Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1010 The Giant Wars

Episode Date: November 26, 2023

Gary Wayne is a Christian contrarian who has maintained a lifelong love affair with biblical prophecy, history, and mythology. His extensive study has encompassed the Holy Bible and Gnostic scriptures, The Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita, Gilgamesh and other ancient epics, language etymology, and secret society publications. I had Gary on before and we discussed his research into the Nephilim. He will be returning for a part two. Check out excerpts from The Genesis 6 Conspiracy Part II Here. If you have not read the first book I highly recommend it.

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forward.

I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. What's what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That's son of a bitch is about six years. is about six foot nine, I don't know. Do you see a bouncer? Yes, I'm looking right here.

Uh-uh. My name is Cameron and you are listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you. A little bit of a different show tonight. Normally I interview eyewitnesses that have run into Sasquatch. But tonight we'll be chatting with Gary Wayne.

And several years ago, I interviewed Gary. he wrote a book called the Genesis 6 conspiracy. And, you know, when I would ask people, what do you think Sasquatch is? Nephilim would come up a lot. And even to the day, Nephilim comes up a lot. And so I thought, well, I'll interview Gary and we'll talk about his book and kind of have him walk into what was really going on with these Nephilim. What were they? And it was a very, I got a lot of crap for that show.

but, you know, at the end of the day, it was one of the highest downloaded shows I'd ever done. And I think there's a hidden fascination, even though verbally people will say, well, you know, that's all crap. I think deep down, a lot of people wonder about it. And Gary's book, that first book is like 800 pages. I read it in like a week, and I'm not a reader. I mean, I was so fascinated by it. And the things I really appreciated about the book was he not only gave like, um, scriptural references to what he's talking about.

He would give references outside of the Bible from other sources, which I really, really appreciated because it's not so one-sided. And I loved the conversation I had with Gary. And I think I've loaned that book out three times, never got it back. So I've bought that first book three different times, just so I have my copy. But if you go to Genesis 6th, Conspiracy.com and order his book. I'm telling you, it's well worth the read. And even that first book, I really think an atheist could read the book and walk away with little nuggets of knowledge.

You know, like, what makes someone royal? What makes someone a king? And I guess throughout my life, I never really thought about that. You know, why are they in that position? And he talks about that and many other things in that first book. And I found out he wrote a second book, Genesis 6 Conspiracy Part 2. And I asked him, you know, would you come back on the show and kind of talk about the second book? So I hope you enjoyed the show tonight. I realize it may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I hope you walk away with, you know,

maybe something you didn't know. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Gary to the show. Gary, thanks for coming back on. Well, thank you for inviting me back.

and so happy to be back. I remember the first time that I came on your show, and I've been on a few times. I thought, well, why would a Sasquatch or Bigfoot-centered show want to have me on? And I had not really sort of thought about the idea that there's some crossover connections, and we talked about that, I think, in the first go-around. And so, yeah, and I've, you know, I've been on a lot of shows like this over the years, And what I've also been on is a lot of shows that has nothing to do with sort of the Christian point of view.

It's just about how do your writings connect with our views of prehistory and things like that. So one of the things when you're trying to get to, I think, the truth of the matter and get as close as you can. And when we're talking about prehistory, you're dealing with some obscure times and you don't have sort of the clear history you'd like to have at times. But once you start to get closer, you start to see there's a worldwide history that everybody's talking about that same history, whether it's a monotheist religion or a polytheist religion or what the archaeologists are trying to do, what historians are trying to do, secular's doesn't really matter. It's just a matter of understanding the lens that they're looking through. So, you know, the difference between the book of Genesis and the Greek mythology is the polytheist lens versus the monothea. lens, and they're seeing the same accounts, but from a different lens. Yeah, that's a really good way to put it.

You know, like every culture on the planet has a flood story, and it sounds suspiciously close to Noah that's in the Bible. Obviously, I have different names for people, but the story is very, very similar. I mean, even the Native Americans talk about a flood story or a giant. It seems like every culture has a giant story within the, you know, the story. their history. And like I said there in the beginning, you know, I really enjoyed the first book. I'm not a big reader, but I read it from cover to cover. What made you write a second book? Yeah, it sort of leads out of some of my conclusions from the first book. And so I didn't want to

be redundant, which is why I didn't want to write a sequel. And but, you know, as I did more shows and talk to more people. And I was explaining to people that, you know, there's a common legacy. And it's not just a flood story on every continent. It's a worldwide flood. So this sort of nonsense about, well, what do you think about a local flood? Well, you have to basically throw out, you know, 500 versions of a worldwide flood, which is the common denominator, which has, you know, you've got little people, you've got Sasquatch,

you've got pyramids, you've got giants, you've got gods, you've got the flood story. It's the same story all over the world. So I thought I've connected the dots well enough. But what happened was I forgot to listen to what my audience was saying. And a lot of the audience is Christian. And in Christianity and in churches, they don't teach about prehistory and prophecy. And so you get more pushback from a Christian audience at times than you do from a non-Christian audience when you're talking about prehistory and prophecy. And also, within that, though,

there's Christians who are starving or have a thirst for somebody to do research on the Bible, to tell them everything that's in the Bible about this and go deeper than what I did, because I was coming from a different model here, I was, you know, measuring everything against the Bible and giving some biblical accounts. But there's so much more in there than I had written. about. And I was trying to show those commonalities around the world from not only a prophetic perspective, but a prehistory's perspective and how they're related all around the world. So Christians wanted to know more about what's in the Bible. And to my surprise, nobody has done a deep dive on that. So I started to understand that I could talk to an audience and it's very

sort of Christian sort of centered. But whether or not you are Christian or not, if you want to learn more about giants, you're going to want to read about this book. You're going to read more about demigods and, I'm sorry, demigods are giants, but hybrids, you're going to want to read this book. If you understand pantheons and the angelic order, you're going to want to read this book. So this book is as unique as the first book, but in a different way. And because there's so much information in the annotations or the notes, I didn't do end notes. I did footnotes. And so I have definitions.

I have etymology. I have quotes. I have additional information. And it's all on the same page where the references, you don't have to go digging for it. I mean, it's one thing on like Kindle version, you just sort of look at that. But then if it's a large sort of annotation, you can't see it. So you got to go to the back anyway. So I wanted people to be able to have that information.

So this book is targeted at people who want to know more about what's in the Bible that's been written about before. So it's that unique. And then as I'm doing it, because I believe to understand prophecy, you have to understand prehistory because the context for prophecy is in prehistory. And if you want to understand the full meaning in the context, what it's talking about, you have to understand that. And a lot of the sort of the obscure allegory is defined within the prehistory. prehistory sort of context. So when we're talking, when I'm going through the first parts of the book, I'm highlighting important information not only for arguments that people can have ready made to

talk to the naysayers, because part of it is canceling people and making them feel silly and saying things that they know you won't take the time to try and back up. That's for you. But I will talk about some of those obscure allegories that's talked about, particularly in Revelation, but elsewhere because prophecy is throughout the Bible that you need to know and sort of reference that to the end time. And then when I get into the last two-thirds of the book, I put that chronology down, which is different than other approaches to prophecy because they're all preconceived conclusions. And I talk about that in the book. And it gives you, what it does, it takes away the conflicts, and then you start to see the larger context to the meanings of the words. And you

start to get a better understanding what's coming and what you're going to have to prepare for. So if you're into like prehistory, you're going to get information out of this book and so many tribes of giants that people, when they read the Bible, they don't understand that they're giants. And we talk about how I establish which ones are the giants and I take them back to patriarchs. Yeah, and I want to kind of get into some of this tonight. Again, if you go to Genesis is six conspiracy.com. You can click on the second book and actually read excerpts from each chapter. But, you know, when I very first started reading the Bible, I remember thinking, wow, you know, the Old Testament God is really hardcore. He's a little genocidal, too, and a little bit of a

maniac. I mean, they're going into this land of Canaan, the Israelites, and basically they're wiping everyone off the face of the planet. And, you know, sometimes when you read the, like the New Testament and the Old Testament, it almost seems like two different gods. But when you really look into what was going on then, you know, with the Refaym and you got the Amalekites showing up, you got the Hittites showing up, you got all these weird, all these different tribes showing up of people. And as you read the Old Testament, you get glimpses of giants that were around, David and Goliath. And it wasn't just Goliath was just Goliath was just. some big guy, all his brothers were giants, his family was giants. And you see it time and time

again where they're coming across these different tribes. And when you kind of start to understand the war that was going on, you realize the people aren't what you think they are. And it wasn't genocide like you think it is. But would you talk a little bit about the Covenant Land and the Raffan Wars? I know it's in Section 5. Yeah, and that's one of the major pieces of the context that you kind of need to get straight to understand prehistory and prophecy is you have different kinds of beings that have affected our history. It includes the angels or the gods and it includes their spurious offspring, demigods, giants. And then you've got another hybrid species after the fall. which is a combination of giants and humans.

And I cover all of that off. So when we talk about nephalin, that's the big word that people use from a biblical perspective, but it only shows up three times in the Bible in Hebrew. Shows up in Genesis 6.4, where in the King James version it says, Giant, and that's the Hebrew word nephil, and I am as a male plural. And in other translations, it will say Nephilim. And then shows up two other times in Numbers 1333. In the embellished part of the report of the spies, who Moses had sent in at the time of the Exodus to explore the land of the land of milk and honey, and then they come back and they talk about people taller than them.

And they talk about Anakim, kings, which are Sheshai, Ahiman, and Talmi. And in Numbers 1333, it says the enact are the children of giants, which is the word nephalim. It says that twice. They're not nephalim. But they are giants. And there's a different kind of giant after the flood. And the giants before the flood were larger and then the ones after the flood. So what the terrified scouts are trying to do versus Joshua and Caleb,

They're trying to put fear into Israel by using something even larger and more scarier than what they're going to be up against, which is the nephaline before the flood. But that doesn't mean the anachem aren't giants. And in Deuteronomy 2, you have a list of giants after the flood. You've got the Amim, you've got the Zamuzim, you've got the Avim, the Horim, the lists a few. And it's also got the anachim. And I use the I.m. plural for the giants in the book, in theites and other prefixes for either hybrids or human tribes. Just so there's a delineation and it comes out of Nephilim and Raphaim. So when it says the anachim are giants in Deuteronomy 2, that's the Hebrew word Rafa, which is the singular form of Raphaim.

and so Raphaim is a giant and defined as a giant after the flood. And these are the terrible ones that I also talk about in the new book, but sticking sort of closer to the question is that the Raphaim are a kind of different kind of giant after the flood, not as large. It doesn't mean they're not large, but they're not as large. And Raphaim shows up 25 times in Hebrew and twice as a tribe. So you've got it being used for giants, other tribes of giants, and a specific tribe of giants. And the specific Refaim tribe shows up in Genesis 14 in the War of Giants with the five giant kings coming in to fight the giant kings in the covenant land.

And it also shows up as a tribe in Genesis 15 in the Mighty 10. Most people are familiar maybe with the Mighty 7 at the time of the Exodus. but in the land that God is providing to Abraham at that time, right after the war of giants, the Raphaim are listed as one of those tribes in the Mighty Ten, along with what I call the ancient triple K, the Cadmanine, the Kinim, and the Kenizim. And so you've got a tribe of giants that's not listed in the table of nations, Raphaim. And the Anakim also has a patriarch listed in the book of Joshua. and his name is Arba, just as Hebron was called Curiaath Arba before it was changed to Hebron.

And that's the city of Arba. And so Arba's not listed in the Table of Nations either. And then in the Table of Nations, you have nine tribes that don't have a patriarch. There's 70 patriarchs in Genesis 10 and First Chronicles, but nine of them don't have a patriarch. And those nine are part of the Canaanites tribes. So Canaan is listed, and he has a genealogy from a human. And then he has two sons, heath and sidens. But now you have Amirites.

You have Archites. You have Hivites. You have nine of these patriarchless tribes. That makes no sense. And they're called family. So you take that back to Hebrew, it can mean a family, but it can also mean a different kind or a different species.

And so the reason why they don't have a patriarch in there, it's the same reason Rafa is not in there and Arba is not in there because those are Raffaim. There are no Raffaim patriarchs listed in the table of nations. So it starts to help you understand how giants show up after the flood.

And so what happens is in, let's say, in Euguritic text, which is a perfect parallel for the Old Testament in the time of the Exodus and things like that, is you have the Balim Council ruling from Mount Saffan or Mount Herman. And the Balim are the ruling assembly of gods that Psalms 82 talks about that rule over the 70 nations, both before and after the flood that Deuteronomy 32 talks about, the 70 sons of Adam, the 70 patriarchs of the Table of Nations, and also is counted by the 70 sons of Jacob born in Egypt.

And so you have in this ruling council of the gods in the Euguritic text, you have Beal as the chief god who takes over from the parent god who ruled before the flood named L. Beal is going to produce the Rapi U, RPM as it is an original Semitic. RapiU is it's transliterated to Rapiom, which is the Raphaim, because the H was originally. not pronounced with silent and didn't have that sort of F sound to it. So that's why sometimes you'll see Nephilim pronounced as Nephilim, right? And it would be in the same way, but it has been transliterated down through more modern English into, or modern Hebrew into English as Raphaim.

And they create the Raphaim after the flood. And so you have a definition that comes out of Raphaim as being, and the peoples that are associated with the Refa'em as the giants as being the Aboriginal tribes. So they're created after the flood or they survive the flood. I think they're created just as Zyuritic Tex

would suggest and just as Gilgamesh would be classified as a second incursion, six-generation son of King Luglbanda and the fertility goddess Ninn. And he was like 19 feet tall and seven feet wide, by the way. So he's no, and he's even larger than Ogg and Goliath. And so Ogg would be about 15 feet tall, 14 to 15 feet tall, 5 to 6 feet wide.

And Goliath would have been 11 feet 3 inches, all on a royal cubit because they were all kings. Be a little bit smaller if you used a 18 inch cubit versus 21, but not enough to make that big a difference. So these are two, three times the size of humans after the flood. and the average height the width ratio of a human was three to one versus two to one. So they were wide and stout.

And stout is a word that's used in the Old Testament and Hebrew words that will have stout in their meaning describe these giants. So you have these giants being created after the flood and they're the aboriginal.

So after Babel, after 100 years or so, with the dispersion, all the people with different languages of the 70 nations are going to spread around over the earth and they're going to move in amongst these aboriginals and they're going to start to create more hybrid nations and so before the babel spreading of peoples and the confusion of

the languages it would seem by the connection of the canaanites to the rafaheem is that daughters of canaan reproduced because of the curse of ham where there are going to be slaves, and this was a retort to that prophetic curse, he sends his daughters out to intermarry with the offspring gods after the flood. And it's important if you're going to understand chronology, particularly post-deluvian history

from antediluvian history, that you understand that parent gods, like Kronos versus Zeus and offspring god, Anu versus Anki or Anliol, the offspring gods, the parent god, Beal as the offspring god, they ruled after the flood because the parent gods went to the abyss for the same crimes that the offspring gods are going to start to do like Hercules is a son of Zeus, right? So the Raphaim are the offspring of Beal. And so they're going to

go to the abyss sometime shortly after the flood as well for the same crime. But now you have all of these Raphaim whom are going to be interming. mixing with humans spreading out from Babel. And I think what happens is some daughters of, more daughters of Canaan, or Canaan is going to intermarry with, I should be more likely, this would be the case. Canaan is going to intermarry with a female giant. Saiden will intermarry with a female giant. Heth will intermarry with a female giant.

And then some of their daughters are going to intermarry with Raphaim Patriarchs. So that's how you get hybrid Canaanites. That's how you get hybrid Hittites. That's how you get hybrid Sedonians. And then all these other ones have a Raphaim and Canaanite mother for the eponymously named tribe after the patriarch. And I trace that back. So we get an example of that actually happening that's not in the table of nations, but it starts to answer the question here as to do we have a biblical,

fact to sort of make that speculation. And you have an instance in Genesis 36 where you have Timna, who's the daughter of Seer, goes back to Hebrew satir, rooted in the satir devil goat god, is the patriarch of the Horeem of Edom, not of the Horeem tribe. There's a few different tribes of the Horeem. and that his daughter, Timna, a pure-blood Horim giant. Horim's are Raphaim as Deuteronomy 2 describes them. And she marries Elifaz, son of Esau, brother of Jacob.

And Jacob is the one who stole all of the vows from Esau, whether it's the Mesianic promise, the inheritance, blessing, or the birthright. And he steals them all. And so you have a hybrid race now of humans that has bloodlines back to Jacob, Isaac, Abraham, and you have a hybrid dynasty. And one of the issues with the giants after the flood, and just as you see in the Uyghuritic text,

you see the Raphaim doing fertility rituals to bring Bayal and Astral back. So they're gone by that point. point in time because they're in the abyss. And they're doing that because they want them to create more giants, but they don't. And one of the root word to the, one of the key words understanding giants in the Old Testament is the terrible ones, which is the Erit and the IML plural, just as Eugerate. You have Erit as part of that compounded word. So, and then you have UG, which, you have U.G, which is.

in the book, I'll make the connections. I won't go through all the Hebrew and stuff like that. That's the terrible ones city. And he's going to actually move to Mount Herman to rule over the Amarites after the War of Giants because most of the Rafiene tribe is wiped out from there. And so you have a definition of the terrible ones that has all sorts of descriptions like stout and wide and powerful and strong and all these words, but also has a fertility issue attached to them, childless, infertile. And it's not that they couldn't reproduce with their seed, they couldn't reproduce enough women, which is why the females would start new dynasties that I cover off in the first book, because they're so rare.

And then they also have the ability to carry the gene and the ability to reproduce the type of blood that's in the bloodlines. A lot of people speculate is the RH negative blood. And so they're used to start new dynasties. And so that's what happens with the Amalekites. And guess who is the first army that's going to come out to attack Israel as they come out of the Exodus from escaping Egypt? It's the Amalekites. And if they wipe Israel from the face of the earth, which they swear an oath to do, they wouldn't inherit all of those blessings.

God helps Israel that day and they win. But that's the first sort of barbaric battle. I mean, you've got a tribe that is a nation of slaves. They don't have any weapons. They don't have any manufacturing. They're dealing with hybrids and giants because the amalachim are part of the tribes in Genesis 14 in the war of giants, which predate the creation of the Amalekite hybrids. But the Amalekites will live with the Amalekim around the Petra area and a couple other pockets that I will cover in the book. And they're the ones that want to inherit for the dragon bloodline.

the Magianic blessing, so a dragon Messiah, and all of the birth rights and blessings that were provided. And in coming back to now to the report, numbers 1333, described nations that were taller than Egypt. And that's reconfirmed in Deuteronomy, one, these details of the accurate details that Joshua and Caleb portrayed. And these are the hybrids. You've got Amarites. you've got Amalekites, you got the Hittites, and all of those tribes are hybrids that lived amongst the Raphim. So you have giants, hybrid giants that are making up that whole empire of the giants in the Middle East. The Egyptians called them the Shazoo out of the execration text.

What does Shazoo mean? It's just a name that they had applied to them, but it was applied to a hybrid. race that were giant-like but not giants. And so they were seven to nine feet tall versus 12, 14, 16, 19 feet tall of post-deluvian giant. So that's because of the diluted bloodline of the human female or the human male that would participate with a female giant. And so you create this hybrid giant. and they need to intermarry because of that fertility issue.

Yeah, I want to come back and talk about the fertility issue because there's other things later that happen that make more sense when you realize they were having this issue of producing females. One question I want to ask you, and maybe other people have this question, why were the giants smaller after the flood than before the flood? because, you know, in prediluvian, they're talking about crazy numbers of, I'm like,

how could a woman even get birth to something like this without dying in the process? But why were they smaller after the flood? It's an excellent question, and I would say it would come down to two possibilities. One, which I'll say first, which I think is from a biblical thing, which makes kind of more sense, I think. but you can rationalize the other one as well is I think God put some restrictions on the new giants just as he's limiting life in Genesis 6-3 to 120 years including the giants over generations

as you see those generations get smaller after the in age after the flood that would affect the giants as well and so there's more restrictions likely put on and size would be one of them and less of the superpower sort of gifts, not that they didn't have some, they just didn't have as much. And the fertility issue so that they couldn't populate and take over the world like they did, because the Nephlin before the flood procreated with themselves in huge numbers. But now they're having to intermarry

and they take over the Royale bloodline, right, the Royals, Al being a transliteration of E.L. for the Hebrew word for angel or a god, Roy being king or ruler, and it goes back to Indo-Arians in rule as well. And so the other reason is comes from the polytheist understanding, and I don't think this is the case because angels are immortal. And I think there was enough angels that rebelled, and I don't see how an offspring god would actually take over. But in polytheism, and you have the offspring gods killing off the parent gods and all the different panther. We can't kill somebody that's immortal. So something different is going on here. But they do take over.

And I think they take over because there's a host of rebellious angels, which is the Hebrew word Saba, which means an angel of armies, which has rank and order. And in an army, if you lose a general, somebody comes, steps up and replaces you. And I think that's what happens. But in polytheist accountings, is they're offspring of two gods in the physical world. So what that means is when the fallen angels took a spiritual form, I mean went from a spiritual form to a physical form, to be able to procreate with giants,

to procreate with humans to make giants. They could also procreate with themselves. And if so, that would be an offspring god. But it would be inferior to the parent God, which, again, you start to get into conendrums because how does inferior gods overthrow? the parent gods. And why would inferior ones be leading angels

that would be superior that didn't go to the abyss? So you start to get into some conundrums. But if you're creating a lower level of God in the physical world, that's higher than a demigod, it's still going to have less traits that it could pass on. So I think restrictions fits better, but I recognize that maybe they did reproduce

these other ones. And for some reasons, you have inferior gods taking over all of the leadership around the world. That doesn't make sense to me, but I can see how you could get there. But nonetheless, the giants are different. And they're called Raphaim versus Nephilim, to denote that difference. Yeah, that's an interesting point. You know, why are they called something different than before the flood, you know, the Nephilim and now we got the Refiam. And you got all these other weird things going on in Canaan. And I want to get to the fertility issue because that actually directly ties into Sodom and Gomorrah with them not being able to really reproduce. One question I want to ask you, kind of off track.

You know, when you look at the names of angels in the Bible, they tend to end with L, Raphael, Gabriel, even the fallen angels, Aziziel. and I realize L has a meaning in Hebrew, but I've often wondered, is it like some weird family group, like a family name? So if you take like Raphael, the apocrypha of the old King James, that would mean Raffa is 7495 in the lexicon, which is the root word for giant and part of the meaning. And Rafa means to heal. and or medicine or a doctor. So you could define that as healer of God or God heals. So there's a meaning in the name. So Gadrail in the book of Enoch, which would be another name for Satan or HALL,

it means wall of God as you take that back to Hebrew. And that's one of the ways you know there's a lot of accuracy in the text of the book of Enoch because there's a lot of Hebrew words that you can actually take back. to the Hebrew and get a full meaning for. And Gaddarel would be one of them. And angels had several different names. So if they had different positions, they would have a different name or a title for that.

You know, you have one angel that's in the book of Enoch that doesn't have an EL, and that's Shemiaza. And that, to me, looks more like kind of a corruption or a corruption of a title name because he has kind of the same title. as Azazel. And a lot of researchers think that down through the ages

and the transcribing of it through different languages, and we don't have an original Hebrew manuscript, just some pieces, parchments of it. We have Giaz, we have Arabic, we have Greek, we have Slavonic, but not that full manuscript of Hebrew to test its veracity.

Thinks that that is a corruption of Azazel because Azazel is the leader of the watchers. So is Semiazza. So there's a conflict there. or there's a meaning that we don't understand. I think it's more of a corruption or a corruption of his, one of his title names. So just as Satan's name would also be Samayal in the Talmud in his seraphic form. He's in his troubic form in Eden, which seems to be Gadrael.

And then also you have in Isaiah 14, it's actually, Hale L, not Lucifer, that's an Italian word inserted into the English language for a Hebrew word. They should have just translated it as HaleL, not the meaning as they would, as they translated Michael or Gabriel, but for some reasons chose not to. So it's Hale L Ben Shikar is the Hebrew there. And Hale L is one of his title names, and it roots back to the three different words and I mean, shining and stuff like that and proud and boaster and a whole bunch of other things. I cover all of that in the new book.

But just to show you that there's different titles that angels would have, up to seven different names. So as Azel as one of the Satan's, as the leader of the watchers, sort of Satan's right-hand man and called one of the Satan's, he could have different names. So if you look at that word Shem-Yaza, you have Shem. out of Hebrew, which is the same word for Shem in the New Testament, nootok, and it means famous or renowned or reputation. And equally it derives from Shemayim, as opposed to Shema, which is the singular Shemma, Shema doesn't show up in the Old Testament, but Shemayim does, which means heavens and plural or heavenly ones, just as Nephilim would be giant ones, just as Serafim,

be the serpent-faced ones. And it's plural, but it has a little bit more description. So you've got two Hebrew words at the beginning. And then Yaza is both a Zen and an Arabic word for an angelic being, which seems to be inserted there. But you could also look at it that maybe it is a short version of Azazel, because you have Azez. A there, which is a partial spelling. So Azazel is rooted in as and as-as. So, and then you have the EEL and they definitely, both of them mean mighty, strong, powerful. So it could be just a corruption of shortening that too, that his one of his titles would be, as you would understand,

a mighty strong one of the heavens or the mighty strong ones of significant infamy or fame or reputation. So I think it's a bit of a corruption there. And so now you get to Beal, who is the, he's equivalent to Osiris. He's equivalent to Zeus. He's equivalent to Anki. He is the head of the pantheon and the assembly of gods, as it's understood in all of the different pantheons around the world.

And that he has different titles and names as well. And in the occult, there's three or four different spelling. of Raphael, not of the one that's in the apocrypha. And seemingly, the eponymous and patriarchal name that the Raphaim are going to take their name from. And you have with these giants that name Rafa 7495 is the root, and it means to heal. In the Eucharitic text, the Raphaim are healers. Just as in the priest king mythos of the bloodlines, they are healers, like the Maravignans.

They had healing powers. And that's part of that mythos. And the Raphaim could not only heal themselves, but they could heal others. And there's examples in the text. And I provide some of those examples in the new book. And that's an important understanding because to kill a giant, you typically have to take their head. And then the execration text, losing your head as a royal, was the worst humility you could suffer because you wouldn't be able to use your knowledge or heal yourself back. But you wouldn't be able to find your way into Shaul or Hades or the underworld or the gods lived to be with your godfathers.

And so taking the head is such a sudden blow that you don't have time to heal. So they could heal themselves either something in the DNA or, as some people speculate with the sarcophagus. Yeah, it's fascinating. When you go through Greek mythology, you'll see time and time again when they kill a giant or these demigods, they have to take the head off. Even like a freak like Medusa, I think in order to kill Medusa, you had to cut her head off. and you see that in the Bible with David and Goliath. You know, Goliath is dead. David killed him.

Everyone knows Goliath is dead on both sides when he falls. And I always thought he kind of put the exclamation point on the whole thing when he went over and grabbed the sword and cut the head off. But I remember thinking, geez, guy, calm down a little bit. Like, you already killed the guy. There's no reason to, it's a little over the top. but maybe there was something more going on there to where he could self-heal. I think so.

He wanted to make sure he was going to stay dead. And that was the only way. And you get accounts throughout history of taking the head in all cultures of these giants. And because the refi in, you know, the Raphaim have a counterfeit spirit. And so it's going to try and make, because humans pure. spirits sleep and go back to heaven. But the counterfeit spirits don't sleep and they're not permitted into heaven and they're not and they're going to either go to one or three places. They're going to find their way to their gods in jail or Hades, the other world, the underworld,

whatever you want to call it, or they're going to wander the earth as demonic spirits, or they're going to go to the abyss prison, but in the sides, if they're part of the terrible ones, who did terrible things, as Ezekiel 32 talks about it. If you want to start figuring out what Ezekiel 32 is, you have these terrible spirits of the Nephleem versus the mighty L, which are the angels that are also in the abyss prison, but these are the ones that are talking to Pharaoh,

who is also a Raphaim beast king in this dual prophecy. And it starts to make some sense out of that prophecy once you understand the connection there. And so they're either going to go to wander the earth, or they're going to go to the abyss prison. That's why it's the worst death that you could have as a royal. And they would do that to their worst enemies, which were typically giants as well, right?

So it starts to make some sense of all of these different accounts throughout history of taking the hits. And, of course, it rolls through on the vampire mythos as well. Yeah, and as you were talking, Gary, you know, I was sitting there thinking it really is all over the, the world in different cultures. I mean, even in like Greek mythology, I think Achilles was like 12 feet tall. And in order to actually kill him, you had to take his head off.

And you just find it over, even giants, you know, what's popular now is the Ananaki coming down, these star people coming down. And when you look at the Samarian drawings, these Ananaki are giants, you know. And so it really is all over the world with these giants. And the whole story about David cutting off Goliath's head, I was like, you know, it's a little over the top guy. But it always makes you wonder if there's more going on there than what you realize. And I want to touch on a few other topics, including Sodom and Gomorrah. But would you go into a little bit about the fertility issues that these hybrids were having,

which makes you stop and think about like aliens? how what's the story when people come back? It has to do with reproduction. You know, they'll take women up there. They'll take men up there. And these people that come back have these stories of, you know, there's some fertility going on. Something was taken out, whether it be eggs or whatever. There's a lot of that going on, too, in alien encounters.

But going back to the book, would you talk about this fertility issue the hybrids were having? I give a number of examples in it where they are unable to reproduce. And it starts with like those fertility rituals. It just starts with if the culture is to intermarry and to keep those bloodlines pure, the only reason why you would go outside of that is if you have diseases, which will come in downstream like Habsburg disease, Habsburg-lock-jaw disease and or hemophiliac or things like that.

But at that time, we're not getting any indication that there's blood diseases, but they have a shortage of females. They just can't, they produce more males than females. And in their nature, when they're warring with themselves, they like to steal the other females for themselves, and a lot of times they just kill them. So understand that the giants fought against, against each other regularly as rivals, both before and after the floods.

So there's a shortage of females. And so that's going to require them to intermarry. Otherwise, they're going to go extinct, right? They have to. It's not that they want to because they look at us as insects, as mundane, as inferior, but they have to do that. So, you know, like the anachim are likely, one of the rates that produces the Amarites because the Anakim are blonde-haired and the Amarites are depicted as blonde-haired.

And the Raphaim are typically understood as red-haired and Horim as red-haired. And so you get an idea where some of these hair colors and skin colors start to come from as they produce the Horites, which is the high. hybrid branch and then the Amalekites may, they're part of the amalachim. So I wouldn't put them in with the red-haired ones. They actually may be more dark-haired and more associated to the ones because the amalekites are also in the east just as the Elamites and the dark-haired giants are part of the east, just as they're also part of the Indo-Aryans of Greece, where you have like the Akameid bloodline that goes back to the Indo-Aryans.

and they're all dark-haired ones. So there's different sort of groups of them that are out there, but all of them, no matter where they are, they're going to intermarry with humans. So the people of Japh, they're going to move up into Scythia where the Scythian giants are, and they're going to intermarry. And they're going to take even some of the names of the giants.

So Magog is as a giant's name, but a giant name from before the flood. because Magog is the son of Gopedus, the parent god that Poseidon takes over for and takes his mythos with him. And he also produced Gog and Albion before the flood. Now, giants are also named after giants. Giants after the flood that are born are sometimes named after giants before the flood as well. So Gilgamesh in the epic at Gilgamesh, we talked about six generations after the flood. There's also a Gilgamesh before the flood.

in the book of giants. So that's one example of giants being named before and after the flood. And I think Magog would be a name of a giant named after an antediluvian giant as well. Now, Polytheus would say they survived the flood. That's how they show up, except that you get their birthing accounts after the flood. So that would be a little bit in conflict. So anyways, this intermarriage is going on all over the place because they have to. And you create more of the Amao, the Shamau.

These are all hybrids titles for this new tribes. And eventually they're going to take on more of the human traits and not be as tall over time. But no matter what throughout the history, they're still trying to keep those genealogies as pure as possible because that's where they fit in the hierarchy of the genealogical cult. So, and they have specific genses like the Elbe gens. I cover in the first book and I do in the second book as well in a little bit more detail or the Julia gens and the fairy gens, the elven genes, the gene of ISIS, all of those different sort of references for that genological bloodline. So I think we get lots of accounts that they're intermarrying because they have to. Yeah, it makes more sense when you look at the big picture because when you look at some of these dynamic.

I always wondered, you know, like Egyptian dynasties, they married each other. You know, sometimes it was sons and mothers. Sometimes it was brothers and sisters, but it was always within the family. And you see that through almost every dynasty up until, I would say, a little bit before modern times. And maybe it was because of all of the different diseases and stuff. They couldn't do that anymore. But maybe they were trying to hold on to some bloodline or, you know, the DNA pure, and it makes you wonder why?

Why is that so important? And I think when you brought up the whole royal comment, that was really fascinating to me about where that came from. Yeah, and it's the gene that produces the blood type. And it's the gene of the gods. That's the spark of the divine or the thousand points of light they like to refer to. That's in their descendants. And so it leads you now into a better understanding of what's going on in Sodom and Gomorrah in terms of a fertility issue. That's a possibility that's going on here.

But that's first of all talk about how the giants, how angels can reproduce, which are spirit beings, can reproduce with humans. They need a physical body and a soul to interact physically in this world. So in Jude 1-6, there's a description of the angels at the time of the flood. They left their habitation. That's the Greek word Eukitarian. It means a dwelling place for a spirit. So there's a dwelling place for the spirit in heaven. And in 2 Corinthians 5, 2, Euketarian is used for the only.

this second time, there's variations of Oiketarian, but the second time it's used is for House of Heaven. So a dwelling place in heaven. And so they need a dwelling place in the physical world as well. And so that's the soul on the body. So the Spirit comes from heaven. It merges with the soul and the body. And now you can interact physically in the world. That produces DNA.

That's the genes that are going to be passed on to the Spiritus offspring. the giants and the additional powers, additional size, and the spark of that divine coming from the immortal angels. And so if now we look at the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, and just before that, you have the angel of the Lord who takes a human form, and you have two angels that take a human form. And at first, Abraham doesn't recognize them as angels, but then he does, and then they can drink, they can eat, they can touch, they can interact in the physical world, and then two of those angels go over to Sodom and they're recognized as angels at that point in time. So they seem to have an ability to say, I can be in human form, be recognized or not. And we also get

in Hebrews 13 that you need to be nice to strangers lest you meet up with an angel. So again, both New and Old Testament tells us angels can take a physical form. and they can also take a gender of their choice. So that's how you have mother goddesses and female gods in the pantheon. They can take a gender, a male, or female. And so now you roll all that into the Sodom and Gomorrah story, and you've got hybrid Canaanites and Amorites living in Sodom, who are very familiar with the creation of the Raphaim

and all of the history that would have been passed on to them before the flood. They know angels can have sex and that they can reproduce. So you could interpret that that they wanted to have homosexual sex or you could look at it that they would want them to change their gender

so that they could produce. Or maybe they were wanting the angels to have, sex, which is the traditional way with some of their daughters. So you could look at all of that. And it's not just a sin biblically to have sex within the same sex within Old Testament law that was provided to Israel, but also adultery would be a sin as well. Having any sort of sex outside of marriage is a sin. And a violation that seemingly is not forgiven is sex between humans and angels.

And they're familiar with all of this. They're worshipping the balaim in Sodom, which is why that understanding is so important. So it could mean that they wanted them to reproduce more giants because they wanted, They had an alliance that they made with the giants when they moved into the covenant land. And they wanted more of those demigods to help protect them as opposed to the smaller virgin because there's all sorts of giants walking around the earth at that time. There's great numbers of giants and hybrids. Yeah, it's really fascinating when you think about the fertility issue.

I know when they found Sodom, it looks like a bomb went off there. I mean, things are melted. There's sulfur everywhere. And outside of the Bible, I've never really heard a great explanation to what happened there. And, you know, it really adds more to it because I think when people read that passage, they'll say, look, God hates homosexuals so much. He wiped Sodom and Gomorrah off the planet. And that's not really, I don't think it had anything to do with that. And the whole fertility issue and these two angels showing.

up and understanding they can take male or female form adds more to why these guys were like zombies. You know, there was a war going on and a fertility issue going on. It really makes that, that whole story of Sodom and Gamora makes sense to me anyway. Yeah. Now, you can make a better connection to homosexuality to the giants. So you get a reference in the book of giants, apocryphal, and we don't have the full manuscript of it, of them seemingly having homosexual sex between themselves before the flood.

And then in the book of Lamek of Kane, which is, again, very apocryphal, that that was a common trait amongst the giants as well after the flood because of the fertility issue, that if they're going to have sex, they would have sex between themselves. And then these are the same types of sins that Sodom is going to do that the Canaanites are going to, or the Amarites are going to do in full measure by the time Israel comes back to the Covent Land. So they've totally defiled the land. And at that time, and we're going to talk about the wars against these giants, you have, even after the 40 years in the desert, desert, they're way outnumbered by the hybrids and the giants. They have iron chariots.

They have iron weaponry. They have horses. They have, and there's no manufacturing facility for the Israelites. And they're going up against high wall fortresses, you know, walls up to the sky. And there's so many of the different Pentapolis nations. In fact, Ogg has 60 cities, 12 Pentapaliz's military states. And they're going to go up against them and they can't win by themselves. But the first thing that they do is they announce to all of the people in the land.

This is the land of God. It's his portion in the nations. and Israel is his portion, and you have settled in that land in wait to ambush and wipe Israel from the face of the earth, and that all of these nations take up that Amalekite oath. And even in the time of David, that transgenerational oath is still in place. So in Psalms 83, you get listing of these nations that includes the Philistines, the ancestors of the Palestinians, and the people of Tear, the Sedonians, where Hamas, And Hezbollah are operating on today and the constitutional belief, at least with the Hamas to wipe Israel from the face of the earth, is part of this transgenerational oath that is taken against Israel is still alive today.

And we saw that in World War II and throughout history. There's this suffering that Israel and Judah are suffering more from the violation of the covenant, part of the curses of the covenant, that they have to go through this. If they had held up the covenant, we'd have a little different history, and it would be, history would have unfolded through the blessings of the covenant. But nonetheless, you have this covenant that has taken at that time to wipe Israel from the face of the earth and they're not leaving. And they were waiting for Israel to come to wipe them from the face of the earth because that's the center of monotheism. The rest of the world is polytheist, just as Satan runs this world as the prince of the world, sitting over top of the council of the gods, ruled by all of the spurious offspring, worship through the religion of Babel, the daughters of Babylon religion. It's all the same religion and pantheon around the world.

and they want to make sure that they're going to wipe Israel from the face of the earth so that they can't bring on their Messiah because the Adamites, who I referenced earlier, were created as a resolution to the angelic rebellion and the giants were originally created to be the visible ones so the angels don't get blood on their hands to wipe the humans from the face of the earth or lead them into absolute destruction to be remembered no more. So understanding the context of what they're going up to, so they announced to the giants and before every war leave or we're going to do battle. But the giants were hubris. They said, no, we're going to march out and we're going to wipe you from the face of the earth.

Now, Israel can't win on their own. One of the things that sort of comes out of the occult, particularly the enjou and their Fler-D-Lee also has a secondary emblem that's a, the bee, you get this hive mind that the giants had the ability to have a telepathy between them. They call that the hive mind. We sort of see that reflected in end-time prophecy in Revelation 17 where the 10 kings of the 7th Beast Empire of giants and their bloodlines are going to in like mind, in high mind, hand their power over to Antichrist at the midpoint of the last seven years. and that they believe, and I write about this in the book and give some sourcing on it, that acting together with this telepathy, there's nothing that they can't do. And there's working in this high mind with the bee queen, the queen of heaven in their belief system, the mother goddess,

they're very, very strong. And they did war that way as well. Now, what's interesting is, is God help Israel in several ways by discreetly, combulating those armies. Otherwise, they would have had no chance. And any time Israel went, whether or not it was against the Canaanites and King Arad, as they're just starting out of the wilderness and they're going to attack without God's authority, they lose.

They get their butts kicked. They have no chance. But God does several things. One is he might discombobulate them in well. ways that aren't described. Sometimes they use hailstones. I think there's one account of that, but three times it promises that they're going to,

God's going to serve up hornets, discombobulate the giants. That's kind of odd. Until you understand that, that hive-blind belief system that they had back then, and they're trying to re-backwards engineer to get that back, the hornets are the natural enemy of the bee and that seemed to have just broke up their ability to communicate or think clearly and they panic so Israel just had to walk up to them and lop their heads off because they had no ability to fight back so these nations were giant nations populated with hybrids sworn oath the white Israel from the face of the earth Israel had no chance, but they were all given the opportunity to leave, and they chose otherwise.

And so in perfect sort of justice, if you want to call an eye for an eye, just as the Amalekites were separated for special destruction in the time of King Saul and David, those giants were going to be wiped from the covenant land. but they didn't extend that outside the covenant land, just within the covenant land. But even so, Israel didn't wipe them all. That's why you have wars throughout the judges. I cover the judges' wars and the Solomon Wars and the Davidic wars against the giants as well.

And so it's a very long process. And all through that, you know, the giant nations within the land are working against Israel and the giants that are outside. the covenant land are warring with Israel. So Israel's not going to war with them after they settle down. The giants just keep up the war. So I walked through all of the giant wars from Genesis 14,

from the battle over Fritim with the Amalekites, Athram with Arad, the Eastern Campaign, the Central Campaign, the Northern Campaign, the Mountain and the Southern Campaign, and then the wars against those giants and identify how you can recognize them as giants in those wars and hybrids and all the way through, as I say, into the time of King Solomon. So I give all of the giant wars. Yeah, the book really makes you think a lot about not only the past, but where we're at today.

And, you know, even with World War II, and you think of Hitler and the Nazis and the concentration, camps for the Jews and his whole plan about this master race. All of that was the occult. Hillard didn't dream up this idea of, you know, blonde-haired, blue-eye, master race. He was getting that from the past through the occult, talking about the Nephilim. And, you know, it goes back much weirder than I think a lot of people think. I think it was more than just Taylor was some racist that didn't like. Jews. There was a lot of a cult going on. And I know even with the first book and the second book that's set to come out, there's so much in it. It's hard to cram it all into an hour. But that first

book was definitely worth the read for me. And I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed the way you write and I enjoy the references. And I love the first book and I can't wait to read the second one. when does the second book actually come out? Well, it's ready. There's a problem in the industry. There's a paper shortage. There's a printer shortage and a labor shortage. And it's already in digital version for Kindle.

So Amazon, Barnes & Noble.com, my website, it's all up for pre-order, the printed book. The Kindle isn't up for pre-order yet, which makes no sense. So you have to put out, the publisher has to, to put out a release date that they can guarantee. And if you don't, then you get severely punished by the large retailers, because there's a couple of large retailers that control most of the market. And so March 12th is the release date, even though it's been ready since September, it's the shortage.

And so we expect to beat the release date. and I had no idea until, you know, like a month ago that it would take this long because once it was done on the first book, it was out within two weeks. So I was expecting it to be out in October. So I think sometime shortly after Christmas, as soon as I get books, I'll be shipping people that have preordered with me. Or if it's before Christmas, I'll start shipping then. I don't know what Amazon will do. I would presume that if the book is available and they're taking pre-orders that they would want to start shipping right away too, but the official date is March 12th. And I know that date won't be missed, but it is what it is.

And so, but in the meantime, people can go through and they can look at the table of contents. And I think you're going to look at the table of contents and it's absolutely extraordinary. And I have a generous chapter of all 84 chapters. And if you think you've read the whole book, it's like the first book. it's a drop in the bucket of the information that I'm going to provide for you. And I'm going to give you sourcing information that's unseen. It's not redundant of the first book. There is a little bit of overlap.

This is new information. And it talks, it just brings, if people thought the Old Testament came to life in the first book, this gives you the vivid description. of what Israel was up against and what that world was like shortly after the flood, you know, and for the first thousand years. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. And for the listeners out there, go to Genesis6 Conspiracy.com. Get yourself the first copy.

And when Marshalls around, trust me, you'll want to read the second one. But Gary, I really appreciate you taking the time to come. Come on, man. It's been too long and I enjoyed chatting with you. Well, thank you. It's been my humble pleasure to be here with you. It's always wonderful to work with you and invite me back anytime. Thanks again, Gary. And that's it for tonight. Everyone, remember if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com.

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