Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1049 He Slimed Me

Episode Date: April 14, 2024

Chad writes "In 2003 a hunting friend and myself had a very strange thing happen to us. I live in Mercer county Ohio, it's in West central Ohio, flat land, small box woods, and miles of corn fields. I live in a small town called Celina, we have one of the largest man dug lakes in the world its 5 miles wide and 10 miles long, it was dug by hand by German immigrants for a water supply for the cannel systems in Ohio . I'm telling you this because I think these things could travel the old cannels from time to time, the BFRO has a one report from back in the 70's close to the cannels. One night while out running our coondogs we had a very weird night. We had very nice hounds that did their job, no nonsense dogs. We cut 2 dogs into a section we often hunted, it didn't take long for my dog to open up on a track, and the my buddies dog opened up. Shortly after the dogs went quiet, followed by high pitched squeaks from both dogs and then not another peep out of either dog. We had tracking collars on the dogs but we couldn't get a signal from them , these collars can be tracked for 5 miles or so...But we had nothing. We looked at each other discussing why the dogs were acting strange, coyotes, running a deer, we didn't know. But our dogs almost never ran off game. It was early September so the corn was 7 or 8 feet tall and still green and we was standing in it, All of a sudden I had an overwhelming feeling of fear sweep over me, we heard something running around us in a circle, it sounded like more than one thing and it was big, it stopped moving and i could hear heavy breathing and they started moving again... Not going to lie I was scared very scared.... I moved closer to my friend and asked him if could hear that and what is it... He just said be quiet listen .. we heard some more movement and then nothing. We continued to try to track the dogs but nothing. All of sudden I heard something splatter I looked at John and he said what the....His shoulder was covered in a thick clear slime that smelled awful. It freaked John out. We headed back to the truck. Keep in mind these dogs are worth literally thousands of dollars so heading back without them wasn't an easy choice. We got back to the truck and found both dogs hiding behind the back tire of the truck, we had to drag them out from under the truck...Not normal, these big walker hounds could have easily killed any animal we have here. We loaded the dogs into the dog box got into the truck and the smell from johns jacket was the nastiest thing I have ever smelled, John actually had to put it bed of the truck... What do you think happened...? Was it cryptic related?"

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forward.

I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. What are you reporting? Jesus Christ, you bet. See you. Hello. Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine.

I don't know. Do you see a announcer? Yes, I'm looking right here. Uh-uh. I'm Robert from England. You're about to listen to the greatest podcast in the planet. So grab a cup of tea, sit back, and prepare to be entertained by Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone.

Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show plan for you. We'll be talking with chat. who is from Ohio. And in 2003, he was out hunting with a buddy of his, and they had a very strange experience. And then something even stranger happened before they left. I love talking to everyone,

but hunters are generally the people I really want to talk to, mainly for two reasons. A, hunters are usually more aware of their surroundings and are on high alert while they're. out there in the woods, mainly because of what the whole reason why they're out there in the first place. And B, most hunters have encounters and they pass them off as nothing more than, well, that was weird. When I'm speaking to hunters who have had an experience, but they don't buy into Sasquatch. They think it's completely, it's nonsense. And I find out they had a dog with

them, I start asking questions about the dog because a hunter may very well be skeptical, but I guarantee the dog is not. Last night, I had Brad on the show, and Brad grew up in Virginia, and they have, I mean, this guy has like over 40 years of just odd, weird things going on and around the property. And his father would always say, oh, you know, it was a grill that escaped many years ago, and that's what people were seeing, and didn't believe in Bigfoot, and kind of instilled that in Brad. You know, this is complete BS. This is nonsense. And I think most of my listeners will listen to it and know exactly what's going on right off the bat as he starts talking. Here's a clip from last night's show. Pay close attention to how the dog acts

while all this is going on. And then as you listen to Chad tonight, pay close attention to how these kundogs act in the situation. Here's a small clip from last night's show. So I had been camping back there several times and every time I was there I would hear a tree knock and a tree crash and that would be it. That would be the extent of it. But this the last time I was there it was the same summer as the other camping. And I had the same friend with me. But this time we had his vehicle and he brought his German Shepherd. So we rolled up there. When we checked the whole road to see if there's any campers and we didn't see any. And we were like, cool, we got the whole place ourselves. If we get spooked, we can shoot into the woods or something to scare something

off. We don't have to worry about hitting another camper, you know. So we get back there and it's getting kind of dark because we're between two ridges and we get the fire going and the dog starts going off for like 20 minutes at this one area but he wouldn't go into the woods and this dog was a couple of years old and he wasn't scared of anything and I was like why doesn't he just go get whatever it is you know what I mean but he wouldn't he just kept barking and we couldn't figure that out. So finally he quits barking and I'm sitting there and I just happened to be looking to like my right out of my peripheral a little bit. And I see this rock come flying out of the woods and it wasn't very big. It was only two to three inches long about a half inch thick. But it came on

like a horizontal trajectory, you know, and it landed about 20 feet from me. And I said to my friend, I said, what the hell was that? He goes, it was a rock. I said if it was a rock, then somebody threw it. So I got up and we were about 40 feet off the long road and I went out to the road with my pistol and I could still see without a light. And I walked about 50 yards each direction on the road. And I looked behind trees. I looked everywhere, you know. And I mean, I was on high alert.

I had my gun out and pointed, you know. And I went back to camp. And my buddy and his dog just stayed there. there. And it was weird. Like, normally this dog would have went with me, but he didn't. So I told my buddy, I said, if it's a person, he's hiding real good, you know, which is kind of creepy. So, you know, a few hours went by, it's dark, and we were thinking about going to bed as about 11 o'clock at night. And I said, I'm going to try to get some coyote call, you know, I'm just trying to get some coyotes in. I'm just going to do some.

howling. So I started doing some howling and we had heard it one tree crash earlier in a knock. And, you know, and we didn't think anything of it. And so here it is 11. I'm doing the howling. And I mean, it didn't take very long, West, maybe 10, 15 minutes. I heard the loudest sound I have ever heard in the woods ever. It was like a cross between a hoot and a grunt. And it did it two times. It sounded like a gorilla. And you could tell that it didn't come from a beak or anything.

It came out of something that was probably like a human-shaped mouth. It was really weird. So I was feeling pretty bawsy and I hooted back at it. and the damn thing, you could hear it take off running, but it wasn't running towards us. It was kind of running parallel. And it was crashing through woods and all this stuff and heard it jumping over things and moving really fast. And it kind of like went out of range where we couldn't hear it. So about, I don't know, I forget how long, maybe a half hour later, this damn thing had snuck up in behind us,

where originally the rocket came from and now is only about 50 yards from us and led out two of these huge howl grunts, you know, like a 800-pound owl or something strange. And I looked at my friend and the dog just looked. He didn't bark. He didn't do anything. And I said to my friend, I said, if this is an animal, I got to see it. and I walked up in the woods. I was up there with my gun.

I was looking around. I had a pretty good three-cell mag light. And I got back in there and I was like thinking to myself, I looked up in the trees and stuff. I didn't see anything. And I started getting a little spooked out. I was like, if there is something up here and it's not an owl, which I'm pretty sure it wasn't,

it could be behind a tree. It could be right next to me. So I just kind of backed out of there and went back to the camp. And I said, man, I said, I don't know what's going on, but I want to go to bed. And I said, just in case it's a person, I said, I'm going to do this. So I emptied 15 rounds up into that area out of my pistol. And I sprayed it left or right, you know, to try to get a good target area and just let anything or anyone know. that it's not going to be one bullet, it's going to be a bunch of bullets, and you're not going to know

where they're going to hit. You know what I mean? And again, that was episode 1048. It's at Escape Gorilla again. And I really appreciate Brad coming on. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Chad to the show. Chad, thanks for coming on.

Hey, no problem. I appreciate the opportunity. Yeah, Chad. And I know back in 2003, you were out there in Ohio and he had this very strange experience. And even as I read through the email, I was like trying to wrap my brain around what exactly happened. But before we go into that, as I was saying there in the intro, hunters really are my favorite people to talk to because there's so many weird things that happen most of the time with hunters. And if you ask them, you know, looking back, was there anything weird that

happened? They'll go, oh, yeah, let me tell you about this weird bear I saw or, you know, anything odd like that. Before this happened to you in 2003, looking back on hunting, what? Was there anything odd or strange that ever happened to you that you just kind of passed off? Well, I mean, there had been a few times where I felt like, you know, the classic stuff. And, of course, I didn't know anything. Really, there wasn't podcast or anything. And it was, internet was there, but we're pretty rural. We didn't have it.

But there was a few times where, you know, I would be coming out of the woods at night and just like, get a very uneasy feeling and just feel like I was being paced out and here like here like footsteps pacing me out and uh it it it happened you know pretty regularly it one's particular spot that I would that I would hunt and uh I honestly it kind of justified it in my mind as being well like the leaves I'm walking on the sticks I'm walking on it just must be kind of echoing off of the off the forest, you know, maybe a little bit or something. And then one day, I didn't hear it.

And I didn't hear it. And I really, you know, it didn't start on me or anything. But, you know, I never really put two and two together. And I just noticed, well, wow, that's weird. One time I walk out and not be uneasy. And then the next time I walk out and there'd be nothing. just kind of odd. And looking back on it now, you know, who knows, it didn't see anything at the time.

It could have been, who knows. Yeah, and as you and I were chatting earlier, I was telling you, you know, sound definitely bounces around in the forest. I mean, at times, if you hear something, at times it could be kind of hard to pinpoint exactly where it's coming from. But I think that we all have that internal instinct, you know, just like you were saying, like, you know, something's wrong here. feel uncomfortable here.

Something's very off. If you don't believe in Bigfoot, it's very easy to kind of pass things off as nothing more than, hmm, that was weird. You know what I mean? And the thing is, it's not like an animal,

like a deer is going to pay, a deer isn't going to pace you out. A rabbit or a raccoon isn't going to pace you out. They're going to do what they can to, you know, avoid you. Yeah, I couldn't agree more with you.

And back in 2000, And in three, you're out there with a buddy of yours, and you're in Ohio when this happened. If you would, just kind of start from the very beginning. What were you guys doing? And walk me into what happened? Yeah. So it was in 2003 in early fall. And we were Coon Hunting.

And where I live in Ohio, it's very flat. And it's cornfields. and what we call block woods. Their woods can be, you know, maybe you'll have little blocks of woods, maybe five acres, some of them 20 acres, some, you know, you get a big section. You may have 100 acre woods, but most of them, you know, are 20, 30 acres. And it's all flat ground. So we were going to cune hunting.

And so we, just to lay a little backstory or give a little insight, you know, The dogs we run, they're pretty, pretty good, pretty good coon hounds. We, we competition hunted. We would go and we would competition hunt. And honestly, what we realized through the years is it costs just as much money to feed a dog that's not very good as it does to feed a good one. So we try to keep good ones around. And so it was in September and we got to our spot and just pulled up. down in the ditch and the corn was still standing obviously and it was still pretty green and we'd

had a rain so the the corn field was pretty wet so it wasn't obviously wasn't real cold but we would wear our frog legs and then a nylon jacket just to keep the water off of us from all the rain that had collected on the on the corn and we flipped the dogs through the cornfield there was a woods out in the middle of the section probably, I don't know, half mile, half mile in or so. And the dogs had been in about five, ten minutes, and they open up like they should. That just means like they're on the track of a coon. They open up and start running track, and all of a sudden they went quiet. And both of them led out a just a real odd, a real odd, like a screech, like a just.

like just a yip, they started yipping. And they pretty much shut up after that. Back then, we did not have GPS trackers, but we had radio trackers because they weren't cheap dogs and you wanted to keep track of them. And so the radio trackers that we had back then, you couldn't pinpoint your dog like you can on the GPS trackers that hooked your phone

and give you a satellite image and you can see exactly what your dog's doing. But these radio ones, they were more dependable because they didn't depend on any kind of cell phone signal or satellite signal. And they had really long range. You could track one for a long way on the mole. We call them beep beep trackers because you just point it in the direction and you would judge where they were at by the beep you would get back from the collar. And so we're trying to find these dogs.

and we couldn't pick up the collars. There was no, we could not pick up a signal from, both dogs had a tracker on them, we couldn't pick up a signal from either dog. And so we're standing there and I just, you know, that was odd, but really nothing totally out of the ordinary had happened except for the dogs was running something,

and now they're not. And that was very odd for these two dogs. And so, I just, all of a sudden, I just got a very uneasy feeling. I mean, just a feeling, a very dark, a very, very dark feeling. And it was scary. And I didn't even know why I was scared at that point. You know, it's not like I've never stood in the middle of a cornfield.

It wasn't eerie to me. It was pretty normal, something that we would do on a very regular basis year around to keep dogs in shape and sharp. And all of a sudden I heard something running. And I thought to myself, well, that's got to be our dogs. And I turn the lights on and looking. And I can see the corn's moving like around us. And I'm looking and I can't see anything really.

Of course, it's hard to see anything with or without a light in a cornfield where there's daylight or dark. And so we're looking and we can't find anything and there's collars, the trackers still not picking up anything whatsoever. So if it's a dog, we most definitely would have been picking up something at that point. And I was just very uneasy and whatever was there started doing circles around us at about probably 10 yards out from us where we were standing. He was standing in one row of corn.

I was standing in the other corn, row of corn, and you know, you could see each other just fine, but whatever was was like circling us. And it sounded like there was more than one. I looked at John, and I'm like, hey, man, is this a, is this a, is that coyotes? Or what is that? What in the world is happening? I'd never really experienced anything like that. And he says, hey, hey, just be, just be quiet.

Just be quiet. And I honestly think he was probably feeling the same thing I was because he seemed pretty shook up. And about that time, I heard it. This is where it gets kind of weird. I heard a big splat. I mean, it's just what it sounded like, splat. And I look over and John says a few choice words, what in the world? and something had fallen on.

Now, we're not standing in the woods. We are in the middle of a cornfield. There's no trees around us. There's nothing around us except sky above us and cornstalks around us. And I heard a big splat and I look over and John has this, he has this clear slime dripping off of him. We had like the lights we had on the headlamp that are attached to a hard hat, and it had hit the side of his hard hat and was dripping down his nylon jacket. And I said, what in the world?

And he said, I don't know. And he grabbed a handkerchief or something out of his pocket and started wiping it off the best he could. And it's like a good amount. It's like the amount maybe like of what would be in like a 16 ounce bottle of water. It was like a good amount. that had fallen on him. And we were both at this point, like, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry because, I mean, there was just an eerie, eerie feeling.

And I could hear these things, whatever it was still going around us, and I could hear him breathing now. I could literally hear them taking breaths. And it sounded to be like there was, whatever it was, it sounded to be like there was two of them. and they were continuing to just make not they weren't going around us as fast as they were at one point but they were just kind of moving around us and you can see the cornstalks moving and uh i said john you want to go back to the truck he said let's try to find these dogs one more time and he pulls his tracker out and we we got nothing no signal whatsoever so we turn around to go to the truck which was we weren't that far from the truck maybe 200, we were maybe 200 yards in the cornfield. The road, we was probably 200 yards off the road.

And we walked back to the truck and I started smelling this awful smell when we was walking out. And I didn't know what it was at this point yet. And so we get to the truck and we shine the light on the truck and I heard a whimper and so I got down to look underneath the truck and both dogs were underneath the truck almost tucked up in the rear wheel well and up in real as close as they could get to the back tire. It was a strangest thing because I mean these dogs, they are athletes. They are thorough breads. They are bread to a tea. They're not scared of anything in the woods in Ohio. There's nothing that these dogs probably, if they wanted to take down into woods in Ohio where we're at,

I mean, a boar might get the best of them. But as far as coyotes or something, unless there's a whole, whole bunch of them, the coyote's not going to whoop one of these dogs. They're big dogs. They were, their walkers is what they are. And the week, I had to pry them dogs out from underneath the truck. and we got them out from underneath the truck and loaded them up. They wouldn't even, these dogs were trained to load up in a dog box.

When you drop the tailgate, they will jump up on the tailgate. They wouldn't load up. They wouldn't do anything. So we had to pick the dogs up and put them in the box, and we got in the truck. And that smell was just permeating this truck. It was, it smelled like something dead and like garbage on a hot summer day. It was unbearable. And John took his, he said, man, I think that's me.

I said, I think it's you too. And he took his jacket off and he threw it in the, and he had an extended cab pickup truck. He threw it in the back. And it was so strong. It was stunk up that whole truck. He pulled the truck over. We was on the road at this time.

He pulled the truck over, pulled that jacket out and put it in the back of the truck because it had stunked the whole truck up so bad. And it was, I don't know what it was, but I'll tell you this much, it wasn't a deer, it wasn't a coon, it wasn't a possum or a coyote. And that's about all we have around here. It was a very eerie, eerie feeling, almost a supernatural kind of feeling that whatever was there was giving off. I want to come back and ask you about the jacket. When you guys were walking out of there, did anything else happen, you know, as you guys left the cornfield? As after the incident? Yeah, after everything kind of happened and your buddy John goes, hey, let me look again, see if I can find these dogs and then you can't.

So you decide to leave. on your way out, what was the atmosphere like? Hair standing up on the back of your neck kind of moment. And it didn't stop. It wasn't something just like, ooh, that was weird. It was a very awkward and a sinister, a very sinister kind of feeling that literally, like, the, it's funny. the hair on your arm stand up and hair on the back of your neck stand up.

It was very, it was very, uh, yeah, I don't even really know how to put that into words because it, I, I've never really felt that way, uh, since then. It was, it was, it was, it shook you up a little bit. And I don't even know what it was that shook us up. That's, that's the thing. It was a strange night for sure. I mean, it would have bugged me, you know, especially with when you guys get back to the truck and the way those coon dogs are acting. And anyone who's ever been around coondogs, we don't do a lot of cune hunting here in the north.

But anyone who's ever been around cune dogs, they're insane. I think somewhere in their DNA, they think they're 10 feet tall and bulletproof. I've never seen a cune dog afraid of anything or anything. and their reaction is very strange in this moment. I was kind of saying in the beginning, you know, even a skeptical hunter, if they have a dog with them, ask them how their dogs doing.

I guarantee the dog's not skeptical. Those dogs knew something was going on that night. When you guys were sitting in the cornfield and this thing's going around and around and around you, was it on two legs or do you think it was on four legs? you know, I don't know. It's, you know, it's been so long. And, but I mean, it's still very clear in my head.

It was hard to tell in that corn. It was very hard to tell in that corn. But whatever it was, it didn't seem to be, it did seem to be, it was moving all the corn stocks, but it felt like it was closer to the ground. It didn't feel like whatever it was was towering above the corn stocks, if that makes sense. I don't know that it sounded small. Whatever it was did not sound small, but it didn't feel like it was up above the cornstalks we were in or anything. When everything was kind of said and done and you guys get back to the truck, everything kind of cools off for a second, did you guys examine the jacket and figure out, okay, what is this?

Well, he had wiped most of that off while he was standing there. He pulled a handkerchief out, and he had wiped it off his helmet and wiped it off his shoulder. And it was, to be honest, it looked like what would come out of a can of Vienna sausages, but maybe a little thicker. it was And it's mind blowing because what

I mean even if okay let's just say for instance what if a bird was flying over that is not what bird droppings

look like by no means is what that is that what any and it would have to been a huge bird maybe like a taredactyl or something

but there was nothing above us it's just mind boggling I mean my boggling. Yeah, it makes me wonder if, because you know, when I very first read your email Chad, I was sitting there thinking, oh, this guy got peed on. But as I'm hearing you kind of recount it, I don't know that it was peed on it. I have had a few eyewitnesses come forward. One guy was in a

tent and he saw this huge humanoid shape outside of his tent. And everything about it was not a man. I mean, this thing, it was like a giant outside of his tent. It started peeing on his tent. And I also had another guy who was out camping. And I don't think he had a tent. I think he had a sleeping bag. And he woke up to this huge giant blacked out figure standing over the top of him, peeing right on his sleeping bag.

And when he kind of reacted, it reacted and left. But both eyewitnesses, when you listen to the, them recount it, it sounds like a human peeing on you. This is kind of weird because it just sounds like a ton of fluid was thrown on your friend. Makes me wonder if he was like spit on. Well, you know, when I tell this story to friends and they laugh at me, they don't, they think I'm just making it up. Some folks do. And it isn't. I always tell them that I got, that my buddy got slobbered on by Bigfoot. But I don't know. It's stunk. so bad and it

it was just bad he had to he I mean he he had to like literally wash that jacket to get that smell out of that and if you've ever been around a Coon Hunter I mean our clothes kind of stink anyway just from being around

the dogs and everything but this smell that was on this didn't compare to the dogs or anything else and I don't know what would have made those dogs do what they done but you know You know, just to put it in perspective, the breed of dogs we were hunting, you know, coon hunting with, that's the same breed of dogs that they hunt mountain lions with.

You know, when they, out west, and these things will climb up trees after mountain lions and everything else. There's certainly nothing in central Ohio that would, that should put the fear of God in those things like, like was put in. in them. Yeah, I agree. As I said before, you know, I've been around a few coondogs and the way they're trained, the way they are maintained, and there's a whole process behind it. And like I said, man, the coondogs have been around, they're insane. They're completely fearless and completely insane. And, you know, I'm really wondering about this whole night and what was thrown or spit on or what that fluid was that hit your buddy because, you know, there's a few accounts. I'll tell you a quick story.

So I interviewed these two brothers, just like 800 episodes ago. I've talked about it a million times. And one of the brothers was chased through his brother's garage and into the home by one of these things. And long story short, I later asked him about the pee that was on the garage floor because this thing had peed while it was chasing his brother all the way through. garage. He didn't go into the home. It left shortly after that. And one of the brothers said the same thing that you said. It stunk. He said it completely stunk. And I asked him, you know, what did it look like? And he said, it reminded him of antifreeze. Kind of that weird color, kind of that weird texture of anaphrase is really what it looked like. And it took forever

to get the smell out of his garage. I think he bleached it and he did a bunch of things because the smell just kept lingering around, but the way he describes it is more like anaphrase, you know, the texture of anaphrase, even the color. Kind of what you're describing doesn't really match

antifreeze. It sounds thicker. Yeah, this was like, it was like, it was like Beethoven, that dog, when he'd shake his head or Turner and Hooch, when that dog would shake his head and that slime, that slobbers that would come out of his mouth.

That's, that's, that's pretty much what it was, but about a three-quarters of a plastic bottle, drinking water bottle full. And it, I mean, when that, when that hit, when that hit my friend, it just splattered. It just splat. It was, uh, yeah, I don't know. It was, it was very odd, very, very, very odd. And I don't know if anybody else has ever had that experience or maybe know what it could be. Or I don't know.

There's not a, you know, this area is so open with just like I said, like woods in the middle. I don't think these things live here. But I don't know what's to keep them from stopping from coming through here. but it there's not been a whole lot of like sightings in other words, I guess what I'm saying, in this area. And I don't know, I don't know, maybe it was an airplane dropping its waist.

I don't know what it was. Yeah. I don't think airplane dropping its waist is going to give you that just scare you, even before anything happened. Yeah, I don't really think it was airplane. There's too many moving parts. You guys have two somethings, you know, circling you around and around and around. In the meantime, your locator's failing. You can't find your dogs. The dogs, coincidentally, are back at the truck terrified for their lives. Those, I'm telling

you, those dogs knew something was going on. And you guys are having this overwhelming, intense fear of, you know, trying to pinpoint why you feel this way. I don't believe for two seconds there was an airplane that dropped something on you guys. It really sounds like something was thrown at your friend. And, you know, sometimes you get reports of Sasquatch slobbering, but they're very, very rare. You get that more with the canine entity creature that people seem to run into the dog man where they'll report it sloboring. But again, you know, when you think of like a dog slobbering and shaking its head, this sounds very different like something was thrown.

Have you guys ever gone back to this place? Honestly, no. I mean, now that you mention it, I never did, I never did hunt that place again. I didn't. I don't know, I don't know that it was intentional, but I never did hunt that. We never did hunt there again.

I don't think I would have gone back either. And I really need to do some research after this show. I swear I've heard this before. I really should be writing things down. It's all in my head. And, you know, I thought about writing this last 10 years of my life just down and putting it out on the internet for free and whoever wants to read it can read it. But I swear I've heard this before. You know, with regard to you and your friend, when it's all said and done, the night is kind of over. Do you guys ever sit down to talk about what happened? Well, you know what?

We got in the truck, and I'm kind of, I'm the talker guy. I'm like, we got in the truck, and I was like, hey, man, what just happened out there? What was that? I mean, did you hear that? I'm just throwing questions at him. Did you hear that thing breathing? Did you hear whatever it was going around us? And he didn't respond.

He didn't have an answer. He didn't want to talk about it. And, yeah, that was it. I really don't see that fellow much anymore. I don't coon hunt anymore. And, you know, time, you know, kind of just do other things. Just mainly deer hunting now. And I really don't talk to that guy anymore.

And it's one of those things like, if it was like just something weird happened, weird things happen to people all the time in the woods. And they don't put an impact on you. And it was something more than just hearing normal nature. Because when something like that happens, it just puts, it gets ingrained in it. And even just telling the story, man, it takes me back. you know, and I can kind of just see it all again. And, yeah, it was something more than just a regular animal than what we have here, for sure. Having two eyewitnesses is very helpful in situations like this.

What I found over the years is that the overall encounter is the same between the two eyewitnesses, But sometimes you'll pick up different details from either one or the other because of a perspective and the other ones kind of may have seen something. And it really makes me wonder if your buddy saw something that night because he wasn't talking and he was done and you guys never really talked about it. I really wonder if he saw something that night. part to your buddy getting that stuff thrown on him that hit his jacket i realize you're hearing these things going around and around and um you're under fear and that sort of thing but did you hear anything part of that whatever that fluid was part of it being thrown yeah yeah well it was it was it was it was going around us it was it was it was moving whatever whatever it was there was i

I believe there was two. And whatever it was, it was, it was moving around us. But like when it first, when it first came in, it was, it was jostling the corn very aggressively and a lot. But when the, when the stuff come down, it, it wasn't moving as much, but you could still hear the corn moving. You could still hear something moving in the corn. I'd have been right there with you guys. like, let's get the hell out of here. Did this event kind of prevent you from coon hunting?

No, no, it didn't. I had a, I actually, you know, there was a whole group of us. We hunted together and we would travel together to go to different hunts and things when we would do this. And I brought it up to one of the other guys that we hunt with. And he just, he looked at me like, I was crazy. and he said, may he said, you guys just, you said, you guys just seeing things, hearing things. I said, well, I'm telling you, what I didn't dream up was a bunch of slime falling out of the sky and hitting the dude. And it's smelling like nasty.

It was, yeah, it was quite the experience, to say the least. Yeah, dreaming it up makes no sense at all. Then those two kundogs that you had, they must have been hallucinating as well. And I do think that you ran into two of these creatures based on everything that happened that night. I wanted to ask you, you know, you're sitting there and these two things are going in circles around you, and they're not far from you. I mean, they're relatively close. I think he said like 10 yards or something like that, which is very close. And I can't even imagine being in that position because in a cornfield, you can't see.

I try and put myself in your position. I think I would have felt a little trapped. But from your perspective, what do you make of that behavior of them just going around and around and around at a very close distance? Yeah, it was very intimidating. I mean, whatever's going around us obviously is going around us, you know, and it knows we're there. It's circling us. That's a very scary feeling, especially when you can't see it, but you're watching. and the cornstocks move, you know, you can see the tops of the tassels just moving all through there.

And that's, that's eerie. It didn't feel like, hey, it didn't feel like it was just a curious thing. Like it was just like, hey, what's up? They didn't feel like that at all. And it definitely wasn't scared of us. Yeah, I wonder if what you ran into, I really do think it was two of these creatures, but I wonder if it was younger ones, because this is the same piss poor behavior that you hear from other eyewitnesses, especially with the younger ones, two adults coming in and doing this, you know, I guess it's possible.

As far as that fluid on your friend's coat, I wish I had a great answer for you. I wish I could say, you know, it was this. I'm not sure. You know, it could have been spit, you know, even for a younger one. one, which are much bigger than you and I, and, you know, the size of their mouth and everything else, I mean, it could have spit, I guess. It's hard to say. And I know you've been kind of looking into this. This is over 20 years ago. And after kind of looking into the subject and having this very odd experience, I ask everyone on the show, chat, what do you think Sasquatch is?

And again, there's no wrong answer. No one knows. But I always love to hear people. people's opinion. What do you think that they are? After all these years of researching this, I'll just be dead honest with you. I have no idea what they are. I have an idea what I don't think they are. I don't think that they're Nephilim related. I don't think it's any creatures out of the Bible unless it would be, you know, unless they're just a nasty spiritual entity in some sort of fleshly form. But I don't think they're Nephlam. I don't necessarily, I don't know.

I don't, I have no idea, Wes. But when you get one in your garage and you're researching it, I would appreciate it if you'd let me know what they are. I definitely will, man. If I ever have one of my garage, I'll give you a call. You know, it's so hard to really know what they are. It's you really could go in any direction with these things, which is even weirder. That smell that was on your friend's coat.

And I know it kind of gets reported, you know, sometimes when these creatures are around that, weird smell shows up. After your friend washed his coat, did that smell come out? Yeah, yeah, for the most part. Of course, you know, if you've ever been in a Coon Hunter's truck, they're generally pretty smelling. They smell like dogs anyway. So, but it definitely didn't smell like it did before. Yeah, it'd be really nice to chat with John,

who was there with you that night. From everything that happened, you guys go back, and the normal human reaction is, okay, what's going on here? What just happened? You guys don't really, he doesn't really want to talk. He just kind of shuts down. And then you guys never talk about it again.

Do you get a feeling like he might have seen something? You know, I've never even contemplated that. But, you know, you say that and it makes you wonder because I feel he didn't say, he wasn't saying anything at all. He pretty much just kind of shut down. He wasn't a big, the guy's not a big talker anyway, but he pretty much just shut down. And it didn't matter, he wouldn't, he wouldn't even respond on it. Even at a different time, I brought it up.

John, remember that one time? He wouldn't even respond to it. So, I mean, very well could have. Yeah, it really makes me wonder if he saw something just based on his reaction. most of the time when one person sees something, the other one doesn't. The one that saw it will shut down the way your buddy did. And I mean, maybe he didn't see anything, but his reaction kind of makes me think he did see something. I guess I can't give him too much crap.

He just got slimed. I wanted to ask you, earlier you were saying you and John are no longer friends. I mean, we may be hunted once or twice again after that, and that was it. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, I never, that's weird. That's just weird that I never even put two and two together. I just, maybe that had something to do with that. In fact, that maybe if he's seen something, maybe that has something to do with that.

Yeah, you see it time and time again where two people are together. an encounter and shortly after the encounter, they no longer speak to each other. And the only thing I can make sense of it is is maybe one person is trying to forget that night ever happened. And, you know, talking to you, Chad, reminds me of that night. So, and I'd like to forget it ever happened. That's the only thing I can really come to. I do think that you ran into two of these creatures. And like I said before, with your especially those dogs, man. Coondogs cowering, waiting for you guys by the truck,

something's very wrong here. Even if they would have ran the dog, as far as the dogs, if they would have ran into like a pack of coyotes, which we do have coyotes around here, generally not big packs, but, you know, it's not uncommon to see, you know, three or four together, you know, maybe five, you know. But if they would have ran into the coyotes,

them dogs would have been, you know, tore up. you know, if there would have been more of them that they could whoop, you know, that they would have had teeth marks on them. They would have been bloodied up, scratched up, and they were not. They were just as they were when we sent them into woods. And that's really what concerns me with what these things are, based on animals' reactions, them going back and hiding, almost refusing to come out from underneath that truck,

and then, you know, not getting in their cages and, you know, almost like they were in shock. And that's weird because I can't think of any other animal or person on the planet that would strike fear in a dog like that to where those dogs were in shock and they were terrified. And it makes you wonder why. Maybe they are more in tune with what these things are and what's going on around them. than we are. It's hard to say. It's such a fascinating account, and I really appreciate you coming on and sharing with this whole incident with us. I know it happened over 20 years ago, but I really enjoyed chatting with you. Thank you again. Yeah, no problem. Do you care if I ask you one question?

Yeah, of course you can. What do you think about the, do you think that these things are supernatural in some way, One of the things in the story that blows my mind looking back on it is that our tracker quit working. And it's a radio tracker. It's not a satellite tracker, but the ones we had back then were a radio tracker. Did the tracker just die and just quit working? No, no, it was on, but we couldn't track the dogs. I guess the batteries in the collar could have died.

I never thought about that. But, you know, those batteries are separate. the batteries in the collar, I guess they could have went dead, which would have been why we didn't have a signal. To answer your first question, Chad, you know, when I very first got into this subject, I mean, I was convinced this is nothing more than, you know, a gigantic great ape running around in North America. For some reason, we couldn't catch up with it.

I never had a great answer for that. But, and as I spoke to more and more people on and off the air about their encounters, you would start to hear really weird parts about people's encounters. Now, running into Sasquatch is weird enough, but you would hear stuff that sounded very paranormal like electronics failing. You would hear of people going out, sitting up all these game cams, putting out food, the game cams fail, food's gone, and there's no explanation why these game cams just shut off or went black. Or they shut off at the very moment the food was taking.

and then they turn back on. So it's kind of a blank spot in the game cam. You would hear of odd sounds, metallic sounds in the woods. People would report hearing their names being called, babies crying, bizarre things that if you look into other genres, you'll find. Strange balls of light being on people's property at the same time these creatures are on the property. people would report the eyes glowing, not eye shine, but actually glowing. Critics can go, well, you know, these eyewitnesses are mistaken, but I have several lifelong hunters, hundreds of them, that would disagree with that assessment. These things seemingly banishing into thin air.

Sometimes people will say, you know, I heard a voice in my head. I heard, you know, and you might go well, that person's schizophrenic. but there's a lot of people, reputable people, that have experienced that when these things are around. I would consider a less drought very reputable. And Hitoid had a very similar experience where they were speaking to him in his head. I think what happens in this subject is you'll have a lot of researchers that want to be the great expert and they want to be the gatekeeper on this topic. So they're very uncomfortable talking about, you know, oh, you saw lights. Well, that's something separate.

Oh, you, the eyes were glowing. You must be mistaken. It was eye shine is what you saw. So they try and take apart what the witnesses is saying as opposed to just listening to what the eyewitness is actually trying to tell them. And, you know, if you're looking for honest answers, you take in all the information, even if it doesn't fit into your worldview. There are many odd and what seem to be paranormal events happening around these creatures when people encounter them. There's something else going on here. And some of the events do seem to be very paranormal.

Beyond Sasquatch isn't normal, first of all. But some of the things they report do appear to be very paranormal. And it's like I said, it's a mystery. and there's more going on here than I think most people realize. That was probably the greatest non-answer you've ever heard. I don't know if I answered your question or not. Yeah, yeah, you did. I appreciate it.

Yeah, this subject is weird, man. There's a lot of weird things that go on when these creatures are around. And like I said before, the creatures are weird enough without any of this other stuff. But you kind of have to take it all in if you're really. really, if you're being honest and you want to find real answers, I don't enjoy talking about glowing eyes. I don't enjoy talking about the lights. I don't enjoy, you know, I would much rather frame the show and make it nothing more than a great ape, and we're sticking with that. That's not true. It's just simply not true. And I know this event happened to you over 20 years

ago, and I can't thank you enough for coming on the show again. I appreciate you wanting to hear my story. It's pretty mind-blowing, really, because your podcast, he gets me through. I listen to a regiment of podcast, and you're on it. You know, I listen to probably two or three, four-year podcast every week at work. So I appreciate you getting me through my day. It's a big help. Thanks again, Chad.

And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at saskwatchchronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out sasswatchchronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.