Sasquatch Chronicles - EP:64 Sasquatch and the graveyard

Episode Date: December 8, 2014

Tonight we speak to several witnesses who share their encounters. We will be speaking to a railroad worker who had a strange encounter while working in a remote location. We may take a few calls tonight as well to let our listeners share their encounters. We will also be speaking to a gentleman who was in a graveyard with gang members and ran across one of these creatures for a night he will always remember.

Five, five, four, four, three, three, two, one, one. Gabon Mission. When I had come down this hill, I had seen this creature cross the road. They would have whipped my locked door from my truck, extracted me from my vehicle, and no one of that damn thing I could have done about it. This thing I got to notice in its eyes. Its eyes was real, real evil, real sinister, you know, the look it was given.

What are you're putting? Diem. It's about 60 foot, nine. I don't guess I'm looking right heading. Let's start the show. Websites up and running. We've had a few bumps in the road, but I think for the most part, everything's going pretty smooth.

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where you want to contact me, all of our contact information is in there. So feel free to utilize it. So I know on the blog we're trying to keep it, keep a lot of different stories, keep a lot of information and stuff that's interesting that you think people want to read. And one of the stories I read right after my encounter, and again, it's one of those stories

where you can't really confirm or deny if it's true or not. It's just a really fascinating tale of a Sasquatch in a crate. And the story goes, this old man's dying in his bed, and it's this woman's grandfather. He explains to her that he wants to tell her a story that something that happened in his life. And so he starts telling the story, and you kind of get the impression from reading the story that he was working for a person with a bunch of money. He talks about being the landscaper on the property. And a bunch of these guys worked for. this gentleman and they were asked if they wanted to work overtime there was a crate

coming in he needed them to go unload this crate so they all agreed to do it they go down to the docks of where this crate came in and the interesting story is they start pulling the crate out and it's a eight-foot tall five feet wide crate and they pull the crate out and they start loading it onto the dolly and there's several of these guys unloading this crate What happens is while they're moving the crate, they ask the guy in charge, what's in the crate? And the guy in charge says there is trees. There's a bunch of different exotic trees in the crate. So the guys start unloading it.

Well, something screams inside the crate. So all the guys become alarmed and asked the guy again, what's inside the crate. And he finally came back and said, well, it's a bear. So a lot of the guys walk off the job. because they want nothing to do with the situation. If this crate pops open or, you know, moving an animal inside of a crate, they're just a lot of the guys decide to walk off the job. This lady's grandfather and a bunch of guys leave the job site.

And a few men stay behind. They start moving the crate again, and they end up dropping it on the floor. They were trying to get it on a dolly, and they ended up dropping and cracking it open on a floor. And what was inside of the crate was they said it was kind of a, cross between like a monkey, an ape, and a person, and it was in a rocking chair. And it looked like it was all drugged up.

It had an ivy in it, and the ivy was nailed up on the side of the crate. It also had a water, had a thing so it could drink water that was nailed up on the side of the crate. The creature was chained down. It was in shackles. It was completely chained down on this rocking chair. And it just looked like it was completely drugged up.

Well, they're describing it. they said that creature had a shape of a man but was anything but a man. They couldn't give the heights and measurements since the creature was in a sitting position but they said it was huge. It had the shape of a man, it was a very large frame

and was covered with black hair and it says that its feet and legs and everything and arms were in shackles. The face did not look human but had some human features. But it said it looked more like a monkey or a gorilla and hair was extremely long and dirty. apparently it moved like it was maybe attempting some form of communication but was unable to because of the drugged up condition.

They couldn't understand why it was in a rocking chair. They figured it was probably to keep it from its muscles from stiffening up. He also said the odor was overpowering enough to make anyone pass out combined smells of urine, waist and body odor was rank. Some interesting descriptions and interesting, you know, for guys, to or if you make up a story like that, the details about it smelling probably wouldn't be in a made-up story, just I'm guessing.

Yeah, there's too many details, like you were saying, if they're just yard workers, for instance, like these guys were, you know, the groundkeepers. Things like they talked about a couple inches away from the creature's head with an empty water bottle nail to the wall, and on the other side of the creature was an IV stand or connected to the wall and stuck into its arm. and I really don't think somebody, you know, that's doing maintenance work on somebody's, you know, yard and everything is going to come up with those kind of details.

The rocking chair thing kind of creeped me out a little bit when I read that actually. It was just strange to think about that. And that's another really odd detail. Why, if you're going to make up a story, why would you come up with something like that? You know, I'm just wondering if, you know, they're getting at the fact that maybe this rich, person was interested in keeping, you know, an exotic pet or something. I'm just, I'm really, it's a curious story. And it's not the first of that kind of story we know about. Now, we don't really have any hard concrete proof, but going back to the Minnesota Iceman account, you know,

the original person who had that, apparently later on was not the owner of that creature. And it was very widely suspected that it was actor Jimmy Stewart who actually owned the Iceman maybe not originally, but later, you know, that one was kept in a crate, moved around, and, you know, of course, a copy was made, and there's been all sorts of weird things about that, but not entirely. Of course, that was a dead one, but it's not, you know, you've got the element of a rich person in control of something like this, and it's being moved around. So lots of similarities between the two cases.

Let's say the story is true for a moment. What did that guy think you, let's say there was a Sasquatch in the, in the box, what is he going to do with it? You know what I mean? Keep it shackled the whole time. And the question is, how did he get it in the first place? Who got it for him? How did they do it?

Where did it come from? And you're right. Where was it going to go? What were they going to do with it? Where is it today? People keep small primates in their house on occasion. And I've heard pretty much horror stories about what happens with that. Can you imagine having a Sasquatch in your house?

I mean, obviously it wouldn't be a hairy in the hen. There's some situation. Like you said, it has to be probably in a huge cage or something. But my goodness. You sure wouldn't want it on your furniture or cleaning up after it's messes. I love when he sits down on the couch and it just splits into it. That's a great movie, you know. That's great.

Looks like we get a call here. Oh. Let's talk to him. Hey, Luke. How are you? I'm good. I'd like to just tell you a brief experience I had a while back. I was in the mountains up in the mountains up in.

Virginia with some friends, camping out. We were up there in the Shenandoah Valley for a couple of days. We were having a good time. We had no alcohol. We've been up there a couple other times before this. And we probably right about July, two years ago, this nice warm night. We started putting out the fire. We kind of heard some noise on maybe two, 300 yards from where we were at.

We didn't think nothing on it. We thought it might be, you know, a bear walking by. We had no firearms, no sidearms or nothing with us. We kind of stayed up for a little bit. Noise didn't come back. And then maybe about an hour later, we heard the same noise, but rocks started coming in to our campsite to the point where these things landed on our carers,

pictures of actually these rocks. you know, we didn't know what to do. We shined flashlight. We made noise. Pretty much stayed up the rest of the night. In the morning, we went, we actually even went and got the park rangers, and they came, and we saw what might have been footprints that was kind of dry, so, you know, you couldn't tell if there was, you know, any impression in the ground.

I've never really believed in the Bigfoot. I mean, I suspect something might be on there, but after this night, I could tell you, I've been around the world and I'm an outdoors person. I've never, never experienced something like this. And the first question we asked the park ranger was, you know, is it possible some teenagers or some other campers might be around? and when you camp in this, Sherendandoah Valley, you have to actually register so they know who's in there

because you get lost in these woods. And some people don't register. And he told us, he said, listen, from what we could tell you, you're the only group of guys that were out there. We've heard stories like this, but we don't take no record unless there was an injury. And I said, oh, why don't?

Well, I didn't, but one of my friends with me asked, why don't you take a record, you know, and they didn't have an explanation for that. I could tell you I was pretty scared, and my friends were scared. You know, I don't know what was throwing the rocks at us, what was making the noise. We didn't smell anything, you know, from what I hear. Sometimes you could smell big foot or satch watch. I tell you what, my son's asking me to go camping up there this upcoming summer. and I'm not quite sure I really want to do that.

Did you ever hear of any other accounts around that area? We have because when we left that, when we were done camping there, obviously we had to get some gas for the hall back, and we had stopped at this little local gas station, and we kind of told us, I don't know if he was the owner, but the guy in there working in the store, we picked up some water and some beet jerking and some potato chips and stuff for right back and we told him and happened and he said him and another old guy said yeah you know

that's a very common thing up there and you know they a lot of hunters are seeing these things but they just don't report them because when you report a sighting nothing will happen so that's the only person like a local person who maybe confirmed other people knowing or seeing or encountering these things. I'm definitely a believer. I've been in some, I was in the military for a lot of years. I could just tell you, I've been in some situations before, but this was pretty scary.

I'm kind of curious what vocalizations did you hear? We didn't hear no vocal, like no sound as far as straight. I mean, it was more like of a grunt, you know, like, like uh, maybe something like that. And it didn't, we, we only heard a couple of them. It was more like rocks were being thrown at it.

Small rocks like, the size of your hand. And a lot of them too. Because obviously when we pulled into the camper on, you know, we, we moved everything, uh, you know, any fallen limbs from trees and stuff, you know, so the tent would be fine. and we wouldn't trip on anything. And so we cleaned it up pretty well.

We knew for a factor we were no rockster, so we didn't hear a lot of noise like any yelling or howling or nothing like that. No talking, but more just throwing stuff at us. And it definitely was rocked. How close were they to hitting you guys? Oh, they were coming in like probably within, you know, 15 feet. and at one point we actually got into our cars because we didn't know what to do. Unless the bear could throw a rock or another person was doing it,

it's beyond my explanation. Yeah, especially with people. You know, you throw rocks at people at night while they're camping. It's a good way to get shot. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. I mean, for sure. I mean, even you could get shot, but at the same time, you could actually hurt someone.

you know, you could kill them. I mean, a lot of bad things could happen when you're throwing rocks. And like, Ranger said, he didn't have no record of anybody camping in that area. And he said, I can't tell you if there were some people that got into the park, you know, and they were maybe camping, hiking, and they weren't registered. But he said that, he told us that we haven't had no campers throwing rocks with people. And we asked him, point blank, what do you think? was, do you think it was a big foot? And he said, well, you know, I can't really make comments

on that. You know, I have my own job in my life and I have to be just telling you what I can tell you. And we didn't think nothing all of that until a couple weeks later, you know, why would a person perhaps not to be like conspiratoria or anything, but, you know, why would he, it was almost like after we thought about this, you know, talked about it, it was almost like he was, he was briefed by someone in charge to respond, you know, with those answers. It was just an odd situation. I think a lot of people in that position, you know, Park Rangers and such, they probably have a script that they play from when talking to people about these things.

It was interesting. He asked us, you know, where do you guys drink in? You're doing any drugs. And, you know, we told him, no, you can look in our car. You could look and we have nothing to hide. you know, we've been to Colorado before, west before, and, you know, we've camped out a lot, and never heard nothing like this or experienced nothing like this. And I don't really tell a lot of people about it because I don't know if there's really much to tell, you know.

It could have been a bunch of teenagers just drinking a bunch of beers, you know. Maybe they were out for the summer, just graduated. It could have been anything. I don't know. What do you think it might have been? Well, pretty narrow. narrows it down if something is throwing rocks. Either it's people or a Sasquatch. People doesn't really make sense.

Right, right. I mean, if it was in like the middle of the daytime or something, like I said, it was pretty scary. My buddy said, if we ever go out again, man, he's bringing his his gun. You appreciate you sharing the story with us. I appreciate you taking the call and I kind of liked your show, you know, I listened to it. In fact, I just learned of this show probably a couple months ago. I Googled, you know, Sasquatch, and it came up,

and I've been listening to it ever since, and my buddies have dialed in, too, so it's a nice thing. I appreciate that very much. Yeah, thanks, Luke. So, you know, you're welcome, and thanks for taking time to hear my story then. Oh, thank you. I posted a video on December 4th. I think it's a grizzly bear chasing this guy on a bike.

Yeah, that's pretty awesome, huh? Yeah, I know it's not really Bigfoot related, but it was interesting to watch guys wearing this to describe it if people haven't seen it. If you go to Sasquatch Chronicles.com, it's one of the blogs on December 4th. This guy's on a bike, riding downhill. All of a sudden a grizzly bear comes out of nowhere

and starts chasing him while he's on his mountain bike, and he's going down the trail, and he runs into, there's some debris in the road, so he has to drop, he has to get off his bike. He gets off his bike and he takes off running. I know for a fact that Grizzly Bear could have caught him if it wanted to. It's almost like it was kind of screwing with him. I'm just going to say, yeah, I agree.

It looks like a real half-hearted attempt, you know, to catch him. Yeah, very half-hearted. And it made me think of that kid in Texas that had what he described, to gorilla, chase him down, yank him off, has been the bike and then throw it up in the tree. It's almost like it wanted the bike and not really him if you watch it. Yeah, that's what I'd say too,

just like the kid you mentioned in Texas. It wasn't really interested in the human. It was more interested in whatever the bicycle was doing or maybe a sound that was making or something. Yeah. I want to welcome Rob to the show. Rob's actually a railroad worker, and he had heard a strange vocalization

when they were out on the tracks. You know, I did want to mention Speaking of that, there actually had been a lot of reports along railways or on railways Going back to the Jacko story, for instance, you know, that young Sasquatch had been hanging around a rail line In British Columbia until it was finally captured. And even my own first experience finding tracks was on a set of railroad lines.

Yeah, that is an interesting point. I want to welcome Rob to the show. what part of the country was this in? It's in southern Oregon in the Cascades. And you were going to tell us the time frame? During the day, between 2 and 3 p.m. we just got done eating lunch. The bad part of the deal had been raining. It rains down here all the time.

They say, oh, if you don't like the weather, just wait 15 minutes, it'll change. No, it rains. It's not the game. Yeah, and so I got put with another senior employer. employee and they're like, okay, we're going to drop you off at this location. We need you guys to fill in all this stuff by hand. They took all the equipment and went like six miles away. And they're like, we'll come get you at the end of the day. Really too happy about the situation. But we're like, okay, this is we're getting paid to do. So we did. And there was no train traffic. That's probably going to give it away. No train traffic that day. Even the first part of the morning was rare. So it's just me and him. We have no radio. It's just me and him.

We weren't, you know, really in any danger we had worked on around through there before. And so we're shoveling in all this mud and mud, and we're griping to each other. Just, you know, not bickering to each other, but just like, this sucks, you know, type of thing, but this is what we got to do. So we kept doing what we had to do. It wasn't raining that day, which was nice. That's one thing we're happy about, but everything is. just soft with mud. It's like 11.30 and we're like, well, let's just

get something to eat. We'll take her lunch. So we did. 30 minutes, went back, started filling in all this slop again. And what was weird, what we didn't realize until we kind of talked to each other later was it was quiet that day.

Besides no train traffic, we heard no birds, no chipmunks, no nothing. Usually you hear them all the time because they're everywhere. Pretty unusual. Yeah, but we didn't really think about it at the time. We were most folks seeing on this, get this crappy job done, just keep going. It was between two or three.

We knew it was after lunch. We'd been working a while. And all of a sudden, we hear this, I would call it a roar, but it was deep low, I mean low, low baritone, to the highest screen pitched that, I mean, Mariah Carey could hit. I mean, it was there. And it lasted, I would say, 12 to 15 seconds,

which I don't know any animal or human that could, but what freaked us out the most was it made our whole insides rumble and automatically, I'm even talking about now, my hair standing up. I mean, it freaked us out. back because it sounded close. And we weren't making any noise.

I mean, we had no handheld radio with us, no one to keep in contact with. There was no train traffic. It was just us. It was weird as we're like, we're way up here where nobody is. Nobody. There's no hiking trails. It's property. It is way out where people just don't go besides the employees.

And we were like, just kind of looked at each. other and my co-worker he's a very large man he's like six three two hundred and eighty pounds and we call him Gare Bear because he's built like a bear he's a big man and he looked at me and I looked at him because it just went on from like 12 15 seconds I mean just a long time and we just stopped what we're doing and it didn't echo but we were working up kind of off a cliff that went down into a ravine, but it's so heavily wooded, you know, you really can't see the bottom. And we're like, just kind of looked at each other and just kind of nervously, I looked at him and

like, what do you think that was? And he goes, I don't know, but it sounds like it's big enough that could rip us apart. And I was so scared, I just started nervously giggling, you know, and he just kind of looked at me with big eyes, and I'm just like, okay. And he goes, Do you think it was like one of those big foots are saskwashes? And I'm like, I mean, because we kind of talked about it later, and I grew up in a hunting family. My dad was like hardcore hunter, and I hunted with him. My whole life, Gary, he's, you know, is from Humboldt County, California.

He hunted, and I've heard cougars, I've heard bears, I've heard coyote, Wolf everything. Nothing has ever sounded like this that long. And what creaking out was just he was even nervous. I mean, I could see the hair and he has a crew cut. The hair standing up on the back of his neck. We just kind of looked at each other and he's like, we just stood still like 15, 20 minutes. We didn't do nothing but just list dead silent. And that's one thing, you know, me and him talked about after the fact. and then he's like, you know, I heard these things do wood knocking. And I'm like, well, yeah, I've kind of heard that too. And all we had was shoveled, you know, in our lunchbox is that's it. And he kind of joked. He goes, should I try hitting the tree? And I'm like, nervously, you know, I'm like, well, yeah.

And he just barely tapped tree, I think like two or three times. We sat there and we waited. Nothing, nothing. So we just nervously went back to work. Well, as we started filling these trenches back in, he's working on the cliff side. I'm more up, away from it, at least five, six feet. So I can only see, like, over the ridge,

maybe 15 yards where he might be able to see 20 yards, but it's so thick. I hear nothing, nothing. All of a sudden he looks at me and he goes, I'm creeped out. He goes, I don't like this. So if he turns around, so he's trying to look down, and he starts filling this up, I'm like, well, do you want to trade spots?

And he goes, yeah. You know. So I'm like, okay, he's obviously scared, so we switch spots. So I start going over there. But then again, I get that just that uneasy feeling that you really shouldn't want to look over your shoulder, but you don't want to look type of thing. So we just kept going. Could have been a half hour later.

Maybe 20 minutes from our southwest behind us, we hear the same thing again. But it sounds like it's a tad bit farther away. But the same octave, the same decibel, but I'm farther distance away, you could tell the first one was close. And it just, the second time it did. it, we got uneasy again, and by that time it was getting, you know, towards the end of shift, and we're just like, forget this. We just put our stuff down and said, we're going to walk away about 50 yards where there was a claim, and we stood there and waited until the assistant foreman came, and he's just like,

you guys get it done, we're like, uh, kind of. And we just kind of left it at that. And he's like, well, what do you mean he didn't get it? And we're like, it's just too big of a sloppy mess. You know, it's got to dry out. And he's like, oh, you guys have been here all day. You should have got it done. We're like, well, you know, it's been raining three days straight.

This is just clay and mud. And he just kind of dropped it. He kind of chewed her butt for a little bit. Next day, they gave us a new guy, you know, a rookie. Come help us finish it up. And the same thing, they dropped just off. and we went back out there and gear bear is like, do you want to tell him?

And I just kind of looked at him. I'm like, uh, yeah, you know, what do you want to say? And he's supposedly a big hunter, but we found out later, you know, he tells a lot of stories, but we kind of told him what happened. Not 100% detail, but just kind of filled him in. He goes, oh, well, you guys just heard of. an elk would be a grilling. And we're like, no, we didn't.

We know Gary called in elk. I used to do it with my dad. No, that wasn't elk. Well, you guys must heard a cow elk. No, that isn't it? There's nothing. We told him, we're like, dude, there's nothing that could make this sound. And he just kind of poo-poot us and teased us, you know.

And then he told a couple other guys, and they started ridiculing us. And we just finally dropped it. I mean, we talked about it. I think once to the fact. And we're just driving one day, you know, going to Utah. And he goes, what do you think we heard that day?

And I'm like, I think I know what we heard. I said, dude, he goes, there's no way. It had to be what we think it is. You know, we really didn't want to talk about it, but we both knew there is no human,

there is no animal that we've ever personally encountered, and we both encountered some of the same animals, you know, that could make this type of noise that much. The description is it just rumbled your whole insides the first time and just made your whole hair stand up. I mean, I've been with people that buged in Elks and they're snorting and stomping and doing this. It was nothing, nothing like that.

It was just like being in front row of a rock concert when the guy comes out and just hits the first guitar chord and just shakes your insides. and it just fussed out. Did you guys see anything around after that? No, we never actually got any visual, and that's what really bothered us, because it was so thick,

but what really we thought was strange was the first time we heard it, it seemed so close, and then the short amount of time it seemed so far away, but a lot of the people that work up here routinely, and I've worked with other co-workers that have worked up here. They've seen bear, they've seen, you know, a cougar and there are two cubs. And there's one individual that will not go to a certain place to work at least at night. Did he ever say why?

No, he wouldn't. He keeps a tight lift. He just said, if he gets a trouble call, he drags his feet. It's always, you know, he just said, well, you know, I kind of figure out if it's somewhere before there or after there before I have to go there and that's always ever said.

But, you know, he's made the same comment about cougars. You know, there's one certain area that everyone knows a cougar hangs out there and right now I'm working with some guys that are contracting out following make sure you know, they're doing what they need to do

and they made the comment this week which I thought was weird was they're like, we haven't seen any wildlife and I haven't either. I mean, it's been pouring down rain though, but we haven't seen no deer, no elf, no nothing, but still even then, you know, we go all through the Cascade Mountain Range and just this one certain area. And I guess I was never really into it, you know, growing up, telling my age I've seen in search of and all that, my parents used to watch it, but I never really had any interest until this situation started happening, and I started researching, and I can't remember the year that it happened.

Supposedly, a train had hit, and I want to say it was the 60s or 70s, you guys had after research the data, because I can't remember. It hit two train men, and a conductor had hit something going through Shemal Org during a snowstorm. and at first they thought it was a bear. Apparently, according to the story, I don't know if it's true or not, I've never heard it from anybody else, just from what I researched a little bit, that they got so freaked out that they hit it off

and then never told anybody about it until after they retired, thinking that these guys were on drugs or drinking on the job. And so after I read that, like, well, that's kind of coincidence. And then I got on BFRO, and I really don't want to dwell into that, sorry, but there were certain sightings in between Willamapass ski area and Diamond Peak. As the crow flies where we were at, we're about five miles from where Diamond Peak is. Not very far.

And it's where a lot of people don't go. Yeah, it's interesting. You mentioned the lack of game sign in places where these things are. And I have an area that I work frequently that when the creatures are in there, there's around the area more than abundant game sign. Or area where signs that these creatures are, there's absolutely no game sign. At least deer, there's a little bear in there, but no deer, no anything else. I mean, droppings, tracks, nothing.

That's one thing that, you know, we just, we really didn't talk about until afterwards and then just started pushing back and, you know, throwing ideas back and forth. They're like, hey, do you remember here? And I was like, no, you know, now you speak of it. Because before this deal happened, we'd see deer once in a while. We could high rail down a track. You'd see a couple of elk in the bushes, this and that. And once in while you will. but during that

time frame I would say within 30 days there was nothing but that particular day because we kept talking about it afterwards just in between him and me we wouldn't talk sorry anybody else

we had already gotten heckled you know you guys were just making stuff up or you guys were out in the sun too long and we're like well there was that was the first sunny day we've been waterlogged And there's always chipmunks out.

There's always the crows are abundant up here. And we didn't really pay attention that because we were focused on our job until we went back and started thinking and talked to each other. Like, no, I don't remember here anything that day. And plus the train traffic was like none, which is so rare too. And we're like, okay, that's odd because, you know, it just, I don't know, it's something I've never experienced before in my life and he never has either and I think we talk to each other about it for maybe about three months after the fact and then haven't talked about it sent. I kind of let it go but now I'm down here working with some contractors, you know, by myself and we've had to go back through that area and it's why I sent you guys an email to just even though it was in the back of my head I was just like I've been here.

here before and just eyes open, you know, and then contractors the other day are like, we haven't seen anything, haven't heard anything. We heard there's so much abundant wildlife. And then it clicked back. You know, it's not like I forgot about it, but just nothing drew it up. And I was just like, that's right. You know, but it's been just pouring down rain and snow here. Right.

But, you know, still, sometimes it's a lack of sign that's just as important. and there's the things you do find. Yeah, and it's not like we went out looking, you know, we were paid to do a job, and then again, when the first time we heard that thing, there ain't no, even with a weapon, I wouldn't went down there. There's just no way it was that bone-chilling to both of us,

you know, and I didn't think the guy I worked with, you know, I'm not afraid of much, but I didn't think he was afraid of anything. And he's just like, when he made the comment, it sounds like it's big enough. It could tear us apart. And then it clicked with me. I'm like, it's got to be what we both wouldn't say at first, but thinking about. We both heard the same thing, same time. You know, we weren't by herself, you know, just us two.

And it was something I'll never forget. That's the kind of thing, too, that really, you know, from that point forward really heightens your sense of awareness when you're in that area and other areas that are remote too. Oh, yeah. I mean, even now to this day, I mean, I've worked in Utah, Nevada, California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho. Everywhere I go now, I look. You know, it's a rare chance. I doubt if I'll ever see one, but I always look.

Always think. And then if I am in a situation where we're there for several hours, there's other situational awareness we need to be aware of, but I always have that in the back of my head. Is there something there, something watching me that I can't see? It always makes you wonder. Like a self-preservation deal clicks in your head besides everything. You need to worry about your job.

There's something there that now clicks in my head saying, okay, we might be loud right now, we might be quiet tomorrow, but even if we're loud, is there something there because it's so thick you can't see? Yeah, it sort of makes it more of a primal instinct kick in. Yeah. Rob, I was wondering, how long had you guys been working in that specific area before you heard that roar? We had just started putting in new installation for upgrades, and we were the

only crew that was up there for several months. And we had actually just put in a brand new case the day before. We, you know, we'll usually go scout out of sight, see what they want us to do, map everything out, measure it, and then come in with our equipment. If we can do it, the majority of the time it's by hand, do it, and then get out. But we're under a time frame. They're like, okay, we got this house set. We got this in.

All right, you guys finished this by hand. We're going to go six miles this way, jump on the next one. So I would say maybe just one day of actually making noise with equipment. And then we were just there by ourselves quiet the next day. Yeah, I think when you hear that war scream that you heard, Rob, it's something that you immediately know is, it falls into the unknown category. Because I've heard that before. when you say it shakes your insides, it really does shake your insides when you hear it. And there's immediate fear.

You know, it's not like anything you've ever, even if you're not a woods person, you know, out in the woods, hunting, camping. Even if you don't do those activities and you hear that noise, it shakes you up. Thinking about it, you know, I've watched, there's so much publication on TV now. And I've heard that and I'm like, no, that that's not it. I've heard him, people do call blast, you know, on video stuff. I'm like, no, no, that's not even close. You know, there's only, I think, one audio clip that I heard that came close, but B&Gino, it's over a computer, it's not the same.

I know for a fact, and my partner, you know, co-worker could agree. There's nobody that would even be they did, and they had that lung capacity, they would have a record deal with Sony or CBS or any of those guys and then be able to Trant move quietly that far. And we talked about two things. Well, maybe there was two. We don't know. Yeah, it's very possible there were two.

Yeah, and the volume by itself, I mean, that's something if you've never heard a screen from one of these things, you really can't imagine what it's like unless you're standing there. listening to that noise and but long capacities are unbelievable with these things. Yeah, you feel it as much as you hear it. Yeah, and that's what I think freaked us out because, I mean, I've been undercover and guys bugling in Elks and they come in 50 yards and they know, nothing, nothing like this. I mean, it was, you know, I'm used to trains going by me honking their horn and it's just

Just the lower deal of it was about, I wouldn't say decibel level, but the recution level of a train going by you at 50, 60 miles an hour to make your insides rumble, but just in octaves, and then go all the way up enough to make your hair stand up. That sounds about right. Well, I guess you kind of touched on how you feel about going back. I don't blame you for, especially when you're unarmed, because, you know, when you're out there like you are,

I can't imagine the railroad looks too kindly on you guys carrying weapons out there while you guys are out there in the middle of nowhere. Zero tolerance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not that I'm afraid now. It's more aware. I mean, we always talk about, especially we, I mean, we work, you know, in desert where there's rattlesnakes, you know, helo monsters, whatever to appear in the northwest where you got bears, every.

We always talk about safety awareness of being aware of your surroundings, isn't that? Hunters, people, drunken hillbillies, you know, you name it. We can run into it occasionally. But this situation that happened just makes me more situational of my surroundings at all time more than normal that we're what we're used to practicing doing, especially in this area now. well i appreciate you coming on appreciate it coming on the showdown well thank you

and if you get a chance to check out our website if you're looking for more information we got a ton of information up there and i don't know if you just have your cell phone but tons of stories up there tons of there's just going to be a ton of information coming up on there so i know you found us on youtube

i don't really post a whole lot to youtube anymore yeah you can get on there and all the encounters from there a lot of stories on there I had another railroad worker I was going to tell you about that he didn't want to come on the air and talk about it, which is fine. But him and another worker were working on tracks. They'd been dropped off kind of like your situation. I don't know exactly what the situation was. They'd been dropped off.

Two guys were working. This thing had stepped out from the forest. I think it was about 100 and maybe 75 to 100 yards from them. And I guess it was just massive. and he was telling me that it was, you know, he was like, I think it was a gorilla. He's like, but it was bigger than a gorilla and it kind of had a different face than a gorilla, but it was, he's like, I think maybe a gorilla's loose. And I was like, oh, there's no grillas out here, man.

They'd never survive the, it never survived out here. I'd never had experience. But, I mean, like I said, even now, when we're driving up, if I'm not driving, I'm looking out the window from side to side, just looking for. Majority it's, we have problems with deer or elk around now in front of us, but always just looking, thinking, well, maybe if I get that glimpse, but sometimes we're like, I think, well, if I got a glimpse, it could be a stump. It, you know.

Right. And I was just like, don't want to jump to conclusions until I definitely, but I know, I know, I know what we heard. There is no doubt in my mind that. Yeah, it's kind of like that when you see one too. You'll never go, well, I think it might have been a stump or you think, I mean, when you get a good look at one, you realize really quick what you're looking at. Kind of like when you heard that, you realize really quick, that's nothing you've ever heard before. And it's kind of the same way when you see one.

It is, yeah. Then at night, you know, put on my cell phone, you know, listen to your guys' site, which I've only been doing for like 30 days. But it's been pretty interesting. You guys do a good job. We appreciate it very much. All right. Well, thank you very much for listening. I appreciate it.

Yeah, thank you, Rob. All right. Well, you guys have good evening. It was good. Yeah, I thought it was good. You know, the hard part about encounters like that is unless you've heard it, you really have no, it just sounds like, well, you heard something. But unless you know what he's actually heard, because that roar and that scream I've heard before is when he says it shakes your inside,

it really does shake your insides, man. It's like nothing else out there. There's such a range of noises. I mean, people don't understand, you know, when you're in a relatively close proximity with these things, whether it's a roar or a scream or some other vocalization, the volume alone, it does. It kind of shakes you.

Yeah, I remember you seeing that. I mean, many people say that. They feel it as much as they hear it. So we keep hearing that. It's nice. And I can vouch. I've never heard a scream like that. You know, we've heard the whoops.

And I've heard those strange whoops in Washington State with U.S., but I can't vouch for screams. There's an old recording, and the way he described that one, I can picture in my mind what that one sounds like, but I can't remember where it was from. I'm going to have to do a little research and see if I can't track that one down. But I know there's a recording of what he described, almost exactly. Please visit us at Sasquatch Chronicles.com for exclusive shows, uncut audio extras, and much more.

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