Realfoodology - Weight Loss Myths, Healthy Swaps & Grocery Store Hacks | Health With Hunter

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

277: Hunter Stoler of Health With Hunter is here! He and I are like kindred spirits - we love talking about all things nutrition and clean food. Today we’re breaking down myths about weight loss, ch...olesterol and fat, and explaining what to look for on your next grocery haul to prioritize simple, clean ingredients.  Topics Discussed: → What are the most effective diet and weight-loss strategies that work long-term? → How do calories and food quality impact sustainable weight loss? → What are the biggest cholesterol myths? → Which grocery store hacks and healthy swaps make clean eating easier and more affordable? → What foods should you avoid at the grocery store? Sponsored By: → Cowboy Colostrum | For a limited time, my listeners get up to 25% off their entire order! Head to https://www.cowboycolostrum.com/realfoodology and use code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout. → Function Health | Function is the new standard of health, and my first 1,000 listeners get a $100 credit toward their membership. Visit https://www.functionhealth.com/realfoodology or use gift code REALFOODOLOGY100 at sign up to own your health. → Beekeeper’s Naturals | Beekeeper’s Naturals is giving my listeners EXCLUSIVE EARLY ACCESS to their Black Friday Sale! Go to https://www.beekeepersnaturals.com/realfoodology or enter code REALFOODOLOGY to get 30% off sitewide. → Everyday Dose | Get 61% off your first Coffee+ Starter Kit, a free A2 Probiotic Creamer, with over $100 in free gifts by going to https://www.everydaydose.com/REALFOODOLOGY or entering REALFOODOLOGY at checkout. → MASA | Go to https://www.masachips.com/realfoodology and use code REALFOODOLOGY for 25% off your first order. MASA is also available nationwide at your local Sprouts supermarket! → Timeline | Go to https://www.timeline.com/realfoodology for 10% off your order of Mitopure! → Manukora | Head to https://www.manukora.com/realfoodology to get $150 off your first order with their Black Friday Starter Kit, which comes with an MGO 850+ Manuka Honey jar, 35 honey travel sticks, a wooden spoon and a guidebook! Timestamps:  → 00:00:00 - Introduction  → 00:04:20 - Diet, Weight Loss & Genetics  → 00:09:01 - Why Calories Matter  → 00:13:41 - Food Swaps + Healthier Hacks  → 00:22:20 - Understanding Ingredients  → 00:27:11 - The Truth About Fat  → 00:34:19 - Community, Health, & Grocery Store Hacks  → 00:39:40 - Cholesterol Myths  → 00:42:33 - Health Is Your Wealth  → 00:47:20 - Tips + Swaps for Better Health  → 00:53:29 - What to Avoid at the Grocery Store  → 00:59:20 - Snacks, Creamers, & Meals Check Out Hunter: → Instagram  → TikTok → YouTube Check Out Courtney:  →  LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE →  Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide! →  @realfoodology →  www.realfoodology.com →  My Immune Supplement by 2x4 →  Air Dr Air Purifier →  AquaTru Water Filter →  EWG Tap Water Database Produced By: Drake Peterson

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's episode of the Real Foodology podcast, there is a healthier, better for you swap out there. And that does not mean healthy for weight loss. It just means a healthier alternative when it comes to ingredients, which could help you feel better. Welcome back to the Real Foodology podcast. I'm joined by my dear friend Hunter Stoller, also known as Health with Hunter on Instagram, to talk about how he went from weighing 225 pounds in college to building a lifestyle centered around real nourishing food. Hunter is a great example and guide for tackling non-toxic living in every aspect of your life. From grocery shopping tips to clean air in your home,
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Starting point is 00:01:00 is bad and why sugar, not healthy fats, is the real driver of disease. This episode is all about ditching the diet confusion, taking ownership of your health, and making real food simple again. Thanks for listening. Please take a moment to rate and review it. A five-star review takes about five seconds and it really does help the show. And if you love this particular episode, please make sure to post about it on Instagram and tag me and at Health with Hunter so that we see it and we can reshare you. Thank you so much for listening. Cold and flu season is upon us, and I have something in my back pocket that I always bring out during the winter just to make sure that my immune system is really bolstered. I love colostrum. In fact, my mom got me on colostrum
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Starting point is 00:03:32 your hormones, toxins, and inflammation. That's five times more than the average annual physical with no gatekeeping or long wait times. You can also add on an MRI and CT scans that look for signs of hundreds of conditions. Traditional healthcare can leave you with more questions than answers, and that's why Function is amazing. If you want to learn more and join using my link, Function is the new standard of health, and my first 1,000 followers or listeners will get a $100 credit toward their membership. Visit Functionhealth.com slash real foodology or use gift code Real Foodology 100 at sign up to own your health today. Hunter, I'm so excited that you're coming on the Real Foodology podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I am so happy to be here. I mean, I've been a listener for years, and I was just telling you before this, that I listened on long car rides to your lectures and your other podcasts, and it's crazy to be here. Oh, my gosh. I can't believe that meant so much to me. Thank you so much for listening. Yeah, sometimes you do the podcast, and I like, not forget,
Starting point is 00:04:36 but it's just cool when you actually meet people before you knew them, that they actually listen to your podcast. I was really touched by that. Thank you. So I want everybody to hear. You have a really cool story about losing 50 pounds and you did it in a really sustainable way and a super healthy way. Can you tell people what you did? Yeah, absolutely. So I used to be 225 pounds and that was in college. And it's crazy because I never really thought it was a problem until it became a problem when my acne got out of control. I was always fatigued and I always had brain fog. And I thought that was how humans were supposed to feel. And then it wasn't until COVID when it was right before Thanksgiving, so 2019, right before we were locked down. And it wasn't until then when my mom and sister kindly nudged me at the Thanksgiving table and were like, Hunter, like your plate. It was a mountain of all the carbs. There was barely any protein, maybe like one slice of turkey. And then I'd fill up my plate with all dessert and maybe one piece of like watermelon because I was trying to be balanced.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And that really like shook me up internally and woke me up. And then I actually started losing weight just by becoming more aware of not ingredients, but portion control. And I did weight washers at the very beginning. And that easily helped me shed 25 pounds in two months. And it's crazy because when you go from being, living the life that you live in a toxic or just a way where you're not aware of anything to then being aware of portions, your extra fat will melt off of you. And it's crazy. And obviously, as you lose more weight, it gets not harder and harder, but it gets slower and slower and slow. and you might have to make more changes, but at the beginning, going from a lifestyle where I didn't
Starting point is 00:06:13 care about nutrition or fitness or anything when it came to health, and I thought that was like the normal to the way that I lived a few years ago and also now, it's truly crazy. And then I lost my last 25 pounds through F Factor, which is a low carb, high protein, higher fiber diet. And I've been able to sustain them because it has been something that is very sustainable and I love the way that I eat and drink and exercise now. And it really needs to be a lifestyle. It can't just be a fan diet. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's such a great point. It has to be something that you love. I tell people all the time, you can't just force yourself to do workouts that you hate because then over time you won't do them anymore. You won't hold yourself accountable. You have to find
Starting point is 00:06:54 things that you love. And the same thing goes for food. If you hate the things that you eat and you're choking down broccoli and steamed chicken every day, you're going to get sick of it and you're going to freak out and you're just going to go and binge. And that's why there's so many different protein sources along with vegetables and fruits. You could choose the ones that you like just because you see someone that you look up to and admire eating kale every day. Does that mean that you need to eat kale? There's many options. Yeah, exactly. And we actually talked about this yesterday and I thought it was such a good point to bring up is that a lot of people will try to emulate and do exactly what somebody else is doing that they see online. But you forget
Starting point is 00:07:28 that, I mean, there's so many different factors, right? Like genetics does play a little bit of a role here. But also more importantly, you don't actually know what that person's eating behind closed doors. Absolutely. And when it comes to genetics, that's something that I used to believe until a few years ago when I realized it myself, I know a lot of people whose families, everyone is overweight. And I'd say, oh, they must have the fat gene. The fat gene runs in their family. What I've realized, though, is so much more than that is you adopt the same eating habits as those you surround yourself with, whether it's friends or family members. If your parents are bringing KFC, McDonald's and Chick-Fly home every single day, you're going to be.
Starting point is 00:08:02 eating the same food as them unless you're an anomaly at a huge outlier where you make your own food, but that's not the case for 99% of people. And you eat the same as your family, especially when you're in middle school and high school and you still live at home. And you're going to result in the same way as them unless you make a change because change does require change. Exactly. I know. I'm glad you brought that up because I do hate, I think that we're seeing this more and more that there's such a blame on genetics. In fact, do you remember when a couple years ago the, I forgot if she was the CEO or somebody like really high up at Nova Nordics that is Zympic. And she went on 60 minutes and she said, oh, it's all genetics. It has nothing to do with
Starting point is 00:08:39 diet and lifestyle. It has everything to do with genetics. That could not be further from the truth. And as time goes on, that continues to get disproven more and more. Yeah. Like short genetics could play a role. However, what do they say? Genetics loads a gun and your diet and lifestyle pulls the trigger. Yes. And that cannot be more true. It's so true. Crazy. Something else that you brought up that I want to talk about because, you know, there's this, there's almost this, like, infighting that happens between the, like, fitness world, like, maybe the more like gym bros and then the more like, I guess you can call them like crunchy almond moms, where people say that ingredients only matter, quality only matters, and then people say, like, calories don't matter at all. I know you and I are the same. We both live in the middle where we feel like calories do matter, and they matter a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And we were just talking about this yesterday, too. And it's so funny because Courtney and I both love talking about this stuff, so we could talk about it on camera and off camera and we'll love it. And that is so true because eating healthy does not equal eating healthy for weight loss or fat loss. You could have all of the avocado and extra virgin olive oil straight from grease and all of the healthy foods in the world. You could eat grass-fed steaks all day. But if you're eating six, seven thousand calories a day, you are going to gain weight.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And it's not going to be muscle. it's going to be mostly body fat. And there is, again, finding that middle ground between being aware of your calories and your caloric intake and also ingredient quality, where people could find that balance. And again, it comes down to portion control of those more calorically dense foods. And that is a place where you and I both like to live and that's sort of just the way that we operate. Yeah, exactly. Like for me, and I want to hear how you address this. So for me, I'm just aware. I don't count calories. I hate living in that world. I remember. being in high school and being so obsessed with like counting calories and checking every single
Starting point is 00:10:31 macro and I don't to me that's living in a prison I hate it yes but I'm relatively aware of how much I'm consuming on a day-to-day basis like I kind of know about how much like a tablespoon or two of peanut butter looks like when I'm making my smoothies so I kind of just like eyeball it and I kind of just think about it as I go throughout the day or I'm like okay this seems like a good amount of portion and then if I'm really hungry I'll eat more but I focus on more I focus more of it. And I focus a lot on protein, getting healthy fats, getting fiber, getting my greens in. And then that keeps me really satiated and full. And so then I don't feel like I'm like chasing snacks all day and just starving all the time. Yes, we are the exact same. And what I will
Starting point is 00:11:09 say is as I've helped over 400 men and women lose weight and just become healthier versions of themselves, the biggest thing is a lot of people don't know where to begin. Tracking could be incredibly helpful at the very beginning for someone, including me when I was starting a few years ago and you need to track if you're going from, I am eating perfectly and I'm eating healthy and my meals are balanced, but I'm not losing weight. That means that your portions are not right in something. You might be adding, you might think you're adding one tablespoon of peanut butter into your smoothie, but it could be five or six. And people don't realize that. Like those nut butter, if you have a clean ingredient nut butter where it's just organic nuts and
Starting point is 00:11:44 salts, that's it. Nothing else should be in your peanut butter or almond butter. You need to still be aware of the portions. Like peanut butter is one of the most colorically dense foods given the size, you know? And one little thumb of or tablespoon of peanut butter could have a hundred, well, it does have 100 to 200 calories. And that doesn't mean you need to avoid it. It just means you need to be aware of how much you're putting in. So at the beginning of a weight loss journey, I recommend all my clients and followers who DM me saying they're struggling. You need to find your caloric deficit number in a sustainable way. And you need to eat around that number every single day in a order to lose around half a pound to two pounds a week. Yeah. Where do you feel like people trip up a lot?
Starting point is 00:12:25 Or maybe where did you trip up a lot in the beginning? Yeah. So at the very beginning, I think weekends is a place where a lot of people slip up and then they say diet starts over on Monday. And it's all breaking that habit. I mean, I know cutting alcohol out is not something that a lot of people are able to do or want to do. And I think that's completely okay. Everyone has different levels. I haven't had a drink in a long time. And it's not something that I'm like upset about. It's something that I choose to do. It doesn't have to do with my weight or health. It's just I feel like crap. And especially the morning after, I'll feel like crap. If a time comes soon where I'm like, I want a glass of high quality red or white wine, I will have it. But the days of hard liquor
Starting point is 00:13:05 are over for me pretty much right now at this point of my life. But alcohol leads to a lot of overeating and munchies late at night. Same with smoking. I mean, People are obsessed with, you know, eating an entire bag of chips or two and a pint of ice cream that could be 1,200 calories and 100 grams of sugar and all awful ingredients that are awful for you. And then they start over on Monday. They eat healthy Monday through Thursday. And then Friday and Saturday, they are a monster and they're ravenous and eat everything
Starting point is 00:13:33 in sight. And at the end, it either balances each other out when you're trying to lose weight. And then you go in a caloric surplus on the weekends. And it's all about finding that middle ground. and it's all about setting up, setting yourself up for success. Maybe if you know you're going out on Friday or Saturday night, you make sure that you have a portion snack. This is what I used to do in college when I was trying to lose weight.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I remember I would have a portioned. I forgot if it was a single serve bag or I would make single serve bags in like a little Ziploc bag of like popcorn next to my bed and maybe like one serving of chocolate chips. And instead of it being a 3,000 calorie dessert late at night at 2 in the morning, it would be a 200 calorie dessert. And that is something that requires discipline and willpower, but there's no excuses. Like, you could do it if you want to.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and you start finding those little tips and tricks and foods that you like, like the popcorn and the chocolate chips that you did. It's all about finding what works for you. I know another one that I love. I mean, I still do this all the time, is I'll get Cocoa June, coconut yogurt, which is my favorite. You love it. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 00:14:35 It's so good. And I add a scoop of protein to it. And depending on which protein powder you use, it makes it taste like a chocolate pudding. if I add this like specific chocolate. Yeah, and I'm a big yogurt person. I love my Greek yogurt. And that still isn't enough for me. As someone who's 175 to 180 pounds, like 16 grams of protein is not enough for me
Starting point is 00:14:55 in like a little yogurt bowl if I'm adding like berries on top. So I mix in a scoop of a high quality protein powder and it adds 20 to 25 more grams of protein. And for everyone who says Greek yogurt tastes too tardy, I say add a scoop of your vanilla, chocolate, strawberry, whatever flavored protein powder. that is good ingredients in, and you just fix that problem. And if you don't like peanut butter, if you don't like protein powder, add in a scoop of peanut butter, and it turns it into like a peanut buttery yogurt, and you're
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Starting point is 00:18:15 I bought the powdered peanut butter and there's an organic one I talk about it all the time and that is a sneaky area too because peanuts are very susceptible to mold especially when they're not organic and you there are peanut butter powders out there that might look amazing on the front they're like double the protein half the calories whatever but it's still could have palm oil and it still could have cane sugar in it. So I love a brand that is just organic peanut powder. That is it. And then if you want to sweet in it, what I do all the time is sometimes when I want peanut
Starting point is 00:18:43 butter, but I don't want all the calories, I'll make my yogurt bowl. And then in a little cup or bowl on the side, I'll do one or two servings of the peanut powder because it's only like 60 calories a serving. Add a quarter teaspoon of monk fruit in there powder and then a little bit of salt. And then you mix it together. It turns into like a, and water. And it turns into like a thick. peanut butter, a real peanut butter that is so much higher in protein, so much lowering calories,
Starting point is 00:19:09 and it is just like the best topping. That sounds so good. Okay, so something I see you make all the time online, and I feel like you do this a lot for breakfast, is you do the creamy, like protein ice cream, basically. Talk about that because I think there's this misconception that I want us to both dive into right now that eating healthy is boring and doesn't taste good. Yeah, so that's the biggest misconception on planet earth. If you're having steamed chicken and broccoli and a little bit of white rice, that's what I call boring every single night. But we're so lucky now that more companies and people are waking up to cleaner ingredients. And we have the most amazing sauces, condiments, maranades, whether it's terriaki, barbecue, even like ketchup. And there's just so many different
Starting point is 00:19:50 options now where eating healthy does not need to be boring. And so many people think you need to eat the same thing every single day. I say, like, whether it's a protein ice cream, or a yogurt bowl or ground beef, there are so many different ways to flavor it, season it, top it. You could do a different protein powder if you're doing a smoothie. You could mix up your fruit. You can mix up your milk. Go from almond to coconut to cashew milk or whole milk, whatever it is. And even with coffees, there's so many different creamers that are better for you out there that every single day as time goes on when we go to a store, Whole Foods, Target, anywhere, there are so many better for your products coming into those stores every single week.
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Starting point is 00:20:51 So good. And I know you love coconut milk too. But you need to read the ingredients to make sure it doesn't have additives, which, There are many that don't. And then I usually do a little bit of salt, either Baja or Redmond salt or do you know Vera salt? They're really good micropastic-free brand. And they have the best shaker, you know, like the salt grinder.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Theirs is like so smooth and it's just so nice. I love theirs. Oh, I need to get that. Okay. You do. I forgot where I got it out of the store in New York. And then I do a serving of protein powder, maybe a little cinnamon or pumpkin spice powder depending on the flavor.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And you freeze it overnight. And then you put it in the ninja creamie the next day, you spin it twice, and you have yourself like basically a pint of high protein ice cream that is, it's basically a smoothie in ice cream form. So it takes longer to eat, and you could top it with whatever you want, and it is incredible. Oh, my God. And if you use a clean protein powder and you use just really simple whole food ingredients, if you're on maybe a weight loss journey, you could do monk fruit instead of doing like honey or maple syrup, which honestly I would do anyways just to balance out blood sugar. then you have a healthy, quote-unquote, ice cream that's full of protein, satiating, and we'll keep you
Starting point is 00:22:00 full for hours. I have followers and clients who do that every single night as dessert, and it is the best. You build it into your day, build it into your calorie deficit if you're tracking calories, and you can make the most delicious ice cream that's good for you and packed with protein for under 300 calories. Oh my God, that's so awesome. Yeah. So we've talked a lot about calories and how they can really make a difference, but why also,
Starting point is 00:22:22 because again, like I mentioned earlier, there's this almost like fight. between the like gym bros and then the healthy, I hate to say, but it's like, you know, the crunchy, whatever almond moms you want to call them. So there's this infighting where people say like, oh, no, it's calories only or no, the quality really matters. And oh, I'm only worried about macros. Why does the quality and the ingredients also matter, which is what our entire pages are based off. So when I was losing weight, something that I didn't realize was not normal is I had so much acne. I went on acutane twice. And I don't even know if you knew that in ninth grade. And in my sophomore year of college, when I was,
Starting point is 00:22:55 I was losing weight. And both times, my acne slowly came back. And I don't want to say it got worse, but I just got back to its original state where I was like uncomfortable and very uncomfortable leaving the house. And it was painful as well. And switching my ingredients, stopping, stopping cooking with soybean oil and refined vegetable oils and just being aware of what I was putting into my body, getting rid of all the artificial dyes that was in all the cereals that I was eating every single night, all of the refined added sugar, it makes such a difference for how you feel. You could have, putting it in perspective, there's the influencer I follow. I forgot his name, and he has his podcast, and he was talking about the Twinkie diet.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And if your calorie deficit is 1,800 calories, let's say you're supposed to eat 1,800 calories after doing your calculation to lose a pound of fat a week, and if you're eating 1,800 calories of Twinkies every single day, not going over that at all, you are going to lose weight. But are you going to lose fat, or are you going to lose muscle? because Twinkies are, the macros are horrific, it's all carbs and sugar and fat, and there's no protein in it. You don't lose weight, but you're going to feel awful, you're going to feel weaker, and you are going to just feel like crap. Whereas obviously, if you're eating 1,800 calories of grass-fed proteins, pasturized chicken, and fruits and vegetables and filling it up with a nutrient-dense diet made of simple ingredients, pretty much one ingredient foods, you are going to feel so much better on top of the world, you're going to maintain your muscle, you're going to lose body fat, and you're going to look better as a result.
Starting point is 00:24:27 It's not only about the number on the scale. It's also about, you know, the composition, your water weight compared to your fat compared to your muscle. And when it comes to macros, I'm not the biggest macro tracker. Like, I don't need to go that crazy, especially at this stage. And I don't think beginners do either. I think calories and protein matter so much. And as long as those are in check, you don't need to stress so much about the macros.
Starting point is 00:24:49 But it all comes down to how you want to feel. You could lose weight eating skittles all day. But are you going to want to eat skittles all day? Some people might, which is a little concerning, but you're going to feel and look awful. Not only that, but you will be starving all the time. This is what I feel like people don't understand in this part of the argument is when you're eating those low nutrient-dense foods,
Starting point is 00:25:11 your body, your cells are quite literally starving for nutrients. And I just think about like, I mean, I don't even know if I've ever had a Twinkie in my life, but like I just think about when I would eat those like ultra-processed foods, I would be starving like 30 minutes later because it's, really fast glucose that goes through your body really quickly, and it doesn't satiate you or keep you full. Yeah, and that's the restaurant trick as well, which is why restaurants give you bread as soon as you get down at the table because bread is a straight carbohydrate. My number one tip for my clients and followers is don't go to restaurants starving. You could go hungry,
Starting point is 00:25:44 of course, but don't go ravenous where you're like, I need something immediately because as soon as they put that bread and olive oil down, you're dumping your bread into the olive oil. and obviously olive oil as long as it's not cut with other oils is healthy for you, but you could be drowning and drenching your bread with olive oil and it could be a, I'm not even joking, depending on how many pieces you have and a thousand calorie pre-appetizer. It's before you get your appetizers. And it is pure carbohydrates in the bread.
Starting point is 00:26:12 It is going to spike your blood sugar and make you even hungrier. So it's kind of like an awful thing restaurants to you to kind of get you to order more. You might be thinking, oh, they're so nice, they're giving me free bread. They're giving you free bread because it's going to make you. you hungrier. And that's reverse psychology that people don't realize and I will never touch the breadbasket unless I am coming back from war. And that's the first thing I see. Or for me, I'll do like one piece. Like actually, we just ate at the well last night and I almost ordered this because I order this almost every time before we get our meal. They have this really amazing gluten-free
Starting point is 00:26:43 sourdough and it comes with pasteurized butter. And I'll do like one piece of that. That's different. Exactly. That's going in with an intention that you're going to eat that. And also it's, you know, you're getting a gluten-free sourdough and high-quality butter. And I'm talking about when those Italian restaurants just dump the breadbasket at you and you know they are awful for you. Oh, yeah. You know that it's like not good grains and it's probably glyphosate soaked and all the things. Awful.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Okay, so I want to talk about some of the biggest nutrition myths that people fall for. So what are some of them that you think that people fall for? The biggest one that I have seen is that, you know, fat makes you fat and that carbs make you fat and like there's no need like you should be eating a low fat diet just because the word fat is so you know it's so bad in today's society eating dietary fat is different from gaining body fat and that's something that a lot of people need to understand and wrap their head around because if you're eating an avocado and say an avocado just has 16 grams of fat in it depending on the size whatever that is I consider avocado as a superfood because I think it's one of those
Starting point is 00:27:51 foods that falls under every diet category, whether you're vegan, your animal-based. The only thing it doesn't really fall under is like, I guess, carnivore, but... Yeah, that's true. But it's still like a keto-friendly fruit, and it's full of fiber, protein, and healthy fats. When there's a food that has high protein, fiber, and healthy fat contents, I consider that to check off all the boxes as long as it has clean ingredients, and that's amazing. Another one that I love is flackers. You know those crackers?
Starting point is 00:28:18 Oh, yeah. They're like seeded crackers, and they are one. They're nine grams of fiber. They have protein and healthy fats in them, and they're like three ingredients. They're incredible, too. And that's like another way to get more fiber and nutrients in, micronutrients in, to, you know, help you just feel good and satisfied all day because it has the fat content and everything. But dietary fat does not make you fat.
Starting point is 00:28:39 And that's something that I see way too often. Did you know that all chips and fries used to be cooked in tallow up until the 90s when big corporations switched to cheap processed seed oils? boo, I know, cue the boos. Today, seed oils make up 20% of the average Americans' daily calories and recent studies have linked seed oils to metabolic health issues and inflammation in the body. Mossa decided to do something about it. They created a tasty and delicious tortilla chip with just three ingredients and no seed oils, organic nixomalicized corn, sea salt, and 100% grass-fed beef tallow.
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Starting point is 00:33:07 So there was a study in the 1970s by Harvard, scientists and it was a bunch of Harvard scientists that were on this studying the sugar effects on the body and then also fat and what they found was it was actually sugar that was causing heart disease but the sugar industry and by the way this sounds like a conspiracy but it's not but it's not there was literally a piece who posted about it i think it was npr that actually broke the study a couple years ago because they found all the paperwork they found the letters and everything that was like it just yeah it basically revealed it was like paying the big yeah exactly yeah the sugar industry was paying they paid these
Starting point is 00:33:45 Harvard scientists offered now today's like equivalent of like 50,000 dollars which is like nothing when you think about the ramifications of it but they paid them to say that what they found was that it was actually fat that was driving heart disease and that's the beginning of all the misinformation and I mean I'm just so grateful and glad that people like you and I have looked right through this BS and they're able to help through both of our own health journeys. And whereas yours might not have been a weight loss journey, it's just like eating healthy and feeling your best.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And I will say like Courtney has been someone who like when I was coming here to do this podcast, I love being around Courtney because she's one of those people that make me healthier and make me want to make healthier decisions all around with her lifestyle and also her nutrition and food choices. I know that if I'm going to Courtney's house or anywhere, like, I know that I'm going to be set. I brought a carry on here and I didn't bring my skincare because I knew Courtney was going to have every non-toxic skincare company under the sun. And obviously she did. So just a little disclaimer about Courtney. Oh, thank you. I know. It's so fun. And I think this is actually something
Starting point is 00:34:59 that people don't talk about enough, the importance of the friends that you keep around you in maintaining this kind of lifestyle. And I don't mean this in a way of like drop your friends that aren't like super healthy or anything like that. But it really does make a difference. And it, you know, the more that I have started living this lifestyle just kind of naturally happens. We just all kind of magnetized to each other. I mean, think about all of our friends. You know, all of our friends eat super well and healthy. And it's so much fun when we all get together because we know that we're going to go to the healthy restaurants. We know that our fridge is going to be stocked with really healthy, clean ingredients. And you're the sum of the five people that you spend the most time with.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And if you're with people that are eating ultra-processed foods all the time, you're going to be doing the same. 100%. And even when I started getting healthy and swapping ingredients, my family even thought I was crazy. But looking at the way they eat it now, I mean, my mom's lost weight, my dad's lost weight, my sister's lost weight. And my sister did it while she was in college, which a lot of people think is impossible. And my dad and mom did it in such healthy, sustainable ways, and they've been able to manage their weight. And now they're doing, you know, they work out, they do everything the way that they should. I truly do believe that it came as a result of seeing me and how I basically have transformed in every aspect of my life because of it.
Starting point is 00:36:13 That's so awesome. Well, there was also this notion for a long time that we've kind of talked about that eating healthy has to be boring and gross and bland. We live in such an amazing time where we have access to so many recipes and healthier for you food products. And yeah, it's just we live in a great time. Like you can go on YouTube and say, like, I want to make a cheesy gordy to crunch from Taco Bell and then find a way to make it healthy.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Or you could ask AI, and it'll give you the simplest recipe in the world. Yes. So what are your, what's your framework for when you're going through the grocery store? Because you're known for going through the grocery store and showing people healthier for you products. So what's your kind of, yeah, what's your framework as far as like what you deem healthy and not? So something that I think is eating healthy, I mean, we just discussed it 50 times, but eating healthy is not boring.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I'll repeat it. Eating healthy is not boring. Whether you want ice cream, chips, protein sources, fruits, anything. Waffles, there are healthy swaps for every product under the sun. And by that, I mean, products that don't have enriched ingredients, products that aren't loaded with microplastics, forever chemicals, artificial flavors, artificial dyes, which is in so many products, which is so damaging. We found them in protein bars yesterday. It's like, why are these died? It's so upsetting. I didn't, I actually don't even believe it. And then Courtney's like,
Starting point is 00:37:33 look at this. And it's like red 40, yellow lake. And I'm like, what's going on? And it's, it's something that shouldn't even have color in it. It's so backwards. And even if you're going for cookies or cookie dough, like there's better swaps for everything. So what I like to say is, and Courtney definitely could agree with this, is the perimeter of every grocery store is where you want to start. That's where all of the, you know, whether it's the seafood counter, the butcher counter, all of the proteins and the produces. And then you just have to dive in the middle section, which is where the aisles usually are in every grocery store. to pick out your better-for-you cereal.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And the way that I do it is I look for ones with no vegetable or seed oils. There's never a product, and I have a lot of products in my apartment and you have a lot in your home where none of them have vegetable or seed oils in them. That's like my non-negotiable. And so many people might think that the way that you where I live is so unrealistic and unsustainable,
Starting point is 00:38:24 whereas I could speak for myself. And when I go out to dinner with friends, I try to choose healthier restaurants. I am not so psychotic, where I free. freak out if one of my friends uses a restaurant that might cook with a certain oil. I still try to do my best to ask for a swap. I could always ask if they could cook it in butter, olive oil, but that's just part of life for me in New York, and I'm not able to control all of those. So I control those controllables. So what I do is I make sure that when I'm grocery shopping,
Starting point is 00:38:52 if I want chips, I know the brands to go for, and I know what ingredients to look for. And you just want to look for things with simple ingredients. It's not rocket science. And you want to look for things without seed oils, vegetable oils, malodextrin, MSG, refined added sugars to the point where it's more than five or six grams per serving, which is crazy. And just anything that doesn't belong in the food, like when things that contains a bioengineered food ingredient on the bottom, that should signal that it's a red flag to you, you know? And that's not necessary because whatever product it is, there is a healthier, better for you swap out there. And that does not mean healthy for weight loss. It just means a healthier alternative when it comes to ingredients, which could help
Starting point is 00:39:32 you feel better. Exactly. Yeah. So when we were talking about food myths, I actually wanted to bring up cholesterol because we were talking about how someone messaged you the other day and they were like, I can't buy your cookies because they have cholesterol on them. So we started talking about cholesterol. What are your thoughts on? And also, I have a couple notes here that we can talk about too. When it comes to cholesterol, I'm not the most well versed on it, but what I can say is, and we've discuss this, that someone out there is lowering the normal range of cholesterol for Americans. I don't know if it's year after year, but as time goes on, where someone who would have been considered in the normal cholesterol range in 2000, and their cholesterol might be the
Starting point is 00:40:12 exact same number, might be considered extremely high cholesterol now. And that could definitely, that's a result of many things. But what I will say is, it is a little strange how that range continues to fall lower and lower because it means more and more Americans and people around the world are going to have higher cholesterol numbers and, you know, be more susceptible to being put on medication for it. Well, it's the pharmaceutical company. So they keep lowering the numbers and they actually just lowered it like a year or two ago. I should look this up before, but I remember it was kind of recently. They keep lowering it so that when you go to your doctor, then your doctor will go, oh, you're considered to be in the high range now. So let's put you on a statin.
Starting point is 00:40:50 and more and more, I forgot the percentage, but there is a massive percentage of Americans that are on statins, which is incredibly concerning because what we do know, cholesterol is really good for your brain. It's really good for cognitive function. It's also really good for healthy hormones. And sometimes when your cholesterol is going up, it doesn't necessarily mean that this is a bad thing
Starting point is 00:41:08 and that you're going to be at a higher risk for heart disease. It's a really complicated conversation. And I actually had a conversation with Johnny Bowden, and I recommend people going back and listening to that episode because he wrote a book called The Chlesterol Myth. And there's another thing that that's a huge misconception is that people think that dietary cholesterol equals serum cholesterol. What I mean by that is like, people think that if you eat cholesterol and your food, that
Starting point is 00:41:32 it's going to raise your cholesterol in your blood and it's actually not true. It's more of a metabolic thing and it has more to do with eating more sugar. Yeah. And I also think it's so concerning that some people look at a nutrition label, which everyone should be looking at the labels, read the back of your, you know, your packages and everything. But what's concerning is that people look at the cholesterol number, and if it's higher than five milligrams per serving, they immediately put it back and say, oh, no, this is going to kill me.
Starting point is 00:41:56 It's going to give me a heart attack. This is not good. Whereas so many people aren't reading everything else on the label, and it's making people very scared of some of the most nutrient-dense foods in the world, like red meat or even better for you options, like a healthy seed oil, grain-free, gluten-free, refined sugar-free cookie, and then they'll be like, eh, f it, I'll just go for the chips away. And I'm like, no, that's not what you want to do. Which is so crazy because rising cholesterol can actually reflect improved hormonal and metabolic
Starting point is 00:42:23 function. So it could mean that you have better hormone production, improved cell membrane health, lower inflammation long term, and you're eating more real food fats instead of processed carbs. Yeah. Knowledge is power. And that's something that a lot of people, I hope, take away from this because it's not something that I fear. And also quality matters so much. When you are buying things, remember your health is your wealth, and this doesn't have to do with cookies, but I'm talking about a grass-fed steak, grass-finished steak versus a grain-fed steak. Obviously, I would much rather you, and you would definitely agree with this, I'd much rather people, you know, buy what you could afford, but also remember where you are putting your money aside from at the grocery store.
Starting point is 00:43:02 If you are going out for dinner multiple nights a week, or you are spending money on lottery tickets, hoping you win one day, or you are, you know, buying so much clothing for yourself that you don't need, extra clothing and you're sparing the money and you're not able to, you know, afford regular traditional foods at the grocery store, like it might be time to budget and look at where you are allocating your money. And another thing is, I'd much rather you buy a grain-fed burger patty or grain-fed steak or even a farm-raised salmon over the genetically modified bioengineered beyond meat and all of the fake red meat and the, you know, I Have you even seen like plant-based salmon or plant-based tuna in cans?
Starting point is 00:43:47 And I'm like, this is horrifying. And it's stuff that should not exist. And I mean, the stock price of Beyond Meat speaks for itself. And I hope it continues going in that direction. Because if you want to be vegan or plant-based for whatever reason, do it. But do not go for these alternatives that are full of seed oils, additives, preservatives, gums, and disgusting things that are in these products. and it really upsets me.
Starting point is 00:44:14 And there's better for you options out there. Like Abbott's Kitchen, it makes it amazing. I personally wouldn't need it because I would much rather go for ground beef, and I know you would too. But they use pea protein and all clean ingredients and seasonings. And there's better options out there. But it upsets me when I see people say that this isn't for everyone. I can't afford the types of groceries that I can't afford to buy steak or chicken
Starting point is 00:44:39 or turkey every single week. But I see them personally. friends and everyone going and buying three drinks at the bar on the weekends and buying all these new clothes that they don't need. And I know everyone gets like, you know, entertainment and has fun and like spending their money in different ways. But food is a priority and it really should be for everyone. Well, I say this all the time.
Starting point is 00:45:00 We live in a time where if you do not make time for your wellness, you will be forced to make time for your illness. You just will. You just will. So it's either you pay the farmer now or you pay the pharmacist later. Would you rather put maybe a little bit more money into eating better, feeling better, and so that your brain works better, or would you rather be sick, and then on 10 medications and going to the doctor every week?
Starting point is 00:45:24 And that's the other thing I say, shop these sales. It does not need to be for proteins, whether you were going for cereal, crackers, oatmeal, buy high-quality ingredients when they go on sale, because they go and sell very often, especially at stores. And also, Thrive Market is like a godsend. Thrive Market, if anyone doesn't know, you order frozen or fresh or pantry staples or bathroom staples online. It gets sent to your door in two days and they price match. So if you find something online at, say, Target for $5, but on Thrive it says $7, you shoot them an email
Starting point is 00:46:00 or contact their customer service through their form. They will price match it for you and change the price after you order it, which is insane. So I always like to say, so many people are like, I'm too busy. I can't go to the grocery store. You could spend five minutes browsing Thrive Market at night once a month and doing a huge bulk order and it's free shipping and comes right to your doorstep. So there really are no excuses. And that's something I like to say for college students too and those who work very long hours and want to fit in the gym and everything and don't have time to go to the grocery store. Thrive is at your disposal and it's something that I recommend and it's changed people's lives. Yeah, I love Thrive Market. Thrive Market is the best. I've been a member
Starting point is 00:46:37 forever because like you said, it just makes it so much easier. And Thrive Market is great, too, for those people that maybe don't live super close to like a whole foods or like, you know, sprouts or whatever. That's so easy. And it's also a great way to discover new fun products that are healthy for you. Yeah. And I love their, they have a feature. It's so funny, we're just like praising Thribe Market right now, but they have a feature that's my favorite where you can shop like through the aisles, essentially. Oh, yeah. Which is kind of like you're shopping through the grocery store because that always helps me remember. Because going through the grocery store, I'll be like, oh, yeah, I needed this. I needed that.
Starting point is 00:47:07 dietary restriction. If you're gluten-free, soy-free, whatever it is, I mean, this sounds like an ad. I know. It's not an ad. You can sponsor us if you want. Yeah, exactly. That's so funny. It's amazing. So what would your advice be? Because I know a lot of people are struggling with their health right now. I mean, in America, we know that 74% of Americans are metabolically, or no, actually, it's 93% of Americans are metabolically unwell, but 74% of Americans have at least one chronic disease. So somebody maybe that's really struggling with their health right now, what do you tell your clients that you find really helps people that are struggling with their health? I think making one simple swap at a time and not going from zero to 100 with anything
Starting point is 00:47:45 is really important, whether it's swapping out the oils that you're using, swapping out your pots and pans, swapping out your plastic Tupperware for glass Tupperware, one swap at a time. Focus on making one swap a day or a week or a month because it will gradually add up over time. You do not need to go from zero to 100 overnight. And I also will say for the those of you who are on more of a budget or a tighter with your money, don't think that you need to immediately throw out everything in your pantry. Finish what you currently have and then go for the better options. So many people think that they need to stop immediately. And while that might work for some people, it definitely won't for others. And also, I really think looking at where you
Starting point is 00:48:24 are allocating your budget matters so much. Also plan ahead. Think about what you, if you have a family, think about what you guys want to eat for the coming week and make a big grocery list. And you could again get it delivered or you could go and pick it up but going into the store with the plan don't go to the grocery store hungry you and i experienced that yesterday um Courtney and I downed an entire bag of chips because they were really good and they were starving yeah they didn't really taste like mac and cheese but they just tasted like free does but whatever again like there's a simple swap for everything and that's why there's accounts like Courtney's and mine where we show you for free the best swaps the best alternatives for everything supplements home
Starting point is 00:49:05 products, kitchen essentials, foods, drinks, everything. And it's all at your disposal for free online. Yeah, that's what's so cool about this is there really is a swap for everything now. I remember when I first started, I mean, I started on my journey like 20 years ago and I was making most of my things from scratch because there wasn't that many healthy options. I remember there was like one healthy Oreo. Like I would buy like Numinos and I don't even buy that kind of stuff really anymore. Yeah, really? Numinow. Yeah. I've never heard of it in my life. That's so funny. There was a, God, I'm going to forget what his name is.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Oh, Paul Newman started his own, like, healthier, like, food line. And it's so funny because now I look at his salad dressings and I'm like, oh, these aren't even good. They have canola oil. I know what you're talking about. And he used to have Numinos, and he also used to make these, like, Reese's peanut butter cup dupes that were like a healthier Reese's peanut butter cup. I don't even think any of those exist anymore. And by the way, I'm not even saying that those are, like, healthy, but I'm just saying that, you know, especially when I was first on my journey, when I was trying to get, away from eating Oreos, I was kind of like meeting myself in the middle where I was finding
Starting point is 00:50:07 these, like, you know, things that didn't have all the additives in there. And I was eating these like healthier Oreos and stuff. But now, I mean, oh my God, there's such amazing options. The swaps are crazy. So I want to know what are some of the most common questions you get in the DMs? Like, what are people really struggling with right now? A lot of people, I think, are trying to major in the minors and they're not focusing on the main issues at hand. They're asking me, they're like, it is impossible for us to find a fruit snack. And I'm like, sometimes I ask them, and they might be repeating questions. Like, I might have had previous conversations with this follower. So let's just say, Mary, for example, follower, she'll write me and be like,
Starting point is 00:50:47 I'm struggling to find a fruit snack for my three-year-old daughter that is, you know, die-free and doesn't have any additives. But I know that in the past, she's told me that she's struggled with, you know, so many other things. Like, I would focus on the bigger issues, things that you're using every single day. Whereas so many people like to focus on the very small things. Like I think that obviously, and we discussed this yesterday, too, like clothing and active wear when you're sweating, you don't want to, you know, have clothes that are made out of polyester because it's just not good for you and it'll leach into your body and all the stuff. But when you focus on those before you focus on your food and your laundry detergent and things like that, it's not
Starting point is 00:51:25 as impactful. You want to focus on, you know, the majors. You want to like, focus on, you know, on the things that matter the most. And so many people also, they don't focus on things like their sleep and they don't realize, and filtered water and having an air filter, whereas those are things that I think are essentials if you want to live a very healthy, happy life. Yeah, they make a huge difference. What I find a lot is I'll get a ton of messages from people all the time, and I assume you probably do too because we do similar things online, is people will write me very specific, what yogurt should I buy? Or like, what cereal should I buy? And I always try to, I write them back and I say, you know, the reason I make these videos is because I want people to learn for themselves how to navigate the grocery stores so they're not having to rely on people like you or me to give them every single brand.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Like I want them to learn. It's that famous quote that I use all the time. It's like you give someone a fish, they eat for a day, you teach them how to fish and they feed themselves for a lifetime. The exact same thing in this scenario. Yeah. Yeah. So you probably, I bet you get a lot of questions of like, which yogurt do you eat? And I try to make it so simple. I'll do a yogurt swap graphic where I'll show 10 of the most popular yogurts at the grocery store that are full of refined sugar, dies, believe it or not, so many gums. And then the next slide will be 10, both dairy and plant-based yogurts to choose from. And you would think that would be enough. And then in the caption, I'll write what you want to look for in yogurts. Don't look like try to avoid these things. And I'll list out like five or six things. And some people just want the information given to them.
Starting point is 00:52:59 And especially in today's society where people, and I fall victim to this too, could be glued to their phones, they don't really absorb the material. And they just look for the answer right away. And we both provide so many ways where you can navigate the grocery store on your own. But I understand that's stressful. And that's why both of us try to share products and brands that are accessible around the entire U.S. and world, pretty much. so people could easily identify them.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Exactly. What are some of the worst offenders that we find in the grocery store? Like where do people slip up, you think, that they think that they're eating healthy? So I think that there's different, like there's a hierarchy. So I think there's things like beyond meat and then there's the grain fed conventional meat. Then there's grass fed meat. And then there's grass finished meat. Obviously, if you have the funds, I would try to go for the highest quality proteins,
Starting point is 00:53:51 whether it's wild caught fish, wild caught fish, wild caught. salmon, shrimp, organic pasteurized eggs, but that doesn't mean you need to beat yourself up over getting traditional free-range eggs or regular meat. Like people sometimes get very stressed because they can't do the most and it's not somewhere where I would freak out over. I think that a lot of people think that when they want more of like a fun food, like a cereal or a granola, every option is going to be crap where there still are better for you options. When it comes to granola, you always know purely Elizabeth is going to be there ready for you. You always know there's grain-free brands like paleoanola that are incredible.
Starting point is 00:54:28 And when it comes to cereal, we love our lovebirds, seven Sundays, and there's the real cereal company and so many other brands that are doing it right. And so many people just get stressed in the grocery store. And that's what we want to try to alleviate. And then obviously, like, the things that are a big note to me are anything with the seed oils or hydrogenated oils. And it's very easy to find products that don't have these once you know what to look for. and I have very good brand recognition
Starting point is 00:54:55 where I realize that where I'll be able to be in the grocery store and I could realize where in the grocery store products you could just tell like you could always look at the gluten-free section because those tend to be a little bit healthier but so many people just stress themselves out stress themselves out so much and they're like I don't know what to buy
Starting point is 00:55:15 and they just panic and buy whatever they see whereas if you go in with the plan you could either do screenshots of people's Instagram posts or guides online or like... He's a scanner. Or you could use this food scanning app. Yeah. It alleviates so much stress for you.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Oh, yeah. So I would say where I see people trip up quite frequently would be yogurt and creamers. Creamers is the bit... Creamers and bread. Oh, yeah. Oh, in bread. Bread.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Bread's a big one too. And you and I, well, we're not like the biggest bread people. No. And I physically cannot remember the last time I have ever bought bread in the grocery store. Oh, no, me neither. I usually get bread either from, there's a local place now that we get it from that does a gluten-free sourdough bread or I'll order from AWG bakery. Have you ever had them?
Starting point is 00:56:00 Incredible, grain-free, delicious. But the creamers and the bread, the bread laundry list ingredients might be the longest ingredients list. What do you think is like the product or brand or food type with the longest ingredients list? Not crumble cookies. Oh, God. Oh, God. We went to crumble yesterday and it was really frightening. We didn't need it. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Do you don't worry. But what do you think? is like a brand. I would say like baked goods in general. Yes. So when you go to like, like I was just thinking, I was just picturing Costco, you know, when you go to Costco. The birthday cakes.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Dude. Even the whole foods. The cookies. That too. Or even if you go to just a standard, like I don't know what you guys have in New York, but like Kroger or like we have H.E.B. Yeah. If you just go into any of those and the bakery items, the cookies, the cakes, oh my God. When I was in high school, I loved those sugar cookies that have the
Starting point is 00:56:48 like, the frosting like mound on top. And I, I don't remember what those are called, but oh, my God. I know what you're talking about. And the ingredient list is like 30 ingredients. They like melt in your mouth like caught in candy. Yes. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Moment of silence for those. RIP. Yeah. But that's something that Courtney and I would both love and they, we love them. But neither Courtney and I, we would not be caught at eating those right now. Oh, God, no. Because we know how we feel now and we know how awful those ingredients are in those foods. And even though they might have been so freaking delicious, however many of years,
Starting point is 00:57:22 ago, like, it's something where I am completely fine avoiding it now, and there's better cookie and browning alternatives now where we don't even need to go near it. Yeah, and I don't even miss them. And honestly, I would be curious to see if they even taste good to us anymore. Like, Crumble is a great example. We walked into Crumble last night. And when we left, all three of us had, like, migraines. And I felt nauseous to my stomach. Like, the smell didn't even smell good. It smelled like you were spraying yourself with perfume. And it stayed on our bodies after we left. Yeah, it was like a bath and body works, like candle shop. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:56 And to me, like those kind of things, and I think that's what people don't, people that have not fully switched over or maybe people that are still eating standard American diets, don't fully understand is that once you let that grip of addiction go, you no longer crave or even really like those foods anymore. Also, we didn't even mention crumbull is expensive for what you're getting. It's a $4.50 a cookie, and there are many best. better for you cookies. Even if you go to the store and get Sietta or Simple Mills cookies, you could get an entire bag. You got a box for like five or six dollars. Yeah. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:58:29 what are you nuts? Like how, that's not normal. Like that is not okay considering the ingredient list is like a CVS receipt. It's like to the floor. It's so bad. Crazy. Yeah, it's so bad. But I would argue that if we were even to try one of those cookies now, I don't even think that they would taste good. Yeah. And then right after I posted it on my story, people were like, Hunter, I had a corner of one of those cookies a week ago at a birthday party and I did not feel while I had to lay down for hours. And I'm like, this might sound so crazy to people listening to this, but when you stop eating those addictive poisonous foods and ingredients and then you revert back to it once or twice, you realize how awful you felt on it and people think that is the normal. And that's something
Starting point is 00:59:11 I really want to stress. Yes, it's so true. Again, once you let that grip go of those addictive foods, they just don't taste the same to you anymore. Okay, I have some kind of rattle. Okay, I have some kind of rapid fire questions that I want to ask you about. What are your favorite snacks? Your go-to snacks? So I try not to snack a lot because I would much rather have a breakfast lunch and dinner. I will make this rapid fire though, something that I love and it is my kryptonite. I'm obsessed with ice cream and I know that it might be bad, but there are times when you could catch me eating a few scoops of ice cream out of a pint in the middle of the day. But going for ice cream for bears and thrown in, those are my two go-toes that I am obsessed with. And we were talking about this
Starting point is 00:59:47 yesterday, Alex culture cups, I am all about portion control because I am someone who could eat a lot of any food. And having an 120 calorie ice cream with the cleanest ingredients and a hard chocolate shell on top of it is perfect. Those are so good. I'm not like a chip or popcorn person. I'm an ice cream person. Like, that's my thing. I love that. Well, then you just make them in the creamy and they're, you know, full of protein. Exactly. Let's see. We already talked about bread, what's the healthiest creamer and what's the worst creamer? Healthiest creamer, if you want plain, is grass-fed half and half. I think that is my go-to. If you want a flavor, if you like dairy-free, I think Malk makes incredible vanilla and caramel
Starting point is 01:00:28 creamers. I think the unhealthiest creamer is what we saw yesterday. It is the coffee meat, Harry Potter, Dracula creamers, which the cleanest ingredient is that in that one is probably Sosulfate potassium, which is an artificial sweetener. Like, Every single, guys, it is so mind-blowing. You look at the back of a milk creamer. It is water, organic almonds, organic vanilla extract, organic coconut sugar, sea salt. And then you look at the back of a coffee mate creamer.
Starting point is 01:00:57 And it is, actually, it might have water, which it might have a drop. It might have water. It's like water, artificial flavors, carigenin, mono and diglycerized. Mono and diglycerase. Which are trans fats, by the way. Which, that could be another topic. Emulsifier.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And Ace K, Splenda. Oh, and then a lot of them have sugar and artificial sweeteners in them. Why do they need both? You know what's really concerning about those specifically? Is that how, that's how most people are starting their day. So it's maybe sometimes the first thing they put in their body first thing in the morning and they're doing it every day because it's a daily habit. Oh, not only every day. Some people, including me, if you're a coffee junkie, you could have it three or four times a day and they do multiple servings multiple times a day. So if you're at one serving, and I'm not even talking about the calories in this case, if you saw what is in these creamers, that is the number one product that I would focus on. If you were worried about your kids' Welsh's fruit snacks, but you are still dumping coffee-made international delight creamer or even the Starbucks one was horrific.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And you're dumping those into your coffee every single day, multiple times a day. Do not worry about your kids' fruit snacks. Worry about that coffee creamer because that is one of the biggest toxins that I think you could find. It's a heart attack waiting to happen. No, it's horrible. It literally is.
Starting point is 01:02:12 It's a heart attack waiting to happen. I think that's the unhealthiest food at the grocery store. Like, yeah, a baked good. I don't think that people are going to be having Costco's baked cookies, you know, the bakery cookies, every single day, three times a day. But people are having their coffee three or four times a day. And that's reminding me we need to go get that coffee after this. We do.
Starting point is 01:02:32 We're going to go do that after. Speaking of, what's your coffee order? Okay, so I am a big cold group person at heart, and I love making mine at home. Another way you save so much money. guys, if you like ice coffee or hot coffee, I make cold brew at home. I bought a $20 cold brew maker on Amazon. It's a glass pitcher with a stainless steel filter and I fill it up with high quality mold-free coffee ground coffee. You could add cinnamon. You could add pumpkin
Starting point is 01:03:00 spice to the ground coffee to make it flavored if you want a flavor. And then you fill it up with water. You leave it in your fridge overnight. 24 hours later, you take the filter out and I have my own cold brew, it's an enormous picture, probably like 60 ounces. I don't even know, 60 fluid ounces. You need to because you like cold brew or like ice cream. We love cold brew. That's like all we drink. It's incredible. And there's so many better for you coffee brands out there when it comes to grounds coffee or whole bean. And that entire picture probably costs at most to $3. Whereas you go to Starbucks or Dunkin' Donuts, you are getting a coffee that could be this big, a few inches. And not only is it filled with mold because people don't realize coffee is one of the most coffee beans and like
Starting point is 01:03:43 at the actual farms. That's one of the most sprayed crops coffee. And people don't realize that you could be drinking mold every day and you are blowing your bank account. Put that money towards your next grocery store visit and you are set. So I do, I went on a coffee tangent. But it's very important because that's the topic I'm very passionate about. I love it. And then if I want a flavored coffee, what I do, and this is a trick I recently posted about, one tablespoon of half and half for the color. It makes it very bright, you know, like that color people want. And a tablespoon or a serving of either the organic Calafia Farms creamers or the milk creamers. And you mix it together and you have a flavored coffee that is 30 to 40 calories and it tastes delicious. Oh, yum. The milk
Starting point is 01:04:25 creamers are awesome. And I find I don't need that much of it because they're super flavorful. Yeah. They don't make it light, which is why I think adding a little bit of milk or half and half is perfect if you care about the color. That sounds so, I do. I like it when it's a little bit like wider. What's the most shocking ingredient you've found on a label? Contains a bioengineered ingredient. I've been at Whole Foods and I've seen corn, corn, corn that looks like it's corn on the cob that's from the farm.
Starting point is 01:04:48 And it says from a bioengineered farm at Whole Foods. Whole Foods has gone down the hill and it's really sad. Target's taking over. I know. It makes me so sad. What's the most underrated clean brand? Underrated clean brand. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I think truly free when it comes to home cleaning products. People don't think it's clean, but it also smells incredible too. Like, yes, we know Brands Basics. We know Mali Suds. We know these better for your brands. But no one, I think they're changing the game. I'm obsessed with their laundry detergent. It smells so good.
Starting point is 01:05:19 It smells so good. What's one meal you can eat every day and never get sick of? A half of a hundred yogurt ball every single day. It's just so delicious. Oh, I love that. And if I didn't have to cook and it was cooked for me, grass-fed steaks, flea potato, and, like, roasted broccoli with mushrooms, I'd have that every day. I mean, we pretty much got through all my rapid fire questions. Is there anything else you
Starting point is 01:05:42 want to share, and then please share with everyone where they can find you? Yes. I think it's just focus on slow changes. If weight loss is your goal, remember that that goes in tangent and it goes with feeling better every single day. So many people think that, you know, they follow the people who say premier protein shakes and the bear bells protein bars and the gym bros and all those and that is not the way to go if you want sustainable healthy change um and that's something that might come with time but that's why people like Courtney and I am so I'm so happy that you guys have people like us so we're like getting us on the back no I'm so happy that you guys have free information online where we show you healthy swaps that also taste delicious or are effective and they truly
Starting point is 01:06:26 work. So I think making one swap at a time and not focusing on the very small things and focus on the big things. And filtered water, I think, is like the biggest thing. Yeah. Filtered water is super important. Stock up Black Friday, New Year sales, whatever it is. And Health with Hunter on all platforms on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok. Yes. And we will definitely tag him in the show notes. So you guys will be able to find him. If you don't already follow him, make sure you follow him. But I feel like a lot of my listeners probably already do because they're on it. Yeah. But thank you so much, Hunter. This was awesome. Thank you for having me. This was amazing. This was so much fun. Thank you. Thank you so much for listening to the Real Foodology podcast. This is a Wellness
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