Regina Swarn Audio Series Presents - Holiday Pets, Real Talk On Responsibility

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

Fan MailA bow on a box makes for a heart-melting reveal, but what happens after the wrapping paper is gone? We sit down with longtime adoption coordinator Jerri Clay Hays to unpack the real work of turning a holiday surprise into a lifelong bond. From matching a pet’s age and temperament to your household rhythm to planning around vacation chaos, this conversation offers the practical playbook every adopter needs before they say yes.We walk through family readiness, especially with young kids and tiny animals, and why “teenager” kittens can be a safer, happier match for busy homes. Jerri pulls back the curtain on shelter realities—why rescues won’t “run out” at Christmas, how returns strain limited space, and how thoughtful matching dramatically reduces heartbreak. We also champion seniors, sharing stories of adopters who choose older cats for their calm, grateful companionship, plus discounts and sponsorships that make these placements possible.Care tips come rapid-fire and field-tested. Learn when to adopt around holiday travel, how to set up a quiet room during parties, and why most cats would rather stay home than “visit” for festivities. Get actionable advice on spay and neuter timing, low-cost clinics, interactive toys that beat boredom, using treats for positive reinforcement, and solving everyday hurdles like litter box pain points for arthritic seniors or the one cat who raids everyone’s bowl. If you’re weighing a Christmas adoption, this guide helps you choose with compassion and clarity—and sets your new friend up for an easy, loving start.Enjoyed the conversation? Follow the show, share this episode with a friend who’s considering a pet, and leave a review with your top takeaway so we can answer your questions next time.Contact  Jerri  Clay Hays 678-817-9647Office Website https://www.rescuecats.orgMusic My free gift to the company Commrcoyÿ Show endSupport the showContact [e-mail]

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Now let's take you into an episode of Regina Swark Audio Series. Hello, hello. Merry Christmas, I guess. Welcome back to another episode of Regina Sworn Audio Series presents. It is my pleasure, and I really do mean this, It is my pleasure to introduce a woman who has done so much for the community and beyond. Rescue cats. I mean, I can go back as far as I don't know when.

She has helped me a great, great, great deal. And it helps so many people. Every when I go, they know Jerry. The nurse is no Jerry. Everybody knows Jerry. So it is my privilege, pleasure. I'm getting my words mixed up. pleasure to introduce Jerry Clay Haystree again. Jerry is the adoption coordinator for Rescue Cats

Incorporated located in Fayetteville, Georgia. Now that's what the home base is. But Jerry, when I tell you this lady is all over the place, I thought I was busy. I'm busy. But not like Jerry. No, no, no, no, no. So help me welcome the amazing, wonderful. lady herself. Cherry Clay Hayes. Good morning, Jerry. Good morning. Good morning.

Thank you so much for the invite. I want to start off by thanking Regina Sworn as well as IHeart Radio. They have been awesome to be able to work with a podcast and we're excited to be here with you guys today and right around the corner from Christmas. So we have some topics. I know that would be of interest to you. Especially if you're thinking about adopting or maybe just adopted, a pet for Christmas or thinking about that. Whether that be a dog, cat, kitten, puppy, or a gerbil or a bird.

It doesn't matter. Any type of pet for Christmas. So we'll get into that. We got so much to talk about with the adoptions. And, you know, it is Christmas time. And a lot of people, they kind of take it for granted. You know, you get a gift. And then the gift is a gift.

And the next thing you know, it's just something that you just sit on the shelf. And that's one of the topics we're going to talk about today. And who better, as I told you, who better to talk about this than Jerry? Jerry knows, I mean, she's got that knowledge. And I don't say that lightly, she's got knowledge. And Jerry, I'm so thankful for you. Well, thank you again. You give such nice accolades.

But that's something we do want to share is talking about the pets. as Christmas gifts or that surprise gift for Christmas as one of the little kittens and puppies, how cute they are. But I'd like to start off by saying that's a nice gesture for a present. But there are some things that you might want to consider and think about before you make that step. First of all, make sure that the entire family is on board with having a new pet. So many people think it's so cute to open up the box with a little puppy popping out with a red bow around his neck. That is cute and wonderful, but think about later on.

It is a huge responsibility. It's the responsibility for the whole family. A lot of times they'll say, oh, well, I know my child's going to help with the cleaning up and feeding and watering. And that's great. It should be a family responsibility. but these are some good tips to think about before you jump in there and get one. Now, we do Christmas presents as our kittens and cats. We do have those ready, but the family is all prepared for that.

And we do have some of the people picking up their little Christmas kittens on Christmas Eve. So we're excited to send those home. But the responsibility is it is, it is. is a lifetime responsibility. And it's not just like the new toy, as Regina mentioned. You know, sometimes the newness will wear off after a week and then all of a sudden the child looks at something else to play with, a new toy or new, you know, bicycle or four-wheeler or whatever.

And they forget about the little animal. Right. So that is something you want to think about that responsibility is going to fall back on the parents. And if they get tired of it, guess what? They will want to return the pet to the shelter or agency or adoption center, and now we have to make space for that return. Right.

So that is looking at the age for a child, some people talk about, oh, I want to get my two-year-old a new kitten. Well, think about that again. There's nothing wrong with having, you know, small child and pets. So that's perfectly fine. But I will say there are agencies, we will not name the names, that will not adopt to anyone with children under five years old. So rescue cats, we try to work with the adopter parents and interview them

and look at matching the cat or the puppy or whatever to the family. So if they have younger children, we look at more of a teenager-type kitten. and that seems to have worked out so well looking at, you know, about that seven or eight-month-old. There's still a kitten, but they're a little more hearty where, you know, the child picks up the kitty and maybe if they slip out of their hand or jumps down, it's not going to hurt the kitten at all. Or the same goes with the puppy, that the child is old enough and knowing that if they put it down, the kitten or the puppy's not going to get hurt. Right.

So those little tiny, tiny ones, you might want to look at the older children adopting those. We say they're not quite as breakable when they're a teenager. So it is a lifelong commitment. Something else that has come up several times is people want to get a pet and then they're ready to go on vacation. And that happens a lot. So you might want to consider getting the pet after you come back from vacation. Right. Unless you have a good, you know, reputable pet sitter or family member that's going to be there with the pet.

They want to interact and bond with the new family immediately. So that would be things to consider. Get your vacations over with and taken care of before you. you look at bringing a new family member in, a new fur baby, into the family. Some people think, oh, my gosh, I better get a kitten right now or get a puppy because they're going to run out. I promise you, none of the agencies or adoption centers

or the animal shelters are going to run out of pets. We certainly do have a huge number. that are waiting for adoptable parents to come get them. Yeah, they're pretty overwhelmed right now too, aren't they? They are. They are. I know that the shelter's here. They're not taken any more in.

They are overwhelmed with people dropping off puppies and, you know, older dogs where a lot of people I'm hearing, they're moving. And that's another topic. Right. They move to a location where they are not. not a pet-friendly location. So they have to give up their pet. And or either if they move in with their parents or grandparents and there might be

allergy situations and that's another reason people have to give up their, their dog or cat or whatever. Right. So, yes, the pounds and shelters, they are all full. Yeah, running over practically. Absolutely. Absolutely. So sad.

It certainly is. But we work, you know, diligently hard. I know I've been with rescue cats for 27 years now. And I think one of the main thrust that we really try is to match the family with the pet. Match the pet with the family. And sometimes they might come to the agency or come visit at the PetSmart. And they come from one particular kitty or cat, dog, whatever. And all of a sudden, that animal, peasant.

kicks them. So they might come from one and then another one they fall in love with. So making that match is so important for everybody involved. Right. You know, not just one or one end of the other, but having everyone to be involved and making that adoption actually be successful and not have that animal come back to us. I know. I hate when they do that. Oh, my God. I know.

You know. For the latest in fashion, clothing, shoes, bags, accessories, and so much more. Shop www.dunumusperception.com. Elevate your vision. Tell them I sent you. We do have returns, unfortunately, but by, you know, by respect of that, we always take back any cat that's ever been adopted. We had one not too long ago. I think the kitty was about eight years old and had to be returned because, see,

family, they were moving back to their another country actually from their home country and they could not take the cat. So, you know, things like that happen. And we always take the cat back and do a pretty good job of finding a wonderful home for that older senior pet. So those are a little harder to find.

Everybody wants that cute little fuzzy kitten but think about adoption, think about those mommy kitties or, you know, older dogs that have puppies that the mom dog needs a home. And certainly that would be a great thing to have. And I always make sure to say somewhere in the podcast, please spay and neuter your pets. That is the main thrust of the agency as well to get the information. out and help educate the public the importance of getting their animal pet altered or fixed. Right. You know, there's so many words to say that.

Spey is for the female and the neuter is for the male. And you will have such a better quality of life for your pet. So those are a couple of things to keep in mind. And one more time, can you tell them the ages? Because a lot of people are like, well, one lady right now, I'm begging her, like, to get her a dog fixed because the dog is in heat. She'd been having, like, five years, and she'd say, like, when do you think he's going to go in the heat? I was like, he's already in heat.

Yes, yes. And they do, most of the dogs and cats usually come, we call it, in season or in heat. And around that five, six months, sometimes it's longer. And a lot of people just don't understand how that cycle work. They don't. But it's crucial that you go ahead and get the animal fix before that time frame. And animals don't understand incest. And that's a hard topic to touch on.

But, yes, the brothers and the sisters will breed. And then the mother will with her son and daughters and the fathers. will all interbreed. So it's a hard topic to talk about, but it's something that a lot of people don't think about. They don't think that could ever occur. Or if that kitten or cat gets out one time, it only takes one time because a male cat and dog can smell

a female in heat up to two miles radius from where that cat is. So they know they will come to your door. so having your pets altered is the best thing and there's you know go to low-cost spay and neuter clinics yeah there's a lot um you know let this here i will always suggest lifeline and that's in college park and then jazzy paul incorporated is in the lovejoy hampton area they are low-cost and they do work through so many situations and people to help them out on getting their pets altered. So definitely check into those and you will have a much happier animal that testosterone

will be lowered and you, they'll be a home body. They'll be right there and so loving. They won't want to try to get out and go find a partner. So having those pets altered is just crucial for everybody's sake, I would think. Right. You know, Jerry, you said something about the senior cat just jumping back a little bit i'm so thankful for my senior cat um braxton he's been so he just followed me everywhere i go he uh you know it's funny we had a an adopter call us the other day and she was an elderly lady and she said i want to adopt the oldest cat that you have the one that's not the least likely adoptable the one that nobody wants. I want the cat.

Wow. And we, I believe, had a 10-year-old, maybe 11-year-old senior cat, and she is thrilled to have that baby. So it is, those good people out there that want to take a senior cat. And they have been actually more successful adoptions than, you know, some of the younger ones. I know we do out-of-state adoptions as well. And we sent one to, Florida, not too long ago. We do a lot of out-of-state with Florida, Alabama. We've done several North Carolina and South Carolina. And they have all been successful with our older adults. And I think senior, they start, you know, that 10-year-old Mark, the senior cats. Right. After seven, they have a breakdown of the different ages, anything under a year. They're still considered a kitten.

and then the different age breakdown. But we are always, and we give senior discounts. That means senior cats and maybe senior citizens as well. So we try to give discounts to help out both the families and getting the cat a home. And especially if we had, you know, a cat that's been with us a longer time. Right. We do offer some discounts and sponsorships. That's something that I'd love to touch on that we,

We have a lot of people that donate money specifically to sponsor a particular cat or kitten. Wow, that's amazing. That helps, yes, it helps defray the cost for the new adopter to be less for them to have to pay for the adoption fee. I didn't know that. A lot of people sponsor, we probably had $200 or $300 just this year of different people calling in and sending in sponsorship money for a particular cat. So that helps out. That's a win-win on everybody's situation for that. That's nice.

That's sweet. Oh, my gosh. So I just jump back a little bit because I want to talk about that. So you proceed because you got so much to talk about. Oh, absolutely. I can talk. We love hearing you talk, Gary. Well, we are just so excited.

I don't have the exact numbers of how many cats and kittens we've adopted this year. But usually it's, you know, $300 to $350. Ooh. And that's a good year. Of course, I think all of the agencies are a little bit lower this year, you know, with finances and, you know, people struggling with just, you know, getting their bills paid. Right. And that's something you want to think of, you know, adding a new animal to the family. Do I have enough money to take care of any vet bills that might come up and making sure that you have?

you know, enough funds for their food and, you know, anything additional that you need for the animal to make sure that, you know, you have enough money's reserved to take on a new fur family member. Right. And that's important to all. But yes. That is amazing, though. I just love what you do.

I've been saying it forever. I mean it. I love the things that you, you know, have you accomplished, and I've gotten, I think all but one of my cats. I think I got all but one of my cats from rescue cats. I've gotten from you. You're on the frequent flyer program. We do offer discounts.

If you ever come back to get another kitty, we always offered discounts. We had a lady that stopped by PetSmart just a couple weeks ago that said, do you remember me and of course that's kind of hard but i remember people by their cats and she said that she adopted like 18 years ago and she is looking for another kitty and it's it is makes you feel so good that you've done well either with the adoption with customer service with follow-ups where they come back to that agency right you know it's kind of like buying a car if you don't like how that dealership treated you, you're not going to go back. So that makes you feel, hey, we've done something right, and they like the service.

It is, we call it a service, I guess. They liked how they were treated, and, you know, they want to come back and find another kitty that would fit their family. So I think she'll be coming back after Christmas, and she said, I want to get all the Christmas over with because I just thought of another thing. is when you do have your family in your house for Christmas, kids, opening presents, you know, the dog barking, families coming in, all the food gatherings, it's probably the best idea to put your pets maybe in the back bedroom

just to close them away because all of that confusion does affect them. A lot of people think, oh, they can just be right in the middle of it. But they're scared. You don't want them to have such a bad experience. I know we always have stockings hung for our cats and dogs and always treat them with some goodies. But before all the family starts coming in and, you know, a lot of confusion in the house, it's just a better idea to just put them away, put them in the back room or, you know, the basement area, whatever. until all of that is gone and things are quiet

and then let them back out and enjoy their little Christmas. Right. So I just remember that. That was just something sparked in my head. They don't like loud noises. They really don't. They really don't. They like to be homebodies.

Another lady has said that she wanted to take her cat over to her daughter's house for Christmas. And I'm like, well, that's fine, but I'll be honest. they probably would rather just stay at home and not travel. But, you know, some kitties do just like wearing clothes. People buy little clothes and outfits for their dogs and their puppies and whatever. But most of them, I'm going to say most, I know somebody going to call me out on that, really don't like the clothing to be put on them. I have a friend that every single night at 9 o'clock she puts pajamas

on the dog every single night and he has his and he's she says he seems to like it he'll actually come in there and be ready to put pajamas on and she sent me pictures but you know so there are some that might like to dress up generalities cats don't really care for the the little dresses and cat outfits I think that's more for Or, you know, the humans. Other people, yeah. They think it's cute to take pictures or whatever. Oh, my God.

That's another thought about the dress up. Right. I always wondered about that. Yeah, and, you know, they just, they feel so confined. Now, they do actually have, they marketed these things called Thunder shirts where you can buy this kind of a tight t-shirt to make the dog or cat, either one, to feel very safe and secure, like during a thunderstorm or, you know, like a long car ride or whatever, it kind of secures them.

So they actually have that for the therapy and to help, you know, for the dog to feel more secure. So a lot of times if you put that little jacket on a cat, they'll just flop over and lay there on the ground and not move. So they feel so confined. there's videos you can find anything on the internet now with YouTube and all of your different type of videos of seeing where people put clothes on their pets I wondered about that I really did it's a big market I mean to get clothing and rain jackets for their dog yeah I wondered about it though for things they don't know

No, they don't even care. No, I don't think so. I think they like their own little clothes that they got on. Yeah, they're little fur coats. Yeah. Yeah. But, and certainly with the podcast, if, you know, information that people are needing or interested in or something we can touch on with some topics, I know in the near future I would really like to do a podcast of getting,

the information out about diseases, and one in particular is called FIP, and this is something that we're seeing more and more increased cases throughout the feline world, and we're seeing a lot more cases of parvo and things in the dog world, in the canine world. But that's something I would like, if that might be an interest to people, to discuss some of the diseases. FIP can come in two different variations of wet and dry, and it is a viral disease, and it is from the coronavirus. So it's interesting, a lot of information out there, a lot of the colleges, especially your vet research universities, are giving a lot more information. So we're seeing that, as well as feline leukemia,

and could touch based on some of those other diseases. So that might be on another podcast. I would really like to do, get all the research together for that. And talk about, you know, the symptoms and the diagnosis and how it can be treated. The new medications that are out there, which is just brand new of looking at the medications. And what I understand is it's about a three-month regimen. but, you know, that can be on another podcast, so that might be an upcoming. Speaking of another one, I got this down here, the people were saying, can we have more episodes?

So we're going to make that happen. That would be great. That would be great. I would love. And if there's, you know, topics or things that we can find and, you know, that people are really needing the information. Right. And certainly we have, with rescue cats, we have a large number of staff. and we work with several vets and vet techs.

So we have a wealth of knowledge behind, you know, information that we give out. It's not just top of your head. So we want to make sure that is research-based to give out the correct information. That's correct. And this, I mean, the Internet is just filled of so many different websites that you can find that.

But sometimes just hearing it, you know, and not have to do the research, but to be given, you know, in an auditory type setting, works out really well for a lot of people. So that might be something in the near future. Right. I think some of the questions, well, I'm going to say some of the questions, they're one of the questions people ask me.

They said, well, when you talk to Jerry again, can you ask her, what's the good gift for a cat or a dog? I'm like, okay. A gift? Well, you can't go wrong with toys. They have got some new interactive toys that are so cool you can see it on TikTok and Instagram where, you know, it's like a little mouse underneath the cover that goes one way and then turns the other way. And you don't really have to interact with them and it turns off and on by itself.

Those interactive type toys are great if your kiddies are a little overweight or maybe bored with the other toys, that's always a good thing to get. Treats are great. I'm kind of like on the fence with treats, and this is just my take on that. I know a lot of people like their little treats every day, and that's perfectly fine, but do not replace their food with the treat. They will make your pet gain a lot of weight, and it's like eating, you know, junk food a lot. Treats are just that.

They are a treat, and it should be limited to just a few a day. And a lot of times you can use those in training. You know, if you're training your puppy to sit and shake and roll over and always, always positive reinforcement. I can't stress that enough. You don't want to spank your pet. That'll get me going on that. But turn it around and give positive reinforcement, not. Negative. Because they don't know what they did. If you have accidents in the house, switch it around. If you spank a dog or a cat, they do not understand. What you're going to do is reward them when they go outside. Or if you use the pee-pads in the house, if they use that reward them every time and say, you know, good puppy, good dog, good kitty. And some people are even trying to-

The lady say, bad, bad doggy. I'm like, you just want to do that? They don't, yeah, they don't understand. And then they'll do the submissive wet, and then they're going to pee more on the floor. Right. So the positive treats, the positive reinforcement, after they eat and drink, immediately take them outside.

When you get home from work, if you're crate training, open the crate, immediately take them outside. Don't just give them all the love and the happiness right there because they will wet the floor. Immediately go and take them outside. Then you can play and get the ball and the treats and that's for a puppy or a dog. Right. Now, the kitties are a different story.

Hopefully we don't have to crate train. They should know their litter pan. And that might be another podcast. I had a gentleman call me the other day. Their senior cat all of a sudden is starting to not use the litter pan. Wow. So that might be another podcast of some things to start to try and re-look at, and I've done some research on that and finding if the kitty has arthritis,

if they're a senior cat, they've got some new things on the market that are great. And one of the things is a low-sided litter pan where they just step into it. They don't have to hop into it. So anyway, that might be another, I got all kind of ideas of new podcast about the, you know, the cat using the litter pan as they're getting older. Hello there, I'm Regina Sworn. Thank you so much for enjoying my podcast, stories, live true stories, people from all walks of life. If you are interested in being a part of my show, my podcast, please write to me at sworn virginia at email.com. Now, stories from all walks of life means I cover everything.

That's religion, politics, everyday life, music. You know, once a point of time, I just covered music, but now I cover everything. So again, contact me at Sworn, Regina, at Thurray. email.com. And thank you so much for taking out my shows right here at iHeartRadio. Take care. I got a question. It's about one of my cats. I don't know what to do because the cat is just too fat. And I'm trying to feed her a little bit. and see when I'm not home

she might go and eat everybody else's food she's just too fat so she's eating the other cat's food she's eating her food and she I just give her a little portions everybody get a little not a lot but then she

so she's the pig kitty of the bunch she don't exercise like everybody else okay she just likes to eat feeding her probably in a separate room I know that's a little bit more hard on you a hardship but you know trying to feed her separate so everybody else will get theirs everybody else will be finished she'll be in a separate room to finish hers then take up all the plates

that that is you're always going to have that one i've got a siamese that we call her the pig kitty and she will eat everything and be a glutton and gobble it down and then hurry and try to get everyone else's. So I'm having to feed her separate in the bathroom. And then after everyone else is finished, then she has no other food. She can go eat or dry food. So that might be a possibility for you to switch around the schedule on the location on the feeding. Okay. I'll try that. Yeah, they will definitely do that. And then, you know, puppies and dogs will do the same thing. They get to be gluttons. They have some really cool bowls out now. where, especially for the dogs,

it's got all different types of compartments and they have to work hard to get the kibble. And it's not just one big bowl and they just gobble everything. They've got to, you know, nose around and try to take their time. It's a challenge. Yeah, yeah, they take their time to get the kibble.

Yeah. So that's a... And sometimes it's just trial and error, you know, as they get older and, I mean, there's a big talk about kitty's getting dementia. You know, their brains to slow down a little bit and they can just sit there and stare in the corner of the room and you have no idea of what spirit they're looking at.

Right. But sometimes they'll sit there for an hour and just stare in the corner. So, you know, we see that as well. Wow. But you have to, you know, treat them patiently just like you would, a senior adult, and, you know, in a human, you just have to have a lot of patience and work with them. Certainly the best that you can.

Right. But we give you a lot of tips on to help those senior kitties. Boy, a lot of wealth of knowledge here today. Oh, my goodness. Gary is spitting it out today, y'all. Well, I just get to thinking of some other things. Something sparks another thing, and I just, you know, talking to so many people, even though I do have a full-time job, but I work, rescue, you know, all day long as well. Right.

So you hear different stories and situations, and you try to work through each one individually. But there was one other mention. Someone had asked, I think, before, how would they be able to give dotations? Say like your cat passed away or the cat, you bought a big bag of certain food and they no longer eat it. What do you do with it? We are thrilled to take any donations. We take monetary donations as well as cat beds or bowls or litter pans or anything related. Dog as well.

Now, I say cat because I'm mainly a cat rescue. but we do we work with some other dog agencies and we'll find a home for it so if you have you know things that you want to donate instead of just throwing them out um we are thrilled to take those we have we're at the mount zion pet smart in morrow and you can drop off donations there and then if you want to do a monetary donation we have a PayPal account and cash app and uh zelle different ways that you can, you know, give a donation. We are a 501-C3, so we are a nonprofit. 100% donations go to the animals.

And I can't iterate that enough because that's, excuse me, animal-based. It goes to our animals and not to a bunch of salaries. Right. Ooh. That is awesome. Are you listening to Cherry Clay Hayes from Rescue Cats Incorporated in Fayetteville, Georgia? And we're currently right now up at the PetSmart in Morrow because that's where she, on the weekend, on Saturdays, she conduct her adoptions.

And when I tell you, some of the most beautiful cats come through here, I mean, I got some at home. And I'm just so thankful for Jerry. Terry, we're thankful for you and your podcast and just getting information out there and hope, you know, someone will enjoy what we're doing and comment and ask more questions. Right. And that we can enlighten you at the Christmas time here before you think about a cat or kitten or puppy or a dog and to be able to assist. Right. So Jerry's got a lot going on

So we're excited We just was able to stop by her today And, you know, with her And IHeartRadio It was looking forward to this And Jerry, is it anything else you want to put Because I'm going to put it in the write-up I'm going to put it in the write-up

I'm going to put that in the write-up about the... Yeah, the donation should drop off at the Mara Putsmart or online or any monetary donations, we are thrilled to take those. Okay. And so we're going to put a lot of this in the write-up, so don't dare worry. Sherry has really been a blessing to the community.

She's been a blessing to me. I mean, I got cats at home right now that I got from rescue cats. And, you know, someone was telling me, like a couple weeks ago at the hospital, They said, oh, that lady is so busy. She said, I'm a nurse, and I thought I was busy. And I told her, I said, I thought I was busy too. But Jerry, I'm telling you, she's doing it.

We're all over the place. She's everywhere. She's everywhere. So, Jerry, if that is it for today. All right. I am thrilled and honor. Thank you so much, Regina, and I heart radio. I look forward to meeting with you again.

All right. So, Regina Sworn. Thank you so much for joining me for Regina Sworn Audio Series Presents. We had Jerry Clay Hayes on the podcast again. And as promised, you heard her from her own mouth. We're going to do more episodes because you want more episodes. So we're going to give you more episodes. Thanks for joining. Thank you. Thank you. Merry Christmas to all. Yay. Merry Christmas. Just a couple of days. Oh, my God. So Merry Christmas to all, and have a wonderful one a day. Thank you, Sherry. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Okay, that concludes another great broadcast. Thank you so much for joining me for Regina Swarring Audio Series. If you'd like to be a part of this series, please send me an email at Swarringorgina at gmail.com. I want to thank all of my wonderful friends. fans and guests for being a part of this show most of all I'd like to thank the Lord

until the next time take care of yourself and be safe Thank you. Thank you.