Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1008 The Eyes

Episode Date: November 19, 2023

Tonight we will be speaking to Roland. Roland said "In 1996 I was 16 years old and was a brat. My uncle took me with him. He was a truck driver. He took me under his wing and was the closest thing I had to a father. One night we had this creature cross right in front of us. It took up the whole windshield. I have never seen my uncle scared of anything, ever but he was terrified.   We will also be speaking to Dan. Dan is from New Hampshire. Dan said "For the last 13 years we have had a lot of strange things that have happened. We have a pond on the property and one night I was fishing and this huge rocks were thrown near me. We also caught sight of something with these fiery reddish eyes."  

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forward.

I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. What are you reporting? Jesus Christ, you bet. See you. Hello. Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That's son of a bitch is about six foot nine.

I don't know. Do you see a nail, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-uh. To Avery from Texas and you're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Congratulations on a thousand episodes. We're so proud of you, Mr. West. Welcome to the show, everyone.

Thanks for being here tonight. Kind of forgive my voice. I'm still fighting this never-ending cold or flu or whatever it is, hybrid disease. He's been kicking my butt. But I appreciate you guys being here, and I am feeling a lot better than I was last week. Tonight we'll be chatting with Roland. And back in 1996, he was with his uncle.

His uncle was a truck driver, and he was trying to keep rolling on the straight and narrow, had him come working the truck with them. And they had this experience with this very large creature, took up the whole windshield as it crossed in front of the semi. And so Roland will go into that tonight. We're also going to be chatting with Dan. And Dan comes to us from New Hampshire. And he's had a lot of really bizarre things happen on his property.

And it's been going on for about the last 13 years. And Dan was telling me it's random. Once, you know, one year this will happen, then two years later, this will happen. So he'll be sharing that with us tonight. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows.

Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Roland to the show. Roland, thanks for coming on. No problem. Yeah, take me back to 1996. and this happened in Maine, kind of walked me into this whole encounter that you and your uncle had. At the time, I was a kid with an attitude,

you know, 16, 17 years old and wanted to quit school. So his idea was, you know, you want to be stupid. Well, you're coming in a truck with me at night and, you know, you're not sleeping. You're going to find out what it's like to have a job. So that's how I spent my time in this truck going with him everywhere. The night it happened, I was kind of excited for the trip because nature nut. I love mountains.

We were supposed to be going close to a place in Maine called Mount Katahdin. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, but as we were coming down out of the gully, for whatever reason I don't, this I can't explain it's usually when I'm driving with them. My eyes are always out the front windshield, just looking.

For whatever reason my head turned towards him, but it wasn't to look at him. It was, for whatever reason, my eyes went automatically out his window. I guess I should say that this was a full

moon lit, a night, I mean, it was a really bright moon. So you could see pretty well everything. Out of the corner, there was a little marshy area, kind of cut in the road, cut through it. On my side, there was trees, just normal, but on the inside was that marsh. And from out of that marsh, I seen this shadow. You know, I'm calling it a shadow, but it wasn't really a shadow, because shadows just... you can still make out what's around it, what's beyond it.

But it had the shape of a person. I can say that for sure, because this is the only time that I've actually seen the entire silhouette of it below the waist. And where it was heading, it was heading towards a truck. Like you could tell it was running towards it, but you couldn't actually see it running. Like it was a weird movement because it was graceful, but not.

How would you describe it? It's kind of hard to describe it. It wouldn't run like a normal person. You know, you can tell the difference. So at first I thought I was just seeing things because when you're, you know, two or three o'clock in the morning, sometimes do see stuff. Any trucker will tell you that. But where I found out that I wasn't seeing things was when I noticed it got towards the front of this truck,

my uncle slammed on his brakes. And I don't mean a little bit as in to slow down for something. You know, and then keep going. It was a hurt that he locked the air brakes. Tires squealing everything. I mean, it only took seconds for the whole thing to happen, but it kind of felt like time just slowed down a little bit. Like I watched it come from his window,

hit the front of the truck, in a matter of, you know, what felt like seconds. But, you know, after you hit the brakes, this thing came out in front of the truck. You know, it dimmed the lights in the truck. I noticed that. When it got to my side of the truck, I lost track of it. Because, of course, he hit the brakes, I was heading for the dash, you know, bracing myself. I kept my eye on it until it got in front of me.

And then for whatever reason, I panicked. Not just because of what I was seeing, but because it's like something was telling me to get away from the door. I remember looking at the door and I remember scooching myself as close to my uncle as I could. That's just, I don't know why I reacted that way, but the thing was heading out in front of the truck, I had no reason to react to think that that was going to open my door. As bizarre as that sounds, that's what happened, I guess. after that he hit the brakes there was no thud

there was no nothing hit the truck he hit the gas straightened the truck back out got back on our side of the road because we went over into the next lane and it was Bobby about the only time

that I've seen that man not slowed down for a railroad track I don't think an Abrams tank would have stopped this guy after that he was gone he wanted to get us far away from that place as he could

Let me ask you, Roland. So I understand what happened. You see this thing. You're in the passenger seat of the semi. You look over, see something. Your uncle keeps driving. Does it catch up with you guys and then cross in front of the semi? When we hit the bottom of the hill, I don't think we passed it.

I think we got it out of the woods when we got down this grade. Because when I looked over, it was coming out of the woods. and I was heading for our truck, which doesn't make sense to me, but, you know, it is what it is. That's when it caught up to the truck and moved out in front of us. I just seen the dark silhouette. Like, that was all I could see of it. Later on, I would get what he's seen, but I'll get to that. From what I seen, you could tell it had a definite shape.

You know, you could see the head, but it was like I was looking at nothing. but a shadow. Like I didn't see features to it. I didn't see eyes. I didn't see, you know, hair per se. But you could tell it had a definite shape to it. Yeah, and from reading your email, you were saying you're a pretty short guy. And I can see, you know, being 16, not, you know, seeing kind of more or less like a black shadow.

Your uncle, though, being in the driver's seat, were crossed in front of him. I would imagine he had a better look at it. What did he say he saw? About 10 years, like he wasn't the kind to talk about what happened very often. There was only about two times that it was ever brought up. And probably only about once where he really got into what he's seen. But what he said he's seen was this thing turned his head and looked at him when it was in the front of the truck. He wasn't very descriptive of it because I don't think he really, you know, maybe it was trauma.

I don't know, but he didn't spend too much time talking about it. What he said he's seen was cold black eyes, staring at him. And he said it had gray-toned skin. But that was all he really ever gave me. I don't know how to really describe what he's seen because, you know, I can't go ask him now because he passed on a couple years ago. But it was the part that always bugged me was he said this thing had cold, dark eyes. And it was, to me, that would mean if you notice these eyes, they were darker than the shadow that eyes seemed.

So for them to stick out, that is. Yeah, I'm sorry to hear about his passing. You have my condolences for sure, man. Yeah, he was probably, you know, for better or worse, the closest thing I had to a father. So I'm definitely not going to, you know, make up a story to disrespect the guy like that. but it terrified him. I guess the best way I can describe it is, you know, maybe 10 years later,

I was again in the truck with him. I was out in Fort McMurray, Alberta at the time. And he took me again in the truck. You know, same thing, loading wood. Well, he had a slight grin on his face one night when we pulled in next to the loader. And he was like, don't get out of the truck. whatever you do, don't get out of the truck.

I don't care what happens. Usually when my uncle tells me something, I do it. I don't question him. It's just the way things were. He radioed to the loader operator and, you know, he said light them up. And when the loader operator brought up his lights towards the outline of the woods, all these eyes started, you know, flashing out, you know, eyes shine everywhere. Well, it turns out these were wolves.

He turned to me, and this was when he was describing to me about all the, about what he's seen that night. What's, you know, now? Because these wolves were massive. I mean, these weren't your house dog size, you know, wolves. These were, these things would eat your life, you know, not think twice about it. But he looked at me and he kind of smirked, but not in a way. way of, ha ha, I got you scared. He was like, this doesn't scare me as bad as that thing we've seen in Maine.

Like, it took a lot to get my uncle scared. Yeah, you know nothing good is coming when he see that many wolves looking at you. I want to ask you, when it crossed in front of the semi, how tall do you think it was? Okay, at the time, I was a kid. So, I mean, I was, I'm 5'4 now, short. So then I'm maybe 5 feet then, and my job was to clean this truck rigorously. Like, that was part of my punishment for not wanting to finish school. I greased this thing.

I washed it, you know, the emerald, the whole nine years. From my height, I still had to use the foothole and the grill to get up to this hood, to pull it down to clean it. So that hood had to be at least six feet, at least. This thing blocked out that windshield. And if anybody that knows these trucks, it was an international, just a single cab international. That windshield is at least two feet plus. And the head of this thing would have been at the top of that windshield from where I was sitting.

Again, you take into account that I was short and looked at. of this window could have been bigger, could have been a little bit smaller. I don't know, but this thing was massive. Yeah, that thing must have been massive, especially, you know, being a little bit above the windshield. Those semi set up pretty high. I could see why your uncle slammed on the brakes. I mean, it's hard to total a semi, but I think it might have totaled the semi.

Oh, there was one of the things he would have said later was this thing looked at him like it was telling him that it could have totally trashed that truck if it wanted to. And maybe that's what had them so shook up because, you know, when you're driving in those trucks, you get enough years in there, you're, you know, you're feeling pretty safe. But I don't think he'd come out of that night feeling pretty safe anymore. Like, it was a totally different person that I was driving with from there on to that mill that night. You know, it shook him up so bad, Wes.

usually when he gets to a mill, you know, you got to go two or three hours before he has to go in and unload the truck. Usually I'd have to stay in the scale house. Well, his usual routine is he would light up a cigarette and smoke it, and then he would put his head down on the steering wheel and catch a little bit of shot. You don't really sleep in a truck. I just call it being dead away, right? But that night when we got to the mill, he didn't have that cigarette. He completely hit the steering wheel like there was no. life in him at all.

Like, I think it wore him out that bad. And neither of us spoke to each other that whole time. It's like both of us were, you know, mentally stuck in a place of what the heck was this? When he did pick up his head that night, he did look over at me. And he said, Roley, tell me I'm not the only one that's seen that. Obviously, I knew what he was talking about. but all I could say to him was, no, you're not the only one that's seen it.

But I couldn't tell them what I seen. It's like my mind was totally preoccupied. I was trying to keep myself together that night. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's no words for it. And you know, when you're in that moment, a lot of eyewitnesses go through this Ralee where there'll be two people together,

they'll have an encounter, and then after the encounter, it's like silence. They don't talk. I think it's, you know, we're all trying to come back to reality of, God, what did I just see? Did I just have a stroke? And, you know, your uncle was looking for a confirmation for sure that he wasn't losing it. You'll hear a Sasquatch doing this a lot. And I've never quite been able to figure out why.

Like, nothing makes sense where they'll wait and then cross right in front of a car as it's going across the road. and a semi of all things. You think Sasquatch would be smarter enough to realize it's probably going to lose that battle. I mean, a semi is like, you know, a train on tracks coming at you. I mean, it's not going to stop. When I hear that behavior, sometimes I think Sasquatch is dumb. But, you know, I see people do it on the highway all the time. They'll get in front of these semis and hit their brakes and their little electric cars.

And I'm like, you're going to lose that battle if that semi can't stop. It's really weird behavior, though, when you hear Sasquatch do it, if it would have waited like five seconds and let you guys go by and then cross, you guys probably would have never seen it. What do you make of that behavior? I don't know. Like to me, that makes absolutely no sense how it could even catch up to this truck, let alone run in front of it as close as it was without it getting hurt or our truck totally demolished.

If that had been anything else, a deer, a bear, a moose, whatever, like the moose would have got it, the bear would have got it, the deer would have got it. You know, there was no way that they could have been that close and avoided getting hit by this truck. Do you think the one that you saw was the same one that crossed in front of the truck? What I mean by that is, do you think there was more than one? my eyes didn't leave this thing from the time that I picked it up looking out my uncle's window to the time that it got in front of me in front of this truck. Like I just couldn't take my eyes off of it. Even when I was being thrown at the front of this truck trying to grab onto the cab, my head never turned away from this thing, which, you think it would have, but it didn't. you know, I had it in my sights until it got directly in front of me.

This was by far the strangest things I've ever seen, you know, and obviously the strangest things he's ever seen. He wasn't exactly the type of person to believe in any of this stuff, you know, and part of me thinks that's why it shook him so bad and why he never wanted to talk about it. Because, you know, my uncle was, you know, man, man. You know, he just didn't ever show that side of him. that would be, you know, vulnerable like that.

Yeah, and I get it, man. I mean, it's so hard to process what you're seeing. You know, a lot of times people say that, like, my brain reset. It's so hard to, like, figure out what you're looking at. I'm glad you and your uncle had this moment in time, though. I want to ask you, when you were looking at it, you know, I realize it's in the windshield. It was it just kind of this big, huge blobby shape in the windshield? Or was there any details?

Were you able to see the arms or anything that stood out to you? The area that it was coming out of, it was a swampy kind of area. So there was grass there. But I don't think this grass was that very tall. The next morning when we came by that place again, it was daylight, obviously. We didn't see any like deer paths or, you know, animal trails like you usually would at places like that. Like there was no disturbance to it at all.

Like if this thing had that route as a routine, you know, place that it would come out of, there was nothing there. To visually remember what I seen coming at us from his side door, I probably would have only seen that, given my size in that truck, you know, where I was. I probably only seen it from just, below the waist up. And to me, I didn't really notice any movement in the arms or anything.

That's why I'm saying it was so weird, because it was like it was graceful, almost like it was floating. You can usually tell a gate by a gate of anything. Like, you can tell there's movement there, but this thing was just floating. Yeah, a lot of eyewitnesses described that motion, that floating motion. We were just talking about that on last night's show with Jimmy from. Kentucky, he talked about that. But many eyewitnesses described that locomotion. You know, I ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is? And I'm curious, Roland, what's kind of your take?

What do you think these creatures are? Taking out the craziness and the unbelievability of what I've seen that night, if I had to pick a guess as to what they were, you know what? I don't think people or even aware of just how much of our surroundings that we don't even know about. So just to guess, just something we haven't discovered yet. Or maybe not discovered, but discovered by the right people yet. You know, there's thousands of eyewitnesses to it, but I don't think it's the right people that are witnessing it. Yeah, or maybe they have and they're not talking. It's a good point you bring up, though, for sure.

And it's so hard to know what these things are because I could tell you what I want it to be, what I would like it to be. But I don't think it's any of those things. And it's one of those questions where there really is no wrong answer because no one knows. And, you know, like I said, your uncle's gone now. He sounded like a great man. And, you know, taking care of you, making charge. you're on the path and doing the right thing. And he sounds like a good man.

God rest his soul. And even though it wasn't a happy moment, you know, you have this moment in time with them. And I appreciate you coming on and sharing it with us, man. Yeah, I mean, in a weird way, I mean, I never got to say goodbye to my uncle. I mean, it was during, you know what. And unfortunately, I didn't get to go in to see him to say my good. goodbye. So, you know, maybe in a weird kind of way, this is this, you know, a way I can actually say my goodbye. Yeah, I hear you. And like I said, you guys will always have this moment. And, you know, I really

appreciate you coming on, brother. I really enjoyed chatting with you. All right. Thank you, Wes. On last night's show, I interviewed Jimmy from Kentucky. And after the show, you know, we were kind of BSing and just talking. And he was telling me. about this home he grew up in and how it was haunted. And not only did he experience things, but his whole family did. And I was like, I know it's the Big Foosh Show, man, but will you please come back and share this with the audience. And he has agreed to come back.

If you missed it, here is kind of a clip of his encounter, probably one of the more compelling encounters I've heard in a while. So when I got down, I was easing my way down on that finger ridge. work my way down to, I was roughly probably about 60, maybe 70 yards from the top of the ridge. And I kept hearing something to the right, but it's like a hundred to 150 yards away on that ridge to the right that went after and turned turn. And I had my grunt call. I hit my grunt.

Man, I hit them antlers and stuff beating on them. And I heard it again. And I thought, what in the world? Well, that's a big old deer over. And I hit my grunt call again, Wes. and when I went to hit them antlers again, the god-offless thing run off this mountain. I'm not lying to you.

It's out like an elephant running through the woods. This thing's come down through her, and the foliage is so thick that I can't really see nothing, but you can see the stuff moving. And in back of my mind, I'm thinking, oh, my God, I'm about to kill the world's biggest buck. You know, 22-year-old kid, this thing comes down through there,

tearing up hail, comes down and comes up about a third away on the other side. And I'm standing there and I'm thinking, oh my God, this thing's getting ready to step out. I would say maybe a couple minutes went by. And then it's hard to talk about. And then at my 10 o'clock position at 30 yards away, there was a beech tree about 36 to 40 inches in diameter. And I turned around. this thing come out from behind that tree.

And people don't understand until you're staring, staring something like this in the face, but this thing is black. It's huge, you know, it comes out from behind that tree. And in my mind, I'm trying to process, and we've locked eyes. And I have never, ever, ever in my life, been so scared of because when this thing come out from behind, it didn't peek around. It come all the way around,

but kept its right hand on that tree. This thing was massive. Hell, its shoulders, God, they were four foot wide, didn't have a conical head. This thing looked like somebody cut his neck off and shoved its head and its shoulder blades. And this thing is standing there.

And we're locked eyes. I ain't moving. I'm shaking like, leaf, but I'm cammoed up, and this thing's down below me, and this is what I always try to figure out. When this thing come out behind, he was looking straight at me, but my face was painted. I had a mask and everything on gloves. I mean, I'm camoed out. But this thing when it come out, it had the strangest look on its face. It was so confused. You know, you can, you can read a person's face when they're just so confused. They don't know what's going on. Well, that's what

this thing was doing. But I'm only 30 yards away from it. And this thing is looking at me in back of my mind, I'm thinking, oh my God, this is a devil. I don't know what the hell this is. Next up on the show I want to welcome Dan. Dan, thanks for coming on. You're absolutely welcome. Thank you for having me. I'm thrilled to be here. Yeah, I really appreciate you being here. And I know you do a lot of work with kids. Do you want to talk about what you do for work? If not, I'll cut it out. I actually am a professional skateboard instructor. I own a company called Evolution Skateboard Academy,

and we travel all of New Hampshire going from skate park to skate park, teaching people how to skateboard. I used to be pro in the 90s, and I'm just very fortunate to be able to be part of the skateboard industry. And yeah, we go for all over New Hampshire to Massachusetts, and that's my shameless plug. Yeah, that sounds like a fun job. And I know when we were talking the other day, you had mentioned you kind of helped kids do as well.

Is that through the skateboarding? Yeah. I mean, so I'm a survivor of child abuse. And my skateboard took me away from my abuser to give the gift of skateboarding and helping kids maybe have that experience to be able to get away. That I don't even know about is like what we're all about. And yeah, man, it's just a very special, important thing to me. And it's an experience every lesson. And, you know, here we are talking about an experience that maybe not so many people can identify with.

But, you know, maybe there's a listener out there in New Hampshire that can identify with what I just told you. So thanks for asking me, man. I never expected it to go this way. But I appreciate it. I'm comfortable telling you. Yeah, I know that's very personal and obviously if you wanted me to take it out of the show, I would. But it's very powerful because, you know, in those situations, as you grow older, you have every right to become a monster. I don't know if you have every right, but most people become a monster and the fact that you took something so terrible and turned it into something positive.

I admire that a lot. If people go out there, go check out Evolution Skateboard Academy on Instagram. Dan, if you would, I know that you had a lot of weird things going on on your property out there in New Hampshire. Kind of start from the beginning. And we're going back about 13 years. What were you doing on this property? And tell me about what happened. Absolutely.

So it's in the town of Gilmington, New Hampshire, which is what was supposed to. to be the original capital of New Hampshire, but because it's dead center of the state. It's about 25 minutes outside of Lake Winnipeasaki. And me and my daughter's mother had gotten in a fight one night. We were arguing about something. And Rose was probably three or four at this time. And I didn't want to argue with mom and our friend,

who's actually considered an uncle, really, you know. And I didn't want to argue. like it was just something dumb i don't really remember what it was but i didn't want to argue and i know it was like late or midsummer it was like eight o'clock or something like that and the sun was just starting to go down like you know what i'm just going to go fishing so i i grabbed my gear i walked out the door and i walked to this pond which is behind a cemetery and walking in i didn't really think anything and when i got there i put my i put down my cooler i put down my fishing box and um my rod and i started gearing up putting on a lure and mind you it's just about dusk the sun's about to go down you know

within the next five minutes and as i'm getting ready i'm starting a small fire i crack a beer and ready to take my first cast all of a sudden i just got that feeling again then the hair stood up on the back of my neck and everything went super quiet like there was no bugs chirping no no birds no no no no nothing, no waves, no, not like, ponds have waves, but like, there was just no sound. And for some reason, I thought, you know, maybe I had disturbed some teenage kids, like trying to have a party in the woods, because I remember it being a weekend. So I was like, hey, guys, come out. It's all right. I'm not the cops. You know, come hang out, whatever. And again, silence. And as I bend over to try to start this little small fire I want to make, I hear on my right hand, you know, I hear on my right

hand side, I can only describe it as like a boulder the size of at least a bowling ball coming straight down into the water where it breaks the surface. And when the water goes back in around whatever the object was, it goes plunk, right? That deep like punk sound that water makes when you break over it. It wasn't like a beaver tail or, you know, dive in or something like that. This was a hard, heavy object that fell from the sky, basically. Like a softball lob underhand, straight up in the sky, plunk on my right. And when I turned my head to the right to see what it was,

or try to identify what was going on, as soon as I turned my head right, I hear plunk on my left. And that's all I needed to hear. I packed up all of my stuff as fast as I could. I put out the little small fire I grab everything and I start walking my butt back down that access trail and as I'm walking down that access trail

I'm like you know what she's playing a joke on me with Uncle Jay they're trying to teach me a lesson they're trying to like make me scared because maybe I was being a jerk maybe she was trying to say sorry funny like whatever the case may be I'm like those jerks you know

so I'm like and they were going to probably be in a car and I was on foot because it's really, really close to where I used to live. I figured that they'd get back before me and I was basically doing like that mom walk run thing. Just like power walking and I get there. Before I went in the house, I want to look in the living windows to see if they're like laughing or like just something like seeing how they how the mood was. Well, when I look in those windows, she's hardcore studying on her laptop for for, for, for, for, for college and he's involved in some online game it was clear that they did not leave the house

furthermore the children were in bed and i just went what and the world just happened and i went into that house and i was like oh my god you got to listen to me like oh my god and they're looking at me like i'm crazy so i told them the story i just told you and they're just like yeah dan whatever That was it for two years until round number two. So it's Valentine's Day and me and my daughter's mother were outside in our front yard having a fire. A big, pretty big one, nothing gnarly, but pretty big. So we used to have this big wood box where we just store our trash and cardboard and all this other stuff in. And the fire was kind of dying down.

She's like, oh, I'll go into the box, you go upstairs into the wood shop and grab all your scraps. I'm like, all right, cool. So I go inside and I'm starting to gather up stuff and I hear clap her dropping the lid on top of the wood box, this big loud wood on wood clap. And it was like, I'm in the house. And I heard the clap. And I'm like, all right. And I'm gathering my stuff. And then out of the clear blue, she comes running up these stairs.

Dan, Dan, Dan, you got to come here. This Dan, Dan, Dan, I've never heard anything like this. You've got to come here. You got to come here. Hurry, hurry, hurry. And she's lived there her entire life. She's like her parents' house where was about, I don't know, 50 yards away from the house that I was living in, which was her great aunts.

And she's like, and at the time she's probably 26 or 7 years old. And she, I mean, she knows the sounds of where she grew up. Like she can tell you what a fish of cat sounds like or a bear, coyote, whatever, owl, whatever it is. And she's like, you gotta come here, she's got to go. She's freaking out. And she's not the type of girl to freak out like this. And she's also not the skinniest girl in the world. Sorry, but like she doesn't move fast at all.

But she was moving fast. And I get down the stairs. I open the door. And as soon as I opened the door, the last sound I heard was it's like, I can't mimic it because I'm not this kind of primate, but it was kind of like this deep, whoop, sound, but it also had a high pitch on the back side of the noise. I wish I could mimic it.

It was like, which doesn't do it any justice. The sound sounded primate, but it wasn't like any primate I have ever heard, including on any documentary or Jane Goodall or any of them, you know, or any of them, you know. But, um, and I just looked at her and she's like, oh my God. in that moment she knew when I told her was real to be able to witness the sound

for even just a split second was so killer it was so rad but she like really heard it like really heard it and I wish I had been out there but it was the clap of the box that triggered the noise I believe anyways

and it was just really cool and nothing else happened again for a couple of years But afterwards, the next morning, she calls her mom or sees her mom next door and tells her about everything. Like her mom knew about my story down at the pond, but she calls her mom and she's like, she's like, mom, you'll never believe what happened. And then mom fesses up for the first time since like the 50s. She's like, yeah, I've heard that noise every couple of years for my entire life. And she's never, this woman has never left the town.

Like she is a full on townie. And she was like, I just never could tell you a dad because he wouldn't believe me. I could never tell you because it would just be weird and random. So now her mom is starting to spill all these sounds and things that she's encountered. And I don't really know the full story of that, but her mom kind of verified to my kids' mom that like, yeah, you know, like I've heard it before. I just never said nothing. So now my daughter's mother's looking at me like, what is going on? And I'm like, I told you, I told you.

Fast forward again, another couple of years or three years to round number three. So round number three goes like this. And this is a short one. So the next time this went down, everybody who knows me or her or friends of friends know these two stories. It's like folklore almost. You know, like people would come over to the house and be like, damn, tell me the story. And, you know, like, and I would tell the story.

And one day, again, we're having a big fire in our front yard because you can do that in New Hampshire. You know, there's like snow on the ground and people are hanging out. You know, it's not really a party, but we have friends over. And I'm having a conversation with one of my buddies. He's looking one way and I'm looking the other. But I'm looking in a direction that goes across the street from the house. into a big field, a rock wall, and then just a line of woods.

And all of a sudden, I see this eyeball reflecting in the light of the fire. And I'm like, oh, my God, look, dude, there it is. And he turns around and he sees what I see, which is a big, gigantic eyeball, looking right at where we are. It's not a moose. It's not a bear. I've never seen anything that's not a dog or a cat I've never seen any thing reflect light like this

it was bright fire red like the eye like the eye looked bright fire red it was almost like a reflection you could almost see the fire in its eye it was strange but it's also just halfway outside of this big oak that you can make out with the fire you can see the oak tree

and it's standing dead still And you can tell it's also not like a side eyeball. You can tell it's not a moose, which is, you know, around, but they're not common. And the sure is hell not standing still when they're in the area. It just stood there. And he's like going, oh, my God. And he's trying to run to the house because he sees what I see.

Like he's freaking out. I'm like, dude, stop, look, look. And he turns his head and he sees it again. And that was it. Like he broke my grasp. He ran into my house as fast. I mean, dude, this guy might have been. Like, we should call him Flash.

Like, this dude ran, and I mean ran into my house, freaking out. And when I turned back to look, it was gone. And when it was gone, there wasn't a sound. There wasn't like a stick breaking. There wasn't a ruffling in the woods like a moose. There was, I mean, there wasn't any breath of snoring or nothing. I mean, nothing. But I'm telling you, as sure as I am talking to you,

from where I was standing, my viewpoint was probably 50 yards max, but probably less. It had, yeah, probably less. But like I said, it was close enough to see the reflection of the fire. You can make out the silhouette of the tree. And when it was gone, it was gone. I mean, it literally almost seemingly like vanish. Because if there was, if there was anything else, it would have, you would have heard something. I mean, it was woods. It was thick forest, woods. You would have like sticks

breaking or ruffling of the trees or movement of the trees or something. It was quiet. That's all it was. And that was it. And then it disappeared. And that was the last time I saw him. I know from talking to you off the air, Dan, there's weird things that happen, but it's every couple of years. And that pond where the boulders were thrown at you is about 250 yards from your home in hearing weird vocalizations over the years, but now you're seeing something. I mean, is it kind of an outline? Is that what you're looking at? And if you would, what was weird about the eyes? I mean, what kind of stood out to you about them? It's hard to explain. Have you ever, like, stood at a wall? And first of all, it was the height

of the eyeball. I knew what the area looked like. I knew it like the topography. Is that the where topography, yeah, looked like I knew the elevation of the land. I knew how tall that rock wall was that was in front of the tree line. And I could tell by the height that it was, that was something different, for lack of a better term. But furthermore, it was the way it stared. It was a direct kind of like standing behind the corner of a wall halfway like Jason style from Nightmare, not a nightmare, but Friday the 13th, kind of just like,

standing there half person. Half of it was behind the tree. Half of it was not. And it was just like the stare. And like I remember seeing the convex of the retina or the eyeball rather. And just like the color how it refracted the light, which was really strange. Because I've seen a dog refract light or a cat or a fox or, you know, whatever it is, whatever animal.

Living out there is like you see a lot, man. there's a lot of animals out there. This was something that I cannot explain. It is absolutely, I mean, I could still see it in my mind, man. Like, I can still visually see it. The eyeball was like, I don't want to use the word that. Like it popped out because it didn't, but it was just really large. And it took a really gradual convex turn.

And I swear to you, it was, I mean, mean, this is an exaggeration, but it looked like the size of like a baseball. It was gigantic. But in all reality, it was probably more like just under the size of a golf ball. It was, I mean, it was just, I mean, he freaked out. This kid, this kid hunts. He's from the same area. You know, he rides snowmobiles.

He's in the woods. He fishes. He knows the animals around the area, too. And when he saw this, I mean, he lost his mind. He lost his mind. You wouldn't even look because, you know, the stories we told were solid. And, you know, my kids' mom, she's not one to, like, tell one of these kinds of stories. She's not one to be like, you'll never guess what.

Like, Dan's stories kind of add in up here. And once she had my back, everybody was kind of like, oh, well, that's weird. And when he saw this, like, I'll never see it again. I hope I do, but I'll never see it again. It's just one of those images that you can't get out of your mind. And I hate to use this analogy, but it burned into my mind as hardcore as like watching a plane hit one of the towers. Like that's how ingrained this visual was to me. God bless all the people who lost anybody on 9-11, but like that's how intense.

this visual was. How far up was this thing peaking around looking at you guys? I would say it was at least seven feet tall, but it could have been as tall as like seven, six. And I could actually go get a measurement. I remember exactly on the tree where it was. I could, I mean, I could literally pinpoint. I can take a tape measure, go out there and go, yep, right here.

And like, I could literally show it to you. I know exactly where it was. never forget it. And so I would say my best guess would be seven foot to seven six. Yeah, that's pretty high up. And you had mentioned the fiery red color. And I know that you guys live kind of out in the middle of nowhere. And you're used to seeing many different animals that probably your average person doesn't see. So you've seen eyes shine. But did you get the impression those eyes were glowing? Ooh. Huh. That's a hell of a good question, man. I never even considered the fact that I might be glowing.

I don't know. I suppose it could have been. I just always put it on the fire shine. But honestly, now that you say that, it kind of makes me wonder because the fire was pretty far away, but it was also pretty big. So I don't know, man. I mean, dude, that's a hell of a question. you just kind of rock my world. I never considered that they could have been, but I can't say with like definite absolute that they were. I just, I don't know. That's how a good question, man.

Jesus Christ. Why did I never even think of that? Have you heard of people like saying that the eyes glow? Yeah, it gets mentioned from time to time. When I very first got into this, Dan, uh, people would say that and I would, they would say the eyes were glowing. and I'm like, ah, these people are all wrong.

They're obviously seeing eyes shine. And, you know, I was Mr. No at all, but life kind of humbles you at times. And I had a hunter on one time, and this guy had been hunting longer than I've been on the planet. And I'd ask him to that question, you know, was it eye shine? He was like, no, these eyes were glowing. But it doesn't happen all the time. What I remember was, is that the bottom of the eyes and up to the right and left, depending on how you look at it, like the right eye, the left eye,

started with a real deep, dark, like maroon, almost black, but you can see the red. And then it curved up the side of the eye, like the die ball. And then from the bottom up, it blended from, like, the natural colors, I blended from like a really dark maroon to like a bright red line, then orange. And then all of a sudden it turned to like a green, a blue. in a yellow somewhere mixed in it on the top.

But you could also identify the center point where the retina would be. It was not that I could see a retina, but you could tell that the colors directed to the center of the eye, if that makes any sense. And because of the colors that I saw in the eye, I always associated it with the color of a fire. But they were bright, too. So, I mean,

geez man I mean maybe you know maybe they were glowing I never considered it I just never I just never thought of it that way so yeah and I don't want to like implant that you know into no no no and you're not you're definitely not you're just giving me a different perspective of what I saw and like knowing how far away that fire was but also knowing how big it was it's not It's not totally impossible that the shine wouldn't get it. However, the brightness and the clarity kind of puts into question, how is that possible that that fire was able to completely identify that eyeball? Like, it was weird, like, from the right to the left, it was all this.

How old are you? Do you know what the Thundercats are? Yeah, of course. All right. So, you know Lionel's sword? And when he goes, thunder, thunder, and he puts his eye in the middle of the sword. And it kind of has like the, whatever that design is to the right and to the left of the eye. That's how it blended on the eyeball.

It was like this, on the right side, it went one way. On the left side, I went the other. And it was, which now is kind of weird that the Thundercats did that. But it was like this weird, I don't know, man. If you looked at, if you look at the Thundercat sword, it wasn't exactly. exactly like that, but it was kind of like a finer pattern of what that is. I can't explain it. Google Thundercast Sword guys, and you'll figure, then you'll see what I mean.

And then it's just blended from the bottom up from oranges and reds and then turned to bright blue. So like sky blue, green, aqua, yellow, and then kind of faded into the top of the eye. It doesn't haunt me, but it's just one of those things that I just never will forget. Yeah, I hear you, man. And I know, you know, on this property every couple of years again, there's weird things that are going on. It's strange that in a lot of encounters, people will say either it came in or it left, and I didn't hear anything. And you would think something that big, you would hear it either come in or leave. But to look back and this thing's gone, have you ever gone and walked around this property during the daytime? just to see if you could figure out what was going on? Yeah, I have. I have. Only broken sticks from the top of like bushes bent over.

I looked for prints. I looked for hair and I went out there for hours. Like one day I went out there. Like I was like Sherlock Holmes, you know, squash detective. And I mean, I looked. I really did. I especially went back the next day after I heard those rocks fall. out of the sky

and I went into I mean I was going through like pricky bushes and like thick woods like just looking for anything just anything that could have explained even like kids or you know screwing around me I looked for anything that would have showed me

what that was I was obsessed with it for like a week and I never found a thing I've never found a print I've never found hair I've never, I've never, I've never, I've never found a thing. It was, it was like, it was like it came out of another dimension and just like vanished again. Yeah, it's frustrating when you can't find evidence of what is going on there, you know, outside of these experiences.

And I wanted to go back to the rock throwing incident at the pond. Again, I know this is close to your home. That behavior of throwing rocks, some people think it's playful. Some people think it's aggressive. When you're sitting there and these boulders are coming your way and you hear two of them hit close by, did you get a feeling like that was aggression? No, sorry. So first of all, yeah, no, it wasn't thrown at me.

Definitely not at me. I can tell you that whatever was on my right and my left, I heard it from equal distance. So let's say it was 20 feet on my right, Plunk. it was straight up and straight down. Maybe it was that. I mean, just didn't make it that far, but I know on my right and my left,

they were equal distances. I know that whatever I heard wasn't like one way far away and one closer. It was like plunk, plunk, plunk, and it was almost that quick. I don't think it was aggression. I don't think it was playful. I think it was like,

hey man, you're bugging me. Like I'm in the middle of something here. Get out. You know, like now's not the time kind of thing. You know, it was just, I don't, I don't even know if it was to scare me off. It was just kind of like, it was almost, it was almost like walking in somebody like, like in the bathroom. You know what I mean?

Like, hey, get out of here kind of thing, you know? That's, at least that's how I took it. But the creepy thing is the feeling I had when the hair raised up on the back of my neck and the feeling of like, get out of here, it was almost like, I don't want to use the word like telekinesis. I don't want to use the word like ESP kind of thing. Like, that's not how it is. But it was like, there was an understanding to, like, the core of, like, the nature of human just get out.

When the bird shut down, when the bug stopped chirping, when the mosquitoes stop biting, when the fish stopped jumping. Like, when everything just stops, there's like, I don't know, man. Like, it's just one of those things they have to be part of in order to understand it. You literally can't put it into it. You just can't. Yeah, you know, when the forest takes a deep breath and everything goes quiet, it's probably a good time to leave. And, you know, I always tell people, listen to your gut. Your gut's usually right.

If it's saying it's time to go, it's time to go. You know, I ask everyone on the show, Dan, what do you think Sasquatch is? And, you know, after all these years of just weird things going on, what do you think that these things are? You know, I think Sasquatch is, man, you know what? know what it is. I don't know. I don't know if I, like, I would love to find what, like I would love to find definitive, I mean, I know it's around, but

I would love to have definitive proof so everybody else can go, you guys aren't crazy. I think that Sasquatch is Sasquatch. Like, what do I think a gorilla is? I think a gorilla is a gorilla. You know, I think a cat's a cat. I think Squatch is squash, man.

Like, if I had to say anything, I would say it's a North Eastern primate that is very, very, very shy, but also wicked curious. I think it's, I think they communicate with each other. I think they bury their dead. That's the reason why we've never found a dead body. I think that they communicate with, with logs and symbols, kind of like what

Neanderthal would do with lines and communication and scratches and rock. I think that they may have some really far descendants with Gigantopithecus, but I mean, who knows? I mean, maybe it is even one that's evolved. I don't know what it is. Yeah, and that was a pretty good answer, Dan. I mean, I'm with you. I don't know what it is, but I can tell you it's there,

and people are running into it. And, you know, I know all of this happened over the last 3rd, 13, 14 years on your property. And, you know, you guys have heard weird vocalizations. You guys have had very strange experiences. And you'll have to let me know if anything else happens on that property. But I really appreciate you coming forward. You know, it's nice to have people come forward from New Hampshire.

I've done a few shows with guests from New Hampshire. But they're generally pretty tough to get on. but I really appreciate your time and I enjoyed chatting with you, Dan. Yeah, man, absolutely, Wes. I appreciate it so much. And check out Dan's Instagram, Evolution Skateboard Academy. He's doing good stuff for the kids. And that's it for tonight, everyone.

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