Realfoodology - Eating To Beat Cancer | Elissa Goodman

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

EP. 198: I am thrilled to welcome Elissa Goodman, renowned for her transformative cleanses and holistic approach to nutrition, to the RealFoodology podcast. I’ve been using Elissa’s cleanses for years and greatly admire her approach to diet and nutrition. On today’s episode, we delve into the crucial role of cleansing the body, particularly in the face of insufficient support from our healthcare system, as Elissa shares her personal journey of resilience post-cancer diagnosis. From advocating for plant-based diets and the healing power of juicing to navigating essential nutrients like protein and the impact of sugar on cancer, this episode explores the intersection of diet, wellness, and disease prevention. Topics Discussed  07:25 - Elissa’s cleanses  08:55 - The importance of cleansing your body  13:27 - Lack of support from our health care system 16:07 - Elissa’s backstory + cancer diagnosis 20:54 - Plant based dieting, juicing, + healing  23:10 - Plant based vs plant first diet 24:52 - Getting enough protein   32:36 - Sugar feeds cancer 34:32 - CRP, your gut + cancer risk  38:35 - Arsenic, Mold, + Lead 42:10 - Ozone therapy  43:26 - Diet protocol for cancer  46:55 - The importance of self love  49:14 - Healing through a positive outlook  51:43 - Options for nutrient dense food  55:47 - Aging gracefully  57:31 - Blood work, GI maps, nutrient deficiency test  01:01:56 - Elissa’s health non negotiables Check Out Elissa Goodman:  Instagram Newsletter & Cleanses  Cancer Hacks: A Holistic Guide to Overcoming your Fears and Healing Cancer Show Links:  191: Stop Aging + Enhance Focus | Dr. Greg Kelly of Neurohacker 156: The Key To Improved Health and Longevity + Mitochondrial Health | Chris Rinsch Lacy Phillips, To Be Magnetic Gwen Dittmar, Breathwork Radical Remission: Surviving Cancer Against All Odds Sponsored By:  NeuroHacker Go to neurohacker.com/realfoodology for up to $100 off and use code REALFOODOLOGY for an extra 15% off Organifi Use Code: REALFOODOLOGY for %20% off  at www.organifi.com/realfoodology  Olive Oil Get a free $39 bottle at Getfresh324.com and only pay $1 shipping Timeline Go to timelinenutrition.com/REALFOODOLOGY and use code REALFOODOLOGY for 10% off Check Out Courtney:  LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide! @realfoodology www.realfoodology.com My Immune Supplement by 2x4 Air Dr Air Purifier AquaTru Water Filter EWG Tap Water Database Produced by Drake Peterson Edited By: Mike Frey

On today's episode of The Real Foodology Podcast. I just think that, you know, it's so important to like feel great and also to transfer that to your kids and to transfer it to your grandkids. I mean, I think it's just a huge gift. Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of The Real Foodology Podcast. As always, I'm your host, Courtney Swan. And today's guest is Alyssa Goodman. Now, if you live in L.A, you probably know exactly who she is. You have probably seen her superseded bars at Air One, which are fantastic, by the way. Or you may be well

versed in her Alyssa Goodman cleanse. If you follow me on Instagram, you've probably seen this cleanse before because I post about it periodically. I like to get this cleanse just to really maximize the amount of vegetables that I'm getting and just feel really good in my body because I talk about this often on my Instagram and not enough on my podcast. I'm not a fan of cleanses, like traditional in the sense that we think about depriving yourself, not eating enough food. The really classic one is like a juice cleanse where you just drink juices for days and you starve yourself. Now, this is not the type of cleanse that I'm talking about. And it's why I fell in love with Alyssa Goodman's cleanse is because you actually get real food with

it. You get tonics in the morning. You have these PM tonics that you drink at night. You have these really amazing, delicious salads with the best salad dressing I've ever had and a really delicious plant forward soups. Now I actually just bought one of these recently just to simply have for meals every day because every single meal that you get in that cleanse is just loaded with vegetables and the food actually tastes really good. So I did not mean to spend that much time talking about her cleanses, but as you guys can tell, I'm a huge fan. And more importantly, the reason why I brought Alyssa Goodman on today is because not only is she doing really amazing work and she to the fact that a lot of people are getting cancer diagnoses and they're getting younger and younger. And I don't tell you guys this to scare you, but knowledge is power. As we know, education is power. And I'm really interested in talking to as many people as I can

from different facets of life, whether they've gone through cancer themselves, or if they treat cancer. I love talking to cancer doctors because I think that this is going to be a really important conversation for a lot of us moving forward. I mean, a lot of you probably already have been touched by cancer, whether it was you, someone in your family, one of your friends. And unfortunately, that's going to be more of our stories as time goes on. And so it's just incredibly important that we have these conversations so we can talk about preventative care and also how to get through it if you yourself is diagnosed or if somebody else that you know and you love has been diagnosed. So Alyssa Goodman was diagnosed with cancer at, I believe it was 32 years old.

And then her husband also went through it. So we really spend a lot of time talking about diet from a cancer perspective, what she recommends for people. She is an amazing holistic nutritionist with just a wealth of knowledge in the whole subject. And so I wanted to bring her on to talk about all this. So I'm not going to spend any more time on the intro. I'm just going to let you guys dive into the episode. I hope you love it as much as I enjoyed talking with Alyssa. She's an amazing guest and I really hope you enjoyed the episode. As always, if you could take a moment to rate and review the podcast, it not only means a lot to me, it really, really helps this show. And if you want to give a little

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how wonderful it is to be with you because I followed you on Instagram but I think we passed each other at events but never really sat down and talked and like got to know each other so this was such a beautiful invite I have to say thank you yeah well thank you so much for coming on I feel like it's been a long time coming I have to say thank you. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on. I feel like it's been a long time coming. I've wanted to bring you on for a long time because like you said, I always see you at events. I'm also, I'm such a huge fan of your cleanse. I literally tell all my friends about it all the time because I will tell you just a little back story about me. When I got really into health when I was younger, I did a lot of like juice cleanses and I just felt like I found myself on a path for a while where I was like really depriving myself a lot,

where I would do these like six day juice cleanses and just be dying by the end of it. And so for a while, I like really wrote them off. I was like, I don't want to do that anymore. It doesn't feel healthy. I want to be able to eat food. So anytime my girlfriends talk about cleansing, I'm like, oh, you have to try Alyssa Goodman's because you actually eat food. And they're delicious. Your food is so good. I mean, it's just so crazy how I got into the cleansing world, you know, but it is really fun to feed people. Like, because I, we will talk about, you know, how food is medicine. And even more importantly, just nutrients, people aren't getting nutrients. So. So you get over 50 different vegetables in my cleanse in five days. And no one can really say that, that they eat that at home.

So it's kind of wild. And I do. I am a foodie. I don't like deprivation, starvation. And I just feel like if you eat the right food, your body knows how to metabolize. And like these cleansers are losing weight in five days with eating more food than they normally eat. So it's been really fun to teach them how to eat better and also not to starve themselves like that. Like you were saying, a cleanse isn't about that. Yes. Well, it actually, I was going to ask you about that, what your thoughts are in cleansing, because I feel like, I think this is kind of like an F you to the diet, you know, like the whole like anti-diet culture rhetoric that's been going on online. And I agree with some of it and some of

it I don't. And one of the criticisms I hear about cleansing is, oh, well, your body has liver and kidneys for a reason. You don't need to do a cleanse because your body's already doing it. I have thoughts that I think are similar to yours, but I want to know what your thoughts are on that. I just think that, you know, we are born toxic. You know, we come out of the mother's womb toxic with quite a few toxins. And then we're exposed, and especially nowadays, we're exposed to way more toxins,

heavy metals, you know, pesticides, as you know, like just like crap in our food. And then also like fillers and additives and supplements and food, right? So I just think that, you know, we can't keep up. The liver and the kidneys can't keep up and the gut cannot and the colon can't keep up detoxing all of these toxins out of the body. So I think it's just crucial that we kind of like really take notice of what we're ingesting and also what we're putting on our skin and what we're using as our home products and all of that. I think they all need to be somewhat clean. Maybe

you don't have to be 100%, but I would say I adhere to 80. Yeah. Yeah. I have the same mind as you. And I talk about this a lot on the podcast, actually, that I'm becoming increasingly concerned as we're seeing cancer rates rising. We're also just seeing autoimmune, diabetes, cardiovascular disease. We're seeing so much of this stuff rise right now. And then we're also hearing, you know, how much we're being exposed to all this different stuff. Like you just said, the pesticides in our food, there's stuff in our tap water. There's so many things that we do have to worry about. And I tell people, like, do the best you can, but also doing things like eating really good whole real foods, but also doing things like taking supplements and maybe also can be really helpful with the detoxification process.

Not just the food, but also hydration, the right water, getting really hydrated. Because like we have a dehydrated society. Like we really are drinking all this beautiful bottled water, but we're not getting minerals in the water. So we're not absorbing it. So that can be a problem for like really detoxing and also motility. You know, going to the bathroom. And I don't know if you know this, but it's kind of crazy when I tell people, but going to the bathroom once a day is considered constipated these days. Wait, really?

Yes. I'm sorry. I know. So then I get constipated. Also, sorry. Everyone knows now. Go two and three times a day. We're supposed to actually eat food, have it go through the system, and go out. And we don't go to the bathroom. Some people, as you know, don't go to the bathroom for days. And then they're just so happy when they go once.

But we are supposed to go multiple times a day. Well, I need to work on that. I do too. I mean, honestly, I'm like, I'm not perfect. I know. But when you hydrate and you focus on your fiber, you know, really, and you also sleep well because that's when the body really goes into the rest and digest mode. And most of us don't sleep as well. And when we exercise, you know, those are things that we can easily do but we forget about.

And maybe manage our stress a little better because when we're stressed, everything shuts down. So we don't really digest our food. That's a problem. So that's, I mean, it's not rocket science here. I know, but it seems like people are increasingly having a harder time with that too. And I think with women, I know it's really connected to hormones too. We were actually talking about this earlier, like MTFHR and like estrogen, if your body's not getting estrogen out. If women are not having consistent bowel movements, they're not getting all their estrogen out every day. And that can be a really big concern with cancer, breast cancer. Right. Yeah, absolutely. And cancer is on the rise.

Like, it's not going, it's not lowering. Isn't that crazy? Courtney, it's just like, I can't believe it. And also autoimmune's on the rise. And like, you know, it's just so frustrating to like not see things get better with all of the inroads that we've made and what we know, you know, with food and supplements and just, you know, a more healthy lifestyle. So.

Yeah, I know. It's really upsetting. I have days where most of the time I'm really positive about all of this. And my general outlook is I feel very positive about it for the most part. But I have my days where I just get so frustrated because I look at the state of our society and we know that only about 8% of our population is metabolically healthy right now. And then we look at cancer rates rising,

and I want to talk about that too because you have a history of that. And we see just that our population is really unhealthy right now, and then we look at the state of our food system, and a lot of it feels like it's almost like not fixable, but I know that it is. It's so frustrating because the tiniest little things need to be fixed, but they're really big ones, and a lot of them are intertwined with, you know, government regulations and our food and medical systems.

So it does really feel daunting. How do you feel about it? It does. I mean, that is a whole other podcast, honestly. That's right. We could do a cancer podcast. We could do the, you know, food system podcast and also the medical community. Because, you know, the medical community really doesn't want us to be healthy.

You know, there's so many like great peptides out there that are helping people. You know, like we said, you know, NAD or exosomes are just, you know, great modalities that are really on the rise. But the medical community is not really loving that because it is going to, it could fix some things. I mean, you know, we could talk about Ozempic just for a second. I mean, I'm, you know, of course, not a fan of heavy doses of Ozempic. I don't mind clients doing like really small dosages if they need it. And because it's a peptide, you know, and so it can be really beneficial, can be beneficial for cancer, and obesity and metabolic health, right? So, you know, we've just taken to a whole nother level, but there are a lot of opportunities out there to use some of these things that are coming on the market that will get us healthy, but the medical community is just not loving that because

there's big business in, you business in radiation, chemo, cancer, drugs. So it's frustrating. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, the system, whether we like it or not, is set up to where the more unhealthy you are, the more money they make off of you. It just is reality. I know. I watched a video of this doctor.

He was a pediatrician. He was talking about this, and he said that the more unhealthy patients are in the medical community, the CEOs make more money off of that. Absolutely. Yeah. And the drug companies, you know, I know, I know it's so frustrating. So it's why it's on us. It's all on us. Nobody's coming to save us. Right. It's on us to arm ourselves with the right information, also to arm ourselves with the right food, take care of our sleep, take care of our health. And so that's why I brought you on today because you are so good at giving advice around this. So let's talk about your- I'm a little obsessed. I mean, but the thing is, is you actually, you really do walk the walk. Like I'm sitting here in front of you right now and I wish everybody could see how much you're

glowing. Thank you. Yeah, you can tell, Like you really do take care of your health and you can really tell it shows. I just, I never was healthy growing up as a kid in a nutshell. So I had a low white blood cell count when I was born. And those days, you know, being 64, they don't, they didn't know what to do about that. They just were like, get to bed earlier. That was it. No vitamin D, you know, not even get out in the sun kind of thing, or vitamin C or any of that was happening. Also, food was a little, it was a little healthier, but we still were having

Cokes and sugar and, you know, things that weren't so healthy. But so it kind of accumulated into years of stress and years of not eating well and not feeling well, and then getting diagnosed with cancer. So that was like a huge wake-up call at 32 years old, just like, holy crap, what I'm doing to my body mentally and physically is not working. So it was a very scary thing to go through, but also it was very eye-opening, And it just really changed my life in that regard. I mean, I love the fact that I was able to have an early diagnosis of it and then also sort of regain control of my health. So I didn't do what the doctor said. They wanted me to do chemo, radiation. It was a stage one. And I'll just tell you one doctor who was amazing at St. John's in

LA. He was a radiologist and I had gone to him reluctantly because I'd seen so many doctors. And he said to me, sat me down, he goes, are you happy? Do you love your life? Are you happily married? Do you love your job? You know, what's going on in your world? Like, do you love yourself? And I was like, oh my God, who says, who asked those questions? Especially that long ago, because how long ago is that? 30 years. It was 32 years ago. That's really wild.

He was crazy instrumental in me getting my emotional well-being under control and really diving into that. And then as we know now, you know, fast forward, that is really a very big piece of the puzzle. Yeah. So I want to talk about, so, okay, do you feel like, do you have any feeling as to what maybe caused it? Like, I know that's kind of a crazy question, but. No, it's not. It's not.

Because, I mean, we all kind of, we have intuition. So I wish I followed my intuition a little better in my early years, as we all wish we did, right? But I was so stressed. And I had two parents who were very type A and very successful. So I felt like as I was growing up, I couldn't keep up with them. And it was a little bit bizarre to have parents that were like, I think 20, at least 20 years older than me, like basically running circles around me. And then I also had digestive issues, didn't feel good, you know, was tired all the time. And I'm like, how am I ever going to be successful? And I followed, you know, watch them. And I wanted to be like them because I loved what they were doing in the world.

And like, it was really a beautiful life that they had created for us. But I always felt behind the eight ball. Emotionally, I'm like, I'm not good enough. I can't keep up. And then I would just, you know, also with the diet, just a lot of sugar, a lot of caffeine, so I'd get my energy levels up. And then I was grew up in Arizona, moved to New York and was in the advertising business. And again, was just on a rat race. You know, it was all about making money, you know, being successful, raising, you know, climbing the corporate ladder. So I had no exhale. I had no, you know, meditation practice. I had no like feeling of like, what does Alyssa want? It was just about following in their footsteps. So I feel like the stress just killed me. And when I was diagnosed, that just, that is when it stopped. And then I was able to like, you know, regroup. But,

and also it was those days that we were eating the snack wells. And remember that? The fat-free? Oh, I very much remember that. And the no sugar cookies. And we're just downing that crap, the thinking it was okay. And also my husband at the time was on the Atkins diet. I remember that one too. The combination of all that, I'm just like, holy crap, how did I make it through? And I was sick all the time. So I was taking antibiotics all the time.

I had allergies. I had digestive issues. So I was taking stuff to help myself go to the bathroom that wasn't healthy. So I was taking a lot of crappy stuff, eating crappy and emotionally I was very unstable. Oh, which I want to talk about the emotional piece in a second, but I do want to dive into the diet for a second. So I'm curious, um, how, at what point were you able to figure out that diet played such a huge role? Was this something immediately when you got diagnosed, you're like, Oh, I gotta change my diet? Or did it happen over time? I did get lucky because my mom used to go

to a place called Rancho La Puerta. Have you heard of that in Tecate, Mexico? I don't think so. I know. I can't believe, it's a health ranch. It's still around. It's been around since like the 60s. It was part of the Golden Door. You've probably heard of the Golden Door,

like in Escondido or, yeah. So they were owned by the same people. But she had asthma. So she would go twice a year with about 20 women. And when I was a teenager, I used to go with her. And all the food, it was plant-based, and all the food was grown on property. Plus you exercised, you were mandatory massage, mandatory in bed, like, you know, nine o'clock or whatever. I mean, it was crazy.

And yoga, meditation, it was way ahead of its time. So I watched these women transform in seven days. They were there for seven days and no phone either because like that, of course, there was no cell phones then, but they transformed in seven days. And I think I sort of had that in my head, like, wow, you could get better with healthy food and really good food. So I did at the time, I just moved from New York to LA. So it was Mrs. Gooch's. So that was kind of cool because there wasn't anything like that in New York.

And there was a juice place called, what was it? It was on Beverly, that juice place that's been around forever. Is it still there now? It's still there now. It's been around forever. And I walked there and juiced every day. I became plant-based and then started going to see an acupuncturist, did yoga, did, like I actually went to a naturopath, so did all the things that LA had to offer, which was beautiful because New York really was behind LA in that regard. So the food was really important. I think it really saved me when I became plant-based.

I didn't stay there because I felt very weak on the plant. I didn't know how to get enough protein, enough substance with it, but it did help me through the process. Yeah, I was going to ask you, what do you think about plant-based diets? I guess more specifically when you think about from a cancer perspective because I'm curious. I was plant-based for like five years. I was vegetarian, basically vegan

because I didn't really do dairy or anything either. And I came out of that like, I was very sick. I had hormonal cystic acne everywhere. I had gained like 20, 30 pounds, something like that. And I just was so fatigued all the time. Like I felt very weak. And I started towards the end of it having dreams about meat. And so I started eating meat again

because I was just like, my body is telling me I need this. But I'm curious from a cancer perspective. Yeah. So I know they tell you to go, in those days too, they said to go plant-based, you know, and really meat was bad. I just think that nowadays I really do teach my cancer clients to be plant forward, but I probably teach everyone to be plant forward. And I am an animal protein eater. I'm an O blood type. And I think the same thing, I was very weak. And also I started eating meat and I perked right up like the first little piece of meat I had, you know, but I feel like, you know, in those days it wasn't like hormone free. It wasn't clean either. So nowadays, since we have those options, I think that we still need, I think we need the

protein. It really is important to get those amino acids, you know, those like complete amino acids to like heal our gut, to rebuild muscle and skeletal muscle is really important for actually being healthy and strong. So I just, I'm not like, if someone can do it right, the vegan vegetarian world, it's hard to do right. And to get enough of what you need, I think. I totally agree. Yeah, I totally agree. I don't think it's impossible, but I do think it makes it a lot harder. Yeah.

Yeah. I just think and also as you age, you need more amino acids, you need more muscle. You need, yeah, you need more protein. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of people don't talk enough about this too, but most people are not getting their genes tested. There's a lot of people that have various genetic snips or mutations that their body may not be able to assimilate certain vitamins

from plant-based foods, and they have to get it from meat. And so there's some people walking around maybe on a plant-based diet like, why don't I feel good and why why do I, you know, feel lethargic all the time? Because their body's not actually getting the vitamins and minerals that it needs. No, no. And I feel like, you know, nowadays I feel like when I talk to people, it's more about people, it's, there's a big animal protein, you know, like push right now. There's like a movement happening right now. Right. I know. I know. So

it's like, and I feel like people eat that. They just don't focus on the veggies though. I feel like most clients, you know, don't focus on, am I getting eight to 10 cups of veggies is what I'd like to see. And that's why I love your, you know, your green juice or I'm a green juicer and I have been for 30 years. I mean, I get like four to five cups of greens in my juice. So that helps a lot. But I just feel like, you know, there has to be some balance. And also I think the fiber helps push the animal protein through your colon, your small intestine.

I mean, I don't know if you know this, but it takes about 14 hours for cow dairy and animal protein to go through your small intestine and 90 minutes for plant-based. So it's like so crazy. I mean, and we do eat a lot. We have protein sometimes for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and sometimes that just gets kind of stuck in there and fermented and just doesn't go through, which is a problem. And if we're not eating enough fiber and not having enough vegetables, it can be an issue too. If you're the opposite of eating too much animal protein. I just think they're too much of anything as you probably believe as well.

Too much coffee, too much soy, too much sugar, too much gluten, too much animal protein, I think can be a problem. I totally agree. And I think you're right. I do think, I think the pendulum is just swinging really far to one side right now because like the plant, I feel like the plant-based movement really held strong in the health world for a long time. And so I think everybody's really excited about meat coming back on their plates, I guess, and it's maybe swung a little too far the other direction. I do think it's going to even out. I mean, I will tell you, I even had a realization recently because I just ordered one of your cleanses just because I'm really focusing on just trying to be, you know, really trying to really be on my nutrition game right now and just really having nutrient dense foods. And so I ordered your cleanse just to have as like meals. And I was like adding, you know, protein stuff to it as well.

And I had a realization halfway through where I was like, wow, I don't know the last time I've eaten this many vegetables every single day. I was like, mind blown. Dr. I know. That's what I love, to be able to teach people. I mean, it's hard for them to continue that. I try to get them to get that in their system and crave it. And I have now a lot of men that are doing the cleanse and adding animal protein. We're adding animal protein for them, actually. Yeah, but it just and also is incredible. So it just is fun to be able to like, really get the nutrients into them at a cellular level, because it's so easy to digest this stuff. Yeah, you know, and metabolize it. Yeah. So I mean,

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like baked goods and things that we're eating, I think is really raising our blood sugar, is doing a number on insulin. You know, it's doing a number on our liver. So I think that it can feed cancer, but I don't think it's the only thing. I think there has to be a series of things that I feel, you know, we talked earlier about maybe heavy metals. I test all my clients' blood work now. I do full panel blood work. I got trained in functional medicine and I can't tell you how much fun it is to see exactly what's going on in their body. Heavy metals are too high. Their blood sugar isn't pre-diabetic, but it's close. Insulin is too high. You know, just a lot of these things that vitamin D is seriously low, you know, and it's just like sometimes, you know, with hormones

too, like we were talking a little bit, I mean, hormones aren't being detoxed. Estradiol is too high or they're not balanced. And CRP, which is that systemic inflammation. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, it's high. Every one of my clients who tests high for that does end up with cancer. Wow. It's wild.

Yeah. A couple of them, now I'm pushing everybody that has a high CRP to go get further testing. So two of my ladies who had a seven and an eight, and I think you're supposed to be below 1.0, but had breast cancer. Wow. I know. And I wonder what that is.

I mean, obviously we know inflammation. So CRP, for people that don't know, that essentially tells you how inflamed your body is. And doesn't it, it kind of means that it's maybe been inflamed for a little while too, right? Yes, yeah. Okay. Yeah, over time.

Yeah, and so when we know inflammation, if it's acute, it's actually really good for the body because then it creates, you know, a healing process essentially. But if somebody is dealing with chronic inflammation, which a lot of people are now based on, you know, their diets and everything else that we were kind of talking about earlier, if your body is in a constant state of inflammation, then it's essentially sending all of its resources to try to fix that while other things kind of go at bay. And I think that's maybe what's happening with cancer peace. Yeah, absolutely. And the guts, you know, guts are unhealthy, really unhealthy. I mean, like people aren't realizing just, you know, how little microbiome

they have, how little hydrochloric acid or enzymes they have to even break down their food or, or to protect anything from getting into their intestines where there's, where it shouldn't be. And also there's just so many pathogens in there, viral fungal, you know, just bacteria. You go out of the country and go to Mexico and, you know, come back with a bacteria infection and it just kind of lingers there forever. Or as we talked about, you get mono or you had chicken pox or strep throat or some things that were shingles that are Epstein-Barr related. I had all of those when I was younger, all. And I think that attributed to my cancer a bit. So basically, those things

lay dormant. And then when inflammation starts to like rise, and stress and no sleep and, you know, bad eating, then you're really kind of get into trouble. Yeah, it's just starting to stack up on top of each other. Well, I found out something recently that there's a and you and I talked about this earlier before we started filming, that there's a connection with B-glucuronidase or beta-glucuronidase and breast cancer. And I was getting a, I got a GI map done a couple months ago. And for people listening that don't know what that is, essentially it's a stool test. And then they test for different bacteria, pathogens, everything that's happening in your gut. And mine was a wreck. And I actually talked about it on my stories one day

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Thank you. But, you know, it just goes to show that, I mean, there's so many different things that could be happening. I mean, I went to Mexico two times last year, and I attribute it to probably that. And I got sick both times and then probably just never, like, fully got it taken care of. But it's just a really good reminder for people listening to, yeah, if you're having any sort of, like, gut issues, anything like that,, like have your doctor order a GI map test and just make sure that you're free of all that. Because it's not, I think it, I think people hear like, oh my God, you would staph in your

gut. Like they just, you know, they freak out and he gets the end of the world. It's more just something you need to know so you can take care of it and get rid of it. You know? Were you having digestive issues? That's the crazy thing. You weren't.

I wasn't bloating. I wasn't like, I don't really know. It's crazy. I wasn't having any issues really. So I wasn't either last fall. And I did go to Mexico and got sick as well. But I did a GI map with my naturopath. And I came back with high, high levels of candida.

And I had no, I don't feel like I have any symptoms. That's what is kind of wild. You know, she's like, oh my God, I've never seen levels of candida like this. And I don't feel like I have any symptoms. That's what is kind of wild. She's like, oh my God, I've never seen levels of candida like this. And I don't even eat sugar. I don't eat sugar. And I also am so, I take probiotics. I know how to lower my pathogen loads. I really try to digest my food.

I mean, I do a lot of things as you do to really stay healthy. But I know it could have been there, she said, for a very long time. I just never really, we never really attacked it, you know, and got rid of it. So I also had high levels of arsenic, which was wild. Oh, wait, let's talk about arsenic. That's another cancer connection. Totally. She was very worried. So I think it came from my water. It did come from my water. So I had a reverse osmosis machine in a little sink in the kitchen and I was using that water for my coffee and tea

every day. And we tested it and it had high levels of arsenic. So my reverse osmosis wasn't really working and had it replaced. And then I started to double filtrate my water, and then it did go down. So I also did ultra binders. I love Quicksilver's ultra binders, so I did that for about six months as well. And you were able to bring it down? Mm-hmm. Okay.

Another interesting one, I did a video about this one time, and everybody was like, what? In rice, they find arsenic in really high levels of rice. Yes, in chicken. Oh, in chicken, too. Chicken and rice are big ones. I know. So I always tell people to buy Lundberg because they test their rice.

I don't know if any other rice companies do, if you know. I don't know, but I did hear that about Lundberg. Yeah. I also, too, was told white rice is actually better because brown rice holds on to the arsenic more. That's true. And actually, just overall, white rice is, I mean, I think it tastes better and it's actually like better for you. Yeah.

I know. Easier to digest. Right, it's easier to digest, true. But also mercury too with the fish, and mercury fillings, if people have had fillings for years and they're starting to leak and they haven't really replaced them,

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Well, actually, and I have a guy in LA too that does Eboo, which is like a step higher. Yeah. I actually watched somebody get it done recently. Admittedly, I'm so freaked out by needles and blood. I was like freaking out the whole time. But it was very cool to see the process because they put a needle in both arms. Yeah. And I was seeing the blood come out and go through the machine.

And it was this really dark red. Yes. And it was coming back in. Bright. It was bright red. Yeah yeah it was very cool i know well when they do the ozone too i could see what's going out and in as well yeah so i mean it's goes out dark you're right and goes back in bright and then they also use an ultraviolet light to like clean up clean it up yeah yeah and i've been hearing that this is a really good thing to do for cancer too because if you have any circulating tumors,

it can kill them off. Absolutely. Wow. Absolutely, I know. And it's not really out there as much as it should be. I know. You know, I really do think

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Right, exactly. So is there a specific diet for cancer that you put your patients on? You know, my cancer people, what I'd love to do is I definitely take them off of like inflammatory foods, the gluten, the dairy, the added sugars, you know, the bad seed oils, omega-6s. I just try to clean up their diet as much as possible in that regard. And then I do always try to get them to be juicing at least once a day, either juicing in a juicer or like we were talking earlier about throwing greens into a blender just to get those nutrients and get them hydrated, you know, with the minerals. I also do give them a mineral powder that they put in their water, just also to stay ultra hydrated. Because also going through treatment is really dehydrating and really does take a toll. I mean, I love foods that are just

easy to digest. So we do a lot of juices or smoothies and we do a lot of, I would say, soups and bone broth. I love, love bone broth. Like real bone broth. And I love soup because soup is nourishing and nurturing. And they definitely are eating animal protein and probably having some sweets, you know, because you have to, you can't live, can't be 100%. But just that in itself has been game changing. And also emotionally, just like trying to find out, like, do they feel like they can heal from cancer? Do they want to heal from cancer? Also, I ask all my clients, do you love yourself? And I would say 90% of them say no. I know. It's like, I love my kids. I love my husband. I love my friends, but I don't really love me. I'm like, oh my God,

that is so huge. That is one of the biggest parts, I think. Yes. Yeah. I feel like I only started loving myself probably four or five years ago. I had to do plant medicine to get to that place. And then once I did, all my health stuff changed. Really? In what way? Everything chilled out. Like I had celiac. I was dealing with the hypo, Hashimoto's.

I had anxiety. I had insomnia. I'm trying to think of like, I feel like I had everything. I also had some like ringing in my ears. And, you know, I just feel like after I started really seeing how what my subconscious was doing to myself in terms of how hard I was on myself and how scared I was of getting another illness. So I my husband passed away from cancer at 45. So I had the cancer, then he died. And I'm like, oh my God, if the girls, I have two girls, if they're left with no parents, that was a huge fear factor that was living in my subconscious.

So I had to like really go in and dig deep to see what was stopping me from really, you know, getting that XL we were talking about earlier, really loving myself and really honoring me first. So I was taking care of everybody else, all my clients, you know, all my family. And I wasn't really doing as well. And so I, as well as I wanted to, you know, I really wanted to get to a place where I was really thriving so I could be a real spokesperson for people out there. And it took that to really get there. Well, I'm so glad that you had that experience. I also have had a couple of really amazing experiences

with psilocybin. And I've talked a lot about them on the podcast, so I don't have to go into it. But that's really cool. And hopefully that will inspire some people to do it. And if there's anybody listening that's too scared to maybe start out there, I think there's another program that's really amazing for learning how to love yourself. Are you familiar with Lacey Phillips and her work to be magnetic?

I think what she does is really powerful. And I think the meditations that she puts people through are pretty similar to like the journeys that you go on with psilocybin. Absolutely. Because she also really helps you dive in there and see what's happening in your subconscious. She also helps you see what happened in the past. Yeah. And you almost like rewire those thoughts and you come back to this place of just like compassion and kindness and love for yourself.

Because I think a lot of it is like compassion and kindness for yourself. Totally. And I think maybe too, that there's this piece of like what you said, where a lot of your clients will say like, oh, I love my husband. I love my kids. It's almost like people have this feeling of like, oh, it's like conceited or something for me to like love myself. Self-absorbed, selfish. Exactly. Which is so funny that that's a thought. That's how we were raised. Yeah. Sad. I know. Cause you can do it. You're not going to be able, as we all say, you know, you're not going to be able to take care of your family unless you feel the best you do. So I know when I started feeling the best, my, everything changed in my family, you know, relationships and just everybody could exhale. I think they could see that, oh, she's going to be okay.

Like, she's got it together. And it was really beautiful. But Lacey's a dreamboat in what she does. And also breathwork. I mean, I love Gwen Dittmar, who I don't know if you know who she is, but she does breathwork, and breathwork is another. It's like going on a journey sometimes when you do a breathwork course or class

or, you know, in person, I find those like incredible. So yeah, we need, we need all of that. Yeah. We do. Especially with what's going on in the world. Oh, I mean, 100%. Right. We all need more of, yes.

Yeah, there's just so much going on right now. It's like we need to check out of some of that, you know? Yeah, just add more love much going on right now. It's like we need to check out of some of that, you know, and come back to our humanity. And add more, you know, relaxation and just add more faith that everything is going to turn out okay. Yeah. Well, and it's interesting, too, that I'm glad you brought up the emotional side of things. And also, you said something that reminded me when I was in school and I was getting my weren't fully physically like there. Their outcomes were so much better than the people that were just wallowing and thinking, I'm going to die or like stressing out, living in fear, living anxiety.

It's crazy that we have studies in the science to back up this. I mean, Radical Remission, that book by Kelly Turner. I keep hearing about this book. Radical Hope, Radical Remission, two of my favorite books. It's all about that. Stage four cancer, healing holistically without chemo and radiation because of the mindset. Seven out of her 10 modalities are mindset related and stress. So I know we have all this research and it's really crazy. I mean, I feel like that was the story with my cancer and my husband's cancer, because I believed I was going to get past it. And it was a learning experience. And I needed to like go through that. His dad died of cancer

when he was two of melanoma. And when he went into the cancer mode, I think he just thought he was not going to make it. The fear that he lived with and what he ended up, you know, doing with the medical community, he did two bone marrow transplants in a year and a half, which is really, really crazy. I mean, one is enough to do and really take you out. But two was crazy. And so he died of fungal pneumonia. So he didn't die from cancer, but from his immune system being compromised. But he was living in fear, and he didn't think he was gonna make it. So I feel like mentally that was huge.

Yeah, I think it's a really big piece of it. Wow. And I don't think cancer should scare us. Yeah. We shouldn't be scared of cancer. We have cancer cells in our body. We all do. Microscopic cancer cells, like all of the pathogen loads we have in our body and the toxins, you know? So we actually walk it around like that.

So, I mean, it's not here, but the medical community scares us. But it's really not something to be afraid of because we can do something about it, you know? Yeah, there's so much that we know now. And everything that we just talked about in this entire episode, you know, there's so much we can do with diet and lifestyle. And I mean, a lot of that is, I mean, that's all of it. Yeah, right. That's all of it.

I know. You know? Right. And people always say to me, like, well, I can't afford an Erewhon or, you know, can't afford a juice or a smoothie or just a lot of these things. And it's a little bit dumbfounding to me because there are farmer's markets all over the country. To be able to go to a farmer's market, there are stores where there are real vegetables,

right? There are also frozen vegetables that aren't expensive, which are nutrient-dense, that are very easy to buy and cook. There are options out there for people to grab these nutrients and to get more nutrient-dense food. But I just think that they don't have the time, they don't have the energy, and they're just also not educated to the same degree.

But it is very sad because I think it is like the things we talked about, like sleep or hydration or just getting out and walking and getting exercise in or meditating. They're all free. Exactly. They don't cost anything. Exactly. And we all have to eat. We all have to spend money on our food. It's all about where you decide to choose or where you choose to put your money. And look, I don't want to be insensitive

to people that I know that food deserts exist. I know people are really strapped for cash. But at the end of the day, I think a lot of it is a lack of education too, because I watch these videos. There's this one woman in particular that I'm thinking of that the day, I think a lot of it is a lack of education too. Because I watch these videos. There's this one woman in particular that I'm thinking of that every day she builds out a lunch for her husband. And she's like, I'm a middle class mom. Make lunch for my husband today or whatever. 98% of what she throws in that bag is packaged processed food. And I'm thinking in my head, I'm adding up all of this. And then everybody's finding the comments saying like, well, this is all they have the budget and, you know, access for.

And I'm like, I could make him an amazing, super like nutrient dense, like really delicious meal for like $10. And she just spent like $30 on all this processed packaged stuff. Yeah, I know. Very true. Very touche. And it makes me so sad because like, especially when we look at, you know, rates of cancer skyrocketing and everything else. And I'm just like, for some reason,

well, it's backed by these multi-million dollar advertising budgets from these big food corporations. Right. But people are getting this narrative that buying these packaged foods is cheaper. Yeah. And I don't know like how we're falling for it. Right. I know. I know. And also it has a longer shelf life. So that's a problem too.

Yeah. So that's not good. We don't want a longer shelf life, but you know, people are like, you know, stocking up and, and, and being able to have these foods on their shelf for a long period of time. So they don't have to like go to the grocery store and worry about it, but it is doing a disservice. I mean, it's sad because we both know how good you can feel with your life and as you age. And I have a second book coming out called Pro Aging Hacks. And so it's just about like, I want to age and feel great. I don't want to feel like, oh, I got the hormone issues or got the weight around the middle or, you know, I can't sleep or have no energy or all the aches and pains. Like, that is not what I want for my life and for my future. You know, like, I mean, I'm sure I have

20, 25 years to live. So I just want to live it in the best way possible. And these years as we age, we have so much wisdom. You know, maybe we have a little more income when we could travel and we could do more things. But I just think that, you know, it's so important to like feel great and also to transfer that to your kids and to transfer to your grandkids. I mean, I think it's just a huge gift. Yeah. Well, and also, and I was just going to say, you're a mom. I mean, I think it's just a huge gift. Yeah. Well, and also, and I was just going to say, you're a mom. You want to be around a long time for your kids and not only be around for them, but you want to have the energy to do things with them.

And hopefully maybe if they have grandkids, you want to have the energy to be there for their grandkids. I talk about this all the time. I'm so grateful that my parents are in good health because, I mean, we still ski together. We still go for hikes. I'm so grateful that they still have the energy to do that and hang out with me in that way. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's, you know, that's what it's all about. It's all about. Right. I definitely I just and also I don't want to be in it. I mean, I've already been scared out of the medical community because of my cancer and my husband's. And living in hospitals and living at doctor's offices is no fun at all.

So, I mean, I feel like if I step foot in another hospital, unless it's for having a baby, not me but my daughter, but, you know, it's like that's going to be too soon. So it's just not someplace that is conducive to healing or, you know, just nurturing at all. It's just a scary place, and I don't want that for anyone. We've also been lied to just that if you are lower energy, start having these health issues when you're in your 60s and 70s,

like, oh, that's just aging. Yeah, it's not. It's not. It's not. Yeah. There's little bits and pieces of that. But if you actually take care of your body, you can do really well and have energy well into your 80s and 90s. Yeah.

It's all about how you take care of yourself. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And really honoring you first, you know, like not in a selfish way, but in a, you know, just substantive way. Like, you know, it's really self-preservation, I would say. Yes. Yeah. I love that. Well, I'm trying to think of what else. Is there anything else that we didn't cover that you feel like is really important for people to hear? I know we

did cover a lot. I know. I love it. We went through all my questions. I know. I think what we touched on a little bit is, like I was saying, that I do blood work on my clients. And that's been the funnest thing that I have done in a long time because it's very cost effective. I'm associated with Rupa in San Francisco. And I can get a full blood panel, all the hormones, you know, all the metabolic markers. Also find out what's, you know, systemic inflammatory markers, everything. Heavy metals, everything for like $260. Like it's crazy inexpensive. And so I have had so much fun being able to like really dive in with the clients and like also with menopause.

So that's a big one. So I have a lot of women that are going into menopause or in menopause, you know, and we are testing their pregnenolone and DHEA, which is our two hormones that come out of your adrenals. And basically they help support your endocrine system. They help support your thyroid, your adrenals, your estradiol your endocrine system they help support your thyroid your adrenals your estradiol testosterone and progesterone so it's really beautiful there's supplements for that so there's a lot of also beautiful supplements out there on the market that we didn't talk about but basically like i have had so much fun putting women on some unless there's an issue with any kind of breast cancer or any kind of estrogen-based cancer in their family or if they've had it.

But I put them on that to actually have smooth sailing going into menopause because it actually helps boost their own hormones. And same with vitamin D. Vitamin D is there's a vitamin D cell receptor in every cell in our body. So if your vitamin D isn't over 50, your cognitive function isn't going to be like firing at all cylinders. And also we really need to be 60 to 80. So there's a lot of markers that are happening with blood work that should be looked at in an optimal way instead of just in a standard way. So that to me has been life

changing for so many clients and lowering people's blood sugar like five four is too high. You know, it should be below 5.0. So it's, it's really fun. That's, that's been like, I'm glad I'm like ventured into that world as well as feeding people. I know. I want to actually eventually do that too. I have my Master's of Science in Nutrition and I need to – there was a certification that I was going to get done years ago and then I went a different route just because of my career. Yeah. But I want to eventually do that too.

Blood work is one of my favorite things ever to look at. I look at all my friends send me their blood work just because I took a couple classes on it and I just nerd out on it so much because it can tell you so much. It can. It tells you everything. Yeah. And the GI maps too. I think the GI maps are really important. I love those too. Not enough doctors do those for clients. And doing a full thorough blood panel once a year is just like life changing. And also a nutrient deficiency test. You know, just seeing what nutrients you're deficient in because clients come to me and they're like, hey, you were talking about this supplement, this supplement. And they have this whole bag of supplements that they've gotten off Instagram and TikTok.

And I'm like, you don't need that. And that's actually, that's not a very good one. And it doesn't, also, they don't have enough of what they need to. They're taking curcumin, but they're taking 500 milligrams or, you know, they're taking omcumin, but they're taking 500 milligrams or they're taking omegas, but they're taking like low dosages of them. So it's really important to know that certain dosages to actually even get a benefit or it's a waste kind of. It's also a waste if they're just taking them off of like Instagram and TikTok

and their body doesn't actually need it. Yeah, Which is interesting because I used to do the same thing where I would just like take all the supplements that I read about that I thought that I needed. And then when I started doing blood work, my doctor was like, okay, you do not need all this. Like just what you just said and was like, you're actually really low on this. We need to put you on that. And now I feel like my supplements are really dialed in specifically based off of what is going on in my body. And that's why blood work is so important. Yeah, yeah.

And it's life-changing when you just do a few supplements and see what you're deficient in. Yeah. Okay, so I want to ask you one more question, which is what I ask all my guests at the end. This is just a personal one, and I'm very excited to hear what your answer is. So what are your health non-negotiables? These are things that no matter what, no matter how crazy your day is, that you prioritize for yourself and for your health. I would say sleep is crucial. So I wear an Oura ring and sometimes I hate it, as you probably do too, because when the score isn't good, my next day is a total disaster.

But I try to achieve 90s, which I'm not saying everyone's going to be able to do that. But sleep is a non negotiable. Also hydration. So I have this powder that I love. It does have a few fillers, which is not great, but Ultramel Replenisher. And so I just diluted in 32 ounces, and I get like 96 to 100 ounces a day. So it is life changing like in that regard. So that's non-negotiable. I would probably say my green juice is, you know, another one.

Like just I just I'm obsessed with like how it makes me feel. And I just think it's great for my skin. And I do have to meditate every day just for a few minutes to get, there's so many non-negotiables, to get myself back in my body because I'm so type A. I'm an Aries and I easily can get out of body and be like floating on the top of the ceiling, you know? So it's like I have to like really calm myself down. And, you know, that morning sun has become a big one too.

But I don't always get that. But those other ones are really non-negotiables. I love that. My boyfriend's an Aries, so I love Aries. I do too. Big fan over here. Yeah. And actually that Ultima Replenisher, my mom drinks that. I always drink that when I go

to her house and tell her I love it. I love it too. Cool. Well, please let everyone listening know where they can find you, where they can find your book and everything. Okay. So I am on Instagram and on Google as Alyssa Goodman.

And every week I do a newsletter talking about a health tip and a new recipe. And of course, I have the cleanses here in LA. We have a new one coming out. There's four now. So a gut, a regular three-day and a whole digestive reset, which is mostly liquids with a little chia pudding. So it's a three-day to really empty out everything. And I ship my gondola, my bars across the country. And I would say my book is on Amazon. And so hopefully the next one will be out sooner than later. So yeah, thank you.

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