Regina Swarn Audio Series Presents - From Street Ministry To Streetwear: Building Dunamis Perception With Purpose

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

Fan MailWhat if your wardrobe could testify before you say a word? We sit with Prophetess Roberta Ford to trace the roots of Dunamis Perception—a faith-based streetwear brand born from street minist...ry, family legacy, and a conviction that God’s view of us should define our style. Raised by single mothers and grandmothers who taught stewardship and dignity, Roberta and Apostle A.B. Ford built a visual language that carries that legacy forward: bold colors, clear messages, and designs that spark real conversations in the hedges and highways.We talk about what it means to minister beyond the four walls, how bright hues can lift the spirit, and why modesty doesn’t require blandness. Roberta shares the story behind signatures like “Obey God (even if they don’t get it)” and “Drip With Purpose,” unpacking how camouflage palettes nod to spiritual battle while staying wearable and modern. She explains why every piece has a purpose, how weekly blog posts add fuel to the message, and why a portion of every sale helps Soldiers for Christ take the Gospel further. You’ll also hear how the family’s creative gifts converge in music and media—like the Dunamis Power video “For My Crown,” which honors their matriarchs and weaves Psalm 91 into a cinematic arc of perseverance.Along the way, Roberta challenges us to consider alignment: who makes the products we use, and what do they stand for? Kingdom people, she says, thrive when they choose kingdom-made goods that agree with their values. From books like Soldiers for Christ: A Soldier’s Manual to new releases planned with audio options, the mission is consistent—equip believers to walk in confidence, purpose, and joy. If you’ve ever wondered how faith and fashion can reinforce each other, this conversation gives you the framework, the stories, and the vision to try it on for yourself.Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves meaningful style, and leave a review with the one message tee you’d wear first.Music My free gift to the company Commrcoyÿ A message from me to all my wonderful  followers.  Please  feel free to share your feedback. Click fan mail and leave me comments.  Show endSupport the showContact swarnregina@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:47 Now let's take you into an episode of Regina Swark Audio Series. Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Regina Swarn Audio Series presents. Today I have online with me another wonderful guest, and I say this, I think I say this about every single guess. because I feel like every guest is wonderful and to take time to have me interview you about your ministry, your business, your life, and it means a lot to me. So today I have with me prophetess Roberta Ford. And let me tell you just a little bit about prophetess Roberta Ford.
Starting point is 00:01:52 She is a servant of the Lord, an entrepreneur, author, wife, and mother. Please help me welcome to the show, prophetess Roberto Ford. Hello, Ms. Ford, how are you? I am wonderful, and how are you? It is a blessing, a blessing that we finally were able to get together and sit down for this amazing interview and the opportunity to be on your wonderful podcast. Oh, thank you. And it's a blessing just to have you here.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I mean, I just want to tell you how much I love your company. I really, it's in the podcast. It's always getting commercial going. And I think a lot of you all, you and your husband, Apostle, A.B. Ford, who was on our show right about a month ago, maybe a little bit better. That podcast did so well. And we're still waiting for part, too. but part one is still one of the top podcasts right now and it was just amazing how many people really tuned in
Starting point is 00:03:07 and really enjoyed the after, can I say after mass? The aftermath of the recording and really, they would just ask you questions about this and this and this. And I was like, wow. And it lets me know when people really get into a podcast, they start asking questions about one thing or the other, but that lets me know that they resonate with the podcast. So today we're going to talk about your business
Starting point is 00:03:34 because we know that you and Apostle Ford got your own business. Now, you guys got your hands in a lot of different things that you do other than your ministry. You know, that's number one. But we know that you are blessed to do so many other things that the word has for you. I think I'm going to ask you to tell us a little bit about yourself, first of all. Well, me personally, first and foremost, I am grateful for the opportunity to talk more about what it is that the Lord gave us.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Because everything that we do is centered around him and his will and his vision for us. And that's a part of how the business itself came along. the Lord reminded us of our mothers, and for those that don't know, he and I both grew up with single parents, so we weren't in a two-parent household. I grew up with my mother, he grew up with his mother. And the main things we remember about our mothers and our grandmothers are the foundational things that they taught us about being wise with our money and knowing where to shop and always dressing, not for the place that you are, but the place that you're going.
Starting point is 00:04:56 So in the midst of that and us praying and talking to God, saying, okay, God, I know you're giving us something, but help us to further understand whether it is that you're giving. And he reminds us of our mothers and our grandmothers and the things that they taught us. So he instructed us, and he gave us, doing them his perception. That's the name that the Lord gave us for the business. of our faith-based street that he gave us. And the emphasis behind Dunham's perception is really the perception of how the Lord views us.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Answer two questions in one. And I didn't even ask the question, and that's so amazing. That is so amazing because I'm looking at a question that was about to ask you, showing how God operates, you know. And I was supposed to ask you another question, and God, let you just answer that question so beautifully. Oh, my Lord.
Starting point is 00:05:58 That was so amazing. I want to talk a little bit about, and I know this is a business podcast, but I want to talk a little bit about the ministry, too, because I know that Apostle was on here, Apostle for your husband. And he was on the show, like I said, a little bit over a month ago, and he brought forth such beautiful word, and he prayed, and, oh, God, it was just such a great show. And it was just wonderful. You know, I want to talk a little bit about your ministry, too, first, and then I'm going to go into the business. I promise. I want to talk about the ministry, because you all also, and I think I brought this up with Apostle, you guys, you know, do street ministries as well. well, and you guys, I was noticing on your different, like your shirts, I see how you have
Starting point is 00:06:52 Bible verses and you have different things. You have brought all of that to your ministry. And as you were just speaking about how you grew up, you know, in the homes, how you grew up, and you had moms that, you know, love the Lord or whatever. And I just want to know a little bit more about your ministry as well because I Apostle brought forth so much but you are the prophets and I just well I just love what you guys got going on. Can you tell me
Starting point is 00:07:24 a little bit more about your ministry as well if you don't mind? Amen. Well the ministry itself as y'all all may know by now as soldiers for Christ and what it is is that we're what's called a street ministry. We are not within side of the four walls. Now God wants us to go into a building, go inside of a tent,
Starting point is 00:07:44 then sure it's whatever his will is. But majority of the time, when we're ministering to people, we're literally out in the hedges and highways. We can be in a park. We can be in the streets. We can be in a grocery store. Just whatever it is that God has chosen for us to be, that's literally, we're in the streets
Starting point is 00:08:01 and we're ministering to different people. And many times, most people are talking about surprise because what they already have perceived in their mind to be what a pastor should look like or what a woman of God should look like. They're not expecting that to be the case when we're in the midst. And it'll come from just a slight conversation. We might be in line.
Starting point is 00:08:22 We might be on the aisle. We might just be walking past and God will just start having his way. Wow. That's amazing. And I was looking at the design of your logo, I think it's the logo of your church, your international church. I was looking at the design of it. Did you design it or did the apostle sign or did you both design that together? You're speaking of our ministry seal.
Starting point is 00:08:52 No, that's our. Yes. We actually had another woman that God actually designed it for us. That's one of her gifts that God gave and it's her business. And she actually designs ministry seals. if he does do some business logos but God dropped in the Apostle Spirit
Starting point is 00:09:15 and had him reach out to her and we've known her for quite some time and he said have her do the seal because that's what he anointed her to do right it's beautiful
Starting point is 00:09:27 even all the way down to the seals and the logos it still reverts back to God and ministry right very beautiful I mean it's very eye
Starting point is 00:09:37 catching you see it And I'm like, whoa, it's like all the colors, everything is in there, you know, set it right. And, oh, it's just really beautiful. Now, I guess I can go into talking a little bit about the business, but I just want to talk a little bit about let people know, you know who you are. You know, you are the wife, the wonderful wife, prophetess of apostle, prophet A, B. Ford, and you're the wife. So I just wanted people to know that, just in case anybody was like, well, who's on today? So you guys heard her husband he was on last month. And you guys are the questions that I got, man, he's got to come on for part two.
Starting point is 00:10:23 He just got to. But I want to talk a little bit about your business now. Now, how long have you been in business, you know, with the perception, the perception, Dynumus perception Yes Duna's perception was founded in 2021 And this is right after
Starting point is 00:10:45 All of the COVID that went on in 2020 And because there was so much I can't say loss Because these women were saved And God just simply called them home And it included Apostles' grandmother Esther Swann
Starting point is 00:11:02 It included his mother Ethel Earl Ford and also included his auntie also one of my favorites Laura and I simply see that way for a reason because I literally just called her auntie
Starting point is 00:11:22 Laura because she had one of the sweetest spirits but all of these women were in the Lord and they were humble and they were just constant reminders of why we do what we do and who we do it for. And so after all of that transition that took place in 2020 of God calling them home,
Starting point is 00:11:49 when the top of 20 and 21 came and God started to deal with us, that's what he gave us during his perception because we were like, okay, we remember conversations that we've had with either of them. and one of the main things that I used to love about my mother-in-law and her mom is the fact that the way did they dress for the Lord because one day I was having a conversation with her and I was joking with her and I was like, let me see the outfit that you have
Starting point is 00:12:19 because I know you went in there and got dressed for Jesus. So when she came out, I took pictures of her and I mean she was dressed to the knives from her hat all the way down to her shoes. to her matching bag and that's the way that I always remember them when it came time for them to go to church, them to go to fellowship
Starting point is 00:12:38 things that they were doing for God. They were always dressed in the most brightly colored and the desires and the colors and the coordination but they were dressed because they were like I'm going to representation of the Lord that I
Starting point is 00:12:54 represent and I'm going to dress my best and that's what it was about. So that was part of the emphasis behind Dumas perception because we didn't initially think that we were going to do clothing or we were going to do retail Dolores said, no, this is what I want y'all to do. And it has to do with the fact of how he sees us, how we're supposed to adorn ourselves that we look more like him,
Starting point is 00:13:22 not like the world. And a lot of people have a misconception that just because you're saved and you're in the kingdom, that fashion is not supposed to be fashion. And it's not supposed to be bright and colorful. And the Lord that we serve is amazing. And everything he does is bright and colorful. And it shows his joy, his peace, his love that he has towards us.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So that is the basis behind why we got into clothing in retail. And it's to express the fact that, you know, even though that we're believers, we walk around wearing our face boldly and authentically through streetwear and that it's supposed to speak to others the life that we live and why we live their life confidently and with purpose. You know where I shop? I shop right online. right from the comfort of my own home at Dunaos Perception.
Starting point is 00:14:32 For the latest in fashion, clothing, shoes, bags, accessories, and so much more. Shop www.dunumousperception.com. Elevate your vision. Tell my sense you. Yeah, well, sad. And I was thinking about Apostle's mother. She, I think her favorite color was yellow, if I'm not mistaken. Yellow is her favorite color
Starting point is 00:15:27 And yellow is a beautiful color I don't think I ever loved yellow as much Until I found out that that was her favorite color And I was like, you know what? Yellow is not too bad But like you said you got Yeah She actually had too
Starting point is 00:15:43 She used to love like the canary color yellow And she loved royal blue Wow Those were her two colors Yes Oh, she likes A warrior blue as well. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Mm-hmm. It's amazing how that. Her colors were that. My mothers were royal purple and red. And if you notice that the colors in the ministry are literally royal blue, royal purple, and red. My colors are warrior blue and purple. So at least I'll fall in line with it. with the colors.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Anyway, but that's so amazing to know that, you know, how you all came about. I'm trying to keep from saying you guys. This one of my, wow, and you guys,
Starting point is 00:16:36 up again, cut out those words, that would be good. But that's how you all came about with the different colors, because when you look at your different online presence with dynamist perception,
Starting point is 00:16:49 it is a very, very colorful. Now that you, explained it. Boy, my eyes is like my eyes open to all colors all of a sudden. My eyes is open now. Like, oh, wow, that's why
Starting point is 00:17:02 they got all the different colors now. And it was a background behind it, which is always good to have a background behind it. And so do you have, now, I want to ask this question, do you have a particular item on, in
Starting point is 00:17:18 your store that sells the most? Or do you have a favorite yourself profitive. Do you have a favorite yourself or do you just love them all? Well, my favorites are always the shirts. And the reason why is because
Starting point is 00:17:34 I'm very expressive and they're always a conversation starter. Especially depending on what the shirt itself says. And then if the shirt has something on the front and the back, people will take the time
Starting point is 00:17:50 to look and be like, oh, wait a minute, there's something else. on the back as well because you'll have a bold point in the front and then the rest of it is like ah on the backside because like we have a shirt um that literally says obey god but if people look there's actually three different shirts and on the back it says even if they don't get it oh wow I don't know I didn't have something on the back what I'm saying people to do whatever it is that the Lord told you to do because everybody has a different color and everybody has their own purpose they've given them and everybody's not meant to understand what that purpose is and on the three different shirt we actually have um it's a black female with red hair and then i have another one where there is a black guy and he has like blue um he has like blue in his in his hair and like the design has blue in and then i have another one of she could be a mixed color type female and she has blonde hair and she has blonde hair and she has blue and with red streets and it's like that for a reason because the way that people are we were
Starting point is 00:18:59 designed to be different and people always assume that you're supposed to look this is that carbon copy of a thing but god made us different and he made us expressive he just told us to be modest he didn't say we had to be plain or it had to be boring because he's colorful and so are we so i'm more of uh i like to wear bright colors and i'm A lot of people don't understand, too. It's an automatic mood changer. The colors that you wear, the brighter the color, the brighter the mood. And it is because it catches your eyes.
Starting point is 00:19:33 It changes your mood. So a lot of people that like to wear drab colors or black or whatever, you can tell the difference between their mood and somebody who wears bright colors all the time. And the way a person looks and the way their person feels dictates their whole day. And I'm like, okay, the Lord gave me joy. I'm not trying to give my joy to anybody. So I particularly love to wear a bright color because it is a blue brightener. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:03 And you said something earlier in the beginning of the podcast, how, you know, a lot of people, and a lot of people think this way that, you know, if you're serving the Lord that you're supposed to be boring, whether he's boring old clothes and just look dry and walk around, head hanging down but you know dressing modest is number one but also like you said with the beautiful colors that that makes it to you express it so so very wonderful i really like the way you express that because a lot of people think it's supposed to be boring you know that you're walking around boring with boring clothes boring colors but boring style i should call it but
Starting point is 00:20:46 i like the way you express that i really do I like the way you expressed that in the beginning. Go ahead. You're about to say something. Yeah, I was about to say, and one of the main thing is about the fact of it being streetwear is because it says that the word tells us about, you know, going out into the hedges and highways and compelling souls to come in. Another reason I love the fact of the streetwear is because it's like one of the most expressive styles of clothing. also we tend to come across like elderly people or smaller children and the thing about children in their innocence is that they're able to be able to tell whether or not they're dealing
Starting point is 00:21:32 with a good spirit or a bad spirit and I tend to be around children that I always want to come up and say hi you know children like to touch and like to feel and say hi because they're just naturally friendly so even with that especially if you're in ministry, you're dealing with a lot of different people during the day. You don't have to worry about per se, people would say, like, getting their clothes, per se, man, stuff you wouldn't have to tell because they're street wear. So you're not afraid for people to come up and be like, especially little kids, because little kids like to touch and say, hi, how are you?
Starting point is 00:22:10 And hello. So I like it also because it's comfortable. You just never know where you might be. and who you might be around, and it's surprising to people, the messages that they see on the clothing, as well as the hat. I like the hat. I'm not per se a hat wearer, but Apostle likes the hat. And all of them have a different meaning behind them. None of the designs that are created on any of the gear is just random. It was purpose given, and there's always purpose behind the message that's written on it. it's to create thought provoking
Starting point is 00:22:52 ideas and people make the one to go research a thing or just even just a conversation starter because like one of the search that God gave was we have a couple of shirts that say drip but they say
Starting point is 00:23:07 drip in different ways and one of them literally says drip with purpose people are always talking about adornment and that's literally what your clothing is it's an adornment It's the way in which you present yourself. And the drip that we're trying to present is what we look like in Christ.
Starting point is 00:23:27 So the shirt, Linden says drip with purpose and it has like multi-tie dye on the front. But the schematics behind it is that if you notice, the colors are camouflage colors. Yeah. And, you know, we're called the battle. So they're they're decorated with camouflage colors in the mindset of being prepared for whatever battle you might have to take on whether it's natural or spiritual. But that's a little different thought. But that's what the Lord gave was when he gave me that particular shirt that says drip with purpose. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:08 So like say if for instance, I want to, I don't know if you got if you all do this like if say. If I wanted to order a sweater or a shirt and I have, like, the name of the podcast or something on there, do you do that? Is that something you offer or is that not something that you offer? If you want to have the name on the podcast. Well, it's not something that we offer. Now, you and I want to get together, most definitely we can do something for the podcast. But as far as a service right now, no, that's not something that we at the conceptions offer at the time.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Okay, yeah, that's what I was wondering. Because some people ask me, will they put on the shirt, like, put my name on there, the name of my school or all of that? I said, I don't think so, but I can ask anyway. And I thought I asked, you know, using the podcast, I went to ask in that order. And do you guys have a lot of sales that you go that you do? Do you have like, do you offer sales, you know, like so much off or percentage of all for a how do you go about that?
Starting point is 00:25:25 Actually, we do. People can either check our website www.dunisperception.com or they can take either our social media, whether it's on Instagram or Facebook. We might have pop-up sales. we might have special releases that we had a new inventory. It may be just a special promotion going on or a celebration and we'll pop up with one. So it's just, you know, keeping your eyes peeled to see when we might pop up with a sale because it could be at any given time.
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Starting point is 00:27:07 I have a very popular commercial going on. Your commercial is the first one in this podcast that people hear it, listen to. They hear it in it. I never forget, WWW. That's the Lewis Productions. And that's the first commercial, you know, in this podcast that people are going to hear in this podcast. So I just want y'all to know that I really have a great belief in what you're doing. and, you know, it's just so good to have a conversation with you.
Starting point is 00:27:40 We're not over yet, but I'm saying it's so good to sit here and speak with you, you know, to find out more, you know, because I'm learning more, you know, things I didn't know about the company itself, knowing that, you know, it's biblical based on the Bible and the principles and the morals and the modesty of the Bible and of those who have gone on. want to be with the Lord. Some things I knew, but a lot of things I didn't know that you brought forth, is bringing forth today.
Starting point is 00:28:14 It's just absolutely amazing. Now that just makes me want to go and put it in the order for real. Now that I really know, you know, like, you know, everything you just said. Oh, my goodness. So I think my question, my next question was the, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, you go ahead. Well, speaking of, since you were talking about promotions, and we're grateful for the collaboration with your show, we have, when people come to the site and they actually sign up, they get 15% off that they can use right then on their first purchase. So it's not that they can't get any deals or they can't get any sales. It's literally set up for them to initially start off, saving money.
Starting point is 00:28:59 so they went to the website right now and signed up they could get 15% off their purchase today right oh that's a good thing so I think I want to mention that again a little bit later in the podcast so they'll know that hey listen up you just heard it you heard it from properties herself so so I noticed in a lot of the of the photos that Apostle, he wears the different shirts. And I noticed he wearing the different shirts of from the business. And I noticed that, I noticed that a lot when he had on his different shirts and different things that he's wearing. You know what I noticed?
Starting point is 00:29:46 I noticed on one of the pictures, our video, he had on this blue, like very blue, it was like a food. is that something from the company or is that from somewhere else? But I thought that suit was just so amazing. It was blue, the color that's my favorite color. It was a blue suit. He was preaching in it. He had on blue, and you might remember this, he had on blue, and I don't know, they just stood it out. I was wondering, was that one of your items in your company?
Starting point is 00:30:23 I would actually have to go back and see, depending on whether or not it was actual suit wear because we've done different types of clothing at different times and then God changed it up and said, okay, now I want you to do it in this brand the way. But this is something else that people also don't know. Apostle is also a music artist. He is Duna's power. He's also one of our brand ambassadors. So the only brand ambassador for Dune's perception is Duna's Power. Yeah. So you would see him in the hat and in the shirts and in the hoodies because he is a brand ambassador for Dunamis perception.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Right. And I do see him a lot in a different, you know, style. Even in the way that he had his hair, like, cut a certain way, I noticed that and I've never seen anyone with their hair so neat. I've seen people with their hair cut, but not in such a neat fashion as Apostle has, you know, has the haircut, and then with the different garment outfits that he wear. I mean, it's just, just absolutely amazing, a beautiful thing to see and to watch that the modesty that your company brings, you know, to the public, to the, to the, I don't know, if I want to say to the church world, but maybe, yeah, to the church world.
Starting point is 00:31:54 To the master. Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's just amazing to see that, you know, and it's just wonderful. It's wonderful. It's cool that you said that because, you know, honestly, that's a part of our vision. Part of our vision is actually to, you know, to redefine the culture of fashion by merging faith and style into a global movement. And the point is to inspire people to walk in their,
Starting point is 00:32:21 God-given power and express their purpose unapologelics. I got tons of to not be afraid to say, okay, I believe in God and I believe in him boldly. You're not going to stop me speaking about Jesus. And that's the whole vision that we have that we're pushing at Dundan's perception because that's what it's about. There should be no reason why I can't say this is who I believe in, this is who I have faith in, this is what I stand on and be ashamed
Starting point is 00:32:55 about it. We are unapologetically unashamed about who we believe in and that's our vision is so that people were walking their God-given power and express their purpose. Right. And look good doing it.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And look good. And absolutely look good doing it. Because again, people think you've got to be boring, you've got to look Like years ago, I think people really thought that you need to, like, I keep bringing this up, I know. But even I thought that at one point you got to be boring, you got to look boring. But no, no. But I just love your fashion.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I love that. So I had a question. Something told me to write this down. Oh, my God. And I did not. But I think I asked earlier, what do you see the company going? I think I was about to ask that. What do you see the company going?
Starting point is 00:33:57 How far would you like to take this? As far as the Lord wants it to go, the main purpose behind it is to get his vision and his message out. And it's amazing that you asked about that because literally we actually have a shirt that literally says, faith is my fashion. Wow. And that's really what Duna's Succession is all about your faith being your fashion. And if people don't understand how
Starting point is 00:34:27 empowering that is when they begin to stand on the faith that is in Jesus Christ, their boldness comes out. Their confidence comes out. Understanding who they are in him changes how they see life in itself. And they stop having apprehensions about certain things and they stop
Starting point is 00:34:47 bick and wavering about certain things and they're not sitting around like maybe I should, maybe they become more concrete in what they believe and how they should stand and that's what it's about because as long as you don't know who you are and who you are, you won't know where you stand and when you don't know that the enemy
Starting point is 00:35:05 does nothing but use that against you to keep putting you in the place of being shy, being ashamed, being afraid to say okay, I'm grateful for how God made me, and this is how he made me, and he made me in the image that he wanted me to look like. So I'm thankful for how it is that he made me look, because I don't know like nobody else. I'm an individual that he carved out himself, and I look just the way he wants
Starting point is 00:35:28 me to. Right. And when you, like, perfectly said, when you go out, like, and minister to, like, the different people on the streets and wherever you take your ministry. And I remember years ago, So, Prophet David Terrell used to, like, sell his tapes, like, in the back of the tent service, you sell his tapes. And a lot of times we just give out tapes or whatever. I was wondering, when you go out on the street, do you, like, because you guys got a ministry, street ministry, do you, like, give out different, like, of your items, you're, like, your shirt here. You know, she was a shirt for you. God lets you or here's the, do you guys do that sometimes? Well, actually, um, depends on how the Lord has us to do it.
Starting point is 00:36:23 They, at different times, he's had us do different things. Like at a point, um, the first book that I, that he had me to write, which was Stor's for Christ's, Manual, the initial purpose of that book was to empower people, um, with the message that he wanted them to have. Um, and we published the book. order so many copies of it and God has to pass those out along with tracks
Starting point is 00:36:49 and most old school people and some new ones might understand what a track is and it's basically a small little pamphlet telling people more about a certain topic in the word like salvation or deliverance or things like that and it's to draw their
Starting point is 00:37:05 attention more to the word of God at any given time depending on what the Lord may say we may have giveaways, we may give away handbags we may give away peas, we may give away hood. It just depends on what the Lord gives us for that season because
Starting point is 00:37:23 the main purpose is about getting the message out and for the most part of doing this perception our goal is to help you know, cause the Word of God to go further. So part of our proceeds or what we donate to the ministry is
Starting point is 00:37:41 for the purpose of causing the Word of God to go further. Right. So it's not just about, you know, the clothing and the brand itself, but it's about getting God's word out there. So a portion of the proceeds from the business actually goes towards pushing the ministry and getting the word out further because he is called to the nation. So we're trying to get the message that God gave him to the nation.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Right. Through the clothing. Wow. Now, speaking of books, so another can of diamonds. and I'm not going to say it weren't. But speaking of books, you wrote a book some years back now. I don't know exactly which year it was. Was it 17 or 16?
Starting point is 00:38:26 You wrote a book. Right. It was actually 2015, and God gave me the book called Soldiers for Christ a Soldier's Manual. And it is kind of like a cliff note version of, important things in the Bible is not to take away from the Bible it's not to keep people where they only read that and not the Bible
Starting point is 00:38:51 the purpose of it is to pull out key points to remind people whether they're new converts or people that have been in the minstrel in a church for a long period of time of the main tactics that the enemy comes with and their main purpose for being in the kingdom
Starting point is 00:39:07 what their life is supposed to be about what is the purpose of their life you know understanding that they're called the suffer that God gave them power on the inside of them, that God gave them the ability to look like him and then turn around and throw that to another person that they may look like God. It's key points to remind them of the key things in the Bible about what God says about his people and to always be on guard for the tactics of the enemy.
Starting point is 00:39:38 It was a great book because I remember interviewing you for my radio show about your book. I'll never forget it. I mean, I still got that on heart drive, on my heart drive. But do you think you'll be writing any more books in, like, in the future? I know it's got to be up to God, but I'm just saying. Actually, I have, I actually have a couple of publications that I will be releasing, Lord, I will be released in this coming year in 2026.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I will also have a new book that will be coming out this year in 2026 so um and they were more than like we all be on amazon okay so that's three books three books there boy let me know please let me know because like i said i enjoyed the last one you know and he was on my on my show back then and to come think about it it was just it was good it was fun because laura see up kind of set everything up and um he used to always just get all of my stuff together, things I have to do myself now. She would get everything together, so by the time
Starting point is 00:40:48 I spoke with people, she already had everything together. All I had to do was just, you know, just talk to the person or interview the person. But I remember her getting that together for me and you know, she's telling me about the book and she told me everything what it was
Starting point is 00:41:04 about. So I already knew what to expect. Oh my God, I missed that because I have to now go through there and they started figure these things out or go through there and just, you know, read myself, given my schedule crazy busy as it is, I still have to do it because it's a part of everything, but I missed that about her. And I think I'm going to pull that up because it's going to just remind me of, you know, what she did, her work. But yeah, that was a really, really good book. I look
Starting point is 00:41:37 forward to your new books. Oh, my goodness. I'm glad. And if you have your highlight already because this one will be it will be a little thicker than the last one. Okay, look. It would it be on the Audible books where they like, oh, you just got to just
Starting point is 00:41:57 go through there and like read it? No, when I release it and put it on Amazon I will make sure that it is also Audible. Okay. Okay. That works because, I think what I was trying to say is like audible, but like, would it be like audio book? Would it be like audiobook, too, where you can hear it read or is that something that you might not really offer? It kind of just depends on the platform in itself because you have some actual devices or apps that when you, you know, you get the books, that it does, it has it set to where it can read it for you. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:45 So it just times when, when, when, when, when we release it because a lot of people have the devices because of when they just simply download it, the device itself has the options on the inside where it will auto, we'll read it until you audibly. Oh, okay. That would be wonderful. I like that. I'm sorry. This cat's on flop down on my notes.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I got to pull my notes from under him. He's heavy, Brexton. He went there and flopped on my notes. The other day, he sneezed right at the end of my podcast. I was going to take it out, but I would stay it in there. He just right at the end, if I got through that, I don't want people to think, that's me sneezing. It wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:43:29 It was Brexton. Now he's getting close to me again. I don't want to sneeze this time. He said he came to work, too. So anyway, Providus, is there anything else that you will like to talk about because, or did I mention everything? I hope I covered quite a bit. I don't know if I did. I do have some other interviews today, but they have kind of been pushed back just slightly.
Starting point is 00:43:59 But did you have anything else that you want to talk about about your business? The only other thing that I have is that actually when you go to our website, we actually have a blog that is on the website and is to have inspiration. So we're actually incorporating the word itself onto the website. So not only is it on the clothes, but you're actually getting nuggets added to your week when you go in and check in on the blog. So I would just say make sure to check that out when you go to the website and you're looking around. Don't forget to check out the blog and see what the current word for the week may be.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Oh, yeah, word for the week. That's nice. And so, and then you do have a blog at your website. Oh, I forgot because I mentioned about your website. You also, I don't know if this is something that you offered, but do you bill websites or is that something you don't really offer? At the moment, no, that's not something I really offer at the time. And yes, we actually did build our website. I thank God for our own in-house IT, which is a tremendous blessing.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I thank God for that God used our son to make that happen. So I got extra hands on deck, which is always a blessing. And he's a believer, so we got a true. proportion of hands on deck to do what we need to do to get done for doom misperception. But as far as like serious consultation on that, it just depends on the person. I would just say just reach out. We have a contact page as well. Any questions that they might want to know or any information they want to request that can simply just shoot us a message on our contact page and
Starting point is 00:45:57 we can just reach back out and we can just take it on a case-by-case basis. Hey there, I'm Regina Sword. I always leave my email in my podcast, but now it's super easy to leave me a message through fan mail. Just press the button and just type away. That easy, guys. So this message is included in every last line of my podcast. Click fan mail. send me a message today of your favorite podcast or if you'd just like to send an encouraging word
Starting point is 00:46:39 or feedback. I am waiting. Hit that fan mail and I'll get your message. Thanks a bunch guys. And, you know, that's great. You know, your kids are really smart. And I was watching this video where Apostle was sitting on this bed, and then he turned into this something, I guess. It was like a cartoon kind of. Yeah. He's a story.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yeah. I mean, he was something. Yeah, that's one of his videos for, um, Dutemus Power. The song is called For My Crown. And this is people, listen to the lyrics in the beginning. He's literally talking about,
Starting point is 00:47:42 you hear the word when he says, Mama taught me to pray. He's talking about his grandmother and his mother. That's what those words came from. Wow. Yeah, I noticed that video is, man, that video is deep. And then it's like he's being fought in the video.
Starting point is 00:48:00 But in the end, in the end, he comes out. victorious, and from my understanding, is that one of the ones that your son helped produce, or... It is. Yeah, he did a great job.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Oh, my God, just to make that come to light, because a apostle would sit there in a bed, and by the time he fell backward, then he had already turned into that warrior. And then it just changes over throughout. That was a great video.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Yes, we had a lot fun with that one. We actually did. And the storyline itself, if you look inside of the video in the background as you starts to near the end, you will see a grandmother sitting in a rock and
Starting point is 00:48:46 she's clapping her hand and behind her is Psalm 91. And we did that in remembrance of Hester Sworn. That's what it's for. I'm going to go back and I'm going to watch that again because when I first watched it, I had to watch it like four or five times because it's like so animated.
Starting point is 00:49:10 It's so, man, you're starting to do a great job. It's such a great video that I'm like, wow, this video is amazing. And it just, it goes from the real person and then it turns into this like cartoon, characters, like biblical. I mean, it's amazing. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if something like that wouldn't get some kind of a word because it was, he created it in such a beautiful way. He really did. Such talent.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Oh, my goodness. And your daughter, too. Got a great talent as well. He put together some stuff for me in the past, and I still use it. The only thing is I couldn't use one of them, but she put some stuff together for me, and it just gave me an idea, and I was like, okay, all I can say is, Well, Apple don't fall apart from the tree. We thank God that.
Starting point is 00:50:05 And that's what it's about a lot of, you know, guys, people have gifts and talents and different things that, you know, he's put on the inside of them. And it's about them seeing the vision that he put on the inside of them. And a lot of that vision starts with them understanding who it is that he created them to be. And a lot of times we start with our parents before we start what I inward one. And the dune's perception, the premise behind it is just that to help with both the inward and the outward. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:37 So you begin to having your mindset that seed that, okay, positive thoughts and, you know, reassuring thoughts and reassuring affirmations and what we call, I call them spiritual blessings because they're really spiritual seeds. and when that begins to take root and take hold and starts to grow, then people go from the outside of them to what's on the inside of them. And both began to change the inside and the outside. So it's more about people seeing our God made them to be and getting to that point where they're confident and saying, okay, this is how he made me, this is how he told me to be, this is how he wants me to express the person that he created me to be.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And that's when people start to dive into really the talents that they were given and start to utilize those more for the kingdom. And God shows them how to cause that thing to go from the seed to a tree and just grow. Oh, my goodness. We've almost done it in an hour. We've almost done 60 minutes. This is cool. This is so cool.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And I must say, I really enjoyed having you on today because I think we've been planning this for a minute. but, you know, you've got to go according to what the Lori wants, but it's been such a pleasure to sit here and have a conversation with you about the misperception because I, you know, I've learned a lot today. I mean, certain things I knew, but I'll say on a scale of 1 to 10, maybe I knew maybe 4%. And today you just kind of added the other 6% in there Because a lot of things I didn't know, and now my eyes open more clearly to what the company is all about, reminding me now when I see it, all of the bright colors, and just the story behind the company means a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:52:37 So I truly thank you for being on the podcast today. I really do. I hope you come back. Most definitely, I'm grateful, especially with the New Year. you're coming up and the different things that God has us doing, especially with the different releases of publications and books that he's doing.
Starting point is 00:53:00 And another thing I want to point out is this. What a lot of people do not understand is anything that we own or possess, we have to be mindful of who created it and why they created because it can cause
Starting point is 00:53:14 us to walk in things that are not pleasing to God. But that may be on another podcast through Apostle because that's a whole other different spiritual teaching. But that's the thing, you know, for kingdom people, kingdom people should be wearing kingdom things. And that, that says a lot because it says that in the word, how can two walk together except they be agreed. Well, if I know I'm a believer, then I'm trying to wear things that I know that are created by other believers because we have the same belief and we believe in
Starting point is 00:53:45 the same thing. And I'm not doing anything to try to cause you to walk an era. any type of way that's not pleasing to God. Everything that we do is for his purpose and for his will and for the betterment of his people and his kingdom. So, amen. Wow. Amen. It's been a wonderful
Starting point is 00:54:04 Let me look. It's been a wonderful near 60 minutes here. It's been a wonderful conversation here and so much has been covered everyone. So can you go ahead and give them your edge First again, I'm going to put it in the write-up, but if you want to go ahead and give them a place that they can contact the business, that would be wonderful.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yes. Our website is www.dunisperception.com. If you just want to just reach out to us or address anything or just contact us, our direct email is www. Oh, I'm sorry. Our direct email is dunisperception at gmail.com. There you go. So you heard it from prophetess, Roberta Ford, she's my guest here today, and boy, what a guess. I mean, it was like we just went through this like butter, like water on the duck's back.
Starting point is 00:55:04 I look very little bit at the notes I had. And you look at all of my notes, and as we all know, my cat Brexton is laid down on the other notes that I was going to ask. But you pretty much, the beautiful thing about this, you covered. questions, and that's happened several times before on other podcasts, I like what a person can cover what I'm about to ask, and you did that. You covered the questions that I have down here, like, oh, my God, I didn't have to even go there. So thank you so much for being on the podcast today.
Starting point is 00:55:41 It should be out posted tonight, I believe it would be out tonight. So if you share it, that would be wonderful. Most definitely. And I'm so grateful, you know, this is just a display of the gift that the Lord gave you and you're fluent in what you do and how you do it. So I try to be prepared for what it is that you do and just compliment along the way. So I thank you so very much for the interview and the opportunity. You're so welcome, so welcome.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And please give my love to the Apostle, let him know that. you know, I'm pouring with them, praying for him, continuing to support you all. And I believe in your ministry, and I thank God for your ministry because, you know, when someone is going forward like you all are doing with the ministry, it's good to support that because, you know, God bless you when you do that when you support his people.
Starting point is 00:56:37 So I can truly say he has blessed. He has blessed me, he's blessed me by supporting you all and supporting some others. I just want to even know that. I said it before, I believe, but he's blessed me. Sometimes I'd be like, oh, should they go ahead and make that little extra, and then I go ahead and do it, and then turn around, and God already has opened a door.
Starting point is 00:57:01 So I just want y'all know, I appreciate what you're doing. In your business, in your ministry, I bid you God's feet. Thank you so much. Thank you, and thank you so much, and thank you for the platform as well. You're very welcome. So you pray for me as I pray for you, and we're going to say, I like to say later. I'm saying goodbye, but I think we're going to just say later. You're going to say something else?
Starting point is 00:57:30 Later, Jane. Okay, later, and God bless you. So there you have it. It's all we're all done. I'm going to put everything in the write-up, as I said, and the podcast would be out in a few hours. It might be before that, but it will be out shortly. Thanks again. Later.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Okay, that concludes another great broadcast. Thank you so much for joining me for Regina Swaring Audio Series. If you'd like to be a part of this series, please send me an email at Swarine, Regina, at gmail.com. I want to thank all of my wonderful friends, fans, and guests for being a part of this show. Most of all, I'd like to thank the Lord. Until the next time, take care of yourself, and be safe. Thank you.

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