Realfoodology - The Hidden Causes of Chronic Illness Most Doctors Miss | Dr. Charlie Fagenholz

Episode Date: June 16, 2026

304: Today I'm joined by Dr. Charlie Fagenholz to discuss frequency medicine, muscle testing, and the hidden factors that may be affecting our health. We explore the connection between emotional trauma and physical symptoms, how mold, parasites, glyphosate, and environmental toxins can impact the body, and why many people struggle to find answers through conventional approaches alone. We also dive into circadian rhythms, EMFs, gallbladder health, and the importance of getting back to the basics when it comes to healing. This is a fascinating conversation about root-cause health, modern environmental stressors, and the powerful connection between the mind and body. Topics Discussed: → Understanding frequency medicine and muscle testing → How emotional trauma can show up as physical symptoms → Mold, parasites, glyphosate, and other hidden health disruptors → The role of light, sleep, and circadian rhythms in healing → EMFs and the modern environmental challenges affecting health → Why gallbladder health matters more than most people realize → Simple health habits that have the biggest impact Sponsored By: → Our Place | Stop cooking with toxic cookware, and upgrade to Our Place today. Visit https://fromourplace.com/REALFOODOLOGY and use code REALFOODOLOGY for 10% off sitewide. With a hundred-day risk-free trial, free shipping and returns, you can experience this game-changing cookware with zero risk. → Function | Check your health the way I do — 160+ lab tests a year for $365, plus the ability to dive deeper into your results with Function's trusted connections to platforms like ChatGPT and Claude. Join at https://functionhealth.com/REALFOODOLOGY and use code REALFOODOLOGY25 for a $25 credit toward your membership. → Shopify | Start your business today with the industry’s best business partner, Shopify, and start hearing “cha ching.” Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at https://shopify.com/realfoodology → Qualia | Take control of your cellular health today. Go to https://qualialife.com/realfoodology and save 15% to experience the science of feeling younger. → Clearstem | Discover the CLEARSTEM difference — Because CLEAR SKIN CHANGES EVERYTHING. Go to https://clearstem.com/realfoodology and use code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout for 15% off your first order. → Cowboy Colostrum | Get 25% Off Cowboy Colostrum with code REALFOODOLOGY at https://cowboycolostrum.com/realfoodology Timestamps:  → 00:00:00 - Introduction → 00:02:45 - What Is Frequency Medicine? → 00:06:15 - How Dr. Charlie Discovered Muscle Testing → 00:08:50 - The Biggest Misconceptions About Chiropractic Care → 00:12:45 - Mold, Parasites, Glyphosate + Hidden Health Stressors → 00:16:45 - Why Symptoms Aren't Always What They Seem → 00:19:30 - The Connection Between Emotional Trauma + Physical Illness → 00:23:05 - Muscle Testing Demonstration → 00:25:30 - How Frequency Medicine Is Used In Practice → 00:29:00 - Why More People Are Turning To Root-Cause Medicine → 00:32:18 - Red Light Therapy, Lasers + Cellular Frequencies → 00:33:28 - Circadian Rhythms, Sleep + Morning Sunlight → 00:34:24 - Are EMFs, Glyphosate + Environmental Toxins Driving Disease? → 00:37:30 - Why Health Doesn't Have To Be Complicated → 00:39:00 - Why The Gallbladder Is So Important → 00:41:28 - Life After Gallbladder Removal → 00:42:12 - CRP, Inflammation + Psoriasis → 00:43:50 - Understanding EMFs + Modern Technology → 00:46:20 - How Concerned Should We Be About EMFs? → 00:49:40 - Powerful Patient Success Stories → 00:52:34 - Vaping, Cigarettes + Modern Toxins → 00:54:40 - The Health Basics Most People Overlook → 00:57:02 - Why Emotional Trauma Matters More Than We Think → 00:59:04 - Where To Find Dr. Charlie → 01:01:04 - Building An Online Health Community → 01:02:44 - OutroShow Links: → realfoodology.com Check Out:  → Dr. Charlie's Website  → Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/drcharliedc/ Check Out Courtney:  →  LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE →  Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide! →  @realfoodology →  www.realfoodology.com →  My Immune Supplement by 2x4 →  Air Dr Air Purifier →  AquaTru Water Filter →  EWG Tap Water Database Produced By: Drake Peterson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What I say in a nutshell is it is a neurological tool that you're testing the adaptability of the nervous system. And the goal of this is to find the roadblocks that you're not adapting to and find the best way possible to make your body adaptable. And those are the people who thrive. Dr. Charlie, thank you so much for coming on today. This has been a long time coming. Yes, two years. Yes. Well, in fact, I think I even found you.

I was trying to think about this earlier. I think I found your account during COVID. And then we started chatting, and I've been trying to get you on the podcast forever, so I'm so happy that we finally made it happen. Yeah, I'm glad we made it happen for sure. Yeah, thanks for coming to Austin to record this. So right before we started recording, you were showing me these vials, and you're kind of talking to me about something called frequency medicine, which is something I've never heard of before. I'm not versedness at all. So somebody who is just hearing about this for the first time, how would you explain that?

Like an elevator speech? Yeah. But you have plenty of time. You don't need to do an elevator pitch. Honestly, I think just starting kind of with my story is a good way of kind of getting into frequency medicine. And I went to chiropractic school. I wasn't intending to go to chiro school. I was going to go to pharmacy school, did job shadowing, and knew I wasn't going to be a pharmacist in like five minutes.

Just a terrible, boring job. If any pharmacists are listening, I'm sorry, but it is what it is. And I went to shadow my chiropractor in high school or when I was a freshman in college. first doctor who people walked in they felt crummy they left feeling good and that was all i went off of i'm like i can do that the rest of my life and so fast forward go to chiropractic school and a year in i meet this student who was a year ahead of me and he had been practicing functional frequency medicine and really frequency medicine but i kind of term it now functional frequency medicine and and why i do that is because i mean you're very well versed in functional medicine is that is that you're very well versed in functional

medicine is like the question asking right like people go in they feel crummy the blood work looks great but because they're compared to the sick of the sick of course their blood's going to look decent and functional medicine asks the better question of what's optimal for that person and so they ask really good questions and it really resonated with that but it wasn't until i really experienced a frequency medicine treatment that i was like uh i've chilled when i say it i'm like uh okay that's that's a different experience. What I mean by that was this student was like, hey, do you want to learn this muscle testing and frequency medicine that I'm doing? And at the time, I was like, no. I just want to be a good adjuster. I want to be a chiropractor. Like, that's what I'm going to school for, obviously.

He's like, well, do you mind if I treat you? And I'm like, all right, go ahead. And at the time, this kid's 23 years old, right? Like, in school still. And he does a couple muscle tests. He's testing all different muscles. And he, like, told me my whole life story for the first, like, 23 years of life in like two minutes. Wow. I'm like, uh, okay, what was that? Are you a psychic? He's like, he's like, you have no stomach acid. And I was like, well, I've been on proton pump inhibitors for four years. He's like, you ever had a really bad headache? I'm like, yeah, I had a migraine when I was in middle school for three weeks and no one can figure it out. He's like, if you ever had a really bad viral infection? I was like, yeah, I had mono. I was in the hospital again for 10 days with mono.

He's like, all this is still like in your body essentially. And what it was was that I still had the electronic signatures of it in my cells. And muscle testing is a one way of frequency medicine to tap into the nervous system and cellular frequencies. And like, I mean, I've been to MDs, I've been all these different doctors and this student in two minutes told me like everything that was going on with me and that's still affecting me. that like opened my mind to like a whole world. So that was 2012. Yeah. That's amazing.

So I was first introduced to muscle testing when I was in high school because my mom, my mom's the whole reason that I am the way that I am and know everything and got into all this because I was very lucky to have a mom that was very tuned in health. And she was, you know, making everything from scratch. She was taking me to chiropractor when I was a kid. And they did muscle testing on me. And I remember this is how I figured out I had a gluten allergy and a couple of other things. It was true to me. The muscle testing did actually tell me things that really didn't work for me.

Well, then I remember, and I'm asking you this because I really am curious to know how you combat this kind of stuff. I see online when people talk now about muscle testing or even about chiropractors sometimes. There's this negativity online, too, where people say like, oh, they're not real doctors or they don't know what they're doing. And I'm asking this, I believe in it. But I'm curious what you say to those type of people, because sometimes I don't even know how to respond to them because I'm like, wait, no, but I've done it and I know it works. Yeah, yeah. So which part? The muscle testing? I think all of it. I think both. Can you address both? Yeah. Okay.

Well, chiropractic has been, you know, looked down upon since Rockefeller, essentially, came and wanted to monopolize the chemical industry. And the Flexner Report. Flexner report. Andrew Flexner. And so it starts with that where like homeopaths, acupuncturist, chiropractors, because the original chiropractors were medical doctors. You know, D.D. Palmer, who started chiropractic in the late 1800s, they wanted him to become a medical doctor. that I don't think you guys are going in the right direction. And so his first class of graduating chiropractors were medical doctors. And then the whole, I think it was what Johns Hopkins School is where Flex Center did all the stuff.

And then that kind of wiped away all the holistic medicine. And whoever was pushing pharmaceutical drugs got funding money for their schools. And people can really read up on that. So that kind of started it. And then the AMA really went after chiropractic in the 80s. And it went to court and all the stuff. And chiropractic won. Oh, really?

Yeah, one in the 80s. And so... Oh, I didn't know that. That's good to know. Yeah. And so a lot of... If you look at the schooling of chiropractic, like how many hours they take of anatomy and biochemistry, like, it just trumps medical school.

Like, medical school gets like barely anything compared to what chiro's do, especially in neurology and stuff. They get way more pharmaceutical studies, obviously, and that's what they're really trained to do. But the one thing I will say, and I always say this, is that just because someone's a chiropractor does not mean that they're a great doctor. Okay. But same thing with medical doctors, and dentists and everything else. Like, just because you have the degree, you know, there's definitely levels to it, so to

speak. And there's people who are really, really good and people who are mediocre and not so good. So it's not like, hey, if I just go down the street to my chiropractor, they're going to save my life and be the best doctor for me. Yeah. You know, a lot of people are, it's kind of doing an unfair expectation of like, okay, well, I'm going to try this one chiropractor. If that chiropractor is not it, then.

And all chiropractic sucks. I totally agree. And I think that's where we get into trouble with all of this, is that maybe somebody has one bad experience, and then they're like, it's all of them. Yes. Which is horrible, because I've had some of the most amazing experiences ever with chiropractors. By far.

Truly, by far, like they have found things that nobody else has ever found before. And so it bums me out when I see that negativity online, which is why I brought it up and wanted to address it, because I want people to hear it from you. Yeah. Because I've had some of the most amazing experiences ever with them. 100% by far so okay that's amazing so let's talk about this frequency medicine i want to go over these little viols you have yeah we'll get it we'll get it going okay so can you tell me about it

yeah so i think it's it's fair to say that there's many different forms of frequency medicine you know someone who's watching this might do something like a quest four scan that takes your fingernails your your saliva and your hair runs it through a machine and then that picks up frequencies from your cells right that's one way of practicing frequency medicine the way that i do it is testing, which is what we'll talk about. I mean, even like EKGs and stuff like that is measuring frequencies of the body. And so there's many different ways of practicing it. There's people who use lasers and technically that's frequency medicine.

And light therapy is frequency medicine. So it's an umbrella term, but the one that I really talk about the most or utilize the most is muscle testing. And the reason why is you're familiar is because it takes out the guesswork and you're having a conversation with the nervous system. And everyone's like, well, it's energy work, it's the devil's work, it's this. I'm like, you guys are taking this way too serious. Yes. You know, like... It's no secret that we're energetic beings.

It's not even, like, that's just a fact. We can't even fight that. As soon as sperm and egg touch, there is an explosion of light if you look it under a microscope. That's so cool. Yeah. So it's all, lightest frequency and energy, it's all like similar. It's all the same thing. Or cells run on energy.

It's all of it. 100%. Yeah. And so for people who are like, like it's too woo-woo for me, like what's going on. What I say in a nutshell is it is a neurological tool that you're testing the adaptability of the nervous system. And the goal of this is to find the roadblocks

that you're not adapting to and find the best way possible to make your body adaptable. And those are the people who thrive. Awesome. Okay, can we show people how it works? Yeah. Can we do it? Yeah, so I brought some. I have thousands of vials,

but this is a very easy one to travel with. As we were saying, it looks like an old blockbuster video. Yeah, it does. That's exactly what I thought when I first saw you bring it in. Yeah. So let's see how the camera can see. They look like little perfume testers, right? Basically what it is is there's water in there, and these are homeopathically prepared

to whatever frequency you're trying to test. So like this one right here is protozoa, which is parasite. This green one is glyphosate, one of your favorites. Yep. and this one is mold fungal toxins. Okay. And so you can do other tests, right? You can do stool samples.

You can do hair test analysis. You can do urine samples. And those are all valid. They're all good. Now, one thing I will say is with vial testing, it is, can the body adapt or not? It's not something that I will say to someone like, hey, you have parasites because you weakened on this parasite vial. What I will say is there's a chance you can't adapt to this frequency, and we're going to find what makes you more adaptable. Some people will take that as, hey, I have parasites.

Yeah. And I'm okay with it. But for legal purposes, I just say you're, you are indicating that you can't adapt to this frequency. Let's make you adapt to. We'll see what changes in your health. Interesting. So that's how I explain it. But you've been muscle tested.

I have, yeah. So I don't know the best way to do this with the... I know. Here, I'll come to you because I feel like I can just move this like this. Okay. You all know that I'm super mindful about what goes in and around my food, and that includes the cookware that I use every single day. Most nonstick cookware still contains forever chemicals like Phaas, which can leach into your food and home. And honestly, once I learned that, I knew I had to make the switch.

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lock. So take it away. Oh, yeah. Hold strong. That's a good lock. And then do that. Yeah. Hold. And all that does is it shuts down the electricity of your body. I don't know 100% why that works, but it does. And it's taught universally in muscle testing. And so that's just letting me know that your nervous system is testable. Yeah. So if you were coming in, you're like, hey, I have these symptoms. I would start in my head putting together a story of maybe it is mold. Maybe they're around pesticide spraying. Maybe they have parasites. Maybe it's a food sensitivity.

You know, and I would get some vials. Like, for instance, let's go with mold vial and just take this. Okay. And I just hold it like that, right? And just hold up to your heart, if you would, and then hold strong. So you weaken to that, which means you're not adapting to mold. Well, and I can tell you from my doctor that I got lab work back and I have high mold right now that I'm dealing with. So that makes sense.

So put that one there and hold strong. And that one you're pretty adaptable to. So that's protozoa. So that's tiny little parasites. Okay. And then. Oh, man, I'm worried about this one. Like lysate.

Hold? Yeah, no, boy, no. Oh, and my glyphosate levels are really high right now. So here's the cool part about frequency medicine. Yeah. Is the difference between that and functional medicine. So you did testing and it said that your mold is high and your glyphosate is high. Yeah.

Okay. I didn't know that. You said a little bit about mold prior, but I didn't know that you did testing on that of glyphosate. So that's the cool. part of muscle testing. You're just asking the nervous system. Are they adapting or they not? Now in functional medicine, which I've studied a ton of, off of the blood work or the urine sample or the stool sample, it just tells you if it's high or it's in range. It doesn't tell you what's priority and where to start. And so with muscle testing, you can ask the body, where are we starting?

Do we do the mold, which then will, this is the thought process. I'm going to take people through. So do we do mold, which then will take the stress off the liver. Now the liver can more efficiently process glyphosate instead of going after high glyphosate and high mold. And so a lot of times the right thing at the right time is the miracle. Yeah. And the right thing at the wrong time is still the wrong thing. So how do we figure that out? Can we do that? There's multiple ways of doing it.

Okay, so let's see. This is tough for the microphone right here. I'm going to push this forward a little bit. Yeah, I think you're fine. Just move towards it. We should do it. So hold strong. Okay.

This is going to be a fun episode for your viewers. I know. This is so I love to do real stuff like this so they can see how it works. So that's mold. Okay. So put it up to your chest. Hold strong. And I do that just to bring it back to neurological awareness.

Okay. Okay. And now let me have that. We're going to switch and go to glyphosate just so your body is like, okay, now I have the frequencies because in two minutes you'll lose the frequencies and it won't muscle test, right? Okay. Yeah.

So now I want you. to put your pinky like that. Should I do like this? You can do that. Actually, do, um, yeah, do pinky straight down. Like this? Like that. Okay.

Okay. Hold strong. Okay. All right, you can relax that for a second. Now go back and test this one. Okay. On my heart again. And hold strong.

Okay. That one was weak a second ago, right? Yeah. And hold this one. Interesting. Glyphosate is more of a priority for you. Wow. So this is called a hand mode.

I've actually never. on podcast, never showed any of this stuff. This is going to be either really great or people would be like, he's nuts. No, no, no, no. But hand modes. Well, because I can back this up, by the way, with the study or with the labs that I have. But continue. Yeah.

So if you were a patient of mine, we'd be going after glyphosate, which would take stress off the body and then allow you to fight mold off more efficiently. And, you know, all these toxins, EMF, pesticides and all that, really accelerate mold and fungal growth. So for you, that's how it worked out. But maybe for someone else, mold may have been the priority and you have to start there. Yeah. And so that's a way of you of asking instead of doing it all at once, like, hey, where do we start?

What are we prioritize? Exactly. Okay, this is fascinating. Also for the listeners, just so they know where we were at before this, we just met in person like 10 minutes ago. Yeah. And you actually didn't know that I got lab testing and done because we basically sat down and started this episode. Literally. You were like showing me your vials and I said, oh my God, let's do this on the podcast.

Just so people know, so this wasn't something where I told him before and, you know, there's a whole thing, like, you had no idea what's going on and you haven't seen my labs because you're not treating me. I'm seeing a different doctor. So this is actually really fascinating and it's cool to see this in real time and I love that I have the testing on that. So what's interesting is you said something that my doctor had told me recently and so I've actually been seeing two different doctors and my first doctor was really wanting to focus on the glyphosate because she's really concerned about that. And then my second doctor was saying, I think we need to treat the mold because what he was saying is he was concerned that the mold is blocking one of my detoxification pathways and causing the glyphosate to build up, which is essentially what you just said. But it seems like maybe I need to be focusing more in the glyphosate right now. Yep. That's what your body would say. Which is pretty much what I'm doing.

I mean, to be honest, I'm doing both in the sense that I'm not drinking coffee anymore except for King Coffee because that was one of the things that he said is like, coffee is notoriously moldy. And I don't know this, but I love it. coffee so much. So I've been doing king coffee, just one of those a day. And then I've been doing really high doses of PC from body bio to address the glyphosate. And then also I'm starting to do some binders. I've been trying to do the sauna a couple times a week. Yeah, sweating is good. Yeah. Sweating is good for sure. Okay. Is there anything else that you would recommend? I know you can't, I mean, you're not my doctor, but just like broadly. With glyphosate, I like different. I'm a big

herbal person. Yeah. And so dandelion's really good. Oh yeah, he said that too. Yeah, dandelion's great. Um, basal's really good. Those are some of the, the top, uh, top ones for glyphosate. Okay, this is so fascinating. I'm glad that we did that. And that's just like, that's the tip of the iceberg. That's a very easy demo to do. But like if someone was a patient of mine and I have thousands of these vials and I start

going in and we're checking in if there's emotions tied to it, if there is a structural imbalance like chiropractic where, um, you see what makes them adaptable to the vial. They might have need their neck adjusted, which changes their neurology, changes their immunology. Yeah. And maybe, you know, maybe Glyph's state is affecting the liver. The liver's emotions are anger and frustration and aggression and depression and repression and all and galled and all these things. Maybe they experience that in life or maybe it's from childhood and that's still in their physiology and now it's weakening their system so that they're not able to process out these toxins efficiently. I probably have some of that. We all do.

It's human experience. It is. Well, actually, let's talk about that a little bit because this is also is something I'm super passionate about, and I've talked a lot with my audience about, I went through a very, very traumatic experience as a kid. I lost a sibling when I was eight. She was six, and it was a very, very traumatic situation. It was awful. And so a lot of my 30s, I spent really on this journey of uncovering all of that, unpacking it, trying to like heal the grief from that, releasing the grief, addressing a lot of that, going through therapy. Like, there's just been so many. And I've been really honest with my audience about it because I first got into food in my 20s, and I largely thought just food, that's it, diet, that's all you have to

manage, you know, as long as I had that down. And then I hit my 30s and was like, I'm still a mess. Like the diet is dialed in, but the anxiety is through the roof. Like, I'm just dealing with all these symptoms because I wasn't addressing the emotional trauma. So can we talk about that from a doctor's perspective? Yeah. You know, like you said, therapy and stuff is one piece of the puzzle. But one of the things that really opened my eyes to it was frequency medicine. of like, you know, how can someone who's muscle testing me find that I had, you know, heartbreak at 10 years old or whatever it was kind of thing? Yeah.

And the thing is that your emotions live in your tissues. They live in your cells. They live in your fascia. Candice Purt has a great book called The Molecules of Emotions. And every time you experience a trauma, it creates a nervous system peptide, a protein, a neuropeptide, they call it. And it's stored in your physiology until you find a tool to break that connection. and then the brain, the fear centers, the amygdala, let's go of it.

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But one thing is for sure is everyone will benefit from getting it out of their physiology. And I mean, so many people ask me if there's one thing that you would tell people to do for their health, like what would it be? And over the years, I feel like if you asked me at different points, I'd be like maybe this, maybe that. But releasing emotional trauma from the physiology, I think is more important than absolutely everything. Wow. Absolutely everything. Because think about I'll have a patient come in. and they'll have, there'll be a wreck.

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I've realized that really, in my 30s, when I started going down that path, of doing, and I've done so many things, I've done ketamine therapy, I've done psilcybin journeys. I mean, I've gone down. Went in it. Yeah, I did EMDR, I've done tapping, I've done a lot of this kind of stuff. Actually, I even did, I did an emotional release session with Dr. Gonzalez. Do you know Dr. G? No, I don't think so.

Okay, so he talks a lot about this too, and I did one of those with him as well. Okay. And, I mean, look, I'm still dealing with some stuff right now, but I did see a remarkable difference in how I felt and also like my anxiety too. I was having crazy panic attacks where I was like having out of body experiences and I was able to like really get rid of a lot of that kind of stuff. I would say like it makes you more adaptable to your conscious state. That's what I would say. It's like a good way of saying is it's like you took off a coat you never knew you head on. Like it's just like a sense of feeling lighter. And then that gets you away from reactivity and more like

conscious programming of like living with intention instead of reactivity. So if somebody listening is really curious about this and maybe this is the first time they've ever heard about this, what would be maybe a couple of things that you would tell them just to start looking into as far as addressing? Like hot find a practitioner type stuff? Yeah. And like what to look for? Like what to Google for near them or?

So it's really tough because like functional frequency medicine is a term that I made up. So you can't just like go to Google and be like, all right, who does functional frequency medicine in my area. I actually created a PDF that's on Instagram that like is by state of people who I know personally. Awesome. Because one of my main things was to get people into offices of people who practice similar to how I do. And like I was never into social media ever. And then all of a sudden I saw the reach it had. And I was writing like a small blog at the time that was getting no reach until I wrote one about vaccines and then it like went everywhere. But one day of doing a Q&A on Instagram with someone who had a good following and I saw like people were drowning in

information and starving for knowledge. Yes. And I was like, okay, so I guess my next purpose in this lifetime is to bring awareness that people like me exist and it can give you really good health care. And so I went to Instagram and really brought the attention to it and then I'm trying to get people into offices around the world. So the PDF on Instagram would probably be number one. You know, the first muscle testing technique is called applied kinesiology. So you can look up applied kinesiology in your area. That's one way. But there's so many techniques that have come from

applied kinesiology that like there's new and improved ways in my opinion. And all the old time applied kinesiology docs will say, I'm wrong and it's still blah, blah, blah. But to stay up with the times and things need to evolve, and there's some great techniques that have come from there. that really can give people good health care. That's awesome. I'm curious if you know,

do you know Vanessa Fitzgerald in L.A.? V's Honey on Instagram? Okay. I'm wondering, she's a friend of mine, I'm going to text her afterwards. This is kind of a side note, but if you're in L.A., I think she might be doing similar

that you're doing. I know that she does muscle testing and she is like, I mean, she's like a wizard. Like, she is so good at figuring out people's issues and she does a lot of muscle testing and stuff like that. I don't know if there's a better tool in my opinion

for medicine than muscle testing. Yeah. I always say like, even if you are Western medicine, ER doc, or whatever you are, even to muscle test what antibiotic is right in that time is such an advantage instead of just blindly throwing what helps the bell curve of people. For sure. You know, and so I'm big on analogies because people always kind of, you know,

understand through analogies or metaphors. And I always say that the body's like a garage door. Muscle testing is like the key code. If you have the right key code, the garage lets you walk right in it and the body's the same way. Okay, yeah. Oh, I love that. I love analogies too. Yeah. Okay, so I want to talk about, too, you have this little red light gun, or what is this? Exactly. I don't know. Yes, laser. There we go. Yeah, yeah. So it's a, it's a laser, red, near infrared, and violet light laser. Okay. All in one. And what does it do? What's it for? So this is more for treatment. So there's different

frequencies programmed in here from infections like parasites viruses fungus you know there's different conditions in here like Alzheimer's and neurological conditions there's nerve pain there's circulation stuff there's a whole bunch of stuff programmed in here and all it does is emit light frequency electromagnetic frequencies that when it hits your skin then your brain almost takes the frequencies and supercharges the healing response to whatever frequencies you're trying to heal Oh, so give me an example of something that you would try to, that you would use that on for somebody, like something they're dealing with,

that you would use that for. So we'll take you for an instance. Yeah. And I found that glyphosate was a priority for you. So then what I would do is I would find what herbs help you with glyphosate, and then I would find what the priority organ is, and then I would find the organ setting in here, and light up the organs, so to speak, through the skin,

and enhance the organ's function to help the protocol go faster. Wow. And how often would you do something like that? Two to three, three to five minutes, up to three times a day. Obviously, if patients don't have their own, then I'm just doing it whenever they're in the office with me. Cool. I'm trying to get all of frequency medicine tools accessible. Yeah.

And so people can use them in their home because it's just, it's too good of stuff not to, you know, shed light on them. Yeah. And I'm curious, since that is. is technically, so it's infrared light. Red light, there's near infrared, or red, infrared, and then laser. Do you know, Brigham? Oh, man, all these people I think you would know, so sorry. I'm like not a, so I am not the stereotypical influencer.

Yeah. Where like I don't know the community of influencers and stuff. We gotta get you in. Living my life and with my kids and wife and treating patients and doing my membership and just living. Yeah, I mean, that's amazing. But all these people I've mentioned are just amazing. people in the community that are doing really cool stuff. Totally.

But anyway, the only reason I brought him up is he has this infrared red light bed. Yeah, this, the only difference is this has violet light and laser in it. Laser is a very specific frequency where red infrared light is a wavelength of frequencies. And so like I use red light at home all the time. I have a ton of different red light gadgets. A bed like that's phenomenal. Oh, it was awesome. Yeah.

And I always say the future of medicine is light. and laser therapy, bar none. I'm starting to hear this a lot for people. It is. Our cells are resonating at certain frequencies. And I was reading this book about it, and the one thing they said that really hit home for me was even if you have glyphosate,

even if you have viral issues like Epstein Bar and Lyme and all this stuff, at the core of your cells, all that's doing is disrupting the frequency they vibrate at. And so if you can get those cells back to proper vibration, and strengthens your system towards those external toxins or infections and stuff like that. So at the end of the day, we are literally just harmonizing the frequencies of your cells. And the better we can do that, that's when you thrive.

And if you don't, you're in a disease state. Is this why it's so important at night that you need to sleep in a pitch black, dark room with no light coming in anywhere? And why it's so incredibly important first thing in the morning to get sunlight in your eyes? 100%. Okay. Because that's your whole circadian rhythm. Like if you don't sleep in pure darkness, you don't release melatonin. Melatonin and cortisol are on teeter-totter.

So now you're messing with your stress hormone. And then on the other teeter-totter is stress hormone and insulin. And so now when those happen, now you start going towards diabetes over time. Because if your cortisol is always being stimulated, then your blood sugar is always rising. And your body is a system of checks and balances. So it releases insulin to buffer that. And then over a lifetime, you get insulin resistance. And, you know, but that, I am the first one to say that I don't think, and I know that people are going to be like, this doc's crazy.

But I'll say this. I don't know for sure if our diet is the number one cause of diabetes. Interesting. You think it's light? I think that it is pesticides like glyphosate and EMF and environmental toxicity that is raising our cortisol constantly because we don't eat all day, but we're bombarded by. EMFs and pesticides all day, and that's a constant cortisol need, and that's a constant insulin need, and then that's inflammation. And that is what breaks us down, and diabetes ensues. Now, bad diet's going to accelerate that significantly. And it's not like, I'm not saying diet's

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We know for a fact that diabetes is also being driven by diet. Like we just know that it is. For sure. So that's like irrefutable. But this is a different aspect that's really cool that I've never heard. And I mean, look, it makes sense. We're just now starting to learn about how light affects us. We're like just in the brink of all of this.

And we're on the brink because it's been just like stuffed away for so long. But Nicola Tesla and Einstein and these people and Royal Rife, these people knew this 100 years ago. And if we would have listened to them and actually didn't really, you know, I would say that it was a lot of corruption behind the scenes. If that didn't exist, we would be so much further ahead in so many facets of life, especially health, if these people's concepts were brought to, you know, mainstream. stream. Yes. Yeah. Wow. It's so interesting. It's just really, it's so cool how I see all these themes that happen with the podcast and also just in my daily life with people that I have interactions with because I meet a lot of amazing people that are super into health. Yeah. And so many people are talking about light now. So many. At its core. Everything, like I said,

that is breaking us down is interrupting our frequencies and light is frequency. Yeah. That's really fascinating. I want to go a little different direction. I told you this earlier, but something that I'm really intrigued about is I heard you say actually on another podcast that gallblatters are maybe the most underrated organ or how would you put that? So basically we hear all the time, oh, you don't really need a gallbladder. It's fine. Like they remove them, I think, maybe more often than they probably should. Tell us about that. Yeah, I say that it's the most missed organ in medicine. Yeah. And it's this little sack that connects to your liver and into your small intestine and it holds bile and bile is produced by the liver and it gets into the gallbladder

and the gallbladder concentrates it like 20 times and basically what bile is is like a soap detergent it's breaking down emulsifying fats for you but it also is antimicrobial so it will prevent you know things like h pylori overgrowth parasites you know things like that um it's how we get rid of fungus It's how we get rid of estrogen, which estrogen feeds fungus, right? And so to think that this little, like God designed our body perfect. I don't know if anyone would ever refute that. We're perfectly designed. And so everything in us is for a purpose.

Gallbladder is like the perfect example of how Western medicine has gone against nature's creation. You know, and it's like they try to play God. And sometimes gallbladder might have to be. removed. Maybe there is a stone lodge that could burst the gallbladder and cause sepsis. Like that's where Western medicine shines. Yeah. And I'm grateful that we have that system, but you can't use those same principles to build your health. It's just the system is not designed for that. And so more times than not, the gallbladder does not need to be removed. And when you do, you're never really solving the root cause of it.

You're like, and this is even if you're lucky, it's imagine there's a fire in your body and the smoke alarm is going off and that smoke alarm is your gallbladder crying for help and then they remove the batteries so it stops crying for help is basically what they're doing by removing your gallbladder but the fire was never put out and sometimes people will get symptomatic relief because it was screaming most times afterwards they're like I'm worse off now you know than I was before or they start gaining a ton of weight because now their hormone picture is different because they can't they're not concentrating bile which is not allowed or not getting all the estrogen to be out of the system.

So let's say somebody had their gallbladder removed. What would be your advice to them? Are there things that they can take, things that they can do to encourage bile production? Digestive enzymes. Okay. Yeah, like ox bile. Like actually taking it.

It's like an artificial gallbladder. Yeah. I'm big on it. I think enzymes are really good. A lot of people in frequency medicine don't like enzymes. Like they'll say that you get dependent on it. Your body stops producing it. I just haven't found that clinically.

That's my own experience. But if you don't have a gallblower, you need something to help you digest emulsify fats. Like, it is what it is. Yeah. What about, I always forget how to pronounce this. Tudka. Yeah, Tudka is a bile acid. Oh, okay.

So yeah, that's exactly what you're doing with it. If somebody has higher levels of inflammation, how would you address that just from a lens of like trying to figure that out? Because this is something that we're trying to figure out with Hector right now. So we're both kind of on this journey of like cleansing our guts, getting all this testing done. And his CRP markers were higher. and I was a little bit shocked by that because I don't really know where to start

as far as like what. CRP is either going to be food sensitivities that he's ingesting or infection. See, I think... And he doesn't... He's not overweight, so it's either going to be like obese, infections,

or food allergy sensitivities that you're consuming. That's what raises CRP. And we're trying to get rid of a psoriasis too, which I think is a gut thing. Infection. Bingo. Parasites fungus. Okay.

Parasus fungus. Trying to think, oh my gosh, There's so many things. I'm definitely going to have to have you come back on because there's so many things I want to ask you about. I feel like that's the thing of frequency medicine is you can take it any which way. You can ask literally anything to see like that's what I built my membership off of is people were drowning information and they're saying this is that, this is that, and they wanted knowledge. And I said, look, I will tell you what I found at frequency medicine.

That's my experience. It's not a textbook thing. You're not going to always read about it. But this is what I've found to help people who are struggling with that. And that's it. That's the fun of frequency medicine, too, is you start finding stuff out that you just challenge of what you learn. Like, I learned this at a functional med seminar.

And then I go in clinic and it's like it worked on one out of ten people. That's not good enough for me. So why is the research saying that this is what it should be, but then it's really not clinically. And it's two totally different things. So it's always a fun conversation. It's so cool. I mean, this is so fascinating. I'm loving this episode so much.

Let's talk a little bit about EMFs. This is something that I have not talked about too much on the podcast. Well, let's just start where, what are they? Because every time I talk about them, I get all these questions and people saying, I don't even know what that is. Yeah, so the big thing with EMF is people say it's non-ionizing radiation, so it has no biological effect on us, which is completely false. It's completely false.

So it's part of the light spectrum, right? And the non-naturally call them NNEMFs because the sun is EMF, the laser is EMF. like we are EMF. And that's why it affects us so much because it has such a biological effect on us. And so with us, how I explain it is that our electromagnetics are kind of like the ocean. The waves should come in.

You should go out very steady. Whereas man-made EMF is unidirectional, one-way bombarding 50 billion times faster than what our waves need to be. And so it just really disrupts our frequencies. Like at the basis, that's it in a nutshell. There's 5G. There's Bluetooth.

There's cell towers. There's geopathic stress. Wi-Fi. Our phones, our iPads. All of it. All of them at EMFs. The one question I'll always say, and if people have heard me talk before, they've heard me say this, is whenever we're trying to improve society, and EMF is one of the biggest ones because technology is everything, at what cost to our health. Yeah.

And not too many things can pass that question. Like, any improvement usually has something that affects our biologic. chemistry because we're the cream of the crop genetically. Like everyone who's alive today has their ancestors have survived so long kind of thing. But our ancestors never had to live in concrete jungles with EMF all over the place and artificial light. And pesticides. And a lot of this stuff was just introduced in the last 50 years.

That's right. Long-term medications, too. I think about this all the time. Like the birth control pill, when they first designed it, it was only meant to be taken for like a month or two. And now people are on it for 10 years. It's like proton pump inhibitors too for fast reflux. Those too. Statins?

Yep, statins. I mean, it is. It's really wild. Yeah. Okay, that's fascinating. So how concerned are you about EMFs? I mean, it sounds like you're pretty concerned about it. And I have to be really, really frank and honest with you.

EMFs is one of those things where I believe that they're causing harm. I know that they are. But it's so overwhelming to even address it that it's one of those things where I'm like, kind of just have to pray and let live. because like I don't want to live in a bubble. Yep. I want a podcast. I'm with you on that.

I'm with you on that. Right? Like it's like I don't know what else I can do. I mean, I feel like I'm doing the best that I can. But I'm also, a lot of people unplug their Wi-Fi at night. I haven't even gotten to that point yet. I unplug mine every night. You do?

Yeah, I have grounding bags in our house. I have an SRT optimizer on me right now, which helps with the MF, another frequency device. Maybe we need to get one of those. They're great. But is the mental stress of it worse than the actual effects? That's the question. And like, control the controllables. Yeah.

We were talking about how we've been looking at homes. We have been under contract twice in the last six months with homes. And the first home we walked away from because the EMF was too bad in the neighborhood. Oh, they had like a 5G tower. It's a great location neighborhood. And they had all the towers that go around the neighborhood. I have a really good electrician in Nashville who used to work for the government. And then the government was teaching that with EMS,

EMF, you have to make sure that it's not affecting other technologies around it, but they never talked about the human interaction with it. And so it made him think, well, if we're being taught that this is, this device is going to affect these devices over here, what's it doing to us? And he went down the rabbit hole and became more of like an EMF electrician expert. And so I've had him for both houses do his testing. It takes like six hours, like a ton. Wow.

And the first one, we shut off everything in the home and there's still a magnetic field under the home from the neighborhood. And we walked. Yeah. So like that, I'm walking away from. I can control that. For sure. Because you can control that. I can control that.

Yeah. I can unplug my Wi-Fi, you know, but like I'm on my phone. I know. I'm not going to live life. I'm not going to let the mental stress of it really destroy me. I'm going to do the best I can with the information that I have. Yeah. Because a lot of times people who are just chronic warriors, your immune system follows your

emotions. Yeah. So even if you are living. in clean air, you're living in no EMF in your environment, at least manmade, all natural EMFs are good, even if you are eating clean and all this stuff, but you're freaking out about chem trails above and whatever is out of your control, you're still going to be sick. I know. I know. And those people really stress me out because I'll get these people DMing me like, oh my God, the EMF's in that and you're flying all the time. The EMMF and I'm just like, stop.

You're stressing me out. I can't. Like, you're, you are probably making yourself sick because you are trying to live in a bubble. And I refuse. I just refuse. That's right. To let that, like, stress me out. I think that was one of the main reasons why I didn't want to do Instagram was because

there's a lot of that energy on Instagram and social. Sure. And I'm just like to, I'm not a hand holder. Yeah, me neither. I'm the first person to be like, just, just chill out, please. Like, just chill. Go on vacation. Drink your coffee.

If that makes you, do something to get you out of this mental loop because it's driving you nuts and it's going to drive me nuts. Yes, and I don't want to talk about it with you. It's like, it's like the way that I approach it is I control the controllables. Like you said, I do the absolute best that I can and then I just live and let live and I just give it to God because like I don't know what else to do, you know? And I don't want to live in a mental prison. I don't want to be freaking out about living in life and I don't want to live in a bubble. So it's just, yeah, I think it's, and I think it's important for people to hear that. In your time of practicing, Do you have a really cool, fun story that you're allowed to tell of somebody that maybe came in that was really sick and you were able to find them healing?

I have so many. I'm not saying that from ego, but I've had some really cool experiences. If I think, the first one that comes to my mind was when I was in California, we used to do this health class. And the health class was Q&A. And this is basically me doing this health class is what helped me create my Instagram and members. because it's just every Wednesday night for seven years, there can be 50 people in the room. I would sit in the hot seat and everyone we'd provide dinner.

They can ask me any question they want about health. Cool. And it was fun. At the time I wasn't a huge fan because the day was from like 9 a.m. I wouldn't get home to like 10 p.m. It's just an exhausting day. But in hindsight, I'm like, there's the most magic happening in those classes because these people would come in and by the end of the night,

they were strangers, but by the night they were all in it together. They were like, this is empowering, you know? You know, and so one of the things is if you ask the question, you can be a demo. And we showed a structural demo, a chemical demo, an emotional demo with muscle testing to show them. This is what it's going to kind of look like when you come in as a patient. And this lady came in from Catalina Island. And I used her as the emotional demo. And we did one emotional clearing.

I don't even remember what it was. One emotional clearing. And she came in like two and a half weeks later and she brought four pages worth of how her life changed since that one 30 second clearing. Wow. That one always sticks with me for some reason. It's just so like, and I was telling you, I was with a friend of mine last night doing dinner, and she was telling me about this great story where she helped this person with emotions who was going through cancer, and he had passed away, but he had put her in his will because of how profound the last four months was of his life with it. And it's like, we do this stuff all day.

It's very easy to take for granted how powerful this stuff truly is. And then when you sit back and like you have experiences like that, you're like, you made a mark on someone's life that's like priceless. Yes. You know what I mean? I mean, and that's what it's all about, right? This is my assumption would be is why you got into this is there's a desire to help people and lessen suffering. And so when you're able to actually do that for somebody, I mean, it is. It's truly remarkable. It's really cool. It's so gratifying. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of my favorites. Oh, I love that. There's been many, but that one is just always profound to me. And it's a good reminder that our emotional trauma and our emotional well-being and mental

well-being are things that have not always been priority. I think in society in addressing them, and it's a reminder that it's so incredibly important that we do need to address those things. It's part of the triad of health, structural-chemical emotional. Is there anything else that we haven't gone over that you feel like is really important for people to hear. I mean, I guess maybe we did talk about vaping. Maybe we touch on that for a second because I have a lot of friends. Actually, I don't have a ton of friends. I have some acquaintances that I know that when I see them sometimes and they have a vape with them, I'm just like, what are you doing? So vaping is kind of like the how we just said that I'm not great at holding hands for people, right? Like vaping is one

where if someone's like, well, I like it and, you know, I'm going to keep doing it or whatever, and it can't be that bad for me. I'm like, it's terrible for you. It's cut with chemicals, and I'm not going to talk any more about it with you. Like, it's an absolute no. Nope. Done. Don't even get an energy. I'm, this might be a little controversial, but I think they're worse than cigarettes. I would rather somebody smoke a cigarette than a vape. For sure. And let me be clear. I'm not condone smoking cigarettes because I know how people, that's going to be taken. I know how people cut that. Yeah. But yeah. Continuous.

I mean, it's, cigarettes is the same thing as like back in the day in Native American culture, like, nicotine and tobacco. Yeah, and coyote and like all that stuff that they were doing. Antoxidants, brainpower, but big tobacco cut the filters of cigarettes with toxins and then cut the tobacco with toxins. And vapes are the new age of that. They're cutting it with chemicals to make it whatever shelf stable, whatever it is. I'm not an expert on it because I don't even dabble in that. but I can tell you that when I've muscle tested it on people, it's like a very low frequency. Oof.

Well, and it's creating this new disease that they're calling popcorn lung. Yep, yep, yep, yep. That really scares me, and people are getting it like crazy now, I guess, and they're getting it pretty fast, too, is what I heard. Yeah. I mean, think about they're doing that, they're breathing in pesticides, they're eating pesticides, they're around EMF, which then just can exacerbate all of that and exacerbate mold, because mold grows six, hundred times faster in the presence of EMF. So it's like you have all these things.

And again, someone's going to listen to that and be like, I need to be bubble boy or whatever. And it's like you don't, you just have at least do the basics and have at least a gut feeling of this is good for me or not good for me. Exactly. Let's not make it more complicated than it has to be. Exactly. You don't have to live in a bubble, but just prioritize eating whole real foods, get good sleep at

night. Yeah. Read labels. Just read the label on what you're buying at the food store. Exactly. Like it doesn't have to be that hard and complicated. That's right. It's just the really, it's also the, I think we have overcomplicated this.

It's very, very simple. Go for walks. Get outside. Go in nature. Get sunlight. Go to bed at a decent hour. Eat good food. Prioritize eating whole nutritious, real foods.

Drink enough water. Like, it is so simple. Yep. And it's become so complicated. And to be fair, we've made it really hard in society. Yeah. But it's just about coming back to the very, very basics of all of this. And just remembering that you don't have to overcomplicate it.

And don't smoke. Yeah, that's right. It's just easy. It's just easy. Yeah, very easy. The first frequency med seminar I ever took was in the summer of 2013. And on day one, they said, no matter what people come in with, the harder their cases, the more you have to get back to the basics.

Makes sense. It's true. Yeah. So true. Well, and I love it too when I meet people that are so new to all of this. I think of my in-laws and some of my newer family, introducing them all this new stuff. Like, it's cool to see them be like, oh, really? It's like that simple.

Right. You know, like, oh, it doesn't have to be so complicated because I think so many people think, oh, it's going to be this crazy uphill battle and I'm going to be eating bland chicken every day with no seasoning and, like, bodybuilder food, like broccoli and just bland chicken. And I'm like, no, you can eat an array of amazing, really delicious food. And it doesn't have to be that hard. And it doesn't have to be that expensive. A lot of people are like, I can't afford to eat that way.

But like you can if you really like buy grass-fed ground beef and make dishes and stuff like that. Like it's not that much more expensive. It really isn't. It's not. I think where people start getting into the expenses of all of it is when they're buying all the powders, like the protein powders and the collagens and the packaged foods, the, you know, not to call them out. I love simple mills and siettes and all of that. And look, I love all of that. And if you have the budget for it, great.

But you don't need to be buying all that excess stuff. If you just go and you focus on the real simple basics, it's actually really not that much more expensive either. 100%. What's something you see every day in your practice that would blow most people's minds? Sometimes these are hard to answer too, so I know. That is tricky because everyone is walking a different walk of life. There's not like one thing that everyone has.

Well, there's one thing everyone has emotional trauma. Yeah. By far. Like really putting weight into that, I think, is very, very, very important. Yeah, because everyone, they said, walks a different life, but that's one thing that's consistent is like, even if it wasn't, and here's a good one,

this just came to my mind, and I think this is good is, when someone hears emotional trauma, the first thing they think is like they were physically abused, they were whatever. They lost a sibling like I did, but it doesn't have to be that dramatic. It doesn't have to be that dramatic, exactly.

Like, yes, those things happen for sure. When I was in California, the amount of physical abuses kids, like everyone's like, yeah, when I was a kid, my dad was doing this, my mom was doing this, like was disturbing to me. I'm like, wow, I didn't even know this existed at this level. But if you're like a six-year-old kid,

seven-year-old kid and your parents ground you in that moment, that's everything to you and that's emotional trauma. Yeah. And then your body just keeps storing them. And later in life, you might have a boss who you think is worse than they actually are because they're reminding you of parents grounding you

when you're a seven-year-old child. And so I call Emotions email threads. You have the current email, and then you have the original email. And everything that remind you of that original email just builds over your lifetime until you're able to release it with a physiological correction.

Wow. Okay. Yeah. I love this. I love that we've focused so much on this because I think it's so incredibly important because personally I have been through this and have seen the impacts on my own life. And I am one of those people

that largely ignored it forever. because it's scary too. You don't want to face it. That's right. It's the hardest uphill battle you'll ever climb. It's the most rewarding thing you can ever do for your body. Truly. Oh, I love this.

I love this episode so much. This is so great. Well, please let everybody know where they can find you. Yeah. I just went back to my original DR Charlie, D.C. I used to be 2.0 because my original one got shadow ban for vaccines. Yeah. So I took back the original username.

and then DR Charlie DC.com has my membership and all my knowledge information in a digital library. We do Red Pillier Healthcast. We have a podcast. You should come on our podcast. I would love that. Yeah, let's do it. We'll do that. And we just talk the truth on there. And yeah, that's pretty much the only thing I'm on is Instagram. I don't really do much else. Yeah. And everybody, go follow him. You're such a great follow. I found you. I think it was during COVID. I was trying to remember, but I'm pretty sure it was during COVID because you were talking about the COVID vaccines, right? It was probably just after, because I started doing social media in 2021, like the end of 2021. That makes sense because for some reason I feel like I found you around like 2022. Yeah.

Yeah. So that would make sense. Okay. Cool. Well, everybody give them a follow. You give great advice on there. And what I love so much about your account is you talk about a lot of stuff that I haven't seen a lot of other people in the wellness world and doctors really talk about an address. It's cool.

You go into different areas. I think the reason why that is is because I, was still treating patients. And so I'm talking through experiences, not like what research studies are saying. Yes. And I'm all for research. Like it has a purpose.

It is absolutely not even close to my gold standard by far. Because if research really worked, people wouldn't need doctors because all the research should be true. Well, and there's also that stat that it takes about 17 years on average for the research to catch up with what they're like practicing. And that's 17 years that you could have have had a parasite that was causing you autoimmune, whatever it might be. Exactly. And so, you know, some people will disagree on that, but it's just what I find.

Well, I mean, you're quite literally on the front lines and you're seeing all this, and you're treating real life people that are actually dealing with these sorts of issues. So it's really important. And that's what the membership was really birth off of because I started getting 30,000 people on my wait list, and I couldn't see anyone. And so I'm like, all right, well, I'll just do, I'll rent a studio. I actually started out of my spare bedroom in my house. and I'll do a video each week of whatever topics you want to hear about,

and I'll do deep dyes for you, and then you can do whatever you want with it. That is so cool. And how can people join the membership on your website? Yeah, just through Instagram. Okay. Through Instagram, and it's, you know, I made it $10 a week. Like, it's not expensive.

Yeah, that's awesome. And we have a community, a private Facebook group, where thousands of members just talk all day long of what helped them, what didn't help them. I knew people were drowning in information, starving for knowledge, and they were lacking community. Yeah.

So how could I bring that was I can do deep dives and topics people want to hear about. I do a weekly Q&A on Zoom with people. And then I created the Facebook group so that people can actually, maybe they live in the same cities as each other and they can actually meet because it feels like an island for a lot of people when they dive into this stuff and their friends aren't on the same page. Their families aren't on the same page. Like it's definitely, it can feel lonely.

And so I tried to create something that would fill that void, so to speak. Well, I think about too, especially, I get messages from people all the time, and they're like, hey, I'm in this really small town and, you know, middle of nowhere. And I can't find a doctor that practices this way. And I don't know how to get help. So it's so cool that we have the Internet now and people have access to stuff like this because if they're not living in like L.A. or Austin or somewhere that's really dialed in with this kind of stuff, they can still have access to it. 100%. Yeah, it's so cool. Yeah, it's great.

Well, thank you so much for everything that you're doing. I'm glad we made this happen. Me too years in the making. I know. I know. This is so great. And I think my audience is going to love this. And yeah, so thank you so much for coming on.

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