Realfoodology - Everything You Need to Know About Cancer with Dr. Connealy

Episode Date: February 9, 2022

80: On this episode I meet with Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy M.D. who is the Medical Director at Cancer Center for Healing and Center for New Medicine.  She is also the author of "The Cancer Revolution."  In this episode we talk about the importance of preventative care in regards to cancer, how people end up with cancer, how to prevent cancer, epi-genetics, why she believes cancer is on the rise, mammograms and so much more.   Check Out Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy: https://www.instagram.com/connealymd/ https://www.cfnmedicine.com/ https://linktr.ee/connealymd

On today's episode of The Real Foodology Podcast. And people need to understand that cancer really is a 10-year disease. So from one little cancer cell to tumor formation is 10 years. So that means you have like all these years of opportunity to prevent cancer and understand what's going on in the body. Hello, welcome back to another episode of the Real Foodology Podcast. I am your host, Courtney Swan, and I'm so happy you're here. Today's episode is one that I've been wanting to do for a while. It's all about cancer, cancer prevention, what we believe causes cancer,

and so much more. On today's episode, I speak with Dr. Leigh Erin Kinneally. She's an MD. She's also the medical director at Cancer Center for Healing and Center for New Medicine, plus the author of The Cancer Revolution. And you may also recognize her from her Instagram. I'm going to leave a link in the show notes so that you can find her account easily. I first found her because she had done a post about conventional versus integrative cancer approaches. And it really piqued my interest because I feel like, um, there's not a lot of doctors talking about cancer right now from a more integrative, holistic approach. Unfortunately in this country, there is a huge disconnect between our conventional and more holistic, integrative medical approaches to a lot of

things. We are really not practicing preventative care unless if you are seeking out an integrative or a holistic practitioner. So we really dive into the importance of preventative care when it comes to cancer. And we also, you know, she brings up this really great point about how the way that we define health in this country is really skewed. We just assume because someone is young that they're healthy, or we assume that because someone looks healthy that they are healthy, or we assume sometimes if someone says like, oh, I feel totally fine that they are healthy. But, you know, the reality is that unfortunately we live in a time where, um, we need to be careful about the food that we're putting in

our bodies and the products that we're putting on our bodies, the things that we were being exposed to on a daily basis, whether it's in our water or in our body care, um, our makeup, et cetera. So anyways, we dive into everything cancer related. Um, she gives a lot of amazing tips on how to prevent cancer, things that she has seen in her own practice that really help. We talk about epigenetics and the role that they play in cancer, why she believes that cancer is on the rise, how she feels about mammograms and what some alternatives are to mammograms and so much more. With that, let's just get into the episode.

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The Center for New Medicine does everything from human optimization to prevention and chronic diseases. And then the Cancer Center for Healing are for patients that have most likely been diagnosed with cancer and they're here for a long-term visit or a short-term visit. Amazing. So you did a post recently on Instagram that really caught my eye. It was conventional versus integrative cancer approaches. And I would love for you to kind of talk about that a little bit. I feel like everyone knows the conventional approaches to cancer, but what are some of the more integrative approaches that you take or, you know, a holistic approach? Right. So for our listeners, I think we need to define things because I think, you know, in medicine

today, a lot of medicine is a secret and we need to make sure that everyone knows, I think, and this is kind of what these podcasts do, Instagram does, TikTok. They bring life to what's really happening. And health is not something that we work on in our world today, in our country today. It's something that it's supposed to just happen and health just doesn't happen. There is an intention and an execution that needs to take place to be healthy. And just because you feel good every day, let's say you're 25, 30 years of age. Oh, I feel great. You know, how could there be anything wrong? Well, unfortunately that's a fallacy. And unfortunately, in today's world,

you know, cancer is the number one killer, one to 85. And so it doesn't matter, you know, about age anymore. Women, it's one in probably about 41% of females and men, it's one in two men. And so, and there's not a lot of imaging or workup on a person male or female less than 40 there's barely any workup and so and once you get diagnosed with cancer you're in shock and you're absolutely scared to death and you're thinking how could this possibly have happened and people need to understand that cancer really is a 10-year disease. So from one little cancer cell to tumor formation is 10 years. So that means you have like all these years of opportunity to prevent cancer and understand what's going on in the body.

And so I think the first and foremost thing is, like, I remember last year, I told my children, you know, that my number one value was health because we went around the room, asked about what our values were. And, you know, my number one value is health. And it has been for a very long time because I'm a DES baby. And for a lot of people out there, they might not know what DES. DES was a drug given to pregnant women when they started to bleed. And they gave that to pregnant women to prevent miscarriage and stop bleeding. So that drug was given for 42 years to thousands of women. And then when I was about 15 years old, I think my parents received a letter that, oh, you were given that drug. And now there's an increased risk of cancer in both male and female offspring. Also there's hormonal problems, anatomical problems, and all these

problems. So I started going to a cancer hospital when I was very young as a teenager. And so that whole experience changed my trajectory because I wasn't like worried about cancer. I luckily had a scientific brain and I thought, okay, I need to figure out what this is. And then more importantly, how I prevent this occurrence. So I'm 64 now. And so I studied everything on how not to get cancer and how to like, how do you figure out this puzzle and the anatomy of oneself and not just for cancer? Because, you know, cancer is usually not one disease. It's usually many diseases and many different things are occurring for this perfect storm.

And so but it's been my whole life that it's been something in my mind. OK, I've got to deal with this. So, you know, most people don't have to deal with that. You know, most people don't. But if you look at the history of medications, you know, there was thalidomide where the children were born, you know, with, you know, no limbs. And then there's the DES and it was actually used for 42 years, but they knew it was a carcinogen. So unfortunately we have these things that occurred over the last probably 80 to 100 years where we

always learn things after the fact. And so that's why I practice preventive, proactive, precision medicine, because it's like, wait, what am I doing to my patient? I should be saying, what am I doing for my patient to enhance their lives? And so I always, when I take care of a person, I'm very concerned is if I give you this birth control pill, if I give you this statin drug, if I give you this, what consequences is it going to do to you? So I know I'm not getting to the question and I really want to, but I think people need to understand my passion for, you know, what I do now and what the difference is because people, they say, oh, you practice integrative medicine. Well, what is integrative medicine? So integrative medicine is using the

best of conventional therapies and conventional workup. So that might be, you know, a good history, a good physical, a good ordering blood work, doing ultrasounds or scans or whatever you need to do on the patient, doing that good workup. So I'm very thankful that I'm a doctor, that I know how to do that and how to order things. But then what blood tests do I order? So I order very different blood tests because I see patients from all over the world. And most of the patients just basically get a chemistry panel and a CBC. A chemistry panel looks at your electrolytes, your kidney, your liver, and your blood count is your white count, your hemoglobin and all your indices. Well, that's a really small part

of a person. And so like, if you looked at C-reactive protein, which is, you know, a very standard blood test, which is a marker for inflammation, inflammation is the precursor to all diseases. So that should be done on any person, whether you were treating human optimization, prevention of cancer or cancer. So that would be something I would do very differently than a conventional doctor, right? Then I would look at your hemoglobin A1C because we know pre-diabetics and diabetics, you're increased risk for cancer and a lot of other diseases. So of course, I would want your hemoglobin A1C to be more ideal. Then I would look at your vitamin D levels,

vitamin D because vitamin D influences over 3000 genes in your body. And so not just for cancer, but for everything else. I would look at all your hormones. I would look at your thyroid, complete panel of your thyroid, since the thyroid's the battery to your body. So I would be looking just, let's just talk about human optimization, but let's say it came to me for cancer prevention, which is where everybody should be,

not just for cancer, but every disease, because your life will be so much better if you practice that way of life. It just, your life is just a lot better. And then, you know, you want to, you can't manage something you don't measure. Right. So you don't like you look at your bank account on a regular basis because you want to make sure you have enough money to pay your bills. Right. So that's the thing you're doing regularly. We don't even tend to our health, like our bank

account. Right. But that's the biggest problem that we have in this country right is is that we're not paying attention to our health and there's so many things that we can just teach people to do and we can teach doctors to do to get good workups okay and it doesn't have to be a jillion dollar workup because it doesn't need to be that way. But we have to do the workup and verify that someone is okay and they're doing good and they're on the right track. Right. So when a cancer patient comes in here, so conventional cancer patients, the options are surgery, chemo or radiation. And so not everybody needs all three of those. And what do you think about those? Honestly, I would love to know from a more holistic standpoint.

Right. Well, I tell people that tumors are immunosuppressive. So it's probably necessary to remove the tumor. Okay. And then take 10 to the terrain of the body, the garden of the body, the milieu of the body to understand why the perfect storm occurred to create that cancer to begin with. So, so we need to, you know, I tell people, you just don't wake up with cancer one day. Cancer took, you know, like I said, about 10 years to occur. So we want to make sure we've got to unravel it. So let's say you have a little lump in the breast, let's hypothetically say that. And most likely a lumpectomy can be achieved to remove the tumor. But then the doctor, in today's world, that's usually what happens. Oh, you have a little lump. Let's do the mammogram. Let's do the ultrasound.

Let's do an MRI. That's all conventional. And I all agree with all of that. And then I don't even let my patients do a biopsy without preparation. So why? Because a biopsy is an invasion to the body. So I want the patient to be in a cancer fighting stance if they're going to do biopsy. And why is that? Because let's say you have a tumor and you puncture that, you have potentially seeded cancer. I know a lot of doctors disagree.

I've read extensively about this. And I'm not saying that it happens with every patient. It's potentiality of the situation. So why wouldn't we just take things and preparation for the patient? So to eliminate the downside of getting a biopsy. First of all, second of all, biopsies are very scary to the patient. They're very injurious because like who likes to be a patient? I've been a patient before, so I know it's not fun. So we want to make sure

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OK, so it really depends on the situation. Now, if it's something small, I'm all for it. And then if the patient's willing to partner with me and listen to every single thing I say about what they need to do, and I'm seeing them very regularly, and I don't want the situation to get out of control and the patient really, really, really wants to do it, I will support and partnership with them. But usually that require, you know, like fasting is like an excellent form of making a lot of progress in a short period of time. I'm not saying that fasting gets rid of cancer. I'm not saying that because I don't just have the patients fast. So it's not just like, oh, simple little fast and everything's wonderful. No, because, you know, I see patients from all over everywhere, all

different kinds of situations. You have to understand that 50% of my patients are stage four, done everything. So I see that too. And I see the patients who wait and they have wounds this big on their breast or somewhere else because they've let this perpetuate itself. So that's the kind of thing I want to avoid. So they're very big, big situations by the time. And that's so that that's when they decided to go and go to a resort and go to do different things. And I'm like, no, no, no. Always partner with a physician who will partner with you. You have to have a doctor who partners with you because that is part of the emotional psychological healing process. But at the same time, don't endanger yourself that you let this spiral out of control that the situation becomes bigger. And so you have to have someone who's clinically knows this and has life experience to say, oh no, I saw these many patients and this is what happened. And every individual's their own clinical trial. You can't predict what's going to happen to any patient and nobody can. All right. Because every patient's on

their own clinical journey and their own clinical trial. But I am about, I have patients that, you know, let's say you have a 70 year old and they just don't want to do anything. And I go, okay, let's see how you do. If you want to do a fast and you want to go on a fast for 21 days or 28 days, and then we re-ultrasounded in four four weeks, and we see that it decreased, stayed the same. I've had patients do that, okay? They're just resisting any kind of intervention. Now, if you're young, if you're a young person with cancer, usually the younger the patient is, the more aggressive cancer is, and that's because the DNA is replicating fast. So the margin of error is more.

And so my younger patients, less than 50 or 55, I watch them very closely, especially if they're in their 20s or 30s. But 40s, I'm also because I know cancer's aggressive. And so just because of age alone. So, so I want to know, what are your top tips on preventing cancer? And then can we go into what helps people once they do have cancer? And I'm sure it probably is differing depending on what type of cancer they have. But what are some of your like top tips to really like prevent it? Okay. So the top things is, um, verify that your health is okay. Okay. And so what I mean by that is, is partnering

with a physician, maybe a naturopath, you know, probably it needs to be a medical doctor or someone who knows about, let's talk about cancer. I mean, since cancer is, you know, it's the number two killer after heart disease. So it's the kind of thing that we all should be practicing prevention now because of it's just, you know, girl, it's one out of eight women alone have breast cancer. So, and do the blood test. And I just don't do blood tests. Of course I do imaging. I don't do like mammograms. If you're 35 years old, you don't, you're not really eligible for a mammogram. And don't mammograms put us at risk too, because of all of the, well, because of the radiation. So a chest x-ray has one millirad, but a mammogram has 342 Miller rods. So quite a bit of, so quite a bit of difference, right?

So what, so that accumulated radiation is, you know, they say for every 10,000 mammograms, we save one life. So three countries, what, well, that's a great question. So one, the most important thing is doing breast self-exams. Okay. So I would recommend that everybody do a regular once a month, right after their period, do, if you're menstruating to do breast self-exams. Okay. Then I, that, that is how most of the women find their breast cancers they find it themselves okay so i would recommend that um because you know your breast and everybody's anatomy is different but you know your body especially when you do it every you know on a regular basis okay and do it in the laying down and sitting up because you get, you feel things differently. Then for imaging, thermogram, and then there's ultrasound. So thermography is a

vascular image of your breast. So vascularity is, vascularity means that there could potentially be something called angiogenesis, which is development of blood supply. So breasts are typically not vascular, all right? So if you see vascularity of a thermogram, which has actually been around for about 50, 60 years, it's not something new. And so if you see vascularity, that would indicate that you have something going on. All right.

Meaning it may not mean cancer. It could be just an abnormal environment of the breast. Then ultrasound. Ultrasound is a great way to look for lumps and bumps. It's non-invasive. It's very inexpensive. Now, mammogram is one of the things that picks up calcifications, but if you're less than 40, you know, you wouldn't want to start doing radiation exposure,

right? Because, you know, you pay a price for everything that you do that has potential downside. So you want to be very careful about running in and going and doing tons of, you know, different radiological procedures. Yeah, that's really interesting. So I'm so sorry, we got sidetracked. I really would love to hear because, you know, so a lot of my listeners are here because they really are into nutrition and their diets. So I'm sure that they really would love to know kind of what your top tips are on really food, but lifestyle in general, because we do know that cancer is a pretty lifestyle driven disease. So what are your

kind of top tips on how to prevent it? Right. So I would say the probably I won't put them all in a certain order because everything's important. Right. Yeah. And so but I would say that peace of mind is the most important thing that all of us need to get. And we can't always do that for ourself. And the studies that come out about unresolved emotional conflict are just, you know, abounding. I mean, the studies, so many different things. And there's not a conference you don't go to that they don't talk about emotion and stress. And this is nothing that I learned in medical school. And I'll be honest, I did not start learning all about this until about 18 years ago. started studying it and reading it and a doctor mentioned it at a medical cancer conference and and he talked about a German doctor Dr. Hammer Dr. Hammer was an oncologist from Germany

and he started German New Medicine and he was an oncologist who got cancer and then he started asking all of his patients well why do you think you have cancer why do you think why do you think and they all said they related it to some trauma and so then he had asking all of his patients, well, why do you think you have cancer? Why do you think, why do you think? And they all said they related it to some trauma. And so then he had to do personal reflection because he got diagnosed with cancer. Well, his son was tragically killed. And so he got testicular cancer. So he devised this whole system of basically talking patients out of their cancer. And so I took the first, you know, in the United States, it's called recall healing. And I first took the course as a physician, and then I didn't finish continue all the courses, because I said, you got to have someone dedicated just to this.

So and that's what we do. I have someone that's a professional in my office that does that. But I would, because we are, I was, I had a new trainee today and we were talking about this couple came in and the husband has throat cancer. And so he says, gosh, Dr. Kinley, he has changed. His whole life has changed now since he did the emotional work here and so and so the the young people that are trainees in my office they're in their 20s and I said the single greatest thing you guys could do is do emotional attunement because when you were five and three you have no idea what it was like you have no idea you have no recollection okay of what you're maybe you remember a few things going to kindergarten the first day or something but you have no recollection. Okay. Of what your child, maybe you remember a few things going to

kindergarten the first day or something, but you have no idea the record player that your parents put into you. Okay. Yeah. And so we grow up with the, you know, there's a great book called, called your body keeps score, but your body keeps score of all these incidences. And if you had trauma, if you had an unfavorable event, that it might have been resolved, but it might not have been resolved. And so it's something that we all have to practice some mindfulness techniques. Turn every negative into a positive, everything. I tell people your disadvantages become your advantages because you've overcome. And years ago, 20 years ago, I listened to this cassette tape called by Thich Nhat

Hanh, who's a Vietnamese Buddhist and how to turn negative seeds into positive seeds. We can turn everything into a positive. And so being in a state of gratitude on a regular basis and truly, truly coming from love 24 hours, seven days a week. And that is very hard to do. But if we just do that, you're not only going to help someone else, but you're going to, at the end, you're going to help yourself. So I would say like, that's the number one thing to do. And that's not something you kind of just learn overnight and do overnight. It takes, you know, eight weeks for some practice to become a habit. Then I would say keeping your body ideal weight. Okay.

Because we know overweightness or obesity predisposes you to every illness. Okay. The obvious things are not smoke. Okay. Alcohol, you know, a lot of people use alcohol as a therapy and as a drug. And so we know that alcohol increases risk of cancer. And so people need to be mindful of one, you know, if they're going to party, like, why do they need to do that? What lack of meaning in their life are they missing that they need to do that? OK, enjoying a glass of wine is very different than drinking four glasses of wine. And so but alcohol, we know increases cancer. All right.

Then we need to be mindful of our eating. You know, eating is, is, is people don't learn as a child. And like most people grew up, for example, on cereal. Well, cereal is not exactly a health food. All right. And people today still think that if they buy granola or Cheerios or some healthy cereal, that that is healthy. Well, the sugar index of those foods are very, very, very high. And the glyphosate levels as well. Exactly. And so, and just the grains, you know, I mean, it's all kinds of things. So, but really understand the science of food. okay? Know how to read a label, really stick to foods that are one ingredient, okay?

And stick to one ingredient foods that like, you know, are from nature, okay? Because our entire ancestry, if you look over the last hundreds of thousands of years, people were hunter gatherers, all right, until we got into, you know, agricultural farming. And then we got into really processed foods, okay? I personally didn't grow up like that. I grew up in Texas. We had a farm. And so I grew up kind of different than my friends did, okay? So we ate really well because my mom was kind of an extreme

advocate. So I was fortunate. I mean, like we never had cereal. I mean, if we had cereal, boy, we were like, this is great. We're high on life, right? But we didn't have, we didn't grow up in cereal and I have my kids, my kids just, you know, that would never be a breakfast we would ever have. But really understand the science of food. Read different books. Okay. I know like the number one book written is on food. Right. And everybody's got their opinion.

And I believe in there's no one size fits all. But I've never read a book that Oreos are okay. And hamburger helper are okay. And pizza is okay. All right. Like I've never read a book like Oreos are okay and hamburger helper are okay and pizza is okay. All right. Like I've never read a book like that. Okay. Even, you know, really good, you know, like the Italian cooking books or any, any book, there's nothing that says those are okay. So I think I had a patient told me today that she changed her eating. She has a leiomyosarcoma, which is a cancer of the muscle and the special muscle fibers of her uterus.

And she goes, Dr. Neely, I started, I changed my diet to pure vegetarian. Well, pure vegetarian, what does that mean? Because I have people thinking vegetarian tortilla chips are okay. Well, tortilla chips are not good on a vegetarian diet. She went pure vegetarian. She goes, Dr. Keneally, I feel great on this eating program. Her blood work was perfect. Her hemoglobin A1C was perfect. So I go, you know what? That is the real test is how do you feel when you do this eating program? Okay. I always tell people the cardinal rules is get off sugar and get off lots of carbohydrates, you know, off the carbs and off

the couch. And you know, that is really where you've got to start. Okay. And then delve into the eating is what we do every single day of our life. You need to know what you are putting in your body. Every single morsel counts. And food is the information and the coding for your cells to tell your body what to do and how to take care of you. So it's something you need to be very mindful of. And just don't rely on one book, one source. Listen and then go practice. I know that I've done every eating program there is.

From fasting to juicing, to raw food, to vegetarian. There isn't a program that I haven't done. And I always tell people in two weeks, your body tells you, I feel great. All right. Like there's people that do carnivore and they, that's what feels great to them. And I tell people, we are every individual's an original, and you're going to find the eating program that works for you, that you have maximal vitality. Your blood shows that it's good. You feel good. And, you know, your nutritional analysis that you get also tells you it's sufficient.

So eating what? Do you think that people need to eat organic to avoid cancer? Oh, my goodness absolutely you can't eat you must there there are i tell people when it comes to food no shortcuts no shortcuts do not buy things that aren't the real thing they're not you know you need to make sure the ingredients in your food you need to make sure it is organic. There is just absolutely no question the insecticides, pesticides in food today, you know, it's absolutely, you can't cut corners on that. And do you think that's why cancer is on the rise is because we're spraying everything,

we're being exposed to all these toxic chemicals, the plastics in our food? Right. Well, I would say I was reading about childhood cancer and childhood cancer. They say is probably the biggest reason is pollute environmental pollutants. And I would say that for humans today, I would say it's it's stress and environment. OK, we have a lot of stress today and we have a lot of environmental exposure. I mean, so many different from heavy metals to pollutants, like you talked about plastics. Plastics are probably the number one pollutant. You talk about glyphosate from weed killer, that is probably in 95% of people's urine. So you add to the collective concentration of all of these chemicals

and we're all a toxic soup. That's why you need to cleanse on a regular basis because, and you've got to start with avoidance, toxic avoidance in what you're putting in your mouth every day. But we, unfortunately we have to live a life of regular cleansing because that's just the world we've created in this industrial technical world. Yeah. So let's list off some of those. I will say actually right before we recorded, I was doing a lymphatic massage where I sat in a sauna for 20 minutes. And then they put well, before you go in the sauna, they put this magnesium salt base on you and wrap you in this. I don't know what the materials, but basically what it does is it encourages your body to detox and sweat. And then afterwards you get a really deep lymphatic

massage. And I know that's one of the many ways that people can support their detoxification pathways. Right? Well, that's one of the big things that we recommend for our patients. So one of the biggest things that we do is I have them do an Epsom salt, baking soda, and clay bath. All right. If they don't, if that would be, if they don't have a sauna, if they have an infrared sauna, the most, probably most single important investment you can make in your life is infrared sauna. And I personally have had one at the clinic for probably 18, 19 years. So it's not something new. So infrared sauna is probably the single greatest investment you could purchase, you can make in

your health. Okay. So that, and then you talked about lymphatic drainage. You know, lymphatic drainage is actually, there's a study of lymphology. Lymphology is the study of lymph. And so, but medical doctors today forgotten about the lymph system. So all of our patients get lymphatic drainage once a week, not just cancer patients, but other patients too, because what is your lymph system? Your lymph system is your removal of garbage. It's four times greater than your blood circulation. I tell people the circulation delivers the groceries, the lamp removes the garbage. So that's a standard treatment here at the clinic that we get, that the patients get regularly. So it's good you mentioned those. That's amazing. Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm really just trying to provide this podcast as a resource for

anyone that wants to prevent or even, um, if they have cancer and they're looking for other resources and ways to maybe help, um, along their journey, you know, of, of dealing with that cancer. And so I have a question for you about epigenetics. Do you believe, I know that there is, um, epigenetics is a newer uh I don't know what you call it like concept I guess that we have been introduced to in the last like I would say what like 15 years which basically shows that our genes don't tell us everything they only say about 10 percent of a chance that we are going to have to get cancer. It really is all about diet and lifestyle. That is correct. Right. I do. So epi means over your genetics. So it's all the environmental influences over your

own genetics. So I always tell patients genetics is not destiny. They took 44,000 identical twins and they looked at their cancer and it was all the difference was how they ate and how they lived was the difference in the in them getting cancer. So, like you said, you either are going to pull the trigger for your genes or you're not. So how you think, what water you drink, the food you eat, the environmental exposure to toxicity will influence your genes. Your nutrient deficiencies will influence the functionality of your genes. So epigenetics is like the, you know, probably the biggest topic and it's, you know, it's about time. It's something we've known about for a very long time. But it's not something that we are practicing in medicine unless you go to an integrative physician who is looking at your environment and what is could complete analysis of a person's life. How do they sleep? The water they drink? Do they have filtration system? What is their food? What exactly are they eating? You know, how do they move? What is their stress like? All these things are very, very important. Yeah, I really wanted to talk about that, just because I feel like it's such a new

thing that a lot of people aren't aware of that, you know, and I have friends that have, you know, been getting tested for the BRCA gene. And I try to explain to them that it doesn't mean everything. Right. Well, genetics is only probably five to 7% related to very, it's very little. So people need to not say that their family history is going to get them, because I hear a lot of people go, oh, my mom, you want to know, like in conventional medicine, we always want to know what the mom had done, you know, you want to, okay. But at the same time, you know, genetics doesn't always predispose you to a diagnosis like heart disease or cancer because you don't know which genes you got. Then the second thing is, is that you mentioned the BRCA gene.

Only 50% of patients who are BRCA positive even entertain and get that cancer diagnosis. So half of them don't get cancer. So you can know for sure that being BRCA1 or 2 doesn't mean you're going to go get cancer. And those group of people though, because they're BRCA1 or BRCA2, that means they need to, they'll be practicing proactive preventive personalized medicine because, you know, they already know they have that. And so, you know, so, but people need to get the notion out of their head that their mom, dad, sister, whatever had cancer and, oh, I must be at risk. I mean, sometimes that's the case. I mean, they do genetic testing now to see if you

have a genetic component, but I will tell you, I've done thousands of those tests and rarely, rarely, rarely see anyone positive. Rarely. Wow. Yes. That's so interesting. Well, and I've also heard too, that, um, with epigenetics that there that oftentimes just because, so like, let's say your mom had breast or yeah, has breast cancer, had it and you end up getting it or like you're more susceptible to it. Oftentimes it's because you grew up eating the same foods that your mom did. You grew up in the same household. You were exposed to the same kind of toxins, trauma, toxins, everything. Yes. I find that so interesting. And it's so infuriating to me that that is not more, um, common knowledge because I find that a lot of people aren't aware of that.

And again, it really goes back to what really angers me about this disconnect between conventional allopathic medicine and this newer integrative holistic approach that we have because we're not taking into account these lifestyle and food at all. Like, right. Well, no, all of my patients tell me that every doctor, every doctor they've seen said that what they eat doesn't matter just to eat. Now, how that can be in 2021, almost 2022. How can any doctor say that when the single greatest determinant is what you eat? All right. And so I don't know how that happens. So patients, patients actually know this now. So that's the good news. They know better. Most people know better, but there's also people, you know, cause health is not advertised, right? You don't see blueberries and broccoli on advertisements on television or on anything, unless you see it on someone's Instagram page about the great meal they just prepared. So, so, you know, you don't really get to see, you know, get to see the magic

of, of, of, you know, beautiful food. I mean, it's all, you know, the advertisement is a drug or some new, you know, chemicalized, you know, drink or chip or something something it's nothing that's going to help the end user and so I always am you know that's one of my pet peeves is is like every company should think about how they're going to affect the end user is is it going to be great and wonderful but we should go back to the discussion about you know the the part, because there's so much in our own control about, you know, prevention cancer. So we talked about, you know, what people ate and avoiding, you know, eating organic foods, avoiding alcohol, avoiding tobacco, exercise, you know, we have 800 muscles and people do not move. Okay. I know I started my first practice in weight loss because I was like, oh yeah, everybody needs to lose weight. That's

how I can get patients. And so I remember I shared food journals with my girlfriend and this was way before I was a doctor. And I thought, okay, I can do this. I'm going to start reading about metabolic medicine and everything. So this was a long time ago. And so I hired a dietician to work in my office in Los Angeles. And then, you know, we carry, we got it together, but with my little calorie food County and a little book and her expertise. And then I knew the blood work to order to make sure their, you know, thyroid was right, your blood sugar, all these things were right. But anyway, but food is important. The movement, the movement, like I said, movement, people don't move. And I

would say today's world, because of computer, because of, you know, phones and because of iPads and everything, people don't move. People should be so happy to like wash their dishes, wash their clothes, because they're just adding steps to their life and adding movement. And they now we have to go work out at gyms because our life is in front of a computer predominantly, unfortunately. And that brings up the other thing is the exposure to electromagnetic fields are in an artificial light we need to be out with sunshine because sunshine helps our whole body work creating endorphins vitamin d levels i mean dope neurotransmitters

all these wonderful things happen when you're out in the sunshine. And so we demonized the sunshine because you're going to get cancer. It's the overuse of sun, okay? But getting 30 minutes of sun is only going to be additive to your life. And then making sure that the vitamin levels that you do have, I mean, I know people, they can't, maybe can't afford it, but they can get a good food-based vitamin and maybe take an oil and maybe take a D without, you know, necessarily measuring them. And one very important blood test that I do is something called MTHFR. MTHFR is methylated tetrahydrofolate reductase. 50% of the population has this problem,

and it's a blood test you do once in your life. It has nothing to do with genetics. It has to do with epigenetics, what we were talking about before. So it has nothing to do that your mom and dad gave you this. No, it has to do with the influence of your environment that's created this problem. But it's a big problem because that means you're not metabolizing your DNA properly every day. So there isn't a disease that's not influenced with this deficiency. And it's only corrected with a methylated B vitamin combination. And so you need to know because everything from depression, cancer, heart disease is related to MTHFR. And I mean, there's a lot of science to all of this and someone, you know, you get the proper workup and then you get on the proper nutrition

supplementation to correct the problem. And it's a lifelong treatment. It's not something you do for a month or two. It's a forever treatment that you will have to take. And so, yeah, but that one's so simple. I have a lot of friends actually that have it. It's so funny. I've, I call it the motherfucker gene. Cause it looks like on the lab work. Um, but yeah, like I have a lot of friends that actually have that. And it's, that's such a good point because I have a friend recently who just found out that she had it. And she was like, I can't tell you the difference between night and day of, of now taking for people listening that aren't, aren't aware of what it is. You just have to take a methylated B because your body can't

methylate the vitamin, the vitamin B on its own. And the difference that my friend feels in the last couple of weeks, she was like, Oh my God, Courtney, I cannot believe I didn't figure this out sooner. It helped with my energy levels. And like, she just listed off all these things. And I was like, everyone needs to take this test, right? Everyone. Yeah. It's standard for everybody should do the test or your primary care should be doing that because it's life-changing like your friend said. Yeah, absolutely. I want to end this on this note, because we've talked for so long. And this has been such an amazing conversation. I'm so happy that you're able to come on. Can we just briefly touch on, I think this is something

that you and I are both going to agree on that the body is built to heal itself, ultimately, you know, and it's all about, it's our job to do things that can support it in that healing and just make sure that we're not doing things that are detrimental to our health. So for example, eat sugar, how would you recommend that people support their body in healing itself naturally? So you brought up another one that I want to dive into a little bit, because I think this is really important is vitamin D. Because I know there's a lot of studies connecting, um, cancer rates with low levels of vitamin D. There's even connection to COVID. We don't have to go into that, but let's talk a little bit about why vitamin D is so important.

Well, vitamin D it's kind of interesting because you've got to test your vitamin D twice a year, actually in the winter months and in the summer months, because if you're out in the summer, your body is, you know, can make vitamin D from the sun. But if you're now in wintertime, and I just had a patient today, their level was low because it's winter. And so now they need to supplement. So vitamin D influences over 3000 genes in your body. So not only for prevention of cancer, heart disease, bone, brain, everything. Vitamin D influences everything.

So you need to have, most likely, most of my patients that I've checked over the years, probably 99% are low. 99% very low. The only people that come in and they have good vitamin D is because they are supplementing themselves or extreme exposure, you know, like out in the sun. But I've had patients who have their volleyball players outside and they still have low vitamin D. So I always tell people, yeah, well, because possibly just because for some reason they're not absorbing their vitamin D, you know, as you for different reasons, because I've seen this, especially being in Southern California.

We have great sun exposure here, but I still see in my big practice, I would say most people have low vitamin D. So it's insurance. You know, I've never seen anybody with vitamin D toxicity. So I've never seen anybody overdose, even though people say, oh my God, your levels are high. I've never seen a patient have a complaint with slightly elevated vitamin D, like 100, 110. I've never seen anybody have any toxicity, like symptoms of it. So it's a fat soluble vitamin. There's four fat soluble vitamins, A, D, E, and K. So that's why, you know, the other ones are water soluble. You just pee it out. But if that's soluble, it takes a while to get it down, but I've never seen anybody with vitamin D

toxicity. So we know that in lots of disease process, vitamin D plays a very, very powerful part. In fact, the evidence is growing daily, new things come out all the time. Oh, that's so interesting. So for someone listening, let's say, I hope that this never happens to anyone listening, but if they were to get diagnosed with cancer, what would you say they should do? And I mean, like in terms of everything, like what kind of doctor should they look for that will help them with the kind of care that you provide if they aren't able to see you? Yeah. Really any kind of tips that you have? Well, I would say the most important thing is one, listen to just the things we're talking about today, because, you know, self-care is going to be the new health care.

All right. And we know that because illness is only on the rise. And I say that because if you look at the health of our children from autism to, what parents are, you know, with their children and with the health care system, we're not creating healthy people for some reason. U.S. ranks 43rd in health care in the world, 43rd. We spend twice as much as any other country. So the paradigm that we're doing is not creating healthy people. 60% of the population is on one or more medicines. There's 10 prescriptions written per man, woman, and child, and maybe even more because that was a couple of years ago. So per man, woman, and child, and every prescription is a toxin, right?

Because I don't care how you slice it. It is a toxic substance that creates one or more nutritional deficiencies, not to mention every drug damages your mitochondria, which are your powerhouse engines of yourself. So the healthcare system we have is not working. So you need to partner with a doctor who is very preventive, proactive, personalized, and precise about getting you healthy. And if you're practicing health daily, then you're not going to need that physician or the naturopath or, I mean, you have to go to a healthcare practitioner to verify that you're healthy. I mean, you can't just go to a nutritionist because a nutritionist just doesn't have the clinical training to know that, okay?

They're really good at what they do, but they're not good about making sure there's nothing seriously going on. And number two is there is so much information. We have your podcast. We have so much information. We have your podcast. We have so much information out there. But everything in life is about execution, focus, clarity, execution. charge because I tell people self-care is going to be the new health care because there's just not enough great resources around to to just not take self-responsibility and a lot of it you can do yourself by just you know listening reading you don't have to read a hundred books you just listen

to start listening to podcasts and start I just know on Instagram that people have changed their lives and a hundred times better probably with your podcast they listen to your podcast oh my and start listening to podcasts and start, I just know on Instagram that people have changed their lives in a hundred times better, probably with your podcast. They listen to your podcast. Oh my God, I started doing that. This many changes happened, right? So, but you do have to verify

because this world today, we talked about environmental chemicals. The environmental chemicals are out of control and there's not, there's no change in sight. And so, so I would tell people that, that they would need to just verify with a doctor, either a naturopath or a integrative medical doctor, because that's the new updated medicine. A lot of physicians, though, realize that their toolkit of just diagnosing and treating with the medicine is just not enough. Okay. So there's more

and more physicians that are becoming integrative using the best of conventional with all these other tools and all the new studies, because in PubMed alone, there's 1.2 million articles produced every year, right? So there's something new coming up. I mean, just in plant medicinal, there's 50,000 compounds that we know today, 50,000. There's probably 200,000. They just all haven't been verified. So we know that there is so much out there to help ourselves, but there's so much changing. So you have to have a practitioner who is willing to, you know, read and study and keep up with the latest, greatest,

and teach you at least the basics, which we've talked about today is, is, you know, all the things we've, you know, mentioned today, but people more importantly, I, I find in my years is execution, you know? Yeah. And I would love to add to this. If you have a doctor that's telling you that there's no connection to the food that you're putting in your body and disease run like hell and find a new doctor. That's what I say too. Yeah. I say that too, because not with what we know to do, we have, we have all the working knowledge. Yeah, absolutely. So is there anything else that you feel like people need to know that we haven't covered today? Well, we talked about, you know, we haven't talked about hormones and cancer and hormones in general, but hormones are the natural chemical molecules that are messengers that turn on and off your body.

Every single cell in your body, your trillions of cells all have chemical messengers. And today, young people have a lot of hormonal imbalances because we talked about the environmental influences, not just women, but men too. And so that is something you need to today look at now more than ever, because the environment is changing your thyroid, changing your blood sugar. There's a lot of chemicals that are called obesogens and diabetogens. And so these are chemical substances that create a medical problem in your body. And then we have so many different things that are influencing our system that you talked about the xenoestrogens, which are the foreign estrogens. Plastics are probably the biggest culprit, but these are things that you and I, we have no control over. We do have control by cleansing. And like I say, you can do a lot of

home cleansing. You can eat a lot of cruciferous vegetables, green tea, like for example, drinking green tea has tons of anti-cancer activity. So taking some of these anti-cancer nutrients and rotating them on a regular basis can be very, very helpful. But, you know, hormones are like, they make you tick every day. They make your digestion work, your brain work, your mood work, everything work. So a lot of people have adrenal problems. They have estrogen imbalance. So like look at all the people that have cancer because they don't have enough progesterone. They have estrogen dominance or they have inadequate production of progesterone, especially as you age.

I mean, it starts around probably around somewhere between 35 and 40. And so you have to have a doctor that's schooled with the hormones so they can tell you and support you with that, you know, with that proper direction. So, and, and so, Oh, sorry. No, that's all right. I had a question about the hormones. So do you think that part of the reason we're seeing such a rise in cancers is because we put so many women on birth control? Well, that's a big hot question. There's no question. Okay. So because I talked about, I did a little tick tock or something on the IUD and there's two kinds of IUDs. There's the IUD that's just simple and plain. And then there's the IUD with levonorgestrel. So that's a synthetic hormone.

So of course, me being injured by a hormone, I am like really against anything that's, you know, probably not good for your body. Synthetic, right? So I know when you're 21 years old or 23 years old, you know, you might need to go on birth control pills because, you know, like that's just what works for you. So I get that. I get that. So I would make sure though, you took Estro Dem, which is from the broccoli family, and you made sure you protect it yourself because we know that the estrogen anti-birth control pill in most birth control pills is a synthetic estrogen and hormones are breast cancer, for example, in many cases, not in all cases is estrogen driven. So why would your body be designed to go against itself with your own

natural production of estrogen? But this is a synthetic hormone that can wreak havoc in our system. Now you have a lesser incidence of ovarian because you've turned off those cycles, the menstrual cycles and the normal ovulation production. All right. Yeah. But you definitely can have an increase in if you're predisposed, you know, everyone's different. Like I said, everyone is their own little, you know, journey. And, and so, you know, some women can take, I know, I see women sometimes they come in birth control pills at 50 and I'm like, wow, what doctor would give you birth control pills? But they do that because they have a regular menstrual cycles or they want to make, you know, their, their periods regular, or they want them

to go through menopause early, clean and fine. But I'm like, if you don't have to take synthetic hormones, it is best not to because these are problematic and can create hormonal imbalance, increase your risk of breast cancer, especially when you're taking a synthetic estrogen and the higher your estrogen. And we know that progesterone, natural progesterone is protective, not only in female cancers, but all cancers combined. All right. And so, because progesterone is anti, natural progesterone is anti-growth. And so I learned that from a mentor many years ago because his mother had kidney cancer and he studied everything. This was 40 or 50 years ago. And he studied, you know, and progesterone was one natural progesterone was one of the treatments.

And so you're right. So we just have to be careful again. You know, I know, you know, I know when I was young, you know, birth control pill was easy because it's easy. But we also have to think about counterbalancing our body when we take things. And what protection are we taking? And then you talk about women who are doing infertility drugs. So you're surging those cycles and creating exaggerative, very exaggerated hormonal cycles. Those two can be increasing your risk because you're, you're flooding your body with very, very high levels. It's very artificial. You're stimulating, very hyper stimulatory

ovulation. And so those can, we know now is it going to happen to everybody? No. But again, what, you know, what I always say is like, let's make sure that it's not doing anything and it hasn't done anything. And so, because in today's world, because cancer rates are so high, we should always be working up a patient as if they have something and then verify they don't have anything. Yeah. Well, I, I will outright say it. I have a problem with birth control. I don't have a problem with women once they have all the information and they know all the risks at hand, still deciding to take it. I'm in full support. I'm in full support of whatever anyone wants to do with their body that they decide is the best for them. Who am I to decide that? The problem that I have is that I watched this happen when I was a kid and I'm seeing that

it's still happening now is we're putting women on birth control starting at like 13, 14. We're not telling them the risks. We're basically just putting it on to mask symptoms, putting a bandaid over what's actually happening instead of addressing the real issue here. They're not even most of the time being put on birth control when they're 14 because they're having sex. It's because they're dealing with hormonal imbalances that are not being addressed. So I have an issue with that. And we're not honest with how we're completely shutting off women's natural cycles and replacing them with synthetic hormones. I didn't know that until I was probably like 28. I was like, wait, what? I thought it was just like, you know, cause we're, we're told like, Oh, it helps your cycle. And it, you know, anyway, so that, that

is where I have an issue with birth control, especially, you know, when I started diving into more of this and learning about the connection with cancers and the rising of, you know, estrogen, the levels of estrogen that go up in your body and how it can put us at risk for breast cancer. And so that's where I have like a huge issue with birth control. And also I feel like we're not, we're not having enough there. There are more and more conversations, but we're not having enough conversations with women about how to actually just track their cycles. There are so many tools that we can do now. I work. Oh my goodness. Right. Like, why are we not telling women when they're, you know, 13, 14, when they're getting their periods, like how to actually track

their cycles and be in tune with their bodies. It's right. Well, and I agree with you, young girls, they haven't even fully developed. Why would we be putting people on fake hormones when they need to go through their natural maturative journey, you know? So, yeah. So, and they do give it for acne also. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, you know, that's, these are the things that I would not ever recommend. Okay. Now I know everybody's different. I know that all these different doctors have a different style. And when you're a conventional doctor, Courtney, they, that's how they're taught. Okay. And that is just what has happened. But I'm my job is to protect the patient as much as possible. That is my job. Okay. And to give you the informed consent of here's all the possibilities. And I need you to know that. And like you said, is once you know all of that, then you can make that decision. Exactly. Like, like I said, I'm full, I'm in full support of what anyone wants to do with their own body. As long as they just know everything,

like tell us all the risks. Cause I also have a lot of girlfriends that, you know, were on birth control for 10 years. No one told them that once they got off, they were gonna have a really hard time having kids. And I know a lot of women that are really upset about it now. Cause they're like, I was blindly put on this when I was 14 and then came off and had a horrible time trying to get pregnant. And I, my heart goes out to women like that because we're not, we are not communicating that in the doctor's office. So that is where I have the issue. Yeah, I totally agree. Yeah. It's just doing women a disservice. So anyways, well, thanks for letting me go off my birth control rant. Um, well, this has been so amazing. I'm so glad that you brought

up the hormonal connection. Cause I think that's really important for people to hear before I let you go. I want to ask you what I ask all of my guests. What are your health non-negotiables? I know you're super busy. You probably don't have a lot of time to prioritize things in your day, but what are things that you're just like every day I do this for my health, no matter what? Oh no, I prioritize that number one. Okay. So I always get a good night's sleep. Okay. I try to get about eight hours, no matter what. I always have 5 Jillian things to do. Okay. There's I, that is a given and everyone else does too, but it always can wait until tomorrow. So always get a good night's sleep.

So I tell people your, your day starts when you go to sleep, because if you don't go to sleep well, then the next part of the day, then I always, when I wake up, I always do a green juice with vitamin C and I put my comprehensive formula in there. So I do that every single day. Then I go to the gym and work out. And even, even if I only have 15, 20 minutes, I do something. Usually it's minimum 30 minutes. Sometimes obviously I do, I can do more, but before I get out of bed, I always do. And I'm always in an attitude of gratitude. So I always start thinking of everything I'm thankful for all the time while I'm making my green juice, going here, walking, walking down the stairs and so forth. So then I make a really good, I love eggs because eggs hold me. Nothing else holds me.

So I always have eggs every single day. And people always go on Instagram, you eat eggs every day. I say, yeah, because nothing else holds me. So I love eggs. And I usually get farm fresh, not soy free, you know, all the other great things. I do not compromise on food. Food is like for me, like, wonderful. Yes, I go out to eat, but I go out to eat where they have foods that that are good and healthy. Okay, I don't go to fast foods. I don't go to foods, restaurants that don't have

good quality food. All right. And then I always drink water. I always have a glass water bottle with me all the time, no matter what I'm doing. I always have a glass water bottle and I drink water through the day. And then at lunch, I always have a good, healthy lunch every day. I always have a nighttime when I get home, cause I get home late cause my days are very long and um I always will eat dinner and I always eat a little dinner because you should you know there's an old saying eat like a king for breakfast queen for lunch and pupper for dinner so I eat little I eat little at night because your body's going to go detox and repair and regenerate and then I always do a deep breathing a mantra thing for about 11 minutes. And then I immediately think how blessed and how thankful I am for every single thing. I send my patients healing vibrations every day.

I am thankful for anything and any problem. I turn it into a positive. Okay. And so, and then I just don't allow myself to be stressed. I know that sounds funny, but I mean, you you you have to decide to manage your reaction. OK, we it's OK to respond. It's not good to react because who loses at the end of the day is you do. And that's what I teach my staff is that when you react with a patient, they're just going to get them going more. If you just respond, what can I do to serve you?

Then your day will be really, really calm. So my life revolves around my health practices. So do I have fun? Of course I do. Of course I do. You know, I enjoy a great piece of chocolate at, you know, at four o'clock. Okay. Do I go out on the weekends?

Yes. And I go out to restaurants. Yeah. But I go to restaurants that I know I can get. Like I had venison Saturday night with my husband. It was incredible. Grass-fed, you know, and everything wonderful. So it might not have been perfect, you know, but I ate it. I didn't

even eat all of it. Right. Because when you eat real food, you get full very quickly. These are things how I, you know, live. And I always spend, I always spend time part of the weekend recharging and rejuvenating. I have a sauna at home and I do, I do all these practices on a regular basis. Thank you for sharing all that. I feel like those are some really amazing tips that people can hopefully incorporate in their own life. So thank you. So for everyone listening, where can they find you? Well, a couple of things. KeneallyMD, you'll find everything.

You can follow me on Instagram. I do have TikTok also. And I have written two books, Be Perfectly Healthy and Cancer Revolution. We have a regular podcast. So I'm not the only person because I'm not the only person you want to learn from, you want to learn from as many people. So but the people here are amazing at what they do. And our guests are amazing. And so people can listen to our podcast also to learn more so that

they can take charge and take care of themselves. Amazing. I love that so much. Thank you so much for coming on today. This was very enlightening. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for listening to today's episode of the Real Foodology Podcast. If you liked this episode, please leave a review in your podcast app to let me know. This is a resident media production produced by Drake Peterson and edited by Chris McCone. The theme song is called Heaven by the amazing singer Georgie, spelled with a J. Love you guys so much. See you next week. The content of this show is for educational and informational purposes only.

It is not a substitute for individual medical and mental health advice and doesn't constitute a provider-patient relationship. I am a nutritionist, but I am not your nutritionist. As always, talk to your doctor or your health team first