Realfoodology - Why Do You Want To Be Healthy? with Yogi Cameron
Episode Date: March 30, 202287: Yogi Cameron worked in the fashion world in the 90’s and then found himself in India for the last 18 years to study Yogic philosophy and Ayurvedic medicine as a practitioner and Yogi. He is the ...founder of the ayurvedic liposomal supplements 108 Beauty and an inspiration to so many! We speak about spirituality and how to find balance and peace in these modern times. Also how to trust your intuition and get back to yourself and your truth so you can better show up in the world! I felt renewed after this conversation, there were so many gems of advice! Check Out Yogi: https://108.health/ https://www.inspireliving.co/about-us Check Out Courtney: Courtney's Instagram: @realfoodology www.realfoodology.com Air Dr Air Purifier AquaTru Water Filter EWG Tap Water Database Further Listening: Why Your Food's Not What it Used to Be with Finian Makepeace Take Back Your Health
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On today's episode of The Real Foodology Podcast.
If you're drinking, be a good drinker.
If you're a healthy person, be a good healthy person.
Don't be a healthy person and nag other people or put everybody down.
Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of The Real Foodology Podcast.
As always, I'm your host, Courtney Swan. If you are new here, I started Real Foodology almost 11 years
ago as a food blog, and it was an outlet for all the things I was learning in the health and
nutrition world as I was studying and getting my master's of science in nutrition and integrative
health. From there, it branched out into my Instagram and now more recently this podcast,
and I am so happy that you guys are here. On today's episode, I sat down with
Yogi Cameron, who is the founder of 108 Beauty, which is a liposomal Ayurvedic supplement.
I've been using his supplements for the last like six months now, and I'm a huge fan. So when we
chatted about him coming on the podcast, I was really excited to dive deeper into Ayurveda and also he's a yogi.
So I wanted to talk all about yoga and the yogic practice that he and his wife implement
into their everyday life.
But boy, was I surprised you guys, this episode left me kind of speechless at times.
Um, I felt like a lot of what he said was just very relatable and pretty profound. And I
found a lot of gems in this conversation that I could apply to my own personal life. And I hope
that you feel the same. We talk a lot about spirituality. We also talk a lot about just how
to find balance and peace in these modern times and how we can connect back to our truth and connect back to ourselves so that we can
become more trusting of ourselves.
And I just have to say that this episode really surprised me and in the best way possible.
I really had a vision for how I thought this episode would go down and what we would talk
about.
And I had a lot of questions that I wanted to ask him about Ayurveda.
And we didn't get to any of those questions because the conversation just went to a totally
different route and I really, really enjoyed it. And I'm going to have him come back on so that we
can dive into Ayurveda and his supplements and the health side of things. But I am so excited and
happy about how this episode turned out. And I'm really excited for you guys to hear the conversation.
So with that, let's get into the episode.
Actually, I spoke a little bit too soon as I sometimes do.
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Also, I wanted to say, please check out Yogi's supplement line 108.
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He has three different liposomal supplements that target different things like detox, stress,
and immune health.
And I'm a huge fan of them.
And I use them almost every single day.
And I really feel a difference with them.
So anyways, with that, now let's get
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trial with free shipping and returns. Yogi. I'm so grateful that we finally got connected. I love
that we got on a phone chat before. Um, I just resonate so much with what you were saying and
what we were chatting about. And so I'm really excited that we're connecting right now.
I first found you actually through 108 Beauty.
And I just want to say that I love those supplements so much.
I'm going to let you speak to them actually, but they are liposomal supplements.
And I've found in my years of experience of taking supplements that I've more recently
gotten into the liposomal supplements.
And I've found that they're a lot more powerful and way more effective than powders.
Yeah. I mean, the whole total premise of using modern science is that we can bring the ancient
things, herbs, which we don't need to really touch and then use modern science because we can break
down the particles smaller. And then when you take take them you don't need to use as much because we're getting into a culture of supersizing and we
tend to supersize everything so we brought that supersizing into supplements we brought it into
i mean food we brought it into many years ago and then we've brought it into spirituality as well which is kind of getting weird um so so
what happens we'll we'll touch on that one as well but what happens with supplements is when
you take too much of them the body just keeps getting used to them right and then you just
need more and more of them and what tends to happen is then the supplement is doing the body's
job for it we don't want that we want the body,
the body stays strong when it builds itself continuously with its immune system. So we don't
want to lessen the immune system by making it lazy. Right? So for instance, when you take
modern medicine, for example, it does the job takes takes the infection away. Now, we need that at times because the body
is just overrun, it can't deal with it. That's great one time, that's okay twice. But if we
continuously do it, what happens is the body doesn't do its own function. So we kind of want
the herbal supplements to be in conjunction with what the body does, but never doing the job of the body.
And at some point, we may need less or more, but we need to kind of be in contact with ourself and
get to get to know ourselves better, and to understand ourselves better. So we say, okay,
I need this much today. And then tomorrow, I need that much. But every day is a different day.
So that's really how 108 came about. I love that you touched on that. So,
you know, you just put into words something that I have really found as I've gotten more and more
into my health journey and learning more about my body and what my body needs.
I'm driven a lot by my intuition.
And so I have a hard time when I have people reach out to me, you know, in Instagram DMs
and they're like, how much of this should I take?
Or what should I take of X, Y, and Z?
And I tell all of them the same thing.
I'm like, you know, I don't really know how to answer this because I'm very led by what
my, what I feel like my body needs.
I mean, I take supplements almost every single day, but there are days that I wake up and
I'm like, I don't think I need them today. And I don't take
them. And I really feel like that is my body being in connection with my body of like knowing when I
need to take it. And then same with the dosing. Like I will take more in some days, depending on
how I feel and what I feel like I need. And it's hard to explain this to people because I, I feel
like we've gotten so stuck on where's the study?
Where's the evidence?
We need X, Y, and Z to back everything up.
And I'm not fighting that, but where does intuition and our innate trust in our body
and our body's ability to know what is best for us?
Like, where do we find that balance of modern science while also tuning into our own intuition. Which is the basis of what spirituality is about is
if you are spiritual, but you're not maybe practicing it.
So we're getting into intuition is about listening
and becoming more in touch within.
So spiritually speaking, everybody talks about,
the books speak about the journey within. We're just
saying we're going to that quiet place where we can know what we need. So the relationship between
the practitioner and the client or the patient becomes one of a give and take relationship,
it doesn't become one where you go to the practitioner and you say, fix me.
So a lot of times we've dropped our responsibility of actually taking care of ourselves.
And we've given that to somebody else.
And it's never perfect when you give it to somebody else because they're not in your body.
So I can read your body.
I can understand it.
I can see what's going on in the eyes and the skin and take
the pulse and everything. But within a few minutes, you're shifting. So you are not the same person
anymore, right? Because you might suddenly get excited about something and you're reading an
email and you're really excited. Cortisol levels just went up, blood pressure just went up,
you know, heart rate just went up, you are now slightly different.
So if you said, okay, how much of the ashwagandha that you told me to take, you know, I took it at this time. Well, it had a different effect in you, it was the same, same ashwagandha, but it needed
a different dosage that we can guide you on for the minimum, but we don't know that in between,
like you're saying.
So really the relationship needs to be between you and yourself, then you and the practitioner or whoever.
But this whole notion that you're going to go to the doctor and he's going to fix you or she's going to fix you is kind of what we did 30 years ago.
That doesn't work anymore.
Well, it's really
outdated. And what you're describing is we have completely given away our power and we put these
and what you said in the very beginning, I very much agree with, um, not here to like vilify
modern medicine or doctors. Of course we need them for when we need them, you know, but we've
gotten to this place where we hold them at such a high pedestal that we look to them for all the
answers when we forget that we have a lot of the answers in ourself.
And it's this symbiotic relationship.
Sorry, with the doctor.
Well, we get lazy, right?
It makes us lazy.
In the same way as if we give too much medicine to the body, too many supplements to the body, the body gets lazy.
The mind also gets lazy.
It says, well, you know, let me just go to the doctor and take.
But the doctor is you know
going to take your blood or he's going to put you on a machine and he's kind of dependent on a machine
too but that machine is not organic and it doesn't exactly read what's going on right so we're kind
of guessing a lot of the time the best medicine is you're in touch with yourself you understand
yourself you you read the shifts within yourself
and then you say well i think i can take care of this with lavender today i don't need that you
know so it doesn't become and i tell most people use modern medicine for when you're in danger when
you need surgery when you need you know you got a really wicked infection. But if you keep getting a reoccurring infection,
your body's telling you need something else, you know, so it's really our responsibility,
and we shouldn't give it to somebody else. Absolutely. And you know, it's so interesting,
a friend of mine were and I were actually talking about this the other day, because her
dad's in the hospital right now. And a lot of it has to do with lifestyle factors in his life. And, you know,
and we were trying to understand like, why don't it, it feels like we're in this place right now
where the people that get it really get it right. Like, I feel like I'm begging my dad to do X, Y,
and Z for his health, get off his statins, like do all these things for his heart health.
And I'm curious to know what your perspective is on this. Do you think that like people just don't actually really believe how powerful we can be and how powerful these natural lifestyle and diet changes are? Or do you think that they just don't want to put in the work? yogic terminology as everybody is coming from a different conscious level and depending on our
conscious level so you and i are having this conversation at this conscious level if you say
something i don't understand it may just go top of my head i don't get it or i've heard about it
and i kind of grasp it a little bit or i'm really into it but i don't actually do it, or I'm really into it, and I do it. So I just take it as
different levels of some, sometimes it's interest, sometimes it's, you know, so to answer your
question, it's really about the other person. And if they don't know about it at all, well,
you know, my dad smoked, pretty much till the time he passed it was a choice he already knew cigarettes were good for
me i get it i want to smoke to that person i say well you better just enjoy your cigarette and
don't worry about if it's killing you or not because the worry is going to kill you even faster
so you know understand where you stand in life so at no point did I ever say to him, give up cigarettes, right? You've got
to understand who you're talking to as well. So I think it's a two-way thing that you've got to
understand if you're coming from a different conscious level, you've got to say, who is this
person? So when people come to me for treatments and things, you know, often I ask them, well,
what is it you want? And they say,
well, I want to be healthy. Well, okay, why do you want to be healthy? Well, then I can do the
things I want to do. What do you want to do? You know, and as you get deeper and deeper into it,
you find out that coming back to your point, people haven't thought about why they want to
be healthy and what does it mean to them? What value does it have to them? They just think, I want to be healthy, right?
So, you know, my first book, The Guru in You, is exactly that.
Point is, the guru is in you.
The teacher is in you.
Tap into it.
And I always talk about this friend of mine who used to come to me once in a while and
say, hey, I've got to be healthy.
And, you know, I ask him these questions.
Well, what do you want to be healthy? Well, you know, I guess people tell me, you know,
I should be healthy. And then I said, well, do you like drinking wine? He's like, yeah,
I love drinking wine. I said, well, you drink too much. And he's like, well, I love it.
I said, well, that's great. Are you going to give up? No, no way. I was like, okay,
well, you don't really do any exercise. Are you going to exercise? No, I don't think so.
Well, are you going to stop eating late, you know, and staying up till four in the morning?
No. You know, does it all bring you joy? He was like, yeah, it all brings me so much joy.
I said, well, then don't worry about it. So you were answering your own question. If you're joyful
about all of it, you know, Ayurvedading medicine doesn't say be healthy. It says,
here's how to be healthy. But it doesn't say you have to be healthy. Yeah, you know, so it's really
who are we speaking to is really, we have to meet that person where they're at, and see what they
actually want, not what they're saying that they want. Because most people don't actually know what
they want.
I mean, that's really profound. I can apply this to a different area of my life, but I've really been trying to call in partnership. And every time I have this conversation with a
friend, I've noticed that people will ask me, well, what exactly are you looking for in a partner?
And how do you want to feel? And why do you want partnership? And it took me a long time. And I'm
so glad I had enough people asking me that question that then I was able to do like,
you know, dive in deep and dig internally and really like answer those questions for myself.
And so it's interesting to hear that from, yeah, from other perspectives, like a health perspective.
And, you know, it comes back to, um, really like just, but this is what I tell people all the time
that are, they're like,
I really want to get healthy, but I'm struggling with like where to start.
And I say, well, you need to figure out your why, why do you want to be healthy?
Because that will be your motivation for me, my motivation to eat well, to get enough sunlight,
get enough sleep every day to really like take care of myself is because I know it meant
it mentally affects me.
And I also don't, I don't want to die of a disease that I know it meant it mentally affects me. And I also don't,
I don't want to die of a disease that I know that I could be preventing, you know? And so those are
my wise and those are my motivations. But if you have someone like your friend, that's just like,
Oh, I don't know. Like I heard it's good to be healthy and I want to be, but like, I don't
really, he's not going to have any motivation to change any of his lifestyle. And he's,
and he's actually enjoying, it, not that he's enjoying not being
healthy. It's just the things that he enjoys are not healthy. Yeah. Right. So he's not going out
of his way. And I don't think people are going out of their way to be unhealthy. It's just
the things that they enjoy doing, ends up being, you know, kind of not healthy for the,
I mean, for me, my motivation is i find it really
boring getting sick because you can't do the things you want to do you have to sleep in bed
it's like super boring so my motivation is i won't get to do the things i want to do so i'm going to
stay healthy yeah right so i think the why is a very important part of it and then a lot of the
times people get to that point, they're like,
I don't think I'm going to do the work. Well, you just save yourself a whole lot of worry
by just coming to the why and saying, well, this is, you know, I enjoy these things. It's maybe
unhealthy, but hey, I'm still going to do them. Great. Go ahead and do them. Nobody should tell
you not to do them. Yeah, exactly. More power to you. And I constantly like to remind my listeners that
I'm just here as the messenger. If people are receptive of the message that I have,
and they're looking for ways to better their health, that's what I'm here for.
You can take what works for you, leave the rest. I'm not saying you have to do this. I'm not saying
this is my way or the highway. I'm just saying you have to do this. I'm not saying this is, you know,
my way or the highway. I'm just simply trying to provide people a roadmap and then they can
choose whatever they want to do with their lifestyle and based on what feels good for them.
Exactly. I mean, the interesting thing about health is you can do something about it because
it's you. When you're talking about a relationship or wanting one
now you got two people it's a different ball game yeah that's something i've had a remedy in myself
well i mean ultimately in all relationships we're kind of we are attracting whatever we're putting
out so i always say in my experiences when i shifted different things that i're putting out. So I always say, in my experiences, when I shifted different
things that I was putting out based on what I was thinking and what my values were,
I think the bottom line is, we will have to find somebody that our values match,
which is the sort of the underlying thing. So I'm in relationship with my wife, she's a yogini,
we walk the yogic path that is what bounds us together
and then of course all the rest of it is beautiful it's like what grows on top but the ground
underneath the roots of those are those things that we find great value in and that we will always
and so that kind of feeds us both yeah well it's the foundation that everything is built on.
Without that foundation, everything else is going to crumble eventually.
Yeah.
And then whatever happens on the top, it will come and go.
It will break up.
It will fall down.
We have to rebuild.
Many things will happen.
But you always find that foundation is beautiful.
So you lean on it.
It's like wartime now in ukraine um i i was
living in iran when the revolution started and war broke out it was the basis of how people came
together was the root of it it wasn't um it was out of the necessity and the building and you know
the comradeship of it all the surface stuff just goes away building and, you know, the comradeship of it,
all the surface stuff just goes away in those moments, you know,
9-11 when I was in New York,
surface stuff just wipes itself away and only the root stays in all people.
Yeah. So it's an interesting time.
Yeah, it really is.
So you touched on something that I want to dive a little
bit more into, because I don't really understand too much about this. You mentioned you guys both
live the yogic lifestyle. Is that what you said? Can you kind of explain to people a little bit
what that means? So there are four books of knowledge. They are the oldest books we know of.
They're called the Vedas. And Arya Veda, which is the medicine side of India, comes from the Vedas. And Arya Veda, which is the medicine side of India comes from the Vedas. Yoga also
comes from the Vedas, and many other books as well. So yoga is all about the mind beyond the
mind, meditation, mindfulness, all that, and controlling the mind, what your thoughts are.
And then Arya Veda is all about your lifestyle, how to keep your body
healthy, how to treat your body for any disease. So the medicinal side of life. And these two are
sister sciences, and they're interwoven because the body and the mind can't be separated. So we
treat the body and mind at the same time at the same time because if you have a headache
you're you won't feel good that means your body won't feel good either so we treat the body as
well as because when our body has something going on with it say we have a kidney problem
then when our mind doesn't feel great either because we have a pain, right? So we treat both of them. So the yogic life is about
first thing in the morning and throughout your day, coming out of a certain way of thinking,
a certain way of living. So we dedicate the first three hours or so of our morning
to different practices. We do different cleansing practices for the body because the body's been
sleeping. It's accumulated toxicity. The body typically at nighttime cleanses itself a lot.
A lot of mucus gathers. We expel all that stuff. We do various different treatments on ourselves.
And then we sit, we do rituals, we do meditation, we do our yoga postures, breathing, mantras, chanting.
So all of that we dedicate to the divine within us.
Because divinity is within everybody.
And mainly that yogic practices are so we recognize divinity in other people.
That way we don't really have a problem with you know anybody
right because you are as i am so when we're talking about all that surface stuff goes away
all the surface stuff of our personality and our opinions and what we think and if we're
democrats republicans and jews and christians and whoever kind of goes away. Now I can see you at the core level and you are me.
And how I treat you is like my sister, like my brother.
So that is basis of yogic thinking and philosophy.
And then we take that energy that we create in that first few hours of the
morning and we take that and that becomes the way we deal with life
and then at night time we go through a little bit more practice as well so we've kind of bookended
our days in this energy if you like so it's very physical very mental and then it becomes spiritual
that's where i said everybody is spiritual, but not everybody's practicing spirituality.
And that's what yogis do.
Yogis dedicate part of their days to these practices.
And those books have been there 5, 6, 7,000 years.
And they describe in them how man will go through these times you know times of war conflict technology you know or military you know all this kind of stuff and how did they know that you know six seven thousand years ago and they
probably knew it before that because they didn't live like us you know they weren't so into the
material they were much more into the ethereal They lived in forests and they were part of nature.
And so they knew how life was going.
They saw how things were.
So they brought all these practices to us.
So we could find relief in it.
We could heal ourselves.
We could become more intuitive, self-sufficient, but not self-serving.
And then that was the part that we would then help others in what we knew.
And everybody was trained in different things.
So you could go to the surgeon.
You would go to a practitioner.
You would go to the elders. So you always had guidance going forward,
especially from the elders. So because we were more tribal. Right. So through the age of
technology, we've kind of become splintered and more and we're all in our little boxes.
And pretty much all our health problems come from that. The fact that we're all in our little boxes. And pretty much all our health problems come from that.
The fact that we're all in our little boxes.
We need to all come out and play.
Yeah, and reconnect with each other. I mean, all I kept thinking as you were describing all that is, wow, what a, I mean, at least for me personally, I think what a wonderful way to live.
I mean, I can really resonate with that, that sense of, um, that
kind of tribal living where you're living in nature and you're one with nature and, um, you
have elders that you can go to for advice. Like I just think about how, uh, you know, we talked
about this before we started recording, but I just moved. And then I had all this stuff come up with
work and my business and everything all at once. And it was like, it just felt like chaos. And I
was looking for advice and God,
how amazing would that be to have like, you know, just like an elder to talk to,
like my grandparents aren't around anymore. So you look to like your peers and I don't know,
just this whole, I feel like the way that we live our lives now, we are so disconnected from,
from our community. And how do we get back to that place? Like, how do we live in these modern times while also cultivating that kind of community? It's a mindset. In the same way we were talking about
asking the question of why, we have to ask ourselves that. What's more important to us?
Because we're always going to do the things that are more important to us. We're going to make time for them.
So people watch their favorite TV show.
The reason it's their favorite TV show is they make time for it.
Community is something that we used to do very well easily.
But it's still a part of us.
We have to make time for it. We have to start to kind of slowly break up more of our time and say,
I'm going to make time for going to do these things.
It's not a part of the culture anymore. You know, it's not,
but making time, I mean, for us,
from what we know from the oldest books from the elders
is people need to make time to do spiritual practice because when we're in the mind too much
we're always going to be too intellectual we're going to be too emotional we're going to
that's me pointing at myself right now i'm like that's me well because you're running a business uh you're single uh you don't have support in that saying you know in that way that you taught uh talked
about you know the elders next to you um i have many different outlets to go to i have teachers
that taught me in india i can get on a call with them i I go see them. I mean, they're far away.
I have my wife as a support system.
Then we have others, elders that we go to.
We have astrologers.
We have, you know, such a way of understanding the deepness of life that at no point do we left sort of alone unless we want to be.
That doesn't mean we have a lot of people
around me. You know, we, I mean, I see my friends very once in a while. I don't need my friends
around me. I need people around me to support sort of where I'm going in life. And I can support
them. You know, so it's not about we need to spend hours together. It means specifically,
we need to get together. So if you call me and say, Hey, I need, you know, I need some advice.
I carve out the time because it's you and it's you need it that moment. That's more because then
you keep the connectivity. And then suddenly you expand that community. So we have a community called Inspire Living.
So we have a Facebook page and we get together this weekend.
We have a group satsang.
And that's what it's for.
It's to get people more and more involved
so they reconnect if they've disconnected.
Because to your point, disconnecting brings health problems brings mental problems
brings anxiety problems depression all these things they're all really born out of being
too either solitary or being too in our own heads because that call it the bad neighborhood
the bad neighborhood is up here and you hang hang around in it too much
you know this it gets you into trouble literally because you start taking offense you start getting
upset you know um like we just painted our house and our neighbor was mowing the lawn and she just
banged into the house and you know ripped up some of the paint so i was and she was so upset and i was like it's okay
it's just paint don't worry about it i'll paint over it in a week or two or whatever whenever it
is but she was more upset because she got it into her head that the house was perfect she wasn't
she wasn't coming from well she wasn't coming from my point of view which was don't worry about it
it's just a house and it's just the wall and it will will paint at some point we may forget about pain it's not point
it's gonna get bird poop on it the dog's probably gonna lift its leg and pee on it you know like
that's what it's for so it's true so, we are getting so sensitive to everything.
Because what we're doing is we're using everything. Everything is wonderful, but we're using it in the incorrect way. So we're people complain to me all the time. Hey, Yogi, it's great. You're treating me like this. I went to my doctor and I'm like, don't complain about your doctor. So if you went to the doctor and you thought he's going to figure it out, that's not
what he's trained in. He's trained, go look up what doctors are trained in, right? You go and
you're stressing them out because, and they're going to give you an answer of something, but
their main tool is pills. If you go to a doctor, right, they're going to give you a pill. So don't
go to the doctor if you don't want to pill. That's your responsibility, right, they're going to give you a pill. So don't go to the doctor if
you don't want to pill. That's your responsibility, right? So we're using doctors in the wrong way.
We're using technology half the time in the wrong way. We're using everything in such a mixed up
way and exaggerated way. It's just giving us problems. So technology is giving all the kids, especially who haven't, you know,
their immune system hasn't grown up. They'll go all kinds of, you know, problems and anxiety
problems, because there's Wi Fi, there's the screens that give off the blue light, you know,
they're not in sunlight, most of the time, they're in their rooms. So we're misusing things.
It's not the things don't have a
place. Finances, getting in too much debt, whatever it is, right? We're just using things in the
excessive way, let's say. And if we use it all in a proper way, it would be fine.
So you touched on something that I would love to hear your perspective on this because
I've been,
well, I think a lot of society has been struggling with this last couple of years,
this sensitivity, all of a sudden it feels as though, you know, every single thing that you say, you're walking on eggshells because you're worried that you're going to offend someone.
Someone is so sensitive about it. I just so that people can understand like where my brain comes
from in all of this, I'm not claiming any sort of like superiority, but I started really noticing this a lot in
my Instagram DMs because I, I've been talking about the same thing with health and nutrition
and how to better your health for 11 years now.
Like it's been a long time.
And I really noticed a shift in the last couple of years.
The things that I've been talking about for years, suddenly I was getting all this hate.
I was getting all these messages like, how dare you? This is so insensitive to X, Y, and Z, or
my mom died because of this. And all I kept thinking was like, how am I supposed to know
that like this would affect you in that way? And I have empathy that you're in pain,
but there's no way that we can manage every single person's entire lens that they see the world,
right? And everything that they've been through.
And I'm just curious to know why we're seeing this in society
where everyone is so sensitive about everything now.
I mean, if we look at the industrial revolution,
which came some hundred years ago,
we had 2 billion people in the world.
They were scattered everywhere.
We didn't have pollution.
We didn't have money
was there coming it wasn't quite there yet everything was slow people lived slowly the
nervous system doesn't do well when we go quickly it's just doesn't it's not built for that so in
the ayurvedic system we have what we call the earth element the which is kapha the fire element which is pitta
and the air element which is vata everything in the universe everything in the world is made of
these elements a mixture of these elements when somebody's body is bigger they have more fat on
them their bones are bigger they're just stockier they can absorb a lot of this better, because they have just that muscle mass or that
fat to deal with. When our bodies are thinner and thinner and thinner, our bones are smaller,
we get more and more nervous, right? So it has a lot to do with our elemental balance,
it has to do a lot with our constitution. But the same time we travel a lot we're in cars now
we're going at speed we're on the internet with 5g the screens that are emitting the light
everything is becoming more and more artificial and now we're going to go into the metaverse and
we're going to put on ai glasses and we're going
to be in that zone so from a hundred years we've suddenly gone from slow slow slow to i mean we've
just gone up in fastness everything is super fast that's why we think life is going by so quickly
right if you ask your grandparents back in the day they'd be like yeah life was just
normal it was going slow you know but within the last 50 40 years everything is zipping by and even
the older people like what's happened to life where has it gone you know that is just hammering
the nervous system so we have 11 systems in the body. If your nervous system
is getting shot and overloaded, that means your digestion will be off. That means your endocrine
glands will be secreting way too many hormones in different directions. Cortisol levels will be up.
Serotonin will be low. All the chemicals will be be off so when i'm looking at patients and clients
from the last just 20 years or 10 years i'm seeing typically women are getting men's issues what we
used to call men's issues because women have come into the workplace and they're not i wouldn't say
competing but doing what the man's job was so to speak and then trying to keep
up with it but our female's body isn't built the same way and the hormones are slightly different
and then you know women are trying to have kids and then have some time off and then it's like a
super stressor right and then we don't give, we're not very kind and very empathetic
towards women are different than men
and we expect everything.
So what's happening is we're just going so fast.
Technology is kind of helping us,
but at the same time, not helping us,
making everything too fast as well.
And the body is just trying to cope. So now we're in a coping mechanism, not in a thriving mechanism.
And that hands down seems to be everybody's story across the board, whether I talk to people in
Paris, whether I talk to people in London, LA, wherever they are, even people living in the
countryside, you'd think, you know, farmers are having a great are, even people living in the countryside, you'd think,
you know, farmers are having a great time, they're out in the country, they're outdoors,
they're all stressed, right? People are in more debt, people are in more finances situation,
people want more. So I think it's a culmination of this total lifestyle that we've chosen and then of course
bring in the pollution side of it air is polluted food's polluted water's polluted
it doesn't look good for the future you know and not to be a you know not to be not optimistic
but we have all contributed to it to a larger or smaller degree right um we have to now
understand is you know years ago we used to just take a walk and go you know do simple things and
now we've made life so complicated we need entertainment in everything we do right so
people are entertaining themselves with spirituality,
with health, you know, they're off to a retreat and then, you know, they come home and just do
the same things they did before and going to a retreat for weeks, not going to do anything,
you know? Wow. Okay. So that, so were you done? I didn't mean to interrupt. No, it's,
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how you live your life and how you have these practices that you do for a couple of hours every
morning and at night, and you're really, you have it down, like you have figured out how to kind of apply the spirituality into your life.
How, what about people that are listening right now? And they're like, yes, like this is really
speaking to me. I'm struggling with the stresses of life and I want to figure out how to incorporate
spirituality in my life, but I don't have, you know, three hours in the morning to dedicate to
that. Like, where does someone start? What's kind of the baby steps to start trying to get into this where they can it can be manageable for them um my point of view is we're past baby steps
yeah we it's like saying it's kind of funny when i listen i don't listen to the news very often but
once in a while it pops up on my phone or something and people arguing about
whether things are polluted or not you know if the icebergs are melting my point of view is what we
can see through science is that it is way more polluted now if you were i i don't even want to
talk about climate change climate change is or it isn. The point is the earth can't deal with,
we're going to be 8 billion people soon
with just taking so much from the land.
Even if you believe in climate change or not,
it's not the point.
That many cars spitting out that much carbon monoxide,
that many planes, that many food that we have to
create, that much water we have to use, right? So I don't even get into conversations about climate
change. I'm just saying, if, and what's happening is, if we just keep taking as we do. We've gone past taking baby steps. That we can't do anymore. You know,
I can tell you when you get up in the morning, drink some hot water. Is it going to take care
of all your problems? No. Is it going to be a start? Yes. Is it going to be a good start?
I don't know what your digestion is like already. If your digestion is pretty good,
it's a good start. If your digestion isn't good, it's an okay start, you're going to need to do a
bunch of other things. I think what people are asking for when they say what are the baby steps,
especially my clients, or people who come to me, I say, what you're saying from the beginning is I'm not ready
for this. Right. Because if somebody says to you, how much money do you need? You don't go,
well, you know, 10 bucks should do it. I'm like, I want millions. Right. Right. You start going,
well, how much could you give me? And if the other person goes, well, how much could you give me yeah and and if the other person goes well how much do you want
you're like you start saying what you really want right yeah so why don't we do the same thing with
the thing that's most precious to us which is our health forget about spirituality spirituality
will definitely elevate your consciousness and your life to places that
you've never been before that's aspirational if you don't do it and and it's inspirational if you
start to do that can be a choice but health is not really a choice in that same way because
if your kidney doesn't function properly because you you've been drinking too much, or you're not taking care of yourself, baby steps are not going to do it. So when it comes to health,
I always tell people, forget about baby steps. Look at yourself in the mirror, whatever you need
to do and go. This is where we're at. This is serious. Let's get I am worth way more than baby
steps. What am I really going to do? And let me start getting serious about it.
Because if I'm sleeping late, eating late, and I'm doing all the late things,
ask myself, if I enjoy it a lot, then let me just keep doing it. If it's taking away from my
enjoyment and my health, and that's more important to me, I'm going to have to do a few things and cut out a little bit of my day, maybe get up
earlier in the morning. You know, people like, well, I don't want to, I don't want to get up at
four or get up at six. If you're sleeping until seven, get up at six. It's really investing in
yourself. So I'm not asking you and you're not asking, saying invest in us. We're saying
this investment is in yourself. So do you want to invest in yourself? Right? That's all we're
asking you. Because you're saying is I want A, B and C. And that's my goal. And I'm saying,
well, it's going to take you getting up at this time, doing this, eating that. So whatever your goal is, I can
help you to get there, but I'm not carrying you. That's what I'm telling you. I'm not carrying you.
No, and no one else should. And you know what? Here's the thing that never works because if the
person is not willing to put in the work and they don't actually want to change, the change won't
happen. No one else can force you to it. Yeah. And I can tell you there's a million courses out there and retreats and
all kinds of things, which will tell you different. They'll tell you just sign here and get this done
and, you know, pay this amount and you'll be fine. And what I'm telling you is if you've done it
twice, you already got the experience. That's not what it, how it works.
There's some work to be done and enjoy the work. Well then, okay. So let me reword this because, well, I I'm asking for myself as well, cause I'm curious. So, um, I have really, I've gotten to a
place where I feel like, um, I've, I've really tackled like the diet, the sleep, the mental health aspect. I believe mental health is a lifelong journey that we go through.
But I feel like I'm in a place where I'm in growth and all that and introspective and stuff.
But I guess for me where I'm really struggling with is this last piece of you speak a lot about spirituality.
And I feel like it creeps a lot into my life because of what I explained earlier.
I've gotten really in touch with my body and my intuition and my diet and all that. What would
be something, what would be kind of a next step? I mean, would that mean meditating in the morning
kind of where, I guess I'm just kind of curious, like I need a roadmap. Where do I go next?
It's like your health. You get up in the morning, you check in with yourself how do i feel what's going on
and i tell people sit up in bed um actually one thing we tell people my wife and i when we teach
together we said before you get up out of bed in that moment before you get up and you're kind of
groggy sleepy not awake but you're waking if you can start to remind yourself to set an intention at that moment it's the best time
you're coming out of this new from one brain wave to another great time to start to set an intention
because if you set it then before starting to think about anything else it'll be stronger in
your head all right something it could be for your day could be a repetitive intention. It's just you're
making your resolve in that moment saying, I believe in this, this is what I'm going to do
today. And then you start to wake up. From there, I always tell people check in before you get up
and you start doing stuff, your phone, you know, have your phone in the other room, by the way,
your phone, if it's anywhere near you, it's a distraction.
Plus, it's putting out the wave.
The Wi-Fi wave is right next to your ear.
It's not good.
That will make you more nervous.
Get up and see how you feel.
Check in.
You know, how's my stomach?
How's my digestion?
Then I tell people, you know, have a glass of hot water. And then
after that, brush your teeth, have a shower and all that. Now come to your mat. Do some yoga
postures. Why? Because we're opening, expressing openness of the body. This starts to help the
cells, the body's energy move and awaken.
And after that, we do some pranayama, some breathing
practices. It doesn't have to be a lot. On Inspire Living, we
have all of these kind of starter video and then the
second video and the third video. And they're called daily
practice videos. And then after breathing, you either do some
chanting or you do some meditation
with a mantra or something like that. Because remember, the brain and the mind, the mind will
just start floating around, it's got 1000s of thoughts. If we don't give it one thing to focus
on, which is usually a mantra or something, it will wander off and it will take you on this other journey while you're
trying to do your practice. So that's why we get the body into a place where it's expanded.
Now I can sit on the floor and not move. Now I can do my breathing practices without moving.
That's why we do mainly the yoga postures. Now I'm taking hold of my prana which is my breath which is connected
directly to my senses the way i'm going to calm down my senses which are always looking out hearing
out touching out you know tasting i'm going to subdue them all because there's no way i'm going
to meditate with a heightened you know stimulated senses that want to eat and want
to look at my phone. And so I subdue them with these breathing practices. Then when everything
is calm, nervous system is calm, then I can sit for some meditation. If my mind is too busy,
you can't meditate, then you do some spiritual reading, right? Now you've just created and you don't worry about how many minutes you've done
or how many hours you've just created the body in a stable place the mind is in that spiritual place
now you can reaffirm your intention and then go out into your day and live with that energy
and that's basically where we tell people to start is
start in the morning. Then if you can at nighttime as well, even if you sit for 10 minutes,
go through your day in your head, how can I do it better? What can I do better? How can I do better
for other people? Maybe you do a meditation, maybe you listen to something, and you bookend your days with that energy.
Now, your life shifts. These people will shift outside your circle a little bit. These new people
start to shift inside your circle. This work will shift a little bit outside your circle.
This work will shift inside. things will start to shift around
the first thing i tell people is when you start to do spiritual practice
things will move so be okay with them because you're the creator of that energy
so don't be upset at it when your friend who's not very spiritual wants to drink a lot doesn't call
you because you just created a different energy and you just told the
universe i want something different so be happy with what's there so to answer your question
that's really the beginning that's not baby steps that's a step that's an adult step
i'm all about taking adult steps with adults. Yeah. Yeah. I love that because your
approach is very much the approach that I take when I, when I talk to people about health and
nutrition and food, I'm like, I'm not going to hold your hand through this. And I'm sorry if
that's, if that sounds harsh, but you know, the reality of the situation is whatever you're
dealing with, whether it's diabetes or obesity or whatever it is, it's like, we need to face this head on and we can't sugarcoat this, you know, and I'm going to bring a lot of love and
compassion to it. And I have a lot of empathy, but we also need to address it, you know, and I like
your approach with that. Which they come to you for that. Yeah. So you can't blame somebody and
tell them what you want. And then when they tell you how to get there, they'd say, hey, what are
you talking about?
Exactly. Well, and again, it comes back to, you know, you take what works for you and you leave
the rest. And, you know, that's just kind of what life is. Yeah. I mean, taking an adult step for me
means being rational about it in terms of, I know my capabilities, My capabilities are a lot bigger sometimes than what I'm actually going
to do. So always know that you're way more capable, but you have to have somewhere to start.
That doesn't need to be this tiny step where it's insignificant and then you probably won't do it
again. It needs to be enough to get your attention enough to keep you interested and enough to build on that's an adult step yeah right that's that's
something we can start to grow in and and if i'm going to teach you and i'm your practitioner
next time you come i don't want to be talking about the same thing i'll get super bored
i'll be like you didn't do that?
Well, because then you just go in circles and you're like, you know, you get to a certain
point where you're like, I can't help you if you're not going to help yourself.
Well, it's like being at work and your boss has told you to go do something and you come
back and you didn't do it.
And you're just like, ah.
And you're like, it's not personal.
So don't take offense.
We just, we're in the system and
the system works in a certain way and work needs to get done when we're talking about health and
spirituality people tend to think it can wait because it's not that important and other things
are more important well nothing's more important than your health and i hope nothing's more
important than getting more conscious
yeah i think everything else needs to come out of that energy that you create not opposite way
around and say well you know i'm so tired i couldn't meditate well if you're so tired and
you can't you should re-evaluate your life and say if i can't sit for 10 minutes or 20 minutes or half an hour, whatever, I'm not living
an abundant life and I need to reevaluate my life. Yeah. And I find this so interesting because,
you know, I'm not placing judgment on this, but I think so many don't have their priorities in
line because I hear this all the time. Oh, I don't have time to take care of my health. I don't have
time to sleep. I don't have time for X, Y, and Z. And I'm like, but without your health,
you won't have time or the ability to do all the things that you want to do in life. That should
literally be number one, because when you can show up for yourself and you're healed and, um,
taking care of yourself and it's kind of, it's that concept on the airplane, right? It's like,
you've got to put on your oxygen first before you can show up in the world and help others and be the person you want to be showing up in the world and doing the things you want to do.
Yeah.
Well, to all those people, I always say the same thing.
Empower yourself by saying, I'm not making time for it yet.
But don't say I don't have time because we all have 24 hours a day.
It's how we're using it.
You do have the time.
So be empowered and say, I'm just not making time for it now.
That way, you know, you have a choice rather than putting yourself in this box of, you
know, I don't have the time because everybody's busy.
Everybody's doing, you know, a hundred things.
But it's what you do with it.
I choose to get up earlier
and then by time 12 o'clock comes I've done so many different things I can then actually go
work out I can go do some other things I want to do because I've made it a priority and I think
you know everybody can do this is make it a priority to do healthy things during
the day. You know, whether that's exercise, morning, spiritual practice, whatever, you'll
find that the more health you bring into your life, the more time you have. Because when we're
feeling better, we're healthier, we make better choices. And hands down, anybody I've worked with,
because first thing I do with people is,
what's your routine?
Tell me all about it.
You know, I do this, this is what time I get up,
this is what time I go to bed, this is what...
The routine is so full of so many different things
you don't need to do,
and you're taking too long to do them,
that we can crack it, make it healthier,
and then suddenly you have so
much more time i did this with my sister one time you know i don't have time okay that's fine in the
end we found two hours right and it wasn't a rush day it was everything but then i found out she
didn't really actually want to do it well that's a big one. So as my sister's, I could put her on the spot.
You're like, I can call you out because we're related.
But that's the point is you do actually have more time than you think.
Yeah. Well, and I found, so I will admit, and I'm not proud of this, but I have struggled to find
a morning routine and practice where I meditate in the morning. And I have not proud of this, but I have struggled to find a morning routine and practice where I
meditate in the morning. And I have these kinds of spiritual things implemented.
I've been dancing around it, meaning that like, I pretty much am almost there and ready to really
start doing that. But what's interesting is I was having a conversation with someone recently about
this and he was very, you know, very adamant and advocating for meditation. And I said, you know,
I just feel like I don't have the time to do it in the morning. And he looks at me and he goes, that's literally why you have to do it. And I was
like, whoa, but it's so true. And that really stuck with me. Um, I've been doing baby steps.
I'm, I'm finally starting to do journaling in the morning. So I do the five minute journal
in the morning and five minutes at night. And that's kind of been my like, starting point into all of this.
Great. Whatever you're willing to do, just do it. Yeah, that's all. You know, I say to people,
you don't need to think about the timing of it. If you're doing it, and however much you're doing,
that's how much you're willing to do. Eventually, you'll do more but don't you know wherever you're at just get on with it
don't worry about the time you know they're on six minutes ten minutes don't worry about it doesn't
matter um i do three hours i don't even think it's three hours it just zips by i'm done then
getting on with all the other things i have to do you can get just as much out of doing less than that you just have to
be committed involved into it by the way there's so many different types of meditations you could
do it's the meditation isn't about just sitting quietly because a lot of people just can't sit
quietly their body aches their mind is all over the place, you know, so the
rishis, the seers of the past, the reason we go to all those
books are they gave us so many different practices for all the
different personalities. So you don't have to fit yourself into
a box of, oh, I have to just sit there quietly, you will find
something that your mind is suited to. Some people suited to
visualization, some people suited to. Some people are suited to visualization.
Some people are suited to mantras.
Some people are suited to staring at geometrical form.
Some people listen to sound.
There's all kinds.
But, you know, it scares people off a little bit by saying,
well, I feel awkward about it.
There's many different practices.
So you'll find one that you will like. Yeah, I feel awkward about it. There's many different practices. So you'll find one that
you will like. Yeah, I love that. It's all about finding what works best for you.
Yeah, but it's got to challenge you enough that you're interested in it. That's where intuition
has to come into it. A little quiet time sitting, and our intention needs to be, I'm going to do
this, right? That's where we check in. You know, some days I'm'm going to do this right that's where we check in you know
some days i'm not going to do certain things i already know it the day before i don't waste my
time i'm like i'm not going to do that tomorrow okay good i'm glad got it out of the way i didn't
think about it yeah okay glad we figured that out yeah yeah it's just being honest with yourself
instead of being disappointed at yourself.
Yeah. You know, disappointment is like, well, why waste your time being disappointed and stuff?
Whatever you're doing, get on with doing it, but do it really well. You know, whatever you're doing,
you know, if you're drinking, be a good drinker. If you're a healthy person, be a good healthy person. Don't be a healthy person and nag other people or, you know,
put everybody down or, you know.
So, you know, one time I was, I'm not a vegan,
but one time I was with somebody who was a vegan and they were so angry.
I was like, you're really showing up the vegans.
Don't be so angry.
I've been on the receiving end of that as well.
And it doesn't feel good.
It's like, I thought you guys were in this for compassion, for other living beings, and I'm not feeling like I'm being compassionate.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that was one example.
It could be a meat eater.
It could be whatever.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not trying to single them out, but just it is ironic.
It's more about, you know, is what we're doing bringing us joy?
Are we a happy person?
Are we, you know, we've got a very limited time here
on the earth. How are we using it? And how are we to other people, you know, that should be
something that we're proud of, you know, something that we're really looking forward to being kind to
others and compassionate and loving, even if they're not to us you know that should be our
rule if somebody is being mean or somebody's calling us names or whatever out on shouting
us down on social media we should be even kinder to them you know so it's it's practicing they're
giving us the opportunity to practice being kind right because if we didn't have the opposites in the world we
wouldn't you know life wouldn't be so full yeah yeah well because it's easy to be nice to someone
who's nice to you it's a challenge to be nice to someone who's not yeah i mean i have a lot of fun
with people who are haters it's it's kind of i just think you know it's it's a it's a it's not maybe the word is challenged to bring them
around and say i am actually just like you and you are just like me you know maybe we have a
difference on something you know but we can be friends and even if we're not friends we can
you know help each other because um you know when i was in 9 11 walking down the street i went
to afghanistan teach meditation some years ago believe me when the bomb goes off when the when
you need somebody you will turn around and you will look at anybody right it doesn't matter what
the race they are color gender you know all that surface stuff that
you're so worried about will just go out the window and you will be so happy that person is
there that's how we should live that we're just happy you know that our neighbor smashed into our
wall and ruined our pain and then have a good laugh about it.
It's literally that because we're not going to care about any of this stuff down the road.
Yeah.
It's a great reminder to not put so much weight on the things that don't
really matter that much because you're not going to be on your deathbed
thinking back like, God, my neighbor that scratched my house, you know,
like that's not what you're going to be reflecting on.
And this is something I try to remind myself a lot.
Not at all.
Just a spiritual practice will help you.
What it has done for us is, and hands down for everybody I know, is don't worry about that surface stuff.
All the politics, all the religion, all this and that, and there's conflicts and people said this or somebody
all that stuff goes away everybody is just equal everybody is just fine no matter who they are what
they believe in what they decide to say you know sometimes i see on the feed you know some guys
shouting something and i'm like oh okay I hope everybody doesn't mind listening to that
yeah exactly and I leave it on there for a few days you know because I tell people in the community
you have to be tolerant with people if you take offense if you don't take offense you don't have
to practice tolerance right so it depends who you are it's like you don't have to practice tolerance. Right? So it depends who you are. It's like,
you don't need to forgive anybody if you didn't hold on to anything. Interesting.
If you held on to something, now you got to forget. Right? It's kind of like preventative
medicine. If you prevented something happening, because you took your supplements, you helped
yourself, you did your practice, you don't need to think about being sick but if you got sick because you didn't do all the things you needed to do now you got
spend even more time on healing because prevention is way easier than curing something it's way easier
not to hold on to something but as soon as you do hold on to it it takes for some years and some people never even
forgive anybody yeah so it's really that it's it's spiritual practice does that for you beyond
anything i've ever seen is helping you to let go even if it gets you in the moment you let it go
let it be yeah no that i mean i feel like everything you just said i have to have a moment to process
because that was really um yeah that really spoke to me well that's why you and i found each other
as well we we will all find each other a different there's people right now on podcasts that hate you
know saying oh hateful stuff and some people are saying loving things some people talk about health
others everybody will find each
other at the conscious level that they're at or getting at yeah that's because we have an intention
of doing what we do right so that's all that's why it's not a big effort we just need to keep
on the road just keep doing what we do keep open open. And eventually, you know, we'll get
where we're going in our own way. And everybody will find each other at their own level. And it's
okay. Yeah, absolutely. And what a beautiful way of looking at it, you know, because then it kind
of takes it, it's no longer a personal thing. It's just people are just meeting each other where
they're at, and finding each other. Yeah. And that's we we've asked for it on on on a level we've asked for it yeah um we're often very upset at people
for telling us things that we wanted to be told you know and things that we were looking for
and they and then we're saying but you asked for it so here it is you but you asked for it. So here it is. You know, you asked for pizza, here's pizza, but pizza gave you a stomachache, but you
asked for pizza.
You don't get upset at the pizza guy because he gave you pizza, it gave you a stomachache.
So we're doing very obvious things, wanting a different result, but knowing, well, if
I've been down that road and I'm of a certain age and i've done that before i know what's down that road and if i go down that road i decided to go down that road right
so i should do it joyously i guess you know instead of moaning that it's that road again
because you took yourself down it you know so we're doing all these things i think we live in this
another thing we we have is we live in the age of information the information is out there
right there's all kinds of information people now worried they're listening to misinformation
you will be prone to misinformation if you're looking for it. If you keep your eyes closed, keep some silence, do some meditation, walk slower, do everything slower, you will come to the truth.
If you're walking too fast, running too fast, trying to get too much done and running, running, running, running, of course, you'll miss things.
And you will be prone to all kinds of different things right so the truth is also like all the
books will say is within you right so if you're looking for that truth the truth
then you've got to go within that that's sort of floating around with misinformation outwardly
because anybody can say whatever they want yeah But that truth people are looking for is inside of you,
but you've got to go slower.
Yeah.
You have to dig in deep to find the truth.
Wow.
This conversation, I'm beyond grateful that we got connected.
Just like I said, yeah, really a lot of what you were saying
was really speaking to me.
And what's so funny is I might have to have you come back on.
I want to be mindful of your time because I had so many questions that I wanted to go into, you know,
nutrition and food and, um, that I didn't get into, but I'm so grateful that it went the way
that it did. It was meant to be, it was meant to go this way. Oh yeah. And all the people were
listening. They'll be attracted to this. You know, that's all we do. throw the we throw the hook out for fishing and we put the right
bait on it and then everybody comes you and i find each other the other people find us
but yeah i'll be happy to talk to you about all kinds of stuff because
ayurveda and yoga basically cover all of life because everything comes out of health and
spirituality yeah so that's uh that's what I think people, you know,
if we educated our kids from the beginning
in health and spirituality,
the whole world would just change within 20 years.
It would just shift completely.
It would become ecological.
People would love the land.
They would live off the land.
We would shift all the things and start to
put them in this in their places rather than this sort of haphazard way that we grab at things and
try this try that try this you know i always tell people if you're trying on a t-shirt and you want
to try on 10 of them fantastic go for it it won't hurt. But if you're doing that with your health and spirituality,
you're taking a lot of risks, and you're not growing in your foundation, right? There's many
paths, many things to do, but keep doing the same thing when it comes to health and spirituality.
If you find a way in health that really works for you, keep doing it. don't jump into another thing right and spirituality definitely
it needs 20 30 40 50 years to bloom you know you may get some quick buzz off it for a few days you
know when you start but it's that you're in it five years you're in it 10 years you're in it
you know nothing particular is happening but you know you're in it 10 years, you're in it, you know, nothing particular is happening,
but you know, you're growing. Yeah, that's what you want. It's not about the ups and downs in spirituality. Well, and then as you get deeper into it, you realize just how much it really
betters your life and your relationship with yourself. I mean, that's something that I've
really been realizing, I was so focused on just the
health aspect of things that I was completely negating everything else that was going on in
my life, the stress. I had some pretty, I had a horrible traumatic thing happen to me as a kid.
And, you know, I found myself in my thirties wondering like, why am I still suffering so hard?
I'm eating well, I'm exercising, I'm doing X, Y, and Z. And it wasn't until I really started unpacking all of that, that I went through as a kid that I realized like,
oh, this is the missing piece here. This was not allowing me to connect with myself because I was
ignoring the elephant in the room, which was this trauma. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, you should have my wife
Yogini Jamar on there. She's the scientist of the mind.
Oh, I would love to.
Oh, yeah.
The mind is storehouse of all,
everything you've ever been through is in your subconscious.
And you reap and everybody just replays it.
So most of the spiritual practices we're doing on,
not to erase, we can't erase that tape,
is to create new impressions. So it's like a videotape
of your whole life so this conversation just went into our subconscious we will pull from it again
and again and again in conversations and our dreams and but making new impressions to take
the place of those old impressions from when we were in the womb,
when we were one, two, three, four, when we were just making up our little being that we are,
right? We're taking care of our nephew now, and we're playing mantras for him. He sleeps here a
couple of days a week. His parents are dancers. He kind of gets that lifestyle going. And here,
he gets everything spiritual. So he does rituals in lifestyle going. And here he gets everything spiritual.
So he does rituals in the morning.
And you see how his little brain is taking in everything.
And we're doing that because we're setting that brainwave in a certain way.
So when he is seven and eight and everything's kind of done and set,
he now has this open view of what the world is,
but he knows how to take care of himself inwardly.
That's so beautiful.
And I wish everyone was doing this with their kids because like you said
earlier, I think we would be in a different place.
We will be.
We're not there yet.
We think in the age of technology,
we actually think we are advancing so spiritually we think
we're on apps and this and that we're meditating and we're using it you know making our booking at
the same time and we're meditating i uh in our heads thinking that we're advancing
spiritually because now information is everywhere spiritually but at some time we will we will come
to that place where we're evolved we're not there yet because we're too distracted. We have the capability totally,
but we're just too distracted with gadgets
and programs and this and that.
And we don't know how to use things yet,
but slowly, slowly we'll get there.
I'm optimistic that we're going to get there.
Oh yeah, we will get there.
Yeah, especially with people like you.
I'm just so grateful for your voice in this space.
And before we go, I wanted to ask you, because I ask all my guests this at the very end,
what are your health non-negotiables? So these are things that no matter how busy your day is,
these are things that you do for your health. Spiritual practice in the morning is non-negotiable. It's what I do to make the rest of the day happen.
Food, my diet, I mainly eat Ayurvedic food, which means it's in certain mixtures.
You know, I'm not eating and drinking at the same time, not the quantity of food that I eat is exactly
what my body needs in the moment. So those are the those are a few, I mean, I can go on and say
a whole bunch more, but what you put into your body, your diet is going to affect you.
And how you start the morning, and how you end end the night is the two biggest factors that are going to
affect your sleep and affect how you wake up and the rest of your day. So those two things
are non-negotiable. I have to go to bed by doing some mantras and spiritual practice,
and I have to get up and do that. in between what i eat needs to sustain me so
after that life happens all kinds of things happen right so those are my non-negotiables
but then you're prepped for life and anything that gets thrown at you because you've put in
kind of in that foundational work for it yeah. And then you can deal with pretty much all that comes
and some days you can't eat what you want to eat, but I can tone down the quantity and I can put
more pepper on it. I can do this. I can do that. You know, I can do things because my mindset is
how can I make that thing that I'm eating healthy if it's not healthy?
I love that. So for everyone listening, where can they find you? Maybe just tell them a little bit about 108 Beauty. We touched on it in the beginning, but I want people to know that 108
exists and where they can find it. So 108, you can find it at 108.health. So instead of.com,
you just put.health. There you'll find three different
products. One is Trifola for the GI tract. One is Ashwagandha, which is for the mind and the
strength of the body. And one is Purify, which is for cleansing of the respiratory system.
People love taking the three of them together. They're kind of what we call the synergy system.
As I said, we have 11 systems in the body
and we take care of cleaning out
and strengthening three of those major ones,
which really help the others.
So at 108.health, you can find that products.
And then at inspireliving.co.
So not inspired, but inspireliving.co. So not inspired, but inspire living.co. You'll find all the yogic
practices that I'm talking about Ayurvedic eating, all of those videos, how to do it,
how long to do it, all of that is there. And really, the idea is that these two portals
websites support each other. So you go to one for products and you
go to the other one for practices amazing well i'm going to leave all the show all these links
in the show notes so that people can find you and yeah thank you so much for coming on today
yeah thanks for having me it really helps uh spreading the word and what you're doing is
amazing too um basically saying the same things using similar language
and we have same intention.
So it's a good ride.
Yeah, it really is.
I love that.
It's very aligned.
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