, Oh no, like I don't want this. I don't like it. But if you keep introducing it to them,

they eventually, they, they develop a palate for it. But what happens is oftentimes parents after two or three times are like, oh, nevermind. Like they're just not ever going to eat it or touch it. And that's how you create a picky child. So you want to keep presenting it to them. And also another really good thing is, so my mom used to do this with me is that she told me when I was little, she refused to make another, a separate meal for her and my dad. And for me, she was like, you're eating what we're all eating. And if you're not going to eat it, then you're going to go to bed hungry and you're going to learn your lesson.

And she said that I did it one time and she said it was the hardest thing ever. She cried all night because I was crying. I was starving because I refused to eat. And my mom was like, okay, if you don't eat, you're going to go to bed hungry. And she said, I never did it ever again. You always ate the meal. Exactly. Wow. That is good. I heard from somebody, Boob to Food, I think her name is.

Boob to Food. She does like weaning babies. And when they're getting off milk and they're getting into hard foods, she kind of nails that. But she nails cooking for the whole family, including toddlers and babies, which is a really good follow actually. But she said no baby or no child has ever had any health issues from missing one meal. If they're going to miss it, but this is what's for dinner. I'm not making you anything else. Yeah. Well, because you set the precedence

and so yeah, you can allow them to get away with things yeah yeah that's right i've been actively telling my son no recently just sometimes for the hell of it because i notice like he gets yes like a lot when we go out like he'll like you'll do the he'll we say no he'll throw a tantrum i'm like okay well then you're gonna hear no more about the things that you want to do and i need to practice getting better at telling you no, so that, you know, you're not hearing yes all the time. So I've been actively going no. And recently it's, it's good. Cause it's good for me. Cause as I said, I'm a sucker for him and I'll do anything. I really want to do anything for him, but I'm like, I'm not going to have a brat. Like we can't have a brat. So I just, I'm saying no. You know, we had this,

we were at the trampoline park the other day and it's all these shiny games, you know, that you can shoot things and ride bikes and, you know, things like those games. Oh yeah, like arcade games. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was just getting on all of them. He wouldn't get off and he was like,

and I'm like, hey, we're at the trampoline park. Let's go on, get on the trampolines. And he's like, I'm like, nah. And I'm like, hey, we're at the trampoline park. Let's go on, get on the trampolines. And he's like, I'm like, nah. And I'm like, I could, I could just give in and pay two bucks and let him do this. But I'm like, no, I'm gonna say no. Stay strong, daddy. Say no, because you gotta just stay strong.

Yeah, say no. And so like, yeah, that's something I'm working on right now is actively just saying no so that he doesn't become a little brat. I think that's super important. Yeah, gotta hear no. Yeah. I had no all the time.

Sorry, get into the next one. No, no, you're good. You're good. No, I love this. I'm gonna take it a different direction because I'm really curious to hear your experience. So you grew up in Australia, right? Where in Australia?

Sydney. Okay. Yeah. When did you move over here? And when you moved over here, did you notice a stark difference in your health and how you felt eating the foods here in America compared to Australia?

Good question. I think when I moved over here 15 years ago, so I was like 20, 21 and I was previously living with my mom who cooked me my meals and then you come over and you're like, oh my God, I got to cook for myself and at first I was kind of flirting with vegetarianism.

And I don't know why I stopped doing that. I guess, you know, you slowly figure it out. So I was a model when I came over here. I was a model slash actor. I'm not surprised by that at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I was a little, you know, I was a little bitch. I kind of looked like a little bitch.

And I was skinny. You fully have the look for it. You're like a Greek god over here. I was skinny. Well, but this was back in the day I was just a skinny little bitch and you fully have the look for it so yeah a greek god over here skinny oh well but this was back in the day was just a skinny little bitch you know and so i was you know flirting with vegetarianism and as you know and that's how i kind of got into health was just vanity it was just like okay how do i look my best and then then you're like oh actually this is really interesting and i and i started to love it did i notice anything different with the food

system obviously the choice was there i started eating those is a butterfingers they were amazing i love those wow those were incredible i mean i was like i was i've never experienced this level of fat shit before you know but uh i have a keto butterfinger for you actually that's like incredible are you a keto gal uh i flirt with keto. Yeah. You favor fats to carbs? Yes, but I'm really more favoring protein because I am trying to focus more on the building muscle. Oh, okay, good. How's it going? It's going decent. It's a lot harder for women. Yeah, it can take some time. Yeah, it would be a lot harder for women because of the testosterone,

the hormone. Exactly. What are you doing? You're taking, are you eating mostly meat? Do you supplement with whey or? Yeah, so I do. I actually don't, I do whey occasionally, but whey kind of messes with my stomach. Because of the lactose or? I don't know what it is.

Is it the A? It might be the lactose. That's why I want to ask you about your so we'll talk about your protein shake next what I've been doing lately is there's this brand called Equip Foods that does beef protein isolate and so I've been switching back and forth

because I've noticed if I do whey consistently then I start getting bloated I start kind of having some digestive issues but I can kind of go back and forth where I'll do whey and then I'll do beef protein isolate. So I have like two different ones I really like to use. Yeah. I think beef protein like sounds really great. It just, as a person, as an entrepreneur, I'm like, I just don't foresee people getting into it, you know, not seeing it on the back of their chocolate shake. And it says beef proteins like, you know, it's kind of sounds gross,

but it's amazing. I mean, I know it's amazing. It's just like, it's maybe a hard sell. I know. It is. I've actually had a lot of people write me too saying that they didn't really like the equipped foods because it tasted kind of meaty to them. Yeah.

And it kind of ruined it for me a little bit, if I'm being honest, because I'd never really thought that. Then I was like, oh, God. Yes, yes. That is kind of gross, but I still just power through them, you know? Yeah, yeah, good.

Yeah, it's good. Because you've got to get it in when you're trying to build muscle. What about essential aminos? So I was taking branch chain amino acids for a while from Kion. Oh, wow. No, you mean essential, not branch. Oh. I don't do a branch chain.

You don't? Or is that what it is? Kion does essential. It's the essential, yeah. They're against branch chain. Oh, they are against it. They don't like branch chain. They talk shit on branch chain. Oops.

Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah. I get the lingo a little bit because I get it mixed up because I come from a real food approach. Yeah. And I feel like there is kind of a different angle when you're coming more from the fitness world because I didn't really study a lot of that stuff. Well, yeah, it's very like hypertrophy-based ideas that are very lab-made kind of stuff.

It's not whole food. Exactly. You know, all the nine essential amino acids have perfect ratios in meat and milk and dairy products. So you don't really need to be thinking about it if you're a whole food person. But if you want to be a beast and you want to up-level, essential amino is really great.

Branch chain, from what I hear, is kind of a very expensive P project. Like if you want to pee really expensively, branched chain amino acids are that. So Keon does a really great essential amino acid and what's in it is really high levels of leucine. I think it's about two grams of leucine, which is the perfect dose to switch on mTOR, the mTOR pathway, which is the muscle protein synthesis thing. So that's good.

Okay, so maybe I need to get back on those. I actually have the founder coming on the podcast soon. Yeah, Angelo's awesome. He's amazing. I'm glad you're talking to him. Yeah. And he's just a factoid, because he sells essential amino acids, so he knows everything about it.

He knows his shit. He really does. And he's really great. You'll love him. So let's talk about your product. You mentioned it earlier. What made you create it? Because oftentimes people create a product because there was a gap in the market. So what did you want?

Exactly what I want. What I wanted was something that I could drink that was for me. And it's kind of a, because with entrepreneurs and starting a brand, there's always got to be a story. Yeah, tell us your story. They always say, oh my God, what's your story? And I was like, oh, I wish I was like really skinny and pathetic and I really need, and this was the only thing that did it.

But it wasn't that. It was like, I want something that's great. I just want a great protein drink that isn't full of crap and that was it simple as that amen go and get any protein drink on the market right now why have they got 20 different ingredients when all you want is the protein exactly like why have you got any of this stuff yeah you know it's like it's and it's to make it taste good and it still doesn't taste good i know that's the thing and so i'm you know that was my big question i was like well why can't we just kind of like mix something together here

and make a really minimal ingredients, high protein drink? And my co-founder, she is a cheese maker, former cheese maker. So she would make cheeses and obviously the runoff from cheese is whey. And she was like, I actually make whey. And we were just talking. I was like, I want to do a protein drink. She's like, I make whey. And she's like, what if I added whey isolate to liquid whey, to fresh whey? And that's kind of an, you know, a unique spin on protein drinks. And then it was working and it's working and it tasted good. And we started

messing around with flavors and sweeteners and trying to keep the ingredients list to about six with 30 grams of protein, low fat, low carb. And we managed to do it and we released it. We did a soft launch a couple of weeks ago and we're doing a stiff. So we did a flaccid launch two weeks ago. We're doing a big, hard, stiff launch. A big, rotten, big one, thick girthy launch next week or the week after.

Sorry, sorry, mid-March. So we're very excited about the big stiff girthy launch. But it's difficult because it's fresh and it's got to be kept fresh. So it's got to be kept refrigerated and we don't want to add preservatives to it. We don't want it to be this kind of like fair life, like bottle that's like, you know, light can't see it and it lasts for two years and you don't know how that works. And it's like, I don't want it to be that. So we're going to, we've got to fight to make it work so that it has a shelf life so that by the time

it reaches you, even if it's gotten warm and shipping, that it still reaches you fresh. And so this is the battle. And this is why people don't do it. This is why no one's done it. Like we're kind of taking it on and going, ah, there's got to be a way. And so we're fighting that fight right now and figuring out and learning so much

about the entire process of manufacturing something that's fresh and that is minimal ingredients and that the idea that people, a food scientist can come to us and go, oh, what about this preservative? Like, nah, don't want to know about it. Because if we add that, we've got to write it on the ingredients list and we really don't want to do that.

We were using an instantized whey isolate with sunflower lecithin in it. And I was like, oh, well, it's instantized, that's great. But it's instantized, the process of making it instantized, which means it melts in liquid, takes sunflower lecithin to make that happen. And I'm like, well, it's not the worst because I'm sure it's minimal, but have I got to write sunflower lecithin on the ingredients? They're like, yep. I'm like, I don't want it then.

Like I don't want to have to put it on the back. Like I just, because people are going to have their issues with it. And I know as a consumer, I have my issues with it. I just don't want anything that's in there for no fucking reason. Sorry to swear. I just don't want it in there for no reason. Just don't want to be like making our life easier when it can just make our life

harder and we hit a market of people who are really appreciative of not fucking with us. I love this so much. I'm so excited to try it. When do I get to try it? I want you to try it immediately, but we're going to do another production run and... I'll catch you on the hard launch.

Yeah, yeah. I knew that she... Court wants the hard one. I want the hard one. She doesn't want the flaccid. Yeah, yeah. And when I saw on your ingredient label, you put something in there to help with the digestibility of whey.

Lactase. Lactase, yeah. I love that you did that. Yeah. I'm really excited to try it. I think like 60% of the world is lactose intolerant and that can be built up over time apparently um but i just didn't want to mess with that i didn't want people have people writing and going i'm lactose intolerant a lot of people are and kind of like opening up the market like for

a more digestible protein drink so that you know if you taste if you try it and it does irritate you, then you can go, well, it's not the lactose. It must be something else. Yeah. You know, and people do have problems with dairy protein. There is like particularly A2, it seems, can upset people's stomachs too. Oh. Of which A2 is casein, so we don't have any casein in there.

It's just whey. No whey. So, yeah, we added lactase and it's also a natural sweetener so kind of like brings out the lactose which is sweet which is milk sugar and it kind of brings it out a bit more so you don't have to put so much sweetener on top of that i love that essentially pre-digest the lactose or anyone who's interested but yeah 100 lactose free amazing pretty cool well just in the essence of time, do you have anything else that you wanted to talk about before we end?

I want to, okay, so somebody the other day, I was having a talk with my friend who's a bodybuilder, absolutely obsessed with health and fitness and science and stuff. And somebody posted that organic is a scam. And we were talking about it. He posted, I go, organic is a, I go, I agree with most of this stuff that he was saying is a scam, but organic is a scam. And we were talking about it. He posted it. I go, organic is a scam. I go, I agree with most of this stuff that he was saying is a scam, but organic is a scam?

I don't think organic is a scam. I think it's a necessity because of the food system that we see that we need to have an organic section. It's either one of a few things. Like there are Americans who are just bitches who are like, there should be organic. And they make demands and the food system goes, fine. And then the other side of it where it's like, it's necessary because of all the shit they put on non-organic things.

So scam or not scam? Oh, it's not a scam. I will say though, there is some nuance. So let's talk about the nuance here. So organic food is what our food used to be before we started spraying all of our food with these highly carcinogenic pesticides and herbicides and fungicides.

When you go back before, I don't know the exact time period, but let's say maybe like before like the 1960s, all food was just organic. And so there is this, I think people are attacking organic food right now because they don't want to be paying more. And there is this concept of

we are essentially having to pay more money to not be poisoned by our government right now, which is infuriating. And then you add on too with organic. So organic is not perfect, but it's the best we have right now. Knowing how much we're spraying all of our food with this stuff,

the most concerning one to me is the glyphosate piece. And a lot of people will fight back and they say, okay, well, organic also uses pesticides and herbicides. That is true, but it's a much smaller list. And the herbicides and pesticides that are allowed to be sprayed on organic food are not the ones that we're the most concerned about. The ones that we're most concerned about are like things like glyphosate. And organic is ensuring that your food is not doused in glyphosate. And so that to me is why it's the most important. Organic is not perfect. And just like there's corruption happening in big pharma and in big food

and in our healthcare system, there is also corruption happening in organic. And I'm sure there's things that are getting slid under the rug and there's corruption happening there, but it's literally the best we have right now. Yes. It's like all claims grass-fed to upcycled and these are sustainability claims. There's a lot of bullshit in that too. Regenerative, like there's bullshit everywhere. Oh yeah.

And there are people trying to lie to us in order to make some money. And you kind of just have to like, if you can't grow your own, you've got to go the best you can possibly do. And if you can't go fancy organic and spend more, then honestly whole food is, you know, I don't even, I wouldn't even speak to this,

but meat is low in glyphosate. Yeah. All kinds, every kind of meat, whether it's grass-fed or not. And you think about too from a, if you're really on a budget from a getting your best, what is that saying? Like the best buck for your-

Yeah, bang for your buck. Thank you. I had a total brain your... Yeah, bang for your buck. Thank you. I had a total brain fart. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, so getting the best bang for your buck is buying really nutritious foods and the foods that are gonna last longer for you, like nutritionally speaking,

and that are really gonna, yeah, be the most nutritious for your body are things like grass-fed beef, for example, or not even grass-fed. If you can only afford conventional beef, that's going to go a lot longer for you than if you're just buying like rice, for example, or rice and beans, because it's going to be more satiety, satiating. And so you're going to over time end up eating less food than if you were to just be, you know, carb loading with the beans and rice, you're going to end up eating more food. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, good. I'm glad we

talked about this. It's not a scam. So Nutrition Bank, Kevin, my friend who I had the argument with, not a scam. You heard it here. Not a scam. Good. I win the argument, Kevin. Yeah, Kevin, call me. Let's have a chat. I would love to. All right. So I want to ask you a personal question that I ask all my guests at the end. I'm very curious to hear what yours is. What are your health non-negotiables? These are things that no matter how crazy your day is, these are things that you prioritize for your own health. Well, when it really comes down to it, I will fight to try and eat enough protein and exercise, but we also talking about a really crazy day and a really crazy day i have to have be having fun i have to integrate fun into the day or i do go insane i could forego exercise and all the protein

if i'm having fun and so if i'm having a crazy day as long as we're like playful and having fun with each other that that beats everything. I think it trumps everything is having fun and surrounding my life with fun people. Like, are you fun? Cool. If you're not fun, you are not welcome here. Like, honestly. You can't sit with us.

You just can't sit with us. Like, you're just going to be offended all the time or get pissy about this and that. You're not welcome. But if you're here to have fun and you can find the fun and the funny in everything, then we're going to have a great time. I love that so much. What a way to end this episode too, because I'm the same way. I feel

we take things too seriously sometimes and you got to be able to interject that playfulness and you do a great job of this on your Instagram, by the way. Yeah. You bring a lot of fun to a lot of people's lives, I think, which is really cool. Thank you. Yeah. I try to do that. Yeah. Well, you're doing a great job at it. Thank you. So please let everyone know where they can find you and also where they can find ShakeWell. Yeah, great. With that hard launch. You can find me at thelukecook on TikTok and Instagram

and you can find ShakeWell at getshakewell.com. Subscribe for like up to 35% off. This should just be on the top of my head, but it's not. Sales, up to 35% off. This should just be on the top of my head, but it's not. Sales, up to 35% off. Yeah, try it, try it. I'm excited to try it. Thanks so much, Luke.

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