Sasquatch Chronicles - AREA 51: Former Counterintelligence Officer

Episode Date: June 20, 2022

I wanted to share this presentation in a podcast format. Sometimes when you are searching for answers it is important to look at other topics or genres. If this topic interests you, take a listen. Richard Doty's presentation centers on his assignment as a counterintelligence officer at Area 51. He will disclose never before publicly released incidents involving UFOs/UAPs and extraterrestrial contact and research projects.

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We're not going to be talking about Sasquatch tonight, and I don't have a guest. But I wanted to share this presentation with you from Richard Doty. And he's actually a former counterintelligence officer. He worked at Area 51. He was part of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations for about 10 years. Definitely an impressive military career. He's definitely legitimate. And he was a little bit of a weasel back in the day.

He used to go out and try and shut people up, tell him they didn't see what they saw. And now he's out there talking about it and talking about his experience at Area 51. I always say, you know, if you're searching for answers like in Sasquatch, sometimes it's important to go and look at other genres and see what's going on over here and see if any of it is coincidence or any of it applies to what we're searching for. He goes into an alien abduction of two kids and their parents were there. And this happened near Area 51 and they went to Area 51 for help. But the whole presentation is very interesting.

Let's actually jump into it. This is Richard Doty in his time at Area 51. Okay, I'm going to talk about my time at Area 51. I was there, a number of people approved, other than me, approved, I was there at various times between 1980 and 1985. I was involved in some investigations occurring there, and that's what this presentation is for. The official name for Area 51 is the US Air Force Flight Test Center, Detachmentary Air Force Test

and Evaluation Center. The units that are located at Area 51 or Groom Lake Complex is assigned to Edwards Air Force Base in California. And research and development section of Area 51 belongs to the Air Force Test and Evaluation Center out of Curtland Air Force Base. You know who I am. I was assigned Area 51 on a temporary basis during that time period that I mentioned May, 1982, to December 1985.

I worked in the special projects branch. Air Force Office Special Investigations had a number of different branches and divisions, one being special projects. The Special Projects Branch developed and implemented security policies and procedures for compartmented special access programs, and I'm going to discuss those here in a minute. Now, Area 51 was the hub, and this is in the 80s, the 70s and 80s. I was there in the 80s.

So I can only relate what I know and what I did during the 1980s. What has happened since then and what's out there now is for another presentation. But research and development encompasses a lot of things. Research and development on advanced aircraft, flying technology, space-based lasers, ground-based lasers, energy weapons systems. These are all the things I saw while I was at Area 51. We also provided counterintelligence support for Air Force Special Activities.

I had access to highly classified reverse engineering programs at Groom Lake and Tonnipa Air Force Base. It's called Tonnipaw Air Force Base now, before that, it was called Tonnipaw Test Range. That entire area, which encompasses Tonapaw Air Force Base, Groom Lake Complex, and Nevada test site, which is now called the Nevada National Security Site, is part of the Nellas Air Force Base Test Range. I worked on programs both inside Area 51 and at the Nevada test site. I investigated incidents that I will detail in this presentation. And we, I was part of a team that located Soviet-planted listening devices

on a perimeter of Nellis Air Force Base. That's for another presentation. These are the programs, some of the programs I was involved with during my time there. Project Candid Sky involved photographing space objects. We had a downlink, a satellite downlink at Groom Lake that downloaded pictures of space-based objects. Satellites, the primary mission there was Soviet satellites or Chinese satellites. Again, this is in the 80s, but we also were able to photograph other unknowns, unknown satellite objects, which were probably related to the ET technology.

Project Radiant Bravo, Bravo One, was one aspect of the F-117 program. It didn't involve the aircraft itself or the technology in developing the aircraft. It involved how we, the United States Air Force, tracked a stealth airplane. We built the stealth. It's flying. Now, how do we track it? This project, Radiant Bravo, developed a system highly classified, which is probably still classified today, and I'm not going to just go into that, that we were able to track our own aircrafts.

Project Might was high-speed lasers. It encompassed a lot of different laser technology, one being chemical laser system, a high-energy laser system. One of the things that this project did, and I was involved with the counterintelligence portion of it, was we were able to, and this is no longer classified, this came out in a book some years ago, we were able to fire a laser from the ground up towards a passing Soviet satellite, hit the lens of the Soviet satellite and blind at one over Area 51. We could use it at other bases such as Curtlin Air Force Base. It prevented the Soviet Union from photographing what we had in these sensitive areas.

Project Auburn Blue, this is probably one of the most classified projects out there, was the examination of captured space objects. Now, when I say captured space objects, it didn't just mean UFO-related or ET. It also meant what we could obtain and what we found that it came back in orbit and landed on Earth that was owned by the Soviet Union or the Chinese or even, believe it or not,

North Korea had a satellite at one time up there. This is still classified. Can't go into great details. At least, to the best of my knowledge, is still classified. And finally, Project MedStar. MedStar was an examination of captured ETs, the bodies, the creatures, the entities. Again, I wasn't fully briefed into this program, but I knew it existed.

I was partially involved in one aspect of it, and we'll talk about that later. But it's still going on today, and there's a lot of... very important people, very highly trained doctors and scientists that are working on that project. Okay, now we're going to talk about an incident that happened in 1982. This is kind of a gut-wrenching incident, especially for parents out there. A family was traveling in her 1980 Ford Station wagon from Eli, Nevada to Death Valley on vacation. They were traveling on Nevada Route 6, which was traveling on Nevada Route 6, which was traveling from, transversed from Utah all the way through to the end of Nevada.

The family consisted of David, the father, Connie, the mother, and two children, Katie, the nine-year-old daughter, and Keeley, the five-year-old son. Six miles west of Warm Springs. I'm sure some of you have been traveling through Nevada. Warm Springs is north of Rachel. If you follow that alien highway north, you come to an intersection, and that's Warm Springs.

Used to have a bar and grill there, which we'll talk about in a little bit. While they were traveling on six miles west of Warm Springs, they encountered a strange object traveling directly at them, towards their car. David tried to avoid this object, And now, let me go back and tell you, this is early in the morning. Very, very early in the morning.

They got an early start from Eli. David kept driving west. He kept encountering this object, and he told his wife that the object was a spaceship. David's wife began to panic. She told David the object was not traveling on the roadway, but flying above the roadway. The next sequence event were dramatic and frightening for the family. A tire blew out. Remember that because that comes into play in a little bit.

Connie the little wife placed her hand on the car's roof and felt a spongy substance. David detected a grayish black mist coming into the car. The car is still traveling. David's still driving the car. The family's voices changed pitched. They appeared to slow down. Everything seemed to slow down. The family heard a humming sound.

Couldn't detect what the humming sound was or where it was coming from, but it eventually got louder and louder and louder. David blacked out for a few seconds. He was still driving the car. The car was still moving, but he blacked out. The entire family became hysterical, crying and shouting. The children in the backseat was crying. and Connie was crying.

The family believed that their car had been lifted up in the air, so David stopped the car. He actually turned the engine off. The vehicle was off the road, off the south shoulder, and then David and the family got out of the car. David got his family out of the car, and he sought shelter in some scrubs on the south side of the roadway. The family observed an object land in the vicinity

of the car. The object was saucer-shaped. Three creatures exited the object. Now I know the word creatures are sometimes is somewhat derogatory towards ETs, but I'm relating with my report, and I did this report. I investigated this, how I wrote the report. Three creatures exited the object. The creatures floated to the family where they were hidden in the bush. This is something during our interrogation, we ask over and over and over and over again, did they actually flow? And the family, all of them, acknowledged that these creatures were floating. They were defying gravity. They were just floating.

David and Connie shielded their children, Katie and Keely. One of the creatures raised its arm and pointed at Keely, the child, the smaller child. Keeley then floated to the saucer. another creature pointed at Katie and the same thing happened. The creature moved its arm and Katie floated to the saucer. At this point, every parent in this room

were probably saying, well, why didn't David and Connie tried to protect their children, which we all would do? But unfortunately, they were paralyzed. They could see, they could hear, but they couldn't move their body. The creatures floated back to the spaceship or the saucer got in and left. David Connie then became, were able to move. They got back up, got in their vehicle,

and drove off looking for help. David drove west towards Tonapaw, the town of Tonnipaw. Along the way, he noticed the sign stating Tonapaw Test Range Road. Now, if you were driving in that road in 19802, that's exactly the sign that was out there then. today, if you're driving on there, it says a ton of Air Force Base.

Thinking, now, David didn't know what that meant, but he was thinking that it was a military base, and he could find help there. So he turned left, drove south, approximately 20 miles, and came up on the gate.

As they approached the gate, both Connie and David yelled for the two civilian security guards that were at the gate. At that time, in the 80s, the caretakers for Tonnapaw test range was Sandian National Laboratories, and they had their own security force, so the guards on this gate were private, the private security company, they weren't military. The two civilian guards approached the car, David, told them the story.

Security guards said that they'll call Nye County Sheriff's Department. This area was in Nye County, and so Nye County, Sheriff's had the jurisdiction of that area. While waiting for the sheriff, the security guards started inquiring and asking questions. Strange as it may be, the family, all were trying to speak at the same time telling the story.

About 30 minutes later, two OSI agents arrived on scene and started questioning him, David and Connie. I wasn't there. This wasn't I. That wasn't me, excuse me. I was at another location, but we did have OSI agents at Tonapaw, and they responded to the gate.

The deputy arrived sometime later and took a missing person's report. The deputy did not believe David and Connie. Even after Connie opened the back of the station wagon and got out of a suitcase with children's clothes in it, and also a bag with toys showing the deputy, these are my children's clothes and these are my children's toys. We did have children in that vehicle.

Then a deputy with really no feelings told David and Connie, if it was a spaceship that took your kids, there's nothing we can do about it. David and Connie at that point was hysterical. They were pleading with OSI agents to help. The OSI agents told David and Connie they would do all they could, but if their story was real, there isn't really any much they could do.

Now, you stop and think if everything they were saying was truthful, and this is in the 1980s, we weren't magical supermen. There really wasn't much we could do if, in fact, the story was truthful. David O'Connie left and drove to Tunapal where they stayed at a motel. Then David and Connie started making a number of phone calls to everybody they can think of relating the story. This is a map of the area where the incident happened. This here is the exact location where the incident happened.

Warm Springs is over here, Tanapah is over here. This is East-West Highway. The next morning, Tunapaw security guards patrolling a remote area of Tunapot test range found two children walking on a dirt road. The security guards drove the children to the children to the the security control office back at Tunapaw. Now where the children was found and it was an area called Wellington and we're going to talk about that in a little bit. It's about 70 miles south of Tunnappaw Contalment area or where the base is located. Once the children got back they were

examined by well first of all the security the two security guards identified the children the children knew they were and knew their names so it was confirmed that the two children were Katie and Keely. The children were then taken to an Air Force dispensary on Tonnepa on examined. They found to be slightly dehydrated, but otherwise in pretty good condition. OSI notified 9 County Sheriff's Department that they had contacted, they found the children and wanted the county sheriff to notify the parents who were standing a motel in Tunnappah. At this point, myself and my partner, his name was David also, showed up.

From the drive from Groom Lake, Area 51, up to Tonnipaw, it's about two and a half, three-hour drive. We got there, and we interviewed the children. I interviewed the children, my partner, David, interviewed a children. We asked him what happened. The children related that two creatures

took him into a spaceship, sat them in a chair, and strapped them in. They were scared. They kept asking for their minds. and daddy. The creatures were able to speak, but the children related, it sounded like a machine talking back to them. It wasn't a human voice and they couldn't figure it out, the children couldn't figure it out, but the creatures were able to speak English. Not good

English, as we're going to find out here in a few minutes. This is the actual picture of where the children were found. This picture was taken in 1982. I took the picture. This is Wellington area. The children were found right there. This is a road transversing the Wellington area. There's a satellite dish right there. There's a test area that the Air Force in Sandia laboratories used. This is a comparison to where Wellington is down here in Tonapaw, the Air Force flight line area is. This is all within Nenella's test and training range. The children told us that the creatures didn't harm them,

but they examined them from head to toe. They're the more concerned and more of a thorough examination of Katie, the girl, than her younger brother. They gave him pills. The creatures gave the children pills. that melded in their mouth, but they had no taste. It seemed to make them dizzy, and the children told us. They were somewhat dizzy, but they were able to still stay awake.

The creatures promised the children they would be returned to their parents, but they didn't actually say parents. One of the creatures was very tall, with long arms and very ugly. The children were very scared until the tall creature placed a ribbon. This is what the children described. A ribbon on each of their heads, each of the children's heads. And that seemed to calm them down immediately. The tall creature showed the children a map.

They took him into a room. There was a map on a wall. The creature was trying to explain something to the children. And we were concentrated on Katie because she was. the oldest, nine years old, and she could articulate a lot more and a lot better than her brother. And Katie told us that the creature pointed to a dot and pointed to her and pointed to the ground, and she assumed that meant that this is where we are, this is where you live. And then he pointed to another dot and then pointed to itself as if to say, this is where we live.

Now, later on during another interrogation or interview, I don't want to call it interrogation. It was an interview. Katie was able to draw the map, but only with those two spots on it. So I didn't really mean a whole lot to us or our scientists. The children then fell asleep and found themselves on a dirt road when they woke up. Now, there's some differences between what? Keeley told us, and the children were interviewed separately, and what Katie told us about how they ended up on that dirt road.

Keeley told us that he saw a ball of light, and he stepped into the ball of light, and the ball of light came down, and he was conscious when this was happening, and then a ball of light opened, and he was on this dirt road. Keeley told us something entirely different. Kili told us that she saw out a window, a desert. Obviously, she was acclimated to the area,

so she had no reference points or anything of where this was. And then she saw a bright light, but then she saw herself standing on a road. So two distinct difference, different stories about how they got on the dirt road. And we just have to take the word for it. Maybe there was two different ways of these creatures sending them down there. Another interesting thing, when the creatures were talking to them,

asking them questions, the children kept saying, I want my mommy and daddy. According to Katie, the creatures didn't know what a mommy and daddy was. They kept asking, what is the mommy and daddy? They didn't know what it was. And so Katie explained the people that we were with. There are mommies and daddies. And that's when the creatures used the word controllers.

Oh, they're your controllers. Yeah, that is something else. And another thing they said, the creatures told him, it was, we've known you for a long time. And that, of course, confused Katie. Keeley, I don't think, really understood that. But Katie said, I've never met you before. And this was a tall, ugly-looking creature.

He says, we've always been there. Whatever that mean. That's something that we couldn't understand, and I don't think the children could understand. Anyway, eventually the children were reunited with their parents. Obviously, David and Connie demanded answers to why their children were found on a military base. They accused us of everything from abducting children

to conducting some type of hideous research, playing war games, using their children, and abducting them and leaving them out in the middle of nowhere. Obviously, none of that was true. We had nothing to do with this. We took over the investigation. We re-interviewed the children of the parents again in details. We actually drove out to the site that I showed you

on Route 6. One of the things that Katie told us was the creatures took us from the flight pole. And we were really confused about that. I kept asking over and over again, what do you mean of a flight pole? She said there was a flight pole there. I thought, okay, I can't, couldn't figure out. Maybe she was confusing a school yard or something. And maybe, although I had no knowledge of this, but years later, I was thinking maybe if she was talking about a, another dimension or something. Well, come to find out, when we got out here to the scene of where the children

were abducted, lo and behold, along the roadway was a survey stake, a piece of wood with a little red flag on it. I'm sure we've all seen them along the roadway when they survey a road for some type of construction. And I looked at that, and I said, that's what she was talking about. She was exactly laying there.

The scuff marks, the tire furrows, we're all right there. So we know something happened right there. We took radiation readings. We photographed the area. We took radiation reading of the vehicle. We took radiation readings of the children. And the parents, the clothing.

We actually took the clothing from the family to analyze them, trace evidence examination. I'm not a forensic specialist, but we had them back in those days. We also coordinated our investigation in Whitewood, the Knight County Sheriff's Department. Unfortunately, Nike County Sheriff's Department didn't want anything to do with this case. They refused to come out when we went out to look at the roadway. That roadway, that's off the military reservation.

That's their jurisdiction. They refused to go out there. They didn't cooperate with us in this investigation. one of the things we did which is when our parent out there is going to probably criticize me for saying this but one of the things the Air Force did I didn't I wasn't involved in this

but they took blood samples from the children when they were being examined at the Air Force dispensary now at that time the parents weren't there so the Air Force the doctor that made that that decision who I interviewed later said I think it was for the welfare of the children that we

We didn't harm the children. We just took blood samples from them. When the blood samples were analyzed later, there was something in their blood that was unknown. The medical microbiologists examined the blood. Never saw anything like that in the blood. Didn't seem to hurt the children, didn't harm them in any ways. We followed them for some time. Children never showed any effects. Probably the pill that they put in their mouth that melted under their tongue. That was probably it that we figured out. When we took over the investigation, these were everything that we did.

The first thing I did was I contacted Tonnipaw Flight Control Center. That's the Air Traffic Control Center for that area. They advised me that there wasn't aircraft detected in the area, an unknown aircraft between 0,600, which is 6 a.m. in a morning, and left 43 minutes later. This is exactly the same time this incident happened, according to David and Connie, on Route 6. The flight control center also told me that the aircraft did not have a transponder or a squawk system. Every military aircraft lying in an area would have some sort of way that the air traffic control could contract. And that's called a transponder or squat box as slang for it. I also notified

Groom Lake Flight Control Center, which was Area 51, to have a separate runway. They told me, I was talking to a sergeant on the phone. He told me, yeah, there was a cardinal cited in the area, but it flew fast across the test range and disappeared. Remember that word cardinal? I said to myself, Oh, what was a military aircraft? Every aircraft flying around had a call sign. We're going to learn later that F-117s are call-side bandits. The chase plane is a chariot. They've used all sorts of different designations for call signs of airplanes.

So at that point, I thought it's one of ours. I was confused. I told my partner, I said, what the heck's going on here? They know it's call sign cardinal. Well, little did I know that when I call back to the air traffic control center and talk to a captain who was in charge, I asked him, I said, okay, what kind of aircraft is cardinal? He says, what?

I said, I was just talking to one of your sergeants there, and he told me the call sign of the, and that's not what he said to me, but that's what I said to the captain. And the call sign was Cardinal. He said, no, he didn't say that. He said, it was designated Cardinal. I said, well, what type of aircraft is that? And he hung up on me. I thought, something's going on here.

So anyways, we drove back. Nice partner and I drove back, and I was pretty upset, trying to figure out what the heck's going on here. So I went in and talked to my boss. His last name was Hutchinson. Unfortunately, he passed away some years ago. Very great person. Been in intelligence for years.

and years and years. He said, you need to go over to this building, security control center, and you need to get briefed on what a cardinal was. So I went over there, I got briefed. He knew what it was. Other PJs knew what it was. I didn't know what it was. I learned what it was. The cardinal was a designation for known extraterrestrial aircraft. There wasn't much the Air Force could do but send up fighters. You neither chase them away or engage them. But the Cardinals were so advanced they would outfly any conventional jets. We're going to learn about that here in a few minutes. So then I found out that we have a spacecraft designated,

extraterrestrial craft designated Cardinals. Now, there's only one other person that I've ever heard, and it's highly classified. And I know I was going to address this earlier, Believe it or not, there's two intelligence officers in this auditorium, and not me. I'm not one of them. They always attend these. I'm not going to identify them. I'm going to embarrass them, but they're here.

But anyways, there was only one other person I've ever heard in all my years of coming to these conventions that knew or even uttered the word cardinal. And that was Wendell Stevens. In 2000, Wendell and I talked about. a particular incident, which we're going to talk about here in a few minutes. And Wendell said, we were talking about other things, and Wendell told me, you know what the designation that the Air Force used for UFOs. Somebody that really knew and was really involved, now you all will know, is Cardinal. I said, I was flabbergasted because I thought, well, it's still classified.

But Window Stevens do it. And the people in here the new window, I know Bob and many others knew him very, very, very, very well. And I met him way back in the 90s. Great human being, great person, vast knowledge.

But he knew what it was, and he knew what it meant. And when we finished our report, we of course sent it to various people, one being the commander of the test range. as a general, one-star general, a brigadier general. He had compiled all our information reports

and sent a flash message up to headquarters Air Force. A flash message is the most highest priority, I know there's some people in here have been in the Air Force, highest priority message that you can send. Normally it's sent during wartime. A flash message went up,

went to the Secretary of the Air Force, Secretary of Defense, and eventually ended up on President Reagan's desk. I wasn't there at the time, but I was told that President Reagan was outraged over this incident, especially involving children. Why would these creatures, and they didn't harm the children, but they sure put them through a heck of a traumatic situation. President, on July 8, 1982, President Reagan issued a classified mandate to the Air Force. any sighting or contact with a cardinal would be confronted by U.S. Air Force fighter jets.

Those jets had blanket permission to down the cardinal. Remember this because we're going to discuss it here in details. Based on the mandate, newly acquired F-16 fighter jets were stationed at on alert at Grim Lake and Nellis. Now, the F-16s in 1982 were brand-new aircrafts. They had been test flown. They've been certified. They came into the Air Force inventory. It's very odd for advanced aircraft to be on alert inside the United States.

But these F-16s were. They were on alert at both Nellis and Groom Lake. Now we're going to talk about an incident, and all this is going to be related, believe it or not, at the end. Airy 51 developed advanced fighter jets, one of them being the F1-1-6. under Project Hab Blue. Defense Advanced Research Project Agency, DARPA, gave contract a Lockheek's skunkwork to create a fully stealth technology fighter

which was designated eventually the F-117. It was developed at Grim Lake and Tonapaw. The first flight was in June of 1981. It was a highly classified program went by various names during the R&D process, Habbleu, Hopeless Diamond, Senior Trend, and Tender Crip. All classified operations centered out of Tonapal test range. That's the 117.

Bandit 7 was a call sign for a 117 aircraft and a test flight from Tunnapa Airfield to Grim Lake. As I said earlier, aircraft had a designation of call sign, and this one was banned at all that. 117s or bandits. The number met the number of flights that were flown in that

particular aircraft. So this was the seventh flight for this particular aircraft. Chariot 10 was a call signed for an A7 COSAR, 2 aircraft that always accompanied the F-117 on test flights. Every time the 117

went up, the A-7 would go up. A-7 was an older jet fighter, Air Force jet fighter. And the A-7 was also used by the Navy. The A7 was a chase plane and also photographed and collected electronic data

regarding the flight of the 117. Banda 7 and Chariot 10 left Tonnipa on October 21st, 1985 at 2130 hours, which is 9.30 p.m. For a training mission. 15 minutes into the flight, Chariot 10 radio ground control,

which was call-signed base, that another aircraft was above them. Chariot 10 asked the base if there was other aircraft within the radar and range, and Bandit 7 also reported seeing this. And he said the magic word, UFO. Now, back in those days when a Air Force or military jet identified an object as a UFO, there's a lot of things that happened. Number one, they went to a secure frequency.

They have radios in their planes, and they went to a secure frequency, which is an encrypted frequency so nobody could tap into it. Secondly, ground control base had to record everything that was being said during transmissions to the airplane and from the airplane to the base. I'm going to add something, but I think I'll wait and add it later. Curiotton asked the base I'll wait and talk about it later. The base advised the UFO was on radar and what I'm going to talk about is

the difference between UFO, UAP, and UAA. In a 19 since I came on and worked for the government in 1978, anything that's in the air that's not identified was a UFO or a UAA, identified aerial aircraft. We didn't use UAP.

UAP was developed years later by the United States Navy, not by the Air Force. So I'm going to probably mix up some things here, calling it maybe a UAA at times, or UFO, but the designation back in those days was UFO. UAP wasn't in a terminology back in those days. The base designated the UFO as Bogi 1, and what I mean by that is for simplification and administrative tracking of what they're talking about, the base or ground control are always designated target as something, and it was called Bogi 1. Bogey 1 was being tracked on range ground radar. There were several different radar systems around Tonnipaw and Rangoon Lake.

There's a ground base radar, there's tower radars. We didn't have satellite radar systems during that time period, but we also had what they called roving radars. We had RC planes, reconnaissance planes, and radar tracking planes that always was flying around, not always, but was flying around that area, Tonapaw and Grim Lake. And those planes came out of Indian Springs Air Force Base, which is, of course, now Creature Air Force Base. Bogey 1 was also being tracked the Nellis Flight Corridor radar, which was at Nellis Air Force Base 100 miles away. Bogi 1 was not on any

radar control flight plan. That meant that every plane, every military plane that took off had to have a flight plan. Well, even today, most planes have to have an FAA flight plan. Back in those days, there was a form that the test operations director for these test flights had to fill out. It's called a flight plan, test flight plan.

I actually have the original flight plan here, and I'll show it later. Actually, I'm going to show it at the end of this presentation. Because of all this activity, two F-16s were launched from Nellus Air Force Base to intercept Bogie One. Chariot Ten was trying to distract Bogie One, but the Bogie One remained directly above Bandit 7. The pilot, the Bandit 7, the F-117 pilot I interviewed later, said it was like they had an adhesive tape to me.

Every move I made, it moved. I couldn't get away from it. Now remember, the F-117 was a highly advanced fly-by-wire aircraft. It was the most advanced flight control system that we had in any aircraft. But it couldn't break away from this U.S. foe or bogey one. Chiriot 10 tried to distract it, but it didn't work.

Finally, the commander, flight commander on the ground authorized the F-16s to blast the bogey-1 once the F-16s line arrived on scene. Well, there was already a blanket order by the president, but it was just reconfirmed by the commander. Boge 1 remained near Bandit 7. Chiriot 10 tried to fly between Bandit 7 and the bogey. I tried everything. I interviewed the A7 pilot.

He said, it just outmaneuvered us. We just couldn't outmaneuver the UFO. The ground control people were trying to contact this aircraft, the UFO, by radio, but of course that was unsuccessful. Bogie wanted to continue to fly between Bandit 7 and Chiriot 10 almost caused a collision. Now, somebody asked me once about, I will interject this here, about why UFOs have strange lighting system. First of all, there's navigational lights that have to be flown on military aircrafts, just like civilian aircrafts. Left wings red, right wings green, landing lights

have to be in a certain designation. They have to be on at certain times. So when you you see something flying in the air and they have a green and a red light, chances are that's probably not a UFO because they don't have to fly with navigational lights. But they do fly with lights. Bright lights, sometimes infrared systems, sometimes other types of lights. So the first thing the pilot had told us was it was a UFO because he distinguished it from any other aircraft because they didn't have any navigation lights. Anything was flying out there would have had navigation lights. Now there are times when those navigation lights are turned off and that's only in combat. If you're flying a combat mission in Iraq or Afghanistan, you're not going to have your

navigation lights on. Got that out of the way. Anyways, they tried everything. The F-117 and the A-7 tried everything in their power to break away from this UFO, but it just didn't work. The UFO out-frew flew both the F-117 and the A-7. It just could maneuver far faster and better than the other aircraft. In fact, the pilot told me that at one point, this UFO flew in a straight pattern across and turned on 90-degree angle and flew right at him. There's no aircraft that we have in research and development even then. or probably now that can do something like that.

So it was definitely not one of ours. Faring that Banda 7 might be damaged, Space Control ordered both Banda 7 and Chariot 10 to land at Tonnipaw Airfield. Bannett 7 made an emergency low-level landing at Tonnipaw. Chariot 10 remained in the air, flying cover for the F-117, till it was safety laying on the ground, and then Chariot 10 eventually landed.

Finally, the F-16s showed up. The cavalry arrived. They locked on to the bogey one, and one of the F-16s fired two-side winder missiles. Those were probably, in 1982, they were probably one of the most advanced missiles that we had. Radar homing. They homed on an object. They struck the bogey, and then the second F-7, the second F-S, 16 tracked that UFO while it landed and where of all places, Wellington.

The Trench Range Security and U.S. Air Force Security Police were dispatched to the Wellington area. Because it was so far, and we saw it on that map, it took about 50 minutes for security personnel to arrive on the scene. When they arrived on the scene, they observed this UFO on the ground, a saucer-shaped aircraft. Security personnel was advised by security control not to approach it. aircraft. We didn't know how dangerous it was, whether they were admitting radiation. So they said, stay back. A special U.S. Air Force security police team, similar to like a SWAT team, was dispatched from Area 51. They did have one at Tonapal. And that's, and from where Wellington is to to Groom Lake was some distance. A special down aircraft recovery team,

This is what I was talking about earlier, called an S-DART. It was a special down aircraft recovery team. It was dispatched from Nellis. That was a classified team. As far as I know, they're probably still in existence. The makeup of the team, the equipment used on the team is probably classified. But again, this isn't in public right now. If you ask somebody what an S-Dart was, they didn't know what it was.

but one person who did know what it was and probably was on an Army team was Clifford Stone. During a conversation I had with him, he used that terminology. He said, but I can't talk about it outside the circle because it's still classified. Fortunately, of course, Clifford died just a little bit ago. And I don't know what he did with the Army and what he did on the team

other than when he told me. We never interfaced with the Army on such a thing, but he knew what it was. The F-16s remained in the area. One of the F-16s had to leave. Once F-16 stayed, and lo-behold, that F-16 notified everybody that a second bogey, or a second UFO, had appeared and had landed next to the damaged one.

Now there's two UFOs on the ground in a remote area of Wellington. Security personnel at Wellington were ordered to withdraw from the mayor. Now, you're going to ask why? Well, it's something of referring to as a strategic withdrawal, so to speak. We don't know what the capabilities were of this aircraft, of the UFOs. We don't know if they had lasers or beam weapons or phasers or whatever. You know, we didn't understand that. At least that's what I was told.

Let me state this for a record. I was not there, okay? I wasn't there at that time. I wasn't there. Security personnel, there were all this eye agents there, but I wasn't one of them. Security personnel reported that the second one landed. It was identical to the first one. And so security personnel was ordered to stay about two miles away.

Helicopters brought in equipment and people. The inner morning hours, the U.S. Air Force security team arrived. the Air Force SWAT team, so to speak. They had special clothing, anti-radiation suits, special weapons, and so forth. Then you discovered there only one bogey on the ground. What happened to the second one? Well, this was through the night. Remember, the original incident happened at 9.30 p.m.

And this is in the morning now, hours and hours later. Somehow that other UFO had left. and unfortunately somebody wasn't doing their job because nobody seen it leave whether it was on radar or whether it was whether the F-16s didn't see it. Now the F-16s couldn't stay there, only had a limited supply of fuel so they had a shuttle back and forth to refuel.

Air Force helicopters flew out of the area and confirmed that there was only one bogey on the ground. The area was secured, all security personnel remained outside a two-mile perimeter. The S-DART team arrived early in the next morning. The base commander authorized the team to make entry into the area. We're in radiation suits and other equipment. They went in and checked the bogey one. But they did a perimeter examination of the craft that was on the ground,

checking for radiation, any hazardous substances being emitted, and they didn't find any. But they also identified or found that the undercarriage of this UFO was damaged. The Sidewiner missiles actually brought it down. Now all this is being coordinated with the headquarters Air Force. Now, Headquarters Air Force is course in Washington, D.C. The Pentagon's Emergency Operations Center is open. all this information is going through,

the Secretary of the Chief of Staff of the Air Force, the Chief of Staff of the Military, the Secretary of the Air Force, and probably down, although I don't know, but probably even down to the President. Headquarters decided to operate on a wait-and-see status. There wasn't anything being emitted from the craft, there was no danger or immediate threat to life.

And so they decided, hang back and wait and see what happens. So everybody withdrew it to a safe distance and waited and waited. Now, 11 days later, or 10 days later, the Air Force decided to go ahead and let, nothing happened. There was any activity during those 10 days. Air Force headquarters said send a dart team in. So they went in, they had explosive ordinances, disposal specialists. They're like the bomb team.

They placed two explosive charges. They couldn't figure out how to open the hatches. The scientists were there, and they tried to check to see if there was something how they could open it. They couldn't open it. But they used explosive charges, and they were to open a hatch. It opened. Security police went in, made sure it was safe, and then the scientists arrived. Scientific personnel from Area 51.

They included Los Alamos National Laboratory Sciences, Sandia, National Laboratory scientists, and U.S. Air Force scientific research detachment, and they examine the aircraft, examine the interior of it. It was later moved to the S2 complex, which I'm going to talk about in a little bit. The captured craft was identified as Cardinal 3. So if you do your math, now we have three of them. We have 1 and 2, now we have 3. It was described as a 30-foot diameter, saucer-shaped flying craft.

The exterior was made of an unknown material, but was extremely lightweight, and could absorb some waves. And they did all sorts of testing to determine that and in radar waves and other things. They actually weighed this craft. They only weighed 3,4005 pounds. The interior craft contained three seating positions with hand control panels. There were no other conventional controls, wires, switches, knobs, buttons, and aircraft. The flight control system and the propulsion system were unknown. So that's what we have.

The Cardinal 3 was considered an extraterrestrial craft. Now, before I go on to this next incident, I'm going to talk briefly about S2. Papus Lake. There was a facility at Papus Lake that was called S2. Now I'm going to differentiate between Bob Lazar's S4 in my designation of S2. Pappus Lake had a facility built underground. Some people, even in the media, found out that there was a construction company that was being employed in Nevada test site in the 60s and 70s.

They were digging holes out there that was actually hired on a contract to build a facility at Papuos Lake. It's into media. People are guessing what they did, but obviously some company built it. S2 was the complex, the facility. S2 had secret accesses. S2, or the top part of this area, was the administrative controls for the rest of the facility. S4 was the underground facility that Bob Lazar was talking about.

That's down under S2. I was never at S4. at S-4. Never was there. I didn't have a need to know. And we're going to talk about that here a minute. I had been into the administrative section. I've been many times conducting investigations, talking to people. It was still classified that portion, but I was never underground. When I asked Bob Lazar about the differences, how did you get in the facility? and there's a set procedure that you use to get in. And unless you've been there, you would have never guessed it.

And I haven't heard anybody guess it since. One person came pretty close was George Knapp. But other than, and he probably had somebody tell him. But there's a set procedure to get in. Bob Lazar knew that procedure. He knew how to get in. He knew what the exchange badge system was. So me personally, although Bob Zahlar would have been there after I left, I'm thinking that he was in fact there.

He did work down underground. Again, I was never there. Let me talk a little bit about security clearances. There was some questions some time ago about security clearances. People talked about security clearances. Well, Doty, if you had a high-level security clearance, you would know everything. How come you don't know all these things? Well, first of all, a security clearance doesn't give you access.

A security clearance gives you the ability to have access to classify information. You know, I went through expanded background investigation, and I got the security clearance to have access. Now, once you get the security clearance, there's a three-word phrase that everybody that's been in the military that have access to classify would know. and that's need to know. If you didn't have a need to know, you wouldn't have access to everything. I didn't have a need to know everything. I had a need to know of what my mission was

and what I was doing, what I was working on. If I needed a special clearance, referring to the cardinal, they would give me more access. So that's how it works. There's so much within the government about security clearances and then a special section of classified material

called sensitive compartmented information. That's the highest level. It's not above top secret. It's still top secret. It just has caveats. For instance, Yankee, when you hear something, a Yankee clearance, that means you have access to the White House

or presidential briefing papers or something to that effect. Gamma was another one. The NSA, my friend Mike from NSA, he knows about gamma and some of these other code words. That's how security clearance has worked in the military. Just because you had that security clearance doesn't give you access to everything. Another tragic, very tragic incident involving a family.

Some of your old-timers can remember back in 2000, Wendell Stevens mentioned this. Didn't mention names. Just mentioned an incident that happened. He talked about five. innocent regarding it, but I'm going to go into great details and tell you the full story. This family was from North Las Vegas. They decided to camp in a remote area of Nevada. George the father read an article about old mining towns in Nevada. The family picked Silver Bowl

mining camp and abandoned gold mine located in central Nevada. Silver Bowl was a booming gold mine at various times between 1904 and 1964. It is located on a northeast perimeter of Nellis Air Force Base Test Range. Now, maybe some of you have been there. Silver Bowl, it's right on the perimeter. It's a really neat place to visit. I was there in May. And people go there in camp.

It's not a campground, but people go there in camp. The family consisted of George, Virginia's wife, and two children, Denise H7, and Billy H-13. And Billy's going to be prominently mentioned later on. The family owned a 1977 Ford Station wagon, which was used on this trip. The family left their home in North Las Vegas, drove on Highway 93, up to Alamo, stopped at Alamo, got gas, got groceries, and arrived to Silver Bowl about 3 p.m. in the afternoon. The family set up tents and prepared for an enjoyable camping adventure. The family found Silverboat to be remote. There wasn't anybody else camping there but them.

during a tour of the site, kind of a nature tour, the family found a gate leading in a Nellis Air Force Base Testing Range. The sign prominently displayed a warning, use of deadly force authorized. Now, if you've been out exploring around the base around Nevada Test and Training Range Area 51, Tonapah, there are still some old signs out there that says, that. But most of those deadly force signs have been removed, but some of them are still out there. Anyways, that sign went with another warning sign that said, unauthorized personnel were not allowed on the base. The family had a fun-filling-fieling cooking, grilling hamburgers and

hot dogs, marshmallows, making s'mores. The family entered the tents to go to sleep about 10 p.m. Georgia woke with the sound of a motor running. And George thought, it must be somebody else camping here. He went back to sleep. George was awoken again by voices right outside his tent. So George got up, got dressed and walked outside. He found a military truck with two military people parked right there near the tent. The two military men told him, you need to pack up and leave the area immediately.

George said, why? The military men said, there's an escape conflict. back loose in the area. Joe Roca's family told them to pack up. Virginia was concerned as to the reason for them leaving. Now, all this information I'm getting here, obviously is coming only from, you're going to learn later why it's not coming from George. It's coming from Virginia. She's telling us this story. Virginia was concerned as to the reason why they were leaving. George just told them to pack up and leave. While they were packing up, George heard a radio voice coming over the

military radios, the walkie-talkies that the military personnel had. And it said for the military men to respond to gate for ASAP. Now, people have been in the military, you know what ASAP, and probably everybody, most people know what ASAP means as soon as possible. So, the military term says, you should be there five minutes ago. George had been in the Army and knew what ASAP now. The military men got in their trucks and left. The family people, packed up about 25 minutes. Once their vehicle was packed, George checked the area, make sure nothing was left, looked around. It started to get in his car when he heard a screaming sound. Everybody else heard it too, Billy, Denise, and Virginia. They couldn't figure out where it was

coming from. George walked to the car and opened the driver's side door. Suddenly something came up behind George and attacked him. Virginia witnessed this, and again, this is all coming from Virginia. George yelled for Virginia to drive away. Slide over, getting your driver's seat, and drive away. Now that's a hero, as far as I'm concerned. You know, he wanted his family to get away. He wanted to protect his family. He was going to fight this thing, and that's exactly what Virginia did. She slid a driver's seat and drove away. While she was driving away, Billy's in the back seat, screaming to his mother that something was chasing them, and it looked like a monster. Virginia stepped on the gas and she started sounding the horn thinking the noise

would maybe help her husband fight off this thing or scare it away. Virginia drove out to Revely Miller Road, south to Cedar Pipeline Road, and people have been in the area know these roads, eventually out to Nevada 375, which wasn't the Ehrlich Highway at that point. She drove south to Alamo, found in Lincoln's County Sheriff's Office, pulled up, and found a nobody was there. Because it was early morning hours. There wasn't anybody there, but there was a telephone there. And she immediately picked up the phone and called a Piochi,

which was where the headquarters from Lincoln County Sheriff's located. She explained what happened and needed help. Eventually, Lincoln County Sheriff's Deputy arrived at the station there in Alamo. Virginia explained what happened to them. The deputy explained a Silver Bowl

was in Nye County, but he would help him. He would notify Nye County Sheriff's and they would help. Then the deputy told him to drive to Warm Springs, I'm going to follow you up there, even though it was out of its county, and we're going to wait up there for the Knight County Sheriff's deputies to arrive. They did. At Warm Springs, two nine county sheriff's deputies were waiting. They took a report from Virginia and said they would respond to Silver Bowl, which from Warm Springs to Silver Bowl is about an hour away. The nine county deputies told Virginia to wait. About five hours later, the Lincoln County deputy told Virginia to wait. about five hours later, the Lincoln County deputy told Virginia to drive to Tonapaw and waited the sheriff's department for someone to let them in.

Virginia told us that when we interviewed her later, she said she knew it wasn't going to be good news. She kept trying to ask about her husband, but nobody wanted to answer any questions. And, you know, that's probably meaning that something dreadful happened to her husband. At noon, August 12th, 9th County Sergeant, Sheriff's to Sergeant, and a county chaplain arrived at the Sheriff's Department, and told Virginia that her husband had died. However, the body was taken by the military for examination. Once an examination was complete, the military would return to body. The sergeant told Virginia to stay at a motel in Tunnapal, and she would be contacted by federal authorities. the case would be handled by the government and not the county sheriff. Virginia had probably had means of questions that wasn't answered.

Virginia decided to take her family home to North Wales, Las Vegas, and she did. On August 13th, two special agents with Air Force Office special investigations visited a family, and I was one of them, myself and my partner, David. We revised Virginia that Georgia had been killed by an escaped convict. the conduct was caught and killed by military police. George's body would be returned to a funeral home in North Las Vegas on August 19th. The agents, we expressed remorse for the loss of her husband. Now everybody out there is going to say, why didn't you tell her the truth?

Well, at that time, I didn't know the truth. I was going on what I was told. This was a need-to-know thing. I didn't know about what happened. I was told you need to go to this address in North Las Vegas, contacted this woman. She'd already received a death notification, and you needed to give her this information.

That's all I was told at that time. So don't criticize me for saying, my God, why didn't you tell her this? I didn't know anything at that time. On August 19th, the U.S. Air Force mortuary vehicle brought George's body to a funeral home, and Virginia went to view the body. The mortician told her that George's body was in pieces and could not be viewed. Virginia wanted an autopsy performed, and the mortician said handed Virginia a paper, a form, it was a government form that said an autopsy

had already been performed at the Tonopopaw Field Hospital. I know that Tunnel Park didn't have a field loss bill. I know that. I don't know why the government told her that, other than to placator, to calm her down, or to let her know that an autopsy had already been performed. According to the form, George's body was found six miles inside the base perimeter. Virginia knew that wasn't right. Virginia had a lot of questions that weren't answered. But in fact, as you're going to find out a bit later, the body was found inside the test range. Virginia notified everybody that you could think of and nobody wanted to talk to her. Over the next six weeks, it should be six weeks, it's not six months, I'm sorry.

We called Virginia. We had many contacts with Virginia. We visited her. We gave her the phone number to the base legal office. Virginia did make a claim against the United States government. It was settled. She signed a non-disclosure statement. And she never had answers.

I actually tried to contact her with the help of another person. Robert Dean actually knew her. But she died in National Causes in 2005. Now comes Billy. Billy continued to seek questions about his father. Billy joined the Air Force. He was a security policeman station in all this Air Force Base. Eventually he was assigned to Grim Lake. On a graveyard shift one night at Grim Lake, he asked his supervisor, a master sergeant Groh, and that's his real name. And he's still alive, and I invited him here as I did Billy, but they couldn't attend. about the incident, the master sergeant explained to Billy what had happened, that escaped

E.T. from the Papoose Annex area, which is an area north of Papua complex, had escaped, made it up to the northern part of the test range, attacked a man inside near Silverbow, and killed him, and then drug his body back on the base. Eventually, Billy told Master Sergeant, that was my father. Imagine how upset that Master Sergeant felt. Billy retired from the Air Force in 2012, lives in Ohio. Again, I invited him there, here. I was going to pay his way.

Very, very quiet person. this is a photograph taken at Silver Bowl. This is taken two days after the incident. Right here is where the vehicle was where they were camping, right in this general area. There's a road here. The road actually veers off here and the base is over here in this area. Anybody but up to Silver Bowl? Might not recognize it looks a little bit different.

This is 1982. We conducted an investigation. I'll go through this quickly. I'm running out of time. The body was identified as George. Everything was confirmed of what the Air Force did or tried to do. They tried to stop this thing.

Didn't work out. This is a picture of Wellington. This picture of Tonapaw. I want to get to this real quick. Now, don't throw things at me. In 1985, 1980, these were the known E.T. races that the government had contact with or knew that they had been visiting Earth.

Now, I know people are going to say, no, there's 21 or 54, 116, 5,000, whatever. In 1985, this is what we knew, and this is what I was briefed into. I wasn't briefed in the entire E.T aspects, as I said earlier, at MedStar. These are the ones we knew. I don't know who named them. Probably somebody with the intelligence community or maybe the medical doctors. There's some reasons

why they were named the Lloyds at the end of it. Ebenz was the race that crashed in Roswell. We kept that ETLI to 1952. He died in captivity. The Arcoids are the Swedes, the Norwegian-type. quantumoids can be various things.

They can take different shapes. Hephthaloids are what they believe to be, the humanoids, part human or biological entity and part machines. The transaloids are the ones that killed George. This is a brief. I'm not going to go into that. These are my badges. Mary 51.

This one here is the staff badge. you got Air Force Test and Valuation Center Control Area 51. That's my badge to get in. This one over here is my badge. The issue was issued by Department of Energy to get in the Nevada test site. These are different badges that we used. There's other badges that we got there, exchange badge system and so forth. That concludes my presentation. This is my email.

I answer as many emails as I can. I get, of course, negative ones, critical ones, and I even answer them if they have questions. So if you want to send me an email, I'll do my best. So I have some time for questions. I'm going to be out there, but if you have a question, please step up for the microphone. Thank you.

Two minutes, five minutes. No, we're going to take me straight. Okay, okay. I'm going to go out there. I'm going to go straight out there. Thank you very much. I'm