Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1046 Three Months In Hell

Episode Date: April 6, 2024

I will be welcoming Jerry to the show. Jerry writes "I lived deep in Provo Canyon, in Utah, in a camper trailer with thousands of square miles of forest right behind where I lived. The first month and a half I lived there was peaceful. One day it felt like I was being watched and I had a bad feeling almost like I was sick. I fell asleep that night and woke up suddenly in the middle of the night. I had 2 "Wyze" cameras set up inside my trailer (Later I faced one outside so I could see what was happening, although they avoided the infrared light) that recorded 24/7 and they also have night vision but a crappy microphone for audio recording. So when I woke up I immediately felt like I was being watched and that something was wrong. I checked the recording on my phone from the camera as I just had a feeling that something woke me up. I looked at the recording from my cameras on my phone and there was a big BANG as if something slapped the side of my trailer thus waking me up. The video titled "Attack1" shows what I saw and what happened and you can hear me wake up from it. I was trying to justify what the bang was but something felt off so I stayed up all night and A LOT more happened. "attack2", "attack3", and "attack4" videos are all from that night some being very violent. the camera microphone is very cheap so you will need to turn the volume all the way up to hear what it sounded like and it still was louder in person. The cameras record clips when a sound is loud enough or when it detects motion. At that time the cameras were both inside my trailer recording the inside. The creatures were just outside my door that night and if I had opened my door I would have seen them. I was scared stiff in my bed trying to be silent and I was just frozen to say the least. I heard whistling and quick "whooops" coming from behind my trailer where some bushes were and also from the side and front of my trailer as I lay there all night not being able to move, breathe, or make a sound. My cat was very curious as to what was going on as you can see in the videos and you can tell where the sasquatch was standing from where my cat is. Once the sasquatch hit the trailer my cat would get scared and run back to me in my room. I could hear the sasquatch run away but only the first 3 steps as they left. then BANG they came back to hit the trailer again later in the night. I could hear the whistling and whooping throughout the night. The next day I quickly left my trailer with my camera once the light came out and Very quickly took pictures in the directions where I had heard the whistling and whooping. It took me some time to look at the pictures but when I did I was shocked once I zoomed in and studied the pictures. There was a BIG one hiding next to a house showing his teeth at me and this photo was taken from behind my trailer. Also, the black one hiding in the bushes was taken from the front of my trailer. In both photos, they are both about 200 yards away and the pictures were taken with a 1080p Sony camera which is why the zoomed-in photos are a little grainy. Now those videos are from 1 night, and the photos from the morning right after. I included pictures of both areas without the sasquatch for comparison as well. Yes, there were some tracks and I have some photos if you want them. I only stayed there as I was hoping the attacks would stop but after a month of trying they became bolder and bolder and I had to abandon the trailer, take what I could carry and my cat to my car while looking down at the ground so that I wouldn't see one in person (seeing one in person with my eyes would have been way too much for my mind). Yes, I saw a HUGE male sasquatch, through the night vision camera and I have never been more scared in my life. this email would be a book if I wrote all that happened during that month and I am shaking while writing this and I feel sick. I included a video of a possible sasquatch on my landlord's roof that has his arm reaching down and he pulls it up as he lifts his face towards the camera as if he hates it. His face is lit up by a light and infrared light which is why I think his face looks like it is glowing. It was also raining and it appears that there is a water droplet that moved and then the infrared becomes stronger on its face and that's when you see his arm move up and face turn up. I am curious what you think about this video. there is another picture that appears to show a brownish female sasquatch and her arm standing to the left of what I think is the big one but I admit it is not the best photo. There is also a photo of a possible dogman but it is a long exposure. I heard sounds I can't describe, my windows were ALL covered so I put my phone under the blanket covering the window and took the photo. I hope it's not what it looks like but I figured I would include it and you can make up your own mind about it. I NEVER went back to the trailer to get my stuff. but that's a long story I can tell you over the phone. As much as I love the mountains I have never been back to any of them since. I was a Boy Scout and lived for camping my whole life. I grew up and lived right next to Little Cottonwood Canyon and spent most of my life exploring, camping, and hiking in the mountains and all over Utah and it makes me cry that it has been ruined for me. I have so much more to tell you that I can't write out but people need to know what can happen and that these creatures are real and to be careful. Once I got a little vocal about what was happening with my landlord, the other tenants, and my family (sometimes showing some of them just some of the pictures and videos I have) The other tenants moved out of the mountains 3 days later, my family thought I needed help, and the landlord KNEW (I have theories about him) about these things and then he also ended up moving around the time my lease was up (I had paid in full for 6 months upfront). Anyway, I am a bit worked up typing this as the PTSD from this is still there, although I am doing much better now and I can communicate much better in person and explain so much more in a way that makes better sense as it is hard to convey 40 days ish of being tormented and scared to death through a shortish email. Also, the aftermath of what can happen when you are vocal with the wrong people that "I had/have A LOT of evidence of these creatures". I feel that this needs to be shared so others do not make some of the mistakes I made hopefully or at least get this off of my chest with people who know this is real. I apologize if this message does not make much sense and I hope to talk to you and go through what has happened to me while being trapped and tormented deep in Provo Canyon. People need to be warned and I need to get this message out of what can happen." https://sasquatchchronicles.com/sc-ep1046-three-months-in-hell/

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. What are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That's son of a bitch is about six years. Bitch is about six foot nine. I don't know. Do you see a male, sir? Yes, I'm looking right in it.

Hi, this is Emily from New York, and you're listening to the one and only Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you. We'll be chatting with Jerry. And in 2022, Jerry moved out in the middle of nowhere. He thought being in seclusion, it would kind of help him find peace. but he found the opposite of that.

He ended up running a trailer on this property. And the guy that owned the property, his behavior about what is going on is very strange. But many odd things start happening to Jerry, and I'll kind of let him go into it, but it gets worse and worse and worse. If you've had an encounter and he'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email.

My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. To check out all of Jerry's pictures and videos, go to Sasquatch Chronicles.com, and I'll put them underneath this episode. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Jerry to the show. Jerry, thanks for coming on. Yeah, happy to be here. I appreciate you having me on.

I'm a big fan of the show. Oh, thanks, man. I appreciate that. And I know we're going to go into the situation that happened to you in 2022 in Provo Canyon, Utah. Before we get into that, Jerry, what was kind of your feelings about the whole subject of Sasquatch prior to any of this happening to you? You know, to be honest, I wasn't quite sure about it. I heard, like, credible reports. I was always curious about the Patty film. I just wasn't sure. I wasn't sure. I wasn't. I wasn't. I was open to the idea of it being real, but if somebody told me they saw one, I probably, you know, would, I don't know, I'd probably take it with a grain of salt. I didn't really believe that it existed. If I'm being, like, completely truthful, I just wouldn't have ever expected it because I spent so much time on nature. My whole life, I've been a Boy Scout in Utah, you know, going camping once a month at least, you know, throughout my life. growing up, I've been all over the place and super remote areas. And I'd never had anything happen.

Yeah, I get it, man. I get it. That's why I'm not really hard on skeptics because it sounds crazy when people say they ran into these things. But they're out there. If you would, take me back to 2022 in Utah. How did you end up in this place and just kind of walk me into what happened? Yeah, so it was 2022.

So COVID had just happened. I was moving back from Texas. I had just gotten out of the long-term relationship. It was really fresh. Moving back to Utah, I was at my parents. It was looking for a place to live. I love nature. I love being outdoors.

It's something that has always brought me peace. I spent, I lived right next to a candy. growing up and I spent all my time building forts out there, you know, exploring the area. I just wanted to be in a place where I was outdoors again, you know, and I could get back to that kind of childhood self of being outdoors. And the up Provo Canyon, this trailer popped up. And, you know, it's good size. It had pop-outs. You know, enough room for one person, you know, more than enough to live in. And it was all hooked up. So I didn't have to worry about anything seemed like a nice place.

I went and checked it out with my mom and my dad, I believe. We looked it over. It seemed nice. Landlord seemed nice. It was really in a remote area. You drive pretty far up for a volcano. And then you make a left into this big neighborhood. It's in like a big valley in between some mountains.

Kind of a big U-shaped. where all the houses are. I was kind of towards the top of the U shape, so pretty far back. It's at the top of the U and is snowing outside. You know, things are just really beautiful. It is quite the place to live. I was really excited about it. So I move in.

Nothing crazy and nothing's going on. It's just a normal place. I'm spending a lot of time out of the camper, you know, taking pictures, post them on Instagram. just in, you know, trying to show the world that they should be jealous of where I live, because I felt jealous of where I lived, honestly. I just felt really lucky and blessed. Yeah, super blessed.

It was amazing. I paid for six months up front because I was so, like, set on this place. I didn't think anything of it. I was just like, okay, do six months up front. Things were nice and calm for a good, I don't know, month and a half, first month and a half, I was there. It was really calm. Every day was just a beautiful day. I'd wake up.

I worked remotely. So I just hit at the little desk in the kitchen and work. There's a big window to the right of me there that looks up at the mountain that goes forever. They can just keep walking forever. The first night, something happened. I was dead asleep. I have two infrared cameras set up for security. One watches the inside of the trailer and one's in a window.

facing out so you can see the whole driveway and that area around there so you can see my car the other cars the driveway the road there the trees all around you can see the roof of the house um so i i wake up in the middle of the night and i just have this feeling that something woke me up i haven't really had that before um and i have these cameras so i'm like okay if something woke me up then it's going to be on the cameras. So I pull out my phone and I look and there's this just loud, I look at the video, it's just a loud thump. And I'm, you know, look, I'd have done that.

You know, there's nobody up here. I haven't seen any neighbors walking around. The only people I've seen are construction people. I just didn't know what to think. So I obviously wasn't going back. back to bed, so I just stayed awake, laying there in bed. I had my TV in there in the room, so I just got the TV on really quiet. You know, I have headphones that I can use.

And so I just spend time there, you know, the night goes on. Nothing really happens. And then it starts getting closer to morning, and things start picking up again. And I'm hearing more banging. I'm hearing just weird sounds I'm hearing something walking back and forth

on the right side of the trailer so the one that's facing the mountain and it doesn't sound like human steps they were a little bit longer it was like step step step step they're really rhythmic and slow

and then they'd stop for a while then they'd pick back up. You know, I just didn't know what to think. And as the sun started getting closer to come up, I hear, you know, another loud bang, and then something runs off. And that was the last thing that happened that morning. Sun came up.

You know, I thought, what a weird night. I wasn't thinking Sasquatch. You know, I wasn't thinking Bigfoot. I didn't know what to think. You know, and I've got these videos on my camera, because every time one of these sound events besides the footsteps would happen, the camera would pick it up. And so, you know, I can check my reality.

I'm not hearing things. It's on camera. It's recorded. You know, I don't know what to think. You know, I do live in the wilderness, so, you know, maybe it's some type of animal. There's elk around. There's turkeys around. You know, maybe it was just something.

I don't know. I hear you. So you're kind of passing it off. Like it must have been something weird. It's over with. And now I can move on with my life. And I get that. I probably would have reacted. You know, if I didn't buy into Sasquatch, I probably would have reacted that way as well. And I know the cameras that you're using, because I've used those same cameras. And the audio is terrible on them. It doesn't quite pick up audio that well. So when the audience is looking, at your video up on Sasquatch Chronicles.com, the bangs I know for a fact are much louder than what you hear in that video. I want to ask you

though, because I'm assuming this question is probably in some people's minds. Why set up cameras? Not that I think it's a bad idea by any means. You know, I inherit a lot of my treats for my dad, and

it's something he does. in his houses. And I kind of just copied him, to be quite honest. It's just a security measure, not something that you ever think you're going to use or need to look at until you do. Yeah, it's smart. Like I said, I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm not sure why I felt the need to ask about your camera system. But, no, I think it's a very smart idea of what you're doing. And you did capture some very cool stuff. And you know, this being on the camper, I mean, I could see how, you know, most sane people don't go, well, that must be Bigfoot. You know, you would think some sort of animal, but, you know, when you listen to it, it almost sounds like a man hitting the side of that camper.

But forgive me for interrupting you. So what kind of happens next? I get my camera and I go outside to investigate. You know, I take some pictures to where I heard this thing walking, you know, in the general. direction of where I think whatever animal it was might have walked off to I just snap some photos around

you know I take photos every day it's not really anything a big deal I do some research I go around the camper and I see there's damage on the camper and I find a

muddy handprint you know those awnings that come off campers so there's a there's an arm a big metal arm that's hanging down and resting against the side of the camper and there's a fulcrum up top. And I see what it looks like a muddy handprint, like a big man handprint.

And I can see the length in between the knuckle. And it just looks big. You know, and I'm still trying to not think this is anything, but I'm still taking in all this information, get the landlord, because there's damage on the camper. there's holes in it now. So I get the landlord and I'm like, hey, you know, just so you know there's damage on the camper,

if you want to come out and see it. So he comes out and the first thing he goes, like, oh my goodness. Oh, yeah, that happened when we were setting up the trailer initially. But his initial reaction was surprised and shock and then he went into a quick explanation as to why that was there. But I know it wasn't there. It wasn't there beforehand because I did a once over of the whole thing because I don't want to have to pay for damage later on. You know, I take pictures of everything. So, you know, I know it's not how it was.

So I thought that was strange that he was lying to me. I didn't know why he was. But I still was taking that in as another piece of data is like, okay, this is just a little strange. Landlords obviously shocked but lying. There's weird sounds going on. There's damage. There's a hand. print and as we're talking I noticed the front door mat it's made out of this like a brown

fiber material something had stepped on it and split it in half and left a big heel print because the ground was a little wet it was a little soft just this big heel print and the mat was split where the heel was it was really deep you know it looked like a big animal was there and I say the landlord, look at this. You know, what do you think this is? I don't know. You know, like, he has no explanation.

I have no explanation. All I have is the sounds I heard at night recordings that I have and some strange evidence around the camper. So it just kind of goes on from there. You know, I just try to chalk it up to nothing. You know, I don't want to think too much about it. I don't want to freak myself out.

You know, I like where I live. You know, I... It's really easy, West, to convince yourself that there's nothing when you really don't want there to be something. You know, the next night, I hear loud screaming, and it sounded like a lady dying, like a death scream of a woman that lasted way too long. Now, there's a place in Provo Canyon called Bridal Veil Falls. there's some legend about a lady that, you know, her fiancee left her or something like that and she jumped off the falls to her death and that you can hear her screaming sometimes. So I'm thinking, okay, that's interesting, you know, is that the Bridalville's fall thing?

But, you know, we're a little up from Bridalville Falls. And it didn't sound close, but it wasn't that far away. Just another weird thing, you know, just more dangerous. data. You know, I'm laying in bed. I'm trying not think too much about it, trying to get some sleep. I don't remember what time it was. The camera goes off again. So I take a look at the camera and there's a figure on the roof. My front facing camera picks up, you know, it literally puts a box around like an object that's moving. It doesn't matter what it is, it's going to pick it up and say, hey, there's something right here and it's moving. It puts up that green border box. And I can't really see it because there's a little bit of rain on the window. And then the rain kind of drops.

And when the rain drops, the IR, the infrared, gets flooded out more. And this thing, whatever it is, gets hit by the infrared. And it's by the trailer where we put our trash. And it's reaching, it has its arm reaching down. And it slowly lifts its arm up. It puts its head up at the same time. In such a weird way, because you can't see it put its head up, but it put its head up. It did it so fast that I didn't see the movement.

And all I can see is what looks like a face. And it's being flooded by white light that's hanging out. And then the infrared. So it's really bright. I don't know what I'm looking at. You know, the clip stops, and I'm a little shuckin up, and I'm like, okay, maybe that was, I'm just noticing something weird. So I go to the live feed so I can see what's going on right now instead of what just happened. And this thing is still there, and it's still looking up at the camera, you know, towards the window.

And it's just staring at it. So I zoom in closer, and it doesn't give me a little. a super great view, but I can see lips, I can see where a nose is, and I can see where eyes is. It looks like a devil. Big old wide mouth, just huge. I was still trying to play it off, Wes.

I didn't know what to think at that point. I just see this creature. So I turn off the phone, I don't want to look at it anymore. You know, it's not making me feel good. I'm freaked out by whatever this thing is. I saw it move. I can see its facial features moving a little bit. It's got like a smirk on its face.

It looked like some kind of weird devil. But it was big. I mean, you can see the trailer. You know, it's not a small trailer, and it's a little further away from the camera than the trailer. And its head's big. It's big. I'm still trying to play it off.

Like, it's just something natural that I'm not recognizing. But it shook me up pretty bad. Yeah, that's creepy. That would freak me out. And to clarify for the audience, this isn't on your trailer. It's on the landlord's house. It's on the roof of the garage. On all fours, like it was laying down.

So it was like it was on its stomach reaching down with its right arm. I don't know for what, but its arm was hanging down. When the infrared light hit it, it just, like, it kind of got shocked, slowly lifted its arm up. lifted his head up real quick, right at the IR, right at the camera, and was just staring. And Jerry, do you go and talk to your landlord at this point and being like, hey, there was a freak show on your roof last night? I actually went back through my text today from that time because I ended up texting him a lot throughout this event. I mean, you know, long text every day because every day something was happening. but at this point

I literally don't know what's going on I don't want to even believe what's going on I just want to stop whatever is going on I know I reached out to my dad you know I was thinking maybe my dad's run into something like this because he grew up on a ranch he's a cowboy you know and I tell my dad what's going on I don't say what I saw

what I've seen I just lay out some stuff. I don't say there's something crawling on on the roof because that's going to, I don't know how he's going to react to that. So I just tell him about the pounding, you know, the things slap in the trailer, hearing things run away. And he tells me it's a bear. And I need to contact DNR, I believe, Department of Natural Resources. And, you know, I just, I just go with it. So I tell the landlord, hey, we need to, you know, I'm scared. I know there's something out there at this point.

I just can't, I don't know what to say about it. So I just go with the bear story. And I tell my landlord, hey, there's a bear. It's attacking the trailer. It's roaming around. We've got to do something about this. We got to get somebody out here. You know, we've got to get this taken care of.

And I'm really adamant about it. I send him, you know, four or five texts saying, like, you know, we've got to do something, you know, and please let me know how it goes. You know, so he supposedly contacts them and he tells me that they said that I need to have proof. Like, I need to have a picture or a video of the bear itself, which, you know, seemed a little strange to me. Kind of didn't believe in. Kind of felt like he didn't really reach out to anybody. It seemed like a cop out. but, you know, I just had to roll with it.

I couldn't, you know, what am I going to do? I, you know, say there's some other evil-looking creature crawling around. You know, I'm going to sound crazy. So, DNR gets supposedly called, and the next night, I guess it's the same day, but it just becomes nighttime. You know, the camera goes off again and detects a movement. It's the same camera, the one that's facing out from the window. and there's just a set of eyes looking from behind a tree.

And you can tell that this thing's standing pretty far back. Now, my camper's up on a hill. It's about at least five feet, you know, from the driveway, higher than the driveway. And this thing was far back, and it was obviously standing, you know, on the driveway area. You know, maybe on the dirt a little further back. I don't know, but it's using the tree, this cover. and it's like somebody that's using a pair of binoculars. You just stand back, find cover, and look.

But the eye art picks up all the eye shine. You know, it's swinging back and forth a little bit, and it picks that up. So if it all goes off, I look at it, I see these eyes. And I'm thinking, you know, are those car lights? Are they neighborhood lights? Well, I have an easy way to answer that. I can just go back and look at what yesterday looked like.

I can go back, you know, a couple hours and see what things looked like, and they're not there. You know, so these eyes are new, and they're just weighing back and forth. And I'm freaked out because this thing's watching. I'm thinking about the thing that was on the roof. I was just a little freaked out. I end up reaching out to the landlord, and I send them pictures. I say, hey, it looks like there's something outside. There's eyes looking, you know, through the camera.

We're at the camera. And he doesn't respond immediately. And I'm just keeping it updated as I'm watching this thing. Because I'm getting a little more frantic and a little more frantic. I'm just freaked out. And he finally responds. I don't remember what he says, but he comes outside. And as soon as he comes outside, this thing bolts.

just gone, just disappears. So I sent him a picture of it gone so I can prove that it was there. And, you know, he doesn't say anything about it. He literally just says nothing. You know, and I'm like, why would you say nothing to that? Just another weird thing. So, you know, that's what happens that night.

I think there might have been something that hit the cabin, like little rocks or, you know, a hand bang. on the back of the trailer it started becoming a pretty ritual to hear the banging at least once. I would hear it at least once. I was starting to triangulate

where things are getting hit. You know, kind of pick up on data because I can hear things walking outside. You know, it's that same steady footstep that's a little too long for a human to do. I've tried walking that same pace and it's awkward. It's not normal. No human's going to

walk like that. It's got to be something. and bigger, you know, now that I look back, you know, I had to be. So the day goes by, you know, I, I am, I'm just a little freaked out. I'm on edge. I'm, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm not sleeping well. You know, the dog, dog started barking. There's a dog on the property. It's chained up, you know, around the corner from the garage over by the side door of this house. It's chained up outside always. It's on like maybe a 20-foot chain at the longest. And it's a big dog. It's a big white dog that could survive in Alaska, you know, the kind of dog that could scare off a bear or that people would use for like bear hunting or something like that.

Big dog. Dog starts going crazy. My cat starts, you know, looking out the window. So I float my camera and I just start filming. There's turkeys wandering around. You know, there's wildlife, you know, in the area. You know, I'm just kind of doing a monologue, talking to myself, you know, trying to calm myself down a little bit, you know, just pointing out facts for some reason. You know, I don't capture anything on film. Nothing happens, but, you know, the dog's freaking out.

And that's not normal. The dog's usually quiet. So the dog's barking at something. And all I can think of is this thing on the roof, the eyes that I saw. It's just weird. Day goes on. Now this time, a footsteps start. It's nighttime.

You know, this is starting to become the nightly routine. But I'm starting to pick up on other things that are going on that I'm just not noticing because I'm not looking for anything. but there is a smell and it smells like feces if I had smelled it before I probably would have just thought it was the RV

but it's the smell that it becomes a little bit stronger. It smells like feces and a little bit like a wet dog. I just start taking note of this smell that's coming when I realize it's happening when the foot fall is happening

and things get banged around, you know, more slapping on the trailer. You know, I don't see anything. Nothing happens on the camera. I'm just starting to take note of what's, what's happening around me and what's happening each night and what's happening that's new. I hear a, I hear what I called it a hoot at the time because it sounded like an owl, or at least that's what I told myself that must be an owl. But it just sounded big. I tell the landlord it sounds like there's hooting outside. You know, he doesn't say anything back.

He's just kind of silent. I'm just kind of updating him on these little things that are going on because I just felt like somebody needed to know what was happening. So I wasn't alone with this situation because there's something going on. You know, I'm definitely freaked out. And I'm starting to pay more and more attention. I'm starting to not sleep all night and then take a little neck. during the day because I'm just too scared to fall asleep at night with whatever this is roaming around outside.

Now this thing walking around, it starts getting close. It starts acting like it knows where I am. It starts coming close to the window on the RV. And it would do like with its teeth, like chomping together. That's what it sounded like. It just sounded like something really big chomping its teeth really hard. and all I'm thinking of is this thing that I saw that was on the roof you know I'm not thinking there's multiple of these things at this point

I'm thinking there's just this one you know I'm starting to hear whistles you know and one night I hear two whistles but they're in different locations you know I'm still getting the bang in on the walls that's still just reoccurring I hear these whistles and I realize there's more than one of whatever these things are because nothing's, it's a different kind of whistle. It's a big whistle. You know, I couldn't make this whistle noise. It sounded like, I don't know, just hollow, but it just sounded big.

I don't know how to explain it. Nights go on. I'm realizing a pattern with these things. They're coming between after midnight and. right before the sun comes up. They're most active between those hours, you know, whatever is going on. It's like they're waiting until a certain time to come mess with the trailer and walk around and stalk me and make weird noises and whistle at each other, to hoot at each other, or, you know, you could call it a whoop, you know, now that I know that I know that word.

And I'm like, okay, something's going on. I think anyone in your position would think, oh, it's got to be people. But when it keeps happening night after night after night and things are getting weirder and weirder and weirder, the whole theory of it's got to be people screwing with me, kind of goes out the window. I wanted to ask you, you'd made a comment about when you were in the trailer, you could almost kind of, it's like they knew where you were at. What did you mean by that?

well they would just they it was like the window was like targeted they wouldn't chomp their teeth over by the side of the RV you know it was like they were making sending some kind of message

when they would get close to me so they'd get by come come by the window and chomp their teeth just like that they didn't do that anywhere else I didn't hear that I didn't hear them doing that constantly it was just when they were by the window You know, and it freaked me out how they knew what, seemed to know where I was. You know, I have, you know, maybe it was my TV that was on.

My windows were covered, but I still had a TV in my bedroom, which put off sound, put off light. My cat would run when my cat would see these things. My cat would run to the room. So maybe they saw my cat running into the room and figured that's where I was. Yeah, I know it's hard to say how they knew you were there, but I wanted to ask you that. I picked up on that when he said it earlier, and you'll hear eyewitnesses talk about these things being on the property. And when they come up to the home, they will, I heard people say, yeah, it came up to the wall in my bedroom exactly where my head was at and started hitting the wall on the outside. And almost like it knew where I was at, where you'll hear.

people in tents where this thing will walk up right up to someone who's laying down right up to their head, almost like they know you're there. It's weird. But forgive me for interrupting. So what's kind of the next series of events that happen? I start hearing talking. You know, it's a little far away. It's down in the draw. There's a draw that goes next to the right side of the driveway or the left if you're coming up. It's the right hand. for me looking down the driveway. I'm hearing talking coming from the draw. It's quiet.

It's a language. I can't tell what they're saying, but it's there. Now I'm trying to think that it's people. You know, I'm starting to do research on Sasquatch and looking into that, you know, on YouTube through various means. But this talking thing happens. And, you know, I don't think Bigfoot can talk. You know, I'm not putting that together.

yet. I haven't heard anything like that yet. So I'm thinking maybe it's people. Maybe this is some elaborate hoax. My landlord, you know, I'm telling him what's going on. I'm texting him. You know, and he's either responding with, you know, like, oh, it could have been this, it could have been that, or he's not responding at all. You know, he was just trying to write it off to or just not respond.

You know, it's just kind of strange. So that starts happening. That's a new thing. There's obviously more than one person or thing there. You know, I'm realizing this now. Lots of wuts and whistles. Lots of gnashing of the teeth. I start hearing this new sound.

It sounds like a gate. It sounds like a gate open, like an old gate, like a rusty gate. This metallic sound. And it starts before everything starts. it's an indicator is what I call it that's going to happen before these things come you know it'll be the gate sound the smell will pick up

I can start hearing like little bits of talking little whistles little whoops you know it's just kind of getting a little closer and a little more intense I guess the next day it starts raining and it's pouring down hard you know it's nighttime It's dark outside. The moon's not out. It is dark and it's raining hard. And I'm, you know, I'm thinking great. It's raining. Whatever this is, isn't going to want to be in the rain.

You know, it's obviously going to bother them. You know, if it's humans, they're not going to want to be out in this rain. It's coming down hard. You know, big raindrops. And I start hearing what sounds like a hammer hitting a rock. and it's just like knock, knock, knock, knock, knock, knock, knock, knock, knock. And I'm like, okay, who's outside working in the rain? Who's, you know, I haven't seen any neighbors at this point. You know, as far as I'm aware, there's one house across the valley that's inhabited, just one, and then there's the landlord, then there's me.

And there's construction workers. You know, they're still around sometimes. They're starting to slow down their work during the day. They're not there at night. You know, something I guess to kind of pause on the rock for a little bit, second, not only remembering. When I first moved up there, the construction workers were talking at the end of the draw, and they kind of seemed to upset.

And they're on my property, you know, technically. So I feel like I have the right to kind of go outside and eavesdrop on what they're saying. So I'm sitting in the chair listening to them. And I hear one of them say something to something like pretty much like, I don't care about killing. I did the same thing in Iraq. You know, and he's worked up. You know, he's upset when he's saying this.

You know, I have no idea what he's talking about. But these men, you know, this group of four men are, they're up. upset. You know, something set them off. And anyway, so I'm taking that in. I end up yelling something over to them. They realize I'm there. They kind of get on with their, you know, what their work and stuff. But the next day I see them on four-wheelers with rifles, mountain on the front, you know, hunting rifles like bolt action. And, you know, I just take note of it. I don't think too much of it. I think it's weird, you know, especially with, I heard, you know, about killing the day before. And these men were visibly upset, you know, and now that I'm in this weird scenario,

it makes a little, you know, I'm thinking maybe they ran into something similar. You know, what if they ran into whatever this is? And whatever, I'm hearing the pounding on the rock. Knock, knock, knock, knock, knock. Rain's coming down really hard. The landlord's not home. He's at his girlfriend's house. I'm there all alone.

You know, besides, you know, half a mile away, there's some neighbors, but I'm not going outside. And I realize it's coming from this rock that I would like to sit on. There's this rock if you walk out from the back of the trailer and you just walk a straight line, like a bee line from the middle of the back of the trailer. You walk straight up the hill. There's a rock that's out of place. It's a decent-sized rock. you know, maybe about the size of three basketballs, you know, and I'm sitting on it one day.

And I just, this is before everything happens. I take a walk up there, sitting on the rock. I just get this overwhelming urge or feeling that I'm being watched and that I'm not safe. And I try to laugh it off, you know, it's whatever, you know. I'm just, I don't know why I feel this way. I don't, I'm not going to think about it. But then it comes on stronger. Like, no, you pay attention.

Like, you need to pay attention to this. You know, my senses are just going off, like, like firecrackers. And eventually it gets to the point where I actually become uncomfortable because of this feeling. Like, legitimately, I'm like, what is going on? Like, why do I feel this way? So, feeling completely absurd by leaving, by standing up and going back to the trailer, I do it anyway, you know, because this feeling is just so strong. And here we are days later, and I'm hearing this rock pounding.

Sounds like it's coming from the sitting rock. And it starts getting faster. And it's so loud. I mean, it's like little gunshots going off. Tach, chack, chack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack, tack. It's been going on for 15 minutes at this point. Straight. I don't even know who has the,

you know, who can even do that for 15 minutes? Well, it goes on for another 30 minutes. In the rain. This is not a human. Nobody can do this. You know, it's just pounding. It sounds like rock to rock at this point. You know, I'm not thinking it's a hammer anymore because no human can be doing this.

It does sound like a rock against rock. And I make up my mind on this, you know, because I'm just trying to understand what's going on. And I'm like, okay, it's got to be one of the, these creatures that are out there that make all the noise and hit the, hit the trailer. What's strong enough to do that? Well, maybe a Sasquatch is strong enough. You know, from what I'm starting to gather from my internet research, you know, I start having, you know, podcasts about people's experiences playing in the background, pretty much 24-7. I'm listening to, I'm just studying, you know, like could this be Bigfoot?

you know and it's got such a strange ugly face that it doesn't look like patty it looks you know as i've heard now like it looks uh what do people call it uh gown syndrome it's got that kind of uncomfortable we look to its face uh which i've heard several times now so it makes a little more sense now at the time i'm like that doesn't look like patty you know how but now that's it's a Now I think of it, these beings, they all freaking look different. And I know that now. None of them look the same. They all look different.

It's like humans. None of us look the same. It's the same for them. They all look different. It's freaking terrifying. This rock thing goes on and eventually stops after 45 minutes. And I'm just in shock because I know no human can do this. It's just not possible.

It's too fast. It went for way too long. you know, it's ridiculous. And I shoot off text to the landlord. Hey, this crazy thing happened that no human can do. It doesn't respond to it. You know, and this is getting ridiculous. So the next day I kind of confront him a little bit.

And I just go, you know, hey, you ever had anything weird happen here before? And he says, no, but my son has. And he doesn't elaborate on what he means. that. And I'm trying to keep it really benign so that he'll say something. I just want something from them about this because he's got to hear these things too. In my mind, they've got to be attacking the house too. Why would they just be focusing on me? Or maybe they are, you know, I just want some kind of confirmation from somebody else that, you know, maybe they're hearing these things too. We get new neighbors that move in. The landlord has a basement

You rent it out. Rinse it out to these ski bums. They got a child. They got a kid. And I know there's weird stuff going on. So I feel a little bit uncomfortable with them moving in. But I'm not going to go, hey, you know, welcome to the neighborhood. Just so you know, there's creatures that are wandering around, you know, banging on things and making weird noises and hoot in each other and whistling each other and having conversations in the draw and walking around,

hanging out on the roof. You should be aware of it. I don't know. I don't know them. They don't know me. They're going to think I'm insane. I've got to build some type of rapport with them before I bring this up. I know I have to, though, because they got a kid.

I don't want the kid outside with these things. It's freaking scary. So neighbors move in. None of this stops. It just keeps happening. It's every night. I'm at a loss of what to do. Now we got these new neighbors, and the days start piling up,

and I'm just taking in more information, and I'm trying to learn more. I just want to know what's going on. I definitely don't want some kid getting hurt, because I'm hearing scary reports sometimes of what these things can do. you know, kids disappearing, missing 4-1-1, you know, as much as I don't want to be a part of that, I don't want some kid being a part of that. So, days go on, and one of the scarier things happens, the camera gets triggered again. I take a look.

I don't, you know, this is late at night, you know, it's like, I think maybe about two in the morning. pretty standard for these things one to two and then from like 6 to 630 they really like those times for some reason they will do other things at other times they really like those times

it's like they're saying hi after midnight and then they're saying goodbye when it's morning always with a good slap so I'm looking at this camera I'm trying to figure out what it's what it picks up on and it does the green box thing kind of zoom in on it

It's a little further back. It's further back than the garage. And I see an upright beam. It's holding onto the tree with its left hand. It opens its mouth. And it looked like it had blood smeared around its lip area. And its mouth was just huge. I just remember thinking my head could fit in there.

It's a clip that just got recorded. So the camera picks up on movement and it records like a 15 second video and then notifies me and I'm watching this 15 second video. Things holding under the tree of its left hand. It opens up the mouth real wide. It's just got its lips. Something's wrong with its lips because they just, you know, it's not in color, but in my brain it's blood.

It's got to have blood around its lips. I'm freaking scared. So my brain immediately goes to its blood. It's got to be blood. Its mouth is so big. This thing is big. You know, the house is next to it. I got a relative idea of how tall this thing is, you know, pretty quickly.

You know, I know how tall that tree is. I take lots of pictures of that driveway area, or at least I did when I first moved in. It launches off the tree. After it opens its mouth, it could have, it's possible that, it made a sound and the camera for some reason didn't pick it up. But, you know, I was asleep, you know, before this happened and woke up, got this, you know, looked at the phone. You know, I'm immediately saying this thing. I just woke up.

You know, I'm scared. I'm thinking my head could fit in there. I see, I see its body. And it just launches. It uses the tree as like a, like a diving board. but like upright and it pushes on the tree and with its legs

it's in like a running position like you're about like you're about to sprint and it just takes off like quick just it's gone just gone it runs backwards across the house you know I dropped my phone Wes

I mean I can't believe what I just saw like I literally can't believe it it's what I'm reading about it's what I'm hearing about besides its face looking all weird It's not the same one I saw on the roof You know, it's different It's got a different face

Its mouth was bitter I just remember how big its mouth Was it just focused in on its mouth It had teeth just normal Normal teeth I didn't notice anything with the canines I just saw a big teeth Like flat teeth

And thinking about how It might feel to get chewed up by it This thing's so big if this is what's next to my window, it all it has to do is reaching and grab me. And I get hit with a realization that I'm in trouble, like, bad. Like, this thing is too big.

I get hit with a ton of bricks, like instantly. And I am so scared. I literally remember thinking, I'm in a horror movie and I'm going to die. This is a real horror movie. Nobody's ever going to know about it, and I'm going to die. I don't know where this thing just went.

And if this is what's been pacing and has been out there, I'm in trouble because it's just too big. Yeah, I was scared out of my mind. At this point, I was literally, you know, I was really afraid I was going to die. I didn't care about recording videos. I didn't care about texting Steve. I, you know, I, I just, the landlord, I just, I was going to die, you know, and it could happen any second. You know, this thing, it, you know, it, it wants me, it knows where I am. It's, it's stalking me, and it's, it's huge. It's just, it was too much at one time. There's no way I can

explain the feeling I felt, but I've never been more scared in my life. So you're watching it through the security system, and how far away from your camper is this thing when it kind of launched from the tree? About 50 yards. That's really close. And you talked about the fear, you know, you'd been in fear this whole time, but this fear was kind of different? It was a fear I hadn't felt before. It was totally primal. And so you're watching it on the, uh,

security system and it launches, was it coming in your direction? I mean, did you get the feeling like it knew that you were watching it? Yep, 100%. I mean, it opened its mouth. It was telling me it was going to eat me. That's what I took from her. And I know that so much has happened over several months, but this particular night when it launched itself and you're seeing this, did anything else happen that night? you know honestly I can't remember I was in a lot of shock I just remember this one event very vividly I don't remember much after you know I was I was sleeping before

I just remember being terrified and not moving I remember being petrified not wanting to breathe you know I was scared it could hear me breathing because it knew where I was if it knew I was in there it could just smash through the window pull me out I'd be done. You know, that's all I could keep thinking about is it knew where I was. It was sending me a signal.

You know, I just, what did I do? It's all just too much at one time. I can't even process it, really. I'm just scared. So you had a six-month lease, and how far are we into that timeline? We're getting close to the three-month mark. So this new reality just kind of opened up to me. I'm frozen, you know, for the rest of the night.

I don't remember anything happened. I just remember being really afraid. Daylight comes, start feeling a little better. I can see the neighbors. They're coming outside. So I'm feeling a little braver, and I go outside. I just want to see how big the tree is. You know, I just want to go look at the tree.

You know, I walked up. tree, you know, it's a decent size. It's a little bit smaller than a basketball round, but, you know, it's a healthy pine tree. I try pushing on it a little bit. You know, it doesn't budge an inch. You know, it's sturdy. You know, this thing, and this thing was up a lot taller than I was where it was holding the tree, you know, so it had a lot more leverage. And, you know, at this point, I'm starting to think I need to leave that I'm not safe there. You know, I have to contract there, but I, you know, I might have texted Steve at this point that I was going to leave, or that I might. You know, I'm just contemplating a little bit too much, you know, and I definitely

don't want to go through another night. As a day kind of goes on, starting to feel a little bit better, you know, I still have work to do, you know, I still got to do my remote job, you know, each day, you know, war night. You know, I'm just trying to do. fit it in. I'm starting to not do a good job at my job, though. And, you know, at that time, I get a new job offer and it pays a lot more. Pay six figures. And I'm thinking, okay, great, you know, I'm going to take this job and move. The job doesn't start for, you know, I was a couple weeks. I'd have been a few weeks at the host. And I'm thinking once I get this money, you know, I'll be set, you know, I've got money saved up.

You know, I'm not too worried, but it'll put me in a spot where I can go, I can move wherever I want, you know, I can get away from this place. And I'm thinking, okay, can I survive here for the time being? And I'm like, I'm thinking I'm psychinged myself out that I can make it through another night. You know, maybe things are going to calm down. Maybe that was the last time this is going to happen. You know, I'm just trying to, trying to bargain. with myself.

Because it's complicated to leave. You know, I've got a cat. I don't know where to go stay. You know, I can't take him to, can't take him to my parents' house. You know, it's a little complicated. And, you know, I'm just thinking a lot. And it starts to become nighttime.

And it, you know, it was a standard night. I got some bangs. You know, they scared me a hell of a lot more. You know, I was still in charge. shock a little bit. You know, I had the, I might have turned the TV on louder, you know, what kind of, you know, this thing knows where I am. I got to send some type of thing back that at least, like, you know, I'm here. I, you know, like I'm not going anywhere, you know, leave me alone. I'm trying to think of what can I do to make, just go away. I got to do

something different. You know, by this time, you know, I put up shirts and blankets. and jackets over all the windows. They're completely shut. I'm trying to get so there's no light coming in because I don't want these things peeking through the window and knowing where I am because they could reach through and grab me at any time. You know, I'm really closing up.

I start to build a barricade in case it comes through the door. You know, I've got a rifle. You know, I'm sleeping with this rifle now. Night goes by. I just had it's a good idea to go outside and let off the rifle. just to let it know I have a rifle, you know, kind of my show of force, you know,

because it's complicated to move and I'm trying to bargain and I'm trying to think I can, I can control the situation a little bit. So I shoot the rifle into a pile of firewood. It's loud. You know, whatever these things are, you know, they've heard it at this point. I know they're watching me. You know, I can feel them when I'm outside. the daytime. You know, it's really constant. I just feel like I'm being watched 24-7 at this point.

Like, there's no time that's safe now. And that starts to become true. Like, literally, they start coming around in the daytime. They start throwing pebbles in the daytime. Little Rocks, their show of forest, like, hey, we're here during the daytime. You know, I can hear the chatter and the bushes. It's like, you know, I had this feeling that they were hiding in specific, specific areas. So I start making maps and I'm sending them over to the landlord. I'm like, hey, there's something going on here.

Here's where it's happening. Just so you're aware, keep your eye out. You know, there's this bush here. They're hitting the trailer on the site here. You know, I hear lots of whistles and whoops coming from up here. I hear them whooping and whistle and back from over here. You know, I'm using Google Earth.

you know, I'm just trying to do whatever I can to kind of control this situation. At least feel like I'm in control of it. But when nighttime comes, I know I'm not in control at that point. You know, I can be a little bit braver in the daytime. Even though they're starting to throw pebbles, you know, and I'm starting to hear the same sounds, lots of rustling too. So they're getting a little bit more bold. I'm pretending to be a little bit more brave.

but when nighttime comes, I'm not. I go right back to this place of terror, you know. And then the morning comes, and I try to bargain with myself again. You can make it through another day. You just got to make it to this date. And then you can leave if you really want to. If this doesn't stop, you can leave. Nighttime comes, I'm going to get eaten.

You know, there's more than one of these things. They're talking. They're whistling. They're whooping. and it's back and forth. By the time I've triangulated, there's at least three of them. I know there's at least three. I don't know why this is so hard you talk about.

It's in the bedroom. It's nighttime. You know, I'm not looking at my cameras anymore. They go off. I'm not even looking. I don't want to see anything. I do not want to see this thing again. So I don't care what's on the cameras.

I have completely ditched them. I'm not using them anymore. You know, I know. I know that these things are nasty. They're scary. They're big. You know, I don't want them around. I don't want to be around them.

I don't want to even acknowledge they exist. I'm in my room and I'm on the bed. And I hear it's late at night. You know, it's got to be getting close to six. You know, they're one of their favorite activity times. I don't know how they have a walk. watch, but they must. They've must got some really good internal clock. You know, it's or it's just, I don't know, it's just like they know, they know the time really well.

They're very smart. They can talk to each other. So I hear and I feel, I'm not sleeping at night anymore. Now I'm fully awake. I'm on alert. you know, I built a spear out of a, you know, a really collapsible, uh, snow thing for your car, kitchen knife and some gorilla tape, you know, because I figure I've got,

I'll have to use a spear to stop them, use the rifle to shoot them. If they, if they try to break in or get through the window, you know, I, I, I'd ask the landlord to pick up bear spray.

I'm not leaving the trailer anymore. You know, watch. And so I had this bear spray that I had previously asked me to pick up. And I've got it on me 24-7. I've got a plan to use my Apple Watch. I know how many times I need to press it to do the emergency SOS. You know, I'm practicing flicking off the thing off the bear spray. I'm practicing getting my rifle up real quick and putting the spear down in an angle and, you know, holding it against my bed. so it's nice and strong. I put a plate up against the door. So if anything opens it, the plate's going to fall, it's going to shatter.

You know, if I accidentally fall asleep, it'll wake me up. You know, my mind these things are going to come through it whenever they want. So I start hearing, you know, something on the other side of the window. As in, I feel it too. It doesn't feel good. any of the feeling when I was sitting up on the rock, it's a lot stronger. You know, something was, something was really wrong. I'm not using my camera, my, my, my, my, IR camera anymore.

I don't want to look at it. And I decided to stick my cell phone up between the blind, the, the, the shirt that I put up, and take a, a long exposure photo. So it's going to take a seemingly like a lot of photographs at one time and then compile an image of what it takes. Kind of like when you take a picture of the moon, you have to take multiple pictures of it

and I compile them together to get a good picture. So from my understanding, that's what my phone's doing. I stick it up there and I click it, you know, and I feel like there's two things out there. I feel like there's two things. that they're fighting, like, or that they're arguing. This is, I'm totally feeling it. I can't see it.

I just feel it. I can't explain it. It's just super weird, but I feel that there's these two things there. So I take the phone, put it under, I take the picture, and I pull it down, and it's not what I expected to see. I expected to see one of the Sasquatch beings. You know, these creatures, whatever they are, it's a wolf. You can see the punch on its back. You know, the picture is a little bit blurry, you know, because it was shaking.

You know, I'm shaking while it's taken the multiple pictures. So it's kind of got a grain to it. But you can make out a smile. You can see the teeth. You can see something dripping, you know, from its mouth. You know, a lot of something dripping. You know, I can't make out any eyes that I can make out an ear. And it's a wolf, but it's got a hunchback.

And where it's standing, it's got to be tall. It's got to be standing on two legs. And unless it's got really long four legs, which I doubt, I don't believe what I'm saying. You know, at this point, I just don't even, I don't believe what I'm saying. Because I'm having a hard time. I'm having a hard enough time with what I've already seen, let alone one of these dog things.

I hadn't heard of dog men yet. I didn't know what those were. I just see what looks like a wolf. I have no idea what to do at this point. Nobody's going to believe me. I just keep thinking, no one's going to believe this. No one's going to believe this. You know, this thing's outside.

And I think it's fighting with something. But all I could get was like a picture of some white light that was standing between this wolf creature in my window. It's just a little bit of white light. You know, it could have been for me shaking, to be quite honest. That's what I think it is. That's what I really think it is. Just knowing that this thing is out there is a little too much. You know, I'm not going to use the phone again as the camera.

I don't want to see nothing. You know, I'm going to die. and it's going to come when I least expect it, no matter how prepared I feel like I am for the attack that I feel is impending. You know, the slaps are still happening. All the noises are still happening. You know, but it's ramping up during the daytime. It's starting to, the trailer's starting to get slapped in broad daylight.

It's like they know I'm not using the cameras anymore. It's like they, it's like they're reading my brain. it's like they know I'm not using the cameras, which I'm not. I'm not looking at anything anymore. I don't want anything to do with this. So I'm scared, stifeless. I'm back to not moving an inch, not breathing, or trying not to breathe or breathing as slow as I can.

I don't want to make a sound. I'm not leaving the bedroom because it's barricaded. I brought in some firewood and I taped it together to make some big blocks that I could put in the doorway and move some stools in the way. You know, I made sure the cat, I put the stool at the bottom of the barricades so that the cat could go underneath the hole in the stool. But I'm really, I'm closing up. You know, I'm just eating peanut butter because I can eat peanut butter and not leave the room. I'm peeing in bottles. I'm not going number two, and I'm not leaving that area.

You know, day comes, next day, daylight comes. These things are getting more bold. They're flapping the trailer more and more during the day. I'm getting a little more frantic. I'm sending more messages to the landlord. Like, hey, you know, you got to come out here. You know, something's going on. And it starts like a new routine of him coming outside or him flying home in his car to rescue me.

This new routine happens for about a week of where I need him to rescue me from these things. Because they react to him. They're scared of him for some reason. They run away when he shows up. They're not scared to me, but they're scared to him. I don't know why. But they leave when he's around. And he's acting like he knows what I'm talking about without saying.

it because he he's acting like it's urgent to be there like it's urgent to come out of the house that it's urgent to come home he's flying up the road he's flying up the driveway it's like he knows what's happening it's super strange night time comes my cat's being curious and venturing out of the bedroom which i don't like because i can't really protect it out there but i'm watching it because, you know, the whole time the cat will indicate kind of where these things are a lot of the time. You know, not even to mention the dog, how crazy the dog, the dog is going off all the time. You know, it's going off in the daytime. It's going off. The nighttime is barking, bark and barking.

I'm yelling. You know, in the daytime, I would yell. I'd feel, you know, bold enough to yell and I'd yell at the dog. Like, it's okay. It's okay, Shione. It's okay. You know, I know that she's, she's saying something scary. I know that she's scared, you know, and I feel bad with the dog. And I've got these neighbors. And when this wolf thing happens, I've got, I've had enough, I've got to tell them. I've got to tell them something. Because whatever that thing is, it's evil. You know, it's not, it's not like one of these things. It's like a, you know, it's like from hell. It's like a demon. You know, and that's what I'm thinking. It's,

is. And, you know, I keep thinking about this missing 401 thing that I'm learning about and these kids that are going missing. So I write up a message to the neighbors. I tell them, don't let your kids go outside anymore. I'm seeing something outside. I'm seeing a big figure. You know, it's stalking around, stalking around outside during the day and nighttime now. You need to be aware of it. You know, so I send a message, you know, I'm like, they're going to think I'm nuts. Well, it's about, you know, just a few days later they move. You know, I don't know what happened or if they were just scared of me from my message, but they just get up and move overnight.

And, you know, I don't even, you know, like they did it when I was asleep, I think, so it wasn't technically overnight during the day when I was, you know, falling asleep when I didn't want to, you know, like I'm getting. getting so tired that I'm starting to fall asleep and I'm not realizing it. And they move. And I text them. You know, we had built up a rapport, you know, at this point, you know,

where I felt like I could text them, you know, whatever. You know, I still think they're going to think I'm nuts, you know, but I had to say something. And I asked them, hey, they're like, what's up? Because they've moved for the ski season. The ski season's not over. It's towards the end, but it's not over yet. there's still lots of snow in the in the in the canyons and he's like yeah yeah we decided to move to florida

you know and and that's all he that's all he said that's all he was going to say meanwhile things are just ramping up gosh i'm sweating bricks oh holy crap uh so night time comes neighbors have moved a message in the landlord like hey this is so strange the neighbors was caught up and moved What do you think about that? You know, I'm just trying to get information out of him. I feel like he just knows something. The way that he's acting, he's taking any serious. You know, he's taking me very serious and he's protecting me.

You know, and I'm thanking him for doing so. You know, he's answering my prayers. You know, and whatever these things are, they haven't attacked through the trailer yet. And I'm starting to think it's almost like an invisible barrier, but I'm still really scared. you know, the last thing that sets me off, and I don't know why this set me off so much. You know, it's nighttime. I mean, really quiet. You know, I'm just trying not to make noise like usual. I'm letting whatever happens happen. And just to be quiet, you know, they're going to come by the window.

They're going to stalk. They're going to make their noises. They're going to hit things. You know, but it's quiet this night. They're not doing much. and you know I don't remember what time it was it was it was either it was one other times it was either early in the morning I think it might have been early in the morning because I started getting ready to me but anyway um I'm laying there really quiet and I hear I hear this just these loud footsteps just one two three boom boom boom boom and this thing's right up next to the window and it's going it's hot and puffing and it's tall. I've never heard lungs like this. It's just sucking in air, like, but it's so big, it's so much air. The amount of air was just, I couldn't, it was too much, you know, it was just so big, and I knew how big these things were. Um, this one just sounded massive,

you know, just unreal, uh, just the amount of air. Um, uh, it's making like kind of gruny. Something sounds like, you know, I'm hearing it. It just sets me off. It puts something in me, you know, that primal fight or flight kicks in and I'm done. I'm out. You know, I'm done. This thing's going to kill me if I don't go. This is the feeling I'm getting.

It's putting off a feeling, man. It's telling me to freaking leave. It's going to do something about this if I don't leave. it's going to do something. You know, it's freaking pissed, and I don't know why. I don't know why it's so pissed off, but it's freaking pissed. And it's letting me know.

And I can't stay there anymore. So, you know, this thing stays there for quite some time. And then it goes around the back of the trailer. And I've got this, it's a panel that when you're pulling the trailer,

it's a panel that comes down and it blocks the window from rocks coming up and shattering it. This thing's shaking this thing like it's trying to open it. I know it's big enough that it can, but it's shaking it. It's like, you know, I'm just waiting for it to open it and kill me or take me away. You know, that's my biggest fear that I'm going to get dragged away and it's shaking it. You know, it wants to get in. It knows it knows that it can see me if it opens, this thing. It knows I can see it if it opens this thing. And it's shaking it. And not, you know,

there's nothing I can do about it. Uh, and, you know, I, I'm just, I'm just scared, man. Uh, uh, and eventually it stops and it walks away and daylight comes. And I, I pack things up. I'm done. You know, I, uh, go online. I find a hotel. I call, I ask for the top floor. You know, I don't want to be on the, I don't want to be on the ground floor. I find a, I find a hotel in Provo. You know, I don't care how much it costs at this point. You know, it's a nice hotel.

And I just book it. And, but my fear is, is these things are outside in the daylight now. You know, they're on the other side of the trailer. They're hanging out on the side that's away from the door. Because when Steve comes out, they book it. and I start packing bags. I pack a suitcase, a backpack, cat supplies, and I put them in its litter box.

And so I've got the cat thing. I've got the backpack, my suitcase, and then I've got the cat, and I've got my rifle. You know, I've got to take the rifle out with me, and they've got to know I have a rifle that I can get to. If they're watching me, they've got to know that I have something to defend myself with. I just feel like they'll respect that for some reason,

or at least be a little bit afraid, you know, because maybe they're watching when I shot it is what I'm thinking. So I'm starting to make this plan to skate. I figure I can't go like one, come back, two, come back, three, come back, you know, because they'll catch on. If I do that twice, they might catch on the third time. So I've got to time it, you know, awkwardly. So, and I don't want to see these things.

You know, if I see one face-to-face, I'm going to die. I'm going to freeze. I'm not going to be able to move, and they're going to take me away. And I know they're there. You know, they're making noises. I know they're on the other side. And I take the first load out. I've got my head facing down.

the ground. I've got to walk down some wooden steps. My car's right there. You know, the first load I take is with the gun. I'm holding the rifle. And I put in the trunk. I go back in the trailer and I wait. Take the next load. You know, after some time past, they got my head down. They're making noise. They're starting to make a lot of noise now. Like, you know, they're hooting. They're, they're whooping. You know, they're making a little bit of a racket. I can hear moving back and forth, pacing back and forth. Like, they're getting excited. They're excited. That's what they're, that's, you know, they're, they don't normally act like this. I've got one last load. It's my cat. And this is the one that I'm most scared

about. And I'm so scared that they're going to hurt my cat. Because, you know, this cat means a lot to me. You know, it's my best friend. If I lose this cat, I'm done. You know, I can't, I just come out of that hard relationship. You know, I just wanted to peace. I can't lose my cat. I'm fucking scared. Sorry. So I take the cat and I get him in the car.

And I really, you know, at this point, my head goes up and I realize the landlord's outside. The landlord must have seen these things because the dog is going crazy. So, you know, real crazy. You know, he must come over to the window and seeing these creatures lying the trailer because you could see him from inside the house. You know, you could see them back there. He must have seen him because he, gosh, I just got scared of my chair. He, uh, he must have seen these things because I'd never seen him do this before, but he brings out a big motorcycle. He starts revving the engine, you know, he's making as much noise as he can, you know, because he sees me or he sees these

creatures. He's trying to get him to go away is what I'm, what I'm, what I think he's doing or trying to put up cover so I can get out of there. I don't know what he's doing. He's making a lot of noise. There's no reason for him to be making all this noise other than these creatures are making more of a racket than they ever have, you know, especially during the daytime. And I see the landlord, you know, he waves at me. Like, like, and he gives me this smile like, hi, awkwardly, uh, you know, like, I, I see you're leaving, you know, uh, I know why. And, you know, like, I don't know what to say.

And he's revving the engine. And I'm backing out. Start to back out. He stops revving the engine. You know, and as I'm backing out and getting close to the dirt road, he runs up the steps that I came down and runs around the backside of the trailer. And he peeks, he leans sideways, and he peeks over, and he's looking back there. I don't, you know, either he's looking at these things, these creatures, these big foot, these Sasquatch, you know, or they've run off. I don't know what he's doing. I don't give a crap anymore. I'm getting out of there. I'm not coming back. You know, I'm done. Oh, gosh, I forgot to tell you one thing. The two nights before, so before the big guy was at the window, my cat was at the window. And he had, he had, he's, he, he's, he, he's, he, he's, he,

It stuck his head underneath the blinds and the shirts that I put over the kitchen window where the camera is. So he goes over to the camera window. They like to come over to the camera window because they want to see what the camera is, is my guess. But they come over there a lot, especially at night. And my cat's really curious. Sometimes he gets scared of these things. He actually, you know, he does. He acts a little scared.

But he's curious. He's a cat, you know. and you know he goes to the window and I just hear this like oh gosh there's no way I can make this sound like ooh like ooh like but excited like an excited sound and it's a big sound you know it's like big vocal chords it's a the tone sounds like a human female you know it just it just sounds like a female, but big. Like a, it's louder. You know, it's like almost like you can feel the vibrations and they make this noise.

And my cat's, my cat's just staring. I'm getting, I just freak out, you know, like, are they going to grab my cat? Is that dessert? You know, because that's like a sound you make when they bring dessert out and it looks really good. That's all I'm thinking. So I'm calling for my cat because I got this barricade in the way. I can't just run out and grab my.

the cat. You know, and I'm feeling a little stupid at the moment because of that. But, you know, my cat jumps down, comes back over, he runs back over to me. And I'm just holding on to it. And I'm, you know, you know, thinking I almost just lost it. The sound, I mean, it was just, it was the dessert sound, you know. I'll never forget this, this oo sound, though. I can, I can hear it today, clear as day. You know, it's been too. years and I can still hear it clear as day this oo sound I'll never forget the ooh sound um it was more amazing it was part part of I was just amazed by the fact that it sounded like a human female which made it a little less scary if that makes any sense um because my brain was like

oh it must be a woman out there there's a there's a it's a person you know it's trying I know it's not a person, but my brain's playing tricks because it's just scared. It's doing circles. But the oo sound. Yeah, I'll never forget the ooh sound. Um, back out of the driveway, I go to the hotel. Um, I check in, you know, I told, I told the person at the front desk about my cat and they told me to just not leave a mess and to not let anyone see me bring it in. So I'm really careful when I bring it in. And I finally, I find, I'm not completely at ease. I'm really not, you know, because I don't know if these things really are.

You know, they, you know, they could do things and be places and make sounds. And I'm on edge still. You know, I'm on edge to this day. I think about this every day. There's not a day that goes by. I don't think about this. I never went back. You know, I never went back.

I left all my stuff there. I left computers there, you know, really expensive TVs. I left everything there. And I didn't give a crap. I wasn't going back. I was going to give up, you know, thousands of dollars of cameras, PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X. You know, I had everything.

I didn't give a crap. I wasn't going back. I never did. I could keep going on. You know, but from here on, I just, I'm just trying to, I'm trying to cope with it, really. It doesn't happen again. Once I left the area, it stopped. It did stop.

I was on edge, like, you couldn't imagine. I hear a noise. I would think these things were back, and I have to calm down. I mean, I had real PTSD. Or you're talking about, like, in the hotel now. Yeah, you know, in the hotel and after, you know. So from the hotel and onwards, I'm just, I'm in shock. I don't believe it.

I don't know how to explain it. I don't know how to, you know, I've got some some some some some evidence, you know, of what it occurred that I could use to show people and explain to people that, you know, I'm not crazy. This did happen. Gosh, I'm sweating so much. Yeah, it's an emotional rollercuster, man. I get it. And you know, when you recount what happened to you, you really do go back into that moment. And I really didn't want to interrupt you. I tried to interrupt as little as possible and kind of let you just kind of get through it. I wanted to ask you, you had a six-month lease. And how long were you there before you're like, hey, I'm out of here. I'm done with this. I was there about three months. three months and you'd mention the smell you know you could smell these things when they came around how often would you smell that smell oh every time every time it was one of the ways i knew they're

around little that they were coming you know they would show up you know they they weren't just there they would still they still had to come from wherever they were hiding or whatever they were doing it you know i i've got some hot spots and where i kind of know where they were uh just through photography. But, yeah, no, I always smelled it. It wasn't, I was in a trailer. I know that it would have been a stronger smell if I was outside. It just smelled like human crap and, like wet dog.

The other thing I wanted to ask you is you'd mention this gate sound. You know, you'd heard this gate, kind of this metal sound going off. In that area, was there a gate nearby? Nope. I looked, I looked for a gate, you know. No, I know, no gates. You know, I've known on Google. I was looking for the gate.

You know, this gate sound was so weird to me, man. It was a metallic sound. You know, I heard so many weird sounds less. There's no way I could explain them all. Yeah, you'll hear them mimic sounds or people report these things making sounds like animals or sometimes even people. They'll call people's names. What's weird is metallic sounds or metal sounds gets reported as well.

I know Ron Moorhead with the Sierra sounds told me that years and years and years ago. When they were up there, they would hear weird sounds like car doors being opened or, you know, just odd things that weren't there. You know, there's no way that sound. It just kind of came out of nowhere. You know, your landlord, that guy knows something. I mean, he was not straightforward with you at all. Just from hearing you recount what happened, he knew much more of what was going on.

What's your take on that guy? You know, for a long time, I thought he set me up as bait. Like, to get these things away from his house. He used me as bait. You know, but he did come out to protect me, you know, several times, you know. He knew they were there. You know, he just wouldn't. admit it. You know, believe it or not, about three or four days ago, I sent him a text. I said,

hey, if you ever want to go out to lunch sometime and talk about this, what did I say? Let me read the text. What did I say to him? Where is it? I here it is. So if you ever want to get lunch sometime, I would enjoy couching up and talking about old times if you're ever interested. You know, no response back. Yeah, just his overall reaction to the whole situation. And I don't know that he set you up as bait because he did come and try and help you every time. And he was never like, you know, you're insane. There's nothing going on here. But in the same breath, he never really addressed it either.

But he did come. It makes you wonder who was living there before you and how soon before they left? Oh, so get this, he moved. He moved because he sent me to text saying, what do you want to do with all your stuff? You know, I'm moving. I told my mom, I was like, hey, I'm going to lose all this stuff. I don't give a crap, I'm not going back.

And my mom was like, that's ridiculous. You can't just leave that stuff, you know? And I was like, yeah, I can't. I definitely can. because I'm never going back there. And I don't want you going back. I don't want anyone going up there. Yeah, it's fear that sets in.

I mean, you'll hear of people running into these creatures, like, at a campsite, and they'll leave everything. They could care less, and they're out of there. And, you know, until you're in that moment, you don't realize this is all, I mean, you're terrified, and rightly so. I would have been absolutely terrified in your situation. And, you know, when I look at the old. overall behavior of these things, it's strange because you know as well as I do, they could have

came in that camper, killed you, killed your cat, and there's really nothing you could have done about it. You weren't going to stop them, even if you had your rifle, and it isn't going to happen. There's no one that's going to stop them, but they don't. And the weird part is they keep coming up to your camper tormenting you. I know that you don't know, and I don't know, but What do you make of that behavior of just tormenting you? I don't know. I mean, one thing I can think of is my relationship with Christ and God was starting to ramp up, you know, at that time. And during that time, you know, just the fact that these things existed made me think that God existed more.

Not to bring religion so much into this, but I was praying every day all the time. all the time I'm praying, you know, so many prayers. You know, I'd see, I'd see a shoulder, a head, and another shoulder, you know, this is before I closed everything off and made a cage for myself. You know, I saw one of these things laying down, laying down about 100 yards out, right in the tree line, laying down on its stomach watching me. I just dropped to the ground and started praying. You know, I just prayed.

got up, it was gone. I don't know how much that affected these things, but it was like the more I prayed, the more they were attacking me. It's just a thought. I could be completely wrong, but that's just one thing. They were tormenting me. There's no doubt. They wanted me gone. That's the feeling I got. They wanted to be gone. They didn't want me there. I don't know why. Maybe I scaring off the game, because there are game animals all over. They stopped being there. You know, once that wolf thing showed up, they never saw another animal around ever, ever. Yeah, I wanted to ask you about this wolf thing that you saw.

And, you know, there's nothing wrong with your belief in God. There's nothing wrong with, this world's a bad place, man. This world's a bad place. The most powerful man I ever met said one time, I asked him, you know, what do you, because this guy wasn't scared of anyone or anything. I said, you know, what are your,

afraid of, and he said separation from God. That's all he said. And I'm telling you, this guy was like the most powerful man I've ever met. The wolf that you saw, was it on two legs? Yeah, it had to be. From where it was, there was a five-foot berm. It was standing at the bottom of the five-foot berm from where the picture was taken and where I was hearing the sounds. I knew where it was. I knew where it was standing. I knew where I felt like I knew where they both just from the sounds that I was hearing, you know, a little bit of grunting, a lot of rustling, you know, like feet on the pavement. It was standing just at the edge, you know, like about to come up the hill. So I'm kind of looking, I'm almost looking at it straight in the face, but a little bit

downwards. You know, it had to be about 90 feet tall, about 9 feet. More often than not, you'll hear from eyewitnesses when they run into this canine-like creature, and they'll say it's evil. Everything about it was evil. And, you know, sometimes you hear that about Sasquatch, but, you know, when it comes to this canine, it seems like people say what you said. You know, this thing was evil. And, you know, these creatures were obviously tormenting you. and I wanted to ask you this, because, again, I know that you don't know and I don't know,

but their reaction when the landlord showed up, they would flee. They would take off. What do you make of that? I think they knew him. I think he had some kind of relationship with them, like some kind of deal. Or maybe he from the get-go was, because my, I froze. you know, I froze that whole time. I had no fight response to this at all.

You know, I knew there was nothing I could do. I knew that shooting them wouldn't do crap. They were too big, way too big. You know, that 30-calibular rifle is not going to do crap. You know, nothing, absolutely nothing. You know, unless I got it right in the head and it didn't glance off the skull, you know, maybe right through the eye socket is the only way. And I'm not that good of a shot.

You know, that rifle wasn't zeroed that well. just had a little red dot on it. I'm sorry, I kind of went off there. You're okay, man. So you think he was maybe feeding them or something like that? Something. I don't know. I think he, because I froze, I think he went on the attack.

I think he ran up them. He must have rushed them the whole time. Like he, I set a tone where I wasn't going to give in to their fear tactics. And they would just ramp it up, man. They just ramped it up and ramped it up. Where, you know, I just didn't react. They wanted a reaction. Like when they saw my cat and they made the oo sound, like they finally got some kind of reaction out of one of us.

You know, like they were so happy about seeing the cat. That female was so happy. And she was standing so close. Oh, man. Yeah, the landlord, I think he must have just had an intent. Hence relationship, or from the get-go, he said no, you know. And they, so because he did that, he set the tone. I set the tone of, you're not going to scare me, no matter what you do.

I'm not going to react. You know, go for it. Because I wasn't going to do nothing. I couldn't. I was frozen. I was terrified. I think he just saw them. He must have seen these things differently.

been as afraid of them as I was because he had no problem opening the door and they'd take off. He had no problem rushing home from his girlfriend's house, you know, rushing coming up the stairs, you know, going to where the dog is, you know, where they could see him, they'd just take off. I don't think they were scared of him. I just think it was like a game. They were playing a game. I think they had a game with me, scaring me, and they had a game with the landlord of you know, catch us. Yeah, you might be on to something there. This other guy doesn't run.

Not that they're terrified of them, but things get out of hand pretty quick when someone doesn't run away. You know, I know that you don't know, and I don't know, but why do you think they never came in the trailer for all this torment? Oh, gosh, I don't know.

I've thought about this so much. I don't know if it was God-protecting me, I don't know if they have a rule. Because I've listened to so many stories now at this point where they don't come in to these places, where they try, they shake doors, they bang on doors, you know, they bang on windows. They never get in. In like the Hanobia case, they never went inside the house, you know. They were tormenting him too, but he went on the attack, you know, like Steve did. Or the landlord, Steve.

It's crazy stuff, man. Like they have a rule? I don't know. It's like part of the game. Yeah, what happened to you, Jerry, happens to a lot of people that have these things on their property. And it is weird. I mean, they'll come up, bang on a door, rattle the door handle, but they never come inside the home, which is, it's odd. And I do think that there is a set of rules.

I got a crazy theory about a set of rules. and what I actually think these things are. But if I'm wrong on what I think they are, then the set of rules theory goes out the window. It is weird, though, that they don't come into the home, but they'll torment the hell out of you outside of your home. I wanted to ask you about the canine, and I'm trying to think about how to ask this question.

So the canine creature, when it showed up, did you get the impression? trying to think I'd ask this. Like they were working together or was it the opposite and there was contention between these two creatures, entities.

Yeah, no, I totally understand what you mean. This is something that's racked my brain all the time. It's possible that they were working together and they suck it. It's like their pet or something. They said, go get.

him, you know, like it's possible. I know that I thought there was another creature out there with him. You know, from the sound I heard, it sounded like there was another one with him. I just didn't see him. He wasn't in the picture. Or they were kind of arguing. Like one was saying, like, no, this is my kill. This is my game.

Go away. You know, it's one of those two things I feel like. Yeah, and the impression I get, I mean, and you were scared when these other, the Sasquatch creatures were around. I mean, you're obviously terrified. And like I said before, anyone who says they're not terrified is probably lying to you. But when this canine showed up, I get the impression like you were more terrified of this canine. Mm-hmm.

But in a different way. It was so different. It was like, like, Sasquatch is like a primal fear. This guy is an evil fear, like a demon, like a real freaking. like from hell. Like these are hellhounds. I don't, you know, I don't know what these things are,

but it's an evil feeling. It's different. The Sasquatches that you saw, and you did a pretty good job earlier, you'd mention how they all kind of look different. I wanted to ask you, when you were looking at them in any glances you got of the face

and just overall appearance, did you get the feeling like it was more man or man-like? Or did you get the feeling like, It was an animal. Oh, it's it. It depends on which one I'm talking about. The one that launched off the tree, his body looked more human.

He had less hair. You know, I heard somebody say that one of the creatures they saw had mange. That's what this guy looked like. It looked like he had mange. You know, he had little patches of hair, you know, but he was missing a lot on his chest and on his arms and on his legs. but he had he had a lot of hair on his shoulders and on his head and around his head like around wrapping around his chin and it would stick straight out he his body looks looked a lot like a human athlete yeah like a really strong athlete there's no fat you can see all his muscles really defined the big one that I got a picture of you know shoulder height to the house, you know, staring me down when I had the camera in his face,

when I didn't see him there, when he was staring me down. That guy, I would say, is a little bit more primate. He looks a lot hairier, you know, you know, a little bit of wire nose. He still got, he looks more like a mix, like right in the middle between like an eighth and a human. The one that was on the roof, you know,

I just got a good, I didn't see it. body at all. I saw, I didn't even get the definition of his arm. His arm was a blur, you know, because the rain drop was coming down. But, you know, his face looked nothing like a human face, you know, besides the fact that he had a mouth, the nose, and eyes, it didn't look anything like a human face. The launching Sasquatch off the tree, he had a Down syndrome face like you couldn't imagine. It almost makes me wonder if these creatures do have some type of down syndrome. I've heard that so much.

Or maybe it's a lot of inbreeding, but they've got that look of either Down syndrome or inbreeding. Yeah, there's more eyewitnesses that say that than I think people realize and, you know, kind of having that look and, you know, I'll get crap from people. They'll be like, I'm never listening to your show. Again, my child has Down syndrome. no one's making fun of Down syndrome. I mean, how people get from point A to point B always baffles me.

It's a way of describing it. It's something comparable that people can understand. So if you're going to email me, go ahead and hold off because I'm probably not going to read the whole thing. No one's making fun of people with Down syndrome by any means. It's such strange behavior because, you know, if they really wanted to hurt you, they would have. But instead they're just going to sit and torment you, you know, almost like entertainment. I ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is? And I'm very curious on how you're going to answer this.

But what do you think that they are, Jerry? And there's no wrong answer, of course. I've got two theories that I'm working on. You know, the one thing that strikes me really hard is that primal fear. It's not a fear that I've ever felt before. it's like a memory. It's like an inherited memory from our ancestors. That's what it freaking feels like.

It feels so inherent to be absolutely terrified of these things. Like it's built into our DNA that if we see one of these things, that it's the ultimate fear of you could be eaten. Like that's the kind of fear that you're going to hit. At least I believe, and I've heard a few times at least. And, you know, if that's an inherited trait, does that go back to our ancestors? And did they just experience these things enough? Because we've heard about stories, you know, from like the 1800s talking about these things.

They've been around forever, you know. It's not new. These things are not new. They're not genetic hybrids. They've been around for a long time. it's possible that they're Nethling, that they're the ancestors of the Nethlyn. That's one guess,

or I saw a picture, there's a picture of Gigantipithecus, and this guy built it in his backyard, like a version of what it could look like. He built it in his backyard. It looks like the giant one next to the house. it looks so much like it. This one that this guy created

and has in his backyard, a 3D model of giganticus. It's not the crummy-looking one that looks kind of crappily made. It's like a really well-built one. It looks like the big guy. It looks like I'm guessing the alpha

of all these creatures because it was so freaking big. I can only assume he must be in charge. He had a female with them. You can see your breasts in the picture. Once you see it, you don't, once you see it, you'll see it. It's kind of crazy how well they can camouflage that they're invisible and they're in front of you. But I think it's either giganticus ancestor that's been around for a very long time or it could be related to the Nephilim. I guess it's a third possibility is that it's just its own thing and it's been around for a long time. You know, that's also possible. If I had to lean towards one, just because of the primal fear,

I'd probably go with the Nephilim theory because it's so primal. And when you read in the Bible, and they talk about feeling like a grasshopper when they saw these things, that's so you feel. You feel completely helpless. And it's so primal.

You know, they just described it so well. The ones they describe sound bigger. That's why I think it's offspring, you know, or a relative, you know, even if you want to look at the Bible as like a weird history book, you know, teach their own. Yeah, the book of numbers, chapter 13. And if you've ever encountered one of these things, I mean, when the Israelites were saying, hey, we felt like grasshoppers, you do kind of feel like an insect in front of these things. I don't know if we're comparing apples to apples, but after encountering one of these creatures, you get completely what. they were saying in numbers. I want to ask you, why do you think that they were on this property? Because it doesn't sound like they ever left.

Okay, this one's cool. So this place where I lived, it's called Sulphur Springs. There's a sulfur spring on the property. That's one thing that's unique about it. And right where the sulfur spring starts, it's a culvert. They paved the road over it. And it's right at the end of the driveway. So there's this really big attraction of a sulfur spring right there on the property at the house.

The whole area is called sulfur springs, the valley. They might have another name for it. I just can't remember. But when you look at it on Google Earth and you zoom in on it, he'll just say sulfur spring and it'll pinpoint it. I started thinking, okay, well, that's a unique thing. Has this happened in other places? So I just Google search Sasquatch, Silver Spring, Silver Springs maybe, and boom, like all the top ones, it's like, boop, bo, bo, pop, bo, pop, pop, pop, pop, is Sasquatch in Sulphur Spring? Is Sasquatch at the Sulphur River?

Is Sasquatch it's sulfur, sulfur, Sasquatch? And I was like, oh my gosh, there's a connection. This doesn't, maybe, and that took me two years to figure that out. You know, I think about this every day, you know, and it's, it's taken me two years to even come to turn. arms with it. Um, that they did happen. I'm not crazy. Even though I have all this evidence, you know, you can't tell anyone about it to be quite honest. If they, if they haven't seen these things and they don't know they're real, they're never going to understand. Um, thankfully there was one person in my life, uh, who her, her dad, he interacted with these things. Um, or no,

was her grandfather, he interacted with a troop of them, you know, on a regular basis. And when I told her about the first night, just the first night that these things were there. And she said, like, you saw Saswatch. I mean, how do you know? How did you know that? And she's like, well, my grandpa, yada, yada, yada. You know, he used to hang out with these things. And he had a good relationship with them, which is possible, I guess.

But I'm never going to do that. I'm down to go back up there with 10 people with rifles, though. Yeah. I don't think you're crazy, Jerry. and I believe you, even without the pictures, because you do have some pretty cool pictures, but even without that, everything you're describing is kind of what they do. And I'm impressed the fact that you picked up on patterns. You picked up on it much quicker than I did.

You know, for me talking to eyewitnesses over the years, you start to see weird little patterns. And you were in this moment in time to where you started realizing, okay, after midnight, they show up and they tend to leave right before the sun is starting to come up. After going through all of this torment, really, I don't know how else to describe it. It sounds horrific and it sounds like something I definitely wouldn't want to go through. But afterwards, after all this is over, how has it affected you? I lost my job because I couldn't focus

I literally couldn't focus because all I could think about is Sasquatch you know the wind would blow and it would blow and hit the flap on my apartment and the flap would open and close and it would go and it would kind of snap closed

and it would trigger that PTSD so strong that whatever I was doing, I was done. You know, I had to take a break. You know, I had to take a break. It just happened, that kind of stuff happened too much to where I couldn't work. Luckily, I had savings. You know, that's all I can say. I moved into a cheaper place so those savings could last. And just now, after about a, oh gosh, about a year and a half of therapy, doctor's appointments, I was in the hospital for a while and they kept me for a long time

because I didn't change my story and they, you know, they didn't know what to do with me. Luckily, my therapist, she knows all about this, you know. She's amazing. She's helped me get back out into nature. I've had to do a lot of a lot of nature walks with her and she'll kind of leave, leave me alone. And say, I'll be back.

in five minutes and I kind of just hang out alone, kind of get the feeling for the place. We go to normal places where I'd hang out when I was a kid, like, in the mountains by my parents' house. You know, because I used to go there almost every day, but I couldn't go there anymore. So she would, you know, we went on several walks. It actually, I don't know how much it helped, in all honesty. I think it just took a lot of time and acceptance of just the reality of what I went through. I had to just accept that, yes, it was scary. Yes, these things, you know, it wasn't personal.

They're just crazy. And they play games and they do some scary things to people. And it's fun for them. It must be their type of recreation. But I have to accept these things that they just happened. Because I can't just dwell on it 24-7 like I was. it really screwed up my life completely. If you want to be honest, it really took me for a downturn for a long time.

I'm just starting to come out of it. I've got a good job lined up. They're really stoked about me. And, you know, I'm doing really well in the interviews, and I'm not thinking about Sasquatch. I am thinking about if I'm going to run into them again. I'm always thinking about that. And I don't go anywhere unarmed.

I'm always armed. you know, and when I'm at home, I'm more into the teeth, you know, and it's all with an arm's reach still because you never know what's going to happen. But, yeah, it's put me, it's done and turn on me, Wes. Yeah, yeah, I get it, man. I get it for sure. And, you know, I'm impressed with you, Jerry. You took something negative and you're trying to turn it around in a positive way. And I think over time it starts to the feeling of the.

that fear kind of starts to go away and it maybe won't be on your mind that much. But I don't think it ever will leave you. I mean, you always, always remember this moment in time. And, you know, I know it's not the easiest thing to sit here and recount what happened to you because you do go back to that moment when you're recounting these events. And I know we're almost at two hours, but I really appreciate you coming on and sharing what happened to you. back in 2022. I really enjoyed chatting with you, Jerry.

You are so welcome, and I seriously cannot thank you enough for the work that you're doing. You have no idea how much it's helped me. You are one of the reasons that I'm doing so much better because I get to listen to reports that have so many similar things to what I went through. And that really helps.

I mean, it helps me just like, yeah, okay, I'm not the only one. this is just a random thing. And I just so happened to move into a place where these things lived. And they did their things, and it affected me. You know, but your show's done amazing things. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. So I can't thank you enough for what you're doing.

So thank you, Wes. I appreciate the kind of words, Jerry. Thank you again. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.