Sasquatch Chronicles - SC EP:1097 The Michigan Dogman And Lights In The Woods

Episode Date: October 12, 2024

Ty writes "Hey Wes I wanted to update you on something… so the first encounter was at my parents house now I'm older and moved out living about 30ish minutes west of them… anyways when we had the first encounter the DNR as I stated we're searching for a cougar…never found anything. The problem kind of faded and would come back every so often… now that I'm living where I'm at yesterday this would be September 30th DNR is around looking for in their words a "dominant predator" and my mother called me this morning and said that the DNR said the same thing to her… police are patrolling down her road… and she also told me there aren't any deer or turkeys on her property (they are surrounded by about 6-7 acres of woods 25acers of field and then across that field about 30 acres of woods)… as I've stated my dogs are going insane lately and I think it's around where I live currently our neighbors cat is missing trash in the parking lot is being torn out and it's not raccoons it's like bigger pieces of trash… I also live in the woods that surround us for about a mile not sure how many acres that is but it's pretty thick… and we also haven't had any deer around the last month or so which is when the DNR would come around but it stopped for about 2 weeks… now they are back with dogs and police and the whole bundle… its just strange." I will also be speaking to Barbie, Barbie writes " I am slowly starting to open up about my experiences with the paranormal (and Sasquatch). The story below takes place in Baskett, KY, which is beside Spottsville, KY in the County of Henderson. The story about The Spottsville Monster that was on your podcast episodes 51 & 56 took place a few miles down the road from my grandparents property. I have been debating for a month now on whether or not to share my story with you and I have decided that it's time for it to be documented or recorded somewhere. I just started listening to your podcast from the beginning."

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that that big. The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything moves like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. What happened what are you reporting? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That's son of a bitch is about six years. This is about six foot nine. I don't know. Do you see a bouncer? Yes, I'm looking right in it. Uh-uh.

This is BMX Hall of Famer and Gork. And you are listening to the best podcast in the entire universe, Sasquatch Chronicles. Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you. We'll be chatting with Ty. And Ty comes to us from Michigan. And back in 2020, he had a run in with a creature on his property.

that was nothing like Sasquatch and I'll let Ty go into it but he started listening to the show and he was looking for something that kind of matched what he had seen and even talks about a run-in with the DNR they were looking for a rogue cougar

killing local animals but not eating them we're also going to be chatting with Barbie and she comes to us from Kentucky and she lived in like the next town over from the Spotsville Monster and she actually experienced a lot of weird things on her property. Lights in the woods. She heard them talking, and I'll kind of let Barbie go into it. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show,

shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome my tie to the show. Ty, thanks for coming on, ma'am. Thanks for having me. Yeah, if you would, kind of take me back to 2020 when you're on your property out there in Michigan. What were you doing and what happened? Yeah, so I'm actually going to give you some backstory on the land where this actually took place.

My great grandparents. Now, where this takes place is between Lake Edessa and Clarksville in Michigan. My family and another family were pretty much the founding families of these two towns. My great-grandparents settled in between Clarksville, like pretty much right in between Clarksville and Lake Edessa there. And actually, if you were to go on one side of the property, it would come up as Clarksville. And if you were to go on the other side, it would come up as Lake Edessa. So it's like the dividing line between the two towns there. But they went and they bought this property in Clarksville.

I think it was late 1930s, early 1940s. I don't really remember exactly the year. But they bought 36 acres field and like six acres of woods because my grandpa, my great grandpa would bow hunt a lot. They built a house on four of the acres for the field. field and I just remember growing up in my, my grandma would always say that that house was cursed. She never mentioned that she, you know, saw anything or if my grandpa saw anything either, but she would say that they farm the land, so they had, you know, farm animals and fields and

she would go out some mornings to, you know, feed the chickens or the pigs or, you know, whatever. and some of the chickens would just be mauled, like not eaten, just, like, torn apart. And, I mean, we have cougars in Michigan, but not this far down south. And we also have coyotes, but a coyote would eat the chickens, you know? So that was a little strange. There was one time my grandpa, I didn't hear this directly from my grandpa because he passed away before I was born. but I heard it from my grandma and he was in the barn one morning

he was milking the cows and you know farmers they milk their cows at like 4 a.m. so it was still dark out and you know he's milking the cows and he just hears this big bang on the barn he didn't know what it was and he went out to check but

at the time all he had was lanterns and stuff so he couldn't see much but during the day he could see there was a path and again this this field it extends about 12 acres to the nearest woods across so there's a path from the woods all the way up to the barn where where he heard the bang and he thought maybe it could be deer but he didn't think that a deer would you know make a He said it was about four feet wide. A deer ain't going to make a four feet wide trail throughout a cornfield. So he had no idea what that was. And some of the things that they would hear would be like really deep like barts. Not anything that a coyote would make.

And howls, they would hear howls, but not in a pack. Typically when a coyote hunts, they hunt in two or threes. So there would be, you know, a couple of, them howling but it would only be one so that was kind of strange but yeah she never mentioned if she saw anything maybe she didn't she was just you know too terrified to to admit that she saw something and as far as my grandpa I can't speak on that because you know I didn't I didn't talk to him directly he passed away in the 90s so that's the back story on that not much there's there's a lot more

but we'd be here forever talking about it. So this encounter that I actually witnessed was in 20, it was 2019 or 2020. My great grandma had just passed away. And so my parents bought their land and their house. And actually, I should mention this. The house that my parents bought were not the same house, was not the same house that my great grandma had built originally. In 1973, they ended up building on the other side of the property closest to the main road and they built a house there. And that's the house my parents had bought.

So we were remodeling house. We were gutting out everything. I mean, for about three months, the whole house was just held up by a two by four, just a single two by four right in the middle. It was pretty sketchy. So we're working with a lot of power tools and stuff. And one thing my dad noted when we were, you know, because they had a pond so we were draining that pond out so that we could put all like the plaster and the old two by fours and everything else and tiles in that where that hole was so that we could just bury it because that was in the middle of the woods. So we just bury it. One thing he noted while we were doing that was there was no deer tracks anywhere. He didn't see any deer tracks. He didn't even witness or seen any deer around the area.

And that went on for three months. And at this point, it's October, November of that year. And that's when we have, you know, you could look out in the field and see like 80 deer out in the field. But there was not a single deer in sight. So we thought that was strange. A couple weeks later, when we were one, working on the house and I would I would help my dad at night because I was homeschooled so I'd do school during the day while my dad's at work and then at

night we would we would start working on the house and we'd work until like 10 11 o'clock at night but anyways we're we're we have earplugs in we're using power tools and stuff we just hear this big bark like very deep deep bark And we're like, what was that? And then it just stops. So we're like, that's weird. So we continue working a little bit. Then we hear howls and then we look out the window and we can see this thing.

My dad thought it was a coyote, but I go coyote hunting. So in Michigan we can go coyote hunting from July 15th to the middle of August, somewhere around there. So my buddy and I would go coyote hunting all along. hunting a lot. So I get close to coyotes. There's no way this thing was a coyote. This thing was like four feet tall on all fours. And coyotes, they're like two and a half feet tall. They're not very big, not here in Michigan at least. And that was kind of it. It was just running from where the pond was kind of vertical towards the house. But then it kind of just. just faded off into the cornfield there. Then we can pass forward to like two weeks later, I think it was, two, three weeks later. We were doing the same thing. We were modeling this nighttime and we hear howl.

So this time we actually go outside. And we went outside and where the house is, it's probably about 50 yards from the tree line. And it's pitch black. It's cloud cover. And, you know, in November. in Michigan there isn't much sun. So it's all cloud covered pretty much, so the moon's not out

and it's just dark in the woods. But we can see this figure of, again, a four foot tall figure and it's running from the field into the woods. Because at the time,

we weren't farming out the field because it's November. So it's all clear. We can see this thing sprinting from, I don't know where it came from, but it was in the field and it went right into the woods and it was sprinted directly at us. I don't know if it saw us. I don't know if it was just going in there to try to find beer or whatever, but it was sprinting directly at us. So my dad and I, we bolted into the house. When we got in the house, we went to the back room where the window was facing

where we saw it. And that thing was standing up on two legs staring directly at us. Like it knew that we were going to go to that window. And I've never seen anything like that. That was terrifying. I can't even describe how terrifying that was. And my dad was just like, what the hell was that? It looked like, it looked just like a wolf, like a black wolf. It was black.

It was definitely black because you couldn't see much color. you could just see like an outline of it and the ears were pointy and that's the one thing i noticed is a can i regularly like wolves or canine's ears they're going to have a little bit of around you know on the top of the ear it's going to be a little bit rounded but this was like pointed you can't really see the face all too much but you could definitely tell that it was covered in hair in the face and it was skinny but it was all also like buff. You know what I'm saying?

Like it wasn't like fat, but it wasn't it wasn't not muscular. It was just so weird. I've never seen anything like it. And we just, we left and we didn't come back for like three months. Yeah, you know, I've never seen the dog man, but I've heard enough accounts to where

I believe that it's out there and I believe that people are seeing it. I realize all of this is happening very, very quickly, and you guys are scared and terrified. Did you notice a tail or hands or anything when it stood up? No, at the time, we were just kind of freaked out. No, not really. I didn't notice anything like that. Yeah, I would imagine it's a little bit like tunnel vision in that moment.

And he said it was about four feet tall? When it was on all fours, it was about four feet tall. when it was on, I've been in construction and electric since I was like 12 years old. So I'm pretty good with measurements. When it was standing up, it had to have been seven and a half feet easily. Like it, we have a tree out there where it was standing. And that first limb, and I only know this because we have a trampoline out there and I had to measure all of this. Because it wasn't exactly in the trees.

It was kind of in the yard, but the house is like kind of recessed into the woods, but not exactly because we cleared out like 80 trees. So there is a tree line, but the yard also has a ton of trees in the backyard. Where it was standing was right where we have a trampoline now. And our trampoline is like eight and a half feet tall from the ground. and where that first limb is is about seven, seven and a half feet tall and that thing was standing all the way up to there to that first limb on that tree

where that tranquiline is. So that thing was easily seven and a half feet tall. Like I said, it was pretty dark back there. You could only really see an outline of, I mean, you know, like when you're peering in the edge of the woods, you can kind of see, but you can't really make out much details,

just kind of like a shape. That's kind of what it was. like I said, I don't know if it was if it saw us because when we we had opened. So we have a garage door that's that faces the woods. It's on the backside of house. So we we had opened up that garage door and we had looked out towards the field. And we could see this black figure just sprinking towards us because the field there, the woods isn't like really, really thick.

It's like it's like probably a, 100 meters thick, maybe a little bit more, 120 meters thick. It's not real, real thick. It's more wide than it is thick. But we could see this thing just sprinting straight at us from the field. And so we just ran right inside and we looked out that window. It knew that we were going to go to that window. And it was like, it's like it wanted us to see it.

I've always been into like creature sightings and I thought maybe it was the Michigan dog man because I mean like I said I was homeschooled so like when I got done with my school I'd get on my computer and watch YouTube videos and stuff and I was always into paranormal and you know creature sightings and stuff and I've actually heard of the dog man before but I didn't think that it was going to be something I would encounter later in my life so I just wasn't thinking that was the dog man and I definitely wasn't thinking Sasquatch. because, yeah, I just, I didn't think that Sasquatch, you know, lived up in Michigan. But, yeah, my dad was just like, what was that?

And we were, I was like, I have no idea. And we didn't tell anyone in the family. I literally just told my wife about it today. And I know from talking to you off the air, after you saw this creature, you started really researching it. Was this the only time you had seen it? No, actually. This happened in 2022. I was at my buddy's house, and where my buddy lives, it's about three miles away from where my parents live, three, four miles away from where my parents live.

If you were to cut directly across the field, of course. But it was about you would have to go down the main road for about five miles and then turn left and go down back road for another four. five miles or so. But if you were to cut straight across the fields in the woods, it's about a three miles, a three miles stretch. And they own, I don't know how many acres, they own quite a bit of acreage, but they have like a wheat field or like a hay field that they use for their animals. And this is where in my email I said the dogs are going crazy because I'll buy that, I'll buy that wheat field. or that hayfield, they have a dog pen where they have corgis and boxers and, you know, Aussies out there. And at the time, the corgis had had a litter.

They were just going crazy. We were out by the campfire up by the house because they had a huge, like, 36-foot-round kind of like campfire site by their house. We were out there, and his parents were gone. We were, you know, we were out there. We were drinking. and we were, you know, having a good time talking. And five, ten minutes later, their parents had started pulling into the driveway.

And those dogs were still going desert. I mean, we thought maybe it was a deer or something and they, you know, they were wanting to, you know, get it. Because their cages weren't, they were built into the barn. So they kind of had like, think of like a horse stable, right? But then they were just cages instead of doors. So they could still see outside. So we thought they were just, you know, they saw a herd of deer or something, and they were going berserk over it. Because the corgi was actually trained to herd bulls because my buddy is a bullfighter.

So she was trained to herd bulls. So I thought maybe, we thought maybe, you know, it was instinct. But when his parents pulled into the driveway, you know, the headlights is shining across that field. when they shine it across that field, that same figure sprinted directly across it. And now at this point, it's heading towards where my parents' house would be. So it sprints from the road all the way towards where my parents' house would be, which would be southwest. Yeah, it would be southwest of there.

So it was sprinting southwest. And that was pretty much towards us. We were directly west of where that field is. And that thing was spreading southwest. And it ran into the woods. And then we just never saw it again. That was the end of it. And I know after this happened to you, like I said, you know, you were researching it,

trying to listen to other people who had run into this creature. But when you saw it, I mean, did you think it was the same one you and your father had seen? You know, I have a feeling. it probably was because, I mean, at the time, no, I didn't. But, you know, once I started listening to your podcast and listening to the Dogman ones, I kind of, I figured out a pattern. They tend to follow people around. And they kind of like torment them almost. Eye witnesses will report kind of a retaliatory streak that these things have, mainly when people shoot at them, they seem to become very focused on.

that one person, and there's a lot of creepy accounts. When you guys saw it running you and your buddy, how far away from you was it? At this time, it was probably 150 meters away. At any point, did it get up on two legs, or was it on all fours the whole time? No, it was on all fours. It gassed right out of there. It wanted to leave. But it's kind of scary because those dogs were going crazy for about a half hour before. We even saw it. So that thing was lurking in that field for a half hour, and I know it hurt us because we were

hollering, we were playing music. We were having a good time. And if it had ears of a canine, it definitely hurt us. Yeah, you know, it makes me wonder, your grandmother telling you about your grandfather and some of the vocalizations he was hearing, like the barking, makes me wonder if he was running into this thing and not Sasquatch.

You know, I don't really know because I seen it personally at my parents' property, which was also my previously my great-grandfather's property. It was the same property. But what happened with my grandfather was very uncharacteristic of the dog man. I mean, the dog man likes to make sure you see it because it likes torture people. It definitely likes torture people. And so I don't really know. I don't know if this was Sasquatch or if it was Dogman with my grandpa, but I know what I saw was dogman. Yeah, it's so bizarre, man.

I mean, the way people describe this thing, set aside at getting up on two legs, canines can't get up on two legs, but there's many reports of this saying doing that. And then the speed, you know, I just wonder what this thing is that people are actually seeing. what's your take? What do you think it is? So I was actually think about that today because, you know, typically you ask Sasquatch, but I was thinking about this today because I was going to make a suggestion to ask if I could, you know, share my thoughts on this. So I'm religious. I'm a Christian, and I don't want to get into all the religious stuff because I know maybe some people in your audience isn't religious, so I don't want to, you know,

make them mad or whatever. But we all know the story of Adam and Eve, right? A serpent came and tempted Eve to eat the apple or the fruit. That creature, that serpent, was 100% natural, but it was also demonic. Satan used that to tempt Eve. So I'm almost thinking that what if the dog man is natural but is demonic at the same time. Not paranormal, but demonic. And also in the Bible, King Nebuchadnezzar God ended up cursing him for seven years. And he grew really long hair, black hair, really long

black hair. And he grew really long fingernails. And he lived out in the wild like a wild animal, like a dog. And I'm not saying that has a connection, but it proves that something like that could happen. Yeah, I tend to lean it being something demonic, but to your point, it's very physical. I mean, people are terrified when they run into this thing, they think they're going to die.

But there's a lot of weird things about it. I mean, I've had many people shoot this saying, and based on the size and the caliber of weapon they're using, it would easily take one of these things down, but it seems to be bulletproof, which is weird. In your email, you talked about the DNR officers. Tell me about that. Okay, yeah.

So the DNR came out in 2020, and they're actually out again now. And as in 2020 or 2019, whenever it was, as in we didn't see any deer. My dad, he's getting ready to hunt. No, it's almost opening season here in, you know, a couple weeks. He's getting ready to hunt, and he ain't seeing nothing. Not on his trail games, nothing.

He ain't seen no deer. And he ain't seeing turkeys, because turkeys like to wander up in the woods there. He ain't seeing nothing. So I'm thinking that thing, that dog man, is around again. But as far as the DNR, the DNR came out. And this was after several reports in the area of dogs going missing, animals getting a mauled again. So they thought it was, you know, a cougar because we have cougars in Michigan. But the weird thing is there hasn't been a cougar down in this part of Michigan in, well, since I could remember.

But when they came out in 2020 and they were like, hey, have you seen anything suspicious? Have you seen this or in this area? Do you have any dogs or cats because you want to keep them inside at night? Because there's a cougar loose. There was no report in the papers, nothing. No news report, nothing. So I don't know if it was the dog man or if it was this cougar. But like I said, animals were getting mulled and just left there.

A cougar would eat, you know, a dog. dog or a cat or a chicken. But from what I could see on Facebook, they were just mauled. And raccoons were found mauled and woodchucks. They were just found mauled. They weren't eaten. They were just killed. Yeah, that is weird.

You're right. I mean, a cure is going to eat it. It's not just going to kill it, mull it, and then move on. Did you ever talk to the DNR beyond that one conversation? No, they just kind of came out and was like, this is what's happening. Have you seen anything? And they kind of, we never really saw them again. They were patroning up and down the roads for a couple of days, but then kind of just all faded off. What's interesting about your encounter, tie, is, you know, when Sasquatch is around, people will report like tree knocks, whoops, grunts, sometimes this weird language. But, you know, With regard to the creature that you saw, you'd mention hearing barks, almost like a dog. Yeah.

It was like that bark, but it was a little bit deeper. It definitely wasn't something a dog would do. That dog would have to be pretty big and have a lot of air in its lungs to make a bark as loud as we heard and as deep as we heard. Yeah. Because you could hear that with power tools, power tools, earplugs, and through, through a wall, and it was clear as day. Yeah, I guess, you know, based on eyewitness descriptions, it would make the most sense that would be the vocalization you would hear.

I think most of the time people report hearing growling, you know, that sort of thing. So this last sighting, that was kind of the end of everything. You haven't seen the creature again? Yeah, because in 2023, I ended up moving. to Grand Rapids. And actually, I just moved back to about 15 minutes. Just Saturday, I just moved back about 15 minutes from where this all took place. Yeah, you have to keep your eyes and your ears open.

It makes you wonder if it was passing through or if it was kind of like living in that area. You know, during any of these encounters, did you ever go back where you had seen the creature and just kind of look around? if you could find anything. Yeah, yeah, we went back there. You definitely could tell that there was something that ripped through there because you know how like if a dog's on like really dry dirt and they're like, you know, playing there and getting down low and they're roughing up the dirt and stuff, like it looked like that.

Like you could tell this thing had a lot of force behind its run. And we didn't really see tracks because of how, you know, how it was running. Kind of just like pulled up the dirt. as it was running. But yeah, you could definitely tell that there was something there. Yeah, I don't know what this dog man thing is, man. I know people are seeing it for sure. I've interviewed many, many people.

They're from the Shadow's podcast, the judge. He's out there in Ohio. He ran into it when he was younger. And he describes it kind of like how you did. It got up on two legs and was kind of giving him the stink eye. You know, in the beginning, you talked about this fear that overcame you. What do you think caused the fear? Was it just seeing something so bizarre?

Well, I mean, I've seen black wolves. I've been up in Canada before. I've seen black wolves. I've seen grey wolves. I've seen coyotes. Like I said, I go coyote hunting in July. So I've been close to a lot of canines. It was just something about this thing.

And I think it was just, you know, standing up on two legs. That's not normal. That is definitely not normal. It just shocked me. I was in shock, dude. I couldn't move very much. And my dad was just like, what the hell? Because a canine will not just stand up on two legs like that.

And being seven feet tall, what canine do you know that's seven feet tall? Yeah, it's weird, man. The canine body isn't meant to get up on two legs. yet people see it over and over again. And I've always kind of thought I was demonic just because it seems to be bulletproof. It seems to be there's just nothing normal about it. And I know it's a scary encounter. I would have been scared too, by the way.

I wasn't giving me a crap by any means. I would have been just as scared as you were. And I really appreciate you taking the time to come on and share it. I really enjoyed chatting with you, Ty. No, I appreciate it. I finally get to tell someone who I know is it going to think I'm crazy. Yeah, I don't think you're crazy, ma'am. I've heard way too many of these accounts to where, again, I'm, I don't know what it is,

but I lean more towards the way you're leaning. And it helps to come forward because it kind of provides answers, you know. And I really appreciate it again, ma'am. Yeah, thank you. Next up on the show, I want to welcome Barbie. Barbie, thanks for coming on. Thank you. Yeah, and you had sent me an email about the Spotsville Monster, and I did a show on it.

I interviewed Bart and his mother, who were the main recipients of this thing's anger. But you kind of live in the area, and as I was reading through your email, you had, it sounds like Sasquatch stuff going on, but a lot of other weird things happening. And if you would, just kind of start from the very beginning. Tell me how all of this kind of started and kind of the weird things that you've seen. So I grew up in Baskett. It's right beside Spotsville in Henderson County. I never heard about Bigfoot growing up. So like the Spotsville monster story was like fairly new to me as an adult,

which is, you know, a lot of people think this is kind of fun. only because I grew up in that area, but I never really heard about it until I became an adult. When I was growing up, I never really, like, saw anything crypted or out of the ordinary when it came to, like, animals or sounds or anything like that. I mean, I grew up, like, my grandparents' property and farm was all alongside Sharner Road, which is right or on the border of basket. All my family lived on one side of the road. So I grew up just running around in the woods at night during the day. Never, ever did I ever experience anything abnormal until I was 13 years old. And when I was 13 years old, I had experienced seeing a floating orb through the trees.

I was on the back deck of my childhood home. and I was just out it was like at night time and I was outside sitting on the deck just listening to music and this orb there's a tree line behind our house and I say it's probably this tree line is probably about maybe 60 yards from the house and this orb it had it was yellow and it was the circumference of it I was say, I'm probably about like three to four feet wide. And it was just slowly moving through the trees. And after just stand, I like froze because I was like scared to death because I was like, what is this saying? And I was afraid like, if it's moving, is it going to see me? And so I just froze and watched it for about until it got to the end of the tree line.

And I ran inside real quick. And I didn't tell my dad until the next morning. because I was so scared. And then he made fun of me and didn't believe me and everything like that. But later on, my grandma got sick and she had got Alzheimer's and she needs someone to move in and take care of her. So my grandma only lived maybe quarter of a mile down the road, you know, not far at all. So I moved my family in, my husband and myself and my three kids, and we took care of my grandma. And it's about six months after we moved in to her house, my husband and I were on the back porch one night.

And the kids were asleep. My grandma was asleep. And we usually had lights all on the back of the house that lit up the whole backyard. and everything. And we had those turned off because we didn't want to wake up the kids. My grandma, we didn't want the lights coming through the windows and waking them up. We're sitting there talking in the dark on the back porch. And I hear, well, my husband heard it first.

He goes, what is that noise? And I stopped talking and I listened. It was a sound I never heard before. At first I was like wanting to say, oh, it's just, it's just some jet. you know, some ducks because behind my grandma's house, there is my uncle that lived next door. He used to have cows and horses out back at that time. That's what he had. And there was also the people next to the farm also had horses and goats and stuff. And there was a pond back there in the back pasture.

And I was like, oh, maybe it's just a duck. You know, like maybe something that's trying to get a duck, you know, like trying to catch it or something, like a coyote or something. And then we sat there and listened for a little bit longer. And I was like, but that doesn't, that sounds like someone talking. But it doesn't sound like English or anything like that. It was really weird. And then we sat there and listened to it for a while.

And also, I forgot to ask. that before this you know before we heard the sound we had heard cowdies because there was cowdies really bad infestation around my grandmas at the time we had tons of them around the counties were going off and you know and my dog was barking and everything went silent and we you know I really wasn't noticing it too much until my husband had pointed it out you said did you notice that everything you know what's silent before we heard that noise and I was like yeah you're right and I didn't so like later we listened we we were listened to it and a

little bit time went by and then I heard kind of like a whooping sound and it was at a different part of the field it was like across from the pasture that we had originally heard the first sound at with the chattering and I had never heard anything like this whatsoever growing up out there over the years I kind of like always wondered what that sound we had heard. And it wasn't until I started getting and going down the rabbit hole, like, you know, with the whole Bigfoot other people's stories. And I came across David Pilates, his documentaries. And then I wasn't sure, but I swore that I've heard the same sounds on your

podcasts that Ron Warhead had recorded. And I think he had it was, I think it was on a documentary that David Pilates had. Is that correct? Oh, yeah. You're talking about the Sierra sounds. Yes. Well, that's the chatter that in the whooping that I heard. I heard the chattering from that and then the whipping I heard on your podcast.

And that's what I, that's what is the closest sound that came to that what I heard at my grandmas at one night with my husband. It's weird when you hear it on a recording, but it's even more weird when you hear it in person. How far away from you was this going on? And what did you guys end up thinking it was? I mean, did you end up thinking it was people? So it was probably maybe, maybe 100 yards, maybe 80 to 100 yards away from us.

At first, I thought it was an animal until I listened a little bit longer. and it almost sounded like a language, but not English. It was really weird. I never heard anything like that before until later on when I was starting to like getting curious and looking up, you know, sounds and and listening to people's encounters and everything like that that discovered that, that was the closest thing that it came to was a samurai chatter. And other weird stuff happened around Grandma's house about that time.

us a little bit after that. So not too long after that, my husband and I were, we were outside at night and we were talking. And this time we had the light, the back lights on. And we saw this like white, misty, foggy. And I don't even know how this second as describe it. It was in the backyard. And it almost took a shape.

of maybe a tall person, like a figure. And then it flew up in the air and kind of floated above us and then started dissipating and then flew over the house. And it was really freaky. Like I've never experienced anything like that in my grandma's house before, you know, taking care of us moving in and taking care of her like that. it was really creepy. It wasn't a cold night. It wasn't a foggy night. It was a regular summer night.

I don't, like there would be no reason why this would have just popped up in the yard and flew over us like that, you know? Yeah, I had a gentleman on, I can't remember if it was a member show or not, but they had Sasquatch on the property and also,

kind of sounded like ghost, paranormal stuff going on as well. And he described that. You know, as kids, they were playing in a barn and this fog, this weird mist showed up. It kind of took the form of a man.

But he said it just kind of dissipated. But what you saw, it actually went up in the air. Yeah, like it would above us. Like we were sitting on the back porch, on the steps to the back porch. And my grandma had a car port before you go to the backyard, and it kind of like flew up over us and hovered for a bit,

and then started dissipating and went over the house. It was like really strange and really freaky. And the entire time that we lived there, well, I took care of my grandma, we would see strange things in our house and outside our house, like shadow figures, like black shadow figures. My kids, they did not feel comfortable living there at all. They were really scared.

There was times to have to look up in the middle of night and seeing a very tall, black, shadowy figure standing beside my bed. And my husband's like 6.30. And this was like bigger than my husband. It was like tall almost to the ceiling. And I've tried like, because I sleep with like the TV on. And I try to recreating, like sitting in the hallway and trying to recreate the shadow or like, you know, like thinking maybe my kid had gotten up and it was casting a shadow.

Nothing. No matter what I did, I couldn't recreate what I saw. It was really creepy. And I grew up playing in my grandma's house like all the time. when I was little and I never, never experienced something paranormal like that. Like this is, I think it's all connected to what we had heard outside and what we saw. Like I think there was a whole connection. And then see, across from my grandma's farm, across the street is the Green River State Forest.

And behind that is the Green River Wildlife Refuge. And it goes all the way down to the Ohio Green River and that's swamp land. And when the Green River State Forest was first started, well, before it was started, it was nothing but cornfields. an old man didn't have a wheel that owned the property. He passed away and the state took over it. That was about the time that I had viewed that orb. And that was like in 93, when he passed 93, 94, when he passed away, 1993, 94.

And that's about the time I saw that orb. And they started working that property up. And I think in 98, 1998 is when they finally opened it up as the Green River State Forest. And ever since then, I think there's some connection between what we experienced at my grandmaws when we moved in to take care of her with that state forest. Because there was one evening, and this was after we had heard the sounds, after we saw the white, foggy mist. shape figure. We were coming home one night and my mom had the kids and my grandma. And my husband and I had a date night and we had we were driving home to grandma's house for the evening. And we saw a like, I swear to you, it looked like a full grown black

panther ran across the road from the Green River State Forest. And it was like, like, It ran across the road and went into my uncle's front yard and then behind his house. And I was like, I told him, I was like, did you see that? He goes, yes. I was like, I thought we didn't have such a thing in Kentucky. And I was like freaking out. And I called my cousin because my cousin is a, well, he's been promoted now. But I can't tell you it right.

Because if someone's listening to this, they'll know who I'm talking about. we'll just say he worked for Kentucky fish and wildlife resource. I called him up and I'm like, you wouldn't believe what I just saw. And I need you to confirm to me whether or not we actually have them in the state. And he said, no, we do not have anything like that in the state of Kentucky. And then I called my uncle, who is a retired Kentucky fish and wildlife, a resource officer. he I told him you know you know what you know I saw this and he goes well we don't we're not supposed to have him he said but I've I've seen them like like I feel like they pass through and I'm like well we mean you've seen them

why why is why has no one's talking about this he said well technically no one's supposed to know or not supposed to talk about it or supposed to tell people about it because we were told that it would cause mass hysteria. And I'm like, that doesn't sound, it doesn't sound right at all. My cousin, he squares up and down that there's no such thing in Kentucky. So I just feel like all of that is connected somehow. It's really weird because it's the area is not like what I had grown up. around. It's totally different now. And it's really weird. And I mean, it just even feels like whenever we had these encounters, I never, I'm a very like spiritual person as I believe in God. And I know there's angels and demons out there and stuff. And when I, when I had these experiences, I always felt like it was bad. Like I feel like it was like not good at all. Like, be down in my. my soul. I didn't feel, it felt awful. It was just a really weird, really weird experience.

And when I was an adult and I was like trying to look up information more about trying to figure out exactly what I heard and what I was seeing and experiencing. I mean, even the paranormal stuff was kind of throwing me off. And that's when I discovered, you know, the sound. the same sounds that I heard on your podcast and from Ron Moorhead. And I really think that that's, I didn't really think it was a Bigfoot or Sasquatch or whatever you want to call it. I was curious, you know, your grandma passes away. And then all of a sudden you're seeing all of this weird paranormal stuff on the property.

I mean, growing up, I mean, you did see the lights, which is weird. They're weird in their own way. But growing up, I mean, did you see any of these shadowy figures or any of this more ghostly type encounters? So I never, never the shadow figures. Next door to my grandma's house is the original house of the farm. So like my great-grandfather was the original owner of the farm. So like the house was like over 100 years old. And my grandparents built a new one right beside it, moved in there, and then my uncle and aunt moved in there.

And I was really close to my cousin that lived there. And when I was little, there was a time where I had to stay the night that I slept over. And they had this big, giant window in their front living room. and the window is like six feet tall and maybe four or five feet wide. It's pretty big. And they had that sheer curtain where you can still see through it. It's white. You can still see through the curtain.

And when I woke up and I had to go to the bathroom and the couch is like across from this window. And I felt like something was looking at me. And so I pulled the curtain back. And I saw they had like down their driveway, I thought I saw a Native American. And some guy, it almost looked like a cowboy because he had a hat, a cowboy hat and boots on. And it was really weird. And I was, I was awake. I wasn't sleepy.

I had, I was just gone to the bathroom. And I was going to go back to bed. and that's when I had that weird feeling and I looked out there and I saw this. And I thought it was really weird and it freaked me out. And I didn't say a word to anyone until I was older. And I talked to my cousin that was staying the night with that night. And I said, hey, I didn't tell you something. You remember there was one night I had stayed a night at your house and it was when your couch and your living room was across front.

from that window because her mom used to like switch up the living room's furniture like all the time. And I said it was the time when your couch was across from the big window in your living room and had stayed in the night and I slept on the couch. You remember that? And she's like, yeah. I said, okay. So I got up in the middle of the night and I go to the bathroom and I felt someone looking at me through your window. And I went to the look and she goes, you saw the Indian, didn't you? And I was like, no. she had seen the same thing that I have. She goes, yeah, I've seen it before. She goes, I think it's a ghost, you know. She goes, but I've only seen it like one time.

And I was like, yeah, that's what I saw. I saw another, I saw the cowboy looking figure also. Um, so that's like the only other, that's the only other like paranormal thing as a kid. that I experienced, you know, my grandma's house. Yeah, I think that, I mean, no offense to anyone in Kentucky, but I think the whole area is kind of weird. And I thought that after I interviewed the Nunleys and the mother, my previous co-host asked me to remove all of the paranormal stuff out of the show.

And I kind of wish I wouldn't have. But she talked about a lot of weird things that were going on there. And I'm convinced that what they were running into, the actual Spotsville monster is actually a dog man. I don't think it's a Sasquatch. As she described, I mean, they got up on the roof and six, seven guys were shooting at this saying, and it seemed to be bulletproof. The whole area is kind of weird. My husband, after we heard that, my husband was working for a construction, temporarily working for a construction company that was in Reed, which is right across the Grand River from Spotsville.

and there was a guy that he worked with, and he was asking him about, you know, responsible monster because he was trying to get more information about the sounds we heard. And he goes, oh, yeah, because this guy lived in spousal. He goes, we hear them hollering all the time out there. And I'm like, no one's talking about it. Why aren't you not talking about it?

And so apparently there are some people in spossal that still hear it and just like, oh, that's that spasful monster again. Yeah, they seem to be in the area. I get reports from that area, both Dogman and Sasquatch and a lot of weird paranormal stuff in that area. I don't know if there's like Indian burial grounds out there or I don't know how that's relevant. But anyway, you know, I ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is? And you kind of answered it there a moment ago.

You said it's all connected. But what's your take? What do you think that they are? I totally, honestly, I totally agree with Ron Moorhead. I think it's quantum bigfoot. Because I'm always been like a really open-minded person. And I don't, I think that I kind of feel like some people are on a different vibration and that they encounter stuff more than others.

And I kind of feel like maybe it has to do the whole quantum thing. I truly, you know, I truly believe that. What makes you feel that way, Barbie? Not that I disagree with you. Because the series of events that happened from that first experience with the sounds. Like, because, I mean, other than me just seeing that, you know, seeing the ghost when I was a kid next door at my aunts and uncle's house, never have I experienced this at my grandmas before this happened. I mean, I think that the sounds that we heard and the misty fog figure that we saw

and the Black Panther, I think it's all connected. Yeah, I understand the way you feel. And, you know, sometimes I'll talk to people. They'll have these creatures on their parents. property and then they'll also start describing weird paranormal stuff that is going on at the same time and it you know in those moments it can definitely feel like it's connected like I said I don't know if it's connected but I get why people feel that way especially when you have multiple things going on I really enjoyed chatting with you Barbie thank you so much for coming on thank you and I

really do appreciate you having a platform where someone can open up and tell their story It really does help. Thanks again, Barbie. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows.

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